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Speaker 2: I I was fighting a sneeze that entire read.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you. You didn't even sneeze after it?
Yeah I did, Oh you did. I literally just oh, bless.
Speaker 2: You, thank you.
Speaker 3: I thought it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's too late. If I have to tell
you then it's had.
Speaker 4: I have a friend that he was on the I
think it was Today's Show and he'd been in the
he's been in the business forever, and he was doing
a live hit and they came to him and he
was just wasn't ready, like he done it a thousand times,
but he caught him off guard.
Speaker 5: And we've all kind of been there. My man faked
the sneeze.
Speaker 4: It's smart live on the Today Show. Kind of faked
the sneeze, then went into his report and like later
always like yeah, that was just I wasn't ready fas smart.
Speaker 3: I mean that that's that Like that that in and
of itself is a veteran play it's like getting a
little you know, getting just enough of a grab on
the wide receiver as he goes by where they can't
they can't quite call it, but you manage to throw
off the route by by the Saint, a little time
by yourself, a little time maybe in the recovery, same
type deal. Welcome back hour two of O T b Uh.
Do we have those Brian Kelly postgame comments A landrum?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know. We need to get
into Saints and we will get there. Uh, but it's
the end of the Elshie football, right, I mean it's
the end of the regular season, and so a season
in review, a a a post part, a post mortem
is I think appropriate here and when you take this
even though, okay, I want to be clear about this, Okay,
I loved Saturday. It was very fun watching that game
and and force myself to, like all week long, not
care about like playoffs or the future or any of
their buyouts or anything like that, and just watch a
great football game, see who's gonna win between two solid teams.
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Okay, But now it is time to engage in maybe
some of the off the field discussion and look at
the end of the year. Uh, well, there was a
lot of good, especially early on. Unfortunately, the year as
a whole. I do not believe gets a passing grade.
Uh if you wanted to be binary about it, you know,
is it a success or failure. It's a failure if
you want to go in more of maybe a grade scale.
I don't think it's like an F. I think it's
like a like A like a D plus. If C
is if C minus is technically passing. And unfortunately for
LSU again, I love the way they responded after three
game of lose drig finishing off the season against Bandy
and Ou. But unfortunately it's really hard not to sit
there and kick yourself a bit. As we now know,
had you beaten the Florida Gators, a game in which
you dominate the box score just couldn't score. Had you
beaten the Florida Gators, you would actually be in Atlanta
right now over the Georgia Bulldogs. You'd be playing in
another SEC championship, which could have had the power. I
know that like ten and two, Like no, like we
said all year, nine to three was kind of the baseline.
Speaker 2: You know, that's acceptable. How you fall right underneath that.
Speaker 3: But had you go nine and three to the SEC Championship,
then all of a sudden, that's a very successful You're right,
six and two for the third year.
Speaker 2: In a row in the SEC.
Speaker 3: And yeah, look the USC loss that sucks as well,
but probably nothing sucks worse than the than the Florida
one because what was online and whatever getting up so
that that that that's look my over take on this
year by how Brian Kelly laid it out before this
he started to judging on year three not a passing
grade failure.
Speaker 2: But I like a.
Speaker 3: Lot of what I'm seeing going forward into the future.
I told you I think as LG defense could be
one of the best in the entire country next year.
It's full stop there. I don't even give you context.
I think that I can explained why if you want,
and then and then offensively, if you get Nick Garrett
Nasmyer back, I think you should be very.
Speaker 2: Good on that side of the ball as well. Like
for all.
Speaker 3: The talk during the bad month of is he the
right guy? Is the program moving in the right direction?
I am still bullish on the future of of LSU,
though I don't know if I'm quite as bullish a
landra As is.
Speaker 2: Uh, Brian Kelly himself.
Speaker 6: You know what camp you want to jump into, go
right ahead. You know, we had five freshmen and two
sophomores on defense today playing their tails off. So you know,
again we're taking receipts and you know, we'll see at
the National Championship. This team's building. We're excited about him
and we we really.
Speaker 3: We're really proud of them. So but that will open
up the questions. Dude jays Man said, he's taking a receipts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, well it's been loud. I mean obviously.
Speaker 4: Three weeks they're losing streak, and then into the Vainderbilt week,
it's been loud, and then you had the the sound
out of the stadium where you know, they're chanting and
his name and not in a good way. And so yeah,
I think that he certainly, you know, heard all of that.
