Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody, Welcome back to what possibly could be
the very last episode ever.
Speaker 2: Challenge. Sitting over at his house being Banana's best boy.
Speaker 3: Is big Uncle Sweet TJ.
Speaker 2: And sitting at her house with the biggest bruise on
her ass that she showed off before the pre show
got a big eye full of it.
Speaker 4: Is Carlin san Diego at.
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Speaker 4: Who knows this is our last episode.
Speaker 2: Ever, depends of what the Challenge gods have in store
for us.
Speaker 4: Yeah that, or you know, if we have a lot
of people clamoring for Survivored or what I'm just going to.
Speaker 2: Point out on chat. Your good buddy Wolfy came up
with like three ideas to keep this show going, and
they all got poop pooed by the other.
Speaker 5: Two up there, So just poopoo anything. I did not
poop poo an idea said poo.
Speaker 2: Tim said, if forty two gets canceled, we're just gonna
put it to bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Carolyn was like losted no thumbs down emoji.
Speaker 4: I did not say thumbs down an emoji. I just
said hand to head emoji face palm. Whatever I told,
I did say that I would do the even though
I've never watched Survivor, I would do season fifty of
Survivor because I think that could be kind of fun,
just because I like, I have no idea who any
of these people are.
Speaker 5: And the timing should be good because I saw on
I think during the episode Survive fifty starts in February,
so we will know in February if forty two is renewed.
If it is, Survivor fifty might be a good way
to kill a couple months while we wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean at the very least we will
be taking off at least the next month because holidays
and all of that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which, we will be pausing the Patreon, so there's
no need to jump off the Patreon until we send
out a decision one way or another how the challenge goes.
Speaker 5: But if forty two is coming, I'm I'm going to
keep doing in this podcast. I can't quit now because
I think every season I think is gonna be the
last season. I feel like such a fucking asshole. If
I stopped doing it, then they just did one more season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's just I
got to keep holding on.
Speaker 4: I mean, in all honesty, i'd miss you guys. I said,
this wuld be a text.
Speaker 3: I've gotten very used.
Speaker 4: I was talking to my mom about this afternoon. I've
gotten very used to being able to talk to you
guys like once a week and catching off and seeing
each other. It's like thing by each other's lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I do, but I didn't get
to see you every week.
Speaker 2: Lost Duardo says forty two and All Stars six is happening.
Shorter filming time has been confirmed by all spoiler.
Speaker 4: I've seen this saying if EDWARDO ever wins any of
the fantasy leagues, he spoils himself.
Speaker 3: Cool. I just don't believe.
Speaker 5: I just don't believe that these people know anything, you
know what I mean, Like even the producers and stuff.
I think the owners can come at any time and
just say like no, I guess we'll say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to keep an eye out.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Who is breaking down Part one?
Speaker 4: Well, I took notes for both of them because I
was out two weeks ago, and then we didn't do
anything for last week because last week was part one
of the finale, and there's no point in doing anything
for that, so we're just gonna do them both tonight.
It might be an extra long episode. We'll see. Are
we watching both episodes on.
Speaker 3: Going? I got them going?
Speaker 4: Yeah, both of them are just the one. Okay, all right,
Well we kick off and we don't even go back
to the house. We just go straight into everybody sitting
in a bus. There's lots of talking heads and whatnot,
and the bus drops them off in the middle of nowhere.
There's no TJ, there is no setup. They are just
on the side of a dirt road in the middle
of nowhere, and everybody's looking around like what the fuck
is going on?
Speaker 5: And added nothing to me. I don't know why they
did this.
Speaker 3: This is stupid.
Speaker 4: I don't know why they did this either. Be like,
look at the helicopter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not impressed.
Speaker 4: They have two helicopters come and pick everybody up and
fly them away. So just to refresh everyone's memories, the
teams in the final are Olivia and Jeremy, Theo and Adrian,
Sydney and Turbo and Cedric and Mikayla and the money
that they are competing for place gets twenty five thousand
dollars to split, second place gets fifty thousand dollars to split,
and first place gets four hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars to split.
Speaker 3: Crazy low, right, crazy low.
Speaker 4: Like being that they've had a few challenges where it's
been a million bucks, yeah together, this is only half
a million, like, yeah, crazy low.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Turbo himself had won seven hundred and fifty thousand
on his one season and now.
Speaker 4: He'd be and that was seven years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now he's.
Speaker 5: Battling for half of four hundred and twenty five, which
is it's weird.
Speaker 4: It is, it's very strange. Hmmm. I don't understand the
thought behind it. Budget, if anything, if anything else, that
right there kind of proves like we're trying to phase
this show out because like survived, don't you get like
a million bucks on Big Brother and Survivor?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even that, like Survivor was a million bucks
twenty years ago, it's still a million bucks.
Speaker 3: But if you're a million, yes.
Speaker 4: It's but they also, I mean it's not like the
Survivors not the same people coming back every year. It's
new people every year. So I mean for inflation, they
should still have changed it. But yeah, yeah, I mean
if you just compare it to like the two other
massive reality competition shows like this is nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of weird how low the price pot
is and you think bumping up at half a million, Like,
I don't know what the budget is for this show,
but half.
Speaker 3: A million seems.
Speaker 4: Low, you know what I mean between six people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean adding another half million to the
prize pot seems like not big of a deal if
you're producing a show that's I don't have any idea
what this show cost fifteen million.
Speaker 3: I have no idea what this things could cost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean maybe don't put them up in such
an expensive house, or like don't do all the pyrotechnics,
or like cut the cost somewhere else where you don't
actually need to be putting it like the pyrotechnics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris brought up Big Brother two years ago, went
up to seven hundred and fifty thousand from five hundred.
Speaker 4: Thousand, and they're just living in a house. Right. It's
just like the fact that you're competitions.
Speaker 2: There's competitions and stuff, but.
Speaker 4: It's not it's not like super grueling ones like what
you're doing in the challenge.
Speaker 2: Right, it's family like endurance ones like who can stand
against this billboard for you know as it tilts.
Speaker 4: Like forward and gotcha. So it's more it's more carnival
style in comparison to Challenge games. Yeah, so I mean
it's wild just to be living in a house that's
that has cameras on it twenty four to seven and
Carnival games you're getting seven hundred and fifty dollars. So yeah,
but you know it's it's bizarre.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris is the Big Brothers Challenge is the isolation
for three straight months.
Speaker 4: So then yeah, three months is a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's the only people you could talk to with
the producers or the people in the house and that
is it.
Speaker 4: Oh you don't even get like phone calls out of
the house. Oh yeah, that would be weird.
Speaker 2: Like there are some of the prizes are you get
letters from home and stuff, and that's like you see
people like breakdown and start bawling because they haven't heard
from anybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would definitely be rough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, worth it for seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're not climbing a mountain or whatever.
So all right, uh so yeah, they get picked up
by a helicopters and that takes them further into the mountains.
They touched down and TJ gives them the breakdown of
the money and tells them that the final is a race,
which it always do is it's you know, you go
from point A to point B and there are checkpoints
along the way, and in this race you have to
collect the keys, which I thought this was going to
be like a bigger like, oh, someone forgot a key
and had to turn around and go back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he kept saying a couple of keys. Yeah,
he'd even remind him.
Speaker 4: Like, hey, you forgot your keys, to remind them and
then come back.
Speaker 5: Right, That's been such a part of finals for a
long time that, Yeah, it's a little weird that TJ
was saying there reminding.
Speaker 4: Them, yeah, which like this, this will kind of come
in in day two, so yeah, it just it's weird
to me that he reminded them on that, but it yeah,
it didn't factor in on day two. Yeah, So they
all have to collect keys at each checkpoint and carry
them with them and then there will be a chest
at the top of the mountain at the end of
the race and whichever team gets there first and puts
all their keys in there and opens it wins.
Speaker 5: Yes, we love top of the mountain open a chest
right like this is yes, quint essential challenge.
Speaker 4: No, like, oh, well, you know we tallied everybody's times.
Speaker 2: We we love that idea, but I maybe have some
quibbles by the time that's same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4: I'm sure we will have similar ones.
Speaker 5: But at least it was a foot race to the
top of a mountain, which I fucking love it. Every
time we have these foot races at the top of
a mountain, they're my favorite finals every time.
Speaker 4: Ye foot race the top of the mountain is one
of my favorites.
Speaker 3: But just needed an eating competition on the mountains.
Speaker 4: I didn't even I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was no eating challenge in this great final.
Speaker 4: They were even they they had backpacks with bananas and
and trail mix and all kinds of things. We didn't
see them eat other than like, hey, you're allowed to
have these things. Here are the things who helped fuel you.
Oh that's a that's annoying.
Speaker 3: Real bummer. Needed to see some puking this episode.
Speaker 4: There's a challenge unless there's an eating challenge in it
or not.
Speaker 5: An eating challenge part of this episode, yep.
Speaker 4: And so the other the other kind of key thing
is TJ tells them that they will be tethered to
their partner the entire race. I kind of liked this.
I did to because, like, we've definitely seen some of
these challenges with partners where one partner is way far
above or way far farther than the other partner and
is sitting there like Wes and Casey come to mind,
West is screaming at Casey because one hundred feet behind him,
or even the team challenges where you've got like, was
that the seasons where Frank and Zach are screaming at
Sam and she's.
Speaker 3: Like down the hill?
Speaker 4: And yeah, I just I like the ones where it's
like you have to stay within six feet of your
partner and this is a really easy way to do.
And they didn't like actually tether them. They just had
a rope they each had to hold on to.
Speaker 3: I thought it was really cool.
Speaker 5: And yeah, we saw them go side by side, we
saw each pulled each other at different times.
Speaker 3: Yep. See, I thought that upe was pretty cool. Cool addition, yep.
Speaker 4: It did look like to spoilers a little. It looked
like a little bit on the second day when they
were going up the parts of the of the mountain
where you had to more scramble than anything else, they
were allowed to let go of that and one would
care as long as they were near each other. I
noticed that a few times. But yeah, So they start
to the race off with a kayak down a river
and the kayak these are these blow up kayaks going
down this river that is glacial melt or snow melt,
so it is freezing and looked Yeah, it looked. It
looked so cold. This part looked like fun to me.
I don't like the fact that they were blow up kayaks,
but I mean I liked the river kayak.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: TJ told them that they had to there were random
totems on the way, like on the way down the river,
and they needed to remember what the totems were in
the order that they were in and that that might
come into into play later on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is kind of cool. I like these. It
was a weird little distraction things.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like them too, because they it wasn't like
really obvious ones where it's like a bright orange totem
pole with like these very specific symbols on it. He
was like, you could very easily miss some of these,
like oh, that's just a pile of stones. Oh that's
just like a deer's head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd really easy.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed those.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So in the endiad to put him in in order
in the you know, in the way you saw them, right, yes,
you order which you saw them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have fake ones in with the real ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I love that too, because Turbo was the
one that was just sort of like, I'm useless here.
I don't know what these words mean. And you see
them with words like thrown. What's thrown mean? In cities
like it's a chair.
Speaker 4: Which what's a witch? And Sydney goes.
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, which one's circle? Which one's the circle?
Speaker 2: What what is? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, poor Sydney, Like she was being very patient with
him during.
Speaker 3: This struggling sympathy two episodes. Yes I do.
Speaker 4: I also heard the timeshere her attitude annoyed me, but
I had a lot of sympathy for her in these
two episodes as well. I also had a lot of
sympathy for Adrian tell yeah, we have the only surprisingly
the only team that capsized was Cedric and Michayla, and
it was almost at the very end it's like, ooh,
some cold water to be capsized again. But for the
most part, everybody made it down just fine. Yep they yeah,
oh so I was thinking about this. So when they
were putting the all of the answers together. Part of
the key of that is the for every wrong answer
they only got to call check once, and for all
every wrong answer they had a two minute penalty before
they could continue on to the next checkpoint. It almost
to me almost felt like it would be in your
to your benefit to like go there, do a very
quick like I'm talking you get like thirty second, not
even thirty seconds, five seconds to look at each thing
and be like that one, this one, this one, this one,
this one, just like put them up real quick and
then go like just see is this and that. Way
you're not spending five minutes trying to figure out what
the order is. You just kind of go with your
gut on the initial you know, one minute to try
and figure out what it is and then potentially take
a penalty.
