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Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hey, Vick, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Well, it's great avenue. Thanks for your time. Sammy, Please
give us a brief bio in yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm an all at doorsman. I love the hunt,
I love the fish camp. I work a lot, and
family means everything to me. Also, it's about That's what
it is for me, is family.
Speaker 1: Good man. That's how it should be. If you're an
out doorsman. What's been the most frightening thing that's ever
happened to you in the woods that wasn't dog Man related?
Speaker 2: That is well, about four years ago, I was coming
up a long a ridge. I was coon hunting. The
most frightening thing I've ever seen or heard besides dog
Man is I've seen some spirits or mace. That's what
I thought. Think it probably was because when you're I
was let me even phrase this, I was all the
way back in the mountains, like three or four miles
away from any town or anything like that, and I
was coon hunting. It was twelve to midnight, and I
stumbled upon this graveyard and I didn't pay no attention
about it. But then after a while I started hearing
people talking and walking, so I ad met this. That
was the scary part was when it was at midnight
like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I bet that was scary. I bet you're starting
to wonder if ill Lucius Clay was going to pay
you a visit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's hard to talor's out here these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that's definitely the case. You had your dog,
mean an encounter close to a town called Jackson Mills
in West Virginia. What can you tell us about the
town and that around it.
Speaker 2: Well, Jackson Mills is in Lewis County, West Virginia, West well,
it's west and West Virginia, but in Lewis County, the
county is Lewis County. The town's western. Then Jackson Mills
is about i'd like to say, four miles four or
five miles from the town of Weston. And they do
a lot of like phield Day stuff, and they got
some old houses there, like during the Civil War and
everything else like that. But it's an okay little town.
I'mit that, but it could be. It was okay until
I seen that dog win.
Speaker 1: Well that's how normally is. Most things are okay until
you see a dog. Men, get it. Not to put
words into your mouth. It sounds like you're seeing that
town was around back when the Civil War was going on.
Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm not mistaken at least that's what they
told me when I lived there at one place, even
as a cannon.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty old town. Then are there many caves
or mines around that area?
Speaker 2: Well, it was since the pipeline come through there and
start working, they've opened up caves, just whole big old holes.
There is some caves and mines for we there. Up there,
there's a lot of woods and rivers and plenty of wildlife,
so it's a perfect place for a predator.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like it all this place has died. Comparing
the spiritual experience you had up by that graveyard that
night in the middle of nowhere in your dog meaning encounter,
which experience was more frightening to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they both was about the same. Because
I'll be honest with you, I don't know which one
I'd prefer to been here in that night, dog Man
or big Foot the spirits. I don't know which one
I'd prefer to have been here.
Speaker 1: Now I get it, I do. We obviously know that
dog men are in the area. And speaking of that,
you know a guy who farms cattle pretty close to
where you had your encounter, and from what I understand,
he had something strange and unfortunate happened. Please tell us
more about that.
Speaker 2: Well, Vic, I won't say his name because off record,
you know he's had cattle for almost fifteen years now.
One evening he got home from work and he's seen
one of his cows was missing, which they tell you this.
He does have a big farm. It's about a five
hundred acre farm. So he went out in the field.
He got on his four wheel and got out in
the field and started driving around see if you could
see it. Because a lot of times the cows go
down in that bottom and get stuck or fed down
and forget to come out. So he went down there
he found his over one thousand pounds heifer toward the
shreds like you stuck it through a wood chipper. But
he also found some prince. They looked like wolf prints,
but there was only two, not like a regular dog
that would be on all four feet. There was only
two prints like steps. That's what I'm put him up saying.
But I'll be honest with you, big Hey. That night
he called me scared to death because I mean he
had his wife and kids there, and I mean I
get that, which I would be on the protective too,
because if something like that big can kill something that big,
then it must be pretty big and mean.
Speaker 1: Well, i'd say so a thousand pounds, heffer. That's not easy,
especially to do all that damage, not at all. If
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your encounter. Now give us the realist detail that comes
to mind.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, a couple of years ago. I lived
in Weston, Lewis County or I hadn't my encounter where
up there in Jackson Mills. So I was around seven six,
seven o'clock. I decided, I'm like, well, you know, oh well,
I think I'm gonna go cat fishing, which I went
by myself like I usually do. But it's like I
said before, Vic, I'm a woods man. I don't get
scared of anything that's out in the woods because it's
more likely they're gonna fail you more than you fear them.
