Speaker 1: It's nice eyes unelling Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about you, folks, but I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed that last hour. I didn't have a chance probably
Speaker 2: to wrap it as well as I could, except to
Speaker 2: tell you that the book is Legal Gladiator, The Life
Speaker 2: of Alan Dershowitz by Solomon Schmidt. A brag on this
Speaker 2: kid a little bit. He's twenty one years old. He
Speaker 2: was homeschooled by his parents, grew up outside of Buffalo,
Speaker 2: New York. He has eight self published books. These are
Speaker 2: self published called history Bytes, and you go to historybyites
Speaker 2: dot com and it's like small little stories of history.
Speaker 2: He apparently has some sort of a podcast channel in
Speaker 2: which he he talks to young younger students. He's a
Speaker 2: he is a student at the Soon New York University,
Speaker 2: and I'm a Paul. I am just amazed, not a pauled.
Speaker 2: I'm amazed that he could write a book of this
Speaker 2: caliber in depth, and to think that your first book,
Speaker 2: at twenty one, you've interviewed all of these people. The
Speaker 2: list is just extraordinary. I mean, Mike Tyson, O J. Simpson,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Jared Kushner, RFK Junior on and
Speaker 2: on and on the list goes. So as I say,
Speaker 2: I would love to see where this young man is
Speaker 2: twenty years from now, thirty years from now, I think
Speaker 2: that he is a prodigy. And as Harvey Silverglade said,
Speaker 2: this is a prodigy writing a book about a prodigy.
Speaker 2: So I enjoyed that hour. If you missed it, you
Speaker 2: can go as you can go to any of our
Speaker 2: hours a night Side on Demand, Rob will post our programs,
Speaker 2: all of our hours in podcast form, And for those
Speaker 2: of you who aren't familiar with night Side and Demand,
Speaker 2: it's a very easy website to get familiar with because
Speaker 2: Rob this Morning, meaning this morning coming up in a
Speaker 2: couple of hours. All of tonight's shows will be posted
Speaker 2: in reverse order, So the show I'm doing right now
Speaker 2: will be the first one eleven, the next will be
Speaker 2: the ten, the nine, and the eight, and then the
Speaker 2: next one after that will be Wednesday Nights eleven. So
Speaker 2: they're easy to find. They're forty two minutes, So instead
Speaker 2: of listening to out the entire hour with the news inserts,
Speaker 2: the weather inserts, and the advertishments.
Speaker 3: You have the entire hour in about forty two minutes.
Speaker 2: And more and more people we have sixty seventy eighty,
Speaker 2: sometimes as many as ninety thousand people listening on any
Speaker 2: given night, not on a given night, over a given month.
Speaker 2: So there are a lot of people who who are
Speaker 2: getting up relatively early in the morning and they can't
Speaker 2: afford to stay up till ten or eleven at night,
Speaker 2: and as a consequence, they'll be listening on the way
Speaker 2: to work. So I commend it to all of you,
Speaker 2: and I thank Harvey Silverglate for introducing me to Solomon Schmidt,
Speaker 2: and I thank Solomon Schmid for having joined us. And
Speaker 2: I'm just going to take if you'd like to comment
Speaker 2: on the last hour. I'm going to take a phone
Speaker 2: call or two, and then I'll figure out what we
Speaker 2: will do for the balance of the program. I will
Speaker 2: remind you that tomorrow night we will do at eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock to more night, which is our twentieth hour, our
Speaker 2: snap pole of the month, we do a snap pole.
Speaker 2: We started this process, this practice in March of this year,
Speaker 2: on the last twentieth hour on a Friday night. We
Speaker 2: do twentieth hours only on Friday nights, So tomorrow night
Speaker 2: will be the twenty seventh, but it's the last Friday night.
Speaker 2: Everyone has a hall passed. So even if you've called
Speaker 2: in this week, or if you're going to call in tonight,
Speaker 2: you're able to call in tomorrow night and just tell
Speaker 2: us is will it be Trump or will it be Harris.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a little brief history of how the
Speaker 2: vote has gone in March, April, May, June.
Speaker 3: July, and August.
Speaker 2: So this will be in effect, I believe, our seventh month,
Speaker 2: and we'll do a final one the last Friday in October.
Speaker 2: I don't have my calendar in front of me, so
Speaker 2: I'm not sure of the date, but I know that
Speaker 2: the election is on November fifth, which means the last
Speaker 2: Friday in November. I'm guessing that means November first is
Speaker 2: a Friday, the second, and the third, the fourth, and
Speaker 2: the fifth, So we will have our last twentieth hour
Speaker 2: in October on Friday whatever that would be before I'm
Speaker 2: a little tired of the math here, probably the twenty
Speaker 2: fifth and twenty fifth. Yeah, I did that in my head,
Speaker 2: and Rob backed me up on that in the meantime.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, let me go right back to the calls,
Speaker 2: and I want to welcome back one of my favorite
Speaker 2: callers Laurie in Ohio saying she has no power. Laurie,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 4: And I I tell me.
Speaker 2: This, this this tropical storm has already impacted Idaho, Idaho.
Speaker 4: Thank you. No, no, it's not. But we are dark
Speaker 4: and cold with no water and I don't know. Well,
Speaker 4: first of all, I was kind of hoping I could
Speaker 4: get I couldn't get in the in the last hour
Speaker 4: for that last call. But that was an amazing call.
