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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference,

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Speaker 1: That's at A L L S P O r T

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S d A c C. I'm going to turn it

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over to Matthew now as we get the podcast start.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the longest running independent acc podcast in the country.

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This is Matthew.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for the great introduction.

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Speaker 3: Jeff. I guess we're at episode if I'm not mistaken, Jeff,

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I think tonight is. If I'm not mistaken, correct me

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if I'm wrong. I think we're at episode five sixty

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five tonight, which is quite a milestone. I mean, sometime

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in twenty twenty six we're going to be hitting six

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hundred episode, So that's pretty good for a site like this.

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We get to get we get get some pretty.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good traffic.

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Speaker 3: I think we're probably one of the most well known

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independent ACC blogs and podcasts and podcasts out there. That's

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good news for us. Let me just run through the

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through the ACC football scores. If you were on vacation,

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or if you're out of the country or whatever, or

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if you had a fall wedding, you didn't have a

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chance to catch up on football.

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Speaker 2: Boston.

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Speaker 3: Boston College absolutely got smashed by Pittsburgh forty eight to seven.

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Clemson went into North Carolina and burned them thirty eight

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to ten. Wake Forrest took advantage of a bunch of

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Virginia Tech mistakes and one thirty to twenty three in Blacksburg.

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The Wolfpack rebounded to their loss at Virginia to the

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Virginia Tech and they defeated Campbell fifty six to ten.

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And perhaps the game of the week and the ACC

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the number nineteen. Virginia Cavaliers beat Louisville at overtime thirty

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to twenty seven. SMU defeated Syracuse thirty one to eighteen.

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Miami defeated Florida State twenty eight to twenty two. I

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guess we can put that up there for a Game

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 3: We'll put that up. We can say two of them

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they're right. And finally a Duke, who is playing some

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extremely good football right now, defeated Cal forty five to

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twenty one. This game, of course, is on the West Coast,

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and I feel we can at this point, Jeff, we

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can probably call it ACC after Dark, which I think

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I kind of enjoy that. I'm gonna start, I'm going

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to start saying that ACC after Dark weecause they're giving

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Cal a lot of these these ten thirty pm time slots,

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and I feel like I feel like at this.

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Speaker 4: Point that is the accs we should own that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like SMU could have you know, a later

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a later game. They're in the Central time zone, but

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I still feel like that they could have a later

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Speaker 4: So I mean, it was, you know, it was.

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Speaker 3: A pretty pretty hardcore week here. But who do you

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think was the most disappointing football team in the ACC

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in Week six? And on the flip side, Jeff, who

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was the most impressive team for you?

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Speaker 1: I'd put on Cal as one of my most disappointing teams.

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Like you said, Matthew Duke is playing very well, you know, Mensa,

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the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Is really on fire.

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Speaker 1: But this was an opportunity for Cal to kind of say, hey,

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we're going to be a factor in the ACC race

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this year. I mean, then they opened up the game,

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you know, really really hot. I think they were up

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twenty one seven at one point, and then the offense

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just shut down under and under duke. And you know

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when when this happened a couple of weeks ago for

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Cal against San Diego State where they just got you know,

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hammered thirty four zero. But you'd also seen some some

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quality performances at a out of Cal.

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Speaker 2: You know, they'd beaten Minnesota, they'd went on the road.

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Speaker 1: But he's BC and and you looked at the quarterback, Jks.

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he and he's got all of this arm talent. This

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was an opportunity to say they would be a factor.

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against San Diego State, where when things start to break down,

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he really he really forces a lot of passes and

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he col goes as he goes, and and you know,

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they could not move the ball at all in the

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second half of that game. So playing at home with

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a good crowd there on Saturday night, and they they

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quarter and a half. And then also Boston College forty

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eight to seven to a pit team that had been struggling.

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between Boston College in North Carolina for the worst team

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in the ACC. And I really looked at that as

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a game that I thought would be more more competitive,

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and they they didn't compete at all with Pittsburgh in

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that game. And Bill O'Brien, you know, this is not

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what you're looking for if you're BC. You know, halfway

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through his second second year, one and four, they're really

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teams that had, especially particularly Cal, had a chance to

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Speaker 2: But really disappointing. There. My most impressive.

