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Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in former by

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great quarterback. We got Steve Klements on the live Steve,

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how is your weekend?

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Speaker 3: Buddy?

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Speaker 4: Oh that's great? Man, I've never had a bad weekend

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since I joined the workforce at fifteen years old. So

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it's great.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Man, Glad all is well in your world.

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Speaker 2: Look, I know this is a football segment, but BYU

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basketball getting a sixth seed gonna be taken on either

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NC State or Texas. Then they'll take on if they win,

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if they survive in advance in the round of sixty four,

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they'll be taking on Kennesaw State or Gonzaga. How far

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do you think BYU is gonna go in this NCAA tournament?

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You think they go one and done, Round of thirty two,

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Sweet sixteen, Elite eight or better?

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Speaker 4: No? I think ah, boy, sweet sixteen means they beat

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Gonzaga on essentially their home floor. Boy, that would be

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a really tough thing for them to do. But I

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mean it's March madness, dude, and we're not supposed to

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do anything now that riches out and we've had these

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injuries all year, and so I well, you never know.

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It's why what you can't get past get through the

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second day with a clean bracket. I don't think it's

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ever been done. Maybe the third day. I can't remember. Us.

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You can't let's get through the first weekend without a

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perfect bracket. It's never happened, you know, So dude, March madness.

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Everybody's zero and zero and let's let's go. Let's it's

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It's an exciting time to be a Coogar fan a

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lot of different different ways, right.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it. It's a great day to be Coogar.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the glory days, right, like when all

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was well, when we were just doing great. The seventies

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and eighties, especially the eighties were the glory days. In

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my opinion, you were part of some great eras you

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were part of great era as well.

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Speaker 3: See don't get me wrong, but like.

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Speaker 2: This, truly it it's.

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Speaker 3: In all the glory days if you will.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. I mean, bou athletics is on

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the rise, and not just on the rise. I think

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they've always kind of been that, but you're seeing kind

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of a level of consistency throughout the athletic department, not

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just in say the major sports of football, basketball, but

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in other sports as well. And uh yeah, like you said,

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it's it's great to be a Cougar to establish this

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long last of tradition. But getting to a point to

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where our sports or individual sports are now becoming elite

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and consistently, you know, being on the national stage and

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being in the hunt for national championship at least the

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conference championship. And that's that goes without saying on really

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every single sport and our athletic program has a chance

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every year to at least win a conference championship. And

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that's that's that's good, and that's good for you know,

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the program, is good for alumni, is good for Brian Santiago,

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you know, him stepping in and doing this for the

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first time. And uh so, yeah, all is good, man.

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Speaker 2: Hey, all is well in Zion right now. Uh And look,

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Camp Koalani's well underway right now too.

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Speaker 3: And there's been some great storylines coming out of camp.

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Speaker 2: The one one story I'm intrigued by right now is

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the quarterback two battle. What have you been hearing about

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Trayson Borgay and Goldie Enick Watson? Uh, do we have

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depth there at quarterback? Do we have guys behind Bear Bachmeier?

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he's he's a thick, he's a dense dude.

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Speaker 3: He does not get injured.

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Speaker 2: He take a lot of hits, and he stayed healthy

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for the majority of the season.

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Speaker 3: But just in case, I got to know.

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Speaker 2: Who's behind our guy right now, Bear Bachmeier, And I

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know Trayson's older, wiser, He's got a lot of experience

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as a college football play You also got the young

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buck Enick Watson. How do we feel about right right

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about the depth at quarterback right now?

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Speaker 4: I think we're I think we're good in the QB

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room because you you have Tracy being the veteran that

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he has, he has the locker room behind him, and

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he's gonna he's gonna go managed a football game and

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he's gonna perform. There's no substitute for experience. And it's

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not a knock on Enich, but Trason right now has experience.

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has experienced not just on the field, but at the

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Division one level performing beating Michigan State years ago. And

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significant time, but that's it's almost like muscle memory for me. One.

