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We got Brady popinga on the line. Be Pop, how
you living?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: How you living?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Sounds like your voice is a little rasky there. Man.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what happens in radio, right. You have
to speak for four hours a day. Uh, when you
get a little cold, All of a sudden, you're like,
oh man, now now got a cough, and now you
never get time to rest.
Speaker 5: Baby.
Speaker 2: I'm just it's like the it's like the calf football season.
No one's ever fully healthy. I'm never fully healthy during
radio season.
Speaker 4: Baby, I don't have to know you toughened it out, man,
way to be to grant it.
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, if Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker could tough
it out, I can continue to tough it out. What
do you make of that game three in a row
now in the Holy War, Brady, what stood out to
you end this game?
Speaker 4: Well, it was very much as I had anticipated, which
is both sides were going to obviously play. I thought
both of us played our best ball of the year
in terms of physicality, execution, and ultimately it just comes
down to I think everybody's really hit this multiple times,
if it's you know, you're hearing the coaches or you know,
anybody analyzing the game. That comes down to turnovers and
then ultimately comes down to the fourth down conversions or
lock thereof for Utah where they're one for five, and
especially how big those were in terms of being at
point blank range of kicking a field goal. Also big
in the sense of being able to handle the inside
running game because if you look at me, like a
lot of people will go to the rushing stats for
BYU's defense, to be like, oh, they give up tw
hundred fifty six yards on the ground, they must have
gotten moved around, and that no majority of those, I'd
say over one hundred and some, maybe more than half,
were all the outside either quarterback running game stuff or
the fly sweeps, when in fact, if you tried to
power us on defense and run right at us, which
were indicative on the fourth down, we were perfect, you know,
especially with one yard to go outside of you know,
all those fourth downs except for there's one that was
a pass, the other one was the fly sweep that
bomba chopped the do down before he could get to
the first down marker, and then the other ones were
all just straight ahead power runs and we stuffed them.
So at the end of it all, I mean, you
could just see that's high level football. And when it
comes down to that, it comes down to who plays
the cleanest, and that was us. We played the cleanest.
We did not turn the ball over, and you know
they because if you look at like turnovers plus fourth
down like conversions, I think we missed on two fourth
down conversions. They missed on four plus or two turnovers,
So it was like a sixth to two advantage. For
us in terms of stolen possessions and turnovers, which, as
we know ben turnover second to the scorer. Whoever wins
that battle wins the game in terms of you know,
I think it's like ninety percent of the time you
win that turnover, how you're gonna win the game. Where
I was obviously with the points one hundred percent of
the time, and he's one more points than your point,
A you're gonna win. So that was the difference, you know.
So it was to me just a real competitive game.
I loved being able to see both sides. It was
like back and forth and back and forth, and just
as as soon as what looked like we were gonna
get control, they fought back. And as soon as they
looked like we were gonna get control, you know, or
they got control excuse me, early that fourth quarter, to boom,
we fight back and it was just back and forth.
And then, like I said, we did enough at the
end there to pull ahead by playing cleaner, didn't relinquish
the lead, and ended up.
Speaker 5: Similar Brady three in a row.
Speaker 2: Uh, he's a nice winning streak for Kilani and this
Cougar football team. What like staves out to you about
the last three years. Why is it that BYU finally
winning this robbery game?
Speaker 4: Excellent question. I think we have to we have to
really acknowledge this. So if you go back to when
when did when did Utah start in the PAC twelve
around twenty ten?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so then they rattled off nine in a
row against US, right. The biggest reason why they were
able to do that is because they had more resources.
They were paying their coaching staff far more then our
coaching staff was making, they were having they had more
resources to recruit. They were getting a lot better players,
higher quality players across the board. I'm not saying like
the best players, but in terms of depth. You know,
you brought up you know, Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glaski,
like we have depth now. And so what has happened
is is over that nine streak. You know, I have
to bring that up to fully help understand this latest
streak is over that nine game streak where they were winning.
They had a so outgune. It really wasn't like two
teams that were on the same part in terms of resources,
recruiting the whole thing. And you could sense that, you
could sense that Utah had an advantage there. They were,
you know, constantly either contending or winning Pacto championships, and
yet we played them tough. You know, you look at
most the majority of those games, they were all one
score games, came down to field goals that were missed,
you know, those kinds of things. Now, guess what, we
have the same resources they have, We have the same talent.
It's not more. We have coach coaching staff. That's to me,
the man, it would be really hard to go out
and ham pick a coaching staff this good that BYU has.
And the reason is is because you pay your guys.
And you may say, well wait, you know what, you know,
we had a good coaching staff that went to Virginia.
Well sure, but a lot of those guys too, they
didn't have the players.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't.
