Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the and Or
Review Season two, episodes one to three. I'm the turn
Down from mon Cressnail and I'm joined by you like that?
Didn't you took a second? I didn't get that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that one. I am the test pilot
crick composer.
Speaker 3: I am the os X night tatter Field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I took a second there, but yeah, it's funny.
When I was pulling this up on IMDb because I
was looking for some acting stuff and just some other info,
I saw it's a twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five,
because honestly, this is the last season, just a two
you know, one two done, wam bam, Thank you, ma'am.
But it's just like it is sad, but also just
like you usually fake these last few reviews. It has
been like, oh, year and a half or two years. Factly,
this is three years it's been. It's been a moment.
It's to the moment where I watched episode one and
I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go watch a quick
recap on YouTube because I usually try to rewatch that
same yeah, same, yeah, because I I usually try to
rewatch shows now because when I work at home, I
got little more time, and I just I kind of
just forgot and Or was this week. So I just
came up all me and good, well, I know enough,
and there's lots going on in the show and we're
gonna break it all down here tonight. So I'll start
with you know, I think I can. I just called
mister Star Wars. I think we're all big Star Wars fans,
but I think I'll give Taylor mister Star Wars. You know,
he knows clone numbers and animals. And I don't know
Qui Jin's middle name, so what it is? What it
was Qui middle name?
Speaker 3: Taylor gone? First name?
Speaker 1: Last name? Actually, no, I think Qui Gon says first name.
It's like Mary Kate, Yes, So what's his middle name?
Speaker 3: I could not tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's Jackson anyway, So and Or season two, yeah,
Quill Jackson, no Qui Gon, no Qui Gon Jackson Gin
read blood lines. They're talking about great jedies. Anyways, I
don't want to believe you, and I kind of believe
you know, and the we're season two, Awestly, we're gonna
get a spoils, but no one spoils first. We'll take
an ad break and tell you what's going on geek
first after the fact. But what are you feeling so
far about and or being back?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Uh, this is just it's just such a
delight the way that the show is shot, certain aspects
and certain moments, they just it's really really good and
you just get to see a the way that first
episode starts, the first five minutes just it's a perspective
and it's a beautiful shot of just something you don't
get to see in the other parts of Star Wars.
While the other parts of Star Wars definitely have some
beautiful shots and beautiful moments in its own way, it's
just a very different, uh, aesthetic that you get in
the show. And it's such a treat. It's really really,
really nice, and it's just such a simple quality of
life building component to just the Star Wars universe that
I can really appreciate and respect. And it's just it's
been said many a time before, and I think, like
you guys have said it in your own way, and
I'm just going to reiterate it now. Just how can
you have the writing and this show and the way
this show is. And you can have the same kind
of thing in other Star Wars movies where it's like
dark magic secrets, only the Sith new like somehow Palpatine's
return and then oh they fly nowt yeah, they fly now.
Like those lines are in the same universe as the
dialogue you get in here, and it's just it's really
it's something else. It really is something else, but at
its core it's something else.
Speaker 1: We'll do it something else at its core.
Speaker 3: When you watch those old Star Wars movies and you're
looking at oh you see like fifty stormtroopers. Oh, that's
not much of a worry. Oh you see like a
bunch of tie fighters, Like, oh, no, our heroes will
handle it. Yaha, YadA, YadA. So forth, now we know
the outcome of most of these characters. But I will say,
Andor does such a great job where one imperial officer
feels like it's the end of the world. It's a nightmare,
and you just you feel so tense and holy shit,
just there's definitely with causation and reason behind certain actions
that you see in this in these episodes, one in particular,
where it's just really really crazy that they were going
there because we've never really seen that in Star Wars before,
but it's it fits with how some of these egotistical
maniacs are going to operate. But yeah, it's just it's
just crazy to see where all of this good writing
can really take us with this universe in such a
dark place. It's not always it's not always that happy
hunky dory side of sorrows, which you know, not all
sorrows this happy hunky dory. But it's just I'm just
gonna end up repeating myself again and again. I'm happy
with the writing, I'm happy with the cinematography, I'm happy
with the narrative of where we're going so far, and
I think these first three episodes are really really they're
set in the stage, and I'm excited to see where
we're gonna go. You feel really really hopeless, and you
feel stressed out as you know things are trying to
unfold here. And you're not trying to force you to
laugh or anything, but you can chuckle at just the stressful,
tense filled situations just of things that are unfolding here.
So I think it's great, this is this is awesome,
and I'm super stoked to see this before Revenge of
the Sith this weekend.
Speaker 1: Well you already saw it.
Speaker 3: I already saw Revenge of the Sith.
Speaker 1: No, you said you're stoked to see this. May it
sound like you're still going to see this? Also, why
the fuck did this guy get our background picture?
Speaker 3: The guys Cereal change off? It wasn't me.
Speaker 2: It wasn't me.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You make the room, you make the background people here
and or in there in Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Sure, Kirkland just searched up what character looks like me?
He did, like a picture finer and then Cereal came up.
Speaker 2: I just searched and or that was the first image.
It was no, not at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your cereal specifically that I can use for my
podcast today.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go next because usually you know, I go
last when I intro show. But I'm gonna go just
because to jump off something Taylor said where I know
you're like, oh, the I fly in it or they
fly now and somehow they returned, Like how do we
get from that to that? It's because this is a
very specific slice of Star Wars, and I do think
like I'm I'm of a few minds when it comes
to and Er. And it's interesting because I think with
the quality of this show, there's two things. One I
can see the same way that I have isms that
I don't like in Star Wars, I can see with this,
whether it's music choices, whether there's a very dramatic thing
that happens at the end that's, like you said toall,
something we've never gone to Star Wars and it crosses
a line. Not saying for me, I'm just saying for others.
I think there's many people that do look at this
and this is not their Star Wars. This is not
what they would want. And I think there's part of
me that goes, oh, Like, as much as I love
this show, I don't think everything from what Star Wars
is with that George Lucas trilogy to this, I don't
think that could be for everyone. If you were say, okay,
going forward, this is the Star Wars. You know all
the all the shows are gonna be this serious, uh,
this heavy tackling some very mature conversations and topics. I
don't think they could do that now. I think I
said that a couple of years ago. I'm still the
mindset I don't know if they can. But if you're
to ask me what I would do if there's a
fucking monkey paw, that would probably be my wish because
I'd rather Star Wars just go in a more mature
adult and cut off maybe some audience members. To be
this good versus kind of the stuff we've been getting.
I'd say, Rise in Skywalker and all Rise of Skywalker,
not rise An's Gone Skywalker, Rise of Skywalker and on,
because it's fair. I'm not gonna say a fifty to
fifty track record. It's been all losing track record since then,
and it's so good to have something of this quality
and to Also the other reason is most scoopers say,
your boy doesn't like this type of Star Wars, that's
why they cut it. So that's another reason why every
time you want to tell about Filoni, where is he hates
this fucking Star Wars and I get I get to
a point, especially this one, there were moments where I
was like, Wow, I'm surprised they're introducing this type of
stuff into Star Wars. So when you got the main guy,
which God, this is why I really hope Filonia does
not get the job, because the rumor is kafee. He's
stepping down August. I really hope he doesn't, because this
was planning to be multiple seasons. Say yeah, let's I
don't have it. I don't have a filony one. I
just say, he's yeah, it doesn't share, it doesn't have
a Soka in it, you know. So that's my thing
where I adjust He he wouldstment, Yeah, he would put
a soaka on. There's you know that music scene, oh
so called a ripping it up. But my thing is
I at where I am at this point. I would
love if every Star Wars with like this, because at
least I know it's quality to the biggest thing of today.
When I saw, I don't know if it was Disney
or Star Wars. They tweet a picture and it's a
classic like floating heads picture. Right, It's a cool stars
background and there's like twenty characters on it. But much
to the difference of many posters that do that, and
even Rogue one the movie, which I'm not the biggest
fan of, I look at that poster and about eighty
eighty five percent of those characters have fleshed out stories
and I know exactly what's going on or kind of
the vicinity they're in, right, We're how many Marvel DC
Star Wars stuff do we get floating poster? It's like
this person means dick all of the story. Really, they
just look cool or they're a side character, right, like
even coming up with Thunderbolts. Not to bring it down,
but it's just like, and I love the character Ghosts,
but it's like there've only been one project. I don't
know what ghost is, right, but fucking like Cereal, you know,
I know everything. And I just say his name is
a meme because of season one, but I know from
season one and the second we get back to I'm like, oh,
I know exactly how this character works. Also, we're gonna
get some new additions and new ventures for the characters
like we did, and the sat of thing is like
same thing, like what happens with that character in episode three?
I guarantee this time to be like I don't want
this in Star Like I don't care il spoil. It's
like a guy dealing with anxiety with his mother and
some I wouldn't want that in Star Wars, like where's
the lightsaber? Where's the Force? And I do get that
why this is probably not as mainstream as it could be.
But man, it's to me, it's just like a refresher
of what Star Wars needs. And that's the biggest thing
where I know all these characters' motivations. Like I said,
I did watch a recap because there's some specifics where
like okay, I either need to know who that person's
relation to or just exactly where we left off. And no,
this is another great three episode. I I'm not sure
because we're talking about the Mike in the discard. I'm
not sure where ranks ark wise. It's just it's just
all great. I have like kind of a ranking of
the certain arcs that I prefer more than the others.
But none of them are bad. None of them feel
like they take too long. Not sure I feel still
about the three episodes, but tonight was still fun. Like yeah,
like they said, it is kind of like a mini
Star Wars. Well, it's not many Stars movie. It's like
you got a Star Wars movie, got I don't know,
and or the hostage dance I don't know. Cornfield plan,
I don't know. They can make a movie of a
ass chat GP and they'll do something. But No thought
was fantastic, just again, looks beautiful. I do understand there's
stuff that usually maybe there'd be music where I go, ah,
I don't even know, but they just make this portion
of the world work so well. Everything just feels palpable.
Which that's something where it's like if there's something in
Star Wars and there's it's not well rounded, and then
you introduce new things, it doesn't always work. Where this
world is just I don't want to say perfect, but
it knows exactly what it is. And it's just like
dripping in care development, dripping in story. You really have
to watch and pay attention to the things going on.
And that's not like a bad thing. I'm gripped by saying, Okay,
what's gonna be next week? I can just like a
wedding like that that if I'm getting intense, I'm saying, like,
oh my god, what's gonna happen? It's just a fucking wedding,
not like a red wedding situation, whether it's a Hawtage
situation or a battle's just oh man, there's something going
on and there's a lot of politics here and which
way is it gonna fall down? No, just brilliant stuff.
I'll be very sad when this show's and you got
to enjoy the ride, and I'll be very happy for
these two. And I hope again the things that's critically reviewed, well,
I hope there's somebody that does. Whoever takes over hopefully
not flowing, whoever does take over Star Wars this, I say,
we do need all one of these things. I get
it to not say hey not also like when they
do the Schamp. The guy who directed Free Guy and
Dead pul Maulveren, he ain't making a movie like this
with Ryan Gosen, right, And that's fine. I just hope
there's always at least a sliver in the Star Wars
universe or something like this. And and Or isn't the
end of it. I'm not saying like and Or season
three or or anything, just something like, hey, what we
do with Andor? Let's do this somewhere else because everything's
just top notch, and it just feels like a matured
Star Wars but not too like Edge Lordy or anything. So,
mister Patzer, where are you in the return of and Or?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the return of Andor? Yeah?
Speaker 4: This this show for me is just peak Star Wars.
I don't think it's my favorite like type of story
in the Star Wars universe, because you know, I still
got my old Republic what's now Star Wars legends tales.
