Speaker 1: Or anything.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask you whether or not do
Speaker 2: Eastern Orthodox believe in a composite hypostasis, because I just
Speaker 2: like I saw like this quote from Maximus saying that
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 3: No, we do it just I mean, Maximus has many
Speaker 3: chapters that discuss it, but it doesn't mean what you
Speaker 3: think it means.
Speaker 2: So when he says not incomposite in hypostasis, that's like,
Speaker 2: what context is this in?
Speaker 3: Again, he has many statements in many chapters where he
Speaker 3: discusses in what way and how it's composite. So if
Speaker 3: by composition you mean blended into a tertiam quid, No,
Speaker 3: if by composite you mean that he possesses to natures, yes,
Speaker 3: composed is to be composed of too.
Speaker 2: Okay, And another thing I'm getting from a lot of
Speaker 2: Eastern Orthodox Christians is do you guys believe in one
Speaker 2: composite nature? Because people telling me this and they're saying
Speaker 2: they also believe in two natures at the same time.
Speaker 3: Composite hypostasis, especially in Saint Maximus, expresses diophysitism and diothelitism,
Speaker 3: So it expresses too elegis.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that a maximus didn't believe in a
Speaker 2: deal physic theology.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just like.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what the phrase expresses. It's intended to
Speaker 3: express diophysitism, and so if it's diophysitism, then no, there
Speaker 3: could never be. What was your last question? I forgot
Speaker 3: what it was. How'd your word it?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: My last question was, do you guys believe in a
Speaker 2: composite nature?
Speaker 3: If by composite you mean composed into a new nature? No,
Speaker 3: If by composite you mean two natures existing in interpenetrating
Speaker 3: one another, yes.
Speaker 2: I mean like one nature being of two natures.
Speaker 3: But no, we don't believe that because natures are in
Speaker 3: patristic theology, the things that define that thing and no
Speaker 3: other thing. So how could he be a divino human
Speaker 3: and not be divine or human?
Speaker 1: Okay? Hold on? Was that a question? Can you repeat that?
Speaker 3: It's a hypothetical question?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, So yeah, thanks.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you being nice, because usually you guys are
Speaker 3: not very nice. What's up with h BROSI there? H Brasi?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Can't hear you either? Maybe come out and come back in? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I mean I want to keep it open to topics,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate him being a nice guy. He wasn't
Speaker 3: angry and yelling and barking the same stuff they always say,
Speaker 3: So appreciate his questions. I wanted to talk about this
Speaker 3: because it relates to the religious topics that we talked
Speaker 3: about today with Richard Grove, and we discussed the whole
Speaker 3: history of the founding of the nation state of Israel.
Speaker 3: We went into the history books. Nobody wants to watch that.
Speaker 3: Nobody actually cares about the real history and the books.
Speaker 3: We've got what thousands of people that want to watch
Speaker 3: just insane dumb news bullshit, but you don't want to
Speaker 3: actually learn the history to your own detriment? American what's up?
Speaker 3: If you wouldn't like and share what's up?
Speaker 1: Name? Hey, God, bless brother, thank you? Oh. Like, separate.
Speaker 5: Anti Semitism from anti Zionism.
Speaker 1: Like when you go into a lot of the spaces.
Speaker 5: That talk about Desionist movement, you get flooded with anti
Speaker 5: Semitic stuff and it really like distorts the message, you know,
Speaker 5: so like you don't even want to participate.
Speaker 1: In that conversation.
Speaker 5: So, like, how what's the best way to delineate between that?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Semitism is from Shim in the Bible,
Speaker 3: and so everybody who's a son of Shim is technically
Speaker 3: a Semitic people group. So what does that have to
Speaker 3: do with acting bad and whether or not a certain
Speaker 3: group of people has certain sins and vices that they
Speaker 3: engage in. Nothing, there's no direct connection between that necessarily,
Speaker 3: So those two different topics, And I would just stress that,
Speaker 3: you know, Arab peoples are also Semitic peoples.
Speaker 5: And I'm talking about anti Semitism as a related to
Speaker 5: just Jewish people as we think of them.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, what I'm saying is relevant to the
Speaker 3: question that you just asked and that topic, because why
Speaker 3: did Jewish people get to only like claim to that, Well.
Speaker 1: They I don't think they should.
Speaker 5: But you know, like I've talked to a lot of
Speaker 5: different you know, we have the disposationalism, and you have
Speaker 5: a lot of attitudes that are very like supportive of
Speaker 5: Jewish people for no reason, you know, like as they're
Speaker 5: not they're not Christians, you know, and as Christians I
Speaker 5: think we should like, I don't know, kind of take
Speaker 5: care of our own.
Speaker 1: I just don't it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't feel like it's it's fair because, like
Speaker 5: I know, you probably know Nick flint Is and stuff.
Speaker 5: It feels like he makes really good points, and then
Speaker 5: he starts talking about like Jewish people in a, you know,
Speaker 5: in a very negative way, and it kind of takes
Speaker 5: away from the really good points he was making.
Speaker 1: And then when you try to like bring up a.
Speaker 5: Video of his to somebody, they.
Speaker 1: Go, well, look, he's just anti Semitic.
Speaker 5: They can just point at the you know, the unnecessary
Speaker 5: negative shit he says.
Speaker 3: You know, well, I mean this is there's multiple things
Speaker 3: going on here, because it's not an issue of you know,
Speaker 3: one person in the alternative media. You know, this is
Speaker 3: again it's an issue where you have people groups laying
Speaker 3: claim to a name that is not exclusively theirs, but
Speaker 3: it has been put out into the mainstream that only
Speaker 3: this people group gets to say I'm anti I'm being
Speaker 3: persecuted because only I am the Semitic people. And of course,
Speaker 3: obviously many of these people are centuries later converts and
Speaker 3: so they don't even technically count as Semitic people. So
Speaker 3: it's a very bizarre situation. But I agree with you.
Speaker 3: The dispensationalism is obviously a heresy, and in regard to
Speaker 3: the other right wing commentators that are out there, I
Speaker 3: want to know from you guys. I want to know
Speaker 3: from the audience, where's the disconnect, Like, what are we
Speaker 3: not doing over here that is that other people are
Speaker 3: finding so convincing Because when I go and interact with
Speaker 3: the followers have said people groups, I don't find them
Speaker 3: knowing anything. They seem to be completely stupid people. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying the face Lords are stupid. I don't think
Speaker 3: they are. I think Candice is smart, Nick is smart,
Speaker 3: Tucker is smart, all the face Lords are intelligent people.
Speaker 3: But in the audiences, I find people who have no
Speaker 3: idea what's going on. So I'm trying to understand where
Speaker 3: is the disconnect Where when we talk about the actual
Speaker 3: history from the history books and we get four thousand
Speaker 3: views this afternoon, and then when we talk about you know,
Speaker 3: other issues, we get way more views. So it's like,
Speaker 3: help me understand what the issue is? And also why
Speaker 3: is everyone so obsessed that with this topic when it's
Speaker 3: it's a topic that like did you not know this
Speaker 3: like years ago? I'm trying to understand the disconnect and
Speaker 3: I'm trying to understand what The issue is what's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: And why are people on the right so dumb? I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about the face lords, talking about the people
Speaker 3: on the right. Why are they so dumb? Help me
Speaker 3: understand what's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 6: I'm dustin, hey, Javis, like I'm the la a little
Speaker 6: bit of your five wise?
Speaker 3: Can you speak up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: You're calling me from a damn toll booth from nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty three.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, barely hear you running out of change?
Speaker 3: Speak? Okay, go ahead better.
Speaker 1: I was listening to here at the end of yours.
Speaker 3: You there. We can't hear you, man. Try to come
Speaker 3: out and come back in owen.
Speaker 7: Hey, Jay, could respond to what you were asking about,
Speaker 7: like why people on the right.
Speaker 1: Seem not to know things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, help me out here.
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not saying that I have the definitive answer.
Speaker 8: But there's actually this book about the populist movement from
Speaker 8: like the eighteen eighties eighteen nineties, the Populace Moment.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who the author is, but in.
Speaker 8: It it really lays down it kind of describes like like
Speaker 8: the five important steps of like a populist movement like
Speaker 8: amongst regular people, and one of the most important steps
Speaker 8: is like the movement educates itself, And this is where
Speaker 8: they laid out how the agrarian farmers basically started auto
Speaker 8: dive acting, teaching themselves and others things like rhetoric and
Speaker 8: the legal system and how to fight using that. And
Speaker 8: the thing that I've observed by and large is that
Speaker 8: most of the people on the right, there's now this
Speaker 8: feeling of like, we have people that do that, and
Speaker 8: I support them by like watching them or buying coffee
Speaker 8: from them or something, rather than you know, doing what
Speaker 8: I And like my wife, she's like going to law
Speaker 8: school because she wants to should become a judge, even
Speaker 8: though I think I actually told her women shouldn't be judged.
Speaker 1: That's a separate thing.
Speaker 8: But but like because we're like, yeah, this is you know,
Speaker 8: the regular people have to step up and can't just
Speaker 8: be like I buy coffee, I buy nicotine pouches.
Speaker 3: From Tucker, Like it doesn't work.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do think that's part of the disconnect.
Speaker 3: And what do you envision stepping up to be just
Speaker 3: engaging in political action or what do you what do
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 8: I do think that probably they need to get politically
Speaker 8: activated on some level on the ground level to feel involved.
Speaker 8: But there does need to be I mean, like Paul
Speaker 8: didn't immediately start preaching. You know, we could extend the
Speaker 8: same principle to like other things. People need to recognize
Speaker 8: their ignorance. It's like they because they see how stupid
Speaker 8: like Kamala Harris or whoever, they're thinking of, like oh, these.
Speaker 1: A She's so dumb.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: They are dumb.
Speaker 8: But I'm not saying these people that you are dumb
Speaker 8: the per who's saying this, but like you are ignorant.
Speaker 8: I mean I'm ignorant of things, like I try to
Speaker 8: autodidact and teach myself things. But there has to be
Speaker 8: a certain recognition of like personal deficiency that is lack.
Speaker 8: I don't know if the answer is like generally pride
Speaker 8: or something or whatever, but there's been this inculcation in
Speaker 8: the broader population that I can see of like maybe it's.
Speaker 1: From this Prussian education system. I don't know, yeah, of
Speaker 1: like you don't you're not.
Speaker 8: Active, You're not an active participation participant in like reality.
Speaker 8: I really don't know how else to describe it.
Speaker 3: It's simulated by proxy. I mean, I think I agree
Speaker 3: with you and also I think the Internet is giving
Speaker 3: a lot of people the impression that they know things
Speaker 3: when they actually don't. Like everybody thinks they're an expert
Speaker 3: on everything now because they have the Internet and they
Speaker 3: have AI or whatever, and you cannot replace actually reading
Speaker 3: in an understanding books with AI, chat, GBT, YouTube videos,
Speaker 3: none of that can ever replace actually reading books. So
Speaker 3: because people in mass do not read and they watch
Speaker 3: screens all day, I think this is a huge, huge
Speaker 3: part of it. Not that just reading alone would solve things,
Speaker 3: but we have masses of people that are living incarnations
Speaker 3: of Dunning Krueger. I know that's overused, but I think
Speaker 3: it's legit here, and they are Internet pseudo experts and
Speaker 3: they don't know anything. I mean, they think they do.
Speaker 3: But the Internet is this democratizing, egalitarian force that makes
Speaker 3: everyone think that they know things and they don't really.
Speaker 3: And so for example, you know, in regard to a
Speaker 3: lot of the face lords, okay with we have fuentests,
Speaker 3: we have canvas perhaps others that I am not even
Speaker 3: thinking of. These are traditional Catholic face lords. And I'm
Speaker 3: going to just say traditional Cavey because that makes it easy.
Speaker 3: You know, we have our friend Tim Gordon and others
Speaker 3: aspiring face lords. Why can we not talk about the
Speaker 3: Vatican being judaized so these people will cover for that
Speaker 3: and not talk about that. You're supposed to talk about
Speaker 3: Judaism all day long, Well, what about the Vatican? What
Speaker 3: about the papacy discussing and citing the Talmud and the
Speaker 3: Talmudic principle of tiquin olam. Greetings from Rome.
Speaker 10: I'm very happy to join you in Chicago as the
Speaker 10: Less Turner Als Foundation gathers us for the annual ALS
Speaker 10: Walk for Life. Ours is a gathering of many people.
Speaker 10: Let me say first of all that I am filled
Speaker 10: with admiration and gratefulness to the researchers and scientists gathered here.
Speaker 10: Our Jewish brothers and sisters tell us that one of
Speaker 10: the great projects given the human family by God is
Speaker 10: to complete and perfect the very good creation given us
Speaker 10: tikun olam.
Speaker 3: Of course, this is a Talmudic principle, it's not actually
Speaker 3: really a biblical theological principle. And also Judaism does not
Speaker 3: teach that Christians and Jews are brothers and sisters. It
Speaker 3: teaches that they are the enemies, and Christianity historically has
Speaker 3: taught that Judaism is not the brothers and sister of
Speaker 3: Christ or Christians because they hate they hate Christ and
Speaker 3: and so forth. So why would we think that or
Speaker 3: why would we ignore this element if we wanted to
Speaker 3: go on crusades to expose Zionism, as many of the
Speaker 3: so called right wingers do on a daily basis. They
Speaker 3: build their entire audience just on this topic almost entirely.
Speaker 3: And by the way, have these people actually read any
Speaker 3: of the texts that we're talking about, like the text
Speaker 3: that we talked about tonight with Richard Grove. Have any
Speaker 3: of these people actually read these texts? I don't think
Speaker 3: find this or Candace I've actually read any of these texts.
Speaker 3: Maybe they have, and I could be shown that I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Although when I offered to have a debate on these topics,
Speaker 3: nobody was interested. They turned it down. So now that's
Speaker 3: ankle binding. Even though I think I'm calling out and
Speaker 3: asking a fair question. If the two thousand and three
Speaker 3: Catholic document Reflections on Covenant and Mission about the Jews
Speaker 3: says not to convert Jews, why would we not call
Speaker 3: that out? Why would we not consider that if the
Speaker 3: popes back to John Paul the Second Benedicta sixteenth Pope
Speaker 3: Francis all go and pray in synagogues, something explicitly forbidden
Speaker 3: in the first thousand years of Christian canon law, something
Speaker 3: forbidden even as late as nineteen twenty eight in people
Speaker 3: and cyclicals like mortality. Why would we not call that out?
Speaker 3: Where is the disconnect with these people? I don't understand.
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand the Face Lords themselves not covering
Speaker 3: it because it's a tough thing. And why cover that
Speaker 3: when we can bitch about Trump flip flopping? Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: this man influences potentially a billion people spiritually. Trump Okay,
Speaker 3: he influences a lot of people in the world, maybe
Speaker 3: the entire world, but not really spiritually. So what's more dangerous,
Speaker 3: what's more devastating? What's more of a potential problem? A
Speaker 3: judaized papacy that teaches a form of Judaism or Judaizing
Speaker 3: or silly political flip flopping that nobody will remember in
Speaker 3: a month. What about the Vatican two documents that teach
Speaker 3: basically the same thing about Muslims and Jews. So then
Speaker 3: what we get is Face Lord's telling us no, actually,
Speaker 3: Muslims are based Muslims are right wing buddies, total idiocy
Speaker 3: and nonsense, utterly stupid positions. I can't actually believe I
Speaker 3: can though, because actually I thought this at one time too.
Speaker 3: I mean, not that Islam was based just that, oh,
Speaker 3: they're like a conservative religious force. But I didn't know
Speaker 3: anything about Islam. I'd never read or studied or looked
Speaker 3: at even just debates between Christians and Muslims. And now
Speaker 3: we have multiple senators, entire cities as you see here
Speaker 3: in America, and some of these right wing goobers have
Speaker 3: actually cheered this on. Oh, I'm not worried about the Muslims.
Speaker 3: I'm only worried about Zionism. I'm only worried about Apak.
Speaker 3: I'm only worried about Judaism. Okay, well, I don't walk
Speaker 3: down the street and see like Jews everywhere, but I
Speaker 3: do see Muslims everywhere. And yes, Israel has no problem
Speaker 3: with Islam being the broom of Judaism, as some of
Speaker 3: the rabbis say. Here's an entire city warre in Michigan
Speaker 3: were the entire downtown blocked off with a giant horde
Speaker 3: of Muslims, and only complete goobers would think that this
Speaker 3: doesn't pose an issue. Are they not even aware of
Speaker 3: their own Crusader history? Why would the Crusaders go to
Speaker 3: war against the Muslims, the Ottomans, etc. When if they're
Speaker 3: actually your base buddies, you idiots. This is why those
Speaker 3: people won't actually debate me. They will not win a
Speaker 3: debate with me. They can't actually deal with the types
Speaker 3: of documents, discussions and challenges that I would bring up.
Speaker 3: And that's why it's much easier to just dismiss me
Speaker 3: and then lie about me. Oh, he doesn't ever talk
Speaker 3: about Zionis because he just wants to attack Catholics. How
Speaker 3: many of my debates in the last eight seven eight
Speaker 3: years were with Muslims? Most of them. Most of the
Speaker 3: big public debates were with with Muslims, not with Roman Catholics.
Speaker 3: Only a handful of prominent Roman Catholics. Because there aren't
Speaker 3: any prominent Roman Catholics that can actually debate. They all suck.
Speaker 3: They're terrible. I like Tim Gordon, but Tim completely failed
Speaker 3: in the debate. Uh Eric Ibara, I don't even know
Speaker 3: he's in a carb coma. Wake him up? Can he
Speaker 3: even debate? Who knows he's asleep? Delson? All right, now, look,
Speaker 3: don't call in about TAG. I'm not talking about tag today.
