WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.680 Next on the drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:05.599 NBA daily assists. 3 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:14.519 Van McMahon, Van McMahon that is duding old Land, Texas 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:21.920 flood as tickets, Mud He's and man Van McMahon, Van 5 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:24.000 McMahon the man. 6 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:31.320 We got the voice of you. It's Bill Riley joining us, 7 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.640 coming up in a bit. Dave Fox rolls By started 8 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.439 things off with Zach Harper. But it is a Tuesday, 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:39.719 even in June. That means it's time for our weekly 10 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.280 hit with the great Tim McMahon, Timmy, I know you're 11 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:44.759 a jam PAXI. Let's get right to it. Since you 12 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:47.320 and I last spoke, we have a deserving NBA champ. 13 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.039 How do you add color and context and not just 14 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.399 the finals run, but the entire season that we just 15 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:53.560 saw from Oklahoma City. 16 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:57.200 Yeah, I mean listen for Shake gild this, Alexander. I 17 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:01.359 mean we just witnessed one of the great individual all 18 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:04.040 around seasons in NBA history. I mean, you punch up 19 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:10.799 his numbers scoring champ uh, you know, regular season, MVP, Finals, MVP, 20 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:15.519 complete brilliance for a guy just entering his prime. And 21 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.719 then like the question of Oklahoma City, now that they've 22 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.799 gotten one is how many they've got a chance. You know, 23 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:24.480 you've got to put a couple together before you start 24 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:27.920 throwing dynasty around too much. But they've got that kind 25 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:31.239 of potential when you look at they've got one guy 26 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.519 and they're in their regular rotation who you could say 27 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:36.879 is deep into his prime. The rest of them are 28 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.480 either just starting it or not even approaching it. This 29 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.040 is going to be a force to be reckoned with 30 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.200 for a long long time to come. Certainly the team 31 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:46.920 that everybody in the NBA is going to be chasing 32 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:48.120 the next few years. 33 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:52.680 So who out this way out west exists now? With them? 34 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:56.599 The Vegas Odds basically says, well, it says Oklahoma City 35 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:59.120 is the massive favorite, but if there are two teams 36 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.040 that can actually make be making them uncomfortable, according to Vegas, 37 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.239 it's Houston with Durance and Minnesota. Do you think those 38 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.959 are the two teams that Oklahoma City needs to worry 39 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:09.879 about or they're just going to kind of do their thing. 40 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.120 Well, you know, I don't think Oklahoma City is giving 41 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:16.680 necessary worry about anybody. I would say Denver is the 42 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:18.840 team in the Western Conference that pushed them to the brink, 43 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.159 that pushed them to seven games. Denver is the one 44 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:24.000 that as a player that you can make a real 45 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:28.800 serious argument that is even a more dominant force than 46 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:31.240 Shake Gilvers Alexander. So I think you've got to include 47 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:34.080 the Nuggets in that conversation. Also, you know, Denver's the 48 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.280 last team other than Okay seeing the West to win 49 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:40.080 a championship. And you know, the Rockets I think are 50 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.560 going to be I don't know, we can play with 51 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:47.080 the semantics of contender, but man, the Rockets were a 52 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:51.080 number two seed that, in my opinion, were a go 53 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.960 to guy away from being a real threat, and they 54 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:56.520 just were not traded for Kevin Durant without giving up 55 00:02:56.520 --> 00:03:00.759 anything that I would consider to be the central part 56 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:01.879 of their long term future. 57 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:06.439 So the Pacers net net of this tim sounds like, 58 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:09.240 what an incredible run to the Game seven of the 59 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:13.439 NBA Finals, A horrible, horrible ending with Haliburton coming out 60 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.000 knocking down three threes and then doing the Achilles. So, 61 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:20.159 as somebody who witnessed this run, what's the takeaway from Indiana. 62 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.960 Side, I mean, maybe the most impressive playoff run, not 63 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.800 the end of the championship ever, certainly in recent memory. 