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<v Speaker 1>Touchy around.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the seventy seven WABC Mini Cast.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we are going now to the great state of

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<v Speaker 3>Alaska to Governor Mike Dunleavy and Governor this is Rita.

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<v Speaker 3>We have John katzmatit's on the phone. Also in studio

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Cohen and Judge Richard Weinberg. It's so great to

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<v Speaker 3>have you here. You guys have a huge primary tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a lot of big races, tell us because

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<v Speaker 3>a lot they're open primaries, and then you got rank choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you kind of explain how it works? Because people

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<v Speaker 3>are going, Wow, it's all over the.

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<v Speaker 2>Place exactly Rida. It's kind of like a cross between

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<v Speaker 2>New York City and Maine. And now we have this

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<v Speaker 2>rank choice voting and open primary system, which we never

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<v Speaker 2>had up until just a couple of years ago. It

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<v Speaker 2>was brought in through some dark money on an initiative,

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<v Speaker 2>and many of us have been trying to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of it ever since because so right now, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>we have upwards of seven candidates for governor, several candidates

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<v Speaker 2>for US Senate Congress, and it's really just a confusing

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<v Speaker 2>issue for a lot of people. But anyway, the voters

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow are primary for governor, senator, state legislators, congressman. And

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<v Speaker 2>what will come out of this is in the governor's race,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, out of seventeen, there will be only four

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<v Speaker 2>that will come out of this for the general those

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<v Speaker 2>four aren't necessarily part of any particular party like the

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<v Speaker 2>old system was, where you'd have a primary process and

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<v Speaker 2>you'd end up most likely with a Republican and Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>facing off. We could have four Democrats, we could have

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<v Speaker 2>four Republicans, we could have a mix of three and

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<v Speaker 2>one independent are undeclared. So everyone is trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>through this primary to see what we're really looking at

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<v Speaker 2>for the future. But the bottom line is this in

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<v Speaker 2>Alaska read it's very important. We need to have a

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<v Speaker 2>governor that is going to continue with resource development, oil, gas, timber, gold, rare, earths,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it. We're the only state that got an

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<v Speaker 2>executive voter from President Trump to be able to capitalize

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<v Speaker 2>on all these opportunities in our resources. And if we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have that, and we don't have somebody that puts

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<v Speaker 2>the best interest of the people the state of Alaska first,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be a long four years. But we're optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll get somebody that comes out of this pack

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<v Speaker 2>of folks that will be able to fit that bill.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna wait and see what the results are tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, the whole country is going to be watching. And

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<v Speaker 3>John Katzmatitis, I understand you have a question for Governor

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Dunlevy of the great State of Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor, what is the poults of the people? Has Alaska

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<v Speaker 4>maintained its common sense like when they voted for you?

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<v Speaker 4>And I understand is it true still that they still

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<v Speaker 4>have two Dan Sullivan's running.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's another one. So for us, Senator, we have

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<v Speaker 2>our own Dan Sullivan that's been in a coming for years,

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<v Speaker 2>a great champion for Alaska, be perfectly honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then out of nowhere, all of a sudden, individual

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<v Speaker 2>appeared in one of our southeastern towns with quote the

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<v Speaker 2>same name and just quote had a desire to run

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<v Speaker 2>for office. Many many folks were suspicious of this move,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously for obvious reasons, because in a ranked choice voting scenario,

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<v Speaker 2>people will go to the polls. And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>case that the Division of Elections made in trying to

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<v Speaker 2>keep that person off off the ballot. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the polls and you're going to see the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same name. You know, that would be having Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Dunlady and Mike Dunlaby, and it would be which Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Dunlady is this It's going to make things difficult. And

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<v Speaker 2>so again, if you had a primary that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been worked out, if it was a primary based upon

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<v Speaker 2>a party that would have been worked out, we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even be having this conversation. So it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a dicey situation here for the next couple of months

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<v Speaker 2>until we get through the selection season.

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<v Speaker 3>That's incredible, Judge Weinberg.

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Scritcher talks to you again, Sir, I'm deeply troubled

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<v Speaker 1>by the Sullivan situation. A great United States Senator, a

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<v Speaker 1>great representative of Alaska, one of the leads the United

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<v Speaker 1>States Senator, an expert on military affairs and energy, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have some clown that's pushed in there and

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<v Speaker 1>with the direct and deliberate purpose of confusing the electorate.

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<v Speaker 1>So your state regulatory agency did the right thing by

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<v Speaker 1>knocking the other guy out as a consumer fraud, as

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<v Speaker 1>a voter fraud, and then you stay Supreme Court allowed

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<v Speaker 1>him to stay in. So how do people supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>differentiate between the real Dan Sullivan, the great United States Senator,

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<v Speaker 1>and this clown that was ginned up by the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>to try to create a problem for the real senator.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, judge, you're right. It makes it very difficult, and

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<v Speaker 2>it gets a little weirder if people wanted to in

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<v Speaker 2>the future. But what I mean by that is, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say somebody, let's say I'm Reoray for office. Mike Dunlaby

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<v Speaker 2>runs for office in the future. But let's say the

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<v Speaker 2>other side, however you define that decides that they want

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<v Speaker 2>to screw things up, and so they find somebody that's

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<v Speaker 2>willing to change their name months in advance, and their

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<v Speaker 2>name just happens to be Mike Dunlaby as they go

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<v Speaker 2>on the ballot. What do you do then, because this

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<v Speaker 2>this opens the door for a lot of interesting approaches

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<v Speaker 2>to elect.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm voting tomorrow and Alaska and I want the

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<v Speaker 1>real Dance Sullivan, how do I know I'm getting a

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<v Speaker 1>real Dance Sullivan?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>How How is it distinguished?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we're gonna have We're gonna have terminology on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot Uh, the proper proper name, proper middle name,

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<v Speaker 2>but also uh, Republican and the other guy does not

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<v Speaker 2>have Republican because the party did not want that to occur.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that may end up being challenged after this primary.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to see what we can do in the

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<v Speaker 2>general to really distinguish, whether it's whether it's photos, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's other other other details that we can put in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is all new ground. Uh, this is something

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't contemplate. But quite honestly, it's a very interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting uh, I guess uh for some of us

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<v Speaker 2>believe it's a very interesting maneuver that if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>stopped this year, could have consequences such as I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>earlier about just name changes before an election. So we've

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<v Speaker 2>got some identifiers. We just hope that those identifiers are

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<v Speaker 2>enough to get the people of Alaska and to understand

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<v Speaker 2>who they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Voting for him and Michael Cohen governor.

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<v Speaker 5>What happens if, hypothetically the guy's name is really Robert

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<v Speaker 5>Johnson and he changes the name before with the sole

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<v Speaker 5>purpose to Mike Dunlevy and just doesn't spell it l

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<v Speaker 5>eavy but l e v v.

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<v Speaker 2>Y, Well that's what I just brought up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this opens the door for somebody to actually change their name.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the other side employs them for two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and they agree to change the name to Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Dunlady spelled exactly like my name, and goes on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the part that's the problem that we foresee occurring

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<v Speaker 2>in the future as a campaign and electoral maneuver in

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<v Speaker 2>which the people of Alaska or any other state, if

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<v Speaker 2>this were to happen in the other state, but if

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<v Speaker 2>it happens here, they don't really know who they're voting for,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is just going to lead to more of

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<v Speaker 2>a corrosive effect on believing that your vote matters. That's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, what a mess. This is really scary. Well let's

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<v Speaker 3>see what happens. All eyes are going to be there tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you're speaking out against it. Thank you so much, Governor.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was so great to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Governess.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for having me. Guys, thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much.