Speaker 1: It's night time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Easy
Speaker 1: Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, today was an interesting day, a great day for
Speaker 2: the stock market. I have no idea where the market's
Speaker 2: going to go tomorrow. I suspect that after today it
Speaker 2: might take a little bit of a breather. But over
Speaker 2: the weekend, the United States and China took a step
Speaker 2: reading now for the New York Times on Monday, to
Speaker 2: diffuse the trade war between the world's two largest economies,
Speaker 2: agreeing to temporarily reduce the punishing tariffs that they've imposed
Speaker 2: on each other basically gives them. A joint statement released
Speaker 2: earlier in the day, the United States and China said
Speaker 2: that suspend their respective terriffs for ninety days and continue
Speaker 2: negotiations they started this weekend. That was enough to jump
Speaker 2: to stock market by over a thousand points one sixty
Speaker 2: one points. The other markets were up as well. The
Speaker 2: S and P and the Nasdaq also surged today. So
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the S and P was up
Speaker 2: four percent and I was up over eleven hundred points.
Speaker 2: S and P and the Nasdaq and we're both up,
Speaker 2: And it was a great day if you're in the
Speaker 2: stock market. So the question now on this is I
Speaker 2: was watching I think it was ABC Nightly News, and
Speaker 2: they were essentially saying that Trump had backed down. Interesting
Speaker 2: spin to put on it. Maybe maybe I would have
Speaker 2: reported a little bit differently. It sound to me as
Speaker 2: if both the Trump administration and the Chinese Party, the
Speaker 2: Chinese communist government, realized that maybe the tariffs were not
Speaker 2: in the interest of either country, and Donald Trump shook
Speaker 2: things up a little bit. I don't know where we'll
Speaker 2: be a week from now. I don't know where would
Speaker 2: be a month from now. I know that when we
Speaker 2: were in mid April, if you go back about a month,
Speaker 2: I can tell you that we just I actually can
Speaker 2: pull it right up here for you if you want.
Speaker 2: Today we ended up at let's see, we ended up
Speaker 2: today at forty two four thirteen, So we were at
Speaker 2: forty two thousand, forty two thousand five hunt, you know
Speaker 2: whatever four thirteen was where we for a forty two
Speaker 2: ten today is where we ended up. My correct on
Speaker 2: that I just I don't want to misstate it here.
Speaker 2: I guess there was some after I was trading as well.
Speaker 2: When if you go back to I don't know, a
Speaker 2: month ago, well not even a month ago, if you
Speaker 2: go back to what's the data on that for twenty one,
Speaker 2: so today is the twelfth. If you go back three weeks,
Speaker 2: we were sitting under thirty eight thousand, so there's been
Speaker 2: a huge jump in the last three weeks. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're directly invested in the market or if
Speaker 2: you're indirectly. Most of us are indirectly invested in the market.
Speaker 2: If we have a pension plan, if we're a member
Speaker 2: of a labor union, our pension funds are invested in
Speaker 2: the stock market. Most people who have a certain age
Speaker 2: have a four to oh one ks. Today was a
Speaker 2: good day, There's no doubt about that. It was also
Speaker 2: a good day from the point of view of the
Speaker 2: release of the remaining hostage. Edin Alexander, has been held
Speaker 2: capped dive for nineteen months, looked remarkably well. I saw
Speaker 2: the video tonight of him being reunited with his family,
Speaker 2: with his mom and his dad. He looked. I'm sure
Speaker 2: that he had suffered greatly, but he truly looked the
Speaker 2: best of all the hostages who have been released. He looked.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say none the worse for wear,
Speaker 2: but he looked in pretty good shape. You wonder if,
Speaker 2: maybe as an American, if he was treated better than others.
Speaker 2: Alexander's family, according to NBC News, told NBC News that
Speaker 2: Trump had expressed the wish to meet with Alexander during
Speaker 2: the president's visit to Cutter later this week. I think
Speaker 2: the President actually is on his way there now, but
Speaker 2: added that the meeting would be subject to Alexander's wishes
Speaker 2: and his medical condition. Calling Alexander's release a very moving moment,
Speaker 2: Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement, the
Speaker 2: release was achieved thanks to our military pressure and the
Speaker 2: political pressure exerted by President Trump. Hamas confirmed the release
Speaker 2: earlier in the day, again this according to NBC News.
