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Our guest today is Tricia McLachlan, Department of Homeland Security
Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs. As you can well imagine,
Tricia has been quite busy this week and over the
last several months in the Trump administration and dealing with
I don't know of a more important area to deal with,
and that is homeland security after four years of an
invasion of this country by a massive amount of illegal immigrants. Tricia,
thank you so much for joining us on this edition
of the Federalist Radio Hour.
Speaker 2: No, it's an honor. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. You have been working overtime, obviously, and that's what
the job entails for the most part, no matter what.
But these are crazy times. What's the latest at this
point on the as the accomplist media likes to call it,
the civil unrest in Los Angeles, which we know are
riots from anti ice officials who have made the job
of federal law enforcement extremely difficult, to say the least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, extremely difficult, is right. I mean, we've had writers
throw molotov cock tails at our ice enforcement officers. They've
thrown and pummeled our officers with rocks, They've slit fires,
they've been burning American flags, taunting them, threatening them. We've
had them being other weapons being used against them. So
any of these politicians who are trying to force feed
down the throats of the American people that and anyway
these riots are peaceful or just lying straight to the
American people's faces. As a lot of listeners probably heard
last night, Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles, implemented
a curfew. So I think that things are a little
bit more steady, But we are bracing ourselves for the
sixth day of these riots. We're seeing that they're starting
to spread in New York and Chicago and other of
these sanctuary cities. But the American people who should know,
and rioters should know, and these politicians who back them
should know enforcement arrests are not going to slow down.
They will only ramp up. We're not going to be
intimidated and we're not going to be impeded by these
by these violent rioters. Just in the last seventy two hours,
we've arrested off the streets of Los Angeles drug traffickers,
multiple gang members, child molesters, convicted rapists, convicted murders. These
are criminals we were getting off of the streets. And
like I said, we will not be deterred. This is
only going to make us ramp up more.
Speaker 1: There are so many cases that we could point to,
but I think of a guy that you had picked up,
an illegal immigrant from Vietnam who was involved in shooting
up a I believe it was a graduation party. Multiple
people were killed. These are the sorts of people that
you're getting off the street. Why do you think there
is so much resistance from the Democratic Party and from
the usual suspects in the accomplice media, to ice to
the Department of Homeland Security trying to protect the homeland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, You're exactly right. It was a Vietnamese national.
He was shooting at thirty high schoolers. Actually, it was
a high school graduation. He was asked to leave and
he began shooting and killed multiple people. That's one of
the individuals who we arrested. Actually, just yesterday we arrested
another illegal immigrant who was part of these riots, who
was throwing molotov cocktails at our ice enforcement agents. He's
been charged with attempted murder, but this wasn't his first
run in with law enforcement. Of course, he was here
illegally from Mexico, but as well, he was arrested last
year for a dui as well as grand larceny. So
he should not be on American streets and it's insane
that he's been allowed to run around Los Angeles with
impunity under Gavin Newsom. In Karen Bass, but answer your question, Matt,
I think that right now Democrats are desperate for a message.
I don't. I think that they're still grappling with the
last election. They're so so drink the kool aid that
open border policies is the only humane policy that there is,
which is what we've seen. Of course, that is the
opposite of humane. It leads to, of course, massive amount
of crime in American communities, fetanyl killing over one hundred
thousand Americans a year. And also, of course the human
trafficking aspect is just despicable. You know, under Biden and
Harris there are three hundred thousand children who are lost
migrandchildren lost and often so so many times exploited. In
this administration with HHS and RFK and Secretary Nome are
working so hard to unify these children with safeguardians, but
it has been a heck of a task. I think
the bottom line is that these people have a degree
of trumped arrangement syndrome. Anything that this administration does, they're
opposed to. Of course, we didn't see such opposition when
Barack Obama was Deporter in chief, as we've heard before,
So I think it is just a truly allergic reaction
to this administration's policies, and it's putting American citizens in
peril and making our streets far more dangerous.
