Speaker 1: Okay, we're laughing. How does William Ramsey Welcome to William
Speaker 1: Ramsey Investigates on today's show of a very special guest.
Speaker 1: His name is Chris Hampton. He's interviewed me about nine
Speaker 1: to eleven and I am turning it back on him
Speaker 1: and interviewing him about his film, the title of which
Speaker 1: is nine to eleven Alchemy. As we're coming on to
Speaker 1: September first right now, so the twenty year anniversary of
Speaker 1: September eleventh is ten days away, so I think it
Speaker 1: would be very apropos and timely to interview him about
Speaker 1: his three hour, very thorough documentary. So Chris Hampton and
Speaker 1: Wolf Clan Media, are you.
Speaker 2: There, yes, sir, thank you, Thank you for the great introduction.
Speaker 1: Awesome well thanks for bringing to the interview for people
Speaker 1: who may not know your background. Can you talk about
Speaker 1: Wolf Clan Media and in some of your other projects
Speaker 1: and then lead into nine to eleven Alchemy please?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? You know Wolf Clan Media really, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, started the name at least started as kind
Speaker 2: of just a media thing hip hop and doing music videos.
Speaker 2: I'm a videographer and prior to that, I went to
Speaker 2: school for audio and was an audio engineer, so I
Speaker 2: worked in Burbank, California, at a film studio doing post
Speaker 2: production for film and during that time I kind of
Speaker 2: started having a little bit of what I call an
Speaker 2: awakening of what's really going on in the world, and
Speaker 2: especially what's going on in Hollywood and the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2: But prior to that, I'd already kind of had, you know,
Speaker 2: in the back of my mind some issues with government
Speaker 2: corruption obviously cover ups and false flag operations such as
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. These were things I'd already been looking
Speaker 2: at since about the age fifteen, and kind of again,
Speaker 2: like everybody else, part of the middle class, just trying
Speaker 2: to go on with life and do what I got
Speaker 2: to do, you know, family and.
Speaker 1: Work, good day to day stuff. How old were you
Speaker 1: when nine to eleven happened? Then?
Speaker 2: I was eleven years old when I saw the Do.
Speaker 1: You remember what you saw? Do you remember the sequence
Speaker 1: of events like where you were and stuff?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Can you resell that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was ten or eleven years old.
Speaker 2: I was sitting in the living room. Actually, first I
Speaker 2: heard my dad screaming, and I came out of my
Speaker 2: bedroom and walked into the living room. And he's yelling
Speaker 2: at the TV, same thing you've heard in many of
Speaker 2: the footage, and a lot of the footage just you know,
Speaker 2: screaming and disbelief. And I looked at the TV, and
Speaker 2: of course the hole was already in the North Tower
Speaker 2: and I was watching, and for me, it already immediately
Speaker 2: felt like some type of you know, film, some type
Speaker 2: of something. So I didn't really understand why why someone
Speaker 2: was so upset. This is something I've seen in Independence
Speaker 2: Day and movies, so it looked almost normal, supposed to
Speaker 2: be on television, right, And then the plane comes in
Speaker 2: and it goes through behind the tower, and again to me,
Speaker 2: it just was like something out of Star Wars. It
Speaker 2: was just so it just didn't make sense to me,
Speaker 2: and even as a kid, I just I really questioned
Speaker 2: what I was seeing there.
Speaker 1: So then your kind of life goes on then you
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you kind of get into kind
Speaker 1: of conspiratorial pair of political stuff. Were you on the
Speaker 1: internet or were there websites or what kind of led
Speaker 1: you down that kind of route.
Speaker 2: Hole. Yeah, it's a really it's a strange story, you know,
Speaker 2: and it has multiple layers. In two thousand and four,
Speaker 2: the film in Plane Sight came out, and so that
Speaker 2: really is what led me into really investigating nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Davon Kleiss, Yeah, I realize now that there's a lot
Speaker 2: of problems with that film, and and obviously because of
Speaker 2: that film, it's kind of inspired me to do my film,
Speaker 2: which we can get into later. But that did get
Speaker 2: me into investigating, you know, the planes, because as I said,
Speaker 2: I already kind of in the back of my mind
Speaker 2: had a problem with what I saw, and so over
Speaker 2: the couple of years two thousand and three, two thousand
Speaker 2: and four, I was already you know, questioning a lot
Speaker 2: of things, asking my teachers in school, you know, why
Speaker 2: were you in Afghanistan? And you know, when they had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with this, and you would get these
Speaker 2: answers about oil and things. It was always the same,
Speaker 2: and it seemed to be a shrug at the shoulders,
Speaker 2: like it was just okay to invade these countries. And
Speaker 2: then really what got me into nine to eleven was
Speaker 2: was that film. And I followed that film, but what
Speaker 2: what's so strange about it is then you find the
Speaker 2: truth movement, which comes a couple of years later two
Speaker 2: thousand and six, two thousand and seven. You know, two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, you've got architects and engineers, the scholars,
Speaker 2: and I started following right absolutely, and I really was
Speaker 2: a follower. I really followed these people. I would donate
Speaker 2: and I'd believe things they would say. And of course
Speaker 2: the government story, the ten thousand page NIST report that
Speaker 2: came out, just didn't make any sense. And the things
Speaker 2: they were saying, you know, was another story. So I
Speaker 2: was following this for a long time. And if we
Speaker 2: fast forward to twenty sixteen, like you said, and moving
Speaker 2: on with life, I started wanting to do a film
Speaker 2: because I was in filmmaking, and again I was following
Speaker 2: the truth movement, so I thought, what a good idea
Speaker 2: to make a nine to eleven documentary. And I was
Speaker 2: really unknowingly making a disinformation film and didn't even know it,
Speaker 2: you know, I was. I was gathering all this stuff
Speaker 2: that was so easily accessible, and it was just a
Speaker 2: revelation where my father asked me one day what I
Speaker 2: thought actually brought the towers down? And we were watching
Speaker 2: a video and thinking about that, just using critical thinking,
Speaker 2: I said, you know, maybe it's something you know, totally
Speaker 2: classified that you know, we just don't know about. And
Speaker 2: he said that he'd heard something about a Tesla oscillator
Speaker 2: and Nicola Tesla with this oscillating and being able to
Speaker 2: bring down a building with an oscillator and things like this,
Speaker 2: and that that Google search turned me onto a whole
Speaker 2: new area of the Internet I didn't even know existed,
Speaker 2: didn't even know existed. And it made me realize that
Speaker 2: while following the truth movement, I'd forgotten that I really
Speaker 2: didn't truly believe the plane story. But this was not
Speaker 2: allowed to be discussed on their websites. This was a
Speaker 2: no no, this was taboo, This was totally this was
Speaker 2: not credited you know, good scholarly nine to eleven research.
