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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Political beat Down with Ben Macellas and

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Michael Cohen. We have a lot to discuss with you today.

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The first thing we got to discuss is our co

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host Michael Cohen making a lot of news. On Wednesday,

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February eighth, our co host Michael Cohen met with the

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Manhattan District Attorney's Office for the fifteenth time in connection

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with their criminal investigation into Donald Trump. A criminal grand

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jury is currently impaneled in Manhattan as well. Let's see

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what Michael Cohen will be able to tell us. If anything,

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I am going to try my darnedest to get some

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information out of him. President Biden gave what I thought

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was one of the most incredible State of the Unions

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in the history of our country, one of the best speeches, frankly,

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I've ever heard. And I want to contrast that and

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get your take, Cohen, between Biden's speech and the utter

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buffoonery of the MAGA Republicans there shouting.

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Speaker 2: Being kind when you call them buffoons, an absolute jokes,

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disrespectful as far as as far as everybody's analysis, it

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is beyond disrespectful. You know this was only done once before.

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But we'll get into it. You know, let me let

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you finish your little monologue.

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Speaker 1: He speaking of the complete and utter buffoonery that is MAGA. Yesterday,

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the Magaled House Oversight Committee held a hearing with former

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Twitter executives, which at the end of the day, all

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it proved was that it was Donald Trump who consistently

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used the government to try to get Twitter to take

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down posts, including posts that hurt his feelings, including that

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Chrissy Teagan post. We will discuss these committee hearings are

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really exposing the goop. And when we talk about these

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committee hearings, there's one taking place right now. It's the

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so called MAGA Republican Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the

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Justice Department. And I'm sure it's going to suffer the

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same fate as all these other ill fated committee hearings

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that these Magga Republicans are doing. It's just going to

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show that it's Donald Trump and Bill Barr and others

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who weaponized the Department of Justice and the FBI and

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used it to attack people like our co host Michael Cohen.

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And finally, I want to touch on Special Counsel Jack

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Smith and how Smith's team of lawyers and a group

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of FBI agents recently questioned the former acting Homeland Security

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Secretary Chad Wolfe, which is a big development in the

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investigation there. Michael Cohen, Welcome to the Political beat Down again.

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I love co hosting this with you, and I know

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you've been thinking about you know, the Political Beatdown's been

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making waves. It was featured and a lot of news networks.

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The community of Political Beatdown watchers has grown up, and

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I know you've been thinking about the community aspect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So one of the things that I constantly refer

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to all of you as, which is our Political Beatdown family,

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and you are, but I don't think it adequately describes

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who we are as a group and what we're trying

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to accomplish. And so on my Twitter account, I went

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ahead and I put out helped me to find the

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name because some of you are really much brighter than

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I am, especially much more creative than I am at

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doing this. And I offered a signed copy of my

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book Revenge to the person who I I like their ideas.

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And so there's a guy by the name of Jeff

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and he's at beast Quake and Jeff came up with

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the name, and I hope you all like it. It's going

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to be called the Beatdown Brigade. I love the name.

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I think that's exactly what we are. We are a brigade.

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We are a group of people working together to accomplish something.

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We are trying to accomplish the preservation of democracy, holding

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those accountable accountable, ensuring that the Department of Justice remains

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unscathed despite the fact of everything that's going on. And yes,

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we will talk about the Weaponization Subcommittee that's currently right

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now meeting in Washington, d C. There's so much to

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talk about. I hope everybody likes it. I also think

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it's great because we can come up with some interesting

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logos for the Beatdown Brigade. But that's who we are.

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We are not just a family, but we're a brigade

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where they are working together to accomplish something. So I

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thought the name was absolutely perfect. Again, I hope everybody

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enjoys it.

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Speaker 1: And when we're talking about what the Beatdown Brigade does,

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it's beating down the lies, right, it's beating down the disinformation,

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the fascism. It's funny. There was one person who commented,

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they said, Cohen and Macellus are so ahead of the news.

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That's why the last stream that we did glitched for

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a moment and we had to start a newstream. They're

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so ahead of the news that the news had to

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catch up with them. And I think one of the

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best examples of that is the breaking news that we

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reported here first on our Tuesday edition of The Political Beatdown,

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where you announced here exclusively that you would be speaking

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with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office for the fifteenth time

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in connection with their criminal investigation. Now, I know there

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is very little that you are allowed to discuss, because

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that's just the reality of ongoing criminal investigations. But is

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there any additional flavor that you can give us now

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that that meeting took place, Whether it's your confidence about

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the people in the room, the amount of people in

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the room, perhaps the differences in terms and maybe without

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getting into specifics, tone and feeling from the last time

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you spoke the fourteenth time, do you think that there's

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going to be more of these? What if anything can

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you share with us?

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Speaker 2: Michael Cohen, so I can share that I am going

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to be returning again for the sixteenth time next week,

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I don't want to give out any of the specifics

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in terms of the day and the time. But at

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this point in time, I am expected to come back.

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You know, there's a lot of comments flying around media

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right now about Alvin Bragg, and a lot of it

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has to do with Mare Pomerant's new book that's coming

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out People Versus Donald Trump. And while I agree with

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Mark Pomerantz, I stated so as I was entering the

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building at eighty eighty Center Street. One of the things,

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or sixty Center Street, one of the things that I

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had said is I do believe that Donald Trump committed

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a crime. And I believe that Mark Pomerance was correct

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over a year ago, around the time of his and

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carried done their resignation from the District Attorney's office, that

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there could have been an indictment and a prosecution of

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Donald Trump. Now, one of the things I also agree

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with Mark Pomerantz's there is no case that is a

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slam dunk. And while some seem more obvious than others,

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no case is a one hundred percent slam dunk. And

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so the notion that a prosecutor will only take on

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case is especially one of high profile individuals in this case,

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the former attorney, I'm sorry, the former president to the

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United States with a witness who is the former personal

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attorney to that individual. I could understand their trepidation. I

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could understand them wanting to take it slow. While I

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still think that that case could have been brought. They're

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not supposed to be looking at whether or not a

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conviction is eminent or guaranteed, because once again, no case

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is one hundred percent, and they could have brought it,

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and I believe personally that a conviction would have been attained. Now,

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Alvin Bragg, to be fair to him, had just come

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into the game and it was seven weeks in when

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he decided that they were going to put the brakes

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on this thing and reevaluate the work product that was

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done and look more deeply at the case. Fine, you

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know everybody's using these transportations in air transportation analogies that

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they put the brakes on on the plane, it wasn't

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ready for take off, et cetera, et cetera. So I'm

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going to stay in that genre and say to you

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that the plane is on the tarmac and at the

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same time that that plane is ready for departure. I

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will also turn around and say that like planes that

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are delayed or even ones that are canceled. Ultimately you

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get back onto another plane and you ultimately arrive at

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a destination. And I believe that the destination is coming.

