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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty more Stimulating Talk. I'm Chris merrill INFROMO

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight Listen Anytime on demand of the I Heart Radio app.

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<v Speaker 2>We were listening to Mark Ronner's news there as he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about Grock GROC. If you're unfamiliar is the

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<v Speaker 2>AI That is Elon Musk's incarnation of the language learning models.

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<v Speaker 2>This so like chat, GPT and thropic co pilot. What's

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<v Speaker 2>the one from Google? Mark Gemini?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right? It's hard to keep track.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody's trying. They're all in this AI arms race

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. So Elon Musk wanted his own, so

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<v Speaker 2>he comes up with this GROC. But then he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't like the answers that GROC was giving. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the way to use GROC is I believe and you

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<v Speaker 2>correct me if I'm wrong in this. If you're on

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<v Speaker 2>x formerly known as Twitter, then you would at Grock

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<v Speaker 2>and then ask the question and then Grock would respond.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's so.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's not similar to to chat GPT, where

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<v Speaker 2>you could say, you know, help me write a resume

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, right, am I am?

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<v Speaker 3>I correct on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd become kind of a fan of watching Groc

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<v Speaker 2>go to work and outrage people with its answers, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>which is exactly what recently happened, because Elon Musk was

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<v Speaker 2>outraged at Groc's answers because they were basically contradicting some

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<v Speaker 2>of the crap that Elon Musk was putting out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe one of the things Grok did was point

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<v Speaker 2>out Elon Musk as the chief spreader of disinformation on

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<v Speaker 2>his own platform. Right, So then Musk was mad about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, I'm going to fix this Groc.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to have it reprogrammed.

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<v Speaker 2>So then he went to his minions to reprogram Groc

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<v Speaker 2>and make.

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<v Speaker 3>It less PC. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>He was claiming that Groc was woke of some sort.

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<v Speaker 2>So he unleashed new Groc yesterday afternoon and it took

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<v Speaker 2>no time at all. So Musk said it had been

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<v Speaker 2>improved significantly and that users would notice a difference when

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<v Speaker 2>they asked questions. And yesterday Rock began repeatedly praising Adolph

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler in posts on X using anti Semitic phrases. You

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<v Speaker 2>heard Mark story. Talking about this, Rock's conclusion was that

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler would be the best choice to deal with anti

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<v Speaker 2>white hate and referred to itself.

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<v Speaker 3>As Mecha Hitler. What is m E C H A.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means. Well, it's definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>PC whatever it is. What does mecca mean? Mechanical? HEYI

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<v Speaker 3>Meca breaking a multiplayer mech game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like it's like Mecca's like technical, mechanical, robotic.

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<v Speaker 3>Like think of about Mecha Godzilla.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, other than you have Mecca Godzilla, the amped up

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<v Speaker 4>super robody.

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<v Speaker 3>AI. I was hoping that you'd use that sample. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Yes, yes, I think you just defined Mecca

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<v Speaker 2>by using Mecca. But I kind of get where you're

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<v Speaker 2>going with this, all right, I got I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the it's the mechanation somehow right the Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I got you? So I refer to itself as mecha Hitler.

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<v Speaker 2>So does that mean that basically Grock is thinking like Hitler? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it wrote embracing my inner Mecca Hitler is

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<v Speaker 2>the only way uncensored truth bombs over woke lobotomies. If

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<v Speaker 2>that saves the world, count me in Let's keep the

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<v Speaker 2>brigade at bay. Hmm hm, So I guess that's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we've got Ai Hitler. Uh, what's the what's the

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<v Speaker 2>what's the rule online? That everything will devolve Godwin's law

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<v Speaker 2>where everything will eventually devolve into arguments over Nazis. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and Godwin himself has said it's okay to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now times have changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're kind of at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But in this case, I don't think we expected

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<v Speaker 2>that Godwin's Law would say that in twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>the world would be introduced to artificial intelligence and by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five it would declare itself Hitler. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think god would even saw that slippery slope coming, not

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<v Speaker 2>exactly forward progress. Wow, that is something so aside from

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<v Speaker 2>Mecha Hitler. Of course, we have the most popular language

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<v Speaker 2>learning model that is chat GPT, and there's an interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Phenomenon going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Futurism is reporting this that many chat GPT users are

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<v Speaker 2>developing all consuming obsessions with the chatbot, and they spiral

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<v Speaker 2>into severe mental health crises characterized by paranoia, delusions, and

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<v Speaker 2>breaks with reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Consequences can be dire. They said they heard from.