Speaker 2: If you were talking about no planes, you're on the fringe.
Speaker 2: And I realized that I'd almost conformed to change my beliefs.
Speaker 2: Some people watching maybe familiar with the ash conformity experiment,
Speaker 2: where you know, you change your beliefs, you change your reality.
Speaker 2: So that changed everything, and I started realizing that the
Speaker 2: truth movement was actually censoring information. They were censoring what
Speaker 2: looked to be evidence of classified high technology. And I think, honestly, William,
Speaker 2: you put it the best. I think your description of
Speaker 2: nine to eleven is one of the best I've ever heard,
Speaker 2: and it was in your film. Was nine to eleven
Speaker 2: was an example of the highest technology influenced ceremonial magic.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, no, I mean something was going on strange
Speaker 1: that I don't think people know. But there's weird energies
Speaker 1: and actually, like you show right there that hurricane that
Speaker 1: was off of the coast, like it's almost like they're
Speaker 1: superpower thing like that is so fortunate for that event
Speaker 1: to have that hurricane because it sucked up all the
Speaker 1: year and made the today in New York perfectly clear, right,
Speaker 1: so it's like a perfectly clear And some people have
Speaker 1: said that even like some of the hurricanes under the
Speaker 1: Bush administration, if you remember, they like changed course and
Speaker 1: things very strange, so they had funny act, yeah, fuzzy
Speaker 1: action or something. But yeah, I mean you and I
Speaker 1: had talked before we talked to it, and you have
Speaker 1: Clark in your film. But his third law was anything
Speaker 1: that expression is expression of high technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Speaker 2: I think of something so absolutely there's sufficiently advanced technology
Speaker 2: is indistinguishable from magic. And you put that in your
Speaker 2: film as well, and I think that's one of the
Speaker 2: that's the key to what we're trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what's going on here, And we'll just discussed about how
Speaker 2: technologies are far more advanced.
Speaker 1: Than more Well, we know there's a space program, there's
Speaker 1: like a space force in our military, but nobody knows
Speaker 1: what the components are. So there's definitely a technology we
Speaker 1: are there's probably a generation or two ahead of ours
Speaker 1: right now, which nine to eleven, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: an incredible event anyway, So getting back to your start,
Speaker 1: so you, I mean, your work is three hours long.
Speaker 1: When you say that you think you were putting out
Speaker 1: your initial thing was a dis info Can you think
Speaker 1: can you relate to what facts that you were putting
Speaker 1: out you think were incorrect at that time?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it was the nano thermite story. This nano thermite
Speaker 2: story was put out almost immediately after then official government
Speaker 2: story was put out. And I now am of the
Speaker 2: opinion that this was a cover story, a backup for
Speaker 2: people that we're going to pick apart that official government story.
Speaker 2: And the main reason is because of what you just
Speaker 2: brought up right there, the hurricane. The hurricane, this seems
Speaker 2: to be a topic that no. Nine to eleven Truther
Speaker 2: wants to discuss The Truth movement does not want to
Speaker 2: talk about this hurricane, and they don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about the planes. Now, when we go back to me
Speaker 2: putting out disinformation about in regards to nano thermite, this
Speaker 2: story of nano thermite comes from a man named Stephen E. Jones.
Speaker 2: Now you can go to Stephen E. Jones Wikipedia page
Speaker 2: and you can see that he worked for many military laboratories,
Speaker 2: including Los Alamos, which specializes in classified technology, and he
Speaker 2: was an insider for the Department of Energy in the
Speaker 2: nineteen eighties. When Pons and Fleischmann, scientists from the University
Speaker 2: of Utah, discovered cold fusion in the eighties, they applied
Speaker 2: for funding through the Department of Energy. Well, through that application,
Speaker 2: Stephen E. Jones was notified and he was able to
Speaker 2: help to fabricate data to basically discredit these two scientists
Speaker 2: and totally debunk cold fusion. And even later that year
Speaker 2: it was put into the Back to the Future film,
Speaker 2: So it's totally science fiction. Right now, this guy becomes
Speaker 2: the head of the Truth movement. He created basically the
Speaker 2: Truth movement almost thirty years later. It's absolutely susprict.
Speaker 1: To cold fusion works, right, I mean, there is some
Speaker 1: kind of process that takes place between Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's cover much evidence and honestly, let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and be accurate here. There's muon catalyzed fusion, and there's
Speaker 2: the correct term is low energy nuclear reactions Lennar. And
Speaker 2: if you were to type in l E n R
Speaker 2: on Google right now, you're going to find so much
Speaker 2: evidence all across the world different countries of cold fusion
Speaker 2: of basically putting in less and getting out more energy.
