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We got Brady popinga on the line. Be Pop, how

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you living?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: How you living?

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Speaker 3: That?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Sounds like your voice is a little rasky there. Man.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what happens in radio, right. You have

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to speak for four hours a day. Uh, when you

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get a little cold, All of a sudden, you're like,

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oh man, now now got a cough, and now you

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never get time to rest.

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Speaker 5: Baby.

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Speaker 2: I'm just it's like the it's like the calf football season.

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No one's ever fully healthy. I'm never fully healthy during

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radio season.

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Speaker 4: Baby, I don't have to know you toughened it out, man,

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way to be to grant it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, if Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker could tough

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it out, I can continue to tough it out. What

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do you make of that game three in a row

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now in the Holy War, Brady, what stood out to

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you end this game?

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Speaker 4: Well, it was very much as I had anticipated, which

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is both sides were going to obviously play. I thought

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both of us played our best ball of the year

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in terms of physicality, execution, and ultimately it just comes

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down to I think everybody's really hit this multiple times,

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if it's you know, you're hearing the coaches or you know,

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anybody analyzing the game. That comes down to turnovers and

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then ultimately comes down to the fourth down conversions or

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lock thereof for Utah where they're one for five, and

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especially how big those were in terms of being at

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point blank range of kicking a field goal. Also big

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in the sense of being able to handle the inside

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running game because if you look at me, like a

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lot of people will go to the rushing stats for

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BYU's defense, to be like, oh, they give up tw

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hundred fifty six yards on the ground, they must have

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gotten moved around, and that no majority of those, I'd

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say over one hundred and some, maybe more than half,

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were all the outside either quarterback running game stuff or

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the fly sweeps, when in fact, if you tried to

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power us on defense and run right at us, which

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were indicative on the fourth down, we were perfect, you know,

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especially with one yard to go outside of you know,

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all those fourth downs except for there's one that was

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a pass, the other one was the fly sweep that

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bomba chopped the do down before he could get to

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the first down marker, and then the other ones were

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all just straight ahead power runs and we stuffed them.

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could just see that's high level football. And when it

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comes down to that, it comes down to who plays

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the cleanest, and that was us. We played the cleanest.

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they because if you look at like turnovers plus fourth

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us in terms of stolen possessions and turnovers, which, as

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we know ben turnover second to the scorer. Whoever wins

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that battle wins the game in terms of you know,

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I think it's like ninety percent of the time you

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win that turnover, how you're gonna win the game. Where

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I was obviously with the points one hundred percent of

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the time, and he's one more points than your point,

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So it was to me just a real competitive game.

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like back and forth and back and forth, and just

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as as soon as what looked like we were gonna

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get control, they fought back. And as soon as they

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looked like we were gonna get control, you know, or

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they got control excuse me, early that fourth quarter, to boom,

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we fight back and it was just back and forth.

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end there to pull ahead by playing cleaner, didn't relinquish

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the lead, and ended up.

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Speaker 5: Similar Brady three in a row.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he's a nice winning streak for Kilani and this

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Cougar football team. What like staves out to you about

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the last three years. Why is it that BYU finally

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winning this robbery game?

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Speaker 4: Excellent question. I think we have to we have to

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really acknowledge this. So if you go back to when

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when did when did Utah start in the PAC twelve

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around twenty ten?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so then they rattled off nine in a

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row against US, right. The biggest reason why they were

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able to do that is because they had more resources.

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coaching staff was making, they were having they had more

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resources to recruit. They were getting a lot better players,

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higher quality players across the board. I'm not saying like

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the best players, but in terms of depth. You know,

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you brought up you know, Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glaski,

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like we have depth now. And so what has happened

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is is over that nine streak. You know, I have

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to bring that up to fully help understand this latest

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streak is over that nine game streak where they were winning.

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teams that were on the same part in terms of resources,

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recruiting the whole thing. And you could sense that, you

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could sense that Utah had an advantage there. They were,

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you know, constantly either contending or winning Pacto championships, and

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yet we played them tough. You know, you look at

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most the majority of those games, they were all one

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score games, came down to field goals that were missed,

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you know, those kinds of things. Now, guess what, we

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have the same resources they have, We have the same talent.

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the man, it would be really hard to go out

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and ham pick a coaching staff this good that BYU has.

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we had a good coaching staff that went to Virginia.

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Well sure, but a lot of those guys too, they

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didn't have the players.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have this this vast talent pool that now

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BYU has. And so now that you see kind of

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like things have drawn even with resources, talent, you know,

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coaching overall. Now what you're seeing is is you're saying,

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and it's kind of a natural thing, I would say,

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because back when I you know, when I was growing up,

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and it was different when I played, But when I

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was growing up in Utah was always always looked at

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as kind of the second option. And I do believe that,

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you know that Utah took exception of that. You know,

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guys like a Morgan Scalley, he never had a chance

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to go to Buya Uy. You never would offer him,

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you know, and he probably really wanted to go, and

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that really bit him and really like hurt him to

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where he's like, hey, any chance I have against Yu.

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and that we are as good as they, you know,

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they don't think we are basically. And so there's and

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I think that's kind of coming back where Utah is not.