Speaker 1: Man, well, I can tell you what you've had to
explain so many times, the things that should not have
to be explained so many times. You can hear it
in your voice. I mean, you've got a tired voice
right there, and I feel bad.
Speaker 2: I'm a little horse Madam'm not going to lie to
you if we're working hardier at DHS, so I will.
That's to your listeners because no a fun voice to listen.
Speaker 1: To you right now, No no apologies necessary. In fact,
I think our listeners would agree, we're very grateful that
you are taking the time to explain what is going
on on the streets of Los Angeles and elsewhere across
these sanctuary cities so called in America today to try
to keep the homeland safe. But it is it's got
to be taxing to have to say, for instance, you know,
I've seen several interviews with you where you say, this
guy is not a Maryland man. Okay, he is a
criminal who has done terrible, terrible things. You've spent so long,
and the facts of the case of Abrego Garcia, in
the case of the so called Maryland man, couldn't be
any more clear. Yet here you are having to explain
over and over again why DHS is doing what it's
doing in getting the worst of the worst illegal immigrants
off the streets of America.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought the case of Kilmar Abrigo Garcia was
just absolutely remarked, Well, this is a man from Al Salvador,
this is a man who Prince George's county, Maryland's gang unit,
which by no means is any red haven. This is,
you know, a deep blue county. They were saying. Kilmer
A Brigo Garcia is a known member of MS thirteen
and he was arrested in twenty nineteen. He was arrested
wearing MS thirteen garb with other members of MS thirteen.
Flash forward to twenty twenty one when he was arrested
now on that infamous traffic stop where he was driving
from Texas to Maryland through Tennessee in a three day
journey with eight other people in the car with not
a single piece of luggage, which is textbook human trafficking.
And then of course his own wife's written testimony that
he beat her, he choked her, he would threaten their
children and locked them that locked the children away inhumanely.
In the end, the media doing such the bidding of him,
calling him the innocent Maryland Father. I mean, how many
commentators I would listen to on different networks saying this
is a man that's part of the fabric of the
Maryland community and they would gladly invite him over for dinner.
And then this indictment coming out and it's showing that
this is a man who his full time job was
human trafficking, that he would abused the women under his control,
that he would solicit child pornography. Truly, this is an
individual not only who's in this country illegally, but is
scum of the earth. And I think the Democrats showed
us and the media showed us exactly who they are.
That they didn't care about the facts. They didn't care
about the victims of Kilmar Abrego Garcia. All they cared
about was their narrative and sticking to it.
Speaker 1: Kudos to my former colleagues at the Tennessee Star. They
broke a lot of that information about Kilmar Abrego Garcia
and the trafficking, and the amazing circumstance is surrounding it.
That you had the Biden administration Department of Justice telling
the law enforcement officials in Tennessee that picked up this
guy on allegations of human trafficking to stand down. And
I think, Tricia, that's representative of the mess that you
folks are dealing with. I mean, it's a mess by
any measure, But to have a former administration so abusing
the laws of this land, the very security based laws
of this land. I don't even know where do you
begin to deal with the mess that the Biden administration made.
Speaker 2: I mean, you make such good points, Matt, and I
think you know, we talk so much about how Biden
and Harris broke the border, but something we talk less
about is how they broke the legal imtegration system. We
look at these programs like CHNV, which is Cuba Haiti,
Nicaragua Venezuela, which was a parole program, and that was
a scheme by the Biden administration twenty twenty one. They
set it up really to let in five hundred thousand,
half a million people who are very poorly vetted. I
mean what they did, Matt, is like legalizing murder and
saying you solved violent crime. Well, no, you just legalized
illegal immigration with a robber stamp and you let these
people who don't we don't even know who they are
into this country. And that's everything we're trying to unwind.
And it's difficult, and especially with this historic number of injunctions.