Speaker 3: Anything else is on the table. Ash what's up?
Speaker 1: Hey, you can hear me?
Speaker 3: Uh huh yeah.
Speaker 11: So I wanted to speak maybe on the question you're
Speaker 11: asking on what are kind of what is? What is
Speaker 11: your platform? Not do mean that the others are doing
Speaker 11: that gets them so much traction?
Speaker 1: Is it just?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know one, I don't cover politics really
Speaker 3: because politics is like low tier for tards, and then
Speaker 3: everybody else is a dumb tard and thinks that they're
Speaker 3: going to like actually be voting and changing things. So
Speaker 3: maybe is that what it is? I'm just not doing politics.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's even more a methodological methodological level.
Speaker 11: I don't even know if they're right, but either way,
Speaker 11: I've been listening to you for a long time and
Speaker 11: I've been like listening to all your videos and they're
Speaker 11: all long form, right, And you've mentioned before how short
Speaker 11: firm short form shorts are actually a cancer on our
Speaker 11: brains and like you know, metaphors was not actually but
Speaker 11: they're just causing our brains to rout. And I think
Speaker 11: all these Fintes and all these Candice people are just
Speaker 11: watching clips and expecting that to be their force when
Speaker 11: they go into.
Speaker 3: Politically doesn't do like an hour show though, So no, no, they.
Speaker 1: Do long form shows. But I think so.
Speaker 11: I've been watching Flints for the past two weeks since
Speaker 11: the Kirk event. He's only getting like twenty thousand listeners
Speaker 11: a night. And so if you think about like all
Speaker 11: the people that are pushing this stuff, it's all short
Speaker 11: form shorts, like I think the and like that. That's
Speaker 11: why I'm glad that you're like promoting clips now. I
Speaker 11: think the clips are going to be helpful and trying
Speaker 11: to get more people listening to your content because people
Speaker 11: really don't care.
Speaker 1: It takes a long It takes.
Speaker 11: A it takes effort to listen to longer form videos
Speaker 11: and to actually remember all the things you're saying. I mean,
Speaker 11: because all the things you're saying are correct and they're
Speaker 11: actually weighty. But if you just listen to a clip
Speaker 11: of flint is going off on Jews, I think a
Speaker 11: lot more people for some reason, I don't agree with it.
Speaker 11: For some reason, they're going to be more attractive to
Speaker 11: those kind of clips instead of the hard work of
Speaker 11: listening to a hour long, two hour long lecture and
Speaker 11: actually bringing that to conversations when they talk with.
Speaker 1: People, they'd rather bring the clip in.
Speaker 11: And I've done it myself, like I've listened to it
Speaker 11: before about some like hot news tape or whatever, and
Speaker 11: I brought it to a conversation and somebody roasted the
Speaker 11: crap out of me because I had neuro context of
Speaker 11: what happened before or after. And so I was like, day,
Speaker 11: that's why short form is horrible, because the context I
Speaker 11: was trying to bring in was like not even correct,
Speaker 11: but I thought it was, you know. And so all
Speaker 11: these goobers who are just like short form, short form
Speaker 11: shorts and tiktoks, I'm just watching that all day instead
Speaker 11: of going to the long form lectures. Yeah, they're just
Speaker 11: ingesting a bunch of sound bites that if you go
Speaker 11: into a natural conversation with somebody.
Speaker 3: I think you're right about that, because that's why when
Speaker 3: you talk to these people, you don't actually get any sensible,
Speaker 3: coherent responses. You just get gibbering and chirping and they
Speaker 3: just repeat what they heard somebody else say. And yes,
Speaker 3: we have like at least ten clip channels now, so
Speaker 3: shout out to all the clip channels because there's ten
Speaker 3: of them. Guys, feel free go crazy with the clips
Speaker 3: all you want, I welcome it. Just link back to
Speaker 3: the channel. And yeah, the clip channels are getting in
Speaker 3: many cases many or more views than my channel, which
Speaker 3: is fine. I don't care which channel gets more views. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that that is a key point here. And
Speaker 3: also it's just it's difficult too. You know. I talked
Speaker 3: to a lot of say, Roman Catholic people, and they
Speaker 3: call in and a lot of people are new converts.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't really know anything about any
Speaker 3: of these documents, any of this history, you know. And
Speaker 3: I've been studying this stuff, at least in the case
Speaker 3: of Roman Catholicism for twenty two years, you know, in
Speaker 3: the two years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, by the way, speaking on that, if you don't
Speaker 6: mind if I pick up on that. Sure, even Roman
Speaker 6: Catholics who aren't new, how many of them don't know
Speaker 6: that Universal Ordinary magisteriums actually binding?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I would say at least ninety five percent of them
Speaker 3: don't know that. I mean, even Tim is unclear on it.
Speaker 6: What's really crazy, It's like, well, so your whole faith
Speaker 6: is reduced to exca fever state?
Speaker 1: How many are there seven eight.
Speaker 3: Well most of them think a few, which isn't even true,
Speaker 3: but they can't tell you the number.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, it's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 6: So they always want to take it back to well
Speaker 6: that's sound infallible, you see, was an expazer a statement,
Speaker 6: But like, have we ever made.
Speaker 1: The argument that it's like, that's so sad, so you're everything.
Speaker 6: Can change and is not part of the faith except
Speaker 6: for five six statements like that's your faith?
Speaker 1: Like why would anybody want to join your church with that?
Speaker 6: And that's not even true, right, But yeah, it just
Speaker 6: shows that it's not just new people coming in. It's
Speaker 6: like most even Roman Catholic I would even say, I'm
Speaker 6: going to actually bring this up tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to I'm going to knock on
Speaker 1: the door of all the.
Speaker 6: Theology professors that I work in and be like and
Speaker 6: ask that question, are you as universal magisterium when you're
Speaker 6: a magistrum binding?
Speaker 1: I guarantee they won't even know. No.
Speaker 3: I didn't learn this until I was in the SSPX
Speaker 3: and then struggled with the challenge from the set of
Speaker 3: a contest because the set of a contest use this
Speaker 3: against the SSPX to point out that you have to
Speaker 3: follow all the people teaching you don't get the freedom
Speaker 3: and the liberty to throw it all away and just
Speaker 3: follow seven eight ten exec theater statements. That's just a fiction.
Speaker 3: That's something completely made up by the SSPX and many
Speaker 3: Roman Catholics who are not SSPs. What's up, Troy.
Speaker 1: PJ? So?
Speaker 12: I think at a fundamental level, I blame like humanity
Speaker 12: in terms of we don't learn from history, Like what
Speaker 12: we learn from history is that we don't learn from history.
Speaker 12: And I also think in terms of experts because I'm
Speaker 12: a bitcoin her and one thing I've realized about experts,
Speaker 12: especially fed experts and other trad fire experts, is that
Speaker 12: they don't know what the fuck they're talking about at all, right,
Speaker 12: And what I found is that they're perfect at predicting
Speaker 12: the past, but when it comes towards predicting the future,
Speaker 12: I'd rather flip a coin or have a gerbil do
Speaker 12: a random action and that's probably better.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like Candice Owens does a lot of
Speaker 3: good stuff, and then you've got this like fixation on
Speaker 3: Macron's wife's gender, and I'm like, it's just weird. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, she probably isn't whatever, but like it's just bizarre,
Speaker 3: I guess, and then you know, no knowledge of the
Speaker 3: religion of the theology, but suddenly she's Roman Catholic and
Speaker 3: it's like why and why would we It's just odd,
Speaker 3: it's all weird. It's all it doesn't seem very thought out,
Speaker 3: and like you're saying, it's almost like it's almost as
Speaker 3: if people are just hunting for a new expert to follow.
Speaker 3: And then you're like, why do you think this person
Speaker 3: is even an expert?
Speaker 12: And also like like Wes Huff he knows far more
Speaker 12: than I do about Christianity, but he's a Protestant and
Speaker 12: he he's not Orthodox, when if you just look at
Speaker 12: the history, it logically points towards Orthodoxy.
Speaker 3: It's weird exactly that there's so many kind of basics
Speaker 3: you would think right like you would you know, I
Speaker 3: was thinking about Islam as I was reading and we're
Speaker 3: lecturing through this, you know, book on al Qaeda, the
Speaker 3: History of al Qaeda from an FBI consultant, Like why
Speaker 3: would anybody not want to know if let's say you're
Speaker 3: a Muslim and your religion comes from the Torah originally, right,
Speaker 3: and the Ngel wouldn't you want to know what the Torah?
Speaker 3: And then you'll say, even if you thought they'd been
Speaker 3: quote corrupted, because when you go and familiarize yourself with
Speaker 3: the Torah and the profits, it would be immediately apparent
Speaker 3: and obvious. I think that, Okay, this new copy paste
Speaker 3: thing is not consistent with what came before. And then
Speaker 3: when we look at the people groups that Islam typically
Speaker 3: appeals to and converts very low IQ people Adiq individuals,
Speaker 3: Adiq nations. I'm not being mean, I'm being honest. That's
Speaker 3: that's a fact. We can see why it appeals I
Speaker 3: think to very unfortunately unintelligent nations and people groups and tribes.
Speaker 3: But many of those obviously are illiterate people groups. And
Speaker 3: then I see in Michigan and Minnesota entire town's, entire
Speaker 3: places now sort of adopting Sharia law and all this stuff,
Speaker 3: or almost surial law, or trying to move in that direction.
Speaker 3: We're getting, you know, Islamic mayors, just like the UK
Speaker 3: and England got. And again I'm realizing, like so all
Speaker 3: of these people have no idea like what their religion
Speaker 3: actually is, even though it's based on things that came before,
Speaker 3: and they have no familiarity with what came before. And
Speaker 3: I'm saying that as somebody who's debated all the top Muslims.
Speaker 3: We've spent seven years now interacting, and it's like they
Speaker 3: have no idea what is actually in the previous texts,
Speaker 3: which you would think you would want to know that
Speaker 3: if your religion is based on that, it's just it's
Speaker 3: kind of insane. But then again, I think, well, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, it's the same idea with Mormonism, Like Mormonism
Speaker 3: is equally as goofy and fraudulent as Islam. You would
Speaker 3: think if you're a Mormon, some of these things will
Speaker 3: be obvious, And then no, it's not. Fodin. What's up?
Speaker 3: Radical muscles about to become New York Marea? Exactly, Mom, Donnie,
Speaker 3: We've got this woman in Minnesota that we just showed
Speaker 3: forgot what her name was. What's up, man, I'm you Fodian?
Speaker 3: This this person here, what's that man, I'm your Fodian?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry. We were saying about the problem with
Speaker 1: right wingers being so dumb. I've really I've noticed that too.
Speaker 13: I think a lot of it comes down to the
Speaker 13: fact that most people nowadays who are right wing or
Speaker 13: right wing through some sort of study or through some
Speaker 13: sort of debate instruction, like a like people who became
Speaker 13: right wing through would say Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson.
Speaker 1: Most people who get red pilled.
Speaker 13: It comes from social media and like short clips and
Speaker 13: memes that they see and accurate information we're talking about
Speaker 13: do Not's a perfect example because you'll see a million
Speaker 13: like I don't even remember it was like a year
Speaker 13: or two ago when like Twitter was only like time
Speaker 13: with me.
Speaker 1: No, we're just making it.
Speaker 13: Made up of low quality quotes or fake quotes, and
Speaker 13: I mean there's a lot of bad stuff in it, really,
Speaker 13: but people get exposed to low amounts of low quality information,
Speaker 13: and that just reads a giant undercraft class of retarded
Speaker 13: right wingers and a sort of elite of ones who
Speaker 13: have any idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 3: So basically people are being propagandaized through shorts and dumb
Speaker 3: memes and this is creating a giant underclass of quote
Speaker 3: right wing conservative retards.
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, And it's the same way through the four.
Speaker 1: Chant because if you ever don't get no I ever
Speaker 1: go there.
Speaker 13: But like just it's just reposted low quality infographics that
Speaker 13: then get reposted on the Twitter.
Speaker 1: So it's the same sort.
Speaker 14: Of slow off cycle that just just lobotomizes people genuinely,
Speaker 14: and none of them ever read go take time to
Speaker 14: read things or actually understand the issues.
Speaker 1: Most of them are only tangentially.
Speaker 13: Interested in it and are only sitting being shocked by
Speaker 13: lashing graphics.
Speaker 3: That makes sense. See, you guys are we have We
Speaker 3: have the highest PSYQ audience, And that's why I like
Speaker 3: to get you guys's takes, because you guys bring in
Speaker 3: actual analysis. So I think, like this audience is great.
Speaker 3: We have a high a Q audience, and we try
Speaker 3: to look at it. We oftentimes also very good I
Speaker 3: think in my audience avoiding the falling into dialectics, right, well.
Speaker 1: I built it in the algorithm your page.
Speaker 6: Yeah, By the way, I do want to make that point,
Speaker 6: just to follow up on what our last.
Speaker 1: Guy said that.
Speaker 6: The left evil right, Yeah, we get that, and talking
Speaker 6: about manufacturing consent, the less not the only one that's susceptible.
Speaker 6: The right is too, like, yeah, they're they're retards in
Speaker 6: the right right, And and the greatest example of low
Speaker 6: IQ manufacturing consent of the right is Zionism. Like, so
Speaker 6: they totally fall no let me give you a better
Speaker 6: example too.
Speaker 3: Well, the evangelical dispensational Israel worship is the stupidest stuff
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the boomer mentality of the right, Now I'm
Speaker 6: not saying they're morally equivalent, Like I obviously realize the
Speaker 6: left totally evil, but with the right, the Boomer mentality
Speaker 6: mindset of everything can just be reduced to communism, yeah,
Speaker 6: and Islamic terrorism.
Speaker 1: That's as far as it goes.
Speaker 3: Or what's the favorite Boomer phrases, Islamo fascism, yeah.
Speaker 1: Or that, like, everything's just as high as it goes
Speaker 1: and as complic goes. Just Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 6: Republican Democrat, there's Islamic terrorism and communism versus patreosm that's
Speaker 6: all like, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: That's the boomers, right, So boomers are stuck in that.
Speaker 3: And then we've got the gen X and the millennial
Speaker 3: and the gen Z and they're kind of not in
Speaker 3: that dialectic anymore. But there still seems to be this
Speaker 3: problem where we can't there there is some something hindering
Speaker 3: the next phase or level of awakening. And now everybody
Speaker 3: is figuring out the stuff that we figured out and
Speaker 3: talked about fifteen years ago. So I'm guessing the next
Speaker 3: phase will be maybe people start to think, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: you know, I foresee a future where we are interacting
Speaker 3: with and dealing with with neo Pagan's, Muslims and Orthodox good.
Speaker 1: Good call. By the way, it was good to see
Speaker 1: that all am I blanking on his name, h Richard Grove.
Speaker 6: See here's a guy that's able to see the kind
Speaker 6: of nuances of it does go a little bit.
Speaker 3: Farther than well, No, Richard's a really well read guy.
Speaker 3: Like he's he's more well read in a lot of
Speaker 3: the history topics that we talked about today than I am.
Speaker 3: So he's super well read.
Speaker 1: Good Okay, yeah, it was.
Speaker 6: It was good to see that he has this kind
Speaker 6: of nuances and it's like, yeah, it goes it's a
Speaker 6: lot more complicated.
Speaker 1: And even just bringing up stuff with the World War
Speaker 1: two and.
Speaker 15: Stuff like that and like who funded who and stuff
Speaker 15: like that. I was impressed to see him like make
Speaker 15: those comments and know. But like if you yeah, if
Speaker 15: you have a boom mentality, if you have i Q seventy.
Speaker 6: It's like you just can't grasp it, Like what do
Speaker 6: you talk about? Not how the tvtail vision tell.
Speaker 3: Me, yeah, I think that definitely. The younger you get,
Speaker 3: the quicker it is for people to figure things out
Speaker 3: because of the speed of information. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: that speed of information is being compacted into these you know, shorts,
Speaker 3: and it's just making everything just ridiculous. What's up, man?
Speaker 1: Other j how are you?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 16: I hate to kind of derail or topic of dunking
Speaker 16: on idiotic conservatives, but you got called out on on
Speaker 16: Instagram page with fifty k followers, Yeah, for being mean,
Speaker 16: And you're not gonna believe who called you out.
Speaker 1: It's it's a yeah Jesus for being mean.
Speaker 16: But it's this Cate of Cuman who dresses up as
Speaker 16: a crusader and praise on camera.
Speaker 3: Wait you're looking at it, well, hold on, he Orthodox
Speaker 3: catechumen addresses up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he dressed up this crusader and he prison camera.
Speaker 3: Doesn't even sound real. Who is this person?
Speaker 16: So on Instagram it's crusade with care forty eight point
Speaker 16: one k followers.
Speaker 3: Well, uh, you know a lot of these people, a
Speaker 3: lot of the younger people, by the way, by followers, so.
Speaker 16: Oh, I mean some of these reels they have like
Speaker 16: fifteen k legs or whatever.
Speaker 3: Now you can buy those two.
Speaker 1: I'm not if you're not. Like the next one has
Speaker 1: to be like a furry.
Speaker 17: There's a furry.
Speaker 3: There's an Orthodox furry category Orthodox furry.
Speaker 1: He's calling jan.
Speaker 3: What's the name again?
Speaker 16: Crusade with care on Instagram all the lowercase all one.
Speaker 1: We're together.