But I got my gear and I got down there
about thark, I got set up, got everything going, and
I was just sitting there, nothing really biting. But after
a while, about probably eleven o'clock, it start getting quiet,
no crickets, nothing, And I've learned from my encounters, if
the woods goes crying, there's a big predator around and
more than likely that's stalking you. And well, the woods
went quiet, completely quiet, and then I just I kept
hearing something like like you know how you can hear
things breathe, like heavy deep breathing, but more sounds like
a dog panting sort of like at that's what it
sounded like, which I thought it was like, well, maybe
somebody's dogs over here or something like that, because people
walks it around that all the time because it's air
it's like an airfield, old airfield, and a lot of
people drive, a lot of people walks it. But I
kind of see why they don't walk in at nighttime.
Me and myself, I got everything situating, and I was
sitting there and then it just the breathing kept getting
heavier and heavier and heavier. So I decided to get
check it out. Then there's like a little a little
walk crossing bridge that goes across the top and onto
the main road. You can walk it. It's just a
little crossing bridge there and which at the bottom you
got a big old sea. He meant wall, and that's
where my dog man was standing behind with his arm
like cornered around around it, and he was just like
peeking around it. But that dog man, he was around
six and a half seven feet tall. The fur on
him was like a grayish blackish fur coller. He his
arms was probably almost three feet long. The piece, which
that's a pretty long arm vic so he put arm,
but he had it's his eyes that caught me. He
was had solid red eyes. But I'll be honest with them.
Eyes looked like almost human eyes. And that's honestly what
damn I think that's what the scariest part was. It's
because it looked like a human eye, but I know
it wasn't human. The smell it smelled like death itself.
It really did. It smell like death. But I mean,
if you have a go out and woods and he
smelled something dead or like a carcass or something, yeah,
it could probably be a carcass. But in my experience,
always keep a thought in the back of your head
there might be a predator not too far from that,
so he might be watching you. Not now, but the
full screwcription of dog man. Everybody's got their own opinion
on like their encounters, and my encounter, My encounter was
the dog man was about six six and a half
seven feet tall, long arms, big snout and now some
people describes a dog man as you could see his
fangs hanging down and like that, but this dog man wasn't.
He had his teeth like he was snoring, you could
see his teeth, but like it just was pretty much
just a regular canine, just bigger. Of course, he had
his twenty ears and his gray as blackish fur. And
like I was talked about the smell, the spell is
the most awful thing you have a smell in your life. Like,
if I got any advice for anybody that wants to
go out in the woods in the Appalachian Mountains, my
advice to everybody is just because you think it's not there,
doesn't mean it's not there. I live in the Appalachian Mountains.
There's a lot of creatures in the Applatch Mountains, and
dog Man's just one of many of the Appalachian Mountains
creatures that lives in these mountains. If you're gonna go
camping out in the Appalachian Mountains, don't take advantage of woods.
But I'm sure people's said this. You go back and
back and deep into woods the Apple Mountains. If he's
just going back there like to miss around, you might
not come out because in woods and ones can and
ones can take you because you can get lost very easily.
And one thing I really noticed about the dog man
is is the way he his legs was like he
wasn't straight like a regular canine or a human. They
was more or less slanted a little bit and he
like was leaned down a little bit like a hunchback.
That's pretty much what it was. It's had a hunchback
and his arms was just swinging. I just hope and
pray nobody gets attacked. More likely you won't get attacked.
They're just curious. They're just like a bigfoot. They get curious,
especially if they have not seen anything like that before. Well,
big I'll tell you this. I think these creatures are
coming out of the woods because where civilization is moving
into their territory, A lot of people don't realize how
many how much woods has been destroyed to build like
houses and stuff. More than there's a lot more than
people really realizes. And like how people as their encounters
like around towns and stuff. I think these creatures are
they're being pushed out of their habitat and they have
to come out in the open. I just sometimes makes
you think if would everybody really be better off if
there was more woods instead of big cities because there's
things in the woods. You build a city in the
middle of nowhere, this creature is gonna come out and
investigate why he lost his woods. But from that, you
got any questions, Rick.
