Speaker 1: We are the music makers.
Speaker 2: And we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Speaker 1: Imagine what would it happen if we had and attracted
Speaker 1: the magic we had back when we couldn't fathom life.
Speaker 2: It is a.
Speaker 3: Fantasy, not with the vanity, not the way it was
Speaker 3: back then.
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Speaker 4: When it's on again with Sewn and Jonathan Jee. Welcome
Speaker 4: to Metimistics where you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 4: My name's Jonathan, I'm Sean and today is the wonder
Speaker 4: Wednesday Live Show and one of our very favorite guests
Speaker 4: that we've ever had the potential of even getting on
Speaker 4: this show, Santo's Bonacci.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man, Well, thanks, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it absolutely, dude.
Speaker 5: We've been waiting in anticipation to have you on. Man,
Speaker 5: just someone like you that's really been, you know, doing
Speaker 5: as much research as you have on a particular topic. Man,
Speaker 5: you're the man, so looking forward to this conversation.
Speaker 3: You are the man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'll tell you what, dude, there's I've been
Speaker 4: following your stuff for years now. I think my first
Speaker 4: ever time I can't even say when my first ever time.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking that maybe it was your appearance
Speaker 4: on Tinfoil Hat, but it was probably long even before that.
Speaker 4: I've just always been so interested in all the astro
Speaker 4: theology that you that you teach, and find it very
Speaker 4: fascinating and such such eye opening kind of information, you know,
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I just wanted to say thank you
Speaker 4: for doing all that deep research man, and I love
Speaker 4: the love following you on the journey.
Speaker 2: Thanks, guys, I really appreciate that. Yeah, I just do
Speaker 2: have to say that the viewers will probably be irritated
Speaker 2: at the fact that I'm going to be scratching all
Speaker 2: over because just half an hour ago the itch, which
Speaker 2: is what I call the itch, started, and it always
Speaker 2: does every time an important show comes along. That's why
Speaker 2: I don't take them anymore. That's why you guys have
Speaker 2: been trying for so long, and I've been saying no
Speaker 2: or postponing it because especially at night, it's nine o'clock here,
Speaker 2: that's when the eaching really really starts. So anyway, most
Speaker 2: of my viewers they know about the itch. If you
Speaker 2: go to my channel, mister astrotheology and punching the word
Speaker 2: the itch, you'll know what I've been going through for twenty.
Speaker 4: Years just out of curiosity. Have you ever done a
Speaker 4: or do you even believe in like a past life regression?
Speaker 4: That's something that something that I do, and a lot
Speaker 4: of times people find, you know, not necessarily cures to
Speaker 4: whatever ails them, but sometimes you know, just going into
Speaker 4: a past life you can discover maybe the root cause
Speaker 4: of some kind of ailment. Have you ever looked into
Speaker 4: past life regression for that?
Speaker 2: I've done them twice, and I thought they were both
Speaker 2: a joke. I mean, either the people were not good
Speaker 2: at it, or I didn't feel I was going into
Speaker 2: a past life. I felt like I was being led to, well,
Speaker 2: what's that ugly look? Opened that up? Probably that's better. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just didn't. I didn't. I didn't buy into it.
Speaker 2: Somehow the woman led me to say that I was
Speaker 2: a Japanese samurai, and then I was a neo Platonist
Speaker 2: philosopher many times and poisoned. You said, she got you
Speaker 2: to see that, so you felt, well, she was asking
Speaker 2: the questions I was. I believe you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: in a meditative state of mind where you regress, where
Speaker 2: you go back. I couldn't get into that. I can't
Speaker 2: be hypnotized. I can't be I can't be persuaded. I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm not. It's impossible to hypnotize me or it's impossible
Speaker 2: to do those things with me. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: But it works on other people, but it doesn't work
Speaker 2: on me. It just doesn't.
Speaker 4: I wonder if it's a trust huh. I wonder if
Speaker 4: it's a trust thing, Like do you have of like
Speaker 4: trust issues with people that you're not familiar with.
Speaker 2: Well, A lot of people believe that this itch is
Speaker 2: because of my control, something controlling that I have that
Speaker 2: I haven't let go of. My mats. Sus used to say,
Speaker 2: when you let go of whatever it is, you have
Speaker 2: to let go, the itching will leave you. And I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, you know, I mean, I meditate.
Speaker 2: I try and think back if there was any trauma.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't remember any trauma. I grew up happy.
Speaker 2: My parents had plenty of money, had a tobacco farm, properties,
Speaker 2: I always have whatever I wanted. I had plenty of friends,
Speaker 2: had a great life, but some people insist that I
Speaker 2: had some trauma that I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, man, That's that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, because I'm I'm somebody
Speaker 4: that I have my fair share of tics from time
Speaker 4: to time that I wish that I had a little
Speaker 4: bit more control of. But I think it's probably a
Speaker 4: little bit more of like a weird nervous habit. It's strange,
Speaker 4: and that's kind of what reminded me of, you know,
Speaker 4: what you were saying earlier. You were like, you were
Speaker 4: fine up until like a half an hour before the show,
Speaker 4: and then maybe the nerves kick in, or you know,
Speaker 4: just coming up in front of a screen. It does
Speaker 4: something to it interesting how that stuff works.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I've never ever, I've never ever taken a
Speaker 2: show when the itching has just started. I've had to
Speaker 2: cancel thousands, I don't know how many. It's very disappointing,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to do it this time. I don't
Speaker 2: care because the itching has stopped me from many many
Speaker 2: projects and many many things that I've wanted to do.
Speaker 2: And I'm learning now just to bet grim grit my
Speaker 2: teeth and uh, grin and Barrett.
Speaker 4: You know, just hey, dude, that's that's all you can do.
Speaker 2: You know, Yes, it's gonna look, it's gonna look ridiculous,
Speaker 2: but uh, you.
Speaker 3: Don't even worry about that. Man, don't even worry about that.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, uh, you know, coming on anyways, even
Speaker 5: with with everything going on.
Speaker 3: Man, I really appreciate you though for sure.
Speaker 2: Well I apologize in advance to you guys, and.
Speaker 3: That's not necessary.
Speaker 4: Well, let's uh, let's do a little something to maybe
Speaker 4: try and take your mind off of it a little bit.
Speaker 4: I there, we've talked a little bit about a little bit.
Speaker 4: We've talked a little bit about astro theology in the past,
Speaker 4: but I know that there's so much that goes into it,
Speaker 4: and and to be honest, we have a hard time
Speaker 4: even wrapping our our brain and our minds around astrology
Speaker 4: in general and forget tying all of the ancient myths
Speaker 4: to them. So I do always find it very fascinating.
Speaker 4: But as far as I'm aware, you are the man
Speaker 4: to go to for these kinds of things. So just
Speaker 4: out of curiosity, what kind of brought you into this?
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I mean, it's my bent I've
Speaker 2: been interested in literature and theology and the gods and
Speaker 2: the myths and disasters from the past and where did
Speaker 2: we come from and where are we going? And I
Speaker 2: just I've just been on that path really language, music,
Speaker 2: history and theology. My parents baptized me as a Catholic
Speaker 2: in Victoria, Australia when I was a little boy, and
Speaker 2: then I think around about the age of three, We've
Speaker 2: got a knock from the Jehovah's witnesses, and my mother converted,
Speaker 2: and then my father and then a couple of other relatives,
Speaker 2: and I grew up as a little boys to Jehovah's
Speaker 2: witness and then when the teen in the seventies, I
Speaker 2: was a teenager born in sixty three. So I went
Speaker 2: to school with the disco high heel shoes and hippie
Speaker 2: I did all the I left the witnesses and did
Speaker 2: all the worldly things. You know. I had muscle cars,
Speaker 2: big golliwog hairdoo. As I said, I used to wear
Speaker 2: the big six inch disco shoes to school. I don't
Speaker 2: know how they allowed it. I was going to a
Speaker 2: college and everyone was wearing the high heel shoes so
Speaker 2: you could wear your uniform, but you could also have
Speaker 2: your long hair and your high heel shoes. So I
Speaker 2: went through that stage. And anyway, all my teen years
Speaker 2: I was in the world, and by the time I
Speaker 2: got to nineteen, I realized that the world had nothing
Speaker 2: to offer. The fast cars, the girls and all of
Speaker 2: that stuff. And I did all that. I tried it,
Speaker 2: you know, and I was just no, it's not for me.
Speaker 2: So I made up my mind in my heart to
Speaker 2: turn my ways back to God. And I went back
Speaker 2: to the Joba's witnesses, which was in a way an
Speaker 2: annoying mistake. But the good thing about it was that
Speaker 2: I learned the Bible inside out and backwards, and I
Speaker 2: just loved the Bible. I still do. And the good
Speaker 2: thing about it was that, unlike all most Jehovah's witnesses,
Speaker 2: I continued. I continued reading books that I wasn't supposed
Speaker 2: to in secret. So since I left school at fourteen
Speaker 2: and a half, I've had my nose in books.
Speaker 4: We've really been trying to dip our nose into a
Speaker 4: lot of books here lately to find that there's definitely
Speaker 4: a lot of knowledge out there. And I think that
Speaker 4: it's it's just overall better for your well being to
Speaker 4: be nose in a book rather than those in your phone,
Speaker 4: scrolling on Facebook or any of these other things that
Speaker 4: are basically just mind melting things and nobody's really learning
Speaker 4: a whole lot. You might get a little curious about
Speaker 4: a thing and then you move on as if you know,
Speaker 4: nothing just happens. So you know, it doesn't require any patience,
Speaker 4: it doesn't require any work, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: very interesting about how the nature of the world. And
Speaker 4: so we're trying to bring all of that back. You know,
Speaker 4: we're trying to to bring back the excitement about diving
Speaker 4: into books and the excitement about the esotericism of the
Speaker 4: esoteric way of understanding the world. And you know, that's
Speaker 4: just what excites us. And yeah, to have you on here, man,
Speaker 4: that's like cream of the crop, so awesome, love it you.
Speaker 4: You definitely inspired us to look into a lot of this.
Speaker 4: So I just want to say thank you for that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so you started out man, going to Jehovah's witness,
Speaker 4: Well I started out. You started our Catholic then you
Speaker 4: went to Jehovah, became of the world, wanted to turn
Speaker 4: away from the material world went back to Jehovah's witness,
Speaker 4: as I'm sure a lot of people do. You know,
Speaker 4: whenever they feel like they're on a journey, they're going
Speaker 4: to go back to the righteous spiritual journey that they're
Speaker 4: familiar with. And what was it about the Jehovah's witness
Speaker 4: the second time that made you kind of start looking
Speaker 4: at it in a different kind of way.
Speaker 2: Well, I love the fact that they were always reading
Speaker 2: the Bible, quoting the Bible, and I guess trying their
Speaker 2: best to interpret it and things like that. I was
Speaker 2: fascinated by that. I grew up bilingual. My parents were
Speaker 2: both collaborating from south to south of Italy. So my
Speaker 2: father he never learned English, so he would only speak
Speaker 2: color Colubrian to me. So I grew up with English
Speaker 2: and Collabrian. So this is the interesting thing, right, So
Speaker 2: here's an Italian, second generation Italian born in Australia, whereas
Speaker 2: all my other relatives went to Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, California, Toronto, Virginia.
Speaker 2: I've got relatives all over the States, and I'm in
Speaker 2: Australia and I'm thinking, gee, man, I would have much
Speaker 2: rather been in Memphis on the Mississippi or New Orleans
Speaker 2: or California, where all my cousins are. So I was
Speaker 2: kind of upset at that, but now in hindsight, I
Speaker 2: appreciate it because being Italian, all my relatives were Catholic.
Speaker 2: I was witness when I went to school in the sixties.
Speaker 2: We were still under the Imperial you know mile inches
Speaker 2: and yards, which are still use. I still talk in
Speaker 2: you know, six foot whatever. And then we converted to
Speaker 2: metric in the early seventies and our money, our currency
Speaker 2: was pounds, the pound, and then we flipped over I
Speaker 2: think it was a year after that we went to
Speaker 2: the American dollar. So I got I got the best
Speaker 2: of every word, every all the world's to eventually get
Speaker 2: syncretism because none of my cousins who went to Catholic
Speaker 2: church knew the Bible on you, on your well as
Speaker 2: a young boy and all my life. So I got
Speaker 2: the Bible right. I got two languages from birth, so
Speaker 2: an Italian Protestant and with two languages, so that that
Speaker 2: really helped, because languages is very, very important in Astro theology.
Speaker 2: The secret of understanding the world is words. That's what
Speaker 2: that's it. It's words. Words create worlds. Nothing else. Now,
Speaker 2: Pythagoras will say numbers, and the kabalistic Jews will say letters.
Speaker 2: God made the world with letters, but it's words.
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, to be honest, I kind of I agree
Speaker 4: with that as well. You know, we've had a lot
Speaker 4: of shows with magicians and witches and they'll tell you
Speaker 4: the same exact thing. You know, it's all about induction
Speaker 4: and evocation and all that stuff. Spell work is always
Speaker 4: through words, and you know, your words are are aligned
Speaker 4: with your intentions, and uh, they're just they're interesting little
Speaker 4: vehicles for your intentions, you know. And so it does
Speaker 4: make sense that even you know, even the world, you know,
Speaker 4: it says that that God created with with his word, right,
Speaker 4: So it would it would literally make sense that, you know,
Speaker 4: words shape our reality, probably in far more ways than
Speaker 4: we can even imagine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, words are atoms. All is a tomb. There are
Speaker 2: only atoms, but not the atoms that you learned about
Speaker 2: at school. It's torus field atoms. Everything you say, everything
Speaker 2: that exists, every thought, form, every wife, every wife, whether
Speaker 2: it's sound, light, thought, or emotions, it's all it's all
Speaker 2: taurus fields, which are atoms. That's why the Egypsum said
Speaker 2: all is a tum. Now we have a word called etomology,
Speaker 2: which is essentially atomology. So through that we learn that
Speaker 2: there is only one language, the language of atoms. If
Speaker 2: all is a tomb, then all languages must be a tom.
Speaker 2: If all is a tom, then every human, the sun,
Speaker 2: the moon, the fireplace, over there, my guitars, it's all
Speaker 2: a tongue, which means it's all atomic, electromagnetic, Everything is electromagnetic.
Speaker 4: Does it tie into being the first as well? Whenever
Speaker 4: you say a tom, like are you are you kind
Speaker 4: of grouping in like the whole atom and eve kind
Speaker 4: of creation? Like atom was the first one or first
Speaker 4: human created? Or are we like just symbolically, does a
Speaker 4: tom kind of mean the first or the beginning?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah uh. In Gematria, a t u m is
Speaker 2: one two three four equals ten equals one Wow, and
Speaker 2: Adam a d A m one four, one four equals
Speaker 2: ten equals one Oh Eden, the garden of Eden. Eden
Speaker 2: equals one. Aiden equals one. Dna equals one, which is
Speaker 2: an anagram of Dan, which is Adan in Spanish Adam,
Speaker 2: So a tom is Adam see Adam is on and
Speaker 2: eve even is two. The universe despired by numbers.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, so many different ways to interpret all this
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. I just love it because you have
Speaker 4: to group in numerology with it too. You have to
Speaker 4: group in gomatria. You know. These are the These are
Speaker 4: the people that essentially, you know, kinda they were the
Speaker 4: literate ones, the ones that were putting putting pen to
Speaker 4: pad and had the basic understanding and which eventually came
Speaker 4: to teach the masses.
