Speaker 1: Next on the drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your
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Speaker 3: We got the voice of you. It's Bill Riley joining us,
Speaker 3: coming up in a bit. Dave Fox rolls By started
Speaker 3: things off with Zach Harper. But it is a Tuesday,
Speaker 3: even in June. That means it's time for our weekly
Speaker 3: hit with the great Tim McMahon, Timmy, I know you're
Speaker 3: a jam PAXI. Let's get right to it. Since you
Speaker 3: and I last spoke, we have a deserving NBA champ.
Speaker 3: How do you add color and context and not just
Speaker 3: the finals run, but the entire season that we just
Speaker 3: saw from Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen for Shake gild this, Alexander. I
Speaker 1: mean we just witnessed one of the great individual all
Speaker 1: around seasons in NBA history. I mean, you punch up
Speaker 1: his numbers scoring champ uh, you know, regular season, MVP, Finals, MVP,
Speaker 1: complete brilliance for a guy just entering his prime. And
Speaker 1: then like the question of Oklahoma City, now that they've
Speaker 1: gotten one is how many they've got a chance. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got to put a couple together before you start
Speaker 1: throwing dynasty around too much. But they've got that kind
Speaker 1: of potential when you look at they've got one guy
Speaker 1: and they're in their regular rotation who you could say
Speaker 1: is deep into his prime. The rest of them are
Speaker 1: either just starting it or not even approaching it. This
Speaker 1: is going to be a force to be reckoned with
Speaker 1: for a long long time to come. Certainly the team
Speaker 1: that everybody in the NBA is going to be chasing
Speaker 1: the next few years.
Speaker 3: So who out this way out west exists now? With them?
Speaker 3: The Vegas Odds basically says, well, it says Oklahoma City
Speaker 3: is the massive favorite, but if there are two teams
Speaker 3: that can actually make be making them uncomfortable, according to Vegas,
Speaker 3: it's Houston with Durance and Minnesota. Do you think those
Speaker 3: are the two teams that Oklahoma City needs to worry
Speaker 3: about or they're just going to kind of do their thing.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't think Oklahoma City is giving
Speaker 1: necessary worry about anybody. I would say Denver is the
Speaker 1: team in the Western Conference that pushed them to the brink,
Speaker 1: that pushed them to seven games. Denver is the one
Speaker 1: that as a player that you can make a real
Speaker 1: serious argument that is even a more dominant force than
Speaker 1: Shake Gilvers Alexander. So I think you've got to include
Speaker 1: the Nuggets in that conversation. Also, you know, Denver's the
Speaker 1: last team other than Okay seeing the West to win
Speaker 1: a championship. And you know, the Rockets I think are
Speaker 1: going to be I don't know, we can play with
Speaker 1: the semantics of contender, but man, the Rockets were a
Speaker 1: number two seed that, in my opinion, were a go
Speaker 1: to guy away from being a real threat, and they
Speaker 1: just were not traded for Kevin Durant without giving up
Speaker 1: anything that I would consider to be the central part
Speaker 1: of their long term future.
Speaker 3: So the Pacers net net of this tim sounds like,
Speaker 3: what an incredible run to the Game seven of the
Speaker 3: NBA Finals, A horrible, horrible ending with Haliburton coming out
Speaker 3: knocking down three threes and then doing the Achilles. So,
Speaker 3: as somebody who witnessed this run, what's the takeaway from Indiana.
Speaker 1: Side, I mean, maybe the most impressive playoff run, not
Speaker 1: the end of the championship ever, certainly in recent memory.
Speaker 1: When you talk about all the upsets, they pulled off
Speaker 1: all the miraculous comebacks, the unbelievable clutch run that Tyry Haliburton,
Speaker 1: and it didn't look man like, don't I don't believe
Speaker 1: in basketball? God? After that, because for him to have
Speaker 1: that kind of clutch run, to be getting it out
Speaker 1: in a game seven, to get off to that kind
Speaker 1: of a start in a game seven, and then to
Speaker 1: get hurt in that fashion, like, man, what a tragic ending,
Speaker 1: What a terrible way for that run to end, And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: like he probably doesn't play next year. You know, it's
Speaker 1: probably now a gap year for the Pacers, and what
Speaker 1: a what a tough playoffs for Eastern Conference stars, you know,
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, Jason Tatum, Tyre's Halbert all out most if
Speaker 1: not all. Next year we're covering from Achilles, and you know,
Speaker 1: the East is wide open, and I know, like there's
Speaker 1: there's guys, there are stars in the Western Conference and
Speaker 1: maybe aren't feeling like they're in a long term fit
Speaker 1: right now that are looking east and saying maybe we
Speaker 1: should be trying to get there, because it's a lot
Speaker 1: easier out east than it is west.