Speaker 4: What a great young man and the best things to
Speaker 4: end it with Harvey.
Speaker 2: He just yeah, Hobby put the ribbon on it, as
Speaker 2: he always does. I'm I mean, he's Harvey. You could
Speaker 2: do you could do a biography of Harvey in terms
Speaker 2: of the cases he has covered as well, and I'm
Speaker 2: not going to go into the specifics, but his relationship
Speaker 2: and friendship with drschwitz Is is so close and so meaningful.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At one point during Allan's career, he was he was
Speaker 2: dealing with a medical uh issue for a family member
Speaker 2: which was serious and he he basically asked Harvey to
Speaker 2: take over his his his caseload, which and uh well,
Speaker 2: Alan literally made a personal search of the country. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to go into what it was or whom
Speaker 2: it was for, But it was a close family member
Speaker 2: and a serious medical emergency which ended well. But Alan
Speaker 2: actually went around the country making sure that that the
Speaker 2: member of his family was treated by the by the
Speaker 2: proper doctors or doctor or doctors.
Speaker 3: And again it was.
Speaker 2: Just as time waits for no person, courts tend not
Speaker 2: to wait for anyone. And so Harvey was handling his
Speaker 2: caseload for some period of time. And it's was. It was,
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. So how'd you lose power?
Speaker 2: Would you have a snowstorm or something out there?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 4: Well no, So the thing where we are is pretty
Speaker 4: well for we've got so many mountains around here that
Speaker 4: we really don't get a lot of powerful windstorms on
Speaker 4: it because the mountains shear them before they get here.
Speaker 4: And so yesterday afternoon there was there were all these thunderstorms.
Speaker 4: They were coming up from just a certain perfect way
Speaker 4: from the southwest. And you know, I my weather geek,
Speaker 4: so I checked the radar and the.
Speaker 7: Things lit up.
Speaker 4: We've got reds and greens and all these colors, and
Speaker 4: it's down places where and apparently there was a huge
Speaker 4: dust storm and spoken yesterday afternoon I was not aware
Speaker 4: of that. I don't know where that came from, but
Speaker 4: the things are coming through, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: all these storms are lined up and just chugging our
Speaker 4: way and they're not dissipating. And this thing came up,
Speaker 4: came right across from where we were, and we were
Speaker 4: actually under the peak if you've ever seen that in
Speaker 4: the radar, which is worse than the red. And yeah,
Speaker 4: so this thing came charging through and I was, I mean,
Speaker 4: I haven't experienced a storm like this before. I was
Speaker 4: starting to close windows because it was starting to rain,
Speaker 4: and the wind was coming up and then the lightning
Speaker 4: all so it was really close, and I just said,
Speaker 4: you know, to show myself, like this is kind of
Speaker 4: one of these things where I probably shouldn't be standing
Speaker 4: near a window. We have the sliding windows, and so
Speaker 4: I closed the one in the one room and I
Speaker 4: turned around, and all of a sudden, the wind shifted
Speaker 4: from west to east and it's coming through the kitchen
Speaker 4: windows and blowing papers and stuff all over the place.
Speaker 4: So we had to close that. The wind was so
Speaker 4: loud I didn't hear. We had three pine trees snap
Speaker 4: off behind us. I didn't even hear the snap, I
Speaker 4: felt the thud, I closed the kitchen door, it came
Speaker 4: back and around to the other room, and I've got
Speaker 4: pine tree boughs in front of my window.
Speaker 6: And so this was.
Speaker 4: All across It went from Spokane all the way up
Speaker 4: across the northern Panhandle. There are like ten thousand people
Speaker 4: out of power. Problem is, we're proud of a co
Speaker 4: op that has connections to two of the hydro dams
Speaker 4: hearing some Wessons. So the hydro was lost all their stuff,
Speaker 4: and so until they get their stuffed, the local co
Speaker 4: op can't get their distribusion out again. So I had
Speaker 4: to spend twenty eight hours and yeah, just wind, but it's
Speaker 4: so rare for a storm to come up that way.
Speaker 3: What's the prognosis here?
Speaker 4: They don't even have one yet.
Speaker 2: So it's not like we'll have a power on in
Speaker 2: twenty four hours or forty eight hours.
Speaker 4: No, Because our local company is dependent on the two hydros.
Speaker 4: Hydro dams their powered, they're dams. They've got to get
Speaker 4: all their stuff fixed before our local place can even
Speaker 4: figure out how they're going to get their redistribution lines.
Speaker 4: And I obviously they've had plenty of time to clean
Speaker 4: up we had. There were trees down everywhere from Focanne
Speaker 4: all the way up through almost the Canadian border into Montana. Amazing.
Speaker 4: I mean storms don't usually come up through that corridor
Speaker 4: very often, and this was seventy mile an hour winds.
Speaker 4: We're a clocked in the town next to ours. It
Speaker 4: was I've never been to a storm like that. My
Speaker 4: mind is so weird.
Speaker 8: Wo.
Speaker 4: But in the meantime, it's cold and dark, and I
Speaker 4: don't have water because it's a well.
Speaker 3: Do you have a generator?
Speaker 4: No, not in this slime. Renting a small house here,
Speaker 4: so no no generator here.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 8: We'll do.
Speaker 4: I grew up in northern New England.
Speaker 3: Okay, I get that. But let me.