I think it's hard now in today's day and age
to not hear that. And so this is a team
that roster wise, didn't you know, do some of the
things that everybody else was doing as far as portal additions,
and you know, they were kind of worried about the
locker room and what it would do. And I think
now that you kind of see that it's not the
thing that you thought it was going to be as
far as it affecting the locker room. And you look,
you still want to bring in the right guys, but
you can bring in portal players and it's not going
to be this toxic environment.
Speaker 3: Bottom line is, you got to pay to play. Dude,
look at everybody at the twinning. You gotta pay to play. Like, yeah,
you gotta make the right choices, but you gotta invest.
Speaker 4: You do, and so you've got to bring in I
mean he said it the other day, but you have
to bring in multiple, multiple starters through the portal now players, Yes,
starters through the portal like LSU what how many I
mean how many guys they bring in this year? Right,
like eight maybe something like that around that number.
Speaker 3: And you gotta starter in pis who ended up being
really solid for you.
Speaker 2: I name two more was George R. Gilbert was here
last year?
Speaker 4: Right, No, so Gilbert Gilbert is kind of the weakly
of your defense.
Speaker 2: And then Daniels has been really good. But yeah, I
mean Gilbert is in two of three.
Speaker 3: I mean you have three starters, and two of them
ended up being pretty c. J. Daniels leading the way,
then Piez. But then there is a big gap. Yeah,
then there's a big gap to get to Gilbert. But
you see the audio sheet. Oh no, I did not
think there's a couple more. He like elaborates on it. Yeah,
it was very funny. Uh, I think. Uh. Gilbert asked him,
you know, what did you mean by the National Days?
I don't think.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, was going press?
Speaker 3: Yeah again, everybody can make fun of the journalists all
you want. You have to press him in his opening
statement after this year when he references see you in
the Natty. If nobody follows up like, thank god, somebody
had the balls to press.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm not speaking to you. I'm
speaking to you know, everybody out there. Yeah, let's go
to Kelly Tin.
Speaker 6: Then look, listen, listen here here's my point. The standard
is the standard here, right, the standard. I didn't come
down here to go eight and four. I'm not happy
about eight and four. Okay, nobody in that room's happy
about being eight and four. What they're happy about is
they've played well after a three game losing streak and
they bounce back, and this game teaches you lessons about
grit and toughness and perseverance and not giving up and letting.
Speaker 3: Go of the rope.
Speaker 6: Right, They easily could have fractured, right. Instead, they stuck
together and they stayed committed, and they beat two teams
that were really good football teams in this league and
have pelts to show that they.
Speaker 2: Are good teams.
Speaker 6: Right when I'm making that narrative up. So at the
end of the day, we want to win every game
we play, and the standard at LSU at Alabama, they're
not happy with three losses. At Alabama, George is not
happy with with two losses. Nobody's happy when they lose
a game. But what I'm happy about in the short
term is the way our guys responded to adversity. That's
why I came in here and said, I'm proud of
our football team and the way they responded to adversity.
Speaker 2: So I agree that wholeheartedly, right.
Speaker 3: I think I think it's interesting in that it's a
bit of a nuanced conversation where we're, like he said,
in the short term, I'm very happy and I agree
with that. I also as a fan, AM very happy
in the short term with the finish of this football
team because it could have fallen apart each the last
couple of weeks and it could have ended up in
complete disaster mode. And you showed cultural, mental, and physical
toughness in your response to adversity. What is this sassy
answer here, Alda, I don't remember this. This is what
makes him so well? No, no, just play, Let's just play,
Let's let's ease. What what makes so confident about this?
Ferme going forward?
Speaker 6: What else would you like me to give you? I mean,
seven of the seven there's seven players with one year
experience on defense that just beat the pants off of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
Speaker 6: And they meet a really good Vanderbilt team the week before,
so you know they're five and three. We played a
lot of young players this year. You know, when you
take the body of work. You know, we had three
games that we had the lead late in the third
quarter that or we'd be talking about where's you know,
are we going to host? You know, so look, I
could I could go on and on about here's where
we're going to be in January. In January, well, I'll
back up yesterday at the Hotel, twenty one true freshmen
made the travel roster. Twenty one true freshmen. We're going
to introduce sixteen mid year freshmen into this roster. We
have preaty seven freshmen in winter conditioning for the first time.
That's what our roster looks like.
Speaker 2: That's exciting.
Speaker 6: So when you're talking about the foundation for your program,
that coupled with having key players come back. They haven't
announced yet, but we're gonna have some key players decide
to come back. That's what's pretty exciting. And when we
are finished with this roster, this roster will compete at
the highest level.