64 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.759 When you talk about all the upsets, they pulled off 65 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:35.599 all the miraculous comebacks, the unbelievable clutch run that Tyry Haliburton, 66 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.439 and it didn't look man like, don't I don't believe 67 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:42.479 in basketball? God? After that, because for him to have 68 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.199 that kind of clutch run, to be getting it out 69 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:47.759 in a game seven, to get off to that kind 70 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.439 of a start in a game seven, and then to 71 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:55.439 get hurt in that fashion, like, man, what a tragic ending, 72 00:03:56.360 --> 00:04:00.680 What a terrible way for that run to end, And unfortunately, 73 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.240 like he probably doesn't play next year. You know, it's 74 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:07.240 probably now a gap year for the Pacers, and what 75 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:12.400 a what a tough playoffs for Eastern Conference stars, you know, 76 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:17.000 Damian Lillard, Jason Tatum, Tyre's Halbert all out most if 77 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:22.160 not all. Next year we're covering from Achilles, and you know, 78 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:24.480 the East is wide open, and I know, like there's 79 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.480 there's guys, there are stars in the Western Conference and 80 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:31.360 maybe aren't feeling like they're in a long term fit 81 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.720 right now that are looking east and saying maybe we 82 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:37.920 should be trying to get there, because it's a lot 83 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.519 easier out east than it is west. 84 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:42.879 Right now, Vegas likes Cleveland and New York and then 85 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.600 Orlando is trailing a little bit behind. Would you agree 86 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:47.759 with that assertion based off the lidney of injuries you 87 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:48.519 just referenced. 88 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:52.680 Yeah, And I really like the Deskin Bain trade for Orlando. 89 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:54.480 You know, he's never been an All Star. I would 90 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.360 say the odds of him being an All Star now 91 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:02.000 are a heck of a lot better now that he's 92 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:04.360 in the Eastern Conference. That's another reason maybe find some 93 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.199 stars that are that are looking that way and wondering 94 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.720 if that's a place that they want to be. But 95 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:14.920 I think that they really needed obviously shooting and another 96 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:18.600 guy who can create some offensively. I think he's going 97 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:22.000 to be a really, really good fit. And you know 98 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.519 that was also a sign for Memphis that hey, they 99 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:27.639 they're not close to contending in the Western Conference and 100 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.759 there's a step back type of trade to kind of reload, 101 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.480 certainly get some some draft and O, and you know, 102 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:37.160 see what they can try to do around John Morant 103 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:38.519 and Jaron Jackson Jr. 104 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.480 Let me go back to the Durant deal. Tim, since 105 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:43.560 I've been able to talk to you, do you think 106 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.439 Phoenix got enough? Do you like it from both sides? 107 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.519 Do you think there's one winner in this situation. 108 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:52.160 No, there's one winner. You know, Phoenix wasn't going to 109 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.560 get enough though, because of the circumstances. Sure, Kevin Durant 110 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.639 had a year left on his contract and he was 111 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.319 going to have control, and he was not going to 112 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.680 you know, he was like, they could have gotten more 113 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.879 from Minnesota if kat would have been willing to go there. 114 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.240 He wasn't. He didn't want to go there. So the 115 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.000 Jim wives weren't going to trade for guy who didn't 116 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:16.439 want to be there. And you know, like the Sons 117 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.160 took the deal that they had to take if they're 118 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.800 going to get a deal done for the draft. But 119 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.959 the Rockets weren't going to boost that offers. They weren't 120 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.879 going to give up a tarrees or certainly they don't 121 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.079 even ask about him in Compton. They weren't willing to 122 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.519 get up to Barison the Juni and reach Shepherd. They 123 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.480 were only willing to do a pick, not multiple picks, 124 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:39.800 and certainly not multiple of the Sun's own picks. And 125 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.879 the Spurs weren't even bat agressive and neither were they 126 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.439 heat So they took the offer they had to take. 127 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.879 But man, they're a long way from paying off the 128 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.959 trade that they made to get KT and by the way, 129 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:56.839 the team that has the most fascet s leftover from 130 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.800 that it was the freaking Houston Rockets, you know what 131 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.720 I mean? The Rio. It's funny Tillman Fatita learn some 132 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.800 tough lessons early on the Chris Paul Trey was a disaster, right, 133 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.000 but he learned his lessons and they went through a 134 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.439 painful rebuild and they've been very, very patient since then. 135 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:16.199 It's a poll Opster approach what matt Ishbube has done, 136 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.720 and the Rockets are benefiting from their approach, and they're 137 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:20.399 also benefiting from the Sun's approach. 