Speaker 1: Our guest tonight is Ryan.
Speaker 2: Looking back on life that you leave him then rested
Speaker 2: a hole in the crowd, stick around through the clan,
Speaker 2: the feeling who the fire you be dancing around and
Speaker 2: we hearing the sound of the treating and no one
Speaker 2: cares where.
Speaker 3: He's coming from my ears and no ring and feeding.
Speaker 1: I guess we are.
Speaker 3: New from the start. He's on the days not close.
Speaker 3: You're one of these days will be the world. Look
Speaker 3: at Frances, what a sasku.
Speaker 4: He's my costa, b costa.
Speaker 2: Leading the fuse of the ashes, the spirits that altho.
Speaker 2: I'm looking down.
Speaker 5: The house for life.
Speaker 1: From the Untold Radio Network, It's Untold Radio Am with
Speaker 1: Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co host Jeff
Speaker 1: Pirella Jr.
Speaker 4: Untold Radio Am is going live. Wow.
Speaker 1: Now this show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep, that's
Speaker 1: the ticket. Now Here are your Untold Radio Am posts?
Speaker 1: Doug high check in, Jeff Corella Jr.
Speaker 4: Well, Hey Jeff, hi, Doug. The internet was slow today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been glitching out on me like crazy.
Speaker 4: How they too? It's just a slow really slow? Could
Speaker 4: be weather related? Yeah? I think, yeah, you think with
Speaker 4: our what exploding trees and forty hour winds forty blow
Speaker 4: wind chilled everything was forty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was pretty wild for a while. It's better today,
Speaker 5: but yeah, it's been a rough few days.
Speaker 4: It's winter in Minnesota. Yep, it happens. There was a
Speaker 4: time when it was as cold. I was up north
Speaker 4: and Nealy were string forty blow weather. It was below
Speaker 4: forty blow up there, and me and Joe had to
Speaker 4: install a I would have to say about a quarter
Speaker 4: mile of cable through the woods during this because we
Speaker 4: had a deadline discovery channel. We have to string coaxle
Speaker 4: cable from a bear down through the woods into a
Speaker 4: cabin that was very warm and beautiful because that was
Speaker 4: our power source. So we're up there with two other
Speaker 4: guys that are the tech guys inside the cabin, and
Speaker 4: so me and Joe are dressed in our really warm
Speaker 4: snow bill suits were covered. I mean, we're hot. We
Speaker 4: go out and stuff and we are sweating and and
Speaker 4: then I said, Joe, okay, so we got to crawl
Speaker 4: back in the cabin when we're done. So we got
Speaker 4: up to the front door and we just started acting
Speaker 4: like we were near death and all. Then we were
Speaker 4: just as toast as you could imagine. And and so
Speaker 4: it just proves if you dress warm, though, you can
Speaker 4: be fine.
Speaker 5: Even if I experienced experienced under forty below. That's it's
Speaker 5: like being on a different planet. That's hard to describe.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, yeah, without clothes or with exposed skin yet
Speaker 4: yeah covered, you know you have mucklucks on. You got
Speaker 4: a good sow Mill suit and your covered, your head
Speaker 4: has covered your you know, just your eyes are there exposed,
Speaker 4: and god, you could be out there. I could sleep
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I need to get a pair of real mucklucks.
Speaker 4: Those are great. Oh my god. You know why they work,
Speaker 4: don't you. No, it's because they're so flexible. They don't
Speaker 4: cut your your blood circulation.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, were Everyone has them said they're just the best.
Speaker 4: Oh they're amazing. Yeah, you like you could be out forever.
Speaker 4: And Patty used to supply me free once when I
Speaker 4: do these little expeditions, and she was so good to
Speaker 4: me in that way. And but I definitely was a
Speaker 4: believer on them after the first trip. Yeah, because your
Speaker 4: feet never get cold, not even I've heard that from
Speaker 4: so many people that they're just the best. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: have a wool lining and then you have a very
Speaker 4: flexible moose hide boot. And then Patty would use she
Speaker 4: has a process where she would dip the boots in
Speaker 4: rubber and so it's not even any sewing.
Speaker 5: Too stiffen, right, So have I'm wearing a pair of
Speaker 5: mocasins right now from her. They're awesome. It's my second pair.
Speaker 5: I wore out my first pair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so anybody experiences his cold feet, go get a
Speaker 4: pair of Steger muggles.
Speaker 5: And these are great too, They're super comfortable.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And so I was up I was up in Elie.
Speaker 4: The last time I was up there, I took my
Speaker 4: daughter and we were talking about Will Steegers. She wanted
Speaker 4: a pair of Mucklucks, so I took her to get
Speaker 4: her pair, and she was talking about Will Steeger and stuff.
Speaker 4: And we're sitting there in the parking lot. It was
Speaker 4: a really really cold day, kind of like it was
Speaker 4: the other day, forty below. And here comes Will out
Speaker 4: of the store through the parking lot to his car,
Speaker 4: and he looked at me. He slows down, and you know,
Speaker 4: I used to know him really good. He looks at
Speaker 4: me and he's staring at me and Alison. He comes
Speaker 4: to the wind, he goes Doug. It's like my daughter
Speaker 4: got to meet him, and he used to guy. If
Speaker 4: people don't know, he walked unassisted to the North Pole. Amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: tough guy. Yeah, and he did the same in Anna Arctica, so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty impressive. I never met him, but yeah, pretty
Speaker 5: impressive accomplishments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's super nice guy. All right, what do
Speaker 4: we got here? Ah, sorry, we got off. He started
Speaker 4: just we started just doing our own podcast.
Speaker 5: Everybody still there? We started talking, all right.
Speaker 4: So anyhow, hello everybody in chat. We love you. We're
Speaker 4: glad you're here. And yes, we do call you the Antolians. Yes,
Speaker 4: and uh, just you know, Untold Radio is in Facebook
Speaker 4: jail because I used the word science and Tonight's description
Speaker 4: and apparently that's dangerous to society. I noticed that that
Speaker 4: was it was. It was dangerous. It didn't hit community standards.
Speaker 4: And that's just so you know, that's the sickest thing.
Speaker 4: So all you guys are outlaws because you're listening to pirates.
Speaker 4: We're going to talk a little bit about science. Oh
Speaker 4: my god, what I just I read stuff like that
Speaker 4: and I think what teenagers in control? What purple haired
Speaker 4: teenagers and control of this stuff. Anyhow, let's not even
Speaker 4: go there. So anyhow, it's Sunday. It's yeah, it's still
Speaker 4: cold all over the country. So we just hope you
Speaker 4: can like snuggle up to your phone, your computer, and
Speaker 4: then we are going to, uh what we're gonna do
Speaker 4: Tech Day. I got a good tech breakdown, We've got clips,
Speaker 4: We've got even a little audience trivia. We've got a
Speaker 4: great guest, Ryan Edwards tonight. And yes, we are going
Speaker 4: to talk about the forbidden topic of science with Ryan
Speaker 4: the dangerous. It will not meet community standards, I guarantee you. Anyhow,
Speaker 4: I was gonna do some other things, but I think
Speaker 4: that's We'll do our weird and past news. But I
Speaker 4: think I sent you a couple of clips to show
Speaker 4: what it was like here in Minnesota. Here we go
Speaker 4: there Minnesota and forty below and man, it was below
Speaker 4: and I couldn't even keep my jeep on the road.
Speaker 4: It was nuts. So I think that's about well. We Oh,
Speaker 4: there's another clip I think from Russia where they got
Speaker 4: just blasted to with snow on western Russia. Now that's
Speaker 4: not scaled out. Look at that, Look at the look
Speaker 4: at the thing. They had a cut in the road.
Speaker 4: That's something serious. Snow that is not a I this
Speaker 4: is really happened there. And look at that. They had
Speaker 4: snow pedge drifted past twenty story apartment buildings, past the roof.
Speaker 4: So but but they're fine, you know, That's is what
Speaker 4: they deal with. They they just deal with it. They're
Speaker 4: they're they're just fine. They hop they hop out their
Speaker 4: twenty story window and slide down. You know, it's they
Speaker 4: don't think anything of it and anything kind of here.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're pretty used to this crap.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've dealt with a lot of snow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all just get used to it. All right, Well,
Speaker 4: let's get on with our uh weird and fast news
Speaker 4: and fast news. Here we go. It's time for weird
Speaker 4: and fastings.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: For years and years, I have been talking about other
Speaker 4: animals that can see in the UV, and I've always
Speaker 4: suspected Bigfoot has no UV filters, so that means they
Speaker 4: can see UV, so they have more of a primitive eye.
Speaker 4: This is just a theory, but I kind of figured
Speaker 4: that watching bears. That hasn't been an announced yet, but
Speaker 4: I've watched bears like eat one plant and one that
Speaker 4: looks just like it, they'll ignore it and go to
Speaker 4: another plant real far away. Why because I believe they
Speaker 4: can see the protein content using UV vision. Okay, so
Speaker 4: they've just now finally proven the deer can see an
Speaker 4: EV spectrum and one of the things that glows. One
Speaker 4: of the things they use it for is to see scrapes,
Speaker 4: which is just I mean, isn't that fascinating?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet, I mean it scrape. If a scrape,
Speaker 5: that would to go it like crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's a new Research shows that white tailed
Speaker 4: deer have a secret visual language in the woods, one
Speaker 4: humans cannot see without special lights. Scientists in the University
Speaker 4: of Georgia found the deer scrapes ground markings and tree
Speaker 4: rubs where buck scrape bark with their antlers a mint
Speaker 4: a photoluminescent glow under ultra violet light, invisible into the
Speaker 4: human eyes, but very likely obviously they nobody, no scientists
Speaker 4: in the world can jump into a deer's body and
Speaker 4: see exactly what they see, but they do tests that
Speaker 4: deer can very likely see EV light. So there you go. Interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just I was looking at the rest of it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just kind of all the same. But I guarantee
Speaker 4: at some point if we ever get data on Bigfoot,
Speaker 4: and we're going to find out that they also see
Speaker 4: an ev light. What surprised me at all? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 4: Now the next thing exploding trees. So there's viral claims
Speaker 4: all over the internet. I saw stuff on this too,
Speaker 4: people and even our own Weather service warned us. They
Speaker 4: showed a map I got sent to map by the
Speaker 4: Weather Service that showed where the area of exploding tree risk.
Speaker 4: And that's an area usually where the temp drops really quick.
Speaker 4: The trees don't have time to acclimate right so ouse,
Speaker 4: you know, the sap, even in the winter, is moving
Speaker 4: up and down in a tree all the time. So
Speaker 4: it says there a crush? Did I just say a crush?
Speaker 4: Across social media this week, viral claims have circulated that
Speaker 4: an extreme Arctic blast affecting the Upper Midwest could make
Speaker 4: trees explode. Forecasters and weather accounts warned that the frigid
Speaker 4: air plunges temperatures deep below zero, the sap inside the
Speaker 4: tree trunks could freeze and expand and rupture the bark
Speaker 4: with a loud gunshot like sound. It's as meteorologists and
Speaker 4: forest groups explained that what's really going on involves pressure
Speaker 4: from freezing fluids. But basically they were saying that, yeah,
Speaker 4: they don't really explode, blah blah blah blah blah, and
Speaker 4: it's all a myth. But man, did I find a
Speaker 4: lot of footage. I mean, I must have found forty
Speaker 4: clips of exploding trees. And we'll oh, I even sent
Speaker 4: you one. Yep, you see that. We'll just play that
Speaker 4: real quick there. You know, Well, that's not really exploding,
Speaker 4: is it not really?
Speaker 5: That sound isn't quite accurate, I don't think. But no,
Speaker 5: pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Anyhow, So it's some scientists liking it to the noise
Speaker 4: of a bursting pipe. Let's see here, what else we
Speaker 4: have in weird and fans? Another? Take? Tech break Did
Speaker 4: I say take? I have a little million more? No,
Speaker 4: I haven't had much sleep in the last three days.
Speaker 4: Tech breakthrough deer detect Another way to remember, we always
Speaker 4: keep talking about deer detection. It's a problem. I keep
Speaker 4: seeing dead deer along the road and it's not fun.
Speaker 4: So they keep working on technology to try to deal
Speaker 4: with this, to protect the deer and people and the cars.
Speaker 4: Because the insurance companies are funding these studies, you get it. Uh,
Speaker 4: So they keep trying new widgets to stop collisions between
Speaker 4: deer and cars. On the cutting edge of vehicle safety,
Speaker 4: researchers presented a real time deer detection system using thermal
Speaker 4: imaging and deep learning that could could dramatically cut down
Speaker 4: in deer vehicle collisions. Deer collisions cause millions of dollars
Speaker 4: in damage and thou of injuries annually in the US.
Speaker 4: So this innovation piers thermal cameras and connected vehicle tech
Speaker 4: to alert drivers and roadside units within seconds of sensing
Speaker 4: a deer's heat signature. And apparently they did this. They
Speaker 4: used twelve thousand thermal deer images and whatever. But they're
Speaker 4: basically communicating with your car. You'll get a warning car,
Speaker 4: there's a deer nearby, get ready to cross the road.
Speaker 5: So that would be cool, right, Yeah, man, I've had
Speaker 5: so many close calls, and that.
Speaker 4: Way you can slow down. If you're really a bad driver,
Speaker 4: you can speed up at that point, all right. The
Speaker 4: next a strange Dorrito shaped UFO was reported over Area
Speaker 4: fifty one. Say's a mysterious triangular like Dorrito taped aircraft.
Speaker 4: I think Dorito's funded that description I've heard before. That's
Speaker 4: actually with this say. Triangle aircraft was spotted flying at
Speaker 4: night over the controversial US military testing ground at Area
Speaker 4: fifty one in Nevada. The sighting occurred around three am.
Speaker 4: What was captured on video, and of course you can
Speaker 4: see that was a frame taken directly from the video
Speaker 4: right there, exactly. Jeffle vouch for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we wrote there last night, remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: we were.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a ticket one I just can't remember. Yeah. So,
Speaker 4: as observers say, the object had a sharp equilateral triangular shape,
Speaker 4: well listen, yeah, with no visible wings, any unusual rear edge,
Speaker 4: differing from a known aircraft like the B two Spirit bomber.
Speaker 4: Some researchers also noted the appearance of oddly specific snack
Speaker 4: themed radio chatter just before the sighting, though this could
Speaker 4: be military jargon rather than coded messages. So there you go. Interesting.
Speaker 4: That would be a cool. I have not seen a
Speaker 4: giant triangular craft. That would be cool. A guy that
Speaker 4: worked for me he saw one once. He said it
Speaker 4: went over its house and he couldn't really see it,
Speaker 4: but it blocked the stars as it went over, and
Speaker 4: he had gotten up in the middle of n I
Speaker 4: to go have a cigarette. And he saw that and
Speaker 4: he thought, God, I want to think I was dreaming
Speaker 4: in the morning, So I'm gonna flip the lampshade upside down.
Speaker 4: So he did that, and he goes and looks. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: he goes. He does that, and he goes out, looks
Speaker 4: out the front door. He's kind of spooked, right, and
Speaker 4: he claims he sees this giant wheeled vehicle coming down
Speaker 4: his road with aliens walking out in front of it. Wow.
Speaker 4: And I went, well, that must have really got you going.
Speaker 4: I said, did you flip another lamp shade over? He
Speaker 4: goes the eye did so, he flipped two lampshades over it.
Speaker 4: So when he got up in the morning, he knew
Speaker 4: for sure that he had witnesses and it wasn't a dream.
Speaker 4: And yet he doesn't know why he didn't keep watching it.
Speaker 4: All right, just call me sidetracked tonight. Uh, this is
Speaker 4: a weird one. Well, let's go to skip that one.
Speaker 4: Let's go to the next one. A new obelis the
Speaker 4: mysterious RNA, all right. So they found these new obelisk
Speaker 4: things and they're calling them RNA life forms. This is
Speaker 4: interesting and These are found inside humans, and they're actually
Speaker 4: categorizing it as a totally new kind of life. And
Speaker 4: this is found in I think all of our bodies.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you've got a pulling of these, Jeff, don't
Speaker 4: you think? Yeah? Yeah. As a scientists have uncovered a
Speaker 4: completely new class of microscopic genetic entities. I've never heard
Speaker 4: that term maybe genetic just yet. You heard it here
Speaker 4: first people genetic entities living inside the human and living
Speaker 4: inside humans that are so unusual that they're challenging how
Speaker 4: we define life itself. These tiny rod shaped structures, dubbed obelists,
Speaker 4: are made of circular RNA, and we're found in huge
Speaker 4: numbers in the mouse and guts of study volunteers. Unlike
Speaker 4: other unlike like viruses, obelists can carry genetic instructions that
Speaker 4: may code for proteins, blurring the line between innert genetic
Speaker 4: material and something closer to life. So I could read
Speaker 4: a lot more, but you'll have to look it up yoursel. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it makes you kind of inches, doesn't it? So
Speaker 4: what could go wrong? What could go around with a
Speaker 4: genetic obelisk? Millions? I'm running around inside your body?
Speaker 5: Rn E does that's kind of yeah, rny kind of
Speaker 5: gives your body instructions to be.
Speaker 4: Things, so it's weird. Yeah, and then what if they
Speaker 4: can be artificially like, oh, we want this group of
Speaker 4: people to lose, you know, all of their common sense,
Speaker 4: and they inject them with something and suddenly they have
Speaker 4: no more common sense, or they get really super smarter.
Speaker 4: Who knows? Crazy? All right, giant wobbling black hole jet
Speaker 4: up ends galaxy physics. There's an actual picture there, I think, Jeff,
Speaker 4: you took out yourself. Yeah, then actual photograph of.
Speaker 5: Early this morning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a good job, Jeff. Astronomers have spotted
Speaker 4: something truly strange happening in the heart of a distant galaxy.
Speaker 4: Gigantic wobbling jet blasting out from a super massive black hole.
Speaker 4: See that things are supposed to come go into holes,
Speaker 4: not come out. Yeah, that doesn't sound right, says Researchers
Speaker 4: observe the black holes jet oscillating in a direction over time,
Speaker 4: a motion that suggests the black hole itself might be
Speaker 4: twisting or processing in a way. Current models don't fully
Speaker 4: explain this colossal cosmic structure stretches across hundreds of light years.
Speaker 4: That's enough said, stay away from it, stay away, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: what could go wrong? That could go wrong? And that's it.
Speaker 4: That's all I got. Do you want to That orb
Speaker 4: thing was kind of like, eh, whatever. Moving on, all right,
Speaker 4: moving on, word back to the week weird Fact of
Speaker 4: the week.
Speaker 1: It's now time for untold radio weird Fact of the
Speaker 1: week that is kind of weird.
Speaker 4: Hey look at that there I am, Yeah, there you are.
Speaker 4: Well put the damn weird fact up there, you go.
Speaker 4: All right. So it says here that your brain can
Speaker 4: hear silence and it hates it. Is in total silence,
Speaker 4: the brain often hallucinates. And I've experienced that, not hallucinating,
Speaker 4: but feeling uneasy up in the Arctic because you can't
Speaker 4: there's it's I mean, you get a day up there,
Speaker 4: no wind, you can hear your heart beating and it
Speaker 4: drives you crazy. Yeah, it really does. It Just you
Speaker 4: feel you're crawling out of your skin because it was
Speaker 4: so silent up there. Often it says your brain can
Speaker 4: hear silence and it hates it when humans are placed
Speaker 4: in perfectly silent environments. True science like a how do
Speaker 4: you pronounce it, Jeff any coic something like that that
Speaker 4: sounds right, and a coic chamber the brain doesn't. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 4: it's I think we should build one and the charge
Speaker 4: people to go in it.
Speaker 5: That'd be cool. I'd love to see when there's one
Speaker 5: an a lab in Minneapolis that they kind of have
Speaker 5: a running well, they have like a reward for anyone
Speaker 5: that can stay there in hour and no one's everybody
Speaker 5: able to do it?
Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, it says, yeah, it says. The brain
Speaker 4: doesn't relax, it starts to hallucinate. People begin hearing ring voices, music,
Speaker 4: or feeling intense anxiety. See that's what I felt, anxiety
Speaker 4: because the brain is so dependent on sound that without it,
Speaker 4: it starts generating its own noise to fill the void.