Speaker 3: Usually the way means roots of Orthodoxy, okay, but where's
Speaker 3: the Orthodoxy? Is a fraud?
Speaker 16: So oh yeah, he says that he's Jonathan has done
Speaker 16: the greatest service to the Orthodox Church and the.
Speaker 3: Online this guy like this guy.
Speaker 6: Because I've called it out too and people, you know,
Speaker 6: I told my fellow brother priest that I'm like, hey, stop.
Speaker 1: Going on this guy's channel. Right. Oh no, Well he's
Speaker 1: a really honest guy and he was honest to us.
Speaker 1: Like that's fine, But keep in mind the audience.
Speaker 6: Thinks this guy's Orthodox and he's taking money from them.
Speaker 3: So this guy is doing the same thing where he
Speaker 3: sits in his corner with he's got no no, he's
Speaker 3: got fake ivy over his Orthodox prayer corner and he
Speaker 3: dresses up as a crusader. This is like fed energy, Dude.
Speaker 3: You can't make this the.
Speaker 16: One where he calls you it's one worth wearing the suit.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even name you.
Speaker 16: Actually, he refuses to name us in the comments.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so this is like obviously this could even
Speaker 3: be like FED energy stuff, and he's this is so ridiculous.
Speaker 18: Also if you but I've held my tongue on this
Speaker 18: for a hot second, and honestly this needs to be.
Speaker 16: Sas and like saying, oh, I lived in the darkness
Speaker 16: and whatnot. But I'm a crusader, I'm Greek Island.
Speaker 1: Isn't it bizarre?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was really, It's like.
Speaker 3: This is this is this is like FED energy stuff
Speaker 3: because nobody this is what FED used to do, where
Speaker 3: they would like dress up in these costumes like militia
Speaker 3: level Feds. And here he is, he's promoting Lee Strobel's
Speaker 3: case for christ. I mean, what orthodox person pushes Lee
Speaker 3: Strobel first of all.
Speaker 16: Oh, and also I mentioned the prying on camera like
Speaker 16: a year ago he started the page and he started
Speaker 16: it off with a four part series on praying the Rosary.
Speaker 18: Please watch this until the ending. I need to make
Speaker 18: something very clear because based on my last few videos,
Speaker 18: I think people get the wrong dual. I'm some kind
Speaker 18: of pacifist my eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is, by the way, you'll notice because you
Speaker 3: can buy followers and likes. So I'm not saying he
Speaker 3: doesn't get but like he's got sixty comments here, twenty comments.
Speaker 3: If you're getting.
Speaker 16: Something you're feeling to realize is that a lot of
Speaker 16: people on Instagram are retarded.
Speaker 3: No, I know that, but uh, for example, that Muslim
Speaker 3: grifter kid, he did the exact same thing where he
Speaker 3: had like one hundred thousand followers. I forget that guy's name,
Speaker 3: but he's been going around everywhere like he's gotten yeah,
Speaker 3: the white guy. Yeah, so if he's got almost all
Speaker 3: the followers are fake, and then he's got tons and
Speaker 3: tons of likes. But then if you look at the number,
Speaker 3: it's like three comments. Okay, So if you're getting like
Speaker 3: fifty thousand likes and you've got like four comments, okay,
Speaker 3: there's something off there, right, So I don't know for
Speaker 3: sure that this guy has done that.
Speaker 1: You're right, I don't know. I'm gonna disagree.
Speaker 3: With fourteen comments, fourteen.
Speaker 1: My morning prayers in the night temp you.
Speaker 3: Should wear a templar outfit. Like if you guys can't
Speaker 3: figure out this is like fake and fraudulent, like I
Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you. I'm gonna block this nonsense.
Speaker 3: So this is I mean, I guess you're right, though.
Speaker 3: People just can't like they don't have discernment anymore. Thank you,
Speaker 3: by the way, justin appreciate that they have no discernment.
Speaker 3: I apologize. If you want to say more, come back, Uh,
Speaker 3: slow boy, I'm sorry. I was about to go to you.
Speaker 3: Where'd you go? Slow boy? Left?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: When I was gonna go to a slow boy? Glenn Glenneth?
Speaker 3: What's up? Glenneth? Is that real name? I mean, dude,
Speaker 3: what's up?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 19: One thing you gotta know about like YouTube and all that,
Speaker 19: the algorithms, most people actually like understand them like super well,
Speaker 19: so they'll like, like for mister Beasts, for instance, he'll
Speaker 19: put his videos out for the day, and then like
Speaker 19: a day or two later, they'll change the titles so
Speaker 19: they capture more of their audience.
Speaker 3: I've done that before.
Speaker 19: Like, yeah, so like the first day you put it
Speaker 19: as this, and.
Speaker 3: You put a different you can put a different thumbnail
Speaker 3: up too, yeah.
Speaker 19: Yeah, so instead of fifty percent capture, you get like
Speaker 19: seventy five. And then a lot of people when they
Speaker 19: have their clips channels, they have someone run it and
Speaker 19: clip their stuff while they're actually doing it. And what
Speaker 19: they do is like, Okay, I get fifty you get
Speaker 19: fifty percent of the income, so make it as best
Speaker 19: as you can. And then you have one person just
Speaker 19: focusing on clips the whole time, and then they just
Speaker 19: get half the income, and so it's in their best
Speaker 19: interest to blow it up as high as possible and.
Speaker 1: Then you don't have to worry about it. So there's
Speaker 1: like a lot of like tricks where people do just.
Speaker 3: To blow it up good points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like a lot of people also they
Speaker 1: kind of they kind of just I think it's.
Speaker 19: More not that they're not intelligent, it's just they don't
Speaker 19: know a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 3: It's true, but a lot of the same people like
Speaker 3: sort of run around with this sort of arrogant know
Speaker 3: it all attitude even as they don't know. Justin, did
Speaker 3: you want to finish your comment before we go to
Speaker 3: somebody else Justin or Justinian?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 16: Yeah, So I was going to talk about esthetics and
Speaker 16: how people think that's you know, just looking cool or
Speaker 16: whatever makes you based or something. It's like people think
Speaker 16: Stalin is cool just because he made the Moscow metro
Speaker 16: look so pretty, right, and it's like, imagine if somebody
Speaker 16: on Instagram sort of doing Orthodox apologetics and dressing up
Speaker 16: as a Bolshevik, that's all absurd.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 3: That's funny. I thank you, justin just I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that. Let's see Mayo, what's up man?
Speaker 1: Well, what's going on?
Speaker 3: What's on your mind?
Speaker 20: So I'm gen Z, right, and you know a lot
Speaker 20: of people in my generation are watching. And you know,
Speaker 20: as gen Z, we see the results of postmodernism, right,
Speaker 20: And you were just previously talking about like the bloomer mentality.
Speaker 20: You basically you said that what is Nick doing that?
Speaker 20: For example, like maybe you and other people aren't.
Speaker 3: I mean, the.
Speaker 20: Unfortunate, brutal truth is that as as young white gen
Speaker 20: Z guys, we're basically seen as public.
Speaker 1: In any number one because you know.
Speaker 20: The patriarchy, feminism in the schools, anti religion.
Speaker 1: With the cultural Marxism.
Speaker 20: So from a young white gen Z guys perspective, we
Speaker 20: see Nick as a I mean, I wouldn't really say
Speaker 20: he's disaffected besides him being like canceled, but it's more
Speaker 20: so he speaks to like the tribalism aspect, because if
Speaker 20: you are paying attention to other ethnic groups for example,
Speaker 20: like like African Americans that no longer want to be
Speaker 20: called African Americans, they're going now by a foundational Black Americans.
Speaker 1: So that's what truth nasheid.
Speaker 20: So there's a lot of like ethnic ethnocentrism, tribalism. There's
Speaker 20: a lot of basically tribal warfare that's going on in
Speaker 20: the gen Z warfare and in the gen Z culture
Speaker 20: right now. I wouldn't follow off say race war, but
Speaker 20: I would say more so ethno centrism, and basically when
Speaker 20: you're you know, I remember watching you having you watching
Speaker 20: your stream in one of these streams the last couple
Speaker 20: of weeks.
Speaker 1: You were also talked about when you were young, there.
Speaker 20: Was like a group of teachers that were basically plotting
Speaker 20: to like a mask late the young males.
Speaker 1: That's basically what happened. That's literally what's happening in my
Speaker 1: school right now. So that's not even.
Speaker 3: Joke, like it's it's no, I believe it. They were
Speaker 3: literally saying this, this is twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: When I heard, yeah, it's it's a it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: Like it's like sisterhood. Sisterhood code is a real thing.
Speaker 20: Like they'll literally like have like the female young students
Speaker 20: talk with the female teachers, and then the male teachers
Speaker 20: will basically be like like simps because like they're just
Speaker 20: they're just basically gynocrats. But basically, nick he speaks to
Speaker 20: the feminism problem. He speaks to the you know, the
Speaker 20: two party unit party problem. He is Catholic, and I
Speaker 20: know one time he talked to you about like you know,
Speaker 20: he d m you saying, stop attacking Catholicism.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on.
Speaker 20: The theological debate that I do think orthodoxy is is
Speaker 20: the is the truth compared to Catholicism. But but since
Speaker 20: here more brutal about the theological, in the in the
Speaker 20: material temporal realm, unfortunately the politics and the tribalism just
Speaker 20: because because let's say.
Speaker 1: You're a young gen Z guy who's agnostic, like.
Speaker 20: Are you going to be more attached to the white
Speaker 20: identitarianism and Nickois saying or towards theology, especially when you're
Speaker 20: in school, you're going to lean towards the political America
Speaker 20: first nationalism, because when you're a young gen Z mail,
Speaker 20: you have the choice between.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I understand. I understand because I've been
Speaker 3: I've been that, and I was in the university in
Speaker 3: my twenties under the same you know, sort of assault,
Speaker 3: so I totally get it. But I think what you're
Speaker 3: going to realize is, like all this political shit is
Speaker 3: not like it's it's it's I'm not saying you can't
Speaker 3: have any political interest or uh strategy, maybe at the
Speaker 3: local level, but like you're going to look back and
Speaker 3: wish that you had, for example, bought bitcoin, that you had,
Speaker 3: for example, learn to interact with women. And I don't
Speaker 3: just I mean, I don't understand being a young guy
Speaker 3: not interested in interacting with women. And I know you
Speaker 3: can say, oh, but the women are bad and this
Speaker 3: and that, but I just don't understand it. I still
Speaker 3: go out in the world, even though I'm married, and
Speaker 3: I see good looking single women. I don't understand the
Speaker 3: attitude of I don't care about that, because every time
Speaker 3: I discuss this type this type of stuff, what I
Speaker 3: get from that side of the aisle that audience is
Speaker 3: exactly what you said, we care about this, this, this, this,
Speaker 3: I never heard anything about. Okay, how are you starting
Speaker 3: a family, how are you starting a business? How are
Speaker 3: you building financial power and prowess? All I hear is complaint, complaint, complaint, complaint,
Speaker 3: wine one wine. And I'm not fussing at you particularly,
Speaker 3: I'm saying those are the things I hear, and I
Speaker 3: was in my twenties, I had the exact same problems
Speaker 3: in college, has all the exact same complaints, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure it's way worse. But how does any of that solve?
Speaker 3: Things like do you actually think that an organic person
Speaker 3: can change politics?
Speaker 16: Do you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Go ahead?
Speaker 20: Well so so Basically, I mean I agree with you
Speaker 20: in the local aspect.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not coming here to like lecture.
Speaker 3: I want to hear your I want to hear a
Speaker 3: gen z take.
Speaker 20: Yeah, so as as gen z uh. Basically I agree
Speaker 20: with you. I think there is a lot of excuse
Speaker 20: making whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 1: I don't like using the word in cell.
Speaker 20: Because it's it's dehumanizing or or the people that just
Speaker 20: are not good with women personally.
Speaker 1: I never had that.
Speaker 20: But for me, I more so care about the the
Speaker 20: basically the excess mail crisis basically where unfortunately there is
Speaker 20: basically pseudo polygamy that's going on basically five percent of
Speaker 20: the males and gen Z are basically pogging all the
Speaker 20: other females with hookup culture and the other males. Basically,
Speaker 20: I don't get to participate in hookup culture. Don't want
Speaker 20: to be the leftover males that then marry them. And
Speaker 20: then also when you say what are you doing to
Speaker 20: start families, Well, for me, I do want to get married.
Speaker 1: I don't have that. I don't have that mentality.
Speaker 20: But for a lot of other gen Z males, unfortunately,
Speaker 20: they're scared about the divorce you know, divorce courts, and
Speaker 20: I do. Actually here there's actually a lot of local
Speaker 20: stuff that's being made in some of these states. There's
Speaker 20: a I think one of these states just recently had
Speaker 20: that fifty to fifty divorce thing that like lowered the
Speaker 20: divorce rate by like thirty percent.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I do agree with you. There
Speaker 1: is a lot of complaining.
Speaker 20: But I'm just trying to let you know from how
Speaker 20: someone that is gen Z would look at Nick and
Speaker 20: basically he just had He's just basically brutal, brutal with
Speaker 20: the racial realism, brutal with the with a tribalism.
Speaker 1: He basically calls out.
Speaker 20: Like anti white propaganda he's also for patriarchy also for.
Speaker 1: He's a nationalist. So it's not that that's just wrong,
Speaker 1: it's a distraction.
Speaker 6: That's in the sense that it's putting the wrong priority.
Speaker 1: So gen Z.
Speaker 6: Is extremely frustrated that the failed institutions, seeing the lies
Speaker 6: and kind of stuff like that, and that's that's a
Speaker 6: good thing. They're extremely fearful, which makes them easily manipulated,
Speaker 6: and so I think what Jay was saying is that.
Speaker 1: They put fourth and fifth things as first.
Speaker 6: Right, what gen Z men need to do is exactly
Speaker 6: stop complaining. It's perfectly fine to be like it's messed up,
Speaker 6: the world's messed up, and there's all these messed up things.
Speaker 6: But what gen Z young men haven't done. They haven't
Speaker 6: become men, and they're getting distracted. But like, well, i'll
Speaker 6: go over here and I'll follow because there's stuff that
Speaker 6: Nick Quinta says it's true and stuff like that. Meanwhile,
Speaker 6: they're not working on actually becoming a man. That's the
Speaker 6: problem is that, like the complaining about they can't find
Speaker 6: any women or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's like you have nothing to offer a woman.
Speaker 6: You're still a child, you're living in here, and you
Speaker 6: need to man up and put your priorities straight. And
Speaker 6: part of the problem is again Gen X, my generation's
Speaker 6: fault of not parenting.
Speaker 1: The gen Z.
Speaker 6: And I want to step up and tell them, like,
Speaker 6: stop complaining.
Speaker 1: It's legitimate complaints. I get it. Now do your job
Speaker 1: and man up and become a man and find a wife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just gonna say, they're just gonna say all
Speaker 3: day ever Sue is moving, They're just gonna whine about
Speaker 3: you saying man up. But there is something real. I know,
Speaker 3: there is a real there's a reality easy.
Speaker 6: You can be a man who is effeminate and complains,
Speaker 6: or you can get over it and the emotions can
Speaker 6: actually do your job.
Speaker 1: That's what men do. You know, It's it's perfectly fine.
Speaker 6: We don't feel well all the time and we get
Speaker 6: upset about stuff and the world's messed up.
Speaker 1: But guess what, We man up and do our jobs
Speaker 1: and you have free will. You have a choice to
Speaker 1: whether you want to do that or not. And like
Speaker 1: the gen the ten Z, you need to learn that.
Speaker 1: Then the rest of the stuff, the politics, the stuff
Speaker 1: and there's stuff that Nick says it's actually true, will
Speaker 1: be place.
Speaker 6: But it's like imagine going after that in like not
Speaker 6: taking turm.
Speaker 3: Now, that's that's what I didn't learn in my twenties,
Speaker 3: was this this idea of there's all these problems in
Speaker 3: the world. Yeah, but how are you fixing your shit?
Speaker 3: How are you fixing your situation? How are you stacking
Speaker 3: a monetary basis to have a future and a family? Well,
Speaker 3: there's no jobs, and there's and then it becomes this
Speaker 3: litany of excuses. I'm sure it's worse, but guess what
Speaker 3: I did that in my twenties. I did the exact
Speaker 3: same thing. I listed all the things that were the
Speaker 3: problems and all the problems out there that, by the way,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna fix. You're not gonna fix Washington. You're
Speaker 3: not going to change the fact that there's NGO's and
Speaker 3: there's this and that. So be practical. Think about what
Speaker 3: you can affect and what you can change in your
Speaker 3: life at the local level. And I'm not saying those
Speaker 3: other things don't matter. It's just that it's out of
Speaker 3: whack in terms of the priorities of thinking that. How
Speaker 3: But yeah, but there's uh, you know, millions of Muslims
Speaker 3: coming in. There's black people that are getting violent there's
Speaker 3: there's all of these out theres, but guess what, they're
Speaker 3: never going to go away and there's always going to
Speaker 3: be those. So you can list all the out theres
Speaker 3: all day long all you want, But why didn't you
Speaker 3: listen when I said to stack bitcoin you'd have a
Speaker 3: forty to fifty x if you'd listen to me in
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. Which I'm not a financial advisor, but I'm
Speaker 3: just saying, like, how have these people that line and
Speaker 3: complain and are your sort of archetype figures? That's fine,
Speaker 3: but has it fixed your life? Has it? What is
Speaker 3: it done? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you? Yeah? I agree?
Speaker 3: What has this done for you? Other than you sit
Speaker 3: on the internet and do what There's.
