1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: This is Pet Life Radio. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: Let's talk pets. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Human Animal Connection Show, where we believe 4 00:00:10,599 --> 00:00:14,439 we can communicate with all animals. Join us as we 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,760 explore the thirty three principles and healing methods of the 6 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:21,480 Human Animal Connection. As animal lovers, we know that you 7 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:24,800 share our commitment to making the world a kinder place 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,559 for all creatures. Together, let's embrace the transformative healing power 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,039 of the Human Animal Connection. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: Hello everyone, welcome to the Human Animal Connection Podcast. I'm 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,200 your host and the executive director of the Human Animal Connection. 12 00:00:41,719 --> 00:00:45,159 I am so excited to speak to doctor David Talsa. 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,520 She is not only a veterinarian, but she is a 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:56,240 holistic veterinarian. She has over thirty years of wellness practices acupuncture, homeopathy, 15 00:00:56,679 --> 00:00:59,159 so she brings the best of both worlds. And I 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,799 know we're going to answer some questions that a lot 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,959 of our listeners have about allergies and the animals they 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,439 share their lives with. This is a question that confounds 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,920 many people, and many veterinarians are kind of throwing up 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,719 their hands. They don't know what to do next. So 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,799 I know you've got some wonderful solutions. Now, Doctor Calso 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,480 has written several books, including this one. You can see 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,400 all my notes in it. Doctor Kelsa's Natural Dog, and 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,920 it's all about holistic therapies and nutrition for healthier animals. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,519 So doctor Calsa, thank you so much for being our 26 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:31,159 guest today. 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,439 Speaker 2: Oh it's my absolute pleasure. We're going to have a 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,359 good time and also your listeners are really going to 29 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:39,000 learn quite a lot because yeah, I know, no, we're 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,079 running the hamster wheel of allergies. If constant, you know, 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,359 they're checking dog food, they're worrying about this. They're taking 32 00:01:46,359 --> 00:01:48,200 all these tests and a lot of them are bogus, 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,439 and then they're avoiding foods that don't make any difference 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,599 and feeding foods that aren't correct. And it's not about food, 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,719 it's really about the immune system. And we're going to 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,120 learn a lot. So where shall I start. 37 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: Let's start with the immune syste explain how the immune 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,920 system and allergies work together perfect. 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,959 Speaker 2: The immune system is a computer. So when you get 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,439 your POLO shot when you're a kid, you're good for 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,520 life because your immune system remembers that it's an enemy. Right. 42 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:18,159 Your immune system logs in friends and enemies, and it 43 00:02:18,199 --> 00:02:21,439 does it in a way that is very concrete and 44 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:24,800 it's very very how can I say, set up not 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,840 to make mistakes? Right? When you get vaccinations that have 46 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,639 adjuvants which are aluminum and foods and different things, and 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,680 then it causes the body to start to become more 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,800 reactive to foods in different things, and it starts almost 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,159 a computer program, like a corrupted computer program in the 50 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:44,879 pet's body. And that corrupted computer program. If there's only 51 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:46,879 a few things, you do not going to see anything. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,879 But if there's enough, you're going to start to see 53 00:02:49,319 --> 00:02:52,639 the symptoms of allergies in your dog. And typically they 54 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,840 present as GI problems which they can't tell very foods. 55 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:00,159 They have lots of different forms of GI distress and 56 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:05,000 also itching and scratching their skin. So what's happening, you know, 57 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,919 with this immune system? Why is this happening and why 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,360 is it working this way? And we have so many 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:16,560 generations of dogs in which allergies are present that everyone 60 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,080 gets used to it and they think it's normal, and 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,360 they run the Empster wheel of checking everything out the food, 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,080 that this, that, that, running to the vet all the 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,159 time for secondary yeast infections, secondary bacterial infections. And then 64 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:30,639 what happens is they just get so used to it 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 it becomes their entire life, I mean their entire life, 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,599 taking anything that's problematic out of the house. You know, 67 00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:40,719 it's a whole thing. So that's the real problem. The 68 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:43,520 real problem is the computer program that the immune system 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,400 is logged in where it's certain things are enemies and 70 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:51,000 certain things we're friends. Makes sense, Yes, absolutely, Pharmaceutical companies 71 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:56,520 work to Pharmaceutical companies don't make money. If they are 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,520 going to cure something, they won't make me. You have 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,159 to have re So what they do, because the immune 74 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,400 system is misbehaving analogies is whack them all the immune system. 75 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,840 They knock it down and make it non functional. Then 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,560 you have to keep giving the medicine and giving the medicine. 