Speaker 4: So in experiments, most people can last cannot last more
Speaker 4: than fifteen to twenty minutes in total silence. You're absolutely
Speaker 4: right before perception starts to distort. Absolute quiet doesn't calm
Speaker 4: the mind, it destabilizes it.
Speaker 5: It's not natural nothing, I mean in nature, you're never
Speaker 5: going to have that happen.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of well, yeah, I just said you
Speaker 4: did hear. Yeah. Actually I had a Native American because
Speaker 4: it was a really calm day and it was guy's
Speaker 4: name was Nap. It was the guy that the movie
Speaker 4: Never cry Wolf. The native guy in that movie was
Speaker 4: based on Oh cool. And he took me out and
Speaker 4: he goes, you need to experience this, this whole change
Speaker 4: your life. And he took me and he dropped me
Speaker 4: off probably you know, ten miles where he was going,
Speaker 4: and I had to stay there for like three hours.
Speaker 4: And he said, I'll pick you up and he'll be
Speaker 4: a different person. Yeah, and I was. I could hear
Speaker 4: a morment scratching its balls probably five five miles away.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was weird. And then they would go silent,
Speaker 4: and there was nothing except my own heart. You could
Speaker 4: hear that boom just oh, Ichy drew me nuts. All right.
Speaker 4: That's it on the Weird and Weird Fact of the week.
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't think about that silence. What
Speaker 4: do we want to do. We've got Ryan in the
Speaker 4: back room. Hey, Ryan, how are you at Wave? I
Speaker 4: have not met Ryan. Some looking forward to it. Let's
Speaker 4: see here, let's do this. We have we've kind of
Speaker 4: been ignoring our poor audience. I have. We've got a
Speaker 4: great crowd, even though I've been in even though we
Speaker 4: couldn't Untold Radio couldn't do any marketing this week because
Speaker 4: we're such a danger to society, right, What did it say?
Speaker 4: Were something about, yeah, we have to keep that, we
Speaker 4: have to keep Facebook safe. So that's why we couldn't
Speaker 4: advertise because everybody was in danger. Yes, we're obviously. Uh,
Speaker 4: oh my god, you're gonna sick, Alex sick on them.
Speaker 4: I'm not dealing with those jokers. No thanks. Let's see here.
Speaker 6: What do we got?
Speaker 4: Should we do trivia? Who wants to do some? It's
Speaker 4: kind of fun, baby animal trivia. It's just a name.
Speaker 4: Let's do that real quick.
Speaker 1: It's now time for untold Radio a m audience trivia?
Speaker 4: Who wants to play? So? Who's gonna? Who's gonna? So
Speaker 4: I'm waiting, We're waiting. Who wants to do this? It's
Speaker 4: not a contest, even says right there, See Jeff, we
Speaker 4: got official. Look it's official at the bottom of a contest. Yes, official,
Speaker 4: Come on, who wants to play some trivia?
Speaker 5: It's pretty good. I actually this is a fun one too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what we'll do. Ryan, do you wanna
Speaker 4: do you wanna? Do you want to do play against
Speaker 4: an audience member? Sway if you do, He's like her. No,
Speaker 4: but I will Yeah, what the hell? So okay, I'll
Speaker 4: interview you can come on, but I'm gonna introduce you
Speaker 4: later officially.
Speaker 5: And he'll come on on a little Ryan sneak peak. Ryan.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, Hey, Ryan's good to meet you, good to
Speaker 4: be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So any know, we got the opposite problem with Ryan.
Speaker 4: We got a really did Mike on Ryan. Yeah we
Speaker 4: had a guest last week, Ryan, and we couldn't hear him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a good thing.
Speaker 6: I moved closer some echoing earlier. But hope I'm coming
Speaker 6: in well now.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, I would say loud and clear. Anyhow, Okay,
Speaker 4: so who who wants to play? Ryan? People are going
Speaker 4: hi Ryan, who wants to play? Is Lee want to play?
Speaker 4: Is Loretta does? Is there anybody else there named Ryan
Speaker 4: want to play? Ryan?
Speaker 5: Makes you just volunteered?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she goes, I could, but I didn't win.
Speaker 5: It's not a contest.
Speaker 4: I didn't win. Then we'll go ahead and dry again. Sure,
Speaker 4: we just don't want winners keep coming back and well
Speaker 4: we'll have not a prize exactly, all right, Ryan, So
Speaker 4: this is on just the animal names. Maybe animal names. Okay,
Speaker 4: So the.
Speaker 5: First question we got rogue here too. We're gonna broke
Speaker 5: special agent r.
Speaker 4: Gonna Okay, so we got three got all right, we
Speaker 4: got a three way, we got Ryan, we got we
Speaker 4: got rogue and okay, all right, baby animal names, there's
Speaker 4: a course question. What is the name for a baby hedgehog?
Speaker 4: Now I can give you the names and then you
Speaker 4: can choose the thing. I'll do that make it easier.
Speaker 4: Is it hoglet? Is it a prickle? Is it a
Speaker 4: hedge lit? Or spike for a baby hedgehog? And so
Speaker 4: it's a hoglet, B prickle, see heglutt or d spike? Ryan,
Speaker 4: do you want to go first? What's your guests? I'll
Speaker 4: be okay, So I want to write that down. We
Speaker 4: got okay, so Ryan picked B. All right, and what's
Speaker 4: next here? She said? Spiked? Okay, what does rogue say?
Speaker 4: And rogue? If you don't answer quick, you're not We're
Speaker 4: just gonna go. I'm gonna get you a buzzer. Jeff,
Speaker 4: tick tick tick tick tick tick.
Speaker 5: Times that move on?
Speaker 4: All right? All right? Where's that music? I hate? M
Speaker 4: all right? I don't know what happened to Jeff. He's
Speaker 4: just like you hit the wrong button. I think. All right, Oh,
Speaker 4: he's back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got booted somehow.
Speaker 4: You know you didn't get booted. Do you get the
Speaker 4: wrong button?
Speaker 5: So, I don't think so, just bounced out alright.
Speaker 4: But so the answer, the correct answer is did David
Speaker 4: come through with an answer? I don't see it. I
Speaker 4: don't see David's answer. Okay, the right answer is a
Speaker 4: it is hoglet. So Ryan or Mingsy did not get
Speaker 4: it right. Question two, what does what do you call
Speaker 4: a baby swan? And I am not going to give
Speaker 4: you guys, do you just have to tell me? So, Ryan,
Speaker 4: you gotta go first, So just take a take a guess.
Speaker 4: What do I call a baby swan?
Speaker 6: Swanlet?
Speaker 4: Swanlet? Okay? And Mingsy, what would you say? Or David
Speaker 4: just go ahead and throw some names out there. Legoes, uh,
Speaker 4: and David you were wrong? Spike he said spike for
Speaker 4: the last one. Anyhow, what do you call baby swan?
Speaker 4: And says swan lit? Okay, It's amazing how the internet
Speaker 4: delays things. Yeah, yeah, signet and it is a signet
Speaker 4: spelled with a C.
Speaker 5: Makes he gets a point for that one makes you
Speaker 5: on the boards.
Speaker 4: He's on the board. She got one? Okay, God, all right, next. Uh,
Speaker 4: this one's a hard one. What do you call a
Speaker 4: baby platypus? What do you call a baby platypus? Is
Speaker 4: it a pup? Is it a kit?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 4: Is it a puggle? Or is it a Joey? So
Speaker 4: it's a pup B kit? C puggle and D joey?
Speaker 4: What do you call a baby platypus? Ryan, it's not
Speaker 4: as we call it a joey. I don't know. I'll
Speaker 4: go with I'll go with Joey Joey. Okay, okay? So
Speaker 4: Ryan is uh picking d okay?
Speaker 5: And let's say, let's see and Minxy max you the answer?
Speaker 5: Come on, Manxy like everyone's legging tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the internet's I think we lost a
Speaker 4: lot of internet chains the cold weather. All right, so
Speaker 4: the correct answer is puggle. She's got two points now
Speaker 4: everybody else zero? All right? Here we go. Question four?
Speaker 4: What is the correct name for a baby donkey? Is
Speaker 4: it a coult, A A foal, B A philly c
Speaker 4: or D A jack? So a is cold be as
Speaker 4: full as philly? And D is jack? Jack? Yeah? Jack?
Speaker 4: D Jack? So what do you think Ryan? Your first? Jack? Jack? Okay?
Speaker 5: Jack?
Speaker 4: And who else is? He said?
Speaker 5: Jack, Now we're waiting for.
Speaker 4: Joel says fall. Oh. Minxy says Jack, right, and do
Speaker 4: we get David's answering? Rog said, which is full and
Speaker 4: Rogue is right right? Did he get too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's two for rogue to FORX.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I know some people are I'm not. It's like
Speaker 4: I failed the test too, so that gave it to
Speaker 4: me yesterday and I completely fail. I got too right
Speaker 4: out of the old test. So don't feel bad, Ryan, Okay,
Speaker 4: So and this stuff is like that doesn't really make it, smarters,
Speaker 4: it's kind of fun.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: Question five. A baby porcupine line is called a spike
Speaker 4: B pricklet, see a hog lit or D a pork
Speaker 4: You pup a spike B pricklet CE hoglet or D
Speaker 4: porky pop. That's a tough one to say, Ryan, I.
Speaker 6: Think I'm at this point. I'm just saying, what's the
Speaker 6: cutest name. I think pup pork pop.
Speaker 4: Okay, Ryan says D porky pop and Mary says ce.
Speaker 4: Marion says D laces D.
Speaker 5: See brokes D porky pop. What does Minxy say?
Speaker 4: Also says Hi, Kenny, they delivered, and Marion Alsen said high. Honey,
Speaker 4: we have a very friendly in the air minx. He said,
Speaker 4: see Hogan, Well, no one is right, unfortunately, no, Where's
Speaker 4: whereppened to mister rogue or rogue agent.
Speaker 5: Broke to DK porky pop oh And the answer is Jeff,
Speaker 5: it's a pricklet.
Speaker 4: That's a nice name to call somebody.
Speaker 5: I just want to address this comment here, Michael. That
Speaker 5: is not what's going on. We actually looked for volunteers
Speaker 5: and the first couple that volunteered her and so if
Speaker 5: you were watching at the right time, you could have
Speaker 5: been one of the volunteers as well. Yes, sir, you
Speaker 5: know there's no special membership. It's just the first couple
Speaker 5: of people to speak up. That's what happened. It's not
Speaker 5: a contest, not a contest. There's no price, no prize.
Speaker 5: It's not a contest, although I might mill.
Speaker 4: The win or something if I want, if I want
Speaker 4: to maybe.
Speaker 5: Not a price, not a contest.
Speaker 6: The prize is knowledge learn We all win.
Speaker 4: Okay, what are we got next? Just give me a
Speaker 4: sec here, all right, this is question six. What do
Speaker 4: you call a baby frog? Hey, tadpole, B, polly wog,
Speaker 4: C froglet or d I'm not telling you what is.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna tell you what is. I shouldn't even
Speaker 4: have mentioned just forget there. Yeah, okay, d is all
Speaker 4: of the above? Yeah, D good Tadpole froglet, All of
Speaker 4: the above could be a trick question, Ryan Good multiple
Speaker 4: reds Tadpole D Ryan David.
Speaker 5: Answer is and the answer is D all above. So
Speaker 5: a point for Ryan and a point for.
Speaker 4: What else? Said D Tadpole? Yeah's last one?
Speaker 5: Don't Yeah makes you three points? Rogue with two, Ryan
Speaker 5: with one.
Speaker 4: Okay, the next one, the next one. Nobody's gonna get.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna all I'm gonna do is say what is.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give you a multiple choice. A baby
Speaker 4: puffin goes by what name? A baby puffing bird? They
Speaker 4: live like in Nova Scotia some of the Northern Rocky
Speaker 4: Coast line. I've never seen a puffin in real life
Speaker 4: for some reason, I don't know that I have either.
Speaker 4: They're so cool looking to see one. I've been in
Speaker 4: puffin areas, must never saw one. Anyhow, They're my favorite birden.
Speaker 4: But what do you call a puffin? Ryan? Take a guess?
Speaker 4: Pufflet me? Yeah, pufflet? Pufflet? Okay, Ryan says, pufflet.
Speaker 5: Makes you said puff lit too?
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 6: It just sounds to basic.
Speaker 4: H it is. Come on, rogue, you're about to be this.
Speaker 4: You're getting the three second count down?
Speaker 5: Sure, why not? It's not right, but it's pretty.
Speaker 4: It is called a puffling. Hm hmm a puffling p
Speaker 4: U F F L I n G puff all right,
Speaker 4: And then the next one, I think everybody might probably
Speaker 4: know the answer. Yea, what is a baby kangaroo called?
Speaker 4: Is it a cop? Be a pup? See a joey
Speaker 4: d a rootlet? This is the official name? What do
Speaker 4: you call a baby kangaroo? Up? And what are you
Speaker 4: saying there? Ryan? Ye Joe? Joe.
Speaker 5: He thinks he has the most points but didn't win
Speaker 5: anything because on a contest. So if you want to
Speaker 5: accidentally makes he send me your contact information. I know
Speaker 5: you've said it before, send yeh send it again and
Speaker 5: you might might not not really a contest.
Speaker 4: Okay, anyhow, moving on, Yeah, moving on. Let's see here
Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking with Brian in ef few just
Speaker 4: a few minutes here, and I cannot wait too. All right,
Speaker 4: let's do clip Hicks of the week. Well, this is
Speaker 4: zip through them really quick. You can even cut them
Speaker 4: off short, all of them clips. All right, here we go.
Speaker 4: All right, frozen rain is no fun. It just happened
Speaker 4: all over the country. But go ahead and show this
Speaker 4: because it'll make you a brand new one. Ice is
Speaker 4: still there. I actually done that. That's it's so fun.
Speaker 4: All right? All right? Clip two. This is a really
Speaker 4: cool Okay, I really want to do this, and let's
Speaker 4: just do it real quick, good and play it. But
Speaker 4: I gonna cut you off. This is friend, He's got
Speaker 4: this incredible Jeff, this is a and everybody. This is
Speaker 4: a listing of a fifty million dollar home in Minnesota.
Speaker 4: So if you had fifty million, why would you want
Speaker 4: to live? Here's first, no question. But it is an
Speaker 4: insane cool home. But I couldn't imagine owning something like that, right,
Speaker 4: could you own something this big and this crazy? How
Speaker 4: would you want it? You'd have to have one hundred
Speaker 4: people to clean it. Go ahead, go ahead and run it.
Speaker 4: Let's go check this out.
Speaker 7: So there's actually two sets of gates here at this
Speaker 7: home just to get to this estate.
Speaker 9: Here.
Speaker 5: This is an unbelievable entrance.
Speaker 7: You're welcomed here by two guesthouses. Obviously gorgeous all four
Speaker 7: seasons in Minnesota.
Speaker 4: I mean going over a bridge to your property here
Speaker 4: in the lake. This feels like we're headed to our resort,
Speaker 4: like our private resort. This is crazy.
Speaker 7: So you're about thirty thousand square feet.
Speaker 5: This is quite the entrance.
Speaker 7: It's exquisite. I mean honestly, walking in here, it's these
Speaker 7: views are unlike anything you'll ever see on another property
Speaker 7: in Minnesota. So the marble piece actually pushes back and
Speaker 7: goes up into the wall and then the TV comes forward,
Speaker 7: cooking entertaining space. There are multiple hidden prep kitches throughout
Speaker 7: the home as well. This is the start of the
Speaker 7: primary sweet wing.
Speaker 4: This entire this entire wing.
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely gorgeous, stunning views. Every rooms has its own
Speaker 7: kind of flavor and personality, yet they blend really well
Speaker 7: together and that's a really unique thing to see. And
Speaker 7: a build this large. There's a panic room here that
Speaker 7: is bulletproof. B this is bulletproof, and there's a bed
Speaker 7: in here, so in case you actually want to watch
Speaker 7: TV and here you can. But but it doesn't block
Speaker 7: it doesn't block space for all the grandkids, cousins, guests,
Speaker 7: all the kids to sleep. The best hiding spaces for
Speaker 7: hide and seek, hide and go seek in this home.
Speaker 5: I don't think you're ever going to be found. This
Speaker 5: is incredible.
Speaker 4: I mean right away, you have a whole workout, I know, so.
Speaker 5: You literally can come in here and do everything.
Speaker 7: This area right here is amazing.
Speaker 4: And it deserves its own moment.
Speaker 7: Okay, so two things.
Speaker 3: Do not walk into that That is glass.
Speaker 6: I have done it.
Speaker 7: It's so embarrassing. So this is the entrance actually into
Speaker 7: the salt cave.
Speaker 4: Wow, got pool? We've just.
Speaker 5: Everybody have one.
Speaker 4: I'm going to.
Speaker 7: Do.
Speaker 6: Where are we even going?
Speaker 4: This feels like we're going into the past right now.
Speaker 7: The walls, those staircases are all were upside down tree.
Speaker 4: So you come down and you lost.
Speaker 7: One.
Speaker 8: I mean for starters.
Speaker 7: I used to be in a bowling league. Come on, okay,
Speaker 7: I'm super competitive.
Speaker 4: You're good at golf as well. Then I love Jeff.
Speaker 4: You forgot to add a bowling allie. You can here
Speaker 4: property boat house. You know the water. This one is
Speaker 4: more elevated. I don't think there's no class of wine,
Speaker 4: but I would have to say this might be one
Speaker 4: of the top picks for me. You drive past, this
Speaker 4: is an experience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's enough. I don't know how would you even
Speaker 5: I don't even know how you live in.
Speaker 4: A once in a while, you know, you run into
Speaker 4: those and you're just like watch it and go. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean you'd need a full time staff just to
Speaker 5: maintain the house.
Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't mind a garage.
Speaker 10: You that big?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that three thousand foot garage. I mean, I
Speaker 5: have no problem with that.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll try to manifest it. Let's see here. What
Speaker 4: have we got?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: Clip three? Sound is good. This is just a copulation
Speaker 4: of weird sounds. I think you're still in that house.
Speaker 4: Clip three? What happened? Jeff? We froze? Ryan waiver? Well,
Speaker 4: there we go. What happened Jeff? What's going on? I
Speaker 4: don't know?
Speaker 5: I had it playing? Here we go again.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 4: H that's pretty good. This pretty m hm h m
Speaker 4: hm mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 4: This is for a radio audience. He his bike. Nice
Speaker 4: You just throw a pringles can at his wife? How
Speaker 4: nice is that? Are you married? Ryan?
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 4: You're not well good. You don't have anybody to throw
Speaker 4: a pringles can at them?
Speaker 6: Think that's pretty common sense, I'll hope so at least.
Speaker 4: All right, we got let's see uh uh strange art
Speaker 4: clip five? Clip five? Yeah, sound is fine? This is
Speaker 4: just really weird. Just played for a second. Squinch your
Speaker 4: eyes look at this image with your eyes almost closed.
Speaker 6: Let me know in the comments, who you see.
Speaker 4: I'm sure we all have had time to see that.
Speaker 4: All right, don't do the next one? Who has time
Speaker 4: for this kind of weird art? Fascinating? But okay, let
Speaker 4: do this now? Who gets the idea to do this? Hmmm? Crazy?
Speaker 4: There he goes? All right, enough, and then the last one,
Speaker 4: the guy does he tries to make.
Speaker 5: Come through at what that was the best one?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, hold on, you know what?
Speaker 4: Hold on? I can find it's a guy now I
Speaker 4: wants to son a big deal. It's a guy that
Speaker 4: goes out and he photographs garbage and then he tries
Speaker 4: to make himself look like the piece of garbage he photographed,
Speaker 4: even if it's blown in the wind. And he does
Speaker 4: a really creative job. But it must have taken him
Speaker 4: forever to do this video. What Yeah, I got it
Speaker 4: here all right? See at the bottom, that's the garbage,
Speaker 4: the bottom of the car. He does a really good job,
Speaker 4: Like who does this.