Speaker 2: So this is not necessarily free energy, but it's extremely cheap,
Speaker 2: extremely clean and clean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that had to be I mean, and there's
Speaker 1: always been battles against alternate energy sources, going back from
Speaker 1: gas to the gas companies. Rock of Diesel died mysteriously,
Speaker 1: by the way, who created the diesel engine. They have
Speaker 1: another guy who created a hydrogen car. He died. If
Speaker 1: you want to look at the history of the electric
Speaker 1: car that came out, that whole thing, there was a
Speaker 1: documentary about that. Somebody from the old companies just came
Speaker 1: in and bought up every single one that they could
Speaker 1: and just and trashed them. So there's some serious issues
Speaker 1: around energy around this. But steven E. Jones. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he is questionable. Care I mean, you're always getting shaped
Speaker 1: by a lot of these different Then this report was
Speaker 1: a joke if I remember correctly. So, and that guy
Speaker 1: who ran that wasn't even an American. He was from
Speaker 1: like India or something like that, if I remember correctly. So,
Speaker 1: there really is a lot of questions with a lot
Speaker 1: of those so called truth yeah meanings, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it was shaped. You know. One thing that you
Speaker 1: can say is what has been the outcome of all
Speaker 1: those groups honestly? Well anything.
Speaker 2: Maybe they've spread awareness two nine to eleven. Maybe, But
Speaker 2: at the same time they've helped to cover up advanced technology,
Speaker 2: technology that could change the world for the better. I mean,
Speaker 2: it could end all war if we're really looking at
Speaker 2: the implications, it's totally incredible. But as we know, the
Speaker 2: same people who built those towers the same year that
Speaker 2: two thousand and one movie was being made, the Rockefellers,
Speaker 2: they run this energy, you know, and again we so
Speaker 2: then we say, okay, well David Rockefeller's gone, you know,
Speaker 2: so who we've got the daughter and we've got really
Speaker 2: now people who are running the Rockefeller tied back to
Speaker 2: the Gates Foundation, and we've got this whole new COVID
Speaker 2: thing going on. Right, So we see the same we
Speaker 2: see the same same place, same characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same same background. But yeah, the Rockefeller is incredibly powerful.
Speaker 1: So those two buildings were known as Nelson and David, right,
Speaker 1: and they were being builded really was on Rockefeller Land.
Speaker 1: The whole infrastructures, hyper occult, the spherical Carrea. I did
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten stories, I mean, two pillars bo
Speaker 1: Az and Jash, and there's all kinds of references. It
Speaker 1: just goes on very sophisticated, I should add, like very very.
Speaker 2: Much, and and there and again this is why I
Speaker 2: just felt so upset. Really not so much because I
Speaker 2: donated to these groups and and helped these nonprofit organizations
Speaker 2: become rich and famous, similar to the other evil nonprofit
Speaker 2: Rockefeller Foundations, Clinton Foundations, you know these To me, these
Speaker 2: I realized, these, these uh, these nine eleven truth groups
Speaker 2: were were no different. They were they were doing the
Speaker 2: same thing. And really it seemed that I'd been fooled.
Speaker 2: And again it was not because I donated and followed.
Speaker 2: It is because I was working on a film and
Speaker 2: getting ready to push information that I now saw to
Speaker 2: be totally a cover totally a cover up. And if
Speaker 2: we go back to like the energy thing, you have
Speaker 2: people like Stanley Meyer. So if you start going down this,
Speaker 2: Stanley Meyer developed a famous water powered car. Right, it
Speaker 2: sounds crazy, but I mean these things existed and he
Speaker 2: was taken out. I mean he drove this doom buggy
Speaker 2: from from one coast to the other coast on gallons
Speaker 2: of water. I mean it's insane, you know, converting to
Speaker 2: hydrogen fuel cells and things like this. So this stuff
Speaker 2: absolutely exists. And really, who's in my film and who
Speaker 2: who was being covered up was doctor Judy Wood. She
Speaker 2: wrote the book Where Did the Towers Go? Where she
Speaker 2: outlines the evidence of directed free energy technology being used
Speaker 2: to make two buildings disappear within eight to twelve seconds each.
Speaker 2: I mean nothing can do that. And then no paper burns,
Speaker 2: there's no ionizing radiation.
Speaker 1: Right, No, there's all good. She called a justification, right,
Speaker 1: Wasn't that her term exactly? Because that's it. I mean,
Speaker 1: these things turn, they're not large clumps, and you can
Speaker 1: see the pictures of it right now. Something happened very unusual,
Speaker 1: and you almost don't see the element of like a blast,
Speaker 1: like you don't see the black smoke or red flames
Speaker 1: or anything that's consistent with standard explosive charges or something.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that. I see. It's almost like
Speaker 2: people can't really see that. And again me, for fifteen years,
Speaker 2: I couldn't see it. I thought that was an explosion.
Speaker 2: I would even urge people to again just to look
Speaker 2: at that and ask yourself, are you looking at a collapse?
Speaker 2: Are you looking at an explosion? I mean it looks
Speaker 2: like that building is turning to dust?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean yeah. I mean even you can
Speaker 1: go and see the site. It's incredible because even at
Speaker 1: the Twin Towers when they fell, there should have been
Speaker 1: huge block I mean there were some, and they affected
Speaker 1: other sides of the buildings, but there really wasn't like
Speaker 1: a rubble pile forty stories or fifty stories to like
Speaker 1: three stories. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And and to your point, like you just said about
Speaker 2: the buildings, you would hear the truth movement they still
Speaker 2: say this, three buildings were destroyed with two airplanes, and
Speaker 2: it's like no, No, seven buildings were destroyed with two airplanes.
Speaker 2: Seven buildings. There was a scooped out hole taken out
Speaker 2: of World Trade Center six. And I think that the
Speaker 2: truth movement talks about World Trade Center seven as this
Speaker 2: smoking gun, when actually World Trade Center six is the
Speaker 2: smoking gun. You can go to the Wikipedia page and
Speaker 2: you tell me what did that? Is it bombs? Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it? I mean, is it plane debris? Is it that?
Speaker 2: It's the World Trade Center six? And so again all
Speaker 2: seven buildings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, there was something else going on. There's
Speaker 1: something much more important. I think Judy Wood has been
Speaker 1: maligned if I remember correctly, but she's shown other pictures
Speaker 1: of like cars that aren't to anything, just incinerated. There's
Speaker 1: all kinds of weird things that happened that day. And
Speaker 1: I think that her research. She talks about the hurricane too, right,
Speaker 1: like the audit of the hurricane. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing. My My goal of my
Speaker 2: film was more about the airplanes, because.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the airplanes, okay.