Speaker 20: A lot of good things about gim Z, but like, well,
Speaker 20: we are the most polarized for we're either far left
Speaker 20: commis or full on nationals.
Speaker 6: And I could go through each generation like the pros
Speaker 6: and cons, and so there's good things about Jim gen Z.
Speaker 6: But the downside is they have a really and it's
Speaker 6: not just being young. They have an additional factor. They
Speaker 6: have a very difficult time of introspecting, and.
Speaker 1: That's why the.
Speaker 6: Fingers always pointing at the problems, which they're really good
Speaker 6: at actually seeing it breaking through that the millennials couldn't.
Speaker 6: But what it can't see is that they're not looking
Speaker 6: at themselves. So there's three fingers pointing back to them
Speaker 6: when they point a finger at them. But like, actually
Speaker 6: the real problems yourself, which is what Jay.
Speaker 1: Said, is I can't control that stuff. I can't fix myself.
Speaker 6: And that's why there's a there's fear, there's anxiety, there's
Speaker 6: black pilled you to spoon the Yeah, because because you're
Speaker 6: being distracted and you're not actually looking at the one
Speaker 6: thing that could change all that, which is yourself.
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean you just said black black pill is
Speaker 20: a huge thing in terms of like eugenics, you know, height,
Speaker 20: facial symmetry.
Speaker 1: Basically that's like logging.
Speaker 20: That's basically the whole culture because I mean, unfortunately a
Speaker 20: lot of young men, regardless of their race, are very defeatist.
Speaker 20: I do understand that, like women do choose top five
Speaker 20: percent on dating apps and they will choose Giga Chad.
Speaker 1: I do agree in terms.
Speaker 3: Of the I don't like hold on, you're talking about
Speaker 3: women are choosing the top five percent of the dating apps.
Speaker 20: And this kind of stuff like well when they're young, yes,
Speaker 20: and then well, well it's the.
Speaker 1: Beating and switched strategy.
Speaker 20: I was trying to explain to you that, uh, there
Speaker 20: are men that will get eventually married or want to marry,
Speaker 20: but they're just angry because they didn't participate in hookup culture.
Speaker 1: I don't have that mentality.
Speaker 20: I was just explaining to you, like, that's basically the
Speaker 20: archetype that this advice is for.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: It's been what advice is for. What I mean I
Speaker 3: was I was saying, I was saying, approach people in person.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 20: I was talking about what father Annie, and I asked.
Speaker 3: Said, father Annie, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually like that. By the way, that's my new name,
Speaker 1: father Annie.
Speaker 20: I like that, you know, I mean, I agree with
Speaker 20: the think responsibility and accountability, the thing that.
Speaker 1: The gen Z guys because you were because you.
Speaker 20: Basically said it, most of them would say that, like, oh,
Speaker 20: you're just telling me to man up. It's not like
Speaker 20: I ever heard that from a boomer before. You know,
Speaker 20: Back in my day, I walked up to the winter
Speaker 20: snowy hill and then I bought my house for four
Speaker 20: thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Working at a grocery store.
Speaker 20: I mean, that's basically what a gen Z guy's going
Speaker 20: to say.
Speaker 1: But I do agree it's good gen Z men do
Speaker 1: have to take accountability.
Speaker 20: But the biggest problem, my opinion is is that young
Speaker 20: gen Z men, through the inductionation of liberalism and postmodernism,
Speaker 20: have this idea of like they're trying to put this fairness,
Speaker 20: but we all know that the world is not fair
Speaker 20: because unfortunately the strong will do what it can and
Speaker 20: the week will suffer what it must. Especially when you
Speaker 20: say God about.
Speaker 1: Gen Z though, is too an intrinsic kind of awareness.
Speaker 6: Justice and that there's an injustice like that is something good.
Speaker 1: I want to say, bats. I don't want to just
Speaker 1: be like a rip on.
Speaker 20: No, I mean, I listen, gen Z is actually very polarized,
Speaker 20: like I said, and we're not stupid. I would say,
Speaker 20: we're very neurotic in the sense of, like we understand
Speaker 20: the problems.
Speaker 1: I think there's a.
Speaker 20: Lot of I think our biggest problems that we have
Speaker 20: analysis by paralysis and we're not executing.
Speaker 1: I would say, I would that was I.
Speaker 20: Would probably say that's gen Z's biggest problem is execution.
Speaker 1: So I just like, like all my all my.
Speaker 6: Students are gen zs and so I did this experiment.
Speaker 1: On Twitter the other day that.
Speaker 6: Most I was like forty percent of people couldn't get
Speaker 6: analogies or sarcasm.
Speaker 1: And then like the whole last two weeks, I'm.
Speaker 6: In an experiment, like just doing psychological experiments, just trying
Speaker 6: to like figure out, like how do people think?
Speaker 1: And then I found.
Speaker 6: Out that like my students have never even thought about
Speaker 6: the meaning of words, they just use them. And then
Speaker 6: I was looking up some research too that all of
Speaker 6: this is like.
Speaker 1: Left bring dominant and not right brain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple great points. By the way, I'm gonna interrupt,
Speaker 3: but people are making the great point here that the
Speaker 3: big the mistake here is youthful idealism. People in their twenties.
Speaker 3: I was this way. Everybody's this way. When you are young,
Speaker 3: you are extremely idealistic. You have not spent time in
Speaker 3: the world conforming to reality. And you need to take
Speaker 3: a road trip. You need to go overseas, you need
Speaker 3: to go experience stuff. You need to go visit some
Speaker 3: crazy place, talk to women and experience these.
Speaker 1: Things criticizing we're trying to help you. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's the thing that like the.
Speaker 6: Boomer generation criticizing that's youth like we saw them as
Speaker 6: the enemies. It's like, you just don't get us, and
Speaker 6: it's like, all right, you're free to do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to help you. Yeah, I think somebody
Speaker 1: need to say.
Speaker 6: That to me when I was young, that it's just like, well,
Speaker 6: they don't get it.
Speaker 1: They're the enemy. They'll never get understand what it's like.
Speaker 1: And I saw this in my students.
Speaker 6: My student said this week too, you'll never know what
Speaker 6: it's like for us to be ten C. And I'm like,
Speaker 6: that's weird that we're pitt is against I'm actually trying
Speaker 6: to help you, and I'm doing everything I can to
Speaker 6: get out of my own perspective, my own generation, to
Speaker 6: see from your perspective, to do what, not to criticize you,
Speaker 6: but to help you.
Speaker 3: When I was in my twenties, my dad would tell
Speaker 3: me stuff like this. He would say, you've got way
Speaker 3: too idealistic an attitude about how the world needs to
Speaker 3: be run and fixed, and when you reach after thirty,
Speaker 3: you will change and you will realize it was immature.
Speaker 3: Even though all the stuff I said might have been correct,
Speaker 3: it was immature. And unrealistic to put that as my
Speaker 3: priority of thought process. Oh, I'm going to solve America's
Speaker 3: racial crisis. I'm going to solve I'm focused on And again,
Speaker 3: none of that is even saying that it's wrong. It's
Speaker 3: saying that it was a wrong focus because you were
Speaker 3: using these things as an excuse to not engage in
Speaker 3: your own improvement and focusing on the things that would
Speaker 3: have made your life in your situation better. And guess what,
Speaker 3: my dad was correct, poly diginuitism.
Speaker 1: You put it really well. I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 6: And pastorally, everything's distractions to get you from what improving yourself?
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So this whole.
Speaker 6: Issue of like even forgiveness, right, people are all upset
Speaker 6: about life. Eric Kirk forgiving her husband's murder because I
Speaker 6: didn't ask for repentance.
Speaker 1: But like forgiveness is about you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a release from the captivity of the memory
Speaker 6: of the past so you can advance to acquire the
Speaker 6: spiritual virtues, all of which Christ encapsulates. Because that's judgment day.
Speaker 6: Judgment day is not a statutory legalistic I condemn you
Speaker 6: because you didn't forgive, You're going to It's an ontological judgment.
Speaker 1: Do you look like Christ?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And that's when you mature out of the political
Speaker 3: as your idol. And I think for a lot of
Speaker 3: these faced lords because it's also a very marketable way
Speaker 3: to reach a large audience. When you mature out of
Speaker 3: the political as, you're sort of idle as your number
Speaker 3: one most important issue, most important problem. As you get older,
Speaker 3: going to realize that those things again, those things, it's
Speaker 3: not that they're not important, but like your individual ability
Speaker 3: to affect change is going to be directly proportional to
Speaker 3: what you do with your own life, not did you
Speaker 3: share this video? Did you spend enough time watching this
Speaker 3: for that streamer? Like your own focus and your own
Speaker 3: time and energy will shift by the time that you're,
Speaker 3: say thirty, I know that in my life, but when
Speaker 3: I hit about thirty to thirty three, I had a
Speaker 3: massive shift in the way that I viewed things. And
Speaker 3: you're going to change immensely from your twenties to your thirties.
Speaker 3: And you will see that everything that I'm telling you
Speaker 3: is absolutely correct, and you will look back and you
Speaker 3: will say, I wish that I put more time into
Speaker 3: that stuff in my twenties rather than all the time
Speaker 3: that I put into gaming, all the time that I
Speaker 3: put into whatever else, et ce. Like, none of those
Speaker 3: things are going going to alter and change your own life,
Speaker 3: no matter how much time and energy you put into
Speaker 3: political stuff. Morgan James twenty dollars. Here's a tip for
Speaker 3: all your hard work. Glory to the Father, to the Son,
Speaker 3: and to the Holy Spirit. Thank you, Pavel five dollars.
Speaker 3: What are your top three wikiphase songs? So that's why
Speaker 3: I had wikiphase up. I've spent probably the most time
Speaker 3: listening to Tracer I like just one thing quite a bit,
Speaker 3: and I got a little burnt out on absolute doubt.
Speaker 3: So the people who bitch about this, I got to
Speaker 3: be buddies with Wickipes some years back. I got him
Speaker 3: to buy an Orthodox Study Bible, so please spare me
Speaker 3: your whining and bitching about the fact that his name
Speaker 3: is Wickifase. The whole point was to try to get
Speaker 3: him interested in Orthodoxy, and he's asked me Orthodox questions
Speaker 3: over the years, so that's why he is on the screen,
Speaker 3: and that's why he came up. And he's a really cool, nice,
Speaker 3: personable guy. He's not a Satanist, He's not you know,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people in the millennial sphere
Speaker 3: of music take names and adopt aesthetics and themes because
Speaker 3: they think that they're cool and edgy. I don't think
Speaker 3: most people are serious about this kind of stuff, although
Speaker 3: some are. Bonsai Jungle ten dollars, Jay Sam Hide says,
Speaker 3: ignore student loans. It's not a big deal. They're sending
Speaker 3: me default notices. Should I use the money for bitcoin?
Speaker 3: Any advice? I can't give you personal advice, and Sam
Speaker 3: is probably making a joke, so I don't think you
Speaker 3: can technically just not pay them, So I'm not going
Speaker 3: to tell you any financial advice. Let's rhythm five dollars,
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Speaker 3: worth looking to. Okay, I've never heard of him, though
Speaker 3: familiar with that. Alexander Kane twenty dollars. I want to
Speaker 3: show some apretiation. God bless that you keep defending the faith. Oh,
Speaker 3: epic fail one hundred and twenty dollars. Thank you for
Speaker 3: a big, fat super chat. What are your thoughts on bitcoin?
Speaker 3: Usages within parishes. I think it'd be a great idea.
Speaker 3: What about for accepting tithes use for emergency reserves. I'm
Speaker 3: on a parish council. I'm trying to navigate this and
Speaker 3: whether I should open my mouth when it comes to
Speaker 3: the orange coin. I think it's absolutely I mean, if
Speaker 3: bitcoin is ethical money, I think it is, then it
Speaker 3: makes more sense than relying on dying fiat currency. So,
Speaker 3: but you know, if you've got a lot of boomers,
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna have a hard time convincing them of
Speaker 3: that and getting them to understand it.
Speaker 1: I like how you put that too, ethical money. That's
Speaker 1: a really good phrase.
Speaker 3: I really genuinely believe it is. Where are you having
Speaker 3: a Jamiemie in there giggling? So I thought she's giggling
Speaker 3: at ethical money? See has five dollars. You're a tyrannical reader.
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Speaker 3: you read this, but check out the film as Religion,
Speaker 3: published by New York University. The author's thesis is that
Speaker 3: films in modernity provide us of worldview that is traditionally
Speaker 3: that is the same way that religion was traditionally utilizing stories. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean not being a douchebag, but that's
Speaker 3: kind of the thesis of ester. Call itwood one rabbit
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Speaker 3: called scientology Conspiracy, black Magic, the Maitrea prophecy, and Bluebeing.
Speaker 3: I've heard you're planning a book about intelligence use of religion.
Speaker 3: How can I get this to you? You can send
Speaker 3: me an email. Sometimes I will get people's books, and
Speaker 3: people send me books via po box and shout out
Speaker 3: to the guy that sent me The Changing Images of Man,
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Speaker 3: My phone died. I guess I need you to invite
Speaker 3: me back in. I sent the invite to you in
Speaker 3: DMS h Brosie. It won't let me rejoin for some reason.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why. If I won't let you rejoin,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything I can do to make
Speaker 3: you come back other than send you the invite. And
Speaker 3: uh yeah, I forgot to plug the camera in, so
Speaker 3: the battery died. I'll turn it right back on in
Speaker 3: a second. I know you all want to see my
Speaker 3: beautiful hot cop face. Since there hypocrite week in site
Speaker 3: at gimmedical councils and can of laws. How come a
Speaker 3: Catholic can't give you a list of execathed savements amidst
Speaker 3: the lynchpin of Catholicism. Fair question, Yeah, exactly measured monitor.
Speaker 3: What's up? I mean the other thing I was going
Speaker 3: to say about politics, I mean, to change the political landscape,
Speaker 3: you need to be very wealthy, right, I mean you
Speaker 3: need to have hundreds of millions of dollars, if not
Speaker 3: billions of dollars to really affect change in politics. Now
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean you can't be involved, but I'm saying
Speaker 3: the expectation of actually affecting large scale change requires large
Speaker 3: scale wealth, and so unless you have that, it's just
Speaker 3: rather a shifting I think of one's priorities is kind
Speaker 3: of what I'm getting at. But I think for a
Speaker 3: lot of guys, somebody said a lot of young guys
Speaker 3: are just going to have to go through that phase. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that's true, right. I mean I was having
Speaker 3: very similar thoughts, very similar complaints in my twenties and
Speaker 3: I just had to grow out of that phase. So
Speaker 3: probably you can't talk a young guy out of the
Speaker 3: phases that he's in he's gonna have to sort of
Speaker 3: go through those phases himself. But I think one thing
Speaker 3: that when you're older you kind of feel sad about
Speaker 3: when you talk to younger guys is younger guys don't
Speaker 3: really It's like they don't really want wisdom or insight.
Speaker 3: They want to complain. They want you to recognize that
Speaker 3: they know it all, and they're not interested in your
Speaker 3: takes or your insights or your understanding. And you know,
Speaker 3: if that's the case, you know, you just you got
Speaker 3: to kind of let people go do their thing and
Speaker 3: learn on their own, and then eventually, I think people
Speaker 3: come around and then they're like, oh, you know what
Speaker 3: I should because I should have listened to my dad
Speaker 3: when I was younger and I was arrogant and full
Speaker 3: of myself, I thought I knew it all, I had
Speaker 3: it all figured out. He doesn't understand. You never understand that.
Speaker 3: But in a sense, it's true, because no one's experience
Speaker 3: is identical to somebody's else. But but I think the
Speaker 3: boomer generation, for the most part, lacked a lot of wisdom.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean that they had no wisdom because
Speaker 3: a lot of the practical things that the boomers sort
Speaker 3: of obsessed over and we're all about were correct measured?
Speaker 3: What's up? What's on your mind? Measured? I'm mute.
Speaker 1: Only cal I didn't know I requested.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, okay, sorry, uh euros. Yeah again, you got
Speaker 3: to use wisdom. These aren't one size fits all. Some
Speaker 3: guy says keV says my dad was a gay libtard.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I didn't listen to him. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying you listen to boomers on everything. I mean a
Speaker 3: lot of boomer insight. It will get you ill, right,
Speaker 3: Like my dad tried to tell me to join military. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm really glad I didn't listen to him. I'm really
Speaker 3: glad I didn't join the military. So I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that it's a but I'm saying, like in terms of
Speaker 3: certain practical things, like I don't know, Like I remember
Speaker 3: my I write this book one time, and I was
Speaker 3: trying to tell my dad about it and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're telling me about all this intellectual stuff. But he's like,
Speaker 3: do you have any assets? And I thought my dad
Speaker 3: was being a douchebag when he said that, and it
Speaker 3: made me mad, and I was like, but looking back.
Speaker 3: I'm like, now, wait a minute, he's actually correct. Like
Speaker 3: I wasn't focused on like getting my stuff situated. I
Speaker 3: was reading these books about geopolitical stuff and there's all
Speaker 3: these conspiracies and this and that, and my dad had
Speaker 3: a great point and it made me mad, probably because
Speaker 3: he was right and I didn't want to really think
Speaker 3: about it. Oh, ros, what's up? I'm you're cutting in
Speaker 3: and out? What's up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have to fill them up in I've been
Speaker 1: listening to The Lost twenty.
Speaker 3: I can't hear you, man, ask your question because you're roboting.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the team going into bait?
Speaker 3: Can you hear me on your roboting? Ask your question?