Speaker 3: Right now, Vegas likes Cleveland and New York and then
Speaker 3: Orlando is trailing a little bit behind. Would you agree
Speaker 3: with that assertion based off the lidney of injuries you
Speaker 3: just referenced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I really like the Deskin Bain trade for Orlando.
Speaker 1: You know, he's never been an All Star. I would
Speaker 1: say the odds of him being an All Star now
Speaker 1: are a heck of a lot better now that he's
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. That's another reason maybe find some
Speaker 1: stars that are that are looking that way and wondering
Speaker 1: if that's a place that they want to be. But
Speaker 1: I think that they really needed obviously shooting and another
Speaker 1: guy who can create some offensively. I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be a really, really good fit. And you know
Speaker 1: that was also a sign for Memphis that hey, they
Speaker 1: they're not close to contending in the Western Conference and
Speaker 1: there's a step back type of trade to kind of reload,
Speaker 1: certainly get some some draft and O, and you know,
Speaker 1: see what they can try to do around John Morant
Speaker 1: and Jaron Jackson Jr.
Speaker 3: Let me go back to the Durant deal. Tim, since
Speaker 3: I've been able to talk to you, do you think
Speaker 3: Phoenix got enough? Do you like it from both sides?
Speaker 3: Do you think there's one winner in this situation.
Speaker 1: No, there's one winner. You know, Phoenix wasn't going to
Speaker 1: get enough though, because of the circumstances. Sure, Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: had a year left on his contract and he was
Speaker 1: going to have control, and he was not going to
Speaker 1: you know, he was like, they could have gotten more
Speaker 1: from Minnesota if kat would have been willing to go there.
Speaker 1: He wasn't. He didn't want to go there. So the
Speaker 1: Jim wives weren't going to trade for guy who didn't
Speaker 1: want to be there. And you know, like the Sons
Speaker 1: took the deal that they had to take if they're
Speaker 1: going to get a deal done for the draft. But
Speaker 1: the Rockets weren't going to boost that offers. They weren't
Speaker 1: going to give up a tarrees or certainly they don't
Speaker 1: even ask about him in Compton. They weren't willing to
Speaker 1: get up to Barison the Juni and reach Shepherd. They
Speaker 1: were only willing to do a pick, not multiple picks,
Speaker 1: and certainly not multiple of the Sun's own picks. And
Speaker 1: the Spurs weren't even bat agressive and neither were they
Speaker 1: heat So they took the offer they had to take.
Speaker 1: But man, they're a long way from paying off the
Speaker 1: trade that they made to get KT and by the way,
Speaker 1: the team that has the most fascet s leftover from
Speaker 1: that it was the freaking Houston Rockets, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? The Rio. It's funny Tillman Fatita learn some
Speaker 1: tough lessons early on the Chris Paul Trey was a disaster, right,
Speaker 1: but he learned his lessons and they went through a
Speaker 1: painful rebuild and they've been very, very patient since then.
Speaker 1: It's a poll Opster approach what matt Ishbube has done,
Speaker 1: and the Rockets are benefiting from their approach, and they're
Speaker 1: also benefiting from the Sun's approach.
Speaker 3: We've seen well, I guess with a Bain transaction, we've
Speaker 3: now seen four pretty sizable deals coupled today. CJ. McCollum
Speaker 3: is a wizard. Interesting situation there. Jordan Poole will take
Speaker 3: his talents and some other pieces involved too. Reference Baine,
Speaker 3: reference Durant. Also, Drew Holliday is a Blazer. The Jazz
Speaker 3: not involved him. I know we only have a few
Speaker 3: minutes left, so let's hone in on the local stuff.