77 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,000 And with generations of dogs having these problems, it's gotten 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,439 so that more and more dogs have allergies. I have 79 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,319 a book called The Allergic Pet, ending the Epidemic of 80 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:22,800 Pet Allergies, and that's my most recent book. And the 81 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:26,600 thing is is that you're just making the problem worse 82 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:30,040 because then the babies get very allergic. Let's say you're 83 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:32,240 showing dogs and you're going to breed them, and you 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,439 can't have that hot spot right before they're going to 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,639 get titled. You give them oppressive allergy drug. If they 86 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:39,959 get a little bit of allergies, then you take them, 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,000 you know, then you read them, and then you tell 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,600 the puppies it's a it's a downward spiral that we're 89 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:46,879 and it has to stop. 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,759 Speaker 3: And it's actually very easy to treat, very Okay, Okay, 91 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:53,560 Now you've been in this field for quite a long time. 92 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:56,560 Is the situation getting better or worse? Would you say overall? 93 00:04:57,319 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Way worse? What I would Actually I'd been to 94 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,160 that for forty three years. 95 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: Okay, So I think you've seen things get a lot worse. 96 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,360 I mean, I think if we go back to say, 97 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,160 our grandparents' dogs and we were not seeing this kind yeah, 98 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:15,040 we didn't see this kind of itching and digestive disorders 99 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:17,839 and all of this kind of stuff. So clearly the 100 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:21,000 situation is getting a lot worse. So what are some 101 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:24,439 of the things that you tell your clients to start doing. 102 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, Actually, I find out what the immune system is 103 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:30,839 reacting incorrectly to, I make them up a program, and 104 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:33,720 on the level of physics, I correct it. So this 105 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:36,480 is going to get a little esoteric. But let me 106 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,639 just explain something so that people can sort of have 107 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,560 a feel for how it all works. We have mass 108 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,720 cells around our eyes and they produce histamine, and that 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,319 histamine is very, very itchy and makes us scratch, makes 110 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,199 us itch causes inflammation. So with rablee, you know, we 111 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,399 rub our eyes, Our eyes get puffy, our eyes get hot. 112 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,079 Dogs have those same mass cells and ten times the 113 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:01,199 concentration on their bodies. We're set up like dogs. And 114 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,279 we had ragweed allergies, we'd be scratching our date tlutage bloody, 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,839 we'd be chewing our arms, we'd be scratching our butts. 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,720 You see, not what dogs do, and yet scratch itch cycle, 117 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,439 which is the mosquito bite I call it the mosquito 118 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:16,959 bite syndrome. Your mother says, if you keep scratching that 119 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,519 mosquito bute, you're only going to scratch more. Right. What 120 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,920 happens is the dog starts chewing and then it choose 121 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,680 more and to choose more. But because the area is 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,199 warm and moist, secondary bacterial infections yeast infections, a yeast 123 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,560 called maladesia can take play and it becomes a never 124 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:36,399 ending cycle of antibiotics and amino suppressants, and a lot 125 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:38,920 of people are very familiar with that. And the pharmaceutical 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,959 companies are coming up, would they consider better and better 127 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:45,800 amino suppressants? And I consider them far more dangerous. So 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,560 what simply is an immune system computer? And the computer 129 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:53,079 is logged in improperly. So let's say that you have 130 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,959 a laptop and you bought it. It's ten years old, 131 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,360 five years old, it's not working right. The little wheel 132 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:01,439 keeps going, going and go, and you're going, maybe I 133 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:03,439 need a new one. And you hire someone to come 134 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,639 into your house who knows computers better than you. And 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,439 what they do is they take out the corruptive programs. 136 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,079 And that's what an allergy is got, the viruses that 137 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,399 are in the immunes in the computer. I'm not talking 138 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:18,959 about people viruses or dog viruses. I'm talking about a 139 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,079 program that they're making things work. They throw it in 140 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:25,519 the trash, they clean out your cookies, clean out your cash, 141 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,120 and suddenly your computer's working great. And that's what I 142 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,720 do with allergy elimination for pets is something that was 143 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:35,680 used on humans for many, many years, and I originally 144 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,439 learned it as a human technique which was called nae t. 145 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:43,279 I learned it forty years ago. It was done all 146 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:46,879 over the world, all of them very successfully. I'll give 147 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:49,439 you an example. There was someone in my practice who 148 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:52,560 treated people and one woman was so allergic to bees 149 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,120 that she have an epinephrine shot that was so huge 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,480 that would stop her heart. So they would roll the 151 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:02,480 paddles and so there she was ready, you know, bit 152 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:04,639 by a bee at the hospital. They knew her because 153 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:06,519 you know, people who were allergic to cats or bees 154 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,399 are always drawn to them, and bit by a bee 155 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:11,360 more than most. And they had everything ready because they 156 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:13,319 