Speaker 3: Just ask the question. Now you mitted yourself, all right,
Speaker 3: so waste time? Liam? What's up? Yeah? Hello, Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 1: Hey, lazy?
Speaker 17: Thank you for helping me convert father. You could be
Speaker 17: a witness to this.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: You and Alex were integral to me. And I just
Speaker 1: want to ask.
Speaker 17: Somebody who's converting an orthodoxy what can be our role
Speaker 17: to basically come bad, probably be a thorn at the
Speaker 17: devil's side and all this geopolitical warfare, like.
Speaker 3: Just straight well, I mean, like I said, don't worry
Speaker 3: first and foremost about geopolitics because that, as a young man,
Speaker 3: is not going to be the thing that you can
Speaker 3: affect much change in. So I'm not saying you can't
Speaker 3: be interested in those things or learn about those things,
Speaker 3: but it's not going to be the top of your priority, right.
Speaker 3: Your priorities are going to be getting straight, religiously speaking,
Speaker 3: and then you know your business prospects because unless you're
Speaker 3: going into monastic life, like, you got to think about that.
Speaker 3: You got to think about how am I gonna support
Speaker 3: a family? How am I going to provide for them?
Speaker 3: What am I going to do? So that's that's your priorities.
Speaker 3: And you know what Putin is doing and what Bazilenski
Speaker 3: is doing. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but like
Speaker 3: that's lower down on your on your strata, on your tiers.
Speaker 3: So that's what you're thinking. Can you talk to a girl,
Speaker 3: have you ever been on a date? What are you
Speaker 3: going to start a business? That's what you need to
Speaker 3: think about. That's what the system doesn't want young white
Speaker 3: dudes doing that stuff. That's what they're concerned with. They're
Speaker 3: happy to have you sitting on the internet. All day
Speaker 3: long watching whatever, because that's not going to do anything
Speaker 3: in the world. But having a family, having kids, building
Speaker 3: a business, getting into Orthodoxy, those are the things that
Speaker 3: the system absolutely does not want. You're doing, Dustin, what's up?
Speaker 3: I'm mute, Guys, when you come on, I'm mute, Dustin,
Speaker 3: I'm mute. You have to turn your MIC's on, guys,
Speaker 3: or it's not gonna work. Hayden, what's up, hey, Jake?
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hey, I had a quick question. First off, I want
Speaker 4: to say thank you for your program. Definitely has helped
Speaker 4: me leave me to Orthodoxy, So thank you.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see if you.
Speaker 4: Had any thoughts on Chuck Grassley's most recent comments.
Speaker 3: Who I don't even know what is that he I
Speaker 3: think it was either yesterday or the day before he
Speaker 3: had put out.
Speaker 1: I can't remember where it was. I apologize, but pretty much.
Speaker 4: Called the Patriarch of Russia a KGB member, which I
Speaker 4: know is inflammatory, but I know you you know geopolitics.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to see.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the the Hitler youth, like anybody
Speaker 3: in Germany at that time, like Cardinal Ratzinger was a
Speaker 3: member of the Hitler youth, because they would put everybody
Speaker 3: into these categorizations and into this structure. So he was
Speaker 3: not a member of the KGB, but he had a
Speaker 3: name that everybody like that was given in the Soviet Times.
Speaker 3: If you watch my podcast I did with Metropolitan Jonah
Speaker 3: on the history of the KGB and their relationship to
Speaker 3: the Russian Church and the KVD, they had that strata
Speaker 3: and tier classifications. So people who have no knowledge of
Speaker 3: any of this, they just assumed that everybody in Russia
Speaker 3: was in the KGB, and all the church was the
Speaker 3: KGB church. No, in fact, many of the church was
Speaker 3: Many members of the church were persecuted, and so there
Speaker 3: were listings of bishops that were compromised, possibly compromised, uncompromisable,
Speaker 3: et cetera. And so there's all these different strata and
Speaker 3: to just categorize everybody as if their KGB is just
Speaker 3: retarded and stupid. I don't know who even is that
Speaker 3: a senator? I mean, I don't keep up with all
Speaker 3: this like gay political shit, so I don't even know
Speaker 3: who that is or else. You want to try again,
Speaker 3: borros Bro, You're a connection man. It's just not gonna work.
Speaker 3: We can't you're not you're not even connecting, Gabriel. What's up.
Speaker 3: So we got a lot of young guys at the church,
Speaker 3: for example, and they're all great dudes, and what what happens.
Speaker 3: I'll talk about the first wave of guys that converted. Right,
Speaker 3: most of those guys are now married. Okay, the guys
Speaker 3: that converted back in twenty eighteen. Orthodoxy changed those guys.
Speaker 3: Many of them are becoming clergy deacons, priests.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 3: And many of the ones that I know, well, they're married.
Speaker 3: So they moved in the right direction. They were having
Speaker 3: many of the same complaints. Women suck blah blah blah. Well,
Speaker 3: seven eight years later, where are we. Well, they're starting
Speaker 3: families and they're doing fine. They're doing great, they're writing books.
Speaker 3: They were benefited and moved in the right direction. They're
Speaker 3: not whining and bitching about politics all day online. Some
Speaker 3: of them live in horrible Canadian UK socialist hellholes, and
Speaker 3: they're still making it. So the guys at church right
Speaker 3: when I met some of those guys when they converted,
Speaker 3: I'm talk about guys eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty five, et cetera,
Speaker 3: similar situations. Their lot has improved. So this idea of
Speaker 3: like adopting some sort of ridiculously insane, blackpilled nihilistic attitude
Speaker 3: is immaturity and father Deacon and nice is absolutely correct. Gabriel,
Speaker 3: what's up on you?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 21: One of the things that I think is pertinent to
Speaker 21: what we were talking about earlier is, you know, with
Speaker 21: the trend of kind of red pilled young guys. I
Speaker 21: think there's tendencies that are unhelpful, like we've been talking about,
Speaker 21: but two of them that I think deserve to be
Speaker 21: discussed are atomization and humanism. Namely, like you know, it's
Speaker 21: very easy for somebody who realizes what's going on in
Speaker 21: the political sphere too, just be atomized, you know, maybe
Speaker 21: attend some kind of church, but they're not really integrated
Speaker 21: into community.
Speaker 1: They hang out in comment sections. It's really easy.
Speaker 21: It's not you're not building bonds at a community level.
Speaker 21: You know, you're not actually going and talking to a
Speaker 21: girl because it's easier to just say women.
Speaker 1: Are trash blah blah blah.
Speaker 21: Right, sometimes you have, you know, a point, but like
Speaker 21: many of our own problems too. But you know, our
Speaker 21: society really struggles with people being atomized, and we don't
Speaker 21: have bonds that you know, our grandparents were great grandparents,
Speaker 21: their generations did.
Speaker 1: So that's one problem.
Speaker 21: And I think another one would be, you know, any
Speaker 21: kind of like you know, political movement on the right.
Speaker 21: The temptation is to you know, not let these problems
Speaker 21: like religion really divide the movement. You know, we just
Speaker 21: need to kind of like subjugate these things like they're
Speaker 21: not you know, we need to not really talk about
Speaker 21: these things. But everyone's aware that, you know, like everyone's
Speaker 21: aware that you know, politics is on stream of culture,
Speaker 21: right Yeah, Well, like you know, culture is downstream of religion,
Speaker 21: and these people they don't like they will just put
Speaker 21: that off and not talk about it and try to
Speaker 21: have some kind of like you know, alliance between like Catholics, Protestants,
Speaker 21: you know, your neo pagan LARPers and like you know,
Speaker 21: like all of a sudden and it's damned from the
Speaker 21: start or it's doomed from the start, right, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 21: what do you think about that?
Speaker 3: No, I think you nailed nailed it right there. That's
Speaker 3: those are huge issues. I would totally agree with that,
Speaker 3: appreciate that call for sure. Gabrielle. What's up.
Speaker 22: So I'm from Warren Michigan, and I was wondering if
Speaker 22: I could tell you a little bit about what it's
Speaker 22: like here. Sure, So it's actually still very American. There's
Speaker 22: certain city blocks that have all Bengali stores.
Speaker 1: There's several Muslim ethnicities that live here.
Speaker 22: So you've got Bengali's, you've got a lot of Arabs,
Speaker 22: you've got Yemeni's, some Bosnians, but the majority of the
Speaker 22: population is still Caucasian and African American.
Speaker 1: And in Hamshrak next.
Speaker 22: Door, at the town next door, there was an attempt
Speaker 22: by the police department, which is run by Yemeni or Arabs,
Speaker 22: to make the badges have.
Speaker 1: The name of the department in Arabic.
Speaker 22: As well as English, and it was rejected by the
Speaker 22: Americans who are disturbed at that. So they actually tried
Speaker 22: to delete their ex posts promoting it because yeah, they
Speaker 22: didn't want to fan the flames of right, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Those were So is it?
Speaker 3: Is it like there's got to be some sort of
Speaker 3: large scale Democratic Party kickback scam that's going on, Like, like,
Speaker 3: is it because they're blue cities and there's this Democrat
Speaker 3: crime network that's like making these cities entirely Muslim, Like
Speaker 3: how is this actually happening.
Speaker 1: Oh, that is definitely it.
Speaker 22: I think Texas particularly is uh under attack for its
Speaker 22: known conservatism, and that's why they've promoted the immigration of
Speaker 22: Muslims to their trying to create epic city and also
Speaker 22: the promotion of LGBTQ. Actually lived in Victoria, Texas once
Speaker 22: and almost everyone.
Speaker 1: Was lgbt Wow, So it was it was not a
Speaker 1: place to be. Yeah.
Speaker 22: But yeah, Warren Michigan, it's it's just like what they're
Speaker 22: doing in Europe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And by the way, exactly, and this is coming everywhere.
Speaker 3: Somebody said, I'm in Chattanooga, there's no Muslims. Yeah, just wait,
Speaker 3: because I went coast to coast ten years ago, and
Speaker 3: we went coast to coast multiple times in the last
Speaker 3: couple of years. And I'm telling you it's coming. And
Speaker 3: there's Muslims and mosques being built everywhere. There's moss now
Speaker 3: on Indian reservations, so giant moss and Islami Center is
Speaker 3: being built here in Florida. It's being paid for by Saudi's.
Speaker 3: And oh but you won't talk about the Jews, even
Speaker 3: though we just did a multiple documented sourced podcast on
Speaker 3: Israel today. You dumb right wingers, You're the stupidest people
Speaker 3: on the plane. You're as dumb as the leftist almost
Speaker 3: most of you right wingers out there, and you guys,
Speaker 3: many of you are your own worst enemies. Put that way, Paul,
Speaker 3: what's up?
Speaker 1: Man? Can you hear me? Hey? So, yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic.
Speaker 23: I'm gen Z and uh, my friends are all like
Speaker 23: pretty big nick Flints fans, And I wouldn't necessarily say
Speaker 23: that I'm like a fan of any particular political person,
Speaker 23: but I'm kind of you know, I dabble a little bit.
Speaker 23: Nick Fuents has stuff. But like when I originally joined,
Speaker 23: it was actually like in regards to like an earlier
Speaker 23: discussion you had kind of just generally about like Roman
Speaker 23: Catholic thinking, and when I it's it's interesting you guys
Speaker 23: were talking about what you were talking about, because my
Speaker 23: wife and I were having like this discussion for the
Speaker 23: past two days about the concept of Muslims and Jews
Speaker 23: worshiping the same God as the Christians and like I
Speaker 23: think Father, and then I pointed this out during like debate,
Speaker 23: which is basically like the way that Roman Catholics think
Speaker 23: is fundamentally different from how like Orthodox think about theology.
Speaker 23: And one of the ways is specifically, as he pointed out,
Speaker 23: with natural theology.
Speaker 3: And yeah, which Muslims also believe.
Speaker 23: Yeah, and you know, the way I kind of came
Speaker 23: to Christianity was actually through a transcendental argument.
Speaker 3: How did you end up in Rome then? Because Rome doesn't.
Speaker 23: No I understand. I'm a cradle Catholic and I was atheists,
Speaker 23: well not really atheists, but I was more of like
Speaker 23: kind of like, oh, yeah, God exists and stuff, and
Speaker 23: he wants me to take drugs and everything. I was
Speaker 23: kind of one of those guys and on your videos
Speaker 23: and you're debate with Matt Della Hunty and it it
Speaker 23: drove drove me.
Speaker 1: Back into Christianity.
Speaker 23: And so the kind of the journey of like Orthodoxy
Speaker 23: and Catholicism is kind of just like an ongoing journey.
Speaker 23: I'm in your discord and stuff, but I'm currently as
Speaker 23: it stands, like I go to FICSP Parish and and
Speaker 23: everything like that. I am going to be seeing Father
Speaker 23: Moses this weekend. He's doing a talk somewhere.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say where.
Speaker 23: I don't want to dox his location, but yeah, Anyways,
Speaker 23: what I was gonna say about that in particular was
Speaker 23: just like when other people think about Christianity, they don't
Speaker 23: really or see it in like this worldview type way
Speaker 23: of thinking. Because you know, we were talking my wife
Speaker 23: and I and she was saying, how like, just because
Speaker 23: you know a religion is getting part of it wrong,
Speaker 23: doesn't mean that they're not following It doesn't mean they're
Speaker 23: not worshiping the same God as us.
Speaker 3: So but but hold on, because that would then mean
Speaker 3: that Muslims and Jews also worship the same God, right right, Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: and so that's not true then, right, because I mean,
Speaker 3: are any of the triad Roman Catholics going to say
Speaker 3: that Jews worship the same God?
Speaker 1: They would have to. I mean, like in your.
Speaker 23: Debate with like Timothy Gordon, that was clearly like a
Speaker 23: big issue right there, because you could tell he's there
Speaker 23: the whole time, and this is as you know, like
Speaker 23: this is a thing that's like the big issue with
Speaker 23: like traditional Catholicism is like we want to be traditional.
Speaker 1: We want to kind of look back on like the church.
Speaker 23: How it used to be, right, and we want to
Speaker 23: kind of pretend that we're still all there mentally, but
Speaker 23: like the reality is is like the Church itself is
Speaker 23: not actually there with us.
Speaker 1: And like.
Speaker 23: Specifically with like the conclusion I kind of came to
Speaker 23: it was like, yeah, like if you have this like
Speaker 23: natural theology type of way of thinking where God is
Speaker 23: accessible no matter where you are, then the logical conclusion
Speaker 23: is that, yeah, we do all worship the same God religion.
Speaker 23: But the thing that's distinct with like Orthodoxy that I've
Speaker 23: noticed is that if there's one thing missing that's like
Speaker 23: not true within that worldview, the whole worldview collapses. And
Speaker 23: I found it interesting too when you're talking about TAG
Speaker 23: and one video, because you're explaining.
Speaker 1: How like you explained the video you.
Speaker 23: Made was why you can't use TAG for any other worldview,
Speaker 23: And the point you made was because you can't use
Speaker 23: TAG for a worldview that's wrong, like it has to
Speaker 23: be the correct worldview. Yeah, So like just just like
Speaker 23: so you can't be like, oh, yeah, TAG works for
Speaker 23: Orthodoxy and it works for Romantholicism and Islam and stuff
Speaker 23: like that.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think you've hit on a key
Speaker 3: issue here, and I appreciate they'll call Paul, and I
Speaker 3: encourage you to keep pursuing where you're going and talk
Speaker 3: to Father Moses or go hear him or whatever. Because
Speaker 3: this seems to be uh, the seemingly the most obscure part,
Speaker 3: but also the most essential part, which is presubpositional thinking.
Speaker 3: Because we might think that this doesn't really have anything
Speaker 3: to do with what we're talking about. No, it actually does,
Speaker 3: because if you take the Roman Catholcy natural theology route,
Speaker 3: it's going to lead you to the Vatican two route
Speaker 3: of we all worship the same God and just use
Speaker 3: the word God. Oh really, then why are you not
Speaker 3: joining with Muslims and Jews? Oh? Well, it turns out
Speaker 3: Muslims don't think we worse with the same God. Turns
Speaker 3: out Jews don't think we worse with the same God.
Speaker 3: So it's a construct that the other religions don't believe
Speaker 3: they're all worse being the same God. So who really
Speaker 3: believes this? Well, Roman Catholics and perennialists. Okay, why if
Speaker 3: I'm a Roman Catholic would I not be a perennialist?
Speaker 3: And guess what, Many Roman Catholics go the rout of
Speaker 3: perennialism and then that takes them off into paganism. And
Speaker 3: whatever else occultism. Who like, there's all different way as
Speaker 3: you could go with that. So then what's Christianity? Well,
Speaker 3: turns out Christianity is not natural theology and perennialism. It's
Speaker 3: the one that says the Triune God is not the
Speaker 3: God of the Muslims and not the God of the Jews.
Speaker 3: And this is I think the fork in the road
Speaker 3: that you're forced to choose. This is the difficult decision here.
Speaker 3: You want authentic Christianity, which isn't gay papism, or you
Speaker 3: want what we got over here. I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: a it's I mean, it might be a difficult choice
Speaker 3: for each of you individually, but like in terms of
Speaker 3: what we're talking about here, it's it's kind of obvious, right, Like,
Speaker 3: I mean, you got the pope up here quoting the
Speaker 3: Talmud talking about ticking Alam, and yet you guys want
Speaker 3: to talk to me about Judaism and Zionism. Give me
Speaker 3: a freaking break. When are you going to call out
Speaker 3: your Judaized papacy? And then I'll listen to you talking
Speaker 3: about Zionism. What's up? Live?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 24: Oh my gosh, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm in my early twenties. I'm from Australia.
