Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Coming up in oh not too
Speaker 1: far away less than half an hour. We'll be talking
Speaker 1: to LAPD chief Jim McDonnell about the goings on with
Speaker 1: the department and the city. Great of him to take
Speaker 1: some time to talk with us. We'll also be talking
Speaker 1: with Justin Worsham, hosts of dad podcast, How to Raise
Speaker 1: patient Children in an instant fix world, how to raise
Speaker 1: patient adults too. I mean, we're all kind of we've
Speaker 1: all kind of fallen prey to that instant fix world
Speaker 1: we live in.
Speaker 2: There's something about my wife and I have said this
Speaker 2: repeatedly for all I shouldn't tay all. Most kids that
Speaker 2: we've ever had to hang around, whether they're friends of
Speaker 2: our kids, the kids of our friends, whatever, However it
Speaker 2: works out, any kids that we've had to hang around
Speaker 2: makes you appreciate your own kids that much more. And
Speaker 2: we got very lucky because our kids were, for the
Speaker 2: most part, always very pleasant and happy to be around
Speaker 2: outside of the normal teen stuff that goes on. But
Speaker 2: there's always a point where you have to on the
Speaker 2: one hand, take credit for their who they are. You want,
Speaker 2: I should say, you want to take credit for who
Speaker 2: they are. And then the other times where you like
Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with us. It had nothing
Speaker 2: like my daughter's a chemistry she's going for a chemistry PhD.
Speaker 3: That had nothing to do with us. Sure it did.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Of course it did, only in that we just said, hey,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, there's a zero limitation on
Speaker 2: you for whatever.
Speaker 3: There's nothing You don't think.
Speaker 1: That she was inspired by your wife going back to
Speaker 1: school and getting her nursing degree and becoming an icy
Speaker 1: U nurse as a as a fresh out of school nurse,
Speaker 1: which never happens in the world of nursing. That she
Speaker 1: went straight to the head of her class and I
Speaker 1: graduated of her class and then went and walked into
Speaker 1: an ICU job. Like you don't think your daughter when
Speaker 1: she was going to school was inspired by that. Of
Speaker 1: course she was, well, I hope so, I mean, I
Speaker 1: hope that she thought to herself, you've done nothing right.
Speaker 3: But that's my point.
Speaker 1: I'm totally kidding, but you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 1: the kids look to their parents for cues on how
Speaker 1: to behave socially and professionally, and absolutely you play a
Speaker 1: role in that. Do you have any sort of advanced
Speaker 1: knowledge in chemistry? No, but your kids are going to
Speaker 1: learn things that you've never learned. And that's just the
Speaker 1: way the world is.
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I think that my wife
Speaker 2: has exemplified it more than I have. Is feel free
Speaker 2: to bite off more than you can chew. You can
Speaker 2: always spit it out if it doesn't like. But don't
Speaker 2: be afraid to try something that you know is going
Speaker 2: to be difficult. Yeah, investigating the cause of the eat
Speaker 2: And fire doesn't appear to be as difficult. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of arrows that point to so cal Leedison
Speaker 2: as potentially being the cause of the fire that sparked
Speaker 2: January seventh, a few hours after the Palisades fire. And
Speaker 2: there right now, the concentration is on a group of towers,
Speaker 2: utility towers that exist out in Eaton Canyon, and the
Speaker 2: La Times has been on this story pretty considerably over
Speaker 2: the last couple of months, you can understand, and they've
Speaker 2: pointed to a few things. Number One of the three
Speaker 2: lines that run through the hillsides out there, one of
Speaker 2: them hasn't carried electricity for decades. It was actually de
Speaker 2: energized back in the seventies, and that that, or I
Speaker 2: should say, but that could still be the cause of
Speaker 2: this fire. So a few dozen feet away from the
Speaker 2: other towers is this MESA Silmar transition transmission line which
Speaker 2: has not been connected to a power source since the seventies.
Speaker 2: Like I said, but some investigators, and now of course
Speaker 2: the attorneys who are relying on those investigators, believe that
Speaker 2: there are ways that that line, even though it's not
Speaker 2: connected to a battery down at the other end, or
Speaker 2: however you want to put it, could still become energized.
