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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're laughing. How does William Ramsey Welcome to William

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey Investigates on today's show of a very special guest.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Chris Hampton. He's interviewed me about nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven and I am turning it back on him

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<v Speaker 1>and interviewing him about his film, the title of which

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<v Speaker 1>is nine to eleven Alchemy. As we're coming on to

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<v Speaker 1>September first right now, so the twenty year anniversary of

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<v Speaker 1>September eleventh is ten days away, so I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be very apropos and timely to interview him about

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<v Speaker 1>his three hour, very thorough documentary. So Chris Hampton and

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf Clan Media, are you.

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<v Speaker 2>There, yes, sir, thank you, Thank you for the great introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome well thanks for bringing to the interview for people

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<v Speaker 1>who may not know your background. Can you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf Clan Media and in some of your other projects

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<v Speaker 1>and then lead into nine to eleven Alchemy please?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? You know Wolf Clan Media really, to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, started the name at least started as kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just a media thing hip hop and doing music videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a videographer and prior to that, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>school for audio and was an audio engineer, so I

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<v Speaker 2>worked in Burbank, California, at a film studio doing post

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<v Speaker 2>production for film and during that time I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>started having a little bit of what I call an

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<v Speaker 2>awakening of what's really going on in the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially what's going on in Hollywood and the entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 2>But prior to that, I'd already kind of had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of my mind some issues with government

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<v Speaker 2>corruption obviously cover ups and false flag operations such as

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven. These were things I'd already been looking

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<v Speaker 2>at since about the age fifteen, and kind of again,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody else, part of the middle class, just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to go on with life and do what I got

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<v Speaker 2>to do, you know, family and.

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<v Speaker 1>Work, good day to day stuff. How old were you

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<v Speaker 1>when nine to eleven happened? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>I was eleven years old when I saw the Do.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember what you saw? Do you remember the sequence

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<v Speaker 1>of events like where you were and stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you resell that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was, I was ten or eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting in the living room. Actually, first I

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<v Speaker 2>heard my dad screaming, and I came out of my

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom and walked into the living room. And he's yelling

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<v Speaker 2>at the TV, same thing you've heard in many of

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<v Speaker 2>the footage, and a lot of the footage just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>screaming and disbelief. And I looked at the TV, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course the hole was already in the North Tower

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<v Speaker 2>and I was watching, and for me, it already immediately

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<v Speaker 2>felt like some type of you know, film, some type

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<v Speaker 2>of something. So I didn't really understand why why someone

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<v Speaker 2>was so upset. This is something I've seen in Independence

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<v Speaker 2>Day and movies, so it looked almost normal, supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be on television, right, And then the plane comes in

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<v Speaker 2>and it goes through behind the tower, and again to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it just was like something out of Star Wars. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just so it just didn't make sense to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and even as a kid, I just I really questioned

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<v Speaker 2>what I was seeing there.

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<v Speaker 1>So then your kind of life goes on then you

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how did you kind of get into kind

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<v Speaker 1>of conspiratorial pair of political stuff. Were you on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet or were there websites or what kind of led

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<v Speaker 1>you down that kind of route.

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<v Speaker 2>Hole. Yeah, it's a really it's a strange story, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has multiple layers. In two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 2>the film in Plane Sight came out, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>really is what led me into really investigating nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Davon Kleiss, Yeah, I realize now that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of problems with that film, and and obviously because of

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<v Speaker 2>that film, it's kind of inspired me to do my film,

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<v Speaker 2>which we can get into later. But that did get

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<v Speaker 2>me into investigating, you know, the planes, because as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I already kind of in the back of my mind

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<v Speaker 2>had a problem with what I saw, and so over

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<v Speaker 2>the couple of years two thousand and three, two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and four, I was already you know, questioning a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things, asking my teachers in school, you know, why

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<v Speaker 2>were you in Afghanistan? And you know, when they had

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with this, and you would get these

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<v Speaker 2>answers about oil and things. It was always the same,

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<v Speaker 2>and it seemed to be a shrug at the shoulders,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was just okay to invade these countries. And

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<v Speaker 2>then really what got me into nine to eleven was

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<v Speaker 2>was that film. And I followed that film, but what

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<v Speaker 2>what's so strange about it is then you find the

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<v Speaker 2>truth movement, which comes a couple of years later two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, two thousand and seven. You know, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and eight, you've got architects and engineers, the scholars,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started following right absolutely, and I really was

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<v Speaker 2>a follower. I really followed these people. I would donate

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd believe things they would say. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>the government story, the ten thousand page NIST report that

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<v Speaker 2>came out, just didn't make any sense. And the things

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<v Speaker 2>they were saying, you know, was another story. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was following this for a long time. And if we

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<v Speaker 2>fast forward to twenty sixteen, like you said, and moving

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<v Speaker 2>on with life, I started wanting to do a film

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<v Speaker 2>because I was in filmmaking, and again I was following

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<v Speaker 2>the truth movement, so I thought, what a good idea

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<v Speaker 2>to make a nine to eleven documentary. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>really unknowingly making a disinformation film and didn't even know it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was. I was gathering all this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that was so easily accessible, and it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>revelation where my father asked me one day what I

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<v Speaker 2>thought actually brought the towers down? And we were watching

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<v Speaker 2>a video and thinking about that, just using critical thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, maybe it's something you know, totally

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<v Speaker 2>classified that you know, we just don't know about. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said that he'd heard something about a Tesla oscillator

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<v Speaker 2>and Nicola Tesla with this oscillating and being able to

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<v Speaker 2>bring down a building with an oscillator and things like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that Google search turned me onto a whole

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<v Speaker 2>new area of the Internet I didn't even know existed,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know existed. And it made me realize that

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<v Speaker 2>while following the truth movement, I'd forgotten that I really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't truly believe the plane story. But this was not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to be discussed on their websites. This was a

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<v Speaker 2>no no, this was taboo, This was totally this was

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<v Speaker 2>not credited you know, good scholarly nine to eleven research.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were talking about no planes, you're on the fringe.