Speaker 3: Are you hearing anything since you I last spoke about
Speaker 3: what this offseason could look like for the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, the Jazz aren't going to tank
Speaker 1: according to Austin Age, but that doesn't mean they're going
Speaker 1: to make when that trade. How foolish would it be
Speaker 1: for them to be making big splies? Actually, oh, let's
Speaker 1: win right now. You're not going to win now. They're
Speaker 1: going to have another tough view next years. They understand that. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I firmly believe if the Jazz are going
Speaker 1: to be making trades around the draft or you know,
Speaker 1: into the already stages of the off season, they will
Speaker 1: be operating as sellers. Will it be John Collins, Colin Sexton,
Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkson? I don't think it'll be Walker Kess, so
Speaker 1: that that that would surprise me. But again, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're in a position where anything but
Speaker 1: patience makes sense for them.
Speaker 3: All Right, final thing, uh, tomorrow night NBA Drafts. According
Speaker 3: to what you're hearing, do you think we'll see a
Speaker 3: lot of movement? Do you think it's going to be
Speaker 3: a fun, dramatic night or do you think it's going
Speaker 3: to kind of be status quo?
Speaker 1: No, I think there's gonna be a lot of movement
Speaker 1: and like it's already started. Right. You mentioned the Drew
Speaker 1: holiday deal, Uh, sitting into Portland, which you know that's
Speaker 1: an interesting one. Uh. You know you mentioned the McCallum
Speaker 1: pool trade today. Obviously the KD deal is already done.
Speaker 1: But the draft is a trade. The Atlanta sorts because
Speaker 1: if you're going to trade, the draft thinks you want
Speaker 1: to be able to make your own pick. And so
Speaker 1: I anticipate that it's going to be a very busy
Speaker 1: eating tomorrow and in the second round.
Speaker 3: All right, buddy, appreciate the time we'll set you loosen well.
Speaker 1: Chat soon, Okay, appreciate your brother.
Speaker 3: All right. Tim McMahon covers the NBA for ESPN covers
Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz more intensely. When the Jazz are interesting.
Speaker 3: NBA draft coming up tomorrow, we will have coverage for
Speaker 3: you right after we say good night at six o'clock
Speaker 3: on the program. The Jazz are at five. They're also
Speaker 3: at twenty one, and you know all the interesting thing
Speaker 3: about the Jazz is all of these mocks are different. Now,
Speaker 3: I like Vassini from the Athletic, Cavoni from ESPN. There
Speaker 3: are a couple of other writers that do a really
Speaker 3: good job. Cavoni's latest is Jeremiah Fears to the Jazz
Speaker 3: at five. Now, we had Zach Harper on earlier. He
Speaker 3: very much likes Jeremiah Fears, and this is probably not
Speaker 3: a fair thing to do, but whenever something works at
Speaker 3: a high level, the way this stuff goes down, like,
Speaker 3: teams will try to copy what Sam Presty has done,
Speaker 3: and teams will try to replicate what the Boston Celtics
Speaker 3: have built. Obviously didn't work this year, but they won
Speaker 3: an NBA championship. They went to like five conference finals
Speaker 3: and two championship series and one to one. And I
Speaker 3: can't help but look at the size and the lank
Speaker 3: and the athleticism of the teams that are top shelf
Speaker 3: from pro basketball right now. Jeremiah Fears is six to two.
Speaker 3: Keyante's like six', Three isaiah six to. Two LIKE i
Speaker 3: just don't know if building a roster full of guards
Speaker 3: that are small is a formula for winning basketball in
Speaker 3: the modern day and age of THE. Nba when you
Speaker 3: look at The Oklahoma City, thunder the team that just
Speaker 3: won THE Nba, championship and AGAIN i want to acknowledge
Speaker 3: how unfair this is Because Oklahoma city is, historic and
Speaker 3: we probably should have been more adamant about understanding that early.
Speaker 3: On and Even indiana fits the bill like this a little.
Speaker 3: Bit boston fully, held he certainly. Does and then there
Speaker 3: are unicorns like A Steph curry who's six, three but
Speaker 3: he's Just. Steph it's just different because he's so elite
Speaker 3: what he. Does but you look At Alex crusoe sixty,
Speaker 3: Five Lou dort six,' five shay is, sixty, Six Obviously
Speaker 3: hart andshein And shed er. Seven footers you keep going down.
