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<v Speaker 1>I should have known.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have known when I left it open for

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<v Speaker 2>c K there was a potential of getting weird spin doctors. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, nineties one Hit Wonders is where we went

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<v Speaker 2>with today? What year was this?

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say ninety three, ninety four ish?

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<v Speaker 3>That's fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Check me on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see spin doctors. What's the name of the song?

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<v Speaker 2>Two Princes Princes? Then they had another one little miss

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<v Speaker 2>camp be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. Only you would have this knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom, had the cassette played it in the Volvo.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'm off. Okay, that's still pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh can we be honest? Horrible band?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's why they were one hit wonder fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris camaraddniy Liven Studio. Hello, Christopher, how are you good man?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good? I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get the Shador Sanders stuff out of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>As really the only local media member that has experience

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<v Speaker 2>covering Colorado Dion and Shador. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think Dion did him a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a disservice throughout the course of this process, because you

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<v Speaker 2>hear a lot of like well, like his dad, he

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<v Speaker 2>sandbagged a bunch of interviews, and like his dad, he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to choose where he wanted to play. Dion could

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<v Speaker 2>have sandbagged every interview possible. He's the best cornerback potential

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever seen play. Chador is just simply not that talent.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he maybe was done a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a disservice by his father?

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<v Speaker 1>He was done a disservice by his father and basically

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<v Speaker 1>the entire ecosystem of the NFL draft, because if we're

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<v Speaker 1>being honest, the folks who are tasked with pontificating on

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<v Speaker 1>such things in the months and years prior at Shador

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<v Speaker 1>at a top as a top ten piss they did.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question is, was the lead up to the combine,

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<v Speaker 1>the interviews, skipping the combine, opting to maybe throw it

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<v Speaker 1>pro day, and then throwing a pro day. Did all

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff suddenly sour team so much to the

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<v Speaker 1>point that it cost him to slip four rounds. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Like and to me, like I told one

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<v Speaker 1>of my bosses, like, beyond the prank call, beyond where

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up. I think this is a learning lesson

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<v Speaker 1>for basically everybody who's involved in stuff like this, to

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<v Speaker 1>take a step back and figure out what went wrong

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<v Speaker 1>and why did it go wrong, because we've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>this before. I mean, like the closest analogy we have,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly is Rogers was it was Aaron sliding when Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Smith went one and still a first rounder, still a

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<v Speaker 1>first rounder and obviously went to the ideal spot when

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl is going to be a first ballot

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. But I don't I can't remember ever

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<v Speaker 1>having a prospect in the most important position in football,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone sports slide at the level that Shador Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>slid to. And I think we will have think pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we will have reports coming out in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming days. I mean, Diana was Seen, who works with

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<v Speaker 1>me at the Athletic Now, reported this week that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it came down to the interviews, came

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<v Speaker 1>down to the fact that he didn't want to participate

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<v Speaker 1>at the combine. And again, my question is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be for a while now until we get it answered,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll only get an answered through sources, through league sources,

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<v Speaker 1>through people who will speak on condition of anonymity because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these folks, remember most people in the

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<v Speaker 1>world of sports kind of live in semi fear of

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<v Speaker 1>Deon Sanders. You do not want to get on the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong side of Dion because of the cultural and medius

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<v Speaker 1>way that he has. But again, how did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>How did this kid go from being like maybe where

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers going to take him at twenty one as

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<v Speaker 1>recently as a month ago, to going in the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>round to the Browns after they had selected Dylan Gabriel

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<v Speaker 1>the third round. It's a fascinating story and I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see what in the coming weeks and months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and your point about the conversation, I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a point last year mid season where Vegas had

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good odds for Shador to be a finalist for

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<v Speaker 2>the Heisman Trophy and be the number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't just people throwing stuff against the wall

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<v Speaker 2>to hope it would stick, like you could get odds

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<v Speaker 2>on should or going number one. Mid season last year

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<v Speaker 2>there was the Saints at nine, who need a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>To your point of this Dealers at twenty one. I

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<v Speaker 2>do often find the chasm between NFL talent evaluators, NBA

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<v Speaker 2>talent evaluators, and media talent evaluators interesting because how much

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<v Speaker 2>of the media talent evaluating is also draped in I

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<v Speaker 2>want this to be a great story, Like we sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and watch mel Kuiper lose his mind for three

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<v Speaker 2>days because he thought should or should be the number

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<v Speaker 2>one overall pick. Is that mel Kiper really analyzing should

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<v Speaker 2>Or as a talent or is that mel Kiper the

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<v Speaker 2>actor on television also wanting the story? Right, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>gap between the two. You're taught when you're evaluating talent.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're working for a team, you're taught to remove emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>Now do you have to analyze everything that surrounds the player?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? But can he play simple? Bottom line?

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<v Speaker 2>But on the media side of things, how much of

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<v Speaker 2>this talent evaluation is draped in the narrative that they

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<v Speaker 2>want you to click on their stuff and watch their

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<v Speaker 2>TV show?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a business in of itself, and the sport

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<v Speaker 1>has owned the off season like unlike any other professional sport.