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they are extremely extremely prepared. They are incredibly knowledgeable, and

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they are actively reviewing all of the information and there's

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a lot of information here for them to review in

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order to make their assessment. But I do believe personally

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that we will arrive at the destination. If you understand

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the metaphor.

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Speaker 1: One may say they're ready to go that you feel

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ready to go?

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Speaker 2: Can I get you peanuts, popcorns, soda pop?

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Speaker 1: And you are And you've said this before, but to

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the new beat Down Brigaders watching this, you felt very

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confident though in Pomerants and Done in how they were

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pursuing it. That's why you were to say apoplectic when

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they left would be an understatement. But you now, with

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this new team that you've met with, you have the

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same level of confidence today that you did with the

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Pomerants and Done team. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: Semi? So, remember, prior to meeting with Bragg's team, I

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had met thirteen times with the previous team three times

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while I was at Otisville, ten times after I was released,

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and now two times with this new team. Let me

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say that I was exceptionally comfortable and confident in Mark

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Pomerants and Carrie Dunn. Their professionalism was extraordinary, and so

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is the rest of their team. In the two visits

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that I've had now with the Alvin Bragg run team,

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let me also say that I feel and I am

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getting to the same place. But I feel very confident.

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They are exceptionally exceptionally talented prosecutors. They are incredibly adept

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at litigation and certainly the art of trial, and more importantly,

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they are extremely knowledgeable about all of the facts circumstances

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surrounding the issues they've also which impressed me a lot.

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almost up to speed with the vast amount of information

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that they took over from the previous investigation. But I

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do feel extremely comfortable with them, and I am almost

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Mark Pomerance and carried done two exceptional exceptional lawyers to

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exceptional prosecutors and two exceptional individuals.

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Speaker 1: I think that they have a grasp of knowledge on

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the vast amount of information is a very important point there,

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I think for those just tuning in, I thought you

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broke some very important news as well. And not only

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were you there for the fifteenth appearance, you will be

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going back for a sixteenth appearance. And certainly I'm not

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putting words in your mouth. I'm just giving my own

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personal observations as a lawyer who has dealt with these

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things before. Usually when the meetings start getting quicker and

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quicker and closer and closer, that's usually a sign that

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things are starting to move in a certain direction. Although

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you could extrapolate a lot of different things from data.

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that's the analysis that I would be giving there, and

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Speaker 2: Know, before we go, before we move on, you know,

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one of the comments that constantly pops up, not just

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here from our beatdown brigade, but from many people is

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I'm tired of waiting, all right. Well, while I understand

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your you know, anxiousness in terms of getting an indictment

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and a prosecution and hopefully a conviction, especially if you're

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the prosecutors, I understand how you feel, and trust me,

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nobody understands that better than I. But very much like

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when your plane is delayed or canceled, do you start

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to walk? Do you say, fuck it, I'm not going

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to where I intended to go. The answer to that

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ass down in the chair and you wait. Sometimes you

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know what else you have to do. You sleep in

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the airport, or you go home and you come back

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the next day. That's what's been happening. But ultimately, if

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your decision is you want to end up at the

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final destination, well you come back and then you sit

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and you wait again, and then you board the aircraft

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and you wait for the pilot you know, to taxi

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on to the runway, and then you take off an

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about this specific case. Me personally, While I wish that

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they would have done this a year ago, like you,

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I wish that they would have indicted pursuing to Mark

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Pomerance and carry Dunn's belief, they didn't, And so I

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could do one of two things. I could continue to

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criticize the current brag office, or I can continue to

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cooperate with them in hopes that they reach the destination

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that I believe is valid and justified. And I want

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to make it crystal clear to people, especially to the

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trolls that are out there. Let me be very clear.

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I do not want to see Donald Trump indicted, prosecuted, convicted, incarcerated,

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simply because I despise virtually everything that comes out of

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his mouth, that I fund mentally disagree with him on

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almost everything that he does and says. Okay, I want

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to see him indicted, prosecuted, convicted, and possibly incarcerated or

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placed on home confinement because he committed a crime. This

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is not a retribution thing. This is holding him accountable.

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that whether you're rich or you're poor, justice is equal

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to each and every one of us, and that he

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too must be held accountable for his dirty deeds. Because

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if we're going to continue the adage that no one

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is above the law, well, this is what needs to

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be done. So I'm willing to sit back and wait

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as I have, and I hope that you'll show the

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same patience and reserve that I am.

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Speaker 1: Well, that gives me comfort, and I think it should

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give the Beatdown Brigade, the Midas Mighty, the legal a

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efforts We're gonna have all these have all these names

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and all this great all these great names. But I

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think it gives them a good deal of comfort as

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well to hear that from you, Because if anyone should

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be pissed off using your metaphor that the plane didn't

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take off, it should be you, because not only in

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the past is the plane not taken off for you

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in the right direction, but you know, you've been taken

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in a plane to I could take this really far,

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you know, to to basically to Siberia, you know, I mean, you.

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Speaker 2: Know then I've been taken to hell that I know

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what hell looks like. I've been there. You know, people

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don't realize what fifty one days of solitary confinement can

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do to you. People don't realize what happens when you're

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not with your family simply because of another man's dirty deeds.

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And you know, all of this is ultimately coming out,

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whether it's the disgraceful behavior, the uneff illegal behavior of

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Jeffrey Berman, who is the former head of the Southern

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District of New York, the Southern District of New York

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prosecutorial team, most of whom are not even there anymore.