Speaker 3: So Kelly feeling very confident that they finally now have
kind of hit on maybe in establishing a bit of
that base that they saw to over the last couple
of years, and now also more open and understanding of
you might have to do more than just filling in
the corners in the portal obviously.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what they've done. And year one it
was fantastic. You hit on like all these people you
brought in and it was good.
Speaker 5: It was a core of your team.
Speaker 4: Year two big miss I think in the portal, and
then year three I'd say more of a miss than
a hit, because that's what you try to do. You
try to fill in some of the spaces of where
you felt like you were deficient. And you know, sometimes
when you go in the portal, it's going to be
like that. I mean, there's going to be some teams
that have big hauls that just don't turn out. And
there's gonna be something like Arizona State. Now it's playing
for the conference championship after having you know, massive portal halls,
and so it is tough because it is a little
bit of speed dating. But you bring more players in,
you're gonna have a bigger hit rate. Now you might
have more misses, but you're gonna have a bigger hit rate.
And this team needs, like to go with Keys and
McKinley and bro and Woodland and Relaford on defense. They
need a red shirt junior. They need a fifth year
senior or whatever. You know what I'm saying. They need
like a guy that's been through the fire, a guy
that has played big time moments, a guy that is
a game changer, be it from a group of five
school waiting to get his opportunity out of Power four
or somebody else that's been in the Power four that
you know, oh you might maybe you played against them,
and like, hey, we need like Xavion Thomas. That's another
hit in the portal that we hadn't mentioned, but like
they played against him last year, Like, uh, he's from Louisiana.
We need him in the return game. And how much
better did you feel this year? You know, punt returning? Yeah,
I mean you have in years fast right like that?
Speaker 2: In years?
Speaker 4: That's an impactful player you need. That's who you need.
You need impactful players that where you were deficient, you
went out and not not just getting players out of
the portal because ah man, that guy he was a
former five star and it's a position where you've got
three other guys.
Speaker 5: You don't need that right now. You need guys where
you're deficient.
Speaker 4: And this team has deficiencies certainly, right they lost four games.
Speaker 3: Attack the portal like you never have before.
Speaker 4: Hit on some starters, hit on some players that are
gonna be game changers, because it's no longer just filling
in the spaces. And I think with BK's comments, he
realizes that as well well.
Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, there's no bigger jump you take
between year one as a player or two as a
starter or somebody who plays a lot in the games,
and so it's always sucks when you're working through the
kind of growing pains in year one, but you've become
very excited about those guys going to your two. The
one thing I don't love is is kind of continue
to frame about the three losses or heavily late, because okay, yes,
but you also won two games that, like, if you're
saying those could have gone the other way, you have
two wins that could have easily gone the other way.
So it's a watch at the end of the day.
But I guess to your point, you only really got
blown out once, but you should honestly get blown out nunts.
So I mean, that's a good made up word, isn't it.
We talked about those three losses and one being a blowout. Yeah, yeah,
well I don't want to go, well, well, well another
think actually, yeah, let's say this is Kelly nine, good call, Andre,
this is this is him.
Speaker 2: He was asked if those losses were humbling.
Speaker 3: Humbling.
Speaker 6: Humbling would not be the word I would use. I
would say that they lacked the execution necessary and we
needed it most, and so they were frustrating more than
they were humbling. Humbling losses are more like the Alabama game,
where you didn't play your best football. Those are humbling losses.
The three losses that we had outside the Alabama game
would be much more frustrating because he had a chance
to win those games and you really should have won
those games, including the USC game where we had the
lead up to the last possession. So those were frustrating
losses because we didn't execute when we needed to execute
and we were capable of doing so.
Speaker 3: And then finally, here is Kelly on uh, this is
Kelly eleven. This is on him again being bullish on
the future regardless of what people may think.
Speaker 6: Big picture is, I'm excited about our future, regardless of
what people seem to think. And that's okay. Everybody's entitled
to their opinions, but nobody knows what it looks like
from the inside. I've got the best perspective of that,
and you can ride away and have your own opinions,
and that's fine. That's why you guys have a pulpit
to do that. I have a better perspective of it.
I don't listen to what you have to say, and
we're going to build it the way we know that
we're going to build it. And I'll see you in
the National Championship game.
Speaker 3: They call that a double down? Is that a triple down?
I would down at that point. Yeah, Yeah, I'll see
you in the National Championship game, Jake. That is very
interesting audio to put out there. Brian Kelly's been in
this game for a long time. He understands how No,
exactly right, but you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He understands how the media game works.
Speaker 2: Uh, he knows.