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the Saturday afternoon in the fall, then that's you know,

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you've got one more arrow in the quiver than somebody

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like Enig that comes off young, extremely talented. Can he

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surpass Tracey? Sure he can playbook athleticism, ability and whatever

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is happening between the ears. Hopefully that comes to fruition

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in the fall that he can maybe early in the season,

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get some reps in the fourth quarter some of the

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games that might get out of hand, so that he

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can get a taste of it so it's not foreign

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to him when indeed he's called upon, and maybe he

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makes the jump to number two. But as I see

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it right now, I think it's better than Trason with

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the experience that he has. The nod over right now.

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Speaker 3: We're in the middle of March. There's plenty to be done.

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Speaker 2: But it is hard to unseat the tenured guy right this,

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this seasoned vet that's in front of you. I mean,

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you've seen many quarterback competitions, You've been a part of

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many core quarterback competitions.

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Speaker 3: How difficult is it?

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Speaker 2: Even if you are, you know, potentially more talented, you

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have better arm strength, you better athlete, it's difficult to

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unseat that that tenured season vet in front of you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, it's it's really I mean, you're he's

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kind of the incumbent. I guess I'm going to use

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a political term. Sure, uh, the incumbent backup too, you know,

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I think a Heisman Trophy candidate, probably in mid season

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of his sophomore year. And so you know when you

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have the locker room behind you, which in essence you

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have the coaching staff behind you, and he's played the

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role quite perfectly. I mean I've seen, you know, he's

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doing things for kids and in his off season, in

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his off time, and he's just he's been out there

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in the community and he's become kind of a little

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crowd favorite. He's one of my favorites. But but I have,

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you know, intimate knowledge, and you know, I've had a

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conversation with him about five to ten minutes last year,

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and it just seems to be a really great kid

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feed or firm, firmly planet on the ground, and he

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understands his role and he relishes the role that he has,

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even though it's a backup. We all want to start.

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he gets it, he understands it. He's got a role

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and he's accepted the role. And I think that's why

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Byu has been so good the last couple of years.

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you know the older upperclassman Klawnie does a good job

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in jay Hill until this past. You're an a rod

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of defining everybody's roles, so they have to be good

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with it or if not, then yeah there's going to

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a leadership and you have a successful head coach that's

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done it the right way for quite amount of time.

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to Bayu the last ten years is that everybody has

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a role, and you play your role to the best

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of your ability. You do whatever you can to support

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your team wherever that's a backup, whether it's starter, whether

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it's special team, whether you're on the bench, Like we're

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all in this together and we need everyone doing their things,

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doing their playing their role, whether it's scout team or whatever,

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because if it doesn't happen, then you don't have these success,

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successful seasons like we've seen the last three or four years.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta stay consistent and uh, you know, you gotta

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buy into the Klondi culture right now. If you're a

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if you're a BYU fan, I know that, uh your

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body and you see it. What stands after you at

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the Colonia culture that you're kind of proud of right

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now and watching these young men buy in and ball.

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Speaker 4: Out for Brigham, well, I think number one, he's a

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player's coach. I think level is a players coach. He

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is a players coach, meaning he he's gonna you know

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that he's gonna support you no matter what, whether it's

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gonna have your back. He's more he's more of a

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big brother without graying the line of coach player, if

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that makes sense, because once you start to gray the

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line and you become guy's friends, then maybe you don't

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have as much respect. But I think he does a

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really good job of I think being coached from Mabel

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who did a masterful job of being a player's coach.

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talk to Clonnie about a grievance they might have, but

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also telling him about a celebration they might have in

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their life. And so once you generate a culture like that,

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then and everybody gets bought in. It's you know, your

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head coach has your back, and your coordinators having your

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back and coaching staff. Then it filters down into the players.

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leadership within that culture and you're just plug and play

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really every year. And you know, and then you go

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to the the acumen as far as all knowledge. On

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the defensive side, you got one of the best DC's

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type of defense his entire career. That's helping K Pop

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an a rod's a season better. We don't have guys

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that have you know, called i mean outside of defense.