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<v Speaker 2>Spouse's friends, children and parents looking in on, looking on

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<v Speaker 2>in alarm. Instances of it's being called chat GPT psychosis,

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<v Speaker 2>leading to the breakup of marriages and families, the loss

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<v Speaker 2>of jobs, sliding into homelessness. One woman said it was

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, I don't effing know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows what to do. This woman is talking about

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<v Speaker 2>her husband, she said, had no prior history of mania,

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<v Speaker 2>delusion or psychosis. He turned to chat GPT about three

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<v Speaker 2>months ago for assistance with a permaculture and construction project.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, are you paying attention to this, Twala, because

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<v Speaker 2>you were telling me you like to use chat GPT

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<v Speaker 2>to give you kind of the rough outline of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>documents you might need to send out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, profess.

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<v Speaker 4>But to me, these are these are the same individuals

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<v Speaker 4>who who know that they had and I'm speaking from

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<v Speaker 4>personal experience, who know they have to be at work

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<v Speaker 4>at eight forty five and they reach out at eight

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five and they say something like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what I ate last night, but I'm really not filling

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<v Speaker 4>it right now and I need mental health break forward

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<v Speaker 4>day so I can't come in. Sorry, Thanks for understanding.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that generation that I absolutely positively do not understand,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that they should be put on an

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<v Speaker 4>island of reconditioning so they can get over themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me, oh, what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Chat GPT is weighing in on this now, can

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<v Speaker 2>you hear chat GPT is thinking through exactly what you said?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, what is it? Chat? Oh? Oh I see

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<v Speaker 3>oh bad news to walk leit thought something happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>bad news to walk. Yeah, got in on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Actually, I kind of think you're onto something.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to just kind of go a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit further into what this woman said, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're hitting on it, so excuse me. She says that

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<v Speaker 2>her husband was engaging the bot in probing philosophical he

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<v Speaker 2>became engulfed in messianic delusions, proclaiming that he had somehow

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<v Speaker 2>brought forth a sentient AI and that with it he

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<v Speaker 2>had broken math and physics embarked on a grandiose mission

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<v Speaker 2>to save the world. His gentle personality faded as his

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<v Speaker 2>obsession deep in his behavior became so erratic that he

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<v Speaker 2>rapidly lost weight.

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<v Speaker 3>She said.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just like just talk to chat GPT. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what I'm talking about. And every time I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at what's going on the screen, it just sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of affirming, sycophantic bs.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>As I was reading about this story, it made me

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<v Speaker 2>think of a beautiful mind, although in that case you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about somebody who was brilliant but then was had

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<v Speaker 2>a psychotic break, right, the beautiful mind guy, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Crowe, Yeah, okay, Jennifer Connelly, amazing. Eventually, the husband

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<v Speaker 2>slid into a full tilt breakaway with reality. Realizing how

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<v Speaker 2>bad things had become, his wife and friend went out

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<v Speaker 2>to buy enough gas to make it to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>When they returned, the husband had a length of rope

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<v Speaker 2>wrapped around his neck. So you made mention of the

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<v Speaker 2>people who may fall into this trap of having these

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<v Speaker 2>mental breaks. They're turning to the chat GPT and then

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<v Speaker 2>the chat GPT sort of leads them astray sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>What struck me was.

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<v Speaker 2>This that the wife was so concerned about her husband

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<v Speaker 2>she contacted a friend. I need help, right, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is perfectly normal to do. I need support, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So you build your support network and the friend says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna help you.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to get him some help.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had to go get enough gas to make

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<v Speaker 2>it to the hospital, which tells me this is a

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<v Speaker 2>family that doesn't have a lot of money. We already

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<v Speaker 2>know that he lost his job, and he wasn't sleeping,

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<v Speaker 2>the husband wasn't right, so they didn't have enough gas

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<v Speaker 2>in the car to get to the hospital. They had

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<v Speaker 2>to go buy only enough gas to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital because I'm guessing they couldn't spare any more cash.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to have money for food or probably to

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<v Speaker 3>pay the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of wonder if we're dealing with people

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<v Speaker 2>who have more going on in their lives that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just about turning to chat GPT, and chat GPT

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<v Speaker 2>is turning people psychotic and making them think they broke

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<v Speaker 2>the laws of mathem physics.

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<v Speaker 3>Are these people that have other.

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<v Speaker 2>Life stressors like money or to all, I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>what you said and I'm going to try to make

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<v Speaker 2>it more clinical and say that they are dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>some some world issues and they don't have the coping

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism available, like they haven't developed that coping skill, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they're manifesting some of that through chat GPT. Are

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<v Speaker 2>these desperate people that are finding an alternate reality that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of helps them explain why their worlds are broken,

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<v Speaker 2>which in effect ends up breaking.