Speaker 3: And I think he also knows how kind of the
national media feel about him, whereverybody's always kind of waiting
in the wings just kind of like, you know, make
fun of him and crap on him. He just put
out some audio that he knows is going to be
loaded up in the chamber YEP for years if he
if he does not find a way to justify it.
So I think I think that's uh that that shows
you maybe a bit how confident he is in the
response that he saw out of this team, and how
confident he is in kind of long term where this
team is going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's somebody that I think kind of going back
and recapping everything we've talked about here in this segment.
It's somebody that knows that they they didn't attack this
roster like they probably should have.
Speaker 5: And I think that he knows that there is going
to be.
Speaker 4: A great opportunity to add multiple, multiple players to this team.
Speaker 5: We've talked about it, right, They've got money to spend.
He mentioned it.
Speaker 4: He said, we're under the cap, like they are going
to add a ton of players to this roster, and
not just through this. Look, they still got a really
good high school recruiting class. Is it what it once was? No,
but it's still going to be a top ten. It's
going to have multiple players that play multiple years for you.
I think he's bullish because he knows they've got money
to spend. They are going to use that money to
retain some players that normally would go to the NFL.
After last year, you lost players that probably shouldn't have
gone to the NFL, but they did well. This year,
you're gonna be able to retain a lot of those players,
including guys that are a key.
Speaker 5: Different first round type guys.
Speaker 4: You get to retain those guys, and then you also
get to go spend some money and add dynamic playmakers
to this roster with what That's why he keeps laying out,
in my opinion, the freshman. He keeps laying out the
five freshmen on defense and all the young players that
are traveling because he's going to pair what he brings
in with those players. Now, you're going to be graded
incredibly hard.
Speaker 2: You already were.
Speaker 5: It's lsu. That's that's the easy statement.
Speaker 3: Like we know that.
Speaker 4: But when you say you know things like that, and
you mentioned national championships, like you're going to be held
to that standard, you already are here.
Speaker 3: I mean, it kind of is what it is.
Speaker 4: So the players that you bring in you feel, you know,
you feel bullish right now, not even really knowing necessarily
who those players are. You got a little bit of
an idea because coaches tall the transfer portal, everybody knows
who is going in for the most part. But you know,
when you say something like that, like you feel like
you've got a pretty good.
Speaker 5: Idea of who potentially you could bring in here.
Speaker 2: I think it's gotta be Clemson. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3: Is the first one in Little Death Valley?
Speaker 2: So sad, so sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so sad that here we sit and man
it bums me out.
Speaker 2: Regular season's over.
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Off the Bench.
Speaker 3: Sall Dangerous. Welcome back to OTV. Adam says, Look, I
like this from Kelly. That's what I want my coach
to believe. I mean, he has to think this right,
and he should. His team will be really good next year.
So again he's not necessarily saying next year to be fair,
for whatever that's worth. But yeah, of course you always
want your coach to Maybe I feel this internally, but
I do agree with you if you ask me if
I like it or not that he said in public,
I do. I do like it. I do like kind
of meeting that beast head on and then somebody else
I can't find if somebody else founded like well, he
kind of said the same thing about year number three, right,
and look what happened there.
Speaker 2: But I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really care, you know again, like I would,
I would rather the coach feel empowered and common enough
to take those shots than it kind of go half step,
and and and pussy footing around a lot, and then
and then Patrick's talking about how there's no way LSU
gets better. Uh, they're gonna lose four offensive linemen, lose
Kyrin Lacy, Mason Taylor, Josh Williams, and we're gonna get better.
I would say this, I think there's a very good
chance in Mary Jones stays. Uh, there seems to be
some momentum that Mason Taylor stays as well. And Uh,
losing Josh Williams is awesome. In fact, what are you awful?
I mean one of ourn no, one of the one.
Speaker 5: I was like, are you on that train like all
these other fools.
Speaker 3: One of the game notes I didn't get to was
he was again sneaky good. The first guy never got
him down this last game. He had a lot of
big conversions. Uh. But like, I mean, come on, look
at Kaden Durham going into year two, like he has
like superstar potential with more experience.
Speaker 4: I look, you're bringing in the number one running back
in the Cory, You're bringing the.
Speaker 2: Number one in the country.
Speaker 3: Who knows if you go portal rounde. I mean, maybe
Cale Jackson now finds his way a bit too, Like
I'm more worried about losing Josh for a leadership standpoint
than almost anything else. Uh And then like, Okay, yeah,
you're losing alignment, but you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get like it's it's it's it's a given.
