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Speaker 4: Thank you for the great introduction.
Speaker 3: Jeff. I guess we're at episode if I'm not mistaken, Jeff,
I think tonight is. If I'm not mistaken, correct me
if I'm wrong. I think we're at episode five sixty
five tonight, which is quite a milestone. I mean, sometime
in twenty twenty six we're going to be hitting six
hundred episode, So that's pretty good for a site like this.
We get to get we get get some pretty.
Speaker 4: Pretty good traffic.
Speaker 3: I think we're probably one of the most well known
independent ACC blogs and podcasts and podcasts out there. That's
good news for us. Let me just run through the
through the ACC football scores. If you were on vacation,
or if you're out of the country or whatever, or
if you had a fall wedding, you didn't have a
chance to catch up on football.
Speaker 2: Boston.
Speaker 3: Boston College absolutely got smashed by Pittsburgh forty eight to seven.
Clemson went into North Carolina and burned them thirty eight
to ten. Wake Forrest took advantage of a bunch of
Virginia Tech mistakes and one thirty to twenty three in Blacksburg.
The Wolfpack rebounded to their loss at Virginia to the
Virginia Tech and they defeated Campbell fifty six to ten.
And perhaps the game of the week and the ACC
the number nineteen. Virginia Cavaliers beat Louisville at overtime thirty
to twenty seven. SMU defeated Syracuse thirty one to eighteen.
Miami defeated Florida State twenty eight to twenty two. I
guess we can put that up there for a Game
of the week.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 3: We'll put that up. We can say two of them
they're right. And finally a Duke, who is playing some
extremely good football right now, defeated Cal forty five to
twenty one. This game, of course, is on the West Coast,
and I feel we can at this point, Jeff, we
can probably call it ACC after Dark, which I think
I kind of enjoy that. I'm gonna start, I'm going
to start saying that ACC after Dark weecause they're giving
Cal a lot of these these ten thirty pm time slots,
and I feel like I feel like at this.
Speaker 4: Point that is the accs we should own that.
Speaker 3: I feel like SMU could have you know, a later
a later game. They're in the Central time zone, but
I still feel like that they could have a later
game as well.
Speaker 4: So I mean, it was, you know, it was.
Speaker 3: A pretty pretty hardcore week here. But who do you
think was the most disappointing football team in the ACC
in Week six? And on the flip side, Jeff, who
was the most impressive team for you?
Speaker 1: I'd put on Cal as one of my most disappointing teams.
Like you said, Matthew Duke is playing very well, you know, Mensa,
the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Is really on fire.
Speaker 1: But this was an opportunity for Cal to kind of say, hey,
we're going to be a factor in the ACC race
this year. I mean, then they opened up the game,
you know, really really hot. I think they were up
twenty one seven at one point, and then the offense
just shut down under and under duke. And you know
when when this happened a couple of weeks ago for
Cal against San Diego State where they just got you know,
hammered thirty four zero. But you'd also seen some some
quality performances at a out of Cal.
Speaker 2: You know, they'd beaten Minnesota, they'd went on the road.
Speaker 1: But he's BC and and you looked at the quarterback, Jks.
That's that's what we're gonna call him, you know, and
he and he's got all of this arm talent. This
was an opportunity to say they would be a factor.
And he went right back to the way he played
against San Diego State, where when things start to break down,
he really he really forces a lot of passes and
he col goes as he goes, and and you know,
they could not move the ball at all in the
second half of that game. So playing at home with
a good crowd there on Saturday night, and they they
were just a no show, especially after that first first
quarter and a half. And then also Boston College forty
eight to seven to a pit team that had been struggling.
You know, right now it's a neck and neck race
between Boston College in North Carolina for the worst team
in the ACC. And I really looked at that as
a game that I thought would be more more competitive,
and they they didn't compete at all with Pittsburgh in
that game. And Bill O'Brien, you know, this is not
what you're looking for if you're BC. You know, halfway
through his second second year, one and four, they're really
they're really struggling at So you know, those those are
my two most disappointing teams, b C and CAL, two
teams that had, especially particularly Cal, had a chance to
get into the ACC race.