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Speaker 1: Team I do have to go with with Miami. You know,

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you go on the road to Donte Campbell and you

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know that can be a very difficult place to play.

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Speaker 2: Just ask Alabama where where.

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Speaker 1: You know, Florida State beat them by double digits in

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game one, and Miami went into to Tallahassee and you know,

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it's twenty eight to three going into the fourth quarter,

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and you know, Miami just looked better at almost every

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position on the field. And yeah, you know, to their credit,

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Florida State made a little bit of a run to

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kind of make the close the score a little bit

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closer than it really actually was. And you know that

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still kind of begs the question of how Miami and

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Mario Christobal are going to handle teams laid in games.

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This is the second time that you know, they look

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like the better team for large chunks of the game,

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like they did with Notre Dame. You know, up ten

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points in that game in the fourth quarter, and they

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kind of take their foot off the gas and the

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games gets you know, that game of Notre Dame, they

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almost could have lost that game, and then even the

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one against Florida State. You know, you're an on side

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recovery kick and a couple of plays away from the

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unthinkable happening. But when Miami is right, that's the best

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team in college football right now. They have the resume.

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And it's something I might talk about in our open

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mic a little bit about some of these pollsters. I

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don't even if they're watching college football but I mean,

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Miami is the total package right now, offense, defense, quarterback.

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They just need to what they only thing Miami is

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lacking is to put it together for full sixty minutes,

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to keep that foot on the gas the entire time,

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because you know, you don't want to get into a

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game where they're seemingly in control and then letting it

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get away in the fourth quarter again but not not

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taking anything away from that result in Tallahassee where the

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Seminoles were backs against the wall crowd rivalry game and

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Miami controlled that that game for a good forty five fifty,

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forty five and fifty minutes. And also, you know, credit

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to wake Forest after the test loss to Georgia Tech.

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week after the difficult ot loss to Georgia Tech and

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comes with a way with a win that that's a

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team that is extremely well coached and and and could

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be a team to watch, you know, maybe to pull

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an upset or two down down in the stretch.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about Virginia here because very little was

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Speaker 2: Yes, because yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: They they won on the road at Louisville in overtime

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when it could have been pretty easy to you know,

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you're coming off the biggest victory that you've had in

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several years. I mean, really it's you defeated Florida State.

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defeated Florida State several years ago, when when the Barbers

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were there, it just had remnant, you know, it reminded

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me of that, right, and then they go on and

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it could have been really easy to go in and

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lose at Louisville, which is a tough place to play

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on the road, and they got it done, you know,

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and so that was that to me, I think was

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it was pretty impressive that they were able to keep

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their head straight, their head straight and the head straight

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Speaker 4: I expect Miami.

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Speaker 3: Miami's got a lot of talent, right, but I expect

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some I expected some slip ups from Virginia and it

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didn't and it didn't happen. So I was I was

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impressed to say that. I was impressed to see that.

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I'm gonna say it I'm sorry. North Carolina sucks. That's

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a bad football team. It's a horrible football team. And

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Bill Belichick is starting to look like he won all

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those games because he had the best quarterback history of

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the game. He is a I'm sorry. I mean, there's

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okay that I gave Mac Brown a hard time. Oh,

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should we send out the FBI to do a search

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party for northern North Carolina? Because there is no d

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in North Carolina, you know. And so I'm starting to wonder, Well,

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I'll save this for later because I have I have

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a few I have a few words about his situation,

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about Bill belichick situation. Well, we'll we'll get to that

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later here, because I think I'm gonna have a few

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questions about that. Uh, Jeff, what acc football team or

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Speaker 3: Are you looking forward to most in Week seven? I

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mean there's there. You know, it's perhaps not not an

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extremely awesome schedule, but you know there are opportunities for

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perhaps maybe under the radar, a good games that we

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that we may not may may not think about. One

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of them that comes to mind to me, Jeff, is like,

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if North Carolina State would have held up, held us

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into the bargain up and not lost to Virginia Tech

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with an interim coach and Raleigh, that game with you know,

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with Notre Dame might be might be a little more meaningful, right.