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<v Speaker 1>We have really like worldwide because the international soccer window

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<v Speaker 1>can get exciting, But the summer transfer window, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the most important transfer window indeed, is only like three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks long and you don't have you'll have some monumental

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<v Speaker 1>movement like in Bob Beta Real Madrid that comes along

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<v Speaker 1>once a blue moon. You can make an argument that

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<v Speaker 1>people are more tantalized by the off season and the

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<v Speaker 1>draft than they are by the season for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teams, because in the NFL, a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 1>are bad for a long time, and all you have

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<v Speaker 1>to sell them is hope. And what did we learn

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<v Speaker 1>from Ted Lasso?

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<v Speaker 3>It kills you.

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<v Speaker 1>The hope that kills you.

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<v Speaker 3>So Porter loved that show, That Porter's show hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. My point is is it is a It

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<v Speaker 1>is an ecosystem in of itself, the NFL Draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have figured out a cultivated a

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<v Speaker 1>way to market themselves as pseudo experts. Selfishly, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to lean and rock with my guy Dane Brugler, who

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<v Speaker 1>you've had on the show many times, who knows the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because he isn't one of those guys. He is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the the guy behind the curtains for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. It is like I'll show up in October

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<v Speaker 1>November and I'll and I'll start to give you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some feedback on who I think is good.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Internet's a fickle place, man, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can create a a fabricated existence for yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>project yourself as an expert when you're really not, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can be a fan of things. But unfortunately, in

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<v Speaker 1>this world, somebody might find something hyperbolic and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this person said it. Oh, let me check out their

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<v Speaker 1>online bio on x Oh they're a draft expert. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's spin this and let's aggregate it and then send

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<v Speaker 1>it into the universe and then it takes on a

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<v Speaker 1>life of its own. And this happens often, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL draft it happens at an alarmingly high rate.

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<v Speaker 2>Order brought this up, and I think it's spot on.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's see Dane hat youd or going twenty one. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants trading back in. But I think as far

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<v Speaker 2>as his overall big board, he was like forty three

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<v Speaker 2>or something. So Dane actually was closer than most of

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<v Speaker 2>the other analysts, certainly the mel Kuipers of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know if there's another.

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<v Speaker 2>Events or anything on the sporting calendar that's covered by

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<v Speaker 2>more liars and charlatans than the NFL draft. No Porter

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<v Speaker 2>brought it up, it's one hundred percent correct because people

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<v Speaker 2>realize you could be Joe Schmoe that knows nothing about

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing, and you create a mock and it

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<v Speaker 2>finds its way into an algorithm. People are going to

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<v Speaker 2>click on mock drafts no matter what, and it always

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<v Speaker 2>makes it hard to understand where the real information.

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<v Speaker 3>Is coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, you're also getting smoke screens and misdirections from teams.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most undersold part of this. And talk about that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've been in the front office rooms before, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's also what makes it complicated, because what you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do when you're in a front office is

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<v Speaker 2>you use your media contacts to send out messages via

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<v Speaker 2>the media that will throw other teams off your sense

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<v Speaker 2>and will make other teams believe that you're actually looking

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<v Speaker 2>at players that you have no desire to select, and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to throw media, you know, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>throw the media messaging out there. Teams actually stay away

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<v Speaker 2>from the guy that you like or think that you

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<v Speaker 2>like somebody that you don't. And therefore it makes our

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<v Speaker 2>job analyzing this stuff beyond microphones or beyond computers riding

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<v Speaker 2>about it really hard to do. And that's why you

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<v Speaker 2>can look at every single mock. Everybody gets it wrong

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<v Speaker 2>every single year, so it makes it hard to really

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<v Speaker 2>understand what's real and what isn't. But you made multiple

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<v Speaker 2>trips down to Boulder to cover Colorado and Dion and

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<v Speaker 2>Shador and I told this anecdote Monday after the draft

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<v Speaker 2>where when we were down, well.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Vegas Big twelve Media Day this year is

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<v Speaker 2>When we were in Vegas for Big twelve Media Day,

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<v Speaker 2>we're on radio row, We're interviewing players and coaches, Kenny Dillingham.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you go down the list and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty docile environment. Intel boom. You look over, double

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<v Speaker 2>doors open. Six cameras are following Shador and Shiloh and

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<v Speaker 2>Dion as they walk in, and suddenly the circus isn't town.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're running a front office, if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>general manager, you don't want the circus in town for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody you perceived to be as a backup quarterback, like

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<v Speaker 2>all things being equal, unless you're a generational talent, unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're Peyton, unless you're Andrew Luck, and there are no

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<v Speaker 2>questions about who you could be as a quarterback all

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<v Speaker 2>of your variables really need to be in place, and

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like a lot of the variables surrounding Shador

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<v Speaker 2>were question marks that were never fully answered.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he existed in a biodome of he existed a biodome.

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<v Speaker 1>Great movie, by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, right, solidy, we could go there, we could.