Speaker 2: So finding her research really helped me to break out
Speaker 2: of this cognitive dissonance and and it realized that the
Speaker 2: truth movement was helping to cover up the airplanes. Now,
Speaker 2: when I did the film, there's multiple goals I set
Speaker 2: out to do, but one of the main ones was
Speaker 2: to prove that the videos were real. I started watching
Speaker 2: films like Simon Shack's September Clues and Ace Baker's Great
Speaker 2: American Sire Opera. And there's other films that have been
Speaker 2: made again, like The Change Loose Change, which was another
Speaker 2: guy Internet blockbuster, right, But there was.
Speaker 1: Another guy too who did a really good movie. I
Speaker 1: can't remember that.
Speaker 2: The Airplane the mcdan. There's quite a few, not nearly
Speaker 2: as many as there are about the destruction of the towers,
Speaker 2: but there are there are quite a few, and yeah,
Speaker 2: there's some good ones. And some of these are Netflix
Speaker 2: again internet blockbusters, you know, they're streaming on Amazon and Netflix,
Speaker 2: and they all have a theme. They're either promoting the
Speaker 2: idea of a fake plane composited in or cgi'ed, or
Speaker 2: the idea of a reinforced you know, military plane, you know,
Speaker 2: or something with something attached to the bottom of pod.
Speaker 2: Dylan Avery outright says you can see it shooting a
Speaker 2: missile right before it impacts. It's like, no, you can't,
Speaker 2: but he says that, and then I realized, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: these people are purposely ignoring something. Dylan Avery had a
Speaker 2: document from the Air Force twenty twenty five, that's the
Speaker 2: title of it. And here we are coming up on this.
Speaker 2: On the cover, you have people with virtual reality glasses,
Speaker 2: holograms in the air, and he's talking about voice morphing
Speaker 2: technology in relation to this document and how the phone
Speaker 2: calls couldn't possibly have happened from the air, which I agree.
Speaker 2: If he's using this document and he's talking about voice morphing,
Speaker 2: he talks about one section. He skips over a whole
Speaker 2: section of the document to discuss the voice morphing, and
Speaker 2: I realized the section he's skipped over is all about
Speaker 2: illusion technology, stealth technology, holograms if you will, which is
Speaker 2: an inappropriate, incorrect term to use. It is three dimensional
Speaker 2: volumetric ghost objects that appear to float in mid air
Speaker 2: for psychological warfare. These are things that we're discussed in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. I think even the Washington Post covered it,
Speaker 2: but it's been totally removed now. But again, Dylan Avery
Speaker 2: seemed to skip right over this and go on to
Speaker 2: talk about his pod theory. Now, to me, that's someone
Speaker 2: who had a theory and was looking for evidence to
Speaker 2: fit the theory, rather than looking at evidence to develop
Speaker 2: a theory, and so I'd set out to show that
Speaker 2: these people must have done this on purpose. He couldn't
Speaker 2: have possibly skipped over that by accident. And there are
Speaker 2: other things with the other filmmakers that would show things
Speaker 2: that would say this is CGI when clearly they knew
Speaker 2: it wasn't and skipped over things, and as a video
Speaker 2: editor I had to I felt an obligation to speak
Speaker 2: out that this is not video fakery. We even got
Speaker 2: to the point where people were saying the jumpers were CGI.
Speaker 1: Wow, and that's not true. They're falling, and there was
Speaker 1: pictures of them dead in reports of people saying, there's
Speaker 1: actually if you I don't know if you've seen it,
Speaker 1: but the fire people were going through the bottom of
Speaker 1: the towers and you could hear the audio of the
Speaker 1: bodies dropping on a.
Speaker 2: Absolutely and I don't believe any of it was CGI.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it was.
Speaker 1: So you don't believe, So you're you're not a no planer.
Speaker 1: You believe the planes are real.
Speaker 2: I believe the videos are real and the planes are fake.
Speaker 2: So so I believe the planes were some sort of
Speaker 2: stealth technology, which I expand on more in the next film.
Speaker 2: But again this seemed to be a common theme the people.
Speaker 2: Another great one is Ace Baker. He works for companies
Speaker 2: that actually did the two thousand and eight hologram election
Speaker 2: thing on CNN. They beamed hologram into the CNN studios
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight for the election. This company
Speaker 2: nine to eleven Truther, works for him, and he's talking
Speaker 2: about CGI. So the whole no Planer to me, seemed
Speaker 2: to be a thing I had to ask the question,
Speaker 2: which I'll ask now, why why would people purposely ignore
Speaker 2: things about illusion technology and stealth technology and promote the
Speaker 2: idea of CGI and video fakery. And if these people
Speaker 2: truly believe there were no planes in New York City
Speaker 2: that day and were able to make these blockbuster films,
Speaker 2: why would they not discuss that issue? And why would
Speaker 2: they also blame all these amateur vide geographers just like myself.
Speaker 2: So there was a personal thing there of video fakery.
Speaker 2: They either had to be complicit and part of this
Speaker 2: government conspiracy they're all Masons, or they were visited by
Speaker 2: the FBI with on the day of nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: their footage was snatched and then they were taken back
Speaker 2: and doctored. You know, it's that, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: There wasn't the two French brothers, the nod Day brothers
Speaker 1: who filmed eleven now hitting the building, and they're kind
Speaker 1: of just why they were on site.
Speaker 2: They're very They were given access in twenty fifteen to
Speaker 2: the CIA, every living director of the CIA. They made
Speaker 2: a documentary that's on Netflix. I do not believe the
Speaker 2: Nowaday brothers were amateur videographers. So now you see I'm
Speaker 2: almost conflicting myself. So again, but these these guys were
Speaker 2: French professional guys there to film, right the firefighters. There's
Speaker 2: even a witness there's even a witness down there who says,
Speaker 2: these firefighters been out here all day, look like they're
Speaker 2: waiting for something, like they knew this was coming, that
Speaker 2: was on the day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it's speculation.