Speaker 2: MM.
Speaker 4: Because most of them, even who was it, THEO and
Adrian were the first ones down and Sydney and Turbo
left like many minutes before they did. Everybody got a
little bit wrong. But I don't know, what do you
guys think.
Speaker 5: I didn't pay attention to how long they spent at
the puzzle. I guess that's a good point that I
hadn't thought about. But yeah, I mean you have to
weigh that out. I guess if it's two minutes per
item maximum, then you can't spend more than whatever, twelve
minutes on this puzzle or it's useless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you just gotta throw some shit up.
Speaker 4: So it only came to me when I watched it
back the second time today.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, thought I didn't think about that. Yes, I
don't know.
Speaker 4: I like I in the moment, I probably wouldn't have
done it that way, But thinking back on or like
watching it today, it made me think, I wonder if
that would be any benefit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you write down who got what wrong? They
all got like between two and three wrong.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, everybody got two. It was either they got
two wrong or one team got four wrong, four wrong.
I think that was Sydney and Turbo got four wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh wow really.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah? They uh the uh they have a hike between
checkpoint one and checkpoint two when they Turbo's having a lot.
He's already like from the beginning, was having trouble with cramping.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he struggles with cold and I think we learned
from this he struggles with the high altitude stuff too.
So he's like, he's really struggling man.
Speaker 4: And we saw him in his in the season that
he won, in his very first season, we saw him
cramp up. He got a Charlie horse in the middle
of that race. So it seems like he has troubles
with cramping as well, like doesn't eat enough potassium or
water or I don't know something. Yeah, so he was.
He was complaining very early on about cramping up, and
I appreciated how he was trying to describe in English
how things were hurting, because she was like, are you hurt.
He goes, yes, it's pulling, it hurts, it's cramping, just
the way that he was saying, and it was just
like pulling cramp. But he didn't have any of the
the little descript It just cracked me up. Made me laugh.
Speaker 2: Christmas Turbot, he's a stop stomping bananas and started eating them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Olivia is already having some trouble trying to keep
up with Jeremy, which I mean fair. Jeremy is an
ultra marathoner and Olivia is not, as she says, she
is a mall walker, not a ultra marathoner.
Speaker 5: She's sticking with him. Jarmy is being extremely encouraging. He's
like he is exactly the partner that Olivia needs.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was fantastic. He definitely he was able
to push her without like making her upset, yeah, or
without him getting upset like it was. It was impressive
to watch him. Like, Yeah, guys on the challenge take note.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean like Will right, Will was partnered
with her most of the season, and she was a
terrible partner for him. Yeah, but I think that's because
he got her like fucking all worked up and ship
and so she.
Speaker 3: Just did and every challenge.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Jeamy does have a way about him that
like encourages her without making her feel bad. And you know,
it does seem like it whatever whatever Yearmy's doing, what works,
it motivates Olivia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it was impressive to see how well they
work together. U Mikayla, Goddamn that girl. She almost immediately on.
Speaker 3: This run so hot though she is just hot.
Speaker 4: But she like she rolled her ankle at least three
times in these two days, Like heavily rolled her ankle.
Speaker 5: I really hope they talk about this at the reunion
or something. It's kind of fucked up that she's spent
all season rolling her ankle on nothing like just walking,
just walking, and.
Speaker 3: Like walking across the field and walking up the thing.
Speaker 2: How does how is that?
Speaker 5: I'm like borderline making fun of Mikayla. What is up
with your fucking ankle, dude?
Speaker 4: Like that's not a normal I was walking back from
lunch today with a girlfriend and rolled my ankle. Sometimes
you just have a weak ankle, Like my my right
ankle is is a little bit weaker, and it's I
if I just catch the edge of my foot just
slightly wrong, then it'll it'll go. I can usually continue
to walk it off, but like it's not a crazy one,
but I roll it pretty often.
Speaker 2: I've done it on the pavement walking Margaret through my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, I don't think. I don't. I can't say
if I would I have done that. Maybe I have powerful ankles.
Speaker 5: It's my super baby her very strong ankles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is your kryptonite plane.
Speaker 3: Fancy. Yeah, that's like bottom of the foot.
Speaker 4: Oh, Swanny you in a while? Uh, Swanny said that
Michaela said that she had two torn ligaments. Is that
because she rolled her ankle? Tice, Swannie, give us more
more details, explain a little bit.
Speaker 5: Did she tear her ligaments before the show and that's
why she keeps she can't support her or did.
Speaker 4: She tear her ligaments while rolling them and that happens.
Speaker 2: Just got loose ankles, Tim.
Speaker 3: Michayla mcac from Fucking Wizard lose strong ankles.
Speaker 4: Apparently that's all she said. She went to the doctor
as soon as she got back home. So that sucks.
Speaker 5: It's weird because I don't think she's like, I'm not
saying she's faking. That's not the point of this.
Speaker 4: But sometimes it shows her a full Anissa, but she
was complaining about it for most of the season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But like sometimes it shows her running and it's
like she looks fine. It doesn't look like it's bothering her,
it doesn't look painful, she looks totally fine. But then
when she's like wrapping it, it does look swollen, and
it looks painful and it's hard to like totally figure
out what's happening.
Speaker 3: Here, you know.
Speaker 2: Chris points out, once you start rolling your ankle, it's
so easy to keep doing it.
Speaker 4: If you're not doing exercises to try and strengthen your ankles,
which there are, then it's it is a lot easier
to continue.
Speaker 2: Is going to start doing. He's like, I'm gonna have
the strongest.
Speaker 4: Along super wrinkle.
Speaker 5: Of course, of course, veins popping out of my ankles
and ship, it's gonna be awesome to just wait.
Speaker 4: Goodness, this is when we first start seeing THEO on
day one. Start to gas the fuck out.
Speaker 3: He looks rough.
Speaker 4: Honestly, any goodwill that he had in my mind over
the course of the last few episodes, really funny confessionals
or anything like that, all of that shit went out
the window. He where what the fuck happened to this
Olympic runner?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, somebody pointed out, like he's I think it's Adrian.
Speaker 3: Pointed out that he vapes time he's.
Speaker 2: Got asthma, and then he vapes all the time, and
I'm just like, whoa. But then Mikayla also points out,
I think in the second episode, she's like, THEO wants
the final to be to be running on a track inside. Yeah,
and that's not what this is. This is climbing a
mountain and whatever. And he can't do that. Yeah, boy
can he not?
Speaker 5: No, but Tod, to his credit, this was like at
this point, anyway, this is not the swim that we're
talking about.
Speaker 3: This is him at the puzzle and shit, right mm
he like literally just can't do it. Like he's not there.
Speaker 4: I realize that he's not. He's just not there, but
like he's we're not even at the policy. We are
just on the on the run from checkpoint one to
checkpoint two. We're not even at the second checkpoint yet.
Speaker 3: Basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we saw him gas out during the season.
Speaker 4: Multiple times. We saw him gas out during the season.
Speaker 5: I guess my point is you can't accuse him of
not trying, Like I really do think he's trying at
this point. He's trying as hard as he just can't
do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no I can't.
Speaker 2: If you know how to train for the Olympics, you
know how to train coming up to come on the challenge.
Speaker 4: No kidding, but yeah, so checkpoint two is a memory game.
It's you have to there are ten there are two
rows of ten ruins that are mixed up. TJ is
the one who can see what the ruins are. You
have to the team has to move the pegs around
and try and match up all ten runs. You can
ask for TJ to check them as many times as
you want until you get them all right.
Speaker 2: I like that they very quickly just figure out, okay,
let's just move this one over, check this one over,
check this one over.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's how you have to do it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, Turbo knew it right away or seeing it
on the TV right here. And I liked this dynamic
of Turbo was just sort of like, shut up, Sidney,
just to stand over there, don't touch it. And Turbot
just sort of rocked this whole thing. And it took
Sidney a few minutes to kind of catch on, like, oh,
maybe I should just let Turbo do this one.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was honestly like Turbo beasted through this.
He remembered which ones, change all that sort of thing
pretty quickly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he must have played a similar game because he
was on it. Man, he like he did. He knew
he had a strategy. He knew what he was doing,
he executed it, and he'd yeah, rocked it.
Speaker 3: Did a really a job.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yep. So Turbo and Sydney get there before
anybody else. Turbo beasts through this memory challenge and then
they leave before anyone else even gets there. Next team
up is Jerremine and Olivia and they are sorry. Next
team up is I think it's actually Cinderkin. No Jerimine, Olivia. Sorry,
Jermy and Olivia, and they are leaving as MICHAELA and
Cedric are getting there. And then you know, we have
THEO and Adrian farther behind. Nothing really all that exciting there.
Oh but the so where the Memory game is at
is kind of a checkpoint city as someone called it
in they're where they have to they get to that
area and then they have to run this big loop
up the mountain, around and back and do the next checkpoint.
So there are a few times where we see, like
where we see the first place team get to the
next checkpoint while the last place team is still at
the last checkpoint.
Speaker 3: He's so demoralizing for that last place team. Yeah horrible, yeah, no,
thank you.
Speaker 4: Again. Turbo is complaining about cramping it just consistently complaining
about cramping, but he does. We do get a great
line from him saying pain is my massage, blood is
my makeup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so weird. This guy's so weird, such a weird guy.
Speaker 4: So odd. Yeah whatever, he's terrebo. Checkpoint three is another game.
It's another puzzle game. This one is basically sudoku with
with blocks with four different colors on each side. Same story,
What was.
Speaker 2: That I would not be able to do this? I
don't think I I don't think i'd be very good
at sudoku either. I've never sat down to do it
because I'm just like that looks boring. But I don't
think I feel like I would fuck this up so bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was Sydney that that nailed this one, right, because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is where THEO really starts to lose me,
because by this point in time, they have run one,
they've run two, checkpoint three, or run to check point two.
They've won, run one, loop back to be at checkpoint three,
and they get back to checkpoint three, and we get
shots of THEO laying on the ground just basically telling
Adrian like, I can't, I can't, I can't I'm dying.
Like he stands up to try and help her at
one point in time, and she just kind of like
bats in the white like, no, don't even try.
Speaker 5: And so he's already he's already weighing out your patients.
Speaker 3: Carlin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I I kind of, I weirdly like feel
sorry for him because I think he's trying like that.
He's not he's not like quitting, you know what I mean,
He's trying as hard as he's just dying out there
just kiding.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I think it's just like my my
bias is the fact that he is an Olympic athlete
like we and his first season he beast mooded through
that season, like we have seen him be really really good,
and to see what he was in War of the
World to what he is now, it's like, what is
what happened to you?
Speaker 2: And then to talk all the he's talked all seasons, yes,
and this is his performance in the final.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and that's why it's just kind of and
it also it's just, yeah, the fact that he seems
to take Adrian for granted in a lot of things,
and I don't know, I just I'm not a huge
fan of you. Yeah, he's funny in some of his confessionals.
He did a really good job being the villain.
Speaker 3: He was a fun via him.
Speaker 4: I liked him this season, but I just said he
just got on my nerves. Yeah, be the main like
the last two episodes. Uh well, I mean even though
he leaves Adrian to kind of do the puzzle by herself,
she can't figure it out. Ultimately they end up timing
out on that run or on that puzzle and have
to carry two of the blocks for the rest for
the next uh circuit of the trail?
Speaker 2: How do we feel about timing out in the final
if let's just get rid of it and be like,
if you can't solve it, then you can't advance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the that's the difficulty is like
that's what it would have to be. But then what
if nobody solves it? You know, like that USA one
when that's sudo that nobody can do. Yeah, okay, well
there's not maybe not a second place team.
Speaker 4: Well, and like we've also there have been some challenges
where they've had to they had to time people out
because if they didn't it was it was like too dark,
and it was too dangerous for them to like then
try and run the trail at night without me light.
That's what it is. I can understand it in that aspect,
like we need to get you all through certain things
by certain times in order for safety reasons and all
that sort of things.