138 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:23.920 We've seen well, I guess with a Bain transaction, we've 139 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:27.839 now seen four pretty sizable deals coupled today. CJ. McCollum 140 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:32.480 is a wizard. Interesting situation there. Jordan Poole will take 141 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.759 his talents and some other pieces involved too. Reference Baine, 142 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.759 reference Durant. Also, Drew Holliday is a Blazer. The Jazz 143 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:41.399 not involved him. I know we only have a few 144 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.240 minutes left, so let's hone in on the local stuff. 145 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.160 Are you hearing anything since you I last spoke about 146 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.399 what this offseason could look like for the Utah Jazz. 147 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:53.000 Well, I mean, listen, the Jazz aren't going to tank 148 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.319 according to Austin Age, but that doesn't mean they're going 149 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.160 to make when that trade. How foolish would it be 150 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.240 for them to be making big splies? Actually, oh, let's 151 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.800 win right now. You're not going to win now. They're 152 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:06.560 going to have another tough view next years. They understand that. So, 153 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:10.319 you know, I firmly believe if the Jazz are going 154 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.879 to be making trades around the draft or you know, 155 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.639 into the already stages of the off season, they will 156 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:19.879 be operating as sellers. Will it be John Collins, Colin Sexton, 157 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.639 Jordan Clarkson? I don't think it'll be Walker Kess, so 158 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.800 that that that would surprise me. But again, you know, 159 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.920 I don't think they're in a position where anything but 160 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:31.759 patience makes sense for them. 161 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:36.679 All Right, final thing, uh, tomorrow night NBA Drafts. According 162 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:38.879 to what you're hearing, do you think we'll see a 163 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:40.279 lot of movement? Do you think it's going to be 164 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.000 a fun, dramatic night or do you think it's going 165 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:43.039 to kind of be status quo? 166 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:45.840 No, I think there's gonna be a lot of movement 167 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.720 and like it's already started. Right. You mentioned the Drew 168 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.720 holiday deal, Uh, sitting into Portland, which you know that's 169 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.799 an interesting one. Uh. You know you mentioned the McCallum 170 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:59.600 pool trade today. Obviously the KD deal is already done. 171 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.600 But the draft is a trade. The Atlanta sorts because 172 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:04.480 if you're going to trade, the draft thinks you want 173 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:06.840 to be able to make your own pick. And so 174 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:09.240 I anticipate that it's going to be a very busy 175 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.519 eating tomorrow and in the second round. 176 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:14.879 All right, buddy, appreciate the time we'll set you loosen well. 177 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:16.919 Chat soon, Okay, appreciate your brother. 178 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:21.080 All right. Tim McMahon covers the NBA for ESPN covers 179 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:24.519 the Utah Jazz more intensely. When the Jazz are interesting. 180 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:28.399 NBA draft coming up tomorrow, we will have coverage for 181 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.559 you right after we say good night at six o'clock 182 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:32.720 on the program. The Jazz are at five. They're also 183 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.399 at twenty one, and you know all the interesting thing 184 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.759 about the Jazz is all of these mocks are different. Now, 185 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:44.279 I like Vassini from the Athletic, Cavoni from ESPN. There 186 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.159 are a couple of other writers that do a really 187 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.000 good job. Cavoni's latest is Jeremiah Fears to the Jazz 188 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.360 at five. Now, we had Zach Harper on earlier. He 189 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:57.320 very much likes Jeremiah Fears, and this is probably not 190 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:00.600 a fair thing to do, but whenever something works at 191 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.120 a high level, the way this stuff goes down, like, 192 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.080 teams will try to copy what Sam Presty has done, 193 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.840 and teams will try to replicate what the Boston Celtics 194 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.039 have built. Obviously didn't work this year, but they won 195 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:15.559 an NBA championship. They went to like five conference finals 196 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:20.440 and two championship series and one to one. And I 197 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.879 can't help but look at the size and the lank 198 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.159 and the athleticism of the teams that are top shelf 199 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.440 from pro basketball right now. Jeremiah Fears is six to two. 200 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.720 Keyante's like six', Three isaiah six to. Two LIKE i 201 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.919 just don't know if building a roster full of guards 202 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:40.279 that are small is a formula for winning basketball in 203 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:41.960 the modern day and age of THE. Nba when you 204 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:44.480 look at The Oklahoma City, thunder the team that just 205 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:48.000 won THE Nba, championship and AGAIN i want to acknowledge 206 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.120 how unfair this is Because Oklahoma city is, historic and 207 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:55.279 we probably should have been more adamant about understanding that early. 