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<v Speaker 2>And I realized that I'd almost conformed to change my beliefs.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people watching maybe familiar with the ash conformity experiment,

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, you change your beliefs, you change your reality.

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<v Speaker 2>So that changed everything, and I started realizing that the

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<v Speaker 2>truth movement was actually censoring information. They were censoring what

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<v Speaker 2>looked to be evidence of classified high technology. And I think, honestly, William,

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<v Speaker 2>you put it the best. I think your description of

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven is one of the best I've ever heard,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was in your film. Was nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 2>was an example of the highest technology influenced ceremonial magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, no, I mean something was going on strange

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think people know. But there's weird energies

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<v Speaker 1>and actually, like you show right there that hurricane that

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<v Speaker 1>was off of the coast, like it's almost like they're

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<v Speaker 1>superpower thing like that is so fortunate for that event

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<v Speaker 1>to have that hurricane because it sucked up all the

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<v Speaker 1>year and made the today in New York perfectly clear, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like a perfectly clear And some people have

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<v Speaker 1>said that even like some of the hurricanes under the

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<v Speaker 1>Bush administration, if you remember, they like changed course and

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<v Speaker 1>things very strange, so they had funny act, yeah, fuzzy

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<v Speaker 1>action or something. But yeah, I mean you and I

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<v Speaker 1>had talked before we talked to it, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>Clark in your film. But his third law was anything

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<v Speaker 1>that expression is expression of high technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of something so absolutely there's sufficiently advanced technology

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<v Speaker 2>is indistinguishable from magic. And you put that in your

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<v Speaker 2>film as well, and I think that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>that's the key to what we're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here, And we'll just discussed about how

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<v Speaker 2>technologies are far more advanced.

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<v Speaker 1>Than more Well, we know there's a space program, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a space force in our military, but nobody knows

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<v Speaker 1>what the components are. So there's definitely a technology we

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<v Speaker 1>are there's probably a generation or two ahead of ours

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<v Speaker 1>right now, which nine to eleven, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible event anyway, So getting back to your start,

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<v Speaker 1>so you, I mean, your work is three hours long.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say that you think you were putting out

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<v Speaker 1>your initial thing was a dis info Can you think

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<v Speaker 1>can you relate to what facts that you were putting

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<v Speaker 1>out you think were incorrect at that time?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it was the nano thermite story. This nano thermite

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<v Speaker 2>story was put out almost immediately after then official government

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<v Speaker 2>story was put out. And I now am of the

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<v Speaker 2>opinion that this was a cover story, a backup for

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<v Speaker 2>people that we're going to pick apart that official government story.

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<v Speaker 2>And the main reason is because of what you just

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<v Speaker 2>brought up right there, the hurricane. The hurricane, this seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be a topic that no. Nine to eleven Truther

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<v Speaker 2>wants to discuss The Truth movement does not want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this hurricane, and they don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the planes. Now, when we go back to me

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<v Speaker 2>putting out disinformation about in regards to nano thermite, this

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<v Speaker 2>story of nano thermite comes from a man named Stephen E. Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can go to Stephen E. Jones Wikipedia page

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<v Speaker 2>and you can see that he worked for many military laboratories,

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<v Speaker 2>including Los Alamos, which specializes in classified technology, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was an insider for the Department of Energy in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighties. When Pons and Fleischmann, scientists from the University

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<v Speaker 2>of Utah, discovered cold fusion in the eighties, they applied

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<v Speaker 2>for funding through the Department of Energy. Well, through that application,

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen E. Jones was notified and he was able to

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<v Speaker 2>help to fabricate data to basically discredit these two scientists

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<v Speaker 2>and totally debunk cold fusion. And even later that year

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<v Speaker 2>it was put into the Back to the Future film,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's totally science fiction. Right now, this guy becomes

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<v Speaker 2>the head of the Truth movement. He created basically the

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<v Speaker 2>Truth movement almost thirty years later. It's absolutely susprict.

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<v Speaker 1>To cold fusion works, right, I mean, there is some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of process that takes place between Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, there's cover much evidence and honestly, let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and be accurate here. There's muon catalyzed fusion, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>the correct term is low energy nuclear reactions Lennar. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to type in l E n R

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<v Speaker 2>on Google right now, you're going to find so much

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<v Speaker 2>evidence all across the world different countries of cold fusion

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<v Speaker 2>of basically putting in less and getting out more energy.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is not necessarily free energy, but it's extremely cheap,

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<v Speaker 2>extremely clean and clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that had to be I mean, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>always been battles against alternate energy sources, going back from

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<v Speaker 1>gas to the gas companies. Rock of Diesel died mysteriously,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, who created the diesel engine. They have

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<v Speaker 1>another guy who created a hydrogen car. He died. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to look at the history of the electric

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<v Speaker 1>car that came out, that whole thing, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>documentary about that. Somebody from the old companies just came