Speaker 2: Do you have any places in town where you can
Speaker 2: seek some shelter if.
Speaker 8: It really does get Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Well, assuming everybody else in the county hasn't gone there
Speaker 4: there motels around that I could probably fortually. It's not
Speaker 4: the middle of the winter, and it was almost eighty
Speaker 4: yesterday so it was warm.
Speaker 3: But how often do you lose power up there?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 4: This is the first time that it's been more than
Speaker 4: a couple of hours.
Speaker 8: Okay, Usually it's a light well, in this.
Speaker 4: In this in the winter, it could be snow, but
Speaker 4: in the summer maybe it's a lightning striker tree falling.
Speaker 4: And this is the first time it's been this long.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll keep your company.
Speaker 4: I was calling early because my phone was gonna die.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: I've got to go into the garage and plug it
Speaker 4: into the car charge.
Speaker 2: Well, remember tomorrow night, you're morether welcome than at eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock hour if you want to participate. That's right, all right, final, well,
Speaker 2: not a final.
Speaker 3: This our penelt them.
Speaker 4: And snappole penultimate exactly.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite words to me too, once.
Speaker 4: I finally figured out what it really meant.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's easy, penultimate. That's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The ultimate, of course, is m Absolutely, you dropped out
Speaker 2: at a cocktail party and people will be turning their
Speaker 2: heads and saying, oh, that person must be pretty smart
Speaker 2: over there. You know a couple of words here there,
Speaker 2: and you get a couple of Latin phrases, and you're
Speaker 2: all set. It's a copy DM. You know, it's something
Speaker 2: like that, or ship's a local.
Speaker 4: Everyone knows that now because of that movie.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I get it. But you know, well,
Speaker 2: you can find a couple more. Don't worry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Lauri.
Speaker 2: Best to stay warm.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks for taking me right off the top bike.
Speaker 2: Bet you, thank you, thank you so much. Laurie's Laurie
Speaker 2: is the best. That's one of my one of my
Speaker 2: really favorite callers. Let me take a quick break. If
Speaker 2: you want to react to Solomon Schmidt.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how deep I want to go into something.
Speaker 2: I might even just open this. So what do you think,
Speaker 2: Rob want to give it? Open lines just for the
Speaker 2: fun of it. Let's go. Yeah, we got forty minutes left,
Speaker 2: so let's go open lines. You can talk about anything
Speaker 2: you want. Okay, we very rarely do this. I probably
Speaker 2: should do it more often. Uh, and I should do
Speaker 2: it so that people have an opportunity. But anything you
Speaker 2: want to comment on, anything that moves your spirit at
Speaker 2: this point six seven two four ten thirty six one
Speaker 2: seven nine three one ten thirty we'll be back on
Speaker 2: Night's side. You can react to the Solomon Schmidt interview
Speaker 2: on his book Legal Guardian. Remember the gentleman you just heard,
Speaker 2: he's twenty one years old. That's what to me is astonishing.
Speaker 2: And if you saw this book. It is when I
Speaker 2: use the word tome, it is well researched heavily. It's
Speaker 2: four hundred pages and one hundred pages of footnotes and citations.
Speaker 2: It is again it looks like it's it reads like
Speaker 2: a book, easy to read, good writer. But it would
Speaker 2: appear when you look at it, you say, this has
Speaker 2: to be the equivalent of a doctoral thesis at Harvard,
Speaker 2: Yale or Penn. Amazing, amazing. But thank you Harvey Silverglate,
Speaker 2: thank you Solomon Schmid, and thank you to those of
Speaker 2: you who would like to join the conversation. I got
Speaker 2: wide open lines. Whatever you want to talk about. You
Speaker 2: want to make a recommendation for the type of issue
Speaker 2: that we haven't covered recently that you'd like to see
Speaker 2: us cover, or maybe an issue we've never covered, that's fine,
Speaker 2: or any comment you want to make. We're going open lines.
Speaker 2: After we talked to Pete in South Carolina coming back,
Speaker 2: he wants to talk about the last hour back on
Speaker 2: night Side. Pete, you stay right there. We got you
Speaker 2: your first up on the other other side of the break.
Speaker 2: Six months seven two, five, four, ten thirty, six months
Speaker 2: seven nine, three, one, ten thirty. You know what you'll do.
Speaker 2: If you don't call now, and you're going to be
Speaker 2: trying to call it ten minutes of midnight, the lines
Speaker 2: would be full.
Speaker 3: Trust me. Let's do it. Get it done right now.
Speaker 3: Dial away.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Pete in South Carolina. Pete, welcome
Speaker 2: back to night said, how are you, sir?
Speaker 7: I'm fine, Dan, and I just want to say thank
Speaker 7: you for what a great hour it really was. It
Speaker 7: went by too quick. But I do want to tell
Speaker 7: you two things.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 7: Number one, I ordered the book for myself and I'm
Speaker 7: sending the book to my nephew who's a law student
Speaker 7: at Drexel in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Great idea.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was really impressed. I hope you can get
Speaker 7: him back again some other time. And just he was
Speaker 7: really cool for twenty one years old. I know how
Speaker 7: old you are. You know how old I am. And
Speaker 7: I can't believe it. Like you said, I read it.
Speaker 7: So it's a doctoral thesis.
Speaker 2: It is, But it's a doctoral thesis that's readable. That's
Speaker 2: the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 3: It is a very.