Speaker 24: I grew up in the Roman Catholic Church, and then
Speaker 24: I actually went to a New Age for a fe
Speaker 24: but I left that I came back to Jesus and
Speaker 24: then I went back to them in Catholic Church, and
Speaker 24: I realized that they weren't really giving me like proper rules,
Speaker 24: like with like lens. They were giving me like very different,
Speaker 24: like they didn't even tell me how to past properly,
Speaker 24: like the days were different. I had to do my
Speaker 24: own research and like, yeah, I was really satisfied with
Speaker 24: that with the church, the local one that I go to.
Speaker 24: But I've been seeing a guy that's Orthodox, but I
Speaker 24: have been it's not because of him that I've been
Speaker 24: like looking into Orthodoxy. I've been like listening to you
Speaker 24: for a bit and like also doing other research in
Speaker 24: my own time. And I've been going to an Orthodox
Speaker 24: church with him for a few times.
Speaker 1: And I really like the Orthodox Church.
Speaker 24: And I was wondering, like what you would suggest for me,
Speaker 24: like where I should go?
Speaker 3: Now, No, you should continue that quest. You should you know,
Speaker 3: inquire and and look into becoming a catechuman. I would say,
Speaker 3: get a book, like uh, you know, Two Paths by
Speaker 3: Michael Welton. Get a book like Michael Palmezansky's Dogmatic Theology
Speaker 3: for catechisis you should, you know, ask that the the
Speaker 3: priest about being catechized.
Speaker 24: Catechized? Okay, I was going to ask you something else.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm going to say something.
Speaker 3: Well, if you think about it, you can come back
Speaker 3: and just say request to speak. But I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, keep keep I mean, you're not going to
Speaker 3: find what you're I can guarantee you're not going to
Speaker 3: find it at your nervous sort of churches. And although
Speaker 3: you might find more camaraderie in terms of political conservatism
Speaker 3: and right wing theology at the SSP X or the FSSP,
Speaker 3: what you're eventually going to find out is that that's
Speaker 3: not Roman. Also, you're not going to be able to
Speaker 3: restore and bring back this Tridentine era or this medieval
Speaker 3: you know, Templar era. Catholicism. Rome has dogmatized liberalism, Marxism
Speaker 3: and socialism and Gaudium at Spez. So if you want
Speaker 3: to be political ideologues and have political idolatry, fine, how
Speaker 3: are you going to have traditional monarchies and Catholic governments
Speaker 3: when Gaudium at Spez has openly adopted Marxism socialism, so
Speaker 3: let's let's stick to political then okay, fine, we're gonna
Speaker 3: have a political religion. How are you going to have
Speaker 3: tradism when Gaudium Spez teaches Marxism socialism, and I go
Speaker 3: watch my live stream where I'd prove that, oh, I
Speaker 3: don't have to follow gaudiums Yes you do. Where did
Speaker 3: you get the idea that you don't have to follow
Speaker 3: Vatican documents and Vatican improved teachings? Where did you get
Speaker 3: this idea? Who taught you this? Uh? Well, I saw
Speaker 3: one time a trad say on Twitter that it's optional.
Speaker 3: No it's not. It's called ordinary magisterium. You have to
Speaker 3: follow it. And who's Sayeran? Who's Sarian? What's that name?
Speaker 1: Hey? Jay?
Speaker 25: I had a question from what you were talking about earlier,
Speaker 25: when you were talking about like how a lot of
Speaker 25: young guys are always looking to like politics.
Speaker 1: And maybe putting too much energy there or too much time.
Speaker 1: How much would you.
Speaker 25: I mean, I don't know how much you would have
Speaker 25: to say about like how important you might think it
Speaker 25: is for like not even politically speaking, but like for
Speaker 25: like Orthodox people in America to like organize or like
Speaker 25: work together help each other out. I know the Greeks
Speaker 25: and the Serbians do this really well, but like with
Speaker 25: the influx of like Americans and like converts, I don't
Speaker 25: know if that's like I mean, you guys have conferences
Speaker 25: all the time.
Speaker 3: So maybe, Bro, we got people that sleep at the church.
Speaker 3: We help people out. I'm not joking you, I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm in serious. There's people that needed a place to stay,
Speaker 3: they slept at the church.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow.
Speaker 25: Do you think that that itself could like plan too
Speaker 25: pushing Orthodoxy further in America so to speak.
Speaker 3: Yeah, our church tripled in the last three years, right right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is blowing up everywhere. It's definitely blowing up
Speaker 1: in Chicago where I go.
Speaker 3: Oh good good, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean a
Speaker 3: great question, and uh, you know, yeah, we definitely do
Speaker 3: help and try to help people for sure, when we
Speaker 3: see that they're serious. We don't just like you give
Speaker 3: anything to anybody, but no, we absolutely absolutely help people out. James,
Speaker 3: what's up? And I think you're right to look at
Speaker 3: that being a means and the methods of networking for sure.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Man? Hello, Yeah, I'm gonna talk to you. I just
Speaker 1: want to ask.
Speaker 9: So, I'm Catholic, but I try to be like as
Speaker 9: open as I can. I'm very open towards Orthodoxy. I
Speaker 9: don't have anything against it. I know it's a lot
Speaker 9: of times when you're talking to Catholics they try to
Speaker 9: bring up the keys, like that just.
Speaker 1: Gave the keys to Peter.
Speaker 9: But I would always, like I think, in my own arguments,
Speaker 9: I always try to tend toward the fact that Peter
Speaker 9: is named Rock.
Speaker 3: Okay, but what does any of that have to do
Speaker 3: with proving what Vatican One says? Because I could agree
Speaker 3: to all that stuff, how does that make the papacy true?
Speaker 1: Do you mean like the infallible papacy or just that.
Speaker 3: The doctrines of Vatican One.
Speaker 1: That the pope has more power over the other bishops. No.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but are you
Speaker 3: not familiar with Vatican One?
Speaker 1: No? No, like I'm still very new. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't try to be.
Speaker 3: So what you have to defend is not the idea
Speaker 3: of a bishop of Rome with successors, because you understand
Speaker 3: that Antioch and Alexandria derived their's accession from Peter. Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: So why do Antioch and Alexandria not have infallibility?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 9: I think the main argument that I've heard for that
Speaker 9: would be that Peter died.
Speaker 1: In Rome and that's where he primarily left.
Speaker 3: Right, okay, So how does that follow Peter dies in Rome,
Speaker 3: so therefore infallibility?
Speaker 1: Well, I think because that's where the actual successor of
Speaker 1: Peter would have been.
Speaker 3: You just admitted that Peter's successors are also in Alexandria
Speaker 3: and Antioch.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but where he died, like the seat that
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: Why does dying therefore mean that there's infallibility there and
Speaker 3: not in Antioch and Alexandria.
Speaker 9: Well, I would say that's because that's where Peter actually was,
Speaker 9: not other people who.
Speaker 1: Were in this.
Speaker 3: Do you not understand that Peter's successors are also in
Speaker 3: Antioch and Alexandra? Okay, Okay, Peter's successors, apostolic succession in
Speaker 3: Antioch and Alexandria, even the Roman Catholic Church admits, come
Speaker 3: from Peter himself. Okay, okay, So why is there infallibility
Speaker 3: only in Rome and not in those other two?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 9: This is just like a common objiction, I really wanted
Speaker 9: to answer, so I appreciate it, I do it.
Speaker 1: Okay't ask one more question or do you want to
Speaker 1: move on?
Speaker 3: Well, but I feel like we haven't gotten to the
Speaker 3: point because the question is why would the infallibility just
Speaker 3: be in Rome?
Speaker 9: Well that was like my old point, but you just
Speaker 9: kind of like explain to me why that wouldn't be
Speaker 9: sufficient in defending its right.
Speaker 3: So it wouldn't follow just because he died there. Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: where do we get the idea that because a person
Speaker 3: dies there that confers infallibility but it doesn't con I mean,
Speaker 3: is there something missing in the succession that he gave
Speaker 3: to Antioch and Alexandria.
Speaker 1: Perhaps I'll just have to consume more research on that thing.
Speaker 3: You can, but I can guarantee you, having been in
Speaker 3: Roman Catholic, you will not get an answer other than
Speaker 3: it just is the case.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you for answering.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's your next question?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, this one was more about Islam. I saw
Speaker 1: one of your previous videos.
Speaker 9: I'm not sure how old it was, but you claim
Speaker 9: that Muslims that since God can't become human, but that
Speaker 9: his uncreated word can be materially manifested in the Quran,
Speaker 9: and that like in and of itself, is a sort
Speaker 9: of incarnation where something uncreated.
Speaker 3: Because I didn't claim that I pointed out a problem
Speaker 3: in their theology, that's that's their position.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's a historic debate within Islam about the
Speaker 3: eternal Koran and how is it in time and space?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 9: Great, But I've brought that point up like before to
Speaker 9: people just kind of discussing it, and I'll always get
Speaker 9: pointed out that, like I guess God is a word manifesting.
Speaker 3: Sorry, it's not. It's they believe in an eternal Qur'an.
Speaker 9: Okay, but wouldn't you agree that that's the God's like
Speaker 9: actual word being inscribed is different than God living as
Speaker 9: a human being.
Speaker 3: Okay, But it misses the point though, of is the
Speaker 3: Qoran the eternal speech of Allah? And if so, then
Speaker 3: how is it in time and space? Yeah? Of course
Speaker 3: it's different from the second person of the Godhead being
Speaker 3: in time and space. But if the Muslim objection is
Speaker 3: Allah cannot be in time and space, then how does
Speaker 3: the Qoran accurately tell you about anything of Allah? If
Speaker 3: it's a mirror of the eternal Koran, which is, by
Speaker 3: the way, not the same thing as a law. So
Speaker 3: the fact that it's different is missing the point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we realized the Quran is not the same thing as Jesus.
Speaker 3: The point is that the problem metaphysically is the same.
Speaker 3: How does this action or attribute of Allah somehow enter
Speaker 3: into time and space?
Speaker 9: And you point out that that goes against what Islam teaches,
Speaker 9: but not what Christianity teaches.
Speaker 1: Hope that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 3: The metaphysical problem is the same, and they're moving the
Speaker 3: goalposts for their position. They're same. Our position doesn't have
Speaker 3: a problem. It just is the case. The Quran is
Speaker 3: in time and space. But if Allah cannot be in
Speaker 3: time and space, then how is the Quran equivalent to
Speaker 3: the eternal Kuran? Do you not understand?
Speaker 1: Okay, I can, I can see a little more.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was just like getting conformation, But I do
Speaker 9: understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a it's a double standard to where
Speaker 3: they're saying for their position, they just get a free pass.
Speaker 3: It just is okay, But how is the Quran in
Speaker 3: time and space an image of or a version of
Speaker 3: an eternal Qur'an that is not a lot. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think you're not getting what the
Speaker 3: issue is.
Speaker 1: Like sea that they kind of they move, they set
Speaker 1: up a problem for us that they have the exact
Speaker 1: same problem.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, okay. And by saying the exact same problem,
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that it's the same with It's like
Speaker 3: they believe that it's it's the same metaphysical problem with
Speaker 3: two different topics.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I see that, thank you.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to do that. I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to be rude. I'm explaining to people specifically to get
Speaker 3: the point. There's another thing too that people need to understand,
Speaker 3: like like when a man talks to another man, it's direct,
Speaker 3: it's forthright. Men should be that way. Yes, you could
Speaker 3: be a douchebag. But when I was in my twenties
Speaker 3: and when I would talk to older men, or when
Speaker 3: I would talk to my boss or my manager, I
Speaker 3: was always getting butt hurt because oh it was you.
Speaker 3: It's because men should talk to men in a certain way,
Speaker 3: and young guys knew to be able to be talked
Speaker 3: to by an older man in that way without getting
Speaker 3: their feelings hurt. So got to stop being so emo,
Speaker 3: young guys, Julian, what's up. I'm not talking about that guy.
Speaker 3: We had a great conversation. I'm talking to the people
Speaker 3: in the chat. There's people in the chat saying, what
Speaker 3: a normal conversation between a man and another man where
Speaker 3: there's an instruction going on. That's not being mean. If
Speaker 3: you think that's being mean, you've got to get you
Speaker 3: need to check yourself. What's up man, Julian? What's up? Guys?
Speaker 3: If you call in, you got to have your permissions
Speaker 3: turned on. Brandon, what's up? Oh hey, Jay, what's on
Speaker 3: your mind?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 26: So I converted to Eastern Orthodoxy a couple a couple
Speaker 26: of months ago.
Speaker 1: Most some of my family is pretty supportive. I would
Speaker 1: say most of my parents.
Speaker 26: But my external family like grandparents, uncles and stuff, they're
Speaker 26: they're not big fans.
Speaker 27: But but my dad in particular, like he's kind of
Speaker 27: like in limbo right now, Like he sees the problem
Speaker 27: with Protestancy of productism.
Speaker 1: I was just completely divided the church throughout the history.
Speaker 26: Like he acknowledges this, but he's but he's not ready
Speaker 26: to like go over to an ancient, an ancient church.
Speaker 1: But he's interested.
Speaker 26: He's been coming to the services sometimes, but he still
Speaker 26: can't get past Perry Stone's dispensationalism. And I've explained this
Speaker 26: to him and he just sent me a video. So
Speaker 26: I it basically comes down to authority from what I understand,
Speaker 26: Like my authority is the Orthodox Church, and his authority
Speaker 26: is this guy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I get that, but also like dispensational
Speaker 3: Like I came out of dispensationalism as a Protestant, and
Speaker 3: so what got me out of dispensationalism when I was
Speaker 3: Protestant was the Bible and seeing that there's one unified
Speaker 3: plan that God has within history in every era with people,
Speaker 3: and he deals you could say in different ways at
Speaker 3: different times, but that plan is literally just one group,
Speaker 3: one city of God, one people of God in history,
Speaker 3: and that is in Christ at all times. And once
Speaker 3: I understood that, once I read the Book of Hebrews,
Speaker 3: once I understood covenant theology in the Bible, like that
Speaker 3: made dispensationalism go away.
Speaker 26: Well, I will say, well, maybe I should have been
Speaker 26: more clear. He's he's more fixated on the pre trip rapture,
Speaker 26: but he didn't know that the pre trip rapture came
Speaker 26: from dispensationalism and then pointing this out to him, it's
Speaker 26: like he.
Speaker 3: Still had his So he needs to understand partial preterism
Speaker 3: and that the Bible is a unified, covenantal relationship that
Speaker 3: God has with people. It's not chopped up nonsense. There
Speaker 3: is no thousand year Jewish kingdom. That's all a bunch
Speaker 3: of Judaized nonsense. So I would say, try to get
Speaker 3: your dad to watch the stream that we did on
Speaker 3: dispensationalism right here. You could get him to read. Even
Speaker 3: Bonson and ken Gentry have a book that's a great reputation.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's their Protestants, but in the
Speaker 3: mind of a Protestant, I remember the phases, and if
Speaker 3: you want to take into that next phase, they have
Speaker 3: a book called I Think House Divided and that you know,
Speaker 3: those critiques were enough for me to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: dispensationalism is ridiculous. This is stupid. So you could if
Speaker 3: he's not ready for Orthodox stuff, you could get him
Speaker 3: to read something like Bonson or ken Gentry as a
Speaker 3: next phase out of dispensationalism. So and then if he's ready,
Speaker 3: to get him to read something like Days of Vengeance
Speaker 3: by by David Chilton Circle Jerk, get a landline like
Speaker 3: the old Times Brochacho, then more black Heber Israelites will
Speaker 3: call in from my personal entertainment. You know, it's been
Speaker 3: We did have one black Heber Israelite call about a
Speaker 3: month ago, but he was the first one in probably
Speaker 3: a year, so uh yeah, it's kind of difficult to
Speaker 3: get those guys. Keem, what's up? Keem? What's up?
Speaker 1: Hello? Can you hear me?
Speaker 28: In regards to your first topic about your stream, I
Speaker 28: think how.
Speaker 3: Extra young guys which one?
Speaker 1: Oh no, just like stream quality?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 29: I think a lot of young guys see the streams
Speaker 29: that don't have like crazy animations and you know, big
Speaker 29: slide shows and don't think that they're legit. You know,
Speaker 29: they see the kind of like early twenty tens kinds
Speaker 29: of graphics and think, oh this is guy's just like
Speaker 29: some consider conspiracy boomer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 28: I think that's like one thing you could improve that's
Speaker 28: pretty easy, just like add animations and stuff.
Speaker 3: Like what not like a.
Speaker 28: Person, but like animated transitions and stuff like that, or
Speaker 28: like push your aesthetic to the foreground because like with
Speaker 28: that templark kind of guy they they people attach themselves
Speaker 28: to aesthetic very very closely.
Speaker 3: Gotcha. Well, I'm not going to go with some retarded
Speaker 3: templar shit. That's dumb. But what what what do you?
Speaker 3: What do you suggest?
Speaker 1: I like your vapor wave aesthetic, but I would say,
Speaker 1: like you could.
Speaker 29: Uh, I don't know, just like go a little bit
Speaker 29: harder with to see how that works, or you can
Speaker 29: tone it down and kind of make yourself more like
Speaker 29: a coffee room smoke break kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, I'll play around and test out some some
Speaker 3: I's appreciate that. That's good stuff, Adam. What's up? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I'm open to aesthetic changes. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 3: this isn't Bloomer conspiracy shit, so I don't but maybe
Speaker 3: I'm conveying the wrong message here. What's up, man, Adam,
Speaker 3: I'm you.
Speaker 1: What's going on, Jane?
Speaker 3: What's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 30: That's it, man, Like I just wanted to just come
Speaker 30: on here and talk about pretty much past this past summer.
