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<v Speaker 1>It's seven six fifty five KCD talk station. A very

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<v Speaker 1>abby Tuesday, made extra special because I have in studio

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<v Speaker 1>right across from me, the legendary Peter Bronson, author of

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<v Speaker 1>multiple just outstanding books. Also, he was the the the

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<v Speaker 1>editor and calmness the sins An Inquiry. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>go back quite a few years. This is when they

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<v Speaker 1>actually did a lot of reporting on The Inquirer and

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<v Speaker 1>under his leadership, the Inquirer was judge the best editorial

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<v Speaker 1>page in Ohio for four years in a row. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real accomplishment. Peter Bronson, It's good to have

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<v Speaker 1>you in studio. I know you're doing an empower You

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<v Speaker 1>summinar this Thursday to talk about your most recent book,

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<v Speaker 1>Promised Land. How the Midwest was One. Welcome back man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Always fun to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, Oh, it's great. I just I enjoy our conversations

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<v Speaker 1>me too. Let us again. I got to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to the book, before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the seminar, empower Youamerica dot org. You can get the

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<v Speaker 1>details registered to either you know, come show up in

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<v Speaker 1>person or log in from the comfort of your own home.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks. There's always the Dan Reaganell for the entire

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<v Speaker 1>power of concept. Oh in the lineup of classes, prestic, Yeah, fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>Most notably tonight, here's why I'll put a plug in

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, the which injuries did COVID m r N

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<v Speaker 1>A vaccines cause? And I interviewed Naomi Wolf on the

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<v Speaker 1>program And it's going to be an outstanding seminar tonight

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<v Speaker 1>for those folks who are concerned about COVID. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>learn a lot tonight. Oh amazing eye opener. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be reflecting and people will be writing about that

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<v Speaker 1>experience in our history for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that we're allowed to. Yeah, we're questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all those conspiracy theories has actually turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be the truth. Yes, scary anyway. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the book and get to your seminar or another,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you what your assessment of the

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<v Speaker 1>state of journalism, particularly local journalism right now, since you're

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<v Speaker 1>with the Inquire Back in its heyday, well, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the go to place for all things local.

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<v Speaker 3>You had a multitude, it was the gold standard. It was,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean for media in this town and in this region.

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<v Speaker 3>It was if it was in the inquiry, you could

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<v Speaker 3>trust it. Yeah, I mean if it said the sun

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<v Speaker 3>would rise in the west, people would changed the they

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<v Speaker 3>pull the shades down, you know. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 3>that good it was. We had when I got here

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<v Speaker 3>in ninety two, we had three hundred and sixty five

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<v Speaker 3>thousand circulation. I don't know exactly what it is today,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's less than that very much. So I have magnitude.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, newspapers, when you were talking about them earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>those are the glory days when newspapers, as they would

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<v Speaker 3>say today, were a thing. I mean, everybody had a paper,

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<v Speaker 3>you always. It was the hard copy paper. You read

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<v Speaker 3>it in the morning and it got you off to

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<v Speaker 3>your start, and then you come home in the evening

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<v Speaker 3>and still be waiting there with great stories, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of context, a lot of in depth. And the really

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<v Speaker 3>sad thing I think is that what people really don't notice,

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<v Speaker 3>and they don't miss it because they don't notice, is

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<v Speaker 3>that nobody's watching. We used to staff all the meetings

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<v Speaker 3>exactly everything, city, county, state, just over the entire region,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were there watching, and so we kept the

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<v Speaker 3>public officials honest to a great extent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, look, what's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Since that has receded, there's just a scandal after scandal,

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<v Speaker 3>reckless overspending and waste and abuse and fraud, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is all at all levels.

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<v Speaker 2>It's distressing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, journalists used to hold them accountable exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That was our job.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'd investigate and dig in and and ask the

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<v Speaker 1>hard questions and report when people didn't answer, and report

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<v Speaker 1>the answers when they gave them. Now there's no one

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the other thing is that it got

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the final years while I was still

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<v Speaker 3>at the paper before I left in two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 3>that more and more there was an agenda in the

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<v Speaker 3>soon the agenda was running the newsroom. So it would be, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to hold Republicans accountable. Yeah, Democrats, Nats not

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<v Speaker 3>so much. We don't care. They're okay, they're on our side.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a clear our side their side thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>it became harder and harder to have opinions that were

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<v Speaker 2>In the paper.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean it really it was crazy that people

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<v Speaker 3>forgot what journalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Is all about supposed to be objective reporting exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the editorial page was where you offered your politically

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<v Speaker 1>biased comments. Yerhaps or man perhaps not, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a reporter would go out into the field and just

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<v Speaker 1>report the facts and then you would draw your own

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<v Speaker 1>conclusions and opinions based upon what you read. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>all built in this direction, this this this lean and

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, as you observe, very left leaning these days,

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<v Speaker 1>but it reduces the credibility of the paper.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe if you don't have trust, what do you have nothing?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the only thing you're selling in the media. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it is trust well, and it's a recipe for obvious disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>As you note the number of people subscribing to it,

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<v Speaker 3>even online subscriptions has dropped. Yes, you got to pay

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<v Speaker 3>of left wing journalism and left wing op ed pieces

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<v Speaker 3>and left bias quote unquote factory reporting. And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>not so that's how you lose you lose readership. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just it's again a recipe for failure. I don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>The great scandals that's been uncovered in this dosee investigations

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<v Speaker 3>media to Really they're they're pouring millions of dollars into

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<v Speaker 3>our media. I mean we're talking about New York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about big platforms Politico, Politico that are on

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<v Speaker 3>the take from the government they are supposed to cover. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you do that? That's that's that's just corruption.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in simple you don't bite the hand that feed you.