Speaker 2: Yes, but at what point do you sort of hinder
the actual game part of it just to have television
part of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yes, I also wonder for the time Sorry ahead, I
was gonnay.
Speaker 5: It's the same question for these like the meetup challenges, right,
like the Connect four challenge where no, we're not there yet,
but like that great equalizer that that could turn a
one hour had start into five minutes.
Speaker 2: It's a big complaint I have coming up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's coming up. But I also I wonder how
long the timeouts are, Like are they the normal twenty
minutes that we have seen in the past or is
this you know, half an hour.
Speaker 3: Yeah or more, don't matter. They came in last anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this they did kind of disqualify, you know
when they like, you know, we saw on the mountain
saying like you guys are in fourth by like a
long way.
Speaker 3: You know, I think they're encouraging.
Speaker 4: Sorry you know, yeah, no, I agree, the kind of
it takes a while, but they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: As as THEO and Adrian are running back out, or
maybe they're running in. I don't remember. I think they're
running out. Olivia and Jeremy are passing THEO and Adrian
at one point in time, and Olivia is looking at
THEO like, you you look like you're dying. He looks terrible,
like if you're if you're a girlfriend, yeah yeah, if
your aw girlfriend things you look like a zombie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked rough.
Speaker 4: Yeah he did, all right, And we're on the checkpoint four.
Everybody is a circuit checkpoint four. This is This is
a head to head game. There are four stairmasters where
they have to get on the StairMaster and not touch
with their hands and climb the StairMaster until both of
the other to both of the players on the other
team fall off. In order to start this game, you
have to wait for the next team to get there.
Turbo and Sydney are like half a lap in front
of the next team and have to sit there and
wait for Jerremine and Olivia to get into the checkpoint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is straight up bullshit.
Speaker 4: This is a this is like that challenge like that
finale years ago, where was it CT and no it
was Tyler and somewhat two teams. One team was CT
and WES were super far ahead. I think that's what
was CT and West were super far ahead. And then
they did the overnight challenge and the next day they
gave them a five minute head start and the other
team ended up winning. I think that's what I had
the wrong teams.
Speaker 3: But rivals one.
Speaker 5: I think it's it's that way, way way far ahead
and that translated to like a five minute head start
on day two and then yeah, they ended up losing
even though there were.
Speaker 3: Four hours ahead.
Speaker 5: It's you know, yeah, like it's a similar thing. Yeah,
it's like an equalizer. I think this was designed to
make it closer, but also a stair stepper challenge in
the middle of a climbing up a fucking mountain challenge
seems yeah cool and like strange and puts this second
place team at a disadvantage because they're going to battle
the third place team again on the same stairstep. You
know what I'm saying, Like the more more fair game.
Speaker 2: Here, any momentum, any of the teams have comes to
a screeching halt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah stop. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like people could argue, well, I mean they get
like a they get like a rest, but like for challengers,
they'll straight up tell you like, no, you just you
just need to keep going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to be continue.
Speaker 2: On rest like that honestly takes all the gas out
of out of yours mm hm. And this just completely
oh yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 4: So Turbo and Sydney show up and Sydney is she's
so angry that they have to sit there and wait
like twenty minutes for the next team to get in.
Speaker 2: I'd like, what was the point? What was the point
of being first?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was the point of being first? By so much? Too? Like,
they put in so much work to be there.
Speaker 2: You could have been second. It could have been second
and run slower and taken better care of your you know, situation,
and just had as much of a chance to advance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris is the stair climber was a callback to
the Trivia Challenge, which, yes it was. I agree with that.
I think it was a callback to that, but yeah,
it was just that was a that was a weird,
a weird challenge to have in the middle of a finale.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they four actually made way more sense.
It was less cruel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we have we have seen this sort of
thing happen in finales in the past. We have also
said that this is not a fair game. It never
has been. But this kind of shit is where that like,
it doesn't matter if it's not a fair game. Like
when I was watching this, I was trying to talk
myself out of the like being pissed because of this,
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. This is not
a fair game. This is not okay. Like you have
teams that are so far ahead that you were just
Sidney and Turbot would have won. They would have won
this this finale. But both of these games completely fucked
their their momentum.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well even though they finished first both games it Yeah,
it took a very long head start into a much
shorter one, which allowed other teams to overtake them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and with that.
Speaker 5: The stair stepper in particular, I think that really killed Yea,
Me and Olivia because they came in legs completely worn off,
having to jump upon a stair stepper, immediately lose it
and then back on the fucking stair stepper immediately like
into every time. Now, Yeah, I think like the Connect
four made more sense because there's it's a mental game,
there's no physical exhaustion. That seemed more like a fair
way to do it instead of like torturing these people
and making them Yeah, because you're right, that's place a
severe disadvantage.
Speaker 4: For that second place team is absolutely at the biggest
disadvantage of any of the other teams because they have
to battle against the first place team who's already had
to sit there and wait for them, who's still a
little bit more rested. They have a much higher chance
of the third place team showing up while they're still
doing it, so they would have to immediately go into
the next battle, which means that they have a much
higher chance of having the fourth place team show up
while they're still battling the third and potentially losing to
the third, which they did, and having to go into
the fourth place team and then potentially losing against that. Yeah,
it's the only team that it fucks over is I mean,
give the potential fucking over the first place team, but
the team that it really fucks over is the second
place team.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, that's what it.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I mean, we're going to get there anyway, but
we've gotten into another final where are honestly the entire
first day does not matter.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we have that into another one where the
entire first day is completely negated.
Speaker 2: Turbine Sydney could have come in dead last on the
first day. It's just been a little bit like, oh,
we didn't wear ourselves out. That's great. The only competition
they really had to win was the uh and it's
not even a winning one, but the only one they
had to like win would have been uh the overnight thing,
which is just a stand on this log while one
of you sleeps and then just move on to the
second to the next day and then just dominate that
day instead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they had so we go from checkpoint four,
so we'll get to we'll get to the over the
night over.
Speaker 2: Yea, I'm jumping way ahead. But we're talking about things
like like none of this ship matters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because in the what I was gonna say is
in the overnight thing, first place team has a different
amount of time that they have to do the challenge
in comparison the other teams and yeah, I mean, if
you got there as the last place team, you have
to trade off back and forth a lot more to
do that game, but you could potentially, potentially, I actually
get around the same mena sleep as other teams if
you played it correctly and like split the time properly.
But whatever. Anyway, so checkpoint where are we at? We're
at checkpoint four? Yeah, So Turbo and Sydney sit there
and wait for Jerremine and Olivia to get in. Jerremy
and Olivia get on the on the stairmasters and Sydney
basically tells her about get off, like you're not going
to be of any use because you're already cramping up.
She stays on with Jerremine Olivia. Olivia makes the decision
to save her legs quote unquote save her legs, and
she gets off. So then it's just Jeerimi versus Sydney.
I really want to know how long they went for?
Did it say that on the screen.
Speaker 5: Not that I paid any attention to, but I do
think they both tried really hard. Jeremy just got his
rhythm mixed up, and yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: It looked like they were there for at least twenty minutes.
So Jeremy and Sydney are going against each other, and
ultimately Jeremy just kind of makes a misstep and Sydney
ends up winning. But while they are on this, Cedric
and Michayla show up and yeah, so then we end
up having Jeremy and Olivia vers Cedric Michaela. So it's
Olivia versus Cedric really because Michaela is getting her ankle
wrapped and Cedric wins almost instantly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Olivia pulls a weird one. She's like, should
I save my legs? And then Jearimy says, well, that's
up to you.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 5: She quick legs, Yeah, She's gonna save her legs, which
seemed weird to me. Carlyn just stepped away. But Wilfi,
does this seem like a good strategy If you're Olivia,
don't you want to fight really hard to move up
a place?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do find it interesting that
Olivia tried does what she can to talk her self
into getting a break. Yeah, she's just she's like, should
I be saving my legs? Is that something I should
be doing? I should probably be saving my legs. And
then Jeremy's like, okay, fine, whatever, just stop talking to
me while I'm before I'm walking. It's just like she
does that both, like both both times, yeah.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 4: The second time. I like, at first I thought that
she was trying to talk herself into saving her legs
to then because she knew that she wouldn't be able
to beat Cedric and michaela to try and save her
legs to be able to beat THEO and Adrian. But
then when THEO and Adrian get there, she is basically
trying to talk because THEO is dead. He is laying
on the ground, so it's going to be Adrian versus
Jeremy Olivia, and Olivia spends a solid few minutes trying
to tell Adrian, don't bother doing it, just save your
legs for tomorrow or for the next checkpoint, like basically
just trying to talk her out of even attempting because
which I was sort of rubbed me. I mean, yeah,
a smart thing for her to do. It was a
smart thing to like try to worm her way into
Adrian's mind and like make her think like just you know,
just give it us. Then you guys are only delayed
by like ten minutes, not that big of a deal
and then neither of us have to like work for
and like, I one thousand percent understand why she did it,
but it also rubbed me the fucking wrong way because
it made me feel like, why aren't you like you?
I don't know it just like, ugh, I can't even
like put it into words. I just didn't like the
way that she was doing it because it almost felt
like she was just trying to blame things. And I
don't know how. I don't I don't know how to
put in words. I just didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: An Adrian just be like, well, why don't you stay
here while we go? If you're constant so concerned about
saving your legs, we'll take that.
Speaker 4: That is what I'm trying to to articulate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah, but I think you know
she was right, that was the right, that was the
way to make it was. But yeah, and I respect
what's a name Adrian too for fighting it out, but
you know she wasn't gonna win that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. Adrian finally decides like, no, I'm gonna try it.
I'm gonna give it my all. She gets on, they
do maybe thirty seconds. She's like, no, this is I
can't do this, like we're just I'm gonna I'm gonna
save my legs and we're just gonna go.
Speaker 2: Was just laying on the ground like I can't die.
I can't do anything.
Speaker 4: Christ Yeah, he annoyed the ship out of me. But yeah,
so now everybody has taken the helicopter to the new spot. Well,
when Sydney and Turbo get to the new checkpoint, helicopter
lets them off in the helicopter, though, we get a
we get a talking head confessional from Sydney where she's like, Okay,
the new Threats have like more endurance, more tanasty, more
willingness to like try at all of these games than
any of the Vets, and she says that she's very
rapidly losing any respect for the Vets, which part of
me didn't disagree with her.
Speaker 5: The Vets did not show up here, man, and like
they all that's right. THEO looks like fucking dead. Mikayla's
got her ankle. Olivia is trying to talk people out
of competing, but yeah, it just comes off as kind
of pathetic.
Speaker 2: So Olivia doesn't have an excuse. She's the only one
that really doesn'tgnant she was pregnant.
Speaker 4: There is that, but she it was only like seven weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like yeah, but still yeah. Oh.
Speaker 4: Also when they're walking, when Turbo and Sydney are walking,
I don't know if you guys caught this, but this
made me laugh. When Turbo and Sydney are walking to
the helicopter. Uh, Turbo's trying to like kind of pump
them up, but he's like, yeah, we totally deserve it.
After Sydney has just been on the treadmill or on
the stuffer, and you see Sydney just pull this face
and like she doesn't say it out loud because we yes,
she's looking at Terble like excuse me. She is so
annoyed with him at this point.
Speaker 3: I just reading the room here because yeah.
Speaker 5: Then on the plane, he's like we're gonna fucking win
this shit and yes, and he's just like stop talking
to me, stop saying because at this point.
Speaker 4: In time, like she's basically been pulling him along the trail.
Like he did well at the puzzle, but she's been
basically pulling him along the trail. She was the one
who just did the StairMaster.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: We get to the new checkpoint and it dropped. The
helicop drops him off, and they find out that one
one team member has to get suited up in a
very I'm assuming very thick neoprem wetsuit uh and swim
across a small but frigid lake that's at like nine
thousand feet above sea level and or at eight thousand
feet above sea level, and they have to go get
the key at the other side of the lake and
then swim back. And of course Sydney immediately he's like, yeah,
I'll do this.
Speaker 5: And this doesn't seem timed or anything right, This doesn't.
