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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist

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Our guest today is Tricia McLachlan, Department of Homeland Security

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Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs. As you can well imagine,

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Tricia has been quite busy this week and over the

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last several months in the Trump administration and dealing with

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I don't know of a more important area to deal with,

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and that is homeland security after four years of an

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invasion of this country by a massive amount of illegal immigrants. Tricia,

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thank you so much for joining us on this edition

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of the Federalist Radio Hour.

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Speaker 2: No, it's an honor. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. You have been working overtime, obviously, and that's what

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the job entails for the most part, no matter what.

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But these are crazy times. What's the latest at this

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point on the as the accomplist media likes to call it,

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the civil unrest in Los Angeles, which we know are

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riots from anti ice officials who have made the job

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of federal law enforcement extremely difficult, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, extremely difficult, is right. I mean, we've had writers

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throw molotov cock tails at our ice enforcement officers. They've

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thrown and pummeled our officers with rocks, They've slit fires,

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they've been burning American flags, taunting them, threatening them. We've

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had them being other weapons being used against them. So

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any of these politicians who are trying to force feed

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down the throats of the American people that and anyway

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these riots are peaceful or just lying straight to the

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American people's faces. As a lot of listeners probably heard

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last night, Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles, implemented

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a curfew. So I think that things are a little

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bit more steady, But we are bracing ourselves for the

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sixth day of these riots. We're seeing that they're starting

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to spread in New York and Chicago and other of

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these sanctuary cities. But the American people who should know,

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and rioters should know, and these politicians who back them

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should know enforcement arrests are not going to slow down.

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They will only ramp up. We're not going to be

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intimidated and we're not going to be impeded by these

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by these violent rioters. Just in the last seventy two hours,

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we've arrested off the streets of Los Angeles drug traffickers,

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multiple gang members, child molesters, convicted rapists, convicted murders. These

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are criminals we were getting off of the streets. And

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like I said, we will not be deterred. This is

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only going to make us ramp up more.

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Speaker 1: There are so many cases that we could point to,

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but I think of a guy that you had picked up,

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an illegal immigrant from Vietnam who was involved in shooting

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up a I believe it was a graduation party. Multiple

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people were killed. These are the sorts of people that

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you're getting off the street. Why do you think there

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is so much resistance from the Democratic Party and from

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the usual suspects in the accomplice media, to ice to

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the Department of Homeland Security trying to protect the homeland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, You're exactly right. It was a Vietnamese national.

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He was shooting at thirty high schoolers. Actually, it was

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a high school graduation. He was asked to leave and

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he began shooting and killed multiple people. That's one of

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the individuals who we arrested. Actually, just yesterday we arrested

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another illegal immigrant who was part of these riots, who

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was throwing molotov cocktails at our ice enforcement agents. He's

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been charged with attempted murder, but this wasn't his first

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run in with law enforcement. Of course, he was here

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illegally from Mexico, but as well, he was arrested last

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year for a dui as well as grand larceny. So

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he should not be on American streets and it's insane

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that he's been allowed to run around Los Angeles with

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impunity under Gavin Newsom. In Karen Bass, but answer your question, Matt,

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I think that right now Democrats are desperate for a message.

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last election. They're so so drink the kool aid that

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open border policies is the only humane policy that there is,

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which is what we've seen. Of course, that is the

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opposite of humane. It leads to, of course, massive amount

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of crime in American communities, fetanyl killing over one hundred

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thousand Americans a year. And also, of course the human

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trafficking aspect is just despicable. You know, under Biden and

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Harris there are three hundred thousand children who are lost

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migrandchildren lost and often so so many times exploited. In

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this administration with HHS and RFK and Secretary Nome are

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working so hard to unify these children with safeguardians, but

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it has been a heck of a task. I think

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the bottom line is that these people have a degree

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of trumped arrangement syndrome. Anything that this administration does, they're

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opposed to. Of course, we didn't see such opposition when

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Barack Obama was Deporter in chief, as we've heard before,

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to this administration's policies, and it's putting American citizens in

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peril and making our streets far more dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Man, well, I can tell you what you've had to

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explain so many times, the things that should not have

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to be explained so many times. You can hear it

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in your voice. I mean, you've got a tired voice

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right there, and I feel bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little horse Madam'm not going to lie to

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you if we're working hardier at DHS, so I will.