Speaker 2: Shortly after Alexander was freed, the militant group set in
Speaker 2: a news release that the move was part of the
Speaker 2: steps being taken to achieve ceasefire, opened the crossings and
Speaker 2: allow aid into the Gaza strip. Hamas now quoting, we
Speaker 2: urged the Trump administration to continue its efforts to end
Speaker 2: this brutal war. So it almost sounds as if the
Speaker 2: Trump administration is being credited by net Yahoo the Israeli
Speaker 2: government with exerting political pressure that resulted in the release
Speaker 2: of this American Israeli soldier. He's Israeli, so he's a
Speaker 2: member of the military. He was captured, he was nineteen
Speaker 2: years of age, and during these last nineteen months he's
Speaker 2: had two birthdays, so he's now twenty one, and Jimas
Speaker 2: we urged the Trump administration to continue its efforts to
Speaker 2: end this brutal war. It almost sounds as if this
Speaker 2: point is if Hamas is paying well a bit of
Speaker 2: a tribute to the Trump administration for trying to end
Speaker 2: this brutal war. It is interesting, It is interesting. I
Speaker 2: know that there's a lot of controversy around this offer
Speaker 2: of an airplane, which we'll get to, i'm sure probably tomorrow,
Speaker 2: see what people think about that. But at this moment,
Speaker 2: on this day, I'm not sure what day this is
Speaker 2: of the administration. Whether it's the one hundred and nineteenth
Speaker 2: or one hundred and twentieth, I'm not keeping track. This
Speaker 2: is a pretty good day for the Trump administration. There'll
Speaker 2: be good days, they'll be bad days, hopefully from their perspective,
Speaker 2: more good days than bad days. And again, on this day,
Speaker 2: at least, on this day, at least, the American stock
Speaker 2: market expressed some support in what he put in motion
Speaker 2: with Liberation Day. I'm not somebody who felt it was
Speaker 2: the smartest thing to do, but if it works out
Speaker 2: to the benefit of the country and the benefit of
Speaker 2: the world, I'll give him credit for it. And I'm
Speaker 2: wondering what you thought, what your thoughts are. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna open up phone lines. This is as close to
Speaker 2: open lines as I will come. I'd love to get
Speaker 2: your sense if you are a supporter of the president's
Speaker 2: policies and you'd like to take you know, not a
Speaker 2: victory lap, but certainly take credit for having supported him.
Speaker 2: If you're someone who's critical of his policies, I mean
Speaker 2: he had he will have a series of losses as well.
Speaker 2: Certainly he's still dealing with the courts on many of
Speaker 2: the immigration issues. But it's been an intense first four months.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's getting pretty close to four months now
Speaker 2: when you think about it. February March April, those months
Speaker 2: are done and we're now at the twelve It's been
Speaker 2: about four months. When you add it up, we're around
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty days. I just want to open
Speaker 2: up the phone lines and give you a chance to
Speaker 2: talk about it. The other big story tonight, obviously, is
Speaker 2: the injury to Jason Tatum. The Celtics have gone down
Speaker 2: three to one to the Knicks. I don't think any
Speaker 2: of us thought that after their performance on Sunday that
Speaker 2: they would lose tonight, And of course, no one could
Speaker 2: have ever anticipated that Jason Tatum apparently suffered a pretty
Speaker 2: painful and therefore probably serious injury. Don't want to speculate,
Speaker 2: but did not. Oh good six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about a pretty good day on Wall Street.
Speaker 2: Whether you're an investor or not, all of us have
Speaker 2: an interest in seeing the American economy doing well. I
Speaker 2: think love to have you join the conversation, wide open
Speaker 2: lines right now. Give us a call. Coming back on Nightside,
Speaker 2: it is Monday night, and it is a night in
Speaker 2: which things seem to be going in a pretty good direction,
Speaker 2: both in terms of peace. As an American who now
Speaker 2: is the head of the Catholic Church worldwide, it's it's
Speaker 2: been kind of an amazing week. Let's let's hope that
Speaker 2: that things continue in that direction. Back on Nightside right
Speaker 2: after this, it's Night Side.
Speaker 1: With Dan Ray Hey, Damn Boston's news radio. You're on
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: So feel free to join the conversation whatever your point is.
Speaker 2: We have talked obviously about the strategies of the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: and they have been very active in a number of fronts.
Speaker 2: Whether you want to talk about what's going on in Ukraine,
Speaker 2: in Russia, the Russian Ukrainian War, and I do emphasize
Speaker 2: the Russia War, not the Ukrainian War, but the Russia,
Speaker 2: the war by Russia on Ukraine. What's going on in
Speaker 2: the Middle East very interesting, what is going on within
Speaker 2: the stock market, what's going on with immigration. There's a
Speaker 2: lot to talk about, but let's start it off with
Speaker 2: Jack in Newton. Hey, Jack, appreciate your calling in love
Speaker 2: to get your take on what's going on. I know
Speaker 2: you're not a huge Trump supporter, so go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I was critical, been critical of mister Trump, but
Speaker 3: I've also believed not to applied for a position with them.
Speaker 3: That's special envoy. I guess what I didn't get it? Oh, Jack,
Speaker 3: he doesn't want a progressive even a progressive side.
Speaker 2: And well, let me ask you this, did you actually
Speaker 2: get a letter back acknowledging. Are you telling me that
Speaker 2: when the mail didn't come you assumed that you didn't
Speaker 2: get it or was someone else appointed?