Speaker 5: Even think of that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 6: That's what I want and all emotion too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got that down perfectly. I'm just like, oh
Speaker 4: that's crazy, all right, Oh that fun? Who has time?
Speaker 4: And then let's see Clip six sounds good. This is
Speaker 4: the it's really just a second. It is the spark. Now,
Speaker 4: it's been rumored, but they've proven that when in the
Speaker 4: egg is fertilized, at the moment of fertilization, it puts
Speaker 4: out a zinc powered spark. Go ahead. Actually they can
Speaker 4: record this sound of it now too. Is that easy? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've seen a couple of clips like that. It's yeah,
Speaker 4: it produces sound and light the moment it's fertilized. A
Speaker 4: something going on there, yes, definitely something going on. Clip seven.
Speaker 4: This is just a very cool illusion. Take about a
Speaker 4: second to see it so you can see it was
Speaker 4: just it's image. It's where it's wiming. Alright, Nat all right?
Speaker 4: Clip a Yeah, and this is on a acoustical levitation
Speaker 4: and it's another experiment. I find this really fascinating. Clipid.
Speaker 8: I'd like to show you an example of let hitting
Speaker 8: small objects with sound waves. So these sound waves move
Speaker 8: upward and up above. I have a glass plate which
Speaker 8: is going to reflect the sound back down again. And
Speaker 8: when the distance between the glass plate and the loudspeaker
Speaker 8: is just right, then those sound waves that are moving
Speaker 8: down will interfere constructively with the sound waves coming up
Speaker 8: and give us regions of high pressure and low pressure
Speaker 8: which don't move around. They stay in one spot.
Speaker 4: You don't even hear.
Speaker 8: As I said before, the distance between the reflector and
Speaker 8: the loud speaker is just right. If I change it,
Speaker 8: and which I'm going to do, you'll see that this
Speaker 8: standing wave disappears and the falls are no longer suspended.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 8: We've now set up the little loudspeaker and the reflector
Speaker 8: in front of this mirror, which is part of our
Speaker 8: shle or optics set up, and to be able to
Speaker 8: actually see where.
Speaker 4: The crapo of that crap. All right, cool, it is cool.
Speaker 4: Acoustical levitation. Uh clip nine sounds good. H This is
Speaker 4: coming to a town near you're We are getting this.
Speaker 4: Many coyotes that are running around everywhere. But here's here's
Speaker 4: a case where they follow with dogs. This is happening.
Speaker 4: I'm reading reports weekly. Did you finish with my dog?
Speaker 4: You feel danger weird, very weird? All right? Do you
Speaker 4: have a lot of coyotes where you are, Ryan, goot
Speaker 4: them out.
Speaker 6: But I live in the city, so not as much.
Speaker 6: I'm honestly, here we get like lapostles, raccoons, but a
Speaker 6: lot of deer in town.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're adapting. Okay, clip ten. This is just
Speaker 4: a sounds good. It's just a hague fish, but it's
Speaker 4: really cool footage of it. What a strange creatures amazing.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 4: You know, Ryan, all the creatures that you study in cryptozoology,
Speaker 4: I'd say the hague fish is even weirder, wouldn't you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: People forget how amazing the natural world is, Like, hey,
Speaker 6: look at bi aluminescence things like that. Like there are animals.
Speaker 6: If you didn't know they exist, they look alien to us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, people use that as an argument
Speaker 5: against a lot of cryptids. They just think they're too
Speaker 5: bizarre to exist. And I'm like, you've seen the world.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's some crazy animals out there. Yeah, why
Speaker 5: can't there be more that we just don't know about yet?
Speaker 6: I go to h mis Beagle and go dredge up
Speaker 6: the bottom of the ocean, see what's down there, and
Speaker 6: some of those animals look completely into what we would
Speaker 6: even think about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, well not they look alien, but they operate
Speaker 4: in an alien way. Their physiology, they have different kinds
Speaker 4: of many of them have different kinds of blood, different
Speaker 4: kinds of hearts, yes, brains, just everything is bizarre, like
Speaker 4: a squid. Like they have a LCD screen on their skin.
Speaker 4: You know, they have a television screen on their skin.
Speaker 4: It's so bizarre. All right, So we're gonna take it
Speaker 4: just a real quick break. It's wait two minutes and
Speaker 4: then we're gonna bring you on full. I'm gonna introduce
Speaker 4: your Ryan. We're gonna get into it. Of course, stand
Speaker 4: by they.
Speaker 10: That's why I pray to the good of there, please
Speaker 10: listen to my soul.
Speaker 11: Pay if I should die before this water, please letting.
Speaker 10: My soul remain here older, say heaven for the fall
Speaker 10: and soul.
Speaker 11: Before they deserve to go home first.
Speaker 4: The heaven gates will open wide.
Speaker 10: When I get there, I'll stands side figure out best,
Speaker 10: South says, drive mud on the tires, radio crackling hat
Speaker 10: smells like a.
Speaker 4: Half burned campfire.
Speaker 2: Burger king rappers by her feet.
Speaker 4: She just laughed and said, boy, you live out and free.
Speaker 10: There's a five year of cocaine, rattling around rusty tackle box,
Speaker 10: a couple of missing wrenches.
Speaker 2: I never found stuff.
Speaker 10: I won't ever find that.
Speaker 4: Old jeeves a miss. But she didn't see the money.
Speaker 10: She brushed my arms, stirred up my already dirty mind.
Speaker 10: It ain't no Cadillac, but it's mine.
Speaker 2: Right now if she's right place, right time.
Speaker 3: And my dirty jees smell like mud and gasoline, no
Speaker 3: ty shirt seats.
Speaker 11: And on that bes too fast with head next to me.
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Speaker 4: H Man, we're back, and we are back, and I'm
Speaker 4: going to introduce see how we put them right back
Speaker 4: in the back room. And by the way I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do We're gonna do tech breakdown where we're going to
Speaker 4: do it with Ryan. So we have tech breakdown coming
Speaker 4: and uh, we'll do that right kind of it towards
Speaker 4: maybe the end of his interview, but I want to
Speaker 4: get his feedback. All right, So, Ryan, who the hell
Speaker 4: is Ryan Edwards? Who's this guy that we just brought
Speaker 4: on blind to play trivia? So he is a cryptozoologist
Speaker 4: from San Antonio, Texas. At a young age of twenty,
Speaker 4: he released his first book, Cryptims of the World. He
Speaker 4: has since released his second and third book, Sasquatch a
Speaker 4: pre History and Beyond Bigfoot. Ryan us cryptozoology as the
Speaker 4: naughty word scientific. He thinks it's a scientific field. I
Speaker 4: think so do but Facebook doesn't. They think that's naughty.
Speaker 4: And he brings in a biological based perspective onto a
Speaker 4: field that is many times seen as pseudoscience. Ryan travels
Speaker 4: around the country educating others about his amazing interest in
Speaker 4: this field. So let's welcome as Ryan Edwards.
Speaker 5: Welcome back.
Speaker 6: Ryan, Hi, Hey, guys, special intro. So it's good to
Speaker 6: be here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, long time, and I'll see. Do you know a
Speaker 4: lot about baby animals?
Speaker 7: I know?
Speaker 4: Okay, we won't talk about baby animals and okay, So
Speaker 4: first question is some people kind of know where they stand,
Speaker 4: do you think most that includes Bigfoot and probably the
Speaker 4: the the more popular cryptids Bigfoot, what is it? The Bigfoot,
Speaker 4: dog Man, moth Man, those are probably the top three,
Speaker 4: would you agree.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say, especially for North America. Yeah, it was
Speaker 6: like the Big three.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you think they're flesh and blood or something else?
Speaker 6: So with me, I come at it from a flesher
Speaker 6: bout perspective, but I think it's a mix a bow
Speaker 6: for instance, Mothman and dog man.
Speaker 4: They we come at it from an idea.
Speaker 6: Of biologically, it's improbable for both of those animals to exist,
Speaker 6: but people still see them, so there's something else. Yeah,
Speaker 6: last watch when you break it down anatomically, morph the morphology,
Speaker 6: the behavior sets the ecology. It makes sense biologically, but
Speaker 6: if you think of an eight foot tall bipedal wolf,
Speaker 6: the leg structure alone doesn't work biologically. Uh, Mothman for instance,
Speaker 6: people see a winged humanoid, which with six limbs doesn't
Speaker 6: exist with vertebrates. And so it's a kind of a
Speaker 6: mix of both the flesh and blood and more panormal
Speaker 6: side of this research.
Speaker 4: But what if it did? I mean, I've thought about
Speaker 4: this too the same way you're thinking. Doesn't make any
Speaker 4: biological sense, But yet what if it did? And what
Speaker 4: if you know what I mean, we actually end up
Speaker 4: with a body someday and we're sitting going, well, that
Speaker 4: interview didn't age well.
Speaker 6: And see, that's the thing to you that I bring in,
Speaker 6: especially with like cryptology and panormal research, and total is
Speaker 6: like Joininger's cat until it's measured. It's all things at once.
Speaker 6: That's why, for instance, like with cryptozoology, yes I come
Speaker 6: at it from a biological perspective, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 6: I'm right. I could be wrong all day long. I
Speaker 6: could be saying the wrong stuff right now, and this
Speaker 6: interview is going to be taking ten years later and
Speaker 6: throwing out the window. But exact it's still it's still
Speaker 6: my perspective, right. I believe everyone's views and everyone's perspective
Speaker 6: should be brought in because like with any type of puzzle,
Speaker 6: all the pieces need to be here, and with different
Speaker 6: perspectives we bring in those different pieces.
Speaker 4: Well, let's just say there is such a thing as
Speaker 4: like these are lawn Strickler calls them ultra terrestrials. Are
Speaker 4: you familiar with that? Yes, a category of cryptis what
Speaker 4: if these are ultra terrestrials and it's just something we
Speaker 4: don't know anything about. But they're also very flesh and blood,
Speaker 4: but they have a way of popping in and popping out,
Speaker 4: you know, because of whatever ability. Who knows, maybe they
Speaker 4: don't even do it consciously. Right, What if there's a
Speaker 4: parallel universe that has you know, lakes and woods and
Speaker 4: they have that kind of different evolution. Every once in
Speaker 4: a while they kind of slide over a nerd dimension
Speaker 4: and they don't even have any control over it, and
Speaker 4: they're like, what's going you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of idea of like, maybe not the
Speaker 6: idea of is it flesh and blood? But is an earthly?
Speaker 6: Is it something that evolved and adapted here on Earth? Right,
Speaker 6: maybe like for instance, psychic Mothman or dog Man and
Speaker 6: other cryptos, maybe they all flesh and blood. But like
Speaker 6: what you said, from somewhere else, somewhere well where dad
Speaker 6: anatomy and dad morphology makes sense. And maybe that's the
Speaker 6: idea of like certain because I believe, at least from
Speaker 6: my perspective, that some of these cryptids off from somewhere else,
Speaker 6: like they are from maybe extraterrestrial, two dimensional. But that
Speaker 6: bens in the idea too that if you researching cryptids
Speaker 6: and they're coming from a portal, then you have to
Speaker 6: research the portal and a cryptid. It adds in a
Speaker 6: lot more research to it because if you're saying Bakfoot's
Speaker 6: coming from a UFO, didn't you have to prove the
Speaker 6: Bigfoot exists and the UFO exists at the same time.
Speaker 4: Right, did you? I don't know if you're a student
Speaker 4: of John Keel, I'm not really, but I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm aware of it where he kind of
Speaker 4: thinks all this weird stuff is all connected, including Bigfoot,
Speaker 4: Like even all cryptids are connected into this. Uh what
Speaker 4: did flat rockland? Right? Pair of physical bean or paraphysical object?
Speaker 4: And does your mind explode? Start? They give all the
Speaker 4: possibilities to.
Speaker 6: An extent because like, that's the type of thing that
Speaker 6: I bring into is like with cryptids, there's a subset
Speaker 6: I could call paracryptozoology. Oh, paracryptids, these cryptids that you
Speaker 6: truly know cannot be like something that altered on Earth,
Speaker 6: things like a dog man phenomena, I'm off man, even
Speaker 6: things like some of these people saying bigfoots that are
Speaker 6: coming out of portals and things like that. And that's
Speaker 6: why I like to kind of compedmentalize it, but also
Speaker 6: have it's still connected. It's kind of bringing in different
Speaker 6: perspectives and knowing that. Okay, so what's the flesh and blood?
Speaker 6: That's my research, but there is other things going on
Speaker 6: and I'm not I.
Speaker 4: Why I can't, But but Ryan, why couldn't an alterterrestrial
Speaker 4: have be flesh and blood, have heart and flesh and blood?
Speaker 4: And you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Well, I don't mean that flesh and blood accidents, not
Speaker 6: flesh and blood. I mean more in perspective that it's
Speaker 6: adhering to earth flee biological processes. Okay, okay, yeah, earthly
Speaker 6: evolutionary processes.
Speaker 4: That's okay. So uh and that made perfect sense the
Speaker 4: way you explained it. So you're open to like a
Speaker 4: creature from another dimension popping in and you yeah, I
Speaker 4: think they're because they must be flesh and blood. I mean,
Speaker 4: isn't Yes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Because for instance, with by the dog Man phenomena, there's
Speaker 6: plenty of signs with them eating roadkill and then yeah,
Speaker 6: going over bob wire and leaving hair hair and things
Speaker 6: like that. So there is something purposeful biological going on there.
Speaker 6: But is Earth flu isn't on Earth?
Speaker 4: For instance?
Speaker 6: Maybe if it's coming from somewhere else, maybe if that
Speaker 6: dimension or that other plane that's coming from Maybe it's
Speaker 6: still physical in that perspective, and this universe too, but
Speaker 6: maybe in that one it makes sense that's bipedal in
Speaker 6: some way somehow, But here on our known biological processes,
Speaker 6: it doesn't make sense here well, I mean our ear
Speaker 6: flee sense.
Speaker 4: So okay, did you get interested in this topic because
Speaker 4: of an experience or a story that one of your
Speaker 4: your grandparents told you, or was it just you were
Speaker 4: just kind of born with it? And like me, I
Speaker 4: kind of think back, why was I really interested in
Speaker 4: this and why was I kind of open to the idea?
Speaker 4: And I think probably the first time I heard about bigfoot,
Speaker 4: I think it scared me. I mean, did it scare
Speaker 4: you as a child, you know what I mean? Kind
Speaker 4: of unsettle you because suddenly there's a little bit more out.
Speaker 6: There, kind of to an extent, because you have that
Speaker 6: idea of the fear of the unknown. But then once
Speaker 6: you research, it's the unknown is no longer the unknown,
Speaker 6: it's now the known. But how I got into this
Speaker 6: field was as a young kid. Like most people. It's
Speaker 6: when you talk to most people in here in this research,
Speaker 6: most people started a young age. I was, of course,
Speaker 6: like any young kid, loved dinosaurs, loved monsters, loved animals.
Speaker 6: And I found a perfect career in cryptosology because it
Speaker 6: makes us a little bit of all of them. And
Speaker 6: one of my earliest memories is of this. I was
Speaker 6: believed five or six years old, sitting on my couch
Speaker 6: in my living room, and as a kid, I guess
Speaker 6: I was the weird kid. I watched History Channel a lot.
Speaker 6: I watched History Channel on the news and stuff, and
Speaker 6: Monster Crest came on and it was a Thunderbird episode
Speaker 6: and it was one of the writteness replications and see
Speaker 6: the thunderbird cross the screen, and at that point I
Speaker 6: knew monsters are real. Okay, there's something out there.
Speaker 4: That we don't know.
Speaker 6: And I started going to my library at my school
Speaker 6: and picking out all the big Foot books, all the
Speaker 6: Yetti books and all that, and started learning more about
Speaker 6: this and realizing, Okay, there is a field to them.
Speaker 6: And at that point, as a kid, I loved animals. Okay,
Speaker 6: let's bring in the animal side into this. Well, how
Speaker 6: can I bring in ideas of later on primatology, paleontology,
Speaker 6: things like that into this field and see that there's
Speaker 6: a lot of correlations where there shouldn't be if these
Speaker 6: animals aren't real, if these things aren't real, and wider
Speaker 6: correlations between known biological processes and the suppose are not
Speaker 6: real monsters in the woods.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you did have a little bit of that
Speaker 4: fear mode, like, and I have to relate it to
Speaker 4: like your dad, your five. Your dad says, go on
Speaker 4: and get the mail or gone, and You're just like,
Speaker 4: I can't do that. I just found out about bigfoot,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's the fear of like the fear of
Speaker 6: the unknown. And I because that's a thing that's kind
Speaker 6: of funny with me, is because I didn't have a
Speaker 6: lot of first time I've never really I've never had
Speaker 6: a big foot sighting or siding with a crypto or
Speaker 6: anthing that because I live in Santaia, Texas, a big,
Speaker 6: big city, So I don't think that, oh, there's a
Speaker 6: big foot outside my window now because I'm living in
Speaker 6: the middle of the city right now. But when I
Speaker 6: do go out in the wilderness things like that, I
Speaker 6: don't have the fear of something like that happening. But
Speaker 6: I do have the kind of like, Okay, I might
Speaker 6: know that. Okay, everyone feels about bears and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: I might be the guy that want to go camp. Okay,
Speaker 6: maybe we should worry about Bigfoot now because I that's
Speaker 6: where my research is and bringing that perspective.
Speaker 4: Although you're your home city could have moth been flocking
Speaker 4: around waiting to snatch it. That's always a possibility. People
Speaker 4: are Icago now, great city. Yeah, they've seen him. Put
Speaker 4: they're seeing them in Chicago, I mean yeah.
Speaker 6: And even Houston and back and believe a seventies had
Speaker 6: a the Houston Batman, which was seen as like a
Speaker 6: mothman like creature. And that's also kind of funny thing too.
Speaker 6: Living in San Antonio, there's a lot of cryptid based
Speaker 6: ideas here. For instance, the well known Tom Slick lived
Speaker 6: here in San Antonio and there's actually a Tom Slick
Speaker 6: Drive in the medical Center. And of course Tom Slick
Speaker 6: was known for actually financing multiple Bigfoot and Yetti field
Speaker 6: expeditions back in the fifties and the sixties. Uh, there's
Speaker 6: been several Bigfoot sightings near here. Watching of course, Monster Quest.
Speaker 6: In one episode, Querlo Texas appears when talking about the
Speaker 6: Chupicabo and that's literally forty to fifty minutes south of
Speaker 6: me currently where I'm sitting. So I realized, Okay, the Bigfoot,
Speaker 6: all this stuff isn't happening way out there, but there's
Speaker 6: so things happening close to me, closer to home. And
Speaker 6: of course, living in Texas, I also found out about
Speaker 6: East Texas and a large amount of Bigfoot research that
Speaker 6: curves there as well.
Speaker 4: Very interesting. So it sounds like Monster quest had a
Speaker 4: bit of an effect on your life, because you must
Speaker 4: have been just the right age when I came.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm currently twenty four, so watching things like monster Quests.
Speaker 6: I believe there's one on Discovery Channel called Mystery Travels,
Speaker 6: a couple of documentaries on that Gail, because I was
Speaker 6: a kid that I loved watching history shows, things about
Speaker 6: animals and fighting. These shows, I'm like, Okay, there's something
Speaker 6: a little bit more out there, right, There's something to
Speaker 6: kind of ask questions about, because too many times we
Speaker 6: think we have all the answers, and without how can
Speaker 6: we get to the answers without answering questions asking questions?
Speaker 6: And that's what cryptozoology and parallel research does in the
Speaker 6: first place, is give us some questions that we can
Speaker 6: go and look for these things.
Speaker 4: Well, it gave you an tst in science, it sounds like.
Speaker 6: Yes, because that's one thing that I talk about a
Speaker 6: lot with cryptosologies. Ology is in the name, it's a field.
Speaker 6: I try to tell people that cryptosology is the first
Speaker 6: step of biology. You have to discover the animal. You
Speaker 6: have to research the animal before you can ever discover, uh,
Speaker 6: discover it because How'm going to bring in different perspectives
Speaker 6: into cryptology, because cryptology is not just a bunch of
Speaker 6: people out there hunting for monsters, but the mix of zoology, primatology, biology, ecology, primatology,
Speaker 6: a lot of ologies today. But all these different perspectives
Speaker 6: are in one field in this supposedly pseudoscience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pseudoscience. I hate that word. I hate that word absolutely.