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<v Speaker 3>So over at that left wing rag Politico Online, Politico

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. I check it out almost every day because

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<v Speaker 3>the story is. To provide me with that liberal talking point.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you trust it? But you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And look at NPR National Public Radio. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>seventy percent of their stories lean way left. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>what do you know, they're also on the take from

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I pint. I think the Trump administration is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing something about that. PBS and NPR. I

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the Trump administration isn't interested in funding left

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<v Speaker 1>wing organization. So, uh, PBS and NPR, maybe your your

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<v Speaker 1>your your time is due, and you may want to

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<v Speaker 1>try to swim on your own rather than using the

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<v Speaker 1>government or the federal taxpayer dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Well floats, they'll find enough contributions from the private sector

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<v Speaker 3>and from their supporters who will keep it going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I firmly believe that, because there are enough people

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<v Speaker 1>out there that you know, get their news from them,

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<v Speaker 1>as biased as it might be, but want them to

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<v Speaker 1>still hang around. But that's how it's supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I just always has beneficed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's offensive to me and has been for I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>going way way back when I was writing editorials and

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<v Speaker 3>columns about it, that we would that I would be

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<v Speaker 3>paying my tax dollars to a government supported media to

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<v Speaker 3>lie to me. Yeah, and and tell me the government

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<v Speaker 3>line and the and the left wing Democratic party line

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<v Speaker 3>of talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean looking at how the changes occurred. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>again look at the enquire for example. And I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to be critical of them. I mean, Sharon Coolidg, you

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<v Speaker 1>come on the program and talk about you know, city Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of the few people that ever shows up.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't have all creature. There's not enough Sharon

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<v Speaker 1>Coolg just hired by the inquire to be around everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>like the old days when you had a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of reporters. But that's right. Do you think it was

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<v Speaker 1>colleges that caused this shift? That the left wing ideology

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there was a cohort of my generation

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<v Speaker 3>that went through the whole Watergate era. That's when you

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<v Speaker 3>had this big bulge in journalism school enrollment and graduation,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the one that went into the newsrooms and

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<v Speaker 3>began to push an agenda. The older editors who had

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<v Speaker 3>been there for a long time resisted, but they were

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<v Speaker 3>quickly outnumbered, and the newsroom became more and more assertive

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<v Speaker 3>of its quote unquote rights and privileges to direct news.

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<v Speaker 3>The publishers became weaker, just like as you saw on

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<v Speaker 3>college campuses, where the administrations became more and more spineless.

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<v Speaker 3>The more the protests that they faced, the more they

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<v Speaker 3>great extent. I watched it happen, and that Cohort began

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<v Speaker 3>to enforce an orthodoxy as they rose up from reporters

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<v Speaker 3>and they would be the ones that would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the gatekeepers, right, and once the gatekeepers have

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<v Speaker 3>chosen a side, you really lose credibility in the community

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<v Speaker 3>because people know it and they can see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, you know, of course the fifty five Carse

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Show tainted with a little ill libertarian bias. As

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you can see my stack that I'm surrounded with,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've pointed out many times over the years I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in radio, and this is nineteenth year for me.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the week, I'll have more than

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<v Speaker 1>a full ream of stories paper sitting next to me

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<v Speaker 1>that I never got to. Yeah, and I have to

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<v Speaker 1>exercise some sort of editorial discretion. Shared's topic I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to. And some people may disappointed I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this story or that story. But it's up

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you know, like it was up to Walter

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<v Speaker 1>Cronkite when you watched him. He's got a million different

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<v Speaker 1>stories he could cover. He picked that one or this one.

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<v Speaker 3>And it comes down to the sources you interview. Exactly

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<v Speaker 3>who do you choose to interview. I mean, we all

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<v Speaker 3>knew in the j profession, in the newspaper business that

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<v Speaker 3>you could choose, pick and choose experts quote unquote experts

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<v Speaker 3>who would tell it, would say whatever you want. You

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<v Speaker 3>just call up and say what do you think? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think that this DOS thing is out of control?

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<v Speaker 3>And they get the hint, yes, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we used to hire experts when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>litigation attorney, and quite often in the legal profession, the

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<v Speaker 1>experts can find what you want them too. Fine, it's amazing, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're really expert at.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, and make a credible case for it.

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<v Speaker 1>dive into the region's history. You go pretty far back,

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<v Speaker 1>including the mound builders. Yeah, the Native America thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>That's an amazing thing because really, if you're on ground level,

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<v Speaker 1>The air and there's no elevation that right. It's really amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>And there are mounds like that all up and down

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<v Speaker 1>And some of them miner standing is haven't been really

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<v Speaker 1>So there's still mounds out there that have the remains

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<v Speaker 1>And some of them had amazing again engineering that was

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<v Speaker 3>And they moved all that earth with baskets, Yeah, tons

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<v Speaker 1>It is them into their ingenuity and still a mystery

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them are parallel what we would see in

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<v Speaker 3>They've seen evidence of cannibalism, no kid, Yeah, very dark stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Serpent worship, human sacrifice, cannibalism. That parallels again the Incas

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<v Speaker 3>and the Aztecs and the Mayans. So this was a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty dark culture. But it was also very sophisticated in trading,

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<v Speaker 3>because you'll find minerals that can only be found in

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<v Speaker 3>Copper from the Northern Peninsula in Michigan right here on

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<v Speaker 2>So they suggest trading doesn't believable.

