Speaker 1: You created everything.
Speaker 2: What put a powerful being?
Speaker 3: You are?
Speaker 1: You did these things, but now you're in a human body.
Speaker 2: You forget the power you have.
Speaker 4: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 4: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 4: something the whole universe is doing, in the same way
Speaker 4: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.
Speaker 1: You're doing, You're doing what. Welcome to metamistics, where you
Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 2: My name is Jonathan, I'm Sean.
Speaker 1: And today we got Tyler from the Journey to Truth podcast.
Speaker 1: What to do? My dude? Oh you muted yourself?
Speaker 3: I am okay, there we go, buddy, what did? I'm
Speaker 3: happy to be here, man, thanks for thanks for reaching
Speaker 3: out and setting this up. And I don't know where
Speaker 3: we're going to go with this conversation today, but I'm
Speaker 3: here for it. I love the stuff you've been doing
Speaker 3: and putting out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I've been kind of scrolling through your channel and s
Speaker 3: right up my alley of course, and just happy to
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, Well look, I mean we we created this show
Speaker 1: a little over two years ago. Because I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: it kind of came out of necessity on the cult.
Speaker 1: I kept on trying to always want to talk about
Speaker 1: all the different weird spiritual phenomenons and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, right, And you know, whenever you have a
Speaker 1: co host that is like a very devout Christian, it's
Speaker 1: hard to have those kind of conversations open mindedly, right,
Speaker 1: sure of course, And you know rightfully, so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to change anybody's mind on anything either,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, so whenever you guys came on, man,
Speaker 1: that was just it almost like sparked something in me
Speaker 1: to where I was like, I gotta do something else,
Speaker 1: you know, like conversations like that. It was just like
Speaker 1: this is the stuff that I am so interested in,
Speaker 1: because once you look at all of the conspiracies, there's
Speaker 1: only so far like a conspiracy can take you until
Speaker 1: you need to start getting a little spiritual with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, right, you can either, yeah, you have a choice
Speaker 3: either throw it away and like squeeze yourself back into
Speaker 3: some cardboard cutout version of yourself and go into the matrix,
Speaker 3: or keep exploring it and use each one of those
Speaker 3: theories or conspiracy theories as a stepping stone to something
Speaker 3: greater because that's where it will take you.
Speaker 5: I think it's very interesting, you know, like you guys
Speaker 5: were saying as far as like going down these rabbit
Speaker 5: holes and figuring out how much of reality that you
Speaker 5: thought was one way, you know, and then come to
Speaker 5: find out like, oh, there's so much shit going on.
Speaker 5: You know, it's definitely not what I thought. And then
Speaker 5: you then you turn in word and go, Okay, well
Speaker 5: what is it about myself that I thought was real?
Speaker 2: And it's not? You know, so it's very fascinating.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, the path of self discovery is like
Speaker 3: the ultimate quest here, and I think that anybody that
Speaker 3: actually takes that seriously, I mean, there's some beautiful opportunities
Speaker 3: there because you know, it's a hard path because you
Speaker 3: have to face your shadow. You have to question everything
Speaker 3: that you thought you believed in, everything that you identified with,
Speaker 3: including mundane things that you don't didn't think were affecting
Speaker 3: your life but were, and you know it could sometimes.
Speaker 3: You know, it takes literally uprooting your entire life. Like
Speaker 3: I had to leave my hometown and moved all the
Speaker 3: way here to Sedona really for the next check, the
Speaker 3: next step, because I felt like I took my journey
Speaker 3: as far as I could go in Saint Louis, and
Speaker 3: I felt like I was on a hamster wheel there.
Speaker 3: I was stagnant. I just knew I had to break
Speaker 3: free and get out. And since I've left, my life
Speaker 3: has just changed exponentially and in so many ways, And like,
Speaker 3: I feel like this whole new path has just opened up.
Speaker 3: Because I took that leap, I understood where I was
Speaker 3: at my journey, and it literally required me physically relocated.
Speaker 3: It's gonna look different for everybody, but it's definitely if
Speaker 3: you if you're serious about it, it requires serious change.
Speaker 3: You know, change requires change.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, dude. And this is how I feel
Speaker 1: about it. And I'm sure everybody has their own way
Speaker 1: of going about it, but I just feel like, with
Speaker 1: with everything that you take in on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: like if you're an actual, like a real truth searcher,
Speaker 1: like you're a real like you're trying to get to
Speaker 1: the bare bones of whatever the truth is, you know,
Speaker 1: forget the myths, but what's the underlying shit that it's
Speaker 1: trying to tell us? Almost you know, and then even
Speaker 1: you know, combining that with all the different conspiracies and
Speaker 1: the illusions of the world being absolutely pommeled, right, Like,
Speaker 1: how do we how do you just like look at
Speaker 1: all of that and then not evolve spiritually along with it?
Speaker 1: You know, That's the thing that always got me. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: how could we could how do we just stay thinking
Speaker 1: the exact same spiritually even though our understanding of the
Speaker 1: world and of ourselves is constantly evolving with every day
Speaker 1: of research, right, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's interesting. It reminds me of there's this Australian
Speaker 3: podcast I forgot the name of it. I released my
Speaker 3: book earlier this year and it somehow caught when somehow
Speaker 3: these guys in Australia caught wind of it and decided
Speaker 3: to read it and do an entire episode on my book,
Speaker 3: which actually was amazing for the launch because even though
Speaker 3: it was like a semi hit piece because they thought
Speaker 3: I was a little crazy, it helped my sales a lot.
Speaker 3: Now I'm grateful for it. But what they said was,
Speaker 3: you know, they pulled up our website, Journey the Truth,
Speaker 3: while they were on the episode and they were just
Speaker 3: kind of scrolling through some of our stuff, and one
Speaker 3: of the guys in the show, he's like, these guys
Speaker 3: remind me of us if we kept going down the
Speaker 3: rabbit hole, and instead what they did was they got
Speaker 3: so far down the rabbit hole, stopped, didn't know what
Speaker 3: to believe in anymore, and started a podcast to kind
Speaker 3: of make fun of it all. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: there's still bringing these topics to people's attention, but they're
Speaker 3: coming to the conclusion that people are just insane or
Speaker 3: delusional or whatever it is. And I think that's what
Speaker 3: we're looking at because whenever you do start understanding that
Speaker 3: your reality is fundamentally different than you grew up believing
Speaker 3: and you start talking about that, it even especially when
Speaker 3: you say out loud or you try to write a book,
Speaker 3: it does sound insane. And a lot of people are scared.
Speaker 3: I mean, humans are scared of not fitting in right,
Speaker 3: that's just kind of we're that's programmed into us. So
Speaker 3: it really takes that, like going within and going on
Speaker 3: that spiritual journey to not be afraid of that and
Speaker 3: then be like this trailblazer, just go out there and
Speaker 3: step into that spotlight and do whatever you have to do,
Speaker 3: be on the front lines of disclosure, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: and just literally not care what people think. And it's
Speaker 3: not easy because there are trolls and there are haters,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of pushback, and it's not necessarily
Speaker 3: the the easiest path, but it's the most rewarding. I
Speaker 3: would say, Oh.
Speaker 1: Dude, if you're constantly searching for everybody's approval, you're never
Speaker 1: going to get anywhere in life, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you. So I've been podcasting for like
Speaker 1: five years now, right, And if you don't have thick
Speaker 1: skin to go into those comments and just read people
Speaker 1: obliterating you on a daily I don't. I don't check
Speaker 1: it on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: I don't even go through them.
Speaker 1: Every so often I go and look, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe there's a little constructive criticism in there. You never
Speaker 1: know what can help, right, But then there's other people
Speaker 1: that are just completely whittling you down to you until
Speaker 1: you're a like a pencil eraser, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And and there's just nothing left. And so and that's
Speaker 1: kind of the courage you got to have whenever you're
Speaker 1: putting yourself out there, whether it is podcasting or dude,
Speaker 1: writing a book. I mean, how big of an undertaking
Speaker 1: was that? Because that is something that we're very curious
Speaker 1: about potentially in the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was I don't know where my book
Speaker 3: is at around here somewhere, but that was one of
Speaker 3: the hardest things. It was. It literally takes almost you
Speaker 3: have to put your life on hold if you're really serious,
Speaker 3: especially when it comes down to the wire, and if
Speaker 3: you don't create a deadline for yourself, you're never going
Speaker 3: to get it done. You know, all these things. But
Speaker 3: mine was a very It was a very It took
Speaker 3: a lot of vulnerability to tell my story. It was
Speaker 3: just my spiritual awakening. But it's not necessarily it's a
Speaker 3: dark Some parts of it are very dark. I went
Speaker 3: through a lot of darkness to even find the light
Speaker 3: and figure out who I was and what I was
Speaker 3: doing here and all this stuff. And it takes a
Speaker 3: lot out of you because you've got to relive some
Speaker 3: of those moments and everything, and it's you're emotionally invested
Speaker 3: in this project and you release it and you wonder
Speaker 3: how people are going to receive it. So at one
Speaker 3: point I had to literally the last month leading up
Speaker 3: to it, almost two months, I just had to stop
Speaker 3: doing everything. Luckily, I'm in the position where I work
Speaker 3: from home and I can do that, and I just
Speaker 3: it was winter in Saint Louis, and I just wrote
Speaker 3: and I wrote, and to the point where it almost
Speaker 3: wasn't healthy. I was like, I need to get up
Speaker 3: and move. But had I not done that, the book
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been out on time for the conference we were hosting.
Speaker 3: And I had set this deadline for myself. But also,
Speaker 3: whenever you do that, it allows you to shift and
Speaker 3: go within and dig deep and put poured this stuff
Speaker 3: out onto paper. And they realized it's like a healing
Speaker 3: process too. So you know, when you get these stories
Speaker 3: out and you get it down, it creates space for
Speaker 3: new things, you know, and then you're not like rerunning
Speaker 3: these same programs, stories, whatever in your head over and over,
Speaker 3: and now they're out and it's like, oh, I can
Speaker 3: I can let go of that stuff now here it
Speaker 3: is if I ever want to look at it again,
Speaker 3: But now I can move.
Speaker 5: Forward, right, And then you know, it's strange because you
Speaker 5: know what in the mind, I feel like we all
Speaker 5: kind of have a sense of we haven't figured out
Speaker 5: or at least you know, our own reality, what it
Speaker 5: all is, right, and then you get it out on paper,
Speaker 5: like you were saying, you're making it tangible, and you
Speaker 5: can see really how much clear that is when you
Speaker 5: can look at it and.
Speaker 2: Read it back.
Speaker 5: And and like you said, the space now that you have
Speaker 5: for for new stuff. I imagine writing a book, especially
Speaker 5: on a spiritual journey and everything that you've been through
Speaker 5: has got to be really tough, you know, because I
Speaker 5: feel like, you know, Jonathan and I we've been doing
Speaker 5: this for two years. I mean, he's been on his
Speaker 5: spiritual journey much longer than I have. But I mean
Speaker 5: I feel like we're constantly evolving, We're constantly changing our
Speaker 5: mind and kind of like scrapping things and in taking
Speaker 5: more things.
Speaker 2: And so how has that affected you as far as
Speaker 2: you know, you know, putting all this information into your book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I come to the conclusion that I don't
Speaker 3: know what I don't know, you know, or I know
Speaker 3: that I'm type of.
Speaker 1: Thing philosopher that said that one time, Yeah, Socrates.
Speaker 3: But I I think it's important to not marry yourself
Speaker 3: to any ideas or beliefs or anything, because then what
Speaker 3: you do is you attach your identity to it, and
Speaker 3: then whenever it gets disproven or debunked or you just
Speaker 3: might realize you were just wrong in the first place.
Speaker 3: It makes it even harder for you because now you've
Speaker 3: made it part of who you are. But if you
Speaker 3: can detach from that and look at everything objectively with
Speaker 3: no bias, it's a much healthier approach. So I wrote
Speaker 3: my book not trying to convince anybody of anything. I
Speaker 3: went into the book with that awareness, and I said
Speaker 3: I want in the forward, I was like, I just
Speaker 3: want everybody to take this as an opportunity to drop
Speaker 3: into their heart and feel and let and feel what
Speaker 3: this information does to your body. Let like, feel how
Speaker 3: your body responds to this information, and let your body
Speaker 3: tell you if it's true or not. Let your heart
Speaker 3: tell you if it's true. I'm not here to tell
Speaker 3: you one way or the other. This is just what
Speaker 3: happened to me. And I know it sounds crazy, but
Speaker 3: you know, I just wanted to let people know that
Speaker 3: this is not me trying to tell you this is
Speaker 3: the truth. In fact, I want people to decide for themselves,
Speaker 3: and I'm willing to be wrong about a lot of things,
Speaker 3: but at this point in my life, that's what it
Speaker 3: looked like. And I put put it, you know, out
Speaker 3: for everyone to read, and it's the vulnerable thing to do.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad I did it.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, did you get to a certain point and
Speaker 5: you're actually okay with being wrong? Like I have no
Speaker 5: problem with someone correcting me and telling me actually, it's
Speaker 5: like this, And then I can look at that and go, actually,
Speaker 5: you know what, that does make more sense, Like the
Speaker 5: more I'm wrong, the more I get an opportunity to
Speaker 5: learn something. And so yeah, right, we've we've come a
Speaker 5: long way, you know, because a long time ago someone
Speaker 5: told you you're wrong. That's an attack on your ego
Speaker 5: and you know, that's like a piece of you that
Speaker 5: you've been, like you said, married to, and it's.
Speaker 3: It's and there's many ego deaths that have came my way,
Speaker 3: you know, and you just have to like, you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes I still find myself getting triggered. We all have,
Speaker 3: and there's things that but but now I don't get
Speaker 3: mad at the person. I take a moment and ask myself, Okay,
Speaker 3: why am I still getting triggered about this? What what
Speaker 3: surrounding this? Am I still not okay with? You know?
Speaker 3: And then you just have to be real with yourself.
Speaker 3: And it's constantly keeping yourself in check, you know, and
Speaker 3: looking in the mirror and whatever it is. But as
Speaker 3: soon as you find yourself lashing out or projecting on
Speaker 3: someone else, and I take that as a sign like, Okay,
Speaker 3: something is out of alignment within me, and I need
Speaker 3: to take care of that first. So and I'm willing
Speaker 3: to be wrong, but sometimes I've I've entertained the opposing
Speaker 3: viewpoints or whatever, and actually it's solidified what I've I've
Speaker 3: come to conclude. You know, it can happen both ways,
Speaker 3: because I'm like, no, actually, because I've seen this other
Speaker 3: perspective now, it actually somehow makes what I've believe in.
Speaker 3: I guess you could say make more sense. You know.
Speaker 3: It just depends on what it is. But it's different
Speaker 3: all the time. It's always changing, and I think reality
Speaker 3: is always changing. I mean, they're just I mean, you
Speaker 3: can get into timelines and who knows what history is,
Speaker 3: and things are like it's malleable. Time is malleable. This
Speaker 3: reality is malleable. We're talking about their dimensions and stuff.
Speaker 3: So even when people are tapping into information, it's like,
Speaker 3: where's that information actually coming from? Because we can only
Speaker 3: see like one percent of our reality, right so I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, you just have to understand that anything
Speaker 3: could be possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what's so fascinating, dude. You know, we
Speaker 1: we did a real deep dive on just like understanding
Speaker 1: what happens to the like the mind and the consciousness
Speaker 1: and the ego and everything. Whenever it's on psychedelics, right,
Speaker 1: and just that kind of stuff, it just blows me away,
Speaker 1: you know, because for the longest time, people just thought,
Speaker 1: you know, mushrooms, acid, you know, DMT whatever, that it
Speaker 1: was just hallucinations. That's just your mind. It's nothing, it's nothing. Really,
Speaker 1: don't even pay attention to it. And people said the
Speaker 1: same thing about dreams. I'm like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: feel like there's something more there, you know. And and
Speaker 1: and the people that wake up and they're in sleep
Speaker 1: paralysis and they're experiencing things that don't seem to be
Speaker 1: of this reality. It's like, that can't just be their mind.
Speaker 1: That's and maybe maybe maybe it is, and we just
Speaker 1: don't understand the mind, you know, maybe that's maybe that's
Speaker 1: what it is. But just to whittle it down to
Speaker 1: it's just a couple of chemicals that are you know, uh,
Speaker 1: misfiring or whatever in your brain. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: accept that. You know there's something there now.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're living in a multi dimensional reality as
Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, and I don't know what that
Speaker 3: necessarily means, but I know there's more out there than
Speaker 3: we can perceive, which means they would be existing in
Speaker 3: another frequency, which by definition would mean they're in another
Speaker 3: dimension or density or whatever it is. So if that's
Speaker 3: the case, then we just simply have to entertain all possibilities.
Speaker 3: And I've experienced these paralysis, but I've woken up and
Speaker 3: seen physical shadow beings in my room. I've I mean,
Speaker 3: that's what my book is about. You know. It starts
Speaker 3: off about the whole dream warfare and astral experiences, and
Speaker 3: it goes into at the very end, ironically, is the
Speaker 3: third part of the book is an entire mushroom a
Speaker 3: download I got from a mushroom trip. But I wasn't
Speaker 3: going to put that in my book because at first
Speaker 3: I was afraid, you know, people would think it was nuts.
Speaker 3: But every time I told the story, everyone was like
Speaker 3: kind of like their jaw was on the ground, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of like one of those stories like you gotta
Speaker 3: write that down. You got to tell people this, and
Speaker 3: and it was their reaction, it was everyone else that
Speaker 3: convinced me to put it in the book. And then
Speaker 3: once I started writing it down, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I really am This isn't just like some random thing
Speaker 3: that happened while I was on mushrooms. This is like
Speaker 3: a profound spiritual journey that literally taught me things about
Speaker 3: the universe that I would have never discovered any other way.
Speaker 3: And it's it's just such a valuable and you know,
Speaker 3: a valuable way. So much value insight came from that
Speaker 3: psychedelic experience that you can't write that stuff off is
Speaker 3: just something crazy because it's not.
Speaker 1: Dude, I one hundred percent agree. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: certain psychedelic, you know, experiences that we've all had, and
Speaker 1: they all seem more real than real. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. That is something that happened and I'll never
Speaker 1: forget it. And the way that it just like, you know,
Speaker 1: impressed me from even an emotional standpoint. I don't mean
Speaker 1: impressed like you know, wow, it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say, but like the
Speaker 1: idea of like what is going on in those things.
Speaker 1: That stuff is so extremely real. And as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I'm actually driving out to uh to uh
Speaker 1: Shawn's house tomorrow and we're going to We're going there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna go into that realm. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun time. It's been a while and
Speaker 1: it has, I mean, and and that's something that we
Speaker 1: don't We don't like to do it all the time
Speaker 1: because I feel like then if you're doing it all
Speaker 1: the time, it almost waters it down, unless you're like
Speaker 1: micro dosing or something that's different. But if you're blasting
Speaker 1: the fuck off, you know, like I don't know, once
Speaker 1: a week or a couple of times a week, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I almost feel like it takes away from the meaning
Speaker 1: of what you're experiencing.
Speaker 3: Right. And it's also like I feel like it's it's
Speaker 3: constantly trying to take the shortcut too, because I think
Speaker 3: we can achieve some of this stuff on our own too,
Speaker 3: through like deep states and meditation and stuff. And I
Speaker 3: think it's good to challenge yourself and see what you
Speaker 3: can do without the assistance of some of these plant
Speaker 3: medicines or drugs. But that doesn't mean like I think
Speaker 3: I've explored you know, DMT and mushrooms and stuff, and
Speaker 3: I've had profound blast off experiences and I've had the
Speaker 3: darkest experiences. You know. Sometimes you start it's almost like
Speaker 3: this journey, right, like this hero's journey. You got to
Speaker 3: like start off in these hell realms and like, and
Speaker 3: it's like this quest and you have to like overcome
Speaker 3: these obstacles and then you get past that, then you
Speaker 3: get to like this higher realm where everything's beautiful and
Speaker 3: it's light and like you're learning about the universe and stuff.