Speaker 2: But really disappointing. There. My most impressive.
Speaker 1: Team I do have to go with with Miami. You know,
you go on the road to Donte Campbell and you
know that can be a very difficult place to play.
Speaker 2: Just ask Alabama where where.
Speaker 1: You know, Florida State beat them by double digits in
game one, and Miami went into to Tallahassee and you know,
it's twenty eight to three going into the fourth quarter,
and you know, Miami just looked better at almost every
position on the field. And yeah, you know, to their credit,
Florida State made a little bit of a run to
kind of make the close the score a little bit
closer than it really actually was. And you know that
still kind of begs the question of how Miami and
Mario Christobal are going to handle teams laid in games.
This is the second time that you know, they look
like the better team for large chunks of the game,
like they did with Notre Dame. You know, up ten
points in that game in the fourth quarter, and they
kind of take their foot off the gas and the
games gets you know, that game of Notre Dame, they
almost could have lost that game, and then even the
one against Florida State. You know, you're an on side
recovery kick and a couple of plays away from the
unthinkable happening. But when Miami is right, that's the best
team in college football right now. They have the resume.
And it's something I might talk about in our open
mic a little bit about some of these pollsters. I
don't even if they're watching college football but I mean,
Miami is the total package right now, offense, defense, quarterback.
They just need to what they only thing Miami is
lacking is to put it together for full sixty minutes,
to keep that foot on the gas the entire time,
because you know, you don't want to get into a
game where they're seemingly in control and then letting it
get away in the fourth quarter again but not not
taking anything away from that result in Tallahassee where the
Seminoles were backs against the wall crowd rivalry game and
Miami controlled that that game for a good forty five fifty,
forty five and fifty minutes. And also, you know, credit
to wake Forest after the test loss to Georgia Tech.
Like you said, Matthew, Virginia Tech made a lot of mistakes.
But wake Forest goes on the road, you know, a
week after the difficult ot loss to Georgia Tech and
comes with a way with a win that that's a
team that is extremely well coached and and and could
be a team to watch, you know, maybe to pull
an upset or two down down in the stretch.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about Virginia here because very little was
said about Virginia here.
Speaker 2: Yes, because yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: They they won on the road at Louisville in overtime
when it could have been pretty easy to you know,
you're coming off the biggest victory that you've had in
several years. I mean, really it's you defeated Florida State.
And that really was when they beat it, when they
defeated Florida State several years ago, when when the Barbers
were there, it just had remnant, you know, it reminded
me of that, right, and then they go on and
it could have been really easy to go in and
lose at Louisville, which is a tough place to play
on the road, and they got it done, you know,
and so that was that to me, I think was
it was pretty impressive that they were able to keep
their head straight, their head straight and the head straight
and everything, like.
Speaker 4: I expect Miami.
Speaker 3: Miami's got a lot of talent, right, but I expect
some I expected some slip ups from Virginia and it
didn't and it didn't happen. So I was I was
impressed to say that. I was impressed to see that.
That's the probably the first thing. And then like, look,
I'm gonna say it I'm sorry. North Carolina sucks. That's
a bad football team. It's a horrible football team. And
Bill Belichick is starting to look like he won all
those games because he had the best quarterback history of
the game. He is a I'm sorry. I mean, there's
no I'll say it. I'll say it the same way,
okay that I gave Mac Brown a hard time. Oh,
should we send out the FBI to do a search
party for northern North Carolina? Because there is no d
in North Carolina, you know. And so I'm starting to wonder, Well,
I'll save this for later because I have I have
a few I have a few words about his situation,
about Bill belichick situation. Well, we'll we'll get to that
later here, because I think I'm gonna have a few
questions about that. Uh, Jeff, what acc football team or
football game?
Speaker 4: I should say?