Speaker 4: They just seems like you just have to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's more of just a it's gonna fuck
with your head, like you and your partner have to
decide who's going to do this, which for most of
the teams it's kind of we knew who's going to
do it going in, did we? Uh? I mean I
assumed like Sidney, Sidney set up like off the bat
immediately was like, oh, yeah, I'm doing this, and we've
already seen Turbo have issues with the cold.
Speaker 2: We knew Jermi was going to do it because he's
not going to trust Olivia to get that shit.
Speaker 4: Done exactly, and I assumed that Sedwick was going to
do it because Mikayla's ankle is fucked.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is interesting that it ended up being every
new threat in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The team that annoyed the ship out of me
though was Turbo, or was THEO? And Adrian of course.
Speaker 2: Was Adrian. I would have been like, well, fuck you,
and I just want to wait and sat by the
fire and I be like, either you're going to get
it or we're going home. I don't really care either way.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the part that annoyed the shit out of
me more than anything else was THEO wasn't doing the
like I just like he didn't look like he was
dying in a I feel so bad. I'm so sorry
about this, Like I just I can't do it. He
was the way that he was posturing and like acting
towards it. He sounded mad like no, of course you're
going to do this. No I'm not doing that. Yes
of course you have to do that. Like it Just like, dude,
you haven't done anything. She has been pulling you along
in this trail. She has been piping you up this
entire game. She is the one who's been doing these puzzles.
She was the one who just tried the StairMaster. You
were laying on the ground for the last time you've
also had you know, you had at least ten minutes
just sitting on the ground back at the last checkpoint,
and then you had the flight over here, like you've
had some time to recover, and you can't pull your
weight even a little bit for this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was you know, I probably had
less of a hard time with this than you guys did.
But I think that's where THEO went wrong. Is he
should have just come in low and said, like, listen,
I can't do it, like straight up, I just can't
make it, like I'm going to die out there.
Speaker 3: In said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he came in with this thing of like I'm
not doing it. That's that's for you to do, you
get it, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just his entitlement was just so Yeah.
Speaker 2: I liked his like, will's time to earn your stripes
and I'm just fuck off, dude, She's been like pulling
your weight all season.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yep. I agree with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Honestly, of all of the people that started this
this show, this entire season. Of all people to make
it to the final, Adrian was not someone I would
put in that top time.
Speaker 3: Same same.
Speaker 4: If you had told me that she was going to
the final at the beginning of the season, I would
have laughed in your face.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: She rocked with them, man, she had a good season.
She wouldn't that keep man?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she cried at one point in time, and I
totally get it, like she was just so overwhelmed with everything,
and I'm sure overwhelmed by his bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yep, but she was tired, just overwhelmed. You know. I'm
sure I would have cried too. I just would have
been like, this is fucking bullshitted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I absolutely would have. I'd cry when I
get really frustrated.
Speaker 3: I would have sa.
Speaker 4: I would have just been like tears all over the place.
Speaker 2: That's what sucks being like a six three dude, like
nice and big and you just get so madam.
Speaker 4: But I've had to tell bosses before, like, hey, heads up,
before we have this conversation, like I'm going to start crying.
It happened. It has nothing to do with you. It's
just because I get when I I cry when I
get frustrated. Just get try not feel weird.
Speaker 2: I don't get that. Fine, it's for me. It's when
I'm really mad, which makes it's like if I'm trying.
Speaker 4: To find till one boss that but and there, Yeah,
he still felt weird by the conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would too. That's a weird thing to say
to somebody.
Speaker 2: I'd like, do we need to have like that?
Speaker 4: Like, hey, heads up, this is going to happen. I
could have just started bawling and really made it weird.
Speaker 2: Female representation to come into my office please?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: All right? So, yeah, we get through check point five
and TJ finally shows up. Like everybody's standing around the campfire.
It's dark outside, everybody's bundled up there. They all look
like they're fucking freezing. I'm sure it was chilly. Uh.
TJ shows up and tells him like, good job. You know,
we've You've made it. At the end of day one,
we're gonna do the nighttime challenge. But before we do that,
does anyone want to stake a claim on anyone else's partner?
Cut scene?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: God, I can't believe nobody fucking staked a claims.
Speaker 2: Bullshit Other than this just being a good cliffhanger, Like,
what was even the point of including this in the show?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was a good cliffhanger. But I
like the moment that that cliffhanger happened. Of course it's
not going to happen.
Speaker 5: Why you think I thought Sidney was going to take
a claim on near me. I really thought they were
building the fucking thing. I was waiting for that to happen.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Nobody knows about the talking heads.
Speaker 2: But there are Yeah, why nobody nobody did it?
Speaker 4: So, yeah, there are a few. They have a few
confessionals right before the end of the up because it
cuts about thirty seconds later after he asked that question.
And you have like Sidney kind of says jre me
Jerimi in her talking head.
Speaker 3: You have.
Speaker 4: THEO saying like, wait, could I stake a claim on
Olivia and then we could potentially like win this thing together.
You've got a few of the little talking heads of
people saying that. But there was just there was some
feeling about it where it's like it felt like a
like a red herring. It felt like the skulls in
other seasons. It just it felt like you guys are
doing this just to like try to add drama.
Speaker 3: Bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most of the teams like it picks up the
next morning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, we needed more info here because Chris says here,
I think it was because they would have had to
do extra cardio just take the claim. Probably true, but
we don't know what that game would have looked like.
Would have been nice to know. Also, would have been
nice to know, like what the penalty is if you
don't do it, because I assume there has to be
a penalty if you like take claim and then you
don't win the thing.
Speaker 4: True, I didn't.
Speaker 5: We should know that, and then we should know what
happens to like the other penalties in the time, if
you're switching partners, what happens to the rank? You know
what I'm saying, Like if you were the third place
team and you swapped with the first place team, person,
what number are you now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess I didn't even think that far into it.
I just assumed immediately that it was at herring.
Speaker 3: I think those.
Speaker 5: Questions are why nobody staked to the claim person. They
needed to tell us what that shit was.
Speaker 4: I think, of all times for them to just lay
it all out on the board. This would have been
the right one. Like started off with, does anybody want
to stake a claim? If you do, then you know,
these are your your benefits if you win, if you don't,
this is like if you if you do this and
you don't win, here are your penalties. And this is
the game that you have to play. Where like if
it was something where it's like we had you have
to you know, those two teams have to stand on
logs for an hour and whoever falls off first is
the like loses. Then you know, all the other teams
get some time off and I don't know, like, yeah,
it would have been It would have been interesting to
find out what they would have done if they had
heard all of it.
Speaker 2: We just spent right before this, every single person chick
about their partner. Ye right, So I'm like, why would
somebody not, Like, especially if I was Adrian, I'd be like, oh,
fuck this bullshit, I just take a claim and take.
Speaker 4: Care me of all of the teams. I was surprised
that Adrian didn't.
Speaker 3: Stake Oh, I wouldn't say, Cedric, I forget about that.
Speaker 2: I did like the Mikayla was self aware enough that
she was like part of me is thinking I should
tell him to do it, just so he'll have a
better chance of winning because my ankle stuff fucked up.
And I at least was like, all right, get on you,
Mikayla for at least, like, you know, having him in
mind rather than yourself with this intrigue you got going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but Sidney's hating Turbo by this point. I'm
just I was just really surprised nobody staked to claim.
But I really think it was just because they didn't.
Speaker 3: Know the details.
Speaker 5: It was too scary of a proposition without knowing what
would happen.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, so finale or final episode of the finale
picks back up, and it picks back up with TJ
asking does anyone wants to make a claim, And that's
when we get another set of talking heads where basically
all of the team members who have been complaining about
their other their partner then go into like, you know,
I've been riding with this person for the last you know,
however many weeks, like we've really created a bond, Like
Sydney said something to the effect of like, even though
Turbo's pissing me the fuck off right now, like he
has been ride or Die for me this entire season,
like I have a serious chance with him. But yeah,
I kind of wish that somebody had stick to claim.
I think that would have been really fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, Sydney may have won she had done with
the Army.
Speaker 3: True, I mean almost certainly.
Speaker 4: I think that she absolutely would have won because I
think of all of the teams, they would have been
able to get over the extra uh extra endurance that
was needed to get through a challenge for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anybody else that's the best.
Speaker 5: That's probably the best male and the best female right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I also think that if if Jeremy and Sydney
had if one of the two of them had stayed
to claim and that had won, I think Turbo and
Olivia probably would have gotten third. I don't think that
they could they could like motivate each other enough to
get it going. I think Olivia would be too distraught
over the fact that she just lost a teammate who
helped kind of build her up, And I think Turbo
would have been too pissed off at Jeremy or at Sydney,
which everyone staked to be like to be levelhead and
headed enough to like get keep going.
Speaker 3: M I agree, yep.
Speaker 4: And I think Cedric and Mikayla, even though Mikayla's ankle
is fucked, I think they would have been able to
like they would have gotten that little bit of bump
of like oh shit, like now we're competing against Turbo
and Olivia, like we can beat them.
Speaker 3: So yeh that's my thought.
Speaker 4: Uh, overnight Challenge. This is kind of a typical overnight chale.
This is something that we've seen in many other seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't seen it for a while. I like
this one.
Speaker 3: I do too.
Speaker 5: One person stands a log, the other person gets to
sleep for a minute.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah that simple, yep, simple easy. If you get
off the log, you have switch spots, which I the
thing that I was really surprised by is the other
partner that was quote unquote sleeping got up and came
and relieved their person on the log more often than
the person on the log went to the tent. And
in past seasons when we've seen this, it's like the
person on the log falls off because they are so
tired that they then have to go and wake up
their partner and they're just just oh, I'm so sorry
I fell off type of thing.
Speaker 5: And we see Turbo tries to do extra time on
the log to give Sydney a little time to rest
because Sidney worked harder the day before.
Speaker 3: That was nice of Turbo, which.
Speaker 4: May have been to his detriment.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: The other key thing about this is this is the
first time we've seen this. TJ tells the teams Turber
on Sydney because you guys finished first in day one,
you get six hours that you have to do this
and then you can sleep for the rest of the night,
which means that they have to which means they're starting
at at nine pm. Because they are done, they stop
at three am, so they get to sleep past the
three am mark.
Speaker 2: Chris says they did not indicate following me and switch.
TJ one said that if you step or fall off
the log, then you have to wake your partner up
to switch with you.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Turbern Sydney have to do this for six hours,
Cedric and Michaela have to do this for seven Yearmy
and Olivia have to do it for eight.
Speaker 2: And Sydney is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Adrian have to do it all night, which
I'm assuming as nine hours.
Speaker 2: Sydney the city does the professional She's like one hour, yea, yeah,
that's what I get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all came I put in Yeah, that's fucking bullshit.
That's yeah.
Speaker 5: The Challenge really needs to do better at this losing
of one day thing, yeah, because I like a multi
day challenge, but I don't like a one day that
translates to a one hour of sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they have always been bad about this. Yeah,
for forty fucking seasons they have been bad, like, well,
I guess you know what, thirty seasons since they started
the overnight challenges. They have always been bad about the
set for the next day or the reset for the
next day, whether that be the overnight reset or the
next morning reset because the next morning they all wake up.
Oh before I do that. Uh. When Adrian gets on
the log, she's missed Chatterbox and so she starts playing
the alphabet game with everybody. So she says, A, and
then you have to name a vegetable that like they
say vegetables, you have to name a vegetable. It starts
with A. And then they're she's trying to get Turbo
into the game, and she says D, and Turbo says, tomato.
Speaker 3: I can't think of a vegetable it starts a D.
I couldn't do it either.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I stopped thinking after he said tomato.
It was so it was so adorable and so just
like he wholeheartedly didn't know if it was spelled with
a T or a D or what. It was so funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I love Adrian too, Like I normally hate
these chatterbox type of people, but in a situation like that,
as an overnight I would have I would have.
Speaker 4: Loved this, perfect time for it.
Speaker 5: You just give her a topic and she just fucking
talks like, yeah, oh I love If I was there,
I would have loved this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Turbo says that she's like a machine gun. Yeah,
one topic to the next, one thing to the next.
It just cracked me up because, yeah, this is the
first time that like somebody being a chatterbox and them
doing them montage of like a few little snippets of
conversation actually worked.
Speaker 3: I would have been so funny.