Speaker 3: Take, it's how it happens, dude, Like, I don't know. Actually,
the main the main point is that we're talking about
offense the defense. The defense again could be not good
but great next season. But these coaches, if you give
them dudes, which I believe you will this offseason, which
you have some young dudes that are only gonna take
massive steps forward, this defense could be one of the
best in the I mean the emergence of Devon Keith,
are you kidding me? Him in weeks and then you
get a couple more weeks brothers back in the mix
as well. You're losing Zi, Rightzi's done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Alexander's done. Which that you know, that's you're gonna
have to make him for that.
Speaker 3: That's a big boy, that's a big one. He's one
of the more.
Speaker 4: Underrated players in the country. Like I that's not just
me saying that, like talking to different scouts. Yeah, and uh,
you know Jim Naggy, executive director of the Senior Bowl,
talking with him like he is.
Speaker 5: He is a very early draft grade type guy.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying like first round or anything, but he
is going to be drafted in the first three rounds
and play for a very long time.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: Pat says, we got crapped on all up front all
year year long, and I'll tell me it's gonna better
with absolutely no supporting data, facts or feelings even know.
I mean, I I I Okay. First off, you didn't
get crapped on all year upfront like that's that's insane.
You did you You're not a good run blocking team,
still don't know why, but you're like the best pass
blocking team I've ever seen. Uh So you'll you'll get worse.
You will be a worst pass blocking team. This is
objectively true. Uh but you also have a quarterback that's
a year more experience. It can better protect himself with
decision making and whatnot. I don't expect you to be
an awful pass blocking team. I mean, I look at
how these young guys pass block, and it speaks to
Brad Davis's ability to develop guys and and and and
teach him how to do that, and if you're that
bad at run blocking, then you might get better there.
So like I mean, it's it's these things are not
quite as clear cut as you're trying to make them
out to be. And I think there are, uh, there
are reasons to feel to feel bullish about about next season.
And look, nothing's more important than quarterback, bottom line, nothing's
more important than the quarterback. And so if you get
Garrisonssemeyer back fresh off of what will likely end in
a four thousand yard season after the bowl game, damn
near thirty touchdowns. Okay like that that that that's something
that is going to have a massive Uh, that's the
biggest impact is just getting the quarterback back.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's where everything's stick.
Speaker 3: I would I would, I would agree that I actually
don't think they'll be good next year. If Garrett Nessmeyer
doesn't return, like then I could agree that hoping for
them to be better next year is probably a step
too far. Well, but if us comes.
Speaker 4: Back, now you know, there's a couple of different things
that are pointing to him coming back. You know, Ricky
Collins enters the transfer portal, that's you know, a backup
quarterback that probably understands what's going to happen next year. Yeah,
so he's in the portal. Like Garrett ness Meyer's dad
is an NFL quarterback coach. He's been an offensive coordinator. Like,
there's things that that he knows what you know and
what it takes to be NFL ready. And so if
he didn't think his son's ready to go to the NFL,
if he thinks he can come back, and you know
the old Bill Parcells like he never wanted a quarterback
that only started one year in college. Yeah, just did
not want it. He wanted at least two. I would
assume that neus Meyer's dads can be like, hey, so
look right now, if you come out, you'll get drafted
in the first two rounds. I mean that's that's great.
But if you come back and if you get better
on those things that during you know, one stretch of
the season you struggle with, you might be the first
one off the board. Like right now, mel Kiper's got
you top five. But if you come back and you
have the season that I think you can have, you
might be the first one off the board. So there's
a lot of things pointing to Neussmeyer coming back as well.
Speaker 7: What he said postgame, he said, we wanted to send
these seniors out on the right way. This was their
last game in Tiger Stadium and all that never said
we said there, And.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it.
Speaker 3: It's not the dame of a deal, but.
Speaker 7: Like that, reading between the lines a little bit, he said,
you know, I didn't I didn't want to send these
seniors out with me sitting on the sidelines because of
an injury. It's part of the reason I came back
in this game. So, you know, just just little things
like that.
Speaker 4: And so you mentioned the running back position, and you're right,
like Hayden Durham over five and a half yards per
carry this year, really looks like he is lined up
to be a superstar potentially next year you have Barry
coming in. We'll see what happens with Cale Jackson. Certainly,
you know we were all expecting.
Speaker 5: More this year.
Speaker 4: Only three point six yards per carry. I mean, think
about how long couldgo? This feels John Emery at one
time this year was you know, somebody that we were
excited about after the USC game. But you bring in backs,
that's not going to be a worry there because of
who you have coming back. And I know there was
some Oregon Caden Durham stuff out there. He kind of
shut that down on Twitter himself. Receiver wise, all right,
you expect to get Aaron Anderson back. The potential for CJ.
