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<v Speaker 1>And it's my understanding that this mound over in this

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<v Speaker 1>direction is where a giant was found.

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<v Speaker 2>A well, it was found in a big conical mound.

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<v Speaker 2>In eighteen eighty one is when Putnam did his work,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was cut off at the knees and his

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<v Speaker 2>hands were cut off. So did he have six fingers

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<v Speaker 2>and six toes. That's just seems to be the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea when people started looking at the work that

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<v Speaker 2>was done and saying, wait a minute, there's alignments here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as far as archaeology goes, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the archaeologists look at those alignments and say it's happened

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<v Speaker 2>to things, which is sad. But then they don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>what they're trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To feed you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if they're drinking kool aid. Basically, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at they sucker, Sure looks like a monolith.

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<v Speaker 3>The meat.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>All my local guys and gas and long distance pals.

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<v Speaker 1>We are back, We're back.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you're gonna start singing again. I've learned that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've learned that, well that or that what was it

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<v Speaker 3>that you were there? She goes, we at the everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>busting up laughing again, and I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the Smashing Pumpkins.

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<v Speaker 4>M hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just kick and tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>The voice of an angel? I'll tell you falling the

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<v Speaker 5>following age. Yeah, man, well man, we had an adventure.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the conference itself was an adventure, was but

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<v Speaker 5>we had a pre adventure adventure.

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<v Speaker 3>A prehistoric adventure. How about that. Let's keep going with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Priez fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Truly, just piles and piles of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, man, we got to you know, you you

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<v Speaker 3>approached me about that a little ahead of time, said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, let's go go. We're going to Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>There's mounds all over the place, you know, the Serpent

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<v Speaker 3>mounds there, and you had a couple of these things,

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<v Speaker 3>and you said, you know, let's figure out how we

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<v Speaker 3>want to do this, and uh, and let's let's go

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<v Speaker 3>a little early to the conference and stop by, hit

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of mounds, get some footage, let's look at

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<v Speaker 3>some things kind of you know, see for ourselves what

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about. Because we've heard about the mound builders

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. We've talked about them before. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a fascinating subject.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, seen lots of documentaries and film, but it never

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<v Speaker 4>been myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I'll be honest, after watching Justin film, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think any of those documentaries did it justice. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying I'm patting you on the back there

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<v Speaker 3>because it was. It was pretty awesome. It's pretty amazing

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<v Speaker 3>to be there. That drone footage Justin got was unreal.

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<v Speaker 3>Just some of the stuff that we put together, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just awesome. But first we left a little

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<v Speaker 3>early to go to the conference. We got up into

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<v Speaker 3>that area in Ohio like middle of the night on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like midnight, yeah, somewhere around there, slept a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, then got up and ran to Miamisburg, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And that mound was pretty spectacular. I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It huge, had a big stone staircase going up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the middle of just an industrial park. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a golf course over on one side, and there's just

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<v Speaker 3>this gigantic mound to dirt, you know, and you sit

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<v Speaker 3>there and think about it. If you don't know anything

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<v Speaker 3>about this, you would just think, oh, somebody dug out

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<v Speaker 3>a pond and left it there or something. It just

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<v Speaker 3>you you wouldn't even think twice about it. You'd walk

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<v Speaker 3>right by it. But when you know what those were,

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<v Speaker 3>how long ago that was probably you know, constructed, and

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<v Speaker 3>the significance of it that changes the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like you had said, it was just.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I'd done the research for this too, I

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<v Speaker 4>had Fritz Zimerman's book, The Traveler's Guide, which I was

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<v Speaker 4>lucky I had Fritz on the show, and I reached

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<v Speaker 4>out to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Hey, I want to get.

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<v Speaker 4>All your books. Can I just get them from you,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you sign them for me. So I

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<v Speaker 4>got all three of his books on the giants and

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<v Speaker 4>the mounds, and he had signed them for me. And

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<v Speaker 4>I had had that idea. I'm like, man, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be in Ohio. There's tons and tons of mounds there.