Speaker 3: Are you looking forward to most in Week seven? I
mean there's there. You know, it's perhaps not not an
extremely awesome schedule, but you know there are opportunities for
you know, for games that may be better that you know,
perhaps maybe under the radar, a good games that we
that we may not may may not think about. One
of them that comes to mind to me, Jeff, is like,
if North Carolina State would have held up, held us
into the bargain up and not lost to Virginia Tech
with an interim coach and Raleigh, that game with you know,
with Notre Dame might be might be a little more meaningful, right.
But you know, that's that's certainly one that I have
my radar on because they're gonna get They're gonna get
up for it. But you know, the schedule seems a
little thin next week. I want to hear what you
have to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're right, Matthew. It is a pretty light
acc schedule for next week. You know, a couple of
games do kind of stand out to me? Is like,
I'm intrigued to see how teams respond. You know, Florida State,
you know, Pittsburgh hosting Pittsburgh. They're in Tallahassee, Pittsburgh coming
off that big Boston College win, and you know, it's
a couple of fourth quarter meltdowns from you know, probably
being undefeated and where where's Florida State at now? You know,
already zero and two in the league. Uh, you know,
despite that Alabama win, Mike Norvell has lost and Florida
State have lost nine of their last ten ACC games,
you know, so I'm really curious to see where Florida
State is at and if they were to lose to Pittsburgh,
which I don't think is completely out of the question.
You know, that they could send their season spiraling out
of control and and make that Alabama win, you know,
more of of a blip than any real progress being made.
So that's a game to keep an eye on. I
want to see what wake Forest can do out in
Corvallis against a bad Oregon State team. You know, if
if Oregon, if Wake Forest can win that game, then
a Bowl game really becomes, uh a possibility, which would
be great in Jake Dickard's first year at wake Forest
and and Oregon State, you know, is a team that
Wake Forest can feel like they can you know, that's
a winnable game. So I'm really curious to see if
wake Forest can keep the momentum going.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Clemson at Boston Boston College, clemson't.
Speaker 1: Find anything, really can they go on a on a
on a run here in the final part of the
second half of the schedule, even though they're they're you know,
basically out of the playoff chase. They did show a
little bit of explosiveness against North Carolina, but like you said, Matthew,
North Carolina is awful. You know, might be the worst
team in the Power for and there may not be
a question about it, especially after UCLA beat Penn State,
which was an zero to four team that was previously
the worst team in the entire country at the P
four level. It might be North Carolina now, so you know,
did Clemson really find something or not? And then you've
got Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech. Surprisingly, you know, Georgia
Tech is almost a fifteen point favorite in that game,
and you know, Virginia Tech may have the kind of
a rushing attack that could give Georgia Tech a lot
of problems. If Georgia Tech is a team that somethink
could could you know run through a large portion of
their schedule. I mean, you I have to beat a
team like Virginia Tech at home, a team that you
know played well beat NC State, struggled against Waite Force,
but you know has a little momentum since Brent prior.
They are playing better. But it's a team that you know,
if you're ranked number thirteen in the country, like Georgia
Tech is, you should win that game. So I'm you know,
I look at this week as not you know, any
gigantic marquee matchups, but it's kind of like a week
that that you look at several teams and you know,
does this set you up for the second half of
the season. I think a lot of teams second half
of the season is going to be defined by what
they do this week.
Speaker 4: I think that's true. I mean, at times, I'll just
use this as a segue into the next question.
Speaker 3: Like who do you think they'd be upset in Week
seven if they're just looking ahead to the game on
the schedule or sleep walking on the field, just because
I say this because I think at times, I mean,
there's no doubt that Georgia Tech's much better than they
were last year, and they and I think took for
my money, they probably have the best quarterback in THEACC
right now. But I'll say that I'll say this, I mean,
I was, he's certainly up there with Carson back right,
I mean, the.
Speaker 4: Quarterback the Hates Gang is the stuff.
Speaker 3: But there are times when I think that, oh, we're
trying to work on these other plays because we need
them in the future, and then you know that they
aren't working. We're and we we decided that we need
to go back to the things that keep working for us.
