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Speaker 1: Try Philly Cunningham, the great American. Welcome this glorious Sunday
Speaker 1: night in the in the nation. All hell's breaking loose
Speaker 1: everywhere I find myself from Southwest Florida touring Fort Myers Beach.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the recovery of FEMA with
Speaker 1: that later on, which is terrible. I look about what's
Speaker 1: happening in Pacific, palisides, palisides in LA it's terrible. I
Speaker 1: look at what's happening continuing to happen in Asheville, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. Everywhere I look, it's terrible. The weather's terrible.
Speaker 1: It's just terrible about what's happening. One thing I found
Speaker 1: amazing is CBS Evening News and CBS Face the Nation
Speaker 1: and also sixty minutes that hit pieces constantly on Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: Mark or Rubio, etc. And it got so weird This
Speaker 1: morning on Face the Nation, when CBS News anchor Margaret
Speaker 1: Brennan had nothing to say, Secretary of State Rubo brutally
Speaker 1: counted her her weak argument that the Nazis. Whenever, whenever
Speaker 1: you bring up the Nazis or Adolf Hitler, you lose
Speaker 1: the argument. But CBS News anchor Margaret Brenner said, the
Speaker 1: Nazis somehow quote weaponized free speech to conduct a genocide.
Speaker 1: And I'm watching it this morning. I replayed it on
Speaker 1: YouTube about an hour ago in preparation for tonight's show,
Speaker 1: and I said, you got to be kidding me. So
Speaker 1: Margaret Brennan is somehow saying that Adolf Hitler, Nazi Germany,
Speaker 1: had free speech. You could say what you wanted and
Speaker 1: the Nazis would knock on your door, but that he
Speaker 1: somehow weaponized free speech to conduct a genocide against mainly
Speaker 1: Jewish Germans and so many others, and one of the
Speaker 1: worst crimes in human history was conducted. And I'm watching
Speaker 1: this exchange on Face the Nation and she's using that
Speaker 1: as an example to criticize JD. Vance's speech before the
Speaker 1: Munich Security Conference on Wednesday or Thursday, and she's using
Speaker 1: this to kind of undermine Donald Trump and Marco Rubio
Speaker 1: by saying that weaponize free speech is somehow bad. The
Speaker 1: Nazis used free speech and I'm scratching my head, and so,
Speaker 1: Danny Gleeson, if you have that ready, It's about two
Speaker 1: minutes long. And I can't imagine this being somehow acceptable
Speaker 1: to those running CBS News when one of their main anchors,
Speaker 1: Margaret Brennan is kind of criticizing Marco Rubio and JD.
Speaker 1: Vance And is she indirectly complimenting Adolf Hitler in Nazi
Speaker 1: Germany quote, weaponized free speech to conduct a genocide. Danny, boy,
Speaker 1: if you're ready for this, about two minutes long, hit it.
Speaker 5: And so I think if anyone's angry about his work,
Speaker 5: they don't have to agree with him, but to be
Speaker 5: angry about it, I think.
Speaker 1: Actually makes this point.
Speaker 5: I thought it was actually a pretty historic speech. Whether
Speaker 5: you agree with him or not, I think the valid
Speaker 5: points he's making to Europe is we are concerned that
Speaker 5: the true values that we share, the values that bind
Speaker 5: us together with Europe are things like free speech and
Speaker 5: democracy and our shared history in winning two World wars
Speaker 5: and defeating Soviet communism and the like. These are the
Speaker 5: values that we shared in common, and in that quote
Speaker 5: where we fought again and things like censorship and oppression
Speaker 5: and so forth. And when you see backsliding and you
Speaker 5: raise that, that's a very valid concern. We can't tell
Speaker 5: them how to run their countries. He's simply expressed in
Speaker 5: a speech his view of it, which a lot of
Speaker 5: people frankly share. And I thought he said a lot
Speaker 5: of things in that speech that needed to be said,
Speaker 5: and honestly, I don't know why anybody would be upset
Speaker 5: about it. People are allowed, you know, you don't have
Speaker 5: to agree on someone's speech. I happen to agree with
Speaker 5: a lot of what he said, but you don't have
Speaker 5: to agree with someone's speech to at least appreciate the
Speaker 5: fact they have a right to say it, and then
Speaker 5: you should listen to it and see whether those criticisms
Speaker 5: are valid. I assure you the United States has come
Speaker 5: under withering criticism on many occasions from many leaders in Europe,
Speaker 5: and we don't go around throwing temper tantrums about it.
Speaker 6: Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
Speaker 6: was weaponized to kentuct a genocide, and he met with
Speaker 6: the head of a political party that has far right
Speaker 6: views and some historic ties.
Speaker 1: To extreme groups.
Speaker 3: Hoops.
Speaker 6: The context of that was changing the tone of it.
Speaker 6: And you know that that the censorships disagree with specifically
Speaker 6: about the right.
Speaker 5: Now I have to disagree with you. The free speech
Speaker 5: was not used to conduct the genocide. The genocide was
Speaker 5: conducted by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also
Speaker 5: be genocidal because they hated Jews, and they hated minorities,
Speaker 5: and they hated those that they had a list of
Speaker 5: people they hated, but primarily the Jews. There was no
Speaker 5: free speech in Nazi Germany. There was none. There was
Speaker 5: also no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were a sole
Speaker 5: and only party that governed that country. So that's not
Speaker 5: an accurate reflection of history.
Speaker 1: I also think it's wrong.
Speaker 5: Again, I go back to the point of his speech.
Speaker 5: The point of his speech was basically that there is
Speaker 5: an erosion in free speech and in tolerance for opposing
Speaker 5: points of view within Europe, and that's of concern.
Speaker 1: Because that is eroding.
Speaker 5: It's not an erosion of your military capabilities. That's not
Speaker 5: an erosion of your economic standing. That's an erosion of
Speaker 5: the actual values that bind us together in its transit
Speaker 5: land of Hunanon that everybody talks about. And I think
Speaker 5: allies and friends and partners that have worked together now
Speaker 5: for eighty years should be able to speak frankly to
Speaker 5: one another in open forums without being offended, insulted, or upset.
Speaker 5: And I spoke to foreign ministers from multiple countries throughout Europe.
Speaker 1: Many of them probably didn't like the speech.
Speaker 5: I didn't agree with it, but they were continuing to
Speaker 5: engage with us on all sorts of issues that unite us.
Speaker 5: So again, at the end of the day, I think
Speaker 5: that you know, people give all. That is a form
Speaker 5: in which you're supposed to be inviting people.
Speaker 1: To get so I kind of want you to understand that.
Speaker 1: Margaret Brennan interrupted our Secretary of State with the claim
Speaker 1: that Vance was quote standing in a country where free
Speaker 1: speech was weaponized to conduct a genocide. Does she believe
Speaker 1: that free speech was available in Nazi Germany the nineteen
Speaker 1: thirties and using Hitler and the Nazis to criticize JD. Vance,
Speaker 1: shall we say, is a bit beyond the pale now. JD.
Speaker 1: Vance also made the comment about abortion, which is a
Speaker 1: sacrament in most of Europe. In fact, he talked about
Speaker 1: a pro life Englishman convicted for praying outside of an
Speaker 1: abortion clinic. This guy he in his own mind, he
Speaker 1: was kneeling outside of an abortion clinic in England. His
Speaker 1: name is Adam Smith Connor. He was convicted in October
Speaker 1: for simply praying in his own head near an abortion facility,
Speaker 1: and he was arrested by the police. He was convicted
Speaker 1: of kneeling outside of an abortion clinic, saying nothing, just kneeling,
Speaker 1: given a two year conditional release in prison and nine
Speaker 1: thousand pounds fine and more. And so jd. Van stood
Speaker 1: up and said he kind of gave an American speech
Speaker 1: to the Munich Security Conference, saying, you know, there's several
Speaker 1: principles upon which we can rely. Number one, censorship by
Speaker 1: the government is bad. Well, the Europeans think it's good good,
Speaker 1: and the Democratic Party thinks it's good. Censorship is good,
Speaker 1: But I think JD. Vance and Donald Trump ran against censorship.
Speaker 1: Also in Europe, they have government weaponized against their own citizens.
Speaker 1: You may have seen sixty Minutes tonight. The second episode
Speaker 1: dealt with German police and prosecutors who troll the internet
Speaker 1: to find individuals who are criticizing other Germans, or criticizing
Speaker 1: unbridled immigration, or saying something that could be considered insulting
Speaker 1: to another, knocking on the door at six o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, grabbing their phones and all their iPads and devices,
Speaker 1: and then possibly prosecuting them for displeasurable conduct on the internet.
Speaker 1: They have no right to freedom of speech in Germany,
Speaker 1: as we do in this kind. We have the right
Speaker 1: under the First Amendment to speak. And you may know
Speaker 1: that hate speech is protected by the United States Constitution.
Speaker 1: The big case came out of Ohio in nineteen six
Speaker 1: denying Brandenburg versus Ohio, in which the United States Supreme
Speaker 1: Court said, what fifty five years ago, fifty six years ago,
Speaker 1: that terrible speech, hate speech is all permitted. It's not good,
Speaker 1: but it's okay constitutionally, as long as you're not calling
Speaker 1: for violence of one type or another. And so here
Speaker 1: you got JD. Vance, who is a Catholic who went
Speaker 1: through the process and was baptized in twenty nineteen saying
Speaker 1: to the Europeans there's too much censorship in Europe. There's
Speaker 1: no freedom of expression, as demonstrated by a man outside
Speaker 1: of an abortion clinic in Europe, that the government is
Speaker 1: weaponized against their own people. Jade Vans also talked about
Speaker 1: open borders, a million Syrians flooding into Germany, not assimilating,
Speaker 1: and have no go zones where police can't go in
Speaker 1: certain parts of German cities or French cities. And also
Speaker 1: the liberal media only gives one side of the story,
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, isn't he talking about the United States
Speaker 1: of America. Didn't we have an election on this. Wasn't
Speaker 1: there massive censorship by Twitter and Facebook and the mainstream
Speaker 1: media against conservative and conservative values in America? Wasn't the
Speaker 1: DOJ weaponized not just against Donald Trump, but his attorneys,
Speaker 1: the White House Chief of Staff, consultants, and those who
Speaker 1: protested outside of killing centers called abortion clinics. That somehow
Speaker 1: the DOJ would go after individuals, including grandmothers, and lock
Speaker 1: them up because they protested peaceably in front of abortion
Speaker 1: clinics in America. Isn't it true that we've had open
Speaker 1: borders with fourteen or twenty million illegals coming into the country.
Speaker 1: Answer to that question, up and down is absolutely. He
Speaker 1: could have made that speech in Duluth, Minnesota, or in
Speaker 1: the Tuscaloosa, Alabama who just lost to Auburn in basketball,
Speaker 1: could have made that speech anywhere, But in America, we
Speaker 1: made a turn, didn't We didn't. We say, we don't
Speaker 1: want censorship in the media. We don't want PBS to
Speaker 1: be funded to give us a particular left wing, far
Speaker 1: left viewpoint, that we don't want the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: WEAPONIYS to attack Joe Biden's political opponents. That we don't
Speaker 1: want open borders. We want a lot of immigration to
Speaker 1: come into this country, but it's got to be legal immigration,
Speaker 1: not illegal immigration. And we went with the media to
Speaker 1: be more more fair. But then you know, I listen
Speaker 1: to my good friend and your Sean Hannity when it
Speaker 1: comes to that issue. At least in twenty eight, twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: the media died in this country and would not report
Speaker 1: on facts that their left wing liberal bias would maybe
Speaker 1: help John McCain or Mitt Romney or Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: the media didn't report it. So everything that he said
Speaker 1: in the Munich Security Conference that offended European leaders in
Speaker 1: a failed society called Western Europe could be applied to America.
Speaker 1: The churches in Western Europe are unoccupied. They're vacant. There
Speaker 1: is no functioning economy in which there's new processes being
Speaker 1: developed in factive, Google or Microsoft or Apple comes into Europe.
Speaker 1: The regulators try to regulate American businesses out of business.
Speaker 1: There's certainly the collapse of the so called nuclear family happening,
Speaker 1: which is happening also in America. And they have so
Speaker 1: many immigrants inside Western Europe that have not been assimilated.
Speaker 1: The most popular birth name in England is now Mohammed.
Speaker 1: So he said in Europe, the same kind of campaign
Speaker 1: speech that seem to work here.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: Secondly, give you an idea where the mainstream media is.
Speaker 1: CNN White House correspondent, he has her own show. Caitlin
Speaker 1: Collins on CNN posted a tweet in support of CEO
Speaker 1: killer Luigi Maggione's defense fund, and I read the story
Speaker 1: and I said, this can't be true. Then I read
Speaker 1: her tweet and she's since taken it down. But what
Speaker 1: could she possibly have been thinking that? The White House
Speaker 1: correspondent for CNN posted a tweet linking to the defense
Speaker 1: fund for accused murderer Luigi Manngioni, who murdered in cold blood,
Speaker 1: the father of three CEO Brian Thompson honor about December
Speaker 1: the fourth of last year. How is it possible she
Speaker 1: could assist in the raising of money for an assassination
Speaker 1: of this type, which sends shock waves through the healthcare community.
Speaker 1: And this was a person who's perceived to be a
Speaker 1: rising superstar. When it comes to CNN, they want to
Speaker 1: get rid of Wolf Blitzer and Jake Tapper and go
Speaker 1: with Caitlyn Collins, who came out of shall we say,
Speaker 1: the liberal progressive arm of the Democrat Party. And right
Speaker 1: now she's got egg all over her face, very expensive
Speaker 1: egg on her face, because she seems to promote raising
Speaker 1: money for a murderer, a cold blood, a killer who
Speaker 1: committed his I'm on video and he foretold her what
Speaker 1: he was going to do weeks in advance. And sadly,
Speaker 1: a lot of left wing liberal Americans think it is
Speaker 1: wrong to do that, the wrong to kill Brian Thompson.
Speaker 1: But let's face, you can understand why he did it.
Speaker 1: That's another way of saying it was justified, which is despicable.