Speaker 3: The List cason wallace is, sixty three plays like he's,
Speaker 3: Sixty Six aaron wiggins is, Sixty Five jalen williams the,
Speaker 3: Sixty Six kenrick williams of, six,' eight like you just
Speaker 3: simply have, to have big lengthy wings that can guard
Speaker 3: multiple positions and also not. Be liabilities offensively you know
Speaker 3: the era of like a one sided Player Like a
Speaker 3: bruce Bowen. For the spurs back, in the day there
Speaker 3: was mostly A defensive star wars who can knock down
Speaker 3: some corner, three he's. Like that's done and so if
Speaker 3: you're marching out against a team who's average height in
Speaker 3: their starting lineup is like six, five sixty six and
Speaker 3: you have two players that are under six three and
Speaker 3: your first guard off the bench is. Six to two
Speaker 3: unless all three of those players, are ultra special just
Speaker 3: think you're. Up against it so we'll See what the jazz.
Speaker 3: Do tomorrow night there are a bunch of different mocks
Speaker 3: that indicate different. Directions Are Possible kan ka nipple is
Speaker 3: a name that has risen. Up draft boards cavoni has
Speaker 3: him at Four To. The charlotte hornets it feels like
Speaker 3: the intrigue does. Start at four the, first three picks according,
Speaker 3: to most, people you know feel like they're kind. Of dialed,
Speaker 3: In of course dallas Will land On Cooper flag sham
Speaker 3: scharane reported Today that san antonio has just decided that
Speaker 3: They're Going, with dylan harper and actually He Mentioned the
Speaker 3: oklahoma city Model because san antonio of course has the
Speaker 3: rating and rookie of The Year, in stefan castle and
Speaker 3: Then of Course victor woman yama is the cornerstone. Everything
Speaker 3: they do they Also Traded. FOR diaron fox I Don't
Speaker 3: think chris paul is going to be, On the roster,
Speaker 3: so you know the redundancy TERM in the nba might
Speaker 3: be something that we need to do away with because
Speaker 3: is There redundancy Between? Shay, and jada like is there
Speaker 3: redundancy between? Those two players are they just two players
Speaker 3: that are built similarly and are both awesome and you
Speaker 3: just want as many. Players as, possible you know one
Speaker 3: of THE silliest things i can remember when people Were
Speaker 3: Discussing the boston celtics prior to them actually, winning a
Speaker 3: Championship Is Can Jalen can Jalen Brown and jason? Tatum
Speaker 3: play together is there too much redundancy between those two because,
Speaker 3: they're built similarly they both have. Similar skill sets you
Speaker 3: just want, as, many big long rangy athletic players that
Speaker 3: you can possibly get, that of course has complete skill
Speaker 3: sets that can develop. In your System so San Antonio
Speaker 3: adds dylan harper to a roster that is already young
Speaker 3: and exciting and talented and will be good for a.
Speaker 3: Long long time so it feels like that's kind. Of
Speaker 3: the deal and then all the intel as a result
Speaker 3: of the weird Situation, with as bailey who just won't work,
Speaker 3: out for anybody whether or not he. HAS a promise
Speaker 3: i think that's something we're just gonna have to wait
Speaker 3: to find out tomorrow Night is that philly HAS LANDED on.
Speaker 3: Vj edgecoma three so it feels, like tomorrow night, and
Speaker 3: again reminder We Will have draft knight coverage for you
Speaker 3: both round one, and round two as have two. Second,
Speaker 3: round picks Now if the jazz trade both second round,
Speaker 3: picks tomorrow night maybe we'll recalibrate about our. Night To coverage, but,
Speaker 3: Tomorrow night Myself Gordy, Chaser richard smith i'll be anchoring
Speaker 3: our coverage and then, For round two gordy is gonna take.