Speaker 2: Readable he writes, Well, he was homeschooled, He's completed a
Speaker 2: couple of years of college, and he actually has stopped
Speaker 2: his college education in order to write this book. He
Speaker 2: just immersed himself at here. And when you think about
Speaker 2: the people that he was able to talk to on
Speaker 2: meet personally in this pursuit of this book got me,
Speaker 2: it's Mike Tyson, O. J. Simpson, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: and when he was smart enough, he was smart enough
Speaker 2: when I asked him how he got to Trump. It
Speaker 2: was Ted Cruz that got him to Donald Trump. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, Cruise had work this magic, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: and he's he's he's recently tried to He actually reached out,
Speaker 2: he told me, and I should if I should say
Speaker 2: this on me.
Speaker 3: He reached out to JK.
Speaker 2: Rowling and actually conversation with her, and she apparently is
Speaker 2: so private.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: She she loved liked talking to him, but he'd done
Speaker 2: some research with some of her relatives. I guess she
Speaker 2: is very much a mystery in terms of her background.
Speaker 2: You know, the woman who wrote Harry Potter. I think
Speaker 2: everyone was the name just the interesting guy, interesting young guy.
Speaker 2: And you and I obviously am much further down the
Speaker 2: track of life than him. So we will never where
Speaker 2: he's going to end up unless we live to you know,
Speaker 2: we're one.
Speaker 3: Hundred and thirty or something.
Speaker 7: But well, and we could only hope.
Speaker 3: No, if he keeps his head on his shoulders.
Speaker 2: And the bookstore Barry from Norwell, who owns a great
Speaker 2: bookstore in Norwell, he's going to set up a signing
Speaker 2: for him. And I heard that during the newscast. I
Speaker 2: said to Solomon, you should call the the the Harvard
Speaker 2: Bookstore in you.
Speaker 8: Know, in Harvard.
Speaker 7: I would love to get there, but right now I'm
Speaker 7: trying to see if I can get out of South
Speaker 7: Carolina by after Yeah.
Speaker 2: What are you guys looking at down there? What are
Speaker 2: you buckled down, buttoned up for.
Speaker 3: The night or one?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Diane, Diane and I are in great shape. We
Speaker 7: did the the you know, the grocery store thing in
Speaker 7: milk and bread and twin you know that, and we're good.
Speaker 7: But we have a lot of wind right now, and
Speaker 7: the way the rain is coming in like waves, I mean,
Speaker 7: and you can hear it on the roof and it's
Speaker 7: a nice bitter patter, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 7: it sounds like somebody's dropping a load of rock on
Speaker 7: your roof.
Speaker 2: But where I am here, uh is it happens to
Speaker 2: be raining, but it's a different rain than what you're
Speaker 2: dealing with. Do you have a generator or do you
Speaker 2: do you run the risk.
Speaker 7: Of No, We're we're pretty well hunkered with. We're in
Speaker 7: a fifty five plus community and all of our power
Speaker 7: and everything is underground, so we should be a good shape.
Speaker 7: I mean, I've been here eleven years and we've only
Speaker 7: lost power for four hours. And that was a hurricane
Speaker 7: Matthew back in sixteen.
Speaker 3: Remember that one.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that was that was a tough one. But anyway,
Speaker 7: I let you go.
Speaker 2: You got to keep keep the company through the storm.
Speaker 7: And uh absolutely, I wouldn't go anywhere else. Dance. I mean,
Speaker 7: I'm watching that. I'm also watching the Doctors play, uh
Speaker 7: uh Los Angeles on for my baseball fix for today
Speaker 7: because the Phillies aren't playing. He hasn't done well tonight
Speaker 7: at all yet, but he's still it's like the fifth
Speaker 7: or sixth inning right now. But I'll tell you I
Speaker 7: watched that other game a couple of nights ago when
Speaker 7: he had the three home runs to ten RBIs to
Speaker 7: two stolen bases, right and it was like everybody said,
Speaker 7: it was one of the best baseball games ever played.
Speaker 2: Well, one man the Red Sox for his baseman, Cass,
Speaker 2: had a good night. He had three home runs and
Speaker 2: seven RB.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I always love to watch the Yankees in Boston. They
Speaker 7: somehow just put on good games. It's like the Phillies
Speaker 7: and the Mets, you know, absolutely, But anyway.
Speaker 2: I'm intense dislike I won't say hatred, but intenseslike. And
Speaker 2: every once in a while, every once in a while
Speaker 2: pitcher throws a brushback pitch, yeah, and that always adds
Speaker 2: a little both. That's some stuff with Baltimore this year.
Speaker 7: So right, that's you know, old school baseball that you
Speaker 7: and I are like used to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't want to be standing in these
Speaker 2: days when somebody buzzes at ninety.
Speaker 7: You know. And I know you played sports. I played sports,
Speaker 7: but I can't. I don't think I could stand in
Speaker 7: there when somebody's throwing something at me at one hundred
Speaker 7: miles an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And somebody threw one the other night, one
Speaker 2: hundred and five and uh struck out the Cardiado, the
Speaker 2: oriole and he's just he admired the pitch. Looked and
Speaker 2: just kind of shook his head and well, you think
Speaker 2: it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Chapman, but it's one of these flamethrowers in the.