Speaker 4: You didn't have this this vast talent pool that now
BYU has. And so now that you see kind of
like things have drawn even with resources, talent, you know,
coaching overall. Now what you're seeing is is you're saying,
I mean, we're we're taking over, you know, and it's
and it's kind of a natural thing, I would say,
because back when I you know, when I was growing up,
and it was different when I played, But when I
was growing up in Utah was always always looked at
as kind of the second option. And I do believe that,
you know that Utah took exception of that. You know,
guys like a Morgan Scalley, he never had a chance
to go to Buya Uy. You never would offer him,
you know, and he probably really wanted to go, and
that really bit him and really like hurt him to
where he's like, hey, any chance I have against Yu.
We want to really, you know, show that we belong
and that we are as good as they, you know,
they don't think we are basically. And so there's and
I think that's kind of coming back where Utah is not.
It's just it's just not it's it's a state run school.
It's not private school. They just don't have some advantages
that we have at Buyu, you know. So, and it's
not a knock against Utah, it's just the nature of
the state run college versus a privately owned one. And
we could go down the list of all the government
run entities versus privately owned entities, and you could probably
show how much more effective and efficient the privately owned
equity entities a RAN than a government one, you know,
and that's just kind of the nature of it. So
I see this kind of being what it is. As
long as we have the same resources, the same talent pool,
that YU is gonna have a little bit of an
advantage on UTAH. And like I said, that's kind of
the nature of the two institutions. And that's okay. But
at the same time, it doesn't mean we're gonna win
every single year. It'll still continue to be competitive, but
if there's going to be a small edge, it probably
is with BYU, and we'll see if that leads to complacency,
you know, because when you kind of have that ship
on the shoulder between quotations or that one that's kind
of feeling at a little left out, you know, you
come with a little bit more urgency. Which there was
a time too where, you know, especially in my years,
our teams did not look at this game as critically
as I think teams of today do because it was
kind of like, you know, what, if we win, great,
If we don't, We've owned these guys for so long
it doesn't really registered to us. So the point is,
like the reason why it is shifted from nine wins
from Utah from now is simply resources talent pool is
equaled out. And like I said, when you have a
government run entity up against a privately run entity that's
run well, we all know that those privately run entities
tend to operate more efficiently, more optimly. And that's and
that's just how it's going to be. And that's okay.
Speaker 5: Check this stat out.
Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham is eleven and six all time against the
BYU Cougar's as head coach for the Utes. When b
YU and Utah are in the same conference, Kyle Whittingham
is three and five against the Cougars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, Kyle's a hell of a coach, man.
I really loved I loved his dad by the way,
his dad coached some of my coaches, and I just
I just love his competitiveness. I love his like rough
round the edge kind of mentality. And I really hope
there's a day that at BYU we can we can
acknowledge him somehow in the lexicon of great b YU
football players that went on to do great DYU are
just great things in the football space. Because he's a
leges steric coach. He's highly respected throughout the country and
and I don't I don't really care in my opinion
if he like you know, he kind of like reciprocates,
I think we to you know, latterly, it isn't when
he events and he's going to retire here in the
next few years. I would imagine he has every right
to retire on his own terms, by the way, as
he's still producing you know, really good football teams. But
we really need to do something for him at b
YU because you know, by U is not b YU
today or even at that time, and where it was
really a setting without the winning hands, and there needs
to be an acknowledgment of that. I mean, I i'd
like to see maybe you know, I'm not saying, like
make a statue, but there needs to be something, you know,
within the lexicon and the the history and the the
some symbol of their impact of b YU football because
there even though that he's with Utah, he's had a
huge I mean, look at our coaching staff, Kilane Jay
Roderick justin you know, you know, we just go down
the list all these guys that were impacted and didn't
so positive simply fine Kyle, and then Kyle goes all
you know, his full circle, you know, he goes and
east he hires Jason Beck. I mean that offense, you guys.
I hope everybody realizes the offense you saw in Utah
run against US and has been running this year is
a b YU offense. And that's that originates all the
way back in the eighties. That's a that's an air
raid offense by Mike Leach that has over time evolved
having a heavy quarterback running scheme to him. But that's
a West Coast offense. The plays, how he how he died,
did he's up, the plays, how he calls the plays.
It's all West Coast, all BYU stuff. So it's like,
you know, I just I just think that there's a
there's a great connection there that we need to celebrate somehow,
some way. You know, Kyle Waitning half from a BYU perspective,
I we got to figure out a way to celebrate
his influence, just as like a guy that went to
BYU and then on made a huge impact in in
college football. It's football overall. As a matter of fact,
like I said, him and his dad of crazy connections
and networking throughout all the ranks of football, both profet
football and in the college. So if anybody has any ideas,
I think it would be really cool. I mean, do
a statue of them, I think would be fun. Or
name a building afterim. How about that you get some
cool building. It's like a maybe you have like an
alumni organization area and you name it like the Witting
Hand Offices or something. I think that would be phenomenal.
And like I said, he doesn't have to reciprocate or
even like it, but it would be great to honor him,
you know, as a BYU alum that has gone on
to do phenomenal things.
Speaker 2: I think you're I think that would be very kilani esque, right.
I think that would be the right thing to do.
There's gonna be plenty of petty BYU fans that do
not like that idea though, because of the form and
fashion which Kyle has treated the robbery BYU BYU fans
over the years.