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<v Speaker 4>I got, you know, this new camera and gimble and drones.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to check this stuff out and record. And

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<v Speaker 4>I had heard about mounds. I had seen some documentaries

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<v Speaker 4>from La Marzouli and Fritz, but never been to one

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<v Speaker 4>myself for actually like dug into them, you know. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I started going through that field guide, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of these just look like little heels or little bumps

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that we see in East Tennessee every day, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, dude, when I when I hear mound, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking of like a you know, great pyramid of dirt.

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<v Speaker 4>But most of them are not like that. But this

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<v Speaker 4>one was. This one was huge and the two that

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<v Speaker 4>we actually seen, and it was awesome the way it

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<v Speaker 4>worked out, because if we only had time to see too,

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<v Speaker 4>these would be the two that we wanted to see

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<v Speaker 4>because they were the two largest mounds in Ohio and

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<v Speaker 4>both of them were within half an hour of the conference.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was amazing how that worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect reason. We look into these almost more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>The Giants who ruled America.

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<v Speaker 1>You pull it back a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, Sorry, the ancient giants who ruled America, it says.

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<v Speaker 3>The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian cover Up by

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<v Speaker 3>Richard Dewhurst. This book is a phenomenal book, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go through a little bit of this here.

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<v Speaker 3>In a little bit. I have just some snippets, and

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<v Speaker 3>they have a lot of old news clippings and things

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<v Speaker 3>from starting in the eighteen hundreds and coming through into

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteen hundreds of different minds that were dug up

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<v Speaker 3>and what they found.

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<v Speaker 1>Which the first thing I guess is impressions.

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<v Speaker 4>You know we talked about when we pulled up on

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<v Speaker 4>the Miamisburg Mound, it was just like, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this huge thing that's like the size of the freaking

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<v Speaker 4>Pyramids of Giza in the middle of an industrial park.

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<v Speaker 4>It sticks out like a sore thumb. But thenan mound

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<v Speaker 4>is only thirty four miles away from the Miamisburg Mound.

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<v Speaker 4>It's right there in Vicinity, and it's very similar in size.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the second largest canonical mound in Ohio, second

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<v Speaker 4>to only the Miamisburg one, So when you pull up

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<v Speaker 4>on this one, it's very similar in size. But the

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<v Speaker 4>number one thing that stuck out to me was is

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<v Speaker 4>you have this basically this suburb or this subdivision, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's houses all around this thing. This thing is like

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<v Speaker 4>the centerpiece on your grandma's kitchen table. And you have

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<v Speaker 4>this roundabout that drives completely around this mound, and they

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<v Speaker 4>got it fenced off. Of course, it's not like a

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<v Speaker 4>prison fence. It's the old school post with the two

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<v Speaker 4>pieces of log like old school looking just to deter

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<v Speaker 4>people from getting on it. But you could easily jump

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<v Speaker 4>the thing if you wanted to, but that just stood

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<v Speaker 4>out to me. I was like, this is kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the same time, it's kind of creepy too,

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<v Speaker 4>because this is a burial mound, So you're sitting on

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<v Speaker 4>your front porch, you know, smoking a cigar, sipping on

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<v Speaker 4>some brandy, staring at potentially a pile of potential giant corpses.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, it just it sparks such a curiosity. But

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<v Speaker 3>you brought this up when we were there, we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking to a gentleman on top of the Miami's Burg Mound.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think you brought it up when we

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<v Speaker 3>were just talking or recording too as well. But that

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<v Speaker 3>when Lincoln was at Niagara Falls, and I actually took

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<v Speaker 3>a clip of that speech and I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 3>read that real quick. Eve's all right with you. But

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<v Speaker 3>it says, and this is so President Lincoln eighteen forty

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<v Speaker 3>eight campaigning for president, and on the way home to Illinois,

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<v Speaker 3>he visited Niagara Falls and found the site so impressive

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<v Speaker 3>that he started writing about it. And this is what

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<v Speaker 3>it says. It calls up the infinite past, when Columbus