Speaker 7: National Yeah, but you think you know, by the time
Speaker 7: the pitcher releases the ball, he's not sixty six feet away,
Speaker 7: he's like maybe sixty eight.
Speaker 2: Well, you actually, to be really honest with you, they're
Speaker 2: a lot closer than that, with these guys who are
Speaker 2: six four.
Speaker 3: Six ' five. Yeah, you stretch out.
Speaker 2: The release point is probably fifty five feet away when
Speaker 2: you think about it.
Speaker 7: Well, one of these days when I you know, next spring,
Speaker 7: you'll do your baseball show and we can go at
Speaker 7: it together for a long time.
Speaker 2: You got it, Pete, Stay warm, stay dry, stay warm,
Speaker 2: Say hi to your wife.
Speaker 7: Okay, I will, and I'll be in touch when when
Speaker 7: I need to, when I want to.
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks, pay every time, Thanks much.
Speaker 2: Tonight six one seven thirty six one seven nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. Give me an open line opportunity. I
Speaker 2: know many of you have always complained and said, hey,
Speaker 2: let's do over line some night. We got thirty minutes. Uh,
Speaker 2: could we could talk about Eric Adams in New York.
Speaker 2: That's really the only other big story today, and I'm
Speaker 2: more than happy to talk about it. It looks to me,
Speaker 2: uh and again, I haven't read the indictment yet. It
Speaker 2: looks to me that Adams probably has some serious problems here.
Speaker 2: But I suspect that there's a lot of these politicians
Speaker 2: who at some point have accepted a bump up on
Speaker 2: a plane, and it gets It's interesting who gets prosecuted
Speaker 2: and who doesn't. But I don't want to open up
Speaker 2: that can of worms. If you want to comment on it,
Speaker 2: and if you're from New York, love to know what
Speaker 2: you think or whatever you want to talk about. Between
Speaker 2: now in midnight, I'm game. I hope you are as well.
Speaker 2: I got some open lines six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four to ten thirty and six one seven, nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. They will fill up and you'll be locky.
Speaker 2: You'll be you'll be getting a busy signal. So din
Speaker 2: a way coming back on night.
Speaker 1: Sent with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, back to the calls we go. We go
Speaker 2: to Joe in Belmont. Joe, You're next night Side, Welcome back, Joe.
Speaker 3: How are you tonight?
Speaker 5: Good Dan, I'd like to ask you two questions. Do
Speaker 5: you agree with our founding fathers that we should have
Speaker 5: a militia.
Speaker 3: We do have a militia. It's called the US military.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 5: I mean like ifs say the Republican Party or the
Speaker 5: Democratic Party got too corrupt and we had the militia
Speaker 5: to overthrow it.
Speaker 2: No, I don't I think that we have a militia.
Speaker 2: We have the US military.
Speaker 5: Uh what about on the National News when they talked
Speaker 5: about the New Hampshire and the Montana militia, about the
Speaker 5: federal government breaking up breaking up those two training camps.
Speaker 2: Well, if people, if people want to go in the
Speaker 2: woods and play soldier or all of that, they can
Speaker 2: do that. If they at some point find out that
Speaker 2: they are conspiring to do something that's illegal, then at
Speaker 2: that point the government has a right to uh to
Speaker 2: to indict and arrest and if they can convict. But
Speaker 2: we have I mean, the militia is in many respects,
Speaker 2: the National Guard is the is the descendant of the
Speaker 2: militia when you think when you look at it, historically
Speaker 2: Massachusetts has a National Guard. The National Guard traces it's
Speaker 2: founding here in Massachusetts to Lexington and conquered.
Speaker 5: But Dan, what are we supposed to do if our
Speaker 5: Republicans Democrats get too corrupt, can we have a revolution?
Speaker 3: No? I think what you do is your vote amount
Speaker 3: of office?
Speaker 5: Well what if what if they have too much power?
Speaker 5: How can you vote amount of office?
Speaker 2: Because you have Again, Joe, I don't want to do
Speaker 2: constitutional law with you. But but if there is a
Speaker 2: pre who is corrupt, that's why you have the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: We've had presidents who have been impeached. We now have
Speaker 2: a president who was tried and convicted in some courts.
Speaker 2: Whether you agree or not, we have the son of
Speaker 2: the President of the United States who's facing a jail
Speaker 2: sentence potentially has been convicted in two courts, one in
Speaker 2: California and one in Delaware. I think we are a
Speaker 2: far cry from from being a corrupt nation. And I
Speaker 2: think that it kind of gets a little crazy talk
Speaker 2: when because at that point, who decides what militia gets
Speaker 2: to rule?
Speaker 3: Joe?
Speaker 2: I mean, you could have one militia in New Hampshire
Speaker 2: and one militia in Montana. They might see the world
Speaker 2: totally differently. Then we're going to have a fight between
Speaker 2: militia from now. I think that's crazy talk, Joe, And
Speaker 2: I'm serious think I think you got to think it
Speaker 2: through a little further.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe some of your callers could call up.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, they could call up. You don't mean, Joe.
Speaker 2: I'll always answer your question honestly. And I just think
Speaker 2: that the idea of people running around in the woods.
Speaker 2: Let him join the military. The military will give him uniforms,
Speaker 2: they'll give him training, they'll give him weapons.
Speaker 3: They'll go somebody.