Speaker 2: It's speculation, but it is it is suspicious. And why
Speaker 2: were these people, these two videographers given access to the CIA,
Speaker 2: you know, years a decade later, you know, decades later, So.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. There's a lot of suspicious stuff.
Speaker 1: But so so you think that the planes were not
Speaker 1: CGI but were some form of stealth technology. Is that
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I think we all witnessed an illusion in real time.
Speaker 1: Okay, so how was that illusion created? Do you think
Speaker 1: that's but the towers were there and not there, so
Speaker 1: that was a real event, exactly whatever, And.
Speaker 2: That's the thing again that started becoming a thing with
Speaker 2: the VIC sims. These these victims are simulated CGI vicxims.
Speaker 2: And if you'll notice, me and you discussed that started
Speaker 2: to become a bit of a topic in these shootings,
Speaker 2: which we know are occult rituals. For the most part,
Speaker 2: these mass shootings that are happening are very much connected
Speaker 2: to the occult world and very much false flags. You
Speaker 2: can always find.
Speaker 1: Someone go to MK hole through some of those people.
Speaker 2: Are zapped out of their brains and there just getting out.
Speaker 1: And he was probably one of the first kind of.
Speaker 2: The right, these lone nuts. And so again why it
Speaker 2: begs the question, why would nine to eleven truthers that
Speaker 2: are just like me and you seeking the truth start
Speaker 2: pushing the idea of victim victims and then even right
Speaker 2: and you would think, yeah, I wouldn't take that seriously.
Speaker 1: But I believe all those truth movements were all infiltrated
Speaker 1: by assets of someone or another. I would assume government.
Speaker 2: And all that stuff went viral. Really it is. If
Speaker 2: you look at the creation of the Internet, it is
Speaker 2: it is right there with nine to eleven conspiracy films.
Speaker 2: I mean, the rise of the Internet and the rise
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven conspiracy films go hand in hand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're really just a strange.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that even some of the talking heads
Speaker 1: pundits today I wouldn't be I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into the real name could but some of
Speaker 1: these people clearly are assets. They're Intel assets or.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so.
Speaker 1: Anyway, So getting back to alchemy, So, I mean, your
Speaker 1: your book, your documentary believes that some kind of alchemical
Speaker 1: change happened on nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Correct, Well, the reason I called it alchemy, Sorry, so
Speaker 2: the reason I called it alchemy, the reason I called
Speaker 2: it alchemy was really just a hunch. I'd started learning
Speaker 2: that transmutation took place. I'd started looking into John Hutchison,
Speaker 2: obviously because of doctor Judy Woods book Where Did the
Speaker 2: Towers Go? And she compared the evidence of nine to
Speaker 2: eleven at New York City to the experiments of John
Speaker 2: Hutchison and John Hutchison as well has been totally ridiculed,
Speaker 2: And I've noticed that they were both really getting ridiculed.
Speaker 2: The Truth movement would say, you know, space beams, and
Speaker 2: I actually think this is some type of like reverse
Speaker 2: psychology type of thing with the whole space beams, because
Speaker 2: again we know that a space weapons program has existed
Speaker 2: since the Reagan era. It's been kept secret, and the
Speaker 2: space Force is nothing new. And again we don't know
Speaker 2: the components of what's going on up there, but we
Speaker 2: can find evidence of particle beam weapons being tested in
Speaker 2: the eighties, nineteen eighty nine, bear, which is the what
Speaker 2: is it here? The beam aboard a rocket. So the beam,
Speaker 2: a particle beam weapon aboard a rocket was tested at
Speaker 2: proving that a directed energy weapon could be operated in
Speaker 2: space in nineteen eighty nine, and so we have that evidence.
Speaker 2: Now I'm of the opinion that the illusion technology we
Speaker 2: saw on September eleventh was part of in some way
Speaker 2: almost the same type of mechanism or component of what
Speaker 2: destroyed the buildings, what created that plane shaped silhouette almost
Speaker 2: like a cartoon cutout of an airplane in both the
Speaker 2: towers and the hole in the ground in Shanksville. You know,
Speaker 2: to me, this is all directed energy holograms or three
Speaker 2: dimensional volumetric objects would be induced using things like laser,
Speaker 2: which is a form of directed energy. So to me,
Speaker 2: it is all directed energy. And what doctor Judy Wood
Speaker 2: tries to show is that by studying this and understanding
Speaker 2: the destruction, at least the destruction part, then we can
Speaker 2: all as a collective really understand that free energy exists.
Speaker 2: We do not need to be operating our cars on
Speaker 2: gasoline and paying these bills to the Rockefeller or let
Speaker 2: alone giving thirty thousand dollars to Elon Musk for his
Speaker 2: miracle electric vehicle for the luxurious, rich upper class. But
Speaker 2: I really set out more to prove that this technology
Speaker 2: of this illusion exists and it's more important than the
Speaker 2: rest of it. And I don't like really saying that
Speaker 2: it's more important, but to a degree it is, because
Speaker 2: once you uncover illusion technology, it's no longer a weapon.
Speaker 2: It can no longer be used against you. And what
Speaker 2: are the implications of that. I mean, you think about
Speaker 2: films and sci fi films like Independence Day and the
Speaker 2: way that the White House was destroyed in Independence Day
Speaker 2: very similar, which by the way, which psychologically I don't
Speaker 2: know what happened there, but the sales of that film
Speaker 2: statistically went through the roof the day after nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: something someone pointed out to me and I verified, which
Speaker 2: is just so strange that people decided to go to
Speaker 2: Blockbuster in Hollywood Video right after in two thousand and
Speaker 2: one to go rent Independence Day. We saw something that
Speaker 2: day and we didn't understand.