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They're all now at these you know, massive white shoe

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you know law firms like you know, making seven figures

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all in their bio. The very first paragraph successfully prosecuted

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biggest twenty first century case of US versus Cohen. Let

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me be very clear to my beatdown brigade, I was

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not prosecuted. I was not convicted. I pled to a

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one page information that was stuck into my face like

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a hostage video in forty eight hours. If you don't

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plead guilty with filing an eighty page indictment, that's going

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to include your wife and I dare anybody out there

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to say that you would not do the same to

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protect your loved ones. So it would have been much

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easier for me to keep my mouth shut. Chances are

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the orange crusted mandarin Mussolini would have giving me a pardon,

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but I don't want it. I never wanted it from him,

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and I still wouldn't take it from him. I will

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continue to ensure that our democracy continues forever and ever

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and ever and that we will not together as the Brigade,

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we will not allow people like Donald Trump and Donald

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Trump two point zero to hijack our democracy and to

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take advantage and to try to impede upon our constitutional rights.

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I will do everything in my power to ensure that

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he is held to the same standard of the law

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to justice that you and I are.

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Speaker 1: That's why people, including myself, just so admire your courage,

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because you've been to helen back, to support our democracy,

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to stand up for people, to talk about what you

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did in the past, but to speak the truth to

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power to make sure that our democracy survives. And it's

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something that you know sometimes when you and I talk,

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you know, I am in awe of what you've what

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you've been able to do against all odds, And I

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think it's something that lots of people recognize, a lot

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of a lot more people need to recognize. And the

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Manhattan District Attorney's prosecution, what the New York Attorney General

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is doing, what Letitia James is doing, what Fawnie willis

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is evening like like your backbone, your ability to stand

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up to trump Ism and to Maga extremism is really

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an inspiration and a roadmap not just for the prosecutions

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in New York, but for district attorneys across the country

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to follow. And I think it's a roadmap for democracy.

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And speaking about roadmaps for.

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Speaker 2: You know, let me just say, if I can just

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say one more thing, Ben, you know, I want to

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be clear, though I actually did commit a crime. I

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committed campaign finance violation. Now I did so at the

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direction of and for the bench of Donald J. Trump.

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I want people to understand I knew that they were

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coming after me at a bare minimum of just the

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campaign finance violation, but the additional charges that were brought

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against me. If you read Revenge, you'll understand there's no

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tax evasion. Though I had to plead guilty to it,

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I could not under any circumstances that I see in

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the comments. So many of our brigaders would have done

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the same as I. You protect your loved ones. That's

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my job on this planet. Everything else is secondary to

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my wife, my daughter, and my son. And as you

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may recall, I had said it to George Stephanopoulos, my

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first loyalty belongs to my wife, my daughter, my son,

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and my country. And I will not allow history to

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remember me as the villain of Donald Trump's story. And

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that's why I fight every single day too. You know,

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not easy fighting truth to power, especially, I mean it's

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not easy fighting Donald Trump when he was just Donald Trump.

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Now try to figure fighting Donald Trump when he's the

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President of the United States with a willing and complicit,

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bloviated piece of shit like Bill Barr, who has not

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yet been you know, called in, who has not been

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held accountable.

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Speaker 1: Cohen froze for one second, but I think it was

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because the stream of him talking about the bloviating buffoon

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idiot that is Bill Barr that would probably make my

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stream crash as well. When Cohen returns, though, what I

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really want to talk to him about.

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Speaker 2: Wow, all right, you know, I think what's happening is

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we had a couple of these maga s hats who

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are out there and they're interfering somehow with the system.

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Speaker 1: No, we got. I was able to fill in the

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words when you were describing Bill Barr, and I think

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I nailed it to a t. But I want to

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move on though and talk about the state of view.

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were talking about it earlier in the morning, and Biden's

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State of the Union I thought was great speech. I

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thought he hit on some real critical uh points, I

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mean focus, focused on domestic policy, focused on foreign policy,

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uh focusing on our democracy in general, you know, and

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then he hit these important points too though, just that.

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I don't know about you, Cohen, but I got all

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these calls from people who aren't even political or text

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messages and saying like, Ben, how is anybody against that?

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to the news all that much. But everything he's saying

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says so much sense. And I'm like, yeah, you should

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be watching the Midas Touch network. You should be listening

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to Maya Kolpa. You should be listening to Political Beatdown.

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You should be you should be listening and making sure

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you're they are listening.

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Speaker 2: They are listening to Political Beatdown right now. My brigaders,

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we are number fourteen on all Apple News podcasts. It

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is an incredible, incredible number. I mean, don't forget this

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is a network that's private and a lot of it

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is funded by many of you. Are we are up

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there head to head against the major networks, against the

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major newspapers against major corporations, and we are number fourteen

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out of God knows there you go out of God

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thanks to you and people's under your decision that you

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want to hear it raw, unfiltered. You want to know

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the truth, not these nine, ten, twelve minutes soundbites that

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you're getting, not the misinformation, disinformation, malinformation that's put out

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there by so many networks so that they can base

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tried to brainwash you to one side. I mean, I

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don't know, we can tell. And let's just use that

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as the lead in for the State of the Union.

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separate television you watch, for example, Fox, you would think

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that you're talking about two different states of the Union addresses.

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It is absolutely remarkable that there is no semblance between

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the two. Nobody turns around and says, hey, Joe Biden

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is right. He added more jobs to this economy in

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two years than most presidents doing four specifically Donald Trump

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and his administration. In fact, Donald Trump added twenty five

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percent of hour of our deficit in four years, more

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than any president. In fact, it's more than most presidents

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in over two hundred years combined. So at the end

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of the day, if you watch Fox, you're not going

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to hear anybody talk about how great Joe Biden has

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done in terms of job creation, in terms of reducing

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gas prices, in terms of his desire to hold the

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uber rich. And I'm not talking guys with the millions.

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I'm talking guys with the bees, with the billions, where

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they pay absolutely no tax at all. The corporation's pay

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no tax. Well, he has come up with a plan

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that will tax them. It's a minimum corporate tax. I

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think it's like fifteen percent. That will help to balance

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the budget. We will also help to clear our deficit.