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It's not private school. They just don't have some advantages

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that we have at Buyu, you know. So, and it's

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not a knock against Utah, it's just the nature of

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the state run college versus a privately owned one. And

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we could go down the list of all the government

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run entities versus privately owned entities, and you could probably

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show how much more effective and efficient the privately owned

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equity entities a RAN than a government one, you know,

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and that's just kind of the nature of it. So

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long as we have the same resources, the same talent pool,

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that YU is gonna have a little bit of an

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advantage on UTAH. And like I said, that's kind of

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the nature of the two institutions. And that's okay. But

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at the same time, it doesn't mean we're gonna win

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every single year. It'll still continue to be competitive, but

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if there's going to be a small edge, it probably

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is with BYU, and we'll see if that leads to complacency,

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you know, because when you kind of have that ship

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on the shoulder between quotations or that one that's kind

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of feeling at a little left out, you know, you

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come with a little bit more urgency. Which there was

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a time too where, you know, especially in my years,

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our teams did not look at this game as critically

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as I think teams of today do because it was

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kind of like, you know, what, if we win, great,

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it doesn't really registered to us. So the point is,

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like the reason why it is shifted from nine wins

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from Utah from now is simply resources talent pool is

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equaled out. And like I said, when you have a

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government run entity up against a privately run entity that's

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run well, we all know that those privately run entities

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tend to operate more efficiently, more optimly. And that's and

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that's just how it's going to be. And that's okay.

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Speaker 5: Check this stat out.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham is eleven and six all time against the

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BYU Cougar's as head coach for the Utes. When b

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YU and Utah are in the same conference, Kyle Whittingham

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is three and five against the Cougars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, Kyle's a hell of a coach, man.

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I really loved I loved his dad by the way,

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his dad coached some of my coaches, and I just

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I just love his competitiveness. I love his like rough

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round the edge kind of mentality. And I really hope

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there's a day that at BYU we can we can

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acknowledge him somehow in the lexicon of great b YU

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football players that went on to do great DYU are

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just great things in the football space. Because he's a

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leges steric coach. He's highly respected throughout the country and

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and I don't I don't really care in my opinion

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if he like you know, he kind of like reciprocates,

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I think we to you know, latterly, it isn't when

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he events and he's going to retire here in the

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next few years. I would imagine he has every right

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to retire on his own terms, by the way, as

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he's still producing you know, really good football teams. But

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we really need to do something for him at b

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YU because you know, by U is not b YU

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today or even at that time, and where it was

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really a setting without the winning hands, and there needs

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to be an acknowledgment of that. I mean, I i'd

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like to see maybe you know, I'm not saying, like

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make a statue, but there needs to be something, you know,

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within the lexicon and the the history and the the

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there even though that he's with Utah, he's had a

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huge I mean, look at our coaching staff, Kilane Jay

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the list all these guys that were impacted and didn't

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so positive simply fine Kyle, and then Kyle goes all

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you know, his full circle, you know, he goes and

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east he hires Jason Beck. I mean that offense, you guys.

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run against US and has been running this year is

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a b YU offense. And that's that originates all the

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way back in the eighties. That's a that's an air

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raid offense by Mike Leach that has over time evolved

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having a heavy quarterback running scheme to him. But that's

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a West Coast offense. The plays, how he how he died,

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did he's up, the plays, how he calls the plays.

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you know, I just I just think that there's a

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there's a great connection there that we need to celebrate somehow,

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some way. You know, Kyle Waitning half from a BYU perspective,

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I we got to figure out a way to celebrate

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his influence, just as like a guy that went to

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BYU and then on made a huge impact in in

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college football. It's football overall. As a matter of fact,

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like I said, him and his dad of crazy connections

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and networking throughout all the ranks of football, both profet

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football and in the college. So if anybody has any ideas,

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a statue of them, I think would be fun. Or

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name a building afterim. How about that you get some

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cool building. It's like a maybe you have like an

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alumni organization area and you name it like the Witting

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Hand Offices or something. I think that would be phenomenal.

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And like I said, he doesn't have to reciprocate or

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even like it, but it would be great to honor him,

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you know, as a BYU alum that has gone on

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to do phenomenal things.

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Speaker 2: I think you're I think that would be very kilani esque, right.

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I think that would be the right thing to do.

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not like that idea though, because of the form and

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fashion which Kyle has treated the robbery BYU BYU fans

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over the years.

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Speaker 4: And I get it and I understand that, but also

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I just look at it, like, for example, I can

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just have so much more empathy now because Jason was

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my teammate, you know, even though like you know, he's

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he's with Utah now, and you know, Kelly and I

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were talking on the islander of the game. We're like, man,

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his offense drinking tough to stop, Holy smokes. I mean

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he you know, he had all these cool little nuances

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and and I just was proud of him, you know.

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I just was like, man, I'm so proud that I

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was his teammate, you know. And then I started leaving Codd.

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I was like, dude, Kyle's like our teammate, you know.

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you know, thirty years, forty years, however, well you know,

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and so it's like, you know, you kind of start

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to put things into perspective and you realize that we

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all were kind of you know, we're all in that

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same spot where we we we had the YU impacked us.

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on elsewhere, like that needs to be celebrated, you know,

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because at the end of the day, whether we weren't

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accepted or not, Klannie or excuse me, Kyle, is a

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function of the U football. When you see at Utah

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would never have happened or would never happened if he

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never would have gone to b YU if he never

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would have had his dad learning under coach, winning coach

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at and so it's it all goes back to that

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origin point of BYU football. And so it's like even

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though it's a different team arrival, it's still and it

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still goes well and reflects well for BYU because that's

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you know what basically made that happen and brought you

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talk to where it is today.

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Speaker 2: Graaty ppinga here on ESPN the Fan, let's highlight some

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of the individual performances from this BAYU Coogan football team.

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Offensively defensively what stood at to you from the personnel

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Speaker 4: Oh dude, I thought Offensively, it was a beautiful work

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of art man. We pounded them inside and you I mean,

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and look their D line played hard man John henry Man,

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he's a stud. Finos a stud or two interior guys.