Speaker 3: But twice I had to encounter my demons first to
Speaker 3: get past that. So it's it's like a whole test.
Speaker 3: Like it's just there's just something to it that's so
Speaker 3: much more than just a recreational drug. And if you
Speaker 3: go into it seriously with an intention, I think you
Speaker 3: can really make some breakthroughs. And I think it's worth trying.
Speaker 3: And maybe it's not for everybody, but if you know,
Speaker 3: if your interest, if you're leaning into it, or it
Speaker 3: sounds like something you want to do, you know, do
Speaker 3: do so responsibly.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that it absolutely takes a curious
Speaker 1: mind to want to do it. You know, like that's
Speaker 1: not something that you should be ever forced into. That
Speaker 1: should be something that you kind of it's your time.
Speaker 1: You know, you have agreed that this is the the
Speaker 1: you know, position in your journey that now is the
Speaker 1: right time for that kind of stuff. And you know,
Speaker 1: and I mean in mushrooms obviously a little bit easier
Speaker 1: than DMT. I'm depending on the amount of mushrooms that
Speaker 1: you take, right but like you know, if you're just
Speaker 1: taking you know, two or three grams of whatever hydroponic
Speaker 1: mushrooms or whatever, it's going to be a good time,
Speaker 1: you know. But you start, you eat a handful of
Speaker 1: those fucking things, and you know what kind of entities
Speaker 1: you're gonna make, you know.
Speaker 3: I did the handful. I did, like over twice the
Speaker 3: recommend a dosage from the person I bought them from.
Speaker 3: And I don't remember even specifically which kind they were
Speaker 3: because I don't know much about mushrooms. But I went
Speaker 3: in with an intention, but it didn't start off well.
Speaker 3: And in fact that I went immediately to what I
Speaker 3: would call the hell realms, Like it was like this
Speaker 3: very it was very stereotypical hell, like what we've seen
Speaker 3: depicted in Hollywood. And stuff, and I encountered Lucifer like
Speaker 3: this just the entity like literally walked up to me.
Speaker 3: And it's a whole long story. That's why I wrote
Speaker 3: in the book. But I'm telling this because it was.
Speaker 3: I was. It was so real, you know. First of all,
Speaker 3: my body was like melted on the couch, like the
Speaker 3: world could have ended. And I wasn't moving from the
Speaker 3: couch whatever. Let it burned, you know, because I just
Speaker 3: couldn't get out. I physically couldn't get up. That's how
Speaker 3: That's how gone I was. And I just was leaving
Speaker 3: my body, but it was so real. My mind didn't
Speaker 3: know the difference, and I thought I was I actually
Speaker 3: was having heart attack symptoms because I was stuck in
Speaker 3: this hell room, right and I couldn't get out, and
Speaker 3: my body didn't know a difference, and like I was
Speaker 3: like my hand was going non and all stuff. I'm
Speaker 3: starting to panic, and every time I closed my eyes,
Speaker 3: I was back there. I couldn't even I couldn't get
Speaker 3: out of it, you know. And I finally was able
Speaker 3: to somehow leave my body and look at myself laying
Speaker 3: on the couch and I was like, oh, you're just
Speaker 3: on the couch, Tyler, You're not in hell. You just
Speaker 3: you just took mushrooms. You're on the couch. It's okay.
Speaker 3: So I was able to like actually like have an
Speaker 3: out of body experience and look down on my body,
Speaker 3: and that's how I was able to calm myself down
Speaker 3: out of it. And it's a whole it's a whole
Speaker 3: long story how I actually got pulled out of that.
Speaker 3: But it was real, Like it was so real that
Speaker 3: my physical body was reacting to it, which tells you something.
Speaker 5: Dude, I can't even imagine, like needless to say, you know,
Speaker 5: going through a hellish type of experience, but jumping out
Speaker 5: of your body and then like after you have that
Speaker 5: type of experience, I feel like it would be hard
Speaker 5: to be talked out of that. You know, someone can
Speaker 5: tell you, oh, you're not actually going out of body,
Speaker 5: but I imagine you feel like you actually were out
Speaker 5: of body.
Speaker 3: I mean, as far as the way I remember it,
Speaker 3: there's no other way to tell the story. Like I
Speaker 3: literally was looking at myself laying on the couch, and
Speaker 3: I was able to remember that I was on the
Speaker 3: couch and not literally trapped in this hell realm. Like
Speaker 3: that's like, that's what it was for me. Whatever. If
Speaker 3: that was all just in my head or whatever, it's
Speaker 3: up for interpretation, I guess. Or but that's the way
Speaker 3: I happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's the case, then every single thing
Speaker 1: that you experience in reality is all in your head too. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: It's like, how do we discern even that at that point?
Speaker 1: I think that you know, look, if all we are
Speaker 1: is consciousness, and these meat suits are our vehicles foresaid
Speaker 1: conscious you know, I don't. I don't think that necessarily
Speaker 1: the spirit or the consciousness necessarily needs to sleep or
Speaker 1: necessarily must stay attached to our body, and you know,
Speaker 1: within our awareness, I think that it can just go
Speaker 1: off that I'm I'm that's probably what's happening in dreams.
Speaker 1: That's probably what's happening in psychedelic trips and meditations and everything,
Speaker 1: right right, And there's just something really magical about that too.
Speaker 1: You know, once you really, like dude, you keep a
Speaker 1: dream journal and like wake up and start writing in
Speaker 1: that thing every single morning, the dreams become more insane,
Speaker 1: you know, like just your ability to retain your dreams.
Speaker 1: And I've been trying, I've kind of been slacking on
Speaker 1: that here lately. I'm not gonna lie, but easier said
Speaker 1: than done, because sometimes you wake up you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like doing anything, you know, and and it
Speaker 1: was it was a pretty mid dream. Any Do I
Speaker 1: really need to write that one down? And then you know,
Speaker 1: you're just talking yourself out of it?
Speaker 3: But right?
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, So you said that you were experiencing
Speaker 1: basically hell with Lucifer. Do you think and I'm I
Speaker 1: have no idea either way, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, do you think that those are subconscious
Speaker 1: archetypes of your mind that you've built of Hell and
Speaker 1: of Lucifer? Like, have you thought about it that way
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, one hundred percent. I've had that same thought.
Speaker 3: I was like, either my mind is showing me this
Speaker 3: stereotypical hell that I was programmed to believe in, or
Speaker 3: this is really what it looks like Like that is
Speaker 3: just like the two conclusions I came to. And you know,
Speaker 3: it started off where I was like, in this it
Speaker 3: was just cavern system and there was like this flowing
Speaker 3: magma just like you were seeing the movies. And I
Speaker 3: was following this. I was like, you know, almost like
Speaker 3: astral projecting right, you're not really in your body. And
Speaker 3: I was following this magma flow and I came to
Speaker 3: this like cave interest with h three headed dog Cerberus,
Speaker 3: who guards the gates of Haiti's hell. And it was
Speaker 3: this whole like standoff between me and the dogs, and
Speaker 3: then they they like almost turned their head like they
Speaker 3: were getting orders from like something else, and then they
Speaker 3: just stepped out of the way. And then I went
Speaker 3: through this cavern and it was like this whole long
Speaker 3: tunnel like this orange lye at the end of it,
Speaker 3: and it was dark, and I just kept going through
Speaker 3: and I came out. It was just it was a
Speaker 3: massive underground city basically with like catacombs like these these
Speaker 3: dwellings in the in the cave walls, but like as
Speaker 3: far up and down as you could see, and in
Speaker 3: the center was like this portal where these demons were
Speaker 3: like flying in and out of and like every monster
Speaker 3: you can imagine in a scary movie, a cartoon, everything
Speaker 3: in a comic book, everything you've ever seen, it was
Speaker 3: real and it was there going in and out of
Speaker 3: this portals. And then this giant guy with redskin like
Speaker 3: literally the stereotypical lucifer like almost like I know he
Speaker 3: presented himself that way just because that's how I would
Speaker 3: recognize him. He come, he approached me, and he said
Speaker 3: something along the lines of welcome to my home, and
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a lucifer and he goes, he might
Speaker 3: know me as and he and he morphed into an
Speaker 3: on Anaki like one of those wing down in noakeis.
Speaker 3: He goes, you might know me as anky morphing into
Speaker 3: these different beings from our history, right, and it was
Speaker 3: like he was just showing me all of his forms,
Speaker 3: how he's been depicted over the years. And then he
Speaker 3: was like basically a whole long story. He's like, come
Speaker 3: with me, and he took off and flew through that
Speaker 3: portal and I followed him, and then we were like
Speaker 3: astral projecting over the United States and we went to
Speaker 3: it was like a southern state, maybe Alabama, Arkansas, I
Speaker 3: don't know, and we want to it a small town
Speaker 3: and we were like hovering over the town and then
Speaker 3: he like somehow was able to zoom in reality, like
Speaker 3: he had the remote and I was and he zoomed
Speaker 3: in on the people and then like pushed his button
Speaker 3: and they became translucent like I could see through their skin.
Speaker 3: What And then and then he zoomed in even more
Speaker 3: and I could see all these people crawling with parasites
Speaker 3: and and he goes, that's how the devil dances. And
Speaker 3: I was like, what is that? And he said they're hookworms.
Speaker 3: And he's like, you know, it's not an accident that
Speaker 3: Americans love their bacon. And he said, pork is infested
Speaker 3: with hookworms, and hookworms control your mind. And and he
Speaker 3: was like, and he was like, this is how we
Speaker 3: control you. This is how we do it. And and
Speaker 3: then like everybody, virtually everyone had parasites of some form.
Speaker 3: I was seeing like through their skin. Right then we
Speaker 3: flew literally to Washington, d c. And like over the
Speaker 3: White House and like there was we went into the
Speaker 3: billion there's all these politicians and congressmen. And then he
Speaker 3: did the same thing, except they weren't they weren't infested
Speaker 3: with parasites. They were parasites. And he said and he said,
Speaker 3: humans are not running your world. And it was literally
Speaker 3: just showing me like it's just like it's his parasitic
Speaker 3: Like parasitic thought forms are real. So if you have
Speaker 3: parasites in you, they can control your mind. They can
Speaker 3: give you negative thoughts, they can convince you or whatever.
Speaker 3: And basically the I don't know why, Like he was
Speaker 3: showing me his hand, I'm thinking, why has he showed
Speaker 3: me this? But then you know, any powerful person they
Speaker 3: like to brag about what they can do, and it
Speaker 3: felt like he was just bragging about what they were
Speaker 3: doing and we were too stupid. He was like you
Speaker 3: humans will believe anything, and just going on and on,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Mean, he is known as the light Bringer, you know,
Speaker 1: all right, so man, would he.
Speaker 2: Tell you all this? You know, it's like favor almost.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So then so then we came back. We went back.
Speaker 3: The next thing, I know, I'm back in this like
Speaker 3: through the portal in the same place where I met him.
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, I need to get out of here,
Speaker 3: and I'm like trying to fly around trying to find
Speaker 3: a way out. And that's when I couldn't get out,
Speaker 3: and I thought it was stuck there. And that's when
Speaker 3: I started like trying to open my eyes on the couch.
Speaker 3: I was back into my body and I was like
Speaker 3: having this heart attack, and every time I closed my eyes,
Speaker 3: I was back there. But then all of the creatures
Speaker 3: that were there. They were like they were like closing
Speaker 3: in on me, and they were just like closing in
Speaker 3: on me, and I was like, oh shit, and I
Speaker 3: was like getting scarier and scarier, and I really thought
Speaker 3: they were coming to kill me. And like I thought
Speaker 3: I was having this heart attack and I'm leaving my body.
Speaker 3: It was intense. What saved me was my phone rang.
Speaker 3: My phone rang, and my girlfriend called me and I
Speaker 3: answered it. I was somehow able to answer it during
Speaker 3: the mushroom trip, and it like broke the whole thing.
Speaker 3: And I explained to her what I was trying to
Speaker 3: explain to what was happening. And she was laughing, because
Speaker 3: you know, what does that sound like to somebody on
Speaker 3: the other end. You know. And she's an artist and
Speaker 3: she draws like light language and stuff, and she does
Speaker 3: all this artwork and she's like, here, look at one
Speaker 3: of these. Look at one of my paintings. And I
Speaker 3: looked at one of them. She sent it to me
Speaker 3: via text, and I looked at one of them and
Speaker 3: I could see like this amazing like coding and and
Speaker 3: this like it was almost like her painting itself was
Speaker 3: this portal to another dimension or something. And as soon
Speaker 3: as I did that. It pulled me. It just like
Speaker 3: pulled me right out of the hell. I'm up into
Speaker 3: this higher like heavenly realm wow. And then it was
Speaker 3: and then she was like, well look, and then I
Speaker 3: was like decoding her artwork that she was like channeling.
Speaker 3: She didn't even know what it was, and I was
Speaker 3: like telling her what I was seeing in each piece,
Speaker 3: and it was like this whole beautiful thing, and uh,
Speaker 3: that's how it pulled me out of it. And there's
Speaker 3: so much more to this. I'll be here all night.
Speaker 3: I can keep telling you the whole thing if you want, But.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we're here for it, dude. This sounds awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a lot to remember. It was a
Speaker 3: lot easier to put down when I was writing.
Speaker 1: It's actually pretty damn amazing that you're able to recall
Speaker 1: that much of it, because I feel like every time
Speaker 1: I trip, I can remember bits and pieces of it,
Speaker 1: but I can't remember seeing after seeing after scene like that,
Speaker 1: Like that is pretty good retention there, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was tripping for twelve hours. Oh dude.
Speaker 3: I took so many I took so much, like.
Speaker 2: How many grams? Real quick? Not to cut you off.
Speaker 2: But how many grams do you think it was?
Speaker 3: I don't know, five or six grams? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, normally I know that. They they
Speaker 1: say that if you if you're trying to do like
Speaker 1: a good normal trip, is normally a quarter of an
Speaker 1: ounce or is it a quarter or an eighth? I'm sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a you take an eighth, which is three and
Speaker 1: a half grams, and like if you're trying to really
Speaker 1: blast off, then you go seven, right or six or
Speaker 1: seven somewhere in there.
Speaker 3: It might have been seven, six or seven, like I
Speaker 3: actually don't know. I didn't weigh it. I just had
Speaker 3: this bag, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And everybody's different how how everybody reacts. Like I
Speaker 1: tripped with one of my buddies where I took we
Speaker 1: we have our favorite psychedelic of choice is called for
Speaker 1: a c O d MT and and it's basically a
Speaker 1: mix of mushrooms and d MT. Right, It's it's very
Speaker 1: similar effects if those two met and just like had
Speaker 1: a baby where but it only lasts for three and
Speaker 1: a half hours, which I love because I can't stand
Speaker 1: no seven or eight hour trip. That's two damn long.
Speaker 1: It's like who wants to have sex for eight hours?
Speaker 1: You know, sex is all for a couple, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But eight hours?
Speaker 1: Come on, give me a break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what was so intense about it, because
Speaker 3: it was so long and it was exhausting and I
Speaker 3: couldn't get out of it, and like a phone call
Speaker 3: with my girlfriend was like helping bring me up to
Speaker 3: these realms with them. We hung up and it didn't stop,
Speaker 3: like it was just I was just in it right,
Speaker 3: and that I found myself literally floating above like in space,
Speaker 3: like I was above the planet, Like that's what it
Speaker 3: was like to me, and I was tapping in. I
Speaker 3: felt like I could ask anything, like I was in
Speaker 3: the Ecostric records or something. I could just ask any
Speaker 3: question and have it answered like I just had at
Speaker 3: all information at my fingertips, is what it felt like.
Speaker 3: So I'm big into like researching the Secret Space Program
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 3: show show me if the Secret Space Program is real,
Speaker 3: Like is that bullshit or is it real? I want
Speaker 3: to know? And then I just saw the Earth being
Speaker 3: encompassed by this black cloud and they said the word
Speaker 3: cancer and I was like what's that And they said,
Speaker 3: anything birth in secrecy is not of the light. It's
Speaker 3: a cancer to the planet. It doesn't matter if it
Speaker 3: advanced technology. Who's you know what they think they're doing,
Speaker 3: Like this has become a cancer to not just a plant,
Speaker 3: but the solar system. You know, all these black budget
Speaker 3: programs and everything that they're doing that they've been covering up.
Speaker 3: It's it's apparently it's acting like a cancer to Mother Nature,
Speaker 3: who is just trying to be this whole organic, loving
Speaker 3: being and she's being like raped and harvested of oil
Speaker 3: and all stuff whatever. So I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: didn't really get the answer I wanted, but that's what
Speaker 3: they showed me. I was like, oh, I guess it's
Speaker 3: real if they're saying it's a cancer. And then I
Speaker 3: was like, is there life on Venus? Just just stupid shit,
Speaker 3: you know? And then I saw Venus and then it
Speaker 3: was zooming in on the planet Venus, and then it
Speaker 3: just disappeared. And they said whatever they whoever I was
Speaker 3: talking to, they said, what you believe, you create if
Speaker 3: you believe there's life on Venus, there's life on Venus Venus.
Speaker 3: And then and I said, why it disappears. So Venus
Speaker 3: only exists because you and the collective of the planet
Speaker 3: believe it exists. You create it. Like it got real
Speaker 3: like philosophical, like esoteric, like it started getting real deep,
Speaker 3: you know. And I'm like, okay, so we create a reality,
Speaker 3: right whatever, And it was just it was just more
Speaker 3: I forgot there's other stuff. But the big thing was
Speaker 3: I I ended up. I found myself in like this
Speaker 3: realm that felt like heaven, like this like was its
Speaker 3: just nothing but white light and empty. And it was
Speaker 3: actually a really lonely place. It was beautiful, but it
Speaker 3: was empty almost like like people not many souls come
Speaker 3: up there. Not many souls like play up there, like
Speaker 3: like people can go on these trips and have these experiences,
Speaker 3: but they haven't like returned the source yet. So I'm
Speaker 3: like looking around, like what is this place? It's like
Speaker 3: this void. And then I hear this little boy. I
Speaker 3: hear it kid crying, crying, and I look look over
Speaker 3: and this little boy laying in the fetal position and
Speaker 3: he's crying. He's just bawling his eyes out, and I
Speaker 3: run over to him. I get on my knees. I'm
Speaker 3: like I'm like okay, by you okay, and and and
Speaker 3: he's like he's just crying, crying, so I like pick
Speaker 3: him up and I'm like holding on. I'm like it's okay,
Speaker 3: it's okay, whatever, Just trying to comfort the little kid.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what's wrong, buddy, what's wrong? And
Speaker 3: he said, everyone's always asking me for forgiveness, but they're
Speaker 3: not forgiving me for what I created, and meaning like
Speaker 3: the universe, like I was talking to God almost but
Speaker 3: but what but what I was like, it was profound.
Speaker 3: I knew right away what he meant. It's like everyone's
Speaker 3: asking me for forgiveness, but they're not forgiving me for
Speaker 3: what I created. This wasn't what I meant to create. This,
Speaker 3: this this darkness wasn't supposed to be. And uh, I say,
Speaker 3: it's okay. You didn't know. You couldn't have known, Like
Speaker 3: like I understand. He's like, really you forgive me. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course I forgive you. And it was just like
Speaker 3: it was pure love, you know, And like next thing
Speaker 3: I know, I was like in his eyes looking at
Speaker 3: me and like we switched places and then we just
Speaker 3: like both turned into light bodies and turned into one
Speaker 3: like ball of light and that's when I realized, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm God, Like we're all God. God's within all of us,
Speaker 3: and like maybe that was my inner child or whatever
Speaker 3: it was. But I literally never can considered their thought
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, everybody's like God, please forgive me, please
Speaker 3: forgive me, but no one's like doing like forgiving themselves
Speaker 3: for what they created. If God's all part of us, right.