Speaker 3: Well, the first time I sent it in, I got
Speaker 3: a thing called address rejected or address unknown or something. No,
Speaker 3: I got a green card. It was signed by somebody
Speaker 3: at the White House or somebody to be a Greek card.
Speaker 2: You to need a Greek card, you're a citizen. Come on,
Speaker 2: you're getting it, know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That return receipt, it's pretty chaotic. And then I also
Speaker 3: applied to be on the Holocaust the board of Trustees,
Speaker 3: and he got rid of all of those Democrats. And
Speaker 3: they're all complaining that you shouldn't, you know, weaponize the Holocaust.
Speaker 3: But you know what, he does have the right to
Speaker 3: choose his own people if he wants to. Usually in
Speaker 3: the past it was the chairman who was either a
Speaker 3: Republican or a Democrat, but the other people one never knew,
Speaker 3: you know who they were. Sure, So he's done all
Speaker 3: that's coming in. The Jewish press has come under a
Speaker 3: lot of criticism for that, so it's a it's very mixed,
Speaker 3: you know. For somebody like myself who respects some of
Speaker 3: what he says another I really gets upset about. It's
Speaker 3: really ambivalent. I wake up one morning, you know, hating
Speaker 3: the guy. In the next minute, you're confused.
Speaker 2: At this point you're confused. Well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Can we at least celebrate the release you and I
Speaker 2: were with at what we were together a little over
Speaker 2: a year ago at one of the Free the Hostages demonstrations.
Speaker 2: Can we at least agree to celebrate the release today
Speaker 2: of the American Israeli young guy twenty one years old
Speaker 2: who you know, who thankfully was reunited with his family, Eden, Eden, Alexander.
Speaker 2: Did you see that video?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, very happy. Here's something interesting is that many of
Speaker 3: the hostage families don't trust Not Tenniahu to release them,
Speaker 3: but they trust the president. They feel the president will
Speaker 3: release the other fifty nine alive and dead hostages, and
Speaker 3: he probably will do it. And that's a very interesting thing, Dan.
Speaker 3: Isn't it that the Israelis themselves and so do not
Speaker 3: trust not Tanniyahu to do it, but they do trust
Speaker 3: the president. What explains that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that that like any politician, there are
Speaker 2: those in the La Coud political at sphere over there,
Speaker 2: trust net Yahu and those on the other side of
Speaker 2: the Aisle. Done. I mean, there's always a political background
Speaker 2: to it, but it is interesting. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think Trump is pretty revered in Israel. I think that
Speaker 2: he is seen as a friend of Israel, and if
Speaker 2: he ever is able to get Iran to give up
Speaker 2: the nuclear program. I think if they build a Mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore in Israel, they'll have his sculpture there.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they do kind of look upon him
Speaker 3: as kind of a Messianic figure, I believe it or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's strong. Let me tell you, Jack, that is
Speaker 2: strong language. I don't look upon anyone that way. But
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, that is a very strong,
Speaker 2: you know, point of view. Maybe they believe that somehow
Speaker 2: they're what you're saying, is that is that that maybe
Speaker 2: some in Israel look upon and you're progressive Democrat, that
Speaker 2: that some in Israel look upon him maybe being guided.
Speaker 2: I assume when you use the word messianic, someone who
Speaker 2: is considered to be Messianic is being guided by the
Speaker 2: hand of God.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she feels that way too, after he
Speaker 3: has survived the assassination. But I really think Israelis do
Speaker 3: have this feeling that if anyone can bring a solution
Speaker 3: to a proper that goes one hundred years back and
Speaker 3: no one has ever resolved it, he might be the
Speaker 3: Messianic person to resolve the situation piece between the Palestinians
Speaker 3: and Israelis.
Speaker 2: Well, if that is true, it's gonna drive the Globe
Speaker 2: editorial board nuts, don't you think?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hey, Jack, love you calls. Thanks man. Great to hear
Speaker 2: your voice. Strong call to start us off. Thank you,
Speaker 2: my friend. Talk to you soon. Goodnight. All right, let
Speaker 2: me get one more in here before the break, and
Speaker 2: I go to John in New York. John in New York,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightsaker.
Speaker 5: Right ahead, Yes, hello Dan, How you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. I wish I was doing as well
Speaker 2: as the stock market did today. But close are you.
Speaker 5: Okay? You know I have a lot of different flora
Speaker 5: one case that invested in that. I'm very happy about it.
Speaker 2: WHOA you got a lot of floral one case? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you handling other people's money? I assume you only
Speaker 2: have one for yourself, or maybe you have more. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 5: Well what I mean by that. You know, I got
Speaker 5: like three or four really from different companies who I
Speaker 5: held on to the things, you know, when I moved.