Speaker 5: Normally, like in a normal conversation, I would have hated this,
but as an overnight such I would have loved. I
would have been like feeding into it and yeah.
Speaker 4: This kind of situation is when you need this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it flap happy. It's just so tired.
Speaker 5: It's like you're stone, You're so tired, and just like
everything's funny. Yeah, we would have had fun out there.
Speaker 4: I just me and Adrian still Domato whole art like said,
it was such earnestness. It was just oh I loved it.
It made me laugh so hard.
Speaker 3: But moving on from Domato.
Speaker 4: Yep, the next morning, oh, the night before, before they
all go to bed and whatnot, TJ makes sure to
point out, or at least in the in the voiceover,
TJ make sure to point out, make sure you know
where your rope is at, because you're gonna need your
rope for day two.
Speaker 5: That sounded like it was cut in after the fact.
Speaker 4: Yes it did. But yes, So the next morning, everybody's
kind of waiting for TJ to get there, and we
see Cedric kind of frantic trying to figure out where
the hell his and Michayla's rope is at. Everybody's asking questions,
and he's like, I set our rope down right here
next campfire. I remember doing this last night, putting it
right here, and in his talking head He says, either
someone else stole our rope and didn't realize it or
they lost it, and then we can be confessional from
THEO saying, I don't know. At some point in time,
I picked up a rope. I don't know if it
was our rope. I put it in our tent and yeah,
so I don't know. I don't know if it's our
rope or if it's somebody else's rope, but we have that.
Speaker 2: So, uh.
Speaker 3: There is little background information on this.
Speaker 5: THEO has since taken to social media and said, like,
that was definitely not their rope. That was definitely our rope.
It might have been production or something that grabbed it.
I'm not sure, but that was definitely not we. We
definitely did not take the rope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, have you seen any other social media I really
want to know if there's Swanny Chiman, maybe you've seen something.
I know you've been pretty You're usually pretty active on
social media.
Speaker 5: Kayla said something about like that she is not sure
who took the rope, but she doesn't really care, which
seems like a very Mikayla thing, like she probably did
the math of like, did that really impact our place
in the game?
Speaker 3: No, then I'm just not gonna worry about it.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, ultimately it didn't. But part of me
thinks that it. Part of me thinks that THEO was
so delirious the day before that he probably did.
Speaker 5: But it's also there's no payoff to this, like why
don't why don't we have a shot behind the scenes
shot or something of this, Like it's.
Speaker 3: A weird thing. It's like a punishment and we don't
even know what happened. It's weird.
Speaker 4: Well, it's also weird, like did they not check all
four tenths? Like wouldn't you think like, oh, well, maybe
somebody put it. There are only so many places that
your rope can go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you did say like it's your trucks, right, But
TJ did say it's like it's your job to keep
track of the rope, and so Cedric, by his own admission,
did not, So maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Matter if it was taken by whoever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it was a very weird penalty for
a storyline that we were not.
Speaker 3: Really we don't have a lot of closure on this.
Who did it? Where's the rope? What happened?
Speaker 4: Chris? Is they put it too close? To the fire maybe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, legit, yeah, or some pa came and scooped it
up with garbage or something, but like it would have.
Speaker 3: Been nice to know, you know what it's I don't know,
it's really weird.
Speaker 4: Swani says, nobody is really sure some blade production lo. Yeah,
all right, Well, so I guess it happened.
Speaker 3: Oh I bet it was Blue.
Speaker 4: Blue came back to steal the rope, flew into the mountain,
into the Andes Mountains just to grab the rope run away.
Speaker 3: Nice. Uh CT had a practice climbing a rope bridge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they still have rope to build a bridge.
So they start day two and TJ kicks it off
by asking everybody do you have your ropes? And I
mean to MICHAELA and Cedric's like to their reddit, thank
you a total brain fart right there? Do you see
that happen?
Speaker 2: I think only the bruise on their ass has made
her way up.
Speaker 4: To the brain going full Mitch McConnell and just screen.
MICHAELA and Cedric say no, we don't know where ours
is at. So ultimately this just results in a five
minute penalty.
Speaker 2: And they it is ten minutes.
Speaker 4: Oh maybe it is ten minutes, so ten minute penalty.
Speaker 5: Cedric says, like, that's a lot of which it is.
Ten minutes is a lot of time they have.
Speaker 3: To make up.
Speaker 4: Ten minutes is later on. This is a five minute penalty.
This one is the later on is the ten minute penalty.
Speaker 5: Okay, I believe that. Okay, I don't have enough information
to refute it.
Speaker 4: So either way, it's a multiple mill penalty.
Speaker 2: I'm Mikaela. I don't care.
Speaker 3: It doesn't fucking matter, so let's just go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they just get a penalty on starting the
run to checkpoint seven because TJ has told them today
you have to race from the campsite that we are
currently at, which is at nine eight hundred feet, to
the top of that mountain right there, which is at
like twelve seven hundred something feet, so pretty decent elevation game. Yeah,
checkpoint seven when they get there, is trivia, but it
is trivia about your partner. So they the questions are like,
what what is your partner's middle name, what does your
partner's sign? Who is your partner's like original partner? I
think it was the original partner, and then there was
something else. There's another question. I don't remember what The
fourth one was, Oh, what was your partner's original TV show?
The original season that they aired on?
Speaker 3: Middle name Marie? No and no, Carlin san Diego. Yes,
I don't know your middle name. That's one of the
weird ones that I usually ask you. What's your middle name?
Do you know?
Speaker 2: I believe it's Lynn, Yes that.
Speaker 3: I don't know your middle name? Do you know me?
Do you know my middle name?
Speaker 4: I know you've said it at some point in time.
I don't remember off the top of my head.
Speaker 3: I know Wolf's middle name. I know your middle name, Carlin.
Speaker 4: Do you know do you know my wolf?
Speaker 2: Brian will I'll give you a hint if you get
my middle name. You also guess Tim's middle name.
Speaker 3: Oh, I wasn't going to get that hand.
Speaker 5: That's a great hand dot, She's stupid. It's not I
used to get by TJ. We've talked about that. I
could also pass for t J.
Speaker 4: Well, no one actually cares about this.
Speaker 2: I will so long hope to see you never.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's doing yep, yeah good. What's your middle name?
You have?
Speaker 4: You guess it. Let's let us take backpack and a monkey.
Speaker 2: Dora Carlin Dora.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, is it really Dora?
Speaker 5: Scott says, what Carlin Dora?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: I would have never guessed that in ten thousand guesses.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: I didn't think you would Carlin Dora the Explorer exactly.
Speaker 4: That's why Carlin san Diego works so well. Both of
them are explorers, the carbon san Diego. Carl and San Diego.
Either one also stole things. So maybe that's but Doora
does when she gets told her.
Speaker 2: So, Chris asked. Chris said that Scott, as in his
middle name was Scott, to which then Scott said, what
Chris is like, No, No, Scott's my middle name.
Speaker 5: I need more middle names, Scott, what's your middle name? Swane,
what's your middle name?
Speaker 2: I think Scott's middle name is Chris.
Speaker 5: That would be That would be great, Scott Christopher.
Speaker 4: And Scottifer Chris.
Speaker 3: H Denise. All right?
Speaker 4: Anyway, so checkpoint checkpoint seven. It's like I said, it's
trivia about the part about the partners. If you get
an answer wrong, you have to run back down part
of the hill to go pick up a number to
help solve your puzzle, because the four numbers unlock a padlock,
and then you grab your key and stuff. And you
continue on which what was the piece of paper that
they grabbed?
Speaker 3: I think it was just the answer.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, so one. Sorry, I should have explained
that a better. One of the partners when they opened
their padlock, their key, the key was in there. Other partner,
when they opened their padlock, there was a piece of
paper in there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it never talked about that that I saw. I
know what you're saying. I don't think we ever talked
about that.
Speaker 4: I wonder if it was part of a checkpoint that
we never got to see.
Speaker 5: My next question, if you knew my month of birth,
would you know my sign?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: Are you one of those people that can do that? No,
I can't do that either.
Speaker 2: Oh well on my own, I don't know anybody else's.
Speaker 5: I couldn't either. Yeah, there's no way I would get
anybody's sign. Even if I knew your exact Bertha, I
would not be able to get your sign.
Speaker 4: Scott said his mom spelled Tyler wrong on his per certificate. Oh,
because it's Tyler with an A instead of with an E.
That's correct. Oh no, no, Ship That's why that's why
Oprah's name is Oprah, because her name was going to
be uh uh oh, what was it? Harpo? No, not harpo,
it was oprah, I know, right, No, it was it
was something. It was something else and they switched two
of the letters, and so it's oprah.
Speaker 3: Good. Sorry, Yeah, it a map.
Speaker 2: Since Carlin's middle name is Dora. You find the map, Carlin.
Speaker 4: I mean apparently I can't because I don't know what
the piece of paper was, or maybe I had it,
I don't know. Uh, but Sydney beasts right through this.
She gets all of the answers correct. Turbo gets one wrong.
He doesn't know what her middle name is. Jeremy and
Olivia are both kind of like, well, fuck, we only
became partners like three days ago, so we have no
idea what each other any of this information is. Which
I think if she was still with what's his face Brad, no,
not Brad Will Will, Brad might as well be Chad.
If she was still with him, she probably still would.
They still would have gotten note of the answers.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, probably we saw Cedric didn't know Michaela's middle name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we found out I think said was Renee Renee
Renee yeah, el still hot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And yet THEO and Adrian both get at least
one question wrong and then they all continue running on.
Adrian's having a lot of trouble on day two with
hiking up this hill RD this mountain, have a lot
She's struggling, which I mean fair, hiking to twelve thousand
feet is rough. Sydney try it keeps trying to get
Turbo to run, and Turbo was still complaining.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I had a lot of sympathy for Sydney in
this because Turbo has put on such a like a
game face this entire season. Yeah, And like she's even
saying in one of her talking heads, like Turbo keeps
telling it, has been telling me all season long, like
he's run finals on two broken toes, he's done Survivor
with broken, with all these broken bones, He's you know,
lived on streets and just all of this stuff. Why
is he having so much trouble?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And she really was trying, I feel like, to do
the right thing and motivate him properly, because on their
way up, he's complaining, He's like, I barely slept last night,
and she's like, you can do it. You know, she
didn't go low of like you son of a bitch.
You know you didn't whatever, at least from what we saw.
Speaker 4: We didn't see it throw it throw her he We
didn't see her throw it in his face. Well, yeah,
you barely slept last night because you wouldn't go to sleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's not throwing it back in her It's not
a debate. It's like she's trying to motivate and encourage.
I really do feel like she's trying her best here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris, Chris increased with me.
Speaker 2: I have no I have no problem with Saidney.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Turbo's performances embarrassing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: For as strong as a player he's been, and for
as much game, as much ship as he has talked
all season, it was surprising to see him this season
as much as so at the very end, as much
shit as he's talking while he's being metavaced. That was nuts.
So we're up at the elevation of ten thy three
hundred feet at checkpoint eight. Again, this is where they
have to wait for the next team to get there.
So Turbo and Sydney are so far ahead of people
and they have they have to stop and play connect
for Yeah really yep, So they ride for Jeremy and Olivia.
Speaker 5: But to turn his credit, Man, this motherfucker could play
Connect four too, Yes, and his Connect four geez right.
Speaker 4: So he may he may have been struggling on the
on the endurance part of this, but his mind still
seems to be there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, turber on Sydney. When they get to continue
on Jeremony, Olivia then go up against THEO and Adrian
and apparently Olivia and THEO play Connect four often. Is
this a game that, like, you guys have played with
your significant others?
Speaker 3: Often?
Speaker 4: Have you haven't played it with your significant others?
Speaker 3: I mean it's one of these things. I got kids,
so I Connected four and yes I played it with
my ex okay, but not you have kids.
Speaker 4: It just seems like a weird thing for THEO and
Olivia to be playing often.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't seen it. Yeah, we haven't seen it
on the challenge.
Speaker 5: It would be one thing if they had Tanner ms
or something that was challenged typically challenge related that they
did together, But yeah, Connect four is not when we
see it.