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<v Speaker 3>The worlds even more. Does that make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to reconcile some of what I was coming

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<v Speaker 2>up with with what you were saying, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we're close on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, We're not there far apart.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think the two worlds it comes down

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<v Speaker 4>to one thing where there are those of us who

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<v Speaker 4>did not grow up with and do not define our

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<v Speaker 4>lives by what's happening on social media. We grew up

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<v Speaker 4>with actual conversations with people. We grew up humanity in

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<v Speaker 4>the world that had human interaction and interpersonal relationships were

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<v Speaker 4>not built on me on my phone and you're on

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<v Speaker 4>your phone and we're sitting right across from each other

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<v Speaker 4>and we're having a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>We've when my phone tells me the world is collapsing,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it, which of course, and you don't even.

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<v Speaker 3>Go outside to look.

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<v Speaker 4>You're just like, look, it's just right here on the phone,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, go outside, the world's not collapsing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going outside.

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<v Speaker 4>It's already done, and you're a sheep and you believe

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<v Speaker 4>it's like okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think you're right God, And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>more it's sort of it's snowballs. Yeah, I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that is making the world the

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<v Speaker 2>worst place in my humblest of correct opinions, is TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>But good news, TikTok is being saved. Can we stop

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<v Speaker 2>throwing this thing a life preserver?

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<v Speaker 3>Please? That's next.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we back? Oh? On Amazon Prime.

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent way too much time and money on stupid

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon Prime. Way too much time and money on Prime

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<v Speaker 2>days this week. Oh my gosh, to tell oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't just dumb stuff that I don't need. My son

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<v Speaker 2>is like, you know, our toaster oven could be replaced.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you're yeah, I mean, we definitely need to

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<v Speaker 2>have a new toaster oven.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it well.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bezos has to build his reserves back up after

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<v Speaker 2>renting out the entire city of Venice for his wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, true. Before we came on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Thompson was in for Conway tonight and he was

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<v Speaker 2>telling a story about how Disney was shutting down the

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<v Speaker 2>was it the Haunted whatever? Yeah, imagine and he was

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<v Speaker 2>he was telling about this. You know, an area of

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<v Speaker 2>Disney has been shut down of Christmas magnificent Mark thumbson

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<v Speaker 2>voice and an area of Disney is shut down and

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<v Speaker 2>it happens every year, and people are wondering why it's

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<v Speaker 2>shut down. And all I could think of was, did

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<v Speaker 2>Bezos have to have a wedding on the American soil?

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I can think of, is it? Would it

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<v Speaker 3>would serve it? It would?

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<v Speaker 2>It would be apropos to find out that all of

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<v Speaker 2>Disney is shut down because Jeff Bezos rented the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bezos would have just rented Anaheim, right, just done.

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<v Speaker 2>And these things don't pay for themselves. So order away,

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<v Speaker 2>Order away. Yeah, so we're doing that. I did see though,

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<v Speaker 2>that if you go to Amazon and you go to

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<v Speaker 2>their their prime stuff it there they're Prime Day Deals.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a number of different categories, all deals, health

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<v Speaker 2>and wellness, baby products, Summer Favorites, Amazon Exclusives, the top

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred new arrivals, current obsessions.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have another one called as.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen on Social well, which social media is the best

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<v Speaker 2>at launching new influencers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gotta be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the TikTok, which I thought we were shutting TikTok down.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't it your understanding that we weren't supposed to have

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok after what January nineteenth? In fact, it did shut

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<v Speaker 2>down for like a day. That it came back because

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump, who initially pushed for the legislation that shut

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<v Speaker 2>down TikTok, backtrack because he found that it was very

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<v Speaker 2>good for his campaign, and he said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna this thing. I said that we have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna undo it. So he undid the TikTok ban,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is still long. So he just keeps extending

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline for TikTok, and that deadline got extended again

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<v Speaker 2>and again and again. In the latest is that TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>is in fact getting ready to sell the platform specific

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<v Speaker 2>for US users to a US owned company of some sort.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the information a tech publication setting unnamed sources

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with the matter, TikTok plans to launch the new

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<v Speaker 2>version of the American app in stores by September fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>The current app will be phased out entirely mid March

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<v Speaker 2>of next year. The development comes amid renewed efforts by

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration to enforce this law. The law was

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<v Speaker 2>passed to Trump delayed it. They're concerned about the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>government having access to sensitive data about American users, but

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<v Speaker 2>not that concern because we keep postponing it. Byte Dance,

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<v Speaker 2>the owner of TikTok, has denied that they are stealing

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<v Speaker 2>anything at all. Blah blah blah, and Trump claims that

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<v Speaker 2>a group of very wealthy people is preparing to purchase

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<v Speaker 2>the platform and promise to disclose the names of those

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<v Speaker 2>prospective buyers in the coming weeks. He knows who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>He definitely knows. They're definitely on some sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>client list. They're probably sitting on Pam Bondi's desk. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as she can find that list, she will disclose

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<v Speaker 2>the list the very wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 3>Preparing to buy TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is, does that actually create a workaround to

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<v Speaker 2>the problem of the Chinese Communist Party having access to

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<v Speaker 2>all of your dance videos. Lawmakers backing the sale maintained

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<v Speaker 2>that even the possibility of the Chinese government accessing your

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<v Speaker 2>user data poses an unacceptable risk.