Speaker 1: That's actually fucking brilliant to even think about it like that.
Speaker 1: That is mindfuling, really.
Speaker 3: Dude, it wasn't It was intense. Yeah, So and then
Speaker 3: we like turned into this ball of light and then
Speaker 3: we started having this conversation with I just felt like
Speaker 3: source itself, Like it was just this conversation that I
Speaker 3: was having, like it was me but not I don't
Speaker 3: know how to even put it in the words. And
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, these millions of like AI
Speaker 3: nano tech, like nano bots or whatever came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: If you ever seen the matrix at the end the
Speaker 3: third one, like that, all that nano tech creates the
Speaker 3: face and the machine city and starts talking. It was
Speaker 3: like that, and they created This is gonna sound funny,
Speaker 3: but they like they were all showing up like that
Speaker 3: and swarms like millions of them, and they were creating
Speaker 3: these little like wheelbarrows and shovels and they were coming
Speaker 3: up and like scooping up the light and like taking it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, they're trying to date to
Speaker 3: mine the information. And then I'm getting right now and
Speaker 3: I was like is I said, you see? This? Is
Speaker 3: that okay? And they're like oh, like almost like swadden
Speaker 3: like flies, like they think they're striking gold right now,
Speaker 3: but they can't do anything with this information. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean And they said, because they can
Speaker 3: never be you. They can because they can never beat you.
Speaker 3: And they said, that's all AI wants to do is
Speaker 3: become human. Think about AI. What it's like, everything that
Speaker 3: we're doing with AI is to replicate what we can
Speaker 3: already do an unlocked human and it's true potential that
Speaker 3: isn't suppressed can can do. And that's what AI is
Speaker 3: trying to is trying to be us because we are
Speaker 3: the manifestors, we are the creators. And it's almost jealous
Speaker 3: in the way, but it was like, yeah, no matter
Speaker 3: how hard it tries, it can never be you. And
Speaker 3: you know that's the whole trick and that's when we
Speaker 3: learn that, then I guess you don't have to be
Speaker 3: afraid of AI.
Speaker 5: Yeah, awesome experienced.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you shared that. That was awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really good, dude. That just gets me
Speaker 1: so excited for tomorrow show.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit nervous now, you know I went
Speaker 2: the other way.
Speaker 1: No, But what I was saying is is that you know,
Speaker 1: everybody has different levels of tolerance. You know, where I
Speaker 1: took like half the amount, Like, so they come in
Speaker 1: like little tablet forms for the four aco right, and
Speaker 1: and so my first time ever doing it, I only
Speaker 1: took half a tablet and me and one of my
Speaker 1: friends we blasted off and it was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: so crazy. We were like, holy shit, we were I
Speaker 1: think we were like twenty minutes into it. And I
Speaker 1: looked over at her and I was like, I already
Speaker 1: can't wait until we do this again. Like it was
Speaker 1: that good. Right, And because you're seeing just the most
Speaker 1: geometric perfect home that you've ever could even imagine, Right,
Speaker 1: It's like you feel like you're seeing it for the
Speaker 1: first time, but the vibe of the vibe of it
Speaker 1: feels very familiar and and so, but then I tried
Speaker 1: doing it with my my co host, Jacob, and he
Speaker 1: has such a crazy tolerance for literally everything that he does,
Speaker 1: and I gave him a whole one thing. Didn't experience anything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how are you not just going to altered
Speaker 1: in dimensions right now?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: It's so strange different?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man right, I mean.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, there there was more. There's a little
Speaker 3: more that happened after that. But I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is it's not really YouTube friendly, So I don't
Speaker 3: know how much I can say.
Speaker 1: Or anything on YouTube yet, So let's test it.
Speaker 3: It has it has to do with with the jab
Speaker 3: I asked. I was like, after that went away, I
Speaker 3: walked outside and I and I sat in my front
Speaker 3: yard in this chair and I was looking at the
Speaker 3: stars with this whole new perspective on the universe. Oh.
Speaker 3: Another thing that happened too is I was shown the
Speaker 3: birth of a universe and I do it. It got
Speaker 3: even crazier. I forgot about that part. So after that,
Speaker 3: after that, that's what that's what this thing that AI
Speaker 3: was trying to date to mine, just this universe being born.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that part.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so they showed me like the mechanics of it,
Speaker 3: and it was like basically like a womb. It wasn't
Speaker 3: like it was like a womb, and it was like
Speaker 3: this whole birth thing. It was super beautiful and it
Speaker 3: was like so complex but so simple. I remember just
Speaker 3: being in awe of what I was seeing and there's
Speaker 3: really no way to put it into words, honestly. Uh,
Speaker 3: But then I got then we like I saw the
Speaker 3: birth of one universe and it reminded me of the
Speaker 3: scene on Men and Black when they're in the marble,
Speaker 3: and like it was like it's just like you don't
Speaker 3: realize how tiny everything is. Yeah, Well we zoomed out
Speaker 3: from that and I saw like literally like an infinite
Speaker 3: field of universes and like with all each one had
Speaker 3: their own like creator almost in a sense, Like the
Speaker 3: impression I got is that each one of us, like
Speaker 3: if we once we returned the source or whatever, you
Speaker 3: have the option to be your own creator of your
Speaker 3: own universe. It was like this weird thing. I was like,
Speaker 3: this is so on anything I can even comprehend right now.
Speaker 3: It sounds so much more fun, right, So that's what
Speaker 3: I That's why I was shown that I was just
Speaker 3: like that. And then I think at that point I
Speaker 3: started almost like like it got too much for me.
Speaker 3: And that's when I was I came back into my body.
Speaker 3: Whenever I saw that, I was just like, I know,
Speaker 3: fucking nothing like I like. And then I came back
Speaker 3: into my body. And then uh, I went out. I
Speaker 3: went outside, and I was just looking up at the
Speaker 3: stars and it was like a whole new place. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the hell, where where are we? You know? What
Speaker 3: is earth? What is all this stuff? And my girlfriend,
Speaker 3: her son, he got autism or some form of it
Speaker 3: whenever he had his immunization schedule whenever he was young,
Speaker 3: and he was fine, born, fine, and then he suddenly
Speaker 3: got autism. And and I and I looked into I said,
Speaker 3: just show me, like, is what's what's this doing the people?
Speaker 3: And I saw the model of a human body, like
Speaker 3: the typical guy standing there, you know, And but it
Speaker 3: was gears. It was like a machine. It was showing
Speaker 3: me gears. This was like the analogy with oil. It
Speaker 3: was showing me that gears with oil. And it was
Speaker 3: like this well oiled machine that was just only knew
Speaker 3: how to do one thing and keep itself alive and
Speaker 3: keep itself healthy. And then whenever this foreign ingredient was,
Speaker 3: it showed me like a foreign ingredient being introduced into
Speaker 3: the oil stream. And what happened was the oil started
Speaker 3: clumping up in the in the gears and until it
Speaker 3: got jammed up in one of the gears, and then
Speaker 3: one of the wheels broke on the gear, and then
Speaker 3: the whole, the whole system, like it was like became
Speaker 3: a systematic like destruction of the system, right, And basically
Speaker 3: that's that's the analogy I was shown of whatever whatever
Speaker 3: was introduced into her son's body, that's what it did
Speaker 3: to it. Like it was, it was basically acted like
Speaker 3: a poison. It wasn't compatible with the human body, yet
Speaker 3: they were still giving it to him. And it was
Speaker 3: just like I was like, is that the same thing
Speaker 3: happening with like other jabs, you know? And pretty much
Speaker 3: the answer that I got was yeah, you know, it.
Speaker 1: Does make a whole lot of sense, dude. I mean
Speaker 1: you you really think about it, like you look at
Speaker 1: like a deer out in nature. How many you know,
Speaker 1: inoculations did it need to survive and run for the
Speaker 1: woods like a rabbit, a mouse, a dog. I mean,
Speaker 1: we vaccinate our dogs unfortunately, but like you.
Speaker 3: Don't have a choice me too, Like they don't even
Speaker 3: let you like have the dog legal or take it
Speaker 3: to a vet if it's not.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a dog, you know. But like you
Speaker 1: think about literally any other piece of nature does not
Speaker 1: require a foreign substance at birth in order to survive.
Speaker 1: And you know, I actually I didn't give my son
Speaker 1: my son's three I gave him none of those, not
Speaker 1: a single one. Well no, I gave him the vitamin
Speaker 1: K one only because they were like, well, it's gonna
Speaker 1: help with stopping bleeding if he decides, you know, because
Speaker 1: their blood's not thick enough, I guess to stop the working.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's the story I was told. Yeah,
Speaker 1: none other He's as healthy as a fucking whorse dude. Like,
Speaker 1: and I mean, he gets sick just like everybody else.
Speaker 1: We all got immune systems to build up and everything.
Speaker 1: But it's never like death, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it's never anything crazy knock on wood. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I have one hundred percent believe that. And
Speaker 1: we actually it was a few I want to say,
Speaker 1: it was like last year. Have you ever spoke with uh,
Speaker 1: Lindsey Sharmon from the Roaguways podcast.
Speaker 3: No, actually, I don't know if I'm familiar with her.
Speaker 1: Dude, you gotta have her on your show. She's amazing
Speaker 1: and she's been doing her show longer than I've even
Speaker 1: don I've been doing my Cult of Conspiracy even She
Speaker 1: was one of the first podcasts I ever listened to,
Speaker 1: and just such an absolute wealth of information. But she
Speaker 1: said that she's friends with these people that host like
Speaker 1: these parasite conventions and whatnot. Right, And I guess there
Speaker 1: was a cancer doctor that came in and just sat
Speaker 1: in on one of the conventions just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1: And the parasite I guess doctor or whatever is up
Speaker 1: on stage and he's showing that it's all zoomed in
Speaker 1: and this is this is the tumor, and this is
Speaker 1: the mass, and this is the parasite, and it's showing
Speaker 1: all these things. And the cancer doctor goes in there
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, yeah, that's that's cancer. And the
Speaker 1: parasite doctor looks at him and goes, oh, it's your
Speaker 1: first time, because the same exact thing is basically what
Speaker 1: he was trying to say. The parasites are cancer, cancer
Speaker 1: cancer is parasites, and so she has talked ad nauseum
Speaker 1: about all the different things that you can do to
Speaker 1: like de parasite your body, and you know, and and
Speaker 1: all the amazing things that you need to do to
Speaker 1: get your body back to normal, like normal working gears,
Speaker 1: you know, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I've explored many parasite cleanses after that trip,
Speaker 3: and I've done many, and I've learned a lot. And
Speaker 3: it's a whole like I've helped people with protocols and stuff,
Speaker 3: and there's ways to do it, ways not to do it.
Speaker 3: One of my friends who taught me a lot, she's
Speaker 3: been basically deplatformed on every on every social media platform
Speaker 3: out there because she's she was not only helping people
Speaker 3: cure cancer, but reverse Alzheimer's. I mean a number of
Speaker 3: things that we're just told are uncurable. She was helped.
Speaker 3: Like she she was a firm believer that virtually everything
Speaker 3: and she was set anything doesn't matter what it is,
Speaker 3: can be can be cured or reversed with the proper
Speaker 3: parasite clans if you catch it on time.
Speaker 1: You know that too, Yeah, And it's something so crazy
Speaker 1: because you think about it, like so, for example, I
Speaker 1: did a parasite cleanse a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: it was like a like a two week program where
Speaker 1: I was just dropping these drops into my drink four
Speaker 1: times a day and it was over the course of
Speaker 1: two weeks.
Speaker 3: Right, the clean dioxide at MMS, is that what you
Speaker 3: were doing.
Speaker 1: This one's called paraguard, I think, yeah, paraguard, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: And so you take that with a binder and that helps,
Speaker 1: like you know, first of all, like kill all the
Speaker 1: parasites and then helps it like take out all the
Speaker 1: remains and all that shit, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the die off symptoms could actually be worse
Speaker 3: than the parasites itself, and people get really sick if
Speaker 3: they don't clear out the dieoff. And that's why you
Speaker 3: need the binder. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that poison's just laying in you at that point.
Speaker 1: And dude, I did that and I was like after
Speaker 1: a while, I was like, it's so crazy. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a carb whore, dude, Like all day, give me all
Speaker 1: the carbs. I love Italian food, Give me the pasta,
Speaker 1: I want the breadsticks, I want some cow zones. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I didn't I wasn't even craving
Speaker 1: any of that shit after that parasite cleanse, which is
Speaker 1: so crazy because I'm like, oh my god, it wasn't
Speaker 1: even my hunger pangs that was asking for the for
Speaker 1: those carbs and that pizza and that bread and all
Speaker 1: that shit.
Speaker 2: Right, you're mind control, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And dude, that's exactly what it is. It's the
Speaker 3: parasites that are hungry, that they're ones that crave the
Speaker 3: sugar or whatever it is that you crave. And once
Speaker 3: you if you do a cleans and you get so
Speaker 3: far into it, you realize like you're not You just
Speaker 3: suddenly like you don't even intentionally try to do it,
Speaker 3: you just realize you're not going for that food anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying. And then it's just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't crave ice cream last night or
Speaker 3: whatever it was, you know, because it goes away. And
Speaker 3: then there's a whole thing with the with the protocol too.
Speaker 3: So she recommends like this twenty one day cleanse, especially
Speaker 3: if it's your first time with this, like MMS Clearing
Speaker 3: dioxide protocol with you have to paralyze the parasite, then
Speaker 3: you have to you know, then kill it. Then you
Speaker 3: have to clear it out with the binder, and it's
Speaker 3: like this whole thing, this diet whatever. But she she
Speaker 3: helps people and she noticed statistically around day seven, six,
Speaker 3: seven or eight, around day seven, everybody thought most people thought, oh,
Speaker 3: this just cleanse isn't working or I've done it long enough,
Speaker 3: and they just stopped. And she realized that it wasn't
Speaker 3: It was literally the parasites tricking the people in to
Speaker 3: thinking that the cleanse wasn't working to get them to
Speaker 3: stop taking it around day seven and you get past
Speaker 3: that threshold, that's when people started seeing real results. So
Speaker 3: you got to like get into it and build up
Speaker 3: and then and overcome that that because I had the
Speaker 3: same thing happening, Like you just think, you know this,
Speaker 3: I feel good, I'm feeling good. I think I've done
Speaker 3: this long enough, or you think it's not this isn't
Speaker 3: doing anything. Whatever. Something thought comes into your head to
Speaker 3: make you put it down, or you'll like forget about
Speaker 3: it that day or something, and then the next day
Speaker 3: you'll forget, like but it's always around day seven. And
Speaker 3: she came to the conclusion that this is like literally
Speaker 3: the parasites like tricking your mind and you're thinking that
Speaker 3: you don't need to keep doing it.
Speaker 1: Dude, How crazy is it that a fucking pinworm or
Speaker 1: a hookworm or any kind of parasite or anything could
Speaker 1: send your mind thoughts and make you think that it's
Speaker 1: your own.
Speaker 2: Like, just that.
Speaker 1: Alone is mind blowing, you know, and it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that that's probably that same way
Speaker 1: with a lot of things. It's probably the same way
Speaker 1: with alcohol. It's probably that same way with just about
Speaker 1: every addiction, right, maybe even sex.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, yeah, it's a whole it's a whole conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But if you've ever seen the show Stargate SG one,
Speaker 3: it's about basically the gout, goul or go whatever. It's
Speaker 3: this parasite. It's this et race that like literally lives
Speaker 3: with this parasite inside of them all the time and
Speaker 3: that's how they survive. But that parasite, if it ever
Speaker 3: enters a human in the show, it takes over their mind.
Speaker 3: And I think that and I think that's disclosure of
Speaker 3: how parasites like, every time they would enter a human
Speaker 3: in the show, it would literally take over their mind
Speaker 3: and they would start doing things they wouldn't ordinarily do.
Speaker 3: And I'm just like Oh my god, that's kind of
Speaker 3: this is disclosure, you know.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: So just in your experience with you know, the cleanses
Speaker 5: and all of that, Let's say you do the twenty
Speaker 5: one day cleanse, and let's say you lay off of
Speaker 5: pork and maybe some of the other things that are
Speaker 5: known to be just very high in parasites. How often
Speaker 5: would you then still have to do those cleanses going forward.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a great question. So the twenty one
Speaker 3: day cleans the first time I did it was intense
Speaker 3: because I had parasites and it was so bad. It
Speaker 3: was like having dreams where I was seeing this sign.
Speaker 3: It was like parasite detected and uh. And so I
Speaker 3: knew like in the universe, like you know, synchronicities or whatever,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, like people would recommend me these
Speaker 3: parasite cleanses or watch this interview. So I knew, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: somebody's trying to tell me something I did. This cleansing
Speaker 3: was real intense for me because I had some parasites
Speaker 3: I didn't realize, you know, after that. It depends like
Speaker 3: the person I was working with, she recommended doing three
Speaker 3: a year. But after the long twenty one day one,
Speaker 3: like it depends on how like dedicated you are. But
Speaker 3: she then after that you can do like seven day
Speaker 3: cleanses or shorter cleanses once every whenever you get yourself
Speaker 3: cleaned up, you can you can really feel into how
Speaker 3: your body responds to it. And even if you feel
Speaker 3: like you're getting sick or just something's off or you
Speaker 3: got back from it, like you just traveled abroad overseas
Speaker 3: or whatever, just do you can do like a quick
Speaker 3: seven day hit or something, and uh, and you can
Speaker 3: you can really feel yourself, you know, come back into alignment.
Speaker 1: Once you get that first big one out the way, though,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, Like my whenever I did that two
Speaker 1: week cleanse, I feel like maybe I should have gone
Speaker 1: longer because I think that actually the parguard one, I
Speaker 1: believe it actually calls for thirty days or something like that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I just I forgot about.
Speaker 3: It one day, right. She recommends it, and it is
Speaker 3: this is intense, And I don't recommend this because your
Speaker 3: body might not respond well depending on how long you've
Speaker 3: been living with parasites, because it can really it can
Speaker 3: really mess with your mind when you're trying to detox
Speaker 3: the stuff and clear clear it out, and like it
Speaker 3: can be almost like an awakening, you know, for somebody
Speaker 3: who's infested. And and so she recommends like a twenty
Speaker 3: so starting on the full moon because somehow the full moon,
Speaker 3: like the parasites come out to feed in the full moon.
Speaker 3: This is where you get into like the whole esoteric
Speaker 3: side of it. But they come out to feed in
Speaker 3: the full moon. So you always want to like start
Speaker 3: the cleanse on the full moon. And they do twenty
Speaker 3: one days, and she recommends like doing three of those
Speaker 3: in a row, which I've never done that, but like
Speaker 3: like take a couple of days, like take a week
Speaker 3: off after your first cleanse, and then like and then
Speaker 3: start in the next full moon or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: However it works, and and she was like that that
Speaker 3: will get them for good. But I think that could
Speaker 3: actually be detrimental to somebody's health if they're not used
Speaker 3: to it, because parasite cleanses can be intense. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of gross details that we don't have
Speaker 3: to talk about in the air, but things come out
Speaker 3: of your body, and you got to make.
Speaker 1: Sure you're giving you're giving your body back the prebiotics
Speaker 1: and probiotics and all.
Speaker 3: That stuff too, right, yes, yes, so if you're a
Speaker 3: pro and you know what you're doing, and maybe you
Speaker 3: can do it, but nobody is a pro parasy cleanses
Speaker 3: because no one's taught this.
Speaker 5: Shit, you know, right, Yeah, I'd be interested in at
Speaker 5: least doing like the twenty one day or the thirty
Speaker 5: day whatever it is, just to just to see, just
Speaker 5: out of my own curiosity, just for science, almost just
Speaker 5: to see if I can even notice a difference.