My head cannon is still holding onto those ties the
Darth Banes of the world and such that will forever
just be what I like, just love the most. But
I feel like I can make an argument that this
is honestly the best like story of like just the
way it's told in the Star Wars pretty much with
everything like going back to the originals, I don't think
it makes it there just with like the stuff that
it covers there, but definitely in the Disney realm, I like,
I don't know, I've seen episode seven so many times
now that it kind of gets just bundled together that
like maybe I you know, a recency bias really like
skews it. But definitely everything after that this project is
just like I think it's just mild better than like
what we've gotten literally since episode seven. I haven't seen
every Star Wars project, so maybe somebody can make some
kind of arguments there. But Star Wars is just they
have this obsession with the dark times, and we always
you know, talk about because that's just the projects that
they green light is stuff that's in that people are
for the most part, Yeah, exactly, it's something that they know.
I think this is the best telling of the Dark Times,
especially in just a more modern, more mature sense, Like
of course you have that in the original trilogy. Well,
everything in Star Wars is mostly Dark Times, so we
don't have a lack thereof Dark Times storytelling. But I
think that just the way that this is executed, with
the characters, with the actors, with their writing, just with
every thing, it's just so peak, like I almost forget
that this is like a Star Wars world. And then
I see the Star Wars issms and I'm like, man like,
like they're doing such a good job and not making
it feel like I'm on like Earth, even though there's things.
Speaker 2: That would remind me of an Earth like biome.
Speaker 4: But they have like so much like Star Wars tech
and everything, and then like the Star Wars just gloss over.
Speaker 2: It is just so good and they're not like leaning on.
Speaker 4: Uh, like they're not using just like the classic Star
Wars like let's throw in a Force user a lightsaber
and that's just gonna get people talking about our show
like they're not using those crutches. That's like a standard
Star Wars thing to like, well, our show's shit, but
you know Obi Wan was in it, any any any
faced offians Anakin, and so you know, like like like
things like that where they just know they'll get buzz
and talking about it and people will talk about that
one moment more so than the whole show. I think,
just from like especially these first three episodes, just like
peak across the board. There's some minor things that I
can like really nitpick, but I am just so fucking
hyped that way back in and our season.
Speaker 2: I'm sad that it's coming to an end, but as.
Speaker 4: You're like, I'm just gonna try and enjoy the ride
because this is just this is so gripping to me.
I'm you know, I made a joke off cast that
like I was sad I had to stop watching Dexter
because I'm doing to rewatch with that right now because
that's just peak right now with where I'm at in
that show, I'm loving it.
Speaker 2: And then jump into here and I'm like, fuck, this
is this is just peak now.
Speaker 4: I'm absolutely digging this. I was sad it ended after
three episodes. I could have kept going even though it
is already a little bit late in the evening. But
h no, I'm fucking loving this. Just like building on
tension and there's so much intensity to like spoiler free wise,
you know, Travisy kind of brought up a wedding sequence,
which is like kind of uplifting, but there's still just
so much.
Speaker 2: Like tension in the air in those moments. And yeah,
I think.
Speaker 1: Her name, I'm excited to get to talk to them
about that.
Speaker 4: Genevieve O'Reilly, I think the best. Yeah, she's the MVP
for me so far in the season, probably the whole show.
Like She's I think she is the most range in
these first three episodes, especially without the third episode ended.
But yeah, no, she She's absolutely fantastic. And I mean
everyone else is just fantastic. Like Diego Luna is just
such a I absolutely love him as a lead. He
just fits the Star Wars world so well. Stellan's fantastic.
Everyone is so good. So yeah, I'm I think I'll
just stop there because I just want to get in
and unpack these three episodes. But highly, highly highly recommend
everybody go watch this show.
Speaker 2: If if people say that.
Speaker 4: They're done with Star Wars, Go Watch and Or it
is so different, like it's different but.
Speaker 2: Still same in Star Wars because it doesn't DV, because
it still feels Star Wars y, but it feels.
Speaker 4: Different than just the well we know our heroes are
always gonna make it out because that's just you know,
that's that's a good family adventure type show that I
feel like a lot of Star Wars content kind of
goes to. But this just feels really gritty and mature.
And Travis Erty said, like it's not for everyone. That's
absolutely true, but this is one hundred percent for me.
I'm fucking loving the show, so yeah, I'll pass it along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like not that with the Genevie O'Reilly. It's
not that she she's been working since two thousand and
one and she's been forty eight projects. But I just
kind of hope out for and Or. She's in a
bunch of stuff. And I don't even mean like, oh,
get a Namseter something. I just want to see her,
you know. I guess she was did a voice and
Overwatch too, and I kind of forgot she. I completely
forgot her. She was in ah Sosoka, I did not
remember that you.
Speaker 3: Forgot the all the council meetings scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I completely forgot she was in Ahsoka.
Speaker 3: Which she'll be in. She'll probably be coming back for
SOSCA season two, and I think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that just shows the quality of writing between
Dave Filoni and like Tony Gilroy w Right. I don't
even remember her in Ahsoka wearing and or it's like,
my god, she like give this fucking woman amy, But yeah,
it's probably because she's the most due, but yeah, I
just want to see her in a bunch of like
fucking yourgo somebody, Alrea asked, or like somebody just get
her and start cycling her in these a twenty four
Neon movies we review because she's just so damn good.
Speaker 4: And I remember loving a Hideo project. You know, I'll
get her in like a.
Speaker 1: Y for DS two or DS three or whatever. He's Yeah,
she'd be perfect. We just need him to see end
or and then every time he becomes obsessed with actress today,
I just like retweets like thirty things about her, like
we need to discover margaret quality. It's like, oh my god,
who's this. Yeah, we need to get Genevieve O Riley
on his watch list, but I won't say watchless. That
sounds watchless to watch less. There you go start to
watch there, but uh yeah no, she's great. So yeah,
let's talk about spoilers. So we'll be right back after
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Let me just quickly shout those out because it's only
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I think we should start to keep this in sections.
So you got like Nidra cereal no, I got, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That makes more sense to do it that way because
I would be crossing over.
Speaker 1: For shutting out from the knees. Yeah, we got mom
off and stuff, we got ddra, we got and or,
and then we got is it bicks or bricks? All right?
Speaker 3: Bick just this bis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going to start. Yeah, yeah, how'd you
get that name? My father's a brick bake. But yeah,
where do we want to start on this one?
Speaker 4: Let's start with our boy and or mister Ander himself.
I already showed him out Diego Luna as absolutely fantastic.
I thought it was an interesting decision for him to
do his little air quote. Pit stop just felt like
a side quest adventure, like a filler sequence when he's
just like landed with those those in those rebels that
are like infighting, they're having their own little civil war there.
So like when it ended, I was just like, oh man,
this just reminds me of watching an anime back of
the day, and I'm like, well, I just watched a
twenty minute episode for for no.
Speaker 2: Reason at all, for like story purpose.
Speaker 4: I loved the sequence of it actually though, Like I
just love that, like the two teams starting together, they're
like super untrustworthy of Cassie, and I was expecting them
to be like, Okay, well then like like casting to
say a name and they're like, okay, yeah, we can
trust him. Now we're gonna just all, you know, work
together get out of this situation, and then that's what's
gonna lead to and or Cassie and getting like back
to where he kind of has to go.
Speaker 2: That is not what happened at all.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what made me love it because
it was so unexpected and it just felt like a movie,
like a short film of just like it's all misty.
Speaker 2: There's like creatures out there. It's like a Jurassic Park
type setting.
Speaker 4: Especially when we see them, it literally looks like like
a dinosaur type monster, like just the.
Speaker 2: Size of it.
Speaker 4: But I just thought it was so good with like
I don't know what's happening I don't really know who
these people are, and I don't know how it's gonna end,
So I I was just really engaged with it that
that when I got to the time that they're doing
their their five fists, their rock paper scissors, I don't
really fully understand what the game was, but they're doing that,
and then.
Speaker 1: Ship you're lying.
Speaker 4: I like the whole time, I thought, Okay, Cassie's gonna
like somehow smooth this over everyone, like these are characters
that we're gonna see again. He just fucking shoots like
multiple people and gets out of there and just fucks off.
And those people are just probably dead, like peop will
either kill themselves, starve, get eaten by the animals. Like
they're just never gonna get out of there. So it
was a side adventure, but I I just love the
way it was executed, so I don't have any problems
with it.
Speaker 3: You know what planet that is?
Speaker 2: Right? I thought, well, no, yeah, like the temples.
Speaker 3: So if you like yeaving four, yeah, where the rebel
sit up their base.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the moon, right, you have them four?
Come on, now, you four? Isn't having four the fourth moon?
If you haven't, is that what they called them.
Speaker 3: I believe end Or forest moon of and Or.
Speaker 4: His name is and Or Tlor's not okay, so Yavin
is the moon of indoors Yavin four.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're right. Maybe I've never looked into it if
it is a moon, just assumed because it was called four,
Like how we have fucking.
Speaker 3: Moon one four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, moon one exactly.
Speaker 4: I didn't you asked me that in Travis says a
ghost going on in the background trip me out, But uh,
just the temple actually, yeah, that's because it made me
think of Battlefront two, you know those maps.
Speaker 3: That's right. Oh yeah, let's go. That's it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got nothing out on the moon controversy.
But for the episode, loved, or i'd say, really enjoyed
everything that happened here. It's unfortunately like my least favorite
out of all the stories. But that's not anything like
it's like still great stuff, like he said, I think
a good like short film. Loved the opening of him
in some sort of you know, Empire bay ship wherever
it was. And then he's talking to a fellow spy
who seems like she's a bit more newer to the
game that she's just recently flipped over because she even
says like, oh, like, I like it here relatively right,
so but she knows she's doing the right thing or
handshaking everything, So I like that again. Visuals are great
when he has the tie fighter and he's just trying
to get out of there, and I know we've kind
of see it, but I feel like, not much live
action media. We've just seen people blown away by actual bolts.
We've seen chips, and we've seen people like run away.
But just to see these stormtroopers get taken out by
tie fighter, you know, lasers, it's gotta be a terrible
way to go. And I love that. I kept there
showing the door, like how's he gonna get out of here? Right?
Because they showed it at one point very little, like
it was there's a little space. I'm like, oh man,
it's gonna be cheesy. He's gonna like fly out and
he's gonna twist like oh I just made it, but no,
it fully closed him, like wasn't it happening? And then
it just says to like very like ruggly and terribly
And I think it's just like the perfect example of
this what and or is Instead of finding some sleek
way together. It's like, nah, I just gotta power my
way through burst a couple whole shoe out and then
boom right through it and everything's great there when he's escaping. Like,
I was surprised because Andre, we definitely got some visual sequences,
but to have something start off with an action set
piece this early, I think they kind of do that
to get people in. But man, did it look good
many of these episodes, just like last season, I go, oh,
I would take this if they said, hey, we're gonna
put a couple episodes in the theater or whatnot, like
that was a theater sequence. But no, Diegoluna is just
so good. I agree with you Kirkling on the rebel
stuff that was did not go the way I thought.
I thought, Okay, it's gonna be the classic misunderstanding you
say a name or oh, that's my sister's friend, like
and then they're all good. Never went that way, And
to me, what worked about that is one, at least
it's unpredictable, but two, that's how it should be in
like the early stages of the rebellion, right, because I'm
sure at any point even when we get to like
return the Jedi you still can't trust any everybody, right,
but the lines eventually get pretty drawn. It's like your bad,
you know, your empire, I'm rebellion. People are wearing fucking
logos all the time, Like look at about you having
for it later on, Like everyone's decked out in like
rebellion gear. Right, So it's like very easy to know
who's who we're right now if you misstep and say,
because it's the empire is very old, they're very dictatorship,
very looking out. We get that in a big sep
fuck BIX, right, yeah, I will remember it, BIX. Okay,
we get that in Bix episodes where it's just like
just even at work, you are being profiled and looked at,
you know, and it's you look at Tony. Gailroy talked
about he made a bunch of illusions to like, yeah,
this show is covering a lot of stuff that's happening today,
that happens especially in North America. And that's where it's
like you're in a stage where you don't want to
fuck up, and even if you guys are fighting for
the same cause, if there's an inkling that there's some trust.
