WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Warning. This episode contains graphic crime scene detail. Please listen

2
00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.799
<v Speaker 1>with discretion. All witnesses, suspects, and purses of interest are

3
00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:11.279
<v Speaker 1>considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

4
00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk

5
00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.320
<v Speaker 1>right now in true crime, and then together we're going

6
00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to work on warming up some pulled cases. Let's go. Hey, guys,

7
00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>welcome to this week's episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie.

8
00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:27.079
<v Speaker 1>We are going to get into a little right now

9
00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.160
<v Speaker 1>in true crime. Right off the bat, I have Elec

10
00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Murda news his new trial has officially been set for

11
00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:38.640
<v Speaker 1>April fifth, twenty twenty seven. The judge that is presiding

12
00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.039
<v Speaker 1>over this case, I really like her. She seems to

13
00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:46.119
<v Speaker 1>really have everything together as far as what she wants,

14
00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:48.359
<v Speaker 1>what she's going to allow, what she's not going to allow.

15
00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:52.200
<v Speaker 1>She did say that the trial might end up having

16
00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to be pushed back a couple of weeks, and she's

17
00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:56.479
<v Speaker 1>willing to do that, but we're not going to be

18
00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.719
<v Speaker 1>putting it back any further than that. So that is

19
00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.840
<v Speaker 1>currently where things stand. Elex's team very much wanted him

20
00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.439
<v Speaker 1>to be able to have his laptop so he could

21
00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:10.719
<v Speaker 1>go through evidence and so on and so forth, and

22
00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the judge ruled that no, he's not allowed to have

23
00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.920
<v Speaker 1>his laptop. He is going to be treated like any

24
00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.000
<v Speaker 1>other defendant and they aren't allowed to have their laptop,

25
00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.040
<v Speaker 1>so he is not going to be allowed to have his.

26
00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:25.719
<v Speaker 1>They also had asked that he not be in shackles

27
00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and just be quote unquote normal in the courtroom, and

28
00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.519
<v Speaker 1>that was also denied. So I do appreciate that she

29
00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.760
<v Speaker 1>is treating him like any other defendant and he's not

30
00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:39.239
<v Speaker 1>getting special privileges because he is who he is, because

31
00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's eating this up. He is one thousand

32
00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.400
<v Speaker 1>percent all about being back in front of everyone and everything.

33
00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm really curious to see if he's going to testify

34
00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:54.200
<v Speaker 1>what that's going to look like. But I'm already planning

35
00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that April is going to once again take over my

36
00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.439
<v Speaker 1>life because I didn't have this podcast back during the

37
00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:05.000
<v Speaker 1>last trial, but it a million percent took over my

38
00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:09.199
<v Speaker 1>life and actually is what prompted me to start my

39
00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.800
<v Speaker 1>podcast essentially in a roundabout way. So I will continue

40
00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to keep you guys updated on this one. I'm going

41
00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.919
<v Speaker 1>to be following along as always. So next thing, I

42
00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.560
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about is a little bit of Rex

43
00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Heureman news, the Long Island serial killer. The big breaking

44
00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:30.560
<v Speaker 1>news this week is that the therapist that was his

45
00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.240
<v Speaker 1>therapist while he was in prison for three years is

46
00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.800
<v Speaker 1>not licensed to practice. She's been practicing without a license

47
00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.840
<v Speaker 1>four years and she is currently facing felony charges of

48
00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:47.599
<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of dollars in bogus insurance reimbursements. So

49
00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:51.560
<v Speaker 1>her name is Alison Winter. She was fifty two. Like

50
00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, Rex Hureman's jail house therapist for almost three years,

51
00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and she definitely has a lot going on. She was

52
00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:04.759
<v Speaker 1>apparently arrested in November of twenty twenty four on grand

53
00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.800
<v Speaker 1>larceny charges as well as a scheme to defraud as

54
00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:13.159
<v Speaker 1>well as fourteen counts of unauthorized practice of a profession

55
00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:18.000
<v Speaker 1>for allegedly posing as a licensed social worker between twenty

56
00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:22.520
<v Speaker 1>eighteen and twenty twenty four. I personally don't know how

57
00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.879
<v Speaker 1>people get away with this and they're still billing insurance.

58
00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just a wild, insane ride. I don't understand it.

59
00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.439
<v Speaker 1>None of it makes any sense. But just another little

60
00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of saga in the Rex Humorman case, because again,

61
00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:41.719
<v Speaker 1>it seems to be every single week since he has

62
00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:45.520
<v Speaker 1>been officially sentenced, there has been different things that have

63
00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.319
<v Speaker 1>been coming out, So that is kind of the latest

64
00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:51.479
<v Speaker 1>on that. I don't really know if there is anything

65
00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.319
<v Speaker 1>more that will come of this one, but if there is,

66
00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I will be sure to keep you guys updated and

67
00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.240
<v Speaker 1>let you guys know one thing I totally forgot to

68
00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.919
<v Speaker 1>mention on last week's Right Now in True Crime that

69
00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:04.919
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to update you on because it is so

70
00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:09.319
<v Speaker 1>so important. I have gotten to know Hokuten over the

71
00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.800
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years and become familiar with her story,

72
00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and I have had her on the podcast to talk

73
00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:20.279
<v Speaker 1>about the tragedy that happened to her children, Alec and Lydia,

74
00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and I have learned so much about phill aside and

75
00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:29.519
<v Speaker 1>coercive control and everything that Hope went through and what

76
00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.759
<v Speaker 1>she is doing to help change the laws and protect children.