Speaker 4: And at times it makes it.
Speaker 3: I see Georgia Tech like maybe playing up to the
level of their competition, and you can't you can't do
that against Virginia You can't do that against Virginia Tech
because they have shown at least for one game, they've
shown that they that they could be disciplined.
Speaker 4: That it against NCCATE.
Speaker 3: I was actually surprised about that that they had like
two penalties, no turnovers, and they ran the ball like
I saw from those early two two thousands, see those
early two thousands teams in Virginia Tech. And sometimes I
feel like Georgia Tech plays up to the level of
its competition at times at.
Speaker 1: No I mean I totally agree with you, Matthew. You
know you're right on about it. I mean, Georgia Tech
is over the last couple of years during the brink,
he are it might be the one area of concern
is they definitely, you know, the positive, they've been able
to play up to their competition almost it doesn't matter
who it is they've been able to be competitive against
the best teams in the country. If you can if
you can play with Georgia you can safely say you
can play with anyone in college football. But at the
same time, they they're not a propensity to struggle with
teams that they're favored. They're favored against. You know, Wake
Forest really had them on the ropes a couple of
weeks ago. You know, the week before that they're playing Temple.
It's twenty one to fourteen, you know, in the in
the third quarter, so and and like you said, if
Virginia Tech, you know, they have the capability to run
the ball, and that's where Georgia Tech really struggles. Uh,
you know, Drones Jones is a mobile quarterback. If he's
on his game, he can be accurate at at times.
And that's the kind of quarterback when the when the
pocket breaks down that Georgia Tech can struggle with. If
if they're not on there, if they're not on that game,
that that could be a much closer contest. And then
you know, the odds makers are making it also looking
at Florida State. If they've got a Miami hangover and
a Virginia you know, hangover. You know, Pittsburgh could go
in there and into Dog Campbell and throw a scare
into Florida State. Florida State, you know they are improved,
but they don't have the overwhelming talent to just show
up and opponents. And like we said earlier, they've lost
nine of their last ten A C C games going.
Speaker 2: Back to last year.
Speaker 1: So there's there there is no way that if you're
Florida State, you can go in and say, oh, we're
back at home, We're playing you know, a middle of
the pack ACC team, We're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I mean they have not They have not proven that yet.
One win over Alabama does not prove that. Uh So,
you know, if Florida State has has any remaining hangover
from the Miami loss, I mean that game could be
a lot closer than the odds makers are saying too.
I know we didn't touch I know you mentioned Notre
Dame in NC State. Man, that one just deserves to
mention because it's kind of a marquee game. But I
think NC State, honestly, matthew is gonna get housed.
Speaker 3: They're gonna get smoked because because because I know that
Notre Dame watched that, Jeff, and I know that Notre
Dame's gonna run the ball in the submission on NC State.
Speaker 4: They're gonna just run it.
Speaker 3: They're gonna run and run and run until until n
C State decites they have a running clock. That's terrible
me to say, I'm sorry, all right, So how about
I'll throw one out there. Boy, does Stanford have a
chance to beat SMU? Jeff, I'm actually being serious about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, anything is possible, but I really don't think so.
You know, if Stanford were to pull off that upset,
I mean, they're really gonna have to control the clock
with their running game. I think SMU is a team
that really struggles in the secondary. And if if Stanford
had more of a passing attack, I would feel like, Hey,
this is this is possible.
Speaker 2: This is an upset that could happen.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Stanford is equipped to take advantage
of what SMU is not good at.
Speaker 2: And you know, I.
Speaker 1: Think I think the offensive SMUs is still you know,
really stout, really good, and I don't I don't see
Stanford really being able to slow them down.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough, let's get to the national scene. Here, Jeff,
which national game are you looking forward to most in
week seven? And like I said, you know, we've got
through this before. You can pick a Power four, you
can pick a G five. Hell, you can even have
an FCS matchup here. And I got pretty close. I
remember last week, I said, take a look at South
Dakota State and Young Sound State.