That's why even with and or shooting that guy. It
made complete sense because he might not get out of there,
and his mission depends on him. His family and his
friends depend on him. It doesn't matter he doesn't have
time to sit around him maybe get through these people
where later on down the line, it'd be more like, oh,
on the rebellion, you say code word, I'm sure you're
good to go. So I like that seeing the early
stages of the rebellion, of where there's just a lack
of trust with everybody because and we've even seen that
with man Mafma, with Luthen, with I guess, Cassie himself
and Cassian's adoptive mom last year. There's all these people
that are going towards the rebellion, but they're all in
different spots. I'll sain Luth and the mo Mama are
together right now because that wedding, but last season they're
mostly apart. Right. So that's the thing where someone's or
what's in Sogrera. There's another one right of like can
you trust the people that Sagrera is gonna be sitting
out there? Maybe not. So it's these early stages where
people have the same idea, O, hey, we got to
take down the Empire. We're gonna get out of this,
but they don't. They're not exactly on the same level.
I know we're gonna get to. But even in Mo
Mavma story last season, I thought that guy I was
completely trustworthy and it's like, man, this guy's gonna fuck
us over. So that's the thing where it's just like
we're in the early stages where the rebellion's just an
idea right now, and I think this episode, I think
the andro portion was to show that, and I, like
I said, my least favorite of the stories, but still
very good. And my only nippick was I feel like
in episode one or two that made a big deal
but like knopping out a night because all you'll find
out and then these guys are just out a night
time bickering and having this game. It's like felt like
they were very much hitting on and Or, like you
don't wanta be up there to night and they're just
standing out and about a night time, and so it
felt like a little a little easy for and Or
to get in this situation. But you know, it was fine,
and the at least the the CGI and the Beast
looked good. So I'll take that.
Speaker 2: Oh you got something, just one thing.
Speaker 4: I like, there was like an unexpected amount of comedy too.
I felt displiced into like that specific like little arc
with those characters.
Speaker 2: Like when they're like trying to move the ship.
Speaker 4: It just seemed like such a fucking goofy idea and
like it did work. And in my mind, I'm like,
why don't they just go start like shooting at them,
like they're not gonna keep fucking the sure enough, they
just start shooting.
Speaker 2: It's like, holy fuck everybody, Like.
Speaker 4: And like these characters, I just think some of the
lines that they were doing, they it just seemed a
little goofy, but uh, it didn't feel overly comedic, like
it was just little little sprinkles of comedy in there.
And then you know, we'll get to the ceial stuff too,
because that.
Speaker 2: Was just cold.
Speaker 3: But til Yeah, I think that everything with Andor so
far has been it's been great, and I like that.
You know, at the end of the day, he's obviously
prioritizing his friends like any good rebel would do. Uh hey, Luke,
But I think he just it's it just goes to
show the chaos of just communicating and trying to make
this work in a world where you just you don't
have the ability to just drop on comms because he
was supposed to meet this drop with with uh Porko,
Porko wasn't there. Porko was supposed to fly the ship
and he wasn't there. So now and Or had to
fly this ship and he didn't know how, he didn't
know what he was doing. Uh, And I just like
how it was all super chaotic. That drop just didn't
work out for him, but it he had to improvise,
And yeah, this creature saved his life basically, which is
super cool to see a little bit more of you
having four in this in this light. But yeah, I
think him just taking the ship this advanced tie fighter
and I'm not even sure what those other tie fighters
were called that we saw tailing after him in the
station Jackson Jackson tie Fighters. Yeah, but it was very
very cool, and I like, yeah, I like where he's
kind of progressing as a character. I'm excited to see
where he's gonna go now. And do we know the
time difference between like each three episode arc? Was it
a couple of years leading right up to.
Speaker 1: I know it leads are out of row one. I
don't know within each arc, I think they just said
like and Or covers a certain amount of time, like
the whole show, So I'm not sure if each.
Speaker 4: Art like the length of time frame that's covering. Because
at the start of the episode said.
Speaker 3: Year and four right by four years before? Yeah, but
in between three story in between each story arc, there's
a time period.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the and Or season two will cover up
to four years. The season is divided into four arcs
of three episodes. Uh, and in universe a year will
pass between each episode block, which is.
Speaker 3: What did you say so the next episode, so it'll
be a year later?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 4: Okay, I did not know that, even though I think
I think you said that this episode and I'm like, oh,
that's cool whatever.
Speaker 1: Which I'm interested to see. Yeah, I'm interested see how
that goes because there's multiple storylines which we'll talk about
that I would like immediate reaction on, not a year later,
you know, because we know what happened today. The second
luthor Luthan was looking at a dinner. But still, I like,
it feels weird to have whatever happens to Tay and
then jump a year later. To me, it feels weird
that they're kind of doing this. I would say PTSD
story of BIS and then jump a year later being like, oh,
she's fixed now, she's all good, you know where this episode,
like this arc, she's clearly still very fucked up, Like
she's very much like an assault victim already, right, and
they're probably gonna say like, oh, she killed that guy
and her lost her friend Snapper out of it. But
and that kind of ties into the end of the
end or arc here, and I think there's probably one
other one. But yeah, it feels even just like the
idea of Ma Mafma's darg getting married and jumping here,
like I'll wait and see how that goes, because I
think sometimes that works and shows the movies, and sometimes
it goes, Oh, like I would have really liked to know,
you know, the next day, the next couple of weeks,
what would happen there, because I imagine Luthen would kill Tay
and Ma maf Mo would or do something to him, right,
and Ma MafA would find that out, and she's not
usually a big fan of Luthern's methods, so I feel
like that would be some good stuff. I trust this
team to make it work. And they'll probably talk about it.
It just might feel a little odd where it's like, oh,
if they finally had the discussion a year later. You know,
the same thing with Bigs. I was actually liking the
idea of her trying to struggle to go through here.
But again, there's only one season, so maybe it's okay
for these first episodes we want her to have this arc,
but now she's gonna snap out and be Okay, we
got to kick ass and take down the Empire. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like it's a decision. I'm like, this
is our last season, let's cover everything.
Speaker 1: It was multiple seasons, so absolutely.
Speaker 4: I would have loved all that content spread over multiple
season because I'm just peeking on the show right now.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 4: I think there's some storylines that I agree with more
than others that I like care more about, like the
immediate reactions, like with the wedding stuff and man, Mathma's
daughter there, Like I'm okay with with sitting in a year,
like she she was already pretty like pro empire right.
Speaker 2: From season one.
Speaker 4: Like she she definitely doesn't have the same tendency that
her mom has. And even when we have that great
scene between the two of them. She's like, I wish
you were drunk, you know, mother of mine. You know,
I had a couple of words in there, But for
the most part, she just that's her, that's her thing
that she's aligning with, and she's married into this family
that's questionable method. I think she's gonna be a pretty
not main antagonist, but like a more that side of
like a character, like like a more of an enemy type.
So I am excited to see that jump and just
maybe he's just gonna have a little bit more influence,
not needing you know, the mom's power so much more anymore,
but you know, wait and see I. And then in
terms of yeah, Taye just getting mrked, I feel like
she knew that was happening by the time that she
finished talking to Luthan. Honestly, it's like I told you
this was gonna happen, and like she's just like so
in shock. And then like the dance is going on,
they bring out DJ Robot on the rumba and like
she doesn't have time, the other mom just handing her shots.
Speaker 2: I swear I saw her do like four shots in
a row there.
Speaker 4: So she's feeling pretty fucking all over the place of
that time, and then she doesn't really and the camera
work in the show too, is just so good. But
when she just does like a little look back and
like she just looks like she has so much dread
on her face, and I feel like that was just
like the yeah, she knows, she knows Tay's probably already
in a barrel somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess we kind of got that in
season one where that was the them going back and forth.
But yeah, I wrote down because obviously it probably doesn't
top Luthern's speech last year, because I don't know if
her last season that speech that he gave to that
guy about yeah, you know, sacrifice everything. But the line
of dialogues they had back and forth was luten says,
you'll need to be protected, and she says, I don't
know what you're saying, and he says, how nice for you.
Pretty much just saying that she gets to be a
little naive about what's gonna happen and just kind of go, well,
that's the way it has to go. But I think
that also works towards when we like when we watched
and that's why they don't put in this context, right,
But when you watch episodes four to six, it's an adventure.
It's a good time, but it is the rebellions having
to kill people, right. But I feel like when we
get to that stage, that's when it's at like, this
is all we can do is we have to kill people.
There's no way around this. Like everyone, like I said
the line the sands drawn, and it's like, oh, should
I kill the storm troopers? Like now I'm just gonna
kill them right away and move on where I feel
like this is the part that we're starting get to
that mom Mafma has to realize that, yeah, banking and
backstage politics is something you have to do, but at
one point, you know, the hammer's gonna have to go down.
I think now with that conversation, she's accepted Austin not
liking it is gonna go take some shots because even
they established that in this season again, but in last
season they established it. They were kind of like a
like the one that got away for each other. It
seemed like right that they vothe were in love, but
you know, for political reasons, family reasons. She married her
douchebaker husband and he's with whoever his wife is now divorced,
but sounds like she just left him once the money
was dry, right, So it's like, how much of a
marriage was that really When he's you know saying that,
you know, they said bad investments, it's pretty much just
sounds like because there was questions around the things he
was doing, money was going away or being taken away
and everything. And then you get him just like not
a turn that I was expecting. I thought he was
with us, one of the good guys. But yeah, he
was just pretty much gonna blackmail, you know, in a sense,
he's in sitting way, he's gonna blackmail Mom, Maffman, the
whole crew. Right, It's like, oh damn, like we lost
another one. So that's where I think, same thing. She's
trying to like terrible situation. Right last season, she gets
with this guy like for to make a plan. He
and there's very few people that we know that are
down to try to fuck with the empire. She even
gives up her own daughter to make up this connection,
and she sells her off to pretty much a crime boss.
And then after all that, the guy's like, well, you
know what, I would like a little more money. So
it's just like man like, like every character's going through it.
Don't get me wrong, but I just feel like Mo
Mafma has it the worst. I'll say maybe Bix because
she was beat up and what happened this episode, But
as far as just the stress levels, man, every day
Mom Mafma's way because like at least Bis there's times
where she gets to be with just her people and whatnot.
Right where Ma Mafma. I feel like, you know, twenty
three seven has to have the mask on, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like you can't, like you're acting twenty for seven.
Speaker 4: If you slip up, you're gonna die, Your family might die,
and the whole rebellion might just end. Like there's so
much pressure there. I feel like Luthen is pretty similar.
He's not so much in the same limelight that uh place.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a kid he has to worry about, right,
Like it's just him sure now it's like her kid
is like a bargaining chip with.
Speaker 4: And she's like she's a politician, so like there's there's
metaphorical cameras on her all the time, maybe literal cameras
all the time, and the empire, like she's dealing with
people in the empire all the time, Like, y, yeah,
I think you're one hundred percent dead on with the
thought there that she is under the most stress and
just tension and all of that. Jazz I had something
else to add there, but I just kept going off,
So don't better right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we're here, we's talk about Ma, maf Mozark Taylor.
What are you feeling about? Got that there? You got?
Oh no, I'll bring up something after for you. But yeah,
my mafm Tay Luthen and uh throw out the nice
hair right now. He's got that wig rocking and stuff,
and we got Umile.
Speaker 4: He's always just got like he's like he looks like
he's like a drink and a half in all the time,
Like he just looks so like real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of my favorite things about this
not just with with Mathma. I guess this is of
like other other characters too, But there was so much
going on in these episodes where like I'll try and
find out what I can and so forth. And Luthan
was doing it at at Mon's party where he's just
he's being super charismatic, but he's asking questions like, oh,
you're not from your originally, oh and where'd you grow up?
And just asking these things, but it's all a part
of the larger game, right, getting information and that intel.
And I really like how they're just it's so subtle
and so well done. Now it's in conversation, and so
it's funny when mon Mathma's first introduced here and you see, okay,
you know, it's the wedding and everyone's kind of gathering
or whatnot, and she's like she looks out at something
and that it's like her greeting a bunch of people
and her getting closer to this area. And I was
just like, wouldn't that be funny if it's just Palpatine
just showing up at this wedding and she's just like
looking concerned and she gets the langing pad and what
like in the fucking like you remember, well, you remember
when Luthan she sees something in the distance and she
greets a bunch of people to start and then finally
she shows up to lenning pad. It's Luthen who is
like catching her attention, but just her place like.