77
00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.319
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to let you guys know that House

78
00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.480
<v Speaker 1>built two nine nine five. The Alec and Lydia Act

79
00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:45.000
<v Speaker 1>was officially passed and signed by Governor Hobbes in Arizona

80
00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.920
<v Speaker 1>on the twenty second of June, which was a huge

81
00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:54.639
<v Speaker 1>monumental way to honor Alec and Lydia and help save

82
00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:58.959
<v Speaker 1>other children. So I just wanted to give a shout

83
00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.600
<v Speaker 1>out to Hope for everything that she has done. She

84
00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.759
<v Speaker 1>is hoping to save children and prevent what happened to

85
00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:09.360
<v Speaker 1>her children from happening to any other families, and not

86
00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:12.120
<v Speaker 1>just in Arizona, but hoping that this is going to

87
00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.240
<v Speaker 1>go across the United States hopefully, because that is exactly

88
00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.800
<v Speaker 1>what needs to happen. Children need to be at the

89
00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:24.600
<v Speaker 1>front and center in family court, and ultimately, this passing

90
00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:26.879
<v Speaker 1>of this bill is going to help save lives. And

91
00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Hope truly has done this as a passion project and

92
00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:34.759
<v Speaker 1>has been able to use her own pain and her

93
00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:39.560
<v Speaker 1>own personal tragedy to put something like this in place

94
00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.519
<v Speaker 1>so that way this doesn't happen to other children and

95
00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen to other families. So I did want

96
00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to take a minute to recognize her and all of

97
00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:52.040
<v Speaker 1>her hard work, and just everybody that has supported Hope

98
00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and shared posts and really been behind her as a

99
00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:01.560
<v Speaker 1>voice against philocide, because it truly does take village. She

100
00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.439
<v Speaker 1>is a really amazing woman and she worked her butt

101
00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.240
<v Speaker 1>off to get everything passed through, but she couldn't do

102
00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:13.319
<v Speaker 1>it alone. So everyone that has supported her and has

103
00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.399
<v Speaker 1>been behind her, has shared her story, has been willing

104
00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.959
<v Speaker 1>to listen to her story because her story is obviously

105
00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:22.639
<v Speaker 1>very heartbreaking and a lot of people don't like to

106
00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:27.079
<v Speaker 1>listen to stories that involve children, but it's so important

107
00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and this is the reason that it's important, because laws

108
00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.000
<v Speaker 1>are being put into place, things are going to change,

109
00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and children's lives are going to be saved, and ultimately

110
00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that is the end goal. So hope, if you're listening

111
00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to this, I love you so much and I am

112
00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:45.560
<v Speaker 1>so so proud of you, and I hope that you

113
00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.759
<v Speaker 1>know how proud Alec and Lydia are of you. We

114
00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:53.879
<v Speaker 1>do have an update in Charlie Adelson's appeal journey. His

115
00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.839
<v Speaker 1>appeal has officially been denied, so we do not have

116
00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.879
<v Speaker 1>to go through another trial for him again, and I

117
00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.720
<v Speaker 1>am very grateful for that because, in my opinion, I

118
00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.920
<v Speaker 1>think it is pretty obvious that Charlie Adelson is exactly

119
00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:11.920
<v Speaker 1>where he needs to be. In other appeal news, Corey

120
00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Richins has filed a motion to get a new trial,

121
00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:21.879
<v Speaker 1>citing that the judge that oversaw her trial was unfairly

122
00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.480
<v Speaker 1>biased towards the prosecution and that could have swayed the

123
00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.079
<v Speaker 1>jury in some way, shape or form. I personally think

124
00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.879
<v Speaker 1>that she is grasping at straws because I don't think

125
00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that anything that the judge did made me feel like

126
00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:39.560
<v Speaker 1>he was unfairly biased towards the state. They also talked

127
00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.560
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that they were allowed to bring in

128
00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:45.120
<v Speaker 1>all of the financial aspects of things, all of the

129
00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:50.680
<v Speaker 1>potential financial crimes that were in Corey's past, and kind

130
00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of made it a similarity to Elec Murda and how

131
00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:57.800
<v Speaker 1>all of the financials were allowed in his trial and

132
00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that led to him being convicted for the murders of

133
00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:04.759
<v Speaker 1>his wife and son. And similarly, with Corey, she had

134
00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.399
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote financial motivation and then was essentially convicted for

135
00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the murder of her husband Eric. So there's a lot

136
00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:14.920
<v Speaker 1>going on there with that one. I'll continue to keep

137
00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.839
<v Speaker 1>you guys updated. If there is any breaking news on

138
00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.240
<v Speaker 1>anything Corey Richard's related, I will be sure to bring

139
00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it to you here. But that about does it for

140
00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.279
<v Speaker 1>right now. On True Crime. I do want to do

141
00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:31.519
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a background episode on all that's

142
00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.559
<v Speaker 1>going down in Ohio right now, but I need to

143
00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to sit and dig in a little bit

144
00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.399
<v Speaker 1>more on that, so I'll probably talk about that whole

145
00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:43.320
<v Speaker 1>story on next week's episode right now on True Crime,