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You're tough. But they were missing ton of loss at

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big time. We were moving. I mean, if you turn

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on that film, we weren't tossing offensive line, tossing their

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interior defensive line just out of it, right. I haven't

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seen a Utah defensive line beat it like they weren't

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dominated and overwhelmed per se, but they were moved Like

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I haven't. I haven't remembered a Utah defensive line being moved.

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I'm trying to remember the exact point where you could

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just see, Oh, it's where where we scored that touchdown.

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you you can just see it in the body language

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of Utah's defensive front that they knew that no matter what,

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that inside zone they could not stop it. They just

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and and Roderick was so freaking phenomenal. I was so

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camp for him because that inside zone was working so well.

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do not And he didn't. He ran it like three

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or four times in a row where he's just and

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we were popping three four or five six foot he

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pop with, you know. And then and then when we

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got to that that situation where Bear ran it, I

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was like, dude, run that QB draw because it's basically

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a QB draw is basically an inside zone, but you're

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faking like you're passing. It's the same concept. And man,

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those dudes blocked that up beautifully. So again the offensive

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line was just phenomenal. And then you know, Bear was

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was phenomenal himself. I mean the throw to freaking Chase

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for that first touchdown was like, I mean, I'm not

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gonna put him and he's not Aaron Rodgers, you know,

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or far But that's exactly what those guys do. When

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you're in Manda Man and it's like you're on an island.

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You throw the ball at the head of the Manda

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Man cover guy because you know he's not gonna turn

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around in time, especially when you're on the same page

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with your receiver, and that's gonna give your receiver actually

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the best chance on the back shoulder or the ball

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just sipping past his year for you know, a complete

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and that's exactly what happened as a phenomenal play. I mean,

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he's not throwing because a lot of people don't realize,

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like he's not throwing the Chase like, oh, Chase is open,

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I'm gonna throw it to him. No, no, no, he

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sees Oh it's Manda Man. We know it's Manda Man.

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I am throwing it right at the dude's head expecting

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chase to make a play. Basically, he's throwing him open,

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you know, and that's like that takes a lot of

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guts and it takes precision from a young quarterback to

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do that. So that was you know, he was he

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was subtle mounts man like his running is throwing was awesome.

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And then defensively man like our front guys play their

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butts off because it's hard. Man, when you're getting dashed

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like we were on those fly sweep some of the

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quarterback runs and we're getting down with our goal on

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like right behind us, there's a time there some guys

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are just like, you know what, man, we can't stop

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him to day, and they kind of just let their

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guard dead a little bit. Our guys didn't do that.

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I mean, the most impressive stat to me is one

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for five and fourth down. I mean that Will is

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crazy because it's so easy to allow all the other

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previous plays to then basically dictate to you and your

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confidence and in your mentality like, Okay, we couldn't stop

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him in those previous ones, how are we going to

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stop him now?

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Speaker 5: How would? Sorry? Are you cut out for a second there, Brady?

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I apologize, No worries, man, but I was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just depressed with the front guys, the

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resiliency on defense and on our ability offensively to run

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the ball. And like I said, Roderick was just right

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on the money with his play calling.

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Speaker 2: How impressive is Bear Bachmeire in his toughness. That was

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a knockout punch that he sustained from Landerbarton. It went

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right to the jaw. When you get hitting the jaw

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like that, that's different than getting hit like anywhere else

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in the helmet sometimes, like to me, the back of

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the head is where you get kind of like you

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get knocked out a lot.

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Speaker 5: You hit the back of your head somehow.

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Speaker 2: And then a hit to the John like that, He

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bounced up from that like a like a heavyweight boxer.

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Speaker 5: This kid's tough as nails.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that's not even the hardest that he took.

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I don't know if you saw the hit where John

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Henry came zipping around the edge. That a little heavy

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hand swipe on our left tackle. It just blasted show

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the right to the ribs of Bear, and Bear completed

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the past. But you can see he's getting up a

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little slow, and so yeah, I mean his toughness is phenopal.

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I mean, that's what makes him, in my opinion, special

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is he's he's he's willing to play with some discomfort

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and he functions at a high level. Some guys, as

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soon as they get uncomfortable, it's like they can't think straight.

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is feeling sorry for themselves and that they're hurt, and

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then they're playing really diminishes. You know, that doesn't happen

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with Beart. He knows that, hey, I got a job,

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I got an objective to achieve. It doesn't matter if

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I feel good, if I'm not feeling good, if I'm

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in discomfort, I'm gonna I'm gonna achieve that objective. And

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he does it day and the day up said.

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Speaker 3: He's big.

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Speaker 4: You know, his thick body helps in those situations because

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like I mean, even that run, that that that touchdown

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run he had on that draw play, I mean, he's

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dragging dudes into the dance. I don't know if you

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guys huffer number twenty three for Util, he dragged him

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three yards and obviously he had help, but uh, his

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big body, man, it helps. And then on top of it,

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his toughness is what ultimately sets him up for the

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most amount of success, because yeah, it's not easy. It's

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not easy when you're banged up in discomfort kind of store,

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dealing with pain to go out perform at a high level.

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And this wasn't the only night he did it. He

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did it against Arizona, he did against you. He's he's

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been doing it all year and he's he's only gonna

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get better. Man, He's getting more comfortable too. I don't

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I don't think people realize that when he's throwing the ball,

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he's way different now than he was even two three

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weeks ago. And I'm sure after this game, with the

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high level of competitiveness, he's even gonna be more comfortable,

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which that only bodes well for us in.

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Speaker 5: Him binga here on ESPN the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Couple less things, Brady, as we wrap up this segment,

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where does b YU go from here? And can they

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continue this positive momentum on the road? Are they healthy enough?

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Can they win on the road versus Iowa State and

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continue this momentum?