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But you know, that's that's certainly one that I have

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my radar on because they're gonna get They're gonna get

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up for it. But you know, the schedule seems a

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little thin next week. I want to hear what you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're right, Matthew. It is a pretty light

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acc schedule for next week. You know, a couple of

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games do kind of stand out to me? Is like,

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I'm intrigued to see how teams respond. You know, Florida State,

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you know, Pittsburgh hosting Pittsburgh. They're in Tallahassee, Pittsburgh coming

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off that big Boston College win, and you know, it's

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a couple of fourth quarter meltdowns from you know, probably

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being undefeated and where where's Florida State at now? You know,

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already zero and two in the league. Uh, you know,

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despite that Alabama win, Mike Norvell has lost and Florida

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State have lost nine of their last ten ACC games,

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you know, so I'm really curious to see where Florida

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State is at and if they were to lose to Pittsburgh,

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which I don't think is completely out of the question.

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You know, that they could send their season spiraling out

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of control and and make that Alabama win, you know,

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more of of a blip than any real progress being made.

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So that's a game to keep an eye on. I

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Corvallis against a bad Oregon State team. You know, if

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if Oregon, if Wake Forest can win that game, then

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a Bowl game really becomes, uh a possibility, which would

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and and Oregon State, you know, is a team that

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Wake Forest can feel like they can you know, that's

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a winnable game. So I'm really curious to see if

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wake Forest can keep the momentum going.

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Speaker 2: You know, Clemson at Boston Boston College, clemson't.

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Speaker 1: Find anything, really can they go on a on a

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on a run here in the final part of the

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second half of the schedule, even though they're they're you know,

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basically out of the playoff chase. They did show a

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little bit of explosiveness against North Carolina, but like you said, Matthew,

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North Carolina is awful. You know, might be the worst

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team in the Power for and there may not be

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a question about it, especially after UCLA beat Penn State,

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which was an zero to four team that was previously

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the worst team in the entire country at the P

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four level. It might be North Carolina now, so you know,

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did Clemson really find something or not? And then you've

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got Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech. Surprisingly, you know, Georgia

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Tech is almost a fifteen point favorite in that game,

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and you know, Virginia Tech may have the kind of

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a rushing attack that could give Georgia Tech a lot

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of problems. If Georgia Tech is a team that somethink

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could could you know run through a large portion of

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their schedule. I mean, you I have to beat a

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team like Virginia Tech at home, a team that you

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know played well beat NC State, struggled against Waite Force,

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but you know has a little momentum since Brent prior.

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They are playing better. But it's a team that you know,

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if you're ranked number thirteen in the country, like Georgia

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Tech is, you should win that game. So I'm you know,

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I look at this week as not you know, any

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gigantic marquee matchups, but it's kind of like a week

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that that you look at several teams and you know,

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does this set you up for the second half of

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the season. I think a lot of teams second half

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of the season is going to be defined by what

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they do this week.

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Speaker 4: I think that's true. I mean, at times, I'll just

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use this as a segue into the next question.

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Speaker 3: Like who do you think they'd be upset in Week

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seven if they're just looking ahead to the game on

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the schedule or sleep walking on the field, just because

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I say this because I think at times, I mean,

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there's no doubt that Georgia Tech's much better than they

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were last year, and they and I think took for

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my money, they probably have the best quarterback in THEACC

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right now. But I'll say that I'll say this, I mean,

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I was, he's certainly up there with Carson back right,

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Speaker 4: Quarterback the Hates Gang is the stuff.

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Speaker 3: But there are times when I think that, oh, we're

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trying to work on these other plays because we need

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them in the future, and then you know that they

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aren't working. We're and we we decided that we need

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to go back to the things that keep working for us.

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Speaker 4: And at times it makes it.