146
00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:45.320
<v Speaker 1>but for now, we are going to go ahead and

147
00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:49.159
<v Speaker 1>get into this week's case. Alrighty guys, Today we are

148
00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:52.960
<v Speaker 1>diving into a brand new case. We are going to

149
00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:57.559
<v Speaker 1>be discussing the abduction and subsequent murder of five year

150
00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:01.559
<v Speaker 1>old Neveya Buchanan out of Monroe, Michigan in two thousand

151
00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.919
<v Speaker 1>and nine. I do want to give a content warning

152
00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.000
<v Speaker 1>on this episode. The details of this case are extremely

153
00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.559
<v Speaker 1>disturbing and it also involves a child, so please take

154
00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:16.600
<v Speaker 1>care when listening. I totally understand if this is one

155
00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that you have to skip because it is tough, and honestly,

156
00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.159
<v Speaker 1>with cases like this, I very much go back and

157
00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.240
<v Speaker 1>forth on if I should cover them or not. But ultimately,

158
00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:32.159
<v Speaker 1>exposure is key to getting justice because unfortunately, the person

159
00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that did this to Nevea is still at large, and

160
00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.840
<v Speaker 1>as long as they are out there and haven't been

161
00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:42.399
<v Speaker 1>held accountable, we run the risk of this happening again.

162
00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:45.559
<v Speaker 1>So talking about it and sharing about it is the

163
00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:50.120
<v Speaker 1>first step. Let's go ahead and get into Nevea's story now.

164
00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Nevea A Maya Buchanan was born on February third of

165
00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.840
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four to her parents, Jennifer Buchanan and

166
00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Shane in a host. The next part of this is

167
00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:07.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be taken directly from Nevea's obituary, so you

168
00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.759
<v Speaker 1>can get an idea of who Nevea was. Novella was

169
00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:14.200
<v Speaker 1>an excellent student. She enjoyed every day at preschool and

170
00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:18.440
<v Speaker 1>recently had graduated from the Discovery Preschool program at Cantrick.

171
00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:21.720
<v Speaker 1>She could often be found spending time at the playground

172
00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.000
<v Speaker 1>or hanging out with her new best friend, Austin. She

173
00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.840
<v Speaker 1>thought that she was hot stuff while driving her power

174
00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:32.440
<v Speaker 1>wheels Escalade or riding her scooter. She also loved motorcycles,

175
00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.360
<v Speaker 1>so that, like I said, was taken directly from her obituary.

176
00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Nevea is also described as having a smile that could

177
00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.639
<v Speaker 1>warm the room and a personality that could tame a

178
00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:46.000
<v Speaker 1>wild heart. She had a huge love for life. Her

179
00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.559
<v Speaker 1>favorite movie was The Jungle Book, and she was a

180
00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.720
<v Speaker 1>tomboy who hated to wear dresses. Ended only five years

181
00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.200
<v Speaker 1>old when her life was tragically taken. Nevea sounds like

182
00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:59.639
<v Speaker 1>she was truly an amazing kid. So Nevea lived with

183
00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:04.159
<v Speaker 1>her maternal grandmother Sherry and her mom, Jennifer, in Monroe, Michigan.

184
00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Monroe is about twenty minutes from the Ohio border. They

185
00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:13.240
<v Speaker 1>lived at the Charlotte Arms Apartments, located at one point

186
00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:18.000
<v Speaker 1>one six' Six North Macomb street In, Monroe. Michigan it

187
00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.039
<v Speaker 1>does appear that the complex has since been renamed and

188
00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.519
<v Speaker 1>it is now Called Sterling Point. Apartments this apartment complex

189
00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.759
<v Speaker 1>was considered lower income housing at the. Time the complex

190
00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:34.399
<v Speaker 1>was three floors and one hundred and eighty. Units nevea

191
00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and her family lived on the ground. Floor nevea's, Father,

192
00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.600
<v Speaker 1>shane lived In, Toledo, ohio and it doesn't seem like

193
00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.000
<v Speaker 1>he had a lot of involvement in her life prior

194
00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to her going. MISSING i believe it had been about

195
00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:51.559
<v Speaker 1>three years since he had had any communication With, nevea

196
00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:55.360
<v Speaker 1>meaning the last time he had had any communication with

197
00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.600
<v Speaker 1>her was when she was two years. Old, so needless to,

198
00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Say shane And jennifer were not together at the time

199
00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.679
<v Speaker 1>That nevea went. Missing navea's, Mom, jennifer had recently spent

200
00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:09.559
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks in jail before being placed on probation

201
00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:14.679
<v Speaker 1>in connection with a home. Invasion i've also seen additional

202
00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:19.679
<v Speaker 1>reports that report That jennifer had also been in jail

203
00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:24.720
<v Speaker 1>previously When navella was, younger which is why her, Grandmother

204
00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:29.200
<v Speaker 1>sherry had legal custody Of nevea and still had legal

205
00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.720
<v Speaker 1>custody of her at the time of her. Death But

206
00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.559
<v Speaker 1>jennifer was back home now and she was focused on

207
00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.519
<v Speaker 1>building a better life for her and her. Daughter so

208
00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.240
<v Speaker 1>let's fast forward To, Sunday may twenty fourth of two

209
00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand and. Nine it Was Memorial day. Weekend sherry was

210
00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.759
<v Speaker 1>at work that, day So jennifer was home With. Nevea