Speaker 1: So I think CNN needs to call her into the
Speaker 1: office and talk to her about what she's doing. So
Speaker 1: let's set up tonight's big show and lastly, sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: I watched it tonight. The first two segments. The first
Speaker 1: segment dealt with attacking Donald Trump waste, fraud and abuse,
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have the power to manage the executive
Speaker 1: branch of government, and that was by Scott Pelley. And
Speaker 1: then the second part was about complimenting, shall we say,
Speaker 1: the Germans for taking down critics on the internet because
Speaker 1: Germany has no First Amendment right of individual citizens. You
Speaker 1: see America as the only country in the world and
Speaker 1: which citizens are given rights by God, defended and protected
Speaker 1: by government. I think about that every country in the
Speaker 1: world have rights only because they're given by government. But
Speaker 1: in America seventeen seventy six seventeen eighty seven Constitution, we
Speaker 1: have rights, human rights given to us by God. And
Speaker 1: it is the role of government to protect and defend
Speaker 1: those individual rights against those who would obliterate them. And
Speaker 1: it should not be the government obliterating our rights. Would
Speaker 1: you agree? But in Germany and throughout most of the world,
Speaker 1: rights given can be rights taken away. For rights given
Speaker 1: by God Almighty cannot be taken away by government. And
Speaker 1: that's the essentral part. So later on we have Israel
Speaker 1: Ellis coming up on the terrible circumstance happening now in
Speaker 1: the Middle East. Marco Ruby was over there. He was
Speaker 1: over there earlier today and yesterday, I think, coming back
Speaker 1: tonight or tomorrow Monday to discuss with the President his
Speaker 1: conversations with Benjamin Nintinyahu. Also later on as Daniel Greenfield
Speaker 1: of front Page mag dot Com Great Website. Also later
Speaker 1: on as Steve molloy, you know, when I find myself
Speaker 1: in southwest Florida touring at Fort Myer's Beach, which remains
Speaker 1: in terrible condition, the government cares more about Zikistan, and
Speaker 1: it cares about Pacific Palisades, or cares more about Ashville,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, or Fort Myers Beach building other countries, other bridges,
Speaker 1: but not helping our own people. That's called us AID.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless he's going to address himself to that. Plus
Speaker 1: later on is doctor Suzanne Barcher, who's done massive studies
Speaker 1: on what's wrong with eighth graders and why they can't read.
Speaker 1: And you might recall in the Bush forty three term
Speaker 1: there was a fourth grade guarantee that every public school
Speaker 1: kid was going to learn to read, you learn to read,
Speaker 1: and then you read to learn what happened to that?
Speaker 1: Promising more so, let's continue if the line becomes available.
Speaker 1: Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven
Speaker 1: Bill cunning in The Great American with You Every Sunday
Speaker 1: Night by Billy Cunningham, and I want to set up
Speaker 1: later tonight what's going to go on? But I just
Speaker 1: find it amazing that the similarities between a failed Europe
Speaker 1: called out by JD Vance on Thursday is exactly the
Speaker 1: same campaign speech given by him and by Donald Trump
Speaker 1: previous to the November fifth campaign about a weaponized justice system,
Speaker 1: about the lack of freedom of speech, about a committed media,
Speaker 1: and about a government far distant and discreete completely out
Speaker 1: of control. Because exactly why we elected Donald Trump with
Speaker 1: seventy seven million votes to change it. And after the
Speaker 1: first four weeks he's done a fabulous job, despite the
Speaker 1: protestations of CBS's Margaret Brennan, who kind of compared Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and JD Vance to Adolf Hitler or Nazi Germany
Speaker 1: one of the worst moments ever faced the nation this morning,
Speaker 1: and then also went after Donald Trump for wanting to
Speaker 1: get rid of waste fraud and abuse. Right now, Doze
Speaker 1: and Elon Musk and Trump is saving us up to
Speaker 1: this point billions of dollars. In fact, i'd point out
Speaker 1: to you tonight that the Government Accounting Office the GAO
Speaker 1: said about a year and a half ago at the
Speaker 1: end of the Biden regime that every year listen to
Speaker 1: this number. According to GAO, under Joe Biden, between two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty the five hundred billion dollars every year
Speaker 1: was wasted by the federal government through one of the
Speaker 1: agencies or another, mainly in defense, Social Security checks, disability checks,
Speaker 1: Department of Education, etc. And that is in numbers from Doze,
Speaker 1: Elon Musk or me or Sean Hanniteer or Donald Trump
Speaker 1: that came out of the GAO report of about a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago that between two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty that five hundred billion dollars every year is wasted
Speaker 1: by the federal government over the four years then of
Speaker 1: the Biden re regime. That was well over a trillion
Speaker 1: dollars that was wasted that we paid in money to
Speaker 1: the federal government that should not have been paid. So
Speaker 1: let's continue with more. Our first guest tonight's going to
Speaker 1: be Daniel Greenfield, our frontpagemag dot com about DEI and
Speaker 1: so much more, and we'll go from there. But big
Speaker 1: show planned tonight. Stay tuned with us for the next
Speaker 1: three hours. And I love what I do. I love
Speaker 1: being with you, and let's do it together. This is
Speaker 1: about my seventeenth year with you Every Sunday night, Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Great American, with you every Sunday Night, Billy Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Great America. And one of the websites I check
Speaker 1: out every day is front Page magde dot org. And
Speaker 1: one of the great contributors there is Daniel Greenfield. Has
Speaker 1: a new book out, Domestic Enemies, the Founding Father's Fight
Speaker 1: against the Left, and he has a big column up
Speaker 1: about several areas. I read his stuff constantly about how
Speaker 1: we are deep banking certain conservatives because of their political beliefs. Plus,
Speaker 1: Daniel Greenfield's got a great column up about the equity
Speaker 1: and diversity, equity and inclusion in the NBA. There was
Speaker 1: so much equity and inclusion in the halftime show of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I thought that's a pretty good topic.
Speaker 1: But first of all, Daniel Greenfield, author of Domestic Enemies,
Speaker 1: Welcome again, to the Bill Cunningham Show. You're also with
Speaker 1: the David Horrorwitz Freedom Center, and number one explained to
Speaker 1: the American people, I did not know this was a
Speaker 1: thing until I saw the President a few days ago
Speaker 1: taking a task some of the owners of some of
Speaker 1: the big banks in this country, whether it's Bank of
Speaker 1: America or whether it's Wells Fargo, about these banks that
Speaker 1: are debanking conservatives. So tell the American people, first of all,
Speaker 1: what's going on.
Speaker 8: And that's look a huge issue. It really got off
Speaker 8: the ground after Trump won in back in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 8: and the Democrats blamed that on weth existence of conservatives
Speaker 8: having access to any kind of medium, especially with the Internet,
Speaker 8: and of course having access to financial services or hotels.
Speaker 8: So they said about, among other things, getting banks financial
Speaker 8: institutions to go ahead and cut off bank accounts for
Speaker 8: groups they considered to be hate groups. And that was
Speaker 8: a pretty wide net, those being cast by organizations like
Speaker 8: the Southern Poverty Law Center, who consludered pretty much any
Speaker 8: conservative organization with normative conservative beliefs to be a hate group,
Speaker 8: including our own, the David Harward's Freedom Center.
Speaker 1: And so when this group, the Southern Poverty Law Center,
Speaker 1: which the media considers the gold standard of declaring something
Speaker 1: to be a hate group when it is not. Can
Speaker 1: you describe the activities of the Southern Poverty Law Center
Speaker 1: that indicates they're not some independent arbiter.
Speaker 8: Yes, so I have some personal experience with the Southern
Speaker 8: Poverty Law Center. They at one point declared me to
Speaker 8: be a hate group of one. I mean they declared
Speaker 8: me personally to be a hate group, and I'm one man.
Speaker 8: They also listed a number of other hate groups, including
Speaker 8: a sign outside a bar and a brand of gun oil,
Speaker 8: so their research is also top notch. There was actually
Speaker 8: reports in the media all a time when they claimed
Speaker 8: that a town was small town was a hub of
Speaker 8: hate because it was reportedly going to be a client
Speaker 8: meeting at a restaurant there, which never seems to have happened.
Speaker 8: But the town ended up on a hate map, and
Speaker 8: they spent about ten years trying to get their name walking.
Speaker 8: You know, nobody in the town had actually done anything wrong.
Speaker 8: So this is just how the Southern Poverty was Center operates.
Speaker 8: Their bian is to basically accuse everybody they can of
Speaker 8: hate of racism for profit, and unfortunately, we were one
Speaker 8: of the organizations that they also targeted, and as a result,
Speaker 8: a number of financial solutions, including MasterCard, decided they were
Speaker 8: going to stop processing financial transactions involving US and a
Speaker 8: hotel that we were going to book an event at
Speaker 8: the featured, among other things, Sean Spicer, Pete Heggsith some others.
Speaker 8: People in the Trump administration were no longer able.
Speaker 9: To do that.
Speaker 8: And this is just an example of how the Southern
Speaker 8: Poverty all Censor hooked up with big banks, major corporations,
Speaker 8: and portions of the government to effectively eliminate conservatives from
Speaker 8: the public. At least that's what they were trying to.
Speaker 1: Do so Daniel Greenfield, the way the game is played
Speaker 1: is the Southern Poverty Law Center, who receives generous contributions
Speaker 1: from left wing causes, and I would think probably receives
Speaker 1: government money. Almost everyone does under US AID one way
Speaker 1: or another. It's incredible how much money is being handed out.
Speaker 1: Once you get on their list, they disseminate that list
Speaker 1: all over America, especially to financial institutions, and if your
Speaker 1: name or someone else's name, or some group is on
Speaker 1: their list that has little or no objective criteria at all,
Speaker 1: suddenly the Daniel Greenfields of the world cannot use a
Speaker 1: MasterCard because the bank says you represent a hate group?
Speaker 1: Was it hard to get off the list? How do
Speaker 1: you tell Bank of America or MasterCard as a Jewish
Speaker 1: American that you're not part of a hate group?
Speaker 8: Most of the time, you Jones, Well, we did that
Speaker 8: David Harward's Freedom Center. When MasterCard cut us off was
Speaker 8: we managed to launch a media campaign. We got our
Speaker 8: story out. This was quite a few years back. We
Speaker 8: were really the first organization to actually tell our d
Speaker 8: banking story and MasterCard decided to back down. Things though,
Speaker 8: definitely got worse. This was back when Trump was in
Speaker 8: office for the first time, things got worse than the
Speaker 8: Bide administration because back then they had to be weighed
Speaker 8: a little bit worried about action from the White House
Speaker 8: under Biden. Of course they knew the government was with them,
Speaker 8: was actually pressuring financials solutions to go ahead and d
Speaker 8: bank people. So we had that recourse under Trump. We
Speaker 8: would have it again now that Trump is back in office,
Speaker 8: but conservatives quating our organization. When we were debanked by
Speaker 8: Bank of America on the Biden we had no recourse
Speaker 8: at all.
Speaker 1: About a week or ten days ago, you have a
Speaker 1: column up called bring DEI to the NBA, and the
Speaker 1: subtitle of your column is the NBA needs a fire
Speaker 1: a hundreds of black employees and our hundreds of white ones.
Speaker 1: You're going to say there's a growing backlash to DEI,
Speaker 1: but the Cleveland Cavaliers told NBC News that while other
Speaker 1: organizations may be moving on, the NBA team is sticking
Speaker 1: with the racist program of DEI. And you say, in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Cavaliers and a CEO and Nick Barlage
Speaker 1: vowed to tie DEI metrics to bonuses and make sure
Speaker 1: that in their organization of the Cleveland Cavaliers, which is
Speaker 1: similar throughout the NBA, that DEI would be organically woven
Speaker 1: within the DNA of the culture. It's just who we are. Quote.
Speaker 1: We believe that everybody in our organization, every person, every community,
Speaker 1: is part of our diversity, equity and inclusion story. Does
Speaker 1: that actually mean the team The answer would be no.
Speaker 1: Explain to your column, which I thought was fabulous.
Speaker 8: Well, the NBA is, of course all in on DEI.
Speaker 8: They want metrics, racial metrics to the number of employees
Speaker 8: to hire every level, at every level of the front office,
Speaker 8: the very supplies I deal with, So everybody right down
Speaker 8: from the people are taking out the trash to the
Speaker 8: people in the front office. But of course not for
Speaker 8: the players, because if they actually applied some of those
Speaker 8: same metrics, well, they'd have to get rid of hundreds
Speaker 8: of black players and higher hundreds of white players, bring
Speaker 8: in a lot of Latino players, a few Indian players.
Speaker 8: They'd actually have to have the numbers that resemble mark
Speaker 8: and they do this in a variety of fields where
Speaker 8: they stay. This is the racial breakdown. This is the
Speaker 8: forty black people, what's in Cleveland thirty two percent white people,
Speaker 8: and this is a number of Latinos and the employees
Speaker 8: have to match that organize that numbers exactly. By the way,
Speaker 8: the bidenministration was doing this sever with the United States military,
Speaker 8: but of course they want to do this with the
Speaker 8: player basically because the majority of players are black, like
Speaker 8: seventy eighty percent majorities.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a meritocracy, which that's the American
Speaker 1: waye wherever's better gets the job. There's objective criteria. Almost
Speaker 1: every job in every organization can say, well, who's got
Speaker 1: a college degree, who doesn't, who shows up to work,
Speaker 1: who doesn't. Who did better on the interest exam? Who didn't?
Speaker 1: But you make a point that thirteen of the seventeen
Speaker 1: players for the Cavs are black, which is about seventy
Speaker 1: six percent. Well, the city is forty five percent black,
Speaker 1: thirty six percent? Why thirteen percent Latino? And I would
Speaker 1: think looking at the Cavaliers games or watching the Lakers games,
Speaker 1: the great majority of people in the stands are also white.
Speaker 1: And so I guess meritocracy only applies on the court,
Speaker 1: but not on all the other jobs in the organization.
Speaker 1: DEI doesn't apply on the court or on the field.