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<v Speaker 3>Trading network, distant trading thousands of miles away, and coral

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<v Speaker 1>Well, read all about it in Promised Land, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the Promised Land how the Midwest was one more.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Bronson, take a quick break here and mention my

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<v Speaker 1>Seven thirty Here fifty five krs you talk station Bright

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<v Speaker 1>at least in part. We have multitude of topics to

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<v Speaker 1>It really is.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you know how to verify and support, like

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<v Speaker 3>from three different sources or so by the time I

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<v Speaker 3>was done, I was going I was signing up for

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<v Speaker 3>subscriptions to some academic research sites where people publish their papers,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm getting all this academic research, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>really amazing. It's just a great story. Up until even

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteen thirties probably or forties when since when Texas

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<v Speaker 3>celebrated their independence, they always made a point of expressing

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<v Speaker 3>their gratitude to Cincinnati, to the city of Cincinnati for

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<v Speaker 3>saving their independence at the Battle of San Jacinto in

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen thirty thirty six. And if not for Cincinnati, they

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<v Speaker 3>would have lost that battle, and that was the key

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<v Speaker 3>turning point that won independence and defeated Santa Anna.

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<v Speaker 1>No kidding, true, well, who are these sisters? In what

436
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<v Speaker 1>connection did they have to Texas?

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<v Speaker 3>The twin sisters was a pair of six pounder cannons.

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<v Speaker 3>Now until when Cincinnati, when Texas was defeated at the

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<v Speaker 3>Alamo and a terrible massacre, and it outraged the nation

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<v Speaker 3>because Santa Anna butchered all the prisoners who were surrendered

441
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<v Speaker 3>at that battle and just mutilated their bodies. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just beyond barbaric and the nation was outraged. And Texas

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<v Speaker 3>sent a secret agent to Cincinnati, which was the nearest

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<v Speaker 3>big city the queen City of the West, and Texas

445
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<v Speaker 3>was at that time part of Mexico. They were fighting

446
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<v Speaker 3>for desperately for their independence, and they sent this secret agent.

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<v Speaker 2>His name was Picky Ewn Smith, Great.

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<v Speaker 3>Texas, no kidding, and he came to Cincinnati, and all

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<v Speaker 3>the leading citizens of this city, judges, congressman, newspaper publishers,

450
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<v Speaker 3>the mayor, all the elected officials gathered and they heard

451
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<v Speaker 3>this guy beg them and plead for help, and they agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>They formed a committee called the Friends of Texas Committee,

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<v Speaker 3>and they risked their freedom and their fortunes and their

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<v Speaker 3>everything by violating the Federal Neutrality Act to send aid

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<v Speaker 3>to Texas. And so they smelted these two cannons, and

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<v Speaker 3>they found us a shipping, a ship's captain who would

457
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<v Speaker 3>smuggle him down to Texas. And they shipped it down there,

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<v Speaker 3>complete with ammunition and the caissons and the carriage, all

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<v Speaker 3>made right here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>That is cool. I think the part about the defiance

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<v Speaker 1>of federal law. Something there knows that this neutrality law

462
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<v Speaker 1>and say, now we're going to do something right and

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<v Speaker 1>help them out.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly they knew because they had bought the battle to

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<v Speaker 3>win Ohio from the British and the Indian Confederation. They

466
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<v Speaker 3>knew what it meant to be in a desperate fight

467
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<v Speaker 3>for freedom and for your land and for independence in

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<v Speaker 3>this new country. And so they were just the same generation,

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<v Speaker 3>just one removed from their fathers who had fought the

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<v Speaker 3>battles to win Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's recent in their recollection, early

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all the same names, all these men, and they

474
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<v Speaker 3>risked everything, they saved Texas. The cannons arrived, as it

475
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<v Speaker 3>turned out, in the decisive battle, precisely in time to

476
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<v Speaker 3>help Sam Houston put those in the middle of his

477
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<v Speaker 3>line at the Battle of San Jacinto, where San Annam

478
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<v Speaker 3>was not aware that he ever had cannons, because he

479
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<v Speaker 3>didn't until that point. And when the Mexicans attacked and

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<v Speaker 3>he opened up with those cannons, it completely turned the battle.

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<v Speaker 2>That just two cannons, just two cannons, that's all it took.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what's wild, along.

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<v Speaker 2>With a lot of very brave Texas well.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Of course you didn't have an army there, but just

485
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<v Speaker 1>the idea that a couple of cannons can turn the

486
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<v Speaker 1>tide of war.

487
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<v Speaker 3>They were outnumbered and they still managed to. Not only

488
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<v Speaker 3>did they defeat him, they captured him, took him prisoner,

489
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<v Speaker 3>and they stripped him of his sword and his weapons,

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<v Speaker 3>and his dagger, which was about a foot and a

491
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<v Speaker 3>half long, probably in a gold scabbard be crusted with jewels,

492
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<v Speaker 3>was taken from him and was gifted to the City

493
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<v Speaker 3>of Cincinnati in gratitude for those cannons that's still around. No, Unfortunately,

494
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<v Speaker 3>it seems to have gone missing. Okay. Curator of some

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<v Speaker 3>museum walk office see him for a long long time,

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<v Speaker 3>we believe, And when I asked him to track it down,

497
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<v Speaker 3>they said, we have it in our catalog, but we

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<v Speaker 3>cannot find it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's right there next to the arc of the

500
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<v Speaker 1>Covenant in a box?

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<v Speaker 2>Somewhere?

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<v Speaker 1>Right seven thirty six will continue more stories with Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Bronson here in the morning to the studio morning show

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<v Speaker 1>Studio seven thirty six. Right now. If you've got kerc

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<v Speaker 1>Seven forty one at a five KRCB talks station, Happy Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Bronson in studio talking about a little little insight

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<v Speaker 1>into his empower youth. Someone are coming up with this

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course Peter Bronson talking about Promised Land,

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<v Speaker 1>how the Midwest was won, some just fantastic stories that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's ever heard about. I'm glad he's he did all

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<v Speaker 1>the research to let us know about our regional history.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time you were here right after you released

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<v Speaker 1>the book, and I was pretty blown away by it.