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Speaker 3: View thing?

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Speaker 4: Hey man, we got depth, Like that's the one thing

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that I want to tell everybody. We got guys. Okay,

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if we got to go in there without Glasgow, without Jack,

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I am not feeling like whoa, But look, we got

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some their playmakers. There will be a drop off, but

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we got guys that can come in and do good

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things and keep things afloat, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I and I and I think that's, like I said,

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one of the big reality is now with how talented

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overall our teammates and the development of the young guys.

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with with these kids that are we are willing to develop.

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But yeah, I mean the fact that we run the

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ball and can stop the runs so well that's been

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in like people realize, like that is the golden like

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standard and the sweet spot for any team and any

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level of football, because it travels, it performs well in

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poor weather. It's your equalizer if you're playing against the

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team that may be more talented or athletic. And then

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ultimately what it is, it's a it's a it's a

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function to where you're able to then set up all

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your other stuff, you know, and the fact that we

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do those as good as anybody within our league. I

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believe there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to

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go up to Iowa State. Establish our physical presence, make plays,

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make life really hard for you know, rock go up there.

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That kids a heck of a player. By the way,

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offensive line is scrappy. They got some skill guys too.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I just I think our defense are excuse me, our

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offense should control their defense quite a bit. But but yeah,

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there's no reason why this should not travel well, you know,

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especially this week up to Ames Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Rady ppinga ladies and gentlemen, be pop always a pleasure man.

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Speaker 2: Brady, butpinga, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much, Brady, appreciate

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your time today.

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Speaker 4: Brother, always a classic Ben, Good luck to bro Hope

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Speaker 2: I just keep on pounding the electrolytes, the the beverages

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Speaker 5: John, How was your weekend?

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Speaker 3: It was great, man. I got to sneak up to

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Provo and be at the game, so it was awesome.

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Spin a whiles and say, you know, I get to

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go to games there usually later in the season when

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it's freezing cold, but because of some playoff movement and

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bye weeks and all of that down here, I got

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to land at five o'clock hopping an uber with the family,

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get to the stadium about thirty minutes before kickoff, and

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it was great.

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Speaker 5: Did you celebrate in the locker room with the team

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as well?

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Speaker 3: No, I just we kind of stood. I mean, you

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know how those games go, like you bump into people,

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you know, and you're staying with stuff to people, and

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it was a I was actually standing with Bear's dad

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throughout the whole fourth quarter and just trying to calm

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him down. And yeah, you know, but it was great

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to see. It was cool for my kids to see

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and often do a U moment like that. And you know,

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it was funny. As we were making our way kind

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of like through the crowd to get out the stadium,

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Bear like hop the fence to come and say hi

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to his family, and he was trying to make his

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way out, and so I got to kind of just

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tuck to Bear for a little bit and help him

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get through the crowd to find the locker room. So

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it was cool. I'm super happy for that kid.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: He's playing so well and he's helping this team do

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with the you know, their goal has been the whole time.

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You know, I see that this team had their site

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set on a special season and Bear has been brought

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into the mix and he's done what they've needed and

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he's made some critical plays and critical moments and really

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helped the team. And it's been cool to watch this

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team accomplishing their goals so far this year.

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Speaker 2: John, I've known you for a long time. I describe

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you as an optimistic pragmatist. And so when you're seeing

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this team go seven to zero with a true freshman

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quarterback and Bear Bachmeier, is it a surprise to you.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I would say, It's been. Nothing surprises me

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with like certain people that I know. You know, Bear

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has always been really good with his feet. So many

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times throughout his high school career it was his feet

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that extended drives, that extended plays that I mean, he

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did that to us back to back years. I mean

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they one time went forward on a two point conversion

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to win the game and they just put it on

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Bear's back and ran in. And so, you know, it

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doesn't surprise me to see Bear playing the way that

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he is. This is this is his style of play.

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It's always been his style of play.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I think is really cool is that

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you have somebody that just got to the program pretty

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much in June. I know that he started working on

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the playbook with coach Mitchell as soon as everything was

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kind of went down, but he had to finish up

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some stuff to be able to get everything done to

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get over to Provot. So the remarkable thing is how

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good he's doing with leading an offense in terms of

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getting them in and out of the right plays, with

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not having these like you know, freshman turnover type you know,

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happening over and over. Like he's just played down football.

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Like I knew what this team believed in because of

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the coaches and the relationship I have with them and

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hearing what they believed. So it's like, I think everybody

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believed that this was going to be a year. You know,

627
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you look at the front end of the schedule Okay,

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we should absolutely head into the tougher Big Twelve games

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and this Utah game with a very high chance of

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being undefeated. So that part did not surprise me, being

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undefeated going into this game. I think the part that

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has been so great to see is that the Arizona

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game they needed to find a way to win, and

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they did in this game. I mean, it is amazing

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that the defense stepped up on that many fourth downs,

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Like usually if a team goes for on that many

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fourth downs, the chances of them getting won. And I

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know that that's probably what Utah was talking about on

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their sidelines. We have already gone for it this many

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times and not gotten it. It has to give somewhere,

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it has to give, and for BYU to step up

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like that, like that's been the part for me, Like wow,

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in these close games, this is what you can't see unfolding.

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But BYU has found a way in the tight games

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to make the plays that they need to remain undefeated.