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<v Speaker 1>of it was shaped. You know. One thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they've spread awareness two nine to eleven. Maybe, But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time they've helped to cover up advanced technology,

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<v Speaker 2>technology that could change the world for the better. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the implications, it's totally incredible. But as we know, the

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<v Speaker 2>same people who built those towers the same year that

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one movie was being made, the Rockefellers,

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<v Speaker 2>now people who are running the Rockefeller tied back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gates Foundation, and we've got this whole new COVID

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<v Speaker 2>thing going on. Right, So we see the same we

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<v Speaker 2>see the same same place, same characters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same same background. But yeah, the Rockefeller is incredibly powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>So those two buildings were known as Nelson and David, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were being builded really was on Rockefeller Land.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole infrastructures, hyper occult, the spherical Carrea. I did

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<v Speaker 1>Az and Jash, and there's all kinds of references. It

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<v Speaker 1>just goes on very sophisticated, I should add, like very very.

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<v Speaker 2>Much, and and there and again this is why I

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<v Speaker 2>just felt so upset. Really not so much because I

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<v Speaker 2>become rich and famous, similar to the other evil nonprofit

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<v Speaker 2>Rockefeller Foundations, Clinton Foundations, you know these To me, these

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<v Speaker 2>were were no different. They were they were doing the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. And really it seemed that I'd been fooled.

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<v Speaker 2>And again it was not because I donated and followed.

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<v Speaker 2>It is because I was working on a film and

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to push information that I now saw to

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<v Speaker 2>be totally a cover totally a cover up. And if

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<v Speaker 2>we go back to like the energy thing, you have

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<v Speaker 2>people like Stanley Meyer. So if you start going down this,

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<v Speaker 2>Stanley Meyer developed a famous water powered car. Right, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds crazy, but I mean these things existed and he

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<v Speaker 2>was taken out. I mean he drove this doom buggy

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<v Speaker 2>from from one coast to the other coast on gallons

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<v Speaker 2>of water. I mean it's insane, you know, converting to

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<v Speaker 2>hydrogen fuel cells and things like this. So this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely exists. And really, who's in my film and who

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<v Speaker 2>who was being covered up was doctor Judy Wood. She

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<v Speaker 2>wrote the book Where Did the Towers Go? Where she

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<v Speaker 2>outlines the evidence of directed free energy technology being used

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<v Speaker 2>to make two buildings disappear within eight to twelve seconds each.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean nothing can do that. And then no paper burns,

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, there's all good. She called a justification, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that her term exactly? Because that's it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these things turn, they're not large clumps, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>see the pictures of it right now. Something happened very unusual,

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<v Speaker 1>and you almost don't see the element of like a blast,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't see the black smoke or red flames

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<v Speaker 1>or anything that's consistent with standard explosive charges or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you said that. I see. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>people can't really see that. And again me, for fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see it. I thought that was an explosion.

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<v Speaker 2>I would even urge people to again just to look

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<v Speaker 2>at that and ask yourself, are you looking at a collapse?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you looking at an explosion? I mean it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like that building is turning to dust?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I mean yeah. I mean even you can

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<v Speaker 1>go and see the site. It's incredible because even at

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<v Speaker 1>the Twin Towers when they fell, there should have been

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<v Speaker 1>huge block I mean there were some, and they affected

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<v Speaker 1>other sides of the buildings, but there really wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>a rubble pile forty stories or fifty stories to like

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<v Speaker 1>three stories. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And and to your point, like you just said about

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<v Speaker 2>the buildings, you would hear the truth movement they still

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<v Speaker 2>say this, three buildings were destroyed with two airplanes, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like no, No, seven buildings were destroyed with two airplanes.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven buildings. There was a scooped out hole taken out

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<v Speaker 2>of World Trade Center six. And I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>truth movement talks about World Trade Center seven as this

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<v Speaker 2>smoking gun, when actually World Trade Center six is the

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<v Speaker 2>smoking gun. You can go to the Wikipedia page and

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me what did that? Is it bombs? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? I mean, is it plane debris? Is it that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the World Trade Center six? And so again all

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<v Speaker 2>seven buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, No, there was something else going on. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something much more important. I think Judy Wood has been

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<v Speaker 1>maligned if I remember correctly, but she's shown other pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of like cars that aren't to anything, just incinerated. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of weird things that happened that day. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that her research. She talks about the hurricane too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like the audit of the hurricane. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's the thing. My My goal of my

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<v Speaker 2>film was more about the airplanes, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the airplanes, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So finding her research really helped me to break out

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<v Speaker 2>of this cognitive dissonance and and it realized that the

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<v Speaker 2>truth movement was helping to cover up the airplanes. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when I did the film, there's multiple goals I set

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<v Speaker 2>out to do, but one of the main ones was

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<v Speaker 2>to prove that the videos were real. I started watching

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<v Speaker 2>films like Simon Shack's September Clues and Ace Baker's Great

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<v Speaker 2>American Sire Opera. And there's other films that have been

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<v Speaker 2>made again, like The Change Loose Change, which was another

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<v Speaker 2>guy Internet blockbuster, right, But there was.

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<v Speaker 1>Another guy too who did a really good movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>The Airplane the mcdan. There's quite a few, not nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as many as there are about the destruction of the towers,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are there are quite a few, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some good ones. And some of these are Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>again internet blockbusters, you know, they're streaming on Amazon and Netflix,

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<v Speaker 2>and they all have a theme. They're either promoting the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of a fake plane composited in or cgi'ed, or

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of a reinforced you know, military plane, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or something with something attached to the bottom of pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Avery outright says you can see it shooting a

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<v Speaker 2>missile right before it impacts. It's like, no, you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>but he says that, and then I realized, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>these people are purposely ignoring something. Dylan Avery had a

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<v Speaker 2>document from the Air Force twenty twenty five, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>title of it. And here we are coming up on this.