Speaker 4: Just it seems like a very childish game for two
grown adults to be playing on a consistent basis when
they don't have any children in the house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Scott used this to make fun of THEO, but
THEO also did really well in this, so maybe shove
it up your butts, Scott.
Speaker 2: Well he did, he did well against Olivia, let's not. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So THEO, THEO and Olivia both say, you know, every
time we've played this game against each other outside of this,
THEO has won and Olivia is like, but I'm gonna
win this time.
Speaker 2: But do THEO go on? No, bam bitch, all right,
we're out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, relatively quickly too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So THEO and Adrian continue on. They are now in
second place, which shocker of all shockers, right there. Cedar
Can and Mackayla get up and they go against Jeromye
Olivia and they also win.
Speaker 2: So Chris brings up a point that THEO is a
daddy already, so maybe that's what It's true.
Speaker 4: It's true, okay, yeah, but isn't his son, Like though
I don't know, Carlyn, whatever, it still seems like a
weird game for two adults to be playing.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Jerimy and Olivia have fallen from being in
second place to being in fourth place. And this is
where the ten minute penalty is at. Yeah, because this
is when Jeremy is complaining about, like, shit, we now
have a ten minute penalty. We are ten minutes behind
last place. Sydney and Turbo are not even visible anymore.
Speaker 5: And I had so much respect for Jearimy at this
point because they're standing there doing fuck all, doing nothing,
and he says to Olivia, Hey, when we're allowed to go,
we gotta step it up.
Speaker 3: We gotta go.
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you, if I'm Jeremy, I'm just sort
of like, hey, this was a good game.
Speaker 3: We got fourth place now, so that sucks for us.
Speaker 5: Like I would have totally been giving up here, ready
to go.
Speaker 4: I mean, what kind of an athlete Jeremy is too
to be able to do that, to be able to
do that with like a relatively clear head and not
be like Olivia, get your shit and gear, what the
fuck are we doing? Like you need to hurry your ass, Like.
Speaker 2: Switch cut to her confessional where she's like, what do
you think I've been doing the whole time?
Speaker 4: Me fair? I at this point in time, I would
have been in her boat of like I have already
given everything that I have what do you mean I
have to give it all. I have them that it
would have been rough.
Speaker 5: I loved Army's perspective here, but that's not what I
would have had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's kind of factor into a question I
have here in a minute time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so TJ says, Okay, you guys can go. It's
been ten minutes, and they they book it. You see
them relatively quickly pass uh, THEO and Adrian, and that's
because THEO and Adrian have been taking a lot of
breaks because they're both having troubles. And then not long
after that they passed Cedric and Cedric and Mikayla and
it's just the their ten minute penalty is.
Speaker 3: This is also me.
Speaker 5: Kayla's like falling over on the trail several times, right,
and her legs are like stiff like they look I
don't even know how to describe.
Speaker 3: It doesn't look kind of looks like a baby deer
on ice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really weird, like her legs are twisting in
weird ways and stuff. And yep, just a pause and
get checked out by medical, which slows them down by
a lot, I think.
Speaker 4: And yeah, so well, first we have Adrian and THEO
who keep taking breaks. They're having a lot of trouble.
Adrian finally sits down next to some rocks at one
point in time and it's just like, I don't know
if I can continue doing this. They're up, but I
think they're where I think they were, like eleven thousand
feet at this point in time, Like, I don't know
if I continue doing this. And to Theo's credit, he's
not like, you know, get your ass up. He's relatively
relatively okay with us. I think I could see it
in his face where he's kind of like, thank God, like,
please tell me you can't do this, so I quit too.
Speaker 5: I think there was some of that, but THEO was
trying to motivate I think.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this is when producers tell them like, hey, look,
you guys can continue on, but you are really far
behind third and unless you book it like ol like
Jerreminya and Olivia just did, you're not going to get
higher than fourth.
Speaker 3: Just stop. It's just stop.
Speaker 4: They call it and go to the medical tent and
go warm up, and so they're done.
Speaker 5: I've seen people do this in finals. I have no
problem with this.
Speaker 2: So my question is, would you guys, hold on, just
quit or would you at least want to be like nah,
I think I'm going to try to keep going like
at very least, I just wanted to push myself to
reach the top of the mountain. It's not even about
winning money or anything at this point. It's just whenever
in my life am I going to get the opportunity
to climb a mountain like this again? Would you try
to do that? Or would you just be like nah,
my peace off to the tent.
Speaker 4: This is what's funny about this is the thing that
comes to mind when you say that is Devon girl,
Devon in I don't remember what sees Was it free agent? No,
it wasn't free agents.
Speaker 3: It was I think that's free agents?
Speaker 4: Was Kara when Kara won?
Speaker 3: No, Laurel won free agents?
Speaker 4: Okay, so nobody it was. Yeah. So this is there.
They have to climb the mountain and free agents them
and Devon is all by herself, hours behind everybody else,
hiking in the snow, telling herself, I can do this,
I can do this. I can just make it to
the mountain, the top of the mountain. Because all she
had to do was make it the top of the mountain.
She won money. And there have definitely been times where
I have been on hikes or been like out in
doing hard, strenuous things, and the thing that pops into
my head is Devon saying that she can like I
can do this, I can do this, And all that
I'm thinking is like, Devin made it up that fucking mountain.
I can do this. Devin made up the fucking mountain.
I can do this. Devon made it up that fuck mountain.
I can do this.
Speaker 5: So I guess I have two points, and one is
just sort of like ability, like I don't think that
THEO can do it, and an agent I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think they.
Speaker 5: I don't think they have the ability to make it
up the mountain at this point. So it's a safety thing.
And also there is no money for them. It's fourth place.
You're not gonna get money.
Speaker 3: It'd be a moral victory.
Speaker 2: But Tim, I'm asking for you, what would you.
Speaker 5: Do for me, I'd quit? Yeah, right absolutely, Yeah, I'm
there to win money. I'm there to win money. If
I'm not gonna win money and you're offering to just
take me down, I don't have to keep doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still getting paid obviously for being on the show,
so you're still money.
Speaker 5: I mean, like a cash prize at the end. You
know what I'm saying, Like, if I'm fighting over twenty grand,
I'll keep fighting, like I'm gonna I'm gonna make it
up a mountain, fighting for zer, fighting for pride.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not really.
Speaker 2: Personal satisfaction of achieving something. It's not good enough to you.
Speaker 5: That's not an achievement that I place any value on,
you know what I mean, I wouldn't care about that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'd probably be in the same boat.
I think if I knew that I was not going
to be getting any higher than fourth then and I
had done my damnedest to get as far as I could, Like, yeah,
I'm good.
Speaker 2: I I I tell myself. I think I would want
to keep trying just to push myself. I would completely
give up as part of the uh, the competition. I'd
be like, I'm not waitning nothing, but I just want
to try to just keep going. I'm going to take
my time. I'm not going to hurry see if I
can get up to the top of this mountain, just
to be able to stand on top of it and
be like, ah, I fucking climb a mountain. I never
done that before. I probably will never do it again.
But I mean, let's be realistic. If I if I
was doing that, I would I'd be like, I'm fucking cold,
fuck this place.
Speaker 5: I really think that they're thinking I made it as
far as I can make it, Like they're not thinking
I just need two more hours I can get to
the top. I think they're thinking I'm going to fucking
die if I take another step.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe, yeah, I mean, Swane says, but what if
Michaela would not have been able to finish? Yeah, I
mean if Michaela would not have been able to finish.
If if they medically decued her when they did that,
that fit check and they told THEO and Adrian, hey,
all you have to do is make it to the
top of the money and mountain you win money, then yeah,
that would have motivated me. Ten grand. Shit, Yeah, I'll
do this for another two hours if I know that
all I have to do is finish, Like like Devin,
If all I have to do is finish and I
get ten grand, I'll climb a mountain.
Speaker 3: Yeah why not?
Speaker 2: Patty also brought up how come Turbo's vitals never had
to be checked, but they had to check Mikayla's.
Speaker 4: I think Michaela's was more like she like I said,
she looked like a like a baby deer on ice.
Like she the way that she was walking, the way
that her ankles were going in weird ways. She looked
like she was having trouble.
Speaker 5: Also, there are theories that they did do that for Turbo.
We didn't see it, but there's theories that they did
do that and that is what allowed the other teams
to catch up to them.
Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, I you know, I did have that thought
of like did they stop everybody at that checkpoint and
make everybody check to see if they're like how their
vitals were doing, because we saw them like turn the
camera towards the medics and say like, hey, you know,
we're at a high altitude, like we need to make
sure that you're okay. It's it's hard to breathe. So
I do wonder if they had that flashed in my head,
if they did that for everybody. That's interesting that there
was an actual, like well conspiracy about it. But anyway,
so Adrian and THEO have dropped out and we've had
Mikayla and Cedric checked by medics. At this point in time,
Jeremy and Olivia have now passed both the previous third
and second place teams and are now very fast approaching
Turbo and Sydney. They get to a spot there.
Speaker 5: Sh by the way, this is some of the best
camera work we've seen on the challenge. Yeah, like from
their little GoPros or whatever, you can see them, like
from their perspective as to how close they are, and like,
this was really cool. I love to be able to
see them approaching the first place.
Speaker 4: And they had really good drone shots, like overhead shots
of like this is where all four of them are.
You can see them literally next to each other climbing
through some of these prefaces.
Speaker 3: It was great compared to the chance that we've seen before.
Speaker 5: It's like it's clearly spliced together with CGI to make
it look closer than it is. Like these were right
next to each other. We got go pro shots as
people are passing each other. It felt very close and
intimate and kind of cool. I really liked these shots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they should do more shit like that. Yeah, but yeah,
they get up next to each other and then Turbo
and Sydney fall behind. Turbo's talking about how he can't see.
Like they're at twelve four hundred feet at this point
in time. Turbo's talking about how he can't see. You
can see He's like he is very visibly just like
he's beat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he Jearomy says, he looks sixty five years old
as he's passing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he does. He looks like shit, yeah, he does,
looks like up there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And in the next like three hundred or so
feet of elevation, game, Jeromine Olivia pull ahead, and they
pull ahead quickly. They get up to that chest, they
pull out all of their key. The keys were dumb.
There was no point like it was you didn't have
to like solve the puzzle. It was just stick these
fake keys in this chest and pop the chest open.
Speaker 5: And where's TJ? Where the fuck is t J? Where's
the giant check? Yeah, they gotta have a giant check.
They got a real flats.
Speaker 3: There was a little check something.
Speaker 4: We're a little placard saying you've won dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sucks.
Speaker 4: Jeramine Olivia open up the chest and they win. Turber
and Sydney show up probably fifteen minutes later to get
to three hundred feet h Turber Sidney show up next,
and then Cedric and Michaela get to the top. And
as we get to the very end of this, we
see Term get metavaced off the mountain because he is
going hypothermic and he's shaking. Apparently he fell at some
point in time and maybe broke his hand. Yeah, is
that when I heard them? I think I heard them
say that.
Speaker 2: It was like pointing out like multiple He's like, I
think it's I think it's Tia, and I think it's
Tia and fell and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but while he's being metavaced, his talking head
is talking shit about how he's never going to stop
doing the challenge. He's going to do this until he's
fifty five. He's never gonna quit. He's going to come
back stronger every year. Like you can't come back stronger
every year if you don't win every single year and
like completely wipe the floor with everybody because you won
your first season.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Swanny says the helicopter couldn't fly up that high due
to conditions and thin air. Patty agrees, Right, where's TJ
when Sydney gets there, She's like, is this the end?
And I think I would be pissed if I finished
a final in TJ and or a video of TJ.
Speaker 3: Wasn't there even the videos? Bullshit? That season eight to
the videos, No, I want to.
Speaker 4: That season was awful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, TJ being there at the end to give you
the check is part of the finale experience. That's the
only reason this wasn't a wonderful finale climbing up a
mountain like we like to see, but no, TJ, no check.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bull she's got to be up there. He's got
to be like, well, you can't hear me. You have
officially shown that you are a badass and now we
can also call you Challenge champ as you check killed
it and this final was sick.
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll see you again.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's that's the end of the Challenge.