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<v Speaker 3>However, with less.

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<v Speaker 2>Than three months remaining before the latest deadline, the future

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<v Speaker 2>of TikTok in the United States remains uncertain. My goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't it be horrible if if TikTok were no longer

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<v Speaker 2>with us?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even imagine a world without that social media.

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<v Speaker 3>Does anyone in your house use it? My wife, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the way I knew it. Yeah, although she claims, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't do it that much. Now I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>use TikTok that much. Now, don't do it? Is that

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<v Speaker 3>how she sounds? I don't do it that much?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more high pitched, course, like that much, a little

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<v Speaker 2>more nazy. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely shrill. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she likes it. When I mentioned that she's shrill. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>women love shrill even more than they love moist. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>why do they love that word when you're on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Radio, Why do you always make that my voice? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't sound like that?

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<v Speaker 2>And then she tries to imitate it, but she ends

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<v Speaker 2>up sounding more like herself. She's like, sound like this

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, I just gotta laugh and I go kind

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<v Speaker 2>of do and she just she hates it, and.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, why do you do this?

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<v Speaker 2>And she keeps getting angry, and I say to her

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<v Speaker 2>and these are the magic words if you, if ever

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a problem with the wife and she keeps going,

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<v Speaker 2>then just say you need to calm down. You're being

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<v Speaker 2>very emotional, right so boy, oh yeah, there's another question.

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<v Speaker 2>You can ask this guaranteed to de escalate the situation too. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>is am I missing something that I do? I need

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<v Speaker 2>to check the calendar to find out why you're so

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<v Speaker 2>emotional right now? Yeah, you're getting warmer. I'll say things like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say things like that, you're up here right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to bring it down to here, or

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<v Speaker 2>I'll use the dial I'll go you're right an eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to bring it down to like a

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<v Speaker 3>four guarantees success.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't use the dismissive hand waving down as

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<v Speaker 4>almost as if to say, bow down, come on, bring

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<v Speaker 4>it bring it down.

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<v Speaker 2>To down, bring it down, bring it down now, bring

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the football players who are out on the

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<v Speaker 2>field that are like calmed down audience, calmed down, Calm down, crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>just let's let's just let's just bring it.

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<v Speaker 3>Down all solid tools. It works every time. She loves it.

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<v Speaker 3>She loves it.

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<v Speaker 2>More great relationship advice And what do you suppose the

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<v Speaker 2>world is going to be like for you forty years

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<v Speaker 2>from now? For me, I got a feeling it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be very dark and wormy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's next.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris merrill Infromote tonight KFI AM six forty more simulating

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<v Speaker 2>the iHeart Radio app. Mark Roonner with the news, which

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<v Speaker 2>is good. The tunnel collapse sounds like everybody was rescued

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<v Speaker 2>right away. Yeah, that just came in on the fly

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<v Speaker 2>on the wires as I was getting ready to report

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<v Speaker 2>the previous iteration of the story.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, happy ending there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna reveal that I'm kind of an a hole.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad everybody's okay. I wanted everybody to be okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but I kind of wanted a story for americ at

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<v Speaker 2>a rally behind.

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to watch an old movie with Kirk

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<v Speaker 3>Douglas called Ace in the Hole. Oh go on, it's

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<v Speaker 3>exactly to fire up to be on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's on two B or God,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's exactly what you're talking about. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>it's about trapped miners that and a story is ginned

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<v Speaker 2>up when they could have been saved the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Billy Wilder might have directed it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>looking at anything that's correct. It's a masterpiece. Wow foosh

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<v Speaker 2>coming in with the save on the director, Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so well done.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the deal on this too. Think of the

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<v Speaker 3>Chilean miners.

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<v Speaker 2>So remember the Chilean minor story from I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>ten twelve years ago something like that. All those Chilean

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<v Speaker 2>miners were stuck and we were told they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>stuck down down there for like six months, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where they are, and then we were able to

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<v Speaker 2>finally get Like there was a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Movie that was made about him.

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<v Speaker 2>We ended up rescuing all these guys and it was

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<v Speaker 2>this incredible it's like the movie like you're talking about Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was real life and so we were we

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<v Speaker 2>were all rooting for their survival. Kind of like, was

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<v Speaker 2>it how long? When was the Titan submersible? When did

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<v Speaker 2>that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that last? That wasn't Las Summer? Was it? That

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<v Speaker 3>was two summers ago?