Speaker 5: You know, so there would have to be creating their
Speaker 5: own reality, dude, like whatever reality.
Speaker 3: They want you to know, because they have the ability.
Speaker 4: To write and what we say, you know. And Sean
Speaker 4: I think brings it up a lot too. It's that
Speaker 4: like a lot of people that are involved into just
Speaker 4: not nothing against anybody who's religious or anything like that,
Speaker 4: but you can kind of see how each religion is
Speaker 4: somewhat of a spell, you know, that that that religion
Speaker 4: is shaping their outer world, how they view the world,
Speaker 4: you know. And yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: I like what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's all spells. That doesn't mean that it's
Speaker 2: evil or good. Once you go beyond that, then you
Speaker 2: won't be like these TikTok one minute guys who will say, oh,
Speaker 2: English is the language of witchcraft. It's evil. And I mean,
Speaker 2: these people make you laugh and fall off my seat,
Speaker 2: and then just delete them and unsubscribe and never watch
Speaker 2: them again. But you know there will always be fools.
Speaker 2: So English is not an evil language. What is it
Speaker 2: evil is legal ease, which is a register of English,
Speaker 2: which is what we've all been taught at school. That's
Speaker 2: the evil of English. English as a language is both
Speaker 2: good and evil. But the register of English, called Legalese
Speaker 2: is what we get taught at school. We don't get
Speaker 2: taught English. We do not learn English at school. We
Speaker 2: get taught Legalese. For instance, if I say do you understand,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean do you comprehend in a judge's court
Speaker 2: room because he's speaking Legalese. There's no official language in America.
Speaker 2: Did you know that in America there is no official language.
Speaker 2: You don't have one.
Speaker 4: I just assumed it was English, but I guess not.
Speaker 2: No, it's the customary language of the USA. It's not
Speaker 2: the official language because it's never had one. In fact,
Speaker 2: one hundred years ago they were voting on it and
Speaker 2: was going to be German because the US is sixty
Speaker 2: percent German.
Speaker 4: Ah, what a different world that would have been.
Speaker 2: Just look it up. Look look up the ethnic you'll
Speaker 2: see maps of this, the ethnic groups or concentration of
Speaker 2: ethnicity in the US of A. And you'll see sixty
Speaker 2: percent Germany since time immemorial or whenever. I don't know,
Speaker 2: because I don't trust history, but neither No, you can't
Speaker 2: trust history. But there are maps that will show you
Speaker 2: that the demographic of everything, especially all the North, all
Speaker 2: of it, all of it from Oregon, all the way
Speaker 2: to Pennsylvania, except for the Deep South, which was all blacks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all blacks. And then you'll see it. If you look
Speaker 2: for the maps, you'll see it's a German country. And
Speaker 2: in fact, the official language was going to be German,
Speaker 2: but because they couldn't decide, they left it as just
Speaker 2: a customary lange.
Speaker 4: Which, oh wow, I'm just seeing. One of our listeners,
Speaker 4: electro Nick shout Out, posted this as of March first, So, oh,
Speaker 4: March first of last year. It says a presidential action
Speaker 4: of designating English as the official language of the United States.
Speaker 4: That's crazy that it even took that long. That's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna add that that. I remember that
Speaker 2: just recently, just a couple of years ago. They did
Speaker 2: that because well, it's it's strange.
Speaker 3: I never knew that at all. Yeah, Like I never
Speaker 3: even sat there to think about that and go, you.
Speaker 2: Know language, you know, most people don't know. The inquisition
Speaker 2: never went away.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, look you you were talking about, you know,
Speaker 4: languages in and it kind of made me think here
Speaker 4: and I want to get your opinion on this. So
Speaker 4: we have. I've spoken to a lot of people who
Speaker 4: believe that you can't read something in English and have
Speaker 4: the same effect as if you were stating it in Latin,
Speaker 4: or in Hebrew or in Greek or anything like that,
Speaker 4: pertaining to maybe even psalms from the Bible or you know,
Speaker 4: old Satanic incantations or anything like that. Do you believe
Speaker 4: that the language depends highly upon the effect of whatever
Speaker 4: you're trying to say whenever it's like magically involved, I
Speaker 4: guess yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, there's a whole mood, there's a whole attitude
Speaker 2: toward every language. You see. This is why Italian has
Speaker 2: its romance, this is why French has its prettiness, this
Speaker 2: is why German has its harshness, this is why Russian
Speaker 2: has its complexities and whatnot. So yeah, but they're all
Speaker 2: one language. It's just that they're all dyslexic versions of atomology.
Speaker 2: That's our language, our only one language that exists. And
Speaker 2: I've proven proven that with hundreds and hundreds of presentations
Speaker 2: in all languages, not just English, but they all go
Speaker 2: back to one language. And the root word of all
Speaker 2: words is a tum.
Speaker 3: It all started from there.
Speaker 2: Wow, everything everything comes from a tum. See tum is
Speaker 2: the sound of the ether turning into plasma. Because everything's plasma.
Speaker 2: We don't see the ether. But the ether is white
Speaker 2: and black light the white and black in and yang.
Speaker 2: When black is dielectricity, white is magnetism, right, black is rest,
Speaker 2: white is motion. When rest and motion start doing this,
Speaker 2: then white light expands and splits like through a prism,
Speaker 2: and it creates red shift, blue shift, the rainbow.
Speaker 4: You just said like all the keywords of everything we've
Speaker 4: talked about over the last two months.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's snow white and the seven dwarves.
Speaker 4: Oh, can you explain that a little bit more?
Speaker 2: Well, white light going into a prism and outside the
Speaker 2: other end come the seven dwarves.
Speaker 3: Oh, mind set.
Speaker 2: The seven colors of the rainbow. Your seven chakras, violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange,
Speaker 2: and red at the bottom. Everything is nursery rhymes. All
Speaker 2: the Gospels, all the fairy tales, every single book. Everything
Speaker 2: goes back to electromagnetic waves.
Speaker 5: Everything's just very retelling, a retelling reshaped, you know, but
Speaker 5: the same foundation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let me finish off with the Inquisition. In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, they change their name to the Dickastry
Speaker 2: of the Doctrine of the Faith. So as people don't
Speaker 2: know that just two years ago or whatever, English was
Speaker 2: made the official language of the USA. So do the
Speaker 2: masses not know that the Inquisition has never gone away
Speaker 2: before that. It changed its name in nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 2: before that in nineteen oh eight, and before that. Just
Speaker 2: go to Wikipedia, check it out. Put the word Inquisition
Speaker 2: in and you'll see all about it. It's never gone away.
Speaker 2: We are under the Inquisition. What is the rest now
Speaker 2: are all about? That's what the plagues are all about,
Speaker 2: That's what all these wars are all about. That's why
Speaker 2: the economy is It's the Inquisition.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So that's literally the reason why you know, our official
Speaker 4: language of the United States just got changed. So what
Speaker 4: does that Does that mean that all of these things
Speaker 4: that you kind of just mentioned as far as inquisitory
Speaker 4: things aren't able to happen now that the language is
Speaker 4: the official language of the United States have switched over
Speaker 4: to English.
Speaker 2: No, it's not going to change much. It's not because see,
Speaker 2: when you go to court, you don't realize that you're
Speaker 2: not No one ever says to the judge, what is
Speaker 2: the official language that you are speaking, because once you
Speaker 2: ask that question, you can walk out of the courtroom. Really,
Speaker 2: because they know they're not speaking English. They are masters, dark,
Speaker 2: dark masters of the science of inverting English into legal ease.
Speaker 2: Everything's legal and everything. So you call yourself a person, right, Well,
Speaker 2: person comes from a parson, and a parson belongs to
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: All these Protestants in their five oh one c three churches,
Speaker 2: Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Baptists, they're all Catholic. Everyone. Everyone in
Speaker 2: the world who has a birth certificate is Catholic. No
Speaker 2: use saying that you're a Protestant or you're a Buddhist.
Speaker 2: If you have a birth certificate, you are a person,
Speaker 2: a parson, which is a servant of the Vatican and
Speaker 2: your Catholic. You cannot escape this. Everyone is Catholic. It's
Speaker 2: a Catholic world.
Speaker 4: Oh it seems like a curse, doesn't it, you know?
Speaker 4: And and that's that's It's pretty interesting too, because I've
Speaker 4: gone over a little bit of this as well in
Speaker 4: the in the past few years. As far as the
Speaker 4: terminology within Black's Law Dictionary is, is that kind of
Speaker 4: what you're referring to?
Speaker 2: It's witchcrawd Black, Black's Law Black. Why wouldn't have to
Speaker 2: be black? Why can't I just have you know, it's
Speaker 2: just and why did I have to revise it every
Speaker 2: every year? There's a different addition, right man.
Speaker 5: It's all these illusions that I thought I was bringing
Speaker 5: down and I thought I started to really see things
Speaker 5: for what they were. And there's just another one that
Speaker 5: I'm like, Oh, I'm a part of this thing that
Speaker 5: I had no idea was a part of.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Well, now what happens if you're born in the wild
Speaker 4: and you grow up like Tarzan and you're raised by
Speaker 4: you know, monkeys and wolves and everything. Obviously you're not
Speaker 4: gonna have a birth certificate, so then you wouldn't be
Speaker 4: under the Catholic law.
Speaker 3: Then right, that.
Speaker 2: Can't touch you. Let's say, for instance, they're going to
Speaker 2: a village and kidnap everyone. The first thing they'll do
Speaker 2: is get their papers. If they've got papers, then they
Speaker 2: belong to the Catholic Church, and they can kill them.
Speaker 2: They can do whatever they want. If a child does
Speaker 2: not have papers, they have to leave that child. They
Speaker 2: can't take it because it's not their property. See. And
Speaker 2: another thing is all these people who read their King
Speaker 2: James version and everything. They've got this book that's got
Speaker 2: sixty six books in it that's Catholic. There's no Protestant Bible.
Speaker 2: It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as a
Speaker 2: Protestant Bible. That's a whole crock of shit. That book
Speaker 2: goes back to Constantine and his bishop Ucbus and all
Speaker 2: these other bishops at the Council of Nicia three twenty
Speaker 2: five CE, where two three hundred Gospels and holy books
Speaker 2: were said to be not fit, but they chose sixty six.
Speaker 2: So you've got these Protestants. They go to church and
Speaker 2: they hate the Catholic Church and condemn it and told
Speaker 2: them that they're going to help. And yet they are
Speaker 2: Catholic because they hold a birth certificate can't escape it.
Speaker 2: And they're reading a Catholic book that is not a
Speaker 2: Protestant book. It's not a Christian book.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it can't be because.
Speaker 2: The canonized book. So they're all Catholics. Everyone's Catholic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody's including the you know, the the Gnostic Gospels
Speaker 4: of anything inside of their Bible or anything like that.
Speaker 4: They're just sticking with what the what the original councils
Speaker 4: tried to do back in the three hundreds and narrowing
Speaker 4: it down and trying to make a vision of what
Speaker 4: it all actually means.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy, man.
Speaker 4: We've we've done a lot of deep dives into the Bible,
Speaker 4: especially going in to like Paul, and a lot of
Speaker 4: a lot of that. I've heard people say that Paul
Speaker 4: never even actually existed, that that was just like, I
Speaker 4: don't know, the church kind of building. A guy, what
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: None of them existed? There is no past, There is
Speaker 2: no past, there's no future. There's only the ever present. Now.
Speaker 2: Everything you read about in the Bible, that's all archetypes
Speaker 2: and all parts of you and your biology. Jesus is
Speaker 2: in you, Buddha is in you, Krishna is in you.
Speaker 2: If you go looking back in the past and finding
Speaker 2: these guys, you will not find them. You won't find
Speaker 2: them in the future. You won't find them outside of you,
Speaker 2: because nothing is outside of you. Nothing is outside of you.
Speaker 2: It's all in your mind. The thing is that your
Speaker 2: mind has been limited so much and indoctrinated so much
Speaker 2: that it's almost inconceivable that everything is the sun and
Speaker 2: the moon and the earth, it's all in you. It's
Speaker 2: all in your mind.
Speaker 3: Speaking of a language, dude.
Speaker 2: So it's no use arguing whether Jesus was black or
Speaker 2: he had blue eyes, or whether he was a Jew
Speaker 2: or whatever is. There's there's no argument. It's dead. History
Speaker 2: is dead. It's it's not a thing.
Speaker 4: So with it being that, if something is in the
Speaker 4: past but the past doesn't exist, does that mean that
Speaker 4: it never happened like according to the present moment, Does
Speaker 4: that mean that it never happened or does it just
Speaker 4: exist as a memory of all his mind?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's it's happened, but it's happening or happened now.
Speaker 2: Everything is in the now. It's hard to it's very
Speaker 2: hard to do this. It's very hard to bring everything
Speaker 2: into the now. You know, and it's very, very hard
Speaker 2: to bring all things into one. We always say it,
Speaker 2: all things are one, all things come from the one source.
Speaker 2: We always say it. We're saying it, but we don't
Speaker 2: understand how to work all that out. But once you do,
Speaker 2: once you come to this conclusion and you understand that history,
Speaker 2: the future, gospels, gods and legends and everything, and that
Speaker 2: it's all in you. You are the universe. You are
Speaker 2: the universe, You are everything. Your power is unlimited, unlimited.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't agree.
Speaker 3: It's all in you.
Speaker 5: And people are still trying to choose the story that
Speaker 5: gives them fear, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like good and will always be killing each other
Speaker 2: because my Jesus is black, yours is white with blue eyes.
Speaker 2: And Mary his mother was not a virgin and she
Speaker 2: was black or whatever. You know, there's people out there
Speaker 2: arguing they've got channels devoted on Jesus was black and
Speaker 2: all the white man came along and made him white
Speaker 2: and for a special reason to subdue the black people.
Speaker 2: That's all the crocod shit. Because the black Jesus represents
Speaker 2: the source, Jesus the resting light, because Christ means rest.
Speaker 2: That's what it means to rest, so and Mary or
Speaker 2: Magdalene magnetism that means the opposite, to move. So it's
Speaker 2: not masculine energy that moves, it's feminine energy. Masculine energy
Speaker 2: goes to rest. It's feminine energy that makes.
Speaker 4: Movement, which makes sense if you look at lions, you know,
Speaker 4: the males are the lazy ones, you know, like you're.
Speaker 3: Just trying to rest.
Speaker 5: Dude, it's my wife that's telling me, Hey, you need
Speaker 5: to go and take care of that garage, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, a little.
Speaker 4: Overdue, go for a jog once in a while. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's uh man, it's interesting how all that works out
Speaker 4: like that. You know, we've just been so obsessed with
Speaker 4: trying to get to the bottom of it, and just
Speaker 4: out of curiosity have and I don't know if this
Speaker 4: is too personal, but have you experienced any psychedelics that
Speaker 4: kind of led you to this m.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've taken most of the psychedelics you can mention,
Speaker 2: you know, but for sure, and I still do, but
Speaker 2: very moderately and occasionally. But my friend is cannabis. I
Speaker 2: don't smoke it because I don't like smoking green stuff.