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If not, what are we doing. We're leaving our children,

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grandchildren and god willing great grandchildren and so on with

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a deficit that they cannot sustain, and that will be

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the ultimate destruction of this country. When we need to

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go to foreign countries like China, who holds more debt

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than anybody else of our paper, and then you have

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Republicans attempting to hijack the debt ceiling. We are all backwards.

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We are upset down, inside out and backwards. And that's

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why we really need strong leadership in Washington, which is

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why is our brigaders come twenty twenty four, rest assured

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we together will make sure that only the right people

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end up winning.

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Speaker 1: I mean there were so many moments from this where

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there would be obvious applause lines for every American right.

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I mean there was one moment where McCarthy and the

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Magari Republicans refused to applaud for the wealthy and big

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corporations paying their fair share of taxes. I mean, that's

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all Biden said. Biden's like, look, I'm a capitalist. I

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think that people should make money. It can make a

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lot of money. I just think that the billionaire should

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pay the same taxes as the firefighter. All the Democrats clapped,

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and McCarthy just sat there and did nothing. And you

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almost watch McCarthy while he's sitting there, and you see

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how uncomfortable he looks because he stands for nothing and

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he falls for everything because there is no backbone here.

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Just play this clip right.

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Speaker 2: Here, I can tell you plan. I'm going to show.

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Speaker 3: He's going to cut the depths of by another two

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trillion dollars, and I won't cut a single bit of

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Medicare or self security. In fact, we're going to extend

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the Medicacare Trust Fund at least two decades. Because that's

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going to be the next argument, how do we make

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keep it solvent? Right, Well, we'll not raise tax anyone

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making under four under gram, but we'll pay for it

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the way we talked about, by making sure that the

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wealthy and big corporations pay their fair share. Look, look,

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look here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: You don't clap when you say that you got to

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have big corporations pay their fair share. That seems to

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be a universal thing. And that theme continued, you know throughout.

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I mean when Biden talked about historic job creation, jobs, jobs, jobs,

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basically the same thing. McCarthy salty. Do we have this

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clip right here of Kevin McCarthy refusing to applaud after

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Biden was was, you know, talking about historic job creation.

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We'll pull that up in a moment. And then what

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we got to also talk about Cohen is Santos, who

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was right there the whole time and the interactions though

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that were taking place between Romney and Santos. And you

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know when Romney saw Santos there, he was like, get out,

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what are you doing there? And it just to me.

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Let's pull up this other clip though, of Biden talking

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about jobs, job, jobs, play the clip salty.

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Speaker 3: The story of America is the story of progress and resilience,

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of always moving forward, of never ever giving up. It's

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a story unique among all nations. Look how uncomfortable that

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has emerged from every christ we've ever entered, stronger than

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we got into it. Look, folks, that's what we're doing again.

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Two years ago, the economy is reeling. I stand here

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tonight after we've created, with a help of many people

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in this room, twelve million new jobs, more jobs created

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in two years than any presents created in four years

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because of you, all present American people.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago, in two years ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about you, Bagel Ben,

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but he to me looks like he's got gifts and

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he's really trying to drop an SPD because that face

478
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looks like he's in pain, and he's in pain over

479
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what he's in pain, because America is trying to you know,

480
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be the best that we can be. That he's creating

481
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jobs that he wants to ensure that middle America and

482
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,039
lower middle class individuals aren't you know, paying for the

483
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,079
uber uber rich so that we can help to one

484
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day get rid of the deficit that is strangling our country.

485
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And by the way, one of our commenters, our brigaders,

486
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:20,640
is absolutely right, I did make a mistake. China is

487
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not our biggest holder of debt any longer. It's actually

488
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,599
now Japan, So I stand corrected. You are right about

489
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that at one point oh eight trillion dollars, slightly more,

490
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,200
you know, than China. But nevertheless, China is a massive,

491
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:39,640
massive holder of paper in the United States, and we

492
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,880
have real problems with China, you know, and it's it

493
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,799
is a real problem. So the fact that McCarthy could

494
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not get up and could not applaud the fact that

495
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Joe Biden had made this accomplishment not a democratic accomplishment,

496
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920
not a Joe Biden accomplishment. Listen to the words that

497
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:03,440
Joe Biden said. He's an inclusionary individual. He said, thanks

498
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,799
to all of us, thanks to the American people, thanks

499
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:10,519
to the bipartisan cooperation many of you that are sitting

500
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here today. That's a leader, not a guy that wants

501
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,720
to turn and said, well, if you didn't vote for me,

502
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,680
you know, fuck you, And I'm going to ensure that

503
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:20,799
I'm going to destroy you and everything else. And I'm

504
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,319
only going to cater to the class that wants to

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00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:26,799
back my campaign. That's not a leader. That's a grifter.

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00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with you. And how speaking about grifters,

507
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,559
You've got Santos on the floor of the House chamber

508
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as you know, as all the senators are walking in,

509
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like Santos positioned himself with this orange tie to make

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his presence known. And there was the moment when Romney

511
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was walking past them, and Romney's like, well, what you

512
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,400
should be ashamed of yourself. You should be embarrassed. Get

513
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,480
over there. We got this clip. I want to show

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it to you. Let's let's pull it up. Sealfie Yah

515
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:10,680
those I'm listening. You have Romney approaching Pantos right now,

516
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,200
basically yelling and say what are you doing in Santos?

517
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:34,519
There's something back to Romney. Yeah, and Cohen, before getting

518
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,400
your reaction, I want to show you though, what Romney

519
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,880
said after uh the state of the Union to the press,

520
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,799
let's play this clip.

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00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:49,079
Speaker 4: You just think you don't belong there with Why why

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00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:52,200
I didn't expect that he'd be standing there trying to

523
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,480
shake hands with every senator in the president United States.

524
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,640
That's given, given the fact that he's under ethics investigations,

525
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,000
should be sitting in the back of round and saying

526
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quiet instead of uh, parading in front of the president.

527
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And uh and and people coming into the room to be.

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00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,559
Speaker 2: Able to respond to you, he says.

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Speaker 4: He you know that he embellished his record. Look, embellishing

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is saying you've got an A when he had an

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A minus. Lying is saying you you graduated from a

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00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,880
college you didn't even attend. And and he shouldn't be

533
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,320
in Congress and uh, they're going to go through the

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00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,000
process and hopefully get him out. And uh, but he

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shouldn't be there. And if he had any shame at all,

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he wouldn't be there.