Speaker 3: The night off it'll just Be, me and smitty so
Speaker 3: we'll kind of see how. This goes down so a
Speaker 3: reminder after We see good night tomorrow at six they
Speaker 3: tuned for our live COVERAGE Of, The nba draft but
Speaker 3: after three is where it's getting where it. Gets, interesting
Speaker 3: Now Charlotte as zach, harper said earlier doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: they've gone all in on the same sort Of rebuild
Speaker 3: That utah. And washington have basically those two teams who
Speaker 3: are very front facing and obvious about their motivations a
Speaker 3: year ago to lose games on purpose for the name.
Speaker 3: Of draft capital it's, a, painful process man it is
Speaker 3: a painful process because Whether, you are utah Whether, you
Speaker 3: are washington Whether you're the pelicans who kind of, shut
Speaker 3: It Down, the brooklyn nets like all of those teams
Speaker 3: were very obvious about their motivation to be, unseerious about
Speaker 3: competing only To Watch, the Dallas Map The san antonio
Speaker 3: Spurs and the philadelphia seventy six ers get the. Top,
Speaker 3: three picks, dallas of Course Already, Has Anthony. Davis kyrie
Speaker 3: irving They Wrapped up daniel gafford with. A contract extension
Speaker 3: they've got. Really talented pieces it's not, a bad roster
Speaker 3: even though they Moved off of doncic as, we've talked
Speaker 3: about but they already have legitimately one of the top
Speaker 3: five players in the league when he's right and. When
Speaker 3: he's HEALTHY that's Who i. Think. Ad is now you
Speaker 3: could talk about he's, up in age. His health issues.
Speaker 3: All that's fair, the point is with the way this
Speaker 3: stuff is hopefully supposed to play out for the teams,
Speaker 3: that are Struggling Like, the utah jazz it's just Hard
Speaker 3: to Stomach Dallas with Anthony Davis and kyrie irving. Grabbing
Speaker 3: Number one san antonio with the two straight Winners of
Speaker 3: the Rookie Of, The year Award victor Wemen Yam. And
Speaker 3: stefan castle They just grab, harper at two And then
Speaker 3: ultimately Philly Still has Joel Embiat and paul george. On
Speaker 3: their roster now tremendous amount Of Questions about, joel embiat's
Speaker 3: health tremendous amount Of Questions about paul george's interest in,
Speaker 3: playing basketball anymore, but those two when, healthy and right
Speaker 3: are still very elite in the top upper half of
Speaker 3: superstar players. In pro basketball there are plenty of smart
Speaker 3: basketball People That believe joel embiid is as unique as
Speaker 3: anyone we've ever SEEN. In the nba the problem is he,
Speaker 3: just breaks down but they still have them. ON the
Speaker 3: roster i Didn't Even. Mention tyrese maxa YOU. Just add
Speaker 3: vj edgecomb. To that group so then the Intrigue starts in.
Speaker 3: Charlotte at Four, according to Cavoni con k nimple would be.
Speaker 3: The play there So if con canipple is the, play
Speaker 3: At four the jazz will have Their Pick, Of Jeremiah
Speaker 3: fears Ace Bailey. And trey johnson and if you want
Speaker 3: To throw the Mallawatch kid from, duke in there somebody
Speaker 3: likes him. An awful lot that's certainly a name you,
Speaker 3: could look at but that's not a horrible group of
Speaker 3: prospects to have. Your pick of If, You're the jazz
Speaker 3: cavoni Has Them. Taking jeremiah fears i've already outlined my.
Speaker 3: Concern with that if those, PLAYERS are Available i think
Speaker 3: i'll probably just Side With what zach harper just, said
Speaker 3: Earlier Today and tony jones echoed and feels like he
Speaker 3: needs to be the pick Because if The Jazz go
Speaker 3: jeremiah fears, At five again i'll go lean back on. The,
Speaker 3: term redundancy no it's not a. Super excellent parallel there's
Speaker 3: probably a little bit of a FALSE equivalency, If I
Speaker 3: say jeremiah fears is The same As. Kante or, isaiah
Speaker 3: but again it's another smallish guard that you'll have on
Speaker 3: your roster under contract for at least three, or four
Speaker 3: years depending on how the rookie. Contract Plays out the
Speaker 3: jazz need length and. They need Athletes They need the
Speaker 3: jazz have been historically pathetic defensively for. Two straight years
Speaker 3: that another smallish guard who doesn't feel like he has
Speaker 3: the length and the athleticism to EXIST in the nba
Speaker 3: just feels like. The WRONG move and i cannot coroborate
Speaker 3: or speak to what is Going On. With ace, bailey
Speaker 3: and no he didn't measure at six' ten like. We
Speaker 3: thought he would he ended up about six. OR eight
Speaker 3: without shoes i hate. The without shoes thing it's the.