Speaker 2: This is just pure mapacha Peruvian tobacco. So and I
Speaker 2: do that for the nicotine.
Speaker 4: Which is really good for you.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I take drops broad spectrum drops and every
Speaker 2: time I do, the syncretisms just pouring. So for the
Speaker 2: last twenty years, with all the syncretism I've done, I
Speaker 2: primarily have to thank the enthugen called cannabis. That's my
Speaker 2: best friend.
Speaker 4: I had never known that it was grouped in the
Speaker 4: Anthea gens, but it does make sense. I've had some experiences.
Speaker 4: You smoke a little bit too much.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 4: Oh you are going to another land.
Speaker 3: You know we have.
Speaker 5: We used to be good friends, you know, me and cannabis,
Speaker 5: but you know we've grown apart. Just as of late,
Speaker 5: I feel like it just gives me too much damn
Speaker 5: anxiety anymore. Like, to be honest, it's like too much anymore,
Speaker 5: Like what something is in there?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Strains don't touch strains. Here in Mexico, I get the ancient, ancient,
Speaker 2: ancient cannabis, and it doesn't make you. It doesn't make
Speaker 2: you paranoid or stressed. It makes you beautiful.
Speaker 5: It's that's why it was illegal. The stuff they give us.
Speaker 5: Now they're like, oh yeah, go ahead and smoke this.
Speaker 3: This is legal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is smoke. This anxiety and a joint.
Speaker 3: No ship. I feel like I'm sitting next to myself.
Speaker 4: And which one is me? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know anymore, dude, I need help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but see the the other reason why it
Speaker 2: does that, I'm sure number one is straines they have.
Speaker 2: They've made these strains to cause depression, paranoia, anxiety, suicidal tendencies.
Speaker 2: Strains of cannabis is probably the worst enemy of the
Speaker 2: ascension consciousness process to humanity. Never ever, ever just smoke
Speaker 2: any weed.
Speaker 3: I thought I was just getting super weak or something.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I used to just do this all day long,
Speaker 5: and now all of a sudden, I'm just like thinking
Speaker 5: about the worst shit, and like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 5: used to this.
Speaker 2: Well. The second thing is that cannabis like mushrooms. I do.
Speaker 2: I do mushrooms as well, DMT every now and then
Speaker 2: a little bit of LSD. I know it's it's synthetic
Speaker 2: and it's not unnatural, but it's it's very very special
Speaker 2: for me. It's very special because it's a really really
Speaker 2: good and and other things. But what cannabis will do.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: First of all, what's causing paranoid and all these troubles
Speaker 2: is the strains. But if that should happen when you
Speaker 2: take pure cannabis, well then that's good. You have to
Speaker 2: work through it. That's your shadow work. It helps you
Speaker 2: do your shadow work. If you're getting good cannabis and
Speaker 2: you're taking it and you're getting paranoid in stress and
Speaker 2: it's doing all this shit to you, ride it. Ride
Speaker 2: that storm because at the end you'll get a reward.
Speaker 2: The reward I got from cannabis is syncretism, and I
Speaker 2: play the guitar ten times better than when I'm straight.
Speaker 3: Dude, I used to feel like I could draw way better.
Speaker 2: So I used to be a busker right street performer
Speaker 2: now and I used to sell my CDs. So if
Speaker 2: I would play straight, i'd probably sell ten percent of
Speaker 2: when I was stoned. So if I'm having a half
Speaker 2: hour set and I'm not selling, I'd go to my car,
Speaker 2: smoke some weight, some good weight, come back, the passion
Speaker 2: comes out, and I sell one hundred ceed days, go home.
Speaker 4: It puts you back in the flow. It feels like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember it. I don't know. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 4: start smoking until I was probably seventeen regularly, and that
Speaker 4: was two thousand and seven. And even that weed back
Speaker 4: then was like, you know, you had to pay so
Speaker 4: much extra for the more potent stuff. I always wanted
Speaker 4: the less potent stuff. I always called it Mexican dirt
Speaker 4: weed because I was like, dude, I don't care where
Speaker 4: you get it. I wanted to be I wanted to
Speaker 4: be brown. I want there to be stems. I want seeds.
Speaker 4: I don't care if it if it pops on my face,
Speaker 4: I don't even care. That's because anything stronger than that
Speaker 4: it gets me paranoid, it gets me sleepy, hungry. I
Speaker 4: don't want to do anything into couch. It don't matter indicasativa.
Speaker 4: I'm into couch either way. So yeah, it's it's unfortunate
Speaker 4: what they've done to that. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of the dispensaries they probably think that, like, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 4: the people love these these higher strands and everything. But man,
Speaker 4: it's so hard to find any of just the regular
Speaker 4: weed anymore. It's it's damn near impossible.
Speaker 2: I think the old struggle in the US, you've you've
Speaker 2: got to get someone from Mexico to send you some.
Speaker 2: But I remember in the seventies, whenever we smoke weed,
Speaker 2: we would just laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.
Speaker 2: And then that all stopped in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 2: then in anxiety and and people thought, oh, yes, because
Speaker 2: marijuana does that. No. No, even the seventies, when it
Speaker 2: was pure, it would make you laugh and happy, and
Speaker 2: it was just it was beautiful. It was just so blissful.
Speaker 2: In the seventies, I remember, it's so And now the
Speaker 2: stuff that I'm getting in Mexico also makes me laugh
Speaker 2: and happy and blissful.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna have to come smoke with you sometimes, man,
Speaker 4: because I miss those days.
Speaker 2: Oh, I won't be smoking. I've never smoked weed. I
Speaker 2: don't like smoking anything it's green, it's got to be brown,
Speaker 2: it's got to be I grew up on a tobacco farm,
Speaker 2: so I've always been I love to smell of tobacco.
Speaker 2: I've always been tobacco, a tobacco person. See what I do.
Speaker 2: I'll only smoke one or two of these a day.
Speaker 2: I don't just sit there at the smoke. No way
Speaker 2: I'm going to do that to my lungs. But and
Speaker 2: then when I don't feel like smoking. I just chew it.
Speaker 2: The best thing you can do, guys, is get yourself
Speaker 2: some pure mapacho Peruvian tobacco and grab belief in the
Speaker 2: morning and just sit it under your tongue for half
Speaker 2: an hour. You've got you'll You'll never get a flute.
Speaker 2: I haven't had a flu for six years. I don't
Speaker 2: get colds.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't have anything at all at all.
Speaker 2: In fact, today my chiropractice said that my joints and
Speaker 2: my ligaments are of an adolescent. She said, you, I'm
Speaker 2: sixty three. I'll be sixty three in a couple of months, right,
Speaker 2: So she said to me, she said, I can't believe
Speaker 2: I've never seen a person like you that moves so
Speaker 2: nimbly on my table. Turn around and I'm you know,
Speaker 2: like and your joints right. No arthritis, none of that.
Speaker 2: No diabetes, No headaches, I've never I've only had one
Speaker 2: headache all my life. Yes, I've got this hitch, but
Speaker 2: I can probably explain that away. When I was a teenager,
Speaker 2: I went to the river for a swim. It's just
Speaker 2: half a mile from my house, and on the way back,
Speaker 2: the dust cropper had already sprayed DDT over the tobacco,
Speaker 2: and it was dark. I had to get home, so
Speaker 2: I walked through it. By the time I got home,
Speaker 2: my body was full of white and red welts all
Speaker 2: over my body, lumps all over my body, and I
Speaker 2: was poisoned by DDT. And then later on I met
Speaker 2: natural paths who said, you've got lead poisoning, So it
Speaker 2: could be that I'm doing lots of protocols to get
Speaker 2: rid of it.
Speaker 4: Are there any of your organs that are affected with
Speaker 4: that as well?
Speaker 2: What it does is it takes my breath away, makes
Speaker 2: me breathless, makes my heart palpitate, and it makes my
Speaker 2: gut feel like I've just a pound of glass shots
Speaker 2: of glass. So those are the three things lungs, hot,
Speaker 2: and gut that it affects.
Speaker 4: My God, and you've tried a lot of different things
Speaker 4: trying to, you know, uh, figure it out and get
Speaker 4: rid of it and all these things not to get
Speaker 4: too weird here. Have you ever tried? Have you ever
Speaker 4: heard of the Gerson method, the Gershon Gerson method. It's
Speaker 4: basically it's it's an organic green coffee enema and it's uh,
Speaker 4: it's not just to like make you shit it's it's
Speaker 4: for like cleansing your liver and getting rid of all
Speaker 4: the the heavy metals and the toxins and everything out
Speaker 4: of there too. It's I've been I've been doing it
Speaker 4: here for I don't know, three or four months now,
Speaker 4: and I feel great, not only in the gut, but
Speaker 4: like my mind is a lot clearer as well with it,
Speaker 4: just by getting every day really okay, hey, all right, every.
Speaker 2: Day first thing in the morning. The reason being is
Speaker 2: that opens all the sphincters in your gi tract from
Speaker 2: the stomach to the descending column, all the sphincters. But
Speaker 2: a shut like that. You know, uranus is a sphincter, right,
Speaker 2: so when you pass wind, that sphincter opens. When you
Speaker 2: pass solids, it opens. So when you put coffee in
Speaker 2: your backside, you just need a little bit, just need
Speaker 2: a two hundred milli liters. What it does. You lie
Speaker 2: on your left side because you don't want it to
Speaker 2: go to the transverse and to the ascending column. You
Speaker 2: want to stay in the left, So you lie on
Speaker 2: your left so it stays at the very very very
Speaker 2: bottom because there is where the receptors or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: they they send the signal to all the sphincters to
Speaker 2: just open up, and all the buy and all the
Speaker 2: shit and all the poisons, all of them come out
Speaker 2: in your pieces. So there's a lot of things I
Speaker 2: do that keep me alive. But the isch just doesn't
Speaker 2: go away. It just won't go away. It'll leave me.
Speaker 2: It'll leave me for three months. Sometimes I won't have
Speaker 2: each for six months, but just turn up one night
Speaker 2: and then it'll torture me for a month, and then
Speaker 2: it'll go away and then it comes back. And this
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons why I don't take these
Speaker 2: shows on, because I don't know. It's sometimes the anxiety.
Speaker 2: I do get nervous when I do shows. I'm not
Speaker 2: immune to. I mean, I've done a lot of public
Speaker 2: speaking and performing with my music and everything like that,
Speaker 2: but I still get nervous.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't think that ever goes away. I
Speaker 4: think the people that say that it goes away or
Speaker 4: just bullshitting themselves, to be honest with you, because I've
Speaker 4: done i don't know, probably fourteen hundred shows in my
Speaker 4: life so far, and yeah, I still get a little
Speaker 4: butterflies in the stomach every time, especially when talking to
Speaker 4: somebody like you, like you're somebody. Dude. You are a
Speaker 4: legend to me. I've learned so much from you and
Speaker 4: always been so fascinated by your work and I just
Speaker 4: I love it, and especially all the astrotheology stuff. But
Speaker 4: I did want to ask you, so, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: you're also a Are you also a.
Speaker 3: Vegetarian as well? Uh?
Speaker 2: Vegan?
Speaker 4: Vegan vegan? And have you found that that has worked
Speaker 4: well for your body and your health?
Speaker 2: Well? I started about eighteen years ago, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: when I stopped eating made no. I was just a
Speaker 2: pescatarian because I never liked redding mate anyway. It was
Speaker 2: too heavy for me and I just didn't like it.
Speaker 2: I've never was never an egg person, or cheese or
Speaker 2: milk at school. At primary school, I used to give
Speaker 2: you a quarter milk every morning, so I'd go around
Speaker 2: the corner, spill it out, come back and and the
Speaker 2: teacher would be fooled because it just milk stinks like shit.
Speaker 2: So it was easy for me to lose it because
Speaker 2: I didn't like it anyway. But the thing that happened
Speaker 2: was it got rid of my chronic fatigue straight away.
Speaker 2: As soon as I became a vegan. I had energy.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of energy. I might be itching
Speaker 2: and it's torturing me, but I can still go out
Speaker 2: and jog and run and build and do everything, and
Speaker 2: I'll just I just have a And in fact, my
Speaker 2: beautiful chiropractor, God bless us, she is amazing, amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she said, the energy I sensed from you, I've never
Speaker 2: felt from any other human being. She said, you are
Speaker 2: this this something magic about your energy. And I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 2: what do you mean. I'll try to she and she yeah,
Speaker 2: she explained how she sensed my energy. And I know
Speaker 2: that anyway because all my grandparents and all my uncles
Speaker 2: and everyone has always said, you know, they're slow down.
Speaker 2: You're just like a ball of fire, and you just
Speaker 2: you just all that energy, you know, what's what's with you? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh, you take care of yourself, you know, and you
Speaker 4: have you have a drive, and you have that fire
Speaker 4: and the passion to to keep on understanding the nature
Speaker 4: of your reality. And the cool thing about it is
Speaker 4: is that we're never going to know everything, so we
Speaker 4: can literally study and learn about all this stuff until
Speaker 4: the day we die, you know, And that's that's what
Speaker 4: I love about it. It's a never ending rabbit hole.
Speaker 4: And so I imagine even you know, somebody like yourself who's
Speaker 4: been in this kind of this kind of work and
Speaker 4: this kind of you know, uh, teaching and schooling and
Speaker 4: stuff like that, like you probably are still learning something
Speaker 4: new just about every day, right, kind of shaping your
Speaker 4: own nature, of your own reality.
Speaker 2: Brother, Sometimes I don't even have the confidence to get
Speaker 2: on a show and talk about syncretism because I know
Speaker 2: that I know nothing.
Speaker 3: There you go, words of a wise man. Yes, sure, well,
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: I just I know even though I know this and
Speaker 2: I know there. I can play the guitar, I can
Speaker 2: speak certain languages and what have you. But to know
Speaker 2: is a big thing to know. Put it this way,
Speaker 2: I know nothing, but I can know everything, just like
Speaker 2: you and I, like you and all the listeners, we
Speaker 2: can know everything, and we do know everything. But it's
Speaker 2: in another field which we mostly cannot. We can't enter
Speaker 2: into that field because of all the damage that the
Speaker 2: system has done to us. But that's changing. The sun
Speaker 2: is changing its frequency. The Christ has returned. The Christ
Speaker 2: is the Sun, and that's why they're trying to block
Speaker 2: it so much, because what will happen is people will
Speaker 2: see that the sun is actually just a ball of consciousness.
Speaker 2: It is the conscious seat of the.
Speaker 4: Universe literally, physically, literally and physically. Yes, wow, it makes
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. You know, there used to be
Speaker 4: a lot of people worshiping the sun. Yeah, yeah, probably
Speaker 4: still a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it's it's obvious. It's a no brainer.
Speaker 2: Whether you're spaestic or you're you're super intelligent individual, you
Speaker 2: can't deny that life comes from the sun.
Speaker 4: And you know what I've done the sun gazing, you know,
Speaker 4: in the morning and in the evenings and everything. And
Speaker 4: I swear like you stare at that bad boy for
Speaker 4: thirty forty fifty seconds, it starts looking like a damn
Speaker 4: portal that doctor Strange is opening up, like there is
Speaker 4: something absolutely mystical about it. And it almost looks like
Speaker 4: like it's blinking, like shades of gray or shades of
Speaker 4: black or something too. Have you have you done a
Speaker 4: fair amount of sun gazing in your day as well?