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<v Speaker 2>On the cover, you have people with virtual reality glasses,

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<v Speaker 2>holograms in the air, and he's talking about voice morphing

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<v Speaker 2>technology in relation to this document and how the phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls couldn't possibly have happened from the air, which I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's using this document and he's talking about voice morphing,

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about one section. He skips over a whole

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<v Speaker 2>section of the document to discuss the voice morphing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I realized the section he's skipped over is all about

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<v Speaker 2>illusion technology, stealth technology, holograms if you will, which is

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<v Speaker 2>an inappropriate, incorrect term to use. It is three dimensional

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<v Speaker 2>volumetric ghost objects that appear to float in mid air

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<v Speaker 2>for psychological warfare. These are things that we're discussed in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety nine. I think even the Washington Post covered it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's been totally removed now. But again, Dylan Avery

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to skip right over this and go on to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about his pod theory. Now, to me, that's someone

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<v Speaker 2>who had a theory and was looking for evidence to

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<v Speaker 2>fit the theory, rather than looking at evidence to develop

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<v Speaker 2>a theory, and so I'd set out to show that

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<v Speaker 2>these people must have done this on purpose. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have possibly skipped over that by accident. And there are

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<v Speaker 2>other things with the other filmmakers that would show things

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<v Speaker 2>that would say this is CGI when clearly they knew

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't and skipped over things, and as a video

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<v Speaker 2>editor I had to I felt an obligation to speak

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<v Speaker 2>out that this is not video fakery. We even got

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where people were saying the jumpers were CGI.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and that's not true. They're falling, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of them dead in reports of people saying, there's

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<v Speaker 1>actually if you I don't know if you've seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fire people were going through the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the towers and you could hear the audio of the

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<v Speaker 1>bodies dropping on a.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely and I don't believe any of it was CGI.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't believe, So you're you're not a no planer.

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<v Speaker 1>You believe the planes are real.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the videos are real and the planes are fake.

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<v Speaker 2>So so I believe the planes were some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>stealth technology, which I expand on more in the next film.

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<v Speaker 2>But again this seemed to be a common theme the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Another great one is Ace Baker. He works for companies

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<v Speaker 2>that actually did the two thousand and eight hologram election

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<v Speaker 2>thing on CNN. They beamed hologram into the CNN studios

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and eight for the election. This company

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven Truther, works for him, and he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about CGI. So the whole no Planer to me, seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a thing I had to ask the question,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'll ask now, why why would people purposely ignore

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<v Speaker 2>things about illusion technology and stealth technology and promote the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of CGI and video fakery. And if these people

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<v Speaker 2>truly believe there were no planes in New York City

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<v Speaker 2>that day and were able to make these blockbuster films,

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<v Speaker 2>why would they not discuss that issue? And why would

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<v Speaker 2>they also blame all these amateur vide geographers just like myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a personal thing there of video fakery.

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<v Speaker 2>They either had to be complicit and part of this

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<v Speaker 2>government conspiracy they're all Masons, or they were visited by

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI with on the day of nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>their footage was snatched and then they were taken back

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<v Speaker 2>and doctored. You know, it's that, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't the two French brothers, the nod Day brothers

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<v Speaker 1>who filmed eleven now hitting the building, and they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just why they were on site.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very They were given access in twenty fifteen to

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<v Speaker 2>the CIA, every living director of the CIA. They made

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<v Speaker 2>a documentary that's on Netflix. I do not believe the

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<v Speaker 2>Nowaday brothers were amateur videographers. So now you see I'm

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<v Speaker 2>almost conflicting myself. So again, but these these guys were

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<v Speaker 2>French professional guys there to film, right the firefighters. There's

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<v Speaker 2>even a witness there's even a witness down there who says,

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<v Speaker 2>these firefighters been out here all day, look like they're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for something, like they knew this was coming, that

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<v Speaker 2>was on the day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's speculation, but it is it is suspicious. And why

419
00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:16.559
<v Speaker 2>were these people, these two videographers given access to the CIA,

420
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, years a decade later, you know, decades later, So.

421
00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make any sense. There's a lot of suspicious stuff.

422
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>But so so you think that the planes were not

423
00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.319
<v Speaker 1>CGI but were some form of stealth technology. Is that

424
00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying.

425
00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I think we all witnessed an illusion in real time.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so how was that illusion created? Do you think

427
00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.799
<v Speaker 1>that's but the towers were there and not there, so

428
00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.519
<v Speaker 1>that was a real event, exactly whatever, And.

429
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing again that started becoming a thing with

430
00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the VIC sims. These these victims are simulated CGI vicxims.

431
00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:59.200
<v Speaker 2>And if you'll notice, me and you discussed that started

432
00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to become a bit of a topic in these shootings,

433
00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:05.200
<v Speaker 2>which we know are occult rituals. For the most part,

434
00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:10.079
<v Speaker 2>these mass shootings that are happening are very much connected

435
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>to the occult world and very much false flags. You

436
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>can always find.

437
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Someone go to MK hole through some of those people.

438
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Are zapped out of their brains and there just getting out.

439
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.319
<v Speaker 1>And he was probably one of the first kind of.