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Speaker 1: Why did you make a point to say that though?

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Speaker 2: And he went, I mean it was kind of out

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00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:33,280
of your way to he.

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Speaker 4: Was standing right there in the aisle shaking hands with everybody.

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Speaker 2: Did he respond to you, Uh, he may have. I

542
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,599
didn't hear anything that is not.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Colin, what do you think about that?

544
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: First of all, Mitt Romney happens to be a good man.

545
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,360
You know, I've known Mitt Romney for many years. He

546
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,599
really is a very decent man.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: He stands up for what right now. I don't agree

549
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,000
with everything that you know he agrees, but he happens

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00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:08,000
to be genuinely a decent man. He despises the likes

551
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,519
of a George Santos and I loved his analogy. You know,

552
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:15,280
a mistake right, embellishment is an A to an A

553
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,960
minus instead of an A. This guy got an F

554
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,239
and he's claiming he got an A plus. He's a

555
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,159
valedictorian of his class. He went to a college that

556
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,400
he never went to. He played volleyball, you know, against

557
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,159
other schools that aren't even in the same league. I mean,

558
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,119
it's truly amazing. He took money from a veteran instead

559
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,840
of giving it to save the veteran's dog. I mean,

560
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,760
this guy lied about everything that he's Jewish that you

561
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,000
know on top of that is family Holocaust survivors. I mean,

562
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:51,559
what is it that the man did not lie about.

563
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,000
I mean, it's from his name all the way down

564
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:57,320
to god knows what so good for Mitt Romney. It

565
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,920
almost reminds me of the scene in the movie Step Brothers,

566
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,039
right when he said, I just want to punch you

567
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,360
in the face, right, you know, and he goes, there's

568
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,119
just something right, He goes, anything I can do? He goes, no, no,

569
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:10,360
you know, I just want to punch you in the face.

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00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,480
Simtos his face just sort of It just makes you

571
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:21,400
want to like slap them or just do something because

572
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,400
there's something so wrong about everything about this guy. From

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00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:32,119
standing at the aisle to shake Biden's hand, Mitt Romney

574
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is one hundred percent correct when he said he should

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not be there, and in fact Mitt Romney was saying

576
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,760
to him, you should go sit somewhere else where nobody

577
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,360
can see you.

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Speaker 1: And I want to make two points there though. One though,

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is about the media, you know, and when the media

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00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:52,519
asked Romney, why did you make a point to say

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00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,360
that to them or say that to him? And Romney

582
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,320
goes because he was standing right there. I think that

583
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,960
kind of sums up the media though, right, because there

584
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,880
are so many things, there are so many lies, there's

585
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,639
so much disinformation, there's so much disturbing things that Maga

586
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:16,199
Republicans that are just right there in front of the

587
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,000
media's eyes and they do nothing about it. In fact,

588
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:24,840
they help people like George Santos, and they help people

589
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,519
like Kevin McCarthy, They help people like Ron DeSantis, they

590
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:32,440
help people like Donald Trump, rather than when it's staring

591
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,960
them in the eyes, just calling them out and saying,

592
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,039
here is the issue. You need to sit over there,

593
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,320
Call out these traders, call them to their face, call

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,440
them out who they are. That is your job.

595
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: Media.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that the media goes, well, why'd you

597
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,800
confront him? And Ron is like, cause he's standing right there.

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,559
Speaker 2: That's why. Look, at some point in time, Ben, you know,

599
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:02,039
everybody has to be held to countle and the fact

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that George Santos is not only not being held accountable

601
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:11,719
by Republicans, by members of Congress, he's actually sticking it

602
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,920
in everyone's face, walking around, loving the attention of the

603
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,840
cameras on top of him, loving watching Manu Raju chasing

604
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,559
him around the capital, you know, asking him, you know,

605
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,880
do you have no shame? Sir? Do you have no shame?

606
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,760
And the answer is why are you asking a rhetorical question? Manu? Right,

607
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,760
of course he has no shame the guy is a

608
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,880
frickin' liar to the nth degree. He doesn't care that

609
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,199
he lied. He doesn't care that based on the lies,

610
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,760
he managed to get elected. And shame on the Democrats

611
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,760
for not doing the most minutia, just the most minute

612
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,480
amount of investigatory work when doing their opposition research on him,

613
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:59,639
because that would have clearly come up the fact that

614
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:03,079
he did not go to that school, that his parents

615
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,920
are not Jewish, and YadA YadA, right, I mean, it

616
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,280
would have taken no time at all in order to,

617
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,320
you know, to acquire this information, not a skilled investigator,

618
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:18,760
just anybody with Google. So shame on us as Democrats

619
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,719
for not doing our homework and this is what you get.

620
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And shame on the Republicans for not admonishing him. And

621
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speaking of admonishments, you know, many years ago, when President

622
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Barack Obama was doing a State of the Union address,

623
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and it was in his second term, there was a

624
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,000
member of Congress by the name of Joe Wilson, I believe,

625
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:44,039
who stood up and he said something also to the

626
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:48,760
extent calling Obama a liar or something to that extent,

627
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,800
at which point in time he was admonished by Congress,

628
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,639
Republicans and Democrats alike admonished him, and good for them

629
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,159
for standing up for what's right. We this is not

630
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,119
parliament where you get up and you heckle the next guy.

631
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,239
We have our own rules, we have our own code

632
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,239
of conduct. And what Marjorie Taylor Green did, what Lauren

633
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,239
Bobert did, what Ted Cruz did, what Johnson did, what

634
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,760
a whole group of them did during that State of

635
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,320
the Union address, It's not just an embarrassment to them individually.

636
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:26,960
It's not just an embarrassed to the Republican Party. It's

637
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,639
an embarrassment to America in front of the whole world.

638
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,840
I guarantee you other countries are playing these clips all

639
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,840
over laughing at us. All right, And if we want

640
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,280
to be held to the highest level in the eyes

641
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,119
of the world, which I suspect that we do, or

642
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,400
at least we should, how do we allow these ask

643
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:51,320
clowns to do what they're doing and get away with

644
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,159
it with no repercussion. So since there's no repercussion, what

645
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,599
do you think happens at the next State of the Union.