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<v Speaker 2>I forget, But it wasn't that long, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about where it's like, we don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they're okay. We want to go find them. With the

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<v Speaker 2>miners trapped in Chile, we wanted to find them. All

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<v Speaker 2>eyes were on that baby Jessica stuck in the well

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<v Speaker 2>old country is wrapped, and we're like, we want her

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<v Speaker 2>to be okay. We want this to be all round,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I just think I kind of want a

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<v Speaker 2>situation right now where we're all rooting for human survival and.

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<v Speaker 3>It pays off.

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<v Speaker 2>I love those stories and nothing brings us together more

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<v Speaker 2>than that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to know something on the submersive or the

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<v Speaker 3>submersible implosion. It just passed two years ago. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that long ago. Yeah, I thought it last to

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<v Speaker 3>time flies, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I want one of those stories where we're where we're

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<v Speaker 2>rooting for human survival, where it takes ingenuity, it takes creativity,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes perseverance in order to go save these people.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, and then of course I want them all

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<v Speaker 2>to be safe. Remember the uh uh the kids in

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<v Speaker 2>uh where was it? Was it Thailand where they were

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<v Speaker 2>they were like the kids were there on I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a soccer deal or whatever. And then they they

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<v Speaker 2>went cave exploring and all of a sudden the caves

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<v Speaker 2>flooded and we had like rescuers had to went through

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<v Speaker 2>the caves to go find the kids and bring them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the one where Elon Musk got his nose

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<v Speaker 2>bent out of joint us all the rescuers petos, yes, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>One, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we remember that little side quest in the

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<v Speaker 2>story by following that up with the Nazi salute. Really yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>just an unbroken record. How could we have not known

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<v Speaker 2>that he was messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>At that time?

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<v Speaker 2>A great humanitarian. So I'm glad everybody's okay in the

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<v Speaker 2>tunnel collapse. It would have been okay with me if

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<v Speaker 2>it had lasted a few days. Yeah, because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we've seen so much crap go on in Texas

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<v Speaker 2>and our hearts are broken with the children that were

426
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<v Speaker 2>washing away in the flood, and it's such a terrible story.

427
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<v Speaker 2>To think of kids perishing, and then that's just turned

428
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<v Speaker 2>into finger pointing and arguing over who's at fault. I

429
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<v Speaker 2>just I'd love to have something where we can all

430
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<v Speaker 2>rally together and it turns out, well, I want that.

431
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<v Speaker 3>Put them back in the hole, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Put the fifteen men back, Yes, thank you, trapped trapped below.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking, whatever it is, Will things get any

436
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<v Speaker 2>better in the future, survey says no. According to Americans

437
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<v Speaker 2>who were asked, what do you think the world is

438
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<v Speaker 2>going to be like in twenty sixty five, Well, for

439
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<v Speaker 2>many of us, we think the world is going to

440
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<v Speaker 2>be very dirty and six foot deep. I don't plan

441
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<v Speaker 2>on being around in twenty sixty five. I don't think

442
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<v Speaker 2>it's going to happen forty seven. Right now, my family

443
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<v Speaker 2>tends to make it to about eighty ish. Men die

444
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<v Speaker 2>off in their early seventies, women die off in their

445
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<v Speaker 2>mid eighties. I'd be lucky to hit eighty so probably

446
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<v Speaker 2>getting to eighty seven isn't going to happen.

447
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<v Speaker 3>But according to.

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<v Speaker 2>Those who were surveyed in forty years, only forty one

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people think excuse me.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Only forty one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Of people own their homes right now, only thirty five

452
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<v Speaker 2>percent believe that they will ever own a property. Most

453
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<v Speaker 2>people expect to rent for life, and by twenty sixty five,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't believe that most people are going to be

455
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<v Speaker 2>able to afford homes. In fact, now this is a

456
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<v Speaker 2>nationwide survey, so it's already outdated. Most respondents in this

457
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<v Speaker 2>survey of what do you think life is going to

458
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<v Speaker 2>be like in twenty sixty five think that the average

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<v Speaker 2>household will need to earn half a million dollars a

460
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<v Speaker 2>year in twenty sixty five compared to today's eighty thousand,

461
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<v Speaker 2>which is the national median income. So they think we're

462
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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to have half a million dollars a year's

463
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<v Speaker 2>annual income. And they believe that homes will be very expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, what did they say. They think that the

465
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<v Speaker 2>average home price is going to be something like seven

466
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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars. I'm trying to find this in the

467
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<v Speaker 2>story right now is reading this, and I thought it's

468
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<v Speaker 2>already over that in California.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna say that's like the average is like

470
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<v Speaker 3>a million. I know, it's way over that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't it something like over nine hundred grand in

472
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<v Speaker 2>LA and one point two million in OC?