knew they would have to shock her heart back into 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,160 into functioning. And she was treated for bees, not by me, 158 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,199 but by a human practitioner a few how to be 159 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,160 a few times because she was so allergic, and she'd 160 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,519 have been by bee and sat in front of the 161 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:30,199 emergency room for five hours and nothing happened. It really 162 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:34,480 truly works. It's actually an amazing thing. And I've been 163 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,480 doing it for thirty or forty years, and there's actually 164 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,600 a reason for this, which moves to the level of 165 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,159 physics and moves off of the level of biology, which 166 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,559 is where this is going now. Yeah, yeah, well I 167 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,440 think it's so fascinating. The point you made earlier, I 168 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,000 just want to repeat it, which is, the pharmaceutical industries 169 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,600 have no incentive to cure problems. They have incentives to 170 00:08:56,799 --> 00:09:00,120 maintain problems so that you need to continually refill this prescription. 171 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,639 So you know, this is why we're in this kind 172 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,240 of catch twenty two situation. You know, I mean the 173 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:07,799 people living with animals, they see their animals suffering and 174 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,519 they want to fix it right now, you know. They 175 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:13,399 want something that's going to make that symptoms disappear, and 176 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,480 yet they may be putting themselves into a situation where 177 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,159 it's perpetuating instead of really truly helping or really solving. 178 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:23,279 While diet is not the whole issue of this, what 179 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,639 are some of the components of diet that come into 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,960 play when you're looking at allergies. Well, doctors get allergic 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,759 to late text gloves commonly, and they order text free 182 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:35,679 gloves because we snap them on all the time, and 183 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,200 we tend to feed dogs the same food all the time, 184 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,240 particularly allergic dogs. So in the old days, when allergies 185 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,000 weren't as deep seated and weren't as prevalent as they 186 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,679 are now, what would happen is we would take the 187 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:52,679 veterinarian not knowing why, because the vaccines contain chicken embryos 188 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,600 and bovine serum. That's beef and chicken. The adjuvant, which 189 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:00,159 an adjuvant in a vaccine works on the immune system, 190 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,960 just as if you had someone in the military getting 191 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,519 methamphetamines before they went into battle. So it really gends 192 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,919 it up. It starts to react against these food So 193 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,720 they put a dog on lamb and the dog would do, okay, lamb. 194 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,519 I remember when we were kids. They would just do 195 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,879 their thing, and then nine months later the dog would 196 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,960 be itching again because now it had become allergic to 197 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,279 lamb because it was eating it every day. And you 198 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,240 tend to become allergic or reactive to things that you 199 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:32,120 are fed all the time. Just sideline this and say 200 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:36,639 that food sensitivities and food intolerances are fifteen times more 201 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:43,000 common than food allergies. They are, and they're delayed reactions. 202 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:46,360 This gets even better. They occur from seven to twenty 203 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:49,159 eight days after you feed the food. So wow, I 204 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,840 can on the first of the month and go to 205 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:53,360 the bank on the fourteenth, and the lady without asking 206 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:56,000 you slips your dog a little treat in the back seat, 207 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,399 you know, through the window. I can at night, your 208 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:01,279 dog starts itching that night, you're angry at the lady, 209 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:04,240 and it's actually the chicken that you said two weeks before. 210 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,039 So the thing is that it's really confusing because you 211 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,919 don't understand what is really causing that problem. And meanwhile 212 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,399 you're changing foods, running from food to food, and the 213 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,639 minute you land on a food and you think it's good, 214 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,879 you feed it every day because you're so happy things 215 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:25,919 are better, right, And what happens is eventually they're going 216 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,720 to get reactive to it, either a food sensitivity, a 217 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:34,039 food intolerance, or an allergy. Every single person, well not 218 00:11:34,159 --> 00:11:36,120 every single person, but gee, a lot of people because 219 00:11:36,159 --> 00:11:38,600 I see a lot of allergy cases on my consultations. 220 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,399 It feeds their dog fish oils when they're coming to me, 221 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,879 or omega threes because they're home that the omega threes 222 00:11:44,919 --> 00:11:47,919 will help. Well, they will talk about how fish oils 223 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,159 have no omega threes. Yeahzi right. 