646
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,719
It's gonna get worse. Marjorie Tail wanted to walk in

647
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:05,119
with a balloon with a big white balloon, thinking that

648
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,679
it's funny about the Chinese weather balloon or whatever that

649
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:14,440
balloon was that was flying over America. She's clearly deranged

650
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,920
and she needs to go along with Santos and so

651
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:22,119
many others, and not because they're Republicans. Replace them with

652
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,440
Republicans for all I care, but just ones that are sane,

653
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,840
ones that care more about the country than they're three

654
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,239
four five minutes on Newsmacks, Oh Wayan or Fox.

655
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: But Cohen, are there any sane Republicans? I could show

656
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:43,239
the image of Romney walking past Santos as the image

657
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,440
of what the Republican Party may once have been walking

658
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,320
by as the new Republican Party of Santos and Marjorie

659
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,360
Taylor Green and Lauren Bobert are standing right there. I

660
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,760
think they're very emblematic of who the Republican Party is.

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00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,719
They are a bunch of liars. I mean, you want

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,840
to just take the State of the Union address when

663
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,800
Biden said, look, these Republicans who are here, they want

664
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,039
to cut your Social Security, they want to take away

665
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,800
your Medicare. They have a plan to do that to

666
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,719
make sure it all sunsets and all these Maga Republican

667
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,480
senators and members of Congress go around to their base

668
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,400
and they give speeches that are recorded about them saying

669
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,559
things that they want to cut Social Security and they

670
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,440
want to take away your medicare. They've said it as

671
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,159
recent as the past few weeks. I mean heck Ron

672
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Johnson said it today on a radio interview. And then

673
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:36,440
when Biden here's the script. This is from a radio interview.

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00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,239
As we are speaking Cohen, this took place, and the

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00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,679
interviewer says, one of the few bipartisan applause lines of

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00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,280
Tuesday night was related to the notion that both sides

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00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,760
should agree not to touch Social Security and medicare. By

678
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,440
the way, that's not true. When Biden said it, the

679
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Maga Republicans booed because they claim that they were supporting

680
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,320
it when they weren't supporting it. And then the interviewer goes,

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00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,639
I get the reflexive political applause to that idea, but

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00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,440
these entitlement programs do need reforms. They don't have to

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00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,920
be cuts, but they need reforms, and we need to

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00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,679
do serious adult We need serious adults in Washington, d C.

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00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,039
Who are willing to take on the challenge and do

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00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:20,360
the work instead of engaging in this political arson against

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each side when it's even mentioned. Would you agree with that,

688
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,480
Ron Johnson, MAGA Republican. Yes, That's what I've talked about

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00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:28,679
from the first time I ran in twenty ten. I

690
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,760
just laid out the reality of social Security. It's a

691
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,360
legal Ponzi scheme. It is. It's a pay as you

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00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,000
go system. I mean, calling social Security a Ponzi scheme

693
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:44,320
something that is criminal and illegal, is not saying that

694
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,960
they're supportive of social Security. And that just happened right now.

695
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:53,000
And then you look to okay, as Romney's going that direction,

696
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,480
as MAGA Republicans are represented by Santos and Bobert and

697
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,719
Marjorie Taylor Green and Gomer and Gosaw. I mean, you

698
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,360
can't really name a single normal you know, MAGA Republican.

699
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,760
And this is why. Here, this is what Donald Trump,

700
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,639
the cult leader of the MAGA Republican Party. This is

701
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:13,039
what he's been doing in the past like twelve to

702
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:16,079
twenty four hours. So here's a post that he made

703
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,840
where he's reposting this account on his social media platform

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00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,239
Lara with three Stars and CSM Master or whatever. This

705
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,480
is like, this is a photo that he's posting of himself,

706
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,840
like some cartoonish photo of him on an American flag

707
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:40,679
with the eagles behind him, American flag tank, big flag energy,

708
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,159
it's some like this is some really weird and six

709
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,679
stuff here. Let's pull up this other one that he did.

710
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,199
He reposted this from somebody named Cocoa Beans that says

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00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,079
clowns have infiltrated every system around the globe. Trump is

712
00:44:56,119 --> 00:45:00,159
a master communicator, leads them around by the nose and

713
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,320
then shines light. The storm is brewing. Expect huge waves

714
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,920
and you just spelled y uge, gonna be biblical. Seek

715
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:14,679
shelter if in harm's way. Then there's this creepy photo

716
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,719
of Trump that says, Fate whispers to Trump, you cannot

717
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,119
withstand the storm. Trump whispers back, I am the storm.

718
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:27,039
That's a QAnon meme. That's a meme of a death

719
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:31,199
cult that he is posting on his social media platform.

720
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:36,280
And he is the leader of the Republican Party, the

721
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,280
Maga Republican Party, which it is today. That's what's going on,

722
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,079
and they don't call that out, and frankly, the large

723
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:47,960
media networks don't point that out. And as I've always said, Cohen.

724
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:50,880
If Biden, for all of the things we've said about

725
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,920
him on the show today, if he did one QAnon post,

726
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,039
just one, even with all of the accomplishments that he did,

727
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:03,360
confirm that he actually did it, Or any Democratic leader

728
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,440
they did one QAnon post and they really did it,

729
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,960
I'd stop supporting them because you have to have standards.

730
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:14,280
If you're willing to do that, there is no bottom.

731
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,400
So even for all the great that Biden's accomplished, I

732
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,159
would say you're out. We should impeach him if he's

733
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,639
doing q andon memes. Yet, for the Maga Republican Party,

734
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:29,360
they don't just tolerate death cult behavior, they're led by it.