Speaker 4: South Dakota State only won.
Speaker 3: That game by five last week, right, you know, and
that's your number six team in the country. So you know,
regarding you know, next week on the national scene, what
do you look?
Speaker 4: What are you looking at?
Speaker 3: I mean, Ohio State, Illinois, Alabama, and Missouri is like
a few good matchups there.
Speaker 4: But are there are others that you're looking at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, You've got Indiana going to to Oregon, where game
day is going to be headed. I think that's a
very intriguing game because you know, Oregon got a lot
of credit, they earned a lot of credibility for winning
a Happy Valley in Penn State right after it happened,
and then Penn State, you know, loses to UCLA, and
so I think you can go and very much question
Oregon again, like wait a minute, you know that went
over Penn State is really severely diminished, you know, just
how good are they? And then Indiana, you know, has
been notorious for you know, honestly that we know it.
They're not they haven't played any one, they don't usually
play anyone. But when they did have the opportunity to
play Illinois a couple of weeks ago, I mean, I mean,
they look like you know, Tom Brady Aaron New England
Patriots out there. I think it was something like sixty
six to ten out there. So I mean, I feel
like the winner of that game joins Miami as almost
about to be locked into the playoffs. You know, it
would take something catastrophic for either one of those teams
not to make it.
Speaker 2: It's a top ten matchup.
Speaker 1: I think it will be difficult for Indiana to go
into Outson Stadium and knock off Oregon. But I am
pretty interested in that game. Ohio State and Illinois. You know,
can anyone knock off Ohio State? You know in the
Big Ten? You know, they are, from my vantage point,
the best team I've seen this year. Defensively, Ohio State's
defense is at absolutely legit and if they start finding
their offense, and we saw a little bit of it,
against Minnesota. I mean, I think without question, right now
it's Ohio State and Miami as your top two teams,
and there's a big opportunity for Illinois to put that
loss against Indiana behind them. They knocked off USC recently.
You follow that up with a win over Ohio State,
and you've really put that loss behind you. You might
even be able to get in the playoff chase. And then,
of course, like you said, Matthew, Alabama playing at Missouri.
You know, Missouri always seems to be fairly highly ranked,
you know, in the SEC, but they don't have a
ton of like wins over the Georgia's and Alabamas, and
this is a massive opportunity for them to try to
validate them in their playoff run. And on the other
side of the token, you know, Alabama's already beat one
at Georgia, they beat Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2: Who's who's solid.
Speaker 1: If they go to Missouri and win that game, I mean,
I would say they pretty effectively have put that that
Florida State loss.
Speaker 2: In the rear view.
Speaker 1: In the rearview, Mirra, and you'd have to say, like, hey,
there's no reason to think Alabama's not one of the
top six or seven teams in the country. You know,
one one bad loss doesn't mean your season's over. And
you know you knock off Missouri, I would I would
say that that loss is history. We'll see some interesting games.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, b YU wasn't really expected to be,
you know, a ferocious monster this year and they're five
and oh right now, Jeff, they're playing some pretty good
football right now that in a couple of weeks they're
setting themselves up with a good matchup with with Iowa States,
you know, so that I you know, I'm low key
I'm kind of looking at that game too here. So
but it's open microphone time, Jeff. And you know what
I'm gonna go first year. I'm gonna go first. Uh, Jeff,
did you know that Colorado is two and four right now,
two and four and.
Speaker 4: They're playing Iowa State.
Speaker 3: At home and they've got a three thirty time slot
on ESPN.
Speaker 4: How is this even happening? Jeff? I mean I'm talking you.
Speaker 3: Know what, just because Dion is coach there doesn't mean
you should be getting you should be stealing national spots
from higher quality teams. And I and I'm you know,
I'm looking at the schedule here right now. I'm sorry,
I'm rant letting it go here right because they're not
gonna beat Utah. They're probably not gonna beat Arizona. They'll
probably beat Arizona. Okay, I'll give them mat that'll give
them like three wins. They're probably not gonna beat the
Sun Devils, so there'll be a three and they're honestly,
they may it's a coin flip on whether they're gonna
be the Kansas State wild Bats.