Speaker 30: I kind of went down a rabble hole with Christianity
Speaker 30: and I discovered Orthodoxy and I actually just attended my
Speaker 30: first Catechism class this past Tuesday. And yeah, thanks man, man,
Speaker 30: pretty much. I told my family about it. My girlfriends
Speaker 30: really supported for it. She's down to like kind of
Speaker 30: dive into everything with me and kind of like go
Speaker 30: along the journey.
Speaker 1: But my family.
Speaker 30: They're just kind of like I think the main thing
Speaker 30: they're tripping out about is the icons, and like, you know,
Speaker 30: just because like the typical like belief is like a
Speaker 30: lot of Protestants and what nights. Oh you know, it's
Speaker 30: idolatry and everything. But to me, and just for context,
Speaker 30: I'm not the most like I'm not the most knowledgeable
Speaker 30: in terms of theology and like scriptures, I haven't I
Speaker 30: haven't even finished like reading a whole Bible with myself,
Speaker 30: but I do know like in Scripture, for example, you
Speaker 30: know the way that God's people treated Dark of the
Speaker 30: Covenant and the Bronze Serpent for example, Like me, if
Speaker 30: I'm wrong, No.
Speaker 3: Those are those are icons exactly.
Speaker 30: Yeah, they're they're representations of God's divine, divine nature.
Speaker 3: So well, they're not the divine nature, to be clear,
Speaker 3: and with Orthodoxy, we don't say that because that would
Speaker 3: be idolatry. There is no image of the nature, but
Speaker 3: there are iconographic representations of the divine, and that would
Speaker 3: be divine persons, that's what I mean, or even angels.
Speaker 30: So yeah, right, yeah, just like exactly like you said, representations.
Speaker 1: So it's funny.
Speaker 30: Like what I'm trying to say is that it's funny
Speaker 30: because I can break down like when I explained to
Speaker 30: them the I guess you could say, the core values
Speaker 30: of Orthodoxy, like in terms of the way the few, baptism, salvation,
Speaker 30: the Euchrist, for example. It's like the when I break
Speaker 30: it down like that, then as soon as I mentioned
Speaker 30: the icons, everything gets done out the window, and it's
Speaker 30: like to me, it's just it's it's just kind of
Speaker 30: strange to me. I don't I don't see why, I like,
Speaker 30: the icons is such a hard thing to get through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when I mean, I had a phase
Speaker 3: like that where I struggled with that issue when I
Speaker 3: was Protestant and I was, you know, looking at the
Speaker 3: Catholicism back in two thousand and three, and I remember
Speaker 3: just eventually it was obvious to me, right, But uh,
Speaker 3: I think what he was talking about. I think is,
Speaker 3: you know, you see a lot of videos and we
Speaker 3: have one of the clips channels actually does this, which
Speaker 3: is at tending. You know, he's attempting to appeal to
Speaker 3: a younger crowd is like moving animations or things happening
Speaker 3: on a screen while I'm talking. Right, So a lot
Speaker 3: of times people will be playing a video game, like
Speaker 3: Destiny's whole crowd is him talking degenerate bullshit while he
Speaker 3: plays some stupid video game. And you know, for younger people,
Speaker 3: that's what they're used to. So you know, I could
Speaker 3: let patch in Jim Bob's face continue moving here. I mean,
Speaker 3: I get it that that's what younger people are used
Speaker 3: to and they're into and they have this they need
Speaker 3: the constant stimulation or whatever. But I think also, like,
Speaker 3: hopefully hopefully that did you guys hear me when that
Speaker 3: was going? Was it muted or could you guys hear me?
Speaker 3: Can you guys hear me?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 3: Heolo? It might have been muted when I was doing that,
Speaker 3: hope not. But I think that's a tough one because
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think these other streamers, they don't
Speaker 3: have a lot of constantly moving animations, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I don't think Candice Owen has constant
Speaker 3: anime going or video game like when she's talking, and
Speaker 3: yet she's got you know, massively, you know, a much
Speaker 3: bigger audience. But also you know, they're not doing she's
Speaker 3: not doing live streams, she does pre recorded, highly produced premieres.
Speaker 3: Everybody's an iPad kid. Yeah, I understand that. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that's something people need to
Speaker 3: be healed from. So I don't know that I could, Like,
Speaker 3: I've tried yapping over video games and nobody comes. Nobody
Speaker 3: watches that I'm not gonna play retard kid games. And
Speaker 3: if that means my audience is small, then it is
Speaker 3: what it is. But yeah, I mean into people's suggestions
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe maybe I'm just forever going to
Speaker 3: have not a large audience, which if that's the way
Speaker 3: it is, that's the way it is. Young Bloomer, what's up, dude?
Speaker 1: Hello, yep, hey Jay. I had a couple of questions
Speaker 1: or I guess comments too.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: The first thing.
Speaker 31: Was I noticed in a stream you mentioned how the
Speaker 31: Coptic are kind of like Muslims in a way.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 31: That triggered a memory of mine of being at church.
Speaker 31: Somebody was visiting and a coffee hour there was pork
Speaker 31: and they like kind of flipped down about it and
Speaker 31: they're like, well, the coptics, we don't need pork. And
Speaker 31: it's sort of like, you know, he didn't flip out
Speaker 31: about it, but I'm pretty sure that kind of just
Speaker 31: over well, they're.
Speaker 3: They're judy eyed, they are are openly well, it's well
Speaker 3: known they're judaized.
Speaker 31: Right, So I mean, anyway, that's just I guess anecdotal, but.
Speaker 3: It's kind of I didn't even know they had dietary
Speaker 3: judaized views, but it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It was a weird vibe, like he was really disgusted.
Speaker 1: It just was like really awkward.
Speaker 31: But anyway, the other question I had was encountering atheists,
Speaker 31: you know, and their arguments about evolution. And I know
Speaker 31: you've gone over this before, but you know, I spoke
Speaker 31: to a guy who was convinced that there was no
Speaker 31: gaps in the fossil records.
Speaker 1: There was no you know.
Speaker 31: He was just like, you guys just got to do
Speaker 31: the research, dude, And I'm like, well, to my knowledge,
Speaker 31: you know, there are massive gaps and there's massive jumps.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've not heard an atheist just outright deny that,
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm not surprised that they would. I mean,
Speaker 3: you kind of can get people nowadays will just claim
Speaker 3: anything and everything. So but it looks like the angle
Speaker 3: and the vector by which they will try to come in.
Speaker 3: And I did see Trump's discussion today or was it
Speaker 3: yesterday whenever. He was talking about the UN yesterday today,
Speaker 3: and he did say some good things, and then he
Speaker 3: said something not good. He mentioned some form of Internet
Speaker 3: AI proof of identity surveillance that was bad. So I
Speaker 3: don't know necessarily that that would connect to stable coins.
Speaker 3: But what looks like is this plan. And I think
Speaker 3: with the EU and those countries, it's a lot more
Speaker 3: dangerous that they do want to explicitly bring in the
Speaker 3: track traced CBDC, probably some form of a stable coin
Speaker 3: CBDC quote unquote. H No, the xpace hasn't crushed. I
Speaker 3: don't know why it's telling you it's unavailable. It's not crushed,
Speaker 3: but I might have blocked you and that's why it's
Speaker 3: I don't know that's why it's not available. But apparently
Speaker 3: there's a couple of things going on. So the first
Speaker 3: thing is the Genius Act is relating to the stable coins.
Speaker 3: And when it came out, I was confused, even as
Speaker 3: a person very interested in and very into crypto, all
Speaker 3: of this legal ease, and I had no idea what
Speaker 3: the heck is the point of it. I think what's
Speaker 3: going on is and I don't know exactly how it's
Speaker 3: gonna work with stable coins, but it seems like Michael
Speaker 3: Saylor presented this idea that Trump could establish a Bitcoin
Speaker 3: strategic reserve. Somehow the US dollars could be put into stables,
Speaker 3: inflate the stable coins because they're fiat, and then this
Speaker 3: would devalue the actual debt. So let's go into this
Speaker 3: because this is going to relate to probably volunteer stuff
Speaker 3: and probably European CBDC stuff. I don't exactly know how,
Speaker 3: but let me show you this video which I watched
Speaker 3: last night, which is really good, and this guy lays
Speaker 3: out what appears to have been Sailor's suggestion. And the
Speaker 3: idea is that you devalue the debt so that we
Speaker 3: don't actually end up paying anything significant because the dollars
Speaker 3: are devalued, which is the debt is dominating the dollars. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: you prop up the US with a Bitcoin strategic reserve,
Speaker 3: which is the hardest asset. Everybody else gets paid in
Speaker 3: this devalued fiat stable coin. This is what the Russian
Speaker 3: guy is saying is the real Trump plan to cross
Speaker 3: out the debt. Then all of the other countries holding
Speaker 3: US debt get left holding empty, worthless fiat bags. The
Speaker 3: US is saved through bitcoin. I don't know. This is wild.
Speaker 3: Of course, all of us on the bitcoin side, it's
Speaker 3: all out of our hands, and all of us on
Speaker 3: the bitcoin solid side, we're gonna be really rich.
Speaker 32: But let's see, one of Vladimir Putin's closest advisors said
Speaker 32: something that got a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: I made a k priama see, but it's a pamina.
Speaker 32: He said, the United States is preparing to use crypto
Speaker 32: and stable coins to secretly devalue it's entire thirty seven
Speaker 32: trillion dollar debt.
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Speaker 1: So should I be saying it?
Speaker 32: He says, the United States is plotting to put that
Speaker 32: debt into a crypto cloud, which would reset the system,
Speaker 32: basically leaving the rest of the world just holding the bag. Now,
Speaker 32: this might sound like some crazy theory, but a version
Speaker 32: of this story has been said before by billionaire CEO
Speaker 32: of micro Strategy Michael Saylor.
Speaker 3: See this is what so I heard months ago. Uh
Speaker 3: listened to a lot of Michael Sailor's talks and lectures.
Speaker 3: I remember him talking about this, but I didn't put
Speaker 3: two and two together that that's what the Russian do
Speaker 3: was talking about. And then Uh, one of the girl
Speaker 3: that's on one of these channels, let's see it's is
Speaker 3: this channel I think she collected together. This is it
Speaker 3: the Michael Sailor clips where Michael Sailor talks about what
Speaker 3: he proposed to Trump a while back. So here is
Speaker 3: the original. Here's the clips of Sailor talking about it
Speaker 3: over the last several months, what he proposed to Trump.
Speaker 3: And that's what this guy is talking about that the
Speaker 3: Russian analyst guy is talking about.
Speaker 32: He actually advised President Trump to quote, dump all the
Speaker 32: US gold and buy bitcoin.
Speaker 33: Dump your gold, sell all the US gold, buy bitcoin.
Speaker 33: Then the trade is free because you could buy five
Speaker 33: million bitcoin for the cost of the gold. You will
Speaker 33: demonetize the entire gold asset class. And our enemies hold
Speaker 33: gold in their banks, so their assets would go to zero.
Speaker 33: Our assets would go to one hundred trillion dollars, and
Speaker 33: we would control the world's reserve capital network. As well
Speaker 33: as the world's reserve currency network.
Speaker 3: This is crazy because I remember when he was saying
Speaker 3: all this. All I was thinking of is, oh, if
Speaker 3: they have a bitcoin strategic reserve, everybody who has a
Speaker 3: big one is going to go to a million dollars easy,
Speaker 3: at least eight hundred thousand to a million right away,
Speaker 3: as soon as if the government dumped the gold and
Speaker 3: bought that. But then I didn't even think about it. Well, now,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, what would this mean geopolitically, Well, it
Speaker 3: would mean that the US could never First of all,
Speaker 3: US can't pay back this debt of thirty seven trillion.
Speaker 3: So there's a old school banker trick where you devalue
Speaker 3: the currency so that you're paying back the debt with
Speaker 3: a worthless amount. So, in other words, if I owe
Speaker 3: you one hundred dollars, and I devalue the currency to
Speaker 3: where the purchasing power of the one hundred dollars is
Speaker 3: equivalent to two hundred dollars, Right, so I've doubled the
Speaker 3: I've devalued the currency by two by two x. Right.
Speaker 3: What if you destroyed the value of the dollar and
Speaker 3: thus the debts were paid back in worthless currency. This
Speaker 3: is an old banker trick, and this guy will explain
Speaker 3: this and be like, that's what they're talking about. Potentially
Speaker 3: that's why the Russian I'm not saying, I know that
Speaker 3: this is exactly what they're doing, but that's what the
Speaker 3: Russian guy is saying, is that that's the plan, which
Speaker 3: is pretty crazy. Maybe that's why it's called the Genius Act.
Speaker 3: Like WHOA, that's insane. Now, that would be wild, and
Speaker 3: all of the other countries holding US debt in dollars
Speaker 3: would mean they're holding worthless bags. That's crazy. I mean,
Speaker 3: it does sound like an evil scheme, but this is
Speaker 3: like what bankers and Federal Reserve. That's what they've always done.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know if that's what they're doing, but
Speaker 3: that's what this is about, as you'll see right here.
Speaker 32: The thirty seven trillion dollar question, though, is is how
Speaker 32: realistic is this and would this actually work? Because I
Speaker 32: think the answer is it's not just gonna work. It's
Speaker 32: going to be inevitable, and I think it's going to happen,
Speaker 32: not exactly in that way, but that's what I'm gonna
Speaker 32: help explaining today's video. I want to show you what
Speaker 32: Putin's Advisor exactly said, and how the US will devalue
Speaker 32: it's thirty seven trillion dollars worth of debt with stable
Speaker 32: coins and bitcoin. It's a really interesting story.
Speaker 3: So with that said, once the world is this is
Speaker 3: what everybody's starting to think about. Wait a minute, is
Speaker 3: this what this is about? Because if you remember when
Speaker 3: this came out, like, yeah, what if you pay back
Speaker 3: thirty seven trillion dollars by just printing thirty seven trillion
Speaker 3: stable coin dollars? This is so crazy, But when you
Speaker 3: listen to this it sounds insane and impossible. Then you're like, well,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, that's what they're gonna have to do,
Speaker 3: And then you're like, dude, that's crazy.
Speaker 32: There he says, it's gonna move it's huge thirty seven
Speaker 32: trillion dollars worth of national debt into assets like stable
Speaker 32: coins and then devalue it, which would essentially wipe the
Speaker 32: slate clean.
Speaker 3: The other thing, too, is like if they do that,
Speaker 3: the other countries wouldn't accept the stable coins. But if
Speaker 3: you drop the dollar, like if the dollar gets destroyed,
Speaker 3: like it won't matter anyway, It won't matter whether they
Speaker 3: accept the stable corn or not. Would it be instant war?
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I mean, it's hard to say,
Speaker 3: like it's such a crazy sort of scenario. It's almost like,
Speaker 3: but now I understand what Michael Sailor was saying. All
Speaker 3: of our enemies would be left holding bags that'd be
Speaker 3: an empty bag basically.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 32: Second question then, is what does it actually mean to
Speaker 32: devalue the debt and how does that work?
Speaker 3: So here goes.
Speaker 32: Imagine that the whole world is just worth this one
Speaker 32: hundred dollar bill. Let's say I borrow all of it, right,
Speaker 32: every single dollar, and now I owe and I have
Speaker 32: to pay it back. The problem is paying it back
Speaker 32: the hard way means I have to pay it back
Speaker 32: and give it back right. But luckily I have a
Speaker 32: special superpower because I control the world reserve currency.
Speaker 3: Basically, this is the money printer a scam, right, So
Speaker 3: hold my dollar bags, bro, while I print dollars and
Speaker 3: leave you holding empty dollar bag.
Speaker 32: So instead of repaying it back with the same one
Speaker 32: hundred dollar bill I just borrowed, I could just create
Speaker 32: another one hundred dollars bill out of thin air. Well,
Speaker 32: now the world doesn't just have one hundred dollars in
Speaker 32: circulation anymore. It now has two hundred dollars, which is
Speaker 32: now trying to buy all the same things in the
Speaker 32: world because we didn't make more stuff.
Speaker 1: So what happened to you?
Speaker 3: Especially think about, you know, how Siba you knew is
Speaker 3: denominated and like trillions? What if what if Sheba knew
Speaker 3: became the stable coin for the for the US global debt.
Speaker 3: It's like, then you just destroy she but you knew
Speaker 3: and everybody's holding like worthless sheep. I mean it wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's funny because when you start thinking
Speaker 3: of these numbers of like trillions of dollars or trillions
Speaker 3: of debt, and then you think about, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: this is like exactly how sheba is a denominated, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: What's the market cap? Off she knew is nine billion?
Speaker 3: But there's like a trillion or how many trillions of
Speaker 3: them are in supply? Five hundred trillion? Shiba is the max.
Speaker 3: So why don't we just denominate all the US debt
Speaker 3: and she sheba coin and then it'll go to work.
Speaker 3: It'll be worth nothing. And then I'm joking, but it
Speaker 3: does sound like that level of denomination.
Speaker 32: Alert big Next, the price of all those things goes up. Right,
Speaker 32: Things like real estate, stocks, gold, especially the things everybody wants,
Speaker 32: they all go up. The groceries used to pay a
Speaker 32: dollar for now costs too. Everything becomes more expensive because
Speaker 32: again the supply of money doubled, but the supply of
Speaker 32: stuff stayed the same. That's inflation. Now, when I go
Speaker 32: to give you back your one hundred dollars, it looks
Speaker 32: like I just repaid you back in full, but in
Speaker 32: reality I cheated because now your one hundred dollars bill
Speaker 32: doesn't buy you the same amount of stuff because I
Speaker 32: diluted the money, so it now only buys you half
Speaker 32: as much. I devalued the debt.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 32: What most people don't realize, though, is that this is
Speaker 32: literally the oldest trick in the book, and in a
Speaker 32: lot of ways, it's how the United States has been
Speaker 32: paying for its debt this whole time.