Speaker 2: Every day?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: The trick is. The trick is to be able to
Speaker 2: see all the colors of the rainbow in the sun,
Speaker 2: especially violet. When you tune your eyes to get the
Speaker 2: violet only from the sun. That's a different experience altogether,
Speaker 2: the whole new level.
Speaker 4: You what's the technique for that? What's the secret sauce
Speaker 4: on that?
Speaker 2: Well, I can look at the sun at any time
Speaker 2: of the day, it doesn't matter how hot it is,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter where it is. But if you're
Speaker 2: going to start doing it, make sure it's very very
Speaker 2: low on the horizon. So the first half hour of rising,
Speaker 2: do ten seconds walk away, next day twenty seconds, next
Speaker 2: day thirty build up, build up, build up, and never
Speaker 2: ever ever stare at the Sun higher than say, thirty
Speaker 2: degrees off the horizon, whether it's rising or setting. Then
Speaker 2: once you get advanced, you can just look at it
Speaker 2: whenever you want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so the goal is to be able to
Speaker 4: see all the colors of the rainbow. So I guess
Speaker 4: that would make the sun the prism or Yeah.
Speaker 2: How you do that is you change the shape of
Speaker 2: your eyeball. Call it squinting, but you're looking at the
Speaker 2: sun right and you just sort of do this or
Speaker 2: whatever whatever it does, whatever your eye needs to do,
Speaker 2: but change it, turn around, do something with it, and
Speaker 2: you will the eyes will adjust to get the color
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's kind of like a Wayne's World kind of situation.
Speaker 4: Camera one camera two, camera one camera two. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try messing around with that because I used to.
Speaker 4: I used to do that quite a lot, actually, and
Speaker 4: I was doing it every day, and I got to
Speaker 4: where I was able to do it for minutes at
Speaker 4: a time, and the profound effect of calm and energy
Speaker 4: at the same time that I was given it was
Speaker 4: that's that's that was the effect that it had on me.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how much of that is
Speaker 4: just I don't know what it is, because it feels mental,
Speaker 4: but it also feels physical at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, physically, I get out in the sun every day
Speaker 2: in the morning naked and just meditate in silence, listen
Speaker 2: to the birds and the squirrels, and always bathe my
Speaker 2: body in the sun. I never wear shoes. I never
Speaker 2: ever wear shoes. In fact of the day, I was
Speaker 2: out there with the horses. There's a equine therapy thing
Speaker 2: just five minute walk from my house and I do
Speaker 2: a lot of work with them. Anyway, I was walking
Speaker 2: in the barefoot and there's all these handicapped people that
Speaker 2: I was one of the guys that were training the
Speaker 2: horses and leading the horses and leading the death blind
Speaker 2: and whatever people that were on the horses because it's
Speaker 2: equine therapy. And one of the girls who was doing
Speaker 2: the same work, young girls, she says, don't don't your
Speaker 2: feet burn on the sand. It's roasting hot. And I said, no,
Speaker 2: I never thought of it. I just o my feet
Speaker 2: never get burned, no matter how hot it is. And
Speaker 2: then and then later the guys, the guys were laughing
Speaker 2: and I was saying, wow, man, you must cook your foot.
Speaker 2: Isn't it hot? And I said, no, it's hotter with shoes.
Speaker 2: If I had shoes on, they're not get hot feet.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. There's this football player that plays for the Patriots.
Speaker 4: His name is Mac Collins, and he's always known for
Speaker 4: walking around barefoot everywhere, and everybody always asks him like
Speaker 4: why are you always barefoot? Like he walks, he runs,
Speaker 4: he practices barefoot and everything, and he goes, I'm not
Speaker 4: wearing those foot prisons because that's kind of what it
Speaker 4: feels like whenever you have them on, you know. And
Speaker 4: then of course it takes away the natural grounding as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be grounded. You just have to.
Speaker 2: It's whether you whether you believe it or not, whether
Speaker 2: you practice it or not. It's it's your decision. You
Speaker 2: don't have to. But I do it every day religiously,
Speaker 2: and I just don't. I just don't have shoes. By
Speaker 2: going to town, I'll wear some flip clops or something
Speaker 2: like that. But apart from that, everywhere, stones, whatever, I
Speaker 2: just walk. I don't look at what I'm walking on.
Speaker 2: I just walk on it because my feet are very,
Speaker 2: very hard. They're like horses.
Speaker 3: Got to get like that. Put callouses on.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can see the calluses. Let's
Speaker 2: see how dirty. They're not even dirty, but yeah, you
Speaker 2: look at that, see those calluses.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's got shoes built in.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know any.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I I need to get like that too, because grounding
Speaker 4: is I feel like it's such a slept on thing,
Speaker 4: you know, because people will even take the the electrical
Speaker 4: gauges or whatever that to me to measure the electricity
Speaker 4: and to measure grounding and whatnot, and you can do
Speaker 4: it just with bed sheets. I actually have this grounding
Speaker 4: mat on my desk and it helps a little bit,
Speaker 4: I guess, But yeah, that grounding, super super important. I
Speaker 4: know that we don't have very much time with you
Speaker 4: and it you know, you're welcome to stay as long
Speaker 4: as you want, of course, but you know, I do
Speaker 4: kind of want to ask you, you know, just if
Speaker 4: this is one of my last questions to you, is
Speaker 4: there anything that that you would like to or that
Speaker 4: you could kind of bestow like wisely to anybody that
Speaker 4: is on this path of understanding oneself and understanding the
Speaker 4: nature of this reality. Is there kind of one building
Speaker 4: block or one thing that really helped you along your way?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dunp and unlearn everything you've been taught by fools,
Speaker 2: and that's everyone teachers, government, politicians, doctors, people with authority.
Speaker 2: I left school at fourten and a half. Why because
Speaker 2: the teachers were why more stupid than me? I was stupid? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I did stupid shit, but they were even more stupid.
Speaker 2: So why would I Why would I just sit there
Speaker 2: and listen to him? So I've got caught smoking for
Speaker 2: the third time. I did it deliberately, so because I
Speaker 2: knew that that was the rule if you get caught.
Speaker 2: So I got called up to the Vice President's office
Speaker 2: and he gave me two choices either you get expelled
Speaker 2: or you walk out. And I just went I mean
Speaker 2: I didn't show him how happy I was and overjoyed
Speaker 2: in my heart, but I just was like, I can
Speaker 2: just leave this concentration camp, education camp, you know, indoctrination camp. Whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and just at fod In and a half because in
Speaker 2: Australia the law was that you had to reach fifteen
Speaker 2: before you could leave school. So I was lucky I'll
Speaker 2: go to that six months before my jile sentence.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I think that that's maturity. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: totally agree with you. Unlearning is probably one of the
Speaker 4: hardest things that most of us have to do. You know,
Speaker 4: whether you were indoctrinated via a religion or a school
Speaker 4: system or a government, and all of us were in
Speaker 4: some form or fashion, and if you weren't a lot
Speaker 4: of people around you absolutely were. And it takes a
Speaker 4: lot to unlearn and break down. And it's something that
Speaker 4: has luckily Sean and I, you know, we didn't grow
Speaker 4: up in any religion. We didn't grow up in a
Speaker 4: church or anything, so it's a little bit easier, I think,
Speaker 4: to swallow some of these concepts without feeling and guilt.
Speaker 4: But that's man, some of the rage that comes out
Speaker 4: by by some people. You know, you start talking about
Speaker 4: this kind of stuff and you're literally satan, you're literally demonic,
Speaker 4: and you're playing with dark forces and you just don't know. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: poor you, You just don't know.
Speaker 3: You don't understand yet.
Speaker 4: You know, we've we've kind of just gone beyond. You know, look,
Speaker 4: if that's if that's what your thought processes are about me,
Speaker 4: then yeah I am demonic, Yeah I am satanic. I'll
Speaker 4: allow you to think whatever you want about me. You know,
Speaker 4: that's kind of the route we've taken.
Speaker 5: That's definitely the the understanding that we've come to is
Speaker 5: everything that's kind of a story. Like I feel like
Speaker 5: I just had like an epiphany like a week ago
Speaker 5: that everything.
Speaker 3: Is really just a story.
Speaker 5: And a lot of what you do is really trying
Speaker 5: to understand the the putting or putting together rather the
Speaker 5: story of the sky, and understanding that all of these
Speaker 5: other stories are just retellings of that, you know, and
Speaker 5: like you think of history and it's like those are
Speaker 5: just stories that other people are telling you what happened,
Speaker 5: you know, And so as far as like what I've
Speaker 5: come to understand is everything is just a story. But
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you a question as far as like,
Speaker 5: because I'm you know, Jonathan and I are always contemplating
Speaker 5: and really trying to understand things. Is there something recently
Speaker 5: that you've kind of been thinking about a lot and
Speaker 5: doing a lot of contemplation on that is becoming more
Speaker 5: clear to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm realizing more how much power I have to
Speaker 2: manifest things and to see the light at the end
Speaker 2: of the tunnel. Rest assured. All of this shit that's
Speaker 2: going on around the world, it's all just stories, It's
Speaker 2: all just theater. Just stay within yourself, stay true, be authentic,
Speaker 2: know yourself, get to know yourself, love yourself, enjoy your
Speaker 2: own company. I love soul with you. I love sol.
Speaker 2: I don't have any need for anything anything. There's nothing
Speaker 2: that I need and I want in this world at
Speaker 2: all at all. I've never been in love, for instance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been married and everything, but I've never been in
Speaker 2: live right, So, and I don't care for it. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't need it because I didn't get it
Speaker 2: when I was younger, And why do I want it now?
Speaker 2: I don't, you know. I mean, I love looking at Ferrari's.
Speaker 2: But I don't want one. You know. I love looking
Speaker 2: at people's beautiful mansions and everything like that, but I
Speaker 2: don't want one. I don't want one. I want a shack.
Speaker 2: I want a wooden shack and a guitar to play,
Speaker 2: and and I'm happy.
Speaker 3: That's the way to go, right there.
Speaker 5: That's a good place to be, you know, when you
Speaker 5: don't need anything, when you have everything you need, like detached.
Speaker 5: Some people have so much and they're still not happy,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And so that's a great
Speaker 5: place to be. Everything else beyond that is just a bonus.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: That's one thing that I've really come to understand. It's like, Man,
Speaker 5: when you're in that space that you just spoke of, Man,
Speaker 5: everything else is just extra, you know, and it's like
Speaker 5: a like a little added bonus or surprise.
Speaker 3: It's like, Man, it's a good place to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's when you close your eyes and meditate and
Speaker 2: you're in the zone. There's there's nothing else out there happening,
Speaker 2: there's nothing.
Speaker 3: You're not absent of anything, your whole.
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about Iran or rezz Rayel
Speaker 2: or Lebanon or Greenland, or freaking the next plague where
Speaker 2: it's going to be a bowler or covid or zabowler
Speaker 2: or zingola or whatever, all these freaking names that put
Speaker 2: on You don't have to worry about any of that,
Speaker 2: you know. I've I've pretty much avoided or of that stuff. Everything,
Speaker 2: I've avoided, all the things that people complain about. I've
Speaker 2: just it's not my world great because I don't look.
Speaker 3: At it that's great. Man.
Speaker 5: So many people feel like they have to participate or else,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. They have to inject themselves
Speaker 5: into everything wrong in the world, and it's like, no wonder.
Speaker 5: So many people have anxiety or depression. You know, you're
Speaker 5: absorbing everybody's problems.
Speaker 3: You don't have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are good people, but they also have their
Speaker 2: own problems. And that's what they're trying to fix outside
Speaker 2: of them is what they haven't fixed inside of them yet.
Speaker 2: That's all it is. They'll work it out. We'll all
Speaker 2: work it out. And the question you said before, asked
Speaker 2: me before about what are you working on? What's the
Speaker 2: big thing is that realization is that all the clowns,
Speaker 2: the ugly people, the beautiful people, the fat people, the
Speaker 2: skinny people. They're all just parts of you, you know,
Speaker 2: And there's there's no need to attack them, and there's
Speaker 2: no need to, you know, worship them more or adore them.
Speaker 2: Just love yourself, love yourself first. But but but do
Speaker 2: it really? You know? Really, do you know?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? That's great?
Speaker 4: Man? All the greats say the same thing, well, at
Speaker 4: least all of our favorite greats. Anyway, it's all it's
Speaker 4: all one, and everything is is you, and you know it.
Speaker 4: For the longest time, it seemed like a cool belief.
Speaker 4: But whenever you really start steeping your world and you're
Speaker 4: all of your understanding and your entire perception into that,
Speaker 4: I dare I say, fact, I believe to I believe
Speaker 4: it to be a fact. And man, the world starts
Speaker 4: to change and you start to start to look at
Speaker 4: a lot of the myths and a lot of the
Speaker 4: religious stories in a very very different way, and a
Speaker 4: lot of those teachers you start to understand to a
Speaker 4: deeper level than maybe you ever thought before.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the great Roomy Shakespeare or whatever you wrote,
Speaker 2: that it's all in your field. It no one owns
Speaker 2: any thoughts. None of your thoughts were original. It's all
Speaker 2: from the one mind of God, which is you, and
Speaker 2: which comes from you. The Kingdom of God is within.
Speaker 2: If the Kingdom of God is within, well then it's
Speaker 2: not without right.
Speaker 4: Yes, definitely agree, And you brought up Roomy. Roomy has
Speaker 4: one of my favorite quotes of all time where he
Speaker 4: said I tried to find God and all I found
Speaker 4: was myself. I tried to find myself and all I
Speaker 4: found was God. And I'm like, oh my God, that
Speaker 4: is just perfect and it seems so simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Christians have been trained to think that
Speaker 2: people who say that they are God or that they
Speaker 2: ignore their godship are demonized. And you can't do that
Speaker 2: because only God is God. And oh it's it's inconceivably
Speaker 2: insane that they would just empty themselves of everything divine
Speaker 2: and glorious and reduce themselves to a worm, just because,
Speaker 2: just because in the Psalms, King David said, for I
Speaker 2: am but a worm, Well, that's poetry. It's not literal.
Speaker 2: It's poetry. It's like when I said before, I know nothing, Well,
Speaker 2: that's that's not true, because I know English. I'm talking
Speaker 2: to you in English, so I do know something. But
Speaker 2: it's poetry. It's it's it's being real that I don't
Speaker 2: know everything. I can I can know everything if I
Speaker 2: tap into the field like anyone. I'm not special, and
Speaker 2: yet I am special. That we're all special, but you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So they take it literally that
Speaker 2: we are worms and that we're sinners and we have
Speaker 2: shame and guilt, and unless we do that, so much
Speaker 2: service and pay penance and donate money to the church,
Speaker 2: and give our support to the Northern Baptists because the
Speaker 2: Southern Baptists are going to Hell, or the Jehovah's Witnesses
Speaker 2: because not the Mormons, they're going to hell. So you've
Speaker 2: got thirty thousand Christian denominations. They're all registered with the
Speaker 2: Regis Register the King with a five oh one C
Speaker 2: three registration, which means that they're not doing God doing
Speaker 2: the governments.