I mean, we've never this administration. We knew going in
we would be facing activist judges, no question, and I
think that that's why we have used so many of
the legal authorities that Congress has given us and executive
orders under the president. But it is staggering to see
really that the fact that they don't want to get
these terrorists, they don't want to get these gang members
off of US oil. In fact, they're trying to bring
them back. We saw that a couple of weeks ago
with a deportation flight to South Sudan where there were
eight individuals who are all all had final deportation orders,
that all were convicted of a heinous crime, whether it
be a rape of a disabled person or murder or rape,
I mean, really bad people. In the fact that there
was a distract judge out of Massachusetts who said that
they have to come back for no reason is it's
just stunning.
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Speaker 1: To the Ambrago Garcia situation. Again it is stunning. And
again this is a guy who I think a lot
of folks believe should be in an l. Salvador prison today.
He's what is his status? He's coming back or he
is back? Do you do you does? How does DHS
feel about that decision to bring him back. Obviously he
should be facing the crimes that he committed in this country.
But there I think there is a sense that the
feeling that these rogue judges have scored a major victory,
and of course the left is lapping all of that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on that front, I mean he should come
back and face justice. I hope we hear from his
victory the victims of human trafficking and other people who
he's victimized, because that's the story that the media refuses
to tell about these criminal legal aliens, is that these
are not victimless crimes, and they're American citizens whose lives
have often been chattered. As far as he will face
a jury and he will serve time here in the
United States, but there is no question his last stop
is Nel Salvad or he will not be on us soil.
We should not be spending further US taxpayer dollars to
keep him walked up longer than we have to.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how much do you think
the Supreme Court plays into the disorder that we're seeing
in Los Angeles today? And you just have a feeling
that we've seen this movie before. We're about to see
the sequel from the Black Lives Matter disorder, chaos and
quite frankly insurrections that occurred in twenty twenty. It's going
to be rit large once again in twenty twenty five
already has. But the Supreme Court, we know, wheels of
justice turned slowly. How much responsibility does the High Court
have in all of this by in essence countenancing what
appears to me to be overstepping, overreaching by lower courts
in this country.
Speaker 2: Well, you're exactly right. Federal district district court judges should
not be able to dictate the national security and foreign
policy of the United States of America. That's just lunacy.
And I think President Trump, he's been pretty clear that
he wants to see Chief Roberts, Chief Justice Roberts step
in more and be more vocal, especially when there's just
such activism from the bench. I think this summer, especially
these cases in Los Angeles, we do see these rioters
and we do see these politicians who are backing them
test us. And I think that is also a test
of the Supreme Court is how far are they going
to let this? How far are they going to let
this go? And God forbid there is bloodshed because of
these riots.
Speaker 1: Well, it appears that we've already seen too many law
enforcement officials hurt injured. Things could have already been a
lot worse. Things could very well get a lot worse.
We are starting to see officials in Los Angeles actually
try to seriously deal with these riots. And one could
build this as an insurrection and attack as well, you know,
on federal law and federal officials and federal buildings. What
do you think of the response by Mayor Bass and
of course the ever politicking Governor Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's absolutely been a train wreck. And to
your point about insurrection, I mean it's hard to not
use that word when you're seeing American flags being burned
in the streets as they hoist up for the writer's
hoystop foreign flags. But I will say I think that
this is a natural escalation. We've seen for weeks now.
I mean, starting with Tim Walls at a commencement ceremony
calling ICE enforcement officers, likening them to the Gestapo, likening
them to Nazis. We saw that further from AOC. We've
seen that from Mayor Karen Bass also likening them to Nazis.
Mayri wou out of Boston. If you give these radical rioters,
these violent activists, a permission slip, which is exactly what
they're doing by calling our law enforcements Nazis, this is
your were naturally going to see these people attack law
enforcement and that's exactly what's coming to fruition. So I
mean it is completely in co If Mara Bas and
Governor Newsom told these rioters to stand down, we would
not be seeing the protests we are in the streets.