Speaker 2: On January seventh, the company said in a filing this
Speaker 2: is Edison that it is trying to evaluate whether the
Speaker 2: fire was started by a re energizit just try that again,
Speaker 2: re energization, I think that's always say it of the
Speaker 2: MESA Silmar line that is unused. A fire safety scientist
Speaker 2: Veto Bobrowskis that's quite a name, has said it is
Speaker 2: certainly possible that the line could have become re energized
Speaker 2: on January seventh because of a principle called induction, an
Speaker 2: electromagnetic field from the transmission line that is operating, and
Speaker 2: again it's just a few feet away, would basically cut
Speaker 2: through a deadline and induce a current in it. There
Speaker 2: have been dozens and dozens of work orders that have
Speaker 2: been that Edison knows exist on those lines for a
Speaker 2: lot of things to prevent fires, to weed debatement, tree
Speaker 2: limb clearing, and stuff like that. And he said that
Speaker 2: those work orders do cite ignition risks preak precisely because
Speaker 2: of the induction possibility that high voltages.
Speaker 3: Would be induced.
Speaker 2: So even though it was technically a deadline, it had
Speaker 2: not been connected to a power source for a few decades,
Speaker 2: the potential could still exist that that.
Speaker 3: Was the cause of the fire. That's all I lost you.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I just thought that we had established that
Speaker 1: they caused the fire. All the power that power and
Speaker 1: energy companies are evil. They are They're going to tell
Speaker 1: you anything they can to shirk any sort of responsibility
Speaker 1: and liability.
Speaker 2: Two things Gavin Newsom coming up. Number one, he wants
Speaker 2: to borrow more money. He wants to borrow billions of
Speaker 2: dollars because the state is paying for health care for
Speaker 2: illegal aliens. But also the interview that he did with
Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls in his This is Gavin Newsom, Governor
Speaker 2: Tim Walls says something that will make you laugh out loud.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait, and he meant it so seriously,
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I feel bad that I've spent zero time checking out
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's podcast, but I feel like the highlights highlights
Speaker 1: are making their way to me to where I don't
Speaker 1: have to sift through all the detritis to come up
Speaker 1: with a few gems.
Speaker 2: There's about fifty five zero minutes of fluff and then
Speaker 2: like four or five minutes notable. Sometimes are positive, notable
Speaker 2: agreements that Gavin Newsom has with Republicans or MAGA people,
Speaker 2: and then there's just the most ridiculous things you've ever
Speaker 2: heard in your life.
Speaker 1: I salute the people that sift through these podcasts and
Speaker 1: bring me the highlights.
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Speaker 3: two are not d's, you're a's. You're like angels.
Speaker 2: Because if it wasn't for your show, my day just
Speaker 2: would not be complete.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, SEO, thank you, Well, that's very sweet
Speaker 3: and was very concerned. How many did we.
Speaker 1: Get that said, yeah, you're absolutely we're not going to
Speaker 1: play those. Yeah, exactly, look at you picking and choosing.
Speaker 1: Remember the guy, the reporter out of Kansas City who
Speaker 1: was found dead at the Super Bowl and there was
Speaker 1: a woman charged with his murder.
Speaker 3: The Telemundo reporter, Yeah, rising star there in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: This is his third straight Super Bowl he was covering
Speaker 1: and turned up dead. It was alcohol and xanax and
Speaker 1: a combination. If you're not used to it, it'll kill you,
Speaker 1: especially when you throw up in your sleep. And that's
Speaker 1: what happened with this guy. And that was not an
Speaker 1: endorsement to get used to it. I'll uh white lotus,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. He apparently was not
Speaker 1: the first person that this woman had drugged with the
Speaker 1: goal of robbing them. Apparently this is what she does.
Speaker 1: She gives guys alcohol, she pretends to party with them,
Speaker 1: she laces their drinks with xanax until they pass out,
Speaker 1: and then she robs them. In fact, she was on
Speaker 1: probation at the time of this murder. She was serving
Speaker 1: a ten year suspended sentence in connection with the drugging
Speaker 1: of another man. She was convicted of multiple felonies in
Speaker 1: that case in October, and she was not given a
Speaker 1: prison sentence. She was given a suspended spended sentence. And
Speaker 1: in fact, the attorney in that case had said, she's
Speaker 1: going to kill someone. You don't put her in prison.
Speaker 1: She's going to keep doing this, She's going to kill someone,
Speaker 1: and she did. It's wild. And it's often that you
Speaker 1: hear about a woman drugging a man. I bet it
Speaker 1: happens more often than not, but men just don't report
Speaker 1: it because they're embarrassed totally.