440
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:30.319
<v Speaker 2>The right, these lone nuts. And so again why it

441
00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.119
<v Speaker 2>begs the question, why would nine to eleven truthers that

442
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.960
<v Speaker 2>are just like me and you seeking the truth start

443
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:43.400
<v Speaker 2>pushing the idea of victim victims and then even right

444
00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and you would think, yeah, I wouldn't take that seriously.

445
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.759
<v Speaker 1>But I believe all those truth movements were all infiltrated

446
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:53.039
<v Speaker 1>by assets of someone or another. I would assume government.

447
00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:56.160
<v Speaker 2>And all that stuff went viral. Really it is. If

448
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.200
<v Speaker 2>you look at the creation of the Internet, it is

449
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 2>it is right there with nine to eleven conspiracy films.

450
00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the rise of the Internet and the rise

451
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.440
<v Speaker 2>of nine to eleven conspiracy films go hand in hand. Yeah,

452
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>they're really just a strange.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that even some of the talking heads

454
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>pundits today I wouldn't be I mean, I don't want

455
00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>to get into the real name could but some of

456
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>these people clearly are assets. They're Intel assets or.

457
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so.

458
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So getting back to alchemy, So, I mean, your

459
00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:33.640
<v Speaker 1>your book, your documentary believes that some kind of alchemical

460
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>change happened on nine to eleven.

461
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Well, the reason I called it alchemy, Sorry, so

462
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the reason I called it alchemy, the reason I called

463
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.440
<v Speaker 2>it alchemy was really just a hunch. I'd started learning

464
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that transmutation took place. I'd started looking into John Hutchison,

465
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously because of doctor Judy Woods book Where Did the

466
00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Towers Go? And she compared the evidence of nine to

467
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 2>eleven at New York City to the experiments of John

468
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Hutchison and John Hutchison as well has been totally ridiculed,

469
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 2>And I've noticed that they were both really getting ridiculed.

470
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>The Truth movement would say, you know, space beams, and

471
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I actually think this is some type of like reverse

472
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 2>psychology type of thing with the whole space beams, because

473
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.759
<v Speaker 2>again we know that a space weapons program has existed

474
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.759
<v Speaker 2>since the Reagan era. It's been kept secret, and the

475
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:28.119
<v Speaker 2>space Force is nothing new. And again we don't know

476
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the components of what's going on up there, but we

477
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>can find evidence of particle beam weapons being tested in

478
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the eighties, nineteen eighty nine, bear, which is the what

479
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.119
<v Speaker 2>is it here? The beam aboard a rocket. So the beam,

480
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 2>a particle beam weapon aboard a rocket was tested at

481
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>proving that a directed energy weapon could be operated in

482
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:51.680
<v Speaker 2>space in nineteen eighty nine, and so we have that evidence.

483
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm of the opinion that the illusion technology we

484
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 2>saw on September eleventh was part of in some way

485
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>almost the same type of mechanism or component of what

486
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>destroyed the buildings, what created that plane shaped silhouette almost

487
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.079
<v Speaker 2>like a cartoon cutout of an airplane in both the

488
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 2>towers and the hole in the ground in Shanksville. You know,

489
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to me, this is all directed energy holograms or three

490
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>dimensional volumetric objects would be induced using things like laser,

491
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 2>which is a form of directed energy. So to me,

492
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>it is all directed energy. And what doctor Judy Wood

493
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>tries to show is that by studying this and understanding

494
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the destruction, at least the destruction part, then we can

495
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>all as a collective really understand that free energy exists.

496
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>We do not need to be operating our cars on

497
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>gasoline and paying these bills to the Rockefeller or let

498
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.519
<v Speaker 2>alone giving thirty thousand dollars to Elon Musk for his

499
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>miracle electric vehicle for the luxurious, rich upper class. But

500
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I really set out more to prove that this technology

501
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 2>of this illusion exists and it's more important than the

502
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>rest of it. And I don't like really saying that

503
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.559
<v Speaker 2>it's more important, but to a degree it is, because

504
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 2>once you uncover illusion technology, it's no longer a weapon.

505
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 2>It can no longer be used against you. And what

506
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 2>are the implications of that. I mean, you think about

507
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>films and sci fi films like Independence Day and the

508
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>way that the White House was destroyed in Independence Day

509
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>very similar, which by the way, which psychologically I don't

510
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>know what happened there, but the sales of that film

511
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>statistically went through the roof the day after nine to eleven,

512
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 2>something someone pointed out to me and I verified, which

513
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>is just so strange that people decided to go to

514
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Blockbuster in Hollywood Video right after in two thousand and

515
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>one to go rent Independence Day. We saw something that

516
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 2>day and we didn't understand.

517
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 1>What we saw, right, Yeah, No, it's crazy.

518
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Like you said in your film the highest technology influenced

519
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Ceremonial Magic, my new film is all about the occult aspects,

520
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>which also seem to be totally ignored by the truth movement. No,

521
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>no more talk about Crowley. They don't want to talk

522
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>about you. Start bringing up numbers around these people and

523
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>put them in the looney bin, put a straight jacket

524
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>on him. He's talking about the numbers or me.

525
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's I have no question. That would

526
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>never invite me in anywhere into the nine to eleven

527
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 1>truth movement. When is your new documentary done? It's not

528
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 1>done yet, is it.

529
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 2>It is basically done. It's being critiqued, peer reviewed, and

530
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it will be released on the anniversary. And actually I've

531
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>got your book featured in the new film, so that'll

532
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 2>be great.