735
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:34,039
Speaker 2: But then again, then we're referring to the Maga group,

736
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,800
and the Maga group is not the Republican Party. That's

737
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,639
the point, on top of everything else. Despite making the

738
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,039
Democratic Party bigger, better, stronger, so that our values, our

739
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:51,000
wishes and wants are heard, you know, by Washington and

740
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:57,480
effectuated by members of Congress and the President, there are

741
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,960
Republicans that do not agree with trump Ism. There are

742
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,960
Republicans that are not part of the Maga cult. These

743
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,480
people are easier to work with. This is why that

744
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:13,800
there has been, as Joe Biden stated, three hundred bills

745
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,000
signed so far to date in just two years that

746
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:21,239
are bipartisan. It's a record number three hundred and that's

747
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,599
again according to the President and the State of the

748
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,840
Union address. So there are actually good Republicans. And again

749
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,880
it's whether you agree with six out of the twelve

750
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,679
things that they stand for or two out of the

751
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,679
twelve things that they stand for. But it doesn't matter

752
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,920
as long as that they're saying this group of ar

753
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:47,840
fifteen wearing help in dopes. These people do not belong

754
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,199
in our house. They do not They do not stand

755
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,000
for American value, they do not stand for the Constitution.

756
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,800
They stand for autocracy. And if they had it their way,

757
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:02,800
we'd all be living in Guilliad under their rule. That's

758
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,400
what they want. You know.

759
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: I still struggle to find who the you know, who

760
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,760
these normal MAGA Republicans are, because even when I think, okay,

761
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,440
Larry Hogan and then he makes some statement like well,

762
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,159
if Donald Trump was our nominee, I'd support him, and

763
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:21,840
I was like, okay, well, I'm struggling to find him.

764
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:27,960
I think the party has been taken over by maga Republicans.

765
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:33,599
I think it's very unfortunate. I think, to the extent

766
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:39,039
there are normal Republicans, they have allowed that themselves to

767
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:43,920
be co opted. They could have taken a powerful stand

768
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,800
against the craziness, and frankly, Kevin McCarthy could have. Kevin

769
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,679
McCarthy would have had far more power and his what

770
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,639
will definitely be his short tenure would be far less humiliating.

771
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:01,960
He could have actually been a strong speaker, because all

772
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,079
he would have needed to have done is pull over

773
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,159
ten or fifteen Democrats, come up with a plan to

774
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,039
actually solve the nation's problems, and I think a lot

775
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,760
would be accomplished, and Kevin McCarthy could be viewed in

776
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,639
history as someone who did the right thing instead, rather

777
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:24,840
than playing to the center of the United States of America,

778
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,760
instead of listening to what was actually occurring in the midterms,

779
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,119
where people were saying we want normalcy, he went in

780
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:36,000
the opposite direction. And rather than appeal to the center

781
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,920
and appeal to most Americans. You know, and by the way,

782
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,440
concepts that I think are you I say the center,

783
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,599
but we're talking about concepts that should be universal at

784
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:48,519
the end of the day, like healthcare and jobs, and

785
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:53,480
infrastructure and protecting our veterans and making sure a woman

786
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:55,800
has control over our body. I mean, you know, go

787
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,159
on and on and on. But instead he played to

788
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,079
Matt Gates and Marjorietail Green and Lauren Bobert. And now

789
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:05,000
you see these committee hearings that we talked about on

790
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,480
the show, and so I do want to talk about the.

791
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,519
Speaker 2: You know what you also see, Ben is you see

792
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:19,199
the decent Republicans basically getting voted out, which is very scary.

793
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,199
One of our brigaders made a mention in a comment

794
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,880
which I totally agree with, that MAGA is taking over

795
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,760
the Republican Party. I don't believe that they're there yet,

796
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,719
but when you see people like Adam Kinzinger, who is

797
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,320
a veteran and who is you know, a man of principle,

798
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:45,239
getting tossed out simply because he wasn't MAGA enough, that's

799
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,559
the time that we need to really stand up. That's

800
00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:55,639
the time that you know, our supporters, you know, our brigaders,

801
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,159
that we all need to start bringing more people into

802
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,320
the political go beat down into the midas, into the

803
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,360
Maya culpa world so that they understand and that they

804
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,760
stay properly informed. All the time, and that as a group,

805
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:14,239
we are a significant voting block to ensure that people

806
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,880
like the Marjorie Taylor Greens, Josh Ally, Ted Cruise's, the

807
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:20,360
you know, Lauren Boberts. I mean, we can go on

808
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,400
and on with the same names over and over and over,

809
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,039
that they end up getting kicked out of Congress. Because

810
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,199
when I watch these these individuals walking around and that

811
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,519
they wear the congressional pin, whether it's around their neck

812
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:42,320
or on their lapels, it really burns me up because

813
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,880
you know, I worked I worked in the Congress. I

814
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,079
worked for Congressman Joe Moakley in nineteen eighty seven and

815
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:51,119
eighty eight while I was in college in Washington, d C.

816
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,360
And I tell you, I love that building and I

817
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,079
love working with everyone, Republicans and Democrats alike. And I

818
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,559
can tell you the group of people that were there

819
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:02,719
in those days are very different than the group that

820
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,760
are you know, in Congress today. And we need to fight,

821
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,039
That's all I can say. We need to be a

822
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,519
voting block, We need to be a force that is

823
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:13,800
going to be reckoned with. We need to hold people

824
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,320
to accountability. And I can go on and on, but

825
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,639
I'm going to go on with you, Ben to our

826
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,360
next topic.

827
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,039
Speaker 1: I want to talk about though, and this has got

828
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:26,480
to be near and dear to you, where the Maga

829
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:33,320
Republicans created this subcommittee about the weaponization of the Justice Department,

830
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:39,079
and they're saying the Biden Justice Department has been weaponized

831
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:44,320
against right wing people. Strangely, a lot of the things

832
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,639
they cite, though without any sense of irony, are people

833
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:51,480
that Donald Trump appointed, like Christopher Ray and things that

834
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:56,079
took place before January sixth. The Mega Republicans don't seem

835
00:52:56,119 --> 00:53:02,559
to realize who the government was before January sixth than

836
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:07,079
before Biden took office. But you know, don't you think

837
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,440
the result is going to be similar to what we

838
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,559
saw with these you know, these Twitter hearings where they're

839
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,519
trying to say, oh, look, the Twitter has been weaponized

840
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:18,519
by Democrats, but at the end of the day, it hasn't.

841
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,519
It's all based on these Reddit or four Chan conspiracy

842
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,800
theories that these Maga Republicans try to play out. But

843
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:29,920
when they actually have to speak in committee hearings. What

844
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,159
I love about the committee hearings is that they're live.