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Speaker 1: To you right now, No no apologies necessary. In fact,

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I think our listeners would agree, we're very grateful that

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you are taking the time to explain what is going

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on on the streets of Los Angeles and elsewhere across

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these sanctuary cities so called in America today to try

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to keep the homeland safe. But it is it's got

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to be taxing to have to say, for instance, you know,

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guy is not a Maryland man. Okay, he is a

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criminal who has done terrible, terrible things. You've spent so long,

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and the facts of the case of Abrego Garcia, in

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the case of the so called Maryland man, couldn't be

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any more clear. Yet here you are having to explain

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over and over again why DHS is doing what it's

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doing in getting the worst of the worst illegal immigrants

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off the streets of America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought the case of Kilmar Abrigo Garcia was

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just absolutely remarked, Well, this is a man from Al Salvador,

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this is a man who Prince George's county, Maryland's gang unit,

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which by no means is any red haven. This is,

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you know, a deep blue county. They were saying. Kilmer

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A Brigo Garcia is a known member of MS thirteen

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and he was arrested in twenty nineteen. He was arrested

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wearing MS thirteen garb with other members of MS thirteen.

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Flash forward to twenty twenty one when he was arrested

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now on that infamous traffic stop where he was driving

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from Texas to Maryland through Tennessee in a three day

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journey with eight other people in the car with not

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a single piece of luggage, which is textbook human trafficking.

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And then of course his own wife's written testimony that

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he beat her, he choked her, he would threaten their

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children and locked them that locked the children away inhumanely.

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In the end, the media doing such the bidding of him,

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calling him the innocent Maryland Father. I mean, how many

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commentators I would listen to on different networks saying this

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Maryland community and they would gladly invite him over for dinner.

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this is a man who his full time job was

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human trafficking, that he would abused the women under his control,

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that he would solicit child pornography. Truly, this is an

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individual not only who's in this country illegally, but is

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scum of the earth. And I think the Democrats showed

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us and the media showed us exactly who they are.

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That they didn't care about the facts. They didn't care

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about the victims of Kilmar Abrego Garcia. All they cared

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about was their narrative and sticking to it.

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Speaker 1: Kudos to my former colleagues at the Tennessee Star. They

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broke a lot of that information about Kilmar Abrego Garcia

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and the trafficking, and the amazing circumstance is surrounding it.

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That you had the Biden administration Department of Justice telling

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the law enforcement officials in Tennessee that picked up this

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guy on allegations of human trafficking to stand down. And

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folks are dealing with. I mean, it's a mess by

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any measure, But to have a former administration so abusing

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the laws of this land, the very security based laws

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of this land. I don't even know where do you

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begin to deal with the mess that the Biden administration made.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you make such good points, Matt, and I

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think you know, we talk so much about how Biden

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and Harris broke the border, but something we talk less

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about is how they broke the legal imtegration system. We

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look at these programs like CHNV, which is Cuba Haiti,

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Nicaragua Venezuela, which was a parole program, and that was

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a scheme by the Biden administration twenty twenty one. They

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set it up really to let in five hundred thousand,

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half a million people who are very poorly vetted. I

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mean what they did, Matt, is like legalizing murder and

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saying you solved violent crime. Well, no, you just legalized

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illegal immigration with a robber stamp and you let these

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people who don't we don't even know who they are

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into this country. And that's everything we're trying to unwind.