Speaker 1: Did you tell everyone you could about your encounter, or
keep it to yourself.
Speaker 2: For the most part, I told a few people, but
I kept it to myself because a lot of people
like to judge or complain about something, so I kept
it myself mostly. But I'd tell anybody that would listen.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I do, and I don't
blame you. Yeah, most people wouldn't take well it hearing
something like that, so I get it. Did you experience
any lingering after effects from that experience, like nightmares or
being afraid to head back into the woods.
Speaker 2: Well, at first I did. The first couple of nights.
I did have a couple of nightmares. But for me,
I'm an outdoorsman, I always will be an outdoors man,
and I can't let some kind of creature scare me
out of my woods because if you show fear, that's
what they want. They feed off fear, and if you
show fear, they'll keep pestering you and pestering you. But
if you stand your ground and show them like, no,
I ain't gonna be scared of you, one likely they'll
leave you alone. There is like dog Man and Bigfoot.
They are territorial, so more likely you won't get attacked
by a dog man or bigfoot, unless if you're in
their territory and if you're somewhere where they don't want
you to be. I mean, like, well, let me ask
you this, big It's like people like, would you want
somebody to be in your home if you're not welcomed?
Speaker 1: Oh, of course not.
Speaker 2: And that's the same way the creatures feels. I mean,
we're literally destroying their homes, destroying the places they have
to live. I mean, it's not like they can get
a job and live in the city, to live in
a town, which I mean, I get civilization needs to
build up. But what some people don't realize is everything
costs price. They might think it's free now, but everything
is just comes down to a price. And I'm not
talking money wise, I'm talking about like loss pretty much
anything like anything you could lose, like you know what
I mean, Well I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just one of the rules of life. Is
it was peaking at you from behind that tree. You
said it showed its teeth, but could you ever see
any expression on its face.
Speaker 2: It's more like expression on my dog man counter's face
was more or less territorial. I think it was protecting
something or so well, trying to scare me off because
I think it was time to protect something, which I
get that I've got my family, I've got kids. I
feel the same way. Like if that dog man had pups,
I don't blame it for being territorial, because I mean,
when you want to protect your kids and your wife
or family and anybody that's important to you. That's where
a lot of people don't realize wick is. Yeah, dog
men are wild animals, but family means everything to them
if you actually realize it. Their pups means everything to them,
especially with their mother feels like a mama bear really
protective of their cubs and pups. They have every right
because I mean, if you think about it, they ain't
much different than humans. I mean they are, but their
mindset sometimes their mindset and thanks like, I feel like
they feel the same when it comes to family. Because
I would do anything to protect my family. Why wouldn't
the dog man be any different? Because I mean, if
they got pups, that's their family. And I'll be honest
with the VIC were the invaders on them. They was
here way long before we got here, and they'd be
here way after we leave. And I know for a fact,
which a lot of people don't see it this way,
like we're the invaders. We're invaded, we're taking their woods,
we're taking their land, and it's making them have to
be pushed out, pushing them out out of the woods.
Because let me ask this vict how would you like
somebody coming into your home and or coming up to
you and say, just start pushing you out of your hat,
like your home or habitat or any place you feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't like that at all either. Would you
describe that dog man is looking more like a mutated
wolf or more in the monstrous side, like a we're wolf?
Speaker 2: Well, which I've heard some things about wolves in West Virginia.
I think it might be mutated somehow, because if you
really think about just look how big a wolf is.
A regular wolf, they're pretty big. But I've never seen
a wolf that can get up just at least seven
feet tall. That's just a little taller than a human,
a regular size human. But it was more wolf than
it was anything. And if I know which like I do,
they must usually run in packs. That night of my encounter,
there could have been two of them there, but I
want to know it, like, you know what I mean big?
Speaker 1: Oh sure, if they didn't want you to know, Yeah,
you're right, you wouldn't have known. You saw its legs.
Did its lower legs look proportional to its thighs or
skinny in comparison?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest with you, it was more of me.
I had a little bit of fan of one, but
it was more or less skinny. Trying to think of
a comparison when I compare it too, but I don't
think I could think of anything.
Speaker 1: The reason why I asked that is some of my
witnesses report seeing them where their lower legs are thick
and really strong. They're not as thick obviously as their thighs,
but they still look to be in proportion. Other eyewitnesses
say that their lower legs from the hawks down looked
surprisingly skinny. So that's why I was wondering.