208 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:59.000 On and Even indiana fits the bill like this a little. 209 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:02.039 Bit boston fully, held he certainly. Does and then there 210 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.440 are unicorns like A Steph curry who's six, three but 211 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:06.799 he's Just. Steph it's just different because he's so elite 212 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.080 what he. Does but you look At Alex crusoe sixty, 213 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:13.799 Five Lou dort six,' five shay is, sixty, Six Obviously 214 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.080 hart andshein And shed er. Seven footers you keep going down. 215 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.360 The List cason wallace is, sixty three plays like he's, 216 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.440 Sixty Six aaron wiggins is, Sixty Five jalen williams the, 217 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:26.399 Sixty Six kenrick williams of, six,' eight like you just 218 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.679 simply have, to have big lengthy wings that can guard 219 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:34.879 multiple positions and also not. Be liabilities offensively you know 220 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.159 the era of like a one sided Player Like a 221 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.159 bruce Bowen. For the spurs back, in the day there 222 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.279 was mostly A defensive star wars who can knock down 223 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:44.399 some corner, three he's. Like that's done and so if 224 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:47.559 you're marching out against a team who's average height in 225 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.600 their starting lineup is like six, five sixty six and 226 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.840 you have two players that are under six three and 227 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:54.559 your first guard off the bench is. Six to two 228 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.879 unless all three of those players, are ultra special just 229 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.840 think you're. Up against it so we'll See what the jazz. 230 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.679 Do tomorrow night there are a bunch of different mocks 231 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:08.919 that indicate different. Directions Are Possible kan ka nipple is 232 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.200 a name that has risen. Up draft boards cavoni has 233 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:14.399 him at Four To. The charlotte hornets it feels like 234 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:19.240 the intrigue does. Start at four the, first three picks according, 235 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.840 to most, people you know feel like they're kind. Of dialed, 236 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:25.159 In of course dallas Will land On Cooper flag sham 237 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:28.200 scharane reported Today that san antonio has just decided that 238 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:32.279 They're Going, with dylan harper and actually He Mentioned the 239 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.759 oklahoma city Model because san antonio of course has the 240 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.159 rating and rookie of The Year, in stefan castle and 241 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:42.080 Then of Course victor woman yama is the cornerstone. Everything 242 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:45.679 they do they Also Traded. FOR diaron fox I Don't 243 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:47.159 think chris paul is going to be, On the roster, 244 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:51.600 so you know the redundancy TERM in the nba might 245 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:53.840 be something that we need to do away with because 246 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.840 is There redundancy Between? Shay, and jada like is there 247 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.360 redundancy between? Those two players are they just two players 248 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.320 that are built similarly and are both awesome and you 249 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:05.000 just want as many. Players as, possible you know one 250 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.679 of THE silliest things i can remember when people Were 251 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:10.559 Discussing the boston celtics prior to them actually, winning a 252 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:14.600 Championship Is Can Jalen can Jalen Brown and jason? Tatum 253 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:17.600 play together is there too much redundancy between those two because, 254 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.159 they're built similarly they both have. Similar skill sets you 255 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:25.399 just want, as, many big long rangy athletic players that 256 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.200 you can possibly get, that of course has complete skill 257 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.240 sets that can develop. In your System so San Antonio 258 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.480 adds dylan harper to a roster that is already young 259 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:37.039 and exciting and talented and will be good for a. 260 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:38.799 Long long time so it feels like that's kind. Of 261 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.279 the deal and then all the intel as a result 262 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.080 of the weird Situation, with as bailey who just won't work, 263 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.200 out for anybody whether or not he. HAS a promise 264 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:48.720 i think that's something we're just gonna have to wait 265 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.320 to find out tomorrow Night is that philly HAS LANDED on. 266 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.279 Vj edgecoma three so it feels, like tomorrow night, and 267 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.080 again reminder We Will have draft knight coverage for you 268 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:00.840 both round one, and round two as have two. Second, 269 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:04.000 round picks Now if the jazz trade both