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Speaker 2: What stood out to you about this particular game a

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rivalry game that came down to the wire. But b

648
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Yu was at times comfortable in this game, other times

649
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not so comfortable. Twenty four to twenty one victory. What

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were some of the key plays, key components of the

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win do you think for the Kops?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think no turnovers. If you look at what

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happened with the University of Utah to have two turnovers

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in the game, an offensive turnover, a special team's turnover,

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and then to give up points and try to go

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forward on fourced down. All of those plays, you know,

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aside from the big time plays that were made on

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our offensive side of the ball, but you look at

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those those are critical plays in a rivalry game. Like

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I'm sure there's a statistic out there of turnovers in

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YU Utah games and the amount of times that the

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team that doesn't turn the ball over or turns the

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ball over least has the highest probability of winning, you know.

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And I think that that was a huge part. To

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have a freshman quarter and I know that the interception

666
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like there was you know, holding thing, but it doesn't

667
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count to not turn the ball over with a young

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quarterback in a rattery game. I mean, it's awesome. And

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I think that when I look at outside of the offense,

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which I know we'll talk about in a little bit,

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those to me are the key components of why Doiu

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was able to win this football game.

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Speaker 5: As far as Bear is concerned.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen completions, twenty two attempts under sixty six yards, sixty

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percent almost sixty percent completion percent in one touchdown, zero

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I and t's. He had a long of thirty two,

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He was sacked a few times, got hit by these

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Utah defense many times, eleven carry sixty four yards five

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point eight yards per carry, one touchdown, and then he

680
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had that long of twenty two on that quarterback keeper

681
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that that draw play. It was a tremendous performance from

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from the true freshman. What stood out to you specifically

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about Bear, Well.

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Speaker 3: I thought he did a really good job. You know,

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like those sacks they would they would, they were smart sacks,

686
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like he knew that nothing was there. He didn't try

687
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to force anything. It's at times when you try to

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do too much in a big game because you you know,

689
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you want to make a play that sometimes that can

690
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get away from you and you can be attempting to

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throw a ball right as you're being pulled down and

692
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now your accuracy is hinder or the ball, you know,

693
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flutters up in the air and gets intercepted and he was.

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He was really smart about that. There really was only

695
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one that I bet when he goes back on tape

696
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and watches it, he probably like, you know what, I

697
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probably could have cut that one loose. But I thought

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he did a really good job of managing of just

699
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like throwing guys open. He had a really really good

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scramble he had to kind of step up in the

701
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pocket off of that little play action that he stepped up,

702
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moved to his right and threw on the run. Did

703
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a great job of really throwing the guy open. And

704
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I think Carson Ryan did a great job of feeling it,

705
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throttling kind of reaching behind him and making the play

706
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like that's a really savvy throw right there. And you

707
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,880
know you can't do that to every tight end that

708
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you have. Some Titans don't have that capability. But I

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just like Bear's decision making. Again. I you know, if

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00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:08,039
you watch how Bear has played before, Byu, Byu has

711
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:11,320
done such a good job of kind of utilizing and

712
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,000
emulating the style of play that Bear has so many

713
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,840
reps in. You see some of these zone reads options

714
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,519
where he's attacking. You know, he he pulls because the

715
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,960
incomes crashing and then he's optioning off the next defender

716
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:28,760
with either a throw or him running up field. That

717
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,280
was a staple part of his offense. The QB draws

718
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,280
staple part of his offense, QB power stable part of

719
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,159
his offense. You know, getting into the right play against

720
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,559
man coverage. I mean, knowing when to take shots and

721
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,079
when not to when the outlet having a great feel.

722
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,840
You know, you look at the play to Preston Rex

723
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,639
and Preston Rex is the outlet on the other side

724
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:52,400
of the field, and Bear could feel stix players over too.

725
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,840
And you know, if you pause it right before he

726
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,000
flips his hips, they literally have one defender to that

727
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,039
side of the field. If you split the field in

728
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,239
half and we have a blocker out in front of Preston,

729
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,639
just that innate feel for space, and I think it's

730
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,360
just it's so much resembles kind of where his where

731
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,719
his experiences come. And so they've done such a good

732
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,679
job of creating a game plan where he's not being

733
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,159
asked to play differently from where his experience is. And

734
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,360
that's why you know, early on, you know, just see

735
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,239
what you was a good fit with what a rad

736
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,079
does and it's just great to see it play out

737
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:29,880
that way. And you know the other other part too,

738
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,960
is that guy is so nimble with his feet and

739
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,079
I know that like you know, I mean, you don't

740
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,239
really see bears. They're not known for nibble for their feet,

741
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,400
but this bear is. You know, he does such a

742
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,320
good job. You watch how he picks his feet up

743
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,000
and he avoids tacklers and so so many times he's

744
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,880
jumping over their hands. And that big touchdown run that

745
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,119
he had at the end for two hundred and twenty

746
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:52,199
pounds to be running up field and to kind of

747
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,679
slow down in a small enough space to then kind

748
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,960
of pick his feed up on a little jump and

749
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,760
he just look how many people go at his legs

750
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,960
and feet and he just like skips over their hands

751
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,079
and then he picks up more yards. I mean, that

752
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,079
is just so unique for a guy that big lower

753
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:11,519
body to be that that that nimble as well as

754
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:11,960
a runner.

755
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, the right handed.

756
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: Centaur that that plays like Tim Tebow, right, he's a

757
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,159
better throwing Tim Tebow.

758
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,519
Speaker 5: John.

759
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's really cool again to

760
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,679
see you know, you have to really tip your hat

761
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,679
to a rod and just say you are utilizing this

762
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,400
kid the right way. And I think that's why it's working.

763
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,079
People are like, you know, man, it's amazing to see

764
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:41,000
a freshman step in and and like do what he's doing.

765
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:44,880
And it's awesome because of the fit DYU has really

766
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719
good pieces around him. The run game is working. I mean,

767
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,360
how how many yards the day you rush for? It

768
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,239
had to be too.