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rodeo calling a defense. But he's been around the game

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so long, for so much, even with his brother being

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and the depth that we're establishing in the spring, but

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head and coach Anderson and a Rod and all assistance

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that we've assembled and got here. Yeah, things are Things

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are good.

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Speaker 3: All is well.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Steve Klement's talking some BYU football. I do

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want to bring up a college football storyline. I don't

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know if you've been keeping track of this nc Double

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A versus Trinidad Chimbliss Chambliss preliminary injunction the nc DOUBLEA.

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Speaker 3: This was back on March fifth.

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Speaker 2: The NCUBA was appealing to Trinidad Chambers's preliminary injunction, which

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granted him eligibility for the twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 3: Now his eligibility is technically up.

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Speaker 2: But he's had you know, I mean he injuries and

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transfers and other things. It was a six hundred and

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fifty eight page filing to the Mississippi State Supreme Court

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on March fifth. The NCAA is asking the court to

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overrull the injunction and expect the ruling so like there

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was a judge that essentially granted him eligibility rights. Then

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the NCUALEA counters now all uh Trinidad. Chamberlass's lawyers have

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filed a response to the NCAA's appeal of Chamberlass's eligibility

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ruling in Mississippi.

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Speaker 3: State Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: It's fairly straightforward and argues that the NCAA hasn't met

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the standard for the appeal and an expedited review isn't warranted.

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Speaker 3: This thing's going back and forth.

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Speaker 2: What's your kind of opinion on like eligibility rules, like

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should it be just five for five, six for six?

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because like technically it's it's kind of illegal to say,

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like you can't go work in for for for a

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I guess a college football team or nil team, Like

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it's not necessarily a W two employer, it's a W

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nine independent contractor. I mean, you're just seeing all these

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things occur in and you just wonder where it's all

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going to play out and how it's going to play out.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's semantics, and that's why the nl it's just

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a whild while lesson. It's ridiculous right now because I

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mean you have, whether it's basketball or football or really

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any sport, you have kids that are twenty five, twenty six,

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twenty seven years old that are playing collegiate athletics. And

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that's just at some point you got to stop the madness.

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I mean, it's it's really yeah, whether it's five or

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five or one transfer or you get it. You know,

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I say, you get one transfer on the second transfer

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if the coach leaves, yeah, you can be granted a

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second transfer. But that's it, man, I mean we're just

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like and then the nil deal with yeah exactly, semantics

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is a W two versus W nine and they're really employee.

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Well he is getting paid, but he's not an employee

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of the university per se. He's not working for university,

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but then kind of he is. But then n images,

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image likeness has been so bastardized. How they've taking name,

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image and likeness and just really turned it upside down

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and inside out and made it to wherever it benefits,

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you know, on eighteen nineteen all the way up to

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twenty five and twenty six year old now. And so

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I don't know, but a lot of things after you've done,

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I know they've been calling people into Congress to see

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if the government can help. And boy, I don't know,

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but you got to. You gotta start making some rules

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here really really quick as far as the transfer and

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maybe money or limits.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like illegal to put those parameters in place,

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Like I think it's it's a legal thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I exactly. Well, and you get a legal thing

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exactly because different than different lawyers in different courts and

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different judges can read say different ways. Right.

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Speaker 2: That's why like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer and all

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these like co which is are like, hey, we need

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the federal government to step in and let the federal

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government give the NCAA and its sponsoring institutions legal presidents

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to operate as a monopoly like they used to and

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have arbitrary jurisdiction over these student athletes again and put

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them on a pay scale of they only get this

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amount of money with their.

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Speaker 3: Little scholarship check. That's what they want.

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Speaker 2: They want that exemption to be able to operate as

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a monopoly again.

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Speaker 4: Right. Well, I'll tell you what's said is what's gone

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by the wayside is the importance of free education. No

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one talks about the scholarship going to essentially a free

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education for these college athletes. And in some places you're

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talking about a curve of a million dollars over span

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of four or five years for a really, really good

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at education that they're going to have to utilize probably

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if not a year out of college, maybe a couple

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of years if they're lucky. You know, they get lucky

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and they get into a pros regardless of the sport

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or the Olympics or whatever. And no one talks about

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that anymore. That used to be a big freaking deal, right,

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You get a free ride, you get a scholarship, free education.