224 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: Plus by the time you get them, they're probably not 225 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,519 bioavailable anyway, Right, they don't live the veryous short shelf life, right, 226 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:01,480 they're opened. Yeah, Yeah. 227 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: The reason we buy them is because they're so friable, 228 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,879 so fragile to air and light, that they're not in 229 00:12:08,919 --> 00:12:11,639 any of our food. You know, the sermon may have it, 230 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,600 but you cook it and they're gone. So that's why 231 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:18,039 we buy them. But then they wash the fish oil 232 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,080 and ace the tone and bleach. Think they survive that. No. 233 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:24,559 I used to. I used to make vitamins, and I 234 00:12:24,879 --> 00:12:26,440 would go to trade shows and there was a bunch 235 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,279 of Norwegian guys with five gallons, you know, tank metal 236 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,080 tanks of omega threes, and so I said to them, 237 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,360 are there really omega threes in there? And they left? 238 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:38,559 They say, now I knew, They said yeah. Or I said, 239 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 so what happens when that drop is suspended in the 240 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:44,080 air for fraction of a second before it enters the 241 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:47,080 gel cap and the gel cap closes? They said, oh, 242 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,600 we're not responsible for that part. 243 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: Ah. 244 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to understand your supplements. There's a company 245 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,519 called Resvantage. It's a very good company make residiratual products. 246 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:00,279 Whereas there a tool is as friable or all as 247 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,159 fragile as omega threes. And told me he packaged it 248 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,679 at a Pfiser facility, and I said, do you package 249 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,840 an herbit a Ffiser facility? He said, well, when Ffiser 250 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,559 are bought this company, they inherited this room. We pump 251 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,879 it a fall of nitrogen. We then have everything packaged 252 00:13:17,919 --> 00:13:20,879 in the capsules and they're oxygen resistant capsules, and then 253 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:23,120 we put them in little pockets that you have to 254 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,679 pop the pill out of, and so everything is surrounded 255 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,919 in nitrogen so that this resva torol is actually active. 256 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:32,039 And you buy something that's not from this company with 257 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:35,240 resdvantage and what happens is you wind up with a 258 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:37,200 product that's been exposed to the air and there's nothing 259 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,120 left in it. Well, yes, some things like supplements like calcium, 260 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,440 you can do anything to it. Okay, there's not going 261 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,679 to be a problem. But certain things are so delicate, 262 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:47,799 and Omega threes are one of them. But to get 263 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,679 back to my point, every dog that's on Omega three 264 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,759 fish oil every day is allergic to fish. 265 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 266 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: Is there taking it? 267 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 268 00:13:57,639 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: No. 269 00:13:57,759 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: I was one of those people who thought the fish 270 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,919 oil we were supposed to get them off and been 271 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:04,759 off it for a couple of years now. But it's yeah, 272 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:06,679 we've been sold a bill of goods by a lot 273 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,080 of these products that look good on paper, you know, 274 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:11,120 like they seem like they would be the things that 275 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:13,639 we need to do in fact or not. What about 276 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,879 those sardines? Sardines are you know or are are those 277 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:19,279 are a healthy way of getting those omega threes? 278 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: What would they be? Their process, their package. The minute 279 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,200 that drop of oil goes is suspended for a fraction 280 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:28,320 of a second, the omega threes are gone. The best 281 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,799 way to get omega threes is chia seeds. You put 282 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,080 a half a cup of chia seeds into a bowl, 283 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:34,519 and then you had two and a half cups of 284 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,320 something bone brought, chicken broth, something your dog would like. 285 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:40,639 For people, you put almond milk in you could put 286 00:14:40,679 --> 00:14:44,399 you know, yogurt, keyfer whatever, liquid, and then you put 287 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,399 it in the fridge. Now, because it's in a liquid, 288 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,600 it doesn't hit the oxygen doesn't. So these little cells sat, 289 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:56,080 these little these little grains soften and they expand and 290 00:14:56,159 --> 00:15:00,039 so they become a pudding. And then heaping teaspoon on 291 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,759 your tablespoon every day and all everything that's in that 292 00:15:02,799 --> 00:15:06,679 liquid is all precious and good because it hasn't. 293 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,879 Speaker 3: Been exposed to the air. Okay, so expensive, yeah, right. 294 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,720 So the geo seeds that you have in the package, 295 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:15,320 though you shouldn't be giving them those. Just the geo 296 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,320 seeds by themselves, they get it right, okay, okay. 297 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: And if you grind them up in the blender. The 298 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,919 minute you grind them up in the blender, you expose 299 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,159 all the omega threes to air again and they're gone. Yeah. 300 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: Wild stuff. 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If you like what you're hearing and want 317 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:32,039 to learn more, check out doctor Joseph's book The Human 318 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:38,399 Animal Connection, Deepening Relationships with Animals and Ourselves, or visit 319 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:44,240 the website The Humananimalconnection dot org to book an online consultation. 320 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Thank you for loving animals. Now back to the. 321 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 5: Show Let's Talk pets on petlifradio dot com. 322 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,399 Speaker 3: Welcome back to The Human Animal Connection where I'm speaking 323 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,759 with veterinarian doctor David Kelsa. She's the author of Natural 324 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:09,759 Dog and several other books. And we're talking about allergies today. 325 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:12,119 And I know you get a lot of patients coming 326 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,880 to you with allergy problems that have you know, just 327 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,799 have them been able to find solutions. Walk us through 328 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:19,680 a little bit about how you would begin to address 329 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:21,680 let's say a dog coming in a lot of scratching. 