Speaker 6: Maybe if you say the word pseudo in front of it,
Speaker 6: hopefully Facebook won't mark it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I should have said that. You know, it's funny too,
Speaker 4: because I was writing it up. I'm going should do this,
Speaker 4: I shouldn't do this, I shouldn't use that word, and
Speaker 4: I'm like whatever, and then and then still he went
Speaker 4: into Facebook jail after Jeff posted it about that. Straighten
Speaker 4: it out. It's ridiculous. I mean, come on, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 4: What kind of society are we getting into? And yet
Speaker 4: you go on Facebook and they have all sorts of
Speaker 4: raunchy crap on there that that's fine. Yah, anything educational.
Speaker 6: Things are clearly AI generated that people still believed. That's
Speaker 6: one thing I tell people is like, ask the question
Speaker 6: is is be educated to learn things? Because yeah, the
Speaker 6: first step of anything is uneducated populous. That's what what
Speaker 6: you don't want is you want to be educated, you
Speaker 6: want to ask the questions.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a kind of a rash yeah, of fakes.
Speaker 4: I saw a fake thermal footage yesterday. I saw a
Speaker 4: fake trail camera footage, fake trail camera pictures. It is
Speaker 4: getting harder to tell. I mean, AI is getting exponentially
Speaker 4: better every week.
Speaker 6: That's why I don't do video analysis. When people bring
Speaker 6: me videos or photos and I'm like, you know, that's
Speaker 6: it's something that you captured. I know for sure you
Speaker 6: captured in the field and you're the one withoud the
Speaker 6: exact same camera. I don't analyze it because, first of all,
Speaker 6: my eyes are not the best classes, So first of all,
Speaker 6: I might not be able to see the little details.
Speaker 6: But second of all, how good. AI's gotten and there's
Speaker 6: always gonna be hoaxers. I try to stick away from
Speaker 6: like the video analysis because it's the waters are too
Speaker 6: murky now to really look at it like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is, although there's a couple of tips. One
Speaker 4: is there a beginning and a middle in and in
Speaker 4: meaning it's gotta be I mean, does a great job
Speaker 4: for eight seconds, Yeah, and that's about it the max.
Speaker 4: Most of the clips are five. In the audio you
Speaker 4: can't fake. It's really hard for people to act and
Speaker 4: fake audio, and so there should be some damn audio
Speaker 4: with it. I have kind of what I do, and
Speaker 4: I recommend everybody go and watch it on our untold
Speaker 4: radio network. In the video section, there is a uh
Speaker 4: I call it red flag scoring system, and you can
Speaker 4: you can do it that way and you can get
Speaker 4: pretty close to the truth. It may not, it may
Speaker 4: not be right, but it's you know, when you get
Speaker 4: somebody red flags on footage, then you can go. I'll
Speaker 4: just won't pay any attention to it at least, But
Speaker 4: like the Patterson, when you judge it with my footage
Speaker 4: or with my scoring system, it gets a perfect no flag.
Speaker 4: There's one flags.
Speaker 6: Good because like what you shay at the beginning, middle
Speaker 6: and end. Of course you always see like the five seconds,
Speaker 6: But Patty, you have that film, you have a beginning,
Speaker 6: middle and the end. It just that On most televisions,
Speaker 6: in most series, you don't play the whole set, right,
Speaker 6: But when you see it, you see the full begame,
Speaker 6: middle and end. You see the flow of it.
Speaker 4: Right. Plus they collected physical evidence footprint the whole trackway,
Speaker 4: photograph the whole trackway. I mean, go on and on
Speaker 4: and on, and it was multiple witnesses and we're willing
Speaker 4: to testify, I mean, on and on. Those are the
Speaker 4: things that make red flags disappear. Yeah, but you use
Speaker 4: my scoring system. I just really, if you have a
Speaker 4: photo or a video, go to the scoring system and
Speaker 4: score it. You'll be like mind blown how accurate it'll be.
Speaker 4: And I get into quite good detail on it. And
Speaker 4: that's what I still use. Doesn't mean there isn't room
Speaker 4: to be wrong. I could still be wrong, but at
Speaker 4: least at that point I'm going, I'm not wasting my
Speaker 4: time on it. Yes, right, and that's all that's all
Speaker 4: we can do. So let's talk about just you know,
Speaker 4: reading reports. Is there a what would I say, is
Speaker 4: there is there certain types of reports that you really
Speaker 4: think are worth investigating. I mean, what's kind of your
Speaker 4: your gold standard report that you get m or read.
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 4: With mine? I get a little bit in mix of everything.
Speaker 6: I do like because I kind of like the idea,
Speaker 6: like the classifications is in my class A, class B,
Speaker 6: class C I do. I love the class as that
Speaker 6: I saw something, it was there, it was daylight. But
Speaker 6: those aren't exactly common, especially when it comes to crypti
Speaker 6: crypti research. So I love ideas of like things of
Speaker 6: the quick second eyewitness accounts, people seeing some and cross
Speaker 6: the road or something right ran the field of division.
Speaker 6: And what I like to look at is going back
Speaker 6: and actually looking at the area and seeing what it
Speaker 6: makes sense for an animal to be here, for instance,
Speaker 6: and citing I researched. A couple of months ago, there
Speaker 6: was a rash of not really a rash, but two
Speaker 6: suppose a dog man will pull its here in San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 6: And one of them happened at a park, and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 6: it happened at this park. You know it had to
Speaker 6: be a dog man oldest And I went on Google
Speaker 6: Maps and I'm like, I know what that park is
Speaker 6: I opened it up and it's right in the middle
Speaker 6: of downtown and I'm like, Okay, what's the likelihood of
Speaker 6: there being a eight foot tall bipedal wolf walking around?
Speaker 4: Not very likely?
Speaker 6: Is it possible? Yes? But research is about probability, not
Speaker 6: just possibility. And there was another signing that happened at
Speaker 6: a park called Hartburg Park where a friend of mine
Speaker 6: has done research in bigfoot signs at that same area.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, that adds a bit of a
Speaker 6: bit more likelihood. And trying to contact their eyewitness. I
Speaker 6: tried doing it multiple times, but you cannot get in
Speaker 6: contact with it. But I'm saying, okay, that's a possible siding.
Speaker 6: Is it for sure? Know without the talking to the eyewitness,
Speaker 6: I can't know for sure, But researching things like that,
Speaker 6: looking at if you have an eyewitness looking at the area,
Speaker 6: would have seemed act the creature or whatever phenomena is saying,
Speaker 6: and is it probable that animal would be there? Like,
Speaker 6: one thing I have to do is talking to bigfoot
Speaker 6: eyewitnesses is going back to the area and thinking like, Okay,
Speaker 6: what would a bigfoot be thinking? What would this animal
Speaker 6: be thinking? Is there a way for escape? Is it
Speaker 6: a way for it to cross. Is there a natural
Speaker 6: game trail already there? Looking at the environment and seeing
Speaker 6: doesn't match with an animal being there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you do enjoy like going to the site
Speaker 4: of the of the report, And do you look for
Speaker 4: a water often?
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 4: Texas is obviously not as water filled in eastern Texas
Speaker 4: might be, but yeah, but generally Texas doesn't have like
Speaker 4: the kind of lakes and rivers and streams that we
Speaker 4: do here. But is that one thing you look for
Speaker 4: watering holes, lakes, streams, canals.
Speaker 6: So first thing I look for is water and greenways
Speaker 6: like a good friend of mine, And I'm gonna know
Speaker 6: if we'll get from of the olds. Jason McClean talks
Speaker 6: about the green wall. Is there areas where even a
Speaker 6: large animal could move around human settlement? For instance, here
Speaker 6: in San Antonio there is a creek system that comes
Speaker 6: through San Antonio with a corresponding area of parks and
Speaker 6: things like that where it's no humans go into. So okay,
Speaker 6: there is a possible cavicorador. Second, is the food available,
Speaker 6: for instance with bigfoot if it's an omnivore, So is
Speaker 6: there a proper food that this animal could be eating
Speaker 6: in this area. And one thing, one major thing I
Speaker 6: look at is the local folklore, local or traditions like
Speaker 6: for instance, what thing love looking at is indigenous tribes.
Speaker 6: Other are the indigenous tribes stories of creatures like this
Speaker 6: living in the area, and could that be coolating to
Speaker 6: demand day phenomena?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Obviously a history of you know, the
Speaker 4: area is kind of important. Isn't that hard though to
Speaker 4: look up history of creatures? Like what do you what
Speaker 4: do you like? Go to the library and look up
Speaker 4: at old microfish? What do you do?
Speaker 6: So one thing I try to do is look at
Speaker 6: front since like not microfish, but I try to go
Speaker 6: to online and look through old newspaper reports and just
Speaker 6: simple looking up wild man or wolf or things like
Speaker 6: that and seeing if anything pops up. And as well
Speaker 6: as looking at some type of nave traditions and see
Speaker 6: if I can find any they would research and what
Speaker 6: their old stories where there things like that. For instance,
Speaker 6: with the Dogmannulty s Antonio in Converse, Texas, which is
Speaker 6: a little bit wlf of here, there are stories of
Speaker 6: the Converse were wolf back in eighteen hundreds, so it
Speaker 6: goes that a young man was killed by this giant
Speaker 6: walking wolf that walked on two legs, And does that
Speaker 6: old tradition correlate to the modol phenomena? Not necessarily, but
Speaker 6: we see that there's already a precognition of sightings in
Speaker 6: the area. So maybe I could correlate to the Monday
Speaker 6: phenomena occurring with Monday sidings.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So what cryptids are you most I'm interested in?
Speaker 4: If you get a cryptid like kind of even a
Speaker 4: non category cryptid, do you still do you have interest
Speaker 4: in it? You're to kind of blow it off? Or
Speaker 4: do either? Do you investigate those reports? I even I investigate.
Speaker 4: I try to mistigate everything.
Speaker 6: One of the major things I research a lot of
Speaker 6: is these unknown primates seen around the United States, not
Speaker 6: just big football. Also another crypto that's really the thing
Speaker 6: I really get interested in is double monkeys, these signs
Speaker 6: of large baboon like primates seeing around the country, especially
Speaker 6: along with the Appalachian Trails, parts of the Ozarks, and
Speaker 6: even parts of Texas. The double monkeys. The term comes
Speaker 6: from Mark Hall and Lorne Coleman. There, while researching bigfoot
Speaker 6: back in the sixties and the seventies, they discovered that
Speaker 6: there were something else going on here. There is signings
Speaker 6: of these large baboon like animals around the country and
Speaker 6: their stories go of these being moving in small troops.
Speaker 6: I guess you would call them troops because they're primates,
Speaker 6: and being that these aren't bigfoot, they have baboon like muscles.
Speaker 6: They're imagine like all and bad boon, but bout the
Speaker 6: size of a human. And that's what these signs are
Speaker 6: being carrying around, especially in the South along to the
Speaker 6: Ozarks and the Appalachian Trails, and they usually do coalate
Speaker 6: to waterways. For instance, one thing always brought up is waterways.
Speaker 6: Uh legend of Odd Creek It always falls to creeks
Speaker 6: is a line in that movie. And that's one thing
Speaker 6: is always brought up, especially with bigfoot signs and a
Speaker 6: lot of cryptid signs all waterways. And but I do
Speaker 6: love researching any type of cryptids. I love looking at
Speaker 6: like bigfoot signings. Dog Man's kind of a new It's
Speaker 6: called a new kid on the block. It's the new
Speaker 6: big cryptid nowadays that people see. And I love researching
Speaker 6: it because it's just it's just so interesting what people
Speaker 6: are reporting and the ideas of is is a being
Speaker 6: that it is flesh and blood, because there's a lot
Speaker 6: of signs of them killing animals, eating real killed things
Speaker 6: like that. But what what artist creatures on an ultra
Speaker 6: dimensional on a from maybe a some type of utter
Speaker 6: plane of existence that face through to ours. It's just
Speaker 6: so interesting talk to eyewitnesses, especially the psychological effects of
Speaker 6: these animals, because when it comes to the dogma phenomena,
Speaker 6: and it's a lot more fear I feel than the
Speaker 6: bigfoot research. Like talking to a big foot eyewitness, you
Speaker 6: get fear, but not the innate fear that these dog
Speaker 6: man creatures start. And it's funny how so many eyewitnesses
Speaker 6: always it's almost like I can currently talk about how
Speaker 6: this animal could have gotten me, this this monster could
Speaker 6: have gotten.
Speaker 4: Me, but it didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 6: So it's just weird how you find a correlationship between
Speaker 6: eyewitnesses around the country that have never talked to each other.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the same thing.
Speaker 4: So I always do wonder if well I didn't wonder
Speaker 4: a lot whether dog men were just bigfoots that were
Speaker 4: like these bare bone like creatures that people are reporting.
Speaker 4: Do you think there's any any possibility of mix up
Speaker 4: or do you think the people reporting dog men are
Speaker 4: seeing dog men.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the thing too, is I'd like to call
Speaker 6: it the name game, is that now we have still
Speaker 6: people bring up the name dog man a lot. And
Speaker 6: it's funny because a lot of people have to go
Speaker 6: back in some bigfoot sidings that will want bigfoot sidings
Speaker 6: are like, well, that might sound like a dog man man,
Speaker 6: and there might be a big mix up between eyewitnesses
Speaker 6: because they are both fairly similar in morphologies, are both tall, hairy,
Speaker 6: usually black the brown colored. But then it comes to
Speaker 6: the head shape. You have to look at the head
Speaker 6: shape and legs. But even people report having dog maned
Speaker 6: sidings with human like with exammals having human like legs
Speaker 6: but a canine like snout and muzzle. So all these
Speaker 6: different the dog man that other people are saying with
Speaker 6: digital grade legs.
Speaker 4: All these.
Speaker 6: Miss identifications of sasquatch. And that's one thing I bring
Speaker 6: in with people is talking about the psychology of it,
Speaker 6: is that with a lot of people, when they're doing
Speaker 6: bigfoot of dog maned research, they might be looking for
Speaker 6: this creature. And when you're looking for something, you're more
Speaker 6: likely to see it. Of course, that's how the human
Speaker 6: brain works. Paradilia matrixing. So when you are looking for
Speaker 6: bigfoot bigfoot research, you might see something that maybe was
Speaker 6: dog man might be a bigfoot. Now, if you're doing
Speaker 6: dog maned research, you're going to be finding dogmn evidence,
Speaker 6: not necessarily bigfoot evidence in a bigfoot area.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's one thing I bring I try to
Speaker 6: talk to is if talk to people, is now that
Speaker 6: dog man is a big is a new kid on
Speaker 6: the block. A lot of people are seeing more dog
Speaker 6: maned signings and bigfoot signings. And could it be because
Speaker 6: they it's more I guess you can say on the
Speaker 6: brain now it's more known now. But is it because
Speaker 6: these animals are always here or is it just because
Speaker 6: psychologically our culture knows about them more? Now?
Speaker 4: It's true. By the way, we have a kind of
Speaker 4: a twenty it's almost twenty seconds leg going on. Do
Speaker 4: you have a you have a decent Internet connection, don't you? Right? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 4: let me have you just log out and just pop
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Speaker 6: Gotcha, lead studio, They come back in.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, We'll get the the leg fixed. Hopefully we'll
Speaker 4: try it. Go ahead, Jeff, Yeah, yeah, I see a
Speaker 4: lot of leg. People are complaining about it. Yeah. Somebody says,
Speaker 4: who's the ventrilo question? Because the leg is so bad?
Speaker 5: Yeah, actually it doesn't look that bad on Mike.
Speaker 4: Oh it's bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm seeing it weird.
Speaker 4: It just would be nice to get rid of it.
Speaker 4: It's irritating like anything. But the Internet has been a
Speaker 4: little slow today.
Speaker 5: It's been yeah, at my computer's been weird all day.
Speaker 5: The Internet's been weird all day.
Speaker 4: Yep. But I can imagine there's a lot of people
Speaker 4: are a lot of power lines and internet lines that
Speaker 4: are covered in ice. Yeah, there we go. Ryan's back.
Speaker 4: Sorry about that, all right? Ryan back?
Speaker 6: Is there a lag now or no?
Speaker 4: It looks better, way better to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's freezing out because of the code outside. Maybe that's
Speaker 6: Texan's not used to the cold.
Speaker 4: How bad is it there?
Speaker 6: I think currently it's twenty thirty degrees. I know, to
Speaker 6: find nothing to you guys, but.
Speaker 4: We're not so used to that down here. Twenty degrees yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: everybody'd be wearing shorts and t shirts. Yeah, we had
Speaker 4: that weather and that drives me nuts, Like it'll be
Speaker 4: like twenty degrees fifteen degrees and all the guys are
Speaker 4: out there with their shorts on and their their T shirts,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 6: It's about. It's an idea perspective. But I get a
Speaker 6: lot of people from uh living in Texas if you
Speaker 6: move up north, like oh yeah, we can't stand the cold.
Speaker 6: But then a lot of people come from north down
Speaker 6: here in the summer it's like it's ninety degrees one
Speaker 6: hundred and ten degrees, way too half with most people.
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's let's just kind of back the truck
Speaker 4: up a little bit. I do want to talk about
Speaker 4: these bab boon type creatures. How many reports have you
Speaker 4: read about or heard about? Is this kind of a
Speaker 4: common thing.
Speaker 6: It's not as common as for instance, I can think
Speaker 6: just went a couple of do and maybe i'd say
Speaker 6: maybe less than one hundred ports that areknown on file.
Speaker 6: Most signings occurved from i'd say up probably north of
Speaker 6: Tennessee long Applachian Trail down to parts of Louisiana, parts
Speaker 6: of Mississippi. It's kind of a mostly subtherly cryptid you
Speaker 6: have some sidings in the west parts of organ things
Speaker 6: like that, but it's very rare. People will pullt sindes
Speaker 6: like giant baboons. A well known possible photo was actually
Speaker 6: taken in Louisiana. It's called a Dertta roadkill photo. In
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety six along Highway twelve outside the Redder, Louisiana,
Speaker 6: there was this weird creature h hit by a car
Speaker 6: that they found and people called it it looked like
Speaker 6: a giant monkey. But later on their photos taken and
Speaker 6: the local UH sheriff said, well, it's nothing but a
Speaker 6: dead Pomeranian dog. It's just a dead dog. But when
Speaker 6: you look at the photos, there's people in the background
Speaker 6: showing that there's these animals about the size of maybe
Speaker 6: a border maybe Border Collie to about a fairly fairly
Speaker 6: big sized dog, but has a Tholton muzzle, has almost
Speaker 6: human like hands, and it's long fur coming off the shoulders.
Speaker 6: And that's what these devil monkeys are reported seeing. People
Speaker 6: will put animals with three toes, which is the interesting
Speaker 6: fact is that these things are seen with three toes,
Speaker 6: and that's a very uncommon UH phenomenon. Would in primate
Speaker 6: see the only known primate missing any type of digits
Speaker 6: is the spider monkey, and it's missing the thumb because
Speaker 6: the thumb is not necessary for what the grab branches.
Speaker 4: Really, I didn't know that. I didn't know that, Ryan.
Speaker 6: They only it's with its fingers. But these creatures are
Speaker 6: seen with three toes, and that's something I bring up
Speaker 6: in my third book, Beyond big But could this be
Speaker 6: some type of periphodoctively which is an idea that the
Speaker 6: toes fuse. There is a culture and except Sahara, Africa
Speaker 6: called the Ostrich people. These people, their toes merge, their
Speaker 6: form almost like two giant toes, like an ostriche foot,
Speaker 6: like an Ostrich foot. And these primates, because they're living
Speaker 6: in short, smaller areas probite smaller communities, be having some
Speaker 6: type of genetic dystrip feet that causes a morphological distressing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Another word, they're in bread, Yeah, in bread. Yes.