533
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a title? Do you have a title

534
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you can disclose.

535
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.119
<v Speaker 2>The title is nine to eleven Alchemy a big idea,

536
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>either a big idea or the Big Idea, which it's

537
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>a big idea.

538
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like something George Bush Senior would say.

539
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>He did say it. He said it many times in

540
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>relation to the New World Order, which you pointed out

541
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>in your book and in your film, and he also

542
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>talked about the law. Now, to me, this big idea

543
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.279
<v Speaker 2>is the new World Order, and I actually found some

544
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>very very strange, cryptic clues from the media out this

545
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>big Idea interesting.

546
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to seeing that. So where will people

547
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 1>be able to find that? On your website?

548
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 2>My website is Wolfclanmedia dot org.

549
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Wolf Clan Media. I'm gonna put her in the show

550
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>notes Wolf as long as this one is it three

551
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>hours long?

552
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>No, it will not be three hours long. I know

553
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>the last one is very difficult for people to see,

554
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 2>but it's important. I didn't want to leave anything out.

555
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to to really, I wanted to address that

556
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>plane issue. I wanted to vindicate all of the amateur

557
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>videographers who I've personally spoken with, many of them do

558
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 2>not want to be part of this a lot of

559
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>them had trouble getting jobs because you would look up

560
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>this Jennifer spell for instance, you would look her up,

561
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 2>say you're an employer trying to hire her as a videographer,

562
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>and you look her up Spellbinding fakery, the nine to

563
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>eleven hoax, you know, things like this, and it had

564
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 2>had trouble getting jobs. I wanted to vindicate these amazing

565
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>videographers who just aptured something that they couldn't explain that day,

566
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and I really wanted to do that in a way

567
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't vindicating the mainstream media. And I've still to

568
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.079
<v Speaker 2>this day been accused of vindicating the mainstream media by

569
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>promoting this hologram theory rather than the video fakery. Because again,

570
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>if any side of the truth movement were to talk

571
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 2>about the planes, they're either going to say that the

572
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 2>mainstream media basically put fake videos in there, and so

573
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>by me debunking that, I'm debunking the mainstream media. But

574
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 2>in no way am I doing that. They are so complicit.

575
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 2>They didn't report the hurricane, and I would say honestly

576
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that they put out the truth movement's biggest talking points.

577
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Larry Silverstein came out and said, yeah, we were told

578
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 2>to pull it. Do you think that was an accident

579
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 2>that mainstream media ran and that No, absolutely not. That

580
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was so the truth movement could run with that for

581
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 2>the next twenty years and keep all of us entangled

582
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 2>in this arguing of what really happened. And I think

583
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 2>the core about what me and you get to in

584
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.119
<v Speaker 2>this new film and in your book especially is what

585
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 2>is the end goal? What's the point? Let's not argue

586
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 2>about all the physical, you know, aspects of what actually happened,

587
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>even though it's very important. What was the point of

588
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:13.599
<v Speaker 2>September eleventh, Right?

589
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 1>What was the point? Right?

590
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a big idea.

591
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a big idea. Here's the thing. It's been

592
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty years. We know what's happened. We just ended a

593
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty year war, longest war in history in Afghanistan, invaded Iraq,

594
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 1>put in the Patriot Act, huge surveillance, state pumping and

595
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 1>dumping the entire economy from two thousand and one to

596
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, interest rates through zero the end,

597
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the whole economy was wrecked. I think that was obviously intentional.

598
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>So somebody who's well, the Wizard of Oz was pulling

599
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the strings the whole time. For that whole event, And

600
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can go in, you can go into

601
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 1>to bush at the you know when he's talking to

602
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the kids. You ever see that video where like the

603
00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>kids are people chanting, plane building die. You know, it's incredible. Yeah, And.

604
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>But again there's been so much put out. I mean

605
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 2>there's been that video was viral for a while there,

606
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 2>and you had Honestly, I'm gonna go ahead and say,

607
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>there we talked about a little bit about S. K. Bain,

608
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 2>the author of another book, and I heard him recently

609
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 2>talking about that same thing, and and really that video

610
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>was kind of put it all out. It went viral,

611
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and I even I think that a lot of that

612
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>was in some cases not even the words that we're saying.

613
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But nevertheless, it was a ritualistic thing we were looking at. Right,

614
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and he's reading the pet Goat upside down. Now. Again,

615
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>what I love about your book is you go deep

616
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>into Croley's background, but then you really dive into how

617
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 2>it ties into September eleventh, and you don't really get

618
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>hung up on all this nano thermite like other authors

619
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>again that we've mentioned do and so and again I'm

620
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 2>not gonna say everybody's a disinformation agent because again I

621
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>followed this truth for almost fifteen years, following or for

622
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 2>ten years, you know, nonsense. That was just to cover up. Again,

623
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 2>they didn't want to. You know, they had key words

624
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>on their websites, on their forums, which was proven by

625
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a couple of researchers things that couldn't be said Zionist

626
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 2>doctor Judy Wood, no planes, holograms, things like this were

627
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>words that as soon as they came up on the forum,

628
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:26.880
<v Speaker 2>they were flagged immediately. And so the truth movement was

629
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>censoring from the beginning. And again, the occult aspects of

630
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>this need to be discussed. And nobody really makes films

631
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 2>or has made films really diving deep into this. I

632
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>mean there's been a few, you know, you did a

633
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 2>good job, and there's been a couple here and there,

634
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 2>but not really films that are talking about what happened

635
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and how it ties into the occult aspects, because again,

636
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>this technology was influenced by the most occult people and

637
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you and you outline that in your book very well.