Speaker 5: Let's let somebody call up who doesn't sound as conspiratorial
Speaker 5: as me.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, fear enough, Joe. I'm glad you
Speaker 2: said it, not me. Thanks Joe, have a great night,
Speaker 2: good night. All right, thank you, Joe. Let me go
Speaker 2: to Will in Long Island. Will as you're next to.
Speaker 8: Night side, Joe, you just got you. Wish you got
Speaker 8: that guy. Because Dan, I vehemently disagree with you. In
Speaker 8: some areas, this happens to be one of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me, tell me what the solution is.
Speaker 8: I am not I'm not condoning or saying that violence
Speaker 8: or civil wars on the horizon because people that cavalierly
Speaker 8: talk about that have no idea what it means. Okay,
Speaker 8: there is no Mason Dixon line. You're on that side
Speaker 8: on on the other side, a civil war in this country,
Speaker 8: they would be not only ugly and horrible. You would
Speaker 8: starve if everything would cease, but we'd probably be attacked
Speaker 8: by foreign enemies while that were to go on. Okay,
Speaker 8: it would look something like January sixth, but with guns
Speaker 8: capital scenes around the country.
Speaker 2: It would be it would be a national we would
Speaker 2: agree to national suicide.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're not gonna shoot your neighbor or your friends
Speaker 8: for disagreeing on politics, Okay. The communists and the Antifa
Speaker 8: are not going to go out and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: have a fight with the right wing proud boys and
Speaker 8: those militias. Okay, But I do disagree with you that
Speaker 8: the militia is the military. Okay, that's actually the opposite.
Speaker 8: The state and the in the federal military are actually
Speaker 8: the opposite of the militia. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 8: defined in the District of Columbia vs. Heller, the broad
Speaker 8: definition of the militias we the people. Okay. As a
Speaker 8: matter of fact, it's it's pertinent in order to have
Speaker 8: that definition in order to keep the second people.
Speaker 2: And the problem with your argument, Will, respectfully, is that
Speaker 2: the people get a chance to vote every two years
Speaker 2: for members of Congress, every four years for president. I
Speaker 2: know that there are people who felt the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: election somehow didn't come out the way they wanted it,
Speaker 2: and that they've.
Speaker 3: Been suspicious ever since.
Speaker 2: I pray to God that the twenty twenty four election
Speaker 2: is decisive. I hope it's not close, because if it
Speaker 2: is close, whoever loses is going to claim there's going
Speaker 2: to be some people say, well, it's fixed.
Speaker 3: I would like to get us to either.
Speaker 2: An election on the scale of Lyndon Johnson winning handily
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty four or Ronald Reagan twenty years later
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four handling.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just disputing what I believe the militia is, Okay,
Speaker 8: what I believe is necessary if our government.
Speaker 3: So tell me what you think should happen. Okay, should
Speaker 3: we start?
Speaker 8: I don't think right now, I don't think anything should happen.
Speaker 8: And as a matter of fact, what happened in the election.
Speaker 8: First off, I believe that election. You know, baseball is
Speaker 8: not in America's pastime. Election medaling is We election medal
Speaker 8: in other countries. We election medal around the world, and
Speaker 8: we do it in our own country too. Okay, So
Speaker 8: if you think we have fair elections here, if you
Speaker 8: think what happened with Jeb Bush and Florida and throwing
Speaker 8: out ballots until somebody became the president was a fair election,
Speaker 8: I would disagree. If it's been going on since Jack
Speaker 8: Kennedy was stuff in ballots for a son with the mafia,
Speaker 8: and it's been going on since we were grabbing people
Speaker 8: outside of polling stations into seven eighteen hundreds until I'm
Speaker 8: going and vote again. This is nothing new in America.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 8: The problem is we don't have a mechanism in the
Speaker 8: United States Constitution that if Donald Trump even did prove
Speaker 8: that there was fraud to the excess that it could
Speaker 8: have changed the election. First off, you don't have enough time.
Speaker 8: Let's start with that. And number two, there's no mechanism
Speaker 8: to make the other guy, the president like do over.
Speaker 8: There's no Doover mechanism them in the constitution. So the
Speaker 8: fact is it was over. There was nothing Pence could
Speaker 8: have done. All legal scholars have agreed that it's largely
Speaker 8: ceremonial that that you know, startifying the election. That's it,
Speaker 8: it's over, it's done, and then.
Speaker 2: The election technically is over. When when the states convene
Speaker 2: on a specific date in early December, and then they
Speaker 2: meet at.
Speaker 8: Noon and they put forth their capitals.
Speaker 2: And they they show up.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the here's the problem. Okay.
Speaker 2: If Trump had turned around in twenty twenty and said, okay,
Speaker 2: I really doubt that this was fair, but I have
Speaker 2: to accept what the results appear to be. I might
Speaker 2: not like it. If he did what al Gore did
Speaker 2: in two thousand. I think that Donald Trump would have
Speaker 2: been an odd unfavored to be elected in twenty twenty and.
Speaker 8: There were an agreement. We're in one hundred percent agreement
Speaker 8: because he needed to realize, regardless of what you think,
Speaker 8: he could have pursued at least trying to prove that
Speaker 8: there was fraud in the elections. I mean, because every
Speaker 8: time we talk about this, you know, I hear a
Speaker 8: lot of people say, oh, well, you know, the cases
Speaker 8: would dismiss lack of evidence. There hasn't been one case
Speaker 8: dismissed lack of evidence. You know this the procedural standing issues,
Speaker 8: things like that, but none of them, nobody ever said
Speaker 8: there's no evidence that there's literally thousands of affidavids around
Speaker 8: the country. Those are eyewitness testimony. People are in death
Speaker 8: row with less evidence than that.