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I mean, we've never this administration. We knew going in

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we would be facing activist judges, no question, and I

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the legal authorities that Congress has given us and executive

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orders under the president. But it is staggering to see

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really that the fact that they don't want to get

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these terrorists, they don't want to get these gang members

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off of US oil. In fact, they're trying to bring

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them back. We saw that a couple of weeks ago

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with a deportation flight to South Sudan where there were

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eight individuals who are all all had final deportation orders,

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that all were convicted of a heinous crime, whether it

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I mean, really bad people. In the fact that there

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was a distract judge out of Massachusetts who said that

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they have to come back for no reason is it's

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Speaker 1: To the Ambrago Garcia situation. Again it is stunning. And

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again this is a guy who I think a lot

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of folks believe should be in an l. Salvador prison today.

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He's what is his status? He's coming back or he

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is back? Do you do you does? How does DHS

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feel about that decision to bring him back. Obviously he

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should be facing the crimes that he committed in this country.

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feeling that these rogue judges have scored a major victory,

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and of course the left is lapping all of that up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and on that front, I mean he should come

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back and face justice. I hope we hear from his

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victory the victims of human trafficking and other people who

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he's victimized, because that's the story that the media refuses

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to tell about these criminal legal aliens, is that these

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are not victimless crimes, and they're American citizens whose lives

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have often been chattered. As far as he will face

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a jury and he will serve time here in the

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United States, but there is no question his last stop

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is Nel Salvad or he will not be on us soil.

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We should not be spending further US taxpayer dollars to

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how much do you think

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the Supreme Court plays into the disorder that we're seeing

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in Los Angeles today? And you just have a feeling

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that we've seen this movie before. We're about to see

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the sequel from the Black Lives Matter disorder, chaos and

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quite frankly insurrections that occurred in twenty twenty. It's going

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to be rit large once again in twenty twenty five

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already has. But the Supreme Court, we know, wheels of

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justice turned slowly. How much responsibility does the High Court

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Speaker 2: Well, you're exactly right. Federal district district court judges should

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he wants to see Chief Roberts, Chief Justice Roberts step

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in more and be more vocal, especially when there's just

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such activism from the bench. I think this summer, especially

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these cases in Los Angeles, we do see these rioters

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and we do see these politicians who are backing them

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test us. And I think that is also a test

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of the Supreme Court is how far are they going

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to let this? How far are they going to let

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this go? And God forbid there is bloodshed because of

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Speaker 1: Well, it appears that we've already seen too many law

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enforcement officials hurt injured. Things could have already been a

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lot worse. Things could very well get a lot worse.

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try to seriously deal with these riots. And one could

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build this as an insurrection and attack as well, you know,

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on federal law and federal officials and federal buildings. What

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do you think of the response by Mayor Bass and

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of course the ever politicking Governor Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's absolutely been a train wreck. And to

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your point about insurrection, I mean it's hard to not

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use that word when you're seeing American flags being burned

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in the streets as they hoist up for the writer's

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hoystop foreign flags. But I will say I think that

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this is a natural escalation. We've seen for weeks now.

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I mean, starting with Tim Walls at a commencement ceremony

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calling ICE enforcement officers, likening them to the Gestapo, likening

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them to Nazis. We saw that further from AOC. We've

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seen that from Mayor Karen Bass also likening them to Nazis.

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Mayri wou out of Boston. If you give these radical rioters,

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these violent activists, a permission slip, which is exactly what

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they're doing by calling our law enforcements Nazis, this is

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your were naturally going to see these people attack law

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enforcement and that's exactly what's coming to fruition. So I

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mean it is completely in co If Mara Bas and

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Governor Newsom told these rioters to stand down, we would

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not be seeing the protests we are in the streets.

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But they've continued to give them a free pass by

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saying we'll stand with these protesters until ICE raids stop. Well,

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ICE rates are not stopping. We will continue to arrest

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illegal immigrants. Like I said before, we will only ramp up. Matt,

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you and I have rattled off just a few of

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these despicable human beings that we've arrested in the last

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seventy two hours in Los Angeles. The fact that Mara

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Bass and Gavin Newsom are giving these criminal legal aliens

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cover and treating them as you know, legal immigrants who

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are innocents, It's despicable.