Speaker 4: And I get it and I understand that, but also
I just look at it, like, for example, I can
just have so much more empathy now because Jason was
my teammate, you know, even though like you know, he's
he's with Utah now, and you know, Kelly and I
were talking on the islander of the game. We're like, man,
his offense drinking tough to stop, Holy smokes. I mean
he you know, he had all these cool little nuances
and and I just was proud of him, you know.
I just was like, man, I'm so proud that I
was his teammate, you know. And then I started leaving Codd.
I was like, dude, Kyle's like our teammate, you know.
And it's like and then and he's been phenomenal for
you know, thirty years, forty years, however, well you know,
and so it's like, you know, you kind of start
to put things into perspective and you realize that we
all were kind of you know, we're all in that
same spot where we we we had the YU impacked us.
And then whether you're still at the OYU, you've gone
on elsewhere, like that needs to be celebrated, you know,
because at the end of the day, whether we weren't
accepted or not, Klannie or excuse me, Kyle, is a
function of the U football. When you see at Utah
would never have happened or would never happened if he
never would have gone to b YU if he never
would have had his dad learning under coach, winning coach
at and so it's it all goes back to that
origin point of BYU football. And so it's like even
though it's a different team arrival, it's still and it
still goes well and reflects well for BYU because that's
you know what basically made that happen and brought you
talk to where it is today.
Speaker 2: Graaty ppinga here on ESPN the Fan, let's highlight some
of the individual performances from this BAYU Coogan football team.
Offensively defensively what stood at to you from the personnel
or even the play calling of BYU's respective coordinators.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I thought Offensively, it was a beautiful work
of art man. We pounded them inside and you I mean,
and look their D line played hard man John henry Man,
he's a stud. Finos a stud or two interior guys.
You're tough. But they were missing ton of loss at
big time. We were moving. I mean, if you turn
on that film, we weren't tossing offensive line, tossing their
interior defensive line just out of it, right. I haven't
seen a Utah defensive line beat it like they weren't
dominated and overwhelmed per se, but they were moved Like
I haven't. I haven't remembered a Utah defensive line being moved.
And that's why if you look on that last drive, uh,
I'm trying to remember the exact point where you could
just see, Oh, it's where where we scored that touchdown.
What actually is right before the QT draw with Bear there,
you you can just see it in the body language
of Utah's defensive front that they knew that no matter what,
that inside zone they could not stop it. They just
and and Roderick was so freaking phenomenal. I was so
camp for him because that inside zone was working so well.
In my mind, I was like, do not change it,
do not And he didn't. He ran it like three
or four times in a row where he's just and
we were popping three four or five six foot he
pop with, you know. And then and then when we
got to that that situation where Bear ran it, I
was like, dude, run that QB draw because it's basically
a QB draw is basically an inside zone, but you're
faking like you're passing. It's the same concept. And man,
those dudes blocked that up beautifully. So again the offensive
line was just phenomenal. And then you know, Bear was
was phenomenal himself. I mean the throw to freaking Chase
for that first touchdown was like, I mean, I'm not
gonna put him and he's not Aaron Rodgers, you know,
or far But that's exactly what those guys do. When
you're in Manda Man and it's like you're on an island.
You throw the ball at the head of the Manda
Man cover guy because you know he's not gonna turn
around in time, especially when you're on the same page
with your receiver, and that's gonna give your receiver actually
the best chance on the back shoulder or the ball
just sipping past his year for you know, a complete
and that's exactly what happened as a phenomenal play. I mean,
he's not throwing because a lot of people don't realize,
like he's not throwing the Chase like, oh, Chase is open,
I'm gonna throw it to him. No, no, no, he
sees Oh it's Manda Man. We know it's Manda Man.
I am throwing it right at the dude's head expecting
chase to make a play. Basically, he's throwing him open,
you know, and that's like that takes a lot of
guts and it takes precision from a young quarterback to
do that. So that was you know, he was he
was subtle mounts man like his running is throwing was awesome.
And then defensively man like our front guys play their
butts off because it's hard. Man, when you're getting dashed
like we were on those fly sweep some of the
quarterback runs and we're getting down with our goal on
like right behind us, there's a time there some guys
are just like, you know what, man, we can't stop
him to day, and they kind of just let their
guard dead a little bit. Our guys didn't do that.
I mean, the most impressive stat to me is one
for five and fourth down. I mean that Will is
crazy because it's so easy to allow all the other
previous plays to then basically dictate to you and your
confidence and in your mentality like, Okay, we couldn't stop
him in those previous ones, how are we going to
stop him now?
Speaker 5: How would? Sorry? Are you cut out for a second there, Brady?
I apologize, No worries, man, but I was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just depressed with the front guys, the
resiliency on defense and on our ability offensively to run
the ball. And like I said, Roderick was just right
on the money with his play calling.