Speaker 2: So because there's not a single case that I have seen,
Speaker 2: maybe you could point to me where there was a
Speaker 2: presentation or there were some crazy news conferences that Rudy Juliet.
Speaker 8: Never got there. What they never got there, the cases
Speaker 8: would dismiss procedurally.
Speaker 3: Saying is that.
Speaker 2: If the cases would not have been dismissed procedurally, if
Speaker 2: they there was some proof placed in the court of
Speaker 2: public opinion, in which you have Republican states will hold
Speaker 2: on for sake. You have Republican states like Georgia, where
Speaker 2: you have Governor Kemp, who now has turned around and
Speaker 2: said going to he's endorsing Donald Trump. Kemp turned out
Speaker 2: to be a person of integrity. I'm sure that he
Speaker 2: did not vote for Joe Biden, but he believed that
Speaker 2: the election was run correctly in the state of Georgia.
Speaker 2: That's what the constitution says. The election rules are made
Speaker 2: up by each of the states. Now, if there was
Speaker 2: any clear evidence of fraud, I never saw it. Maybe
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 3: I never saw it.
Speaker 8: Dan. There there are people that are out there speaking
Speaker 8: right now on for the past four years on YouTube Facebook,
Speaker 8: everywhere else that have signed out for Davids that said
Speaker 8: they watched people lock them out of polls and were
Speaker 8: not allowed to watch what was going on behind the curtain.
Speaker 8: And it's not one person, and it's thousands of people.
Speaker 2: Will. Will, the one example that I know of is
Speaker 2: what was what happened in Philadelphia?
Speaker 3: Okay, But again here's the thing. Will.
Speaker 2: As much as I said open lines, I think it's
Speaker 2: counterproductive for us to try to relitigate something that cannot
Speaker 2: be relitigated.
Speaker 8: I don't dam This is a constant theme. You know,
Speaker 8: this is a constant theme. You wonder where this came from?
Speaker 8: Where did this, oh, the election was state come from?
Speaker 8: I don't know. I spent four years to Democrats telling
Speaker 8: me Russian collusions, fake elections, Donald Trump's not a real president.
Speaker 8: And then when we turn around and say, hey you cheated,
Speaker 8: they said, what do you mean? How dare you question
Speaker 8: the integrity of American elections? It's almost preposterous.
Speaker 2: Will, We're gonna we're going to agree to disagree in
Speaker 2: this one. And we've gone about eight minutes, actually seventy
Speaker 2: to thirty seconds, and I'm up on my past my
Speaker 2: forty five breaks.
Speaker 3: So I gotta I gotta run, but I inspect your intellect.
Speaker 2: I understand you're saying it with complete, complete passion, but
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, if you're looking to I think
Speaker 2: I know who you're going to support. I don't know
Speaker 2: that your argument here changes one person's mind. And I
Speaker 2: think that the more that Donald Trump and his supporters
Speaker 2: continue to talk about twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: I'm not looking to change their mind about twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: I'm looking for them to understand and just put it
Speaker 8: to bed. And it could have happened, and let's not
Speaker 8: talk about it as a way to talk.
Speaker 3: About I didn't bring it up.
Speaker 2: You brought it up.
Speaker 8: I get that, all right.
Speaker 2: I gotta run, gotta run, will tie by, Bye bye, Okay, Gary,
Speaker 2: Sam and Bob are gonna get you in. I'll try
Speaker 2: to get maybe a couple more in. We'll give it
Speaker 2: the best shot. Coming back from Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ the news Radio.
Speaker 3: I think I could get everyone in.
Speaker 2: Let's start it with Gary and mooberg Gary you next
Speaker 2: on Nightsig, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Short and sweet. Get right to the point.
Speaker 8: The word boom.
Speaker 6: Halloween is coming up. Boom, oh, b oh, oh you
Speaker 6: got combs, cops, judges or a politician and so forth.
Speaker 6: They're in front of the microphone booth. The heck to
Speaker 6: problem with them possibly being corrupt? This that black blake,
Speaker 6: you don't like them?
Speaker 7: Boom.
Speaker 6: Now the last couple of guys who called up and
Speaker 6: talk about Molitia's and all that. Obviously that's very crazy
Speaker 6: you talk about violence. So that's my point.
Speaker 2: Thank you, beg you Gary, appreciate your call, short and
Speaker 2: sweeten to the point, Bob and waymock Bob.
Speaker 3: Next on Nightsig go right ahead.
Speaker 7: Dan, I got old goods.
Speaker 9: I'm a veteran. All right, you go in, you apply
Speaker 9: for You've got your DD two fourteen. You know what
Speaker 9: that is, yep, And on the bottom it has recommended
Speaker 9: for re enlistening. Another guy comes in, not so good.
Speaker 9: He comes out of there with his d D two
Speaker 9: foot geam with non honorable discharge. Who do you think
Speaker 9: gets the job?
Speaker 2: Hopefully the guy with the honorable.