second round, 270 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:07.120 picks tomorrow night maybe we'll recalibrate about our. Night To coverage, but, 271 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:10.279 Tomorrow night Myself Gordy, Chaser richard smith i'll be anchoring 272 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:13.960 our coverage and then, For round two gordy is gonna take. 273 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.519 The night off it'll just Be, me and smitty so 274 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:18.240 we'll kind of see how. This goes down so a 275 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.279 reminder after We see good night tomorrow at six they 276 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.559 tuned for our live COVERAGE Of, The nba draft but 277 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.879 after three is where it's getting where it. Gets, interesting 278 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.960 Now Charlotte as zach, harper said earlier doesn't feel like 279 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:32.440 they've gone all in on the same sort Of rebuild 280 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:35.879 That utah. And washington have basically those two teams who 281 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:38.960 are very front facing and obvious about their motivations a 282 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:40.960 year ago to lose games on purpose for the name. 283 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.960 Of draft capital it's, a, painful process man it is 284 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.279 a painful process because Whether, you are utah Whether, you 285 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.559 are washington Whether you're the pelicans who kind of, shut 286 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:53.519 It Down, the brooklyn nets like all of those teams 287 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.919 were very obvious about their motivation to be, unseerious about 288 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:01.919 competing only To Watch, the Dallas Map The san antonio 289 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.679 Spurs and the philadelphia seventy six ers get the. Top, 290 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:08.559 three picks, dallas of Course Already, Has Anthony. Davis kyrie 291 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.360 irving They Wrapped up daniel gafford with. A contract extension 292 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:15.200 they've got. Really talented pieces it's not, a bad roster 293 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.440 even though they Moved off of doncic as, we've talked 294 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.919 about but they already have legitimately one of the top 295 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.799 five players in the league when he's right and. When 296 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:25.639 he's HEALTHY that's Who i. Think. Ad is now you 297 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.240 could talk about he's, up in age. His health issues. 298 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.120 All that's fair, the point is with the way this 299 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.600 stuff is hopefully supposed to play out for the teams, 300 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:36.320 that are Struggling Like, the utah jazz it's just Hard 301 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:40.080 to Stomach Dallas with Anthony Davis and kyrie irving. Grabbing 302 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:44.759 Number one san antonio with the two straight Winners of 303 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:46.679 the Rookie Of, The year Award victor Wemen Yam. And 304 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.720 stefan castle They just grab, harper at two And then 305 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.240 ultimately Philly Still has Joel Embiat and paul george. On 306 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:55.879 their roster now tremendous amount Of Questions about, joel embiat's 307 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.799 health tremendous amount Of Questions about paul george's interest in, 308 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.600 playing basketball anymore, but those two when, healthy and right 309 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.960 are still very elite in the top upper half of 310 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.720 superstar players. In pro basketball there are plenty of smart 311 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:11.960 basketball People That believe joel embiid is as unique as 312 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.480 anyone we've ever SEEN. In the nba the problem is he, 313 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.000 just breaks down but they still have them. ON the 314 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.440 roster i Didn't Even. Mention tyrese maxa YOU. Just add 315 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:22.799 vj edgecomb. To that group so then the Intrigue starts in. 316 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:26.840 Charlotte at Four, according to Cavoni con k nimple would be. 317 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.279 The play there So if con canipple is the, play 318 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.639 At four the jazz will have Their Pick, Of Jeremiah 319 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.559 fears Ace Bailey. And trey johnson and if you want 320 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:38.840 To throw the Mallawatch kid from, duke in there somebody 321 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.240 likes him. An awful lot that's certainly a name you, 322 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.360 could look at but that's not a horrible group of 323 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.240 prospects to have. Your pick of If, You're the jazz 324 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.600 cavoni Has Them. Taking jeremiah fears i've already outlined my. 325 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.879 Concern with that if those, PLAYERS are Available i think 326 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:57.200 i'll probably just Side With what zach harper just, said 327 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.759 Earlier Today and tony jones echoed and feels like he 328 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.200 needs to be the pick Because if The Jazz go 329 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:05.960 jeremiah fears, At five again i'll go lean back on. The, 330 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:10.200 term redundancy no it's not a. Super excellent parallel there's 331 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.160 probably a little bit of a FALSE equivalency, If I 332 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.240 say jeremiah fears is The same As. Kante or, isaiah 333 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:17.920 but again it's another smallish guard that you'll have on 334 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.119 your roster under contract for at least three, or