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You're talking to CEOs and your study groups at college,

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and you've got all these connections and you've made all

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these friendships and relationships in classes and studying and this

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and that and the college life and universe. Like, no

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one talks about that. It's like it's just about money now.

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And it's sad because the education is going to last them.

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That money is going to run out at some point

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if they don't do it right, and then that all

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they have is their education to fall back on. Well,

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if you're transferring from school to school, they don't lose,

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they don't a lot of those. When I when I

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transferred from Texas to BOU, I only have three credits

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transfer at thirty six that I had through two semesters

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in a swimmer school the transfer. So if I go

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transfer again to whatever Alabama or UCL or whoever, then

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I probably lose another year. Well, I never graduate unless

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I'm a you know, a seven year eight year college student.

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And I guess if they're going to allow eligibility to continue,

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I guess maybe they can. They can get that done.

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But it's sad that they're putt in really the educational

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portion of this as a non issue or unimportant or

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at less very less stressed than it used to be.

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Speaker 2: And that well, I think I think part of the

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issue too is like your education that you got and

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the education that I got because of the hour is

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allocated to football strength and conditioning practice, you know, everything

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that went into it, Like it's hard to compete in

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the classroom. Your your education MINUSERT wasn't the same as

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the education that others got because of the hours of

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allocation that had to be engaged in.

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Speaker 3: On the football field. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: And so like I get I agree with you, Like

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it's been decreased, but also the requirement on of football

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and travel and you know, getting concussions every single day.

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disadvantage academically when you're trying to compete in the classroom

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versus full time students.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really does, because you know, you've committed and

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you've gone to school there to play a particular sport

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because they're investing you in a you know, a scholarship

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and a four year education at no cost. Plus we're

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going to give you a little bit of extra money.

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So you've committed to that. So yeah, between if you're

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a football player, between well now until November, yeah, you've

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got travel, and you've got practice, and you've got this

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and you've got that. But it's still I mean what

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they've limited the amount of practices you can have where

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it's important. If it's stress, then it's going to be

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stressed to the individual player. And they're going to go

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to class in the spring even though it's not football season,

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and they're going to get back and they're they're gonna fly.

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Like I know, I heard this. I was up from

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a third FLOORID administration building and a couple of people

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were talking about how they were kind of upset at

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a couple of players that didn't make a class yet.

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a month ago, and football players I'm talking about, Yeah,

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when Aj and Robert had the same class and they

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flew in from Ames or love It the night before,

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but they were still up the next morning in class,

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and so yeah, I guess it's what the coach or

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the administration or athletic director stresses, the importance of class

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and that education. And hey, Jay doesn't have to do that.

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I mean, he's set, dude, we all know that. But

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the fact that he was still there and Robert Wright

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was still there in class after getting at at two

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or three in the morning from wherever they were playing

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that night, it's yeah, it's but yeah, it's it's a mess, dude,

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and it's too bad.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Hey, there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 3: Like I will say this much this, let me give you.

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Speaker 2: A little, uh, a little positivity here because we are

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going into some negative talk here. The fact that Indiana

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won the National championship one of the worst teams in

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college football history tells you everything. You need to know

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about where we're at in the college football landscape.

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Speaker 3: In NIL.

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Speaker 2: The NIL transfer portal era has allowed teams like b

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YU right, teams like Indiana to kind of elevate themselves.

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So I think not all is bad, not all is

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wrong in the world, you know what I mean, There's

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some good things as well. Steve Klemens, Ladies and gentlemen, Steve,

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we gotta let you go. Always a pleasure, always a

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blessing talking ball with you. We'll catch up with you

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again soon. But thanks for hopping on to talk some

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camp Kalani and college.

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Speaker 4: Football sounds good. I have a good, good week, buddy, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, appreciate you, Steve Klemis, Ladies and gentlemen.

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