Speaker 3: We're on Catholic.
Speaker 2: Everyone is Catholic, never no one. There's no Protestant. And
Speaker 2: if there's anyone that's a Protestant out there and that's
Speaker 2: reading the Bible and they think that it's a person Bible,
Speaker 2: talk to me for ten minutes. I'll convince you. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: everyone is Catholic who has a birth certificate which makes
Speaker 2: them a person which is a parson, a servant of
Speaker 2: the truth of the Catholic Church. And if you have
Speaker 2: a zip code, that zip code is your office, which
Speaker 2: is your home office. And what's an office. It's an
Speaker 2: ecclesiastical institution.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: When you say I've got my little office over there,
Speaker 2: well you're just talking Catholic. That's a Catholic word, an office.
Speaker 2: It's not secular. You can't have a secular office. Offices
Speaker 2: must be registered for tax purposes, which means you are
Speaker 2: working for the Catholic Church and the inquisition. If you
Speaker 2: have a zip code on your license, on your wherever
Speaker 2: it is, that zip code is your own and you're
Speaker 2: a person. Office in person are ecclesiastical words.
Speaker 4: All the more reason not to be of this world.
Speaker 3: You know, that's just the.
Speaker 2: Way I talk about it. And that's not to say
Speaker 2: don't read the Bible. I would recommend reading the Bible
Speaker 2: like as much as possible. It's just such a great book.
Speaker 2: It's just read it properly and don't let anyone tell
Speaker 2: you how to interpret it because they'll just destroy everything everything.
Speaker 2: And look at them, Look at the people who who
Speaker 2: have a Look at some of these preachers who bring
Speaker 2: thousands of people into their churches and they're all they're hypnotized,
Speaker 2: and Jesus is in their midst and their healing and
Speaker 2: all of that. These people are nothing but pure hypocritical
Speaker 2: demons in human flesh. The things they do in secret,
Speaker 2: not even the perverts who admit they do it, do
Speaker 2: what they do. These Christians, so called Christians, the things
Speaker 2: that they practice in private, you would be disgusted. It's
Speaker 2: soul a facade, Oh yeah, facade.
Speaker 4: Look, if you think that God is outside of you
Speaker 4: and that you are nothing but a sinner and a
Speaker 4: crusty old sock that was tossed under your bed, you know, like,
Speaker 4: if that's what you believe about yourself, then you're probably
Speaker 4: going to, you know, emulate that. Like if you think
Speaker 4: that that's what you are, and therefore every time you
Speaker 4: do something that is deemed a sin or wrong or
Speaker 4: bad in your eyes, well that's just what you are,
Speaker 4: you know. Of course I'm gonna do that, That's what
Speaker 4: I am. And I hear this all the time that hey,
Speaker 4: nobody's perfect, there was only ever one that was perfect,
Speaker 4: and it's like, man, you know, just with that with
Speaker 4: that way of thinking, of course, I mean, look, i
Speaker 4: don't think that anybody's necessarily looking for perfection. But you know,
Speaker 4: if you have a belief, I think that the best
Speaker 4: way to be able to really embody that belief is by,
Speaker 4: you know, doing what your belief says to do kind
Speaker 4: of thing. And I just every time I talk to
Speaker 4: somebody who is religious, not every time. I'm sure there's
Speaker 4: a lot of good people all over the world, but
Speaker 4: a lot of bad people as well, And every time
Speaker 4: I hear these kinds of things, I'm just taken back
Speaker 4: by the idea that God is removed. I'm like, you
Speaker 4: lost me. You lost me right there. You say that
Speaker 4: God is everything, but not you. Interesting, that's where God stops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that I don't even read their own scriptures,
Speaker 2: Jesus said. Jesus quoted the Psalm where it says, did
Speaker 2: I not say that you are all gods? Yep, Jesus
Speaker 2: is quoting the Psalms which say that you are all gods?
Speaker 2: And he said it himself. And why would Jesus be
Speaker 2: talking to his disciples and say, don't you call anyone
Speaker 2: on this earth your teacher, for only one is your teacher,
Speaker 2: the Christ. Wait a minute, if he's the Christ and Jesus,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you say me, only one is your teacher,
Speaker 2: me the guy you're looking at right here. See, he
Speaker 2: just knows me. No. He spoke of the Christ in
Speaker 2: the third person. It's right there in the Bible. Don't
Speaker 2: call anyone on this earth your father or your teacher,
Speaker 2: for only one is your teacher, the Christ, the Christ.
Speaker 4: Which you know. And some people say, well, the Christ
Speaker 4: is the anointing oil. The anointing oil is within everybody.
Speaker 4: It starts at the base of your spine, and you
Speaker 4: have to work it up in that way you is
Speaker 4: it enlightenment? Whenever that that, he still works itself all
Speaker 4: the way up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, this is what the teachers, this is what
Speaker 2: the churches are doing. They're making automatons, not autonomous people.
Speaker 2: The idea is to be self determined. That's what Jesus.
Speaker 2: All of Jesus teachings in all of the Gospels, the
Speaker 2: extra canonical ones as well, even in theo in Matthew, Mark, Luke,
Speaker 2: and John. He teaches you to be a king and
Speaker 2: a priest, and you will rule with Christ for a
Speaker 2: thousand years as a king and a priest. What does
Speaker 2: that mean, Well, that you be your own priest, that
Speaker 2: you ascend yourself, you do the work, you save your ass.
Speaker 2: You have to wipe your own bumb right, you don't
Speaker 2: get someone a mom. I'm forty six, but I got
Speaker 2: a dirty ass. I'm sitting on the toilet. Can you
Speaker 2: come and wipe my bum? You've got to do all
Speaker 2: that shit yourself. Everything, you have to do yourself right.
Speaker 2: So they're they're making people do soul with this teaching
Speaker 2: that you're just a worm and God is different to you,
Speaker 2: and you're not You're very dissimilar, and Christ is the
Speaker 2: only perfect example, and you will never ever emulate him,
Speaker 2: and you'll never do good things. Well, that's well, it's
Speaker 2: just stupidity.
Speaker 4: And did Jesus ever say that? Actually, Jesus said that
Speaker 4: you'll do all these things and then some and.
Speaker 2: More exactly, and you will prevail. I take courage. You
Speaker 2: will conquer the world. I have conquered the world. And
Speaker 2: what does that mean? To be in the world but
Speaker 2: not part of it? See, I'm in the world. I'm
Speaker 2: stuck here. I've got a body. I'm in the world
Speaker 2: right stuck, but I'm not a part of it. I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not a part of anything. I don't join.
Speaker 2: I haven't joined any clubs. I joined the job's wittness.
Speaker 2: So I was fooled. And I did join a club,
Speaker 2: even though I left school and I was always been
Speaker 2: a rebel. But the only reason for that was because
Speaker 2: I wanted to serve God. I want to be a
Speaker 2: servant of divinity. I didn't want to be a mundane,
Speaker 2: average individual nine to five. I've never done. I've never
Speaker 2: had a boss, I've never had a job, and i've
Speaker 2: never paid taxes. Fuck yeah, Ever, that's the way. You're
Speaker 2: right there, and I don't tend to start doing it.
Speaker 2: I never will. I will never have a job. See
Speaker 2: why do the scriptures say trust in God, he will
Speaker 2: give you everything, And yet you go to a business
Speaker 2: and you knock on the door to a man who
Speaker 2: eats and poos and wipes his ass and dies of
Speaker 2: a heart attack when he's fifty one, and you beg
Speaker 2: him for a nine to five where you can make
Speaker 2: seven dollars fifty an hour. That's not trusting in God.
Speaker 2: I've trusted in God. I've lived the path that I
Speaker 2: that everything that I teach, I've lived it. It's authentic.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not I haven't constructed any of this
Speaker 2: and made it look like a social media thing. But
Speaker 2: in the you know, in the background, I've joined a
Speaker 2: club and you know, and I do this and that
Speaker 2: that I shouldn't be doing. No, No, I walk, I walk,
Speaker 2: my talk and so and and so. I've been self employed.
Speaker 2: I've had my own businesses and a musician and what
Speaker 2: have you. And why should I tell the government that
Speaker 2: I made one hundred thousand dollars last year and you
Speaker 2: can have a part of it. No, I ain't doing that.
Speaker 2: It's voluntary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do want their part too.
Speaker 2: They're not going to get a scent of my money
Speaker 2: to continue genocides and stealing and and keeping our wages,
Speaker 2: that people's wages down whilst rent and insurance and everything
Speaker 2: goes up. They're not going to get a centimid.
Speaker 4: They never will, no way, especially not whenever they've they've failed,
Speaker 4: like their seventh audit in a row, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I always want their money, but for some reason
Speaker 3: they're just terrible at it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, the priests tell you that God needs money,
Speaker 2: the governments need money. They all need your money because
Speaker 2: that's your energy, that's that's how they've tokenized your energy. Right,
Speaker 2: So you give this a little bit of paper to
Speaker 2: someone and you get something back. I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: a it's not a bad thing, you know, but the
Speaker 2: interest that's on it and all the other attachments is
Speaker 2: what makes it bad. But there's nothing wrong with using
Speaker 2: a bit of paper to exchange value at all. But
Speaker 2: it's not just a bit of paper. There's there's there's
Speaker 2: much more attached.
Speaker 3: To currency mm hmm, currency energy, yeah, man, And so we.
Speaker 2: Just shouldn't buy into it. Just be yourself, be your
Speaker 2: true true self. If people get offended, let them get offended.
Speaker 2: You will teach them a lesson because it's their rego
Speaker 2: that's being offended, it's not their highest self yep.
Speaker 4: Which is interesting because they say that, you know, authenticity
Speaker 4: is the highest vibration that there is, you know, above love,
Speaker 4: above even enlightenment.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure it's something crazy like that, though. Authenticity
Speaker 4: is the highest vibration that you can be in. And
Speaker 4: I can see that in you for sure. You know,
Speaker 4: I've been following you for many years now, and I
Speaker 4: can tell that you are who you say you are,
Speaker 4: and you practice what you preach and you know, You're
Speaker 4: just always going to be somebody we look up to.
Speaker 4: So man, such a blessing to have you here and
Speaker 4: to be able to talk to you. I've heard you
Speaker 4: so many damn times, dude, And just what a fucking
Speaker 4: wild matrix this turned out to be.
Speaker 5: You know, almost feels unreal, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: It does a little bit, but I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, when I was young, I always aspired to
Speaker 2: what now I call syncretism and the knowledge that I have,
Speaker 2: I've always aspired to it. I've always I was always
Speaker 2: dissatisfied with the Jove's witnesses interpretation of the scriptures and
Speaker 2: anyone else and and every book that I've ever ever read.
Speaker 2: You know, there's always something that sort of doesn't sit
Speaker 2: with me and what have you. And then what happens
Speaker 2: is if you just just pay attention, just observe you
Speaker 2: don't believe anything, then then you will sit with what
Speaker 2: is true because the truth, it's just it stands on
Speaker 2: its own lies made many other lies to support that lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a lot more energy.
Speaker 2: The truth doesn't need anything, doesn't need any support at all,
Speaker 2: not facts, not evidence, nothing, It just it speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: And it is itself. The lie is the lie is
Speaker 2: the thing that keeps people distracted from knowing the truth.
Speaker 2: And what happens is they construct other lies and stories
Speaker 2: to reconfirm that with their herd, whoever it is, whether
Speaker 2: it's their church or whatever. So they talk to each
Speaker 2: other to confirm their bias and their prejudice and their preconditioned,
Speaker 2: preconceived lies, and they call it the truth. So when
Speaker 2: I was Jehovah's witness, I would say that I was
Speaker 2: in the truth. Well, that's true, I was. That is
Speaker 2: a condition. You see, if I say, if I talk
Speaker 2: about the air, that's air. That means universal air. But
Speaker 2: if I say the air in this room is stuffy,
Speaker 2: that's different from air. That's the air. Now now I'm
Speaker 2: pointing to a certain conditioned air, it's not air anymore,
Speaker 2: it's the air. The definite article is one of the
Speaker 2: best magical spells in all languages, which changes the truth
Speaker 2: of the meaning. That's why Aboriginals in Australia, for instance,
Speaker 2: they don't say I'm eating. They will say eating is happening?
Speaker 2: M you know, like, what are you doing? Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm meeting a sandwich. No, they will say eating is
Speaker 2: occurring right because no articles. In fact, there are nine
Speaker 2: parts to languages, and articles are one of them. You know,
Speaker 2: you've got verbs, nouns, pronouns at the adjectives, prepositions, interjections,
Speaker 2: and articles right now, some languages don't have articles for
Speaker 2: the very reason to not condition the word.
Speaker 4: I wonder if that's also if it's also like not
Speaker 4: associating your body as yourself. Is there a little bit
Speaker 4: of that in there potentially, like instead like if you
Speaker 4: say I'm eating a sandwich, then you're assuming that you
Speaker 4: are the body and that that's all you are.
Speaker 3: I'm just getting weird. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for unawakened people, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, sir, you got your hand raised.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I've heard a lot of people are talk about how
Speaker 6: almost a lot a lot of the Native cultures out
Speaker 6: of that kind of no definite article.
Speaker 3: Type deal.
Speaker 7: I heard someone talking about, like the Native Americans. They're
Speaker 7: describing how they don't have a word for like a
Speaker 7: wave on the water. It's because it whenever you make
Speaker 7: it a definite article, it essentially brings it out of
Speaker 7: the now and makes it like they they're just the
Speaker 7: way that you describe a wave is like that it
Speaker 7: is waving, which is like in the current moment. And
Speaker 7: I think a lot of the why they speak that
Speaker 7: way is their language keeps their thought process so differently
Speaker 7: because it keeps them more in the now.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, as opposed to something that did happen,
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 7: The thing exactly, it's happening exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm not one of these persons that believes
Speaker 2: that we shouldn't be using certain under certain words like understand. Right.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people who say innerstand and overstand, Well,
Speaker 2: that's just bullshit. That's that's just that's just that just
Speaker 2: shows that there's still just woke and they are nowhere
Speaker 2: near awakened. There's there's nothing wrong with using the definite article,
Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with the English language. It's just
Speaker 2: that as long as you are aware that you're doing that,
Speaker 2: and you don't, you don't have to change anything. Nothing
Speaker 2: has to be changed, nothing like people insist that we
Speaker 2: have to change the calendar because it's a man made thing,
Speaker 2: the Gregorian calendar, and it's wrong. It's not wrong because
Speaker 2: it's it's piggybacking on the ecliptic. The ecliptic is nature's cycle.
Speaker 2: Spring always turns up in March, summer always turns up
Speaker 2: in June, the fall always in September, and now we're
Speaker 2: in the winter in Capricorn in January, and that never changes.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter whether it's the Gregorian calendar or
Speaker 2: the Julian calendar, or the Anno Domini calendar or the
Speaker 2: Chinese calendary. It doesn't matter what men put on the
Speaker 2: ecliptic at all, at all. That's why astrologers are always
Speaker 2: at an advantage to people who don't know the science
Speaker 2: of the Word of God, which is astrology. They are
Speaker 2: at a disadvantage because they they're wearing watches. I don't
Speaker 2: know why people wear watches. I mean, and rollex Ones
Speaker 2: is like, look at me, I've got a cold watch.