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<v Speaker 1>He existed in this reality that was cultivated from the

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<v Speaker 1>get go, having always been coached by his dad, Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer, you know, bombastic human being, like like a

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<v Speaker 1>plus genius and messaging. But to your point, yes, like

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<v Speaker 1>what this was was this was the ultimate reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL has the zeroest time for bs. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I could have said it like it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been a good one to land right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just do not suffer fools. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying Shadoor is a fool. I'm just saying, like they

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<v Speaker 1>do not have time for the pomp and circumstance, like

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<v Speaker 1>granted there. You know, there have been some characters over

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of questions like Johnny mansiin is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, And you know, you know, different set of circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>different set of issues, But like, what would be really

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating would be go into a multiverse and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>if Shador doesn't play for Dion, if Shador goes to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Texas Tech or a different school, does this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation change Because he's a he is a You can't

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<v Speaker 1>say he's not a good quarterback. He's a good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But the line of delineation that I found fascinating after

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the tape. If that's the argument, then why

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that he had a circumstance where he played

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<v Speaker 1>for his dad, who obviously prioritized the offense around him

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<v Speaker 1>to make him look good, but they failed to recruit

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman two years in a row. He was running

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<v Speaker 1>for his life. He was the most sacked quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>college football the last two years he held the ball

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<v Speaker 1>way too long, but he could make some throws. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely one hundred percent confident by saying this, like if

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<v Speaker 1>should or gets a shot like he will not look terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a chance he might not pay out, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to be the least prepared quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>at Colorado's pro day last year or fall camp media day, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Dion spoke, and then the other two people that got

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<v Speaker 1>Chador and Shiloh Oh come on, that doesn't surprise you.

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<v Speaker 1>And again going back to the biodome, the ecosystem, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just the the prince who was promised. Once you get

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing that I'm really interested in is like

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<v Speaker 1>to because he's playing quarterback right, which is a position

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<v Speaker 1>that takes on a life of its own. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>much more pressure than cornerback. Dion could could, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go one on one with Chris Carter or Andre Risen

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<v Speaker 1>or Jerry Rice. But like Shador, if he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>this is a totally different ballgame. I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to see something like this again, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why I think the draft coverage was so intense. It

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<v Speaker 1>very tiresome and it and it turned into I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Network in ESPN because everybody was waiting at baited breath

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<v Speaker 1>for where Shador going to go. But you can make

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<v Speaker 1>an argument that the entire weekend was hijacked by this. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Marshawn from your outlet from the Athletic wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>Moon Rising? Andre Rising? Was he the one who was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Left Eye who burned this house down?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, a couple more draft things before you catch

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<v Speaker 2>Is it an indictment at all that Caleb Lohner was

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<v Speaker 2>the only you drafted and no BYU players are drafted?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is this just a moment in time. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>great question.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking with this about this with Porter while

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<v Speaker 1>you were on your last segment. What are the odds

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<v Speaker 1>that the only dude between both schools, both rivals who

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<v Speaker 1>is drafted is a former basketball player that played basketball

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<v Speaker 1>at both of those schools.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm gonna go the logical route and say

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<v Speaker 1>it's lightning in a bottle. But you're looking at back

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<v Speaker 1>to back years now where Utah didn't have much NFL talent.

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<v Speaker 1>BYU's different because a lot of their guys either transferred

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<v Speaker 1>in the portal or stayed. I mean most of their

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<v Speaker 1>guys stayed, honestly, But I don't know, like, off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of my head, who would have gone really all

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<v Speaker 1>that much higher than Caleb, even at BYU, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Junior would be drafted Tifuna.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean he he came. It all depends

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<v Speaker 1>on who you play with. Man Junior played with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better talent his early years at the U than

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<v Speaker 1>his later years. And when you play with better players,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going you're going to look better because they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make you look better. Yeah. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>if Chase would have been I mean he probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have maybe six seven rounds, six seventh round. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>other than that, it's a really fascinating team if you

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<v Speaker 1>really think about it, because like they were so good,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't have because the Etien kid didn't get drafted. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't. So yeah, it's I think i'll say lightning

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<v Speaker 1>in a bottle moment. But for Utah, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>time where it was like every year you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>relied upon to have a top three round pick. Now

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<v Speaker 1>next year it'll be different because Spencer Fano is likely

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten pick. But there was a time during

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<v Speaker 1>Utah's you know, PAC twelve run for the demise of

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<v Speaker 1>the conference, where you were looking at four or five

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<v Speaker 1>guys going from you know, rounds two to six every

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a lot of them landed. I thought Batty

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<v Speaker 2>would be drafted. I thought Tyler Batty was gonna get drafted,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of them landed on their feet. Conra

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<v Speaker 2>O'Toole got one of the richest like undrafted deals with Seattle.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he got like three hundred k guaranteed with

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<v Speaker 2>a signing bonus. But yeah, it's just always interesting to consider.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we should shout out Jalen Royals, who was

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<v Speaker 3>Fano is a top ten pick. Is that what we're here?