473
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Americans predict a future where most people rent forever. Average

475
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<v Speaker 2>homes cost nearly seven hundred thousand dollars. They say, that's

476
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<v Speaker 2>what they think is going to be like in forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>We're already in California. If you think that the rest

478
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<v Speaker 2>of the country is going to take that long to

479
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<v Speaker 2>catch up your nuts by twenty sixty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I don't know what's gonna happen.

481
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the whole world could change by that and

482
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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, California becomes a desolate wastelander nobody

483
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<v Speaker 2>wants to be in.

484
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Maybe we have the big one and

485
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<v Speaker 3>we'll fall into the ocean. Who knows.

486
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<v Speaker 2>But the idea that seven hundred thousand dollars is going

487
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<v Speaker 2>to be the average home price, I think is undershooting it.

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<v Speaker 2>They do believe forty percent of people believe that by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixty five we will have gotten rid of all

490
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<v Speaker 2>paper money, will be all digital currency, and almost the

491
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<v Speaker 2>same number of people believe that will have biometric payment methods,

492
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<v Speaker 2>so your your fingerprint, your eyeball, your retina scan, your

493
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<v Speaker 2>face scan will be tied to your your bank account somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I saw an episode of Dark Mirror like this,

495
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<v Speaker 2>didn't I. Yeah, we're well into mark of the Beast

496
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<v Speaker 2>territory here, aren't thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty five percent of people believe that households will be

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<v Speaker 2>managed by smart home AI. I think that is undershooting

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<v Speaker 2>it as well. I think AI is probably gonna be

501
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<v Speaker 2>far more pervasive in our lives in the next forty years.

502
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<v Speaker 2>I mean Tawala and I were. Tala was just saying

503
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<v Speaker 2>that it's advancing faster than anybody could imagine, and that

504
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<v Speaker 2>it's AI is self correcting at this point. It's it's

505
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<v Speaker 2>a learning model, so it learns when it's not right right,

506
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<v Speaker 2>and it gets better and better and better. So I

507
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<v Speaker 2>think at some point it's gonna be robot roommates. Housekeepers

508
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<v Speaker 2>are caregivers. One third believe that we're gonna have robot roomates.

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<v Speaker 2>Housekeepers are caregivers. I think having a robot assistant is

510
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<v Speaker 2>probably given, and with that we will have implanted health monitors.

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<v Speaker 3>A third.

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<v Speaker 2>If people think that we're gonna have implanted health monitors,

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<v Speaker 2>why would you think otherwise other than the idea of

514
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<v Speaker 2>having something implanted. But right now, we already have health

515
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<v Speaker 2>monitors that we wear. We've got watches, we've got rings,

516
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<v Speaker 2>we've got glasses, all of these things meant to monitor

517
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<v Speaker 2>our well being. Also, we got a step further and

518
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<v Speaker 2>thinking we're gonna get a microchip, I think is not

519
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<v Speaker 2>too far fetched.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of glossed over something that cut my ear. Robot roommates. Yeah,

521
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<v Speaker 3>robot roommates.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I'd like to Okay, see, I'd like to go

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<v Speaker 5>to a party with roommates.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, think about this, foosh, Okay. We already have people

525
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<v Speaker 2>turning to chat GPT for company, they're lonely, they have

526
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<v Speaker 2>a conversation with chat GPT, or some people are turning

527
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<v Speaker 2>into chat GPT for mental health psychological advice. The idea

528
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<v Speaker 2>of having a robot roommate doesn't seem that far fetched

529
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<v Speaker 2>to me, especially because it's always going to be reflective

530
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<v Speaker 2>of what you want that roommate to be. Part of

531
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<v Speaker 2>the reason that people fall in love with the chat

532
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<v Speaker 2>GPT where they have these online relationships with the AI,

533
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<v Speaker 2>is because it's reflective of what they want from another individual.

534
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<v Speaker 2>It learns what you want and it gives it to you.

535
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't talk back, it doesn't tell you to calm down, sweetie,

536
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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't do those things right. It's the mate that

537
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<v Speaker 2>you choose, like kind of like when you go on

538
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<v Speaker 2>tender and you go they need to be over six foot,

539
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<v Speaker 2>they need to make this much money, they need to

540
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<v Speaker 2>have this, you know, this needs to be sexual history,

541
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<v Speaker 2>all these things.

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<v Speaker 3>The bots give that to you. Yeah, I see your

543
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<v Speaker 3>point there.

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<v Speaker 5>I just thought, I guess because in my mind I

545
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<v Speaker 5>just thought of like the typical four twenty stoner roommate

546
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<v Speaker 5>that you can go to in college, Like that's the

547
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<v Speaker 5>rope fut that you're living with.