769
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 5: Yep, just just just a hair over two hundred, I think.

770
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, And how Bear fits into that run game compliments.

771
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,519
You know, if I look at years pass like last

772
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:04,880
year with Jake Redslav, you would see Jake utilized here

773
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:07,280
there in the run game, you would see him utilize

774
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,000
the option game with Jake, like Jake was capable of

775
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:13,239
doing some of these things where what Bear ads is

776
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,559
that element of you know, taking guys on, running through tacklers.

777
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,119
Jake was also a passer and he had to you know,

778
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,000
he weighed two hundred and ten pounds. He had to

779
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:26,519
be smarter about the contact, you know. There. I had

780
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:28,000
a number of people be like, wait, what do you

781
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,800
think is going to happen if Bear keeps carrying the

782
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,360
ball this much? I mean, I don't know. I know

783
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,719
that we would be disappointed if something did happen, But

784
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,280
to this point, the kid's been carrying the ball a

785
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,039
ton and he still gets up and continues to play,

786
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,039
And like I said, that's that's I think what Byu

787
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,039
saw him being utilized as, especially late in games, and

788
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,679
his ability to take off with his legs light in

789
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,199
games has just been such a good fit for Bou.

790
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:58,679
Speaker 2: John Beck three d QB here on ESPN The Fan

791
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,000
discussing the win over the University of Utah twenty four

792
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:06,079
twenty one and what led to that? You mentioned obviously

793
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:09,679
the turnovers. The fact that b Yu forced a few

794
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,840
turnovers I thought was pretty awesome. One was some would

795
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:19,599
say it was unforced, but on the on the punt,

796
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,760
But per Kyle Whittingham in the post game, he said

797
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,559
his punt returners felt that the ball was floating and

798
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:27,960
then all of a.

799
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,679
Speaker 5: Sudden it just dropped and he was just trying to

800
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,199
feel it.

801
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,599
Speaker 2: That that speaks to maybe Sam Vanderhar's little drop kick

802
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,039
that he puts a little bit of extra spin on

803
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:40,639
it in order to just kind of plummet to the gridiron.

804
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: Oh y, look, the one thing that nobody knows is

805
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,440
is there anything going on strategically? Where I have been

806
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:54,840
in situations where on teams, the special team coach will

807
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,920
get up and say, there may be a time this

808
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,239
game that we use a little bit more of our

809
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,599
pooch style kick in a situation where they would be

810
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,800
expecting us to drive it down the field because of

811
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,760
the way that they match our guys running down the

812
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,039
field that they don't have eyes on the ball. And

813
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:17,480
it sounds silly to chance it, but there are absolutely

814
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,880
situations where sometimes teams take a chance that maybe it

815
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,559
can hit the receiving team before they can recover it.

816
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,639
And I have seen teams practice a man on you

817
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,599
and as you're gunning down the field or as you're

818
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:35,239
running to get to the punt returner, you are trying

819
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,000
to find eyes towards the ball of where it might drop,

820
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,880
trying to run your guy into a shorter kick. And

821
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,800
so look, I'm not sure if you hit it perfectly

822
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,559
how he wanted and he played a ball that was

823
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:48,519
going to drop short, or if it just happened that way,

824
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:52,159
But there are situations that teams, you know, try to

825
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,800
create a play where it can either make the guy

826
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:57,360
run in or it can hit another person on the

827
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:57,960
return team.

828
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,519
Speaker 2: John, I want to bring down probably my There's been

829
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:07,039
two favorite throws from Bear Bachmeier for me this year.

830
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,800
The one was to Carson Ryan right at the at

831
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,840
the like at the pole of the crossbar, right and

832
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:19,920
and the uprights, and it was incomplete, but it was

833
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,960
just a dime intended pass, I want to say, Game

834
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:24,360
two or Game three.

835
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 5: And it was dropped right, but he was just yeah, yeah,

836
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:31,760
the stick.

837
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: Oh it was.

838
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,039
Speaker 5: It was a ball. It was beautiful, It was poetry.

839
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,079
The other one was this Chase roberts Uh.

840
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,119
Speaker 2: It was a line drive on a rope right over

841
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:46,039
the top of the head very quick, like over the

842
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:49,480
top of the head of the defensive back where only

843
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,840
Chase could get it.

844
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:54,079
Speaker 5: And that that's an unguardable throw.

845
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: Everyone says back shoulders are unguardable to a certain degree,

846
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,840
They're right, okay, but that was unguardable for any defensive back.

847
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,599
Speaker 5: In my opinion.

848
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,039
Speaker 2: Could you take us through what maybe Bear was trying

849
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:09,760
to do on that ball and how from a quarterback

850
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,119
stamp out, how maybe difficult that is to get that

851
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,559
trajectory on the line and have your wide receiver catch it.

852
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: Well, there obviously has to be some history together, there

853
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,960
has to be some chemistry because of feeling that that

854
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,559
is a winnable place, right and you trust the guy

855
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:27,360
to throw the ball there. A lot of people think, hey,

856
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:31,039
press fade, let me get the ball up and let

857
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,440
me drop it in the bucket a little bit further

858
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:35,360
back in the end zone. And that's not a wrong

859
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:39,320
throw either. I'm going to actually utilize Aaron Rodgers. Okay,

860
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,800
So when Zach spent some time around Aaron in New York,

861
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:49,320
one of the things that Aaron believed was getting the

862
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,800
ball up and down faster. When your guy beats a

863
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,199
guy press off the ball, get the ball to him

864
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:59,039
a little bit quicker, and just throw it right above

865
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,239
his head and get the ball on because when he

866
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,079
beats him off the line, that's that space that he's

867
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,920
already won and his back is to you. And if