211
00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.159
<v Speaker 1>jennifer had a friend and her friend's child who was

212
00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.679
<v Speaker 1>going to be spending the, night so they were. Over

213
00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.159
<v Speaker 1>so the adults were hanging out and is, typical the

214
00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:02.759
<v Speaker 1>children were outside. Playing it was the early months of

215
00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.480
<v Speaker 1>summer and that is what they. Did there was a

216
00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:10.120
<v Speaker 1>playground at the complex that the children would often spend time,

217
00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:13.159
<v Speaker 1>at but they would also play around the, complex or

218
00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.320
<v Speaker 1>they would go to other children's apartments in the complex

219
00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and play. There this was not unusual For. Nevea she

220
00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.080
<v Speaker 1>was always out. Playing so on this particular, day it

221
00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.679
<v Speaker 1>was around five pm And nevea had had an. Accident

222
00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:31.360
<v Speaker 1>she had used the restroom on. Herself she was so

223
00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:35.159
<v Speaker 1>involved in playing that she accidentally used the restroom on.

224
00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Herself so she went back home to change, clothes and

225
00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:42.519
<v Speaker 1>she changed into a sleeveless light blue shirt with red

226
00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and white horizontal stripes and a WHITE v neck collar

227
00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and jean. Shorts she told her mom that she was

228
00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.360
<v Speaker 1>going to go upstairs to her Friend austin's, apartment and

229
00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:55.320
<v Speaker 1>she grabbed a popsicle and then went out the. Door

230
00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:58.720
<v Speaker 1>So austin was a little, older he was, eight and

231
00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.480
<v Speaker 1>he lived upstairs from the and he was her best.

232
00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Friend this was honestly about a ten second commute From

233
00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:11.399
<v Speaker 1>nevea's apartment To austin's. Apartment so around six thirty, pm

234
00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:13.919
<v Speaker 1>the child of the friend who was staying with them

235
00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:17.120
<v Speaker 1>at the apartment came in and Told jennifer That nevea

236
00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was playing in the street on her, scooter which she

237
00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to. Do, now there's also reports that it

238
00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.200
<v Speaker 1>could have been the parking lot that she was playing,

239
00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in but, essentially wherever she, was it was an area

240
00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that was off limits To, nevea and she knew that

241
00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:38.120
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't supposed to be playing. There So jennifer knew

242
00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that she said she was going to be going, upstairs

243
00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.320
<v Speaker 1>so she wasn't even supposed to be. Outside she was

244
00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:47.039
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be upstairs In austin's. Apartment So jennifer proceeded

245
00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to get up from the couch and go outside and

246
00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Find nevea and make sure that she was not doing

247
00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>something she wasn't supposed to. Do and she went out

248
00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.399
<v Speaker 1>and couldn't F she asked some of the other kids

249
00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.720
<v Speaker 1>who were outside if they had seen, her and they

250
00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:08.519
<v Speaker 1>all said. No then in her, travels she ran across

251
00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:11.519
<v Speaker 1>the apartment manager who also said the same. Thing she

252
00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.399
<v Speaker 1>had also not Seen, nevea so she kept searching and.

253
00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Searching she went door to. Door she was going to

254
00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:21.720
<v Speaker 1>all Of nvea's friends apartments trying to find. Her she

255
00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't An austin's, apartment and then she eventually made her

256
00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.879
<v Speaker 1>way to the back of the complex and that is

257
00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:32.120
<v Speaker 1>where she Found nevea's, scooter but there was No nevea in. Sight,

258
00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:36.679
<v Speaker 1>NOW i have seen various reports on what happened, next

259
00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but from different Articles i've, seen it appears at this

260
00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:42.919
<v Speaker 1>point in time That jennifer called a friend of, hers

261
00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.639
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine year Old George kennedy to help her. Search

262
00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.960
<v Speaker 1>george was close To jennifer And, nevea And nevea even

263
00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:54.919
<v Speaker 1>called Him Daddy. George it does appear that at one

264
00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:58.320
<v Speaker 1>point in Time jennifer And george had, dated but they

265
00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:01.480
<v Speaker 1>were not actively dating at the time That nevea had.

266
00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Disappeared So jennifer Asked george to help her look For,

267
00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:09.000
<v Speaker 1>nevea and that's exactly what they. Did they searched the

268
00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:12.960
<v Speaker 1>local playgrounds and also searched a Nearby kmart store that

269
00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:16.120
<v Speaker 1>was kind of caddy corner to the apartment, complex thinking

270
00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Maybe nevea had wandered off over, there but there was

271
00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.840
<v Speaker 1>no sign of. Her so somewhere between eight and eight,

272
00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.679
<v Speaker 1>fifteen a nine to one call was made to Report nevea.

273
00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Missing jennifer also Called cherry to let her know That

274
00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.480
<v Speaker 1>nevea was, missing And chery was just about to leave

275
00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.000
<v Speaker 1>from work when she got the, call and she arrived

276
00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:39.080
<v Speaker 1>back home before law enforcement showed up at the. Apartment

277
00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Once nevea was reported, missing law enforcement set up a

278
00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:47.600
<v Speaker 1>large scale search For. Nevea this included a canine unit and.