Speaker 1: During the Super Bowl last Sunday, there was a halftime
Speaker 1: show by Kendrick Lamar that I thought was terrible. I
Speaker 1: thought that Michael Jackson's and the princes were pretty damn good,
Speaker 1: but that's a different story. But it was terrible. There
Speaker 1: wasn't one white face anywhere on the field, hundreds of dancers,
Speaker 1: and this is DEI sent to the NFL. Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: said in his news conference before the Super Bowl that
Speaker 1: the NFL embraces DEI and everything they do, and racism
Speaker 1: is often in the end zones, but DEI doesn't apply
Speaker 1: to the field, but it applies to everywhere else. Have
Speaker 1: you heard the explanation is why that's okay? I've not
Speaker 1: heard a good explanation from anyone, whether it's Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: or the NBA. The NHL is predominantly white because it's
Speaker 1: a meritocracy. There are black players, but whoever can put
Speaker 1: the biscuit in the neck gets the job. Have you
Speaker 1: heard the argument that somehow you and I are wrong
Speaker 1: and that the NBA is right to have a meritocracy
Speaker 1: on the court, but nowhere else in the organization. What
Speaker 1: is the argument against it?
Speaker 8: There's an argument that you either have a meritoca. Sure
Speaker 8: you don't. And what the NBA is doing is, by
Speaker 8: the way we go there absolutely opening themselves up to
Speaker 8: a lawsuit because when they look at an organ part
Speaker 8: of the organization say there are too many white people here,
Speaker 8: they don't match the metrics, we need to get rid
Speaker 8: of them. But they look at another part and say
Speaker 8: there are too many black people and that is just great.
Speaker 8: That's a civil rights violation. So they're actually opening in
Speaker 8: the subs up to all suits which I imagine will
Speaker 8: come at some point. And it always shows the underlying
Speaker 8: hypocracy because meritacracy is great. We should have meritocracy. We
Speaker 8: should have meritocracy in corporate offices. We should have meritocracy
Speaker 8: on the court. We should have merittocracy in the military,
Speaker 8: which we're now beginning to get again. We should have
Speaker 8: meritocracy everywhere. There's no basis for hiring people based on
Speaker 8: their skin color period.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You make the point in your column that DEI doesn't
Speaker 1: actually seek equity, let alone diversity. It's the opposite. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like a George Orwell, we don't have diversity,
Speaker 1: equity and inclusion, so therefore we say we do. While
Speaker 1: we practice meritocracy on the court, on the field, on
Speaker 1: the diamond, we don't practice it in the organization. In fact,
Speaker 1: you point out that Mark Cuban, who is now a
Speaker 1: Dallas mavery minority owner, brags about executive leadership is forty
Speaker 1: seven percent people of color, and that doesn't represent the
Speaker 1: fan base or the city of Dallas at all. And
Speaker 1: the NBA claims that over half of its coaches are black.
Speaker 1: Is an achievement of diversity, but in reality, in order
Speaker 1: to get those principles, you have to practice racial discrimination,
Speaker 1: which is judging someone based upon the color of their skin.
Speaker 1: But the NBA and others don't do not see it
Speaker 1: that way at all. In fact, i've seen some of
Speaker 1: the complaints about black coaches not in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: others have written columns about this that indicates that it
Speaker 1: more or less represents the population of America as being
Speaker 1: about sixty sixty five percent white, et cetera. And that's
Speaker 1: the way it ought to be. And so I would
Speaker 1: think with the new administration, I would think Daniel Greenfield,
Speaker 1: with a new administration, this might change. But when I
Speaker 1: watched the media, the NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, and who
Speaker 1: knows if CBS will be in existence anymore. You may
Speaker 1: know that the president wants to take away their license
Speaker 1: because of the Kamala Harrison interview. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's going to work or not. But when I make
Speaker 1: the statement that diversity, equity inclusion is practicing racial discrimination,
Speaker 1: the media doesn't accept that. The mainstream media doesn't accept that,
Speaker 1: but I think most Americans do, and so I would
Speaker 1: hope that that those who want to end racial discrimination
Speaker 1: will quit racially discriminating based upon race. That's the way
Speaker 1: to do it. And your call them in the NBA
Speaker 1: is perfect. The NBA All Star Weekend is happening this weekend,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at it and the great majority of
Speaker 1: the players are black, and that doesn't bother me one
Speaker 1: bit because they're the best players. But the same criteria
Speaker 1: should apply to every part of every organization, and it doesn't.
Speaker 1: And I think it might beginning high school and college.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's an indoctrination happening with college kids
Speaker 1: to accept forms of racial discrimination as a kind of
Speaker 1: a form of operations.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, And it's very disturbing. Beyond college, it's there at
Speaker 8: the university level. For example, in medical school, the doctors
Speaker 8: of the future are being trained to consider privilege. They're
Speaker 8: being trained to consider the race of the patient. They're
Speaker 8: being taught, for example, that if you treat oge, you
Speaker 8: have a few patients in front of you, both are sick,
Speaker 8: you treat the one that is more oppressed first. And
Speaker 8: this is the stuff that is potentially very, very disturbing
Speaker 8: once it gets down to the real world.
Speaker 1: And of course I belong to the American Bar Association
Speaker 1: and they issue statements regularly after Trump got elected they're
Speaker 1: not going to give up on racial discrimination. They call
Speaker 1: it DEI They call it reaching out for the most talent.
Speaker 1: Come on, all the words you want to, all the
Speaker 1: five syllable words you can come up with, but the essence,
Speaker 1: the core of DEI is race discrimination, especially against Asian
Speaker 1: students who do better on these tests than anyone else.
Speaker 1: But Dandy Greenfield, once again, thanks for coming on the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And I loved your column on the NBA.
Speaker 1: And for those who feel as if there have been deplatformed,
Speaker 1: what you have power where you are, but what does
Speaker 1: the average person do if a bank deplatforms them? What
Speaker 1: do you do?
Speaker 8: The good US is that with Trump in office and
Speaker 8: Republicans actually taking a serious look at the stuff all
Speaker 8: the CEOs are denying at Thank of America is denying
Speaker 8: it the reality those that people, individuals still have few options.
Speaker 8: One of the things that we are proposing it to
Speaker 8: David Hart's Freedom Centers. We need legislation that will deal
Speaker 8: with the biggest civil rights crisis of our time, which
Speaker 8: is not systemic cracism that does not exist and it's
Speaker 8: not in a general in generation, but it is political
Speaker 8: discrimination against conservatives. We need to actually bring in add
Speaker 8: political orientation affiliation to the list of protected characteristics and
Speaker 8: make sure that any companies that actually discriminate against conservatives
Speaker 8: will actually face civil rights lawsuits.
Speaker 1: Well, that'll be up to a conservative Southern poverty law
Speaker 1: center to bring that to bring to the public pulb
Speaker 1: forefront because lots of discrimination take place today. But I'm
Speaker 1: with you, there is no system racism. If it is,
Speaker 1: it is practiced by liberals. The liberals control almost all
Speaker 1: the major organizations in this country and they're the ones
Speaker 1: practicing race discrimination. They call it something else to fit
Speaker 1: inside their prejudice. But Daniel Greenfield once again front pagemag
Speaker 1: dot com and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show and Daniel Greenfield, you're a great American. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, Thank you so much. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: You can't end discrimination by employing it. And I've had
Speaker 1: several may I use the term black politicians talk to
Speaker 1: me about a new day in America and that they
Speaker 1: feel is there a place for us in America today?
Speaker 1: With Donald Trump and the White House? The answer is yes.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with a meritocracy when someone is selected not
Speaker 1: because of the color of their skin, but selected based
Speaker 1: upon their accomplishments in life? And what they can do
Speaker 1: irrespective of color. I' let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Grand American, live with you every Sunday night on
Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the Great American. You know, Daniel Greenfield front
Speaker 1: page meg dot com. You can watch them repeatedly then
Speaker 1: and get all the information you need so site. But
Speaker 1: the second part of which we discussed, you know tonight
Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game is underway. And when you
Speaker 1: talk about every major franchise, including the Cleveland Cavaliers, or
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks, the Lakers, whatever, or Adam Silver, the
Speaker 1: commissioner of the National Basketball Association, in every circumstance, they
Speaker 1: completely believe in DEI diversity equity and the lack of
Speaker 1: integration of different minorities into what's happening in their organization.
Speaker 1: And it's amazing that merit should apply to about everything
Speaker 1: in American life. How well you do. One of the
Speaker 1: classic examples brought up by Daniel Greenfield, of course, is
Speaker 1: that air trific control situation. We have a shortage because
Speaker 1: the best and the brightest we're not given an opportunity
Speaker 1: to serve because it didn't fit a DEI a mandate,
Speaker 1: and that there were two thousands Asian and white male
Speaker 1: purported air traffic controllers that have sued saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: we have a situation here where we're the most qualified,
Speaker 1: we do well on the test, we have all the
Speaker 1: academic credentials necessary, but we're not the right race. We're
Speaker 1: either Asian or we're white males, in which case it
Speaker 1: doesn't apply. And Daniel Greenfield points that I think very well.
Speaker 1: And the fact that instead of having hiring by merit,
Speaker 1: it's done by race. It's the old affirmative action game.
Speaker 1: It's what it is today in twenty twenty five is reparations.
Speaker 1: And the argument for reparations as well, shall we say,
Speaker 1: not accepted by almost all the American people. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. It makes no sense at all, the
Speaker 1: reparations argument. And that's where we are. So the All
Speaker 1: Star Game tonight is underway. Almost all the players are
Speaker 1: persons of color, which is fine with me, doesn't bother
Speaker 1: me one bit. I think it's great the best and
Speaker 1: the brighter should play. But when other when the Cleveland Cavaliers,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks, and the New York Knicks hire internally
Speaker 1: the hundreds of employees they do it by DEI principles
Speaker 1: and not by merit. That is what we your grades
Speaker 1: in school. If there's some adjective tests, how'd you do
Speaker 1: on the test? Did you do well or did you
Speaker 1: do poorly? What is your previous criminal record, if any?
Speaker 1: And how motivated are you to work here? Irrespective of
Speaker 1: your color. DEI is reparations in another form. It is
Speaker 1: race discrimination in another form. It is affirmative action in
Speaker 1: another form. So stay tuned for more. As you know tonight,
Speaker 1: Rubyo is I believe tonight he's still in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: Not sure where is exactly. But my next guest, who's
Speaker 1: going to be Israel Elis who's an expert written a
Speaker 1: great book about Hamas's goals, what Amas tends to do,
Speaker 1: and it's not in line with civilization goals. So if
Speaker 1: line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven, seven
Speaker 1: three three seven plus later on we have Steven Mlog.
Speaker 1: We got terrible weather in the country. He's going to
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Speaker 1: Ty Bully Cunningham, the great American. Of course, what's happening
Speaker 1: in the Middle East right now affects the entire world,
Speaker 1: and as we speak, there's a plan to uh involve
Speaker 1: the Egyptians, the Jernanians and others. Maybe the Saudi ra
Speaker 1: As might be involved. When the recent batch of hostages
Speaker 1: was released, three of them, it came out and Israel
Speaker 1: press some of their treatment was abysmal. They spoke about
Speaker 1: families being tied together and set on fire, burned alive.
Speaker 1: They talked about babies being beheaded. They talked a course
Speaker 1: about Jewish women and being repeatedly raped by Hamas and
Speaker 1: held for almost five hundred days. And the first phase
Speaker 1: allegedly is going to continue about another two weeks. Then
Speaker 1: the second phase begins, which is, shall we say, a
Speaker 1: complete release of all the hostages and then peace. I
Speaker 1: guess one of the experts in the Middle East is
Speaker 1: author of the wake up call. His name, of course
Speaker 1: is Israel Ellis. He spent years and years studying the
Speaker 1: Middle East and a moss and things of that character.
Speaker 1: And according to reports on Friday and Saturday, there's a
Speaker 1: two thousand pound bombs that are buster bombs that can
Speaker 1: be used against against the Iranian nuclear forces well underground.
Speaker 1: And right now there's joy, at least in Israel about
Speaker 1: what is happening. But with the release of these hostages,
Speaker 1: there's still about three dozen remaining in captivity. Allegedly about
Speaker 1: half or more are dead, and then there might be
Speaker 1: another fifteen to twenty alive. We'll see what happens down
Speaker 1: the road. But once again, Israel Ellis, welcome to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And now that the first phase is
Speaker 1: about two weeks from completion and the second phase begins,
Speaker 1: can you see a possible scenario in which Hamas the
Speaker 1: individual standing around those hostages. Is it possible for peace
Speaker 1: to come to Middle East? If Hamas is still in
Speaker 1: control of gossip? Is that possible?
Speaker 7: It is not possible.
Speaker 3: Hamas must go.
Speaker 9: And Israel recognizes that the West recognizes that think that
Speaker 9: anybody is involved the situation, recognizes that there is no
Speaker 9: place in the future with Hamas.
Speaker 7: It is a theater of the obscene. What is going on?
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen when Hamas refuses to put down their arms.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I don't know if there's a five
Speaker 1: thousand left, fifteen thousand left, and to me, as soon
Speaker 1: as they know, as soon as they released the last hostage,
Speaker 1: that's when all hell's going to break loose. So Hamas
Speaker 1: is not energized to release any hostages because that's their
Speaker 1: get out of jail free card. And at some point,
Speaker 1: whether it's Donald Trump or Benjamin Netanyahu, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do what should have been done a long time ago,
Speaker 1: which is eliminate when I when I listen to Marco
Speaker 1: Rubio or JD or the President, they must be eliminated
Speaker 1: from the face of the earth. That is Hamas going
Speaker 1: to participate in their own demise by releasing all the hostile.
Speaker 9: Well, we keep on talking about Hamas as the singular
Speaker 9: the singular front that is representative of what's going on
Speaker 9: in Gaza, and I think that's a bit of a
Speaker 9: sort of a misconception of what it's like sort of
Speaker 9: in that region and what it's like going on there.
Speaker 9: Hamas is a brand, if you want to call it that,
Speaker 9: and until the brand is destroyed. So what there are
Speaker 9: multiple other factions that are at play over here as well,
Speaker 9: that you know that I.
Speaker 7: Don't think we're talking about.
Speaker 9: So it isn't really about Hamas because the brand Hamas
Speaker 9: will not exist.
Speaker 7: It'll be ground into history, It'll be a something in
Speaker 7: our rearview mirror.