Speaker 2: About that, well what they are, because I mean, you
gotta realize, how fast do you think a dog man
can run? Like if the dog man wanted to, if
he really wanted to kick it down, he could bobby
run up to fifty miles an now at least because
something that big, because a wolf can run up to
at least thirty miles an hour. Try having that on
two legs with all that muscles. I feel like it
can run away way a lot faster than people realize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just one of the many things about them
that is so disturbing and unsettling. It really is that
dog man came to within less than ten yards from you.
With that in mind, you got a really good look
getting as good of luck as you got. Though, what
do you think dog men are?
Speaker 2: Well? In my one of my opinions, I mean, I've
got nobody's got their opinion about it, and I've got
a couple other opinions about it, but I'm trying to
think of the name of it. I think dog men
are wolves that was just like deformed at birth and
somehow they was able to because I mean, if something's
deformed at birth, you don't know how big it could get.
You don't know what it could turn into. That's just
the wildlife for you. It's a way of life. It's
really hard to tell. I mean, you could have a
regular wolf, then you could have a wolf that's six
foot tall. But let me tell you this, Vick, So
I said, I think it's been a year and a
half ago. A hunter shot a big wolf in West
Virginia and that thing measured up six foot long. And
that thing was monstrous, and it was on two feet,
it was on all four feet. If something like that
could be out there, what could that not make If
you think about it, that could just be the beginning
of what a dog man might be forming into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it boils down to it, if dog men
can be out there, then anything can be out there. Yeah,
that's not an idea that's going to give you the
warm and fuzzies at all. How far do you live
from the spot where that encounter happened.
Speaker 2: I live about forty miles from it now as I
moved back home in my hometown Baxon County, West Virginia.
Speaker 1: So you live forty miles from that place now, But
back then when it happened, how close do you live?
Speaker 2: About five hundred yards away? Wow, clothes, Yeah, it's pretty close.
Speaker 1: That's really close. Did anything ever happen around your home
after that? They gave you the impression it might have
followed you home and was hanging around.
Speaker 2: Well, at the time, I lived in a trailer corps
and I'll be honest with you. I did think something
was running around the wind at nighttime because I thought
I'd seen something in the woodline. But I only seen
it a couple of times, but then after a while
just stopped coming back. But I will tell everybody this,
the dog man, even bigfoots and spirits, if they get
a chance, they will follow you back home. Some of
them will, some of them won't. It's more fifty to fifty. One.
Thing I can tell everybody is if you go out
in the woods, be prepared for anything you could see,
like in my experience Kerrie bear spray or pepper spray.
Because my experience, you don't have to just worry about animals.
You gotta think about it. You gotta worry about people too,
because you don't know who could be out there or
what they could be wanting to do. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh, sure I do. Yeah, you're more likely to have
trouble from people than dogmen out there. What does that
say You didn't broadcast your encounter to anyone who would
listen and understand why you didn't do that, But did
you almost feel guilty in a way to a certain degree,
that is, for not letting people in your trailer court
know about your experience or were you keep with not
letting them know.
Speaker 2: I was more or less okay with not letting them know,
because they wouldn't have believe me anyway. That's just the
kind of people they are.
Speaker 1: Now I understand, and I believe you. I don't blame
you either. Like I said, did it ever make any sounds?
You said, it's stunk to high heaven. But did it
ever make any sounds?
Speaker 2: Well, it more like may. And you know how a
dog will be like panting and snarling and you can
hear them like uh something like that. That is more
or less what it was doing, like it was trying
to intimidate me, whether it's teeth.
Speaker 1: Well, they love doing things to get a rise out
of us, So that fits. And I believe it. You've
been able to head back into the woods and do
all the sorts of things you used to do before
you had that encounter. But how much trouble have you
had going along with the rest of your life, the
part of your life that doesn't involve going into the woods.