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<v Speaker 1>The description of Ohio versus Kentucky. Kentucky was what you

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<v Speaker 1>described as a safe place to be yes by comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Ohio, I mean you lived on the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>danger literally every day your life because of the confrontations

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<v Speaker 1>with the Native American trucks were in our area, and

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone, you know, risked eminent death when they walked

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<v Speaker 1>out the front door.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you had to stay in these little what they

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<v Speaker 3>called stations today we'd call them stockades. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those stations were barely bigger than the footprint of some

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<v Speaker 3>of the bigger homes in Indian Hill, for example, So

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<v Speaker 3>you'd have all these families crowded in here. In some cases,

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<v Speaker 3>the women did not leave the walls of that stockade

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<v Speaker 3>for eight or nine months at a time because the

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<v Speaker 3>Indian depredations were so terrible. During one four year period,

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen hundred these settlers were taken.

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<v Speaker 2>By the Indians.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have to put that in perspective and say

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<v Speaker 3>they probably weren't fifteen thousand people settled on the Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>side of the.

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<v Speaker 2>River at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sizeable percentage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So your wife, your children, your husband, your brother,

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<v Speaker 3>your daughter, your uncle, all your family could be taken,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe three or four of them at a time.

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<v Speaker 3>They would be if they were too much to handle,

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<v Speaker 3>if they were difficult, they would be tortured for days

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<v Speaker 3>at a time for the entertainment of the tribe. They

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<v Speaker 3>would be scalped in many cases and left to die,

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<v Speaker 3>murdered and mutilated. Or if they decided to sell them

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<v Speaker 3>to the British, they could get one hundred dollars for

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<v Speaker 3>live hostages and fifty dollars for a scalp. So they

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<v Speaker 3>would march them from Cincinnati what would then be known

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<v Speaker 3>as the early days of Fort Washington. They'd march them

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<v Speaker 3>from here all the way to Detroit on foot, and

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<v Speaker 3>if they survived that, then they'd be sold to the

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<v Speaker 3>British for.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>What did the British do with them.

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<v Speaker 3>They used them as slaves, indentured servants, domestic servants working

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<v Speaker 3>in their fields in Canada, whatever they wanted. The British

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<v Speaker 3>were ensconced in Canada, and they were paying the Indians

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<v Speaker 3>to do this terrorism on the settlers to keep us

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<v Speaker 3>from expanding into Ohio, which they were there planning to

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<v Speaker 3>take all this land for Canada. The British were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that the settlers didn't come west.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Native American culture tribes in our area worked

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<v Speaker 1>with and cooperated with the British so that the British

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<v Speaker 1>could ultimately take over Ohio. Did they do the next

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<v Speaker 1>step in that process, which meant that the British would

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<v Speaker 1>probably then turn against the Native Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as it turned out, they did turn against the

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<v Speaker 3>Native Americans at the Battle of Fallen Timbers because it

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<v Speaker 3>took us three campaigns, military case campaigns that George Washington organized.

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<v Speaker 3>George Washing Washington is really an unbelievable hero in so

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<v Speaker 3>many ways, but in the history of Ohio he is

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<v Speaker 3>a key player. He was back in those days, if

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<v Speaker 3>you were a surveyor, you were kind of like the

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana Jones of that day. Oh yeah, that was like

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<v Speaker 3>the boldest, craziest, most courageous thing and adventurous thing you

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<v Speaker 3>could do. And George Clark, yeah, And George Washington was

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<v Speaker 3>a surveyor in the Ohio Country, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew this land.

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<v Speaker 3>He knew what it meant, how beautiful it was, clean water,

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<v Speaker 3>great soil, timber, abundant wildlife for hunting. And he was

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<v Speaker 3>determined to make sure this became part of the Young country.

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<v Speaker 3>And he knew the British were paying the Indians to

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<v Speaker 3>terrorize the settlers, so he organized these military expeditions to

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<v Speaker 3>defeat the Indian Indian Confederation of mainly Miami and Shawnee tribes,

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<v Speaker 3>and the first two ended in complete disaster massacre, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>just despair, demoralizing defeats where and one battle was the

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<v Speaker 3>second one was called the Battle of the Thousand Slain

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<v Speaker 3>because that's how many people were massacred by the Indians.

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<v Speaker 3>And that all discouraged the people in Ohio so bad

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<v Speaker 3>they almost packed it in and left.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I mean, I'm thinking about being stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>one of these these these forts or stations did you

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<v Speaker 1>call them?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of life is that? It was horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It had to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in the winter.

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<v Speaker 3>You could starve, yes, because it was so difficult to

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<v Speaker 3>get out of there and hunt, because every time you

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<v Speaker 3>go out and hunt you might lose somebody in your

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<v Speaker 3>party to the Indians who take, you know, take their gun,

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<v Speaker 3>take the guy and torture him or sell them. And

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<v Speaker 3>it was just it was terrible what these people went through.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh should make us all very proud of the stock

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<v Speaker 3>we come from. Yeah, these are some courageous people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, we'll continue with Peter Bronson again. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>Seven fifty one at fifty five kr CD talk station

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<v Speaker 1>Very Happy Tuesday Extra Special. Got Peter Bronson in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio kind of getting a little history lesson here for

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<v Speaker 1>our region based upon his book Promised Land. How the

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<v Speaker 1>Midwest was one subject matter of his discussion Thursday beginning

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<v Speaker 1>at seven with George Brunheman followed by Peter Bronson for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. He'll have books there, signed copy of his

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<v Speaker 1>books for sale, so if you want to get a copy,

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<v Speaker 1>show up at a seminar. But you'll certainly enjoy the discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>As I am this morning, just again scratching the service

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<v Speaker 1>and the material in the book, and Peter writes a great,

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<v Speaker 1>great book. So there's quite a few of them, ev

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<v Speaker 1>and I will recommend each and every one of them

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<v Speaker 1>to the listening audience. Peter, we were talking a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You you mentioned on air that when these local tribes

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<v Speaker 1>would capture the settlers. Yeah, that I think. The worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing you said out loud was that they sometimes would