845
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,760
They're not like Fox sound bites, so you can't just

846
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,320
get the two minutes of them getting kind of the

847
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,559
softball question from Fox that they could say, and you

848
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:48,960
really see just the difference of intelligence and truth on

849
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:51,760
the one hand with the Democrats on the committee and

850
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:57,639
the idiocracy, fascism, conspiracy theories, weirdness. You see it really

851
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,000
play out in these committee hearings. A total backfire, I

852
00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:04,639
think for the MAGA Republicans, be careful what you asked for,

853
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,440
you want these committees. Essentially, the Democrats are using the

854
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,199
committees now to show with these witnesses that it was

855
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,440
Trump who would engage in all of it. They're like

856
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,360
gimmes for the Democrats. It's really incredible. What do you

857
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,920
make of this weaponization hearing? Though it has taken place

858
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:24,639
right now, the so called weaponization hearing, that's what the

859
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:27,039
MAGA Republicans are calling it.

860
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: So this is an interesting scenario. Obviously, if you look

861
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,880
at the title of my book Revenge, How Donald Trump

862
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,840
weaponized the United States Department of Justice against his critics,

863
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:41,280
it's almost like a foreshadow to what's going on now.

864
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:46,239
Jim Jordan is leading this committee, and you know it

865
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,679
is a bipartisan committee. So I was having a conversation

866
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,960
with one of my lawyers Jeff Levigne, who by coincidence,

867
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:56,960
is a friend of mine for literally forty years, and

868
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,000
he was with me the day that I was unconstitutionally remained.

869
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:03,239
So one of the things that we did is we

870
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,880
drafted out two page documents and then sent a whole

871
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,800
slew of attachments. We sent it on the day that

872
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,679
this subcommittee was formed. We sent it to Jim Jordan,

873
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,400
We sent it to every single member of that committee,

874
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:26,079
Republican and Democrat alike, saying, I believe that you, like us,

875
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:32,159
want to see by partisan review of the weaponization of

876
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:36,679
the Department of Justice, because our Justice Department has taken

877
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,239
a massive beating in terms of public belief in their

878
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:44,440
you know, in who they are and what they stand for.

879
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,559
So we sent them all this documents stating that if

880
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:53,719
it's really to be a bipartisan, fair committee that is

881
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,440
attempting to get to the bottom of an issue, well

882
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,840
how about start with the case of the United States

883
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,719
versus Michael Cohen, And here are some documents in order

884
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,159
to demonstrate how Donald Trump, with the usage of Bill Barr,

885
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:15,119
weaponized the Department of Justice to unconstitutionally remand me because

886
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:19,360
I refuse to waive my First Amendment constitutional right, making

887
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,960
me the first political prisoner in my own country. If not,

888
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:26,440
what does that mean? That means that this is not

889
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:29,400
a real committee, That this is a mickey mouse. It's

890
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,480
a kangaroo committee that's simply established in order to go

891
00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:38,960
after Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, doctor Fauci and whoever the

892
00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:41,800
critic is that they feel that they need to go

893
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,280
after and this is really problematic. We will find out

894
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,239
what happens, because I do know that every single one

895
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,360
of these members have a copy of that letter with

896
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,440
the attachments. So stay tuned, Stay tuned, because as soon

897
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,800
as I find out anything, we will be reporting it

898
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,360
live first right here on Political Beatdown. Exactly what happens

899
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:11,480
and exactly their response. If they ignore it, we know

900
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:15,039
where they stand. If they dismiss it, we know where

901
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:17,800
they stand. If they accept it and they want to

902
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,599
have a bipartisan hearing, no problem. Now we also know

903
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:24,679
where they stand. And my hope is that Jim Jordan

904
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:30,360
actually does want to have the restoration of the image

905
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:33,360
of the Department of Justice. I really do hope that

906
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,519
the committee is established for the right reasons and not

907
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:40,760
the wrong reasons. And again I'm not confident in it,

908
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:44,039
but it is my hope, and we will find out

909
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:47,480
based upon how they elect to handle the weaponization of

910
00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:48,239
Michael Cohen.

911
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:55,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think that to have any confidence in Jim

912
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,119
Jordan or anything would be misplaced, to say the least,

913
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:04,079
hope Spring Eternal. I am very confident though that it's

914
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:07,559
going to be an utter and complete fascist clown show.

915
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,440
You're gonna have Jim Jordan pointing all around with his

916
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:15,039
conspiracy theories, acting like a complete and utter moron, and

917
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:17,920
I think all you're going to show is that who

918
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:22,320
is weaponizing government are people like Jim Jordan, are people

919
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,920
like Matt Gates, And these are the people who want

920
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:32,440
to turn our democracy into a Russian style authoritarian oligarchy.

921
00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:36,360
That is their goal, through their disinformation, through all their

922
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,679
authoritarian tactics. And that is why we will call it

923
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:42,519
out and continue to call it out here on the

924
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:47,079
Political Beatdown with Cohen and my Cells. I'm being told

925
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,320
Cohen that in terms of the Jack Smith, we're gonna

926
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,480
save that one for the Midas Touch podcast, as we're

927
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:57,440
coming up on an hour on this show, so everybody

928
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,960
can check out the Midas Touch brother podcast to hear

929
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:05,239
about special counsel Jack Smith and more on that. But Cohen,

930
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,039
some more breaking news from you on this show. I'm

931
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:14,039
so thrilled to be doing this number fourteenth in the nation. Really,

932
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I just have so much fun doing this with you. Cohen.

933
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It's a dream come true. I want to thank you,

934
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,519
want to thank everybody out there. Special shout out to

935
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the Midas Mighty. Check out Cohen's book, Revenge. It's out

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right now. It's an incredible, incredible book How Donald Trump

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weaponized the US Department of Justice against his critics. Revenge,

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the book by Michael Cohen, and also check out store

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is incredible, Maya Kulpa Nothing but the Truth. That's where

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Cohen goes one on one with a number of guests.

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the Midas Touched Network. Check out Maya Kulpa. Make sure

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you subscribe there as well. I'm Ben Mysellas joined by

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Michael Cohen. Thank you to the Beatdown Brigade.

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