Speaker 2: An artifact that the top of a lightning comes up
of his hands. The DJ podcast.
Speaker 1: Fucking snow clone just to hang out for a bit.
Speaker 3: Oh but yeah, I just I really do like how
she's in this position where she's just giving up, well
not giving up, but she's she's she knows what she
has to do with this moment. She needs a night off. Yeah,
and she's just accepting this moment where she knows that
she's probably gonna have to leave her kid behind. She's
probably gonna have to She.
Speaker 1: Can't say her kid. She has her fucking dumb husband
that's always around. She's kind of cross I think she's
crossing the lines. She didn't want to cross as far
as murdering people, right, She wanted to do it, not
an upfront way, but at least a political way. And
she can't do that. So she's like everything that's going
wrong has gone wrong for her in last season and
now this, you know.
Speaker 2: And like it.
Speaker 4: It seemed like that is the last moment she'll ever
like truly be like in the tradition of her like
homeland with her family there, her daughter's like dancing and
smiling like this is just the last of those moments.
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think you're waving me for?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, we go back for Oh you would know
because he said it seems like she probably thinks that.
But you know, this is where Hansel and uh, Princess
Lea get married, so that and she's there at the wedding,
so you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: He spoilers with their daughter, not with their daughter though.
Speaker 1: Yeah that Luca shruck her down, you know, so no,
I'm joking, we don't know that. But it was.
Speaker 2: Jackson, that's who.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Qui gone Jackson gin back as the forest goes.
But yeah, that's the thing. It's it's funny when we
talk about the daughter. She's just kind of oblivious. But
it's not her fault, right because this is where she
grew up. Her dad is not even like in the
middle anywhere, Like he's full on like empire or just
like supports them, Like he's not other killing people, but
he doesn't care. He's just with them. And that's where
it's funny. Like I'm not trying to transition to that
story we'll talk about later, but like the echoes of
the characters, Man Mafma's daughter is very similar to Deidre
in a sense, right, not in the sense of like
the parents' side deed, you're like didn't have any parents
was an orphan, but because she grew up in an
empire camp, that's the way she is, right, because that's
all she know. Those people that fed her taught her
lessons of that's how life is the same thing as
math mom Man Mafma's daughter. You can't really like he
can't blame her in a sense, right, And it's kind
of like too like off. So you could listen because
it's your mom, but it's almost like too late, like
it's your past. The ninth Inning mon to be like,
you know what, if you don't want to get married,
you don't have to. It's like because remember we had
season one and that's when they met, and it's been
a year later. So even though like they talked about
like oh he won't hold my hand and stuff like that,
they're still going with the like young girl infatuated with
a young boy that's like her, that's like rich and
powerful and comes from a family. And so it's like,
I appreciate man trying to do that because that's a
good mother saying hey, you know, it'll be brave and everything.
But at the same point, it's just like it's it's
too late. She grew up in this and you kind
of let her write, and it's not Mon's fault because
if you didn't let her the chance, she might be
killed or something like, right that. So it's just like
Mon is just on such a fucking tight rope what
you're gonna do, and it's gonna be sad because obviously
in the other movies, like, we don't see much of hers.
So I'm hoping one some way that she gets the
daughter back. Obviously don't give a fuck about the husband,
but I hope that works out and maybe the daughter
sees something or she makes a play. But I think
there could be a sad reality where, you know, mam
Moth was in the base and she's with those rebels
in those movies that she literally has to choose to
leave her daughter to, you know, pursue taking everything down,
and that that's what's gonna suck the same thing. I like,
not that they could do this. They can never do
a and Or show after like and Or's dead, but
I'd be very curious, and I wonder if that's why
in the show she will get the daughter back, because
what happens when mom mov was still alive and they win,
and then where's her daughter? Right, because she would just
still be.
Speaker 3: Like Joan is the first order or something like.
Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, like so that's what I'm kind
of a hope that make the daughter will will join them,
but uh, you know, we'll see but shitty situation. But yeah,
Jennivill right, everyone's great in it, but Genivier Riley's just
uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Like while I was watching it because and like something
else I noticed in these episodes. I can't remember if
they did in season one because it's just been so
long since I watched it, but I feel like we're
jumping around a lot in the individual episodes, like we're
just like, I don't know, we're with Bicks, and then
quick cut to like Cassie and his and his rebels,
and then and then it's like nothing even really happens.
They just like say a couple of things, then it
like cuts somewhere else.
Speaker 2: I really liked it.
Speaker 4: Actually, I feel like normally I don't like it, but
it's just like check in with this person what's going
on here?
Speaker 2: Checking with this person what's going on here?
Speaker 4: And it didn't seem like we would just cut away
from like a really important scene. Seemed like it like
the pacing of the drops were really good. And yeah,
that's like, forgot what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: So I agree, I agree in all but it all
all worked out. Is there anything specifically trying to think? Yeah,
Luthen was good. He's always and around and I guess
we talk about Luthen now because yeah, he didn't have
like a Soulo story. He was here. Uh Man was surprised.
He's also he's kind of tying all of them because
he's trying to get updates from Andor and doesn't get anything.
We also got a connection where Mamma's sister, I can't
remember her name, and then the agent that is working
with Lutheran that's.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought they were siblings, their sisters.
Speaker 2: Cousin vibrators going off.
Speaker 5: Here val mom sisters, sisters, okay.
Speaker 1: About her sister, and then Luthen's like little worker there,
that's the one that picked up Tay. So they're kind
of in this, you know, in this like will they
won't they? And they kind of broke off for different reasons.
So again I like Luthen's world because I feel like
Luthen's all pretty you know, he has his loyal soldiers,
but Yeah, Stellon, he's he's always great. He's just literally
in sect when he's just like slinking through those cordrolls
and he's just like he's just like he's like watching
them and stuff. And then like he shouldn't just go
from like you talked about Kirkle like semen drunk, shit eating,
we're in Like you want to punch this guy too.
He will fucking murder you right now if you say
something wrong. And yeah, Stellin's just amazing and I'm so
excited for more Luthen and uh uh yeah, it just
seems like he's just got he's also like my mofa.
But he's got lots on his plate too, spinning things,
checking on people. He's dealing with his wedding, he's doing
a cast and being missing, there's other stuff going on,
and he's like he has to hide his identity too
because he has like a disguise even here, right, So
he's in a similar situation. So yeah, great stuff from Luthen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, Yeah, he's uh, he just commands the
attention of the scene. I really really like that. And
it's funny how his relationship is with his uh associate.
I can't remember her name, but she's she's not afraid
to put him in his place. Yeah, she's not afraid
to put him in his place, right, and she trying
to do shit, and it's just it's it's cool to
see how network to this whole organization really is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Clayas, that doesn't sound right to me. It looks
like her, So there you go.
Speaker 4: That was the other thing I remember that I forgot
to say, what about Mon and just like flushing out
like the questions about her daughter and like just these
like ties that she's just cutting ties with. Like initially,
when you get like the original Star Wars, like you
see all these people in the rebellion and you never
think about like their backstory now. But like when you
get like a good story like this, I feel like
I'm gonna be thinking about not just this character like Mon,
like just all of the other individuals that are just
like like had to uproot their life or just their
family were like murdered by the Empire. Like there's just
so much baggage that's like added on to the pieces
of a story that's already been established with the originals.
Now just the whole rebellion thing, like they're doing such
a good job and just telling like peering behind the
curtain on like what is actually like these human beings
you know, a part of this this war, a part
of this adventure. And yeah, I'm just I'm eating it up.
I'm loving it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else too. From the wedding we've talked about
like Lutheran go on, think there's anything else.
Speaker 2: It looked really cool.
Speaker 4: I thought the ritual was like very culty but also
just beautiful, Like it looked really good. All the dresses
looked really cool. Yeah, I was just I was loving
Then that dance music comes on, Like I'm kind of
ify when it comes to like air quote modern music
and Star Wars, I'm glad there's no like vocals. I'm
just waiting for like a DJ Khaled drop or something,
you know, to like really take this Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Yeah this, Oh you loved her and Mando?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, like I don't know, just just like little
edm beat or something like. I that it's it's getting
close to the line of you know, like out of
Star Wars realm. But I don't think it ever crossed
it for me. I think it was a good healthy
balance and because you have like the traditional dance that
they do between the husband and the wife there and
then yeah, they just come out with the fucking just
the DJ bot. I just thought it was hilarious and
they're all just just going at it and at least
they weren't like torquing or something.
Speaker 2: They're still doing different type of traditional it.
Speaker 1: Star Wars enough for me, I get I get it
as I'm somebody doesn't like modern music as well, and
Star Wars the trailers, but like I feel like it's
still like like like there's a modern thing shoo, but
it's like Star Wars enough where I go, Okay, I
can I can work.
Speaker 3: With this here.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was just thinking about Baron's email the
whole time too, especially at the end when when's just
she's different liquor.
Speaker 1: Right now, she's seeing snokes all over the places, and
her husband they just have Sean him very concerned about her,
like you know.
Speaker 3: Because no he was looking I felt like he's going
to make a move or something like oh there's the wife.
I I knew.
Speaker 1: That's not a good situation. I feel like it's he
thinking might go well, but she's just gonna lay a
bunch of shit on him, but uh, that was only
too I can't remember if we got that in season one.
But he also just called out that he pretty much
like they weren't having a fair yet, but like just
kind of saying like you're gonna have an affair, like
just insinuating stuff about him and her and Tane everything
like that. And that's why I kind of again like
the Anderwer situation, I thought based on season Oh, we're
gonna get there eventually, because you know that her and
her husband are kind of married, just kind of by appearances,
See there's some connection with Tay, but uh, I think
the only connection her and Tay are gonna have is
visiting his fucking gravesite. I guess, you know, I don't
know if there's grave sites and starting mark, they just
seem to burn everybody. You know, we've never seen a
gravesite in Star Wars, have we I know the Jedis
they burn, but like what about the rest of the soldiers.
Speaker 3: We saw one for Shmie Skywalker on Tween.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was like a homemade, like they just
did it on there.
Speaker 4: Like I'm just in Sandwalkers, sand people, not the Sandwalkers.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're looking for a grave. I don't
know if you'd find one. I think the best stars
start two blowing up that was like an honorary because
it's too many bodies to bury it. There's too many bodies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just talking about like all, Like I
guess I'm indoor. The storm Troopers got cooked and eating
because the fucking he walks down on their heads. So
I think they do just burn everybody in Star Wars,
just like I don't think we've ever really dived into that,
like other than SMI I guess i'd say like probably
eighty percent the deaths and barrels are just burning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's a there's a few burials, Like I
don't know to like pull from in my head, but
I'm like.
Speaker 2: There's gotta be like in temporary Jedi episodes disappear.
Speaker 3: No they don't though, Yeah, all the Jedi I disappeared.
Now that's the new canon.
Speaker 1: Now though what happened to Qui Gon Jackson Gin the funeral?
Speaker 2: That's the new cannon.
Speaker 3: Now. They just well they all just turn into the forest.
Everyone knows the way to like eternal life. They all
disappeared in the.
Speaker 1: Start because they burned Vader as well.
Speaker 3: No, that was just a suit. His body just disappeared inside.
Speaker 1: So this suits empty. All the ship's falling apart. Can
you pick up the bolt? That's my father's bolt.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have disappeared. Over one disappeared, but yeah,
quite one. Jin Jackson didn't. And then I'm.
Speaker 2: Trying to disappear. When they burned.
Speaker 1: Him, Yeah, he wasn't worthy enough. They didn't get to disappear.