Speaker 3: Dumbest thing we do you wear shoes, when you play.
Speaker 3: BASKETBALL measure in shoes i don't care how. Tall you
Speaker 3: are barefoot we're not Playing pickup ball in africa. Like
Speaker 3: we wear. Shoes THE dumbest thing so i Wouldn't mind
Speaker 3: if the Jazz landed on as bailey at five based
Speaker 3: off the intel all year long that had him as
Speaker 3: one of, the top, three prospects because no he's, not
Speaker 3: six to ten but at least he's six 's, eight
Speaker 3: with long arms a, seven to two wingspan, seven to
Speaker 3: one wingspan and he was the number three prospect pretty
Speaker 3: much all year long before this chaos kind of fell
Speaker 3: on him as a result of him not. Working Out
Speaker 3: for teams trey johnson, about six' five okay one, to
Speaker 3: ninety six' ten wingspan standing, reach eight five and to
Speaker 3: me he at least has, the upside of, Being a
Speaker 3: great great, offensive player it. Can, really shoot it can initiate.
Speaker 3: Yes all these players are young we don't. Know what they're,
Speaker 3: going to be and that's why WHETHER it's college, football
Speaker 3: recruits or nba draft picks you have to proceed with
Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of. Caution before you anoint or dismiss it's.
Speaker 3: Simply going to, take some time gavoni's latest mock there's
Speaker 3: not a ton of local. Interest in the draft This.
Speaker 3: Year that one name is YEGOR at one point he
Speaker 3: was i saw him. As high as ten Or eleven
Speaker 3: his latest Mock has jegar going Thirteen To, atlanta to
Speaker 3: play for quinn snyder which, would still be a lottery pick.
Speaker 3: BUT late lottery, pick At that i do wonder and i've,
Speaker 3: heard some people talk about this and certainly some People
Speaker 3: Rite About this the whole like ryan SMITH is. A
Speaker 3: massive donor to byu basketball he's one OF the alums
Speaker 3: THAT cares about. Byu basketball and byu athlectic department so
Speaker 3: he clearly, is part of not THE entirety but part
Speaker 3: of bankrolling byu basketball to give them the funds they
Speaker 3: need to Bring In. Talent to play for kevin young he.
Speaker 3: IS donating a lot of. MONEY i don't know how
Speaker 3: much i. Don't have access to that information but one
Speaker 3: of the things that people have talked about is is
Speaker 3: there Anything about that. They can benefit ryan's pro team and,
Speaker 3: while my initial REACTION is no the only angle i
Speaker 3: could come up With is. The, challenge That the jazz
Speaker 3: have well the jazz have. A lot of challenges right
Speaker 3: now or one of the two OR, three worst rosters
Speaker 3: in the nba it's going to be another. Really really
Speaker 3: rough year next year but when you kind of pan
Speaker 3: back from the from the vacuum mindset and talk about
Speaker 3: it for more of, a macro thirty thousand foot view
Speaker 3: if you go All the Way back to after john,
Speaker 3: and carl either retired or left the challenge that this
Speaker 3: team has had is, In this city isn't. Drafting well
Speaker 3: it isn't developing well it's retaining. The players you've DRAFTED
Speaker 3: and developed because in the. Nba it's a three tier,
Speaker 3: system you have to, draft well you have to develop.
Speaker 3: And then you have to retain the retention piece is
Speaker 3: the one piece of this puzzle this team has. Not
Speaker 3: been able to figure out so is, there anything There
Speaker 3: where for instance like jegor demon Spoke. GLOWINGLY about his time.
Speaker 3: IN provo i think he met, i don't know if
Speaker 3: they're engaged but he's DATING. A girl who met at
Speaker 3: byu will that change when he sees other. BIG cities and.