279
00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Helicopters there were also police officers and volunteers From monroe

280
00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:57.279
<v Speaker 1>because words spread. Fast Once nevea went, missing investigators began

281
00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to Interview jennifer, extensively and it was at this point

282
00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:05.519
<v Speaker 1>in time they realized exactly Who George kennedy. Was he

283
00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.680
<v Speaker 1>was a convicted, Felon he had served time for home

284
00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:14.559
<v Speaker 1>evasion and also was a registered sex. Offender once investigators

285
00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.880
<v Speaker 1>realized he was close With jennifer and involved In nevea's,

286
00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:21.559
<v Speaker 1>life they arrested him for violating his parole as he

287
00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.400
<v Speaker 1>was to have no contact with children due to his

288
00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:28.880
<v Speaker 1>sex offender. Status at twelve thirty am On, monday An

289
00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:32.960
<v Speaker 1>amber alert was issued For. Nevea amber alerts In michigan

290
00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.559
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nine were a bit different than

291
00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.519
<v Speaker 1>they are present. Day they were facts to radio AND

292
00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:43.039
<v Speaker 1>tv stations and then were sent to phones that opted

293
00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.359
<v Speaker 1>into the, alert so not everybody got the. Alert when

294
00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the alert was, issued all one hundred and eighty units

295
00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.720
<v Speaker 1>of the complex were, searched as well as the residents,

296
00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:57.200
<v Speaker 1>questioned and nearby quarry was searched by divers and sonar

297
00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:01.319
<v Speaker 1>equipment and cadaver equipment were also brought. In Lake monroe

298
00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.839
<v Speaker 1>was searched with no sign Of. Nevea the only possible

299
00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:08.240
<v Speaker 1>witness at this point was a man Named Tim. Finley

300
00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.640
<v Speaker 1>he had visited his sister who lived at the. Complex

301
00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.599
<v Speaker 1>he left the apartment complex around seven pm and he

302
00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:19.759
<v Speaker 1>said he hadn't noticed any children playing, outside but he

303
00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>did see a little red car speed out of the

304
00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.400
<v Speaker 1>complex parking, lot and in his mind he thought that

305
00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.640
<v Speaker 1>was a little. Weird but other than this, sighting no

306
00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:33.599
<v Speaker 1>one saw or heard, anything and nobody Saw. Nevea as

307
00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.559
<v Speaker 1>investigators continue to Question, jennifer they learned that she had

308
00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.039
<v Speaker 1>another person in her life that had a sketchy passed

309
00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a man Named Roy. Smith he was forty eight years,

310
00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.599
<v Speaker 1>old and this is an individual Who jennifer had met

311
00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Through George kennedy and no shock. Here he was also

312
00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:57.039
<v Speaker 1>a registered sex. Offender in nineteen ninety, one he was

313
00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:01.519
<v Speaker 1>charged with third degree sexual conduct for sexual assault and

314
00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.759
<v Speaker 1>he was sentenced to fifteen years and had only been

315
00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:09.319
<v Speaker 1>released a year. Earlier he was also taken into custody

316
00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.839
<v Speaker 1>for parole violations as he also was not to have

317
00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:17.240
<v Speaker 1>any contact with. Children there was also this really weird

318
00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:21.039
<v Speaker 1>thing that was discovered That george And roy had traded vehicles.

319
00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Recently roy had traded his van To, george And george

320
00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:29.839
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting His thunderbird in. Exchange On may twenty,

321
00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:34.079
<v Speaker 1>seventh investigators obtained a search warrant For George kennedy's, home

322
00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:37.880
<v Speaker 1>which was really just a low budget motel room that

323
00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.559
<v Speaker 1>he had been. Renting they found some stuff that set

324
00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:45.000
<v Speaker 1>off alarm. Bells they found bloody clothes and blood on the,

325
00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:49.559
<v Speaker 1>walls and there were pictures inside of underage, girls which

326
00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:55.240
<v Speaker 1>we can assume were probably inappropriate given his. History, allegedly

327
00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in my, opinion the clothing was sent off for comparison

328
00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.400
<v Speaker 1>To NIVEAYA'S dna and it ended up coming back as

329
00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:06.759
<v Speaker 1>not a. Match When george was questioned about where the

330
00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.480
<v Speaker 1>blood came, from he said he didn't know how the

331
00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>blood got there and thought that maybe at some point

332
00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:16.119
<v Speaker 1>he had cut his. Hand in a jailhouse interview he

333
00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:21.279
<v Speaker 1>did With Mark, Reader George kennedy said the following, QUOTE

334
00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:24.440
<v Speaker 1>i didn't take, her AND i definitely didn't kill. HER

335
00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.559
<v Speaker 1>i have no. CLUE i wish THAT i did have some.

336
00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.279
<v Speaker 1>CLUE i am hoping that she ain't. DEAD i still

337
00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.599
<v Speaker 1>got my fingers crossed that they are going to find her.

338
00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Alive end. Quote, so following the arrest of these two.

339
00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Individuals they continue to Question jennifer and they ended up

340
00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.680
<v Speaker 1>doing a thorough search of her home and her different electronic.

341
00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Devices she said she had nothing to, hide and it

342
00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.279
<v Speaker 1>was even noted that she never retained legal counsel and

343
00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the reason for this is she said she didn't have

344
00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:57.559
<v Speaker 1>anything to hide and she didn't need it because she

345
00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.039
<v Speaker 1>did nothing. Wrong she also said that she had no

346
00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:05.680
<v Speaker 1>idea who would want to hurt her. Child investigators continued

347
00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.559
<v Speaker 1>to scour the apartment complex and question, neighbors and they

348
00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:13.400
<v Speaker 1>followed up on all. Tips tips were pouring in by the.