Speaker 6: And it's interesting because these double monkeys are seen in
Speaker 6: same areas as Bigfoot, but it's seen as more aggressive
Speaker 6: than sasqua.
Speaker 4: Why else the double monkeys were like small? I didn't
Speaker 4: know they were people rewarding these early big ones.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's stories of them being from maybe if they
Speaker 6: stood up on their hind feet, maybe six feet tall,
Speaker 6: maybe four feet tall, larger than known baboons. And that's
Speaker 6: one things that maybe could it be a misidentification of
Speaker 6: a known babboon maybe escape, But these things are larger
Speaker 6: than known private.
Speaker 4: Yeah, babones really are very big. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And unlast, you look at like prehistory, like have you
Speaker 6: ever heard of Donapithacus before? No, So, Dinapithcus was a babboon.
Speaker 6: It was a pongoid, which not pongoids pepianans. Pepianins are
Speaker 6: of large terrestrial primates like Therapyfcus baboons. But Dinopifcus lived
Speaker 6: about a million years ago and was about the size
Speaker 6: of a man. And these animals moved in large, large
Speaker 6: troops naturally hunted early commonants like osterlopiph Scenes and Parenthepus.
Speaker 6: So our own human ancestors were hunted by giant baboons.
Speaker 6: And there's been caves found in Kenya where there's Dinopithcus
Speaker 6: skulls are found, and there's also infacy and the skeletons
Speaker 6: found right alongside them, and that brings in a question, Well,
Speaker 6: the Dynopifacus hunting osco Epipacus the early helminins, or wasn't
Speaker 6: that around? But these animals are coolly monstrous, and I
Speaker 6: bring in Okay, so there is a biological precedent for
Speaker 6: a large terrestrial, that balloon like animal. But could these
Speaker 6: creatures be living in North America? Not necessarily because there's
Speaker 6: no land bridges, But if it existed once, if that
Speaker 6: animals evolved the once, why I wouldn't evolve nowadays? And
Speaker 6: that's why I love looking at prehistory because a lot
Speaker 6: of times in modern context of cryptology paleontology might have
Speaker 6: actual answers because there's a lot of coal issues between
Speaker 6: modern cryptids and prestoken North America.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's one of the most interesting books
Speaker 4: ever read, many many years ago, was the book by
Speaker 4: Esteban Sarmiando called Extinct Humans. And it's just something that
Speaker 4: we you know, it's the perspective he wrote the whole
Speaker 4: book from. But of all these different human basically they're
Speaker 4: all distinct humans. And I think about Bigfoot that it's
Speaker 4: kind of in that same category. Is it just another
Speaker 4: type of human? Is that the way you kind of
Speaker 4: look at it too, like it's human but just another category.
Speaker 4: It still survives with.
Speaker 6: Me I don't believe Bigfoot comes into the more hominin
Speaker 6: idea of like being human. I think it's a hominid.
Speaker 6: I think it's a non human primate that conventionally evolved
Speaker 6: to become humanlike, because there's kind of a principle to
Speaker 6: human evolution that's kind of funny. For millions of years,
Speaker 6: we were not the only humans. We had parenttipists, we
Speaker 6: had Neanderthals, we had homodenisva, we had Homofluenciansis. We had
Speaker 6: all these other human like beings living alongside us that
Speaker 6: were also human until like the last ten thousand years
Speaker 6: when the last Neanderthal has died out. So for millions
Speaker 6: of years in our evolution, we were not alone. Why
Speaker 6: would be? Why would we be alone now? So I
Speaker 6: believe there are other human species living alongside us that
Speaker 6: just have hidden away from us and that no kind
Speaker 6: of no better than to interact with us, for instance
Speaker 6: the Almus and Russia, these Neandothali creatures. Yet Bigfoot I
Speaker 6: believe is a non human primate just mostly because of
Speaker 6: the behavior said it demonstrates and anatomy it is it has.
Speaker 4: So Okay, okay, let's talk a little bit more about
Speaker 4: their intelligence. Bigfoots intelligence? Where would you kind of rate
Speaker 4: that on a scale. Let's say an average human being
Speaker 4: is a ten? Okay, where would you rate their intelligence?
Speaker 4: In three categories? Tool making, uh, woods wise, and there's
Speaker 4: a hunter. How would you rate those? You know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Compared to a human hunter? Where would you
Speaker 4: rate bigfoot? Let's start there?
Speaker 6: So first one tool making, I would say about a
Speaker 6: nine to an eight as an average human. But as
Speaker 6: wood why being, knowing the woods and hunting, I would
Speaker 6: put it beyond human. Yeah, because in my I think
Speaker 6: Bigfoot has human like intelligence, but it just got put
Speaker 6: in a different areas humans. We have religion, we have science,
Speaker 6: we have philosophy. I don't think bigfoot needs that. I
Speaker 6: think it found its intelligence. It found its niche right,
Speaker 6: because with adaptations, you have a niche where if you
Speaker 6: find in every way comfortable, they're going to stay there.
Speaker 6: It's like I tell people, if you have a good job,
Speaker 6: it pays you well, you like your job, why quit it?
Speaker 6: So I think bigfoot found its job, it found its niche.
Speaker 6: It it knows the environment, knows the woods, and uses
Speaker 6: that could avoid us because I know, I know these
Speaker 6: animals are highly intelligent audi on human like levels most likely, Yes,
Speaker 6: But they are able to avoid us because they know
Speaker 6: the environment so well, because they.
Speaker 4: Are absolutely on purpose, you know, a conscious decision to
Speaker 4: avoid us. Yes, because.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's funny because I kind of bring in
Speaker 6: ideas of look at the native traditions. Native traditions talk
Speaker 6: about at times when these the wildmen, the big these
Speaker 6: big flock animals lived almost longside them. They were fairly
Speaker 6: I guess, closer in relation than we are now. But
Speaker 6: then again, look what happened to Native Americans, Look what
Speaker 6: happened to indigenous cultures around the globe. They were coinciding
Speaker 6: with nature, they were coinciding with the planet, with wild animals,
Speaker 6: things like that. But when colonizers come in, when Europeans
Speaker 6: come in, they destroy nature, They destroy areas for wild
Speaker 6: animals to live, and destroy these in business cultures. Maybe
Speaker 6: that's why Sasquatch has moved farther and fared away from
Speaker 6: man because they see the destruction of it. Not trying
Speaker 6: to make this like a philosophical discussion, but maybe the
Speaker 6: Sasquatch sees the destruction of man and has moved further
Speaker 6: away because they know, I don't want to be the
Speaker 6: next animal that goes extinct. I don'tt to be the
Speaker 6: next being that ends up on the chopping block for
Speaker 6: human for humanity, because how many animals we've killed off
Speaker 6: throughout the millennia of auxist Right, maybe it doesnt want
Speaker 6: to be the next one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Obviously a lot of these different human species hunted
Speaker 4: each other, and there's got to be a lot of
Speaker 4: ancient memories of all sorts of conflict, and obviously we
Speaker 4: lost a lot of the species are gone, they're extinct.
Speaker 4: What happened to him?
Speaker 7: Was it?
Speaker 4: Was it weather related? Was it uh, space related? From
Speaker 4: a comet? What happened? Or did they just you know,
Speaker 4: just kill them off, just like we might get killed
Speaker 4: off a waster interacting with aliens, Right, they might decide
Speaker 4: to get rid of us.
Speaker 6: We don't know, yes, because we do know that we
Speaker 6: we did interact with early prominence. We interact with other
Speaker 6: human like species. And that's something that I've been hearing
Speaker 6: a lot recently. Is that maybe why you've probably heard
Speaker 6: of the uncanny Uncanny Valley before the fear is something
Speaker 6: that's human but not Maybe that's where that originates from
Speaker 6: seeing other human like species and having that innate fear
Speaker 6: that it's human but it's not human. It's it's us,
Speaker 6: but it's not us.
Speaker 4: What what word did you call that?
Speaker 6: Or what the uncanny value values?
Speaker 4: Okay, I still could know. Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, somebody told me.
Speaker 7: What it is.
Speaker 5: The uncanny Valley.
Speaker 4: It's it's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's that unsettling feeling when something like
Speaker 5: that's you kind of get that when you watch AI,
Speaker 5: when you when you kind of feel out that it's
Speaker 5: not quite right. It's a weird, unsetting feeling. And the
Speaker 5: term for that is the uncanny Valley.
Speaker 4: I've never heard that term. I love that term.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good term.
Speaker 6: It's when you see like an amatronic and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: You're like a human amatron that's moving that it's so robotic,
Speaker 6: it looks human like, but it's not human. Young people
Speaker 6: think that might originate from interacting with other human like
Speaker 6: species and maybe even interacting with things like Bigfoot in
Speaker 6: our early evolution, because if we saw a if you
Speaker 6: were a human living out on the out in the
Speaker 6: prairie or out in somewhere with an experience, see an
Speaker 6: eight seven eight foot tall giant that looks human but
Speaker 6: you know it's not human maybe would make you have
Speaker 6: a fear of that. That's kind of like what you
Speaker 6: said earlier, a genetic memory. It's kind of coherent in
Speaker 6: our genes and in our psychology.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be kind of a new science about
Speaker 4: genetic memory. And you know how it can last thousands
Speaker 4: of years. Uh, That's why I keep remembering Chiseling Stone.
Speaker 4: I'm just choking. Do you so? Do you think that
Speaker 4: bigfoots are purposely avoiding trail cams because they see them
Speaker 4: and they're just an odd object or do you think
Speaker 4: they know what the hell they are and they're avoiding
Speaker 4: them because they don't want their picture take you kind
Speaker 4: of what do you stand and all that? Jim Zachman
Speaker 4: asked that question. Good point.
Speaker 6: Okay, when it comes to trail cameras, I think there's
Speaker 6: two reasons they avoid them. Well one, I think what
Speaker 6: you were discussed, what you guys discussed earlier before I
Speaker 6: came on, was UV light. I think they can see
Speaker 6: the light coming from you from the night vision coming
Speaker 6: from them.
Speaker 4: Well that's I R, that's but U V is different.
Speaker 4: We have we do have an I R filter. We
Speaker 4: have a UV filter. And if you don't have those,
Speaker 4: that's more of a crude eye, because a lot of
Speaker 4: people are like, well, why would they have a more
Speaker 4: advanced eye than we No, no, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 4: a cruder eye. But it would allow them to see
Speaker 4: protein contented plants in fruit, it would allow them to
Speaker 4: see animal urine in the woods for hunting purposes. No,
Speaker 4: we don't need any of that. If you want to
Speaker 4: see a big vot would see take a UV flashlight.
Speaker 4: They're like, what six bucks? Yeah, you get one bringing
Speaker 4: in your bathroom. Don't do that. You will see it.
Speaker 4: Don't do that. You will see peace splattered all of
Speaker 4: your walls, freaking out animal you have dogs or cats,
Speaker 4: go around your house with it and you'll go, oh
Speaker 4: my god, do I need to clean? And that's but
Speaker 4: think about how good that could aid you Ryan in hunting.
Speaker 4: I mean to be able to see a toad, you know,
Speaker 4: toads YearIn eate a review seconds you'll be able to
Speaker 4: find toads and in small mammals and big mammals, and
Speaker 4: and it'd be amazing.
Speaker 6: It'd be really helpful. But also I think we're seeing
Speaker 6: ir light too. On the other side. On yeah, there
Speaker 6: you go, I'm trying to remember on the visual spectrum
Speaker 6: and I'm trying to it's on the other side of
Speaker 6: the spectrum of light. That would also be helpful because
Speaker 6: that aids a lot with night vision. And I believe
Speaker 6: these animals can see IR light because non animals can
Speaker 6: do it. We know caribou can see IR light.
Speaker 4: Well that's okay, but they haven't proven on IR on
Speaker 4: u V light that they do. Yeah, IR is totally
Speaker 4: a different deal. But that's on the other side of
Speaker 4: the spectrum, on the other side of the spectrum exactly.
Speaker 4: But to me, I think if you can see UV,
Speaker 4: you probably can see IR. Yes, So I think I
Speaker 4: think we're both right. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then the second part of the trail camera question
Speaker 6: is that I think they can they can just tell
Speaker 6: window there because what we talk about is these animals
Speaker 6: know their environments. They know it's their backyard. If someone
Speaker 6: came in your front because someone came into your eleving room,
Speaker 6: moved stuff around in your house, you will probably be
Speaker 6: able to tell it, tell it to tell that stuff
Speaker 6: got moved, or if someone went and added something into
Speaker 6: your bedroom, you might be able to notice it. Because
Speaker 6: that to these animals, the woods are their bedroom. And
Speaker 6: it's interesting fact too. Back in the early two thousands, uh,
Speaker 6: they've done research on chimps and trail cameras, research into
Speaker 6: what were called novel stimuli of putting trail cameras in
Speaker 6: pods of the congo and seeing chimps in track with them.
Speaker 6: And there's been research that's shown that when it comes
Speaker 6: to trail cameras chimps, a non primate avoids them. When
Speaker 6: they're in groups, they're more likely to be seen by
Speaker 6: a trail camera because when you're in a group, they're
Speaker 6: a little bit more boisterous, they're a little bit more confident.
Speaker 6: But when it's a loan chimp, there's almost no chow
Speaker 6: camera photos of lone chimps.
Speaker 4: That's a good point, right, Yeah, they're not confident.
Speaker 6: So if a non primate can detect a trail camera,
Speaker 6: because if it's a novel stimuli, it can be the scent,
Speaker 6: it can be the site, it can be anything like that.
Speaker 6: But non primate can do it, why would an unknown
Speaker 6: primate do it?
Speaker 5: And they also might be able to sense the electromaenetic field,
Speaker 5: I mean anything with the batterieson to kick out emathic
Speaker 5: maybe they could sense that who knows.
Speaker 6: Yeah, some people have brought up ideas and maybe sasquatch
Speaker 6: could detect like electromagnetic field something like that. Maybe that's
Speaker 6: why I've heard some people bring up ideas and maybe
Speaker 6: that's why they don't go near cities because of old
Speaker 6: electromagnetic fields near the city.
Speaker 4: Okay, well we're going to talk about that. I had
Speaker 4: this thought. I just went being great out of my brain.
Speaker 4: What the hell was Oh suddenly I feel ninety. I
Speaker 4: don't know what the hell I was gonna say. I
Speaker 4: just completely lost my train of thought. What causes that, Jeff?
Speaker 4: Is it's just old age? Probably?
Speaker 6: I don't think I do the same thing.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: Okay, walk into your room if you get while you walked.
Speaker 4: In there, Oh my god. Okay. Trail cams, Oh, I
Speaker 4: know what I was gonna say. Did you ever read
Speaker 4: that study that they did on wolves and trail cams
Speaker 4: and realized they had never photographed the alpha male in
Speaker 4: a wolf pack that they had always avoided. They only got,
Speaker 4: you know, the the betas, They never got the alphas
Speaker 4: on drill camps. That really hit home for me. What
Speaker 4: do you think about that? Again?
Speaker 6: Shows that maybe it could be what're being the alpha male.
Speaker 4: Uh, they would have the ability maybe to text some
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 6: But also funny how the alpha male is not detected
Speaker 6: but up but the subordinates are. It's that's kind of
Speaker 6: interesting because at a pack structure of wolves. Could it
Speaker 6: be could the alpha mal be maybe doing a test
Speaker 6: of like you guys, go see if that's safe and
Speaker 6: I'll stay back here. It could it be that the
Speaker 6: alpha male has the experience to know that that's a
Speaker 6: human device that's avoided. Right, But even with the same ideas,
Speaker 6: is that think of trapping when you go and trap animals.
Speaker 6: A lot of people say, especially with wolves, things like
Speaker 6: that you usually get the younger one ones. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: don't get the older ones, like the alphas and things
Speaker 6: like that. That's something I bring up, especially with Bigfoot,
Speaker 6: the big alpha male. Pasquatches are probably never ever seen
Speaker 6: by humans because they know that probably by a certain
Speaker 6: age they're probably they are no to avoid humans, because
Speaker 6: I personally think that sasquatch at a young age are
Speaker 6: taught to avoid humans. And this brings up the ideas
Speaker 6: of culture, which is really interesting because they Jane Goodall
Speaker 6: was once almost going out of the scientific field because
Speaker 6: she used the world culture when it came to chimps.
Speaker 6: People can't use a human word for a non human animal,
Speaker 6: but we know these animals have culture, and I think
Speaker 6: sasquatch do too. And I believe that most sightings when
Speaker 6: come to sasquatch either lone ones that are just trying
Speaker 6: to get from one point A to point B as
Speaker 6: quickly as they can, or maybe the younger ones a
Speaker 6: little bit more I don't know, I act like gene
Speaker 6: teenage humans, maybe a little bit more boisterous, a little
Speaker 6: bit more confident. Or maybe it could be the ones
Speaker 6: that are truly trying to get near humans because they're
Speaker 6: trying to find either like food or things like that.
Speaker 6: Like how when animals get sick and old, a lot
Speaker 6: of preators they go looking for human areas to get
Speaker 6: trash and stuff like that. But I think the large
Speaker 6: alpha males or females or whoever, how they are having
Speaker 6: their family structures, which I most likely think annoy ows
Speaker 6: most likely know by a certain certain age. I guess
Speaker 6: you would say, have the idea to stay away from
Speaker 6: humans that are never seen by humans.
Speaker 4: So is it possible Ryan that most sightings I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna throw this out to everybody, including you, Ryan, but
Speaker 4: to the world, let's just not talk about much. Do
Speaker 4: you think most sightings are females that have purposely allowed
Speaker 4: them self to be seen to distract from their young
Speaker 4: that are dashed, in other words, their postpartum and somebody
Speaker 4: comes around and they put their celf out there to distract.
Speaker 4: Is that a possibility? So so, so the question or
Speaker 4: the hypothesis, is our female bigfoot seen more than males.
Speaker 6: That is a possibility. But I kind of I kind
Speaker 6: of have an idea that these animals would use distraction
Speaker 6: of coals and could it be females mostically, yes, because
Speaker 6: a lot of research has suggested that bigfoots have a
Speaker 6: family structure called noyao.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: The late Jeff Meldrim talked about family structures with big
Speaker 6: foot He talked about these having a family structure called noyaos.
Speaker 6: These are when that it's one large male in one
Speaker 6: territory and a bunch of females live in the same territory,
Speaker 6: but they're broken up. They're not living like one big
Speaker 6: troop like a big like a gorilla. And it's interesting
Speaker 6: because you've seen this kooli with bigfoot footprints You don't
Speaker 6: see a lot of male male footprints with sasquats, but
Speaker 6: you see a lot of the smaller female ones because
Speaker 6: there is a known kind of idea of like the
Speaker 6: group of like this is female, this is a male
Speaker 6: because of the foot side, because there is a sexual dimorphism,
Speaker 6: and it's just a thing that would be annoy o
Speaker 6: is because there are known two groups of primates that
Speaker 6: use the same family structure.
Speaker 4: Well, just let's define sexual dimorphism. That just means the
Speaker 4: females are much smaller than the male's bace.
Speaker 6: Yes, I think so bag guerrilla compared to grown female
Speaker 6: female griller.
Speaker 4: Big difference. So okay, but you once again, do you
Speaker 4: think it's mainly juveniles and females that are seen.
Speaker 6: I believe so, I believe. I believe the males. I
Speaker 6: think the males that we do see are kind of
Speaker 6: like the bachelor males. They're ones moving from group to group,
Speaker 6: moving into a new area, because I think these animals
Speaker 6: have a huge territory, probably undred hundreds of hundreds of
Speaker 6: square miles or even more. And I think the bachelor
Speaker 6: males are the ones I mostly see, the large kind
Speaker 6: of you can say alpha males probably never seen or
Speaker 6: at least see when they're younger.
Speaker 5: That's that's pretty universal across that's not such a primate thing.
Speaker 5: Even deer do that. Yeah, a big buck because they're smart.