Speaker 2: I'm a real slave of time.
Speaker 3: Paid ten grand to look at the time. You know,
Speaker 3: It's like why.
Speaker 2: And you've got these guys like, for an example, Floyd
Speaker 2: Mayweather money money Mayweather, Right, he's got this whole thing
Speaker 2: of Rollicks watches. But you could have saved you could
Speaker 2: have saved thousands and thousands of homeless people with one
Speaker 2: of those watches and put them in a small home,
Speaker 2: brought them an RV or something like that. But those watches,
Speaker 2: you can't wear them every day and enjoy them every day.
Speaker 2: They're just sitting there, not all of them. It's it's
Speaker 2: just it's utter. It just shows their immaturity and their stupidity.
Speaker 2: Sure they've got talents, you could fight well and everything
Speaker 2: and everything, but that means nothing in the scheme of things.
Speaker 2: In the scheme of things, it's not what you have,
Speaker 2: it's who you are what you are.
Speaker 4: Speaking of matter, speaking of astrology, I kind of want
Speaker 4: to get your thoughts on this. Do you do you
Speaker 4: apply your astrological understandings to the tropical or the sidereal
Speaker 4: and do you think that one is more efficient and
Speaker 4: more correct than the other?
Speaker 2: The tropical system is the true system side direal. See
Speaker 2: people think that the constellations are the signs of the zodiac. No,
Speaker 2: they are not. The signs are not the constellations. The
Speaker 2: signs are on the ecliptic, and they are thirty degrees
Speaker 2: each along three. Every wave is three hundred and sixty degrees,
Speaker 2: and every wave is divided into twelve. Everything in the
Speaker 2: universe is a twelveness. Everything sieial astrology because of a
Speaker 2: slight shift in the positions of the stars. They believe
Speaker 2: that it's the stars that are influencing that month. It's
Speaker 2: not the stars.
Speaker 3: With the procession of the equinomic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything is on the ecliptic. The people who that's
Speaker 2: why the Bible says that you who worship the stars,
Speaker 2: you were fools. You who go by the stars. You
Speaker 2: don't go by the stars, you go by the ecliptic.
Speaker 2: That's why in Job thirty eight thirty two, God says
Speaker 2: to Job do you know the Mazaroth, he wasn't talking
Speaker 2: about the constellations at all, he was talking about the ecliptic.
Speaker 4: Oh, that makes I never heard it put that way.
Speaker 4: That makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 2: So the signs are not the constellations. They are totally
Speaker 2: two different things. So this idealists are following the constellations
Speaker 2: and they're being totally misled. Tropical astrology, which is constant
Speaker 2: and never changing, is the only true system period. Wow.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm good with that because we've been kind
Speaker 5: of like this has been kind of a thing. We
Speaker 5: don't know which one is what, and you know, we
Speaker 5: heard this idea, like you said, it's kind of like
Speaker 5: more of as of how everything is right now, and
Speaker 5: so we're like, well, that would have to be the
Speaker 5: more accurate one, you know, that's kind of the thing
Speaker 5: that we would think.
Speaker 3: But just hearing what you said, we're going with that.
Speaker 3: We're back on the track. We're locked in. Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: back in.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm a tourius again. We're good, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, well, don't take it from me, take it from
Speaker 2: all the great ancient astrologers, not the New Age ones.
Speaker 2: Nothing in the last one hundred years or so. I
Speaker 2: forget about them. They're all they're all lost. The books
Speaker 2: that I've read, Marcus Manilius, Firmus, Maternis, Vettius Balance, Claudius Ptolemy,
Speaker 2: these are all two three thousand years old astrologers, right,
Speaker 2: the Babylonian, Chaldea and Persians. I've read all the I'll
Speaker 2: be rooney, all the Persian astrologers and all of those guys.
Speaker 2: They're all tropical. There's only one country that uses sideal,
Speaker 2: and that's India. And that's because they're stupid, because they
Speaker 2: were conquered by the Jesuits with their global their global agenda.
Speaker 2: So what happens is sidereal now can only be associated
Speaker 2: with a globe. Right, whereas tropical astrology is geocentric, it
Speaker 2: always has been and it always will be. And there's
Speaker 2: no such thing as heliocentric astrology, and there's no such
Speaker 2: thing as a globe. Therefore you cannot you cannot use
Speaker 2: astrology for anything. Yes, they do have accuracy, but that's
Speaker 2: the reason why is because the planets will be in
Speaker 2: the same houses. So if if in tropical your son
Speaker 2: is in the first house, it will be insidereal as well,
Speaker 2: in the same house. The houses do not change. That's
Speaker 2: where they get their accuracy. So people think, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I've got a reading from a sideal astrologer, and he said,
Speaker 2: my Mars is in the third house, and that's going
Speaker 2: to cause problems with my brother brothers and sisters because
Speaker 2: it's squaring with satin in cancer in the seventh house. Therefore,
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a month of trouble with my
Speaker 2: brothers and lo and behold that happens. That's because they're
Speaker 2: going by the houses. They're not going by the signs.
Speaker 2: They've got the wrong signs totally. And I've done videos.
Speaker 2: I'll just show you at one minute, I'll show you.
Speaker 3: He's going, he's going, you.
Speaker 2: Can get this book now, I do medical astrology. If
Speaker 2: you try medical astrology with sidereal, you'll kill people. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: they will die because there's no such thing as medical
Speaker 2: astrology in sidereal. It's only tropical, and it's only perfectly
Speaker 2: accurate in tropical. Now, let's have a look at all
Speaker 2: the signs. Shall we.
Speaker 8: Ares, Iron, Mars, angular energy, Taurus, copper energy, Venusian, different,
Speaker 8: look all together.
Speaker 2: You can only do this in tropical. When I pick
Speaker 2: people signs, even Indian people who who are out and
Speaker 2: out siderealists, I say you're Libra, You're a Libren. I
Speaker 2: can see it, and the like no, no, no, I'm Burgo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well yeah you're librin because I can see the features.
Speaker 9: Actually, so if you would have get if you were
Speaker 9: to get this book and just study all the features
Speaker 9: and how to identify the signs, you will neverver.
Speaker 2: Go ideal astrology because you'll get everything wrong. Everything. Look
Speaker 2: at the geminis, two faced, skewed facial features. There's nothing
Speaker 2: symmetrical at all in their faces. Famn cancer. You can
Speaker 2: see the moon, the round heads, the moon energy.
Speaker 10: Lunatics, William, look.
Speaker 2: At the felines, Leah you've got jaguars, you've got lions.
Speaker 3: That one.
Speaker 2: You've got the square. You've got the square block heads,
Speaker 2: whereas the arians are long heads like mine. Arians. Long head.
Speaker 2: It's not a block it's not a blockhead. That one
Speaker 2: was creepy, Virgo. You can't do this with zaidea. Look
Speaker 2: at the libren perfect everything's horizontal, eyebrows, vertical dimples, round,
Speaker 2: perfectly round heads.
Speaker 3: Libra, it's in the skull sheep.
Speaker 2: Even look the serious Scorpio Mars warlike hawk looking people.
Speaker 2: They look like hawks. They've all got beaks. Look at
Speaker 2: the beaks, the bird beak.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you can't miss Owen Wilson right there, that
Speaker 4: bad right.
Speaker 2: Have a look at the happy Sagittarians ruled by Jupiter.
Speaker 2: Horse teeth, beautiful horse teeth. Big dome, big dome heads.
Speaker 2: Anyone you see with a dome like that on their head,
Speaker 2: that's the that's the horse Capricorns. Go back to serious.
Speaker 2: Look at the goats. If you can't see a goat here, guys,
Speaker 2: you need to change your glasses. If you can't see
Speaker 2: goats there, you're not looking.
Speaker 4: Denzel is the goat. I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Various big heads and all the eyes, nose and everything.
Speaker 2: It's all in a small space. Everything Satin. Satin rules Aquarius,
Speaker 2: so everyone that's ruled by Saturn. Their facial features are
Speaker 2: compacted the Jubiterarians like Pisces and Sagittarius. The eyes are
Speaker 2: wide like the fish eyes, and like the horse eyes.
Speaker 2: They're at the side. You see, you see their faces
Speaker 2: are more spread out wide.
Speaker 3: Oh that God is peripheral.
Speaker 2: If you can't see the dreamy fish here, you ain't.
Speaker 3: Steve Irwin.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's tropical. It's tropical rules everything. And rest assured.
Speaker 2: I've done thousands of medical astrology readings and picked whether
Speaker 2: the person has liver problems, kidney problems, eyesight problems, headaches
Speaker 2: all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4: On real coming with the receipts. It just makes a
Speaker 4: lot of sense now wow, all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you, if you, if you study my presentations,
Speaker 2: especially on my channel where I have a whiteboard and
Speaker 2: I do the ecliptic all the time, always do the ecliptic,
Speaker 2: I'll just show you how I do. I'll just show
Speaker 2: you example.
Speaker 4: This is what I hoped it would be. Let's go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got the whiteboard, dude, Yes, so for.
Speaker 2: Instance, let's turn that big TV screen off and that
Speaker 2: will get the reflection up. Yeah. There, well, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Just be with me.
Speaker 4: You know, he's old school busting out the old whiteboard.
Speaker 2: D dude, that's better. Okay.
Speaker 10: So always a tom and and I dun is one
Speaker 10: two three four, which equals one and so do all
Speaker 10: these words DNA adam dan man man equals one h Right.
Speaker 10: So this is this is red shift, blue shift, and
Speaker 10: the green heart charkra. So if your body, your head
Speaker 10: was here, you would have a violet indigo, blue throat chakra,
Speaker 10: green heart charkra.
Speaker 2: The core the hyperbola. You can see the hourglass the hyperbola.
Speaker 2: Can you see that?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: Right, that's in the middle. That's the inverse of the
Speaker 2: taurrest field, and the taurust field is the inverse of
Speaker 2: the hyperbola. You can't talk about taurust fields without talking
Speaker 2: about the hyperbola. So what I do always is the ecliptic,
Speaker 2: starting at the spring equinox March twenty fie up to
Speaker 2: the tropic of cancer June twenty first, down to September
Speaker 2: twenty third, the autumnal equinox, and then go down to
Speaker 2: the twenty first of December, which is the winter solstice.
Speaker 2: And that makes the tourist field. And that's the ecliptic,
Speaker 2: and that's the tropical system and it will never change.
Speaker 2: And this is all this o Tom, Everything, everything you
Speaker 2: need to know is in this turist field. There are
Speaker 2: only three words tom at Tom, tourm and bowl bol
Speaker 2: for the hyperboler this bowl here see that, well, there's
Speaker 2: those are the three trinity words of all other words.
Speaker 2: Everything comes from those words. Everything, every thought, every sea,
Speaker 2: thing in the universe, everything bana comes from those three
Speaker 2: words tom or tom, bull and tall.
Speaker 3: My god, this is too much.
Speaker 4: I love it. I love all of it. I just
Speaker 4: I love that you man, You've just been at it
Speaker 4: for so long and you're so sure and I'm I'm
Speaker 4: not even one hundred percent sure that I get it,
Speaker 4: but I just trust you right now. And then I'm
Speaker 4: going to do a little bit more research so that
Speaker 4: way I don't have to rely on you, know, your research.
Speaker 4: I can eventually get it myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you will, because I don't teach in a
Speaker 2: complicated way. I just teach in a very plain, simple way.
Speaker 2: And and I and I'll show it and there's there's
Speaker 2: nothing that I can say that is wrong, because the
Speaker 2: moment I say something that is wrong, the whole, all
Speaker 2: the thesis, the whole thing collapses. Like a Swiss watchmaker,
Speaker 2: if he misses one little spring or cog or wheel
Speaker 2: or gear in his watch, it won't watch. So he can't.
Speaker 2: He can't stuff it up. You can't. You can't screw
Speaker 2: screw that up. What I did on that board there,
Speaker 2: all of that is perfect. It's one hundred tent perfect.
Speaker 2: Because if one letter is out, or one number or
Speaker 2: one fact is out, everything collapses and nothing collapses. It
Speaker 2: all comes back to the one the tourist field. So
Speaker 2: does does.
Speaker 4: This apply to all physical reality or all existence that
Speaker 4: has ever existed?
Speaker 2: Every single thought, every single mount and river, stream, creation, timeline,
Speaker 2: everything is a tom, all a tom. This is the
Speaker 2: Egyptian Bible, the Hermitica, right, that's if you read the
Speaker 2: corpus Hermdican. After every sentence bah all is a tom,
Speaker 2: next sentence, all the tom. Why do they end every
Speaker 2: single sentence is ad nauseum with all his atum? Why
Speaker 2: was that their maxim? Why was that their motif? Since thousands?
Speaker 2: That's it, that's the book thousands and thousands of years.
Speaker 2: Why did the Greeks say everything is atoms? Why did
Speaker 2: the Hindu hin hint, the Hindus say that all his
Speaker 2: om atom?
Speaker 10: Why here in Mexico, this little old lady.
Speaker 2: Here, why is she called originally ton Nansen? Tom? Didn't
Speaker 2: I just say that everything is aton, always aton or
Speaker 2: atom or Adam? Even the Bible says everything comes from Adam,
Speaker 2: the father of all is Adam. Because everything is atoms.
Speaker 2: We have an anatomy, for goodness sakes.
Speaker 4: And people say it literally like it's a bloodline.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, guys. All I'm saying is atoms,
Speaker 2: because you are an atomy and you have a torso,
Speaker 2: which is a taurus field.
Speaker 4: That's your torso, which it does make sense then that
Speaker 4: that that that Christos would rise up the taurus field,
Speaker 4: then rise up the torso like that, because the taurus
Speaker 4: field or the torso would essentially be the like the
Speaker 4: the highway or the alley that the Cristos travels through.
Speaker 4: Or am I crazy?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah? It's christ is light, right, It's it's light,
Speaker 2: but it's light that is resting light. So it's the
Speaker 2: blue shift part. The red shift is satan see they're
Speaker 2: both one and the same. It's the demiurge. Jesus is
Speaker 2: the devil that in other words, it is both good
Speaker 2: and evil. That's why when you look at when you
Speaker 2: when you look at pictures of Jesus of the Sacred Heart,
Speaker 2: well you always see red shift blue shift. It's always
Speaker 2: it's always red and blue, and it's coming out of
Speaker 2: it's coming out of white. And see the black horns,
Speaker 2: the horns, those those are the horns of the taurust.
Speaker 2: So it's showing you that black and white light produces
Speaker 2: the effect of red shift blue shift, which centers in green.
Speaker 2: That's why when you go and get your printers cartridges,
Speaker 2: you asked for ah GB red, green, blue, because that's it.
Speaker 2: Those are the need colors. That's the trinity colors of creation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this just reminds me of a Bible versus Isaiah
Speaker 4: chapter forty five, verse seven, where it's I believe it's
Speaker 4: God saying this, He goes, I form the light and
Speaker 4: create darkness, I make peace and create evil. I the
Speaker 4: Lord do all these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Jesus. Yeah, it's Jesus is the devil.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes the most amount of sense especially when
Speaker 4: you talk about red shift and blue shift. So blue
Speaker 4: shifting would be getting like kind of getting into your Christ.