Speaker 6: To a new job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got you, got you, No, I understand you roll
Speaker 2: them over up, I got it. I totally get it right.
Speaker 5: And you know, I just want to mention that I
Speaker 5: work with people that are negative towards Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And Trump you're in New York City. If you're in
Speaker 2: New York City, I assume most of the people are
Speaker 2: negative towards Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: No, I'm in the country. I live upstate New York,
Speaker 5: you know, about forty five miles west of Walton, the capitol, Okay,
Speaker 5: And a lot of people think that he'll never get
Speaker 5: anywhere with this China tire field. Well, he started the show.
Speaker 5: Maybe he will, isn't he.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it. Look, maybe I don't know how
Speaker 2: these things work. I'm fairly sophisticated, but I assume that
Speaker 2: Jizing Ping is no fan of Donald Trump. Maybe they'll
Speaker 2: smile for the cameras and all of that, but they
Speaker 2: are our biggest rival. They will be the rival of
Speaker 2: the twenty first century. They're not rooting for our success.
Speaker 2: We're not rooting for their success. It's not a game
Speaker 2: where there can be two winners, there will be one
Speaker 2: dominant economy in this century, and China is convinced it
Speaker 2: will be China. Right.
Speaker 5: But the thing is, remember that they need our money
Speaker 5: and they need to keep their people in those factories
Speaker 5: making the things which we buy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that, and right now
Speaker 2: that the imbalance of trade is really out of whack,
Speaker 2: and we got to start selling stuff to them to
Speaker 2: balance off what we're buying from them. Everybody loves whatever
Speaker 2: they I mean, we buy so much from China, and
Speaker 2: Donald Trump basically is saying, hey, we've been giving them
Speaker 2: a free ride, and the free ride stops now, so
Speaker 2: how much we'll we'll China go along and say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to be a big player. We got to
Speaker 2: we have to have some equanimity with the US and
Speaker 2: we can still beat them. I guess somehow, someway, that's
Speaker 2: what they got to figure out. I mean, I remember
Speaker 2: being I don't know if I ever told you this story.
Speaker 2: I remember being in Northern Ireland. It was in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty two. I was over there working in television for
Speaker 2: WVZ and we were doing a story on Irish connections
Speaker 2: between Boston and in Ireland, and we were in a
Speaker 2: hotel in Derry also known as London Derry, Northern Ireland.
Speaker 2: And I was shocked because sitting a couple of tables
Speaker 2: from us in the dining room that morning were four
Speaker 2: or five guys who are obviously in the the the
Speaker 2: the uniform of the Chinese military, not the Chinese military,
Speaker 2: but in the in the dress of the the government
Speaker 2: officials of China. They were they had, they had a
Speaker 2: footprint in Northern Ireland in nineteen eighty two. And if
Speaker 2: their footprint is only expanded in the last forty three
Speaker 2: forty three years.
Speaker 4: How about that.
Speaker 5: You know, I visited China once years ago for ten days,
Speaker 5: and I'll tell you in conversation with some young people,
Speaker 5: from what I saw, the young people don't like that,
Speaker 5: going all, what.
Speaker 2: Can they do about it? Though the government has all
Speaker 2: the all the guns and all the money. I know,
Speaker 2: you know, No, I'm serious, they don't know that.
Speaker 7: True.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it's true. It's the way it is, yea.
Speaker 5: And they know that too, and.
Speaker 2: And and and they're now using they're using more effectively. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, the TikTok and social media against us, stuff
Speaker 2: that they don't allow their kids to be exposed to
Speaker 2: They're making sure that our kids are being exposed to it.
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of things going on here besides
Speaker 2: the economic balance of the balance of trade. You gotta
Speaker 2: be they gotta be talking about fentanyl. Uh, the production
Speaker 2: of the chemicals that that that are made into fentanyl
Speaker 2: pills in Mexico. The raw materials count from China to Mexico.
Speaker 2: That stuff's got to stop. There's a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: stuff in play here. And if Trump is able to
Speaker 2: strike the deal, that fentanyl goes down, the border gets tied,
Speaker 2: our economy expands. He could become, you know, a transitional president.
Speaker 2: He has that that potential.
Speaker 5: So yeah, well I have I have faith in the man.
Speaker 5: So let's see what happens.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you keep calling, Okay, I want to
Speaker 2: hear from those who are supportive and those who are critical.
Speaker 2: Simple as that.
Speaker 5: All right, John, appreciate you, Ca, Yeah, good night, Now
Speaker 5: talk to you next week.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thanks, John, appreciate you. Loyally to nightside. Well again,
Speaker 2: rolling here, we got the news coming up. Here is
Speaker 2: six one seven two thirty one line there and six
Speaker 2: one seven nine three one We're talking about this until midnight,
Speaker 2: with it without you. I'd prefer to be with you.