Daniels is what BK said a week ago. If you
can get Mason Taylor back Xavion Thomas, can you get
Chris Hilton Junior back for another year?
Speaker 5: How much can you develop trades Green in that role.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about lshite receiver. Dude, I don't care
who you're losing. You're gonna find somebody like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm I'm really not. I think I think you're I
think you've proven over time there that you know how
to recruit as long as you got Quartes Hankedon. I
A'm worried about receiver. I guess that would be the
shortest way to say that if Handon left, if he does,
if that happens, that'll be a pretty.
Speaker 2: Big blow to you have to overcome.
Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah, even if, like I agree, you laid
out some of the names who it's gonna be, But
like again, I actually feel very very comfortable and uh
and in that position group, judge me off. Year three says,
say my name, it's a direct p quote quote PK quote.
Year three is an absolute failure. So I feel, bolsham,
you're for it completely fair perspective. It's completely fair perspective,
and I think I laid out my reasons why. But
if you disagree like I, I I understand. I mean,
for me, it is mainly quarterback and defense. If you
want to be really succinct about it, I think the
defense is going to take a huge leap next year.
You can, uh yeah. It talked to me about how
statistically they weren't very impressive this year, and I understand that,
but I feel like you really maximized what you had
this season, and so if you give them better ingredients,
what can they cook up? And I think that's gonna happen.
So that's why I would footballs. But you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just feeling great because a couple of wins.
Speaker 4: This is from DJ Trump and the chat. I think
he means past blocking. He says, Kaden Durham has major
issues run blocking. He's not fullback, he's not run blocking.
I think he means pass blocking. That's why he wasn't
in there as much as he should have been. I mean, yeah,
Josh Williams is certainly the more trusted pass protector every
major third down.
Speaker 5: That's one of the reasons why he was in there.
Speaker 4: But I will I will tell you this, the biggest
thing that changed for me at the running back position
year one a year two, it wasn't how.
Speaker 5: To run the football. You were born to run the football.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 5: I've always believed that.
Speaker 4: That's why, you know, that's why the most athletic on
of the team doesn't always play running back. You can
always you can either do it or you can't. You
can read a zone or you can't. You can read
a power you can't. So like that part of it.
I really truly feel like you're born for a portion
of it. Can you get better at sure, But Kayden
dorm knows how to run the football. It's in past protection.
It's understanding your past protection. Now it's a little bit
easier now than it was, Like they're not doing a
lot of cross key stuff. But the most confidence that
you'll get at your time in college football is past protection.
You're one to year two, you're one. You just you
you memorize who you have. You kind of know you
know who you have. You're basically just like play watching
to see who's coming, like, oh, that's my guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Year two, you know who your guy is.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 4: Year two you understand the assignment. You're three four, you
start to understand everybody's assignment. You understand you know, coverages
and where they're at on the field, where they can
come from, where they can't come from. But year two,
it's no longer memorizing maybe sort of kind of who
my guy is.
Speaker 5: You know who it is. So it's not that he
can't do it.
Speaker 4: I think confidence and at least from me and every
other back then, I've talked with that confidence in pass protection.
You know, year one, you just don't have it. You
don't have it. You weren't asked to do it in
high school. In high school, you were free released because
you were the best player in the field and they
were trying to get you the football. So I don't
know if Kayden dorm will ever be an elite pass
blocker like I'll lah darren Sproles or somebody, but I
think you will see a difference going into next year.
Speaker 3: We'll see we'll see but there it is season interview.
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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk maybe off the bench?
Speaker 3: Oh what adding y'all?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to otb uh.
Speaker 3: The New Orleans Saints fall twenty one fourteen to the
Rams yesterday and to this pointy game for multiple reasons.
Uh it was a late afternoon games who had already
known that the Atlanta Falcons had dropped.
Speaker 2: Uh, therefore your yeah yeah to Jake's boltz.
Speaker 3: I know, Jake, you were your two loves Kirk cousins
in the Bolts doing battle. Only one could win. I'm
sure you were actually happy. Was it was the Bolts though,
I'm four passes, but so they know so so going
into the game the Saints, you know what's on the line.
You win that game all of a sudden, your one
game behind in the NFC South. And it started so
well offensively, Jake, you were so efficient early on moving
the ball, a great run in pass mix, Kamer making plays,
Taysom Hill making plays, not having to rely on Derek Carr,
Like you can't rely to Derek Carr, right, everything has
to be working around him, and then you hope that
he supplements and and he fills in around the edges.