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Speaker 3: I see Georgia Tech like maybe playing up to the

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level of their competition, and you can't you can't do

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that against Virginia You can't do that against Virginia Tech

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because they have shown at least for one game, they've

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shown that they that they could be disciplined.

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Speaker 4: That it against NCCATE.

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Speaker 3: I was actually surprised about that that they had like

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two penalties, no turnovers, and they ran the ball like

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I saw from those early two two thousands, see those

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early two thousands teams in Virginia Tech. And sometimes I

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feel like Georgia Tech plays up to the level of

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its competition at times at.

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Speaker 1: No I mean I totally agree with you, Matthew. You

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know you're right on about it. I mean, Georgia Tech

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is over the last couple of years during the brink,

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he are it might be the one area of concern

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is they definitely, you know, the positive, they've been able

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to play up to their competition almost it doesn't matter

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who it is they've been able to be competitive against

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the best teams in the country. If you can if

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you can play with Georgia you can safely say you

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can play with anyone in college football. But at the

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same time, they they're not a propensity to struggle with

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teams that they're favored. They're favored against. You know, Wake

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Forest really had them on the ropes a couple of

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weeks ago. You know, the week before that they're playing Temple.

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It's twenty one to fourteen, you know, in the in

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the third quarter, so and and like you said, if

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Virginia Tech, you know, they have the capability to run

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the ball, and that's where Georgia Tech really struggles. Uh,

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you know, Drones Jones is a mobile quarterback. If he's

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on his game, he can be accurate at at times.

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And that's the kind of quarterback when the when the

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pocket breaks down that Georgia Tech can struggle with. If

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if they're not on there, if they're not on that game,

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that that could be a much closer contest. And then

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you know, the odds makers are making it also looking

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at Florida State. If they've got a Miami hangover and

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a Virginia you know, hangover. You know, Pittsburgh could go

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in there and into Dog Campbell and throw a scare

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into Florida State. Florida State, you know they are improved,

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but they don't have the overwhelming talent to just show

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up and opponents. And like we said earlier, they've lost

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nine of their last ten A C C games going.

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Speaker 2: Back to last year.

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Speaker 1: So there's there there is no way that if you're

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Florida State, you can go in and say, oh, we're

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back at home, We're playing you know, a middle of

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the pack ACC team, We're gonna be just fine.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I mean they have not They have not proven that yet.

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One win over Alabama does not prove that. Uh So,

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you know, if Florida State has has any remaining hangover

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from the Miami loss, I mean that game could be

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a lot closer than the odds makers are saying too.

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I know we didn't touch I know you mentioned Notre

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Dame in NC State. Man, that one just deserves to

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mention because it's kind of a marquee game. But I

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think NC State, honestly, matthew is gonna get housed.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna get smoked because because because I know that

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Notre Dame watched that, Jeff, and I know that Notre

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Dame's gonna run the ball in the submission on NC State.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna just run it.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna run and run and run until until n

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C State decites they have a running clock. That's terrible

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me to say, I'm sorry, all right, So how about

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I'll throw one out there. Boy, does Stanford have a

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chance to beat SMU? Jeff, I'm actually being serious about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anything is possible, but I really don't think so.

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You know, if Stanford were to pull off that upset,

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I mean, they're really gonna have to control the clock

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with their running game. I think SMU is a team

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that really struggles in the secondary. And if if Stanford

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had more of a passing attack, I would feel like, Hey,

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this is this is possible.

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Speaker 2: This is an upset that could happen.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think Stanford is equipped to take advantage

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of what SMU is not good at.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Think I think the offensive SMUs is still you know,

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really stout, really good, and I don't I don't see

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Stanford really being able to slow them down.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough, let's get to the national scene. Here, Jeff,

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which national game are you looking forward to most in

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week seven? And like I said, you know, we've got

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through this before. You can pick a Power four, you

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can pick a G five. Hell, you can even have

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an FCS matchup here. And I got pretty close. I

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remember last week, I said, take a look at South

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Dakota State and Young Sound State.

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Speaker 4: South Dakota State only won.

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Speaker 3: That game by five last week, right, you know, and

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that's your number six team in the country. So you know,

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regarding you know, next week on the national scene, what

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do you look?