Speaker 9: But what about all the other, you know, fractional elements
Speaker 9: that are born out of this. Now, I want to
Speaker 9: keep something in mind. With every hostage that has been released,
Speaker 9: one hundred tears, prisoners released from Israeli jail, these are murderers,
Speaker 9: these are terrorists, and these are people who are going.
Speaker 7: To rebuild the terrorism.
Speaker 9: And so even if HAMASC goes, I mean, I don't
Speaker 9: know what the difference is between Hamas and isis you,
Speaker 9: but I can tell you that there are Islamic fundamental
Speaker 9: Jihattis everywhere, and they are multiple brands at play.
Speaker 7: So let's get out of let's get out of.
Speaker 9: The narrative of oh Hamas has to go, because it's
Speaker 9: not just Hamasta that's.
Speaker 7: Involved over there.
Speaker 9: They just seem to be the predominant political power. Yes,
Speaker 9: they're gone, they're outlawed, they're finished. But what happens to
Speaker 9: the people behind them? Us?
Speaker 7: Do you think they also leave?
Speaker 9: They're just going to be relabeled, rebranded, reparactorizing something else.
Speaker 9: And then we're going to hear about the X factor,
Speaker 9: the new X factor that's going to come into play.
Speaker 9: It's all very.
Speaker 7: Connected over here.
Speaker 9: It's connected in the sense that, yeah, go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 1: They're stabbings all over Europe, Austria, Germany and the Netherlands
Speaker 1: inspired by ISIS Islamic state in Syria Syria doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: How much they're all kinds Okay, what is the religion?
Speaker 1: I can't think of a religion in the last five
Speaker 1: hundred years that says the way to get to heaven
Speaker 1: is to kill innocent people, to rape Jewish women.
Speaker 7: I mean, a lot better way.
Speaker 9: What better way they'll build and convince people to commit
Speaker 9: suicide than to promise them seventy two virgins and to
Speaker 9: tell them this is the instruction of God. A lot
Speaker 9: of these people are marginalized. A lot of these people
Speaker 9: they're they're they're you know, sort of manipulated in a
Speaker 9: cult like faction by by the jihadist So let's talk
Speaker 9: about the head of the stake. Let's talk about where
Speaker 9: this is coming. And I'm just going to show you
Speaker 9: how everything is connected. First of all, the Iranian Islamic
Speaker 9: regime has got their nuclear ambitions and everything that they're
Speaker 9: doing in the proxy of terrors that they have going
Speaker 9: on around the world. And then the global g head
Speaker 9: that I talk about in my book The wake Up Call,
Speaker 9: and The wake Up Call talks about the Global g
Speaker 9: Hut at length, is where they have corrupted the Koran
Speaker 9: to turn it into some kind of religious doctrine to
Speaker 9: go out there and commit these acts of terror. And
Speaker 9: they're not just You're absolutely right, those acts of terror
Speaker 9: not just in Gaza.
Speaker 7: They're not just in Seer. They're not happy.
Speaker 9: They're happening in your back yard. They happen in New Orleans,
Speaker 9: they happen and they just happen to Munich.
Speaker 7: I mean everywhere in the.
Speaker 9: World are these participants, these disenfranchised souls that get sucked
Speaker 9: in and manipulated by this cult. And so what we
Speaker 9: need to deal with is we need to deal with
Speaker 9: the head of the snake. So, please God, those two
Speaker 9: thousand pound bombs that have been delivered to Israel. Hopefully
Speaker 9: they're on an express post run to Tehran because you
Speaker 9: got to take out the nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine.
Speaker 7: Can you imagine the Islamic regime, the.
Speaker 9: Head of the jihadis the guys who have designed all
Speaker 9: of this, having nuclear capabilities and holding that over the
Speaker 9: rest of the world. You think it was bad enough
Speaker 9: to have to negotiate the bizarre theater of the obscene
Speaker 9: with the Hamas, can you imagine what it's going to
Speaker 9: be like to have to be put into a situation
Speaker 9: to negotiate with the Islamic with the Iran Islamic regime.
Speaker 9: That's just that we can't get to that point. We
Speaker 9: absolutely can't get to that point. So it's very connected.
Speaker 9: And you know, when Trump talks about the plan for Gaza,
Speaker 9: that's another connection. And when we talk about, you know,
Speaker 9: the Gates of Hell, this terminology of the Gaza Hell,
Speaker 9: it's another connection. And when we talk about the ongoing
Speaker 9: hostage and ceasfar situation, all of these things are connected
Speaker 9: into what is happening every single day in the region
Speaker 9: but also affecting the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: You can only imagine Iran according to media accounts if
Speaker 1: you can believe them that Iran is within a few
Speaker 1: weeks of having a nuclear weapon. And you can only
Speaker 1: imagine a nuclear weapon smuggled in the hands of Hamas
Speaker 1: or Hezbola or Isis or Boca Haram just name or
Speaker 1: Taliban named the terrorist group which is developing terror all
Speaker 1: over the world and wants to bring it to our shores.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Israel's reaction when it is known that
Speaker 1: Iran has nuclear weapons and are prepared to use them
Speaker 1: against Israel. There's ten million individuals who live in Israel,
Speaker 1: about six million or Jews, and they believe never again.
Speaker 1: When I visit at the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem about
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, never again is everywhere.
Speaker 1: And I would be shocked if baseball begins play in
Speaker 1: April without a major attack on Iran to take away
Speaker 1: their nuclear capability.
Speaker 7: Bill.
Speaker 9: The subtitle of my book is a World Gone Mad,
Speaker 9: And when I talked about a world gun mad, I'm
Speaker 9: not talking about crazy here. I'm talking about the acronym.
Speaker 7: For mutually assured destruction.
Speaker 9: Because we have, over the last seventy five years plus,
Speaker 9: have negotiated foreign diplomacy based on the fact that everyone
Speaker 9: involved as a.
Speaker 7: Lover of life.
Speaker 9: But here you're dealing the lover of life, is dealing
Speaker 9: with the lover of death, and mutually assured destruction is
Speaker 9: no longer a viable construct when we're using trying to
Speaker 9: be diplomatic. The Biden administration and understand that, and they
Speaker 9: thought they could go back and they could go back
Speaker 9: to the table with Iran and work things out. You
Speaker 9: cannot work out things with these people. And it's not Iran,
Speaker 9: by the way, bill, because I know a lot of Persians,
Speaker 9: I know a lot of Iranians are good people. This
Speaker 9: is the Islamic regime of Iran that is today in
Speaker 9: control of what is happening in Iran, and that is
Speaker 9: worse because they are holding that country, are holding all
Speaker 9: these people.
Speaker 7: If you pull.
Speaker 9: Theran, you pulled all these people, all the civilians there.
Speaker 9: They're not complicit like the people in Gaza. I don't
Speaker 9: believe they're complicit to all of this. And if you
Speaker 9: pull them, they would be more than happy to see
Speaker 9: this regime gone. So there, the regime is what complicates
Speaker 9: the situation even further is that the reneeme is holding
Speaker 9: these people are the ultimate human shields here in this whole,
Speaker 9: in this whole game. So yeah, it's it's just not
Speaker 9: going to happen. Okay, In the next coming weeks, Israel
Speaker 9: and the US are going to have a concerted effort
Speaker 9: to take out these allot of regimes. I hope Comedie
Speaker 9: has his bags packed because he's going to see his
Speaker 9: seventy two versions really soon. I also think that plan,
Speaker 9: that that Trump's plan. I know, you kind of we
Speaker 9: kind of talked about the connections between these things, but
Speaker 9: Trump's plan is brilliant. We need to get the Palestinians
Speaker 9: out of Gaza. And whether it's temporary with or it's permanent,
Speaker 9: I don't know. But we're not talking, you know, people
Speaker 9: of like, oh my god, that's a horrible situation.
Speaker 7: It's a horrible solution. How can you that's like genocide.
Speaker 9: First of all, it's not genocide because the fact is
Speaker 9: that there's been mass complicity here.
Speaker 7: Civilians went there.
Speaker 9: Were thousands of thousands of civilians who broke through the
Speaker 9: fence on October seventh and went to facilitate the murder
Speaker 9: of Jews and facilitate the the feeling of goods and
Speaker 9: things like that. So all of that goes out the window.
Speaker 7: When they say this can't happen.
Speaker 9: But I've got a plan for you, Bill that I
Speaker 9: want to tell you today.
Speaker 7: There are thirteen countries.
Speaker 9: There are thirteen countries out there that have done nothing
Speaker 9: but vilify Israel and support the Palestinians. And I say
Speaker 9: that it's time for these countries to put their money
Speaker 9: where their mouth is and to take in the Palestinians
Speaker 9: into their homes. And I'm going to talk to you
Speaker 9: about thirteen countries Iran, Katar, Turkey, eleven On, Syria, of Pakistan, Malaysia,
Speaker 9: South Africa, Ireland, Norway, Spain, Columbia and Brazil.
Speaker 7: Well, you know what, guys, it's time.
Speaker 9: For you to to It's time for you to cough up,
Speaker 9: to come to the table. Because if we go ahead
Speaker 9: and we distribute all the Palestinians in Gaza between these
Speaker 9: thirteen countries, that's one hundred and fifty three thousand people.
Speaker 7: Now, I want to think about it for a moment.
Speaker 9: Canada took in a million people, a million point two
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty thousand, of which one hundred and fifty
Speaker 9: thousand were Palestinians last year alone. Okay, to the demise
Speaker 9: of Canada, Intrudeau's an idiot. But that's another story. But
Speaker 9: the fact is is that one hundred and fifty three
Speaker 9: thousand people per country take them there. It is absolutely
Speaker 9: it is absolutely unheard of for these people to be
Speaker 9: able to walk through the rubble. You're talking about sending
Speaker 9: gasms home. There is nothing there. It is a parking lot.
Speaker 9: And what's even more dangerous is there is booby traps
Speaker 9: all over the place. There are bombs everywhere, there's tunnels,
Speaker 9: there's more cachet of weapons. We can't have people there
Speaker 9: otherwise it's never going to end. We got to clean
Speaker 9: that place up. People cannot go back into Gaza because
Speaker 9: it is a It is an absolute hellhole as it exists.
Speaker 7: And guess what. Countries like Qatar they.
Speaker 9: Funded all that, all their money. They were delivering three
Speaker 9: hundred million dollars of cores annually, three hundred and sixty
Speaker 9: million dollars to be exact, thirty to fifty million dollars
Speaker 9: a month into Camas's hands without any controls, knowing that
Speaker 9: Hamas was building tunnels, knowing that they were building up
Speaker 9: cachets of arms. So guess what, Qatar, this is your fault, this.
Speaker 7: Is your doing.
Speaker 9: It's now time to take responsibility for what you've done.
Speaker 9: Take in the palaest In and people house them, feed them,
Speaker 9: clothe them, educate them, civilize them while we clean up Gaza,
Speaker 9: get all that cleaned up. So I completely agree with transplane.
Speaker 9: I think it's a very genuine plan. I think it's actual.
Speaker 9: It's actually got a lot of it's got a lot
Speaker 9: of legs to it.
Speaker 1: And the other issue is the great majority of Muslim
Speaker 1: Arab states want Iran to be taken down. The Emirates, Qatar,
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, they all want them gone, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen sometime in the next couple of weeks to a
Speaker 1: couple of months. I can't conceive it getting to spring
Speaker 1: and summer with Iran getting closer a nuclear weapon when
Speaker 1: they're a culture of death, not one of life. Well,
Speaker 1: we got to run Israelis. You're out there, Yeah, please
Speaker 1: go ahead, a minute remaining, go ahead.
Speaker 9: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave you with one thing, Okay,
Speaker 9: there is no seventy two versions when.
Speaker 7: You drive a Bugatti.
Speaker 9: All of these all these countries are living extremely well.
Speaker 9: They've got some fantastic societies. They are living in a
Speaker 9: great quality of life. They don't want Iran the they
Speaker 9: don't want the Islamic regime of Iran to be successful
Speaker 9: here that your Egg's absolutely right.
Speaker 7: They want them out.
Speaker 9: Countries around they want them out, and they want peace
Speaker 9: in the region because the fact is is that you know,
Speaker 9: peace equals prosperity for everybody.
Speaker 7: Bill, your reader's got to go.
Speaker 9: Ahead and read my book because it's a it's it's
Speaker 9: a very objective and balanced and extremely informative and well
Speaker 9: cited and well researched, and it tells the history and
Speaker 9: it talks about the solutions.
Speaker 7: Because everyone could be a critic. I'm not just a critic.
Speaker 9: I am a person who seeks solutions. And the book
Speaker 9: they wake up, called Global Gad and the Rising of
Speaker 9: Anti Semitism in a World got Mad, is providing solutions
Speaker 9: that makes seven observations of how October seventh happened. And
Speaker 9: I am providing solutions globally. And I hope that I
Speaker 9: just had a copy delivered by the way to President Trump.
Speaker 9: I hope that that people take take take take heed
Speaker 9: to it and that they and they learn something from it.
Speaker 9: And if you read that book, it's very plainly put
Speaker 9: and I think it'll provide a lot of history for everybody.
Speaker 1: It's the wake up call Israel Elis once again, let's
Speaker 1: keep the lines of communication open. The next few weeks
Speaker 1: is going to be a rough ride. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to strap it on and get ready to support Israel
Speaker 1: and what they have to do. Once again, Israel, Ellis,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Israel.
Speaker 1: You're a great American. Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 9: I'm a Canadian, Bill, I'm not a doctor, and I'm
Speaker 9: not an American.
Speaker 7: I'm a game, but I am definitely a friend of America.
Speaker 7: I am afraid of American.
Speaker 9: I appreciate your support for Israel, the Jewish people and
Speaker 9: all good people, all JDA Christians out there. I really
Speaker 9: appreciate Bill. Thank you, and God bless.