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<v Speaker 1>scalp them but using and take them up to the

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<v Speaker 1>British and sell them off as slaves. That wasn't bad enough,

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<v Speaker 1>but off air you mentioned they also are rather ingenious

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<v Speaker 1>at at torturing them.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And and the thing is it was creative brutality, cruelty,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call it. But the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>there was brutality on both sides because as anybody can imagine,

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<v Speaker 3>if you lose your wife, your daughter, your children to

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<v Speaker 3>uh people who capture them and butcher them or kill

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<v Speaker 3>them or sell them, that make you pretty in the

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<v Speaker 3>mood for revenge. Yes, So the brutality is goes both ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not underestimate that. However, the the thing that really

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<v Speaker 3>that I found that separated what the Indian tribes did

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<v Speaker 3>and the white settlers did is that the Indian tribes

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<v Speaker 3>would torture people for days at a.

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<v Speaker 2>Time for the entertainment of their entire tribe.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody would get in on it, the the women, the children.

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<v Speaker 3>They would they put somebody at a stake and burn

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<v Speaker 3>them slowly to death and torture them constantly through the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just beyond belief. How what agony those poor people

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<v Speaker 3>went through. And this was entertainment. Now, the settlers certainly

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<v Speaker 3>did their share of scalping and murder and brutality and

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<v Speaker 3>weapons and war, but they did not torture.

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<v Speaker 1>That way and prolonged agony.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that you have to go farther back into European culture, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You the Inquisition.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, then you find the same kinds of torture going on,

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<v Speaker 3>but not not in this country, not with the settlers.

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<v Speaker 1>So did the native tribes cooperate together. You mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>two the Shawnee and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Shawnee and the Miami, and then you had the Ottawas

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<v Speaker 3>from Michigan. You had all kinds of tribes all over

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<v Speaker 3>the Pottawatamie, they all of the over the Midwest. They

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<v Speaker 3>formed a giant confederation.

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<v Speaker 1>Because oftentimes they fought amongst themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and these confederations were hard to keep together. But

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<v Speaker 3>the British were behind the scenes engineering all this. They're

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<v Speaker 3>providing the knives and the muskets and the and the encouragement,

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<v Speaker 3>the promises that if you if you can keep torturing

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<v Speaker 3>and capturing and killing these settlers, then you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>keep this land. Well actual, the British always planned to

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<v Speaker 3>take the land for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so at one point.

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<v Speaker 3>Or another they would have turned on the Indian tribes anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds a little bit like we were trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>in Afghanistan on the various sheiks and local tribal leaders,

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<v Speaker 1>getting them to you know, cooperate with us and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get them to cooperate with each other. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out too well.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's going on in Israel today with Iran using

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<v Speaker 3>Hamas as their proxy. That's the way the British used

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<v Speaker 3>these tribes. These tribes were already motivated to kill. This

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<v Speaker 3>was their land. They considered Ohio as their sacred land.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was that's why it was more dangerous than Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 3>which was kind of an open hunting ground for all tribes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there are a lot of depredations in Kentucky. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>get me wrong, it was a very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Place to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But by by going into Ohio that was like the

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<v Speaker 3>line you shall not cross. And when we did move

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<v Speaker 3>into Ohio, and the funny thing about that is to

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<v Speaker 3>get that area settled. They told the veterans of the

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<v Speaker 3>Revolutionary War who had defeated Great Britain, we can't pay you.

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<v Speaker 3>The Treasury's broke, but we will give you land in

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio and good luck settling it. Yeah, be careful, build

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<v Speaker 3>a fort. First, you fought a war.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're in for the battle of your lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a break. We'll do the top of our news.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll bring Peter Bronson back since Brake part is not

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<v Speaker 1>on today, but we will hear from Daniel Davis for

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<v Speaker 1>the deep dive at eight thirty Ukraine, Russia and what

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit of a breakdown at the Oval Office.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Davis take on that at eight thirty be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Covering Trump's first one hundred days.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day, America's deadline is over.

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<v Speaker 2>by Okay, I right.

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<v Speaker 1>Something, It's about to be dug up. What News will

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<v Speaker 1>be next Well, I'm not a prophet.

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<v Speaker 2>The Glenn Beck Program week days at nine on fifty

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<v Speaker 1>Eight oh five fifty five KRC Detok Station. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>happy toesday Tea about on the hour Daniel Davis deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive on the well spiraling out of control situation with

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine Russia and the Oval Office which is cut off

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<v Speaker 1>funding to Ukraine. I guess most recent development couldn't see

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<v Speaker 1>that common given the seemingly callous attitude of the President

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<v Speaker 1>vladimirl Zelenski when he was in the Oval Office, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>predicated by some suggestions from Democrats going on ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting that he present a hard line and in

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<v Speaker 1>front of Donald Trump and JD. Vance and maybe for

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<v Speaker 1>a comment, a useful comment or thought on that. The

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<v Speaker 1>incomparable brilliant Peter Bronson remains in the studio and we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about this off air, and I thought, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, why not just go ahead and engage in

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation on air. Sure, sure they can't you created,

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<v Speaker 1>I think no one believes they can win, No nobody

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<v Speaker 1>with any credibility.

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<v Speaker 3>No even the State Department, although they covered it up

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<v Speaker 3>and concealed it.

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<v Speaker 2>From us.

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<v Speaker 3>They had way back at the beginning of this whole,

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<v Speaker 3>this whole battle, they had a report that they did

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<v Speaker 3>that said, quote, this situation in Ukraine is a catastrophe

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<v Speaker 3>that can only result in a prolonged, unwinnable.

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<v Speaker 1>War, and we are prolonging it. And the consequence of

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<v Speaker 1>our prolonging it by fighting this proxy war by arming

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<v Speaker 1>them is the casualty count has just gone through the roof,

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<v Speaker 1>and ye don't have enough young people to go and

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<v Speaker 1>fight the wars anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And for what for what?