Speaker 2: How impressive is Bear Bachmeire in his toughness. That was
a knockout punch that he sustained from Landerbarton. It went
right to the jaw. When you get hitting the jaw
like that, that's different than getting hit like anywhere else
in the helmet sometimes, like to me, the back of
the head is where you get kind of like you
get knocked out a lot.
Speaker 5: You hit the back of your head somehow.
Speaker 2: And then a hit to the John like that, He
bounced up from that like a like a heavyweight boxer.
Speaker 5: This kid's tough as nails.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that's not even the hardest that he took.
I don't know if you saw the hit where John
Henry came zipping around the edge. That a little heavy
hand swipe on our left tackle. It just blasted show
the right to the ribs of Bear, and Bear completed
the past. But you can see he's getting up a
little slow, and so yeah, I mean his toughness is phenopal.
I mean, that's what makes him, in my opinion, special
is he's he's he's willing to play with some discomfort
and he functions at a high level. Some guys, as
soon as they get uncomfortable, it's like they can't think straight.
You know, they lose focus. All they can think about
is feeling sorry for themselves and that they're hurt, and
then they're playing really diminishes. You know, that doesn't happen
with Beart. He knows that, hey, I got a job,
I got an objective to achieve. It doesn't matter if
I feel good, if I'm not feeling good, if I'm
in discomfort, I'm gonna I'm gonna achieve that objective. And
he does it day and the day up said.
Speaker 3: He's big.
Speaker 4: You know, his thick body helps in those situations because
like I mean, even that run, that that that touchdown
run he had on that draw play, I mean, he's
dragging dudes into the dance. I don't know if you
guys huffer number twenty three for Util, he dragged him
three yards and obviously he had help, but uh, his
big body, man, it helps. And then on top of it,
his toughness is what ultimately sets him up for the
most amount of success, because yeah, it's not easy. It's
not easy when you're banged up in discomfort kind of store,
dealing with pain to go out perform at a high level.
And this wasn't the only night he did it. He
did it against Arizona, he did against you. He's he's
been doing it all year and he's he's only gonna
get better. Man, He's getting more comfortable too. I don't
I don't think people realize that when he's throwing the ball,
he's way different now than he was even two three
weeks ago. And I'm sure after this game, with the
high level of competitiveness, he's even gonna be more comfortable,
which that only bodes well for us in.
Speaker 5: Him binga here on ESPN the Fan.
Speaker 2: Couple less things, Brady, as we wrap up this segment,
where does b YU go from here? And can they
continue this positive momentum on the road? Are they healthy enough?
Can they win on the road versus Iowa State and
continue this momentum?
Speaker 3: View thing?
Speaker 4: Hey man, we got depth, Like that's the one thing
that I want to tell everybody. We got guys. Okay,
if we got to go in there without Glasgow, without Jack,
I am not feeling like whoa, But look, we got
some their playmakers. There will be a drop off, but
we got guys that can come in and do good
things and keep things afloat, you know.
Speaker 6: And I and I and I think that's, like I said,
one of the big reality is now with how talented
overall our teammates and the development of the young guys.
Speaker 4: Also with the coaching, you know, that helps the coaching
with with these kids that are we are willing to develop.
But yeah, I mean the fact that we run the
ball and can stop the runs so well that's been
in like people realize, like that is the golden like
standard and the sweet spot for any team and any
level of football, because it travels, it performs well in
poor weather. It's your equalizer if you're playing against the
team that may be more talented or athletic. And then
ultimately what it is, it's a it's a it's a
function to where you're able to then set up all
your other stuff, you know, and the fact that we
do those as good as anybody within our league. I
believe there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to
go up to Iowa State. Establish our physical presence, make plays,
make life really hard for you know, rock go up there.
That kids a heck of a player. By the way,
offensive line is scrappy. They got some skill guys too.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I just I think our defense are excuse me, our
offense should control their defense quite a bit. But but yeah,
there's no reason why this should not travel well, you know,
especially this week up to Ames Iowa.
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Speaker 2: Brady, butpinga, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much, Brady, appreciate
your time today.
Speaker 4: Brother, always a classic Ben, Good luck to bro Hope
you so bad or Biggie hey man.
Speaker 2: I just keep on pounding the electrolytes, the the beverages
and uh and then taking cough drops and and day quill.
So I'm I'm gonna fight through a baby. I'm fighting
through it just like Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker.
Speaker 3: Baby, you're a.
Speaker 4: Freaking animal, dude, You're one of those tough suckers out there.
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it's freezing cold, but because of some playoff movement and
bye weeks and all of that down here, I got
to land at five o'clock hopping an uber with the family,
get to the stadium about thirty minutes before kickoff, and
it was great.
Speaker 5: Did you celebrate in the locker room with the team
as well?