Speaker 1: You, God bless you. And once again America beat Canada
Speaker 1: and that four nation hockey tournament. But that's a different issue.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Israel. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: with you every Sunday night. My Billy Cunningham, the great American,
Speaker 1: and say what you will. That guy knows quite a
Speaker 1: bit about what is happening, what has happened. Even though
Speaker 1: he's a Canadian and what's going to happen to Iran
Speaker 1: in the next several weeks. It must end. The head
Speaker 1: of the snake must be taken down, and then the
Speaker 1: world's given a chance at peace. And believe it or not,
Speaker 1: the most of the world would agree with that, and
Speaker 1: it wouldn't take any large military operation. They have an
Speaker 1: oil terminal about ten miles off the coast. They have
Speaker 1: two large dams that provide all the electricity for the
Speaker 1: whole country, and the defense ministry needs to be eliminated
Speaker 1: in Iran. It's sad. The Iranian people are a great
Speaker 1: people and they deserve so much better than what they're
Speaker 1: getting right now, and they're not getting it. But I
Speaker 1: think Benjamin Netcinaw who's going to give it to him.
Speaker 1: He's getting out as many hostages as possible. But allegedly,
Speaker 1: over the next two weeks, phase one is done. There's
Speaker 1: about thirty seven hostages remaining, allegedly half or dead. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're a hostage if you're dead, but that's
Speaker 1: a different issue. These are vicious murderers and if Amas
Speaker 1: stays in charge of gossip, this is going to continue
Speaker 1: for a very long period of time, and that cannot
Speaker 1: be allowed to occur. And in fact, this Saudi Arabia
Speaker 1: cutter the Emirates, none of them went to Hamas to
Speaker 1: be anywhere involved, although they funded repeatedly because it's good
Speaker 1: for domestic politics. So let's continue with more coming up
Speaker 1: next as Stephen mlloy the weather is terrible everywhere. He's
Speaker 1: going to come with some of the predictions of the
Speaker 1: past of what the climatologists told us was going to happen,
Speaker 1: and none of them, of course did was later on
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Speaker 1: the Great American. Steve mlloy, among other things, a Senior
Speaker 1: Fellow with the Energy and Environmental Legal Institute, a former
Speaker 1: Trump epa transition team member, also editor of Junk Science
Speaker 1: dot com, and once again Steve mlloy, Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And you have a great column up
Speaker 1: about the Inflation Reduction Act, which has had some numbers
Speaker 1: that don't look good on paper. In fact, they look
Speaker 1: terrible for the going forward. And part of that reason is,
Speaker 1: of course, all the money that Biden and the Democrats
Speaker 1: dumped into the economy causing nine percent inflation about two
Speaker 1: and a half years ago. And in your column you
Speaker 1: referenced Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who's a great American,
Speaker 1: who talks about Congress and the Green new scam, and
Speaker 1: you have page after page, list after list of the spending,
Speaker 1: all of which generates great inflation. When you dumb trillions
Speaker 1: of dollars into the economy and there's a restriction of products,
Speaker 1: guess what, the price has got to go up. So
Speaker 1: what would you like to see happen in the first
Speaker 1: several months, which I think after the first three or
Speaker 1: four weeks, it's unbelievable. With the Trump term, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about clean energy production tax credit. I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: Clean Energy Investment tax credit. I'm talking about EV tax credits.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about advanced manufacturing production tax credits. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about carbon oxide sequestration tax credits, the clean hydrogen production
Speaker 1: tax credit. I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 1: All this is in the Green new Scam. Explain that
Speaker 1: to the American people.
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, so Joe Biden passed the green News scam
Speaker 11: through a special legislative process called budget reconciliation. Was not
Speaker 11: subject to the filibuster. So all they needed was you know,
Speaker 11: fifty one votes, which they got through the help of
Speaker 11: you know, Joe Mansion. And so we're stuck with this
Speaker 11: trillion dollars worth of wasteful spending on all the things
Speaker 11: you just mentioned, and we've got to end it because
Speaker 11: it is it's contributing to inflation. It's making inflation worse.
Speaker 11: I mean, along with Joe Biden's Wargan's fossil fuels. I mean,
Speaker 11: this is you know, this is also driving up cost
Speaker 11: of energy, which is inflationary. And so we need to
Speaker 11: get rid of the Inflation Reduction Act, which is the
Speaker 11: underlying law. We could do it the same way that
Speaker 11: it was passed through budget reconciliation. Conveniently, President Trump is
Speaker 11: looking at one or two budget reconciliation packages sometime in
Speaker 11: the first half the year. And you know, Republicans, if
Speaker 11: they have the courage and I have not been corrupted
Speaker 11: by the money, could make it easy for President Trump
Speaker 11: and just you know, repeal the entire inflation Reduction Act
Speaker 11: and all this wasteful spending. I'm hoping that will happen,
Speaker 11: but I'm not sure there's you know, President Trump has
Speaker 11: a more difficult backup plan, which you're kind of seeing
Speaker 11: in action right now, with does just going into these
Speaker 11: the agencies, finding the corrupt spending and saying, you know,
Speaker 11: Congress didn't attend for this money to be spent correctly. So, uh,
Speaker 11: there's two ways. There's a there's an easy way and
Speaker 11: hard way. And you know, I'm hoping Republicans in Congress
Speaker 11: don't make it, don't make President Trump have to do
Speaker 11: it the hard way.
Speaker 1: You stay a lawyer. In your column, you talk about
Speaker 1: a trillion dollars one point oh seven trillion dollars of
Speaker 1: the cost. The Clean Energy Production Tax Credit had a
Speaker 1: cost of two hundred and thirty five billion. The Clean
Speaker 1: Energy Investment Tax Credit cost a one hundred and ten billion.
Speaker 1: The EV tax credits was three hundred and sixteen billion
Speaker 1: dollars out of the treasury. The carbon oxide Sequestration Tax
Speaker 1: Credit was sixty one billion. It goes on and on
Speaker 1: up to a up to a trillion dollars. Do you
Speaker 1: know how much money has been shoveled into the economy.
Speaker 1: Is there some money to capture? So when you say,
Speaker 1: like the Trumpster says, we're going to terminate the Green
Speaker 1: new scam, We're going to get rid of that, and
Speaker 1: you have terminate next to it. But how much money
Speaker 1: has already gone out the door it can't be.
Speaker 11: Stopped, Well, it's hard to say. I think that those
Speaker 11: is trying to find that out right now. As of
Speaker 11: before the election, about one hundred and forty billion dollars
Speaker 11: had been wasted. And then of course after the election
Speaker 11: we all read about how the Bide administration has just
Speaker 11: been shoveling out money as fast as they can. Of course,
Speaker 11: a lot of that is you know, waste fraud abuse
Speaker 11: of course, as all Green New scams making is. So
Speaker 11: there's you know, probably at least a couple hundred billion
Speaker 11: dollars has already been wasted. But President Trump could and
Speaker 11: could make sure that we never get to that trillion
Speaker 11: dollars spending. And I think that everything has been frozen
Speaker 11: right now, there's no money going out. Of course, you know,
Speaker 11: we're going to have fights in the courts and the
Speaker 11: left is going to forum shop. Finally, left wing judges
Speaker 11: to say what Trump is doing is somehow illegal and unconstitutional,
Speaker 11: But that's nonsense. I mean, it is not illegal for
Speaker 11: the president not to commit fraud.
Speaker 1: And as an attorney and former assistant ag in the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio, I respect courts, but there's about four
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty US district court judges. They do not
Speaker 1: conduct foreign policy, they do not conduct domestic spending. It's
Speaker 1: up to the President and the Congress to do that.
Speaker 1: And so when you have a federal judge in Rhode
Speaker 1: Island issuing orders against Donald Trump not to seek waste,
Speaker 1: fraud and abuse in USAID and don't go after them,
Speaker 1: I would hope to think of responsible judges at some
Speaker 1: point we get involved. We have one president popularly elected.
Speaker 1: We don't have four hundred district court federal judges issuing
Speaker 1: their own policies on the On the matter of EV
Speaker 1: tax credits, I noticed in the Wall Street Journal about
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks ago that Ford Motor Company
Speaker 1: lost last year in twenty twenty four five point one
Speaker 1: billion dollars. That's five thousand, one hundred billion dollars. That's
Speaker 1: five point one billion on evs. Fortunately, the company made
Speaker 1: on combustion engines about five point six billion, so they're
Speaker 1: not had to tour to bankruptcy. And according to the
Speaker 1: according to Farley, who's the president and CEO of Ford,
Speaker 1: he says in twenty twenty five, we're gonna lose more money.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, you got to be kidding me.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know, this green stuff has just made everybody crazy.
Speaker 11: And of course, you know, Ford is left led by leftists.
Speaker 11: They can't really do math, they don't want to do math.
Speaker 11: They just want to advance leslie agenda.
Speaker 3: Ford lost.
Speaker 11: You know what that figure you mentioned that five point
Speaker 11: one billion in losses works out to about seventeen thousand
Speaker 11: dollars per ev sold. What kind of businessman does it?
Speaker 11: Henry Ford would obviously never have done that. We have
Speaker 11: got to end the green news scam and all the
Speaker 11: climate hoax and all this green stuff. It has is
Speaker 11: gotten out of control. It's been out of control for
Speaker 11: a long time, and I think we're at the point. Look,
Speaker 11: we're thirty six trillion dollars in debt. We pay more
Speaker 11: than a trillion dollars in interest payments credit you know,
Speaker 11: essentially credit card debt every year. This this has got
Speaker 11: to end. And you know, I'm you know, it's going
Speaker 11: to be ugly in the news for a long time,
Speaker 11: and we're going to have ugly court fights, but it's
Speaker 11: got to be done. You know, people are claiming that
Speaker 11: Trump is Trump is a monarch and a king, and
Speaker 11: you know, Busnik, no, he is trying to save the country. Now,
Speaker 11: one day we're going to have to put the presidency,
Speaker 11: you know, cut the presidency back down the size and
Speaker 11: have constitutional government. But right now we need to end
Speaker 11: this or we're going to be done.
Speaker 1: At your website, junk science, do you have a blog
Speaker 1: that is wrong? Again? Fifty years have failed eco apocalyptic predictions,
Speaker 1: and you have you've come with the receipts. For example,
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven in the Los Angeles Times, big
Speaker 1: story dire famine forecasted by nineteen seventy five, so they
Speaker 1: predicted eight years from nineteen sixty seven there would be
Speaker 1: dire famine. I'm reading the story. It is already too
Speaker 1: late for the world to avoid a long period of
Speaker 1: famine similar to the Dark Ages, a Stanford University climatologist said.
Speaker 1: And he goes on and this story talks about within
Speaker 1: eight or nine years we're going to be We're going
Speaker 1: to be a ferreting. We're gonna be eating grass. We're
Speaker 1: going to be in the woods eating leaves and bark.
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable. How'd that turn out?
Speaker 11: Yes, So the guy that made that prediction is Paul Erlick. He's,
Speaker 11: you know, part of the National Academy of Sciences. So
Speaker 11: the left thinks he's really really small. But of course
Speaker 11: he was completely wrong. I mean, you know, he said
Speaker 11: he predicted starvation, mass starvation by nineteen seventy five. Well,
Speaker 11: you know, let's fast forward to today. Since nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 11: the world's population has more than doubled. We have so
Speaker 11: much food we'd burn it for energy.
Speaker 1: We have so much food we throw away one third
Speaker 1: of whatever we order. Another story in New York Times,
Speaker 1: August tenth, nineteen sixty nine, A pollution. A foe of
Speaker 1: pollution sees lack of time, the trouble with almost all
Speaker 1: environmental problems, says Paul Aerlick, who was an apostle of
Speaker 1: this stuff. He said, we must realize that, unless we're
Speaker 1: extremely lucky, everyone will disappear in a cloud of blue
Speaker 1: steam in twenty years. So he said, by nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: you and I would be in a cloud breathing into
Speaker 1: a critic and arsenic and that we would like evaporate.
Speaker 1: How'd that work out?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think he said we would disappear at a
Speaker 11: cloud of blue steam. Well, these people are always wrong,
Speaker 11: They've been wrong for fifty years. And of course they
Speaker 11: have these because they rely on nutjobs. I mean Paul
Speaker 11: Rwick nutjob, Alexandria Kazia Cortez nutjob, Grant the Thirdnberg, Grestenberg
Speaker 11: nut job, Al Gore nut job, John Kerry nudjob, I mean, commine,
Speaker 11: what do you expect?
Speaker 3: Recall that?
Speaker 7: Just you know.
Speaker 11: Within the past eighteen months, Joe Biden said that nuclear
Speaker 11: war is worse than global warming. I'm sorry, global warming
Speaker 11: is worse than nuclear war.
Speaker 3: Honey, Come on, he's crazy.
Speaker 1: How about this prediction from the Boston Globe of nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine signs predict a new Ice Age by the
Speaker 1: twenty first century. Experts say air pollution may obliterate the
Speaker 1: sun and cause a new ice Age in the first
Speaker 1: third of the next century. James P. Lodge also warned
Speaker 1: that if the current rate of increase in electric power continues,
Speaker 1: we will be dark. There will be no electricity production.
Speaker 1: By the twenty first century, the demands for a cooling
Speaker 1: water will boiled dry. The entire flow of the rivers
Speaker 1: and streams of the content of the United States will
Speaker 1: all run dry. He also warned that by the next
Speaker 1: century we're in it now, the consumption of oxygen and
Speaker 1: combustion processes worldwide will surpass all the processes which return
Speaker 1: oxygen to the atmosphere. We will not be able to breathe.
Speaker 1: We may have to dig caves, live underground. According to Lodge,
Speaker 1: a scientist with the Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, said
Speaker 1: Alaska and Awhi are already consuming more oxygen than their
Speaker 1: own green plants can replace. Therefore, we will die and
Speaker 1: the New Ice Age will arrive. You might recall in
Speaker 1: the late nineteen seventies that we had ice and snow everywhere,
Speaker 1: and time Newsweek magazine said the coming New Ice Age.
Speaker 1: How'd that prediction turn out?
Speaker 11: Yeah, So in the seventies they were worried about the
Speaker 11: ice age. Then when it started to warm up, it
Speaker 11: became global warming. But when the warming didn't really work out,
Speaker 11: it became climate change. And when the people saw there's
Speaker 11: no climate changes, it became extreme weather and now we're
Speaker 11: at a point where, you know, seasonal weather, you know,
Speaker 11: winter weather in wintertime is climate change?