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<v Speaker 3>What is you have to really ask what is the

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<v Speaker 3>motive of these administrations like Biden to go on telling

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<v Speaker 3>us that this is going to be when we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to win, that we're going to be there as long

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<v Speaker 3>as it takes. Why what is the possible reason for

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<v Speaker 3>us to keep pouring all this this money and treasure

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<v Speaker 3>and weapons that are in turn being sold on the

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00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 3>black market back to our enemies in Central America? What

846
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 3>the heck is going on? We've been lied to so

847
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 3>much it's it's really hard to unravel at.

848
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>All it is. And then one of the fun facts

849
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you pointed out, and something that fell was not on

850
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>my radar, And I know a lot of the things

851
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>that are coming out with DOJE and USAID and all

852
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the ridiculous millions and billions of dollars that they threw

853
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 1>at every stupid cause out there. You said that they

854
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>were funding Ukrainian media.

855
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, like ninety percent of Ukrainian media was taken money

856
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:10.519
<v Speaker 3>from USAID, which was a covert arm of our State

857
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:16.199
<v Speaker 3>Department under the Biden administration. Yes, CIA, if if you

858
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 3>say you're from the State Department, you really mean you

859
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.559
<v Speaker 3>with the CIA exactly. Only the difference is the CIA

860
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:25.280
<v Speaker 3>has to get a presidential finding to do something really ugly,

861
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 3>and at least the president knows USAID didn't require that.

862
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>They can do whatever the CIA wants to do but

863
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>can't do. And they were manipulating the news in the

864
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 3>media in Ukraine, coming up with these really ridiculous hoax

865
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 3>stories about the ghost ace that was downing all these

866
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.119
<v Speaker 3>Russian meigs and it turned out to be a bunch

867
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 3>of video from a flight simulator. I mean it was,

868
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 3>It's just crazy stuff. And this was funded by our

869
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 3>State Department to send these lives through you can launder

870
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 3>them through Ukrainian media and then funnel them back into

871
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.440
<v Speaker 3>our media, which just swallows the hook line and sinker

872
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 3>because they're all on board for this unwinnable war.

873
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I guess part of me really is has

874
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 1>been I've been asking this question out loud for a

875
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>long time once and I understand the the seemingly existential

876
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.159
<v Speaker 1>threat that the Soviet Union we faced. The Soviet Union,

877
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 1>obviously they had a lot of nuclear weapons. Obviously they

878
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 1>had aspirations and designs to spread their communist philosophy around

879
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.679
<v Speaker 1>the World's the reason we got into Vietnam, which of

880
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 1>course we all know how that worked out. And of

881
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>course the East German countries after FDR sold them out

882
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 1>at Yalta, they were right up against our partners in Europe.

883
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>So I understand that that sort of again existential threat.

884
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the Russians are going to roll in

885
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and take over Europe. So but with the fall of

886
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 1>the Iron Curtain and the collapse of the Soviet Union's economy,

887
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>why didn't we use that as an opportunity to open

888
00:45:56.039 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the channels and work cooperatively with them, and with them

889
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.760
<v Speaker 1>they have things that we want. We know that we

890
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>have things that they want. Help curtain felt because they

891
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 1>wanted blue jeans for God's sake.

892
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's crazy, isn't it. You have to ask

893
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.880
<v Speaker 3>these questions, why why are we being manipulated to choose

894
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 3>that Russia is now our major enemy when actually the

895
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.360
<v Speaker 3>enemy that we face, the real exits, existential threat to

896
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 3>our power and freedom.

897
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Is China. Absolutely clearly, there's no doubt.

898
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 3>And yet we keep getting this bait and switched this Uh,

899
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 3>don't pay attention here, watch the squirrel over here, because

900
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 3>we got something going on with Russia. And it seems

901
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 3>to me, if I recall correctly, it was Hillary Clinton

902
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that was pushing the reset button, wanted to cozy up.

903
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>That's resurfaced of late. Yeah.

904
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And and now all of a sudden, as soon

905
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 3>as we get a Republican an office, suddenly we had

906
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 3>to start this Russia hoax, which was to also it

907
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:56.079
<v Speaker 3>had a dual purpose, which is to destroy and remove

908
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 3>a president that was the deep state didn't like and

909
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 3>also demonized RUSSI create a new enemy.

910
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, so Putin becomes the bad guy, and with that

911
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.519
<v Speaker 1>I acknowledge he is not, in any way, shape or

912
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.039
<v Speaker 1>form a great guy. He has murdered people. He's a dictator, autocrat,

913
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call him. Yeah, but we pick

914
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 1>and choose which sins to overlook, given whichever nation we're

915
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Yeah, and we've been obviously trading heavily with

916
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>China since the Nixon administration.

917
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, talk about killing people, putting them in prison for

918
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 3>their religious beliefs or they're yeah, whatever reason. How about Zelenski,

919
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 3>he's a dictator. Yeah, he's not had a free election

920
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 3>in his country. He's suppressed the media, he's manipulated the media.

921
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>He's he's had people arrested. He's he's a dictator.

922
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's also called off elections, Yeah.

923
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Called off elections.

924
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 3>And the corruption over there, there's a reason Ukraine was

925
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 3>known widely as the most corrupt country on earth for

926
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:54.679
<v Speaker 3>many years before any of this arose.

927
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, just look at.

928
00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>That, and that did not evaporate when Russia invaded the territory.

929
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:03.480
<v Speaker 3>I think what we're going to find out eventually, if

930
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 3>we ever do unpeel this onion, is that this has

931
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 3>been a money laundering spot for powerful people in this

932
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 3>country for many, many years. They've been able to push

933
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 3>money through Ukraine that actually winds up.

934
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, back in Washington, DC.