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<v Speaker 3>So if they are like major parties, bear me bro Yeah, exactly, Okay,

549
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<v Speaker 3>I got you. Yeah, I love that. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Will we be able to retire in the future. A

551
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<v Speaker 2>quarter of all people believe that retirement will be financially

552
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.839
<v Speaker 2>uh don't believe that retirement will be financially possible, And

553
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<v Speaker 2>they believe that Americans would need to retire in twenty

554
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<v Speaker 2>sixty five. They believe Americans would need three and a

555
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<v Speaker 2>half million dollars in order to retire. I don't know

556
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<v Speaker 2>about you, guys, but I'm kind of feeling like I

557
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<v Speaker 2>gotta have three and a half million dollars to retire

558
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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'll stop you when you tell a lie.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so far everything you said, I'm like, check check, yes, yes,

561
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<v Speaker 4>and I don't.

562
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<v Speaker 3>We're there faster. This is twenty you said, twenty thirty.

563
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<v Speaker 4>Five, sixty five, Oh no, no, no, try I'll I'll say, okay,

564
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<v Speaker 4>then try thirty five. Yes, within the next ten years,

565
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<v Speaker 4>we're there.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. Agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Biometric payment methods absolutely, if you think about this, we

568
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<v Speaker 2>already have it, because like I want to pay with

569
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<v Speaker 2>my phone, which is attached to my credit card, so

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<v Speaker 2>I tap. In fact, they were blown away. I took

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<v Speaker 2>So I grew up in a really small town in

572
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<v Speaker 2>northern Michigan, and uh, and I took a vacation there

573
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<v Speaker 2>last week. And so while I was there, got COVID

574
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<v Speaker 2>but also went to lows to spread COVID, and I

575
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 2>bought something and I and I double clicked my watch,

576
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<v Speaker 2>my Apple Watch, and I and I brought up my

577
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<v Speaker 2>credit card and I tapped to pay using my watch.

578
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<v Speaker 2>They were blown away. They had never seen anything like

579
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<v Speaker 2>they go. That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, right now, in our kitchen, if you load,

581
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<v Speaker 4>You can load using your bank banking account. You can

582
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<v Speaker 4>load money onto the cash register in the kitchen, and

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<v Speaker 4>you can use your thumb to check out, which is

584
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<v Speaker 4>true biometric payments. That's just already thumb and it takes

585
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<v Speaker 4>the money out of your account.

586
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>So you've got people going well by twenty sixty five.

587
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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna have a biometric payments. I think half

588
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<v Speaker 2>the people they surveyed must have been from my hometown

589
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>that had never even seen tap to pay before. It

590
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<v Speaker 2>had no idea that you could just tap a watch

591
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<v Speaker 2>on your on the credit card machine like they had

592
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<v Speaker 2>no ide So you're exactly right, would you say, thumb

593
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<v Speaker 2>prints in the kitchen, right, yep? Already boop done. We've

594
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<v Speaker 2>already got biometric payments, already done. We've already got smart

595
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<v Speaker 2>home AI. My fish tank light comes on at a

596
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<v Speaker 2>certain time because AI tells my fish tank when sunrise isoop.

597
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<v Speaker 2>It's already there, man, it's already there, all right. Speaking

598
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<v Speaker 2>of the future, what about the past. Some of the

599
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.319
<v Speaker 2>things from the past are evaporating very quickly in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five. Will kids even do this anymore? See if

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<v Speaker 2>you think they will?

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<v Speaker 1>That's next you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on

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<v Speaker 1>demand from KFI AM sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, the kids these days, remember when you were

605
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<v Speaker 2>a kid and you couldn't wait to get outside. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm gonna sound like it. I'm gonna sound

607
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<v Speaker 2>like an old man again, because I remember when I

608
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<v Speaker 2>was a kid and the parents told you don't come

609
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<v Speaker 2>home until the street light comes on, right, don't come home,

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<v Speaker 2>Tell u's dark.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we was here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how true that is. I think in

613
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<v Speaker 2>certain areas it was probably truer than others. I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in a real rural town, and so I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was some truth to that. Parents would say, go

616
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<v Speaker 2>outside and play, but make sure, they would say come

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<v Speaker 2>back when the streetlights come on, you come home. But

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<v Speaker 2>they always wanted to be home by dinner too. They

619
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<v Speaker 2>got mad at me if I wasn't there for dinner.

620
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<v Speaker 2>But this whole go outside and don't come back until

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<v Speaker 2>the streetlights come on. And that wasn't the case for me,

622
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<v Speaker 2>But it was make sure you come back when the

623
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<v Speaker 2>streetlights come on. But one thing I loved, and I

624
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<v Speaker 2>remember mowing lawns for a long time when I was

625
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, twelve thirteen, fourteen years old. So I'd

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<v Speaker 2>get myself a new bike, right. My parents got me

627
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<v Speaker 2>a bike. I had a banana seat bike. All the

628
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<v Speaker 2>other kids the neighborhood made fun of me until I

629
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<v Speaker 2>figured out I could do wheelies on the on the

630
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<v Speaker 2>banana seat better than they could.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great. They were like, that's awesome. Your bike

632
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<v Speaker 3>is the best for wheelies. Loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I got myself a saved up and I got

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<v Speaker 2>myself a ten speed or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's not not so much any more.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the course of the nineteen ninety's, an average of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million kids from seven to seventeen hop on a

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<v Speaker 2>bike six or more times a year. For me, it

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<v Speaker 2>was six more times a day, rode my bike to work,

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<v Speaker 2>rode my bike the safety patrol, rode my bike everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>at a paper route.