Speaker 3: The one thing I will say that I noticed fundamentally
Speaker 3: that I could not argue or deny was my brain
Speaker 3: fog was gone. Like like I experienced almost as if
Speaker 3: you just experienced a spike in your IQ, like like
Speaker 3: jump in your IQ. It me now, I'm serious. It's
Speaker 3: almost like you can like I read books all the time,
Speaker 3: but and but when you have that brain fog, you
Speaker 3: can't always recall stuff you find. You know, sometimes you
Speaker 3: can't find the words, complete your sentences or whatever. It's
Speaker 3: like all that comes back and you're like recalling facts
Speaker 3: that you read from books, and it's like you're functioning
Speaker 3: how you should be functioning without something interfering with your system. Right, Wow, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's great. That's great, man, Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: That's and it's so crazy because in other cultures it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty common, like especially like in other countries. So
Speaker 1: my son's mom is Brazilian, like she was born and
Speaker 1: raised in Brazil, right, and over there they do like
Speaker 1: de wormers and parasite cleanses like every couple of months.
Speaker 1: It is just a normal thing that everybody does. And
Speaker 1: now some people from the United States, well, well that's
Speaker 1: because that's a third world country and they don't have
Speaker 1: clean this, they don't have clean that. But it's like no,
Speaker 1: every like do you look at McDonald's and say, wow,
Speaker 1: that is really good quality. You know, that's quality. You're
Speaker 1: not going to get any sickness or anything from that.
Speaker 1: We have that shit over here. It's just masked as
Speaker 1: you know, like right, I don't know, masked as something.
Speaker 3: In fact, we I would argue that we have it
Speaker 3: worse over here because I've traveled to other countries and
Speaker 3: it's not it's actually not as bad. The food's better
Speaker 3: for you, like, and there's this whole I'm sure you
Speaker 3: guys have seen the videos, like people that travel people
Speaker 3: that travel to the United States from like Australia or
Speaker 3: Europe or whatever, they just start gaining weight. They eat
Speaker 3: the same food, but they just start gaining weight over here,
Speaker 3: and like people do videos about and then you compare
Speaker 3: the Hines ketchup in Europe compared to the Heines ketch
Speaker 3: up here, and there's like like twenty more ingredients in
Speaker 3: the United States. And it's so basically and you have
Speaker 3: the cam trails, and you have the water, and you
Speaker 3: have the whatever's in the food, and then the preservatives,
Speaker 3: and then like your the frequency towers in the world.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're literally bombarded from all angles. So I
Speaker 3: mean you gotta do something over here. I would say
Speaker 3: that we need to do it more than the other countries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. That's actually a really good idea too.
Speaker 1: And and just out of curiosity, So do you since
Speaker 1: that trip, have you? Do you not eat pork at all?
Speaker 3: No? Sometimes I'll have bacon. It's very rare. I don't go.
Speaker 3: I stay away from it as much as possible.
Speaker 2: But I'm not telling to do the devils just starts
Speaker 2: dancing just a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yea, No, man, I mean, like I don't live in
Speaker 3: fear about it. Like who doesn't love a piece of
Speaker 3: bacon or bacon cheeseburg or whatever. Like some I'll do it,
Speaker 3: you know, but I don't do it all the time,
Speaker 3: especially pork. That's the one thing I was just so
Speaker 3: strongly guided in that moment, and I looked into it,
Speaker 3: and pork is like the number one meet known to
Speaker 3: be have the most likely chance to have parasites. And
Speaker 3: in particular, there's this hookworm and the pork that that
Speaker 3: does give like affect your neurologically, and it can literally
Speaker 3: make you dumb, like I mean in a nutshell.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, if you're in that fog, dude, you can't
Speaker 5: even think of words that you know, you know, And
Speaker 5: it's like that's one of the most frustrating things when
Speaker 5: you talk for a living, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's funny that we're even having this conversation.
Speaker 3: And I'm taking this as a sign because I've been
Speaker 3: feeling like I've been needing to do another cleans with
Speaker 3: my girlfriends doing this doing the cleanse now, and it's
Speaker 3: been like knocking at my door in the past couple
Speaker 3: of days. I've been avoiding it, and like, I know,
Speaker 3: I better start that cleanse today, but I didn't. And
Speaker 3: then now we're talking about this.
Speaker 5: So the confirmation of what you already knew, dude, And
Speaker 5: I think that's this whole spiritual journey. There's so many
Speaker 5: things that we already know, you know, and it's just
Speaker 5: like we're looking outside. We're trying to figure out if
Speaker 5: someone else can tell us what we already know. And
Speaker 5: it's funny because, as you're saying, it's kind of a sign.
Speaker 5: Just today, one of my co workers, I work side
Speaker 5: by side with him all day long, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 5: you know, because we talked about his wife making tamalies.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like, I gotta get some tamalies. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: my wife makes some of whatever. Just give me some money,
Speaker 5: she'll get the stuff. She'll make them for you. What
Speaker 5: do you want pork or chicken? And I was like,
Speaker 5: let's do pork. And then here you are, dude, telling
Speaker 5: me this story about the devil like dancing, because that's
Speaker 5: what that's what makes it work, Dude.
Speaker 3: Like I said, don't live in don't live in fear
Speaker 3: about it. Eat the tomales. Dude, cleans after it, you know,
Speaker 3: like it Like.
Speaker 2: Well, I might just switch it up the chicken.
Speaker 5: I haven't given him the money yet, okay.
Speaker 1: And there are different like there are other cultures out
Speaker 1: there that won't eat pork, and you know, and and
Speaker 1: maybe that's for kosher reasons or whatever, but it makes
Speaker 1: you wonder dude. And and it's so crazy too, because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm personally I'm I'm doing the ketogenic diet,
Speaker 1: and like how I survive on keto is by eating
Speaker 1: a shitload of bacon. So I got that turkey bacon, Dude,
Speaker 1: I got to go turkey bacon, I guess is what
Speaker 1: we're going for.
Speaker 3: You know, if you want to get real wild down
Speaker 3: a rabbit hole. If you're familiar with Max Spears, he
Speaker 3: was a whistleblower from the UK. He was killed super soldier.
Speaker 3: But yeah, when he died, he was he threw up
Speaker 3: this black goo. It's this whole weird thing. But he
Speaker 3: was one of the most brilliant minds. Like he's like
Speaker 3: one of those OG disclosure whistleblower guys, you know. And
Speaker 3: and something that came from him And this is just
Speaker 3: a theory, but it's worthy of considering. He said that
Speaker 3: the reason that the pig that we know today that
Speaker 3: we eat is genetically. There's a reason pigs have their
Speaker 3: DNA is quite literally the same as humans. Is because
Speaker 3: they're a hybrid of human and wild boar basically dating
Speaker 3: back to ancient times, they were essentially a genetic experiment,
Speaker 3: is what he says.
Speaker 1: You know what, that's that's actually not that far off too,
Speaker 1: because if you listen to like, uh stories from cannibals,
Speaker 1: and people will ask cannibals, hey, what does a human taste? Like,
Speaker 1: it's always pork every time, right.
Speaker 3: Right, So that's well, that's that's the whole thing. And
Speaker 3: there's even in like the Christian circles and stuff, and
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of Christians that want to eat
Speaker 3: pork and and and because it's known as cannibalism, like
Speaker 3: it's like you're eating a human and it's like the
Speaker 3: ultimate sin, right, so they won't eat pork for that reason.
Speaker 3: And it's like this is a whole thing. Man, you
Speaker 3: want to ruin your day, Like go look up, go
Speaker 3: down this rabbit hole. I don't have to tell you anymore.
Speaker 3: Like you'll find you'll find stuff supporting it, and and
Speaker 3: just leave it at that, you know.
Speaker 1: So I mean and and this is something that you know.
Speaker 1: I've really been looking into here as of late. Over
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, I've been doing have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of the Gershon method?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's green coffee bean, uh, organic organic green
Speaker 1: cop being enemas, and it has like a I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's nobody wants to shove things up their rest.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: But it is extremely, extremely detoxing to your entire body.
Speaker 1: And it's like one of the best ways that you
Speaker 1: can give yourself a detox is by the organic green
Speaker 1: coffee enemas. And I've been doing it, and oh my god,
Speaker 1: I tell my parents because I'm I'm living in their
Speaker 1: guest house, so i always go over there and talk
Speaker 1: to them and stuff, and I'm like, every time I'm done,
Speaker 1: I feel like the literal best, best version of myself.
Speaker 1: You are so clear headed, you're so light, like you
Speaker 1: feel like you could just flap your arms and just
Speaker 1: fucking fly away. Dude, it is crazy.
Speaker 2: You made it the full fifteen minutes yet or you're
Speaker 2: still around three or.
Speaker 1: Four about I'm getting to ten minutes. I can hold
Speaker 1: it in for ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Shit, you getting there?
Speaker 1: It's it's a struggle, you know.
Speaker 3: I have heard of that. I've never tried it, but
Speaker 3: it's just another example, like these are ways to take
Speaker 3: care of our bodies. So I mean you you could
Speaker 3: literally avoid doctors' visits entirely if you do this stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, And then that's what that's the reason they
Speaker 3: don't want you knowing about it, because if we're all healthy,
Speaker 3: like they lose money. You know, it really comes down
Speaker 3: to that, and you get into big pharma and all
Speaker 3: that stuff and the incentives they get for pushing certain
Speaker 3: pills or whatever it is, and like it's this whole system,
Speaker 3: and I don't I'm sure I don't have to explain
Speaker 3: that to you guys, but for your own sake, like
Speaker 3: you can really get your health and order in such
Speaker 3: a way to where if you have anything that's going
Speaker 3: wrong with you, you can start with the parasite clans
Speaker 3: and then if that doesn't do it, then you know,
Speaker 3: if it gets worse, then you might see a doctor.
Speaker 3: But nine times out of ten, you can start to
Speaker 3: heal yourself and cure yourself of whatever it is, even
Speaker 3: earache or something like even a parasite clans might take
Speaker 3: like take care of an earache or some skin condition.
Speaker 3: A lot of times most skin conditions like hives and
Speaker 3: other stuff is stems from a type of parasite, and
Speaker 3: there's just so many things that it's all connected to.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: That's when I get into like saying that someone has
Speaker 5: like autoimmune disease, like they don't really know exactly what's
Speaker 5: going on, but there's something wrong with you, right, And yeah,
Speaker 5: your hives because your skin is trying to tell you, like, hey,
Speaker 5: something's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh you know what. Uh there.
Speaker 1: It's so funny that you mentioned this because I literally
Speaker 1: I just remembered this dream that I had like two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I had thought about it since then,
Speaker 1: but you know, since we're talking about it, I figure,
Speaker 1: let's just get weird, dude. I had this dream that
Speaker 1: there were these little parasites or like little fucking termites
Speaker 1: or something underneath my skin on my face. I have
Speaker 1: like extremely extremely sensitive uh skin on only on my
Speaker 1: face nowhere else, right, Like my skin gets so dry,
Speaker 1: and it almost just reminds me of like the whole
Speaker 1: like the the myth of the ant people right about
Speaker 1: that's why we have all the sand on the earth.
Speaker 1: Because the ants just dug it all up or whatever,
Speaker 1: right right right, And literally I had a dream about
Speaker 1: that that these like little termites or whatever they were
Speaker 1: were digging into my skin and throwing up like dry
Speaker 1: skin on my face and and dude, lo and behold.
Speaker 1: I looked it up the next day and there that's
Speaker 1: actually I don't know if it's it's not termites, but
Speaker 1: it's some kind of parasitic thing that is feeding off
Speaker 1: of the oils of your skin. And they're like tiny
Speaker 1: little mites that are like in your skin almost, And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm gonna have to do something about that,
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm having shit, you.
Speaker 3: Know I do. That's what I'm saying, Like information comes
Speaker 3: from dreams, and I like that's how I even knew
Speaker 3: to do my parasite cleanse, because like it was showing
Speaker 3: up in dreams. Like I believe that there's something to that,
Speaker 3: and you might be experiencing that in your higher self
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. Somehow you're letting yourself know. And
Speaker 3: if you can be in tune with that, like we
Speaker 3: can be our own doctors, right, you know, it's.
Speaker 5: Like when the parasites are sleeping and your brain got
Speaker 5: full control agains.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta do something, man. Oh shit, you
Speaker 2: know they're awake now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Yeah, I mean there's a whole it's a
Speaker 3: whole conversation about health and what we can do and yeah.
Speaker 1: And what's amazing is is that there are so many
Speaker 1: people who are converting to the more holistic stuff. And
Speaker 1: I love and I and I can't get enough of that.
Speaker 1: Like I want to learn about all the holistic health
Speaker 1: stuff that I possibly can, because you know, and and
Speaker 1: that's I'm not dem I'm the last person to say
Speaker 1: that anybody, Like I'm the last person to say that
Speaker 1: everybody that works for a hospital or as a nurse
Speaker 1: or anything like that is bad. I don't believe that
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: I think that's not true really, you know.
Speaker 1: And most of the time, I mean, every time somebody
Speaker 1: goes to nursing school or anything like that, they're doing
Speaker 1: it because they believe that they're doing it out of
Speaker 1: the goodness of their heart, right, and and so you
Speaker 1: know the drug part, obviously, a lot of those drugs
Speaker 1: and even the topical creams are bullshit, right, They're they're
Speaker 1: worse for you than they're even good for It's solving
Speaker 1: a temporary solution, but like you know, if you need
Speaker 1: a scan or if you need a you know, stitches
Speaker 1: or a broken bone or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's then it's great. Yeah, then that's amazing. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But the holistic stuff to where you can repair your
Speaker 1: gut and you can repair your your parasitic problem or
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. Dude, that all natural is
Speaker 1: always the right way. And I really believe that every
Speaker 1: single sickness and ailment that we get, just like you
Speaker 1: said earlier, has to be found in nature. It only
Speaker 1: makes sense, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And so another big one I use is
Speaker 3: a reginal oil which is good for parasites tube and
Speaker 3: not all types of parasites. But this was it came
Speaker 3: through basically a session. I had an I have a
Speaker 3: tree night allergy, right, and I had an allergic reaction.
Speaker 3: And I was at my friend's house and this girl there,
Speaker 3: she's very in tune, intuitive psychic, and I was having
Speaker 3: this reaction. It was bad. I didn't have benadrilla. We
Speaker 3: were far away from anywhere, and she tuned in and
Speaker 3: she was like what could she She has this whole
Speaker 3: cabinet of just all the alternative health stuff. She's like,
Speaker 3: what does Tyler need and she heard the regular oil
Speaker 3: and if she just hurt, so she ran and got
Speaker 3: the reginal oil. She's like, take this, never had it
Speaker 3: in my life, didn't even know what it was. And
Speaker 3: I squeezed it down my throat and I thought it
Speaker 3: was making things worse. But what happened was it was
Speaker 3: expelling everything, all the poison. Like my body was responding
Speaker 3: to her like a poison right. I was expelling the
Speaker 3: toxins out of my body and I was spitting them
Speaker 3: up out of my mouth, and it like pulled everything out,
Speaker 3: and within I would say a few minutes, I was
Speaker 3: back to normal, which would have otherwise been the other
Speaker 3: way and ruined my whole day. And I've been in
Speaker 3: the hospital for it before, I'd blown up in hives,
Speaker 3: and it reversed it. So I started looking in to
Speaker 3: regnar oil and it's like some people call it to
Speaker 3: cure all. And one of the things that's really, really,
Speaker 3: really good at is curing colds or flu symptoms. So
Speaker 3: if you if you at all feel like you're starting
Speaker 3: to get a cold or coming down with something, dude,
Speaker 3: get on that a regnal oil. It is better than
Speaker 3: any over the counter cold medicine you could ever buy.
Speaker 3: I will stand by that, and that's the only cold
Speaker 3: medicine I've used for years now, and it works.
Speaker 1: Dude, you're not so, That's what I'm saying. You're not
Speaker 1: the first person to tell us that too. That's what's
Speaker 1: crazy is that a lot of people are really getting on.
Speaker 2: I think he was probably the first one to tell yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: He was like, Dude, I'm telling you, oil of oregano
Speaker 1: is the go to. That is what And I bought
Speaker 1: like a little a little bottle of it. It's like
Speaker 1: these little capsules, but like little Joe caps or whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, And one thing about the oil of oregano,
Speaker 1: Damn when you burb it is spicy.
Speaker 3: It's nasty. Yeah, But like there's ways to take it.
Speaker 3: There's pills, there's a droppers or whatever, and there's different
Speaker 3: potencies of it. You can research it all, but it works.
Speaker 3: It works, man, Like if you're feeling like shit, it
Speaker 3: definitely can pull you out of it.
Speaker 1: You know, man, That's just what it's all about. Because look,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're feeling bogged down, whether you're you know,
Speaker 1: your your gut is acting up or you got brain fog,
Speaker 1: and you can't really just be the absolute best version
Speaker 1: of yourself, then you're almost doing yourself a disservice because
Speaker 1: all of these things that we are experiencing on a
Speaker 1: daily bit, Like if you're somebody who is an at
Speaker 1: like a legit truth seeker, and like whenever you don't
Speaker 1: even have the energy to do any research, you don't
Speaker 1: even like you can't even find the compassion because you
Speaker 1: feel almost too bogged down and too fogged up and
Speaker 1: all this other shit, right, And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: personally I believe that you know, I'm a conspiracy theorist
Speaker 1: at heart, obviously, but I think that all that shit
Speaker 1: absolutely is done on purpose, right They don't they want
Speaker 1: a bunch of just zombified people who are staying in
Speaker 1: they're nothing box all damn day, right, Like because there's
Speaker 1: no threat to their control, right right.
Speaker 3: I mean you could get into the whole mk ultra
Speaker 3: aspect of this and like frequency warfare and like stuff
Speaker 3: that's just happening to us with the frequency from the
Speaker 3: towers and our phones and the Wi Fi routers and
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. And then and that's a whole
Speaker 3: other component to this that also plays into mind control
Speaker 3: and keeps us feeling that way as well. And that's
Speaker 3: why it's important like have EMF protectors and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's where this journey takes you. Like you
Speaker 3: think you're going to learn about aliens and then you
Speaker 3: end up talking about this stuff, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And it's all connected too, and it's all somehow weirdly connected,
Speaker 3: and you just one thing leads to the next, and
Speaker 3: then you just have to change the way you live
Speaker 3: your life if you want to stay on that path,
Speaker 3: you know, And I agree, Like I do think the
Speaker 3: reason I said the mk Ultra thing is because I
Speaker 3: think that there's it's almost like they can just flip
Speaker 3: a switch and shut you down whenever, like you finally
Speaker 3: want to read that book that you it's going to
Speaker 3: change your life because it has something that you need,
Speaker 3: and you just keep scrolling through Netflix instead because I
Speaker 3: think something is there almost almost like keeping that in place,
Speaker 3: making sure that you don't have that breakthrough. And I've
Speaker 3: experienced this a lot, and that write about in my
Speaker 3: book that anytime someone is about to break programming really
Speaker 3: like actually have this fundamental breakthrough and like like their
Speaker 3: paradigm is going to just shift. You know. I feel
Speaker 3: like somehow somebody is monitoring that or watching it, and
Speaker 3: like they will send in reinforcements to keep you at bay,
Speaker 3: to make sure that you don't have that aha moment
Speaker 3: that's going to take you to the next level or
Speaker 3: whatever it is, right, and you'll you'll go this way
Speaker 3: instead of that way. But this way means staying on
Speaker 3: the hamster wheel.
Speaker 2: You know, right.
Speaker 5: I've actually had experience with, you know, coming to terms
Speaker 5: with something and really understanding it in such a better way.
Speaker 5: It's such a more positive way. And then the very
Speaker 5: next day something will come along and almost test that
Speaker 5: very thing, you know, almost like oh you think you
Speaker 5: you got it, Okay, well let's see, you know, let's
Speaker 5: see if you can handle this. And and it's really cool
Speaker 5: when those when those types of things happen, because you
Speaker 5: can really look at that and see how you handled it,
Speaker 5: how you kind of just rose above the situation rather
Speaker 5: than really getting invested into it and really starting to spiral.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden you're in your head
Speaker 5: and and the dude's not even talking to you no more.