330 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,599 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'd take the history and I'd 331 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,599 look at toxins that the dogs was exposed to. I'd 332 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:30,359 look at the medical history and things like that, and 333 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,319 then i would look if the dog had a secondary 334 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:35,759 bacterial infection or had anything on it like that was 335 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:38,920 this yeast called malassia, which is a dark yeast that 336 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,440 causes a lot of itching too. And then I would 337 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,519 after I took the case, I would move along to 338 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,880 actually curing it. Now, there are a lot of ways 339 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:53,519 that people approach allergies. The pharmaceutical industrial complex does suppression. 340 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,519 They suppress the immune system because you can't just fix 341 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,799 it because if you don't, if you just fix it, 342 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:00,839 you don't have a bottom line far as you know, 343 00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:04,519 money in the company. The other is palliation, and that 344 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,559 means you find some herb or something that will work 345 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,799 well enough to keep the itching down. And you're constantly 346 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,680 putting topical things on and doing all this stuff so 347 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,440 that your dog isn't itching, and it becomes a lifelong quest, 348 00:18:16,519 --> 00:18:19,599 you know, it's an orm habitual thing every single day 349 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:22,759 to keep your dog in tow. And the other is avoidance. 350 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,799 You go around, you try to avoid everything, you read labels, 351 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,519 you try to change food, You do all of this, 352 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,119 and the amusing part is is that a lot of 353 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,400 people buy a lot of supplements, searching online, great reviews, 354 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,759 all of this. Of course, the companies are professionally doing this, 355 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,200 and then they're feeding their dog some sort of over 356 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,799 the counter thing to stop the allergies, and the dog 357 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,839 is allergic to it or becomes allergic to it because 358 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:50,160 he's getting it every day. See what? All right? Yeah, 359 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,880 So the thing is that an allergy is a is 360 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,319 a misprogrammed immune system. So how could you possibly fix it? 361 00:18:57,839 --> 00:19:01,039 You know that you don't have to do avoidance, palliation, 362 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,960 constant you know, herbs and things, or suppression, which is 363 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,720 the pharmaceutical drugs, and that is to tell the immune 364 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:10,400 system that this enemy is actually a friend. You have 365 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,359 to think about how absurd it is. Imagine five wolves 366 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,240 downing a deer and they run for three hours, and 367 00:19:17,279 --> 00:19:19,319 they catch the deer and one looks at the other 368 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,480 four and says, oh my god, I forgot I'm allergic 369 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:25,519 to venison. I've got to go. I'm gonna get a rat. 370 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:28,039 I'm gonna find a red See, guys, is this not 371 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:31,559 worth Yeah? Those cows that are, you know, grazing in 372 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:33,440 the field. And one says say, there, I can't believe 373 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:36,359 farmer Jones put us in this field. I am allergic 374 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,799 to this grass, right right, But we accept it with 375 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,319 our dogs and we run the hamster wheel, constantly trying 376 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,839 our best to do. We love them so much, we 377 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,319 build up huge veterinary bills. It's a whole thing. So 378 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,599 how do you really fix it? Well, this this lady, 379 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,920 Davey Nambouja Pot and I can't talk about her too 380 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,200 much because she's in California and her son was an attorney. 381 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,480 But her, her but she developed was so unbelievably successful 382 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,599 that big pharmat in some degree whatever went after her 383 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:10,720 the fact that it was cutting down on their profits, 384 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:13,359 and so they had to do it a very specific way. 385 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,680 And I did it in my way for dogs. I 386 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,119 wasn't going to do it her way for people. It 387 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,359 wasn't going to work. It was years later, thirty years later. 388 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,599 So I said to her son, I'm just going to 389 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:24,240 trademark it and do it this way. But she was 390 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:26,640 the one who figured it out, and it was it 391 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,519 was literally by you know, like remember what was just 392 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:33,680 literally by default. She was eating a carrot. She was 393 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,279 an acupuncturist, a natural path a homeopath. Everything. She was 394 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,359 passing out from an allergy to it. She hit some 395 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,920 acupuncture points and she woke up feeling you fork and 396 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,440 was no longer allergic. To the carrot, and it began 397 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:47,559 to do this whole thing and set up a whole process. 398 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:50,559 So let's look at what really happens because we have 399 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,599 to Really, medicine is moving into the realm of physics, 400 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,079 and so we have to think that way. So DNA 401 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,880 ninety three percent of what it does is to transmit 402 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:05,279 and receive frequencies. It's a little antenna, that's all. And 403 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:11,039 that information gives you or your pet better survival chances. 