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<v Speaker 1>My guy Dan Brugler has him as a top.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten Really okay, very nice. Well, hopefully it is just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment in time. All right, we'll catch a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>also are going to bring in Dave Fox today, who

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<v Speaker 2>has two Pelotons and two Emmys. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely don't have an Emmy. I have an old

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<v Speaker 2>thing I heard he was out of Utah Royals game

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<v Speaker 2>get his mic on.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that was the last time I saw Cam publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I think he went with a couple of former

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<v Speaker 3>Porter.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard anything about the future of one young

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Rising.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think that's kind of the question right now

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<v Speaker 4>last night. Just to be clear, last I talked to

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<v Speaker 4>Cam was in January, so at that point he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly thought he'd make like three hundred grand and

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<v Speaker 2>go play quarterback for like Sacramento State or something. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they just got Jaden Rashata. It was just a hypothetical.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, not that school, per se. But didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you think that maybe you go play another year of

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<v Speaker 2>college football?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe? But man, I mean, we've talked about the sad nauseam,

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<v Speaker 1>but the amount of serious injury back to back to back,

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<v Speaker 1>component is as hard, if not harder than the physical

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<v Speaker 1>part at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there was any conversation at all about

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<v Speaker 2>him coming back to Utah?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess would be.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just one of those things like, hey, this has been great,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's still guarantee that Cam wants to still play. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's what I mean. No, for sure? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to guess. But we have to

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<v Speaker 1>prepare for and the eventuality that football will not work

423
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<v Speaker 1>out for a lot of people. And you know, Cam

424
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<v Speaker 1>reached some incredible heights, but like I said, to go

425
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<v Speaker 1>through the amount of injuries that he'd went through in

426
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<v Speaker 1>his career, just a Utah alone is a lot.

427
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<v Speaker 3>Do you think the time of.

428
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<v Speaker 2>College football college basketball programs building their programs with athletes

429
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<v Speaker 2>and players that we all get to know over the

430
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<v Speaker 2>course of two, three, four, five years is just completely done?

431
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<v Speaker 2>Because when you look at the history, well, and this

432
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<v Speaker 2>isn't just a Utah thing, but if we're you're going

433
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<v Speaker 2>to use our local example as the home of the U,

434
00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:08.880
<v Speaker 2>it's family on three the basketball program, you know, the

435
00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:11.519
<v Speaker 2>teams that were the best and the teams that everyone

436
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:16.759
<v Speaker 2>remembers Van Horn, britt Andre, three four year guys. The

437
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<v Speaker 2>best football teams we had were guys that stayed here two, three,

438
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<v Speaker 2>four years.

439
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:22.039
<v Speaker 3>They were upperclassmen.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

441
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<v Speaker 3>And you know it's not just.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Success, but it's also this thing in the community where Hey,

443
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<v Speaker 2>Britain's a senior or Cameron's camraisings like, Okay, they're coming back.

444
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<v Speaker 3>Do you think those days are over?

445
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<v Speaker 1>Nor your guy at Yukon's coming back for a senior year?

446
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<v Speaker 1>That yeah. I mean the guy who was a lottery

447
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<v Speaker 1>pick projection just a couple of years ago. I guess

448
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<v Speaker 1>he likes Dan Hurley a lot.

449
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<v Speaker 2>It's also getting paid a little money, so played.

450
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<v Speaker 1>A little getting paid a little money. I mean, one

451
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<v Speaker 1>thing I will say about in a little bit of

452
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<v Speaker 1>a caveat On. You know the the PAC twelve title

453
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<v Speaker 1>teams is like a lot of those teams were transfers.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Cam was a transfer. S Quinn Jackson was a transfer. Yep.

455
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<v Speaker 1>A lot of guys who are part of that team

456
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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily start out as utes. I think college basketball

457
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<v Speaker 1>still has a chance because the roster size is small

458
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<v Speaker 1>enough you can afford in theory to pay a decent

459
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<v Speaker 1>amount of nil money to players who want to stay

460
00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and make money rather than risking rolling the dice and

461
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<v Speaker 1>go into the NBA. And depending on where you go

462
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<v Speaker 1>to school, the house settlement could benefit basketball players like

463
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<v Speaker 1>pretty well yeah, I mean like I would imagine the

464
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<v Speaker 1>house settlement will help yukon basketball more than it will

465
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<v Speaker 1>uk on football.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Well, and Richie Saunders announces he's coming back, and the

467
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<v Speaker 2>reports are that's a seven figure deal. How about BYU

468
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<v Speaker 2>basketball if all the reports are true, paying between thirteen

469
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<v Speaker 2>and fifteen million dollars for their roster next year?

470
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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Well, I mean I was told, I

471
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<v Speaker 1>was told, I was told that b WHYU doesn't prioritize.

472
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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, they also out love, and out develop and

473
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<v Speaker 2>outserve everybody. Okay, yes, indeed we know all of that.

474
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<v Speaker 2>But Jeff Goodman is the one that reported the Baylor

475
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<v Speaker 2>kid is getting three mil aj debands to seven mil

476
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<v Speaker 2>for five months of basketball. That's ten Richie gets seven figures.

477
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<v Speaker 1>There's stays on campus shout out, you gotta go, you

478
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.759
<v Speaker 1>gotta go down to campus. You gotta get some some

479
00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:16.799
<v Speaker 1>swigs with aj.

480
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<v Speaker 2>I'll go, I'll crush some uh, what's the cookie company,

481
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<v Speaker 2>Crumble crumble or chip I'll crush.

482
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<v Speaker 1>It's not idea, it's a remote.

483
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<v Speaker 2>It's an excellent idea. I wish I would have thought

484
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<v Speaker 2>of it. Zach Wilson bought a bunch of chips, I

485
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<v Speaker 2>think with his New York Jets money. But yes, I

486
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<v Speaker 2>mean all of the lovely ancillary BYU.