638
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of sad that, in

639
00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, they've missed a lot of stuff. You can

640
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>go back. I'm looking at Conspiracydocumentaries dot com. There's been

641
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:11.159
<v Speaker 1>on nine to eleven, twenty five documentaries Ryan Dawson, all

642
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>these characters that have been around, and nobody really wants

643
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>to mention the eleven. Nobody wants to mention all the

644
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Rockefeller stuff. I mean, that's that's really the core for me.

645
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.599
<v Speaker 1>That's really where you have to go to. So the

646
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>fact that they're not doing it is I mean, I

647
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>almost I have this way of looking you ever hear

648
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 1>of like the Overton window acceptable kind of discussions, like

649
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.119
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to stay in that and then there's a case, right,

650
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>so if you're out there, the people who want you

651
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 1>to be inside that window mock belittle you, whatever. But

652
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.639
<v Speaker 1>there's like a corollary to that, which is kind of

653
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 1>like a sandbox where you only have gets, you don't

654
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 1>ask too many questions. It's like an Overton sandbox where

655
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 1>you don't really you stay in there and people want

656
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 1>you to play in that sandbox. But if you know,

657
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it's uh yeah, it's.

658
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And we're in that right now with this pandemic, are

659
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<v Speaker 2>we not?

660
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no question, absolutely, no question. I talk to people

661
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 1>all the time. There's a lot of problems. There a

662
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>lot of problems with that. I mean, here's the thing.

663
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one of the things that you that's obvious

664
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<v Speaker 1>about the pandemic is that they should just go and

665
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>test people to see if they have natural amenity. Then

666
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to worry about risking anything to do

667
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>with the vaccines. But they're just reshaping it all the time.

668
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>You got Tike your vaccine, you got Dick your vaccine,

669
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 1>got dig your vaccine. Yeah, I should scare the crap

670
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<v Speaker 1>out of you. I'm not taking the vaccine, no way.

671
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 1>You can now put that thing in my body and

672
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll take COVID, I'll take care.

673
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure again we have the same thing here.

674
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 2>We've got we've got controlled opposition, you know, and uh

675
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you cover ups upon cover ups upon cover ups. We've

676
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 2>got the China Wuhan story, you know, which reinforces the

677
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 2>idea that this is, you know, killing us and dropping dead, right,

678
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's dangerous and deadly, and then you're.

679
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Scared to death, just like after nine to eleven, right,

680
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>just scare the living crap out of people. Obama Osama

681
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>bin Laden could jump out of the butchers and kill you.

682
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>So they're constantly putting the fear of death into That

683
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 1>should tell you a lot, the fact that they keep

684
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 1>putting the fear of death into you.

685
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's the same players. It's the same players. I

686
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>think it's important to bring up. The people who investigated

687
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven are members of the Directed Energy Professional Society.

688
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>They are founding sponsors with Booz Allen, Hamilton, Raytheon, Boeing,

689
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Lockheed Martin, but in particular sa I C which later

690
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>called themselves Litos, so they're now called Lotos. Litos is

691
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>the only and honestly I'm disclosing a little bit for

692
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>something that I'm putting in my COVID documentary, but Litos

693
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>is the only private contractor that runs the Frederick National Laboratory.

694
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<v Speaker 2>So we have a private contractor that investigated September eleventh

695
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>being the only private contractor in the world to get

696
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 2>national fund from the government to do cancer research. And

697
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>so anytime you hear talk about the NIH and FAUCI

698
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>or the National Cancer Institute, you're actually hearing about the

699
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>same people who investigated what happened on nine to eleven,

700
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 2>a private military contractor who was given trillions for the

701
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>War on Terror.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still here's another point if you remember, Cheney said

703
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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a terrible dip in the national

704
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>security payments. Right, so they were dipping off because there

705
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>were no crises. But then when nine to eleven happened,

706
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they were flush with cash. Everybody got money, just like

707
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the medical cartel right now, right. I don't know if

708
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the medical carctel was really doing that just in point,

709
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>but the medical cartel is now flush with cash and

710
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>dominating everybody and telling you what to do. But that's

711
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>what happened after nine to eleven. So you can go

712
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 1>back and look up Dick Cheney and I think he

713
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 1>called it the dip or cratering of the National security

714
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and all those stocks, they all went from five dollars

715
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>stocks to sixty dollar stocks because they were all full cash.

716
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:04.119
<v Speaker 2>That's right on the level we had the insider trading

717
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 2>and everything going on to.

718
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so nine to eleven was probably the most beneficial

719
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>thing that could have happened to the Busher administration. Imaginable,

720
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, played right into their hands, these these so

721
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>called terrorists. Yeah.

722
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's the thing with like when I started

723
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>looking at it, doctor Judy Wood shows that these these

724
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>people investigated nine to eleven. You know, they didn't hire

725
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 2>construction companies, they didn't hire demolition companies, you know, to

726
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>figure out how a building went down. They hired directed

727
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>energy specialist psychological warfare. And then I realized they not

728
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 2>only work on that, but they work on three dimensional

729
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 2>illusion technology stealth technology for the military. So when I

730
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<v Speaker 2>when I saw that the same people who investigated nine

731
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<v Speaker 2>to eleven worked on this stealth technology. Really that was

732
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 2>another point of the film. I really needed to get

733
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 2>that out there.

734
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 1>And where can people see nine to eleven Alchemy?