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<v Speaker 3>first sought this continent, when Christ suffered on the cross,

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<v Speaker 3>when Moses led Israel through the Red Sea. Nay, even

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<v Speaker 3>when Adam first came to the land of his maker. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as then as now, Niagara was roaring here. The eyes

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<v Speaker 3>of that species of extinct giants whose bones fill the

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<v Speaker 3>mounds of America have gazed on Niagara, as ours do now,

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<v Speaker 3>contemporary with the whole race of men, and older than

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<v Speaker 3>the first man. Niagara is strong and fresh today as

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<v Speaker 3>ten thousand years ago. The mammoth and mastodon, now so

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<v Speaker 3>long dead that fragments of their monstrous bones alone testify

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<v Speaker 3>that they ever lived, have gazed on Niagara. But that

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<v Speaker 3>part where it says the eyes of that species of

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<v Speaker 3>extinct giants whose bones fill the mounds of America, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of speculation when we talk about mounds

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<v Speaker 3>and how many there were. There's reports that there was

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<v Speaker 3>at least a million million mounds in America back in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighteen hundreds, but a lot of people say there's

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<v Speaker 3>probably closer to one hundred thousand now in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>But you got to remember, and we talked a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit about this before, that some of those mounds literally

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<v Speaker 3>might be six feet tall and they're just a bump,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're people wouldn't even think the fact that somebody

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<v Speaker 3>built that three thousand years ago or something of that nature.

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<v Speaker 3>People would even think that it's just a bump. So

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these probably get overlooked. You're good.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just going to say that they got these

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<v Speaker 4>names because that's the land that they were found on.

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<v Speaker 4>These were farmers and that was their last names, so

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<v Speaker 4>they named them, you know, after the farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Captain mc Hopewell of Ross County had more than thirty

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<v Speaker 3>mounds within one hundred and ten acre enclosure on his property,

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<v Speaker 3>hence the hope Well and the Adena name came from

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<v Speaker 3>the estate of Thomas Worthington, who was the governor of

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<v Speaker 3>Ile from eighteen fourteen to eighteen eighteen. His estate name

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<v Speaker 3>was Adina, and that's where these names for these these

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<v Speaker 3>peoples come from. So we don't even have the true

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what they would even have called themselves. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that that trickle down effect. But pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 3>cool to see that, you know, there's there's some ancient

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<v Speaker 3>history there. Now I'm gonna take us to there's there

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<v Speaker 3>was a thing in Iowa that was found back in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighteen hundreds called the Davenport stella. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 3>of this? The Davenport Stella was really really cool for

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<v Speaker 3>one well, for multiple reasons. But first of all, there

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't supposed to be written language at that time.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's the one in that ancient the ones that

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<v Speaker 4>the giants who ruled ancient America.

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<v Speaker 3>It may have been I'm trying to remember which book

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<v Speaker 3>that was in. I have all this and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find the exact phrasing from what it had they.

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<v Speaker 4>Read that book. I got it my collection. That sounds

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<v Speaker 4>for me here, I just can't place it.

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<v Speaker 3>It might have been there, but I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>in multiple books that I had, because that was a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty big one. But that has now I'm trying to, oh, here,

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<v Speaker 3>it is the Davenport They called the Davenport Calendar Stella.

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<v Speaker 3>It was found in a burial mound in Iowa in

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen seventy four, and it was written on It was

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<v Speaker 3>written three different languages, which is really interesting, Egyptian, Iberian, Punic,

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<v Speaker 3>and Libyan. So we have something that was prior to

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<v Speaker 3>when written language was supposed to be here, written in

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<v Speaker 3>multiple different languages. And then you have Egyptian on there.

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<v Speaker 3>And this isn't the only Egyptian artifact that they found here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's stock about that. In the Grand Canyon,

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<v Speaker 3>they found Egyptian artifacts. Ors talk of that. In other

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Phoenician artifact, things of this nature that we

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<v Speaker 3>see from cultures that definitely came here pre Columbus. But

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<v Speaker 3>a really interesting site.