Speaker 3: No, I just we kind of stood. I mean, you
know how those games go, like you bump into people,
you know, and you're staying with stuff to people, and
it was a I was actually standing with Bear's dad
throughout the whole fourth quarter and just trying to calm
him down. And yeah, you know, but it was great
to see. It was cool for my kids to see
and often do a U moment like that. And you know,
it was funny. As we were making our way kind
of like through the crowd to get out the stadium,
Bear like hop the fence to come and say hi
to his family, and he was trying to make his
way out, and so I got to kind of just
tuck to Bear for a little bit and help him
get through the crowd to find the locker room. So
it was cool. I'm super happy for that kid.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: He's playing so well and he's helping this team do
with the you know, their goal has been the whole time.
You know, I see that this team had their site
set on a special season and Bear has been brought
into the mix and he's done what they've needed and
he's made some critical plays and critical moments and really
helped the team. And it's been cool to watch this
team accomplishing their goals so far this year.
Speaker 2: John, I've known you for a long time. I describe
you as an optimistic pragmatist. And so when you're seeing
this team go seven to zero with a true freshman
quarterback and Bear Bachmeier, is it a surprise to you.
Speaker 3: Here's what I would say, It's been. Nothing surprises me
with like certain people that I know. You know, Bear
has always been really good with his feet. So many
times throughout his high school career it was his feet
that extended drives, that extended plays that I mean, he
did that to us back to back years. I mean
they one time went forward on a two point conversion
to win the game and they just put it on
Bear's back and ran in. And so, you know, it
doesn't surprise me to see Bear playing the way that
he is. This is this is his style of play.
It's always been his style of play.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: The thing that I think is really cool is that
you have somebody that just got to the program pretty
much in June. I know that he started working on
the playbook with coach Mitchell as soon as everything was
kind of went down, but he had to finish up
some stuff to be able to get everything done to
get over to Provot. So the remarkable thing is how
good he's doing with leading an offense in terms of
getting them in and out of the right plays, with
not having these like you know, freshman turnover type you know,
happening over and over. Like he's just played down football.
Like I knew what this team believed in because of
the coaches and the relationship I have with them and
hearing what they believed. So it's like, I think everybody
believed that this was going to be a year. You know,
you look at the front end of the schedule Okay,
we should absolutely head into the tougher Big Twelve games
and this Utah game with a very high chance of
being undefeated. So that part did not surprise me, being
undefeated going into this game. I think the part that
has been so great to see is that the Arizona
game they needed to find a way to win, and
they did in this game. I mean, it is amazing
that the defense stepped up on that many fourth downs,
Like usually if a team goes for on that many
fourth downs, the chances of them getting won. And I
know that that's probably what Utah was talking about on
their sidelines. We have already gone for it this many
times and not gotten it. It has to give somewhere,
it has to give, and for BYU to step up
like that, like that's been the part for me, Like wow,
in these close games, this is what you can't see unfolding.
But BYU has found a way in the tight games
to make the plays that they need to remain undefeated.
Speaker 2: What stood out to you about this particular game a
rivalry game that came down to the wire. But b
Yu was at times comfortable in this game, other times
not so comfortable. Twenty four to twenty one victory. What
were some of the key plays, key components of the
win do you think for the Kops?
Speaker 3: Well, I think no turnovers. If you look at what
happened with the University of Utah to have two turnovers
in the game, an offensive turnover, a special team's turnover,
and then to give up points and try to go
forward on fourced down. All of those plays, you know,
aside from the big time plays that were made on
our offensive side of the ball, but you look at
those those are critical plays in a rivalry game. Like
I'm sure there's a statistic out there of turnovers in
YU Utah games and the amount of times that the
team that doesn't turn the ball over or turns the
ball over least has the highest probability of winning, you know.
And I think that that was a huge part. To
have a freshman quarter and I know that the interception
like there was you know, holding thing, but it doesn't
count to not turn the ball over with a young
quarterback in a rattery game. I mean, it's awesome. And
I think that when I look at outside of the offense,
which I know we'll talk about in a little bit,
those to me are the key components of why Doiu
was able to win this football game.
Speaker 5: As far as Bear is concerned.
Speaker 2: Thirteen completions, twenty two attempts under sixty six yards, sixty
percent almost sixty percent completion percent in one touchdown, zero
I and t's. He had a long of thirty two,
He was sacked a few times, got hit by these
Utah defense many times, eleven carry sixty four yards five
point eight yards per carry, one touchdown, and then he
had that long of twenty two on that quarterback keeper
that that draw play. It was a tremendous performance from
from the true freshman. What stood out to you specifically
about Bear, Well.
Speaker 3: I thought he did a really good job. You know,
like those sacks they would they would, they were smart sacks,
like he knew that nothing was there. He didn't try
to force anything. It's at times when you try to
do too much in a big game because you you know,
you want to make a play that sometimes that can
get away from you and you can be attempting to
throw a ball right as you're being pulled down and
now your accuracy is hinder or the ball, you know,
flutters up in the air and gets intercepted and he was.