Speaker 2: Well, really not really any trouble because I got used
to the fact. But I knowed there was bigfoot out there,
and I've got the me personally, I've got to investigate bigfoot,
and I've got to be able to get so pretty
good hard evidence of bigfoot me personally. I mean, if
you think if there's a bigfoot out there, like what
else could be out there? Because you really don't know
if you got a bigfoot out there, what makes you
think you don't have a grafting monster out there, a
big foot or a wolfman or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's true, Like I said, if dog men are out there,
then anything else could be. Now it was so close
to home for you. But I'm going to ask you
this anyway, Had you been to that spot where you
had your encounter before you had that experience or was
that the first time.
Speaker 2: I actually have been to that spot, because I've walked
there and that's actually wasn't my first time fishing there either,
but I always fished on the tame time. It was
my first time coming out at nighttime.
Speaker 1: Was that your first time night fishing, period, or just
the first time you'd fish that spot at nighttime?
Speaker 2: Just that first time fishing that spot?
Speaker 1: Okay, I see, Well, if that experience doesn't put you
off night fishing, I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Will Well, still I still god cat fishing. They don't
bother me a bit.
Speaker 1: Now, I understand if I fish, I like the night fishing.
I like to fish for catfish, So I definitely get it.
Have you been back to that spot since you had
that experience or did you swear I've ever going back
to that location?
Speaker 2: Well, a couple of days after I had my encounter,
I did go back, which I had some I take
a friend with me, because I mean, two eyes is
better than I mean, four eyes is better than two
eyes if you think about it. But I have been
back there, and it really don't bother me to go
back there anymore. Their eyes they really never did. Does
that the while? You get used to it, because I mean,
if the dog man seeson you once, what makes you
think they might all, Well, I've already scared him, so
maybe I don't have to scare him anymore, because really,
you don't know what a dog man's thinking in their
head if you really think about it, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely can't think for them anymore than you
can think for a person.
Speaker 2: That's the facts.
Speaker 1: No, I do get it. There was another time when
you think you might have had a dog man around.
Please tell us about that experience.
Speaker 2: Well, the other time I thought I had a dog
man around. I've had a couple of different times I
thought I had a dog man around, and one of
them is actually down here at my house I live
at now. They early morning I heard something up on
the hill. I thought it might have been bad because
my dogs running side and hid, and they're hunting dogs.
They don't do that. So I could hear a war.
I never seen anything. I just heard that one war
and then it disappeared and I never heard it again.
What I think was a dog man. I think it
might have been a bigfoot if you want my honest
depending on it, because I've heard a bigfoot scream. But
that's I'm more. When I had do investigations, I investigating
bigfoot or really any cryptis factor encounter out there in
the woods, but mostly bigfoot, because that's why I must
usually often investigate and often get good evidence of.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I do, And I'm glad
you brought that bigfoot encounter up again. Would you be
interested in coming on my Bigfoot Sighting the My Bigfoot
Sighting podcast and sharing experience with bigfoot with my listeners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that. I could even tell
them about some evidence and if I would like to
possibly get in there and find a big foot, I
could probably help you with that. But one thing about
me when I go bigfoot hunting is you gotta be quiet,
and you gotta I'll pay attention. You gotta feel the
woods in a phrase like you know what I mean,
like fill the woods and listen to everything that's around you,
every little thing, even every little twig breaks, because I mean,
you don't know what's out there. You can go out
looking for one creature and we find another one. But
I wouldn't I wouldn't mind talking and talks about bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Oh good, that's really good news. Well if that's the case,
then yeah, I'll just put a link to that episode
of My Bigfoot Sighting where you come on and tell
us about those experiences. And the description for tonight's show
got to make it real easy for the listeners to find.
But having said that, we're about out of time before
we get out of here. Do you have any closing
comments you want to put out there for us?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you all this. If you go, don't
take advantage of gone out in the woods. Really, the
woods can be very dangerous, more than people realize as
there really is. Did you know how many people goes
missing in the woods. I won't tell you. Roughly, I'll
at least some like thousands of people a year goes
missing in mountains and woods out in middle of nowhere.
But one thing I can I'll ask of everybody is
if you're going to go camping, don't bring no beer
or nothing like that, or and just please always pick
up your garbage, leave it like you found it.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice if more people practice that. Well. Having
said that, thanks again so much for coming on to
share the details of those experiences with us. I really
appreciate it, and please remember, if I can never help
you out in the future, just let me.
Speaker 2: Know, all right, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It goes two ways. Well, thanks again so much, and
have a great nights.