868
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,719
you put air on it, now that defender gets to

869
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,079
run for a little bit chasing, and then he gets

870
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,159
to gets his eyes back. And so again I'm not

871
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,039
saying this is what happened. I'm just saying why you

872
00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:21,280
sometimes see air taking off the ball and driven The

873
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,840
safety wasn't totally towards the hash, but he was moving

874
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,159
that way a little bit. So my guess is there's

875
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:29,519
a history between Bear and Chase of working on those

876
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,920
balls in practice and a lot of times in games,

877
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,119
you don't think about it, you react to it. And

878
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,840
so as Bear kind of slashed that little jet sweep,

879
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,039
I think when he took his eyes to Chase and

880
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:43,320
he thought Chase beat him so quick off the line,

881
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,440
it was a reaction based off of previous experiences of

882
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:49,719
I'm going to get this ball to him now, and

883
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,679
I'm going to throw it just a few feet above

884
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,440
that defender's head and I'm going to put it on

885
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:55,960
a rope so that it gets their wall. The separation

886
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,320
has already happened. And again it's that trust, right. I

887
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,360
guarantee you somewhere in the last few weeks in practice

888
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,719
they probably have a clip that almost looks the exact thing.

889
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:08,639
And that's why there's trust. And you know a lot

890
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,320
of times also when guys stay after these are the

891
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,960
things that you stay after practice working on. You don't

892
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,719
have a ton of reps in practice to Hey, let's

893
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,519
work on all the different looks we can get on

894
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,360
a fade ball. Hey, let's practice that a little bit more.

895
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:23,320
You get the look you get in practice, you do

896
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,599
it and then usually there's a conversation of hey, let's

897
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:28,559
stick around after and let's get a few of those.

898
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,719
And my guess is that they probably have some experiences

899
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,920
out as well. And so I think it's just a

900
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,039
great play that naturally happened between two guys where they

901
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,559
trust each other. And you can tell by Chase the

902
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,480
reaction to the ball. He was not surprised that it

903
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:45,199
got on him that quick. It looked well executed.

904
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:49,519
Speaker 2: We discuss, you know, different verbiage and terminology in football.

905
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,760
It has its own language, right, And so I want

906
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,119
to ask you, what do you guys.

907
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:55,199
Speaker 5: What do you call that throw?

908
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: I traditionally called it one thing, right, but I don't

909
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,679
know what you use in the quarterback room. I called

910
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:03,360
it like a chop top, like you chop off the

911
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,639
kind of the top of the hair, because he's coming

912
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,000
right over the top of the helmet. Chop top throw,

913
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:10,880
because it's coming on a line like a flat top.

914
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,000
But like, what do you guys call it?

915
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,519
Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys call more placement? More

916
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,280
placement you say, like, hey, just take air off and

917
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,840
get it on and quick top show, like he can

918
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,119
get his hands up, top show and you get it

919
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:24,559
on a firm like that.

920
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, top show.

921
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: Happened now, Like a lot of the times, you'll hear

922
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,639
me like I mean, I guess you won't hear me. Sorry,

923
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,440
I talked as if I was talking to like my

924
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,480
quarterbacks on coaching. But you know you can talk about

925
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:36,880
air on a ball, taking air off the ball, adding

926
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,800
air to the ball, the firmness of a throw. This

927
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,280
is now the art of the pass. Being able to

928
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,559
layer a ball that's firm, being able to layer a

929
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,159
ball where you peel a little bit of firmness off

930
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,920
the ball and so it gets there just a titch flower.

931
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,559
Like there's all these different speeds and shapes of throws,

932
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:59,599
and that's why, like as you go up and levels,

933
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:03,800
it's so much like golf, right with trajectory and speed

934
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,199
and shape. And that's why it's truly an art. Like

935
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,480
when you watch some of the best throwers, the Aaron Rodgers,

936
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:14,079
the Matt Stafford's Like, when you see the throws that

937
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:17,719
those guys make, it's it's an art. The pace, the speed,

938
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,760
the location and guides will work on. I want this

939
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,159
back shoulder, I want this top shelf, I want this

940
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:26,760
down in a way right, it almost sounds like a

941
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,320
pitcher pitching out locations on the plate and throwing different

942
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,320
balls of Hey, I'm going to run into his hands,

943
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,639
I'm going to get this to dive away, you know,

944
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,559
like all these different things. I want this to cut

945
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:39,119
back into his heels like. It's very much like that

946
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,920
in throwing also, and that's why the chemistry you can

947
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,079
have with a wide out and the trust that you

948
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:46,719
can have, you literally are throwing a guy open to

949
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,159
his strength with the type of ball you throw.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a few stature as it

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relates to the robbery, John, I wants your your reaction

952
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,639
to him. B YU obviously on a three game winning

953
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,960
streak in the rivalry that hasn't happened since the early nineties.

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00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 5: So that's uh, that's.

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00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:07,159
Speaker 2: Pivotal, right uh all time right where While Kyle Whittingham

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has been the head coach for Utah, Utah is eleven

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and six.

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Speaker 5: But check this out.

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Speaker 2: When BYU and Utah are in the same conference, Kyle

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00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:20,199
Whittingham is three and five in the rivalry game.

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Speaker 5: What stands out to you about all those statistics.

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Speaker 3: When they're in the same conference, they're three and five.

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00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's three and five, so Mountain last from five

964
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,360
to two thousand and ten, it was three and three

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00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:35,599
the last two when BYU is a part of the

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Big twelve and Utah is a part of the Big twelve,

967
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Utah is zero and two.

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Speaker 5: So three and five all time. When BYU and Utah

969
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are in the same.