Speaker 1: They change not even having climate change, Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1: And how about us science and season new ice age coming?
Speaker 1: This is another one. A government official says the world
Speaker 1: could be under thirty to fifty inches of snow in
Speaker 1: the next twenty to twenty five years, says doctor Raskell
Speaker 1: of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration clumb University. Within
Speaker 1: the next fifty years, the Arctic could could be essentially
Speaker 1: under one hundred feet of ice, and the Equator itself
Speaker 1: could be snow covered by the year twenty ten.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's only too bad that around so that we
Speaker 11: can mock them, right, I mean, they should be on
Speaker 11: TV explaining themselves and you know, debunking all this all
Speaker 11: this apocalyptic thinking. You know, today's today's apocalyptics are all
Speaker 11: you know, they're not doing it because they're crazy. They're
Speaker 11: doing it because they're communists and they want us to
Speaker 11: surrender control of our lives and surrender our standard of
Speaker 11: living to them, you know. So, I mean, at least
Speaker 11: those people were just wrong, but today's apocalyptics are knowing
Speaker 11: they wrong.
Speaker 7: But they're evil.
Speaker 1: What are some of the apocalyptic terms being used today?
Speaker 1: If you and I are around another fifty years and
Speaker 1: talk radio still exists, and your grandchildren are still around
Speaker 1: the the what are the predictions now and say, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty five that are going to be wrong?
Speaker 1: For example, we're being told that Florida is going to
Speaker 1: be under about six feet of water, that the not
Speaker 1: an ice age, we're going to we're all going to
Speaker 1: boil to death, and that the oceans are rising, the
Speaker 1: temperatures are going up, and we're past the point at
Speaker 1: which that win out can control it. If we go
Speaker 1: past two degrees fahrenheit, two point five degrees fahrenheit is
Speaker 1: the point of no return. What does all that mean?
Speaker 11: Well, I don't know what, you know. Unlike these people,
Speaker 11: I don't predict the future. I just it's just impossible,
Speaker 11: you know. All I know is that everything they've ever
Speaker 11: predicted has been fault, has not come true. Their predictions
Speaker 11: are fake. They're not science. Nothing they say, nothing they
Speaker 11: predict is ever going to happen because they're always wrong,
Speaker 11: and they're wrong, not because they make factual error. They're
Speaker 11: wrong because they're you know, driven by their policy agenda,
Speaker 11: and you know, I don't know what the future holds.
Speaker 11: I mean, humanity has survived all sorts of slight climate change.
Speaker 11: And that's the only thing that can ever really happen,
Speaker 11: slight climate change unless there's a catastrophe like you know,
Speaker 11: nuclear war, you know, global nuclear war, or an asteroid
Speaker 11: hits something like that, you know, that could change the climate.
Speaker 11: But emissions, there's no evidence that emissions have had any effect,
Speaker 11: let alone a warming effect, let alone a harmful effect
Speaker 11: on our planet.
Speaker 1: Lastly, the acid rain was a big thing about twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago. Had lines all over the country acid
Speaker 1: rain kills lake killed. I'm sorry, acid rain kills life
Speaker 1: in lakes. There's no the fish are being killed all
Speaker 1: over Minnesota, Michigan. All the lakes are dying. Then about
Speaker 1: fifteen years later, the US government came out with a
Speaker 1: long study quote acid rain no environmental impact study concludes.
Speaker 1: So we changed.
Speaker 11: Another classic hoax. First off, all rain is acidic. It
Speaker 11: comes through the atmosphere, the water mixes with the carbon
Speaker 11: do side, and it's you know, and the other gases
Speaker 11: in the atmosphere, and so it's slightly acidic. But then
Speaker 11: when it falls to the ground, it gets neutralized. This
Speaker 11: is you know, and there's no evidence that the lakes
Speaker 11: or waterways became more cidic. Today we hear about ocean acidification.
Speaker 11: There's no such thing happening. First off, the ocean is
Speaker 11: not acidifying. You know, maybe it's becoming slightly less basic,
Speaker 11: but you know, cleaning ocean is acidification is like saying
Speaker 11: that two is more negative than three.
Speaker 9: It's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, in the year two thousand and one, within
Speaker 1: twenty years the Malbes, the Islands, and the Pacific, two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people should be under the ocean. Twenty five
Speaker 1: years later, there's been no rise whatsoever in the Maldives
Speaker 1: that they still exist. They're still doing quite well. And
Speaker 1: in fact, we had a dry summer. We've had kind
Speaker 1: of a cold winter, especially in the Midwest, weather's been terrible.
Speaker 1: But that's never an example. So give us the facts.
Speaker 1: We went about two minutes from Manning Steve Maloy junk
Speaker 1: science dot com.
Speaker 12: What are they?
Speaker 1: What is the present thing?
Speaker 11: The fahrenheit thinking, You know, the most recent data shows
Speaker 11: that like ninety percent of them are actually increasing in
Speaker 11: size and increasing is not decreasing as far as I
Speaker 11: can tell.
Speaker 8: So there's no there there.
Speaker 11: I'm telling you. If these people are talking, they're lying, and.
Speaker 1: They're doing it for power positions and money. Look at
Speaker 1: what USA has found, which is millions of dollars handed
Speaker 1: out to think tanks to come to a defined conclusion
Speaker 1: that will drive public policy. And I think that's the key.
Speaker 1: They want a defined conclusion to drive public policy, which
Speaker 1: is always spending more money.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I can't wait till those gets over to EPA
Speaker 11: and the Department of Energy and Department of Interior and
Speaker 11: we can find out, you know, how much money has
Speaker 11: been wasted on not only crazy climate research and clean
Speaker 11: energy projects, but how much money has gone to these
Speaker 11: green activist groups. So the government is paying the green
Speaker 11: activist groups to lobby the government or you know, do
Speaker 11: other nefarious work to advance this lestling agenda. We need
Speaker 11: to learn about that.
Speaker 1: Lastly, quote, children won't know what snow is. That's the
Speaker 1: year two thousand that snow. Children have no idea what
Speaker 1: that is. Famine will be rampant, the skies will turn green,
Speaker 1: all of us will live underground. Sure, any of that
Speaker 1: is true. I see snow everywhere. But nonetheless, Steve mlloy
Speaker 1: once again junk science dot Com. It's all there. Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, Steve, thank you,
Speaker 1: well said, it's all free. God bless you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more headline New York Times. Two thousand
Speaker 1: children won't know what snow is. Bill Cunningham, the Great American,
Speaker 1: live with you every Sunday night. You know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of amazing. We have the stories I shared with you
Speaker 1: with Steve mlloy Junkstump. The kids were told forty years ago,
Speaker 1: thirty years ago they would never see snow again. When
Speaker 1: I look out at the window, all I see is snow.
Speaker 1: When I look around, all I see is ice. And
Speaker 1: every prediction of the climate alarmists has proven to be false.
Speaker 1: Whatever difficulties we have, they can be solved. All of
Speaker 1: us are against pollution, but none of us believe that
Speaker 1: the humankind can affect the rotation of the plan. Let's
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Speaker 1: and on The Today Show, correspondent Ryan Nobles ripped Trump
Speaker 1: for quotes suggesting the aviation system is outdated without providing
Speaker 1: examples to which you know it is. So, how does
Speaker 1: the media say one thing about air traffic controllers that
Speaker 1: may contribute to airplane crashes, et cetera. On one hand,
Speaker 1: but on the other hand, we know it's an outdated
Speaker 1: system because the American people are getting the correct information.
Speaker 1: Explain that to the American people.
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, Bill, I mean, I think without evidence is
Speaker 12: like the liberal media's favorite catchphrase. You feel like, you know,
Speaker 12: they love saying that. They love saying that to describe
Speaker 12: anything alleged about anything by anyone they don't like, regardless
Speaker 12: of whether it's true or not. It's the new your
Speaker 12: racist or your sexist. They use this as an attempt
Speaker 12: to shut down discussion of, you know, whatever they want
Speaker 12: to talk about. In this case, it's air traffic control.
Speaker 12: The other thing that's really been in the news is
Speaker 12: Doge Friday Morning CNN high this insane Tiron saying Trump
Speaker 12: musk alleged massive fraud in government without solid proofs. It's
Speaker 12: the same sort of thing they do this on issue
Speaker 12: after issue, where you know, they'll say that, oh, there's
Speaker 12: not there's not fraud. You know, there's not fraud in government. No,
Speaker 12: thea is just fine. Uh, just forget about just forget
Speaker 12: about the fact that you know, people have been saying
Speaker 12: this for decades NAKA the Union for our Traffic Controllers
Speaker 12: have been saying, uh, something needs to change. Forget about
Speaker 12: all that stuff. There's no evidence. It's amazing to see Bill,
Speaker 12: how you know. I mean, we knew this to be
Speaker 12: true already, but the left has gone, you know, from
Speaker 12: claiming to stand up for the little guy and working people,
Speaker 12: average Americans to providing aid and comfort to the government.
Speaker 12: That's really what this is. Oh, the poor federal workers,
Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, this is this is just awful. They're
Speaker 12: just you know, these people are glorified college professors with tenure.
Speaker 12: That's really what we been dealing with. Yes, people go
Speaker 12: in there for job security and government. But at the
Speaker 12: same time, the idea that they've never been you know,
Speaker 12: exposed to or have to deal with uncertain job environments,
Speaker 12: which literally the rest of the ninety nine percent of
Speaker 12: the country has to deal with is just rich.
Speaker 1: You know what, one of the great things at NewsBusters
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Speaker 1: paper in a limestone mind, and that's justified.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it is uh ridiculous. I mean, there was a
Speaker 12: question at the White House Press briefing this past week
Speaker 12: Caroline Levitt somebody from CBS, Jennifer Jacobs, who said, you know,
Speaker 12: are these things that you're pointing out and el Musk
Speaker 12: is talking about, are these really actually examples of waste,
Speaker 12: fraud and abuse or are these justa she don't like
Speaker 12: and Caroline was kind of shocked, but she had a
Speaker 12: great answer. She didn't completely flipped out. She just calmly said, well,
Speaker 12: if you want to stand up here and defense some
Speaker 12: of these things as worthwhile uses of the taxpayer dime,
Speaker 12: be my guest, because it's not gonna work. It's not
Speaker 12: gonna go well for you. You know, the government, even
Speaker 12: under the most lean circumstances, people support things like airtraffic controllers.
Speaker 12: People's the military paying our you know, veterans, providing them
Speaker 12: great care. But when it comes to these other things,
Speaker 12: Department of Education CFPB usaid, you know, there's this suck
Speaker 12: thinking that, oh no, it's just money for kids to
Speaker 12: have school lunches, or the CFPB is like the only
Speaker 12: thing standing in the way of protecting people from fraud.
Speaker 12: And it's like, what like, I mean, yes, we had
Speaker 12: like things were created, certain ages were created after the
Speaker 12: scandal of that scandal, but it's like America was the
Speaker 12: wild wild West until like the age of Barack Obama
Speaker 12: or Jimmy Carter before that is just insane.
Speaker 1: Curtis Hock, you have a great column up about the
Speaker 1: CBS Evening News used to be the gold standard. I
Speaker 1: can think of the days. Everyone in the CBS Evening
Speaker 1: News with Walter Cronkite, this is wonderful and unbeknownst to
Speaker 1: many people, Laura O'Donnell, who was the anchor for the
Speaker 1: last few years, had terrible ratings. Nobody watched, so they
Speaker 1: decided to go with a dual anchor system of John
Speaker 1: Dickerson and Maurice du Bois. They're up there telling us
Speaker 1: every day about the CBS Evening News, and they're comparing
Speaker 1: the Ukraine peace deal, which may or may not occur.
Speaker 1: I hope it does, to the nineteen thirty eight Adolf
Speaker 1: Hitler appeasement that somehow CBS nuve says that if there's
Speaker 1: peace in the Ukraine, it's similar to Chamberlain coming back
Speaker 1: with peace in our times, comparing the fight with Russia
Speaker 1: and Ukraine to Nazi Germany. Explain that one for us.
Speaker 12: Wow, this one is insane. You know, I'm a very
Speaker 12: pro Ukraine person. A lot of our guys in the
Speaker 12: office are, and it kind of leaves us out of
Speaker 12: step with a lot of folks on the right. But
Speaker 12: even this story last night got me like driving up
Speaker 12: a wall. Or jorgeven Ea bit the bullet and wrote
Speaker 12: it up for us. But you know, they proposed no alternatives.
Speaker 12: They just simply covetched and belliated about all the things
Speaker 12: that Donald Trump is doing or proposing in terms of Ukraine.
Speaker 12: To simply say that the war has to end. They're saying, oh,
Speaker 12: he's appeasing and giving in to Putin. They proposed no alternatives.
Speaker 12: And this is the thing the liberal media bill they
Speaker 12: love to complain and complain and complain about Republicans ill
Speaker 12: I don't like this. They're not doing nick rough, but
Speaker 12: they offer no alternatives in terms of like, okay, so
Speaker 12: what do you think you guys should do instead? And
Speaker 12: their guys have had four years to figure this out
Speaker 12: and they have to, you know, upset with the fact that,
Speaker 12: you know, Pete Heiksa simply said, hey, guys, going back
Speaker 12: to how things were before, like Russian invaded Crimea in
Speaker 12: eastern Ukraine in twenty fourteen, probably not going to happen
Speaker 12: like this. That was somehow some affront to humanity. And
Speaker 12: it's like it's called being realistic, guys.
Speaker 1: Well, another posting at NewsBusters dot org involves ABC News.
Speaker 1: You may not know it, but the view every East
Speaker 1: every day, eleven am Eastern time, is a product of
Speaker 1: ABC News. Peter Jennings will be rolling over in his
Speaker 1: grave and Sunny Houston, among the most leftering, ridiculous so
Speaker 1: called journalists in the world, claims that Trump is acting
Speaker 1: the Department of Education to create a permanent underclass that
Speaker 1: has gone in the billionaires, to have a permanent group
Speaker 1: of kids, especially in urban areas, they can't read and write. Well,
Speaker 1: what the hell's happening?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 1: What's going on as I speak, the permanent underclass? And
Speaker 1: they want to change in and empower the states to
Speaker 1: do a better job. But this article describes the status
Speaker 1: of public education today, which is the worst in the world.