Speaker 4: How many.
Speaker 2: Sex workers, since that's the new term, do this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because they know dudes are dumb.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised sex worker is still in vogue. That it's
Speaker 1: not like sex entrepreneur or sex visionary, physical task entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: physical is sex influencer.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Governor Newsom is saying that he's not going to stop
Speaker 2: providing healthcare to illegal aliens in California, despite being billions
Speaker 2: b billions of dollars short on state healthcare costs. The
Speaker 2: governor this week requested two point eight billion dollars.
Speaker 3: To help cover the soaring Medicaid costs.
Speaker 2: This is two point eight billion dollars on top of
Speaker 2: the three point four billion dollars that he's had to
Speaker 2: borrow from the state's general fund to cover the cost
Speaker 2: of all of this so far. He expected it to
Speaker 2: be about six billion when he expanded medical to cover
Speaker 2: all people in the state, regardless of immigration status, and
Speaker 2: it has ballooned to at least nine and a half billion.
Speaker 2: He said he's not changing his mind at all. Ashley'
Speaker 2: zavalla from kcra up in Sacramento caught up with him.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you can share about just the undocumented
Speaker 1: healthcare expansion and how that's contributing to what's.
Speaker 3: Happening right now?
Speaker 5: That's partial. We've seen in Pennsylvania, Colorado, Indiana, and that
Speaker 5: don't have that expansion, they had even more sizeable supplementals
Speaker 5: into their medicaid system. This was something we previewed in
Speaker 5: the January budget and something that I had previewed in
Speaker 5: separate conversations.
Speaker 3: With other governors.
Speaker 5: It was highlighted actually in December at the Democratic Governors
Speaker 5: Association as an issue we were seeing all across the country.
Speaker 1: So now it's essentially the cost of doing business for
Speaker 1: operating a sanctuary state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then no acknowledgment of Hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: maybe we underestimated what the costs are going to be.
Speaker 2: We should rethink the program. No, no, it's throw more
Speaker 2: money at the program.
Speaker 1: Because it's going to cost you more than if you
Speaker 1: don't have the program. Like I said, the cost the
Speaker 1: cost of doing business. If you're going to open up
Speaker 1: your borders for everybody, they're gonna get sick, and what's
Speaker 1: the cheapest way to take care of them because you
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 3: It's this way.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when Jesse Smolette was interviewed after the
Speaker 2: alleged I.
Speaker 1: Will never be the man that this did not happen to.
Speaker 1: They're setting on fire every double naked, then I will
Speaker 1: never not be the not be the man of this
Speaker 1: did not happen to.
Speaker 2: Remember he said the reason he was attacked is because
Speaker 2: he goes so hard at forty five or whatever. This
Speaker 2: for some reason this echoed that to me. Governor Tim
Speaker 2: Wallas Minnesota was on with Gavenusom on the podcast GAUSMS.
Speaker 3: This is this Gavenusom.
Speaker 2: And they were talking about the right and right leaning
Speaker 2: media's infatuation with masculinity and Tim Walls not living up
Speaker 2: to their standards. According to Walls.
Speaker 6: Just baffled me how much time they spent trying to
Speaker 6: attack me that I wasn't like masculine enough in their vision,
Speaker 6: Like I would have never believed this. I saw Fox
Speaker 6: News did like a couple of days because I used
Speaker 6: a straw and I'm like, hell man, what am I?
Speaker 6: How else do you drink a milkshake type of thing?
Speaker 6: But they focused on it obsessively, which I think again
Speaker 6: is their obsession, their weirdness. We buy their frame on
Speaker 6: these issues of sexuality, but.
Speaker 7: I think this notion of I think it's this notion
Speaker 7: of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated. And I
Speaker 7: think it's been conflated. And I think we're going to
Speaker 7: have to work on that a little bit. And I
Speaker 7: think there is a Christ.
Speaker 6: I think I scare them a little bit what.
Speaker 3: He scares us with his masculinity.
Speaker 2: Now, when you think of masculine, does Tim Walls embody
Speaker 2: that freely?
Speaker 1: Wait? My brain froze a little bit when he was
Speaker 1: talking about this straw. Was he saying that they were
Speaker 1: they were making fun of him because he had a
Speaker 1: straw in his drink?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, was it a plastic straw? I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, I kind of remember this he had at I
Speaker 1: think it was a cocktail or.