Speaker 2: Coming back on nightside, night Side with Dan Ray on
Speaker 2: WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, President Trump, UH, with this as backdrop.
Speaker 2: UH left on this four day tour of the Middle East.
Speaker 2: He will be he left today probably in the air
Speaker 2: right now. Uh. Stopping in Saudi Arabia could cut her
Speaker 2: and the United Arab Emirates on a trip, underscoring the
Speaker 2: deepening economic ties, according to ABC News here between the
Speaker 2: US and the Gulf Kingdoms. Traveling to a region facing
Speaker 2: ongoing diplomatic, political, and security challenges, including Iron's nuclear program,
Speaker 2: the humanitarian crisis and gods in the war between Israel
Speaker 2: and Hamas, and the fate of Syria following a brutal
Speaker 2: fourteen year civil war. Trump is expected to focus on
Speaker 2: business development and trade agreements of following commitments from Saudi
Speaker 2: Arabia and the UAE to invest hundreds of billions of
Speaker 2: dollars in the US. On Friday. Oh yeah, so he'll
Speaker 2: be there Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday to return on Friday, back
Speaker 2: to the phones. We go going to go to my
Speaker 2: pal Theodore in Maryland. Theodore, how are you? Thanks for
Speaker 2: calling in tonight.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm listening and I'm.
Speaker 2: Disgusted, disgusted with what.
Speaker 7: With people and the programs that Trump to supported. He's
Speaker 7: an abomination.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's focus just for a moment on today.
Speaker 2: We got finally the last American Israeli hostage home. That's
Speaker 2: a good thing, you.
Speaker 7: Agree for that particular person, Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a good thing for everybody. Whenever
Speaker 2: there's an American in trouble somewhere, I'm rooting for that
Speaker 2: person to get out of trouble.
Speaker 7: Well, why don't you concentrate on Americans that are in
Speaker 7: trouble here? Him and Elon Musk fired all those people.
Speaker 7: And I see this, Dan, I'm not a prophet, but
Speaker 7: everybody who supported that man and who takes pleasure in
Speaker 7: the fact that he fired those people, kicked them off
Speaker 7: their job, They got mortgages, they got children in school.
Speaker 7: Everybody from the high to the low who supported that Manna,
Speaker 7: They're gonna suffer. They got families. You just watch because
Speaker 7: it makes no sense to what he's done and all
Speaker 7: these triples.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, Okay, let me ask
Speaker 2: you this a Devil's advocate question. Do you think that
Speaker 2: there are any people who are employed in America, private
Speaker 2: sector or public sector, should ever lose their jobs.
Speaker 7: Well, that's not the point, whether they should lose their jobs.
Speaker 7: You don't fire people like that. They got contracts, they
Speaker 7: got unions. There has a way of doing things.
Speaker 5: And the most of my.
Speaker 2: People so far, theater correct me if I'm wrong, and
Speaker 2: I might be, but most of the people who have
Speaker 2: left the federal government so far have taken a fairly
Speaker 2: comfortable buyout. That's something that happens in the private sector
Speaker 2: all the time. I mean, I don't take any joy
Speaker 2: in anyone losing their job, Okay, I mean I feel
Speaker 2: badly when you know, when the Oriols of the Red
Speaker 2: Sox released some player and say, hey, you're thirty three
Speaker 2: years old, but you're done. It's the end of the line.
Speaker 2: Go go coach high school, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean, well, if you well, if I'm not, I'm
Speaker 7: not that Casper Milk toast about the situation. Most of
Speaker 7: those people haven't gotten other jobs, and people say that,
Speaker 7: look at the statistics. Put the must put all those
Speaker 7: billions up that he saved through so called waste fraud
Speaker 7: and abuse, that was a lie. They're cutting jobs, they're
Speaker 7: cutting the National Health Service, people who have serious diseases
Speaker 7: that we were treating and researching overseas. That's going with
Speaker 7: a us AID situation, and in my situation, with these
Speaker 7: people being thrown out of the country, they get a
Speaker 7: due process. He's talking about Centain Americans to foreign countries and.
Speaker 2: The well holy he's He's made some statements which I
Speaker 2: think are definitely wrong. But if you find people here
Speaker 2: who are here illegally. By the way, due process is
Speaker 2: a concept that everybody has a right to a certain
Speaker 2: amount of due process, but not everybody's due process is
Speaker 2: going to be the same. You understand that you and
Speaker 2: I are US citizens. We have a lot more due
Speaker 2: process that someone who is here illegally. You can dispose
Speaker 2: of someone's circumstances.
Speaker 7: If they arguing, likely Lloyds will tell you that that
Speaker 7: section of the fourteenth of that Amendment says due process.
Speaker 7: It doesn't say citizens have due process. It's just anybody
Speaker 7: in the United States.