487
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<v Speaker 3>We love everybody, out serve everybody.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Things aside, if you just do the math based off

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<v Speaker 2>the reports thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>To fifteen min it makes sense just because it's so

491
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<v Speaker 1>it's so front loaded or you know, top loaded, with

492
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<v Speaker 1>with AJ getting that much money, you're probably never gonna

493
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<v Speaker 1>pay that again to another, you know, number one crew

494
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<v Speaker 1>in the country unless your guy, Kevin k why my guy,

495
00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.160
<v Speaker 1>my guy, unless he manages to strike gold twice and

496
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<v Speaker 1>keeps this thing rolling. But I mean, even if you

497
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<v Speaker 1>take AJ out of the equation, then you're saying you're

498
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<v Speaker 1>paying seven to eight million dollars for the rest of

499
00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the roster. That still makes sense and probably is necessary

500
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<v Speaker 1>in a conference like the Big twelve.

501
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<v Speaker 2>See, that's the thing, and that's why I don't get

502
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the Steve Bannon muddy the waters flood the zone with

503
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.279
<v Speaker 2>misinformation and then the deflection about what's really going on.

504
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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why the culture just can't embrace and

505
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<v Speaker 2>be honest and authentic about what's really happening. And the

506
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<v Speaker 2>reason I don't get it is that it's not a

507
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<v Speaker 2>bad thing. To your point, if you want to keep up,

508
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.559
<v Speaker 2>it's what you have to do. Like Utah should be

509
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<v Speaker 2>so lucky to be paying this roster thirteen to fifteen

510
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.119
<v Speaker 2>mil and they're good, Like BYU is going to be

511
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.319
<v Speaker 2>a top five team next year, and it's because they

512
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:45.839
<v Speaker 2>have deep pockets, it's not because they outlove everybody.

513
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<v Speaker 3>Just stop saying things like.

514
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<v Speaker 1>That, is BYU a final fourteen? It could be? Is

515
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<v Speaker 1>is I don't I'm coming in. I'm coming on the

516
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>drive with zero AJ debonsa tape Are you Are You? Is? Like?

517
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<v Speaker 1>Is he the surefire number one? The following he's awesome?

518
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Like he is he as guaranteed the number one pick

519
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>in the twenty sixth draft, as Cooper Flag was for

520
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<v Speaker 1>the twenty.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Five No, because there's another kid in that draft that's

522
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<v Speaker 2>thought to be on his level. Okay, but everything I've

523
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<v Speaker 2>seen on tape, because you know me, grind, grind on

524
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<v Speaker 2>the tape.

525
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<v Speaker 1>Give me, give me your cump, give me your spench. Check.

526
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>He's he's a Lebron type wing. He's a Durant type wing.

527
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<v Speaker 2>He is a Kawhi type wing. He is all of

528
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<v Speaker 2>six 't eighty sixty nine. He's got a big body,

529
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<v Speaker 2>and even at his age, he doesn't need to fill

530
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<v Speaker 2>out much. I mean usually when we see seventeen eighteen

531
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<v Speaker 2>year old great players, it's like they got to put

532
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 2>on ten to fifteen pounds. Aj is big, He's strong,

533
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:36.759
<v Speaker 2>he can handle it, he can shoot it. He finishes

534
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>on the break, he finishes with force, and he guards

535
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<v Speaker 2>three or four positions. He's awesome. Can he shoot He

536
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>can shoot it. There's nothing he can't do. The only

537
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>thing he has to improve on is incrementally on everything

538
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>that he he's already awesome at, and then learn how

539
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>to play against men in the NBA. But no, he's

540
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 2>surefire like BYU fans are gonna love him. He's awesome.

541
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<v Speaker 2>He's all that.

542
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<v Speaker 1>So you think he'll be able to handle the pressure

543
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<v Speaker 1>of playing Utah twice a year question?

544
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:02.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the pressure of the Huntsman Center

545
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>might get to him. But no, I mean it's he's

546
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>worth every penny they're paying him. I just don't understand

547
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 2>why people can't say it out loud, like what are

548
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you hiding? What are you trying to deflect from? Is

549
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>it like an embarrassment, like they don't want to admit

550
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.799
<v Speaker 2>that they're outbidding everybody. I just don't understand the dynamic

551
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<v Speaker 2>at all.

552
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, I don't know if it's an embarrassment. I

553
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<v Speaker 1>just think you lean in long enough to an approach

554
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.839
<v Speaker 1>to things that maybe you feel like you're portraying all

555
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the legwork that you've done up until this point. But

556
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<v Speaker 1>I agree wholeheartedly. I mean Kirk Bowles, who is a

557
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<v Speaker 1>Austin based calmnist who's covered University of Texas for a

558
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<v Speaker 1>long time. He's not the Houston Chronicle. He reported today

559
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<v Speaker 1>from several sources that he anticipates Texas spending as much

560
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<v Speaker 1>as forty million dollars on their football team this year.

561
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<v Speaker 2>And it's what you gotta do, yep, you know, And

562
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>all of the pearl clutching right about not wanting to

563
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<v Speaker 2>admit this is what's happening.

564
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<v Speaker 3>You should lean into it.

565
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<v Speaker 2>One caveat that I think is important to make, and

566
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<v Speaker 2>maybe this is the sensitivities of the culture of Brigham

567
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Young is that maybe there's an idea that the church

568
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>up here on South Temple or whatever is writing the checks,

569
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>and we should be very clear that's not happening, right.