Speaker 5: They hide, they don't they just don't. They know how
Speaker 5: to not be seen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a reason why trophy bucks almost seeing. Maybe
Speaker 6: everyone wants to get that trophy buck because you only
Speaker 6: see it like once a year. It was in a
Speaker 6: couple of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't get big by being stupid. They figured
Speaker 5: it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I mean, that's there is something, don't you
Speaker 4: Ryan that's not talked about much in this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in this field because it's so funny because when
Speaker 6: I kind of look at it is so many people
Speaker 6: are trying to prove these animals exist, which, of ho
Speaker 6: is so important to it. But also what if we
Speaker 6: talked about if as if these animals did exist, and
Speaker 6: go even deeper into it, like what you bring up
Speaker 6: would eye witness accounts and like obviously more males and females,
Speaker 6: What would the ecology of these animals be? What would
Speaker 6: the psychology of these animals be? How they think? And
Speaker 6: that's one thing I try to talk about is if
Speaker 6: you're trying to prove bigfoot exists. That's the biggest part
Speaker 6: of this. But also what would the next step be,
Speaker 6: how will we how we research these animals? What would
Speaker 6: the actual nature of these creatures be? Because there's so
Speaker 6: many people that talk about like, oh, well this, this
Speaker 6: proves that, this proves it disproves it. Well, yes, the
Speaker 6: proof is out there for these animals, but let's do
Speaker 6: the kind of the thought experiment of these animals have
Speaker 6: already been detected. Let's go to that deeper sense of research,
Speaker 6: like okay, let's look at their ecology, let's look at
Speaker 6: their behavioral sets. What would the speculative morphology a bigfoot be?
Speaker 6: And even like we brought up earlier, whether it be
Speaker 6: human or nonhuman.
Speaker 4: There was once again I had the same thing, great
Speaker 4: question of my brain also one gone zing day I'm
Speaker 4: singing out, Jeff, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, if you if you want to change gears a
Speaker 5: little bit, something I've been thinking about a lot lately.
Speaker 5: We've talked, We've talked a little bit about you know,
Speaker 5: we talked a little bit about portals and phasing and
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. Had a really great conversation with
Speaker 5: Todd Nice at that last big Foot Convince And one
Speaker 5: thing we talked about this is I don't know if
Speaker 5: this is his theory, but he told me about it
Speaker 5: is a possible explanation for that is we know from
Speaker 5: this is actually from the Mercury space program that certain vibrations,
Speaker 5: certain harmonics, will affect your vision. They found that astronauts
Speaker 5: couldn't see some of the gauges because the the vibration
Speaker 5: of the engine was that certain frequency that kind of
Speaker 5: made your eyes not work.
Speaker 4: So when did that happen to the astronauts Mercury programs.
Speaker 5: That would have been the early sixties they discovered that. So,
Speaker 5: you know, we talk a lot about Bigfoot having infrasound.
Speaker 5: If they if they have the capacity to replicate that
Speaker 5: harmonic you know, they don't. They don't disappear, but they
Speaker 5: make our eyes not see them. That's that's that's a
Speaker 5: pretty interesting theory and it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 6: About I've actually discussed that with a couple of people,
Speaker 6: is could they use also another phenomenon could just be
Speaker 6: why did we hear the work determined mind speak? Could
Speaker 6: they be using infrasonic wave to affect our vision and
Speaker 6: our auditory to make us feel certain ways? Because if
Speaker 6: people get zapped and feel nervous and scared and big
Speaker 6: for an area. What else could they do with infra sound?
Speaker 6: Could they maybe maybe not purposefully use it for sound
Speaker 6: to make it that they are standing right there but
Speaker 6: you don't see them.
Speaker 9: So this would so this would be a superability that
Speaker 9: they possess that we don't Yes, And like what we
Speaker 9: discussed earlier with UH, with animals, just because it's something
Speaker 9: that we don't know doesn't make it supernatural necessarily, it
Speaker 9: would be just neg ability that animals have because we
Speaker 9: know tigers use their for sound, other animals use it
Speaker 9: in for sound.
Speaker 6: And maybe these animals are, like what we talked about earlier,
Speaker 6: smart enough and intelligent enough to use it to an
Speaker 6: ability that we have not studied yet yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a good question, Jeff, or a good statement.
Speaker 5: What's some thought about lots it's it's it's it's a
Speaker 5: it's a really it's a really solid explanation, and it's
Speaker 5: not the science is there, it's nothing. We're not making
Speaker 5: anything up. I mean, we know that we can do
Speaker 5: that to the human eye. Actually the military is using
Speaker 5: that technology right now in that raid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Venezulta something really went down.
Speaker 5: Weird capacitated people with with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So I think I think Trump got interviewed and he
Speaker 4: and he goes like, did you guys use some kind
Speaker 4: of crazy new weapon? He goes yep, yep. He didn't
Speaker 4: deny it, and he just goes yep, I didn't say
Speaker 4: what it was. So okay, that is that's a great thought.
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure about that would cause mine speak,
Speaker 4: but it might.
Speaker 6: You know, they get fact the vision. But that's one
Speaker 6: thing I brought up that maybe cult it caused mind speak.
Speaker 6: But I don't think there's been any research with infrasound
Speaker 6: and auditory effects. I know, mostly it's like physiological and
Speaker 6: like uh, visual, but I don't think I don't think
Speaker 6: of any research with like auditory effects infra sound.
Speaker 5: Well, you know you just talked in the Weird and
Speaker 5: Fast News about how our brains behave with silence. Our
Speaker 5: brain kind of fills in the gaps, and some people
Speaker 5: are more susceptible to suggestion than others. I mean, if
Speaker 5: if if there's some kind of frequency that's disrupting your
Speaker 5: senses you're we just talked about it earlier, your brain
Speaker 5: kind of fills in those gaps and that could explain
Speaker 5: a lot too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting that And I've always thought, guys, so if
Speaker 4: I get mind speaker, how do you know it's not
Speaker 4: your own mind?
Speaker 5: Just yeah, you know what I mean, that's kind of mine.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I don't know.
Speaker 6: But because that's why they've always wanted to ask someone
Speaker 6: that ted mind speak. I've never talked to anyone or
Speaker 6: something about like what does a voice sound like? Yeah, like,
Speaker 6: does it sound like your voice? Doesn't sound like someone
Speaker 6: else's voice? Is it a voice of someone that you know? Like,
Speaker 6: that's interesting. I've always wanted to ask someone that's experienced it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's put it out there. There may be
Speaker 4: somebody in our audience. Let's thar it out there. Ryan
Speaker 4: wants to know when you hear mine speak, is it
Speaker 4: your own voice or is it somebody else's voice? And
Speaker 4: what kind of voices it's there? You go, So that's
Speaker 4: out there now we'll see and that somebody interview are
Speaker 4: watching this non live. You can put it in the
Speaker 4: actual real comments on like YouTube there you can write
Speaker 4: up the comments so we'd like to know. We'll check
Speaker 4: back and we'll read them and we'll get back to you,
Speaker 4: right Ryan, You'll check them, you might get your they
Speaker 4: might make a contact with somebody that can give you
Speaker 4: your answers. Okay, So do you think these bigfoot creatures
Speaker 4: would hurt anybody? Do you know of any instances? Do
Speaker 4: you think that they're dangerous? Do you think they're safe?
Speaker 4: Do you think that all this kind of stuff is
Speaker 4: just imitation and blustery behavior? So what are your thoughts
Speaker 4: on that?
Speaker 6: So when it when I bring it up ideas of
Speaker 6: like bigfoot is a dangerous any animal is dangerous, Like
Speaker 6: if if a dog has a bad digging still bite you,
Speaker 6: are they malicious though auty purposefully hunting humans and things
Speaker 6: like that. I don't believe so, because let's be honest,
Speaker 6: if big food is out there hunting humans that yeostone
Speaker 6: would it wouldn't exist. Uh, all these national parks wouldn't exist.
Speaker 6: But I believe if they were put in the corner,
Speaker 6: if they were young, were involved, there is dangerous any
Speaker 6: other animals, and even more dangerous because of the intelligence.
Speaker 6: Like if there was a let's just say, a troop
Speaker 6: of bigfoot and one hunt humans, we wouldn't know about
Speaker 6: it because they probably be so intelligent, you wouldn't you
Speaker 6: wouldn't have any I guess survivors. I guess you would say,
Speaker 6: but all these animals dangerous, Yes, but I don't think
Speaker 6: they're malicious hunting out humans like some type of monsters
Speaker 6: in the wools. It's because if you look at non
Speaker 6: primatology known behaviors of primates, they're more likely to scare
Speaker 6: you away than truly go and kill you. For instance, gorillas,
Speaker 6: there's no known instances of gorillas killing humans in the wild.
Speaker 6: There's only been things that have happened in captivity.
Speaker 4: There's been like a bite on occasion.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and even then like thing of like chest pouting
Speaker 6: from a gorilla that's more likely to scare someone away
Speaker 6: than actually calls an actual tack. Chimps a little bit
Speaker 6: more violent animal. We might want to look at chimps
Speaker 6: because chimps are a little bit more aggressive than gorillas
Speaker 6: because of how they have to be, And I believe
Speaker 6: that esquatch can be that same way. I believe they're
Speaker 6: more likely to push you out of the area than
Speaker 6: truly kill you, because I think they're also intelligent enough
Speaker 6: to know if I kill this one human, there's gonna
Speaker 6: be a bunch of other humans in this new area
Speaker 6: looking either looking for them or maybe police force looking
Speaker 6: for their body. I think it might be intelligent enough
Speaker 6: to know that. I think they're more likely to scare
Speaker 6: you off than truly and actually injure someone. It's intimidation tactics,
Speaker 6: things like rock doing, maybe even infrasound stick doing. It's
Speaker 6: like any other primate. They're more likely to try to
Speaker 6: intimidate someone and truly call us an actual fight with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. By the way, there were two people
Speaker 4: steamboat and somebody else had said it is not your
Speaker 4: own voice, it's a different voice. If you guys want
Speaker 4: to just throw more comments up, I'll post them up
Speaker 4: and try to get included in the in the conversation comments,
Speaker 4: there were two people. They were saying, yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 4: what's happened to me. Oh and then of course you
Speaker 4: get this stuff. This is people are putting down what
Speaker 4: they what they know to be true, that they've heard.
Speaker 4: And you know, as crazy as it sounds, it sounds
Speaker 4: like your hat's too tight their brother, little foot. But
Speaker 4: I'm just joking. I mean, if this is what you've
Speaker 4: heard and you're laying it honestly to us. Then that's
Speaker 4: what it is. So, you know, it sounds crazy. All
Speaker 4: this stuff sounds crazy, so so does the guy that
Speaker 4: discovered the electric eel. Sounded like a crazy man too.
Speaker 6: That's the thing I always tell people, I can't call
Speaker 6: anyone crazy. I'm out there looking for big foot in
Speaker 6: the woods.
Speaker 4: Ryan, you need to get a hold of I got
Speaker 4: Eric's number. You need to get a hold of him
Speaker 4: because he said he'd like to talk to you about
Speaker 4: mine speak.
Speaker 6: Of course I love to discuss it with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Eric's a pretty serious guy, so it just
Speaker 4: seems like a really honest guy. And once again, we
Speaker 4: don't know if it's really coming from a telepathic message.
Speaker 4: But yet they are proving as time goes on that
Speaker 4: telepathy is more of a real thing. And they're working
Speaker 4: with autistic children, non verbal Have you heard about this,
Speaker 4: these non verbal autistic children. Yes, And they're finding out
Speaker 4: that they are all saying that they're all communicating on
Speaker 4: a regular basis with all of the other nonverbal kids.
Speaker 4: They have a meeting place they go to. And how
Speaker 4: are these kids all going to be telling these researchers
Speaker 4: the same thing they've never been in You know, they've
Speaker 4: never called each other on the phone, there's nothing written
Speaker 4: about it previously, and no one's ever researched it. So
Speaker 4: finally when they did, they were all saying the same
Speaker 4: name for this place that they meet. Fascinating stuff. I
Speaker 4: don't know. I'm hoping to get her on the one
Speaker 4: of the women that headed up the research on that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's pretty interesting stuff. So telepathy is what we're talking about,
Speaker 4: Bigfoots having teleopathy or being able to what's it called, Jeff,
Speaker 4: when you know it isn't just mind reading, but you're
Speaker 4: projecting your thoughts. What do they call that? There's a name.
Speaker 4: Can you look that up? If you don't know what's
Speaker 4: the term for that? I could like mind speak to Ryan.
Speaker 4: He would like, oh, what the hell's going on? I
Speaker 4: hear this guy's voice. That would be broadcasting basically. So
Speaker 4: it's fast stuff, so fascinating, and I'm the last guy
Speaker 4: to poop poop future I call it poo poo in
Speaker 4: future science. Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like that's the thing I always tell people is
Speaker 6: that the stuff that was once magic is just today science.
Speaker 6: The stuff that right now is seen as weird or
Speaker 6: beyond science. In ten five years we'll have PI researchers
Speaker 6: and have a new science with a new ology behind it.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: The only term I could find is telepathic projection.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, projection. I did use the right word.
Speaker 6: Because I was thinking, ask a projection, But I know
Speaker 6: that's the body of moving, so I don't think that.
Speaker 4: I right, it's not astual, that's like more of a
Speaker 4: soul moving. But psychic projection would be weird if you
Speaker 4: had that power and you could just like, like, I
Speaker 4: swear to God, so when does this happen to me?
Speaker 4: One time? And it's never happened to me since I
Speaker 4: was on an airline and I swear to God, I
Speaker 4: was hearing mind speak from one of the stewardesses, and
Speaker 4: it was it was really weird and it was no,
Speaker 4: don't say it was nothing sexual or nothing like that.
Speaker 4: It was just somebody who somehow knew that I could
Speaker 4: hear her and started speaking to me and then looked
Speaker 4: at me and winked at me, like, ohoh. And I've
Speaker 4: never talked about this because I've kind of just forgotten
Speaker 4: about it many years ago. But I was wondering about
Speaker 4: that and then I kind of forgot about it. So
Speaker 4: you're just getting me thinking about that. That was weird
Speaker 4: where I could hear this during the entire flight, this
Speaker 4: woman talking to me telling me all sorts of things
Speaker 4: and it was in her voice. So there you go,
Speaker 4: Steve goes Doug. I'm projecting a place to you right now.
Speaker 4: What island? Am I thinking? Okay, well, I'll just I'll
Speaker 4: think it's it's it's kind of a weird thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: nothing's coming through. Nothing's coming through. I'm in my sound proof.
Speaker 4: Maybe it will, we'll see.
Speaker 6: Like stuff like that. It's really interesting to me because,
Speaker 6: for instance, a couple of months ago, I went to
Speaker 6: a symposium that was all remote viewers, and being that
Speaker 6: in person was really opened up my eyes and stuff
Speaker 6: like this because for long ast time I would like
Speaker 6: what you said, pooh pooh future science. But my note,
Speaker 6: you got to keep that open mind and every idea
Speaker 6: like no, stuff like this does occur and it does happen.
Speaker 4: Wow. So the only thing that popped into my mind
Speaker 4: for some weird reason was Key West. I don't know
Speaker 4: why that popped into my mind. So there you go. Okay,
Speaker 4: So why do we want to take this conversation. I
Speaker 4: love talking to you, Ryan, yeah, I love what I think.
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, Okay, what are our options here? I
Speaker 4: want to talk about uh where, what they eat? And
Speaker 4: I've always had this theory that there's a lot more
Speaker 4: of these things than we think. So I want to
Speaker 4: ask you about how many you think there are. It's
Speaker 4: going to be a multi part question. How many do
Speaker 4: you think there might be in North America including Canada?
Speaker 4: What they what their foods might be, and do you
Speaker 4: think like I do, that they punch into the edges
Speaker 4: quite often of suburbs, you know, where there's good corridors,
Speaker 4: and probably stay even for a while because we have
Speaker 4: so many deer and other thing at the edges. I
Speaker 4: think you were on Barnaby Show at one point, weren't you,
Speaker 4: And that's called monsters on the edge. So okay, so
Speaker 4: let's talk about edges and uh in what the yeah?
Speaker 4: In population yep, Okay.
Speaker 6: To break down a population question, I'm trying to remember
Speaker 6: the equation I used once, because there's a certain equation
Speaker 6: you can use with square areas and all that, and
Speaker 6: income of calories. I would say probably between two to
Speaker 6: four thousand sasquatch a little cross the United States and
Speaker 6: Canada because I believe they would have a large area
Speaker 6: of territory and if you look at the coloaque needs
Speaker 6: for these creatures, it would be fairly high. But I
Speaker 6: would say they would have the cloak needs to about
Speaker 6: greasily bear to a black bear, because how much they
Speaker 6: would need for especially the large brains. If I had
Speaker 6: it in front of me, I would have the equation
Speaker 6: I've used before on the mathematics of it. But the
Speaker 6: mathemats work, I just don't have it in front of me.
Speaker 6: But if you look at sabsquatch compared to known creatures,
Speaker 6: one animal that a lot of people, compared to a
Speaker 6: black bears. Black bears need about two t times the
Speaker 6: needs of humans. So I would say, okay, let's take
Speaker 6: a sasquatch. Look, let's get the colorak needs of these animals,
Speaker 6: and compared to known species like black bears, I would
Speaker 6: say that they would have the population of about one
Speaker 6: sasquatch through every one hundred black bearts across the United States.
Speaker 6: If you break that down, it's about two to three
Speaker 6: thousand individuals. Because I say these animals would have large
Speaker 6: terri toys, having probably one or two family groups and.
Speaker 4: Every okay, well, let's pack the truck up on that formula. Okay,
Speaker 4: so one bigfoot compared to one hundred black bears? Correct? Yes, okay,
Speaker 4: so Minnesota we have forty thousand black bears just Minnesota. Well,
Speaker 4: that would be one out of one hundred. Would that
Speaker 4: be four thousand?
Speaker 6: Yeah, four thousand.
Speaker 4: We have four thousand big foots in just Minnesota.
Speaker 6: One to die saying the wrong numbers. I guess one
Speaker 6: to a thousand, one to a thousand, about forty satsquatch
Speaker 6: in one state, So that would well.
Speaker 4: No, that would put it at in some states like
Speaker 4: four hundred, which would make total sense. Yes, that's one
Speaker 4: thing too.
Speaker 6: Is also like genetic drift is how because you can't
Speaker 6: have too small of a population that their genetics wouldn't
Speaker 6: work out like in breeding and stuff like that. But
Speaker 6: also you'd have to have a population that can't be
Speaker 6: too big because they would be detected. So I do
Speaker 6: think that also they would live alongside like known by
Speaker 6: suburban areas. There's been plenty of signings of sasquatch, maybe
Speaker 6: even entering like suburban areas where you wouldn't expect them,
Speaker 6: but thanks to like green spaces and water rays and
Speaker 6: things like that they're able to hide away from humans.
Speaker 6: I think these animals would be able to probably steal trash.
Speaker 6: There's were stories of them eating pets, things like that.
Speaker 6: Livestock killings by sasquatch would be very common in certain
Speaker 6: suburban areas because these animals us smart enough to avoid
Speaker 6: humans but also know where the food is. Look At
Speaker 6: how bears are, look at how deer are. Like literally
Speaker 6: here in San Antonio the other day, I was driving
Speaker 6: a middletown and almost had a white tailed deer crossing
Speaker 6: the street. When does literally skyscrapers the next block.
Speaker 4: Over, Yeah, raps with antlers. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So if these no animals can do it, why wouldn't
Speaker 6: a sashquatch do it? I say, especially if there are waterways,
Speaker 6: if there are green spaces where these animals can easily
Speaker 6: get to, they would do it. And it's kind of
Speaker 6: the areas that they know humans wouldn't enter, or like,
Speaker 6: let's just say there's creeks where they can ease across
Speaker 6: the creek, across the water and humans might not want
Speaker 6: to follow follow them. That's something they would look for.
Speaker 6: And I believe the suburban sasquatch is a thing, and
Speaker 6: I think these animals are intelligent enough to go out
Speaker 6: at night.
Speaker 4: Humans aren't relay around.