Speaker 1: So if we try to fix it, then you want
Speaker 1: to create a permanent underclass.
Speaker 12: Yeah, hold on, Bill, I thought the leftising I thought
Speaker 12: it's the left that's trying to create a permanent on
Speaker 12: your class by keeping illegal immigrants in this country. But okay,
Speaker 12: well that's just yeah, yeah, because that's kind of what
Speaker 12: they're doing. But who will pick the cotton. They sound
Speaker 12: like pre Civil War Confederates out there, so for them
Speaker 12: to talk about a permanent end class is just rich
Speaker 12: with irony. You know, President Trump is absolutely right that
Speaker 12: we spend poodles of cash year after a year in suburban, urban,
Speaker 12: rural school districts that are struggling, and things aren't exactly improving.
Speaker 12: Things are not very good. And to put it mildly,
Speaker 12: so the solution maybe is not to throw more money
Speaker 12: at it, because that's really what the Department of Education
Speaker 12: has been in large parts. It has been redirecting money,
Speaker 12: giving out plots of money, and clearly things are not
Speaker 12: going well.
Speaker 3: We have a.
Speaker 12: Mental and psychological scourge in this country that is still
Speaker 12: revealing itself in the students who are still in school
Speaker 12: and going into adulthood who went through COVID in schools.
Speaker 12: My brother is a high school teacher, my dad is
Speaker 12: a SRO at another school back in Leicester, Pennsylvania, and
Speaker 12: they see this too, that certain age groups that we're
Speaker 12: going through, particularly already what would be challenging school years
Speaker 12: as they move up through school are just they just
Speaker 12: behave differently in a bad way compared to the other
Speaker 12: kids who are younger and did work going through school
Speaker 12: during COVID. And I just think, you know, something has
Speaker 12: to change, and President Trump is saying, let's change it.
Speaker 12: But for CNN to say that there's no solid Proof
Speaker 12: or ABC to say there's a permanent underclass being created
Speaker 12: is just doom casting.
Speaker 1: And you know, Curtis Halkumnewsbusters dot Org, Managing editor. One
Speaker 1: thing I've noticed it's that when fourth grade testing occurs,
Speaker 1: that there's a large disparity between whether a fourth grader
Speaker 1: can read or not. You kind of learn to read
Speaker 1: and then you read to learn, and the longer you're
Speaker 1: in many of these public schools in the cities, in
Speaker 1: the rural areas, by the eighth grade, it's going backwards.
Speaker 1: In other words, you would hope in the fourth grade
Speaker 1: there are many good governors. And in fact, George Bush
Speaker 1: forty three had this promise to read in the fourth
Speaker 1: grade requirement of doe. How did that work out? Not
Speaker 1: well at all. And so if you don't learn to read,
Speaker 1: you can't read to learn. And so the longer you're
Speaker 1: in school, the worse it gets. And so the solution
Speaker 1: is not to keep doing the same thing ninety two
Speaker 1: billion dollars a year spending Department of Education. Maybe take
Speaker 1: that might take forty billion centerto the states and say
Speaker 1: you at the local level, determine what to do because
Speaker 1: we have failed. There's some ridiculous number hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of DOE employees who spend ninety two billion dollars. And
Speaker 1: by the time these same kids in the fourth grade
Speaker 1: that they do poorly by the eighth grade is dismal.
Speaker 1: By the twelfth grade, you have diplomas that can't be
Speaker 1: read by a lot of the kids. In fact, eighty
Speaker 1: percent of eighty percent of eighth graders cannot read at
Speaker 1: the appropriate level. And if you don't learn to read,
Speaker 1: you can't read to learn. And instead of trying something different,
Speaker 1: they're attacking Donald Trump for saying education is a local matter.
Speaker 1: And I know you believe this curtis out, but I'll
Speaker 1: say it that it's up to parents. It's up to
Speaker 1: a good mom or a good dad. I had a
Speaker 1: great mom and a bad dad. But by the time
Speaker 1: I went to school as the first grader, I knew
Speaker 1: how to read, and by the time was a fourth grader,
Speaker 1: I was reading to learn other stuff. And so if
Speaker 1: you have terrible parents that don't get a four or
Speaker 1: five six year old ready for school, I say shut
Speaker 1: down the system and begin in the first grade. We're
Speaker 1: going to have a new sheriff in town, which means,
Speaker 1: guess what you're going to learn to read by the
Speaker 1: time you come to school. And if not, stop what
Speaker 1: we're doing, try something different, because the longer these kids
Speaker 1: are in school, the worse they get. Now that's the
Speaker 1: permanent underclass, would you agree.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 12: My brother teaches high school math, so it's a very
Speaker 12: similar issue. It's the other issue that's tested multiple times
Speaker 12: throughout the student's time in grade school, so he sees
Speaker 12: that as well. And my dad, actually, before he became
Speaker 12: an SRO, taught health and pe and middle school for
Speaker 12: twenty years and it was much the same thing, talking
Speaker 12: about parental involvement. I couldn't I can't tell you how
Speaker 12: many times still I heard my dad talk about that
Speaker 12: when he'd come home from school and he'd be sitting
Speaker 12: at the dinner table talking about issues involving parental involvement.
Speaker 12: That behavior stems from what's going on at home. Yet,
Speaker 12: teachers can change lives. My third grade teacher got me
Speaker 12: interested in politics and the presidency and that changed my life.
Speaker 12: But you also need parents, absolutely duty tango.
Speaker 1: Now, lastly, one of my bugaboos the last twenty or
Speaker 1: thirty years is public broadcasting, and that is five reasons
Speaker 1: to have funded I've not heard much yet from the
Speaker 1: Trumpster about defunding public broadcasting, which is terrible, and if
Speaker 1: you want to support it, I love all these fundraising
Speaker 1: drives in which the Beg's are brought back to life
Speaker 1: and they perform for you in condition that you send
Speaker 1: in one hundred and ten dollars to get a CD
Speaker 1: for whatever the hell that is of the Beg's. But
Speaker 1: explain one or two reasons why public broadcasting needs to
Speaker 1: be defunded immediately, if not sooner.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean this is actually insane. I mean the
Speaker 12: one that we hear a lot about about NewsBusters and
Speaker 12: you talk about a lot is just a bias obviously,
Speaker 12: just on the issue of transgender is we looked at
Speaker 12: seven months of the PBS news hower, they game over
Speaker 12: ninety percent more airtime of airtime to the left view
Speaker 12: about transgenderism. And when it comes to money, yes, I'm
Speaker 12: totally with you. If you want to support this, you should.
Speaker 12: In PBS has three hundred and forty five affiliates, which
Speaker 12: is insane when you consider ABC is two forty eight,
Speaker 12: CBS two fifty one, NBC two thirty five. On NPR
Speaker 12: there is one thousand and eighty five NPR affiliates the
Speaker 12: same of New York alone had seventy three. That is insane,
Speaker 12: you know, the two belt. Lastly, the equipment, they get
Speaker 12: the nicest equipment out there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 12: And the idea that like, oh, if you shut down
Speaker 12: the four NPR, one of the four NPR affiliates or
Speaker 12: three of them in a small town, people are still
Speaker 12: gonna get their news. Is not going to be the
Speaker 12: end of the world.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to say about transgender on the other side,
Speaker 1: which is the dam whage cause long term to sexually
Speaker 1: mutilate teenage boys and girls, to give them puberty blockers
Speaker 1: that changes them permanently. Britain did this long, extensive, twenty
Speaker 1: five year study that set over seventy percent of those
Speaker 1: who went through transgenderisms of one top hormones or surgery
Speaker 1: said in their thirties and forties, guess what we made
Speaker 1: A serious blunder, a serious mistake. There's loss to be
Speaker 1: said for that. We don't tell a fourteen year old
Speaker 1: that can drive a car, you can smoke a cigarette,
Speaker 1: you can't have a contract, you can't get married. But
Speaker 1: guess what with the doctor's permission and the hospital's permission
Speaker 1: and the parents' permission, you can sexually mutilate a fourteen
Speaker 1: or fifteen year old. That's absurd. But to consider that
Speaker 1: PBS right now is funded to the tune of five
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. To me, that's low hanging fruit. Because
Speaker 1: the other issue, Curtis House is somewhat duplicitous. I get
Speaker 1: the same information from the New York Times, I get
Speaker 1: it from CBS, NBC, ABC, I get it everywhere. Liberalism
Speaker 1: is you big and so it's not like giving us
Speaker 1: counter programming to the mainstream media. It is the mainstream
Speaker 1: media and we're paying for it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, WLW, your main station has, you know, is public airwaves, ACCBS, NBC.
Speaker 12: You can still get it with the old rabbit ears.
Speaker 11: See.
Speaker 12: The idea that you somehow need another one that is
Speaker 12: funded by the taxpayers is ludicrous at this.
Speaker 1: Point, Curtis Hauk once again, thank you for coming on
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And Curtis, you're a great American.
Speaker 12: You are a great American.
Speaker 3: Bill talk again soon.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more and if the
Speaker 1: line becomes available, and you know the routine. But PBS
Speaker 1: get the same information through numerous media outlets. But why
Speaker 1: do we pay for it directly? Is beyond me. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Grand American, live with you every Sunday night. Goody,
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Speaker 1: NewsBusters dot org out there, which records constantly every minute
Speaker 1: of every day, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and more, New
Speaker 1: York Times, Washington Post, and they put them all together
Speaker 1: for you. Now. One thing happened earlier today and yesterday
Speaker 1: was that there appears to be a CNN White House
Speaker 1: correspondent deleting a tweet supporting CEO killer Luigi Mangione's defense fund,
Speaker 1: that being Caitlin Collins. She is perceived to be the
Speaker 1: next superstar after the old Wolf Flitzer has finally retired,
Speaker 1: and along with Jake Tapper, and she had a tweet
Speaker 1: up under her CNN moniker in which she had listed
Speaker 1: a fund to raise money for Luigi MAGGIONI. You might
Speaker 1: know that on onor about December the fourth, about what
Speaker 1: about three months ago, Brian Thompson, a father of three
Speaker 1: and the CEO of Not at Health, was walking to
Speaker 1: Manhattan to an early morning meeting at a big time
Speaker 1: hotel in Manhattan and Luigi MAGGIONEI stalked him and killed
Speaker 1: him in cold blood. It was like a political assassination,
Speaker 1: killing someone for their beliefs, for their job. And it
Speaker 1: appears that CNN's Caitlin Collins listed on her ex account
Speaker 1: the Defense Fund, which believe it or not, has raised
Speaker 1: about a half a million dollars so far to defend
Speaker 1: this murderer committing murder on video, a murder which is
Speaker 1: captured on video, and it was predicted and it was
Speaker 1: talked about in the mainstream media as an excuse. I
Speaker 1: don't buy it at all, but let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: Coming up next will be the status of American education
Speaker 1: with doctor Suzanne Barcher's and It's not good Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: The Great American with you every Sunday Night by Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: The Great American. And one of the items on the
Speaker 1: chopping block. And the Trump administration is taking about the
Speaker 1: ninety billion dollars out of the US Department of Education,
Speaker 1: not to jump into the ocean, to have the state
Speaker 1: departments of Education and Minister of the money. And many
Speaker 1: people find that attractive. I watched this morning one of
Speaker 1: the cable shows with Ranny Weingardner, who's the head of
Speaker 1: the Teachers Union. She hates this. She doesn't like the
Speaker 1: idea of taking power away from Washington and returning into
Speaker 1: the States. And Doctor Suzanne Barchers is the editor in
Speaker 1: chief of and Vice president of the leap Frog. She's
Speaker 1: authored more than fifty books, ranging from college textbooks to short,
Speaker 1: decotable children's books to readers in Theater books. She served
Speaker 1: as a public school teacher. She has an affiliate faculty
Speaker 1: position at the University of Colorado in Denver, etc. And
Speaker 1: Doctor Barchers, you appear to be an expert on this,
Speaker 1: So first of all, let me ask you this, what
Speaker 1: is the current state of American public education?
Speaker 13: Well, princellant me correct the background. I'm no longer at
Speaker 13: leap Frog, and I'm the chair of the Advisory Educational
Speaker 13: Committee for Lingo Kids in Madrid, which is a literacy
Speaker 13: app But to your point, we have a very complex
Speaker 13: situation with the state of reading, and I think there
Speaker 13: are several things that have contributed to that. First, we
Speaker 13: have such a diverse population, and I think there's some
Speaker 13: meriag in returning the funding back to the states, because
Speaker 13: if you compare a state like Wyoming to a states
Speaker 13: such as California, they have different challenges and different needs
Speaker 13: for their children.
Speaker 1: And let's face it, I've always believed that you learn
Speaker 1: to read and then you read to learn, and if
Speaker 1: you don't learn to read by the fourth or fifth grade,
Speaker 1: that's a big problem. Most of may I say my
Speaker 1: generation went to school able to read because parents took
Speaker 1: the time to sit down ahead of time and get
Speaker 1: the kid ready to learn, and so by the eighth grade,
Speaker 1: please it.
Speaker 13: I was going to say, that's very true. The ones
Speaker 13: A little nuance I would put on that is that
Speaker 13: when children are learning to read, they're also reading to
Speaker 13: learn because they're building skills that serve them well throughout
Speaker 13: their lifetime. And depending on the books that they're reading
Speaker 13: and the kind of books that were when we were young,
Speaker 13: we were learning how to look at the illustrations and
Speaker 13: interpret that. And it's very true that parents these days,
Speaker 13: because of financial concerns or their jobs, or maybe they
Speaker 13: are single parents, they may not have that time to
Speaker 13: sit down and read aloud to the children.
Speaker 7: And Knight and I don't know what you.
Speaker 13: Were raised on, but I've been ticking around for a
Speaker 13: long time, so I was raised on that. Dick and
Speaker 13: Jane and what we've found over the years, is that
Speaker 13: the theories keep changing. We go from a strict phonics
Speaker 13: program to a more literature base. And from my teaching
Speaker 13: working with classrooms or media readers, is that one size
Speaker 13: fits few. You need a lot of tricks in your pocket,
Speaker 13: a lot of strategies to help the readers, because one
Speaker 13: may work really well with phonics and another not. And
Speaker 13: our districts are oftome looking for that silver bullet that's
Speaker 13: going to teach all the kids, and that's just unrealistic.