735
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 2>It's it's available on my website, Wolflam Media dot org

736
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<v Speaker 2>Slash nine one one. And what I believe you have

737
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<v Speaker 2>a photo there of someone who I didn't actually create

738
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<v Speaker 2>that someone yeah and made that. It's a great photo.

739
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<v Speaker 2>It's a great photo. I think that was a friend

740
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<v Speaker 2>Matthews's solutions. So I'm not able to put anything out

741
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube, so you have to go to my website

742
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>basically to watch anything. But that's a great photo.

743
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<v Speaker 1>This is this, this is your this is your cover.

744
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<v Speaker 2>That is the d v D. Yeah, that's the DVD.

745
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.719
<v Speaker 2>And then actually the cover I originally used if you

746
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>go to my website has a really strange cloud going

747
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 2>through the towers. I don't know if you've seen that.

748
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.400
<v Speaker 2>It's uh, it's uh, it's and it's taken the night before,

749
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.679
<v Speaker 2>like twelve hours or so, off of a boat a

750
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 2>guy who is spending the weekend out there, and you

751
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>can find his website. But it is the strangest, the strangest.

752
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I may be able to encourage this, So this is

753
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 1>your site. If you go up to.

754
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<v Speaker 2>The to the top, to the nine to eleven tab,

755
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that picture there at the very top.

756
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's wrong.

757
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the night before, just just twelve hours before.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and uh, all the.

759
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<v Speaker 2>Films, that's the previous film. Everything has been banned on YouTube,

760
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:18.159
<v Speaker 2>so you know, nothing can be watched on YouTube. I

761
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>have an hour long compilation of what I called nine

762
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to eleven being predicted in Hollywood throughout the throughout the nineties.

763
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 2>A lot of other researchers who really didn't get credit

764
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know where a lot of this stuff

765
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.760
<v Speaker 2>come from. But I mean, you have like Neo's passport

766
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 2>having the two thousand.

767
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>It was also in the usual The usual Suspect had

768
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 1>a nine to eleven in it, if you remember, and

769
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 1>then also Enemy of the State, the State, enemy is in.

770
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>The State, had a couple of yeah, very strange ones,

771
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and I have that actually up on my website. And

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00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.159
<v Speaker 2>that's what's weird is again, all these people make all

773
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 2>these films about the truth, but a lot of them

774
00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>leave that kind of stuff out. So that's why the

775
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>film's three long. It's hard to watch because it's so long,

776
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, you need to take that time. But it

777
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 2>is split up in six parts. Again, most of that's

778
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.519
<v Speaker 2>been censored now. But if I left any of that out,

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00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I would have I wouldn't have felt like I've really

780
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>done it justice. I really felt like I needed to

781
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>include the plane issue, the destruction issue, the truth movement

782
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>cover up issue, and the Hollywood issue, and especially the

783
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 2>occult stuff. I wanted to really get it all in there.

784
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 2>In three hours was what it took.

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00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I know. Well, here's the thing is, you probably could

786
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 1>do twelve hours on nine to eleven. There's just so

787
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>much information and so many things that happened, But it

788
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>was a hyper sophisticated event.

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00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 2>There are things that no one has ever discussed in

790
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>that film. That's the reason it's really three hours. I mean,

791
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not trying to be overly. You know, I'm

792
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 2>not trying to toot my own horn. There are really things

793
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.039
<v Speaker 2>in there that no one has ever discussed. The energy

794
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 2>effects at Shanksville and the Pentagon, the fact that iron

795
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>microspheres were found instead of jet fuel in that in

796
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 2>that dirt there, So that was that's only consistent with

797
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 2>one other thing, and that is the phenomenon of crop circles,

798
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 2>which we have no idea you know, why people are

799
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 2>able to take microwave and radiation devices into these crop

800
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>circles and pick up you know, energy thoughts.

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00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, you know. So where can people see this? We're

802
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>at forty minutes. Where can people go see nine eleven Alchemy?

803
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>The best way can you stream it on your website straight.

804
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>From my website. You can stream it straight from the

805
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven tab there that you were just on

806
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>right at the top of the page. That's the film.

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00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 2>It's three hours. If you pause it on the website

808
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 2>and close out and go back to it later, you

809
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>can start it up. So again it's hard to watch

810
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>watch it in parts. There's thirty minute sections in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But your new movie is also going to be on

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00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Wolf Clanmedia dot Org as well. Before the eleventh, nine

813
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 1>to eleventh of twenty twenty one, so within the next

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<v Speaker 1>ten days too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm going to release it on the memorial on

816
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 2>the day. I'm going to release it on the morning.

817
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 2>So that morning, everybody, I encourage you, don't go watch

818
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 2>a propaganda film on Netflix. Spike Lee just put out

819
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.599
<v Speaker 2>some nonsense. So just just on the morning, you know,

820
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>don't want these nonsense propaganda films. Go see my new film,

821
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>which will be live on my website that morning, and

822
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it will be about half the length. It'll probably be

823
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:09.599
<v Speaker 2>about ninety minutes long.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. And that title is nine to eleven A big lie, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The nine eleven alchemy, A big idea.

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<v Speaker 1>A big idea. That's right. I love an alchemy, a

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00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 1>big idea. And again, the researcher is Chris Hampton and

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<v Speaker 1>the website is Wolf Clanmedia dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Chris, Thank you so much, William,

830
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<v Speaker 2>and thank you for your book.

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<v Speaker 1>My pleasure to take care. Are you still there? Hold

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<v Speaker 1>on