349
00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Dozens they had questioned at least two hundred and forty

350
00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:20.519
<v Speaker 1>people related to her case at this. Point On may thirty,

351
00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.799
<v Speaker 1>first another man came into the picture as a possible,

352
00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:28.200
<v Speaker 1>suspect sixty five year Old James, easter who was reported

353
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:31.519
<v Speaker 1>to police as someone to look into because he was

354
00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:36.759
<v Speaker 1>reportedly burning items in his backyard Following nevea's. Disappearance he

355
00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>also was a little. Sketchy he was charged with indecent

356
00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:44.599
<v Speaker 1>exposure in the late nineties after he decided to take

357
00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.920
<v Speaker 1>off his clothes behind them In Row library because he

358
00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.279
<v Speaker 1>said it was a, nice warm day and he wanted

359
00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to just relish in the, nice warm. Day two kids

360
00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:58.000
<v Speaker 1>came across him and called the, cops so he was

361
00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>brought in for, questioning and they did everything they could

362
00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.759
<v Speaker 1>to try to break. Him they were trying to Pin

363
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.799
<v Speaker 1>navea's abduction on, him and he said he had nothing

364
00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to do with her, disappearance and he maintained his. Innocence

365
00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>he was let, go and once he got back, home

366
00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>he once again began to burn. Items they, were, however

367
00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:21.079
<v Speaker 1>keeping an eye on him because they knew that there

368
00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.759
<v Speaker 1>was something a little off about this. Guy so he

369
00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 1>was then arrested for charges related to burning property and

370
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:31.480
<v Speaker 1>then was officially named as a person of interest In navea's.

371
00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Case james would go on to give several concerning statements

372
00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>about her. Disappearance following his, arrest he was asked by

373
00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>AN fbi agent what he thought had happened To, nevea

374
00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and he said the following. Quote IF i was a

375
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.559
<v Speaker 1>bad guy AND i was looking for something like a

376
00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.319
<v Speaker 1>little girl or a little, CHILD i would have drove

377
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.680
<v Speaker 1>my pickup in. THERE i would have made a horseshoe

378
00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.559
<v Speaker 1>around the office and the POOL i would have pulled.

379
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Onto this turned on my hazard, lights pretending to have

380
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a car, problem and THEN i would have snuck up

381
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>along the blind side of those pine. Trees and then

382
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 1>he made a comment about how there's always maintenance workers out.

383
00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>There so, yes this is absolutely him describing how at

384
00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.759
<v Speaker 1>the exact apartment complex That nvea was abducted, from how

385
00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 1>he would abduct a. Child and if you're asking, yourself

386
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:31.279
<v Speaker 1>how does he have familiarity with the apartment complex That

387
00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.799
<v Speaker 1>nvella went missing, From i'm about to tell. You. So

388
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it turns out That James easter was dating a gal

389
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Named janie and she lived at that same, complex and interestingly,

390
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>enough she may have been one of the last people

391
00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to See. Nevea she told The Detroit Free press that

392
00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.079
<v Speaker 1>around five or six, pm she Saw navea go by

393
00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>with a little boy behind her on her. Scooter she

394
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>was riding her scooter like a normal, child and then

395
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>minutes later she noticed the scooter had been abandoned under her.

396
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Window she said she didn't hear any yells or anything

397
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that stood out to her that would lead her to

398
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 1>believe that anything bad, happened but that is an interesting little. Tadbit,

399
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>nonetheless law enforcement then ended up Searching james's place and

400
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 1>they found, pornography a duct, tape and gloves that were

401
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:28.720
<v Speaker 1>all in a trash, can and they also found several barbie,

402
00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>dolls which when they Questioned james about, them he said

403
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>they were for his. Granddaughter in the next few, days

404
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>they would announce That James easter was no longer a

405
00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:42.839
<v Speaker 1>person of, interest and they announced that they were looking

406
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.599
<v Speaker 1>for the owners of a green van and a silver

407
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.039
<v Speaker 1>van that was last seen near an elementary school in the.

408
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Area they also stated that they were questioning another person

409
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.279
<v Speaker 1>of interest that drove an ice cream truck as. WELL

410
00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a twenty thousand dollars reward at that point in time

411
00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 1>was being offered for information Into nevea's. Disappearance everyone in the,

412
00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 1>community of, course was on edge Since nevea had been,

413
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>abducted and they all very much held out hope that

414
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:17.039
<v Speaker 1>she was going to Be fountain. Safe but the longer

415
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 1>it went on without any word From, nevea it became

416
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.519
<v Speaker 1>more and more likely that they weren't going to find her.

417
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Safe On june fourth of two thousand and, nine the

418
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 1>search For nevaa ended in a tragic. WAY a individual

419
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Named Guy bickley along with his, father decided that morning

420
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that they were going to go fishing down on The River.

421
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Raisin they arrived there about nine thirty am and they

422
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.799
<v Speaker 1>fished all. Morning then around twelve o'clock they decided to

423
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>go to another, spot and that is where they made a.