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing that with you, but I'm not arguing
Speaker 2: with that with your theater. What I'm trying to say
Speaker 2: is that due process is a constitutional concept that's enshrined
Speaker 2: in both the Fifth and the fourteenth Amendment. We understand
Speaker 2: that everybody agrees with that, at least I do and
Speaker 2: you do. But the question is then what is due process?
Speaker 2: So if you're tonight picked up or I'm tonight picked
Speaker 2: up at a traffic stop, even and we're US citizens,
Speaker 2: we have substantially more due process than someone who has
Speaker 2: come into the country illegally. Uh and who whose only
Speaker 2: due process might be adjudication and an immigration court. Uh
Speaker 2: And and they haven't asserted, you know, asylum rights or whatever.
Speaker 2: Uh And those.
Speaker 7: People they still get basically the same due process they
Speaker 7: want to get kicked out of the country at history.
Speaker 2: I hate to tell you this, but if if you
Speaker 2: and I were if they threatened you and I with
Speaker 2: being kicked out of the country, we we would have
Speaker 2: all sorts of rights. I mean, for example, you know what,
Speaker 2: and you're a smart guy, you know Whatcherai is. You
Speaker 2: know that that the cases to be appealed for the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court to take a case, they have to grant Scherai. Now,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to say, hey, I want my case
Speaker 2: to going in front of US Supreme Court. US Supreme
Speaker 2: Court doesn't take all their cases. They take about two
Speaker 2: percent of the cases that are that are appealed up there.
Speaker 7: But when you say, when you say due process, okay,
Speaker 7: due process because I'm a citizen is slightly different. Due
Speaker 7: process for illegal immigrants who came into this country is
Speaker 7: to have a hearing before an immigration judge that his
Speaker 7: due process and it gets he gets sent back and
Speaker 7: deported to what other country? And my thing is this also,
Speaker 7: you have a very large audience, and you've had programs
Speaker 7: on there about how you got your favorite car and mechanics.
Speaker 7: Why aren't you putting someone on, let's say may performer
Speaker 7: Governor O'Malley, he worked the head of the Social Good
Speaker 7: Administration and some workers inform your audience. Because once these
Speaker 7: plans go in, some of the same programs that a
Speaker 7: lot of you, a lot of your listeners benefit from,
Speaker 7: are gonna be cunt And it just seems to me
Speaker 7: that the Republicans.
Speaker 2: Social security is not gonna be cut Theodore. I mean,
Speaker 2: I am not going to engage in scare tactics and
Speaker 2: telling people social security is going to be caught up
Speaker 2: there may be changes, but I'm gonna be very specific
Speaker 2: those changes. They're gonna say, Okay, people who are who are,
Speaker 2: and which have already gone into place. By the way,
Speaker 2: with prior administrations, it used to be that the full
Speaker 2: retirement age was sixty five, and then they moved it
Speaker 2: up to sixty five and six months.
Speaker 7: Well, guess what. Let me interrupt you. All of the
Speaker 7: people that you listen to, hard working people who called
Speaker 7: your programs, let me explain what they're gonna do. They
Speaker 7: are also once they raised the retirement age, the Republicans
Speaker 7: could make social security basically a sore and solid forever.
Speaker 7: All they have to do is raise the one hundred
Speaker 7: and seventy six thousand dollars limit from which they take
Speaker 7: social securities.
Speaker 2: Well, that's say you're doing well the theatre. What you're
Speaker 2: doing is your change to the argument, And the argument is,
Speaker 2: let's do this. Let's put a fifty three percent tax
Speaker 2: on everything that anybody earns above and beyond their income
Speaker 2: tax so we can fund social security through the year
Speaker 2: three thousand and sixty four. I'm in favor of that.
Speaker 2: Let us just tax the rich so that we have
Speaker 2: all money and social security through. That's a whole different
Speaker 2: story there, you know. I mean, you look at a
Speaker 2: scare people. That's I don't do that on this program.
Speaker 7: I'm not scaring people. I'm just saying this. If you
Speaker 7: could devote an hour to a mechanic telling people about
Speaker 7: their cars as you have, if you can devote an
Speaker 7: hour the people talking about when they got young men
Speaker 7: or women when they got their first car, teenagers, you
Speaker 7: seem you would do a service by putting people on there,
Speaker 7: actual people who glassed the job, who got mortgages, who
Speaker 7: can find other jobs, of doctors who work at the
Speaker 7: National Health Associates, National Institute of Health working.
Speaker 3: On cures for this.
Speaker 2: Here's what I want to do, Theodore. I want to
Speaker 2: pass a law that says, once you're hired. What Once
Speaker 2: someone is hired by the federal government or also by
Speaker 2: the state government, they can never be terminated.
Speaker 7: Dan, if I bought if I bought your shares in
Speaker 7: the station which you own, and I bought fifty one
Speaker 7: percent of that station, and I fired you summarily, just
Speaker 7: fired you. Now you have assets which will keep you
Speaker 7: going for a while, but just fired you for no reason.