Speaker 3: Experiences other places i don't know but is there anything
Speaker 3: that we could draw from a Great experience from a
Speaker 3: player that ryan helped higher. That's the way TO, put
Speaker 3: It to play for byu that RYAN helps buy to
Speaker 3: pay for byu and THEY have a good experience, at
Speaker 3: byu and in our state and then therefore would be
Speaker 3: more Likely to stay, here if, the jazz draft them
Speaker 3: developed them and then able to retain which is the
Speaker 3: one piece of the. Puzzle this organization can't figure out
Speaker 3: it still would Be A reach to. Take jeg or
Speaker 3: deman at five. But here's A question, to ponder if
Speaker 3: you're jazz fans If You have a guarantee that yegor
Speaker 3: demon Will Play His entire Career In salt lake city
Speaker 3: and trey johnson will, leave in six or seven years
Speaker 3: who would you rather Have Six or seven years of
Speaker 3: trey johnson Or Twelve. Or, fourteen, YEARS of diego demon
Speaker 3: now again, I want to be Very clear i'm not
Speaker 3: Saying the jazz, are DRAFT diegoor demin at five but
Speaker 3: byu bought and essentially paid FOR Five months of basketball
Speaker 3: for aj debontsa to. The tune of seven million dollars
Speaker 3: ryan was one of the people that wrote a. Check
Speaker 3: TO help make that happen and i am telling you
Speaker 3: if you, have not watched this kid play he is
Speaker 3: everything he's. CRACKED up to be and more i don't
Speaker 3: think he would have been the Number One, pick this
Speaker 3: year over cooper flag but he will be talked about
Speaker 3: during the Draft Process next year the way cooper. Flag
Speaker 3: is BEING, talked about now so if aj who appears
Speaker 3: to really being enjoying His, time on the ground in
Speaker 3: provo if there's an opportunity to grab a kid like
Speaker 3: that who has experienced, our state and actually. Likes It maybe,
Speaker 3: there's something there maybe i'm reaching because of course It's
Speaker 3: not as easy if the jazz have to get THE Number,
Speaker 3: One pick to draft aj demonson But MAYBE there's something
Speaker 3: there where ryan's i don't. Think it's a conflict of
Speaker 3: interest i've heard a lot of people talk. About that
Speaker 3: and write. About It that's. Not my thing it's ryan's
Speaker 3: money he can. Do whatever he WANTS. With it he
Speaker 3: graduated FROM. Byu he very much Loves, byu he also
Speaker 3: wants the jazz but in the spirit of trying to
Speaker 3: figure out, if there's actually any synergies here maybe that's the.
Speaker 3: Angle that we could reach for it, Actually, makes Something
Speaker 3: out Of. It okay Aj Debonca jegor demon THEY know.
Speaker 3: Ryan smith as the BYU booster. He sits court side
Speaker 3: byu games he jumps on the. Backs of coaches after,
Speaker 3: they win it's a little weird. But that's kind of.
Speaker 3: His deal So They, know him they like Utah, okay
Speaker 3: they're drafted by the jazz and they actually stay here
Speaker 3: for longer than A few years because until the jazz
Speaker 3: can get that third. Piece of the puzzle dialed in and.
Speaker 3: Some Of, These Decisions, Were Trades, Darren Williams, Gordon Hayward.
Speaker 3: DONOVAN mitchell rudy gobert. Carlos boozer i could keep going
Speaker 3: the best Players that we've had here since john carl
Speaker 3: retired have stayed here, for a truncated amount of time
Speaker 3: and then they've either been traded because they got sideways
Speaker 3: with a coach or, they've Left On, their own accord
Speaker 3: like gordon hayward or they just decided they wanted to
Speaker 3: live in a different city and forced their way out
Speaker 3: And basically. Ended A Generation of, Jazz basketball like donovan
Speaker 3: mitchell did jazz, have been able to draft well. They've
Speaker 3: been able to develop well the final piece of the
Speaker 3: puzzle is how do they retain long term, To maybe
Speaker 3: finally do something special because, the fact of the matter
Speaker 3: is we have not Had A Championship contending team in salt. Lake,
Speaker 3: city since nineteen ninety, seven okay that's twenty eight years and.
Speaker 3: That's just The reality of it we have we've had
Speaker 3: some good teams another one we're kicking the. Tires on
Speaker 3: potentially winning a championship