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Speaker 1: It is despicable. And what they are communicating to the

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country and to the rioters in particular, is unless you

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allow us to continue to break the law, we will

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continue to break the law exactly. That is a no

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win situation for any community that values public safety. And

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if Karen Bass valued public safety, she would have responded

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much quicker. But instead it's the incriminations about the Trump

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administration and the DHS and ICE inflaming the rioters. What

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do you think when they make these kinds of things

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that most Americans look at as they watch the car,

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as the squad car is on fire and the fireworks

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exploding in the faces of law enforcement officials, and they say,

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are you kidding? What do you think when they when

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they say these.

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Speaker 2: Things, it is so insulting to the intelligence of Americans.

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Do they think we're stupid? They're telling us, don't believe

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you're lying? Eyes We saw what happened on Friday where

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the federal building that ICE is housed in, it was

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surrounded by more than one thousand protesters. Our ICE enforcement

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officers were massively outnumbered. They were getting rocks pummeled at them,

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there were fires being lit, they were being attacked, buildings defaced.

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I think a lot of listeners probably saw their public

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public vehicles, their tires being slashed, them having graffiti that

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said death to America, Kill Ice. This was absolutely anarchy

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and chaos on Friday before President Trump called in the

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National Guard, and thank god he did because he had

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the foresight. He saw what happened in twenty twenty and said,

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we're not going to watch that movie again. We need calm,

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we need to restore in law and order. And that's

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just something that Mayor Baths and Governor Gavin Newsom weren't

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willing to do. Because ICE called as soon as they

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were starting to be out numbered and swarmed by these rioters.

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They called the LAPD. The LAPD took more than two

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hours to respond. That's when we knew we had to

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call in for further resources or things we're going to

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get massively out of hand.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, and then you have the folks at ABC News

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and NBC and CBS and CNN, the New York Times,

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the Washington Post asking you why do the ice officers

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wear masks? Isn't that Isn't that just trying to hide

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them from all of these silly bits of spun logic

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that they have here. Meanwhile, you can see the masked villains,

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the masked criminals, the masked rioters in the streets of

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Los Angeles. Once again, how do you go up against

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this when the narrative, the twisted narrative from the accomplice media,

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is so set.

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Speaker 2: I was just on NPR yesterday and then they challenged

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me on this, and I'm thinking, since when does NPR

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contesting anybody wearing masks? They're telling everybody to mask up,

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facing a four hundred and thirteen percent increase in assaults

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against them. We're seeing in recent days. Their families are

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being docksed, their personal information, personal addresses being put all

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over online from violent activists who want them targeted. Most

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of a number of our ice enforcement officers are in

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homeland security investigations, and oftentimes they work undercover to make

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these targets, So they're targeting cartel members, highly sophisticated gangs

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and criminal rings. So for them to be docks, or

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for their faces not to be covered in their identity

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to be revealed is like giving on a silver platter

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intelligence to these criminal rings and these violent gangs. To

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in any way compare them to these violent rotesters who

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they wear a mask to shield their identity so that

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they are not held accountable for their destruction and their violence.

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is just disgusting. And if people are too obtuse to

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figure that one out, then it's intentional.

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Speaker 4: Was this whole dough thing the best idea? The watch

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and how it affects your wallet. After trying to save

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the government trillions of dollars in spending, Congress is voting

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to only keep nine billion dollars of the DOGE cuts.

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Are they totally insulting our intelligence? Whether it's happening in

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DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 1: Be informed.

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Speaker 4: Check out the watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with

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Speaker 1: I'd here quickly from yours, truly longtime journalists. Not a

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cent to NPR, not a cent of my taxpayer dollars,

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not a cent of anybody's taxpayer dollars to National Public

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Radio and PBS and the like. Let's talk about the

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days ahead. You mentioned. You know, we are at potentially

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the beginning of a long, hot summer, as we saw

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during the BLM riots and insurrections of twenty twenty. These

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are very planned, coordinated events. And despite what the folks

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in the accomplice media and their peals and the Marxist

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left want us to know or see or believe, these

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are coordinated efforts, well funded, and they involve a very

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select group of organizations. How much do the nngos and

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the activist groups funded by the George Soros's and, as

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we reported at The Federalist Today, the Ford Foundation, how

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much are they playing into this and making your job

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of enforcement that much more difficult.