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Speaker 4: What are you looking at?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Ohio State, Illinois, Alabama, and Missouri is like

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a few good matchups there.

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Speaker 4: But are there are others that you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, You've got Indiana going to to Oregon, where game

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day is going to be headed. I think that's a

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very intriguing game because you know, Oregon got a lot

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of credit, they earned a lot of credibility for winning

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a Happy Valley in Penn State right after it happened,

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and then Penn State, you know, loses to UCLA, and

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so I think you can go and very much question

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Oregon again, like wait a minute, you know that went

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over Penn State is really severely diminished, you know, just

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how good are they? And then Indiana, you know, has

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been notorious for you know, honestly that we know it.

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They're not they haven't played any one, they don't usually

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play anyone. But when they did have the opportunity to

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play Illinois a couple of weeks ago, I mean, I mean,

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they look like you know, Tom Brady Aaron New England

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Patriots out there. I think it was something like sixty

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six to ten out there. So I mean, I feel

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like the winner of that game joins Miami as almost

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about to be locked into the playoffs. You know, it

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would take something catastrophic for either one of those teams

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not to make it.

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Speaker 2: It's a top ten matchup.

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Speaker 1: I think it will be difficult for Indiana to go

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into Outson Stadium and knock off Oregon. But I am

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pretty interested in that game. Ohio State and Illinois. You know,

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can anyone knock off Ohio State? You know in the

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Big Ten? You know, they are, from my vantage point,

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the best team I've seen this year. Defensively, Ohio State's

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defense is at absolutely legit and if they start finding

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their offense, and we saw a little bit of it,

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against Minnesota. I mean, I think without question, right now

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it's Ohio State and Miami as your top two teams,

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and there's a big opportunity for Illinois to put that

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loss against Indiana behind them. They knocked off USC recently.

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You follow that up with a win over Ohio State,

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and you've really put that loss behind you. You might

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even be able to get in the playoff chase. And then,

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of course, like you said, Matthew, Alabama playing at Missouri.

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You know, Missouri always seems to be fairly highly ranked,

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you know, in the SEC, but they don't have a

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ton of like wins over the Georgia's and Alabamas, and

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this is a massive opportunity for them to try to

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validate them in their playoff run. And on the other

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side of the token, you know, Alabama's already beat one

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at Georgia, they beat Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: Who's who's solid.

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Speaker 1: If they go to Missouri and win that game, I mean,

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I would say they pretty effectively have put that that

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Florida State loss.

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Speaker 2: In the rear view.

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Speaker 1: In the rearview, Mirra, and you'd have to say, like, hey,

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there's no reason to think Alabama's not one of the

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top six or seven teams in the country. You know,

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one one bad loss doesn't mean your season's over. And

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you know you knock off Missouri, I would I would

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say that that loss is history. We'll see some interesting games.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, b YU wasn't really expected to be,

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you know, a ferocious monster this year and they're five

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and oh right now, Jeff, they're playing some pretty good

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football right now that in a couple of weeks they're

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setting themselves up with a good matchup with with Iowa States,

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you know, so that I you know, I'm low key

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I'm kind of looking at that game too here. So

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but it's open microphone time, Jeff. And you know what

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I'm gonna go first year. I'm gonna go first. Uh, Jeff,

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did you know that Colorado is two and four right now,

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two and four and.

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Speaker 4: They're playing Iowa State.

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Speaker 3: At home and they've got a three thirty time slot

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on ESPN.

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Speaker 4: How is this even happening? Jeff? I mean I'm talking you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, just because Dion is coach there doesn't mean

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you should be getting you should be stealing national spots

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from higher quality teams. And I and I'm you know,

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I'm looking at the schedule here right now. I'm sorry,

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I'm rant letting it go here right because they're not

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gonna beat Utah. They're probably not gonna beat Arizona. They'll

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probably beat Arizona. Okay, I'll give them mat that'll give

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them like three wins. They're probably not gonna beat the

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Sun Devils, so there'll be a three and they're honestly,

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they may it's a coin flip on whether they're gonna

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be the Kansas State wild Bats.