570
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>These are Crimson or Royal Blue or whatever the current

571
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<v Speaker 2>nil stuff is down there. These are wealthy donors that

572
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 2>donate to the collective that are paying the bills. The

573
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>checks aren't coming from the church. Maybe that's what people

574
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<v Speaker 2>are sensitive about.

575
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I guess any school, not Utah,

576
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>any school would be lucky to have that amount of

577
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>money at their disposal to build a basketball program, and

578
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 1>a competitive one at that.

579
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Is b YU currently paying more for their basketball team

580
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>than RSL is paying for their soccer team.

581
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Are we counting transfer fees?

582
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, ooh, probably that's wild to consider.

583
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.519
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get this because we talked about it

584
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>off air, one more football thing before we kind of

585
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>move on, because one of the conversations that you hear

586
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>post draft are NFL gms and executives turned off at

587
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the way Shador handled the process. And there simply is

588
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 2>no other league or any other sport that has this

589
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 2>kissed the ring protect the shield field kind of like,

590
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, quite like football, would you agree with that?

591
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Like the NFL protect the shield, kiss the ring. There

592
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 2>is this like cultish feel around football and if you

593
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 2>don't handle yourself, well, nobody's bigger than the Shield in

594
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, like nobody is.

595
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<v Speaker 1>Well. Yeah, And there's a reason why it took And

596
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 1>this is a very dark turn, but it's the reality.

597
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 1>If there's a reason why it took so many tragedies

598
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 1>in the world of CTE, why it took a movie

599
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 1>like Concussion, why it took something as severe as deaths

600
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:55.079
<v Speaker 1>of former players for anybody to even remotely challenge the league, right,

601
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And there's lots of guys who are still afraid to

602
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about it because they're afraid of being shunned or

603
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<v Speaker 1>being excommunicated, or being viewed as the type of person

604
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't respect or you know, have this devout loyalty

605
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<v Speaker 1>to the quote unquote shield. It's it's ridiculous.

606
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<v Speaker 2>What is it about football that breeds the religious man?

607
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>We don't have enough time for that.

608
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh we do, we do.

609
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<v Speaker 2>But there's something different even about fandom.

610
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<v Speaker 1>Man, and it's man in it's man in the arena.

611
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<v Speaker 1>It is our modern day Gladiator, and I'm and I'm

612
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<v Speaker 1>throwing out all the cliche bs. This is not stuff

613
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 1>I believe, but this is stuff that some people believe.

614
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Most of it is living vicariously through athletes and people

615
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 1>that they'll we know will never be able to be

616
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.519
<v Speaker 1>fast enough or strong enough, or good enough or talented enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a great question because you can make an

618
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<v Speaker 1>argument that it's leveled up significantly even in the last

619
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<v Speaker 1>like twenty five years. I don't. I'm sure this comes

620
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>along with the advent of the Internet and social media

621
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<v Speaker 1>and the explosion of media rights and basically being able

622
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 1>to watch every game, But why do you have to

623
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 1>spend five hundred dollars on NFL network or in red

624
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 1>zone red zone? Yeah? Like, and people pay it like

625
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not even a second thought. I gotta watch my Jack,

626
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I gotta watch Jaguars, I gotta watch the Carolina Panthers.

627
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you don't.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's something even about fandom where you see people

629
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<v Speaker 2>visit their favorite NFL arena for the first time and

630
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>openly weep, or go to the Rose Bowl for the

631
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<v Speaker 2>first time and openly cry. And then there's the whole

632
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<v Speaker 2>media race to prove who's the hornyess for football when

633
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 2>fall comes, which is just.

634
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's booky man, it is it is. It is odd. Yeah,

635
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean that sounds like a story.

636
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I should explore that our football guys is uncomfortable.

637
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right in there.

638
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 1>No, I was just saying, it's me. Oh, I know,

639
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm most ready for Porter goes to Jerry World and

640
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 1>he's just like ready to take out.

641
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 2>As orders a card carrying member of the Church of

642
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Football and Saturdays and Sundays and look, I love football.

643
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 3>I've always my whole life, I've loved football.

644
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 2>But whenever anything starts to feel cultish, I tend to

645
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>go the other way. I'm like, Okay, that's a little

646
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>weird because still at the end of the day, we

647
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 2>are talking about children's game in college played by mostly children. Yeah,

648
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 2>that is consumed by people that make it their entire identity,

649
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>and when the season ends, it's like they're lost.

650
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.279
<v Speaker 3>They're wandering in this abyss. They don't know what to do.

651
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, little story tease for you, which has been a while.

652
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 3>What finally, because you don't tweet them out anymore.

653
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I spent a day with Dan Mullen in Vegas last week.

654
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Nice and we talked about this okay, and what we

655
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 1>can talk about it more next week after the peace

656
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 1>comes out. I think it's supposed to come out on Monday.

657
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But Dan was very transparent and honest about the grind

658
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 1>and the drain of the reality of football and college

659
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>football and the sec and how beneficial it was for

660
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>him to be away from it and enjoy it. Like

661
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, if you're good at TV, it's fun.