Speaker 3: Something or something claims it was a milkshake. Well, anyway, No,
Speaker 3: I'm not scared of Tim Walls. He goes on to say,
Speaker 3: I I give both of.
Speaker 1: These guys should not be but these two guys are
Speaker 1: not who they're talking about when they're talking about toxic
Speaker 1: masculinity and things that if you are scared of that,
Speaker 1: I e. Show me the bear and not the man
Speaker 1: in the woods. These two are not the ones you're
Speaker 1: worried about.
Speaker 2: Well, and Gavin Newsom has in the past referred to
Speaker 2: this the idea of toxic masculinity because he's got teenage
Speaker 2: boys at least one I don't know, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: the age of his kids, and he was referring to
Speaker 2: this having this is an issue that he's going to
Speaker 2: have to deal with, right you said it yesterday. Stop
Speaker 2: telling boys that they're bad, that they're inherently bad, or
Speaker 2: that they're inherently violent or they're inherently sexual predators, like,
Speaker 2: stop telling them that because you're going to destroy them
Speaker 2: from the inside.
Speaker 3: Turn them into that or you're going to turn them
Speaker 3: into that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he at least acknowledges that that's an issue.
Speaker 2: But the idea that somehow someone's afraid of Tim Walls's masculinity,
Speaker 2: or that he was afraid that Republicans are afraid that
Speaker 2: Tim Walls could kick their ass, was another thing that
Speaker 2: he said.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, maybe they were to say that trust me,
Speaker 3: maybe you're not masculine.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about how he's thinking about this.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's saying that the Republicans, while they're planting their
Speaker 1: flag on this toxic masculinity isn't a bad bad thing.
Speaker 1: If they looked at Tim Walls and saw here's a
Speaker 1: masculine guy who cares about women's issues or trans people,
Speaker 1: what have you, that they're worried about that because it
Speaker 1: shows that you can be both. He should have articulated that,
Speaker 1: because I can see that argument of like, here's a guy,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what they were trying to sell
Speaker 1: honestly on that ticket, is that Tim Walls is a
Speaker 1: guy who's a dude's dude hunter. Yeah, but yet all
Speaker 1: that stuff whatever, whatever, These people are all so self important.
Speaker 1: It's just so gross to me. No one's spending that
Speaker 1: much time thinking about you. We all forgot about the
Speaker 1: straw incident because we didn't care when it happened. Nobody's
Speaker 1: still thinking about that. Nobody's thinking about either one of you.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that they have a podcast where they're
Speaker 1: just talking about themselves and their own ideologies and everything
Speaker 1: is just so indicative of the problem with people that
Speaker 1: are in power politically.
Speaker 2: It's what you said yesterday about Chuck Schumer thinking that
Speaker 2: he has to turn candle.
Speaker 3: His book tour. All right.
Speaker 2: LAPD chief Jim McDonald scheduled to join us next segment.
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Speaker 1: I getting to the age where just stand up isn't
Speaker 1: funny because it's hurtful.
Speaker 2: It's potentially well we've we talked with him last month. Shannon,
Speaker 2: you were out so you didn't get the opportunity, But
Speaker 2: LAPD chief Jim McDonald has joined joined us. Chief, thanks
Speaker 2: for taking time for us once again.
Speaker 8: Good morning, Thank you both for having me on.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about you well, it wasn't just
Speaker 1: thinking about you was a couple of years ago when
Speaker 1: I finally got to Fenway.
Speaker 3: And beautiful, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm standing outside and it's all the things.
Speaker 1: It's like, all the build up of thinking of going
Speaker 1: to Fenway, it all pays off, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, it's not just a romantic thing in your head.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm standing outside there and I just get chills,
Speaker 1: and I was just like and then I was thinking,
Speaker 1: like you you grew up right around.
Speaker 8: There, Yeah, right down the street. Yeah, it's a special
Speaker 8: place I think in American history. Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fantastic. I would go if I haven't been here.
Speaker 1: Is your endorsement to go exactly?
Speaker 3: Chief.