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Speaker 2: Well to your point, Matt, these are highly sophisticated and

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financially backed, potentially by foreign adversaries and other organizations that

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do not have America's best interest by any means in mind.

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We're certainly looking at the financial backing. We actively are

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investigating this with the IRS and with the FBI. It's

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something that we have been very honed in on as

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far as the NGOs go. Actually, we just found that

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one of the groups that's backing this was had been

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funded by DHS itself Homeland Security until March. We found that,

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and we had canceled it back in March. But I

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mean that, I mean kudos to Doge and the rest

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of this administration that very much is focused getting rid

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of this waste, fraud, and abuse that's in this government,

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because it's staggering what has been found.

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Speaker 1: That it is just a few more minutes and we'll

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give you your voice arrest. Okay, But just a couple

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of final follow up questions. Do you believe that anybody

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in the Biden administration, particularly the Biden DHS I think

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of the impeachment of Alejandro Majorcis and the effort to

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hold him accountable. Of course it was never going to

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happen with Democrats controlling the Senate, there was the attempt.

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But will any of these people who uh not only

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allowed this invasion to happen, facilitated this invasion. Will they

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ever be held accountable?

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Speaker 2: No, Matt, I hope so, and I think so. I

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mean we've we've found so much fraud. I mean, at

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the beginning of this administration, we were looking at arrest numbers

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and for Biden's administer, they were remarkably high. And what

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we found was actually they were counting individuals that they

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were letting into the interior of our country as arrest

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They were just counting people who they processed as arrests.

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So we've found the completely exploited the system, and we

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do need to there needs to be accountability. Is it's

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unjust and it's unjust to the American DAX payer what

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has happened and the incompetence, and I think the intentional

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degradation of our immigration system that was at the hands

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of these people.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, final question, CBS you go pull out this week

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shows that Americans are with the president. Americans are with

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DHS and our federal law enforcement officials to apprehend particularly

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violent illegal immigrants, but also people who broke the law

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to get here in the first place, and the port

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illegal immigrants. I think fifty four percent of Americans support

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the policies of the president on this front. But as

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they continue to see the chaos, do you believe Americans

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will remain with the administration on this very important issue.

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Speaker 2: I think that the American people will be more with

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us than they were even before, because what is Karen

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Bass fighting for? What is Gavin Newsom fighting for? They're

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fighting for these criminal, illegal aliens to stay in their communities,

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to stay in our country. And I have to plug

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this mat because I think it's so important. It is

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such a grave disservice that Governor Newsom and Karen Bass

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have done to even the illegal aliens in their community.

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Because the administration has so generously offered those in this

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country illegally one thousand dollars in a free flight home.

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That preserves these aliens the option potentially to come back

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the legal right way. But if they do not leave now,

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they don't self deport we will find them, we will

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arrest them, and we will deport them. That should be

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the message that Karen Bass and Governor Newsom are giving

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these illegal immigrants, and it's a total disservice that they're

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not well.

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Speaker 1: They're not of course because for a long time, the

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Democratic Party has looked at illegal immigrants as their constituency

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ultimately to vote and to gain them power and to

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consolidate their powers. So they're going to do what they're

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going to do in the name of politics. You have

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to do what you have to do in the name

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of homeland security, and that's what you're doing every day.

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You can tell it's in your voice.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Matt. I'm grateful to you for sharing the

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truth and getting the facts out there.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, thanks to my guest today, a Tricia McLaughlan, Department

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of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, you've been

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listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm

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Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be

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back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom,

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anxious for the friend. I heard the fame voice the reason,

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and then it faded away.

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Speaker 2: M HM.