But we'll crack in that another day. Let's take an
ad break, we'll talk about other stories. We'll be right back,
and we are back. Okay, So we talked about let's
talk about Dedra and the Cereal. I want to go
to Taylor first. It's Tay. We tell abe predictions and
I was like, oh man, I can't wait for some
more sexual activity actions like no, no, we're not we're
not getting that. Oh I don't think we're gonna beget
in just fucking like full on anal scenes or anything
like that. But like they're together, they're fucking living together.
They're mean each other's parents. Oh yeah, but with them,
it's just silent. Though this would be happening when they're
having sex. It's just pure silence, and it's like the
family guy like I'm done, Like it's that type of thing.
Speaker 2: But for the performance this evening, you know, we'll review
it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, could have used more thrusting power in the second minute,
but that's okay. But no, there I was expecting them
to actually cause to me, that was a payoff, right,
he is obsessed with her. I don't think. I actually
don't know how far they're gonna go because we heard
the word rape in Star Wars tonight, which I can
see all of the people being like I don't like that,
which I can't. I wouldn't say you're wrong because that's
a big that's a big leap, and we'll get there.
But that's what it's like. I don't know if we
won't get a sex scene in the Star Wars. But
for me, in season one, I was like, the payoff
has to be them getting together. So Taylor gotta go
to you because he thought, oh, that wasn't gonna happen.
But not only together. Like I said, they're living together,
committed relationship, seem like they're working it all out. She's
pressing his lips, So they're an item.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, they they are an item. I was not
expecting that at all, so that definitely cut me off, Garb.
And it seems like he has no no spine against
his mom or against her, like she's she's calling the shots,
and I like that she put her foot down with
the mom. I was not expecting that scene at all
when the door slid ap, But I was thinking, like, oh,
it is you Palpatine there, every person.
Speaker 1: Let's see how you fuck now.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know it's just the mom popping in
there and having this whole conversation. And then I feel like,
did I blink and miss something? Because he just he
woke back up after laying on the bed and like
walked back in. It was happy that his mom was
complimenting him, Like did I blink and miss? Did he
storm off in one scene here really quick? I just
feel like he was just a room he left the room, okay,
because he was laying on the bed or something like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he was just so stressed out from the
fact of his bum and I think cause he gets
I think what happens is he overhears them talking in
a nice light and he's like, oh, like that's that's odd.
And then when he sits down. His mom's just giving
him nothing but compliments, which I can figure that that
doesn't happen much from his mother before. Right, So I
think just the fact that it was going well took
some some bis off his back, you know, some.
Speaker 3: Picks up his back. Yeah, So I thought that was
it was fun. It really flushes out more of her character,
Dadra and just how she's she's in charge, and she's.
Speaker 2: Very very.
Speaker 3: She's very well versed and very very present in in
how to play things like we'll talk more about it
later with her in credit. But I really liked how
she was just super on point and already knew how
to proceed before the conversation even ended with everyone else talking.
And I feel like that's the same thing here that's
represented and reflected when she the mom is in the
room for thirty seconds and she already knows how to
play this out. She already knows Okay, once there's a
break in the conversation, I'm just going to lay up
the facts here about your your ex or whatever, your
former husband. You don't want his record to be put
out out there. You don't want this to happen, uncle, right.
Speaker 1: The uncle, big difference between uncle and former husbands. You
don't want to get those crossed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everything with that was great, And yes, Cerial
just like walk on this new guy, Like, yeah, I
was in your shoes once and then after mut of work,
I found a whole corrupt ring. Is that was crazy?
But it's just I'm wondering in the long run, Like Deirdre,
I can see how her character will be impacting the
story moving forward, But with Cyril, I have no fucking
idea how like is he going to be compromised? Like
is he going to be the one to kill her
or do something to her? Like?
Speaker 1: I think no, I think they both go down with
the ship because he is already when she was.
Speaker 3: Going to kill him some and.
Speaker 1: Or sure and or like somebody, I'm on off, she's gonna.
Speaker 2: That that lady that was driving away.
Speaker 1: With I'm your new driver, sir.
Speaker 3: You know you.
Speaker 4: Don't see the death scenes. It's just it's always her
like I'm your new driver now.
Speaker 1: She's just the Anton Sugar of the Star Wars universe.
You just know it's over. But yes, I agree, like
she's probably into some quite the big dominatrix stuff, But
uh no, because I just feel like the second she
got back, he's like, oh, how's that thing that you like?
I'm paraphrase, but how was that thing you can't talk about?
And she's like, oh, it was short, and it seemed
like he wanted to pry more. And it's so funny.
At one point they did this shot where he's like
looking down and he looked like very concerned. I was like, oh,
did she leave something out that you could see? But
then they go and it's just a plate and a
fork and the fork's like a little like move and
he's like, oh, yeah, fix it. So I thought, oh, fuck,
he's finding some fas. But I think that he's going
to be inquisitive of what she is working on, and
I don't think he's gonna be like how could you say? Like,
I don't think he's a guy that's going to be
like whether it's death Star plans, whatever is I only like,
how could you be doing this? Like he seems like
a pretty fucked up guy. I just wonder if he
might indirectly get her in trouble or he'll decide, oh,
I'm gonna help you with this, and hey, maybe the him,
maybe him knowing the information will be the death them both.
I know too. You don't think Vader is there, but
everyone's ad screenshot of for getting choke like either mad
or getting choked right, and fuck Vader, could there go Vader?
Vader kills Cyrial in a second.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know why Vader would be well, yeah,
Vader killing Cyril. That's way too overkilled because he just he.
Speaker 1: Just met Siriah's like, I need to fucking kill this
guy right now, and he goes and chow harder daddy,
and it gets really awkward er.
Speaker 3: After a few months. You know, you could find a
corrupt crime ring, yeah, or maybe he's in the deer Ja.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know what, I gotta I gotta get
out over padme somehow, and this is what it's gonna be.
And she denies them. But now I think there's a way.
I don't think they make it out. I think a
lot of these characters don't. We're gonna lose a lot
of people, Like Osander's gonna make it. Cranic's gonna make
it when we meet the robot k twos so he's
gonna make it. But the rest of these characters, like
I'm not saying everyone's gonna die, But like I think
you kind of have to write them off. So they
could just easily be he could be escorting or two
like some sort of mission or something like that, because
he's still working for the Empire in a like police
esque role, right Like, So it's I could just see
there's being some case or something where they link up together,
have to work together, and it goes terribly. So I
don't think either of them are killing each other in
my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I could see them living on past the show and
just never spoken about it again.
Speaker 1: Get off show.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, fuck I would be. I would be so
down for that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I this is like just the whole three
episodes are just peak for me.
Speaker 2: But this was just like I was eating this up.
Speaker 3: I was just smiling.
Speaker 4: I was laughing like as soon as like the first
time we see Cereal and he's like in like the
menagerial role for like the same dynamic between this like
new guy who was him.
Speaker 2: And he's just like such a keener. He knows all
the rules and.
Speaker 4: Here and he's just like leaving this guy and then
like someone that's working like looks at them and he
just like snaps at him like get.
Speaker 1: Back to work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I just think this is such a fun dynamic
for for Ceial to be, for Cerel to be in Cereal.
I couldn't remember exactly what happened like between, Like I
knew he saved Adra in that event at Feryx, and
like I I kind of remember them sharing a look
or something, but like I couldn't remember what happened after
it because she was.
Speaker 1: Just surprised he kind of like put his life on
the line.
Speaker 4: But to say that to the first time we see
him together like living together and later.
Speaker 2: True, Yeah, no, very true.
Speaker 1: A lot of time has passed. I think she's just
like she knows this guy, no matter what's loyal to him,
and I think she just gets off, yeah, being obsessed
and she he just fucking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it just struck a kink, you know, for her,
she's just totally I can strap on, we can do this, okay.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I also just feel like Dadra I just
assumed she's like like just a stone robot villain character,
where like she just lives in like a just a
stone room.
Speaker 2: With like she kind of does like it's very like
it's going.
Speaker 1: I just mean the appearance of it, it looks like
a fucking model home. Because even the mom when she
walks in, she's like, oh, this is not exactly what
I was expecting, Like it just looks like it's a
fucking army camp, which I forgot to mention that mom.
Do you guys remember the I can't remember the character's name,
but she's the worehouse from Poor Things?
Speaker 3: Was Harry Potter wib too.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, not what I pull from, but yeah, oh
she's the one that I was fighting Emma Stone.
Speaker 5: After.
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta rewatch again because she just
that voice but she yeah, under that robe. We'll take
it off later. But uh no, she was great. She
was great, just playing like an annoying But what I
liked about that dynamic was because I wasn't sure if like, Okay,
he's saved her, but is it just a situation where
she is just with someone that's pathetic and that's loyal,
but she's gonna still treat them like shit. But she
kind of like stuck up for him with the mom situation, right,
that's not something I was expecting. So it seems like
they actually have a bonnet. It just seems like they're
both kind of off and evil in their own ways,
but they just kind of get each other, which I
wasn't sure. I thought we could just get her, you know,
kind of pussy footing around and using him to her event,
but never really like not putting out, not doing that
type of stuff, like not caring about him. But like
she seems like they said at one point, she like
rubbed his lips and he even said like, hey, like
we don't have to do it. We didn't know who
the meeting was, but he's like, oh, we can lie
and say you're not here, and she's like, oh no,
let's do this, like you know, wanting to meet the mom.
And she's just like changing all our outfits to figure
out which is the best one.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what their smile or like practice
smile that.
Speaker 1: Was, which to me, I was like, Oh, I didn't
even think that character would care about that. And that's
where I don't know for sure. I don't think it's
gonna happen, but I would not there's a five percent
of me that could see her turning good. I don't
think it's gonna happen, but with them giving her like
a somewhat sympathetic backstory of parents said at three, because
it's not like, oh, she's chosen to be evil, like
I said, She's been raised that way. It was almost
against her will where she was dropped in the can.
So it's like if she was dropped in a camp with,
you know, on someone on the rebellion side, she would
be with them, maybe right, I don't know for sure,
but they gave her that. And also when they with that,
meaning with Creanis, she seemed a little everyone was like
really juicing, like it's all these old guys are like
smiling looking like, but she seemed like conflicted about it
a little bit. I don't know what it could be
a business thing, but I'm wondering what's gonna happen there.
Speaker 3: So she didn't want the gig right because it was
just she saw it as beneath her and she was
more focused on what she her main project.
Speaker 1: Was or access.
Speaker 4: And also she's like propaganda can only get you so far,
like yeah, to fucking drop the hammer, Like I feel
like she's like just purge of the planet. That just
fucking does Like why do we have to like dance
around the park Danna Gate? Maybe I read into that wrong.
I'm in the camp. I think she's like one hundred percent.
Like they're both one hundred percent empire, ride or die
like till the end of their days. I think that
what So, I yeah, I love I love the Dadra
serial dynamic for so many reasons, but I I just
one of the key ones is it's just so intriguing
to see a relationship of two people that are in
the Empire and they're not like waning on like secretly
rebellion or something like, they're just in the Empire and
this is just a relation. Like I didn't even think
that was a possible thing. I thought they're just stormtroopers,
like you know, like they're like clones. They just hey,
stop right there, like just like like the NPC lines,
Like that's how I see the Empire.
Speaker 2: So seeing a show like this that we can get a.
Speaker 4: Glimpse into just what their home life is is like
they have anxieties, they have uh they're like sex, Yes,
they're sexual. They they don't want to do their job
sometimes like well, you know what, I guess we're both
getting a reminder into the chain of command. Like I
I think everything danger in cerial for me is one
hundred percent, which is good. I'm fucking level with this
when I already mentioned it, like the first time we
see Cerel, but when we go to the house sequence
and you just see danger there the opera's going off,
door opens and fucking Cyril walks in, Yeah, that was
one hundred percent of me. I was so fucking I'm like,
let's fucking go, let's get the home life of these
two characters. Cyril started from the bottom from last season.
Now he's like living with this lady that he was
just idolizing.
Speaker 2: And obsessed with. He was going like, yeah, so he's
my dream.
Speaker 1: He won.