Speaker 4: So Kansas State Wildcats. That'll be their last game of
the season.
Speaker 3: So if they were to win that, they'd have four games,
four or four games, and they'll probably be on national
TV every time and every time, you know, and the
story then the chorus, right Jeff will be.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, is Dion gonna save his job? You
know with four games? You know this stuff? Oh, ESPN
would like to know.
Speaker 3: No, no, Colorado sucks and they're not, you know, and
people will say, oh, Matthew, you're just a terrible person.
This is only his second year. No he's not he's
not winning, and he shouldn't be on TV at this stage.
And I and it sounds like I'm probably ranted, ranting
him out. Yes, Colorado's out exactly, an he's the easy
place to win. It doesn't have a historical factor forget
you know, for winning and you know, but he's got
a bunch of resources down. They're filling the state, filling
the stands, and they just suck. And they're taking time
slots from I think from teams that are playing that
are playing better games that three turns that you know three.
Speaker 4: Giving a three.
Speaker 3: Thirty time slot to another you know, get duke for example,
giving them a three thirty time splot on ESPN would
be a better dealt and probably better than giving something
to a team's two and four. But I would be
curious curious about your thoughts on that because I'm kind
of unloading here. I d.
Speaker 2: I mean, Deon draws eyeballs is the only thing I
can say. I mean, I will.
Speaker 1: I do think Carol Colorado is is a little bit
better than their record. I mean, they were tied with
Georgia Tech in the fourth quarter, they had the ball
against BYU with a chance to tire or take the
lead in that game before turnover. They led TCU in
the fourth quarter on the road before they gave up
a couple of eight touchdowns. So I don't think Colorado
is an awful off football team, but I don't I
don't think they should be getting like the prime television
spots this point either.
Speaker 2: You gotta earn those spots.
Speaker 5: You should be two and four and in a three
thirty PM time slot. Now, maybe ESPN's trying to drive
their narrative where you're talking about, Oh, it is Dion
on the hot seat because he's you know what, Iowa
State's gonna go in there and crash him.
Speaker 3: They're just gonna beat the hell out of Colorado. I'm
gonna then calling it now, they're gonna torch the spread, Jeff,
And I don't.
Speaker 4: Think that Colorado.
Speaker 3: I'll say it today, okay, I don't think that Colorado
will have four wins, that that's the high, that's their ceiling.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: And if I had to say it today, they'll have
for they'll end up with three and then they'll be
televising the rest of the Game's Jeff talking about whether
Dion Sanders is going into year number three and when
I think that there are more deserving teams to go
in the time slot, and I'm go he keeps saying this.
Speaker 4: I keep banging my head on this. Duke is playing.
Speaker 3: Good football right now and deserves the spot like that,
and they're probably with Duke is probably going to get
eight or nine wins. Yeah, and then and meanwhile, we've
got Colorado out here taking these time slots up because
ESPN is like, you know, as you said, sure it
takes eyeballs, and sure it's probably getting advertising dollars. But
for what but two would two two to three to
four win team That seems like that seems that seems
like a false choice to me.
Speaker 4: But but I want to let it go.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean my rant is is the coach's pole,
you know. And what's frustrating when people might say, oh,
the real poll comes out later with the CFP pole,
and these poles now they don't matter. Oh they do
matter because they set the narrative when the when those
CFP poles come out, I mean, I guarantee you, and
it's been this way every time when the CFP pole
comes out, that it's not that different than the coaches
poll or AP pole. And what the coaches have done
is just it's unforgivable. You know, Texas and Penn State
have zero zero combined power for wins right now, not one.
Speaker 2: Not two zero at the midpoint of the season. Texas.