Speaker 5: You've already been home for an hour and you're still like,
Speaker 5: was I wrong or you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And yeah, and you can look back at that and
Speaker 2: go wow.
Speaker 5: Like you really see how far you've come because you know, Dan,
Speaker 5: well five years ago you would have reacted so much differently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get it. You literally develop an entirely
Speaker 3: new baseline for your behavior and and that's a great indicator.
Speaker 3: Once you understand that, then then that's a good step.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's that's big. And then you can Okay,
Speaker 3: this is my baseline. Now, now how can I adjust
Speaker 3: from here?
Speaker 2: You know exactly? Dude?
Speaker 1: It is crazy. Well, look you mentioned aliens earlier, and
Speaker 1: we can't let you leave without that one, you know,
Speaker 1: And this is something that we've kind of been playing
Speaker 1: around with as well, really trying to understand what are aliens,
Speaker 1: where are they coming from? When are they coming from?
Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of different ideologies about what aliens
Speaker 1: actually are and all that everything that is connected to them.
Speaker 1: Do you believe just I mean, and I guess you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need to have an opinion one way or another,
Speaker 1: but just out of curiosity, do you think that aliens
Speaker 1: are coming from another planet? Or is it kind of
Speaker 1: dimension shifting? Is there timeline jumping? Like do you think
Speaker 1: that they're here? Do you you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like do we not have the senses to be able
Speaker 1: to sense that they're always here? What do you think
Speaker 1: is really going on with all that?
Speaker 3: I would I've asked myself all of those questions, you know,
Speaker 3: you have to whenever you start getting into this topic,
Speaker 3: And honestly, is as much as I wanted just one
Speaker 3: single one of them to be true, I've come to
Speaker 3: the conclusion that I think all of the above is
Speaker 3: the safest answer, because there are so many things that
Speaker 3: you would have to discount for just one of those
Speaker 3: to be true. There's there's these experience, the testimonies, there's
Speaker 3: these stories. I mean, there's books, thousands of books. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's years of history, declassified documents that all would indicate
Speaker 3: that it's all happening. It seems to be that there
Speaker 3: are beings that have been visiting us from uh like Venus.
Speaker 3: Like there's a declassified FBI file that says Tesla was
Speaker 3: literally from Venus. It literally says that in the FBI files.
Speaker 3: I swear to God, you can look it up yourself.
Speaker 3: Nicole Tesla literally says he was he was born on Venus. Like,
Speaker 3: that's not even a joke, it's not even a theory.
Speaker 3: That's on the FBI dot gov website. Do you have
Speaker 3: a valiant thor if you ever read Strangers, it's kind
Speaker 3: of God. He allegedly is from Venus and he came
Speaker 3: here to help to work with our government, but they
Speaker 3: didn't they didn't agree. There his turn and it didn't
Speaker 3: work out. Okay, So you have two official, fairly official
Speaker 3: accounts that would indicate that, Okay, we have beings coming
Speaker 3: here from quite literally Venus, another planet as we know it.
Speaker 3: Then there's a whole multi dimensional aspect. Absolutely they're coming
Speaker 3: from other dimensions. There's so many accounts that that obviously
Speaker 3: lean to something like that being true. Have they been
Speaker 3: here the whole time living underground? I think that's also
Speaker 3: a possibility. I think there's groups, there's there's all this
Speaker 3: stuff going around online right now about these under sea
Speaker 3: bases and these alien bases that are under not just
Speaker 3: in the ocean, but under like the ocean crust, like
Speaker 3: beneath the ocean floor.
Speaker 1: Dude, have you ever seen that one where it's like
Speaker 1: right off the coast of California. I want to say
Speaker 1: it's over by Long Beach or San Francisco or something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it's right outside. And ever since people
Speaker 1: started looking into it, Google Maps wouldn't blurt it all
Speaker 1: out right.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, in fact, I was just reading it
Speaker 3: about that today. Actually, I'm reading this book Carrie Cassidy has.
Speaker 3: She just released a two series book called Space War.
Speaker 3: It's basically she interviewed this guy twelve times in prison
Speaker 3: who was involved in the secret the shadow, the secret
Speaker 3: government and the secret space program. As far as what
Speaker 3: he says, and he was talking about that base and
Speaker 3: I was just reading about today and he said, it's
Speaker 3: literally a base that is used for extraterrestrials and humans
Speaker 3: and they'll have meetings there. And apparently just you could
Speaker 3: look this up, Like in the mid two thousands, there
Speaker 3: was this missile that was shot down allegedly, there's a
Speaker 3: story of a missile that was shot down over La.
Speaker 3: He said, it wasn't a missile. It was actually a
Speaker 3: craft leaving that base that was going against whatever treaty
Speaker 3: or orders or whatever the whole protocol was and it
Speaker 3: was shot down. It wasn't a missile shot down but
Speaker 3: that was a cover story anyway. That's what I was
Speaker 3: just reading about today. It's funny you asked that. I mean,
Speaker 3: whether that's true, we just who knows.
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, I'm gonna here, I'm gonna pull it up, dude,
Speaker 1: because me and Jacob did a show on this a
Speaker 1: while back, and uh, it is crazy, dude, Like, look
Speaker 1: at this ship right here, Sean, this is this is
Speaker 1: underwater right off the coast of Malibu. It was Malibu,
Speaker 1: right And does that not like this is supposed to
Speaker 1: be rock and sand? Why are there? Why are there pillars?
Speaker 2: It makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Literally it literally looks like like Stark Tower, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, oh that's interesting.
Speaker 3: So literally, like literally this is how crazy this stuff,
Speaker 3: this information gets. So what this this guy, he's a
Speaker 3: Navy admiral and as a whole story, and I actually
Speaker 3: think he's a credible guy. He said that there was
Speaker 3: quite literally a meeting happening in that base, and one
Speaker 3: of the et groups that was there was angry because
Speaker 3: they basically didn't get their way. I mean, this is
Speaker 3: I'm summarizing this. They were angry about something in this
Speaker 3: meeting and they intentionally broke protocol there was there directly
Speaker 3: ordered to fly to leave that base out towards c
Speaker 3: They intentionally broke protocol because they were pissed at the
Speaker 3: US government whatever happened in that meeting, and they flew
Speaker 3: directly over LA to just show everybody like, hey, we're here,
Speaker 3: like fuck you guys, We're not staying hidden anymore. And
Speaker 3: then we shot them down, Like that's what he says happened.
Speaker 3: If aliens are real and they're working with our government
Speaker 3: and they're not maybe as advanced as we think, it
Speaker 3: just might be a little different than we realize. Stuff
Speaker 3: like that would happen, wouldn't it. I mean, think about
Speaker 3: all the scenarios that you can imagine with just humans,
Speaker 3: and if you have a human like extraterrestrial in there,
Speaker 3: that is that also has a military why why couldn't
Speaker 3: something like that be true? You know, you just have
Speaker 3: to ask yourself those questions. And I just I don't
Speaker 3: know because I can't go there. I can't see all this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't prove it, but.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: And the problem is is that there's so much damn
Speaker 1: disinformation out there, with everybody just chasing clicks and likes
Speaker 1: and all this other shit, you know, and it's hard
Speaker 1: to really sift through what's real and what's not because, dude,
Speaker 1: nowadays you can just go into CHATGBT and say, hey,
Speaker 1: make me a viral story, and it will make you
Speaker 1: the most crazy viral story. Everybody will click on it.
Speaker 1: And I tell you what, it is the most prominent
Speaker 1: on Facebook. That place has become such a cesspool of
Speaker 1: like terrible information. I don't trust nothing that I read
Speaker 1: on Facebook at all.
Speaker 3: This is a really important conversation because that's one hundred
Speaker 3: percent part of the game now, and like every you
Speaker 3: literally don't know what to believe anything you see read it,
Speaker 3: even as convincing as it may sound. Which is why
Speaker 3: as a researcher on this stuff, I actually go to
Speaker 3: the old stuff now. I go to the old stories.
Speaker 3: And this book, even though it was just released, it's
Speaker 3: this guy was imprisoned in nineteen eighty because he was
Speaker 3: wanting to blow the whistle on the project he was
Speaker 3: a part of back then, and he was framed for
Speaker 3: a murder for masterminding a murder that he didn't commit,
Speaker 3: and he went and he got put away, and that
Speaker 3: story has been out there well. Kerry Cassidy ended up
Speaker 3: finding a prison he went to and she's visited him
Speaker 3: and done twelve interviews with him. She has to go
Speaker 3: to the prison and interview this guy who's been locked
Speaker 3: up since nineteen eighty by the way, and he she's
Speaker 3: she's been doing this throughout the early two thousands, right,
Speaker 3: and that's this information comes from him being so that information. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's old. It's what I'm trying to say. It's this, dude,
Speaker 3: isn't like online creating shit. Is like, this is actually
Speaker 3: old information that she finally decided to transcribe and put out.
Speaker 1: He was in jail before the internet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for blowing the whistle on what he said
Speaker 3: is a secret space program basically a program existing outside
Speaker 3: of that said that the public doesn't know about it.
Speaker 1: Dude, And you know what's crazy is is uh I
Speaker 1: was I always like to I always check out all
Speaker 1: of your Instagram, right, like just I love you guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm always I'm always like following you guys and everything.
Speaker 1: And I saw that you guys had on this guy
Speaker 1: named Peter Fuller and that's up with the secret space
Speaker 1: program and shit like that, right.
Speaker 3: Solar Warden, Yeah, he wrote a book, a series called
Speaker 3: solar Warden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, solar Warden, That's what it was. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so we actually I've reached out to him and he's
Speaker 1: gonna be coming on the Cult here soon. I can't
Speaker 1: wait for that conversation. It's gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 1: Anytime you talk secret space anything, I'm like glued in,
Speaker 1: like I want to know what's going on. And look,
Speaker 1: I mean, either these people have the literal best imagination
Speaker 1: you could even imagine, or maybe they're on one, you know,
Speaker 1: because we don't know shit about what's going on up
Speaker 1: in space outside of what they allow us to know,
Speaker 1: you know. And you know, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: just earlier today on the Cult we had if you
Speaker 1: follow him, I mean, he's pretty big for you know
Speaker 1: what we talk about. But his name is Basse Forge.
Speaker 1: You probably know him if you saw him. But he's
Speaker 1: always going into like sacred geometry found in you know,
Speaker 1: pyramids and ancient archaeology and shit like that. Amazing. And
Speaker 1: he what he was saying is is that he was
Speaker 1: talking about the the the ancient pyramids. And he made
Speaker 1: a statement that definitely made me I blew my damn mind.
Speaker 1: I thought that I looked into just about everything there
Speaker 1: is to know about pyramids, and I didn't know shit
Speaker 1: whenever he got on, because whenever he started talking, he
Speaker 1: said that he firmly believes that, you know, so the
Speaker 1: Giza plateau, right, you have the what's that the three
Speaker 1: main pyramids right, and about how they're all connected, like
Speaker 1: pointing directly up at Orion's belt. He believes that those
Speaker 1: He believes that a pyramid is essentially like an emotional
Speaker 1: information consciousiness transfer portal to each one of those stars,
Speaker 1: almost as if that whenever you're in there and you're
Speaker 1: meditating or you're doing psychedelics or something like that, whenever
Speaker 1: you're in there, that it opens up almost like a
Speaker 1: conscious gateway that allows you to receive information directly from
Speaker 1: that star. And he believes that that's why they are
Speaker 1: so perfect, and I'm like, holy shit. And then he
Speaker 1: started going deeper and he was like, this is how
Speaker 1: the old God's transferred consciousness is into into new people.
Speaker 1: Because you hear about Hermes lived how many different incarnations
Speaker 1: and both live, how many different incarnations, all the all
Speaker 1: the old kings and and all that stuff. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: if that's really what the fuck was going on over there,
Speaker 1: and some people just look at them. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: what's so special about the pyramids, It's just a pile
Speaker 1: of rocks.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, there had.
Speaker 5: To be something of super significance to build something like that.
Speaker 5: You know, you don't just build something like that. I
Speaker 5: wouldn't think just to be like, oh, look at that
Speaker 5: we did. It took many many deckades or however long
Speaker 5: it took.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that absolutely. I agree with what
Speaker 3: he says. I think there's their multipurpose, but I think
Speaker 3: that's one of the things. And I was just in
Speaker 3: Egypt this year. I went for the first time. I
Speaker 3: was there for sixteen days and went to the you know,
Speaker 3: King's chamber inside the big pyramid. We went three in
Speaker 3: the morning. Because it's like we got guided to ourselves.
Speaker 3: And it's a whole long story by I got how
Speaker 3: I got this. But a friend of mine gave me
Speaker 3: what this basically a spell that you say out loud.
Speaker 3: She met this shaman in Columbia, down in South America
Speaker 3: who says it he believes like in Peru and all
Speaker 3: these like these false doorways are actually gateways that are
Speaker 3: voice activated, and they're not just a false door, like
Speaker 3: literally they call them false doores in like the Egyptian museums,
Speaker 3: and like Peru they call them false stores. They look
Speaker 3: like a doorway in the stone. Apparently the Shamans believe
Speaker 3: like it's a real gateway, and then we can't figure
Speaker 3: it out because they're literally voice activated with an ancient
Speaker 3: language that nobody uses anymore. And he gave her this
Speaker 3: this phrase that's like key phrase or spell, whatever you
Speaker 3: wanna call. It's not spell. Gave her this phrase that
Speaker 3: worked for him that opened this like portal in Peru,
Speaker 3: and he has this hole. He wrote the whole book
Speaker 3: about it. And he said, but be careful how you
Speaker 3: use this this phrase. This has the ability to move
Speaker 3: tectonic plates, is what he told her. And he was like,
Speaker 3: he's like, don't tell anybody unless you trust them. Well,
Speaker 3: she went into the king's chamber and literally said it
Speaker 3: in the king's chamber and laid in it and claims
Speaker 3: that she saw like this portal opening right and and
Speaker 3: this being like started coming through it and she was
Speaker 3: in there by herself, and people walked into her room
Speaker 3: and like the whole thing stopped. Well, I'm going to Egypt,
Speaker 3: and she I asked her about that, and she sends
Speaker 3: it to me. She would never tell me before. She's like,
Speaker 3: I know you, now, I trust you. She's like, don't
Speaker 3: tell anybody, and don't say it out loud before you
Speaker 3: go in there. So I was like, okay, I won't.
Speaker 3: And I go into the king chamber. I'm with a
Speaker 3: whole group of people. I'm not in there by myself,
Speaker 3: but we're all taking turns laying in like the sarcophagus,
Speaker 3: which was not a sarcophagus was what it was used
Speaker 3: for something else. I lay inside of it and I
Speaker 3: say this thing out loud but quiet, you know, by
Speaker 3: say it out loud, and dude, it felt like a
Speaker 3: DMT hit whenever your body just like which that kind
Speaker 3: of just falls back and you can't move. I started
Speaker 3: leaving my body. It was literally I was gassing off
Speaker 3: out of my body just from saying this phrase in
Speaker 3: the pyramid. And what happened was this woman in the
Speaker 3: who was in the chamber with us for some random reason,
Speaker 3: she started doing this really loud toning, like like like
Speaker 3: singing basically like toning, and it like broke it broke
Speaker 3: the connection and I shot back into my body and
Speaker 3: then I tried to say it again and again I
Speaker 3: couldn't get it back. But she was toning, and I
Speaker 3: think her tone, the frequency of her tone was literally
Speaker 3: interfering with whatever was happening with what I was saying.
Speaker 3: So I didn't get to experience. And maybe it was
Speaker 3: maybe it saved me, I don't know, but it literally
Speaker 3: my body just like melted away. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: Like if you've ever done the hit of d MT,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. You just like starting
Speaker 3: to melt like and that's what happened. But I was
Speaker 3: completely sober, and you weren't.
Speaker 2: You weren't laying there very long.
Speaker 5: I imagine people are probably taking turns, you know, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I got in there. I was one. I made sure
Speaker 3: I was the last person to get in there. Let
Speaker 3: everybody go first. I was the last person. And I
Speaker 3: said it. It's laid down there, and I said it,
Speaker 3: and it happened instantly, and I was like being pulled
Speaker 3: out of my body, like I like literally pulled out,
Speaker 3: like I think I just my body went limp. And
Speaker 3: I was like it was almost like a movie, like
Speaker 3: there's like this time tunnel, like this whole thing right,
Speaker 3: and then she starts toning and it just goes It's
Speaker 3: like whoa, and I just get pulled back and I'm like,
Speaker 3: come back into my body. And then I was actually
Speaker 3: pissed because I was like, holy shit, what was that?
Speaker 3: And I literally said it again and I said it
Speaker 3: again and nothing happened, but she was She never stopped toning,
Speaker 3: and she wouldn't stop toning, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, you're ever gonna stop. And then we had
Speaker 3: by the time she stopped, we had to move on
Speaker 3: because you only have so much time in there.
Speaker 5: I bet you're right though, on you know the fact
Speaker 5: that she probably saved you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: because one of the odds that this woman just decides
Speaker 5: to do this singing randomly. I mean, I guess you
Speaker 5: would if you're in that space. But still, like, it's
Speaker 5: pretty interesting that you know the timing of that as
Speaker 5: you're having this experience and like what you could have experienced, you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and I don't know, man, like who knows?
Speaker 3: Who actually knows? I only wonder. I can only guess.
Speaker 1: You know, that is amazing that you even experienced anything
Speaker 1: just by saying a phrase, and so you're laying down
Speaker 1: in this sarcophagus as you're saying.
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, dude, literally inside.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen this movie called John Carter? Oh yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: So at the end of the movie whenever he's trying
Speaker 1: to go back to Mars, right, and he's laying in
Speaker 1: that sarcophagus in that mortuary or whatever it was. That's dude,
Speaker 1: could it be? And that's one of my favorite movies
Speaker 1: of all time? But I always think, is that a
Speaker 1: way that he's almost transferring his consciousness to another location
Speaker 1: and that sarcophagus would somehow just help him stay alive
Speaker 1: so that he doesn't, you know, cease to exist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost acts like like a portal chamber or
Speaker 3: something like however you want to call it. But I agree,
Speaker 3: I think there's something to that. And we went through
Speaker 3: I forgot they call it like the Seraphiem, like the
Speaker 3: Seraphim or something. It's like this underground network the tunnels
Speaker 3: in Egypt, and not a lot of people know about.
Speaker 3: And they have like room size sarcophagus, like like sarcopha
Speaker 3: guy or whatever you call him, like for actual giants,
Speaker 3: Like that's what it looks like. But they have this
Speaker 3: whole like mainstream story for what they're for or whatever,
Speaker 3: like they're symbolic. I'm like, no, there were actual giant
Speaker 3: beans laying in these things, like you can't tell me
Speaker 3: anything else like and and they're inside there, these massive
Speaker 3: stone granite sarcopha guy and in these small rooms, meaning
Speaker 3: the entire thing was built around them. They can't they
Speaker 3: couldn't have been brought in. They couldn't have been brought
Speaker 3: in or brought out, and it's virtually impossible if you
Speaker 3: see it, and it's like, Okay, what was going on?
Speaker 3: These these massive things with these lids. It literally looks
Speaker 3: like you're walking around like where giants used to roam.
Speaker 3: That's what it felt like. And everyone there, I'm with
Speaker 3: these channelers and psychics and everything, and everyone there felt
Speaker 3: that these were like it was like a portal system,
Speaker 3: like you would lay in one of these boxes and
Speaker 3: you could like go to your home world or something
Speaker 3: like like like something like that, you would say something,
Speaker 3: and that's what everyone was kind of feeling into. Now
Speaker 3: we don't know if that's true, but that's kind of
Speaker 3: what everyone was, you know, that's the vibe that was
Speaker 3: they were getting.