Speaker 4: I'm loving it, especially from where I was on the
character in season one. I'll have to listen back to
the reviews because I'm pretty sure I was like, who
the fuck is the serial character? Why are we spending
so much time with him? I hate him, but I
he's like a meme for me now, but not even
because I'm actually liking the storytelling around him and the
layering of the anxiety dynamic, Like that's that's not a
thing that we had to tackle in the show. It's
about the rebellion, but like we just added on this
layer to the character. So there just another example on
I think excellent just storytelling and writing for for what
this show is doing.
Speaker 1: Well, not even the show, it's for Star Wars, right,
Like that example of anxiety, I don't think they've really
if they've touched upon it, it's been to a minute degree.
And this is a big thing, which again I could
see someone watchmans be like, why do I need to
see people are dealing with this because people could also
try to like, which I think is good because it
fleshes that side out. But some people might argue why,
like that makes them somewhat sympathetic, right of like oh,
this guy who's stressing out because his mom's around. I
want to think about the Empire shreds say, I just
want them to be gunned down, right, But I think
it fits in this type of show. That's where I
agree where this might be tough to do in like
a mainstream level right to get like those billion dollar
you know what, which even then, like, I feel like
the most they could do with the hey make someone
sympathetic on the bad side is what they did with
Kylo w Ren and it. But maybe I'm speaking myself
against it because who does everyone think the most interesting
character of the sequel trilogy is Kylo ren right, and
that was a character who was like a massacre terrorist guy,
took hundreds of lives. But because this little girl, pretty
girl show hi effects, She's like, well maybe I'm not
like I could I could be the good guy, you know,
I could be Ben Sol again. So I think people
like those stories. And anxiety is something that's like way
more prevalent nowadays than it is, but it's something that's
not directly talked about in the space wars and stuff,
so it's a whole new front. So oh god, I'm
betting after the Times they have a baby, I thought
they were maybe gonna talk about that with the mom.
I I don't think I want that storyline because I
think that gets tougher into the situation where these characters,
as much as we love them, they should die, right
They you know, protrude racism as far as like who
they're with. They want to just kill innocence. So my
problem is if you interested, there is like a that
is an interesting concept because it's almost like Deirdre and
Mom Offma's daughter where you could see a that's where
maybe I would want that in a show that was
like a season starting off with a baby and then
at the end and you see the child grow because
I don't know if I want to be rooting for
the death of a kid, right, But if you could
get to a situation where it's like, oh, you see
this kid grow up and now they're just like a
Joffred from Game of Thrones, like yeah, fuck this person.
But with this timeline, with four years, the child would
only get to three, and it's like, do I want
to be rooting for this child to become an orphan?
That's where I'm tough, But I'm not saying Mike, you're wrong.
That dynamic would be completely amazing. It'd be interesting to see.
But again, I think that'd be better in a show
where that didn't get Okay, you only got one season
to tackle four years. I think it could be too much.
But that would be an interesting situation for those two.
So and actually know, she wouldn't be the stay at
home mom. He'd be the stay at home mom. She
ain't staying home.
Speaker 2: Did you see him like chopping and everything? He's like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gordon Ramsey's gonna be all over him, you know,
So yeah, totally anything else on these two before we
move on.
Speaker 2: I really like that sequence.
Speaker 4: I just liked the whole setup on Like I'm just
assuming he's gonna just open up with we're building the
Death Star, you know, just just just like the classic
like everybody knows. But he shows us like what reminded
me of like a Starship Troopers like propaganda video, and
it's like the only good bug is a dead bug.
Like they're showing all these like spiders. I can't remember
the planet's named Gorgon. I want to see that Gorman,
thank you. Yeah, And it was just an interesting setup
because I'm like, where are they going here? Like with
this with these spiders, like is saying spider silk is
like what they shoot out of the desk Star, Like
what the fuck's going on? But just it's it's like
the Dune, you know, the spice is the ultimate limited.
Speaker 2: Power in the galaxy. So so that's what we're gonna
get from here.
Speaker 4: I like the just the building up around it because
we're getting a lot of time jumps. I was gonna say,
I don't think we would actually go there, but I
probably are now if we're jumping time, like we're gonna
be getting underway on like the actual taking.
Speaker 3: Over of.
Speaker 1: Base operations have been set up and everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, absolutely, but uh, I mean, I what's
his name, but I want to say Ben Ben Mendelssohn,
Ben Mendlssohn, thank you. I I love him, and like,
I feel like he's not in like super Stellar projects,
at least from.
Speaker 2: What I've seen, but I I just there's some about him.
I just I just love him.
Speaker 4: And in this character where he like I don't know,
he's he's like charming but also scary. I mean, we've
seen him before, but I think that's just a good
character trait from him. And yeah, good to see him
in something not Gaya related.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something bit better. Yeah, No, I'm interesting to see
where it goes. I like send of the comedy of
those guys been like why do you think Gorman Naxaway,
why do you think the people are like this? And
mans like okay, wait fair enough? Almost like it was
like a fourth wall type of breaking joke. And I
liked the idea of credits saying that he was the
one that recommended her. So like to see that dynamic
and that was a character that again because I'm of
the opinion of Rogue One. The one of the reasons
I don't like that movie is the verse of the show.
There's so many characters you don't get enough of. That
was a character that I enjoyed but want more of.
We're in a show even we only got on one
episode here, but hopefully we'll get him multiple times and
you can again flesh out because you have the time.
You have, you know, twelve hours. Again, he was only
in I don't know what under ten minutes in one episode,
so I'm hoping it increases a little more in the future.
But again hopefully just make stuff that going into Rogue one,
which I'm gonna rewatch after I get here. By At
the same time, it doesn't help the other characters, but yeah,
excited to see him and see where we go. Well,
the Empire drop or Emperor drops tailor from he so
I just talked to the Emperor yesterday.
Speaker 3: So yeah, just talk to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Everything with with Krenik was was really really enjoyable. Really
liked that, and I liked how big thing that they
they're doing these things in secret under Colonel yr Laren
and even Grandma of Tarkan, which is fucking huge because
grandmof Tarkan is like second in command of everything imperial.
Speaker 2: I mean he's up.
Speaker 3: There with Vader. I mean, Vader doesn't fit into the
natural ranking of things. He's just he's outside of the
chain of command, but he just has authority where Grandma
Tarkan he's in that chain of command and he's got
that authority, and he's on par with with Vader, whether
you like it or not. I mean that's just that's
from a new hope. The two of them have kind of.
Speaker 4: Understanding the Invader though, right like like he's he's like, oh,
he tells Vader what to do too, and he's like
a more political side of it, where Vader's just a
thunder night with the powers saber you take.
Speaker 1: You just look at episode four. Vader's is an attack
dog in that movie, right, Like he's not like like
obviously the I think Comix games, the prequel stuff, they
add more to where Vader ranked how important was to Palpatine,
but those first even Empire, Like, I guess he's leading
the charge, but he's still kind of doing his own thing,
right Like he's not. It's not he's not in the
system like he said so no.
Speaker 4: And then sorry, just the details for Kreinic says, because
he says, like this is basically Emperor is like the
only person that knows about this other than people in
the room.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, okay, right?
Speaker 1: Were they in any in that Tarkan didn't get that?
Speaker 2: He said that.
Speaker 3: They'll figure it out later. Yeah, which is which is
I love that. That's just that's crazy that they're willing
to keep them at bait. But it also goes to show,
I mean, Krenick doesn't like Tarkan for obvious reasons that
we see later on. Yeah, with Rogue one, absolutely, so
that's that's very foreshadowy. But it just really great at
development with the with the narrative, which is.
Speaker 1: Before he continue is it is interesting? Do you think
he did one hundred meet the Emperor or is that bullshit?
Speaker 3: I think he met the Emperor.
Speaker 1: Do you think he talked to the met the Emperor
via in person or via a hologram.
Speaker 3: Though it would have been hologram in the Thron books.
This is much of a spoiler. At the time when
Krenik was like really pushing for Startus, he had Thron
pushing for his tie Defender program. The two of them
were like butting heads, and the Emperor was involved with
this a little bit too, and then you had uh
Yularen and Tarkan mostly target involved with these kind of
who'sy Lauren? Colonel Laren So he was in the first
season The Van Door, and he's kind of like leader
of the is B, and he played a heavy role
in the Clone Wars. He basically served right underd Evannakin
Skywalker in the Clone Wars.
Speaker 1: So I was just asking because it's not negative for me,
but I remember in that scene with Rogue One when
he's talking to Vader and he's like, oh, so you'll
tell the Emperor about me or about this planet kind
of felt like Krenik had not been gone to that
level yet where he had conversated with the Emperor. So
I want to see if that tracks in the future,
if it's for sure like not saying he sure hadn't
talk to Like I'm just wondering, did he get orders
from Palpatine and he takes his like, well, I've spoken
in the Emperor. But really it's like if a guy
sends you a note or a Haulgram like recording, that's
not speaking to him, right, Because in Rogue One, he's
kind of acquiring the vader like he's trying. It feels
like he's trying to edge his way to get closer
into their their their ring of trust or their circle
of trust. So just caught me off guard that he
seems so kind of chummy with the Emperor in this episode,
which I'm not saying it's wrong to drop those references
because that would be the one because he just said, Hey,
if anything leaves this room, well no, it's these people,
and you're gonna you're You're dead. You're fucking dead, you know,
because the Emperor. You're gonna be brought to the Emperor's
knees and done.
Speaker 4: Anyone's gonna say it's like you're gonna get killed or tortured,
but it's like, you're just to be brought to the emperor.
And I'm like, man, that is the worst case scenario,
Like that is what Biggs went through, but times a
thousand probably.
Speaker 1: Turned into snoke. You know in two for years, you're
broughting me sucked of nutrients and like exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean, and just like the whole I guess air
quote Chumminess that he's like talking about the Empire. It's
like we're fucking buddy buddies. We we you know, we
we rub elbows. I I just feel like that's also
kind of how most imperial people talk about, like the emperor,
because they're always trying to like like like just change
yeah exactly, Like they're they're they're they're posturing essentially like yeah, exactly,
thank you peacocky, and they're they're just putting it.
Speaker 2: Out there that they're just so much better than everyone else.
Speaker 1: And that's what it seems like the trait to me,
mendel Sin like it didn't feel like that was a if.
It's like, oh my, I know a guy, you know,
do you like?
Speaker 4: I still I still feel that just the weight of
his words were like they had weight to them when
you would just talk about the emperor, because it's just like,
oh my god, it's the emperor.
Speaker 2: Like fuck if he's if he's right, and like I
do fuck.
Speaker 4: Up here and I have to go answer the emperor
like that is that is like going to hell essentially
in the especially for the for the empire. So yeah,
I just love I guess the way that the threats
were kind of in a very imperialistic way of like, well,
you know, you'll have to just speak to him. Not
you're gonna get fucking brain mushed by by your chieve.
Speaker 3: You have to see if anyone would like call your bluff.
It's like a bluff charge.
Speaker 2: I don't believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone shouts that out.
Speaker 2: What Emperor the Rooms throws a tomato in his video.
Speaker 1: Spiders the best you got his spiders? Something else on that.
Speaker 3: Note, like the spiders and like the minerals that they
want to mine and Gorman. I think that's really it
just is so fitting with everything because with the Death
Star in his development and Krenick just seeing a new
opportunity to increase its production and construction and whatnot and
just pursuing that. I really like that. And hell yeah
they don't care about what happens to an indigenous population.
But I like how they're really trying to play this
out carefully, because I mean, they have to spin a
narrative and they got to play it out smart because
this is obviously a very politically powerful planet that they're
dealing with in the Senate and there's a lot going
on here. So I like all that, all of that dynamic,
but it just it always takes me back to when
they exterminated all the Genosians to keep the plans the secret,
and they were building the death Stars. So I love
all that kind of shit, and this is just another
thing where they're just trying to do it.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck. If you if you're a
living on a planet and you see someone's sitting up camp,
it's Empire. Just move out of the move out of there, immediately,
immediately get out of there.