Without a doubt, the biggest crux point of the game
just feels like the illegal man downfield, well Ima just
barely getting a little two out over his toes trying
to fire off, tries to scramble back immediately to the
line of scrimmage, but it takes a touchdown off the board.
You then miss the field goal to follow up, and
what should have been a ten to nothing game is
three to nothing. And that was enough to open the
door for a Hall of Fame quarterback in Matt Stafford
and Nikua just making seven thousand catches and sew, maybe
it just opened the door enough for them to come
back and find a way to win that game twenty
one fourteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and defensively you did enough, and you mentioned Matthew Stafford,
I mean, but you still you kept him in check
for the most part, and pookin Nakua did have five
catches and they all kind of came at the same time.
But I still think you did a really nice job
five for fifty six on him.
Speaker 5: You look at Cooper Cup only three for seventeen.
Speaker 4: I mean, the defense did their job, you know, obviously
had the Robinson the long play there, and you're not
expecting that to come from him. He's been good this year,
but you're expecting that maybe to come from Pookin Naku
or Cooper Cup, even Kyraen Williams. I know he got
over one hundred, but I mean, you've been poor in
your rush defense all season long, and you did well enough.
He only got one oh four on the ground. So
the defense gave you every opportunity to go win the game.
Just offensively, you couldn't you mentioneding, you know, take a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Off the board.
Speaker 4: That's that's always going to be just a backbreaker. Like
were talking to l SU LSU Florida. You take that
touchdown with the Karen Lacy offensiveass interference off the board,
you settle for a field goal. What's that game look
like if you keep that touchdown on the board. And
so when you take points off like that, it's hard
to come back from. And in the second half, the
Rams made the adjustments on offense and defense that you
did not make because you really you it was sixth
to nothing, but you dominated and had fuel control of
the first halfic you know, had a little bit of
an A and M phil to it. But and then
Taysum goes down. It's like, man, he was your your
leading receiver. There were things that you know he does
not only when he's getting the ball, when he's not
getting the ball, that you just you lose when he's
not in there. And Derek Carr was too much, too
much check down Charlie, I mean five yards per attempt. Yeah,
like when you throw about thirty seven times and you
only have one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 3: Four yards to show for it like that, and that's
with a pretty deep I mean, how far was the
MVS touchdown?
Speaker 2: That was also not crazy, but it is kind it
is kind of funny. I was waiting. I was kind
of joking, like.
Speaker 3: Man, we haven't even seen our we haven't even seen
our MBS yet, And then it actually happened. I was like, well,
be damn bro. Yeah, he actually has been pretty good.
But look you Neil, I mean, Taysom going down, are
you kidding me? We've seen it already this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe. Eric McCoy is the only other biggest achilles heel.
The way that Clint Kubiak uses him really has fulfilled
all of the used chick very kind of reductive parallels
that we made before the season started, and when you
lose taste him on this team, it just nothing works
as well. And it looks like he's going to be
out for the year. The fears that this season any
knee injury, it did not look great. Thankfully tire Matthews
injury now that series, but unfortunately this did kind of
feel like the final stand maybe for the great hope
of the season and making something out of it. I
think there's going to be a very interesting and nuanced
conversation about this offense. I wonder what happens to Koubek.
I really believe in him. I don't know if there's
aay of these surprives. Kind of the same thing with Rizzy.
I mean, again, this is not a bad game from
this Saints team. They made a few too many mistakes
to win, but it didn't I don't know, it didn't
feel like it is asked or like, I don't know
what's gonna happen with Rizzy either.
Speaker 2: This probably holds.
Speaker 3: Him back from being able to get, you know, the
job as a bridge guy or anything else like that.
But it's just disappointing because they played well, and they
and they definitely played well enough to win just a
couple too many stakes and then again some bad injury luck,
which has kind of been the themes of the entire
year up to this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you feel bad, you know, obviously for interim coach,
and he's got the momentum going. It's like you kind
of have to be perfect if you want an opportunity
to go get this job. And so like now you
look up and this was the portion of the schedule
where and you still got one more of these type
of games that we kind of laid out though you
got the Giants coming up.
Speaker 5: That game is going to be on the road.
Speaker 4: But then it kind of gets back into you got
the Commanders and you gotta go on the road to
lambeau Field.
Speaker 3: You do get the.
Speaker 4: Raiders, but then you got to play the Buccaneers on
the road. So there's still some difficult games where you're
going to be an underdog, and we keep having the
conversation because the division is so bad. You kind of
get excited and if you'd have won this game, you're
sitting there, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, and you're five to seven, you're in it.