404 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,519 That's what the point is. So how does a homeopathic 405 00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:16,720 remedy work. Homeopathic remedy has an energetic resonance, and after 406 00:21:16,759 --> 00:21:20,640 the sixth dilution of six C there's no molecule of 407 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,880 the substance left in it. According to God Joe's number, 408 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,319 there's nothing left. So how does it work? How does 409 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:29,240 a baby who has one hundred and four fever who 410 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:31,799 suddenly gets the correct remedy have his fever go down 411 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:34,160 in ten minutes, becomes totally normal, runs around, it never 412 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,920 happens again. It's because that homeopathic remedy has a resonance, 413 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,359 It has a vibrational frequency, and the DNA picks it up. 414 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,759 It's sort of like you have a big problem with 415 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,519 your son, let's say, and you don't know what to do, 416 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:49,680 and you talk to twenty girlfriends. They all give you advice, 417 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,559 but the twentieth one gives you the exact correct advice, 418 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,920 and you go, oh, I'll try that. You try, and 419 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,400 the problem's over. That's correct. Homeopathic remedy does now. Ki 420 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:05,279 Ning used homeopathy mostly for allergies. I'm verse in twelve 421 00:22:05,319 --> 00:22:09,960 different modalities at least prolotherapy, Chinese or bology, you know, 422 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:13,519 on and on and on, and homeopathy worked beautifully. I 423 00:22:13,519 --> 00:22:16,440 actually lectured at my alma mata, the University of Pennsylvania, 424 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,640 on it, and it was great and I had beginner 425 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,680 poker luck when I started it. When I got out 426 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,240 of school. It's like a medical school. I didn't. I 427 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:25,799 refused because I wanted to be a vet. I waited 428 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:27,279 a year to be a vet, and I worked from 429 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:31,319 the medical and Veterinary school and I studied homeopathy, you know, 430 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,960 on certain nights a week as Philadelphia as a big 431 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,359 homeopathic town. Oh come my got out of school. I 432 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,839 knew homeopathy and I was I figured. The reason I 433 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,359 did it was I figured if I didn't get into 434 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,359 vet school and I had to be a doctor, I'd 435 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,880 be a holistic doctor, and so I was really studying 436 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,720 with the medical people. But then I began to transfer 437 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:52,319 it into the animal kingdom. And then I studied all 438 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,680 over the world homeopathy. I studied in India with doctor 439 00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:57,599 MacLeod and George Day. I studied in Brazil. I studied 440 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,039 in India all over and I became awfully good, and 441 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:05,680 so it was very easy. But as we have generations 442 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,839 and generations of suppressive therapies going on with our dogs, 443 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,079 what happens is homeopathy wasn't working so well. It was 444 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,559 sort of like a cup of bleach into a dirty pond. 445 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:17,480 It looked nice and clean there, and he said ooh ooh, 446 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,680 and then it just came back. The dirt came back 447 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,039 where before you poured that same cup of bleation. The 448 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:26,359 whole pond cleared out. I learned this something called an 449 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,039 at which was phenomenal. And what happened was I began 450 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,200 using it and it was an absolute miracle. You basically 451 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,599 take the allergic person or the allergic pet, and you 452 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,480 turn them into the not allergic pet. You're just not 453 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,400 allergic to it. It's amazing. But what you're doing is 454 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,519 you're working on energetic frequencies. You're the DNA, which is 455 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:49,599 really the computer system. It's really what runs the whole thing. 456 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:51,240 And think of it as an antenna. Think of it 457 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,279 as you know, followers, and you're correcting the whole program. 458 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:58,400 And it's so beautiful and it's so easy. You know. 459 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,119 I have someone yesterday who called me her year and 460 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,720 a half old dog was she was from Florida, was 461 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:08,039 you know, had rashes and itching, and she wanted to 462 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:11,079 do the allergy elimination for pets. But she had contacted 463 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,880 me before that in two thousand and eighteen or seventeen 464 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,839 for her other dog who had allergies. She contacted me 465 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,640 when that dog was about three. It contacted me almost 466 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,960 a decade before that for a dog who no longer 467 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,240 was with us, who had terrible allergies, and she had 468 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,640 spent years going to the vet, trying everything, putting them 469 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,839 on everything. Do I mean the whole history, These histories 470 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,079 are so sad. People care so much. Yeah, you know, 471 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,279 I treated the dog, and the dog everything cleared up 472 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:46,440 on the dog and it lived to a ripe old 473 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,039 life without ripe old age, without any allergies. So the 474 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,000 second dog, she came when he was three because he 475 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:55,759 was like two, and the first dog and the third dog, 476 00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:59,119 it was like, we're going there. It is just the 477 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,759 place to to go to because it is so it 478 00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:05,920 works so well. Yeah, you know, allergies basically, when you 479 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,759 look at the common denominator or a misbehaving immune system, 480 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,799 everything in the work in your body is run by 481 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:15,519 your DNA. And the new ways of healing in medicine 482 00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:20,720 are now becoming working with light voltage, lots of different 483 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,240 things that we never thought would be so so healing, 484 00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,920 and the advances in these fields are beyond belief. 