424
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Discovery So guy reported that they had gone down on

425
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the banks and he saw some concrete kind of on

426
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the b and it was kind of described as being

427
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>off to one side where they were going to be

428
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.799
<v Speaker 1>sitting up to, fish and he said there was some

429
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>rocks adjacent to the cement, area and to, him in his,

430
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>mind he thought that somebody had maybe tried to fill

431
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>a hole with some cement that had just started to

432
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>erode a little. Bit he didn't really think much of

433
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>it and went to sit down on the rocks and

434
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 1>put his feet on the concrete area so that way

435
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>he could sit there and. Fish but once he sat,

436
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.319
<v Speaker 1>there he started to smell. Something he didn't know quite

437
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.319
<v Speaker 1>what it. Was he thought maybe there was some fish

438
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 1>that had died somewhere and that's what he was. Smelling

439
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 1>so he decided to get, up and when he got,

440
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>up he realized that the concrete that he had been

441
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>by had kind of started to crumble a little, bit

442
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 1>so he was kind of using his shoe to kind

443
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of kick it around a little, bit, again not really

444
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>thinking of, anything and that is when he saw what

445
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>he believed to be human. Flesh he got his dad

446
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and then immediately they left and they called nine to one,

447
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>one so investigators came out to the scene and they

448
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>announced that they had indeed found human, remains and the

449
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 1>remains were of a young, girl and they did believe

450
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 1>that this young girl Was nevea because of the clothes

451
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:24.839
<v Speaker 1>that she was. Wearing they were found in a shallow

452
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 1>grave that was dug alongside the river, bed and the

453
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:31.839
<v Speaker 1>remains had been placed there and concrete had been poured

454
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>on top of the. Remains, obviously whoever did this put

455
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 1>that cement there as a way to conceal the remains

456
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 1>and probably believed that they wouldn't be. Found BUT i

457
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>really think that day that Guy bickley and his father

458
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>being there was a stroke of luck and they picked

459
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that spot to go, fishing because if, not who knows

460
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 1>If nvea would have been. Found but of course they

461
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>did have to wait to make sure that the forensics,

462
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 1>matched and they were going to be doing other, testing of,

463
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 1>course to confirm that this was in Fact. Nevea the

464
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 1>sheriff did go on to make a statement that of

465
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>course put the community on, edge and they basically, said

466
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>whoever did this is likely still out and about In

467
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>monroe in the. Community on that very same, day Both

468
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>George kennedy And Roy smith were transferred from the jail

469
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to state. Prison not really sure if that was just

470
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>coincidental or. What they never were arrested on any charges

471
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 1>related To neva's. Death the remains that were found were

472
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:43.759
<v Speaker 1>sent to The Wayne County Medical examiner and investigators began their.

473
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Work they blocked off the area where the remains were,

474
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>found and they were scouring everything they could to try

475
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.119
<v Speaker 1>to find any type of forensics to figure out who

476
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 1>could have done. This around the same, Time jennifer was

477
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of. Interviews jenna for Is navea's. Mom

478
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>On june, ninth she went On Nancy grace alongside a

479
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>friend of. Hers nancy questioned how she could let her

480
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 1>daughter be around not just, one but two convicted sex.

481
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Offenders she responded and, said everybody deserves a second. Chance

482
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and as you can, Imagine Nancy grace did not respond

483
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 1>well to that. Statement she also responded to the fact

484
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>That george had been convicted of sexually assaulting a fifteen year,

485
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>old and she responded That george had basically told her

486
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that it was a consensual, encounter and that is in

487
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 1>fact what she, believed that it was a consensual. Encounter

488
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but as we, know fifteen is not the age of

489
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>consent In, michigan so it was never consensual in any,

490
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.359
<v Speaker 1>way shape or, form And nancy was sure to tell her.

491
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>That On june tenth of two thousand and, Nine jennifer

492
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 1>went on The channel nine to five to Five mojo

493
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in The Morning show to say the cheat things that

494
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>whoever did this To nevea was possibly somebody That george

495
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.839
<v Speaker 1>was involved, with maybe one of his girlfriends or somebody

496
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 1>that he. Knew so at this point in, Time jennifer

497
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>was out doing a lot of, interviews LIKE i, said

498
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 1>and she was getting a lot of public, scrutiny and

499
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the media was having a heyday and they were picking her.

500
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Apart so it was at this point in time that

501
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 1>she stopped giving, interviews which was probably a, really really

502
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 1>good decision on her. Part so around the same, time

503
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 1>the remains had officially been identified as those Of Nevea,

504
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 1>buchanan but they still were awaiting autopsy, results so in the,

505
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Meantime nvea's family began to plan her. Funeral On june,

506
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>thirteenth they had a beautiful funeral For nevea and there

507
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of people there from the community to

508
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>support her and her. Family she was laid to rest

509
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>At Saint Joseph cemetery and it was a full celebration

510
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>honoring her. Life the next, day following the, funeral the

511
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>autopsy report had come back and it had indicated That

512
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>nevea's cause of death was indeed, exphyxiation and it led

513
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>them to believe that the concrete had been poured on

514
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>top of her while she was still, alive which is

515
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the most, horrific, inhumane horrible detail of this case THAT

516
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 1>i cannot wrap my head. Around it's. Awful there was

517
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 1>no other sign of trauma On. Nevea there was no

518
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>other injuries to her body other than. That it was

519
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>not reported whether or Not nevea had been sexually, assaulted