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<v Speaker 4>Verry Fail guy you just showed his book trying to

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<v Speaker 4>think of the name of America's Stonehenge. He found a

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<v Speaker 4>stone there called the Bailstone that was written in Phoenician

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<v Speaker 4>and it said to we the Canaanotes dedicate this site

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<v Speaker 4>to Bale of the Phoenicians. And Barry Fail from Harvard

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the one that's only forty miles

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<v Speaker 3>south of Plymouth Rock, if I'm correct, that's the one

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<v Speaker 3>that they found literally like they almost landed exactly where

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<v Speaker 3>the Pilgrims did, way before the Pilgrims, which is just

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<v Speaker 3>another thing that you know, and all these things get

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<v Speaker 3>passed off as a hoax. One other interesting thing that

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<v Speaker 3>fact that some of these people were here before. But

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<v Speaker 3>Barry Fell says that the micmac and Algonquin tribes. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we have the mcmac and Algonquin. They're more northern into Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>northern you know, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota into Canada like through

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<v Speaker 1>To New York.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a limited but recognizable Egyptian vocabulary, it says,

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<v Speaker 3>which was not part of their native Algonquin language, but

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<v Speaker 3>shows that they had contact with the Egyptian people.

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<v Speaker 4>Their online source said two thousand, one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 4>three truckloads of dirt in the Anon Man and that

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<v Speaker 4>comes out to the equivalent if someone on average could

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<v Speaker 4>carry forty pounds of soil at a time on that average,

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<v Speaker 4>this would be over one million human trips. And so,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just wrap your head around that. But these

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ancient people who were you know, no modern technology.

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<v Speaker 4>They were chipping away with deer antlers, digging up soil

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<v Speaker 4>and using deer skin or whatever to wrap this, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>soil up with and carry and stack and pack in

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<v Speaker 4>with their feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Over one million.

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<v Speaker 4>Trips to build then mound. And to me that was

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<v Speaker 4>just baffling to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Five hundred and seventy four feet in circumference with a

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<v Speaker 4>height of forty five to fifty feet is what that

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<v Speaker 4>source said. But the first recorded digging of the site,

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<v Speaker 4>there was this quote in the book that says, we

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<v Speaker 4>found top soil all the way for thirty feet when

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<v Speaker 4>we came to a cave of curious construction.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Shape of a bake oven, high enough from a man

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<v Speaker 4>to stand upright in the center, and it tapered down

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<v Speaker 4>on all sides. On one side was a door that

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<v Speaker 4>at one time was the entrance from the ground level

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<v Speaker 4>into the cave. In the center was a pile of

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<v Speaker 4>dirt and a large stone resembling an altar, and on

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<v Speaker 4>it were bones.

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<v Speaker 1>That said that.

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<v Speaker 4>The bones were so riddled that they wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 4>to stand moving them, so that the men carved their

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<v Speaker 4>names and the date in the stone and then reburied

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<v Speaker 4>the cave. And this was dated from eighteen seventy to

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen eighty in Beer's History of Clark County. And then

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<v Speaker 4>it says the nineteen hundreds of the mound was the

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<v Speaker 4>center of a large dirt horse racing track, and that

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<v Speaker 4>this was an eighty four acre farm and it was

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<v Speaker 4>bought in nineteen fifty two and developed into Indian Mound

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<v Speaker 4>estates and that the man was preserved and given to

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<v Speaker 4>the village of Nan.

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<v Speaker 3>That Davenport Stella right, that had that information on it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what that was actually transcribed or translated? The information

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<v Speaker 3>indicates that a ray of light falls on a specific

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<v Speaker 3>tone or a specific stone on the spring equinox. And

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<v Speaker 3>what was that stone called the Watcher? I thought that

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty interesting. Are we focusing back on who we're worshiping?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we focusing back on a pre flood event like

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<v Speaker 3>you were just talking about? And I think that that

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<v Speaker 3>is an interesting an interesting correlation just and it could

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<v Speaker 3>be a straight coincidence. But the fact that we hear

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<v Speaker 3>the Watcher and we're talking about Semitic writings being found

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<v Speaker 3>on here that someone who was Semitic could have read that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a precursor? Is this or not a precursor?