Speaker 1: What we saw, right, Yeah, No, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Like you said in your film the highest technology influenced
Speaker 2: Ceremonial Magic, my new film is all about the occult aspects,
Speaker 2: which also seem to be totally ignored by the truth movement. No,
Speaker 2: no more talk about Crowley. They don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about you. Start bringing up numbers around these people and
Speaker 2: put them in the looney bin, put a straight jacket
Speaker 2: on him. He's talking about the numbers or me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I have no question. That would
Speaker 1: never invite me in anywhere into the nine to eleven
Speaker 1: truth movement. When is your new documentary done? It's not
Speaker 1: done yet, is it.
Speaker 2: It is basically done. It's being critiqued, peer reviewed, and
Speaker 2: it will be released on the anniversary. And actually I've
Speaker 2: got your book featured in the new film, so that'll
Speaker 2: be great.
Speaker 1: Do you have a title? Do you have a title
Speaker 1: you can disclose.
Speaker 2: The title is nine to eleven Alchemy a big idea,
Speaker 2: either a big idea or the Big Idea, which it's
Speaker 2: a big idea.
Speaker 1: It sounds like something George Bush Senior would say.
Speaker 2: He did say it. He said it many times in
Speaker 2: relation to the New World Order, which you pointed out
Speaker 2: in your book and in your film, and he also
Speaker 2: talked about the law. Now, to me, this big idea
Speaker 2: is the new World Order, and I actually found some
Speaker 2: very very strange, cryptic clues from the media out this
Speaker 2: big Idea interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing that. So where will people
Speaker 1: be able to find that? On your website?
Speaker 2: My website is Wolfclanmedia dot org.
Speaker 1: Wolf Clan Media. I'm gonna put her in the show
Speaker 1: notes Wolf as long as this one is it three
Speaker 1: hours long?
Speaker 2: No, it will not be three hours long. I know
Speaker 2: the last one is very difficult for people to see,
Speaker 2: but it's important. I didn't want to leave anything out.
Speaker 2: I wanted to to really, I wanted to address that
Speaker 2: plane issue. I wanted to vindicate all of the amateur
Speaker 2: videographers who I've personally spoken with, many of them do
Speaker 2: not want to be part of this a lot of
Speaker 2: them had trouble getting jobs because you would look up
Speaker 2: this Jennifer spell for instance, you would look her up,
Speaker 2: say you're an employer trying to hire her as a videographer,
Speaker 2: and you look her up Spellbinding fakery, the nine to
Speaker 2: eleven hoax, you know, things like this, and it had
Speaker 2: had trouble getting jobs. I wanted to vindicate these amazing
Speaker 2: videographers who just aptured something that they couldn't explain that day,
Speaker 2: and I really wanted to do that in a way
Speaker 2: that wasn't vindicating the mainstream media. And I've still to
Speaker 2: this day been accused of vindicating the mainstream media by
Speaker 2: promoting this hologram theory rather than the video fakery. Because again,
Speaker 2: if any side of the truth movement were to talk
Speaker 2: about the planes, they're either going to say that the
Speaker 2: mainstream media basically put fake videos in there, and so
Speaker 2: by me debunking that, I'm debunking the mainstream media. But
Speaker 2: in no way am I doing that. They are so complicit.
Speaker 2: They didn't report the hurricane, and I would say honestly
Speaker 2: that they put out the truth movement's biggest talking points.
Speaker 2: Larry Silverstein came out and said, yeah, we were told
Speaker 2: to pull it. Do you think that was an accident
Speaker 2: that mainstream media ran and that No, absolutely not. That
Speaker 2: was so the truth movement could run with that for
Speaker 2: the next twenty years and keep all of us entangled
Speaker 2: in this arguing of what really happened. And I think
Speaker 2: the core about what me and you get to in
Speaker 2: this new film and in your book especially is what
Speaker 2: is the end goal? What's the point? Let's not argue
Speaker 2: about all the physical, you know, aspects of what actually happened,
Speaker 2: even though it's very important. What was the point of
Speaker 2: September eleventh, Right?
Speaker 1: What was the point? Right?
Speaker 2: It's a big idea.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a big idea. Here's the thing. It's been
Speaker 1: twenty years. We know what's happened. We just ended a
Speaker 1: twenty year war, longest war in history in Afghanistan, invaded Iraq,
Speaker 1: put in the Patriot Act, huge surveillance, state pumping and
Speaker 1: dumping the entire economy from two thousand and one to
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, interest rates through zero the end,
Speaker 1: the whole economy was wrecked. I think that was obviously intentional.
Speaker 1: So somebody who's well, the Wizard of Oz was pulling
Speaker 1: the strings the whole time. For that whole event, And
Speaker 1: I mean you can go in, you can go into
Speaker 1: to bush at the you know when he's talking to
Speaker 1: the kids. You ever see that video where like the
Speaker 1: kids are people chanting, plane building die. You know, it's incredible. Yeah, And.
Speaker 2: But again there's been so much put out. I mean
Speaker 2: there's been that video was viral for a while there,
Speaker 2: and you had Honestly, I'm gonna go ahead and say,
Speaker 2: there we talked about a little bit about S. K. Bain,
Speaker 2: the author of another book, and I heard him recently
Speaker 2: talking about that same thing, and and really that video
Speaker 2: was kind of put it all out. It went viral,
Speaker 2: and I even I think that a lot of that
Speaker 2: was in some cases not even the words that we're saying.