Speaker 9: Discharge not in this space. Okay, Bob, Okay, let me
Speaker 9: let me go one firm.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this, Bob, only because
Speaker 2: I think we're going down a rabbit hole here. What
Speaker 2: I would ask you to do is, why don't you
Speaker 2: send me whatever information you have on that, because I
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense. Although I suspect it might happen.
Speaker 2: If that happened to you, we could do something on it.
Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, because on the chapter eighty five Uniform Code
Speaker 9: of Military Justice, it happened. I decided to read and
Speaker 9: I found.
Speaker 2: Okay, Bob, you gonna I'm gonna ask you politely to
Speaker 2: bring this up to meet another time because this this
Speaker 2: could go on all the way to midnight, and I
Speaker 2: just feel this, it's a story here that I don't
Speaker 2: have time for. If you had called earlier, we could
Speaker 2: have spent more time. So let me politely bid you
Speaker 2: good night, and feel free to contact me.
Speaker 3: Rob.
Speaker 2: Give Bob my direct number at BZ and he can
Speaker 2: call me and I'll get back to him. Let's keep
Speaker 2: rolling here. Sam in Pennsylvania, Sam, you were next to
Speaker 2: a nice man.
Speaker 10: How are you good?
Speaker 2: If I had you before in the show, I didn't
Speaker 2: recall Sam from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: I know Sam in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: I used to pitch for the for the for the
Speaker 2: Indians named Sam mcnowell who lived in Monroeville, Pennsylvania, and
Speaker 2: it was a buddy of mine.
Speaker 7: Go right ahead, got it.
Speaker 10: I actually grew up in Canton, mass So, you know how,
Speaker 10: I don't know if you know about the Karen Read stuff,
Speaker 10: but that's a disaster.
Speaker 5: But anyway, very.
Speaker 2: Very very very clued into the Karen Reach story we've
Speaker 2: followed here, and of course can't mask the home of
Speaker 2: Bobby Witt of the Kansas City Royals and also his dad,
Speaker 2: who was a pretty good pitcher as well.
Speaker 3: Go right ahead, Sam.
Speaker 10: So with all the political talk that I've been hearing about,
Speaker 10: kind of from a young, younger perspective and an open
Speaker 10: mind of both sides, I kinda find it. I kind
Speaker 10: of want to get your take on the whole Kamala
Speaker 10: Harr situation with her kind of being anointed into the nomination,
Speaker 10: and I find her very disingenuous.
Speaker 2: From this point, I referred to it as sort of
Speaker 2: what I call the immaculate nomination, meaning yeah, she never
Speaker 2: want to vote. There have been a lot of Democrats
Speaker 2: who have pursued the nomination, spent a lot of money, spent,
Speaker 2: no money, held no rallies, no member, but she got
Speaker 2: it's and I think that that her answers fairly is
Speaker 2: kind of what I would call circular elocution, meaning she
Speaker 2: says something in at the end, you say what you meant?
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I kind of would want to be swayed
Speaker 10: in one direction or another. I personally don't hold any
Speaker 10: animus towards Trump. I think kind of what you see
Speaker 10: is what you get, and you kind of have to
Speaker 10: deal with it at base value. But with her, she
Speaker 10: went from you know, calling Joe Biden pretty much erasist
Speaker 10: to now being is running mate, and then now she's
Speaker 10: running just out of nowhere.
Speaker 8: And I'm trying a great points.
Speaker 2: Sam, I think you're going to be I think you're
Speaker 2: going to be a Trump voter, is what I think
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 8: Yeah, which is I mean problem.
Speaker 2: I got two more here. I want to try to accommodate.
Speaker 2: So do me think called a little early and we'll
Speaker 2: get more time.
Speaker 3: How old are you? Did you said you're a younger guy.
Speaker 10: I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Have you called before?
Speaker 7: I have not?
Speaker 2: No first time.
Speaker 3: Flavor.
Speaker 2: Keep listening, I'd like to talk to you again. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm serious when I ask you to do that.
Speaker 7: Thank you sounds good bye?
Speaker 2: Great, Let's go Okay, let me go to Sarah in Maine.
Speaker 3: Heat.
Speaker 2: I got thirty seconds for you. That's about it.
Speaker 11: Go right ahead, that's all right, first time call it,
Speaker 11: first time listener, first time radio.
Speaker 4: How'd you find us?
Speaker 11: I happened to be out on an island about to
Speaker 11: go hauling fishing tomorrow morning and turned on an AM
Speaker 11: radio and started listening to you guys, and I thought it,
Speaker 11: you know, just like break up the monotony of all
Speaker 11: the politics.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. Well, I'm sorry, we do a lot
Speaker 2: of other stuff.
Speaker 3: Do me a favorite.
Speaker 2: Please call back another night and we will have a
Speaker 2: great conversation. Okay, but I'm flat out of time. He yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you, Sarah out a lot of new callers. How
Speaker 2: much time we got here? Rob?
Speaker 3: Not much? Right?
Speaker 2: All dogs, all cats, I'll end us always. I'll thank Rob,
Speaker 2: and I'll thank Marita, and I'll tell you all dogs,
Speaker 2: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's where my
Speaker 2: pal Charlie Ray is, who passed fourteen years ago in February.
Speaker 2: That's where all of your pets are who were passed.
Speaker 2: They love you and you love them. I do believe you.
Speaker 2: We see the beginning. We'll see again tomorrow night on Nightside.
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