662
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Dan was good at TV, was yeah, and he probably

663
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>could have been on ESPN for another twenty years and

664
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>been good. He told me that as much when I

665
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>was in Vegas. But it is fascinating to get the

666
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>perspective from guys who get a break from it and

667
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>then get back into it because they're they're basically challenging

668
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 1>themselves again again to try to not let what happened

669
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the first time happen again.

670
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested to hear his thoughts and read what you

671
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>have to say, because nobody can live up to the

672
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>pressure of being a deity. If you're a football player

673
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 2>and a football coach and these fans in your community

674
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>treat you like you like you walk on water, that

675
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>has to be exhausting to deal with day in and

676
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>day out.

677
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think Dan had had a quote where he

678
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, in the sec if you win, people will

679
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 1>be good job. But if you lose, it's like you

680
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>walked in the front door and kick their.

681
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Dog, for sure.

682
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.359
<v Speaker 2>For sure. You know there's there's a little bit of

683
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 2>that with what happened with Utah football year ago. You know,

684
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>coach Waite has spoiled this community so much that one

685
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>down year I.

686
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Mean victim of your own circumstances success, Yeah, and you'd

687
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>rather take that ten times out of ten, because if

688
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 1>you don't have success, you don't have the job.

689
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 3>In the first place anymore, for sure.

690
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>But perspective is important, man. It's important in fandom, it's

691
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 1>important in everyday life. And I want to believe people

692
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>are smart enough to understand where it fandom fits and

693
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>how a potential kid in the transfer portal may or

694
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 1>may not affect a season, or how you know, recruit

695
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>who has Utah on their top five may or may

696
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>not affect the longevity of the program. But I don't know, man,

697
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.159
<v Speaker 1>this is a reality check episode. If we really I mean,

698
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what we got to do.

699
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 3>For sure.

700
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.679
<v Speaker 1>We gotta get we got to get Spencer Hall on.

701
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>We got to get some sports psychologists on and we

702
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 1>really got to get into the nitty gritty well.

703
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And the other interesting dynamic is, just like other religious elements,

704
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the more you can convince people that what you are

705
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>selling them is paramount to their very existence, the quicker

706
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they're going to pull out their checkbook and say where

707
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 2>do I sign? And that's the lifeblood of college football programs.

708
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>The donors, your season ticket holders, people in your community

709
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that preach at the Oak Duke calm down. My dog

710
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>has a humping habit, which we're working on. If you

711
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>want to see my dog hump Chris on YouTube, go

712
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 2>ahead and sign on.

713
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to ten. Let's get to ten viewers.

714
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>But the more you can convince people that the altar

715
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.039
<v Speaker 2>with which they are worshiping is actually a real thing

716
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>that benefits their life, the more that they're going to donate,

717
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.079
<v Speaker 2>and the more money you have, and therefore the more

718
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you can keep up.

719
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:46.159
<v Speaker 1>And in a way, the present day model of college

720
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>athletics benefits universities at that level way more than it

721
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 1>ever has. Sure, Yeah, because you can go into these

722
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>meetings with boosters and folks that potentially can get out

723
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.599
<v Speaker 1>their checkbook and be like, you can make a difference, right,

724
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 1>you can help us land so on and so forth.

725
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 1>And if we get this guy, our fortunes are changed.

726
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Forever and you will be known as the person that

727
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>helped us do this. And therefore you will be a

728
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 2>member in the community where other community members look at

729
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>you as the shining bright north Star. Yeah, and that

730
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 2>that that creates an identity that people the crave. You

731
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>want to be the season ticket older, the booster that

732
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 2>wrote the check that had led Devin dan Pier to

733
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>sign here. Then suddenly you're a hero amongst your community

734
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>that is worshiping at the altar of Utah football. But

735
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>no other sport has this. Maybe European soccer, but no

736
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>other sport really has this feel where people would It

737
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>feels like they would dive for the team they cheer for.

738
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's yeah soccer for sure. Yeah, not just soccer worldwide.

739
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Good good segue Oka, Right, last few minutes we have

740
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 2>you here.

741
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 1>So wait did you get did you go to the game?

742
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, the vibes were high, So San die.

743
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about because they played at San Diego State Stadium.

744
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 3>San Diego State Stadium.

745
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>How it like did it look Okay?

746
00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 3>It did.

747
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 2>It looked better than I was expecting at San Diego.

748
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.119
<v Speaker 2>So it's gorgeous no matter what. But mountains in the

749
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 2>backdrop are beautiful. I don't know that that's sustainable long term,

750
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I guess according to what I was told.

751
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>The turf takes a lot of abuse and beating throughout

752
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the course of the year, but the conditions look great.

753
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 3>The crowd was pretty good.

754
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was a football stadium, they were kind

755
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>of scattered, but I would say all in there was

756
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 2>probably eighteen nineteen thousand people there through out the course

757
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 2>of the stadium. But the lads get all three Diego

758
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 2>with the brace your guy. We saw our big Willie

759
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Goles come on as a sub sat next to Johnny

760
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Russell for a little portion of the game.

761
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 3>My man's intense. He's got a great beard, but vibes

762
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 3>are good.

763
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Man.

764
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Three points on the road. Here we are with the lads, all.

765
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, here we go.

766
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, no, no, no, try you just got me.

767
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Is there anybody else on this roster that can level

768
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>up to the level that Diego Luna can level up to,

769
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Because if if Ursela is going.

770
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 3>Amaca was really good.