935
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 3>In fact, something like seventy percent of it, and even

936
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't even go to Ukraine, it goes to DC lobbyists.

937
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just crazy how this has been used to prop

938
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 3>up and make people fabulously wealthy and powerful, which is

939
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 3>supposedly our money that we're spending to help Ukraine well.

940
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 1>And that's the other thing that sort of Doughe has uncovered,

941
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>moving away from just money that flowed into Ukraine in

942
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the nefarious ways and mechanisms have been used to well

943
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of fundline people's pockets when they issue one of

944
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>these grants or one of these funding studies or one

945
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of these sesame street projects. Now here's a check. No

946
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 1>one follows that money to see if whatever ridiculous or

947
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 1>even arguably great cause that that work is being accomplished

948
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 1>or done.

949
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 3>No accountability, none, no audit to see where the money went.

950
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 3>You got people in Ukraine running around with big bags money.

951
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.599
<v Speaker 3>We don't know where that's going, but we know it's

952
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.800
<v Speaker 3>not where we're going where we intended it to go.

953
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:28.280
<v Speaker 3>What is I mean this is just basically a huge

954
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 3>money laundering scheme. You're enriching the defense contractors because they

955
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.679
<v Speaker 3>can ship all these weapons over there and then we

956
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 3>have to make new ones, and you're enriching political people.

957
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 3>I think we're going to find what Elon Musk said

958
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.119
<v Speaker 3>the other day that with his Doze research, he's seeing

959
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 3>that seventy five percent of the fraud money, the abuse money,

960
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.119
<v Speaker 3>is going to Democrats. He said, twenty five percent is

961
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 3>going to Republicans, so that they'll keep their mouth shut.

962
00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 3>But that's how bad it is.

963
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, in all of this and one of the

964
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.119
<v Speaker 1>other conversations we had off air, when did the Democrats

965
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>become the party of war?

966
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

967
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it strange? It's just because, I mean, the Republicans

968
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 1>seem to be largely against this. I know the Trump

969
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 1>administration is against this ongoing. He wants to end the conflict.

970
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>He wants the Blot lives. I get all that, the

971
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 1>motivations behind it, the futility of the process anyway, But

972
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats are now embracing war. They fought against Bush

973
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>when he invaded Iraq. They fought against the Vieta for

974
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>oil Vietnam. They were against Reagan and his efforts visa

975
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 1>visa Central America, Central America.

976
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Sandinista's all of that always anti war. Remember, since she

977
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.280
<v Speaker 3>used to follow Bush around everywhere, and she was like

978
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 3>the media darling. She was on the front pages of

979
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 3>just about every paper in the country and on the

980
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 3>on the news constantly protesting the blood for oil war

981
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 3>in Iraq.

982
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what's happened. It's like bizarre world.

983
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 3>It really in the Superman comics, because one day the

984
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 3>Democrats are the anti war party, and the next time

985
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:09.599
<v Speaker 3>you turn around they are completely sold out in support

986
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 3>of this forever war. They're even I'm sure they spun

987
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 3>up Zelenski before he met with Trump and told him

988
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 3>to blow up the deal.

989
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, a lot of people are suggesting that because he

990
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 1>did meet with a bunch of Democrats ahead of that

991
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>meeting on Friday, that kind of fell apart. Yeah, well,

992
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>one more with Peter Bronson before we get to Daniel

993
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Davis at the bottom. And they are really enjoying this, Peter,

994
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and I hope my listening on me too.

995
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Brian.

996
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's give it a big shout out to doctor

997
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Fred Pack and doctor Meghan Frew, what I call the

998
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 1>dynamic duo of dentistry, and they truly are outstanding dentists. Now,

999
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 1>speak to you people out there that don't like going

1000
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 1>to the dentists, you're going to the wrong dentist, and

1001
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.679
<v Speaker 1>some people get a little wigged out of it. You

1002
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 1>got nothing to worry about when you're talking with doctor

1003
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Fred Pack and doctor Megan Frew, and I understand doctor

1004
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Frew is outstanding in terms of her chair side manner,

1005
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 1>terrific dentists. Of course, she's working on her accreditation with

1006
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 1>the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry. And then turning over

1007
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to doctor Pack, a Distinguished Fellow with the Aumery Academy

1008
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 1>of Cosmetic Dentistry, one of only three in the entire

1009
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio. Here's like fifty in the planet. But

1010
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 1>that means he has got the best going for you

1011
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to cosmetic dentistry. Tremendous smile makers. These

1012
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>are life changing smile makers. So if you're a person

1013
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 1>who really does not like their smile, you're unhappy with it.

1014
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Dental work needed, you need doctor Fred Peck at your side.

1015
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.480
<v Speaker 1>When you see before and after pictures of the amazing

1016
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.880
<v Speaker 1>transformations he's done, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

1017
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<v Speaker 1>Always the most state of the art dental clinic. Fred

1018
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Peck insists upon that. Of course, teaming up with doctor Freu.

1019
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I think just speaks volumes to doctor Freux's credibility as

1020
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:40.679
<v Speaker 1>a dentist and quality as a dentist, because he would

1021
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 1>not take anything better than the best five one three six,

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<v Speaker 1>one seventy six sixty six five to one three six

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<v Speaker 1>two one seventy six sixty six. You can find more

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<v Speaker 1>online at Peck Pck Pecksmiles dot.

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<v Speaker 4>Com, fifty five krc.