But they've continued to give them a free pass by
saying we'll stand with these protesters until ICE raids stop. Well,
ICE rates are not stopping. We will continue to arrest
illegal immigrants. Like I said before, we will only ramp up. Matt,
you and I have rattled off just a few of
these despicable human beings that we've arrested in the last
seventy two hours in Los Angeles. The fact that Mara
Bass and Gavin Newsom are giving these criminal legal aliens
cover and treating them as you know, legal immigrants who
are innocents, It's despicable.
Speaker 1: It is despicable. And what they are communicating to the
country and to the rioters in particular, is unless you
allow us to continue to break the law, we will
continue to break the law exactly. That is a no
win situation for any community that values public safety. And
if Karen Bass valued public safety, she would have responded
much quicker. But instead it's the incriminations about the Trump
administration and the DHS and ICE inflaming the rioters. What
do you think when they make these kinds of things
that most Americans look at as they watch the car,
as the squad car is on fire and the fireworks
exploding in the faces of law enforcement officials, and they say,
are you kidding? What do you think when they when
they say these.
Speaker 2: Things, it is so insulting to the intelligence of Americans.
Do they think we're stupid? They're telling us, don't believe
you're lying? Eyes We saw what happened on Friday where
the federal building that ICE is housed in, it was
surrounded by more than one thousand protesters. Our ICE enforcement
officers were massively outnumbered. They were getting rocks pummeled at them,
there were fires being lit, they were being attacked, buildings defaced.
I think a lot of listeners probably saw their public
public vehicles, their tires being slashed, them having graffiti that
said death to America, Kill Ice. This was absolutely anarchy
and chaos on Friday before President Trump called in the
National Guard, and thank god he did because he had
the foresight. He saw what happened in twenty twenty and said,
we're not going to watch that movie again. We need calm,
we need to restore in law and order. And that's
just something that Mayor Baths and Governor Gavin Newsom weren't
willing to do. Because ICE called as soon as they
were starting to be out numbered and swarmed by these rioters.
They called the LAPD. The LAPD took more than two
hours to respond. That's when we knew we had to
call in for further resources or things we're going to
get massively out of hand.
Speaker 1: Indeed, and then you have the folks at ABC News
and NBC and CBS and CNN, the New York Times,
the Washington Post asking you why do the ice officers
wear masks? Isn't that Isn't that just trying to hide
them from all of these silly bits of spun logic
that they have here. Meanwhile, you can see the masked villains,
the masked criminals, the masked rioters in the streets of
Los Angeles. Once again, how do you go up against
this when the narrative, the twisted narrative from the accomplice media,
is so set.
Speaker 2: I was just on NPR yesterday and then they challenged
me on this, and I'm thinking, since when does NPR
contesting anybody wearing masks? They're telling everybody to mask up,
But I mean, yeah, exactly. Our ice enforcement officers are
facing a four hundred and thirteen percent increase in assaults
against them. We're seeing in recent days. Their families are
being docksed, their personal information, personal addresses being put all
over online from violent activists who want them targeted. Most
of a number of our ice enforcement officers are in
homeland security investigations, and oftentimes they work undercover to make
these targets, So they're targeting cartel members, highly sophisticated gangs
and criminal rings. So for them to be docks, or
for their faces not to be covered in their identity
to be revealed is like giving on a silver platter
intelligence to these criminal rings and these violent gangs. To
in any way compare them to these violent rotesters who
they wear a mask to shield their identity so that
they are not held accountable for their destruction and their violence.
To compare a heroic law enforcement officer to a rioter
is just disgusting. And if people are too obtuse to
figure that one out, then it's intentional.