Speaker 4: But now like just with one game, with what you
have coming up, you feel like your chances are probably gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree. So very disappointing. Somebody says,
maybe don't a teap out, maybe don't base your offen
during an injury prone thirty four year old. Okay, fair, fair, fair,
But when it works, it's awesome. You know, when it's working,
it's awesome. So we'll continue that. Now, you just got
to kind of take this season as it comes. You know,
been lose, you want them to win. It's it's it's complicated.
Speaker 4: Look, and I love Taysom Hill. I think Key is
like everything that you would want in a football player.
And there's you know, portions of his game that really
honestly are like nobody else. I mean, he is a
unicorn and then aspect, but anytime that he's your leading
receiver with thirty seven yards, that's not good. That that's
not what you and not when you're throwing the ball
thirty seven times, you don't want your you know, emergency
quarterback slash tight end, fullback, running back to be your
leading receiver. And so his injury, it already has shown
this year, like you mentioned t it's already shown like
there's too much reliance on Taysom Hill. Like Taysum's awesome,
and Taysom could be a real weapon, but when you
have to count on him so much, the offensive philosophy
is not where it needs.
Speaker 3: Well, that's where we get back to Loomis in the
front office. Yeah, you you have given Kubiak like Dorito's.
You know, you get like Dorito's like overprocessed cheese, baloney
and been like, hey, make something impressive, and I actually
think he has, Like if you ate what he cooked,
you're like, this tastes better than it should.
Speaker 2: But it's it's not going to be enough in the end.
Speaker 3: Last thing, completely random, Brandon Fisk made one of the
most athletic plays I've ever see that that will not
count that fumble recovery where he hits the knee power
slide into immediately popping up on his feet and then
finding a way to cut back and finish in the
end zone.
Speaker 2: Like that. Dude's a freaking beast.
Speaker 3: Uh. You see everybody hating on Miles Frasier right when
Miles basically told him like, hey, that dude's a dog. No, okay,
that dude is a dog. Five Okay. Sometimes you gotta.
Speaker 5: Give up at Western Michigan.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to.
Speaker 3: Give credit where credits due and brain fisk is a
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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the best morning sports this show around
off the Bench with Hester and t Bob over.
Speaker 3: Welcome back eventually. I mean a lot of I do
want to touch on the Pelicans sub next Eric. There
an abject disaster and it's like it is, you know, unfortunately,
this feels like the Infra Griffin Company.
Speaker 2: Don't Scott to be.
Speaker 3: But but but Jake, you tease me right before we
came back. I did, uh Brett Bilima Uh speaking to Lane.
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know if you saw, but Lane Kiffin
tag the call football playoff and then he gives you,
like all these different metrics of what ole Miss has
done this year, who they beat, who they beat beat,
and like, you know, all these different things.
Speaker 3: I'll say this real quick on Ole Miss when it
comes to the SEC three loss teams. I do think
after talking out objectively, they they have the best. Well,
I could craft an argument of South Carolina, but like
if you've just been Old Miss and Alabama, ole Miss
actually has a better resume. I don't know why Alabama
is getting pumped up ahead of them because.
Speaker 5: They're you know, Alabama.
Speaker 4: So Brett Blima Bert our guy who's coaching at Illinois now,
you know, spend time in the SEC. Well, he quote
tweets Lane's whole deal, you know, explaining why they should
be in the playoff, and he said I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 3: Lane.
Speaker 4: Here's a thought for the college football playoff and he
tags both Ole Miss number thirty one strength of schedule,
has three losses to unranked Kentucky Florida and eight and
four LSU. Illinois has number thirty in strength of schedule
and has three losses to number one Oregon, number four
Penn State, and in one position game to Minnesota. How
about we just take the twelve best teams and see
where it goes. I like the idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, look right, yeah, I think. God, they gotta
be kicking themselves in the minnesot loss, otherwise Illinois might
be sneaking in there as well.
Speaker 5: I have no state too, by the way, I mean
watch that game.
Speaker 2: Wait what he oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yees Penn State.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, h Taylor. You think Alabama's resuming somehow
veteran myths.
Speaker 7: No, but I think South Carolina is just objectively better.
Speaker 2: Okay, so right now I agree with you.
Speaker 3: My problem is that it's kind of at odds with
a lot of things I said about why do we
play the games? But if I wanted, but if I
wanted to craft the South kind of argument, it would
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know this, but it is our belief that they are
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