1026
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<v Speaker 1>FIR fifty five KRCD talk station. All right, Thomas swishing,

1027
00:52:58.079 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody are very happy too today looking forward to Dan

1028
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Davis Deep Dive, although to be with much regret that

1029
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 1>he's on, even though I love talking to him and

1030
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 1>he's got a fascinating outlook and input and insight. Being

1031
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a retired lieutenant colonel, I have thoroughly enjoyed my time

1032
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>here with Peter Bronson, author, former editor of The enquire

1033
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, his resume is really long, but I like

1034
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to focus on the books, and again the book that

1035
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>he will be talking about coming up on Thursday at

1036
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the Empower You Seminar. Go to empower you America dot

1037
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 1>org to get signed up. The excuse me, Peter promised

1038
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:34.400
<v Speaker 1>land how the Midwest was one just going back to that,

1039
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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just ask you about. I think another

1040
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>guy that you brought up last time you were here,

1041
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is this character Mad Anthony Wayne.

1042
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, talk about a superhero. That guy is something.

1043
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 3>He was an amazing He got the nickname Mad Anthony

1044
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 3>because he led a charge straight up a cliff and

1045
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:00.519
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't even let his men load their their us gets.

1046
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 3>He said, we're just gonna use bayonets because they're they're

1047
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 3>so much more terrifying to the British. During the Revolutionary War,

1048
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:08.880
<v Speaker 3>he led this charge at Stony Point in New York,

1049
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 3>straight up a cliff side at midnight and took the

1050
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:16.199
<v Speaker 3>British position, cannons included, and turned the cannons on the British.

1051
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 3>And this was he was like George Washington's go to

1052
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:26.360
<v Speaker 3>guy for the really toughest special ops like that one.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in peacetime, the guy was just a total wreck.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a drunk, he was cheating on his wife publicly.

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<v Speaker 3>He was kicked out of Congress for voter fraud, he

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<v Speaker 3>was in debt.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just a scoundrel, a total mess.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh wartime, huh no, he could not handle peacetime

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<v Speaker 3>and when when Washington saw these first two expeditions against

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<v Speaker 3>the Indian Confederation failed so miserably, he finally turned to

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<v Speaker 3>mad Anthony and he persuaded Congress after many, many months

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<v Speaker 3>of expending his political capital to form a standing army

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<v Speaker 3>to help him save the Northwest Territory. And if not

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<v Speaker 3>for that Washington doing what he did and selecting matt

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Wayne, because Wayne was the guy who went up

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<v Speaker 3>through all the way through Ohio building forts to help

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<v Speaker 3>his supply chain and make sure he could get to

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<v Speaker 3>the Battle of Fallen Timbers with all the supplies and

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<v Speaker 3>men and no desertions and tough and ready. And he did,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just just totally destroyed the Indian Confederation, made

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<v Speaker 3>them run back to a British fort. The British saw

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<v Speaker 3>them in retreat and closed the doors of the fort

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<v Speaker 3>after promising the Indians that they would let him in.

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<v Speaker 3>That destroyed the alliance with the British and Mad Anthony Wayne.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he'd be in such a I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 3>just a tough guy. He gets on his horse then

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<v Speaker 3>and rides right under the stockade at the British fort

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<v Speaker 3>with all these rifles at his back, and dares them

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<v Speaker 3>just dares them to shoot me and start another war

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<v Speaker 3>with the colonies, and the commander yeah, and the commander

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<v Speaker 3>the British fort sos, well, Hey, that decision is way

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<v Speaker 3>above my paid grade.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. So guess what.

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<v Speaker 3>Within a matter of weeks, the British had packed up

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<v Speaker 3>and moved out of that fort and left the Northwest

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<v Speaker 3>Territory for good. And that's when the Northwest Territory became

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<v Speaker 3>free to settle.

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<v Speaker 1>All about that? Now? Is this after his post revolutionary

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00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:37.280
<v Speaker 1>war declined? Yes, he was by becoming again a leader

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<v Speaker 1>of a of troops and a combatant. Did that turn

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<v Speaker 1>his life around or something?

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<v Speaker 2>It did?

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<v Speaker 3>Accept that he was then used as a peace emissary.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a really interesting subplot in this story about

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00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>his number two commander who was a spy for Spain

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<v Speaker 3>and nobody knew it at the time, and this guy

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00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:01.760
<v Speaker 3>was undermining Anthony Wayne and tried to kill him on

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<v Speaker 3>this campaign. He cut a tree down and had it

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<v Speaker 3>fall on his tent and nearly killed him and did

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<v Speaker 3>cripple him for a while. And it's pretty clear from

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence, and there's a lot of people that will

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<v Speaker 3>support this that he was poisoned by this man, his

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<v Speaker 3>second in command, right after that battle at Fallen Timbers,

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<v Speaker 3>and that he was then died of poisoning what appears

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<v Speaker 3>to be the symptoms of poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on his way.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to Philadelphia to his home.

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<v Speaker 1>Just scratching the surface with author and friend Peter Bronson,

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<v Speaker 1>promised Land how the Midwest was one A strongly encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you folks that are going to show over the empower

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<v Speaker 1>You summonar on Thursday, get a copy of the book.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to have him there signed copies. But then again,

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage you to get any of the books

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<v Speaker 1>he's written. Just fantastic, well written and really well researched,

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<v Speaker 1>Our Town Forbidden Fruit, which I think you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to play favorites, but I just those were

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<v Speaker 1>such easy reads. I just really couldn't put him down.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all there. Fifty five KRC dot com is

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<v Speaker 1>linked to the Empower You sum on our page. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go on Amazon search for Peter Bronson, or better

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<v Speaker 1>go to his publishing site, which is chilidogpress dot COM's

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<v Speaker 1>You can get his books there. But also if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a budding writer and you're interested in maybe getting something published.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the man to talk to. Peter Bronson, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for your.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, pleasure, thank you for your kind words, and always

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<v Speaker 3>a pleasure to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian. I feel the exact same way when you're around,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I'll look forward to having another conversation with you,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully sooner rather than later. Folks, stick around Daniel Davis

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Dive coming up next. We'll talk about the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Ukraine, Russia and the relations with the Oval Office

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<v Speaker 1>which seem a bit strained. Right back after these brief words.

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