485 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,279 Speaker 3: That's so exciting. Well, just on a more practical level, 486 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,640 I hear you saying that we should be rotating the 487 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,799 proteins that were giving the animals, not giving them the 488 00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,680 same protein every day. Is that correct? Is that one 489 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,240 of the better that's a better way to do it. Yeah, yeah, okay, great. 490 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,799 And as what are some of the other suggestions that 491 00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:48,960 people can do. I know you do consultations, people can 492 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,160 get in touch with you, but what can they do 493 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,079 right now? What are some of the things that they 494 00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:56,200 should stop doing or they can begin doing if they're 495 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,480 dealing with some of these issues. 496 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: Well, allergies when you see a case for allergies. The 497 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,200 dog could have malasesia, which is a smelly yeast. It 498 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,279 causes a dark substance in the ear and people think 499 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,200 it's dark wax and it's not. It's a yeast called malaxesia, 500 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,799 and it loves oil, it loves fat. It's not candia. 501 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,839 It doesn't love carbs. So a lot of people put 502 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:19,720 their dogs on a no carb diet because somebody cut 503 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,440 and paste some veternarian cut and pasted candida into malasesia. 504 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,920 But they're completely different yeasts. One's white, one's black. One 505 00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:31,400 likes carbs, one hates carbs, likes oil. So you make 506 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,680 sure that there's not stuff on your dogs skin that's 507 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,039 increasing the itching. A lot of times, we have these 508 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,000 very nice enzymatic shampoos that can work well to remove 509 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:43,480 yeast from your dog skin. You have to make sure 510 00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:46,680 that the ears are clear and free of infection, because 511 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,440 the dog's ear is very deep, and people think when 512 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,799 it comes up the drain and comes so far up 513 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,039 that your flash like can see that stuff in the drain, 514 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960 that's when they have the ear infection. It's actually down 515 00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,599 by the eew of the drain, and so they look 516 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:02,039 that he gives them some ointment, squirched it in the 517 00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,400 ear for two weeks. You look in the ear and 518 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,079 you go, wow, that ear is pink and healthy and nice. 519 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,599 But the fact is you're only the dog's ear. It 520 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,000 looks like this. This is where you can see down 521 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:14,160 to your thumb of your the base of your thumbnail. 522 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,599 That's where you can see zero goes all the way 523 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,440 down here and all the way across there. And so 524 00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:21,559 you think it's good and you're happy, and two months 525 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,559 later you're back at the vet saying the ear infection 526 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,279 came back. It actually didn't come back. It never went away. 527 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,000 It was down there in the bottom of the drain, 528 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,880 and it took some time for it to just grow 529 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,079 back up. You just got the top of it. So 530 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,119 you really have to handle things completely. Now you can 531 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,480 put your animal on a novel protein. But I have 532 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:42,880 found that most dogs and cats are not allergic to 533 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,319 one thing. They're not could just be for just chicken. 534 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:51,480 Their allergies have expanded and developed over time. So you know, 535 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,880 they could be allergic to B vitamins, which are in 536 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,279 everything because there's Brewer regised in those, you know, in 537 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:01,279 the vaccines, and they can be allergic to you know, 538 00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,279 fish if they're getting fish oil all the time. They 539 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,559 can be allergic to the supplements that they're giving on 540 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,640 the counter to fix the allergies. So the basic thing 541 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,319 is to keep the diet as simple as possible and 542 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,559 keep them on a novel protein. Now there's a company 543 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:20,000 called rain Nutrition are a Y n E nutrition and 544 00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,559 you need a script to get these foods. But they'll 545 00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:26,519 have rabbit, and they'll have crocodile. I don't know how 546 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:28,519 I could buy that, and they'll have kangaroo. I don't 547 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:30,200 know how I could buy that. But the thing is 548 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,319 they have. Those are novel proteins for dogs that are 549 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,000 having problems. There are many different tests online that people 550 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:44,119 can take, and the vast majority except for one which 551 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,839 only tests for food food sensitivities and intolerance and does 552 00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:51,000 not test for food allergies. And that's a veterinarian who 553 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:54,759 does that test, but she's testing IgM and IgA. But 554 00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:57,440 they're they're completely inadequate. So thinking that you can take 555 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880 one of these tests and change the foods actually so bogus. 