Speaker 7: I have empathy, and I listened to these right wing stations.
Speaker 7: Down here in Maryland and the dumber parts of the country,
Speaker 7: you have people actually laughing, laughing.
Speaker 2: I'm not laughing at anyone's misfortune, Theodore. I'm not laughing
Speaker 2: at a one's misfortune. But what I'm telling you is
Speaker 2: private businesses. Private company's got a business all the time,
Speaker 2: all the time. They do it all the time. And
Speaker 2: private companies lay off people all the time. They lay
Speaker 2: off people to save the company. And it's it's always
Speaker 2: oftentimes it's the last one hired.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, you know I wasn't. I didn't get a
Speaker 7: high rank in the US in the US Army. I
Speaker 7: was a personal specialist back in the day before they
Speaker 7: had everything, and I served the country. I did my time.
Speaker 7: But to class expersions on government workers that they're lazy,
Speaker 7: that they don't do jo who said that you do
Speaker 7: was redundant? Who said the Republican will tell you that.
Speaker 2: So, Theodore, we've gone. We've gone ten minutes here, my man,
Speaker 2: I give you aught more time than others, but I
Speaker 2: passed my break. I gotta let you run. Keep calling bank.
Speaker 7: You very much.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, thank you for calling. We'll take a quick
Speaker 2: break on night side we're coming right back. I will
Speaker 2: get Andrew, you, Scott, Jeff, and Steve. We'll get you
Speaker 2: all in. I promise. None of you are going to
Speaker 2: get ten minutes, but I'll get you Allie, and I promise.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: We have full lines, so I'm gonna crunch everybody. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me start off with Steve and Virginia Beach. Steve,
Speaker 2: you gotta be quick for me, buddy, because I got
Speaker 2: four behind you. Go ahead, Steve, Okay, I will Dan.
Speaker 6: Well, First of all, my opinion of the Trump administration
Speaker 6: is they had this sledgehammer approach. You know, it's like
Speaker 6: saying there's a flea in the house, let's get the sledgehammer.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I agree with you.
Speaker 8: And also okay, and the Harvard thing and almost all
Speaker 8: these things, it's like taking freedoms away. It's like less
Speaker 8: and less freedoms allowed. If you, you know, sign these
Speaker 8: contracts or get these law firms in line, there's less freedom.
Speaker 8: And you know, Boston is the center of like the
Speaker 8: Tea Party, and that was all about freedom, right, So
Speaker 8: it's it's also the Constitution. Donald Trump is like not
Speaker 8: isn't supposed to serve uphold the Constitution and you know,
Speaker 8: uh protect And it's the executive branch should never completely
Speaker 8: overshadow the other two branches of the government.
Speaker 2: Well, that that's a struggle that existed. You always have
Speaker 2: had strong presidents. Roosevelt was a strong president. The Republicans
Speaker 2: were horrified that he tried to pack the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: So it is it is a struggle that exists between
Speaker 2: certain presidents. Uh and uh. And that's just the way
Speaker 2: it is. Steve, I want you to call me earlier
Speaker 2: some night because I think he made some interesting points
Speaker 2: and I'd like to talk to you longer. I can't
Speaker 2: give you anywhere near the time i'd like to, okay,
Speaker 2: because of because the hour is late. But thank you
Speaker 2: for listening to us.
Speaker 6: All right, I would definitely call back. And you said
Speaker 6: get your callers to call in because you don't have
Speaker 6: a sidekick, and I'm applying to be a side to
Speaker 6: get paid for this call right now from WBD.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Dave, if I could, I would thanks
Speaker 2: have a good Hi. Thanks for let's keep rolling here
Speaker 2: real quick. You're gonna go to Andrea in Boston. Andrea. Hello, Hi, Andrea, welcome,
Speaker 2: go right ahead.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, I've never got on a radiation before.
Speaker 9: It's my first time. Okay, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2: Your's time and give you rid of a pause. All right,
Speaker 2: real quickly, go ahead, Andrea, you've got the microphone.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 9: So I'm currently a public policy in law double major
Speaker 9: Urban studies in college. So I'm kind of like learning
Speaker 9: about all this different stuff government, how the world works.
Speaker 4: And I have two things to say.
Speaker 9: Number one is about the nature of public policy and
Speaker 9: kind of again what I'm learning about in my introduction
Speaker 9: in the public policy class right now, about oh, it's
Speaker 9: really a tool to use what you want to get across.