Speaker 2: Leave so we're gonna go though, Like they just control
the whole gun, see right.
Speaker 1: Well you hope you can just move right If it's
just this where they're just like, oh, we're just here
to you know, run an operation. It's not like you're
under siege, I would just say, yeah, let's let's gotta
have her obviously, like with Biggs, which was do anything
else on Kreannick or anything there, Deirdre, so we can
move on to Bix there in that situation when they're
there to do an investigation off, so you can't leave
or move because you're not supposed to go. Communications are
shut down, so just bad And yeah, I can never
I always fucking butcher name a Drone, Adrea, Drona or whatever,
what the fuck? Gon see it when I see it.
I can say it better.
Speaker 3: Ada.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adria, Adria Arona. She she just like last season
was fantastic. I can't wait to see what all she does.
I I still on the Katie O'Brian kick, but I've
seen people suggest her as wonder woman and I wouldn't
be mad about that at all either. She's just so
good and this was This was interesting because again, just
like the anxiety we don't like, I think we see small,
very mainstream versions of like I think you'd argue Luke
in episode eight kind of has like a mini version
of PTSD, right with Kyla Wren not wanting to get apprentice,
but it's very like surface level. But this is like
just sounds she's having dreams, just the sight of that
guy walking home. Yeah, it's like, oh my god, because
she isn't no, they could be there at Kidnapper, they
could know exactly who she is, whatever it may be.
It's like, man, and she sells it so well because
I think that must be like a hard thing, because
like it's maybe people have gone through that and she
could pull from that. But everybody has post traumatic stress disorder,
So it's like, how do you show that and not
come off as kind of goofy and just like, Okay,
you're really shaking up and you're supposed to do it
also in a scene where you're playing it up that
you have this disorder going on, but you're also supposed
to be playing at cool. And kudos to the guy
that did play the Empire agent because he just played
him so slimy and sleazy. Did like such a great job,
and yeah, I knew what they were doing, and lots
of great stuff here. Of they had that guy who
was like, I can't remember that the friend they lost, and.
Speaker 3: Or and her friend Brass and I think.
Speaker 1: He's working at like that shop or whatever, and they
have that friend again, same thing. I thought we could
trust him. He turns or in that situation too, where
it's like, eh, is it worth my faking it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was faking it because they nodded afterwards like
he was doing it to keep his shop owner like
free of any any flames or whatever.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out for Brasso then, so I miss
I must have missed the headshakes. So I just thought
this guy's complete asshole, So I must have missed that.
Speaker 4: He did smirk, and I'm like he's fucking like sinister
this guy. And then and then it goes to Brasso
and he's kind of smirking too. I'm like, okay, they're
in on it together.
Speaker 1: It's like a stone colding like fuck her. But okay,
that's okay, that's good enough because I did like that.
Speaker 3: Character spoke to the Emperor to.
Speaker 1: That's the line everybody chops. You know, me and the
Emperor we talked about shop workers. But okay, that's good
enough because I did like that character, and it was
a smoke obvioesty to make out for him. But when
that gets up later on, when bixes alone and that
guy comes back and they're having him attack her, and
they do do him outent where she's like she falls
on the table and he goes behind her, but he's
not like like it's clearly to me. It's like they're
implying that he's trying to sectually insault her, but he's
not like spreading her legs. He's not unbuckling. And she's like, Okay,
this is as far as we're gonna go. And you
can do the subtext into that, right, like it's very
obvious subtexts. But still they're not gonna go that far
like a watch like think about Watchman when the comedian
like clearly like he's taking her clothes off. They didn't
like that. But then later on she beats the ship
with the wrench that fucking Empire ground the car just here.
At any point, if I hear one yell like don
I mean he's going you all right, dude, like it's fine.
But then he just walks out dies and she he
pulls a gun, and when she says he was trying
to rape me, I was like, holy shit, not even
like he was attacking me, he was gonna hurt me.
The fact that she actually said rape. This is why
I guarantee people like a felony that like who like
are with George, Like maybe George would like that. So
Flowian is like, yeah, you can't be saying that in
Star Wars. But like I was, I was surprised they
they use that word. I'm not saying as a negative.
I just could not believe. That's why I was like, Wow,
they have leveled up in a way, not as far
as like that makes them cool, just saying as far
as like this, that's as adults to me as you
can get as set, because like, murder happens all the
time the stars, right, a sexual assault you would have
told like the people watching Star Wars and the adies, like, hey,
at some point they're going to a TV show and
it's gonna have like a rape attempt. It's like and
they're gonna talk. It's like, that's fucking crazy. So kudos
to them. I'm surprised they went that far. But that's
how just heavy this show is. And everything with the
Biggs character I'm enjoying. I love the actress in the role,
and I liked that that planet was great, all the shots.
So yeah, everything here with the characters was just ass
for me, probably probably my second favorite story. I have
a bunch of I was ranking them, so you know.
Speaker 4: What this whole like whatever they're at, whatever planet Throwngs
reminded me of is actually Rebel Moon. It did with
the grains and the grains and the like the inspection
like just like yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely shouts out to Killa do it? No,
I I mean, because what episode of this happened? Was
this the third episode three attack?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I think it was episode well, probably episode one honestly,
but just as I'm watching it, I'm like, man, this
whole show just feels so different than every other Disney's,
especially Disney plus Star Wars project, but like pretty much
just all these Star Wars projects, because it's just it
feels more mature. It's not it's not like only for adults,
it seems, but it's just like, I don't think kids
would be interested in this. And then in episode three
it gets to that and I'm like, man, like, they're
really insinuated here. This is gonna be like an attempted
rape sequence, and I'm like, that is just so like
dark for a Star Wars universe. I'm liking it because
it's more on the mature side. It's a different, just
side of Star Wars that we've never seen before. And
I just feel like it's a it's a realistic, fucked
up thing that happens so like to not like sugarcoat it, like,
oh yeah, it was just trying to take her credits,
you know, like like just some fucking childish type thing
that we probably would have gone in the past. It's
a very real sequence and I'm like, man, that is
a really well done scene that they just implied it.
And then, as you said, Travis, like she actually said
the word he tried to rape me. I'm like, holy fuck,
we're doing it. People were actually evolving in Star Wars.
We're making it feel like Star Wars.
Speaker 1: But again going up with it, you could never put
that in a two hundred million dollars Star Wars movie.
Definitely like Kyl try to rape me, like all the
kids with their little buckets and lightsabers, you know. And
that's where.
Speaker 4: I understand why you wouldn't have that and tell her budget, Phil,
I don't think I would want that because that's for
kids and family and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And imagine and Grogu and Mando just drops that. You know, Yeah,
I'm gonna change change the mood big time with Grogu.
Speaker 4: So but like you know, a TV series, this is
the perfect time to have a different side of him.
More darker side is something that I probably would have
expected Accolade to be more on, like this level of mature.
I'm not saying that has to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did not get at all just with that.
Speaker 4: Dark things like some fucking brutal murders or something like,
let's let's get it going, let's mature up like we can.
Speaker 2: We can handle it.
Speaker 4: People so yeah, I think everything in this planet sequence
was just fantastic, rest in peace brass. So for a
character that I really didn't care that much about, like
in the greater scheme of just Star Wars, and just
not very memorable for me, like when when the season started,
Like when I watched my recap video, I don't think
that guy appeared in a single minute of my recap.
Speaker 2: I think that I watched before season.
Speaker 1: One I and the one I watched was like.
Speaker 2: I watched like a seven minute one because I watched, I.
Speaker 1: Watched a two minute one, but it didn't give me enough.
I'm on MOFMA because I won more on that. So
I watched than a seventeen minute one that I skimmed
through because there's stuff I realized. But then it was like, oh,
and he saved his friends and he was a part
of like the friends, like highlight reel of the people
he had saved. It was like her him the robot,
and I was like, oh the robot wasn't season one,
so yeah, that's all the same thing. And many recaps
did not have that character.
Speaker 4: So yes, So I for a character that completely did
not remember at all, I was like pretty much in
tears like when Cassian found him, and just I think
it's mostly just Diego Luna just like selling the scenes
so much more. I'm just thinking about like all of
these things that Diego Luna, Diego Luna, Cassie and Andor
has specifically had to sacrifice, like on this rebellion journey
that he didn't even want to join and now he's
just getting thrown in the mix with it. And to
just see his like basically family member there just dying
and knowing that he can't even bury, can't even burn him.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna bury him because they don't do that
in this universe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't burn him, can't.
Speaker 2: Even bring his body with him, like, can't even really
have a moment.
Speaker 4: They just got to get the fuck out of there,
and to just like, yeah, I I it was such
a heavy scene, really really quick, but really really effective.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought it was really cool.
Speaker 4: And just like the grain mills like floating or whatever,
they had like just suspended grain silos. It's like, yeah,
this looks like Earth, but it's different because it's you know,
we don't have floating grain silos like these guys do.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: The show was fucking great and that was just another
part part that's great about it, mister Field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything that Bix has gone through, it just it's
crazy up to this point where she's dealing with this now,
after the fact of having to put those headphones on
and being tortured for hours listening to the screams of
like annihilated species that the Empire has wiped out, Like fuck,
I want to.
Speaker 2: Hear the most annoying sound on the that was her headphones.
But dumb and.
Speaker 3: Dumber's Yeah, it's just it's she's gone through so much
crazy shit, So yeah, just to her her being in
this position now where she's dealing with this ship is
just brutal. But the actress is phenomenal. She just totally
sells this, this role of PTSD and and everything. It's crazy.
So I think that, uh, I think that it's it's
it's just, yeah, something is very new for Star Wars.
I mean, you're right, you're not gonna see something like
that in a movie where they are talking about rape
because that's little kids and all that kind of stuff there, and.
Speaker 1: What popcorn buckets of that movie.
Speaker 3: You know, no, no, sir or not.
Speaker 1: So yeah, could you imagine. I can. I can probably
already see hit pieces already in the coming weeks. But
I just feel like, yeah, it's like kids shouldn't be
watching this in general because I just feel like it
wouldn't be entertaining. But you know, I guarantee I can
see lots of people not liking that because it's I
think for some people that's a tough thing. Where Star
Wars is a world of escapism, right, and you bring
in sexual assault that brings it to a different degree.
Not saying that's good or bad. That's up for the
user to decide. For me, it's fine, but it's like
and saying thing too if you're somebody that's suffered that
or notes and I do know people's suffer that's so
it's not like I guess I think it might impact
you more if it's happened. If you're watching Star Wars,
that might not be the place where you want that condition.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You're thinking of like a oh An a twenty four
movie or some like you know HBO show you just
watch and or even with it being darker, you still
watch it. We're like we're taking down space terrorists right
where now it's talking about that. It's like, I'm just
in general shock that it got through in my opinion,
not saying good or bad, just like I'm surprised that
they saw that, and Lucas almost like, you can keep
like the attack, but you can't have her say that
because the scene could play the exact same way, right
if you cut her that line. But the fact they
let it in there was you know, it definitely balls you.
And in a way where we've talked about is that
good or bad that can be decided for the user
in an era where Star Wars and Disney has not
really been that the bowl as far as choices, right,
they don't take him any swings. They've played it very
safe and stuff. So it's it's odd to see, you know.
Speaker 4: So have some kahonas. It was weird to see if
my Disney plus watermark on the bottom right corner of
my screen, it was, yeah, man, this is Disney.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Michael has a little robot. He's like the stars Wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like him too.
Speaker 3: I hope he too.
Speaker 1: I don't think he made on the venture though, right,
did he make it on the ship?
Speaker 2: I don't think he's he's on the planet. He's chilling
with Brasso's girlfriend or something. Yeah, I didn't really.
Speaker 1: Think that's taking me because what like when't the like
they the remaining stormtroopers look at him as like he
was someone bad, right, like he's feeding information? Can't so
when they isn't his girlfriend wife whatever?
Speaker 4: I don't think that's what it was though, Like I
think when they rated out, it's just he's an illegal
and they're like, Okay, we got arrest illegal, so that's
what we're doing. Like it's not like this guy is
a rebellion person, because really that much about the rebellion
right now, Like isn't it kind of a spook story?