556 00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:04,279 People have always done them. It's very common, and they're 557 00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:06,039 so convinced now that they look at this piece of 558 00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,680 paper that their dog is reacting to these things, that 559 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,920 it's embedded in their mind. So to tell them, you 560 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,440 need to photocopy that test that you got, and then 561 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,400 you need to stand in front of the toilet with 562 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,920 the scissors, and I want you to cut it up 563 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400 into really little pieces and put it in there and 564 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,880 flush it. Doesn't convince you that nothing on the test 565 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,519 is real. I mean maybe a few things are, but 566 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:29,279 you wouldn't know which ones. Then you take the eighty 567 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,799 five dollars in singles that you paid for it. I 568 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,599 want you to get scissors and cut that up and 569 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,920 flush it. So a lot of people are getting these 570 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,279 tests and going by them as if they were serious tests, 571 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,880 and they're absolutely not. I mean, the dog is allergic 572 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,960 to trout, but it's not allergic to cod. It's allergic 573 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,240 to haddock. But you follow what I'm saying, But yes, yeah, 574 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:53,400 it's ludicrous. It's allergic to these unbelievably strang a kiwi fruit. 575 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,720 You know, like, is it follow what I'm saying? Yeah? Yeah, 576 00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:03,160 And the hamster wheel is so much more than what 577 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,200 you think about in the beginning when we talk about it. 578 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,799 It's not only all the supplements on the counter, and 579 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,359 some of them your dog is going to be having 580 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,160 reactions to. It's not only these lists of things that 581 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240 you're purchasing and avoiding. It's not only reading all the 582 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:19,200 dog food labels and then searching the web for something 583 00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:24,400 that has great reviews. It's actually you know, so if 584 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,559 you have wool in your house, it wll's a big 585 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:30,200 allergen for dogs. Well, well's a big allergen. That's a 586 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,160 good tip. It's really big. If you have wool and 587 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,599 you have a dog that's itching a lot, itching, itching, itching, 588 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,359 and it causes a terrible reaction. Their whole body looks terrible. 589 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,240 It's the wool. I have people that call me from Norway. 590 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,440 They have sheepspins all over New Zealand. They have sheeps 591 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,240 all over you know, these different places, and the dogs 592 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:53,319 really loves sleeping on those sheepskins. Scratch and wolves a 593 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:56,079 big allergen. So they're never just allergic to one food 594 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,680 and they're just allergic to one environmental substance. You have 595 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:04,039 to think of it like like an iceberg in the 596 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,599 in the ocean. This iceberg is in the ocean and 597 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,720 it's gonna it's under the surface. So you can't see, 598 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,119 you know, but on the bottom of it are all 599 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,880 the foods the dog or cat is reactive to, and 600 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,720 on the top are all the environmental things the dog 601 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,640 active to. And so when they pile up enough and 602 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,920 you get to that straw that broke the camel's back 603 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,880 it through the surface of the ocean, that's when the 604 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,359 scratching starts, and that's when everything kicks in. Yeah, log 605 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,000 is never just allergic to a flea, okay, a whole 606 00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,160 bunch of things underneath, and it's and it's when you 607 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:39,000 there are people who say, I know, my dog only 608 00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,200 has environmental allergies because the only itches in the spring 609 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,039 and fall. And the fact is that it's only because 610 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,279 the spring and the fall pollens and molds or whatever 611 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,519 push that above the threshold, right right, that's when the 612 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,079 itching starts. But it's a low level allergy going on, 613 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,319 and that causes a chronic inflammation in the body. And 614 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,759 actually balance is the entire immune system. 615 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: Right. 616 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: Well, this has been an absolutely fascinating conversation. We're going 617 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:06,960 to have to have you on again because I know 618 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,640 we're just scratching the surface here. To use a terrible pun, 619 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,119 but doctor David Calsa, author of The Natural Dog and 620 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,519 several other books. How can people find you if they'd 621 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:16,000 want to get. 622 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: In touch, Well, my side is doctor Dava dot com, 623 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,720 d oc t r d e va dot com. That's 624 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:27,039 number one, number two. I have all kinds of free videos, 625 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,680 all kinds of articles, and all kinds of information. I'm 626 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:33,200 making a slew more of video specifically on allergies because 627 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,200 I really feel that it's become such a problem and 628 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,480 that people really need to learn the logistics of it 629 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,279 so they can have a break in life and have 630 00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:43,920 a healthy dog. Great. 631 00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,279 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for the great work that 632 00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:48,359 you're doing, and thank you for being a guest on 633 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,519 The Human Animal Connection. We'll be talking to you again. 634 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:54,119 Speaker 2: Very soon, my pleasure. It was wonderful being here with you. 635 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,039 Speaker 3: We'll say bye for now and we'll see you at 636 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,200 the next episode. 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