Speaker 2: This week, you guys released the end of your crime
Speaker 2: report for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Let's go over some of those numbers. What were the
Speaker 3: highlights for you?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the big ones had struck me or
Speaker 8: the retection and homicides were down fourteen percent from the
Speaker 8: year before, and that is that's a big one. That's
Speaker 8: the one that everybody counts very accurately, so I think
Speaker 8: as a measure of success, certainly we looked to that
Speaker 8: one for twenty twenty four. Then we built on that
Speaker 8: in the first quarter this year. We're down an additional
Speaker 8: forty percent. For twenty twenty four, the victim shot a
Speaker 8: number of people shot was down nineteen percent. Rapes decreased
Speaker 8: by almost one hundred during the year. Robberies saw a
Speaker 8: slight decline and then a large decline and aggravated assaults
Speaker 8: from over twenty thousand down to seventeen thousand and six,
Speaker 8: and so all in, I'll look at our numbers across
Speaker 8: the board, twenty twenty four was a good year for
Speaker 8: Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I remember a press conference five hundred years ago. You
Speaker 1: were an assistant chief at the time. Bill Bratton was there,
Speaker 1: and you guys, the focus was talking about community policing
Speaker 1: and you know, the broken windows theory. And I know
Speaker 1: you're a big community policing guy. And now that you're
Speaker 1: back at the helm of the LAPD, do you see
Speaker 1: room for more of that? Is that one of the
Speaker 1: items on your agenda is to really I mean post pandemic,
Speaker 1: post protest life. Is this something that could really create
Speaker 1: great strides in Los Angeles right now in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I think it's we're looking at community policing
Speaker 8: as more of a philosophy how we do business looking
Speaker 8: at the root causes rather than just the symptoms or incidents.
Speaker 8: That's a focus that we have taken and will continue
Speaker 8: to take. I look at, you know, the areas that
Speaker 8: are covered by our folks who work the Community Safety
Speaker 8: Partnership Bureau, where they focused community policing efforts and strategies
Speaker 8: on particular places. Homicides fell by forty percent in those
Speaker 8: areas in twenty twenty four. And so when you look
Speaker 8: at the success of engaging with the community. Nobody knows
Speaker 8: a particular neighborhood better than the people who live there.
Speaker 8: So if we can make them part of the public
Speaker 8: safety equation and partner with them, we get tremendous results.
Speaker 8: So the effort will be to continue that and take
Speaker 8: it to a new level.
Speaker 2: One of the criticisms from people who watch crime numbers
Speaker 2: like this is that the definitions of crime have changed
Speaker 2: over the years, and that can alter what appears to
Speaker 2: be a drop or an increase in a specific crime.
Speaker 3: How do you account for that?
Speaker 2: How do you make sure that the numbers are as
Speaker 2: accurate as you can possibly make them.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we do the best we can to try and
Speaker 8: be able to compare Apple stables and have. This year
Speaker 8: has been a modification in that because the whole nation
Speaker 8: has transferred in process of transferring from the uniform Crime
Speaker 8: Reporting System, which is the one we've used for well
Speaker 8: over one hundred years, to now the National Incident Based
Speaker 8: Reporting System or NIGHBERS. That fundamentally changes the way crime
Speaker 8: data is collected and analyzed. But while it's more labor
Speaker 8: intensive and takes more people to be able to do
Speaker 8: the input on the front end, it captures a lot
Speaker 8: more data, so it gives us the ability to do
Speaker 8: a greater level of analysis and to be able to
Speaker 8: identify patterns and trends and clusters of crime. So all
Speaker 8: in all, it'll be worth the transition down the road,
Speaker 8: but for this year, comparing it year to year data
Speaker 8: will be difficult. It happened the transition took place in
Speaker 8: May of last year, and so in May of this
Speaker 8: year we'll start at a point where we can compare
Speaker 8: year to year moving forward.
Speaker 1: We're talking to LAPD Chief Jim McDonell, and you're a
Speaker 1: Long Beach guy, if memory serves, I was just in
Speaker 1: Long Beach. We spend some time there and I was
Speaker 1: talking to a friend and she was talking about the
Speaker 1: e bikes, and I know Orange Counties got some things
Speaker 1: in the works in terms of kind of just getting
Speaker 1: a handle on the proliferation of these things. And she
Speaker 1: was saying that she was walking around Long Beach and
Speaker 1: there was all these kids on the e bikes and
Speaker 1: what can be kind of done.
Speaker 3: In terms of getting a handle on that.
Speaker 1: I guess for lack of a better because there's no
Speaker 1: you can't pass any laws against them or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but they certainly seem to be kind of a nuisance
Speaker 1: at least in some parts.