Speaker 1: You know, they went on the road and lost at
a one to three Florida team, and they're still nineteenth
in the country and the coaches pole there is. That
means that there are people that probably had them fifteen
sixteen right now Texas. There, Texas should not be ranked nineteen.
They should not be in the top twenty five.
Speaker 4: It's even more.
Speaker 1: Even worse, Penn State still in the top twenty five.
I don't think people really comprehend how bad UCLA was
coming into this game. I think they showed a statistic
that there have been like four or five times in
the history of college football that a team zero to
four or worse knocked off a top ten team, and
UCLA did it forty two to thirty seven against Penn State.
Let me, this is UCLA prior to that game, forty
three ten losers to Utah. All right, Utah is really good.
Unlv is actually pretty good too. They lost that game
thirty twenty three. They lost thirty five to ten to
New Mexico. They lost seventeen to fourteen to a bad
Northwestern team. UCLA is off there a bad team. Yes,
how in the world. Yeah, back, they're like Virginia Tech. Right,
they had me into a dullach. These are the wins
Penn State had. They beat Nevada, f IU and Villanova,
and they have a two overtime loss to Organ. No
shame in that, but a loss is a loss. And
they kept him in the top ten after that game.
That was the first time I looked at it and said,
wait a minute, you're you're giving Penn State a little
bit too much credit by leaving him in the top ten.
Speaker 2: I mean they should have you know, at that point,
I wouldn't say you've dropped.
Speaker 1: Out of the poll for losing an organ, but I
think they should have fell fell out of the top ten.
Speaker 2: But then you lose you back that up with a
loss to U C.
Speaker 4: L A.
Speaker 1: I could not believe that, and it's it's I would
almost call it disgraceful.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, Jeff, You've read.
Speaker 3: A lot of the tweets, you've read by blog posts,
You've seen a lot of tweets from Virginia Tech fans.
Were you a little surprised to see that with Madcock
is going to have a role in hiring a third
football coach, because I am, I am, yeah, I am.
To be honest, I'm surprised, you know. I mean, it's
it's now that they don't. They've got to have a
good committee. They have a great committee, Jeff, I'm sure
you saw the first. Chris arians is up there right.
I mean, they have a he's an example of somebody
who's on there, Eddie Royal. They have a really good committee.
But it seems like they're turning it over the top
two choices too, to the ad who will select and
then recommend it to the to uh the president for hire.
But I'm not I didn't think that they would have
a role in this, you know. And it's just kind
of floored by all this. I was a bit floored
by all this, and I didn't think that this would
be happened. I didn't think this would be happening today.
Speaker 4: You know. So we'll have.
Speaker 3: We'll have to see how this all goes here. But
that's it's it's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting to be
to say to say it, to say the least. But
on that note, man, what a great what a great
podcast we had tonight. So Jeff, you have a great
evening and we'll catch up next week. We've got a
great guest coming here next week. Let me just tell
everybody who we have coming here next week.
Speaker 4: I got to make.
Speaker 3: Sure I confirm, right, of course, but we have a
we have a great guest and is the retort guest
of this podcast. It's Carlos Banta, who used to write
a Southern fake skin about the acc He is our
Miami expert here on this block, and you know he
hit historically, I think he probably agreed Jeff.
Speaker 4: He's been a little yeah, like last year he said, yeah,
I'll go with eight and four. I'll go with eight
and four. And this year he was I mean, you're
think conservative.
Speaker 3: On his picks for Miami, but I don't think anybody
thought that he'd have. You know, nobody really thought Miami
would have the Heisman Trophy winner last year ready each quarterback,
and they're probably on track to having a Heisman Canada
again this year at Miami.
Speaker 4: And he's been very conservative about his picks.
Speaker 3: But he's he's coming on the pipe, but he also
gives it real to us right about the games.
Speaker 4: He's coming out here next week.
Speaker 3: And he'll be our guest for acc ACC Football next week.
So Jeff, have a great week friend, and we will
talk to you next week
Speaker 2: All right, See you next time, Matthew,