He was really smart about that. There really was only
one that I bet when he goes back on tape
and watches it, he probably like, you know what, I
probably could have cut that one loose. But I thought
he did a really good job of managing of just
like throwing guys open. He had a really really good
scramble he had to kind of step up in the
pocket off of that little play action that he stepped up,
moved to his right and threw on the run. Did
a great job of really throwing the guy open. And
I think Carson Ryan did a great job of feeling it,
throttling kind of reaching behind him and making the play
like that's a really savvy throw right there. And you
know you can't do that to every tight end that
you have. Some Titans don't have that capability. But I
just like Bear's decision making. Again. I you know, if
you watch how Bear has played before, Byu, Byu has
done such a good job of kind of utilizing and
emulating the style of play that Bear has so many
reps in. You see some of these zone reads options
where he's attacking. You know, he he pulls because the
incomes crashing and then he's optioning off the next defender
with either a throw or him running up field. That
was a staple part of his offense. The QB draws
staple part of his offense, QB power stable part of
his offense. You know, getting into the right play against
man coverage. I mean, knowing when to take shots and
when not to when the outlet having a great feel.
You know, you look at the play to Preston Rex
and Preston Rex is the outlet on the other side
of the field, and Bear could feel stix players over too.
And you know, if you pause it right before he
flips his hips, they literally have one defender to that
side of the field. If you split the field in
half and we have a blocker out in front of Preston,
just that innate feel for space, and I think it's
just it's so much resembles kind of where his where
his experiences come. And so they've done such a good
job of creating a game plan where he's not being
asked to play differently from where his experience is. And
that's why you know, early on, you know, just see
what you was a good fit with what a rad
does and it's just great to see it play out
that way. And you know the other other part too,
is that guy is so nimble with his feet and
I know that like you know, I mean, you don't
really see bears. They're not known for nibble for their feet,
but this bear is. You know, he does such a
good job. You watch how he picks his feet up
and he avoids tacklers and so so many times he's
jumping over their hands. And that big touchdown run that
he had at the end for two hundred and twenty
pounds to be running up field and to kind of
slow down in a small enough space to then kind
of pick his feed up on a little jump and
he just look how many people go at his legs
and feet and he just like skips over their hands
and then he picks up more yards. I mean, that
is just so unique for a guy that big lower
body to be that that that nimble as well as
a runner.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the right handed.
Speaker 2: Centaur that that plays like Tim Tebow, right, he's a
better throwing Tim Tebow.
Speaker 5: John.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's really cool again to
see you know, you have to really tip your hat
to a rod and just say you are utilizing this
kid the right way. And I think that's why it's working.
People are like, you know, man, it's amazing to see
a freshman step in and and like do what he's doing.
And it's awesome because of the fit DYU has really
good pieces around him. The run game is working. I mean,
how how many yards the day you rush for? It
had to be too.
Speaker 5: Yep, just just just a hair over two hundred, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And how Bear fits into that run game compliments.
You know, if I look at years pass like last
year with Jake Redslav, you would see Jake utilized here
there in the run game, you would see him utilize
the option game with Jake, like Jake was capable of
doing some of these things where what Bear ads is
that element of you know, taking guys on, running through tacklers.
Jake was also a passer and he had to you know,
he weighed two hundred and ten pounds. He had to
be smarter about the contact, you know. There. I had
a number of people be like, wait, what do you
think is going to happen if Bear keeps carrying the
ball this much? I mean, I don't know. I know
that we would be disappointed if something did happen, But
to this point, the kid's been carrying the ball a
ton and he still gets up and continues to play,
And like I said, that's that's I think what Byu
saw him being utilized as, especially late in games, and
his ability to take off with his legs light in
games has just been such a good fit for Bou.
Speaker 2: John Beck three d QB here on ESPN The Fan
discussing the win over the University of Utah twenty four
twenty one and what led to that? You mentioned obviously
the turnovers. The fact that b Yu forced a few
turnovers I thought was pretty awesome. One was some would
say it was unforced, but on the on the punt,
But per Kyle Whittingham in the post game, he said
his punt returners felt that the ball was floating and
then all of a.
Speaker 5: Sudden it just dropped and he was just trying to
feel it.
Speaker 2: That that speaks to maybe Sam Vanderhar's little drop kick
that he puts a little bit of extra spin on
it in order to just kind of plummet to the gridiron.
Speaker 3: Oh y, look, the one thing that nobody knows is
is there anything going on strategically? Where I have been
in situations where on teams, the special team coach will
get up and say, there may be a time this
game that we use a little bit more of our
pooch style kick in a situation where they would be
expecting us to drive it down the field because of
the way that they match our guys running down the
field that they don't have eyes on the ball. And
it sounds silly to chance it, but there are absolutely
situations where sometimes teams take a chance that maybe it
can hit the receiving team before they can recover it.
And I have seen teams practice a man on you
and as you're gunning down the field or as you're
running to get to the punt returner, you are trying
to find eyes towards the ball of where it might drop,
trying to run your guy into a shorter kick. And
so look, I'm not sure if you hit it perfectly
how he wanted and he played a ball that was
going to drop short, or if it just happened that way,
But there are situations that teams, you know, try to
create a play where it can either make the guy
run in or it can hit another person on the
return team.