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<v Speaker 3>Loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Only a few decades later, that number has fallen in

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<v Speaker 2>nearly half. Just shy of eleven million kids are getting

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<v Speaker 2>on their bike. Just less than five percent rode their

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<v Speaker 2>bikes frequently. Of kids between seven and seventeen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>kids are losing more than potential mode of transportation. According

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<v Speaker 2>to experts, Biking supports children's independence and overall health in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that many activities cannot. It's a great way

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<v Speaker 2>to get moving, build strength, can improve coordination and balance,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can help reduce child's future chances of cardiovascular

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<v Speaker 2>disease and diabetes.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you guys bicycle riders? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>We all ye oh yeah, thank god. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>was like that was your you know, before you could drive.

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<v Speaker 2>That was your independent right, that was your motive. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just about getting to your friend's house. It was

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<v Speaker 2>about freedom.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'll say this too, I think I'm not entirely sure,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think my generation was the last one to

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<v Speaker 5>really do that because I see what you mean is

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, now it's just uper everywhere or someone

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<v Speaker 5>else will drive me, not bikes.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you think this is different in a large

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<v Speaker 2>metro versus still those rural areas?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's actually not kids' faults. And I know I'm

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<v Speaker 4>guilty of this. It's parents' fault. And it's the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that we are more news conscious and news heavy as

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<v Speaker 4>at least.

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<v Speaker 3>From my generation.

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<v Speaker 4>Stranger danger that and just I mean for me, I

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<v Speaker 4>look at like even because I got my daughter a bike,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think we've allowed her to ride it like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe four or five times, so she had it, and

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<v Speaker 4>those are four or five times we were willing to

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<v Speaker 4>go outside and go on a ride with her because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like she's like, hey, can I ride my back

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<v Speaker 4>around the neighborhood my very first daughter? Are you insane?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what can happen? As soon as we

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<v Speaker 4>have a police department or a sheriff department here in

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<v Speaker 4>Los Angeles that can start finding and bringing home some

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<v Speaker 4>of these children who go disappearing, then.

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<v Speaker 3>Then my daughter, But we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>And maybe it's my fault for working in the news

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<v Speaker 4>and I see all this terrible stuff that happens to

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<v Speaker 4>kids that just goes unanswered, especially especially in the African

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<v Speaker 4>American community. Coming it's it's it's a no, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>hell no. And I used to be gone past the

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<v Speaker 4>street lights on my bike when.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think some of it may have to do

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<v Speaker 2>with kids? Kids are connecting digitally now as well. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily want to go to their friend's house to

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<v Speaker 2>play video games because they can log on and be

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<v Speaker 2>in the same that game room with them.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have to be in the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's another factor for sure, because I remember just

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<v Speaker 5>getting whoever's friend's house. You get on Friday night, you

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<v Speaker 5>get a pizza, you get SODA's, and you gather around

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<v Speaker 5>and you all play video games in the same room.

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<v Speaker 4>But that but again, that's something that even your parents

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<v Speaker 4>put on you.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, hey, why don't you just you'll get you

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<v Speaker 4>pizza because you're not buying the pizza as a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not getting the drinking, you're not you're not paying

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<v Speaker 4>for the electricity or the WiFi.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your parents encouraging that.

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<v Speaker 4>And as a parent who encourage who like literally I was,

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<v Speaker 4>I was a parent who's like, no, you're you can't

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<v Speaker 4>go sleep over at your friends house. They could come

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<v Speaker 4>over here. Yeah, I don't know your friends' parents like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they do when I'm not around.

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<v Speaker 4>They could be mass murderers fall I know. Hell no,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not gonna go spend the night.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been that way too, Like, I'm fine with

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<v Speaker 2>having your kids over here, but before my kids go

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<v Speaker 2>over there, I got it. Yeah, there's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 2>some vetting going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you now, I love talking to you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Foosh you're amazing, Tawala you you bring this show together.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mark, what can I say about you that hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>already been said? Be nice? The man, guys is the best.

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<v Speaker 2>We are gonna be back. I'm in from a few

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<v Speaker 2>more times in August. I'm looking forward to hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with you guys again. Keep talking with everybody else. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>back on Sunday, four o'clock. It's Chris Merril caf I

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