Speaker 1: And dude, very similar to your experience. You think about
Speaker 1: John Carter whenever he had to lay in that sarcophagus,
Speaker 1: he had to say like ah, oh hey whatever and
Speaker 1: it and like somehow he's just transferred. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it's just a Disney movie, but like I think
Speaker 1: that there's always little tidbits of truth and a lot
Speaker 1: of different movies out there, you know, whether it's the
Speaker 1: director that's trying to insert some kind of esoteric Easter
Speaker 1: egg or something like that. But dude, how sick would
Speaker 1: it be if you can just lay somewhere that is
Speaker 1: perfect for you to be able to travel back to wherever,
Speaker 1: whatever home is, you know, like my God, And because
Speaker 1: I feel like you know, and everybody's probably felt this
Speaker 1: this way at a time or two in their life
Speaker 1: where they felt like this wasn't home, you know, like
Speaker 1: you just can't find home. You know, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what state you live in, who you surround yourself with,
Speaker 1: just some things just feel foreign, you know. And why
Speaker 1: why is it that so many people feel that, you know,
Speaker 1: could we all be you know, uh, is this our
Speaker 1: first time incarnating as humans? Are we star seeds? Are
Speaker 1: we actually aliens? Trying to experience what human life is?
Speaker 1: Like it could be so many different damps.
Speaker 3: All those are valid possibilities. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I mean that's there's something going
Speaker 3: on there. We all, not all of us. Some people
Speaker 3: seem to be very happy here and they fit right in,
Speaker 3: but a lot of us on this journey are uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: And and that's why I moved, Like I'm trying to
Speaker 3: find that where my soul feels best on this planet,
Speaker 3: you know, and and what's what feels more familiar to
Speaker 3: me and like home? And and there's something to that, absolutely,
Speaker 3: And I think all the possibilities you just named, I
Speaker 3: think that they're all likely.
Speaker 1: It's damn near possible for sure. So now you're out
Speaker 1: in Sedona, and man, I am so jealous of that
Speaker 1: that that's and I've I've was born in Arizona. I
Speaker 1: visit Arizona every single year. My parents live out here,
Speaker 1: I got grandparents out here, I got my cousin Sean
Speaker 1: and my aunt Kelly and and stuff like that all
Speaker 1: out here, right, And and I've never been to Sedona.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I doing with my life? Because
Speaker 1: you hear it's just one of the best places for vortexes. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you experienced anything to do with Sedona in vor
Speaker 1: Texas or anything like that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it doesn't take long. I mean I've been
Speaker 3: coming out here for a few years before I decide
Speaker 3: to move here. But uh, there's definitely measurable vortex sites,
Speaker 3: meaning like people bring equipment and like the electromagnetic frequencies
Speaker 3: are high or whatever. It is, like there's something tangibly
Speaker 3: measurable like at these sites and people have experience. I
Speaker 3: watched people break down in tears. I watch people have
Speaker 3: emotional like spiritual breakthroughs. I've seen it my girlfriend she
Speaker 3: hosts retreats, and this is common and there's a reason
Speaker 3: people come here because you can really like accelerate your
Speaker 3: spiritual journey here and that's what a lot of people
Speaker 3: like to do. So there is Have you heard of
Speaker 3: Bradshaw Ranch, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like it's
Speaker 3: kind of like Skimwalker Ranch, but here in Sodona, very
Speaker 3: similar things, same type of paranormal activity, aliens, cryptids, you
Speaker 3: name it. Like every anything you name it, it can
Speaker 3: happen out there. So we went out there a few
Speaker 3: times and I found out from I interviewed one of
Speaker 3: the guys who frequents out there and he's basically an
Speaker 3: expert on the ranch. And there is this windmill on
Speaker 3: the site that a team win. It's this windmill and
Speaker 3: I've literally witnessed it do this. It won't be windy
Speaker 3: at all. It'll start spinning on its own. Sometimes it'll
Speaker 3: start rotating on its own, like it has a mind
Speaker 3: of its own and nobody knows why. And like there
Speaker 3: literally won't be wind it will be the stillest day.
Speaker 3: And people have like people have gotten together and like
Speaker 3: use their mind mind like to try and get to
Speaker 3: move and like have had success. And so they kind
Speaker 3: of team out and measured this and it measures the
Speaker 3: most powerful vortex in Sedona at this windmill site on
Speaker 3: Bradshaw Ranch. And there's footage out there. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: this guy has he was out there investigating it, and
Speaker 3: there's these security cameras and I don't know how it
Speaker 3: all happened, just happened to be a perfect time, but
Speaker 3: there was my friend was out there investigating and literally
Speaker 3: near that, uh that windmill was on camera. Literally it
Speaker 3: looks like a being of light, like a humanoid white
Speaker 3: light like figure and it's standing there and it's photographed
Speaker 3: clear as day, and I've seen the photo and it's
Speaker 3: and it wasn't there, like he couldn't see it, but
Speaker 3: it was standing there in a photo and next to
Speaker 3: this thing. And there's just a story after story. There's
Speaker 3: documentaries about that place. It's out here, that place a
Speaker 3: law is worth coming to go investigate, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, meditate next to that thing, dude, I mean, what
Speaker 5: do you think that is?
Speaker 1: Sean like in your mind? How does that process?
Speaker 2: I don't know, do want?
Speaker 5: You know, because a lot of the things that we
Speaker 5: talk about, you know, has to do with consciousness, you know,
Speaker 5: and so I feel like consciousness is infinite, and if
Speaker 5: it wants to express itself with some sort of light
Speaker 5: being next to a you know, a known portal, you know,
Speaker 5: for people to see it, just to kind of let
Speaker 5: people know, especially those that are open to the information.
Speaker 5: And I feel like that has a lot to do
Speaker 5: with the things that are experienced, you know, the as
Speaker 5: you said, you know, you go to these places and
Speaker 5: you name it, you can experience it the things that
Speaker 5: you have been thinking about. And so I don't know,
Speaker 5: maybe the portal itself just kind of activates whatever that
Speaker 5: is inside of you that is able to experience said things.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like almost like a I don't know
Speaker 5: how to explain it, but just like this is where
Speaker 5: you go if you want to experience the thing that
Speaker 5: you've been right.
Speaker 3: And it's sometimes disappointing because sometimes it's not like every time.
Speaker 3: It's not Disney World. You know. Sometimes you literally will
Speaker 3: go there and it'll be the most normal night you've
Speaker 3: ever had. It doesn't always happen, you know, but when
Speaker 3: but when you're on there, and when you're there on
Speaker 3: an active night, it's pretty wild. Like you'll see ships
Speaker 3: in the sky, like my girlfriend film like literally like
Speaker 3: a whole fleet of craft. I'm not joking. It sounds
Speaker 3: like I'm making it up. I can send you guys
Speaker 3: a video and I'll blow your mind. But that same
Speaker 3: night when we were seeing all these ships in the sky,
Speaker 3: these craft, we were literally having something outside. It's pitch
Speaker 3: black outside this pitch black and sedon. It's a dark
Speaker 3: sky community, Like there's there's no light, so it's pitch
Speaker 3: black and we're sitting in this circle right and you
Speaker 3: can't see anything outside of it without a flashlight. I mean,
Speaker 3: nothing like zero visibility when there's no moon, and something
Speaker 3: was quite literally throwing pebbles at us, like throwing pebbles
Speaker 3: into the circle. Like we it could be sasquatch, could
Speaker 3: be whatever, it could be, whatever you want it to be, right,
Speaker 3: but something was. We were like, what was that? And
Speaker 3: you literally hear a rock and the like, and it
Speaker 3: was something from outside of the circle was like tossing
Speaker 3: things and not trying to hurt us, but tossing things
Speaker 3: in there. And there's this abandoned house that's real like
Speaker 3: a haunted house and people do paranormal investigations there and
Speaker 3: we were like the door from that house was like
Speaker 3: literally like opening and closing, like you could hear it creaking,
Speaker 3: like as if somebody was dude. It was like it
Speaker 3: was like one of the most active nights. We went
Speaker 3: back the next time with a group of people. They
Speaker 3: all heard the story, and virtually nothing happened, like absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3: And I realized, like when we went there one day
Speaker 3: when we had all the activity, it was like my
Speaker 3: fourth time there and it was really the first time
Speaker 3: I've had that much activity. I had zero expectations that
Speaker 3: time because nothing had happened and we were just kind
Speaker 3: of going It was like a last minute thing. It
Speaker 3: wasn't planned, no one really, there was no expectations and
Speaker 3: it was just three of us and we were just
Speaker 3: basically going because we didn't have anything else to do.
Speaker 3: And I don't even think we were talking like it
Speaker 3: would just like everything happened. Whenever you stop trying to
Speaker 3: make it happen is the when it happens. You know.
Speaker 1: That's what you hear about the people experiencing like the
Speaker 1: CE five kind of stuff too. You know, like you
Speaker 1: gotta like, don't don't try. There is no trying it.
Speaker 1: It's just be like being present, you know, don't have
Speaker 1: any expectations, just be right there in the moment. And
Speaker 1: that seems to open a lot of things up as
Speaker 1: and and you you mentioned a fleet of ships. I
Speaker 1: needed a little bit more details.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're gonna think this it sounds like I know,
Speaker 3: like you hear somebody say it and I called this
Speaker 3: guy's full shit. But it's on videos. It was literally
Speaker 3: about nine o'clock at night and we're looking over the
Speaker 3: mountain and you see like this just like white light,
Speaker 3: and and then it would get really bright and then
Speaker 3: you know, disappear, and then another one come in a
Speaker 3: different direction and then next thing, you know, there's like
Speaker 3: three of them show up in triangle formation and then
Speaker 3: they start like going like they were moving in formation.
Speaker 3: Some of them were stopping and the other one would
Speaker 3: past each other and stop, and they were like doing
Speaker 3: these things in the sky, all on camera. It was.
Speaker 3: It happen for almost an hour. She took. She took
Speaker 3: basically an hour is worth of footage and got it
Speaker 3: down the six minutes of like the best parts, and
Speaker 3: then put it on YouTube and ended up going viral.
Speaker 3: Like it just took off, and then she started getting
Speaker 3: interviewed and she actually was been on was just recently
Speaker 3: on Ancient Aliens and like it was like she yeah,
Speaker 3: so anyway, like she she's that's her whole story. She
Speaker 3: just happens to go where and get footage. She's an
Speaker 3: astrophotographer and she captures foot there's like some amazing footage
Speaker 3: of these craft. And that's how she got picked up.
Speaker 3: The Travel Channel did a thing on her. She got
Speaker 3: Oncient Aliens, but she was the one who like happens
Speaker 3: to catch this fleet, you know, and it's just like
Speaker 3: that's amazing, there's something there, but it's I'll send you
Speaker 3: guys video like legit. I'll just remind me, I'll send
Speaker 3: you to it's on her YouTube and just watch it
Speaker 3: and just you see for yourself.
Speaker 1: I would love that, yeah, man, because I swear we've
Speaker 1: seen some shit out in the skies and there is
Speaker 1: no I mean, you can't explain it away, not with
Speaker 1: anything that you think is going on.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like there's no alien or there's no you know,
Speaker 1: helicopter or airplane or satellite that is moving in these
Speaker 1: strange ways. And I don't know what to make of it,
Speaker 1: you know, like I I mean, are they what do
Speaker 1: you think is actually going on? Like like especially the
Speaker 1: ones that seem almost like they're or blan like you know,
Speaker 1: like just a light or something. Do you think that
Speaker 1: that's like consciousness traveling? What do you think is going
Speaker 1: on there?
Speaker 3: I think that's possible. I think there's light ships like
Speaker 3: plasmoids and stuff you hear about. This is stuff that's
Speaker 3: going around, like everything's kind of being disclosed under the table.
Speaker 3: You can find the articles about this stuff. Scientists are
Speaker 3: taking it seriously now, you know, and they're even writing
Speaker 3: articles now how they have to rethink physics, like or
Speaker 3: do we need to rethink physics and stuff, because I mean,
Speaker 3: physics doesn't explain this multi dimensional reality and what everybody's experiencing.
Speaker 3: And you know, stuff is being called on camera that
Speaker 3: you just have to it's not AI sometimes and you
Speaker 3: have to find an explanation for it. But I think
Speaker 3: that what we're experiencing sometimes is quite literally an orb
Speaker 3: like craft that has its own consciousness. Maybe and it
Speaker 3: sounds silly, but maybe not like maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're actually a fleet of Pleiadians. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I genuinely don't know. But there is a movie out
Speaker 3: there called The Green Beautiful. You've never heard of it
Speaker 3: probably it's a French movie that's been literally banned in
Speaker 3: the US for for reasons that are on I don't
Speaker 3: know why technically the technicalities, but it's you have to
Speaker 3: watch it in subtitles. We put it on our Patreon.
Speaker 3: I can send you the link. It's not it's not
Speaker 3: on any streaming platform. But it's about these human these
Speaker 3: humans that live on another planet and they're but they're
Speaker 3: much more advanced and they come to Earth and help
Speaker 3: unlock people and awaken people one by one. But the
Speaker 3: people on the other think they're aliens because they're humans,
Speaker 3: but they're literally from our planet. But how they travel
Speaker 3: here is in a sphere of white light, so they
Speaker 3: look like an orb when they travel, and so they
Speaker 3: lead and people think this movie is like just some
Speaker 3: of the heaviest disclosure. If they watch it, it's almost
Speaker 3: it's like they're, oh shit, this movie was so close
Speaker 3: to the truth. They're like, get it off the damn
Speaker 3: streaming platforms. They don't even want us thinking this direction, right,
Speaker 3: So they they literally they don't they don't get in
Speaker 3: the craft on their planet. They just like get into
Speaker 3: the sphere of light that they generate themselves, and then
Speaker 3: they travel here that way and then they show up
Speaker 3: and it literally looks like an orb of light going
Speaker 3: to the sky until they land, and then it's just
Speaker 3: a human that comes out of it. What's interesting is
Speaker 3: in the movie, they can't drink our water. They can't.
Speaker 3: They're appalled that we eat meat. They can't believe that
Speaker 3: we even do in our air is so toxic and
Speaker 3: all stuff, and they can't just believe, and they can't
Speaker 3: even get to us or communicate with us, like it's
Speaker 3: very difficult. But one group of them ends up in
Speaker 3: Australia where the Aboriginals are, and the Aboriginals never stopped
Speaker 3: speaking telepathy, they never stopped living the way that we
Speaker 3: should all be living. And they were these extraterrestrial humans
Speaker 3: were able to communicate with the tribes, the Aboriginals because
Speaker 3: they're ones on a planet that didn't forget telepathy, and
Speaker 3: they were able to communicate with them. And then I'm like,
Speaker 3: there's something to that, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely want to watch that.
Speaker 2: And I just looked watching this weekend.
Speaker 1: It says that it came out in ninety six, so
Speaker 1: it's been out for a hot minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's something And there's a weird tip about
Speaker 3: the movie. I have to tell you. So the subtitles
Speaker 3: are really fast, like almost like you think, oh I
Speaker 3: can read that fast. No you can't, Like you gotta
Speaker 3: watch you can. When I send you the link, it
Speaker 3: literally gives you an option of what speed to play
Speaker 3: the movie in, and you got to watch it in
Speaker 3: a half a point five speed lower slower than usual
Speaker 3: to even read the subtitles, because otherwise it's like impossibly fast.
Speaker 3: It doesn't it actually doesn't ruin the movie at all.
Speaker 3: You don't notice it, you know, but it's just slow
Speaker 3: enough so you can read the subtitles. It's actually crucial,
Speaker 3: Like if otherwise you'd be like turn it off because
Speaker 3: you're just like I can't keep up with it, stressful,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: Or just put it on mute, dude, and forget the
Speaker 5: subtitles and just take it in visually, dude, to make
Speaker 5: up your own story.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's probably good too, man.
Speaker 1: I love talking about all of this. This is all
Speaker 1: my favorite shit all like literally, this entire episode is
Speaker 1: all my favorite things to talk about. I love it.
Speaker 3: Let me let me leave you with one more story
Speaker 3: about the Aboriginals if we have time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So here in Sedona, it was very as a whole accident,
Speaker 3: not an accident, but uh, synchronous synchronicity. I came here
Speaker 3: to speak at the conference last October, and I was
Speaker 3: staying with a friend of mine. But I wasn't supposed
Speaker 3: to stay with him. I was supposed to stay with
Speaker 3: someone else. Like the whole arrangements like have changed last minute,
Speaker 3: and I go stay with this guy. I don't he's
Speaker 3: a friend of mine. I don't know him that well,
Speaker 3: but he is a friend. Like somebody I'm like okay,
Speaker 3: free places stay. He lives with this eighty five year
Speaker 3: old guy. And I started talking to this guy, and
Speaker 3: it turns out he claims that he worked forty he's
Speaker 3: a quantum physicist and he worked forty years for the
Speaker 3: shadow government. And he told me that he was brought
Speaker 3: in from the Air Force, I believe, and to help
Speaker 3: work on the technology that they were experimenting with with
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia experiment. I don't know if you're familiar with that, yeah,
Speaker 3: So basically he told me it's a dimensional shift technology,
Speaker 3: what they call dimensional shift technology, which literally like you
Speaker 3: shift out of this dimension and it's like a form
Speaker 3: of time travel teleportation. And he said that they were
Speaker 3: having issues with the technology, and he said the reason
Speaker 3: that they were was because they lacked a psychic navigator,
Speaker 3: a remote viewer for lack of a better term. They
Speaker 3: knew how to use the technology, but they didn't know
Speaker 3: how to control where they were going. And if you
Speaker 3: don't know how to control where you're going, you could
Speaker 3: literally end up phasing back in into inside of a
Speaker 3: solid and that's what was happening to those people. So
Speaker 3: he was brought in with after numerous testing and all
Speaker 3: this stuff, to help work on this perfect his technology.
Speaker 3: He said, by the time he joined the When he
Speaker 3: joined the program, this was like this device was the
Speaker 3: size of a massive, a big room, and by the
Speaker 3: time he left the program, it was the size of
Speaker 3: your cell phone, and it was installed on all of
Speaker 3: the US space fleet. He says, whoa, and he goes,
Speaker 3: that's how they travel and remain hidden. That they travel
Speaker 3: out of phase, so they're literally it's a dimensional shift technology,
Speaker 3: so they're not even traveling in our visible white spectrum.
Speaker 3: They don't even technically need cloaking technology. They're just traveling
Speaker 3: in a different frequency, so we don't see him.
Speaker 2: We're blind to it anyways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but here's where it gets weird. And this
Speaker 3: is where the Aboriginals come in. So he said, one
Speaker 3: of the other issues they had, there's just so these
Speaker 3: crash retrievals. This guy's telling me all this stuff. I
Speaker 3: didn't know I was going to say this house. He
Speaker 3: just starts telling me this because he finds out what
Speaker 3: I do. But he would now allow me to uh
Speaker 3: interview him on camera because he has NDA's and all
Speaker 3: this stuff.
Speaker 1: And and makes sense.