Speaker 2: Thanks everybody, and maybe the Challenge forever. We don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is a great man that Yeah, Honestly, if
if this really is the last season, that's a pretty good,
damn good finale to end on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Good competitors, Yeah, we had we had good competitors. We
had fun things to watch. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: Love that Yearmy's a champ, totally deserves it. He fucking
killed it this season. He is the quintessential Challenge Champion,
Like he's good at everything. He's one of these like
he doesn't have a weakness. Guys, He's like a Landon
and he also seems just like a good pure soul.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like I liked.
Speaker 5: Earmy a lot. Olivia, she's a Challenge champ. Now I
guess I.
Speaker 2: Can take her. She's like, finally I'm a champ and
I'm just like you've been on like four seasons.
Speaker 3: Relax, who cares. I would have much rather had MICHAELA or.
Speaker 5: Sydney be a Challenge champ, But whatever, take Olivia great seasons.
Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about how emotional and tior
Jearimi's confessionals were. I think that's the most I've seen
anyone cry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I fast forward it once. Once I saw the
end of this, I just fast forwarded through the rest.
Speaker 2: He was like I did it, and he's got like
tears streaming down his face.
Speaker 5: Together, Relax, I don't even like it.
Speaker 4: I do wish that it had been a Jerremie and
Sydney team, not a Jeromy and Olivia team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sydney definitely earned it way more than oliviauck Man.
Speaker 4: She just got hosed on. She and Turbo. I mean
they were paired together. They got hosed so many times
in this finale.
Speaker 2: Again, she should have staked her claim. Yeah, she had
her chance. She could have got rid of Turbo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even though like he was a writer, died
for it. Probably she probably would have won if she
had staked her claim on Jerimi.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she still very obviously still had gas in
the tank at the end of day one. I think
she would have beat Olivia with whatever they were doing.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, because I was Turbo
slowan slow the city down, Like there's no question, yep.
Speaker 2: Do we want to go out of our usual order?
And uh, do we have any social media that maybe
would clear some of that stuff up.
Speaker 5: I've been dropping in the stuff that I've read during
the episode, So I don't have anything else to share.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have any social media about this current
season of the challenge. I just have social media about
Johnny Banas.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so we'll do that in a second. Hey,
everybody had every challenge about dot com joined the Facebook group.
I mean you could still join our Patreon. It's going
to be paused for the month of January until we
figure out kind of what is happening. And then yeah,
for those that missed maybe the pre show and weren't
around for the host text thread, because why would you
be That would be weird. There's been discussions about maybe
filling in a gap with Survivor season fifty. And I
know that not everybody likes Chalones likes the Survivor, but
you know it's season fifty. If you were gonna check
it out like as a one off, maybe this would
be the season to do so. And good thing is
our recording schedule wouldn't have to change Survivors on Wednesdays.
Speaker 3: Perfect.
Speaker 5: I'd have to look at the cast list, but I
wonder if any challengers are back on Survivor fifty. Do
you know that I'll the top of your head, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't either. I can look while you're doing Patreon
stuff if you want, Tim, Yeah, please.
Speaker 4: Yeah, We're we're talking about this because it could be
kind of fun. Because Tim, you watch every season of Survivor,
correct every season every so Tim watches every season. Wolfy
kind of dabbles in Survivor and I have never seen
a season so great. Yeah, it'd be. It'd be an
interesting kind of throw us all in there. I would
be I would be the Wolfy in this one, where
like I don't know anything. I don't know the lore
behind a lot of people, I mean, Wolfe nowas the
law about a lot of a lot of the challengers.
But it'd be interesting, Paton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we are pausing it. As Wolfy said, the future
of this show is questionable. It hangs in the balance
of the future of the flagship show. But you can
still join the Patreon for now. I guess it's five
bucks a month, Wolfe. How does it work if you
join the Patreon? Now, do you have access?
Speaker 4: As we pause it, Patty said, or we could go
back to two thousand and nine in our mine.
Speaker 2: Good call back, Patty, there is the you still get
access to stuff I believe. I don't know, all right, Well,
I don't know. I don't know how that works, all right?
Speaker 5: Well, is it worth selling the shit? Probably not? Then
I guess don't join the Patreon.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But we still have names. We're gonna say.
Speaker 5: Because we do, because they are Patreons are patrons and
so we appreciate you.
Speaker 3: So we'll say your names.
Speaker 5: So thank you to Abby, Elena, Alvin, Amanda, Anda, Caroline, Christian, Christopher, Cindy, Derek, Eduardo, Elizabeth, Emily, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie, Justin, Catherine, Lulu, Maverick, Mindy, Patty, Samuel, Scott, Shack,
shake our stand, stove, Taylor and Will.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.
Speaker 3: Thanks everybody.
Speaker 4: We love great appreciation for you, guys. Thank you to
all of our listeners. Honestly, this has been a really
fun show to be a part of, a really fun
podcast to be a part of.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 5: And if forty two goes back, maybe I'm coming back.
If forty two doesn't, Hey, nice talking now.
Speaker 4: Yahnice, maybe we'll be back. Oh hey, Willfee, you wanted
us to remind you to thank someone who visit the patroon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on one seconds, U two contestants from s
River forty nine will fly back. Okay, so I was looking.
Does not appear to be any challengers on this season
fifty of Survivor. There are two people that I definitely recognize.
One is Mike White, who is the creator of White Lotus.
He got his start as a contestant on Survivor and
he's coming back.
Speaker 3: Karl And do you watch White Lotus?
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: Now should It's very good.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you how many times I have told you
guys this.
Speaker 3: I don't want to Survivor.
Speaker 5: People are on White Lotus because of Mike White's connections.
Speaker 3: Show to watch if he like Survivor, get out of here.
Speaker 2: And this doesn't pertain to anybody. I just I don't
know if Tim has looked. But your boy Jonathan's coming back,
which I'm super excited about.
Speaker 3: Love Jonathan.
Speaker 2: It's this big dude that we saw him on Survivor
and we were like, oh shit, if he transitions over
to the challenge, he's gonna murder everybody. Oh Cy, he
never did.
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll just have to do this anyway, whether forty
two comes back or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be fun. Oh I did want to people.
People have been listening to me bitch and moan about
trying to get a new job. Not that I mean
I still have a job, but just I could use
more job market, a new market or a new job.
And I've applied to like five hundred places this this
uh this year, and I've not heard back from a
single one, and it's frustrating. And so Patty, which I
don't know if it's the Patty that's in the chat room,
I'm hoping that did get a hold of me on
LinkedIn and told me that if I saw anything at
her work and or anybody who she has a connection to,
she would introduce me and put in a good word
for me. And I just wanted to tell her I
appreciated that. I didn't take a look. I didn't find
anything that was jumping out of me, but I do
appreciate trying to try to help. She's the only listener
that did so fuck all of you. Patty's the only
cool one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that was it was really cool of you.
Thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2: I took a screenshot and sent it to the other
team and I was like, look out.
Speaker 4: Feel warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 5: Speaking of screenshots, Wolfe, I did not go over any
of those screenshots that you sent to the group chat
when it was me and Ryan housting, because I.
Speaker 3: Thought they were applicable to all of us. I'd say
him for.
Speaker 2: Us, all right, Well, do you want to go over
the fantasy league.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So this is probably the only time I'm going
to do this, but major, major props to mister Wasson.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for finally.
Speaker 4: Finally picking a team that kicked the ship out of
all of the other teams in the most League.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I did not have any winners on my team despite
having so many players, I did not have any winners.
Speaker 3: Right, but I still won the season.
Speaker 4: So at the end of this game, Wolfie is down
to just two players. He ended up with ye me
who won the entire challenge, and Adrian yem. Let's see,
I oh wrong that one. I ended up with Olivia,
just Olivia, who also won the entire.
Speaker 3: Che Yes, so I did not get any winners yep.
Speaker 4: And mister Watson, mister Tim ma'am had THEO, Michayla and Sydney. Yeah,
and ended up just kicking the absolute shit out of us.
You have thirty three hundred points almost thirty four hundred
points to my twenty three hundred and Wolfe's eighteen hundred
pathetic pathetic absolutely spanked us. Well done, sir. It's about
fucking time.
Speaker 5: It is about fucking time. Yes, thanks, thanks.
Speaker 4: You have failed so you've been so far behind last.
Speaker 3: Season, anesthetic.
Speaker 5: It's been absolutely pathetic every other time we played this game.
Speaker 3: This time, yeah, my redemption game, my redemption.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, how did that happen?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: So I just checked the Public League. I finished first
in the Public League.
Speaker 3: Cheater, Peter, cheater.
Speaker 2: So guess what, carl and you get to be on
the show next season?
Speaker 3: No way, number one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't crazy to do that. I thought that
somebody else is gonna be able to pull ahead.
Speaker 2: Chris said. I was so excited that I was on
the Public League last week, but I was pretty sure
the two I had left would not be enough to
stay there. And you were right, Chris.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I only picked. I only put two one or
two people in for last week, so I had a
full compliment this.
Speaker 2: Week, A full compliment.
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, So second place is none of ill business.
Mister Peter b.
Speaker 5: We can't give it to him either. He runs the
fucking site.
Speaker 4: That's a cheating no, I know, So third place if
if we do end up doing another season of the Challenge,
congratulations to Julie's attempted murder, mister Christopher D.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that?
Speaker 3: Chris? Chris?
Speaker 4: Chris is the chat is perfect.
Speaker 2: Lost even though you weren't first, you are still winning.
Speaker 3: Thing. You can come in on the after show. Let's
do that. Perfect that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, coming on the after show. I'm gonna send you
the link, Chris.
Speaker 4: Just in case we don't end up doing another season
then to at least get some benefit. But yeah, so
congratulations Chris. And if we do end up doing a
new season, then you can come in on an episode
on that. Let's see. Uh where are you guys, mister Watson.
Speaker 3: Oh you say it, don't say it.
Speaker 4: You are We're at third place. You were at third place.
You do so well, shut my life. And you didn't
put any You didn't put anybody in the last It happens, right.
Speaker 5: I didn't have any I was out. Yeah, yeah, I knew.
Speaker 4: That release the EPSOM files. Yes, even though it's been
voted for, it still hasn't been released. You dropped nine
points to fourteenth.
Speaker 5: Uh no, it was at third for a second. We
need to stick with it for a hot minute. I
was at third place.
Speaker 4: You the host team. We moved up five spots to sixteenth,
and mister Woolford moved up five spots to twentieth. So
if we If we do end up doing another season,
another new season that has fantasy, we will do the
fantasy teams again. We might change it up so it's
not so difficult that some people don't have to really budget.
Speaker 3: No, I like it. I think that's the fun part.
Speaker 4: I think maybe not quite so close. I give people
enough a few more pits.
Speaker 3: I'll let you make the call.
Speaker 2: Christ Wins, so now where you're going to send the
link to him?
Speaker 3: Discord, I just said it.
Speaker 4: Perfect, So yeah, wait to go, guys. The fantasy the
fantasy games are a lot of fun. I really enjoy them.
It makes watching this show a lot of fun. I mean,
not watching the show isn't a lot of fun sometimes, but.
Speaker 3: The fantasy it does.
Speaker 5: It increases the enjoyment of watching the show for sure,
which anybody should play with.
Speaker 4: Mister Peter B. Thank you very much for putting that
website together. Thank you for having it all calibrated, shit
and do it stuff for us. It's it does make
things very terrible, which if we do end up doing Survivor,
I think he does Survivor in that show, so we
should do. If we do a season of Survivor, we'll
do the Fantasy League for that too. Yep, right, because
that'd be fun. Why not see if me going in
completely blind, not knowing anything about it gives me you.
Speaker 2: Love it, maybe this is like crack. She's gonna become
addicted afterwards to go back and watch all the fifty
seasons you got it, You got.
Speaker 3: It'd be rough.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we said the after show, you asshole.
Speaker 3: Interrupting.
Speaker 4: Well whatever, Hopefully it doesn't suck up the recording. If
it does, it's all your fault.