Speaker 3: So what if you just did that in total with
Speaker 3: the thirty seven trillion through some stable coins.
Speaker 32: Devaluing doesn't mean defaulting, it doesn't mean not paying back.
Speaker 32: It means to lower the real value of that debt
Speaker 32: through inflation or currency manipulation. And this has happened over
Speaker 32: and over again verset. It's decay, things get cheaper over time,
Speaker 32: and that's how it should be.
Speaker 3: Right, you get the idea, So I'm giving ahead to
Speaker 3: where he kind of brings it back to the Genius Act.
Speaker 32: Here measury, and under the Genius Act, it says only
Speaker 32: approved issuers like banks, trust companies, or non bank firms
Speaker 32: can get special approval. They can issue regulated dollar backed
Speaker 32: stable coins in the United States. So if Apple or
Speaker 32: Meta want to, they could create their own currency like
Speaker 32: metaoin right, all they got to do to get approval
Speaker 32: is just suck up to the president a little, Right,
Speaker 32: how much.
Speaker 3: Are you spending would you say over the next few years.
Speaker 18: I mean, I think it's probably going to be something like,
Speaker 18: I don't know, at least six hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 32: Show your loyalty, spend a little bit of money. And
Speaker 32: that's why stable coins are going to play such a
Speaker 32: huge role in the devaluation of our debt.
Speaker 3: It's kind of if the US would switch to bitcoin
Speaker 3: to relieve its debt, it would tank bitcoin. No, No,
Speaker 3: you're missing the point. The switch would be relieving the
Speaker 3: debt with the stable coin, because that can be infinitely
Speaker 3: inflated to devalue the debt. What would purchase the bitcoin
Speaker 3: would be the government's gold holdings. According to Michael Sailor strategy,
Speaker 3: that would make a bitcoin immediately go to a million dollars.
Speaker 3: So you're misunderstanding what the point is free yourselves. The
Speaker 3: argument is not that bitcoin becomes the US debt. It's
Speaker 3: that the US debt is unpayable, so we trick everybody
Speaker 3: by paying it in a worthless inflated thing, the stable coins,
Speaker 3: not Bitcoin. The real value is no longer the US
Speaker 3: dollar based on stable coin. The real value is the
Speaker 3: US holding a bitcoin, which was previously gold, sold and
Speaker 3: dumped and switched to bitcoin, and as Sailor argued, to
Speaker 3: sell all the US gold and buy bitcoin also tanks
Speaker 3: the gold market and all the countries holding gold. So
Speaker 3: you see this is like imagine, this is like bond
Speaker 3: level stuff, like it's it's evil genius stuff. But if
Speaker 3: you hold bitcoin, you're.
Speaker 32: You're you're gonna win CBDC level.
Speaker 3: I don't know that this is going to happen, but
Speaker 3: this is what he's saying. You're missing the.
Speaker 32: Point money, and that's why stable coins are going to
Speaker 32: play such a huge role in the devaluation of our debt.
Speaker 3: It's kind of see that. That's a hug. That's the
Speaker 3: whole point. That's so crucial. You devalue the debt, you're
Speaker 3: not devaluing bitcoin. Bitcoins going to the moon, especially if
Speaker 3: this shit happens. If this shit happens, I'm retiring dog
Speaker 3: like I'm done. I mean I'm not done. I'm done
Speaker 3: doing the grind. I will be making my DJ dong
Speaker 3: butter techno songs and comedy videos, and I'll be having fun.
Speaker 3: I won't have to worry about no damn grind no more.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 32: DBDC level of control without the CBDC brand. Now here's
Speaker 32: why the rest of the world wants no part in
Speaker 32: any of them.
Speaker 3: This is why everybody else gets screwed of.
Speaker 32: This, and we know it doesn't because of how much
Speaker 32: gold the world has been buying. That's what's happening to
Speaker 32: gold right now. Countries are like, we don't want your
Speaker 32: stable coins. Give us gold because it was the greed
Speaker 32: upon standard for thousands of years.
Speaker 3: But if they go to gold, as Michael Saylor said,
Speaker 3: and the US dumps all the gold for bitcoin, gold
Speaker 3: ain't gonna work as a hedge against that. Thus, the
Speaker 3: only hedge would be bitcoin. I don't know if I
Speaker 3: remember if that's where this guy goes. But we got
Speaker 3: a couple of super chats and the I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: you guys go because of stream twice today and we've
Speaker 3: gone for another three hours. Let's see the super chats.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for calling in calling next time. Apologize
Speaker 3: if you didn't get in this time. We've got Mud says,
Speaker 3: don't hate it, but I kind of think buying land
Speaker 3: is better than bitcoin. The problem is that bitcoin will
Speaker 3: be more valuable than land. And I made the mistake.
Speaker 3: Even though I put everything except for some ass that location,
Speaker 3: which was three properties, I put everything into bitcoin. I
Speaker 3: now wish I had put the properties into bitcoin. So
Speaker 3: I don't think you're correct in that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you can't have any land, but I
Speaker 3: would not think that land is going to do better
Speaker 3: than bitcoin in the long term. Somebody was like, oh,
Speaker 3: gold went up more than bitcoin. Yeah, like in the
Speaker 3: last few weeks, dude. I'm looking to the next five
Speaker 3: to ten years, Dude. I'm not worried about the immediate chart.
Speaker 3: Circle man has made many denominations, believes in traditions. Why
Speaker 3: not just read the good book? Get a Greek in
Speaker 3: Hebrew study Bible. That's actually pretty funny. Yeah. Look, I
Speaker 3: just believe in the Bible, but I got to learn
Speaker 3: Greek and Hebrew. H Bryan, five dollars. Another thing you
Speaker 3: can do to grow your channel is Patreon. Yeah, Patreon
Speaker 3: did not treat me very well, so I am a
Speaker 3: fan of rock Fin. Rock Fin actually ended up over
Speaker 3: the last several years paying me in so much ethereum
Speaker 3: that I just bought Bitcoin the entire time. Every time
Speaker 3: I would get paid in their native coin built on ethereum,
Speaker 3: I would flip it into ethereum and then it's a
Speaker 3: big one. So that's way better than anything Patreon would
Speaker 3: have ever offered me. Kyle, five dollars organized a better playlist?
Speaker 3: You're right at you need to update those good points.
Speaker 3: By the way, thank you guys for all your suggestions.
Speaker 3: You guys are making really good suggestions tonight on what
Speaker 3: to do to make the content better that you guys
Speaker 3: would find more interesting. Jeremiah, what's up, Poppy? What's up
Speaker 3: without your Poppy? What cold wallet do you use? I've
Speaker 3: experimented now with several and I'm sure some people are
Speaker 3: gonna have complaints. I do still use my Ledger. Still.
Speaker 3: I have also a Blockstream Jade, which I enjoy, and
Speaker 3: I also have a Solona secerphone. Even though I am
Speaker 3: a bitcoin supremacist, I am interested in the features that
Speaker 3: a Solona secrephone has, namely an integrated crypto whilet in
Speaker 3: the phone, but you can also get apps and store bitcoin.
Speaker 3: I would not store a significant amount of bitcoin in
Speaker 3: a hot wallet, but if you do need to pay
Speaker 3: for stuff and you do need to interact, there are
Speaker 3: certain features that certain other blockchains have that Bitcoin does
Speaker 3: not yet have, such as the ability to cover small
Speaker 3: transactions in a meaningful way. And I am impressed with
Speaker 3: the idea of a integrated while And also, and I'm
Speaker 3: not telling you to be interested in other chains. Again,
Speaker 3: I'm always been bitcoin supremacist, but I do suspect and
Speaker 3: even if you read Ciphidine's book, he admits, like, look,
Speaker 3: there's just certain things Bitcoin can't do. And even Sailor
Speaker 3: has admitted that something will happen with stable coins. And
Speaker 3: I don't think Ethereum has the ability to handle stable coins.
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, there's USDC, but the problem is, like
Speaker 3: the transaction fees and the speed of Ethereum is just terrible. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's I know about all the problems of centralization all that,
Speaker 3: so I'm not trying to get into a crypto debate,
Speaker 3: but I am. I wanted a wallet that was easily
Speaker 3: quickly accessible for small transactions, and we all know bitcoin
Speaker 3: is not yet built for that. So I've not experimented.
Speaker 3: I did have a tree, or I did not like
Speaker 3: the trees, or so that's my thought on that. Jeremutten
Speaker 3: to see rabbit hole dot wiki five dollars sent the
Speaker 3: research document to Antonio. It's worth the read. The fifties
Speaker 3: violator is lit, by the way, Thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I'll check it out. JB. Peltier, five dollars, Thank you
Speaker 3: so much. Now we got a bunch more supercessive here.
Speaker 3: By the way, here's the rest of this guy's video.
Speaker 3: I'll give you if you want to watch the full discussion,
Speaker 3: and I will give you the other video where this
Speaker 3: girl has collected together all of the previous Michael Saylor's
Speaker 3: statements on it. Well, the way I've always said, if
Speaker 3: people want to gamble on the other ones, it's gambling.
Speaker 3: And if you if you want to experiment with holding
Speaker 3: stable coins and getting some sort of returns or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's all gambling. That's up to you. Unfortunately, we are
Speaker 3: still at a stage where there is some need for
Speaker 3: these things like tether, these need for these other things,
Speaker 3: they're to a degree still needed. Yes, I'm aware I
Speaker 3: have the strike app. I've not exactly gone full in
Speaker 3: on paying everything with bitcoin because in my situation, Jake
Speaker 3: so Jack Mahler's has a big company, right, and so
Speaker 3: it probably works for him to pay everything in bitcoin.
Speaker 3: But if I pay everything in bitcoin, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: hit with a massive capital gains tax of cashing out
Speaker 3: to pay everything in bitcoin. So whereas Alex Alex is
Speaker 3: on his channel, That's what we discussed at the beginning. No,
Speaker 3: not all money is fake. Bitcoin is real money. So
Speaker 3: the thing with all of the other chains and all
Speaker 3: these other things, all these other tokens. Although even as
Speaker 3: Sailor has been forced to admit it's not clickbait, I've
Speaker 3: on the damn show. I've been hosting the Alice Jones
Speaker 3: Show for five years. You can get out of here.
Speaker 3: So bitcoin to twenty k No, dude, Bitcoin's going to
Speaker 3: a million. I believe by twenty thirty. Anyway, I suspect
Speaker 3: that if there will be a move towards the stable coins.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even talking about the whole thing of
Speaker 3: the US genius evil genius plan to tank everything through
Speaker 3: stable coins. I don't know if that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: That's just a wild thing. I suspect that Solana will
Speaker 3: be the next logical place for US stable coin adoption.
Speaker 3: I'm not trolling. What do you mean about trolling. I'm
Speaker 3: not telling you it'd be pro Slona. I understand its centralized,
Speaker 3: the network can be shut down. I know all that.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what I think is the reality.
Speaker 3: What's going to happen. Let me put I'll put I'll
Speaker 3: say this if I if I gambled on some other coin,
Speaker 3: I would immediately put into a bitcoin. And I don't
Speaker 3: gamble with a lot. No, I don't have volunteer stock.
Speaker 3: I don't own any stock. Although one of the things
Speaker 3: that Solana is interested in doing is making stocks tradable
Speaker 3: on the blockchain, which you can't do that and with no,
Speaker 3: I'm not trying about million dollar bitcoin. You can't do
Speaker 3: stocks on bitcoin. Really, Solana is the only chain that
Speaker 3: could do stock. I guess technically Ethereum could but Ethereum
Speaker 3: is just it's just annoying, man. And I mean I
Speaker 3: can't totally hate it because we got paid in ethereum
Speaker 3: from Rockfin.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 3: I don't think those coin could be a stickin. It's
Speaker 3: weird because stable coins are their own whole world, and
Speaker 3: there's a lot of that world I don't really understand.
Speaker 3: I was watching a bunch of podcasts on stable coins
Speaker 3: today after all this stuff with the evil genius theory,
Speaker 3: but I don't even I don't even know it's it's
Speaker 3: really complex. But I think whether whatever you think, even
Speaker 3: if these are evil blockchains, like whatever you think of it,
Speaker 3: I think that probably the most likely chain to take
Speaker 3: on and compete with Ethereum for this would be Solana.
Speaker 3: That means that there's massive upside there. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: would immediately if I made money with Salona, would immediately
Speaker 3: convert it to biitcoin. Bro, you've got to be trolling
Speaker 3: about what what are you talking about? You think? I
Speaker 3: mean I've been I was buying bitcoin when it was
Speaker 3: eighteen hundred, two thousand dollars. Yeah. I don't think XRP
Speaker 3: will pull it off, dude. I don't think they're going
Speaker 3: to do it. I mean, I don't understand what you think.
Speaker 3: If bitcoin went to one hundred and twenty five one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty three thousand, why would it not go
Speaker 3: to two hundred five hundred a million. No, it's never
Speaker 3: too late because I mean, look, if bitcoin goes to
Speaker 3: a million in five years, I mean, we basically get
Speaker 3: a ten x every five years. Now, that's not guaranteed,
Speaker 3: and I'm not telling you what to do, but if
Speaker 3: you are interested in getting started with bitcoin, which is
Speaker 3: only the only thing that I would really stand behind
Speaker 3: in terms of crypto is because I am a bitcoin supremacist.
Speaker 3: There is my swine big coin Leak get started with
Speaker 3: bitcoin right there. It's a bigcoin only company. Air sign
Speaker 3: says a ten X in six years, I would say
Speaker 3: it's around that. Yeah. Ripple is like Illuminati coin. I
Speaker 3: would I would stay away from Ripple. There's nothing about
Speaker 3: Ripple that I like. Boomers are never going to understand crypto,
Speaker 3: but it won't matter. And I'm not trying to be
Speaker 3: rude or macab I mean the boomers are pretty much
Speaker 3: going to be out of activity in five to ten years,
Speaker 3: so I mean that wealth will be going down to
Speaker 3: the next generation. If the stable coined devaluation genius evil
Speaker 3: genius experiment doesn't happen. I mean, I don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I was surprised to see Michael Saylor admitting the potentiality
Speaker 3: for Solana, though. That was kind of surprising, being that
Speaker 3: he's such a Bitcoin maximalist. But I mean, I think
Speaker 3: he realizes that Bitcoin will not be able to do
Speaker 3: certain things that the centralized change will do, even though
Speaker 3: there's definitely a trade off. And that doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: I'm saying those are good. I think those things are
Speaker 3: gonna They're very dangerous and we don't want I mean,
Speaker 3: in other words, if the stable coin thing happened, that
Speaker 3: would be a thing that they were gonna. They're gonna
Speaker 3: dump that on the rest of the world. So there
Speaker 3: might be a it might go crazy in the in
Speaker 3: the short term, but I wouldn't think about it long term.
Speaker 3: Who bought at the wrong point and missed out? What
Speaker 3: does that mean anyway? JB. Five dollars. Let's say we
Speaker 3: get more over here, Elijah five dollars. I can't wait
Speaker 3: for the al Quida Part two. Yes, I'll have this
Speaker 3: book read in the next few days and we'll do
Speaker 3: the Part two. What's the bitcoin book? Well, there's two.
Speaker 3: There is Thank God for Bitcoin from the Christian perspective,
Speaker 3: and then there is Yeah COSPA is an Israeli crypto,
Speaker 3: and then there is Cipher Dean Almos's book Bitcoin Standard,
Speaker 3: which we did a whole talk about cryptographic five dollars.
Speaker 3: This off topic. I'm a believer in Christ. I'm finding
Speaker 3: my way. I was wondering if you could talk about
Speaker 3: dispensationalism versus the Orthodoxy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Check out the video that we linked earlier on dispensationalism.
Speaker 3: Just type in dispensationalism. There's my four hour discussion on
Speaker 3: Jim Bob's channel. That's the one that you that's one
Speaker 3: you want to watch. Paisio is five dollars. Politics is downstream.
Speaker 3: Politics and culture downstream from religion, democracy and versal suffers.
Speaker 3: Don't make secularism and pre lesser great enemies. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: David Grade twenty dollars. Thank you. Enjoyed your stream today
Speaker 3: was Richard Grove. His autonomy sounds interesting. Yeah, he teaches
Speaker 3: how do you think an Orthodox person should view the
Speaker 3: idea of self empowerment? Richard's talking about the domain of
Speaker 3: like business so's he's not telling you to start your
Speaker 3: own religious cult. He's talking about how to start a
Speaker 3: business and change your mindset on your day to day activities.
Speaker 3: Jay Dyer or JB. Pelty. I hate to say it,
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Speaker 3: I don't know specific books, just on Bolsheviks. Yowan Ratu
Speaker 3: book in the Milliner Fabian Conspiracy is good and deals
Speaker 3: with that quite a bit in the first hundred pages.
Speaker 3: Anthony Sutton's books are good on that circle. Two dollars.
Speaker 3: Day Goes all Night, Brian five dollars. No, that we
Speaker 3: already read that, big brother. The problem is people are
Speaker 3: stuck in it left right dialectic when in real reality,
Speaker 3: that's all part of a revolutionary paradigm. Yes, the attack,
Speaker 3: it's an attack on a thousand year plus history of
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Speaker 3: It's very difficult to convey that to the uneducated populace,
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