Speaker 9: So I feel like that kind of plays into how
Speaker 9: you think about Trump and why it's important to read
Speaker 9: into his lines. With every policy, with every executive order,
Speaker 9: with every thing that goes along, you know, people are
Speaker 9: gonna be maybe me who leans a little bit more liberal,
Speaker 9: are gonna have things to say about that and the
Speaker 9: way it affects people and what is this really gonna
Speaker 9: do once it's employed. And of course I think the
Speaker 9: conservative rite to take off of that is well, you know,
Speaker 9: it's actually doing this and actually gonna go there and
Speaker 9: actually gonna do that. But the truth is all folic
Speaker 9: policy kind of serves, serves some purpose, it goes towards
Speaker 9: some thing, and if it's circular and some nature. But
Speaker 9: I feel like with Trump, there's so many, you know,
Speaker 9: ways and reasons to kind of read between the lines
Speaker 9: of why is he doing this? Is what and what
Speaker 9: is it gonna do personally as a US citizen, when
Speaker 9: he's calling the governor of Puerto Rico nasty or talking
Speaker 9: to to the to the governor of Maine in the
Speaker 9: way that he did with no decorum, when he's posting
Speaker 9: AI videos on Instagram of him making Gaza into trump
Speaker 9: Land or whatever AI pictures of him as the post listen,
Speaker 9: I am so I have my best I live I
Speaker 9: live in the Bomb Country, like my dad lives in
Speaker 9: Boston whatever. I have friends in the suburbs of Boston.
Speaker 9: Some of my best friends are Okay, look, we don't
Speaker 9: have to go political, but we can be freak.
Speaker 2: About I don't want my US president. Okay, Andrew, on
Speaker 2: one thing I got to say, and I want you
Speaker 2: to call back. Okay, where are you going to school.
Speaker 2: Where are going to school?
Speaker 9: Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut.
Speaker 2: That's a great college. That's a great college, beautiful campus.
Speaker 2: I've been there, right. President Obama once said elections have consequences.
Speaker 2: Elections have consequences, But call back earlier and we'll have
Speaker 2: a longer conversation. I got three others who I got
Speaker 2: to get to. I'm so appreciative of the fact that
Speaker 2: you called. I want you to become a regular caller. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's I hope that's the deal. Thanks, Andrea. Let me
Speaker 2: get Scott and Quincy. Scott got to get you in
Speaker 2: quickly here if I can go right ahead, Scott.
Speaker 4: Well, great show, Dan, Donald Trump is really stirring the pot,
Speaker 4: that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: And you're so for me. The thing that stands out
Speaker 4: the most is, uh, the the illegal migrants to get
Speaker 4: into trouble, who are being deported, all these things that
Speaker 4: are going on. It's my hope, it's my belief that
Speaker 4: they don't have the same legal standing as a US
Speaker 4: citizen or legal resident. I don't think they should have
Speaker 4: the same standing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have due process rights, but they're they're different
Speaker 2: levels of due process. And Scott, I hate to do
Speaker 2: this to you, but I'm trying to get everybody a couple.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get one more in. So let me
Speaker 2: give you a final more in. No, no, go ahead,
Speaker 2: give you a final quick thought and then let me
Speaker 2: get to Ron in Weymouth. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, I just hope what comes out of the Trump
Speaker 4: administration this time around is we define that and code
Speaker 4: that in law.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well it will be but but but case
Speaker 2: law case law will will basically will cold that they
Speaker 2: will not be called quoted legislatively. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: I got to run. Let me go to Ron in Weymouth. Ron,
Speaker 2: I got thirty forty five seconds.
Speaker 10: For your to Theodore, try to illegally immigrate into Mexico
Speaker 10: and see what happens. It's actually a telany and the
Speaker 10: laws there say that Article WON twenty three, that they
Speaker 10: go up to two years in prison and a final
Speaker 10: three hundred to five hundred thousand pesos will be imposed
Speaker 10: on the far And when is the country illegally FYI
Speaker 10: to Theodore, wake up, he's just following everything he hears
Speaker 10: in the media.
Speaker 2: Okay, Theodore is one of my very very committed callers,
Speaker 2: and he believes passionately and that's why. And I like
Speaker 2: to have some balance in the program, and I think
Speaker 2: we had some balance this hour, which is great. Run.
Speaker 10: Yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: We should have both sides of every story.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, my friend. We'll talk soon. Okay,
Speaker 2: Thanks Ron, I have a great night. Okay, we're done
Speaker 2: for the night. I'm thinking about thirty seconds here?
Speaker 3: What do I have?
Speaker 2: Help me out, Noah, thirty seconds Okay, I've read the
Speaker 2: clock correctly. I will be on Facebook, nice hot with
Speaker 2: Dan Ray in about a few minutes, three minutes. I
Speaker 2: want to thank Noah, want to thank Marita, want to
Speaker 2: thank all the callers and all the listeners. I wish
Speaker 2: you a great Tuesday, Enjoy Tuesday. All reminder, as always
Speaker 2: as I do every night, all dogs, all cats, all
Speaker 2: pets go to heaven. That's where my pal Charlie Ray is,
Speaker 2: who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's all your
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