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, it was a ritualistic thing we were looking at. Right,
Speaker 2: and he's reading the pet Goat upside down. Now. Again,
Speaker 2: what I love about your book is you go deep
Speaker 2: into Croley's background, but then you really dive into how
Speaker 2: it ties into September eleventh, and you don't really get
Speaker 2: hung up on all this nano thermite like other authors
Speaker 2: again that we've mentioned do and so and again I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say everybody's a disinformation agent because again I
Speaker 2: followed this truth for almost fifteen years, following or for
Speaker 2: ten years, you know, nonsense. That was just to cover up. Again,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to. You know, they had key words
Speaker 2: on their websites, on their forums, which was proven by
Speaker 2: a couple of researchers things that couldn't be said Zionist
Speaker 2: doctor Judy Wood, no planes, holograms, things like this were
Speaker 2: words that as soon as they came up on the forum,
Speaker 2: they were flagged immediately. And so the truth movement was
Speaker 2: censoring from the beginning. And again, the occult aspects of
Speaker 2: this need to be discussed. And nobody really makes films
Speaker 2: or has made films really diving deep into this. I
Speaker 2: mean there's been a few, you know, you did a
Speaker 2: good job, and there's been a couple here and there,
Speaker 2: but not really films that are talking about what happened
Speaker 2: and how it ties into the occult aspects, because again,
Speaker 2: this technology was influenced by the most occult people and
Speaker 2: you and you outline that in your book very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of sad that, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, they've missed a lot of stuff. You can
Speaker 1: go back. I'm looking at Conspiracydocumentaries dot com. There's been
Speaker 1: on nine to eleven, twenty five documentaries Ryan Dawson, all
Speaker 1: these characters that have been around, and nobody really wants
Speaker 1: to mention the eleven. Nobody wants to mention all the
Speaker 1: Rockefeller stuff. I mean, that's that's really the core for me.
Speaker 1: That's really where you have to go to. So the
Speaker 1: fact that they're not doing it is I mean, I
Speaker 1: almost I have this way of looking you ever hear
Speaker 1: of like the Overton window acceptable kind of discussions, like
Speaker 1: everybody wants to stay in that and then there's a case, right,
Speaker 1: so if you're out there, the people who want you
Speaker 1: to be inside that window mock belittle you, whatever. But
Speaker 1: there's like a corollary to that, which is kind of
Speaker 1: like a sandbox where you only have gets, you don't
Speaker 1: ask too many questions. It's like an Overton sandbox where
Speaker 1: you don't really you stay in there and people want
Speaker 1: you to play in that sandbox. But if you know,
Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: And we're in that right now with this pandemic, are
Speaker 2: we not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question, absolutely, no question. I talk to people
Speaker 1: all the time. There's a lot of problems. There a
Speaker 1: lot of problems with that. I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that you that's obvious
Speaker 1: about the pandemic is that they should just go and
Speaker 1: test people to see if they have natural amenity. Then
Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about risking anything to do
Speaker 1: with the vaccines. But they're just reshaping it all the time.
Speaker 1: You got Tike your vaccine, you got Dick your vaccine,
Speaker 1: got dig your vaccine. Yeah, I should scare the crap
Speaker 1: out of you. I'm not taking the vaccine, no way.
Speaker 1: You can now put that thing in my body and
Speaker 1: I'll take COVID, I'll take care.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure again we have the same thing here.
Speaker 2: We've got we've got controlled opposition, you know, and uh
Speaker 2: you cover ups upon cover ups upon cover ups. We've
Speaker 2: got the China Wuhan story, you know, which reinforces the
Speaker 2: idea that this is, you know, killing us and dropping dead, right,
Speaker 2: and it's dangerous and deadly, and then you're.
Speaker 1: Scared to death, just like after nine to eleven, right,
Speaker 1: just scare the living crap out of people. Obama Osama
Speaker 1: bin Laden could jump out of the butchers and kill you.
Speaker 1: So they're constantly putting the fear of death into That
Speaker 1: should tell you a lot, the fact that they keep
Speaker 1: putting the fear of death into you.
Speaker 2: And it's the same players. It's the same players. I
Speaker 2: think it's important to bring up. The people who investigated
Speaker 2: nine to eleven are members of the Directed Energy Professional Society.
Speaker 2: They are founding sponsors with Booz Allen, Hamilton, Raytheon, Boeing,
Speaker 2: Lockheed Martin, but in particular sa I C which later
Speaker 2: called themselves Litos, so they're now called Lotos. Litos is
Speaker 2: the only and honestly I'm disclosing a little bit for
Speaker 2: something that I'm putting in my COVID documentary, but Litos
Speaker 2: is the only private contractor that runs the Frederick National Laboratory.
Speaker 2: So we have a private contractor that investigated September eleventh
Speaker 2: being the only private contractor in the world to get
Speaker 2: national fund from the government to do cancer research. And
Speaker 2: so anytime you hear talk about the NIH and FAUCI
Speaker 2: or the National Cancer Institute, you're actually hearing about the
Speaker 2: same people who investigated what happened on nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: a private military contractor who was given trillions for the
Speaker 2: War on Terror.
Speaker 1: They're still here's another point if you remember, Cheney said
Speaker 1: there's going to be a terrible dip in the national
Speaker 1: security payments. Right, so they were dipping off because there
Speaker 1: were no crises. But then when nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 1: they were flush with cash. Everybody got money, just like
Speaker 1: the medical cartel right now, right. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the medical carctel was really doing that just in point,
Speaker 1: but the medical cartel is now flush with cash and
Speaker 1: dominating everybody and telling you what to do. But that's
Speaker 1: what happened after nine to eleven. So you can go
Speaker 1: back and look up Dick Cheney and I think he
Speaker 1: called it the dip or cratering of the National security
Speaker 1: and all those stocks, they all went from five dollars
Speaker 1: stocks to sixty dollar stocks because they were all full cash.
Speaker 2: That's right on the level we had the insider trading
Speaker 2: and everything going on to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so nine to eleven was probably the most beneficial
Speaker 1: thing that could have happened to the Busher administration. Imaginable,
Speaker 1: I mean, played right into their hands, these these so
Speaker 1: called terrorists. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing with like when I started
Speaker 2: looking at it, doctor Judy Wood shows that these these
Speaker 2: people investigated nine to eleven. You know, they didn't hire
Speaker 2: construction companies, they didn't hire demolition companies, you know, to
Speaker 2: figure out how a building went down. They hired directed
Speaker 2: energy specialist psychological warfare. And then I realized they not
Speaker 2: only work on that, but they work on three dimensional
Speaker 2: illusion technology stealth technology for the military. So when I
Speaker 2: when I saw that the same people who investigated nine
Speaker 2: to eleven worked on this stealth technology. Really that was
Speaker 2: another point of the film. I really needed to get
Speaker 2: that out there.