Speaker 2: John, I want to bring down probably my There's been
two favorite throws from Bear Bachmeier for me this year.
The one was to Carson Ryan right at the at
the like at the pole of the crossbar, right and
and the uprights, and it was incomplete, but it was
just a dime intended pass, I want to say, Game
two or Game three.
Speaker 5: And it was dropped right, but he was just yeah, yeah,
the stick.
Speaker 4: Oh it was.
Speaker 5: It was a ball. It was beautiful, It was poetry.
The other one was this Chase roberts Uh.
Speaker 2: It was a line drive on a rope right over
the top of the head very quick, like over the
top of the head of the defensive back where only
Chase could get it.
Speaker 5: And that that's an unguardable throw.
Speaker 2: Everyone says back shoulders are unguardable to a certain degree,
They're right, okay, but that was unguardable for any defensive back.
Speaker 5: In my opinion.
Speaker 2: Could you take us through what maybe Bear was trying
to do on that ball and how from a quarterback
stamp out, how maybe difficult that is to get that
trajectory on the line and have your wide receiver catch it.
Speaker 3: Well, there obviously has to be some history together, there
has to be some chemistry because of feeling that that
is a winnable place, right and you trust the guy
to throw the ball there. A lot of people think, hey,
press fade, let me get the ball up and let
me drop it in the bucket a little bit further
back in the end zone. And that's not a wrong
throw either. I'm going to actually utilize Aaron Rodgers. Okay,
So when Zach spent some time around Aaron in New York,
one of the things that Aaron believed was getting the
ball up and down faster. When your guy beats a
guy press off the ball, get the ball to him
a little bit quicker, and just throw it right above
his head and get the ball on because when he
beats him off the line, that's that space that he's
already won and his back is to you. And if
you put air on it, now that defender gets to
run for a little bit chasing, and then he gets
to gets his eyes back. And so again I'm not
saying this is what happened. I'm just saying why you
sometimes see air taking off the ball and driven The
safety wasn't totally towards the hash, but he was moving
that way a little bit. So my guess is there's
a history between Bear and Chase of working on those
balls in practice and a lot of times in games,
you don't think about it, you react to it. And
so as Bear kind of slashed that little jet sweep,
I think when he took his eyes to Chase and
he thought Chase beat him so quick off the line,
it was a reaction based off of previous experiences of
I'm going to get this ball to him now, and
I'm going to throw it just a few feet above
that defender's head and I'm going to put it on
a rope so that it gets their wall. The separation
has already happened. And again it's that trust, right. I
guarantee you somewhere in the last few weeks in practice
they probably have a clip that almost looks the exact thing.
And that's why there's trust. And you know a lot
of times also when guys stay after these are the
things that you stay after practice working on. You don't
have a ton of reps in practice to Hey, let's
work on all the different looks we can get on
a fade ball. Hey, let's practice that a little bit more.
You get the look you get in practice, you do
it and then usually there's a conversation of hey, let's
stick around after and let's get a few of those.
And my guess is that they probably have some experiences
out as well. And so I think it's just a
great play that naturally happened between two guys where they
trust each other. And you can tell by Chase the
reaction to the ball. He was not surprised that it
got on him that quick. It looked well executed.
Speaker 2: We discuss, you know, different verbiage and terminology in football.
It has its own language, right, And so I want
to ask you, what do you guys.
Speaker 5: What do you call that throw?
Speaker 2: I traditionally called it one thing, right, but I don't
know what you use in the quarterback room. I called
it like a chop top, like you chop off the
kind of the top of the hair, because he's coming
right over the top of the helmet. Chop top throw,
because it's coming on a line like a flat top.
But like, what do you guys call it?
Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys call more placement? More
placement you say, like, hey, just take air off and
get it on and quick top show, like he can
get his hands up, top show and you get it
on a firm like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, top show.
Speaker 3: Happened now, Like a lot of the times, you'll hear
me like I mean, I guess you won't hear me. Sorry,
I talked as if I was talking to like my
quarterbacks on coaching. But you know you can talk about
air on a ball, taking air off the ball, adding
air to the ball, the firmness of a throw. This
is now the art of the pass. Being able to
layer a ball that's firm, being able to layer a
ball where you peel a little bit of firmness off
the ball and so it gets there just a titch flower.
Like there's all these different speeds and shapes of throws,
and that's why, like as you go up and levels,
it's so much like golf, right with trajectory and speed
and shape. And that's why it's truly an art. Like
when you watch some of the best throwers, the Aaron Rodgers,
the Matt Stafford's Like, when you see the throws that
those guys make, it's it's an art. The pace, the speed,
the location and guides will work on. I want this
back shoulder, I want this top shelf, I want this
down in a way right, it almost sounds like a
pitcher pitching out locations on the plate and throwing different
balls of Hey, I'm going to run into his hands,
I'm going to get this to dive away, you know,
like all these different things. I want this to cut
back into his heels like. It's very much like that
in throwing also, and that's why the chemistry you can
have with a wide out and the trust that you
can have, you literally are throwing a guy open to
his strength with the type of ball you throw.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a few stature as it
relates to the robbery, John, I wants your your reaction
to him. B YU obviously on a three game winning
streak in the rivalry that hasn't happened since the early nineties.