Speaker 6: Also, let's be honest, a lot you know exactly have
Speaker 6: night vision either. So if a sasquad is able to
Speaker 6: maybe hide behind a tree or something like that, it's
Speaker 6: if it stays still enough, we might just be able
Speaker 6: to not see it, or maybe just see that's a bear,
Speaker 6: because I think a lot of times these animals do
Speaker 6: go on a fours. There's a lot of signs of
Speaker 6: him getting down on all fours and walking away, and
Speaker 6: I think that for one to hide. And also I
Speaker 6: think they're trying to prick our brains and the thinking
Speaker 6: that we just saw there, yaw sasquat.
Speaker 4: That is interesting.
Speaker 8: And so.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'll tell you just a brief one of
Speaker 4: my on Fords walking stories. I was talking to a
Speaker 4: friend of mine who's a Native American jiboy guy, and
Speaker 4: I've been asking him for years and years and years,
Speaker 4: and he was a wildlife manager and blah blah blah,
Speaker 4: super brilliant guy. And I kept bugging him, I know
Speaker 4: you've seen one of these things. Why won't you admit
Speaker 4: it to me? We're buds. Ain't gonna say anything. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give anybody your name, and saying, and
Speaker 4: you just would go, no, I've never seen one, never
Speaker 4: seen one.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 4: After about like five years of taking on the guy,
Speaker 4: one day, I'm had dinner with him and his mom
Speaker 4: and his dad, and all of a sudden, he just
Speaker 4: blurted out, all right, I'll tell you my story. And
Speaker 4: he says he was with a group of other people
Speaker 4: back when he was, you know, younger, he was just
Speaker 4: getting into forest management, and a bigfoot came across a
Speaker 4: big giant log pile and it was on all fours Ryan,
Speaker 4: and it went and it went over the top of
Speaker 4: the log pile so smooth and low, like it was
Speaker 4: on its fingers, like walking on its fingers. It came
Speaker 4: down the log pile, got to the backside, stood up
Speaker 4: and walked into the woods. But the way it went
Speaker 4: across the log pile was like almost like a snake wood.
Speaker 4: And why he wouldn't tell me that story for five
Speaker 4: years and then just suddenly blurted out his mom hit
Speaker 4: him in the shoulder, you know, just joking. She goes,
Speaker 4: you never told us that story, she was, But the
Speaker 4: fact that we describe that and this guy doesn't do
Speaker 4: any big of a research, Like he's never once read
Speaker 4: anything on the internet or looked at YouTube. It's not
Speaker 4: that kind of guy. You're just telling the story of
Speaker 4: what happened, and yet it matches with other reports i've heard.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's interesting thing that you brought up that
Speaker 6: he said was walking with its hands, because a lot
Speaker 6: of stories you would think these animals were walking on
Speaker 6: their knuckles, but a lot of stories that I've heard,
Speaker 6: it's them walking on their hands like how we do,
Speaker 6: like how humans do. And could that be from maybe
Speaker 6: what it would to give him a little bit more traction,
Speaker 6: what to give him maybe a little less sound, because
Speaker 6: if you're hitting with your palm and you know, open hands,
Speaker 6: it gives you a little more traction than with your knuckles.
Speaker 6: And so that's interesting how a lot of people talk
Speaker 6: about when they're walking on the forest, then I'm knuckle
Speaker 6: walking there opening with the open hands.
Speaker 4: Like a human. Yeah, I've never heard that from other
Speaker 4: people too. It's it's like creepy looking, yeah, like they
Speaker 4: just kind.
Speaker 6: Of I didn't call it a spider walk.
Speaker 4: I've heard peo. Yeah, yeah, but the way this guy
Speaker 4: described it gets sent chills up my body the way
Speaker 4: you described it, just smoothly going up this bag. I
Speaker 4: mean we're talking a log pile like twenty feet igh
Speaker 4: and all the top and then down and then get
Speaker 4: stood up instantly and just walked up right into the forest. Wow.
Speaker 4: But it didn't think it didn't think it was being watched. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but god, that would be so weird to see.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's kind of the idea of like if
Speaker 6: you have a big foot signing and kind of have
Speaker 6: an idea what bigfoot looks like, but then if they
Speaker 6: hit something like that, like walking on old fours or
Speaker 6: do something that's not expected, it creeps us out of
Speaker 6: it kind of nate fear kicks in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well gain, it's kind of like the uncanny valley.
Speaker 5: It's just something off about it. It's just unnatural.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But even like that, think about it too, if you
Speaker 6: saw someone running at you an old fors, you still
Speaker 6: have the same effect of like a lot of people
Speaker 6: freak out because they know how many times in horle
Speaker 6: movies they use that same trope of someone running at
Speaker 6: you an old fors. It just that uncanny valleys just
Speaker 6: something like in our brains that just makes us afraid of.
Speaker 4: It, Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's like a primordial fear
Speaker 4: of being carried off, yeah, or dragged off. Bill, the
Speaker 4: late Bill Burns, who was I was interviewing him because
Speaker 4: he owned the King Kong, the original King Kong armature
Speaker 4: they used for the original nineteen it was a nineteen
Speaker 4: oh one or whatever it was movie nineteen twenty or something,
Speaker 4: that armager that they used for the stop action. Oh wow,
Speaker 4: he was. He had his whole house is full of
Speaker 4: like memorabilia way off, so he studies his stuff. Then
Speaker 4: I asked him, I said, why do you think people
Speaker 4: are so afraid of big boots? And he goes, because
Speaker 4: they could drag you off, hold you hostage if they
Speaker 4: wanted to, and each you or hurt you at any
Speaker 4: point they wanted. You know, they're there, very human like,
Speaker 4: and that scares us.
Speaker 6: To And it's funny how you bring that up, because
Speaker 6: think about it, when the gorilla was first discovered, how
Speaker 6: many stories were brought up of gorillas grabbing young maidens
Speaker 6: and running off into the woods. I'm trying to think
Speaker 6: the one who sculpted, but I noticed a famous sculpture
Speaker 6: of a gorilla on its two on two legs grabbing
Speaker 6: a woman and running off with it, running off with her.
Speaker 6: But it's funny how those stories are so prevalent, but
Speaker 6: they were looking to the modern day. Gorillas don't do that.
Speaker 6: There's no stories of gorillas kidnapping people, especially adults. There
Speaker 6: are stories of chimps kidnapping kids in the past, and
Speaker 6: that's mostly for a predatory reason, but yet they still
Speaker 6: still persist. And look at the Native American traditions of
Speaker 6: sasquatch grabbing women and running off into the hills with them.
Speaker 6: It's the same story, but two different continents. And it's
Speaker 6: kind of an interesting fact of like our fear of
Speaker 6: green grabbing running off wood.
Speaker 4: But by the WAYMNGSI mentioned here he goes and I
Speaker 4: got to talk to him before he died, and he
Speaker 4: was he was in England, and I had a nice
Speaker 4: conversation and I told him when I was a kid,
Speaker 4: I watched all of his movies, like The Blue Rose
Speaker 4: and The Simbads. I mean we would sit there, we
Speaker 4: would be excited. I mean, my sister would be so
Speaker 4: excited when one of his movies would come on. We'd
Speaker 4: plan this thing the whole day to watch one of
Speaker 4: his movies. And he was he was. He was really
Speaker 4: sweet to me on the phone and I interviewed him.
Speaker 4: But man, what a what a visionary that guy was brilliant,
Speaker 4: brilliant guy. Yeah, they don't play any of his old
Speaker 4: movies anymore. They're great too. I just love those watches.
Speaker 4: Can you buy them somewhere? I think they're they're aware, Jeff.
Speaker 5: I think I'm almost positive they're streaming, because yeah, because
Speaker 5: I've seen I've seen them. I've seen the sin Bad
Speaker 5: Ones recently, really, Jason the Argonauts recently.
Speaker 4: You know how cool that was to talk to that guy.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine a.
Speaker 4: Huge Oh man, that was so cool. I just thought
Speaker 4: a big deal.
Speaker 5: He was something else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know, when I was a kid, I
Speaker 4: never would have envisioned it. You know, when I grew up.
Speaker 5: His last movie was Clash of the Titans. I think
Speaker 5: that was the very last, very job.
Speaker 4: And he was old when I talked to him, but man,
Speaker 4: he was still still with it, and I would have
Speaker 4: magine that was what's going on? How many years ago,
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, even older, maybe longer than that. I'm like,
Speaker 4: he can't be alive anymore. No way, It's funny how
Speaker 4: we passed. We make people pass away, just based on
Speaker 4: how many years it's been. He died thirteen, Yeah, that
Speaker 4: makes sense. Yeah, because I was I was doing Monster
Speaker 4: Quest when I was talking to him. Actually, I was
Speaker 4: working on Giganto. That would have been two thousand and
Speaker 4: five when I talked to him. So he died when.
Speaker 5: Jeff twenty thirteen at age ninety two.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, wow cool. I was just shocked he was
Speaker 4: alive when I talked to him, Like, how does this
Speaker 4: make sense? He must have been like eighteen when you
Speaker 4: were making those those sin bad movies.
Speaker 5: The sin Bad movies came up the first Accountant fifty eight.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, so he would have been thirty eight in
Speaker 5: his thirties.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, it's just weird. I don't know. That
Speaker 4: was just a dream for me.
Speaker 5: Did he did? Creature a lot of the cheesy fifty Yeah.
Speaker 4: Scared for your kids, the cyclops and the all the
Speaker 4: stuffy you're good conversation. Oh lord, well, I don't even
Speaker 4: remember what we were talking. We were talking about finger
Speaker 4: and handwalking. Yeah, but let's talk about tree climbing. I
Speaker 4: once again, nobody ever talks about do they climb freaking trees?
Speaker 6: Or I believe they do because think about it, if
Speaker 6: you're always looking on the ground fall, and if it's
Speaker 6: a large enough tree to hold the weight and all day,
Speaker 6: I think they would be able to climb the tree.
Speaker 6: Because also if you look at the foot structure, the
Speaker 6: mint horsle break, the min's also break in the foot.
Speaker 6: Of course, it's a discovery made by the late Jeff
Speaker 6: Melchum and sasquatch footprints that along the fast watch foot
Speaker 6: it kind of breaks in the middle, and that's not
Speaker 6: a from early hominids like paranthropus, early humanoid humans. That's
Speaker 6: good for tree climbing, and so could they be using
Speaker 6: that for climbing in the trees. I believe, especially the
Speaker 6: younger ones got to because I think if you're young,
Speaker 6: a young sasquatch, maybe the size of maybe like a
Speaker 6: given to a chimpanzee, you could easily climb up in
Speaker 6: a tree and avoid predators things like that. But also
Speaker 6: it would be a kind of idea of detection. Maybe
Speaker 6: could they be using this as a former hunting Imagine
Speaker 6: an elk walking by a tree and there's a fixed
Speaker 6: foot tall ten foot tall bigfoot up in a tree
Speaker 6: down on it.
Speaker 4: But elk, but Ryan I just personally, haven't really had
Speaker 4: any personal stories. I have heard a few, you know,
Speaker 4: out there, but I've never had anybody go, oh, man,
Speaker 4: I saw one leap out of a tree.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard. I haven't heard any personal stories either.
Speaker 6: I've heard like anecdotes and stuff like that of people
Speaker 6: seeing like eyeshine up and like trow footsall up in
Speaker 6: a tree that was too large to be an owl,
Speaker 6: things like that, but I haven't heard any like personal
Speaker 6: stories of them up in trees. But I think they
Speaker 6: would be able to use them.
Speaker 5: Well, we've heard lots of stories about then climbing steep
Speaker 5: rugged terrain. Yeah, very quick. Yeah, it's very common story,
Speaker 5: is right, Well, that's mountain sides and cliffs. I mean
Speaker 5: it was climbing.
Speaker 4: Really really stepped through gate. Jeff. You realize the way
Speaker 4: they walk is exactly like a Peruvian horse walks with
Speaker 4: the same kind of a gate, and I call it
Speaker 4: the mountain gate. And proving horses also are naturally gated horses,
Speaker 4: and they've been bred to climb mountains. And I did
Speaker 4: a TV story on proving horses back in the eighties
Speaker 4: and I was like filming with a ten thousand shutter speed.
Speaker 4: You know, it was filming the back, you know, of
Speaker 4: proving horse is walking away from me, and it was
Speaker 4: so weird the way they twisted their legs and blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, and that stuck with me. And then years ago,
Speaker 4: years later, like, oh my god, twenty years later, I'm
Speaker 4: studying the Patterson film and I noted the exact same
Speaker 4: lake movement that haunted me from the Peruvian horses. And
Speaker 4: then I called at the Mountain Gate. I thought, well,
Speaker 4: no other people can take it. You know, they can
Speaker 4: research this and people who are into locomotion, and blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. That was just you know, ho hum. Nobody cared.
Speaker 4: And I even talked about on National TV numerous times
Speaker 4: and it just said it never it never got any traction.
Speaker 4: Oh of what you can see in the Patterson film,
Speaker 4: if you think three D versus two D or one D,
Speaker 4: really look at it and go, okay, now, what if
Speaker 4: that thing's walking towards me? What if it's walking in
Speaker 4: a way? What am I going to see? On Patterson?
Speaker 4: And the legs wallow out, the legs twist and they
Speaker 4: kind of go knock need and then out and in
Speaker 4: and out and in kind of a you know kind
Speaker 4: of like that. Yeah, and then they put the one
Speaker 4: foot in front and the other one, but everything's twisting.
Speaker 4: It's really interesting. So anyway, once again crickets like shut.
Speaker 6: It makes and know it makes sense because that's something
Speaker 6: I bring up with sasquatch is when you look at
Speaker 6: the morphology these creatures, you look at how they walk,
Speaker 6: you look at the foot structure, you look at the
Speaker 6: even the hand structure. These animals are built full of
Speaker 6: rough terrain, things like the rocky mountains, stuff like that.
Speaker 6: And that's one thing people bring up is they you
Speaker 6: know these things human, are these non human? I believe
Speaker 6: in non humanness from the morphology, but also I think
Speaker 6: these animals evolved and adapted for North America. They're not
Speaker 6: built for somewhere else. They're built fold as consonant and
Speaker 6: like look at the A lot of people don't talk
Speaker 6: about this either, Doug is the hand structure is when
Speaker 6: you look at there's not there's not a lot of them.
Speaker 6: But the examples of sasquatch handprints a very non human.
Speaker 6: The distantly placed thumb that's placed low down on the hand,
Speaker 6: very similar to gorilla, the stub your fingers that wouldn't
Speaker 6: have what we call precision grip. So it shows a
Speaker 6: hand it's very much it's strong, but wouldn't maybe necessarily
Speaker 6: have the dexterity of like a human hand, which is
Speaker 6: interesting because I believe last year about maybe September October,
Speaker 6: there's a research on parentthepus, which was a non human
Speaker 6: primate that was off an offshoot of allsopiphesies that existed
Speaker 6: in Africa that had a very similar hand structure. It
Speaker 6: was distantly placed thumb with stub your fingers that was
Speaker 6: more of a strength based hand than a precision like
Speaker 6: grip based hand. And this is almost exactly the same
Speaker 6: morphology scene and a few Sasquatch handprints that we see.
Speaker 4: By the way, just I'm gonna throw this out there
Speaker 4: to you. Cliff Bruckman is collecting quite a collection of
Speaker 4: newer stuff they're finding, and if you like, call Nico
Speaker 4: over there at the North American Bigfoot Museum, uh, you
Speaker 4: may be able to get some photos from them of
Speaker 4: some newer handprints that they've gotten. But it's just nobody
Speaker 4: has really collected all of the handprints over the country
Speaker 4: and put them in one place. It would be really
Speaker 4: cool if they did.
Speaker 6: That, you know, Yeah, handsome too, Yeah, because I know
Speaker 6: some of the most welles out of Freeman Freeman ones.
Speaker 6: I noticed a couple from a march created a couple
Speaker 6: but up in Bosburg. I believe they might have called
Speaker 6: I believe they collated with a cripple foot footprints, But
Speaker 6: I know, like the few examples I know of with
Speaker 6: handprints shows almost an exact same mophology, which is interesting
Speaker 6: because of course Bigfoot's known for the footprints, but what
Speaker 6: can the handprints say about it? And that's a that's
Speaker 6: a piece of research. I don't think a lot of
Speaker 6: people have really looked at it.
Speaker 4: And it's not your I agree, it's not. It's not
Speaker 4: looked out much. It doesn't mean I'm not working on it.
Speaker 4: It might be. And there's just so many things that
Speaker 4: are just really discussed with big What trees are one
Speaker 4: of them? Yeah, And I've also I thought about them
Speaker 4: using trees for travel, like not tree to tree, but
Speaker 4: using their longer arms to grab trees to kind of
Speaker 4: propel themselves forward, if that makes any sense. In other words,
Speaker 4: they use the left shoot, yeah, a little bit to
Speaker 4: the right, but then then they do the opposite back
Speaker 4: and forth. Then they could brub you know, launch I
Speaker 4: guess catapult themselves forward. And that's that has been witness
Speaker 4: but it's never talked about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's a lot of things that especially when
Speaker 6: you look at the researchers, it's kind of an idea
Speaker 6: of like it's talked amongst the researchers, but not really
Speaker 6: talked to the bigger world of like bigfoot research. Like
Speaker 6: another thing I looked at is when you look at
Speaker 6: bigfoot ideas, when you look at the anatomy of it,
Speaker 6: it's kind of people don't like to talk about it.
Speaker 6: But the posterior sasquatch, it's a lutch, it's a larger
Speaker 6: posterior like gluteal muscles and sasquatch because they're bipedal primate, right,
Speaker 6: And that's something I hear the researchers talk about and
Speaker 6: somebody witnesses bring up, but you don't hear to like,
Speaker 6: as you say, layman a bigfoot talk about things like
Speaker 6: could they be using trees like this? Could they be
Speaker 6: climbing trees?
Speaker 4: What the he be doing?
Speaker 6: Knuckle walking? What he be using palm walking. It's stuff
Speaker 6: you talked about by like the researchers, but not really
Speaker 6: like the people watching shows like Finding Bigfoot or Monster
Speaker 6: Quest and things like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just I don't know, it's not talked about.
Speaker 4: It needs to be. The vernacular for bigfoot research needs
Speaker 4: to expand. Yes, there needs to be uh terms sometimes
Speaker 4: maybe even applied to it, like the spiderwalk that whoever
Speaker 4: named it that it might have been. Was it Wes
Speaker 4: Germer that named the spider I can't think.
Speaker 6: I can't think of the first person too used the
Speaker 6: but I've heard a couple of times.
Speaker 4: I think it was Wes Germer, but I'll give them
Speaker 4: gratified it's but with that then term caught on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that is now being discussed, which is great.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's kind of thing I talked about, is
Speaker 6: like the nomenclature game. That's something that's really important to me,
Speaker 6: is like naming of it because there's been so many
Speaker 6: times I've talked to people like, oh, I saw a
Speaker 6: white bigfoot, I saw YETI And I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: totally different things seen in totally different area. Just because
Speaker 6: you saw something white doesn't mean you saw a big
Speaker 6: YETI and yet isn't even white in the first place.
Speaker 6: Totally different thing right there. But things of like people
Speaker 6: using like what we talked about earlier with the dog
Speaker 6: man phenomena, people see more dog man now just because
Speaker 6: it has a name to it. And even Bigfoot for
Speaker 6: the longest time, wild man, sasquatch, and if you looked
Speaker 6: at like the old newspapers and a bigfoot signing, see
Speaker 6: they don't of course, they don't use bigfoot, they use
Speaker 6: wild man, gorilla, chimp, things like that. The nomenclature in
Speaker 6: this field is really important.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need well we need terms anyhow, really cool
Speaker 4: terms to just name, like different things. Like Hilley Covington.
Speaker 4: I was talking to her about the sea bomb and
Speaker 4: the hand prints, and I said, Jelly, you should name
Speaker 4: this stuff. She came up with alba vernex, Yeah, saw squatch.
Speaker 4: Alba vernux in all but means white. And the vernux
Speaker 4: is obviously like the wax that's on like newborn babies. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the thick wax. And that's kind of what it seems like.