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Speaker 3: Conference, well that means three wins. They're just the three

971
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beginning of Broncos years. It's the five overtime loss that

972
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,079
we had in Provo, it's the eight fifty five to

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00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,159
whatever they had up in Salt Lake. Oh wait no,

974
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,880
and then there's got to be what was the other one?

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00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,199
Speaker 2: Me O five and five, eight and twenty and ten.

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00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,639
Those are the those are those three wins for him?

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Speaker 3: Oh you know five ten, So one of them is Kalani.

978
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,039
Speaker 2: So so two of Brono No no, no, no, not

979
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:19,639
no no, you're five eight and then two thy and ten,

980
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,880
So twenty twenty four and two thousand, those are the

981
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five games. Those are the games in which you know,

982
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:29,199
you know that that that they're in the same conference

983
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,480
Mounthwest in Big twelve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know what, that's an interesting stet

985
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,960
when they're in the same conference. You know, I wonder

986
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:40,519
how many of those. I know RO five game was

987
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,920
not for conference championship because TCU won the conference championship,

988
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,159
and oh five that that eight game, I think TCU

989
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:50,480
wouldn't that be the Andy Dalton. I think they had

990
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:53,679
the conference championship, So those ones, those two aren't even

991
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,880
for the championship in the conference. It's just playing in

992
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the same one. But I think that's interesting. I wonder

993
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,159
if there's something to do a little bit more more

994
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,559
of like when they play common opponents and you get

995
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:07,320
to I don't know, a common opponent thing of being

996
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,960
able to like gauge more. I mean, here's one thing

997
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,360
that like everybody that prepares in football, when you have

998
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:18,239
common opponents, it helps in preparation. When you are watching

999
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:21,960
so much tape and its opponents that you have not played.

1000
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There's a little bit of I don't know totally how

1001
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,119
to gauge this because it's hard to anticipate or I

1002
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,400
don't totally understand of what that opponent is like. But

1003
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I know me personally as I prepared for games. When

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00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,119
you have a common opponent, it just gives you that

1005
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,679
little bit more understanding. And I wonder if there's something

1006
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,559
too common opponents. But I mean, the one thing I

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will say that we haven't talked about yet was what

1008
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I think was an advantage to BYU, and that was

1009
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playing at home this year. You know that that environment

1010
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,920
there was just so awesome. You know, the fans that

1011
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,519
BUYU have they just do such a good job in

1012
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,800
the state. I think it's unreal what has taken place

1013
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,719
over the last however, many years of having the entire

1014
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,679
stadium in the same color. The atmosphere feels just like

1015
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,079
a pro football game. And then even another level, you

1016
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:16,000
look at how many penalties that Utah had. You look

1017
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at some of the things that were going on, maybe

1018
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like communication with their sideline. It could even be the

1019
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:26,039
pressure of them feeling like we can't settle for field

1020
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:29,000
goals because we have to do something to try to

1021
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,159
get the momentum to our side, because it constantly feels

1022
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,039
like BYU has momentum. BYU's in it because of the fans.

1023
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,000
And I think that that was something as well, like

1024
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that atmosphere has to be a confidence builder when you're

1025
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,000
the home team defensively, offensively, everything. You know, you could

1026
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,960
see the players understood it after big plays. The connection

1027
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,159
between the players and the fans in that stadium was

1028
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so good to see on Saturday.

1029
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,079
Speaker 5: John last thing Trade three DQB.

1030
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Speaker 2: For all those quarterbacks out there looking at to elevate

1031
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,079
their game during the season, how can they get hold

1032
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:03,920
of your team?

1033
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,039
Speaker 5: They're at train three DQB.

1034
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Speaker 3: Same old man. I actually feel bad we're always talking

1035
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:11,719
about the US at the end of the shows, but I.

1036
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,679
Speaker 1: Appreciate you doing it.

1037
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,679
Speaker 3: I mean, same old man. For all these young kids,

1038
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:16,920
guys in high school that want to just continue to

1039
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,639
get better, there's always people working. It's just reach out

1040
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:24,960
to us. Info at Training three DQB dot com. Reach

1041
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,440
out to us by email, you can message us on

1042
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:30,039
our little portal thing that we have online. Just get

1043
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,599
in touch with our coaches, whether it's film, whether it's

1044
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:34,719
on field training, whether it's all those things. There's always

1045
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,559
ways to improve as a quarterback. We got a lot

1046
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,840
of guys around the country that are having some success

1047
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,639
because they were that guy that was hungry, that was

1048
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,280
always looking to get better. And no matter how many

1049
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,440
difficult things you go through as a quarterback, it can

1050
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,360
all be used to your advantage because it's all experienced games.

1051
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:52,599
That's one thing I try to tell all my quarterbacks

1052
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:55,920
tough situations. The more you play this game at quarterback,

1053
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,000
you know you're not always going to be on great teams.

1054
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:00,400
You're always I'm not going to have great offense around

1055
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,719
you are great defenses, and you're gonna play great opponents

1056
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,760
at times, and you're gonna have tough nights where you

1057
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,360
don't feel as accurate. I mean, that's playing the game.

1058
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,800
And so I always say, man, one of the best

1059
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,480
things you can do to help that experience that you're

1060
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,159
gaining and just maximize it is just always be training,

1061
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,480
be hungry to train and improve. And it's one of

1062
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,199
the reasons why I really enjoy what I do is

1063
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,639
because a lot of the kids I work with, a

1064
00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:22,679
lot of the guys I work with, it's the people

1065
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,039
that are always looking to improve.

1066
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Speaker 2: John Beck, ladies and gentlemen. John always appreciate our time together.

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00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:29,280
Thanks so much for joining us once again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are welcome. We'll see it all right.

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