Speaker 2: But bounced off and bounced back then, Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's true. So social media, Uh, mister Johnny Bananas. So
this this is it crosses over with one of my
other loves, the Bravo World. So one of the people
from Summerhouse in the Bravo World, she had a baby
like seven or eight months ago, and right before she
got pregnant, she and Johnny Bananas had been dating. Well,
Johnny went on a podcast I don't know if it
was his or somebody else's, like a week or so
ago and said something to the effect of like, yeah,
I when I found out that Lindsay was pregnant, I
was waiting for her to call me and be like, hey,
you're the father and you know, to try and draw
attention to himself because that's what Bananas does because he's Tinkerbell.
Uh Well, Lindsay came out on her social media and
was basically said, uh, Johnny, stopped trying to make yourself
relevant with my pregnancy and baby, like you have to
have sex in order to end up conceiving a child,
and we never did that, so it just it made
me laugh.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what he also called the baby ugly? Is
that the same baby?
Speaker 4: I have idea.
Speaker 5: Did he say something like if it was a really
bananas baby, it would be cuter or some shit he
like called the baby.
Speaker 4: I don't know that was a recent thing then, probably,
but I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Cool, pretty cool, you know.
Speaker 5: It sounds like something pretty hilarious and funny.
Speaker 3: He's so cool.
Speaker 5: He's so cool, that guy all right to make fun
of babies and infants and stuff. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: So I do have some uh stop, stop, get out of.
Speaker 4: The The cat just really wants to be around you tonight.
Speaker 2: She keeps pushing my microphone away. So we do have
some screenshot and social media stuff people have said about us,
oh that I collected when we uh maybe insinuated this
might be the last season of the Challenge, and we've
got a bunch of people begging us, begging us not
to leave. And since we love ourselves so much, figure,
let's read some masturbation.
Speaker 3: Guys, here we go in the Facebook.
Speaker 2: That's you, that's your the Facebook group.
Speaker 4: God, yeah, welcome, welcome, Let's go, let's go go.
Speaker 2: We got to return some videotapes in the Challenge Facebook group,
says chairs said, I'm really gonna need you. Guys. Do
not quit if the challenge does. I live for your podcast. However,
regardless if the Challenge ins or not, please please please
add Big Brother Survivor Amazing Races part of your podcast.
I think it would be amazing. Don't leave me all
in caps?
Speaker 4: All right, So let's the Big Brother Survivor and Amazing Race.
How do we combine all three of those and add
a D at the end?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know no.
Speaker 5: One time when we were talking about doing this, and
one on the Amazing Race, willf we throw out we
should call it the Amazing Racist.
Speaker 3: So funny to me and I think about it all
the time. That's so fucking funny.
Speaker 2: We'll be I uh have.
Speaker 3: That's so funny.
Speaker 2: I have no memory of that, and that is the
funniest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 3: I wish I could claim that it's my own joke.
But that's a funny, fucking joke, the amazing racist.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're already challenged, we might as well be there,
all right.
Speaker 2: So this was one about Nanny's issues when uh, it's
Will or whatever, Laurie says, one hundred percent, Wolfy, it's
Nanny's fault. Everything you said is true. So Nannie decides
on something, It's okay. She she is this way every
season and grow up. Emotional offers make you look like
a kid. Whether Will is a jerk besides, is beside
the point she decided to feel guilty and open her
big mouth. That was about her telling Avive, yeah, we're
gonna but her. In hashtag justice for Will, Bob Green says,
I think I was. I was beginning to think I
was an asshole for thinking that Will was right. In
his reaction to Nanni's long confused pause, Thank you, Wolfey.
I agree that Will has some issues. She has, she
had such an easy decision to make in the stress
met or mentally implode. I didn't realize I just I
grabbed all these just because everybody was saying I was right.
Speaker 4: You Yeah, I mean, it's meaning back on that episode,
like it really is. It's surprising that she didn't just
say Jeremy and Olivia. It would have been so much
easier for her just say Jeremy and Olivia. No one
else did just say them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's doing it.
Speaker 4: That's all you to do. You can tell Will Yery
and Olivia, and then Will would say, okay, cool year
me and Olivia, and then all of this shit has
done and you're coming in and it's fine. Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I mean she's stupid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely don't feel that way going into that episode,
But after having the whole conversation around that episode, yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 6: I think it would have been actually tragic had it
cost the elimination of somebody else.
Speaker 3: I just did not care that of Will and of Eve.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh. Stephanie commented, that's twice he got upset when it
made sense, and yet he got the backlash. I think
this should be Nanny's last season for her mental health.
She said herself. She's mentally exhausted. Old school Nanny would
never have told Aviv what they were doing. Will definitely
had the right to be disappointed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of people who keep
coming back who I don't understand why they do, Like
it's so obvious that you don't want to be here anymore,
that it's so obvious that this game is taking a
huge toll on you. Why are you still here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think should only way that she doesn't announce it.
I think she always announces to her friend that that
that's what she's planning on doing. Unless Johnny is her
h her partner who instills in her, she can't say anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I still think that she probably would.
I don't know that she would have told a Vive necessarily,
but I think friends she would have.
Speaker 2: And if I was Nanny, I'd be like, fuck you, Johnny,
you quit when we were both in the final off.
Speaker 4: Yes he did, Yes, he did.
Speaker 2: Jim Woolford, who I don't think we're directly related. Obviously
have to be related somewhere, but we don't know each other.
Speaker 3: So weird commented, so weird that.
Speaker 2: You know he commented, And this was in response to
people telling you stop talking about politics talking about the show.
Jim said, I just want to say I hate your politics.
Just shut up and talk about what I want you
to talk about. Cares that that pedophile in office. I
need you to have no opinion to finish it off.
Yet still.
Speaker 3: All right, I like that start off. Yeah yeah, all right,
good feed.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Nancy on Spotify said Team Brian one, thank you.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Nicole said, I love how you guys always call out
the negative reviews. It's fucking hilarious and you guys are
the best. I love the humor and the satire usually
your platform. I'm here for it. See what I did
there because she's spelled here h E A R and
the All Caps released the Epstein files.
Speaker 4: Yes right, yeah, even though they got voted to be released,
they're still not out.
Speaker 5: They just released new photos and videos today of Epstein Island.
Good continued, they got to go through and redact Trump's
name out of all of them before they release.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 2: If you don't see, just ask all the girls who
were in the Miss teen us A competition and would
comment how he kept walking in their dressing rooms.
Speaker 7: Yeah, announce the dude has admitted to sexual assault, to
walking in on teenagers naked and ship and we're still
arguing as to whether this guy is a fucking bad dude.
Speaker 3: Of course he is. Of course, of course he's really really.
Speaker 4: Like what you're going to be a pedophile? Age age
for children doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're fifteen.
Speaker 4: They weren't like gross five. The fact that that was
even something that was said on national television is just
fucking wild by A's fucking Republican, by the people who
had a huge issue with Pizzagate.
Speaker 3: We're going to see it more.
Speaker 5: I promise we're going to see more people normalizing this bullshit.
Speaker 4: I thought they were supposed to be the party against
pedophiles and they're harboring them.
Speaker 3: Little bit of shocking, but they're fucking hypocrites.
Speaker 5: I know you can't believe that, but I know it's
not real.
Speaker 2: We got two more. Bob says, yeah, guys, figure something out,
in response to us maybe ending the show. Yeah, guys,
figure something out. I've been begging for the return of Survivoredes.
No political would work too uh drunk drunkend and bitching
bitching it. I'm down for it. I ever thought about
rewatching the old Rock of Love or Flavor of Love.
I want to go back. We should for Patreon only
we should go back and do seasons of I Love Money, I.
Speaker 3: Love is so good. It's so good.
Speaker 4: I watched and Flavor of Love and all that, but
and Tila, I didn't say.
Speaker 2: I Love Money was Yeah, it's like the challenge for
VH one Personalities, like early challenge like this, they're not climbing.
Speaker 4: Mike could get.
Speaker 2: Frank the entertainer.
Speaker 3: He's the best, the best, the.
Speaker 2: Only person I didn't have a problem living in his
mom's basement. And then one more, uh So, I put
a call out that people should send us their favorite
negative reviews and then we would talk about them on
the show. Danielle is the only person who took us
up on this, and she said heard the homework about
sending a screenshot of the best negative review and immediately
went looking for this one. It's from years ago, and
I haven't forgotten this person imagining Wolf and Amanda's home
being filled with open peanut butter jars. What an incredibly
specific insults.
Speaker 4: That was one of that episode. That was when I
was still just a listener. I hadn't even chimed down
the on the chat room, nothing like, oh my god,
when I heard that review, I was dying hearing you
guys talk about it. It was so fucking funny. It was
so funny because I think soon after that they were
talking that same person or someone else was talking about
how your house was dirty because you had a chair
with stuff in it in the corner. It just, oh
my god, it was just it was so good. It
was Yeah, it's open peanut butter guards.
Speaker 2: So the review. The review was attached, So here we
go for those of you that weren't around in twenty
eighteen eighteen Jesus. The title of this review is garbage.
One star says this podcast, at times is the worst
podcast I've ever listened to. Fact the host offer a
balance of impressive history recalls from the show's past seasons,
an absolute boring, confused, lazy, garbage takes, and summaries. On
the current episode they.
Speaker 3: Are covering, Yep, nails still right out of the park,
totally accurate.
Speaker 2: The guy not in the married couple is all right,
that's me that was a married couple, are awful. I
have a strong suspicion in their house. Their house is
a mess. Cast member Jordan would probably freak out on
them for how many open jars of peanut butter they
leave out in their kitchen is just not very good.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh that's great. That's great.
Speaker 4: The negative reviews are so good.
Speaker 3: I love them.
Speaker 4: My favorite, such joy of my life.
Speaker 3: They're my favorite.
Speaker 4: Seriously that episode a few episodes ago where we just
read through a bunch of them. I don't think I
have laughed that hard years.
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, all right, well, my wolf, he goes. Hopefully
this doesn't funk up the whole recording.
Speaker 5: Somebody in our discord just posted their favorite review from
a year ago titled no podcast worse four people talking
over each other. I'd rather stand in line at Disney
for a small world listening.
Speaker 3: See a family from the Midwest.
Speaker 5: Our weather mountain dew is better than die at that scene.
Speaker 3: It's great. Oh, I love clever people are with the insults.
It's awesome. Is that Emily my my ex girlfriend in
the chatroom? Emily, Hi, Emily, long time no.
Speaker 4: Your future wife?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Emily in the chat room says, I like when you
rewatch old seasons of the Challenge that you haven't previously
covered too in talking about other things that we could cover,
I like doing the old season the Challenge shop if
we needed to switch things up, or if we wanted to.
Speaker 3: That is Patty is Patty Party King.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't keep track of who everybody is, all the
different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the discorder doesn't have an actual name.
Speaker 4: Well, anything else we need to talk about.
Speaker 2: In the actual show, join us for the after show.
Maybe it's one of our last ones, could be potentially.
Speaker 4: Our last ever.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Christy beer, so I'm not drinking alone.
Speaker 2: Uh, Patty says yep. Pattis says yep, Party King. So
that is Patty Patty fantastic. We love, we love our
bad reviews.
Speaker 4: You're so good?
Speaker 2: All right? Do we need anything else before we transition
over the after show?
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to say thank you. If this
really is our our last episode ever, thank you to
all of our listeners. It's a lot of fun. Thank
you for sticking with Rose.
Speaker 2: How many years sim how many years we've been doing
this bullshit?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 5: I looked it up because I wanted to say the
right thing. I sent you the message that we should
start this podcast in January of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Damn we are.
Speaker 5: We are a month away from nine fucking years of
this podcast. Our first episode.
Speaker 3: I've been no clue.
Speaker 2: So it's Amanda lepisode about three.
Speaker 3: Years yeah, twenty two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because we.
Speaker 2: Just passed we just passed three years of Amanda seeing
a dirty whore everybody.
Speaker 4: Uh, he really wants us to be friends face.
Speaker 2: Directory becauso draw our Patreon for whatever reason you would
want to do that, and uh yeah, I guess that's
it for this episode of Challenge.
Speaker 3: This was Brian, Big Uncle, Sweet.
Speaker 4: Te J, carl and san Diego, and our special guest,
Hey Chris.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: As t J has said many times, you're definitely a badass.
We're definitely gonna see you again.
Speaker 4: Ch