Speaker 2: Well, it's see the blue part of red shift blue
Speaker 2: shift is gravitation, the red part is radiation. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Walter Russell. Walter Russell said, there's only two things happening
Speaker 2: in the universe, gravitation and radiation. Radiation is red color,
Speaker 2: gravitation is blue. So Schallberger, for instance, he said, why
Speaker 2: are we using hot red shift energy electricity to run
Speaker 2: our motors when I can make a motor that generates
Speaker 2: free energy on the implosive blue gravitational energy. It's a
Speaker 2: billion times more powerful than radiation.
Speaker 3: And more efficient.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Shall burger Steinmetz Tesla that Tesla said, I know
Speaker 2: of a wave that no other scientists have ever spoken about. Well,
Speaker 2: he's talking about the standing wave, the longitudinal wave. So
Speaker 2: we have two kinds of waves. Magnetism, which is pure
Speaker 2: white light, does not vibrate. There's no vibration in white light.
Speaker 2: There's no transverse component to it. But as soon as
Speaker 2: white light splits in the prison, all those colors that
Speaker 2: come out on the other side, they're all transverse waves,
Speaker 2: which means they have a decay factor built into them,
Speaker 2: and that they are temporal. So when people say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this world is not real, well it is, but it's temporal,
Speaker 2: so they should qualify what they're saying. It's not real
Speaker 2: because it's not. It's ephemeral, fleeting and transient.
Speaker 4: But it is real, right, just temporary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's temporary because of the decay factor. It's like
Speaker 2: when you're in town and you're listening to your favorite
Speaker 2: radio station, but you live sixty miles out of town, right,
Speaker 2: You're driving on the highway, you've got all your shopping,
Speaker 2: you're listening to your favorite radio station, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it starts crackling because you're far away.
Speaker 4: From the.
Speaker 2: The from the sword of the radio station's antenna, and
Speaker 2: then eventually you don't hear anything because that's the transverse wave.
Speaker 2: It decays, It proves it. It shows that, that shows
Speaker 2: that the life of the wave only extends and then dies,
Speaker 2: like the life of a human being. Because this stuff
Speaker 2: you're looking at, it's all transverse waves. The only standing
Speaker 2: wave that is in my body is in my heart.
Speaker 2: The heart pulses. So when you throw a stone into
Speaker 2: a pond, a still pond you see the radial waves
Speaker 2: coming out, that's a longitudinal wave. It grows bigger. There
Speaker 2: is no suffering, there is no corruption in the scala standing.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to call it, longitudinal wave, does it
Speaker 2: matters not. It's the transverse wave which makes red shift
Speaker 2: blue shift. And that's why we've got red pill, blue pill,
Speaker 2: red blood, blue blood, red siren, blue siren, red tap
Speaker 2: for hot blue, cold blue for cold, Roses of red,
Speaker 2: violets of blue, Republicans of red, Democrats of blue. That's
Speaker 2: all about polarity conphaps. M hmm, yeah, red and white,
Speaker 2: yin and yang. So there's only two yin and yangs.
Speaker 2: There's a black and white one and the subset red
Speaker 2: and blue. So for instance, if you look at the
Speaker 2: Korean flag, it's funny that the itch has gone away
Speaker 2: now and it's it's uh, I'm thankful, but there's now
Speaker 2: white in the seven dwarves o man, and that's the
Speaker 2: only other the Korean flag and the Pepsi logo. So
Speaker 2: you see that, see those four symbols there, earth, fire, air,
Speaker 2: and water. This is the demiurge, This is the devil,
Speaker 2: and this is Jesus. That both the one that both
Speaker 2: one and the same person. That's the scripture you quoted.
Speaker 2: I'm God. I'm the one that gives you good and
Speaker 2: I give you evil. I've created all these things. Oh
Speaker 2: but no, but God is only good. No, the Demiurge
Speaker 2: is not only good. He is good and evil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like eaching the.
Speaker 2: Boris Yeah, that's.
Speaker 11: The Yeah, that's yeah. So let me see if I
Speaker 11: can get this right. Fire would be I think that's fire.
Speaker 11: That that's Earth, definitely, because it's six. That's the only
Speaker 11: one that has six, that has three, that's four, and
Speaker 11: that's say five, So you've got three, four, five, six,
Speaker 11: Can you see that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: So what they're showing you is science. This is the
Speaker 2: science of transverse waves electricity. This is a subset inferior
Speaker 2: to the black and white yin and yang. Wow, the
Speaker 2: black and white yin and yang stands on top of this.
Speaker 2: It is the monad. This is the diad, the Demiurge.
Speaker 2: This is the world of illusion, dreams, maya, maya, everything
Speaker 2: red and blue red shift, blue shift. Those two colors
Speaker 2: are responsible for everything hybrid in this world, the simulation.
Speaker 2: Because electricity, the electrical world, is a hybrid. Magnetism is
Speaker 2: not It is a pure force. Electricity is not a
Speaker 2: pure force. Electricity is nothing without magnetism.
Speaker 5: Even those three D glasses remember those when we were
Speaker 5: a kid, the red and blue.
Speaker 3: He's gonna come back. I'm willing.
Speaker 2: It created this wonderful electrical grid which harms us, and
Speaker 2: we have.
Speaker 3: To pay for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, it's electricity is your enemy.
Speaker 2: Electricity is it's beautiful, it makes flowers and everything like that,
Speaker 2: but it all decays. It's all temporal. The electrical world
Speaker 2: is fleeting, it comes and goes. The magnetic world is
Speaker 2: always there and stable.
Speaker 3: It constant.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, constant.
Speaker 4: Well, so we're would you say that we are electromagnetic
Speaker 4: beings then?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: As humans? So what does that mean for you know,
Speaker 4: our spirit or our soul, our essence whenever, whenever that
Speaker 4: it starts to expire. You know, I'm sure you've thought
Speaker 4: a lot about this, and it's usually a driving factor
Speaker 4: for people who are trying to understand the nature of
Speaker 4: reality and themselves and everything. But what do you know
Speaker 4: to be true as far as the moment that we
Speaker 4: take our last breath, like what happens directly next.
Speaker 2: Well, you go back to yourself, You go back to
Speaker 2: the scripture say you go back to God, but it's you.
Speaker 2: So you go back to yourself with all the lessons
Speaker 2: learned and all the improvements. If you haven't improved, then
Speaker 2: you will take that to the other side and you
Speaker 2: will have to have another experience in a place like this,
Speaker 2: maybe somewhere else, or maybe here on the Earth, or
Speaker 2: maybe way way, way way beyond Antarctic, or who knows
Speaker 2: where we originally come from, because we're no one here.
Speaker 2: Of the humans are from this container, which supposedly only
Speaker 2: has seven continents, and what have you. We know there
Speaker 2: are like many, many many mores that they're hiding. We
Speaker 2: know that there's plenty of evidence on the Internet's it's all.
Speaker 2: It's a no brainer. It's a done deal, done and dusted.
Speaker 2: So we know that there's lies everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. So
Speaker 2: I believe, I don't know, but I believe that we
Speaker 2: our original homes are from beyond Antarctica. You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny that reminds me of So we just did
Speaker 4: like a like the esoteric overview of the Truman Show
Speaker 4: movie with Jim Carrey and whenever he was a little kid,
Speaker 4: you know, because they're trying to keep him trapped on
Speaker 4: the on the island of Seahn, and his teacher asked him, like,
Speaker 4: what do you want to be whenever you get older?
Speaker 4: And he goes, I want to be an ex explorer
Speaker 4: And the teacher goes, oh, they already explored it all.
Speaker 4: You can't do that, it's just crazy. Uh yeah, man,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've actually I've thought a lot about that
Speaker 4: as well. That you go back into yourself, it makes
Speaker 4: It's the only thing that makes sense, you know. And
Speaker 4: as far as where you come back, if you if
Speaker 4: you have to come back, or if you choose to
Speaker 4: come back or anything. Man, I think that, like, our
Speaker 4: dreams are kind of a window into that. I don't
Speaker 4: know if our dreams are memories of past lives or
Speaker 4: concurrent lives or or what. But what are your thoughts
Speaker 4: on dreams? Do you think that they're kind of a
Speaker 4: window into some other place that we've explored at a
Speaker 4: past time or is that happening now?
Speaker 2: You think that that's stuff you are? You are doing
Speaker 2: in a in a spiritual place. That's why your body
Speaker 2: has to be sleeping and still and unconscious, right. Well,
Speaker 2: your heart's still beating, right, your eyes are not looking
Speaker 2: or seeing m but all the vital organs are still going,
Speaker 2: which means your brain's still going. So what you're doing
Speaker 2: is you're just going going through, you know, the wall
Speaker 2: of your conditioned consciousness, and you're remembering or experiencing things
Speaker 2: on the what's it called the different timelines that are
Speaker 2: stacked up on each other, right, So you just jump
Speaker 2: from here to here, like, yeah, it's not in the future,
Speaker 2: it's not in the past. It's always it's always in
Speaker 2: the now. It's the only thing that exists. And in
Speaker 2: the end, if everything outside of you is destroyed, you'll
Speaker 2: find that whatever's left when everything is destroyed is you.
Speaker 2: You'll be the You'll be the last thing standing. There
Speaker 2: will always be only you at the end. You you
Speaker 2: will you will meet yourself at the end of everything. Always.
Speaker 2: You will always be there. You never have not existed.
Speaker 3: You get there and you're like, I knew it. Why
Speaker 3: did I doubt it? For something? It was really in
Speaker 3: that illusion, you know, really buying it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, and and these are things that every
Speaker 2: single ancient school taught because they wrote those things for
Speaker 2: when the change in consciousness would would lower our consciousness
Speaker 2: and we would we would become forgetful, but if we
Speaker 2: go back to the scriptures, we can remember that, we
Speaker 2: can remember that higher part of ourselves. That's why the
Speaker 2: scriptures are very important, especially the old all the ancient scriptures.
Speaker 2: Whether it's the Qur'an or whether it's Bagavad Gita, the
Speaker 2: Zenda Vesta, it matters not. They're all telling the same story,
Speaker 2: regard regardless of which buffoon tries to tell you that
Speaker 2: they're from the devil and they're different to the Bible
Speaker 2: and what have you. Regardless of that, we know not
Speaker 2: to listen to these fools. They're they're stuck in their
Speaker 2: own opinions. These are opinion opinionated people. They're not knowers.
Speaker 4: Well, they're believers, and you know, you can't spell belief
Speaker 4: without lie.
Speaker 3: So there's that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's it's unfortun But at the same time,
Speaker 2: you can rejoice that they're sleeping and you're not, because
Speaker 2: they're suffering in place of you. Why should you be
Speaker 2: upset that Larry think Is or the Pallenteer Guys or
Speaker 2: Black Rock or Vanguard. I've got all the money, and
Speaker 2: you know they've got all the ferraris and mansions and
Speaker 2: everything like that. When they're they're essentially they're living in
Speaker 2: a materialistic conditioned hell. They're conditioning themselves more and more,
Speaker 2: and they're going to that state probably forever on your behalf.
Speaker 2: So thank Larry Think for being an asshole.
Speaker 4: Thank you Larry Think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Thank you Bill Gates for being a
Speaker 2: demon doing the Lord's work, because you're the one that
Speaker 2: kind of suffer the consequences and I'm not thank you
Speaker 2: for doing all that bad shit and taking it off
Speaker 2: my shoulders.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know, interesting way to look at it.
Speaker 4: There's a way to love everybody and appreciate everybody, and
Speaker 4: that's one way of looking at it.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: One thing that I kind of get hung up on though,
Speaker 4: So if whenever we die we go back into ourselves,
Speaker 4: what about everybody else? I mean, I know that everybody
Speaker 4: and everything is is kind of just a projection of
Speaker 4: our reality. So let's say, you know, I don't know
Speaker 4: me and Sean. You know, we appear to be obviously
Speaker 4: two different people, but it's all one thing. So whenever
Speaker 4: he dies and he goes back into himself, is he
Speaker 4: like a universe himself and I'm a separate universe, or
Speaker 4: he's a God and I'm a separate God, or it's
Speaker 4: all one thing, just compressed in through different perspectives. What
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Well, he's the most important thing that you learn. At
Speaker 2: the end of your initiation in Egypt or India or
Speaker 2: whatever in the past. The last thing you learn is
Speaker 2: that you are inconceivably God with difference. You cannot conceive
Speaker 2: that you are God, but you are with difference. So Sean, yeah, yeah, Sean,
Speaker 2: and Jonathan right, so you're too. You're two separated, spaced
Speaker 2: out individuals, but you are inconceivably God with difference. So
Speaker 2: you will always always be connected to the Source and
Speaker 2: the Source, but with difference. That's the that's the highest.
Speaker 2: Those five words are the highest teaching that you can
Speaker 2: ever master and learn.
Speaker 3: And know, you are blowing my mind right now.
Speaker 4: I love it, Santos. I honestly, I kind of wish
Speaker 4: that we could just keep you on here all night
Speaker 4: because the itching seems to have gone away. Maybe we're
Speaker 4: just the cure for you. You just talk to us
Speaker 4: for the rest of your life. That sounds sounds like
Speaker 4: fun maybe, but for us.
Speaker 2: It's a crazy thing how it just comes and goes
Speaker 2: it's it's annoying. But if I had to pick a
Speaker 2: torture or a handicap or anything like that, I'd pick
Speaker 2: the itching'd because some people are in wheelchairs, some people
Speaker 2: are blind, some people are deaf. Some people have got diabetes,
Speaker 2: lung cancer. I don't have it. I've never had a disease.
Speaker 2: I don't know what diseases are. I've never paid for
Speaker 2: health insurance. Geez, you've got to be an idiot.
Speaker 3: Oy.
Speaker 2: That sounds so expensive. Why why would you have health insurance?
Speaker 2: Just keep yourself healthy? All right? So if I get sick, sick,
Speaker 2: I fix it. I do it. I don't go to
Speaker 2: a man or a woman or someone else. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: can help. There's nothing wrong wrong with doing that. But
Speaker 2: you have the ability to heal yourself. It's it's a
Speaker 2: known thing since forever.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree on that. Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 4: I definitely don't pay for no fucking health insurance. For one,
Speaker 4: it's too damn expensive, and for two, it doesn't even
Speaker 4: cover everything, you know what I mean? Like, if I
Speaker 4: get sick, I want you know, I got health insurance.
Speaker 4: That should that should pay for it. But no, it's
Speaker 4: just like, well, you know, you get a discount like
Speaker 4: no if he's the fucking purpose of it all to me,
Speaker 4: you know. But look, this has been such an amazing
Speaker 4: conversation everything that I hoped it would be. Thank you
Speaker 4: so much for coming to hang out with us, such
Speaker 4: such an honor. So you know, we do want to
Speaker 4: say you are absolutely always welcome back here anytime you
Speaker 4: want reach out to us, and we would love to
Speaker 4: do it again sometime.
Speaker 2: Can I finish with sharing an image with you about
Speaker 2: a tom please? And then and then that'll that'll do it.