Speaker 4: And I talked to snow White Bigfoot the other day
Speaker 4: and she had a she's had multiple ones. She had
Speaker 4: a handprint on a door and it started to like
Speaker 4: crystallize from the probably extra salt in it. As my
Speaker 4: guests photographed it really well. But it's starting. I mean,
Speaker 4: it won't be the first one I've seen crystallize where
Speaker 4: it starts forming like salt crystals on it and we'll
Speaker 4: have salt in our sea. Bum. I mean, you have
Speaker 4: to have a lot of salt still catalysting and crystallizing. Right.
Speaker 6: It's interesting because a good friend of mine, Texas Wesson,
Speaker 6: he's a researcher up in uh he does a lot
Speaker 6: of big for research in central Oklahoma, and he has
Speaker 6: a handprint on one of his trucks and you took
Speaker 6: a picture of it, and I brought up a picture
Speaker 6: of one of the handprints discovered up in Washington, and
Speaker 6: it's almost the exact same detail. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 6: these are two pieces of evidence that are decades apart,
Speaker 6: thousands and miles apart, but it's the same, exact, same anatomy. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And that's something I bring up with especially big for
Speaker 6: researcher research, is that there's so many correlations. And the
Speaker 6: question I always get from people, of course, is was
Speaker 6: the best evidence for Bigfoot? And people bring up course
Speaker 6: big for prints, I witness, testimony videos, I say, it's
Speaker 6: all of it and none of it at the same time.
Speaker 6: It's the correlations that's the consistency. It's the consistency like look, yeah.
Speaker 4: Know what, you know what the consistency I love more
Speaker 4: than anything is the consistency of sightings. The geographic problem,
Speaker 4: it's a geographic issue. It happens near woods, water and
Speaker 4: hills or at least you know, two of those ingredients.
Speaker 4: You don't get them in downtown Vegas. If it if
Speaker 4: it was made up, the sightings would happen in all
Speaker 4: sorts of weird places. But the fact you can lay
Speaker 4: I have a transparency of a river, a map of
Speaker 4: the sightings on transparent see through map below it. You
Speaker 4: lay that on there, colle eats not even a little bit.
Speaker 4: It's perfect.
Speaker 6: And even like seasonal sighting. Its like when people map
Speaker 6: eye witness counts and you take in like certain times
Speaker 6: of season. Like one thing, I know a lot of
Speaker 6: log issues don't do trying to see nationwide with the sightings.
Speaker 6: Could we find migratory routes? Could we see and certain
Speaker 6: I know, I'm trying to think which the Monster Cross
Speaker 6: episode when you it was the snow Beast. They could
Speaker 6: tell when there's certain elevations at certain times of the
Speaker 6: year where the ungulates were, they were bigfoot sightings. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so that's even showing that.
Speaker 4: We did that was in that I think it was
Speaker 4: in a show we did uh I produced called snow
Speaker 4: Beast Slaughter. I hated that title. Yeah, that was my title.
Speaker 4: Somebody who made me use that. But it was a
Speaker 4: show because we did g I s on the seasonal
Speaker 4: sightings and during certain times of the year that all
Speaker 4: the all the sightings were.
Speaker 6: In this area.
Speaker 4: That's consistency is beyond I mean it literally beyond a proof.
Speaker 4: It shows that we're dealing with a living creature here. Yes, And.
Speaker 6: And all the people that say, well, it's not real,
Speaker 6: it's not because I'm like, well, look at the coalitions
Speaker 6: of a consistency between this these creatures and known zoology,
Speaker 6: known biology uh Bergman's law. Bergman's law states that when
Speaker 6: you get the higher u higher latitudes colder areas, animals
Speaker 6: get bigger. When you get the lower latitudes or pottery areas,
Speaker 6: animals get smaller. You see that with footprint sidings and
Speaker 6: the sidings bigfoots up in Alaska and Canada. I believe
Speaker 6: a lot there's no signings of like eleven foot tall
Speaker 6: foot tall sasquatch, while here in like part of Texas,
Speaker 6: most signs are usually seven to eight foot tall. It's
Speaker 6: maybe one or two nine feet tall signings. But you
Speaker 6: see that same quarter law too.
Speaker 4: The creatures in Texas are a little smaller than they
Speaker 4: are up in you know, Alaska.
Speaker 6: Everything's big in Texas except for bigfoot wet it.
Speaker 4: So your deer aren't as big as the either because
Speaker 4: of Bergman's law. The white tailed deer or bigger in Minnesota,
Speaker 4: considerably bigger.
Speaker 6: Yeah there, and that's also because of a cold because
Speaker 6: the ratio betweing uh in and volume. If you have
Speaker 6: more volume but less skin, you you release less heat.
Speaker 6: Like elephant ears in Africa are larger. You guys are
Speaker 6: trying to get ready to heat the elephant ears and
Speaker 6: asia smaller kids are trying to pertain to heat to
Speaker 6: an extent. That's why like manif ears were smaller.
Speaker 4: Very interesting, Jeff, we've got like ten minutes. Yeah, we're
Speaker 4: pushing the clock, Ryan, because we're having having a very interesting,
Speaker 4: great conversation. Heck yeah, we're doing Doug's three hour tour.
Speaker 4: Have been accused of It's like, oh, here we go again.
Speaker 4: The Doug's three hour tour. I believe.
Speaker 6: I believe in it because this is something that need
Speaker 6: to be talking about. Discussion, conversation.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: I hate to be the person always things the same,
Speaker 6: the thing, but I'm like, conversation is something that's lacking nowadays.
Speaker 6: And that's why I love going to conferences and stuff
Speaker 6: like that because it shows people having like minded conversations
Speaker 6: that aren't yellow at each.
Speaker 4: Opern and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Oh, people that have different ideals that come and find
Speaker 6: the middle ground and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Kim Christiansen said somebody, and it's true, we
Speaker 4: should have a name. She said, we need vernacular like
Speaker 4: they have for alls or it's other animals. Good, it's
Speaker 4: got her thinking for a baby or instead of juvenile crap,
Speaker 4: we should have vernacular. So I'm going to sign that
Speaker 4: to you, Ryan. So I want you to come up
Speaker 4: with a name and officially name them and put it
Speaker 4: in one of your books. Someday, name a baby Bigfoot.
Speaker 4: It is called a newborn, you know, a young real young. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you gotta think about that and you should name it. Okay.
Speaker 6: I think if there's any known names for like a
Speaker 6: baby Chip or baby Guerrilla well, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: Speaking of his books, I'm gonna put I want to
Speaker 5: put these up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got his book covers here to promote his books.
Speaker 4: Perfect the world, rid of that text. Let's see it.
Speaker 5: There, there we go and then uh and there we go.
Speaker 4: No, it's really cool. You gotta be really proud of yourself.
Speaker 4: I mean, for a young three freaking books out, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yep, and uh, hopefully trying to look at my foe
Speaker 6: foot right now. But honestly, I'm one of those people
Speaker 6: that I'm proud of myself. But I wouldn't be here
Speaker 6: thanks to all the other people that have gotten me here,
Speaker 6: like for instance, like right here Beyond Bigfoot, the forwards
Speaker 6: written by one only Low and Coleman, someone that was
Speaker 6: was it still is a hero of mine. Ken Gerhard
Speaker 6: was the forward writer of my second book, and that's
Speaker 6: when he lived literally the same in here in San Antonio.
Speaker 6: But it's being from the past of researchers and talking
Speaker 6: to people like you, Doug and I, witnesses and other
Speaker 6: researchers like Cleff Berrickman and the people that really saw
Speaker 6: this community, like even like doctor Carl Schucker that have
Speaker 6: really helped me out in this research and really bring
Speaker 6: me to where I am because I feel like there's
Speaker 6: perspective and ideas and cryptosology that haven't been been brought
Speaker 6: up yet or still need to be really investigated. And
Speaker 6: that's ultimately what I'm here for is to educate others
Speaker 6: on this field, because I'm not here to try to
Speaker 6: make people think about trying to prove Bigfoot, to prove
Speaker 6: these cryptos It's about educating others and making him come
Speaker 6: to them.
Speaker 4: Confusion, Yeah, yeah, because there is so much misinformation and
Speaker 4: lack of information with the average person, right, don't you agree?
Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, I mean you take a person
Speaker 4: off the street, go to the hardware store and start
Speaker 4: asking questions, Oh, I've done all that kind of crap,
Speaker 4: and I do it. You'd be amazed the ignorance that
Speaker 4: they have on the They think one that most people
Speaker 4: think there's one, Yeah, wasn't it?
Speaker 6: Wasn't it seen in the sixties, shouldn't be dead by now?
Speaker 6: And I'm like, you know, population right, you know, because
Speaker 6: isn't like the lockness monster where people see just one.
Speaker 4: It has to be a population of it, exactly. I
Speaker 4: got to kick out of that and by the way.
Speaker 4: You know, I always want to remind people when I
Speaker 4: talk about mind speak, and it doesn't mean I know
Speaker 4: anything about it or have any opinion on it, because
Speaker 4: I don't, But I'm wanting to, you know, I want
Speaker 4: to learn. Yeah, but I haven't formed any opinion whether
Speaker 4: it's real or not real or anything because I've not
Speaker 4: experienced it. But on the same token, I think that
Speaker 4: I don't think any info like that should be buried
Speaker 4: less Stroud came forward and study I had mind speak.
Speaker 4: You know, it'd be cool to do if anybody still
Speaker 4: out there. I know there was two people in there
Speaker 4: that experience, and I would be willing to do a
Speaker 4: whole mind speak show. Just get you guys on, but
Speaker 4: just get a hold of Jeff, get him your thing,
Speaker 4: and just Jeff can write mind Speak minds and we'll
Speaker 4: contact you and we'll get you all on. We'll get
Speaker 4: like three people that have experienced it, and we'll just
Speaker 4: kind of go through it. By the way, Steamboat wanted
Speaker 4: to know what part of Texas you're in again.
Speaker 6: See located in San Antonio, Texas, so central Texas.
Speaker 4: But I do go out.
Speaker 6: I think that's how you said Fouc area that area.
Speaker 6: I do go out there every so often. I've gone
Speaker 6: out to parts of jeff I've got to Jeffson, Texas
Speaker 6: plenty of time. So East Texas is kind of a
Speaker 6: second home to my I.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, you were one of the people I
Speaker 4: was talking about Steamboat having on. I just would like
Speaker 4: to get more than one person's because it's such a
Speaker 4: crazy topic and you guys can all compare notes live
Speaker 4: on the air, so it'd be more like your show
Speaker 4: that you guys can talk.
Speaker 6: To cool to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're interested in you can you can be
Speaker 4: on to Ryan. Then you can ask questions. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: I'll invite you back and we'll get some bunch of mites.
Speaker 4: Just why not. I might get crap for it, but
Speaker 4: I don't care. I just I'm just I'm open to whatever.
Speaker 4: Let's let's get it out in the air.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then Steamboat, I'm seeing your comments, so yeah,
Speaker 6: I'll reach out to you, man, my man, because I am.
Speaker 6: I love making new contacts, especially in Texas because people
Speaker 6: forget how squatchy and how many how much stuff we
Speaker 6: have down here.
Speaker 4: Do you ever get into the swampy stuff in Eastern Texas.
Speaker 6: A couple of times. Yeah, that's one thing is I
Speaker 6: do some field investigating, but not as much as I
Speaker 6: wish I could, just working nine to five job and
Speaker 6: all that. I'm a full time educator, so that takes
Speaker 6: up a lot of my time. But I do love
Speaker 6: talking to the researchers and stuff.
Speaker 4: Up like that out there. What what What grades do
Speaker 4: you teach?
Speaker 6: I teach middle school sixth through eighth grade.
Speaker 1: I teach.
Speaker 6: I co teach us AVID program. That's kind of a
Speaker 6: couch prep course. Philosophy, ethic stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Cool, very cool, very cool. All right, we're gonna we're
Speaker 4: going to wrap up till we've covered enough stuff. So
Speaker 4: Carl wants to come on too, he'd be up for
Speaker 4: Mine Speak. So okay, Carl Steamboat. And there was somebody
Speaker 4: else in chat. I can't remember your name, but can
Speaker 4: maybe you can go through the chat Jeff, and and uh,
Speaker 4: if you're still here, then let's do a show on
Speaker 4: mind speak. And if there's anybody else, I don't care, Well,
Speaker 4: I don't care. If we get six people, I might
Speaker 4: even get a less rout on. If I get something,
Speaker 4: we'll call Less and see if he wants to pop
Speaker 4: in for.
Speaker 6: Like that is someone that I do want to meet
Speaker 6: in this field. I've not talked to less dra out yet.
Speaker 4: Cool guy. Well, so I'll be happy to ask him
Speaker 4: if i'll just tell them he pop in. We got
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of mine speak people coming on and
Speaker 4: let's let's it's air the dirty laundry. Let's get it
Speaker 4: out in the open. So let's see here. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: I think, oh, we were going to do something. Oh tech,
Speaker 4: I want to do that before we go, because I
Speaker 4: promised it. Okay, it's easy, it's easy. Yeah, go ahead, here,
Speaker 4: we're back that gaming just long enough to get my
Speaker 4: mouse working. Okay, throw up the well you do it,
Speaker 4: you have it up. Okay. So what I want to
Speaker 4: just talk about is one. I mean a lot of
Speaker 4: people who have gone cam being they've had a big
Speaker 4: Foot experience and they don't want to go anymore. People
Speaker 4: get grabbed, their head grabbed while they're in their tent.
Speaker 4: They're like, I'm not doing that anymore. And there's a
Speaker 4: lot of women who won't go with their husbands they
Speaker 4: hear the stories. So I thought I would talk about
Speaker 4: inexpensive things called, you know, perimeter alarms, both mechanical and electrical.
Speaker 4: Have you ever used a perimeter alarm ran?
Speaker 6: Probably not No, just maybe a string in cans.
Speaker 4: Well there you go. Okay, you could do that, and
Speaker 4: you could do a string in cans. But anyhow, this
Speaker 4: is These are all using a string the first off.
Speaker 4: Then we're gonna talk about one that doesn't use that stuff.
Speaker 4: So they have them in electric. And this is the
Speaker 4: first one here. It's a flashy light alert. It puts
Speaker 4: a loud digital siren. So it's gonna scare off any
Speaker 4: bears because people, it may not be a big foot
Speaker 4: you're afraid of. It might be wildlife you may want
Speaker 4: to You may camp in grizzly country and glacier. It
Speaker 4: could be any reasons. But this will protect you. At
Speaker 4: least you're gonna know if something's in the area. It
Speaker 4: can ease be gotten around, probably, but if you do
Speaker 4: it right, it probably won't mess with your dent. I
Speaker 4: don't think a black beard would either. But this one's rechargeable.
Speaker 4: It's a trip line triggered alarm. And this is a company.
Speaker 4: This a gen forore triple alarm. This one's not cheap.
Speaker 4: It's one hundred and ninety nine debinion. Where you look
Speaker 4: and then let's go to a Now, get away from
Speaker 4: electronic and go to mechanical and this puts out a
Speaker 4: loud bang and you put what looks like a shotgun shell,
Speaker 4: but it's does there's no pellets in it, but it
Speaker 4: does explode. And this works with all trip lines. You
Speaker 4: don't need any power electronics. It's a loud mechanical alert.
Speaker 4: It's weather resistant, it's proven, and it's a just a
Speaker 4: very simple thing. You can buy at East for like
Speaker 4: twenty nine bucks. But they have a kid you can
Speaker 4: get a whole kit and this is made by a
Speaker 4: fifth How would you say that you fight fight ops? Yeah, ops,
Speaker 4: And they have a website and you can get a
Speaker 4: whole kit with a bunch of these in it for
Speaker 4: between one hundred and nineteen Vano biggie, you want the kit.
Speaker 4: So that's another way to go. And it's basically like
Speaker 4: a grenade. It pulls a little pin out and there's
Speaker 4: a spring and it's snapped, sets off a shotgun shell.
Speaker 4: Guarantee tee to scare away any bears, any bigfoots. They're gone.
Speaker 5: It's it's a pretty small round's projectiles right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: loud for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't want to put a real bullet
Speaker 4: in there. And then we get into the infra red
Speaker 4: stuff and these are a little spin Year but the
Speaker 4: range on them is really good one hundred and nineteen bucks.
Speaker 4: Once again, there's people selling them all the way up
Speaker 4: to three forty nine. So but but they'll obviously they'll
Speaker 4: protect you from a longer distance and if you think
Speaker 4: bigfoots can see ir, they're gonna steer clear of these.
Speaker 4: To begin with. What's cool is that you can also
Speaker 4: use a driveway alarm. They sell them on Amazon. They
Speaker 4: work really good, and the batteries last forever I've have
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say where, what how, but I've
Speaker 4: used driveway alarms for bigfoot research. They're amazing. The range
Speaker 4: on them is like, man, I'm one hundred and fifty feet.
Speaker 4: They can be tripped. And what's cool is you can
Speaker 4: get one main alarm, but then you can get all
Speaker 4: these sub ir triggers that come with it. You can
Speaker 4: order them with four triggers, two triggers or one and
Speaker 4: they're they're quite in a expensive and so oh you
Speaker 4: can do this that's purposely built. But what do you
Speaker 4: what do you think about that? I mean it would
Speaker 4: get things like this will get people back in the
Speaker 4: woods that even been traumatized.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because that thing is a lot of eyewitnesses after
Speaker 6: they see things like this bigfoot domain, they don't go
Speaker 6: into woods again. But if they know things that like, no,
Speaker 6: there is avoidance technology like for instance, like ir light,
Speaker 6: but I are light around your campsite, you're not going
Speaker 6: to see it. But if Bigfoot can see it, it's
Speaker 6: going to avoid it, right, things like loud noises, large
Speaker 6: fire and stuff like that. That that's one thing I
Speaker 6: tell people is just because these things look monsterrous, they're not.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're monsters. Don't be scared to do
Speaker 6: what you love. Like if you love if you like
Speaker 6: camping and hiking and you saw bigfoot and I are
Speaker 6: scared to do it, still do it because that Bigfoot
Speaker 6: was there before. If you went camping twenty times, they
Speaker 6: saw bigfoot the nineteenth time it was there, there's other
Speaker 6: times just so you didn't know it right exactly.
Speaker 4: That's a good way to look at it. But there's
Speaker 4: a lot. I mean, trust me, if you're traumatized, you're
Speaker 4: worried about it and you want to be a campaiging
Speaker 4: or if you are even scared of, like black bears
Speaker 4: or whatever, get yourself a perimeter alarm, and then you
Speaker 4: can sleep. You're gonna sleep better, and you can get
Speaker 4: out in the woods and you can set up a
Speaker 4: couple of you know, like these ire alarms or triple alarms,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna just sleep good. You know, I definitely
Speaker 4: would use them if I was in grizzly country. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: take take a lesson from Timothy Treadwell. Use perimeter alarms.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Anyhow with that, let's uh, hang tight.
Speaker 4: We're going to do our wisdom and then we'll be
Speaker 4: right back. Hang tight, right, everybody, hang tight.
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Speaker 4: My charger. About Ryan, I told you to stay.
Speaker 6: What I was going to say, Oh my bad is
Speaker 6: ten percent. Let me have a charger again, busted.
Speaker 4: Well, we had one guest drive off on us one time.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, period is full. You know you can do
Speaker 4: that now with the phone. You can just do a pod.
Speaker 4: Guess you can be driving. Yeah, I just drove off.
Speaker 4: It's like, where are you going? Oh, I gotta go
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Speaker 6: Makes sense to me, Well she can be she can
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Speaker 4: But exactly, it just made perfect sense to me. I
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Speaker 4: So we'll be back next week. Thank you so much. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 4: Where can people contact you?
Speaker 6: Of course I'm available on Facebook. If you look at
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Speaker 4: That's my email.
Speaker 6: I'm also on Facebook and Instagram as well, so if
Speaker 6: you reach out to me on any of those, I'll
Speaker 6: always reach back.
Speaker 4: Out sounds good. Well, Thanks so much. It was a
Speaker 4: very interesting conversation. Thanks so much everybody in Chad. What
Speaker 4: a great group we had tonight. I couldn't I couldn't
Speaker 4: keep up you in reading all the stuff. It was crazy. Anyhow,
Speaker 4: we love y'all and we will be back next Sunday.
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