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Speaker 1: I'd here quickly from yours, truly longtime journalists. Not a
cent to NPR, not a cent of my taxpayer dollars,
not a cent of anybody's taxpayer dollars to National Public
Radio and PBS and the like. Let's talk about the
days ahead. You mentioned. You know, we are at potentially
the beginning of a long, hot summer, as we saw
during the BLM riots and insurrections of twenty twenty. These
are very planned, coordinated events. And despite what the folks
in the accomplice media and their peals and the Marxist
left want us to know or see or believe, these
are coordinated efforts, well funded, and they involve a very
select group of organizations. How much do the nngos and
the activist groups funded by the George Soros's and, as
we reported at The Federalist Today, the Ford Foundation, how
much are they playing into this and making your job
of enforcement that much more difficult.
Speaker 2: Well to your point, Matt, these are highly sophisticated and
financially backed, potentially by foreign adversaries and other organizations that
do not have America's best interest by any means in mind.
We're certainly looking at the financial backing. We actively are
investigating this with the IRS and with the FBI. It's
something that we have been very honed in on as
far as the NGOs go. Actually, we just found that
one of the groups that's backing this was had been
funded by DHS itself Homeland Security until March. We found that,
and we had canceled it back in March. But I
mean that, I mean kudos to Doge and the rest
of this administration that very much is focused getting rid
of this waste, fraud, and abuse that's in this government,
because it's staggering what has been found.
Speaker 1: That it is just a few more minutes and we'll
give you your voice arrest. Okay, But just a couple
of final follow up questions. Do you believe that anybody
in the Biden administration, particularly the Biden DHS I think
of the impeachment of Alejandro Majorcis and the effort to
hold him accountable. Of course it was never going to
happen with Democrats controlling the Senate, there was the attempt.
But will any of these people who uh not only
allowed this invasion to happen, facilitated this invasion. Will they
ever be held accountable?
Speaker 2: No, Matt, I hope so, and I think so. I
mean we've we've found so much fraud. I mean, at
the beginning of this administration, we were looking at arrest numbers
and for Biden's administer, they were remarkably high. And what
we found was actually they were counting individuals that they
were letting into the interior of our country as arrest
They were just counting people who they processed as arrests.
So we've found the completely exploited the system, and we
do need to there needs to be accountability. Is it's
unjust and it's unjust to the American DAX payer what
has happened and the incompetence, and I think the intentional
degradation of our immigration system that was at the hands
of these people.
Speaker 1: Indeed, final question, CBS you go pull out this week
shows that Americans are with the president. Americans are with
DHS and our federal law enforcement officials to apprehend particularly
violent illegal immigrants, but also people who broke the law
to get here in the first place, and the port
illegal immigrants. I think fifty four percent of Americans support
the policies of the president on this front. But as
they continue to see the chaos, do you believe Americans
will remain with the administration on this very important issue.
Speaker 2: I think that the American people will be more with
us than they were even before, because what is Karen
Bass fighting for? What is Gavin Newsom fighting for? They're
fighting for these criminal, illegal aliens to stay in their communities,
to stay in our country. And I have to plug
this mat because I think it's so important. It is
such a grave disservice that Governor Newsom and Karen Bass
have done to even the illegal aliens in their community.
Because the administration has so generously offered those in this
country illegally one thousand dollars in a free flight home.
That preserves these aliens the option potentially to come back
the legal right way. But if they do not leave now,
they don't self deport we will find them, we will
arrest them, and we will deport them. That should be
the message that Karen Bass and Governor Newsom are giving
these illegal immigrants, and it's a total disservice that they're
not well.
Speaker 1: They're not of course because for a long time, the
Democratic Party has looked at illegal immigrants as their constituency
ultimately to vote and to gain them power and to
consolidate their powers. So they're going to do what they're
going to do in the name of politics. You have
to do what you have to do in the name
of homeland security, and that's what you're doing every day.
You can tell it's in your voice.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Matt. I'm grateful to you for sharing the
truth and getting the facts out there.
Speaker 1: Indeed, thanks to my guest today, a Tricia McLaughlan, Department
of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, you've been
listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm
Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be
back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom,
anxious for the friend. I heard the fame voice the reason,
and then it faded away.
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