Speaker 8: Of LA Yeah. You know, like anything good, there will
Speaker 8: be some people who abuse it and use it for
Speaker 8: other purposes and become either a nuisance or worse. In
Speaker 8: the case of e bikes, much like any of our
Speaker 8: traffic issues that we deal with, we try and do
Speaker 8: education to educate the community about the dangers of using
Speaker 8: certain methods to get around of how they can better
Speaker 8: protect their roads safety and the safety of the public.
Speaker 8: And then usually we would look at engineering, where are
Speaker 8: these being allowed to be operated, how do we operate them?
Speaker 8: And again going back to the first part, letting people
Speaker 8: know what the dangers of them are and then enforcement.
Speaker 8: You know, if they're operating this vehicle or any other
Speaker 8: vehicle in an unsafe manner, we can take enforcement action.
Speaker 8: And I think that's hopefully a last resort, but those
Speaker 8: are the way we deal with these type of problems.
Speaker 8: Education in the schools as well. Social media also may
Speaker 8: have an impact.
Speaker 2: We're talking about LAPD Chief Jim McDonald. Jim, if you
Speaker 2: have an opportunity, Chief, can you stick around for another segment?
Speaker 8: Oh? Sure, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 2: We got a couple more questions. I want to get
Speaker 2: into technology also.
Speaker 1: And I also want to ask him the Jeopardy question
Speaker 1: of the day because it's about Ireland and I feel
Speaker 1: like he's going to know it better than you will.
Speaker 2: Right more with LAPD Chief McDonald when we come back.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AIX.
Speaker 1: Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We are talking to
Speaker 1: la PD Chief Jim McDonell, who I think was everybody's pick,
Speaker 1: everybody's favorite to lead the department where he spent so
Speaker 1: much time. He spent time really everywhere Long Beach LAPD
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department, and he is back at the helm of
Speaker 1: the LAPD and has found it in his heart to
Speaker 1: spend some time with us.
Speaker 3: How about them Dodgers.
Speaker 8: Chief, They're doing great, maybe unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Can you believe about Rodney Pete in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night snagging that ball from Max Munsey along the
Speaker 1: first baseline there, Mike, we should.
Speaker 3: Lock him up? Maybe we locked up? You beat him
Speaker 3: on the tarmament.
Speaker 1: Rodney works down the hall from us, so he's one
Speaker 1: of our friends here at Yeah, it really is a
Speaker 1: great family. Chief.
Speaker 2: We're talking about crime numbers, and we've talked a lot
Speaker 2: about artificial intelligence for in all different industries and different
Speaker 2: walks of life. Is there a move at all, whether
Speaker 2: it's LAPD specific or law enforcement in general, to use
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence in policing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot of vendors trying to be able
Speaker 8: to enter the market and the public safety arena. Certainly
Speaker 8: a lot of money to be made long term in it,
Speaker 8: but also a great tool, but one that I would
Speaker 8: deest that we, you know, my peers, that we beat
Speaker 8: judicious about employing that and not doing it too fast
Speaker 8: and end up losing a great tool. But I think
Speaker 8: where we can see at end of the market now
Speaker 8: is to be able to go into realms and reams
Speaker 8: of data to be able to find things that are detective,
Speaker 8: say it could normally find if they had the time,
Speaker 8: but they don't, and allow them to be able to
Speaker 8: narrow the field and look at clues or data that
Speaker 8: they need to be able to put a case together
Speaker 8: twise with redaction and so many other things that we
Speaker 8: do that we just don't have the personnel to do it.
Speaker 3: To be able to get.
Speaker 8: An assist from AI or machine learning, uh, you know,
Speaker 8: to begin with Uh, it would be a big help.
Speaker 1: How refreshing to hear somebody in power say, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of money to be made in contracts, especially
Speaker 1: with you know, public money right to be made with
Speaker 1: contracts with the city or the police department or fire
Speaker 1: what have you. But to make sure all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we it's the future. We'll probably contract out the
Speaker 1: in the future, but just be careful and do it
Speaker 1: right exactly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's a great tool. And
Speaker 8: like so many other great tools, we have a tendency
Speaker 8: to rush into things and and put them to work
Speaker 8: right away, and it's you know, premature, and we end
Speaker 8: up losing some some good opportunities.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you lose. You have the potential also
Speaker 3: to lose.