Speaker 1: And more and more students are going to more and
Speaker 1: more public schools fewer and fewer. I can't imagine being
Speaker 1: a school teacher in Milwaukee or Chicago, or Los Angeles
Speaker 1: or Cincinnati. I can't imagine what they go through. According
Speaker 1: to their statistics, and Cincinnati, I'm familiar with it, and
Speaker 1: I think around the country is probably pretty close. About
Speaker 1: forty five percent of public school kids in Cincinnati are
Speaker 1: chronically absent. And if you go to the category of
Speaker 1: black boys that are chronically absent, it's about seventy one
Speaker 1: percent or chronically absent, and so on.
Speaker 7: Whom do you situation?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.
Speaker 13: I don't think there's any one answer to that question
Speaker 13: as far as blame responsibility. I think teachers in general
Speaker 13: are very dedicated and they're searching for the answers. I
Speaker 13: think the administrations are also very dedicrated and they're looking
Speaker 13: for that. But let's say we have our population in
Speaker 13: Chicago and compare that to a country that has a
Speaker 13: very homogeneous group of children coming through.
Speaker 7: Such as Norway or Sweden.
Speaker 13: We just have such a complex situation here, not only absenteeism,
Speaker 13: but we have children who have not had breakfast before
Speaker 13: they come to school, they not had been enriched cultures.
Speaker 13: A school could have up to fifty or more individual
Speaker 13: native languagees coming in, and that's far tougher than when
Speaker 13: I was teaching, and we didn't have nearly the diverse
Speaker 13: number of languages and the needs to serve so many children.
Speaker 13: And that's what we're in the business for, is to
Speaker 13: serve those kids. So certainly financial resources are important.
Speaker 1: Spending more money doctor Suzanne Barcher's we spend more on
Speaker 1: public education than any advanced country in the world, and
Speaker 1: we have less results. We've identified some of the problems
Speaker 1: the solutions. Because I know the teachers administrators are well intended.
Speaker 1: They get in for the best and the right reasons.
Speaker 1: After about ten years, many teachers simply can't take it
Speaker 1: anymore because of behavior. And I know in Cincinnati there's
Speaker 1: about thirty different languages spoken, and allegedly you have to
Speaker 1: get you have to get a translator for each of
Speaker 1: the dialects of their languages, otherwise it's worthless. I could
Speaker 1: not imagine being in a Japanese classroom when I was
Speaker 1: ten years old and have the teacher only speaking Japanese
Speaker 1: and I could learn anything. And so you have almost
Speaker 1: insurmountable problems, and I'm thinking it's not going to get better.
Speaker 1: We still spend I know Washington, d c. Is about
Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars per student, the city of Cincinnati is
Speaker 1: about twenty city of Chicago is about thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: per student, and the results are terrible. And so do
Speaker 1: you have definable solutions that would turn this around?
Speaker 7: I wish I did.
Speaker 13: I do think that. I think more emphasis on those
Speaker 13: first years of a child's life is really important. And
Speaker 13: I think as much as possible, educating the parents to
Speaker 13: do the best they can, and of course they all
Speaker 13: want success for their children, but giving them guidance on
Speaker 13: in learning experiences for children. I think there are advantages
Speaker 13: to having apps that kids can use that are educational
Speaker 13: and support literacy, particularly children who are on the autism spectrum.
Speaker 13: And I think when we guide parents do judicious use
Speaker 13: of screen time, that really helps the children. That's one
Speaker 13: small piece of the puzzle. I do think reading aloud
Speaker 13: to young children is very very important. Having them cook
Speaker 13: with you at home, using all kinds of chores and
Speaker 13: routine experiences to reinforce learning skills so that when they
Speaker 13: come into kindergarten in first grade, they have a bit
Speaker 13: of a leg up on the kinds of expectations that
Speaker 13: are there. And one of the things that's been a
Speaker 13: problem historically is, as I said, we're always looking for
Speaker 13: that silver bullet. Theories of the right reading program or
Speaker 13: the right mass program changed periodically, and so everybody's shifts
Speaker 13: to that new program, and then they find that some
Speaker 13: children are being left behind. So the pendulum swings, and
Speaker 13: you just got to get out of the way of
Speaker 13: the pendulum so you don't get clobbered in the process.
Speaker 1: And doctor Barcher's I believe that a good mom or
Speaker 1: a good dad. I had a good mom, had a
Speaker 1: terrible dad, but that's a different issue. At least one
Speaker 1: good parent is the first teacher, the last teacher, and
Speaker 1: the best teacher you're ever going to have. And so
Speaker 1: when I came up through the ranks in the Catholic
Speaker 1: school system, there were forty kids in a classroom with
Speaker 1: one teacher, and the behavioral norms were followed. Otherwise you
Speaker 1: got whacked and there was education. And if I didn't
Speaker 1: couldn't read by the third grade, something was wrong. And
Speaker 1: now I know presidents like George Bush forty three spent
Speaker 1: billions of dollars on guaranteed reading by the fourth grade.
Speaker 1: That failed. Miserable because so many parents in the public
Speaker 1: schools in rural America are not invested in their child's education.
Speaker 1: They know from the first get go. And I thought,
Speaker 1: at one point, doctor, and you may get your view
Speaker 1: on this, for the public school system to begin in
Speaker 1: the first grade, with the first time a first grader
Speaker 1: comes to class the first time, and have sit downs
Speaker 1: with the parents or guardians involved with the expectations. They're
Speaker 1: going to be high. You're going to bring the kid
Speaker 1: to school with a cereal, You're going to work with
Speaker 1: the kid when the kid comes in the first day
Speaker 1: of school with the homework sit down. I know, Penny
Speaker 1: and I sat down with our son regularly from Saint
Speaker 1: Gertrude to Madeira High School, and we made sure he
Speaker 1: did his homework and we helped him a little bit,
Speaker 1: but essentially he had to learn. And so so many
Speaker 1: children today are in completely dysfunctional families and the mother
Speaker 1: or the father or the guardian doesn't do that sit
Speaker 1: down every day, but almost to say, okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to begin with the first grade, the first day of class.
Speaker 1: These are the expectations as a parent, because the parents
Speaker 1: is the first, the last, and the best teacher the
Speaker 1: kid would ever have. Does that make any sense?
Speaker 13: Absolutely, And for most children who do thrive, it's because
Speaker 13: someone valued education and took the time. I homeschooled two
Speaker 13: of my grandchildren during COVID, so I went from being
Speaker 13: a retired educator who could do a little consulting and
Speaker 13: do lots of traveling to someone who was housebound like
Speaker 13: the rest of us. And it was a humbling experience
Speaker 13: for me to be teaching again, and yet such an
Speaker 13: enriching experience because it really gave me a chance to
Speaker 13: delve in almost like a little one run schoolhouse where
Speaker 13: I just had two children, but they were five years
Speaker 13: apart in age, and I had to really think about
Speaker 13: how to meet their needs. So if you have that
Speaker 13: one parent or grandparent or older sibling or anybody, if
Speaker 13: the public could step in too and realize that they
Speaker 13: could be an advocate for a child who needs help,
Speaker 13: that would be a big step. And we have that
Speaker 13: with the Big Brother Big Sister program, which is not
Speaker 13: educationally oriented. It's you know, in full but if we
Speaker 13: had more volunteer opportunities for that one on one experience.
Speaker 13: So we're not remdiating that's important too, but we're advocating
Speaker 13: from the very early age that the learning is important
Speaker 13: and it's worthwhile. It would make a huge difference.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 1: I imagine being in an environment like in Chicago or
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, who you have a completely dysfunctional family. The
Speaker 1: mother or father doesn't require you to go to school.
Speaker 1: You're chronically absent, you're running in the streets. Two thirds
Speaker 1: of these kids as eighth graders, two thirds, about seventy
Speaker 1: percent cannot read at the appropriate level. They have no
Speaker 1: chance of getting on to college or trade school until
Speaker 1: some I don't know, some bell goes off in their
Speaker 1: brain and I'm thinking spending more money on that kid
Speaker 1: is not going to have a measurable impact. If you
Speaker 1: can reach a few kids one to one, mono imano
Speaker 1: is the way to get it done. But I think
Speaker 1: failing is an important thing too. In public schools today,
Speaker 1: you can't fail. You cannot show up, not take the test,
Speaker 1: have fs across the board, and I don't think they
Speaker 1: even use that grading system anymore, and they promote you
Speaker 1: to the next grade. I had many teachers tell me
Speaker 1: that I have a fourteen year old who's come in
Speaker 1: from Guatemala and he has no language skills, has no
Speaker 1: educational foundation. What grade do we put him in when
Speaker 1: he doesn't speak English? It's like, well, what do you
Speaker 1: do in that situation? Doctor Barcher's What does any urban
Speaker 1: school district do when they have hundreds or thousands of
Speaker 1: students who show up to be educated, not learning the language,
Speaker 1: and they have no educational foundation. What do you do
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 13: Well, I would go back to what I was just
Speaker 13: discussing in seeing if you can't somehow enlist the public
Speaker 13: support people as they age. All the boomers are getting
Speaker 13: up there, they're not going to want to increase their
Speaker 13: tax Dell but I do think if someone asked, I'm
Speaker 13: a perfect example of that. If Denver Public Schools said
Speaker 13: we need some people who will devote two or three
Speaker 13: hours a week or one hour Monday, Wednesday Friday to help,
Speaker 13: I add an individual at a local school. I need
Speaker 13: the first to sign up. But you know, we have
Speaker 13: to be asked. There's lots of us out there who
Speaker 13: want to help, and I think that might be a
Speaker 13: tip I would pass on to the public at large,
Speaker 13: is asked, ask for that help, for that volunteer help.
Speaker 1: Doctor Susanne Barcher's, we have identified many problems, not many
Speaker 1: solutions other than individuals one on one getting involved one
Speaker 1: on one first grade beginning at that teachers, student and
Speaker 1: the parents got to be on the same page. Number two,
Speaker 1: you got it can't be chronically absent. You can't fail
Speaker 1: to go to school and then learn. And number three,
Speaker 1: it's got to be consequences and returning money to the States. Well,
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense to me. But thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and doctor Suzanne Barcher's.
Speaker 1: Good luck and I love your ideas, so we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can implement some of them. And thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 7: Doctor, Thank you, thank you, great conversation.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more Bill to Cunningham.
Speaker 1: First of all, thank you very much for listening tonight.
Speaker 1: In many parts of our great nation, it is a
Speaker 1: literal refrigerator. What's happening weatherwise has been awful. How someone
Speaker 1: can continue to maintain that there's man made global warming
Speaker 1: causing climate change? The climate change is cold. And if
Speaker 1: you had my if you were worth about an hour
Speaker 1: a half ago, I had a guest on, Steve Malloy
Speaker 1: of junks science dot com laid out repeatedly all the mistakes,
Speaker 1: all the mistakes that the predictors have made the past
Speaker 1: fifteen to thirty years about what's going to happen, including
Speaker 1: thirty years ago the climatologists told you and I that
Speaker 1: children in twenty twenty five would not see snow. That
Speaker 1: wouldn't exist anymore. Global warming warning would be so bad
Speaker 1: that snow would not exist. Many of us wish that
Speaker 1: was the case tonight. But also it was so great
Speaker 1: to watch Jade Vance a few days ago in the
Speaker 1: Munich Security Conference lay out the difficulties, shall we say,
Speaker 1: in Europe as we speak, which are very similar to
Speaker 1: exactly the same difficulties we have here in America today.
Speaker 1: And it's sick and it's sad what's going on, and
Speaker 1: it's not good. In fact, it's bad. In America, we
Speaker 1: have thought police, we had them until Trump got elected.
Speaker 1: In America, we were following racial discrimination called DEI. In America,
Speaker 1: there were grandmothers arrested outside of a border and clinics
Speaker 1: put in prison. And in America we had unbridled immigration
Speaker 1: which is wrecking the body politic all across this great
Speaker 1: country of ours, which is exactly what's going on, shall
Speaker 1: we say, exactly what's going on in Europe. And that's
Speaker 1: what Jada Evans called him out on. Because Germany has
Speaker 1: speech coach. You may have seen sixty minutes tonight. There
Speaker 1: were two segments. The first segment, of course, attacked Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and the second segment dealt with speech codes in Germany
Speaker 1: because they don't have the freedom of speech. In Germany,
Speaker 1: there's no First Amendment. The police can knock on your
Speaker 1: door at six o'clock in the morning. And if you
Speaker 1: went online calling somebody fat and lazy, or went online
Speaker 1: and republished some cartoon, or went online and criticize some
Speaker 1: person because of their nationality. You could be arrested and
Speaker 1: thrown in jail or find up to ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: ten thousand Deutsche marks. And that's not the way things
Speaker 1: ought to be in this country. But America on November
Speaker 1: the fifth, one for a different and a better path,
Speaker 1: we said, no, we're not going to go down Affirmative Act.
Speaker 1: We're not going to go down reparations. We're not going
Speaker 1: to go down DEI. We believe in the meritocracy. The
Speaker 1: NBA All Star Game took place, and all the organizations
Speaker 1: and the NBA believe in DEI except when it comes
Speaker 1: to the court. There they believe in merit and I
Speaker 1: support that one thousand percent. So also, I want to
Speaker 1: thank Steve molloy if Junk science dot com for coming
Speaker 1: on to talk about all the lies, misconceptions and distortions
Speaker 1: caused by the Green New Deal and the fact the
Speaker 1: Green New Deal has cost us literally trillions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Before you go to bed to night, it's getting late,
Speaker 1: I know, but I'd ask you to say a silent
Speaker 1: prayer for Donald Trump and for Elon Musk that they
Speaker 1: can be successful in what they're doing to change this
Speaker 1: country for the better and God knows that it needs
Speaker 1: to be changed for the better in this great country.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and once again, may you and yours
Speaker 1: have a great week. Let's hit get together next Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Bill cunning and the Great American with you and all
Speaker 1: of the great Americans every Sunday night.