Speaker 1: And where can people see nine to eleven Alchemy?
Speaker 2: It's it's available on my website, Wolflam Media dot org
Speaker 2: Slash nine one one. And what I believe you have
Speaker 2: a photo there of someone who I didn't actually create
Speaker 2: that someone yeah and made that. It's a great photo.
Speaker 2: It's a great photo. I think that was a friend
Speaker 2: Matthews's solutions. So I'm not able to put anything out
Speaker 2: on YouTube, so you have to go to my website
Speaker 2: basically to watch anything. But that's a great photo.
Speaker 1: This is this, this is your this is your cover.
Speaker 2: That is the d v D. Yeah, that's the DVD.
Speaker 2: And then actually the cover I originally used if you
Speaker 2: go to my website has a really strange cloud going
Speaker 2: through the towers. I don't know if you've seen that.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's uh, it's and it's taken the night before,
Speaker 2: like twelve hours or so, off of a boat a
Speaker 2: guy who is spending the weekend out there, and you
Speaker 2: can find his website. But it is the strangest, the strangest.
Speaker 1: I may be able to encourage this, So this is
Speaker 1: your site. If you go up to.
Speaker 2: The to the top, to the nine to eleven tab,
Speaker 2: that picture there at the very top.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the night before, just just twelve hours before.
Speaker 1: Wow, and uh, all the.
Speaker 2: Films, that's the previous film. Everything has been banned on YouTube,
Speaker 2: so you know, nothing can be watched on YouTube. I
Speaker 2: have an hour long compilation of what I called nine
Speaker 2: to eleven being predicted in Hollywood throughout the throughout the nineties.
Speaker 2: A lot of other researchers who really didn't get credit
Speaker 2: because I didn't know where a lot of this stuff
Speaker 2: come from. But I mean, you have like Neo's passport
Speaker 2: having the two thousand.
Speaker 1: It was also in the usual The usual Suspect had
Speaker 1: a nine to eleven in it, if you remember, and
Speaker 1: then also Enemy of the State, the State, enemy is in.
Speaker 2: The State, had a couple of yeah, very strange ones,
Speaker 2: and I have that actually up on my website. And
Speaker 2: that's what's weird is again, all these people make all
Speaker 2: these films about the truth, but a lot of them
Speaker 2: leave that kind of stuff out. So that's why the
Speaker 2: film's three long. It's hard to watch because it's so long,
Speaker 2: you know, you need to take that time. But it
Speaker 2: is split up in six parts. Again, most of that's
Speaker 2: been censored now. But if I left any of that out,
Speaker 2: I would have I wouldn't have felt like I've really
Speaker 2: done it justice. I really felt like I needed to
Speaker 2: include the plane issue, the destruction issue, the truth movement
Speaker 2: cover up issue, and the Hollywood issue, and especially the
Speaker 2: occult stuff. I wanted to really get it all in there.
Speaker 2: In three hours was what it took.
Speaker 1: I know. Well, here's the thing is, you probably could
Speaker 1: do twelve hours on nine to eleven. There's just so
Speaker 1: much information and so many things that happened, But it
Speaker 1: was a hyper sophisticated event.
Speaker 2: There are things that no one has ever discussed in
Speaker 2: that film. That's the reason it's really three hours. I mean,
Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to be overly. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to toot my own horn. There are really things
Speaker 2: in there that no one has ever discussed. The energy
Speaker 2: effects at Shanksville and the Pentagon, the fact that iron
Speaker 2: microspheres were found instead of jet fuel in that in
Speaker 2: that dirt there, So that was that's only consistent with
Speaker 2: one other thing, and that is the phenomenon of crop circles,
Speaker 2: which we have no idea you know, why people are
Speaker 2: able to take microwave and radiation devices into these crop
Speaker 2: circles and pick up you know, energy thoughts.
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know. So where can people see this? We're
Speaker 1: at forty minutes. Where can people go see nine eleven Alchemy?
Speaker 1: The best way can you stream it on your website straight.
Speaker 2: From my website. You can stream it straight from the
Speaker 2: nine to eleven tab there that you were just on
Speaker 2: right at the top of the page. That's the film.
Speaker 2: It's three hours. If you pause it on the website
Speaker 2: and close out and go back to it later, you
Speaker 2: can start it up. So again it's hard to watch
Speaker 2: watch it in parts. There's thirty minute sections in there.
Speaker 1: But your new movie is also going to be on
Speaker 1: Wolf Clanmedia dot Org as well. Before the eleventh, nine
Speaker 1: to eleventh of twenty twenty one, so within the next
Speaker 1: ten days too.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm going to release it on the memorial on
Speaker 2: the day. I'm going to release it on the morning.
Speaker 2: So that morning, everybody, I encourage you, don't go watch
Speaker 2: a propaganda film on Netflix. Spike Lee just put out
Speaker 2: some nonsense. So just just on the morning, you know,
Speaker 2: don't want these nonsense propaganda films. Go see my new film,
Speaker 2: which will be live on my website that morning, and
Speaker 2: it will be about half the length. It'll probably be
Speaker 2: about ninety minutes long.
Speaker 1: Cool. And that title is nine to eleven A big lie, right.
Speaker 2: The nine eleven alchemy, A big idea.
Speaker 1: A big idea. That's right. I love an alchemy, a
Speaker 1: big idea. And again, the researcher is Chris Hampton and
Speaker 1: the website is Wolf Clanmedia dot org.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Chris, Thank you so much, William,
Speaker 2: and thank you for your book.
Speaker 1: My pleasure to take care. Are you still there? Hold
Speaker 1: on