Speaker 2: What makes what makes the job a great thing is
Speaker 2: that it's human interaction.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know we may I mentioned last
Speaker 3: time that we.
Speaker 2: Were talking with you chieved that of the thousands of
Speaker 2: contacts that the LAPED has every single day with people,
Speaker 2: we only hear one or two or three, and they're
Speaker 2: usually not positive. I mean that's and there's thousands of
Speaker 2: other great, positive contacts that happen every single day that
Speaker 2: just don't get the attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Now, probably literally millions of contacts a year. Uh, And
Speaker 8: you hear about the ones that go wrong, and we
Speaker 8: hit it when any go wrong. But when you think
Speaker 8: about people call it police when their world is upside down,
Speaker 8: their situation is out of their control. The police come
Speaker 8: into a situation that's emotionally charged or more difficult with
Speaker 8: you know, alcohol, drugs and mental illness involved so often
Speaker 8: the case today, and try and be able to de
Speaker 8: escalate the situation and restore some order and get people
Speaker 8: the services they need. That's pretty challenging for anyone in
Speaker 8: any field. And that's what they do.
Speaker 3: Call after call.
Speaker 1: Chief McDonald may have been from Boston area Brookline, but
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 3: A graduate of the LA Police Academy.
Speaker 1: Do you remember, and I'm putting you on the spot here,
Speaker 1: but do you remember of any of those like early
Speaker 1: interactions you had, whether it was in the academy or
Speaker 1: after you got the academy with people in the community
Speaker 1: that kind of stick with you throughout your masterful career.
Speaker 1: I mean now as head of the LAPD, but thin
Speaker 1: like interactions or cases or things that stuck with you
Speaker 1: that remind you of why you do what you do.
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, you know, thinking back, that was forty four
Speaker 8: years ago and I remember it like it was yesterday.
Speaker 8: But coming out onto the street in the city I
Speaker 8: didn't know at the time with people I had never
Speaker 8: met before was something that was exciting but challenging, and
Speaker 8: to be able to kind of acclimate to a new
Speaker 8: culture and certainly a new career. I look back on
Speaker 8: that and the thing that reminded me continuously of why
Speaker 8: we do what we do sometimes under the most difficult
Speaker 8: to circumstances is because of the victims, the people out
Speaker 8: there who truly need the police, who without the police
Speaker 8: would be living in terror, be locked in their homes,
Speaker 8: and not be able to function in the way that
Speaker 8: we all as Americans would expect to be able to.
Speaker 8: And so yeah, I've constantly been reminded throughout my career
Speaker 8: of why I'm here, primarily because of the people who
Speaker 8: need us the most.
Speaker 3: All right, are you ready for your jeopardy question? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, this is something we do every day.
Speaker 1: I ask Gary a stupid jeopardy question from the stupid
Speaker 1: desk calendar we have. But today it's Ireland for one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, Chief, Founded in nine fourteen.
Speaker 3: Founded in nine fourteen.
Speaker 1: This city, known for its crystal, is the oldest in Ireland.
Speaker 8: Crystal.
Speaker 3: It's in the south. It's in the south. Waterford's Waterford Crystal.
Speaker 8: Wow, Why do I not know that that's the most
Speaker 8: carbon crystal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 1: Listen, I went to Waterford in Ireland and it was
Speaker 1: nothing to write home about. It was very industrial, the
Speaker 1: crystal warehouse was very nondescript.
Speaker 3: But the crystal is beautiful.
Speaker 8: Stump me on that one.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Next next time, I'll make sure to get
Speaker 1: you gimme.
Speaker 3: Chief. Thanks for your time once again, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 8: It's a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: For having me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely lapd Chief two McDonald there with the latest and yeah,
Speaker 2: we like like these conversations with him and hopefully well
Speaker 2: he'll come back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, up next swamp.
Speaker 2: Watch what's going on in DC, specifically the call with
Speaker 2: Trump and Zelenski from today.
Speaker 1: Also, the hard hitting topic is the doggie bag dead.
Speaker 3: I have a doggie bag story.
Speaker 1: Do you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it about your dog when it was dying? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear the story again. It's very sad.
Speaker 1: How about a story about a doggie bag that you
Speaker 1: got in before you didn't die.
Speaker 3: Well, he got into it before, he didn't know, but
Speaker 3: he was like a death's door. Means it was a
Speaker 3: nice story.
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