Speaker 5: So that's uh, that's.
Speaker 2: Pivotal, right uh all time right where While Kyle Whittingham
has been the head coach for Utah, Utah is eleven
and six.
Speaker 5: But check this out.
Speaker 2: When BYU and Utah are in the same conference, Kyle
Whittingham is three and five in the rivalry game.
Speaker 5: What stands out to you about all those statistics.
Speaker 3: When they're in the same conference, they're three and five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's three and five, so Mountain last from five
to two thousand and ten, it was three and three
the last two when BYU is a part of the
Big twelve and Utah is a part of the Big twelve,
Utah is zero and two.
Speaker 5: So three and five all time. When BYU and Utah
are in the same.
Speaker 3: Conference, well that means three wins. They're just the three
beginning of Broncos years. It's the five overtime loss that
we had in Provo, it's the eight fifty five to
whatever they had up in Salt Lake. Oh wait no,
and then there's got to be what was the other one?
Speaker 2: Me O five and five, eight and twenty and ten.
Those are the those are those three wins for him?
Speaker 3: Oh you know five ten, So one of them is Kalani.
Speaker 2: So so two of Brono No no, no, no, not
no no, you're five eight and then two thy and ten,
So twenty twenty four and two thousand, those are the
five games. Those are the games in which you know,
you know that that that they're in the same conference
Mounthwest in Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know what, that's an interesting stet
when they're in the same conference. You know, I wonder
how many of those. I know RO five game was
not for conference championship because TCU won the conference championship,
and oh five that that eight game, I think TCU
wouldn't that be the Andy Dalton. I think they had
the conference championship, So those ones, those two aren't even
for the championship in the conference. It's just playing in
the same one. But I think that's interesting. I wonder
if there's something to do a little bit more more
of like when they play common opponents and you get
to I don't know, a common opponent thing of being
able to like gauge more. I mean, here's one thing
that like everybody that prepares in football, when you have
common opponents, it helps in preparation. When you are watching
so much tape and its opponents that you have not played.
There's a little bit of I don't know totally how
to gauge this because it's hard to anticipate or I
don't totally understand of what that opponent is like. But
I know me personally as I prepared for games. When
you have a common opponent, it just gives you that
little bit more understanding. And I wonder if there's something
too common opponents. But I mean, the one thing I
will say that we haven't talked about yet was what
I think was an advantage to BYU, and that was
playing at home this year. You know that that environment
there was just so awesome. You know, the fans that
BUYU have they just do such a good job in
the state. I think it's unreal what has taken place
over the last however, many years of having the entire
stadium in the same color. The atmosphere feels just like
a pro football game. And then even another level, you
look at how many penalties that Utah had. You look
at some of the things that were going on, maybe
like communication with their sideline. It could even be the
pressure of them feeling like we can't settle for field
goals because we have to do something to try to
get the momentum to our side, because it constantly feels
like BYU has momentum. BYU's in it because of the fans.
And I think that that was something as well, like
that atmosphere has to be a confidence builder when you're
the home team defensively, offensively, everything. You know, you could
see the players understood it after big plays. The connection
between the players and the fans in that stadium was
so good to see on Saturday.
Speaker 5: John last thing Trade three DQB.
Speaker 2: For all those quarterbacks out there looking at to elevate
their game during the season, how can they get hold
of your team?
Speaker 5: They're at train three DQB.
Speaker 3: Same old man. I actually feel bad we're always talking
about the US at the end of the shows, but I.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you doing it.
Speaker 3: I mean, same old man. For all these young kids,
guys in high school that want to just continue to
get better, there's always people working. It's just reach out
to us. Info at Training three DQB dot com. Reach
out to us by email, you can message us on
our little portal thing that we have online. Just get
in touch with our coaches, whether it's film, whether it's
on field training, whether it's all those things. There's always
ways to improve as a quarterback. We got a lot
of guys around the country that are having some success
because they were that guy that was hungry, that was
always looking to get better. And no matter how many
difficult things you go through as a quarterback, it can
all be used to your advantage because it's all experienced games.
That's one thing I try to tell all my quarterbacks
tough situations. The more you play this game at quarterback,
you know you're not always going to be on great teams.
You're always I'm not going to have great offense around
you are great defenses, and you're gonna play great opponents
at times, and you're gonna have tough nights where you
don't feel as accurate. I mean, that's playing the game.
And so I always say, man, one of the best
things you can do to help that experience that you're
gaining and just maximize it is just always be training,
be hungry to train and improve. And it's one of
the reasons why I really enjoy what I do is
because a lot of the kids I work with, a
lot of the guys I work with, it's the people
that are always looking to improve.
Speaker 2: John Beck, ladies and gentlemen. John always appreciate our time together.
Thanks so much for joining us once again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are welcome. We'll see it all right.
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