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<v Speaker 3>But is this something you know a pre even book

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<v Speaker 3>of Enoch where they were told through the oral traditions

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<v Speaker 3>about the watchers? Were they venerating the watchers?

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<v Speaker 1>New Ark? That?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>That that circle and square mound? Uh? What do they

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<v Speaker 1>call that?

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<v Speaker 3>I was I read all on that today, but the

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, Fritz just recently discovered that the open gate

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<v Speaker 4>that goes into that lines up perfect with the sunrise

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<v Speaker 4>on uh shoot was the name of that festival, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>on bell Tine, Mm hmm, this is you know, there

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<v Speaker 4>were sun worshipers and on bell Taine, which was a

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<v Speaker 4>Phoenician holiday worshiping their Phoenician god Bail, who they find

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<v Speaker 4>the Baill stone in America Stone Hinge lines up perfectly

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<v Speaker 4>on bell Tane.

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<v Speaker 1>So that shows you that.

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<v Speaker 4>In the very least had a very heavy Phoenician background

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<v Speaker 4>or influence. Whoever built that mound.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's may first I think, is that right Bell Taine?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure. Now, piggybacking off what you just said,

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<v Speaker 3>one more little rabbit trail. More cool little thing is

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<v Speaker 3>Frank Joseph was an utter chief of that same ancient

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<v Speaker 3>American magazine from nineteen eighty three to two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Kahokia Monks Mound, Right, Monks Mound, per this per Frank

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<v Speaker 3>Joseph had the same base as the Great Pyramid, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was aligned to the same cardinal points. The that's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to if you, I mean, you may not. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's hard to say you didn't have influence with

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<v Speaker 3>the Egyptians. It's hard to say you didn't have at

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<v Speaker 3>least a connection with whoever showed the Egyptians these things,

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<v Speaker 3>the same cosmology, the same knowledge, for lack of a

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<v Speaker 3>better word, maybe some forbidden knowledge from you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Star people as they call them.

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<v Speaker 3>The Star people as they call it, or as this

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<v Speaker 3>stone was called, the Watcher. Just an interesting connection that

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<v Speaker 3>I think we make. And we can see that correlation

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<v Speaker 3>between the biblical and even the non canonical when we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about eno can bring that stuff in that you

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<v Speaker 3>can see that the answers are there. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>think that that's a very interesting thing that I had

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<v Speaker 3>never seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even that the goods, I mean, why else do

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<v Speaker 4>you find corn in Egypt? Why do you find cocaine

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<v Speaker 4>in Pharaoh's burial teams? These are things found in South

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<v Speaker 4>America originally that migrated north into North America. Why else

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<v Speaker 4>will we finding, you know, ninety eight point five percent

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<v Speaker 4>pure copper that is only found in Michigan, in Europe,

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<v Speaker 4>in the Levant, in the Middle East. Because all these

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<v Speaker 4>things were going back and forth in the ancient world.

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<v Speaker 4>And I even heard an author speak one time connecting

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<v Speaker 4>with the Bible is Solomon during the feast of Tabernacle,

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<v Speaker 4>he would accept tribute from all the different countries of

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<v Speaker 4>the world. And it talks about this far off land

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<v Speaker 4>of four or o far and I've heard this author

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember who it was now, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>people talk about it and stuff on YouTube, and they

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<v Speaker 4>theorize that that could have very well been North America.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh far.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the connections are there, and we obviously know that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the hard part, and that's why they try

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<v Speaker 3>to stick to that pre Columbian narrative saying that there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing there, because they say that no one could have

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<v Speaker 3>had there was no ships prior to that, there was

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<v Speaker 3>no boats prior to that, which they've found, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Egyptian they found these some Egyptian ships. They found some

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<v Speaker 3>things like this that were obviously prior to prior to Columbus.

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<v Speaker 4>But hey, guys, you found yourself at the end of

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