Speaker 3: He did. He literally and he he was told he
Speaker 3: was told that if he ever shares that interview with
Speaker 3: somebody on film, that that person wouldn't make it across
Speaker 3: the street alive with the footage anyway, so he might
Speaker 3: as well not do it. So he was like scared
Speaker 3: to scared to even like let me film him for
Speaker 3: my safety. Wow, even though I think that was just
Speaker 3: more like a scare tactic, you know. But either way,
Speaker 3: that's why he won't go on film. But he told
Speaker 3: me that. So we have these crashed retrievals, these UFOs,
Speaker 3: and some of them don't have doors and they didn't
Speaker 3: know how to get inside, and this was a big
Speaker 3: problem because they were trying to reverse engineer him. So him,
Speaker 3: he claims that him and some of their top men,
Speaker 3: that their top most psychic intuitive men, the best remote
Speaker 3: viewers and all this stuff, like their top men were
Speaker 3: sent to go training with the Aboriginals and he had
Speaker 3: to train nine months in Africa, nine months on Easter Island,
Speaker 3: and nine months in Australia with these tribes. Because these
Speaker 3: tribes know how they used the Earth's natural portal system
Speaker 3: like Bigfoot is what he said. He said, know how
Speaker 3: to use the natural portal system. They speak telepathy. They
Speaker 3: can also bilocate and teleport their physical body. And this
Speaker 3: is something a lost art but all humans can do,
Speaker 3: but they haven't forgotten. So these men had to train
Speaker 3: with these tribes until they learn how to physically teleport
Speaker 3: their body and essentially bilocate inside of the craft so
Speaker 3: they can get inside of it. And he said, after
Speaker 3: almost three years of training, he came back and he like,
Speaker 3: he passed all the tests from the tribes, and he
Speaker 3: came back and said they were successful. These men were
Speaker 3: able to quite literally get into a state of meditation
Speaker 3: and and bilocate or teleport literally inside this craft that
Speaker 3: they were trying to get inside of and like reverse
Speaker 3: engineer from the inside out. This is what this guy
Speaker 3: was telling me. And he's like, this is how sophisticated
Speaker 3: this stuff is. And he said that the Aboriginals on
Speaker 3: this planet are the closest thing to ets and than
Speaker 3: we could than we ever get.
Speaker 1: You know, wow, that is amazing. And dude, I've looked
Speaker 1: extensively into the Philadelphia experiment in the mon Talk project,
Speaker 1: they kind of go together, and dude, you hear about
Speaker 1: that story. I can't remember what was the name of
Speaker 1: the ship, the USS whatever, the Fuldridge, Eldridge yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and to where they they're they're trying to like teleport themselves,
Speaker 1: but whenever they come back, they're like literally stuck into
Speaker 1: the walls of the ship because it was what was
Speaker 1: it they came back at the wrong time or something
Speaker 1: like that, Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well that's what he said. He goes, they
Speaker 3: just he goes remote viewing. He goes, you can't even
Speaker 3: think about doing any of the stuff unless you're a
Speaker 3: master remote viewer, And he goes, you have to be
Speaker 3: able to remote view before he can teleport. You have
Speaker 3: to be able to see a location and any coordinate
Speaker 3: you're given with such pinpoint act or see that you
Speaker 3: literally know where your feet are going to land once
Speaker 3: you get to the state of the point of literally
Speaker 3: like molecular dissociation and like reappearing somewhere else. He made
Speaker 3: it sound like it was absolutely possible, and like he said,
Speaker 3: you could do it too. But he goes, you gotta
Speaker 3: also he said, if you have an nefarious bone in
Speaker 3: your body, it won't work. He goes, it only works
Speaker 3: in tandem with the heart. Like these people like if
Speaker 3: if some dark group was to try and tell report,
Speaker 3: they would never literally be able to do it. That's
Speaker 3: why they spend trillions of dollars on the technology to
Speaker 3: do it artificially, because they're they're horrible people, right. He said,
Speaker 3: you have to have the purest intention so much so
Speaker 3: that like like god like like you can't lie to
Speaker 3: yourself about anything. You just have to be pure. And
Speaker 3: if you're and if you're traveling for the right reasons,
Speaker 3: then then you can do it. But he said, if
Speaker 3: you want to do it to like show off to
Speaker 3: somebody or for anything the farious, or teleport inside this
Speaker 3: room to steal something like, it literally won't work. You
Speaker 3: will literally never get to that state. And he just
Speaker 3: couldn't stress enough, like it has to come from the
Speaker 3: purest intention possible. It's the only way you can do it.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's coming from a military guy.
Speaker 2: It's gotta go through the heart, you know. It's like
Speaker 2: what you know? That's I don't know. There might be
Speaker 2: something to that, man.
Speaker 1: Dude, I tell you what too. The So, I've been
Speaker 1: rewatching the episodes of Stranger Things because the new season
Speaker 1: is about to get getting ready to come out, and
Speaker 1: me and my daughter's thing, we watched Stranger Things at
Speaker 1: the we'll binge the entire season one day. So I've
Speaker 1: been trying to catch up on it, and I'm watching
Speaker 1: the most recent recent season that came out like a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and the first couple of episodes
Speaker 1: is Whenever Eleven is literally doing like telepathy and telekinesis.
Speaker 1: And I mean, of course she's like murdering people too,
Speaker 1: but there's that, but you know the idea of doing
Speaker 1: things and being able to remote view, just like with
Speaker 1: a blindfold on, right, and the teacher or whatever is like,
Speaker 1: where's number six at? And the guy's like, he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm seeing I see him, and then he
Speaker 1: gets all shocked and realizes I'm not gonna give it
Speaker 1: away in case anybody hasn't seen it. But it is
Speaker 1: crazy that that is like even a TV show, you know.
Speaker 1: And and most people would probably look at that and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's just TV, you know, because we've
Speaker 1: all watched a movie or a TV show and thought, man,
Speaker 1: I wish that was real. I would give anything to
Speaker 1: have that be real. And like I and I always mentioned,
Speaker 1: like my face right right, and I always mentioned, like
Speaker 1: one of my favorite childhood movies is Matilda, right, like,
Speaker 1: just to be able to happen awesome, right, and and
Speaker 1: and what we're learning now is that those things are
Speaker 1: closer to the truth than we thought, you know, and
Speaker 1: a lot of these things are a lot more possible
Speaker 1: than we initially thought, maybe not exactly how we thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be, you know, whenever you you know,
Speaker 1: like I always like bring up like Harry Potter and
Speaker 1: his wand, like, you're not going to see a fucking
Speaker 1: lightning bowl shoot out of your wand or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But that's not to say that through your intention and
Speaker 1: through your alignment and your awareness, do you can't direct
Speaker 1: some kind of energy out of a wand even right right?
Speaker 3: No, I agree, And you know, the whole remote viewing
Speaker 3: thing and like moving things with your mind. What he
Speaker 3: was explaining to me is like, yeah, the CIA has
Speaker 3: been doing it for a long time and they've spent
Speaker 3: trillions of dollars and basically they've perfected it. And they
Speaker 3: they do remote influencing. He said, they can like if
Speaker 3: they get a group of people all with the same intention,
Speaker 3: they could literally get somebody in another room to get
Speaker 3: up and open the door. They can make they can
Speaker 3: make them do it just by remote influencing. And they've
Speaker 3: done it and they've done it. They're like, it's like
Speaker 3: these hypnotic suggestions, but it's all done through remote viewing
Speaker 3: from a separate location remote.
Speaker 1: But that is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then he said, yeah, remote influencing, and he
Speaker 3: said he made sound very matter of fact. The works based.
Speaker 3: Also what they can do is remote They can kill
Speaker 3: people that way too. You can. And there's a movie
Speaker 3: I forgot what it's called that we my girlfriend and
Speaker 3: I just scrolled past it last night on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3: It's like from the eighties. It's about these remote viewer teams,
Speaker 3: these guys who were literally killing people via it with
Speaker 3: remote viewing, and that's what the movie's about. And like
Speaker 3: in the movie, it's like super exaggerated and the guys
Speaker 3: had explodes, Like they focus on this one guy and
Speaker 3: they all imagine his head exploding and it said his
Speaker 3: head explodes in the other room.
Speaker 2: I think, I know what movie you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm just like, but that's that's real, Like
Speaker 3: they put this stuff out in the movies and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: but remote viewing, remote influencing, And he said, it's like
Speaker 3: it is by far the most highly sought after abilities,
Speaker 3: Like if you can do that, even like naturally as
Speaker 3: a kid or something they know, and they're like they
Speaker 3: they track these kids and the people with these abilities,
Speaker 3: and they'll pull them into these programs and they're read
Speaker 3: into these secret programs and whatever. They know who's who's,
Speaker 3: who's who, and he's If you start coming online and
Speaker 3: then start remote viewing places or even facilities, they have
Speaker 3: psychics in place, they have like remote viewing security essentially,
Speaker 3: and they can literally they would they can literally pinpoint
Speaker 3: it back to you if you're remote viewing. It's like
Speaker 3: it literally creates like a thread, an energetic thread that
Speaker 3: they can trace back to you if you try to
Speaker 3: remote view like a government facility at some point.
Speaker 5: Wow, have you ever have you ever experienced that? Like, uh,
Speaker 5: like if you're half in and out of sleep, or
Speaker 5: you're about to fall asleep, but you're still consciously aware,
Speaker 5: and you feel like you see an image of anything.
Speaker 2: Have you ever accidentally remote viewed?
Speaker 3: Maybe? I mean I've seen images by what I've never
Speaker 3: actually thought about it as accidentally remote viewing, But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I've experienced that.
Speaker 5: Like just today, I laid down for like a little nap,
Speaker 5: like I was so exhausted after work, and I don't
Speaker 5: even know if I fully fell asleep, Like it was
Speaker 5: only maybe fifteen minutes. But I felt like I saw
Speaker 5: a couple images like fade in and fade out, and
Speaker 5: I'm like.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 5: Like, I'm not thinking of these things. Like at one
Speaker 5: point I saw like a I don't know if it
Speaker 5: was a city bus or a school bus, but it
Speaker 5: was just like the randomest set of imagery, you know,
Speaker 5: Like I wonder if if that's what's happening, you know,
Speaker 5: And as you're talking about it, it's just like, I
Speaker 5: don't know, man, I feel like these things, like you said,
Speaker 5: are are the truth, These are things that are happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would I wouldn't rule that out. Definitely,
Speaker 3: I would say that's a possibility, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta be more careful then, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't think security out there, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: if that's happening in unconscious state, I don't think you
Speaker 3: have to worry about it. But it's people that Actually
Speaker 3: a friend of mine who's a professional remote viewer, she
Speaker 3: tried to remote view the backside of the moon, and
Speaker 3: she said it was the one and only target she's
Speaker 3: ever gotten where she was actually approached by authorities, somebody
Speaker 3: of authority and basically threatened scared into not doing that
Speaker 3: that don't go there, And she doesn't even talk about it.
Speaker 3: She it scared her so much she won't even tell
Speaker 3: that story on camera, like she'll and and I asked her,
Speaker 3: I can say this because it's not me and I'm
Speaker 3: not disclosing her name. I have said, what were you
Speaker 3: actually remote vieering? She goes, I wanted to see how
Speaker 3: they really got to the moon and and and I
Speaker 3: was like, well, how did that? What did you see?
Speaker 3: And she's like, well, it wasn't a rocket, it was
Speaker 3: it was a sophisticated the technology almost like a teleportation,
Speaker 3: like a jump room like it. And that's what she saw.
Speaker 3: And but and she like had like pages of data
Speaker 3: on it and stuff, and she says, the one an
Speaker 3: only target she was ever. They tracked her down and
Speaker 3: told her don't share that information.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, do you know exactly how they would
Speaker 1: even know?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Like what is there a technology that sees something that's
Speaker 1: going on in the ether or what do you what
Speaker 1: is really what do you think is happening?
Speaker 3: I there has to be. I don't know unless there's
Speaker 3: other like remote viewers or other people, like a psychic
Speaker 3: security team that knows, like in sense when somebody's like
Speaker 3: trying to penetrate that field and they just track it
Speaker 3: back like I think it. We just don't like these
Speaker 3: people at the highest levels, the elites or whoever. They
Speaker 3: know us much better than we know ourselves. If you
Speaker 3: ever want to know what's possible, read the books. Read
Speaker 3: the book three hundred and thirty four Lives. It's the
Speaker 3: most disturbing thing ever. But it's a it's a former
Speaker 3: high chair of the Illuminati basically escaped the order and
Speaker 3: wrote a book and he talks about what goes on
Speaker 3: in there. And it's the most disturbing book. It's hard
Speaker 3: to get through, but if you get to the end.
Speaker 3: Talks about what these these people literally call themselves wizards,
Speaker 3: and they do things that look like magic, and they
Speaker 3: have abilities that literally we would think are aren't supposed
Speaker 3: to be possible. Basically, he said that Harry Potters is
Speaker 3: like a documentary. You know, they could stuff really, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, they but he said that it's it's quite
Speaker 3: literally would look like magic to us, but it's actually
Speaker 3: very simple once you unlock the occult knowledge to do it,
Speaker 3: like it's anyone can do it, but that all the
Speaker 3: information is being held from us, so we have to
Speaker 3: discover it on our own if we even are curious
Speaker 3: to go down that path.
Speaker 1: You know, That's what this show is all about, baby,
Speaker 1: that we are always trying to get into all the symbolism,
Speaker 1: and we're actually reading this book called the the seventy
Speaker 1: eight Degrees of Wisdom. It's all about like the deeper,
Speaker 1: more symbolic meanings of each Tarot card. Fucking mind blowing.
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about like things and details that
Speaker 1: are being brought up that you would have never even noticed.
Speaker 1: And it is just as occult as it gets.
Speaker 3: And I love it, right yeah, yeah, this this guy,
Speaker 3: I mean he was in that book. He was talking
Speaker 3: about like at the highest level, once you get past
Speaker 3: thirty three degrees, it keeps going actually like forty one
Speaker 3: or something, and it's cut throat. Everybody wants to kill
Speaker 3: each other and the only way that you like make
Speaker 3: to the top is like they literally will send people
Speaker 3: to kill you. And if because you're always trying to
Speaker 3: kill your competition, it gets that evil he said that
Speaker 3: like you want to hold the high chair because everybody
Speaker 3: has to do what you say. But if you get killed,
Speaker 3: if you didn't see it psychically, if you didn't pick
Speaker 3: up on it, then that's then you weren't worthy enough
Speaker 3: to have the high chair. So if you get killed
Speaker 3: by somebody that's in after you, then then that's you
Speaker 3: weren't worthy of that position anyway. And he said, it's
Speaker 3: so you're always looking over your shoulder. And what these
Speaker 3: guys do is literally bury themselves alive for days, weeks
Speaker 3: at a time. They leave their body and if they
Speaker 3: come back, that's how they get up. That's how they
Speaker 3: raise a degree. And like this what this this is
Speaker 3: this whistleblow I was talking about, said and I forget
Speaker 3: what you called the mystic village at the Vatican. That's
Speaker 3: why they do this. Like like they'll they'll be some
Speaker 3: of these guys will reach as such an a state
Speaker 3: of enlightenment that they'll go to this mystic village in
Speaker 3: the Vatican and just literally choose to leave this body
Speaker 3: and they'll just move on to the next life. They
Speaker 3: don't even die, they just they just choose to leave.
Speaker 3: And it's a place like a safe haven for them
Speaker 3: to go do that, and it's like, dude, it's a
Speaker 3: whole next level shit out there.
Speaker 1: Supposedly that's what said Guru's wife did. That's what I
Speaker 1: hear that, Like she was like, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: my time. I don't want to be here anymore. I
Speaker 1: think she was like she had cancer, she was sick
Speaker 1: or something like that, and she just didn't want to
Speaker 1: put up with it anymore. And sad Guru like guided
Speaker 1: her through a ceremony and a lot of people were
Speaker 1: questioning him, saying he killed her. And I'm like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: this is a real thing, Like you can make the
Speaker 1: decision to leave your body. I mean, I'm not very
Speaker 1: well versed in it, but I'm aware that it's a
Speaker 1: real thing for sure, right And man, there's just so
Speaker 1: much shit we really don't know, dude, and I can't.
Speaker 1: I just want to be a sponge and soak every
Speaker 1: single bit.
Speaker 3: And I'll leave you with this. The one thing he
Speaker 3: did say in the book a few times was the
Speaker 3: only thing that these people are scared of is humans
Speaker 3: us remembering because we like, if we all remember who
Speaker 3: we are, they know our power collectively, and they like
Speaker 3: literally would strip them of their power, because everything they're
Speaker 3: doing isn't in integrity, right, and like there's this whole
Speaker 3: like actual spiritual war aspect of this thing. And if
Speaker 3: we remembered our light and remember who we were, it
Speaker 3: literally strips them of their power. And that's the one
Speaker 3: thing that he said, is the one and only thing
Speaker 3: that anybody in the highest level of fears is us
Speaker 3: literally waking up to that ability remembering that. And then
Speaker 3: and then he said also, and there's no way that
Speaker 3: nobody will from the outside, will ever take this control
Speaker 3: system down from the outside, he said, you have to
Speaker 3: become one of them. You have to be in bed
Speaker 3: with one of them, you have to think like one
Speaker 3: of them. You have to literally become one of them.
Speaker 3: You have to know them, and it has to be
Speaker 3: taken down from the inside. And so he goes next,
Speaker 3: if you see people like on the world stage like that,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't think should be together, he said, there's always
Speaker 3: there's always something going on more than meets the eye. Basically, wow,
Speaker 3: of course, So I'm just yeah, I mean, you can
Speaker 3: use any example that you want, but if you see
Speaker 3: somebody that you like with somebody that you know is
Speaker 3: bad and why are they hanging out. Well, if you're
Speaker 3: trying to take down and undermine an entire ancient cabal,
Speaker 3: you gotta literally become one of them and think like
Speaker 3: them and then use their tactics to bring them down.
Speaker 3: Basically what he is what he said in the book.
Speaker 1: Right, basically Kanye and Kim Kardashian. That never made sense
Speaker 1: to me, you know.
Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, was that movie called Scanners?
Speaker 5: Is that the one you were talking I knew it,
Speaker 5: all right, good ship, WoT watch that that was gonna
Speaker 5: was gonna bother me?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, well, this is awesome. We went way longer
Speaker 3: than I thought that. I was loving this.
Speaker 1: No, dude, you're great. We appreciate it big time. We'll
Speaker 1: look at the end of every episode, we like to
Speaker 1: do a tarot reading, and usually the tarot cards seemed
Speaker 1: to sync up with whatever we were talking about. Just magically, synchronistically,
Speaker 1: it happens. And we started doing it just out of
Speaker 1: curiosity one day and it just blew our mind way
Speaker 1: too many times, and we're like, all right, it's a
Speaker 1: staple of the show, and so if that's all right
Speaker 1: with you, we would like.
Speaker 3: I'm excited by it. Let's do it all right?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 5: Well, we got the page of Cups, which interesting don't
Speaker 5: get very often.
Speaker 1: So the page we like to pull out our little
Speaker 1: cheat book right here.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would too. I'm not good with tarot cards.
Speaker 5: Well, we just started really trying to dig deep into
Speaker 5: the symbolism and all of that, and so it's going
Speaker 5: to take a minute.
Speaker 3: I think, Hey, it's awesome you're even doing it though.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: The Page of Cups, it says the messenger of love
Speaker 1: brings good news. Be open to new emotional experiences. Pages
Speaker 1: are considered to be the messengers in the tarot. The
Speaker 1: Page of Cups card or the page of Cups cards
Speaker 1: youthful Energy may represent a child or younger person in
Speaker 1: your life, or perhaps a message from your own inner
Speaker 1: child urging you to have more fun. The young page
Speaker 1: in this card wears a fancy floral tunic and flowing
Speaker 1: scarf around his head, hand on hip. He gives a
Speaker 1: playful look to the fish that emerges from the cup
Speaker 1: in his hand. There is an element of flirtation, mystery,
Speaker 1: and playfulness between these two. The page stands on land
Speaker 1: as water flows behind him, representing the double elements of
Speaker 1: Earth and water indicated in this card. There's another little
Speaker 1: message we'd like to read. The spiritual message. It says,
Speaker 1: get in touch with your inner child by finding playful
Speaker 1: ways of expressing yourself. Listen to your instincts about any
Speaker 1: messages or inspiration that flows into your life. Now. If
Speaker 1: you choose to begin new creative projects, approach them with
Speaker 1: the curiosity of your inner child. Learn to find awe
Speaker 1: in small moments.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 5: And you were just telling us about the story where
Speaker 5: you were, you know, you've experienced the gods possibly, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the god that's in you, that was in the form
Speaker 5: of this child.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I think that card though, maybe
Speaker 3: had something to do with this conversation. But there's actually
Speaker 3: something I needed to hear really that has something to
Speaker 3: do with what's going on with me personally right now.