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Speaker 4: So Kansas State Wildcats. That'll be their last game of

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the season.

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Speaker 3: So if they were to win that, they'd have four games,

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four or four games, and they'll probably be on national

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TV every time and every time, you know, and the

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story then the chorus, right Jeff will be.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, is Dion gonna save his job? You

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know with four games? You know this stuff? Oh, ESPN

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would like to know.

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Speaker 3: No, no, Colorado sucks and they're not, you know, and

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people will say, oh, Matthew, you're just a terrible person.

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This is only his second year. No he's not he's

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not winning, and he shouldn't be on TV at this stage.

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And I and it sounds like I'm probably ranted, ranting

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him out. Yes, Colorado's out exactly, an he's the easy

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place to win. It doesn't have a historical factor forget

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you know, for winning and you know, but he's got

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a bunch of resources down. They're filling the state, filling

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the stands, and they just suck. And they're taking time

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slots from I think from teams that are playing that

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are playing better games that three turns that you know three.

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Speaker 4: Giving a three.

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Speaker 3: Thirty time slot to another you know, get duke for example,

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giving them a three thirty time splot on ESPN would

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be a better dealt and probably better than giving something

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to a team's two and four. But I would be

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curious curious about your thoughts on that because I'm kind

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of unloading here. I d.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Deon draws eyeballs is the only thing I

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can say. I mean, I will.

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Speaker 1: I do think Carol Colorado is is a little bit

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better than their record. I mean, they were tied with

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Georgia Tech in the fourth quarter, they had the ball

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against BYU with a chance to tire or take the

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lead in that game before turnover. They led TCU in

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the fourth quarter on the road before they gave up

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a couple of eight touchdowns. So I don't think Colorado

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is an awful off football team, but I don't I

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don't think they should be getting like the prime television

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spots this point either.

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Speaker 2: You gotta earn those spots.

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Speaker 5: You should be two and four and in a three

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thirty PM time slot. Now, maybe ESPN's trying to drive

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their narrative where you're talking about, Oh, it is Dion

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on the hot seat because he's you know what, Iowa

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State's gonna go in there and crash him.

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Speaker 3: They're just gonna beat the hell out of Colorado. I'm

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gonna then calling it now, they're gonna torch the spread, Jeff,

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And I don't.

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Speaker 4: Think that Colorado.

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Speaker 3: I'll say it today, okay, I don't think that Colorado

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will have four wins, that that's the high, that's their ceiling.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: And if I had to say it today, they'll have

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for they'll end up with three and then they'll be

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televising the rest of the Game's Jeff talking about whether

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Dion Sanders is going into year number three and when

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I think that there are more deserving teams to go

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in the time slot, and I'm go he keeps saying this.

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Speaker 4: I keep banging my head on this. Duke is playing.

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Speaker 3: Good football right now and deserves the spot like that,

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and they're probably with Duke is probably going to get

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eight or nine wins. Yeah, and then and meanwhile, we've

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got Colorado out here taking these time slots up because

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ESPN is like, you know, as you said, sure it

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takes eyeballs, and sure it's probably getting advertising dollars. But

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for what but two would two two to three to

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four win team That seems like that seems that seems

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like a false choice to me.

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Speaker 4: But but I want to let it go.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean my rant is is the coach's pole,

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you know. And what's frustrating when people might say, oh,

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the real poll comes out later with the CFP pole,

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and these poles now they don't matter. Oh they do

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matter because they set the narrative when the when those

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CFP poles come out, I mean, I guarantee you, and

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it's been this way every time when the CFP pole

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comes out, that it's not that different than the coaches

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poll or AP pole. And what the coaches have done

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is just it's unforgivable. You know, Texas and Penn State

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have zero zero combined power for wins right now, not one.

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Speaker 2: Not two zero at the midpoint of the season. Texas.

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Speaker 1: You know, they went on the road and lost at

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a one to three Florida team, and they're still nineteenth

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in the country and the coaches pole there is. That

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means that there are people that probably had them fifteen

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sixteen right now Texas. There, Texas should not be ranked nineteen.