771
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I guess I should quantify it by saying, like,

772
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in the attacking third, is there anybody that's a problem, Well,

773
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>what about big Willy goals had had a pretty good chance.

774
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 1>He did put it. I think, I mean it's probably

775
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 1>a field goal, it's probably an extra point.

776
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.599
<v Speaker 3>He died it. Yeah, he got ensolved it or.

777
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can rely on those types of

778
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 1>performances every single week from my guy. Like there's one

779
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>guy in the world that you can do do that

780
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.199
<v Speaker 1>within his name's Lionel Messi, and even at thirty seven,

781
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 1>he's still doing it in this league. But other than that,

782
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 1>it's just not realistic. And who knows, maybe Agata's addition

783
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>changes things. I am fascinated to see what the what

784
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 1>the attack looks like when he's that number nine. But

785
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>our sales problem now is not in the attacking third,

786
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Like they're down like three or four center backs and

787
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 1>like that vera collision, dude, Yeah, like wow, like that

788
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 1>was some scary, like straight gone, like you could immediately

789
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>tell when the other team comes over and like freaks out.

790
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>That's when you, like I think of when I think

791
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>of Gordon Hayward's broken foot. Like, I don't think of

792
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 1>everybody else. I think of what Lebron did, You know

793
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.639
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Because like it when it resonates with

794
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the opponent on the level, that's like visceral. That's when

795
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know it's bad. I don't I don't know what

796
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>his availability will be that for this week because it

797
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>was so Yeah, I would assume that he should probably

798
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 1>be held out because he was knocked out cold. But

799
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Glad was hurt. Somebody Kobe Kobe Henry's been hurt for

800
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 1>like a month now. I guess Quinton was having some

801
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 1>cramping issues or something like. And now you have to

802
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 1>go to Vancouver, who plays tonight plays Miami tonight in

803
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the in the Conker caf Semis. So maybe you get

804
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>those guys tired on the you know, second leg of

805
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>their two game week in Vancouver. But you're still going

806
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to play the best team in the West, maybe the

807
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>best team in the conference, on the road in a

808
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>place where historically you haven't been very good.

809
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:08.920
<v Speaker 3>What's realistic to expect?

810
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Johnny Russell in his prime was really good

811
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 2>for SKCS thirty five. He's been without a club for

812
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>seven months. I was told by my guy, my guy

813
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Pobs that he was impressed with his initial conditioning. He's

814
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.079
<v Speaker 2>not as far behind as they thought. I don't know

815
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.519
<v Speaker 2>if he's available this Saturday, thirty five years old, right,

816
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 2>So what's reasonable to expect from from Johnny.

817
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Russell on the field or off the field?

818
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 3>Well both, if you like.

819
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 1>On the field, I would say that left footed gold

820
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>dangerous player late in games, probably shouldn't be starting because

821
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 1>you have younger wingers. I mean even a kid like

822
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Xavier Gozo who are in the start in San Diego, Like,

823
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>these are guys you need to bring along. Yeah, And

824
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I think you know the segue to why I ask

825
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>for off the field is like you need guys like

826
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Russell who've scored sixty goals in this league or

827
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever to kind of teach a lot of these young

828
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>guys the ropes and you know, give them advice on

829
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 1>how to handle things and how to go at certain

830
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 1>defenders on the field. Like I would guess that Johnny

831
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Russell could still stand over a free kick and hit

832
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:18.119
<v Speaker 1>it with his left foot and peg it pretty well.

833
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if he's going to be in

834
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 1>for a seventy minute work shift where he's busting his

835
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 1>ass up and down the line the way Pablo wants

836
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 1>his wingers to play well.

837
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>And your point, Diego is clearly head and shoulders above

838
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 2>everybody else and kind of has to make miracles happen

839
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 2>every game if they're going to have a chance to compete.

840
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And the summer window will open, but by the time

841
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>it closes, there's just not a lot of time. Eight

842
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>or nine gait or nine games left, all right, One

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<v Speaker 2>more thing here. The headline on ESPN dot com is

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<v Speaker 2>Mammoth gaff question mark Utah Mama.

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<v Speaker 3>Name after leak.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a situation where the hockey club change

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<v Speaker 2>their social handles, but it was not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>for public consumption to Utah mammoth Uh. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>same operation that leaked the Jazz yellow jerseys too early

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<v Speaker 2>and then try to walk it back to say, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>Purple's back to this is embarrassing, like what's.

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<v Speaker 1>People just need to be on the same page. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm of the opinion that it should just be Utah

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey Club. I feel an imperpetuity forever and I will

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<v Speaker 1>I will drive this steak into everyone's heart. We are

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<v Speaker 1>a state known for fossils, but we're they're dinosaurs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, Like the entire Eastern Utah is known

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<v Speaker 1>for just a bleep ton of dinosaur fossils, mammoth, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing? Yeah, I will say, I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to have a perfect sinked out roll out

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of moving things over bing bong bing bong.

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<v Speaker 1>One who's weird enough to notice that stuff at like

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<v Speaker 1>eleven pm? Come on, guys, go to sleep. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I watch some you know, righteous Jempstones or something. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not great to me. The bigger misstep is

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<v Speaker 1>the name as opposed to the cand rollout.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree, but both of them are embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I guess maybe Purple is back.

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