Like yeah, Dre was under some flak from that last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were looking into they're trying to find Luthan,
but they just think I think, yeah, Axes is like, uh,
I watched that recap too. I think they're just like
a specific like, Okay, there's a group of people, but
like that girlfriend of his, is she illegal or is she from?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I think she was local because okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Still like she would have fled she was to day
for her though, everyone's gone and I guess she's got
the robots, so everyone's gone.
Speaker 3: But I think that that's where it's gonna end. I
think the casting has not taken the full attention away,
Like Brasso's body is still laying there, so they're probably
just gonna see him and think, oh, no, he just
got shot in the crossfire because this random tie Fighter
showed up and just took out a silo, blew up
like a small convoy of our troops and just fucked.
Speaker 1: It was not it was not my candor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sweet ship too. Is that like a brand new
design thing? Is that like something that's been known in
the start, because it didn't look like at first. I
just thought it was, oh, this is just the tie
Fighter that we remember seeing from the original Star Wars,
but this is just an early version of it. But
when he's on that planet, like you get like kind
of like a rear view of it, and it looked
like a totally different shape.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big you know, starship.
Speaker 4: I like them, but I'm not as I don't know
all the part numbers like t other Field does. So
I was gonna ask the expert.
Speaker 3: Yes, because they changed up its origin a little bit.
It was a tie Avenger, so it did exist beforehand.
And then they they switched it switched out its its
origin stories. But yeah, there's a few cool ties. Like
I said, the other tie fighter that we saw in
this episode, which I don't know what the name is,
but it looked like what the Inquisitors would fly and
Star Wars rebels actually if I'm being specific, but I
don't think that's the same same one. But there was
a fancy prototype lap.
Speaker 4: That was pretty sweet. I like when he walks in,
he's like, what the like, what do I even do?
And then the seat just kind of unfold just I
don't know, look all spick and span and fancy, and yeah,
just looked fucking hard to drive, unintuitive, but yeah, Cassie
was kind of figuring out when he shows up to
the planet initially, and like his auto lock on thing
just kind of like, is that like a star destroyer
way off in the distance. They look way too small
for it. Is it actually locked on? I'm like, he's
gonna fucking shoot at that thing? He's just this is
the prototype. It's like a mini death Star on that thing.
He blew op in the bay door to see what
he could do to this thing, and then he just
shoots down. I'm like, kid, that's probably a smarder idea.
Speaker 1: He's like, fucking po it's a dreadnaught take down the
star Destroyer by himself.
Speaker 3: Shoot, what was I gonna say?
Speaker 4: Shit? Oh my god, Tie Fighters Advanced Fighters, the tech.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, I got it. The one rocket trooper
that was just sitting there. Fuck the balls on.
Speaker 1: That guy.
Speaker 4: Cemented in place like a turret and he was just reloading, like,
oh yeah, I'll.
Speaker 2: Fucking stare you down, Tie Fighter. I respect that guy.
He had like a cool little like fur coat thing too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The last time we saw those guys were in solo
on the train heist sequence, same armor and everything like that.
Speaker 4: And the best part about that movie, I'm sure, Yeah,
I've never.
Speaker 1: Heard that before anything else for I check my notes,
but I think I got everything.
Speaker 4: I just shout out Diego Luna just tremendous acting when
he's I think it's when he gets off the planet
after dealing with the rebels, gets back on his his
tie Fighter and he gets a hold of whatever her
name is, Luthn's like assistant lady, and he's just like
going off on like like he's just so like just
heated of like there's not the time Fighter that I
was trying to do, and like it's just like shit
is not going well. He fucking got detoured on this
planet that he almost died, like multiple times, and he
just he's just fucking stressed out. Nothing's going right. The
person I was supposed to be supposed to be flying
this is the right person. This is nothing to what
he said, because he's a tremendous actor and the writing
was better than what I'm doing right now. But it's
just like, man, I believe him. I believe that he
is going through this right now and stressed and.
Speaker 2: Just just great performance.
Speaker 4: And he's not even acting off of someone. He's just
talking into like a phone that probably no one is
even in there for. So he's tremendous. I love to
suit too. His little fighter jacket. I like that he
kept that for.
Speaker 2: A while at the at the wedding. A little girl head.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they're called, but it's like a
little you hold it on like a stick with some
strings coming down a marionette.
Speaker 2: But it was like it was like an ad ad
or something. Yea ATSD.
Speaker 4: I'm like that is so fucking cool, man, Like you know,
like it's just it's taken again like something that we've seen.
I know, I didn't know what it was called, but
I can identify it. But they got just like, yeah,
they would probably have imperial just say in.
Speaker 1: Rogue one, didn't they have the storm Trooper dolls?
Speaker 2: Right, yeah they did. Didn't remember that.
Speaker 1: It makes sense with the kind of Gilroy row one
like cut of the universe.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's cool, just filling in the world building.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then the the great religious statue thing that Davos offered,
is that, like Taylor, is that some some deep knowledge
lore thing that.
Speaker 3: I do not know chandrall in history. So that's that's yeah.
Speaker 2: Cool object it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he bought it off a Palpatine. He was telling people.
Speaker 5: Wedding inside inside the statue, I'm going to figure out
the rebels.
Speaker 1: Where's my friend? Hey, he owes me some money.
Speaker 3: I love the on that note of Chandrala. I love
all of their their outfits, Like every dress my mathma
is rocking, Like every new scene was a different outfit,
and like their clothes are super cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, little braid thing how it's like I imagine because
all the little girls had braids. I can't remember this,
but I guess when she's engaged, she cuts off one
of them, gets married, cuts off the other.
Speaker 1: What's happened in the university only lose your braids two ways,
get married or become a Jedi.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, yeah, that's the Jedi night ritual.
Slice that braid off.
Speaker 1: So because you get married to the force.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we always talk about the scene, but
I just want to show out the camera work too
on that opening sequence when mon is like welcoming people
and they're like, who is that? Taylor thought it was she,
but the camera is just like on her the whole sequence,
and I love it because like shouts out to Genevieve,
just tremendous actress. She's like who's here, and she's all concerned,
Like she just shows like that dread on her face.
And then he's like quicking up the pace walking by,
and then she just sees someone.
Speaker 2: That it's like another politician.
Speaker 4: It's like hih was a good and like she just
put like just instantly switches and then goes back. It
happened a couple of times too when Tay would just
come over and like, I'm not getting my money with
my fucking.
Speaker 1: Money you know, you drunk over everyone's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, beat a piece of shit.
Speaker 4: And she's just like she's just devastated and just trying
to keep a good face to not like make a
scene at this wedding because she has to act.
Speaker 1: But which hit. I'm not the on Tae side, but
at least to defend him a little bit. If this
is the guy that's helping you kind of illegally run money,
if he's been trying to contact you, I would probably
make that a priority to talk to him like asap,
you know, because she's like, you should have told me sooner.
He's like, well I tried, so like that is a
bit on mom and be like, what are you doing here?
I get it because she's busy so much going on
the daughter stuff. But it's like, if that person's in
charge of funds for the rebellion helping out, it's like, yeah,
you definitely take the call immediately, because don't you don't
know what that could be right what It's like they
got you fucking.
Speaker 2: The main role.
Speaker 1: I thought it was because he's like a bank or
something like that, and he set up.
Speaker 3: The money laundering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said up the meeting between the husband or
the father of the groom because he's like under he
has some criminal killings. Yeah, he has some underworld stuff,
and that's why she didn't want to They agree to it,
but he kind of said that the only way he
could do it is if their kids met and just
in situate that they wanted to get married, which they did,
so that's why he's a part of that, and that's
why he said that he's like, take he's losing some money.
I don't know if they're taking it or he just
can't transport it, because he said, like, helping the rebellion
has put eyes on him. So again I get mom,
but yeah, I feel like that's the guy you should
talk to right away who's controlling your money, because she
can't do that because that's what happened where for some reason,
her idiot husband got them somehow linked up with the
Empire and that's how all their money was being watched.
So before when she was on her own being able
just to send the money out and help the rebellion,
she couldn't do that anymore because the Empire had eyes
on like her bank accounts and everything. So she had
to do it like a different way, and that's why
it's like a charity, you know.
Speaker 4: Well it's it's somehow worked out though with with him
doing that, because it's like, oh, if people are looking
at her books, this is why she has no money,
is because her fucking husband just has a gambling issue.
So they're not like, oh, it's a rebellion tie like
she's funneling her money in this avenue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now my cat video told me so.
Speaker 1: Without Tay though she can't. She can't funnel that money though,
right because he's the one doing that. So when he's like, hey,
I'll still do it, but I'm gonna need more, like
he's just blackmailing or we don't and he could be
truthful right off, like you know, bad investments whatever, or
he's just being a yeah, or be he's just being
a dick and does want more money, but yeah he is.
But that's curious if they take him out, has that
work for mom Moffman then Luthen, what do you mean?
So if they take Tay out, right, I thought he'll.
Speaker 2: Find it now by Davos, so they're not even worried
about that.
Speaker 1: They kind of are, but I thought Tay still had
to be involved as a launderer, like he's a banker,
so I thought that he still had to do something.
I guess yeah, I thought that's what was issue. And
maybe maybe you're right, Maybe it's just hey, he tay
his dead and you move on. But because like why
what more, what right does he have to ask her
for any money? Then if he's done his job and
he's cleared, she's just like, well, like, it's not my fault.
You're getting your eyes on you, right.
Speaker 4: So I think it was just like the way that
the conversation played out of like oh now your money
issues are gone, or like they're smoothed over. Everyone seems
to be doing okay now except me. It's just like, oh,
he's just he's just bitter now because he's made some
bad dealings on his own finance, not because of it's
not like he just spent all his money on the rebels. Yeah,
he's like because of certain rebellion activities, you know, they're
they're messing up my investments.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this guy is just a fucking sleeves ball,
and true he can just.
Speaker 1: Be wanting the money because he's just a cog in
the machine and they don't want them to speak, right,
which Luthern said that, like, oh you think he'll say that,
So that's true. Maybe he did clean his hands, it
walked away. He wants more money, and Luthen could just
kill him because well that's done and we just want
him to talk, and Luthen's completely right to do that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, as soon as soon as he approaches
man and he's just like, I don't know, he's acting drunk,
probably what you know it's supposed to be in the scene. Uh,
and he just keeps saying these things. I'm like, it's
over for this guy.
Speaker 2: This guy, he's like.
Speaker 1: Deeper and deeper.
Speaker 2: He's ruining.
Speaker 1: The Mon's already like on the fucking rocks with his wedding,
and he's just like, I know, this is not a
great time.
Speaker 4: It's just you remind me of the guy that's trying
to blackmail Bruce Wayne and uh in Dark Night.
Speaker 2: You know it's like.
Speaker 1: Five million dollars a year for the rest of my
life or I don't say anything. You want to blackmail
a man that goes out every night and beats vigilantes
with his bare hands.
Speaker 2: Good luck if you're more good freeman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all right, that's my first time ever did it,
so you know, I'm pretty pretty happy with it.
Speaker 2: But so every every episode dropped now is is the
three for?
Speaker 1: It's all three? Yeah, so we got three more weeks
of threes.
Speaker 2: That's sad. It's gonna happen too quick.
Speaker 1: It is. It's gonna be a lot to break down.
But we will be here in anything last throat. Yeah,
well we'll be back next week. You're not sure what
air will be covering because I know there's one air
where he meets k twos, so I'm not sure if
that's gonna be the third or the fourth set. I
feel like that could be maybe the fourth because that's
supposed to leave up to Rogue one. But we had
lots of fun stuff coming. This was a fun conversation
boys is. I can't wait to see what else we
get to and yeah, Star Wars is good. Yeah we're back. Yeah,
hopefully the quality stays this way. I hope that I
never have to see Andy serkis because I don't want
that answered. And uh yeah, until then it won't be boring.
May the Force be with you.
Speaker 2: Oh,