four 335 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.119 years depending on how the rookie. Contract Plays out the 336 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.519 jazz need length and. They need Athletes They need the 337 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.000 jazz have been historically pathetic defensively for. Two straight years 338 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.640 that another smallish guard who doesn't feel like he has 339 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:36.039 the length and the athleticism to EXIST in the nba 340 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.440 just feels like. The WRONG move and i cannot coroborate 341 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:42.000 or speak to what is Going On. With ace, bailey 342 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:44.839 and no he didn't measure at six' ten like. We 343 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:47.200 thought he would he ended up about six. OR eight 344 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.519 without shoes i hate. The without shoes thing it's the. 345 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.759 Dumbest thing we do you wear shoes, when you play. 346 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.839 BASKETBALL measure in shoes i don't care how. Tall you 347 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.119 are barefoot we're not Playing pickup ball in africa. Like 348 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.559 we wear. Shoes THE dumbest thing so i Wouldn't mind 349 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.880 if the Jazz landed on as bailey at five based 350 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:07.799 off the intel all year long that had him as 351 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.160 one of, the top, three prospects because no he's, not 352 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:11.559 six to ten but at least he's six 's, eight 353 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:16.359 with long arms a, seven to two wingspan, seven to 354 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.119 one wingspan and he was the number three prospect pretty 355 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:21.799 much all year long before this chaos kind of fell 356 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:24.519 on him as a result of him not. Working Out 357 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:28.720 for teams trey johnson, about six' five okay one, to 358 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:33.319 ninety six' ten wingspan standing, reach eight five and to 359 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.880 me he at least has, the upside of, Being a 360 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.759 great great, offensive player it. Can, really shoot it can initiate. 361 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:41.960 Yes all these players are young we don't. Know what they're, 362 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:44.480 going to be and that's why WHETHER it's college, football 363 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:48.240 recruits or nba draft picks you have to proceed with 364 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.839 a tremendous amount of. Caution before you anoint or dismiss it's. 365 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.640 Simply going to, take some time gavoni's latest mock there's 366 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.680 not a ton of local. Interest in the draft This. 367 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:01.160 Year that one name is YEGOR at one point he 368 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.000 was i saw him. As high as ten Or eleven 369 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.200 his latest Mock has jegar going Thirteen To, atlanta to 370 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.119 play for quinn snyder which, would still be a lottery pick. 371 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:13.319 BUT late lottery, pick At that i do wonder and i've, 372 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:16.039 heard some people talk about this and certainly some People 373 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:20.000 Rite About this the whole like ryan SMITH is. A 374 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:24.119 massive donor to byu basketball he's one OF the alums 375 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:27.759 THAT cares about. Byu basketball and byu athlectic department so 376 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:31.119 he clearly, is part of not THE entirety but part 377 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:34.960 of bankrolling byu basketball to give them the funds they 378 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:37.839 need to Bring In. Talent to play for kevin young he. 379 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:39.640 IS donating a lot of. MONEY i don't know how 380 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.920 much i. Don't have access to that information but one 381 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:44.640 of the things that people have talked about is is 382 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:49.000 there Anything about that. They can benefit ryan's pro team and, 383 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:52.640 while my initial REACTION is no the only angle i 384 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.480 could come up With is. The, challenge That the jazz 385 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:59.359 have well the jazz have. A lot of challenges right 386 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.119 now or one of the two OR, three worst rosters 387 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.480 in the nba it's going to be another. Really really 388 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:07.839 rough year next year but when you kind of pan 389 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.039 back from the from the vacuum mindset and talk about 390 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:13.359 it for more of, a macro thirty thousand foot view 391 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:15.920 if you go All the Way back to after john, 392 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:19.640 and carl either retired or left the challenge that this 393 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.720 team has had is, In this city isn't. Drafting well 394 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.440 it isn't developing well it's retaining. The players you've DRAFTED 395 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.599 and developed because in the. Nba it's a three tier, 396 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:32.880 system you have to, draft well you have to develop. 397 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:35.960 And then you have to retain the retention piece is 398 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.839 the one piece of this puzzle this team has. Not 399 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:40.480 been able to figure out so is, there anything There 400 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:44.279 where for instance like jegor demon Spoke. GLOWINGLY about his time. 401 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:45.799