Speaker 2: So I'm sending a request to share my screen yes, sir,
Speaker 2: go ahead, all right. So this is for all the
Speaker 2: viewers to screenshot, because once you master this, ain't nobody
Speaker 2: going to fool you ever. Again.
Speaker 4: Did you share it yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sharing. You can't see it?
Speaker 3: Oh I don't see it?
Speaker 2: All right, let's go again.
Speaker 3: Oh there we go?
Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's for people to screen share.
Speaker 2: Let's give it to that the.
Speaker 4: Eynes off. Okay, so this is the cabbalistic tree.
Speaker 2: Well, have a look at this, the primordial atom. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: monad adam. You see the word adam there, atom adam,
Speaker 2: They're same same thing. Right, So einsoft means the unlimited God,
Speaker 2: the boundless. This is the boundless ether. And then there's
Speaker 2: the first atom, the first logos. And then what happens
Speaker 2: is here that this white light it fractures into seven,
Speaker 2: the seven sons the faux hat, which means the force.
Speaker 2: So this is the source up here and this is
Speaker 2: the force. And then they have forty nine. It's called
Speaker 2: the forty nine fires, which is seven times seven, right.
Speaker 2: And then at the it says it shows descent spirit
Speaker 2: into matter, all things from one. If you remember that
Speaker 2: all things are interconnected and all things are one, you'll
Speaker 2: be the happiest person in any circumstance you find yourself.
Speaker 2: So please screenshot this and meditate on it. It's probably
Speaker 2: the best thing I can share with you.
Speaker 3: Perfect. Thank you man.
Speaker 4: That makes so much sense, all things from one, of
Speaker 4: the descent of spirit to matter in the matter. Wow,
Speaker 4: it just makes it just checks so many, so many
Speaker 4: boxes to me. You know, we recently had one of
Speaker 4: our one of our best friends just die about a
Speaker 4: month or so ago, and actually I think it's a
Speaker 4: month today. Died and his name was Optimistic Banks. And
Speaker 4: this is the core thing that he always came and
Speaker 4: tried to talk to us about was, you know, just
Speaker 4: oneness and how to be able to integrate that into
Speaker 4: your life, into every moment of your life. And it's
Speaker 4: definitely helped us understand the nature of this reality, nature
Speaker 4: of ourselves.
Speaker 3: A lot more.
Speaker 4: And uh, you're kind of just hammering that home. So
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Oh dude, it absolutely makes everything feel so much better,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, obstacles aren't really obstacles.
Speaker 5: You look at them and you're like, oh, okay, Like
Speaker 5: if someone's treating you like shit, oh, that's just another
Speaker 5: version of myself that's kind of having a bad go
Speaker 5: at it right now, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 5: just gives you more of that empathy and just patience
Speaker 5: with God's with difference, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Just observe, don't judge. As soon as you make
Speaker 2: a judgment, you put an obstacle in your path and
Speaker 2: you restrict your mind. It doesn't expand just watch, just observe, observe,
Speaker 2: pay attention. You don't have to be a genius, do syncretism.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be a genius at all for
Speaker 2: anything at all, whatsoever, at all. All you have to
Speaker 2: do is pay attention.
Speaker 3: This has been awesome, dude.
Speaker 5: I really appreciate you coming in and teaching us all
Speaker 5: this stuff, man, because you know some of it. We
Speaker 5: knew most of it we didn't, man, and I just
Speaker 5: really appreciate that you took the time to teach us
Speaker 5: all that man.
Speaker 2: That's great, awesome, thanks, gris great hanging out with you.
Speaker 2: We can do it again, so I know there's going
Speaker 2: to be a lot of people once, so I can
Speaker 2: have a copy of this for my channel, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: oh great. Yeah, a lot of people will see it
Speaker 2: and say, hey, I've been lining up for years to
Speaker 2: get an interview. Really good, Please don't do that to me,
Speaker 2: anyone that's out there that's been trying to interview me,
Speaker 2: because this is the only time in fifteen years been
Speaker 2: a syncretist that I've actually been accepted an interview whilst itching.
Speaker 2: Because I don't want to show that to the world.
Speaker 2: I don't want to that, man, I don't want to
Speaker 2: show that part of myself. Everyone's suffering. Everyone has their
Speaker 2: own things, right, I've always kept that apart. Yes, I've
Speaker 2: made three or four videos. They're on my channel. You
Speaker 2: can see it. Just go to mister astrotheology and put
Speaker 2: the word itch and you'll see me. You'll see how
Speaker 2: I itch and what it does to me makes me convulse.
Speaker 2: In fact, at the start of the show, you would
Speaker 2: see me doing this a lot. I was, I was
Speaker 2: doing this. My head was it's convulsions. Wow, well that's
Speaker 2: that's that's not happening anymore. Well, it's mild itching. Now.
Speaker 4: We appreciate that, man.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the only only interview I've ever done,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to do it again. So all
Speaker 2: those people that I've that I've told, in fact, you
Speaker 2: approached me three or four months ago and I said, look,
Speaker 2: give it, let's wait till the new year, because and
Speaker 2: luckily because if it had if we had done this
Speaker 2: a month ago and bedridden mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I really appreciate you taking the time, and
Speaker 3: I really do. It means a lot.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not that I don't want to do interviews. It's
Speaker 2: just that I've had to cancel so many because the
Speaker 2: east just turns up because of the anxiety and the
Speaker 2: stress of having to do an interview and what have
Speaker 2: you and getting prepared or whatever, and then I'll blow
Speaker 2: it and then and then they get upset because I canceled.
Speaker 2: I have to because I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be doing this while I'm talking to people.
Speaker 2: Let's just put people off. It's going to distract them
Speaker 2: from what I'm saying because they're looking at me scratching
Speaker 2: myself like a monkey, and it's not a good look.
Speaker 4: Well, you did great tonight, and it was awesome, you know,
Speaker 4: being able to just sit here and absorb everything that
Speaker 4: you got to say. And if anybody has any problem
Speaker 4: with your damn itching, they're not worth your time anyway.
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't even worry about being judged or people
Speaker 4: looking at you any kind of weird way because of it.
Speaker 4: Everybody has their shit that they got to work through,
Speaker 4: and I don't care about that at all. I'm just
Speaker 4: here to learn from you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, brother, I appreciate you guys being open minded
Speaker 2: and relaxed and chilled.
Speaker 4: And yeah, absolutely, man. Well, look for anybody that hasn't
Speaker 4: heard of you, which I can't imagine anybody listening to
Speaker 4: our show has never heard of you. But where can
Speaker 4: they find your channel? And everything like that?
Speaker 2: Sir so on YouTube? It's called mister astro Theology and
Speaker 2: please go to the one that's got three hundred thousand subscribers,
Speaker 2: not the one that's got thirteen thousand. Because that guy
Speaker 2: then that took my channel down two years ago. I
Speaker 2: got it back. But the day they took my channel down,
Speaker 2: I had over three hundred thousand subscribers. This guy turns
Speaker 2: up with mister Astrothea. So people are going there, going there,
Speaker 2: and they're thinking that my big channel's gone. No, it's there.
Speaker 2: Mister Astrotheology with three hundred thousand subscribers is there. But
Speaker 2: I'm teaching on school and Patreon. Patreon's free. You can
Speaker 2: join my Patreon mister Astrotheology, and every Tuesday I do
Speaker 2: a two hour lecture. In fact, that the board that
Speaker 2: you just saw that was the lecture that I did yesterday.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow I'll be doing school. But school is paid. It's
Speaker 2: nine dollars a month because on school I won't get
Speaker 2: censored like I do on Patreon or every other platform.
Speaker 2: School is completely completely private. I can say whatever I want.
Speaker 2: In fact, I've got guests there that have taught how
Speaker 2: to get out of the straw man name, and how
Speaker 2: to make a trust, and how to get the hell
Speaker 2: out of this system before digital idea. So if you
Speaker 2: want to join my school, you go back to Tanya's.
Speaker 2: It was about two months ago a lady called Tanya's video.
Speaker 2: She'll teach you exactly how to get out of the cartoon,
Speaker 2: miss the Santo Bonacci name, and just get the hell
Speaker 2: out of paying taxes, get the hell out of jobs,
Speaker 2: and be wealthy. And I can't do that on public platforms.
Speaker 2: In fact, two years ago, I decided I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do astro theology for the public. I'm just going
Speaker 2: to do it on Patreon and on school privately. Just
Speaker 2: it's not for the world. You know, I can do
Speaker 2: other things for the world. I can teach about other things,
Speaker 2: but when it comes to the science, sacred science of
Speaker 2: astrology and stuff like that, I'm doing it all in
Speaker 2: the private and it's free. You don't have to pay
Speaker 2: for patreons.
Speaker 3: Free.
Speaker 4: Hey, looks man, that's why it's not for the masses.
Speaker 4: And I believe personally that that's why mystery schools and
Speaker 4: you know, uh, secret societies and all that stuff were
Speaker 4: formed in the first place, was because the mass is
Speaker 4: you know, it's not for everybody. And not to say
Speaker 4: that anybody here is more special than anybody else. But
Speaker 4: you know, we we we take to truth, I guess
Speaker 4: more so than a lot of other people. So that's
Speaker 4: why you're here in mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it's it's special knowledge, and I want
Speaker 2: to I want to give it to special people who
Speaker 2: are serious and devoted and will find where I am.
Speaker 2: The people who haven't found where I am is probably
Speaker 2: people who are distracted and don't need it right now,
Speaker 2: but eventually they will. Eventually, Syncretism will be the only
Speaker 2: system in the universe. As it was, it was called
Speaker 2: the perennial philosophy. It still is perennial, meaning forever, and
Speaker 2: another way of calling it is secretism. And it will
Speaker 2: it will absolutely make redundant Judaism, Christianity and everything that
Speaker 2: can still exist, but that will be called syncretism because
Speaker 2: Judaism is exclusive, Christianity is exclusive. If you're not a
Speaker 2: Jehovah's witness, you're going to hell. Islam is exclusive, Hindus exclusive.
Speaker 2: Syncretism is not. It's the only inclusive, all inclusive system
Speaker 2: that exists.
Speaker 4: Because it exists, it's eglectic. I like it, that's right, yes, yes, Well, Look,
Speaker 4: every single episode we do a single tarot card pull
Speaker 4: and Sean usually pulls them. And that's what we're gonna
Speaker 4: end it on. We're going to end it on a bank.
Speaker 4: So Sean, what card was that, sir?
Speaker 5: We got the Six of Cups, all right? And if
Speaker 5: you see the red and blue, I don't know. That
Speaker 5: was just one thing that I noticed just right off
Speaker 5: the bat, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh that's good.
Speaker 2: That's a good one, that one, all right.
Speaker 4: So we like to read from this book just for
Speaker 4: the synchronicities and whatnot. But the Six of Cups, a
Speaker 4: loving exchange of support and care, feels like home after
Speaker 4: a period of grief for hardship. You've crossed the bridge
Speaker 4: into the harmonious energy of the Six of Cups card.
Speaker 4: A young boy and girl dressed up like storybook characters,
Speaker 4: appear to be playing in the main square of a
Speaker 4: sunny yellow town. The boy hands a cup with a
Speaker 4: flower with a white flower to the little girl. The
Speaker 4: two are surrounded by white flower filled cups, symbolic of innocence.
Speaker 4: The children, they're silly costumes and the mood of playful
Speaker 4: innocence all evoke childhood memories and a desire to spend
Speaker 4: time where you grew up. There is a figure in
Speaker 4: the background carrying a spear who seems to protect the
Speaker 4: children while they play. They are safe and free of worry. Wow,
Speaker 4: that actually reminds me a lot of Dude talking about
Speaker 4: whenever you die, you go back into yourself. That's going
Speaker 4: back home, you know. That's kind of what it reminds
Speaker 4: me of.
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody else thought that crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, every cup is only one half of the hyperbola.
Speaker 2: There you go, the Holy Chalice, the Holy Grail. It's
Speaker 2: the high perbole. Everything is the hyperbole. Everything atoms are hyperboles.
Speaker 2: The Sun is a hyperbole. It's a portal, a wormhole.
Speaker 2: When you look at it, you can see through it
Speaker 2: and you have to go through it to get back
Speaker 2: to cause that's why Jesus says, no one goes back
Speaker 2: to the Father except through me, and that's the Sun.
Speaker 2: The moon, on the other hand, reincarnates us back into
Speaker 2: the loop. The Sun is the savior. The sun is
Speaker 2: the savior. The moon is not the savior. The moon
Speaker 2: is the portal for demons to come back in here.
Speaker 2: That's why we have deities of the Moon, demons. That's
Speaker 2: why we have mon star moon stars, monsters, monkeys. People
Speaker 2: are monkeys. The moon is the monitor, the moon Taurus,
Speaker 2: oh man, monitoring us. The moon is not This is
Speaker 2: poetic speak, it's not literal. The moon is not your friend.
Speaker 3: The sun is.
Speaker 2: The Sun is the savior.
Speaker 3: Well, you will go.
Speaker 2: You will go through the sun one day, like you
Speaker 2: went through your mother's womb portal vagina matrix. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: go back through the sun. You will. You'll see you're
Speaker 2: going through that that wormhole and it's cold, it's not hot.
Speaker 3: Let's go. You are the man.
Speaker 4: I can't believe we're even having this conversation. Thank you
Speaker 4: so much for coming to hang out with us. We're
Speaker 4: gonna put all your links down in the show notes
Speaker 4: below for anybody who wants to be able to go
Speaker 4: and follow you over there and we'll we'll definitely send
Speaker 4: you the link of everything. We definitely appreciate you sharing
Speaker 4: it on your channel as well, So Sean, any final
Speaker 4: words for you, sir.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, Oh dude, this was just awesome.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 5: Like I said before, it doesn't even make sense that
Speaker 5: we were able to make this happen, but I'm glad
Speaker 5: we did. Man, I'm glad that you took the time
Speaker 5: to break it down for us, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Because we're still babies when it comes to all this,
Speaker 5: we're really trying to understand it and you know, figure
Speaker 5: it all out. So I really appreciate you took the time.
Speaker 3: Thanks man.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Well look, if you want to be a
Speaker 4: part of this conversation next week and every other Wednesday
Speaker 4: after that, come over to patreon dot com slash metamistics.
Speaker 4: That link is down the show notes below. You can
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Speaker 4: the shows, whether we have a guest or just a
Speaker 4: cool topic. Usually we have amazing guests, and this was
Speaker 4: one of the most amazing guests we've ever had, so
Speaker 4: it's been amazing. So yeah, come and check out Patreon.
Speaker 4: But look, we're gonna get over to that meditation. We
Speaker 4: have one more thing that we want to say though.
Speaker 4: If sands up or not, you came here and he's
Speaker 4: on you anything, it's that you don't know what you.
Speaker 3: Don't know, so it don't just get weird, stay weird.
Speaker 1: Imagine what would it happen if we had and attracted
Speaker 1: the magic we had back when we couldn't fathom life
Speaker 1: is a fantasy, not with the.
Speaker 3: Fan, indeed not the way it was back then.
Speaker 1: So when I grabbed my pan and write it down
Speaker 1: like a scripture, missed the mist making hits for the Misfits,
Speaker 1: the show where you don't know what you don't know
Speaker 1: when it's on again with Sean and Jonathan