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They should not be in the top twenty five.

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Speaker 4: It's even more.

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Speaker 1: Even worse, Penn State still in the top twenty five.

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I don't think people really comprehend how bad UCLA was

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coming into this game. I think they showed a statistic

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that there have been like four or five times in

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the history of college football that a team zero to

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four or worse knocked off a top ten team, and

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UCLA did it forty two to thirty seven against Penn State.

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Let me, this is UCLA prior to that game, forty

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three ten losers to Utah. All right, Utah is really good.

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Unlv is actually pretty good too. They lost that game

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thirty twenty three. They lost thirty five to ten to

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New Mexico. They lost seventeen to fourteen to a bad

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Northwestern team. UCLA is off there a bad team. Yes,

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how in the world. Yeah, back, they're like Virginia Tech. Right,

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they had me into a dullach. These are the wins

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Penn State had. They beat Nevada, f IU and Villanova,

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and they have a two overtime loss to Organ. No

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shame in that, but a loss is a loss. And

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they kept him in the top ten after that game.

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That was the first time I looked at it and said,

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wait a minute, you're you're giving Penn State a little

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bit too much credit by leaving him in the top ten.

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Speaker 2: I mean they should have you know, at that point,

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I wouldn't say you've dropped.

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Speaker 1: Out of the poll for losing an organ, but I

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think they should have fell fell out of the top ten.

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Speaker 2: But then you lose you back that up with a

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loss to U C.

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Speaker 4: L A.

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Speaker 1: I could not believe that, and it's it's I would

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almost call it disgraceful.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, Jeff, You've read.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the tweets, you've read by blog posts,

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You've seen a lot of tweets from Virginia Tech fans.

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Were you a little surprised to see that with Madcock

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is going to have a role in hiring a third

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football coach, because I am, I am, yeah, I am.

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To be honest, I'm surprised, you know. I mean, it's

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it's now that they don't. They've got to have a

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good committee. They have a great committee, Jeff, I'm sure

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you saw the first. Chris arians is up there right.

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I mean, they have a he's an example of somebody

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who's on there, Eddie Royal. They have a really good committee.

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But it seems like they're turning it over the top

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two choices too, to the ad who will select and

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then recommend it to the to uh the president for hire.

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But I'm not I didn't think that they would have

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a role in this, you know. And it's just kind

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of floored by all this. I was a bit floored

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by all this, and I didn't think that this would

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be happened. I didn't think this would be happening today.

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Speaker 4: You know. So we'll have.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to see how this all goes here. But

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that's it's it's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting to be

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to say to say it, to say the least. But

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on that note, man, what a great what a great

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podcast we had tonight. So Jeff, you have a great

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evening and we'll catch up next week. We've got a

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great guest coming here next week. Let me just tell

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everybody who we have coming here next week.

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Speaker 4: I got to make.

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Speaker 3: Sure I confirm, right, of course, but we have a

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we have a great guest and is the retort guest

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of this podcast. It's Carlos Banta, who used to write

626
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,800
a Southern fake skin about the acc He is our

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00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Miami expert here on this block, and you know he

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hit historically, I think he probably agreed Jeff.

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Speaker 4: He's been a little yeah, like last year he said, yeah,

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I'll go with eight and four. I'll go with eight

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and four. And this year he was I mean, you're

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think conservative.

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Speaker 3: On his picks for Miami, but I don't think anybody

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thought that he'd have. You know, nobody really thought Miami

635
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would have the Heisman Trophy winner last year ready each quarterback,

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and they're probably on track to having a Heisman Canada

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again this year at Miami.

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Speaker 4: And he's been very conservative about his picks.

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Speaker 3: But he's he's coming on the pipe, but he also

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gives it real to us right about the games.

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Speaker 4: He's coming out here next week.

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Speaker 3: And he'll be our guest for acc ACC Football next week.

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So Jeff, have a great week friend, and we will

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talk to you next week

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Speaker 2: All right, See you next time, Matthew,