520
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>but one thing, remains this crime is absolutely. Horrific they

521
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 1>also determined that the cement had been mixed, incorrectly which

522
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>is the reason why her remains ended up being found

523
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 1>in the first. Place according To nivea's, cousin who was

524
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Named Sean, lawson there were also carp fibers that were

525
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 1>found On nevea's body and underneath her. Fingernails at this

526
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>point in the, investigation they had about twelve hundred tips

527
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 1>that they had gone through and got over In nivea's,

528
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 1>case but by the Time august had rolled, around the

529
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 1>tips had significantly slowed. Down on the one year anniversary

530
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Of nevea's abduction and subsequent, murder they held a press

531
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>conference where they shared that they had yet to make any,

532
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 1>arrests but were questioning Another monroe resident as to their,

533
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>involvement and they assured the community that the case was

534
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>not closed and it was still open and very. Active

535
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 1>they said at that point in, time they weren't at

536
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a point where they could go out and make an,

537
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>arrest but it was progressing in that. Direction they then

538
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 1>continued to say that they aren't publicly naming any suspects

539
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>or persons of interest at that. Time by twenty, Twelve

540
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.759
<v Speaker 1>jennifer said that she hadn't spoken to the police About

541
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>neva's case in nearly two, years every single time it

542
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 1>seemed like they had a, lead they ended up right

543
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 1>back at square one again for one reason or. Another

544
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the tips had stopped coming in as much and they

545
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 1>were getting maybe one a month if that about In neva's.

546
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Case but everything changed On may twenty second of twenty

547
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 1>fourteen when it was revealed In monroe's local paper that

548
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 1>investigators thought they knew who Killed. Nevea they never gave

549
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this person's, name but they did say it was a

550
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 1>male and somebody that was born and raised In, Monroe,

551
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>michigan and this person had a lot of issues stemming

552
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 1>from their teenage, years and they believed that this was

553
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 1>a crime of, opportunity and also said at that point in,

554
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>time this person was serving time in prison for domestic

555
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 1>assault charges and that they were going to be in

556
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 1>prison for at least ten, years and there was also

557
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.599
<v Speaker 1>another charge looming for allegedly trying to murder someone else

558
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 1>at the. Prison AND i think it's wild that this

559
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 1>was poorted, on especially because it was said they're ninety

560
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>nine percent sure that this was the, person but nothing

561
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>was done about, it which is so, frustrating and saying

562
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 1>that this person's in prison for the next ten years

563
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exactly Give nevea any. Justice and still as the years,

564
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>passed there have been no arrests made In nevea's. Case

565
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>then in twenty, sixteen all of this was taken. Back

566
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 1>they backtracked and said there's been nothing new that has

567
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>come out In nevea's case since twenty. Twelve SO i

568
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 1>assume that they wanted what they previously had said in

569
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen just to kind of go, away so they.

570
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Backtracked this abduction and murder changed everything For neva's. Family,

571
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Sherry neva's, grandmother moved out of the apartment shortly after the.

572
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Murder jennifer also left and went to move in with a.

573
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Friend nevea's dad now visits the river every year With

574
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>neveus half siblings as a way to honor and remember,

575
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>her AND i do have to give him a shout. Out,

576
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>shane he was not super involved In deveya's life prior

577
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to her, disappearance at least in the last few years

578
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>of her. Life when she went, missing he literally moved

579
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 1>his life To, Monroe, michigan set up a tent in

580
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the parking lot of the apartment, complex and that is

581
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>where he lived until they were able to find out

582
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 1>what was going. On he was very present and always,

583
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 1>there And i'm sure he made a lot of. MISTAKES

584
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>i think he even had a worn out for his

585
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>arrests for back child, support but he still showed. Up

586
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes people do. Change sometimes people make bad decisions

587
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 1>and then something tragic happens and it changes their outlook and.

588
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Perspective SO i did want to recognize him for showing

589
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 1>up and being, there because since he wasn't super involved

590
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in her, life he could have easily just not been.

591
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>There there is a memorial that is set up down

592
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>by Where nevea was, found And Guy bickley says that

593
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 1>he often visits that area to remember her and he

594
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 1>feels connected to. Her nivea's cousin Founded justice For, nevea

595
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 1>which is an organization that helps advocate for her case

596
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>as well as other cases of many other missing, children

597
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and they have done a lot in her honor to

598
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>honor her and remember. Her the reward For nevea's case

599
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>is up to fifty thousand. Dollars anyone with information can

600
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>contact The Detective bureau at seven three four two four

601
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>oh seven five three to zero or Crime stoppers at

602
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 1>one eight hundred seven seven three two five eight. Seven

603
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 1>so that is where everything stands With nevea's. Story thank

604
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys so much for. Listening if you made it

605
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>to the end of this, episode thank. YOU i know

606
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a very tough. Case it was a hard one

607
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to do considering we are so many years down the

608
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 1>line and there's still no. ARRESTS i figured exposure is the, key,

609
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Right so that is where we're. At so as, ALWAYS

610
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 1>i appreciate you. Guys please leave a five star review

611
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 1>wherever you are. Listening it only takes a few seconds

612
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 1>and it is the best way to push this podcast

613
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>out to other people so we can get more eyes

614
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and ears on these. CASES i hope you guys have

615
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a good weekend AND i will see you. Soon. Bye