Speaker 3: Spot on, Like it was actually really I really kind
Speaker 3: of need to hear that right now. So that's yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's so good. Yeah, that's cool. Man.
Speaker 1: It's magic how it works, dude. I mean, we're we're
Speaker 1: still learning about how it works, why it works, you know, synchronicity,
Speaker 1: It's there's just something magical about it. And what we
Speaker 1: found out, dude, is that you know, over the course
Speaker 1: of the past, especially the past few episodes, we find
Speaker 1: that we're essentially our own synchronicity generators. And you it
Speaker 1: makes sense if life doesn't have any real meaning, that
Speaker 1: only the meaning that it has is the meaning that
Speaker 1: you apply to it, then why wouldn't you just try
Speaker 1: and be a synchronosity generator all the time?
Speaker 2: Then? Right?
Speaker 3: I love that. I've never heard that, and I absolutely
Speaker 3: love that, and that resonates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, it really does.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, look, Tyler, thank you so much for coming to
Speaker 1: hang out with us. Dude, this is and you know,
Speaker 1: to think we were thinking about canceling this show tonight.
Speaker 3: I you know, it was funny because I was I
Speaker 3: actually got a really good hit whenever because I forgot
Speaker 3: about it, and I was like, oh, I we should
Speaker 3: still do it even if Aaron's not here whatever, And
Speaker 3: I got a really good hit, like no, this could
Speaker 3: be a really like good conversation and whatever, and I
Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, we should do it. And I'm
Speaker 3: glad you said yeah, because I was actually in the
Speaker 3: mood for it.
Speaker 2: You know, I was staying in that flow state.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: You know, and then like tightening out. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe we should. And then I was like, now he
Speaker 1: said he's down, I'm gonna pull my shit together.
Speaker 3: Then too, here's my book, bleed Through Tales from Another Timeline.
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Speaker 3: it in a theater a private screening here in January
Speaker 3: ninth in Sedona. And you know, you guys might be
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Speaker 3: if anybody in your audience is interested, that's coming out
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Speaker 3: to Amazon Prime and stuff like that. But we're doing
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Speaker 1: May have to make that trip.
Speaker 5: Sean, I mean, I mean, I think we're getting signs,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Just the last couple of days.
Speaker 3: Well, there's there's literally only like a handful of seats
Speaker 3: left in the theater. So if you did want to come,
Speaker 3: it's fifteen bucks. But if you really felt compelled, then
Speaker 3: you can come. Don't feel updated obviously, but.
Speaker 1: No no obligation at all. It sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll need to link and stuff. You can
Speaker 3: just go to our website though, if you want Journey
Speaker 3: the Truth that online. But this was a lot of fun, man,
Speaker 3: I like it. I really actually love what you guys
Speaker 3: are doing. It's refreshing. I do a lot of interviews,
Speaker 3: but the angle you guys are, your direction, everything, your vibe, everything.
Speaker 3: It's good stuff, man, It's appreciate that man, good hearted stuff.
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Speaker 2: So awesome. Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, whenever your your film comes out, you want to
Speaker 5: talk about it more or whatever. Just oh man, you
Speaker 5: got so much information, dude, I was I was having
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Speaker 3: Awesome. Yeah, well thank you.
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Speaker 5: Oh Man, this was just a great episode, dude. You know,
Speaker 5: I love these episodes where I hear the information that
Speaker 5: I knew I needed, you know, but I just didn't
Speaker 5: even know was out there, you know. And so I'm
Speaker 5: I'm just so happy this happened. This was so fun, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man, And it was a pleasure meeting you,
Speaker 3: and this is this is honestly very enjoyable. One of
Speaker 3: the most enjoyable interviews I've done in a long time.
Speaker 2: So sweet.
Speaker 1: Thanks dude, it's a lot of fun. Well, look, we'll
Speaker 1: definitely do it again. But if Journey to Truth came
Speaker 1: here and it's on you anything, it's that you don't
Speaker 1: know what you don't no, so I'll just get weird,
Speaker 1: stay weird.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: I got super deep on that one too.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: Did I feel like things were Yeah, Like for me, dude,
Speaker 5: it felt like because you know, you hear people saying like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is an activation, meditation or like different things like that,
Speaker 5: but like I actually felt like that's what was going on.
Speaker 2: Like I could see light pulsating.
Speaker 5: And then it like almost like I don't know, like
Speaker 5: streaked across and then like into me, you know, And
Speaker 5: it just felt like, at least in my understanding of
Speaker 5: what that experience was, at least what it was for
Speaker 5: me was it was just like almost unlocking parts of
Speaker 5: my mind that I didn't even know, like dormant parts
Speaker 5: of my mind, and it was just this light just
Speaker 5: coming in that I think is one of the most
Speaker 5: fascinating things, you know, because sometimes it happens, but it
Speaker 5: doesn't have a lot but whenever whatever she was saying
Speaker 5: as far as like think of someone that brings you
Speaker 5: joy think about, you know, the abundance or just these
Speaker 5: And every time I would think about the thing, I
Speaker 5: would see the light and it would like glow and
Speaker 5: it would like it would it would get bright and
Speaker 5: then come back down and then the light would just
Speaker 5: go and it would like come like toward me.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: That was the most visual meditation I've had in a
Speaker 5: long time. Like not the same visual as in, you know,
Speaker 5: a guided meditation where I'm visualizing things, but like actually
Speaker 5: seeing something happening, you know, yeah, just like even if
Speaker 5: it is just light flickering or moving around like there
Speaker 5: was there was shit going on, dude.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I felt that, you know. I got
Speaker 1: this weird sensation of like I started to get the spins,
Speaker 1: like the meditation spins, which are good spins, but I
Speaker 1: got it from an angle, as if.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Outside of and on top of the Milky Way galaxy
Speaker 1: is what I guess I perceived it to be, but
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw the ground aka like the
Speaker 1: galaxy below me, spinning in a in a clockwise motion,
Speaker 1: and I was almost like I could spin with it,
Speaker 1: or I could just sit there and observe it, and
Speaker 1: I can turn it on and turn it off and
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. And then it asked to find
Speaker 1: that one person that you love or whatever, and so
Speaker 1: I thought of my kids obviously, And then it was like,
Speaker 1: imagine what you want your future to look like. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean everybody wants to find their
Speaker 1: their match, you know what I mean, Like everybody wants
Speaker 1: to find their divine like counterpart, you know. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I have no idea what she's gonna
Speaker 1: look like. You know, I don't know, you know, what nationality,
Speaker 1: what color hair. I mean, I don't I really don't
Speaker 1: even have a preference. Like I'm not one of those, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those where I'm like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: only going to date a blonde. I know, I really
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter to me, you know, it really doesn't.
Speaker 1: But I did get a little sense of and I
Speaker 1: could just be hoping. I did get a little like
Speaker 1: I saw like a flash of a face, and dude,
Speaker 1: she looks so much like Olsen, the played Scarlet Witch.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Elizabeth Olsen I think her name is. And
Speaker 1: I was like, that would work. I'd be okay with that,
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know, you know, I mean whatever,
Speaker 1: could just be something, but I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: that's why I love meditation, because you get like weird
Speaker 1: things that you're not necessarily expecting. And I felt like
Speaker 1: I was like zoo, like zoning in on and like
Speaker 1: a blue pearl ear ring for some reason. Interesting that
Speaker 1: for some reason that was just like making itself abundantly
Speaker 1: obvious to me. I don't know what that's in reference to,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody, maybe I'm gonna see somebody wearing it, or
Speaker 1: it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be ay itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not attached to an ear even it was just
Speaker 1: but I knew that it was like a little blue
Speaker 1: pearl ear ring thing interesting. So we'll keep that documented
Speaker 1: in case that happens day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if there's such a thing as
Speaker 1: a blue stroll, but I mean I'm sure that they exist,
Speaker 1: you know, even even if they're like little fake ones.
Speaker 1: Who cares.
Speaker 5: I can almost guarantee you going to experience something having
Speaker 5: to since you are a synchronicity generator yourself. You know,
Speaker 5: I have a feeling there's going to be an experience
Speaker 5: fairly soon that has to do with some type of
Speaker 5: ear ring like that.
Speaker 2: You know, that would be cool that would be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, overall, really good meditation. God, that was
Speaker 1: that was a really deep one. And I getting a
Speaker 1: lot of visuals too. I don't always get like major visuals,
Speaker 1: but on the ones that, like where it's super visual,
Speaker 1: you're like, ah, yeah, I'm not even in this body anymore, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in a different dimension, man, just going for
Speaker 2: the ride.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm actually projecting now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, it actually felt like some things were being activated. Man,
Speaker 5: I don't know. That's the only way I can express that. Like,
Speaker 5: it was just like shedding light on areas of my being.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's funny too, is that if you
Speaker 1: think that's silly, then that's probably not what was happening,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you're almost blocking it if
Speaker 1: you think that's stupid, right, you know exactly. I mean, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: you're just there for the experience. You don't really know
Speaker 1: what it means. You don't even want to tash a
Speaker 1: definition to it. But you experience what you experienced and
Speaker 1: we'll see what comes of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And that's the coolest thing about it, man, because I
Speaker 5: go into every meditation with absolutely no expectation, Like I
Speaker 5: don't even know if I'm going to try to visualize
Speaker 5: something or if I'm just gonna allow things to happen,
Speaker 5: or I just go with the flow, dude. And it's
Speaker 5: just so cool, just the things that do happen, Like
Speaker 5: the visuals that I was getting were unlike what I
Speaker 5: normally would get, you know, Like it almost looked like
Speaker 5: there was a like a diamond like spinning, you know.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it was. It was super strange. It
Speaker 5: wasn't something I was imagining. It was just I was
Speaker 5: I was just observing it, you know, and not in
Speaker 5: my third eye, not like in the oh, visualize this
Speaker 5: and you can visualize an apple, but like.
Speaker 2: In behind the eyelids.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 5: There's got to be a term for that, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? That way, it's so much easier to
Speaker 5: discern or describe the type of visualization you're you're using,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: But there's I'm trying to remember what it's called. Oh
Speaker 1: that's right, hold on, let me because you said something
Speaker 1: and I want to look.
Speaker 3: It up real quick.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, dude, that was just that was a good one. Man.
Speaker 5: I felt like there was something to it too, because
Speaker 5: she sounded like a little assertive. She's like hold it,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like this is for your
Speaker 5: own good do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, She's like ordering us around over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, there is this thing.
Speaker 1: I was back whenever we were still shooting over at
Speaker 1: Christie's and we tripped one night and I was we
Speaker 1: went outside and she was like being all funny and
Speaker 1: like walking around saying, this.
Speaker 2: Is all fucking fake.
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? But I remember sitting on
Speaker 1: the back of like on the trunk of my car,
Speaker 1: just like enjoying it. I'm laughing my ass off. It's
Speaker 1: you know, I'm seeing Papa Rozzi and she's saying that
Speaker 1: everything's fake. So it's almost materializing in front of me
Speaker 1: that like, oh of course that's fake.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It just reminded me of on Beetlejuice, that little the
Speaker 1: fake land that he's in the little out of the bottle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the model set, all the trees and the grass and
Speaker 1: everything looks all fake and everything, and that's what I
Speaker 1: was like picturing as the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was fun.
Speaker 1: But but as I was sitting there, I had my
Speaker 1: hands like just sitting here like this, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I would just kind of unconsciously doing it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she goes, what are you doing with your hands? And
Speaker 1: then I became conscious of like what I was doing,
Speaker 1: and I was almost like levitating this this crystal. It
Speaker 1: was a double pointed crystal, and I didn't know what
Speaker 1: they didn't even know they made double pointed crystals, and
Speaker 1: I just and so I looked up what that actually was,
Speaker 1: and it's called a double terminated crystal. Oh, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to show you. I'm sure you know what it
Speaker 1: looks like, but just wanted to show here real quick.
Speaker 1: And so whenever I was like sitting there in meditation,
Speaker 1: I felt like one of these crystals spinning around in
Speaker 1: my hand. Imagine that pointed right side up, and it's
Speaker 1: just like fucking you know, rotating in my hand, and
Speaker 1: my energy is manipulating it and speeding it up. And
Speaker 1: it was just the coolest thing is that. So whenever
Speaker 1: you said that, like, would you say, like, a you look.
Speaker 5: Like a diamond like it not a not a diamond,
Speaker 5: like a a you know, like the shape diamond.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not necessarily a.
Speaker 5: Crystal or anything like that, but just the shape of
Speaker 5: a diamond just rotating kind of interesting. I know, yeah,
Speaker 5: who knows, man, it's just fun ship.
Speaker 1: I wonder if, like you know, I'm not gonna get
Speaker 1: too weird. Yeah, I would do it. I almost wonder
Speaker 1: if that's like the job of other light beings or
Speaker 1: aliens or something like that, to create like materialistic objects
Speaker 1: at will.
Speaker 5: Who's saying, dude, I mean anything is possible at this point, dude.
Speaker 2: You know yeah, I mean as far as we're coming
Speaker 2: to find out.
Speaker 1: Man, we don't know what we don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as soon as I.
Speaker 1: Said that, there was a he goes, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know? And I say that's
Speaker 1: a wise philosopher and he goes, oh yeah Crates And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, oh yeah, I guess he did
Speaker 1: say it first.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're referring to my credit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Got you.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I mean we'll throw it
Speaker 1: up the Socrates then that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy was on his ship, dude, he knew
Speaker 2: his ship. Man. You know that guy such as we'll
Speaker 2: definitely have to get him back.
Speaker 1: You can just tell a good guy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like just a good heart and a curious mind.
Speaker 1: Those are my favorite people.
Speaker 2: Oh man and what he what he you know, experienced, dude, Like,
Speaker 2: imagine going to work the next day, you know, just
Speaker 2: like and then people want to talk about the weather
Speaker 2: and you're like, I just hung out with the devil
Speaker 2: for a few hours and he showed me that, you know,
Speaker 2: that these parasites are are controlling your mind, and like
Speaker 2: that wasn't something he was expecting.
Speaker 5: It was definitely, I bet you it wasn't even anything
Speaker 5: he thought of within the last few years, if at all,
Speaker 5: Like he probably maybe never thought about that, and all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, it's just like part of his experience.
Speaker 1: Well, dude, and I think that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people out there that are having like these strange, wild,
Speaker 1: otherworldly experiences, and you know, you don't know what to
Speaker 1: do with it, and you don't even know who to
Speaker 1: talk to about it, because most people are probably gonna
Speaker 1: think you're crazy, you know, and because most people are
Speaker 1: locked into just the mundane reality. You know, wake up,
Speaker 1: brush your teeth, you know, put a little deodorant on,
Speaker 1: get ready for work, get the kids on the bus,
Speaker 1: go to work, exhausted. Hopefully somebody makes something to eat
Speaker 1: so you ain't got to get up off your ass
Speaker 1: to go make something to eat, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like the same shit on repeat, and people almost
Speaker 1: turn like zombie fide in that moment. And it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: because you know, there's so much to experience and there's
Speaker 1: no way, no fucking way, we are put here just
Speaker 1: to work and sleep and eat and raise kids, like
Speaker 1: there's there is more to life than that.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's interesting, you know that you say
Speaker 5: that the people that are just experiencing the mundane, they're
Speaker 5: not themean thinking about what else is possible, right, and
Speaker 5: so they experience just that, you know, the things that
Speaker 5: they know is is that's all there is to it.
Speaker 5: Then that's what they experience.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what's that.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a form of punishment, like they're punishing
Speaker 1: themselves for all.
Speaker 5: Well not even not even because they don't know any
Speaker 5: they don't know more than that they don't know, not
Speaker 5: to say that they're not smarter, And what I'm saying
Speaker 5: is that they don't know any different Like that is
Speaker 5: the reality. There is no more than that, And so
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily that they're locked into something. It's more
Speaker 5: so that they're manifesting that, you know, like, yeah, it's unknowingly.
Speaker 1: Because you hear about so many people. You know, they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, you know everybody says that there's a
Speaker 1: right way to go about life. You know, you got
Speaker 1: to get through high school, then go to college and
Speaker 1: hopefully you meet a boyfriend or a girlfriend or whatever,
Speaker 1: and college and you know, once you got that degree,
Speaker 1: then you get the good job, and then maybe you
Speaker 1: get married, and then you buy a house and then
Speaker 1: you have some kids. And people just expect that that's
Speaker 1: what happiness looks like until they complete all of those
Speaker 1: goals and they're sitting in that in that house and
Speaker 1: they don't have the connection that they want to with
Speaker 1: their person. They you know, they they thought that this
Speaker 1: was going to be everything and happily ever after. The
Speaker 1: problem is happily ever after is it's not a thing.
Speaker 1: You know, that's something you got to keep on working.
Speaker 2: At and get there's a model for it, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Isn't that interesting? Dude?
Speaker 1: That's every like happy romantic movie of everyone. You know, Wow,
Speaker 1: like that does That's unrealistic? That's the programming dude, right,
Speaker 1: you know, and somehow like magic is stupid. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, yeah, like, man, look at all the
Speaker 1: ship that we believe that is unrealistic, and this is
Speaker 1: the stuff that you're gonna call out and say doesn't exist.
Speaker 5: Come on now, yeah, come on, dude. Just different levels
Speaker 5: of understanding, man, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, hey, dude, I'm happy that you know, we're
Speaker 1: we're I almost not this. This is not a this
Speaker 1: is not a conceited thing at all. So I don't
Speaker 1: want people to take it the wrong way. I'm happy
Speaker 1: that we're like, at least out of the people that
Speaker 1: we know were those people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we're I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 1: We're the ones that are starting the journey to a
Speaker 1: lot of like all the people in our personal lives.
Speaker 1: You know, there's nobody else in my life that's like, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: how was your mushroom trip? They could give a book
Speaker 1: less right, or you know, hey, have you ever experienced
Speaker 1: anything UFO or alien relating? Nobody's asking me that. They're saying, hey,
Speaker 1: weather's nice today, or you know, hey, what do you
Speaker 1: think about this politician? I'm like, dude, if I hear
Speaker 1: another goddamn thing about any politician, I'm gonna blow my
Speaker 1: brains out, like I cannot stand politics, Like I'm so
Speaker 1: over it. It's not even funny.
Speaker 2: It is such.
Speaker 1: It is a energy drainer. It is it is a
Speaker 1: suckubyss and I can't stand it. And people get so
Speaker 1: caught up in it, and I was one of them.
Speaker 2: And you're weird if you don't pay attention to it.
Speaker 1: And you're part of the problem if you don't vote.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, yeah, you know, I'm just
Speaker 5: trying to manifest the best future I can. But you know,
Speaker 5: I guess I was supposed to be putting that energy
Speaker 5: into someone else's dream, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well people I don't know. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know here we are too. And I'm always I used
Speaker 1: to always got on you, like, why are you so
Speaker 1: worried about other people? I'm talking about it?
Speaker 2: Welcome to the life of an EmPATH.
Speaker 1: My people just don't get it. Why do you need
Speaker 1: people to get it? You just need to get it.
Speaker 2: Because I just want them to.
Speaker 5: You know, it would be for their own good anyways,
Speaker 5: It would benefit them greatly.
Speaker 1: It would it would, I believe that. So all right,
Speaker 1: the one this is uh, this is our last show
Speaker 1: with me and Shaw not being in the same house.
Speaker 1: So before I, you know, go over and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be hanging out over at your place for like five
Speaker 1: or six days. I'm sure we're gonna do three or
Speaker 1: four shows and it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be a fun time. Dude, looking forward to it, Manea,
Speaker 2: forward to it.
Speaker 1: So all right, the one, we love you and we
Speaker 1: will see you all the tips.
Speaker 2: Bye, guys, keep
Speaker 4: Keep