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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Sammy Richardson. Sammy,

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Vick, I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's great avenue. Thanks for your time. Sammy, Please

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give us a brief bio in yourself.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm an all at doorsman. I love the hunt,

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I love the fish camp. I work a lot, and

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family means everything to me. Also, it's about That's what

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it is for me, is family.

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Speaker 1: Good man. That's how it should be. If you're an

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out doorsman. What's been the most frightening thing that's ever

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happened to you in the woods that wasn't dog Man related?

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Speaker 2: That is well, about four years ago, I was coming

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up a long a ridge. I was coon hunting. The

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most frightening thing I've ever seen or heard besides dog

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Man is I've seen some spirits or mace. That's what

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I thought. Think it probably was because when you're I

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was let me even phrase this, I was all the

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way back in the mountains, like three or four miles

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away from any town or anything like that, and I

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was coon hunting. It was twelve to midnight, and I

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stumbled upon this graveyard and I didn't pay no attention

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about it. But then after a while I started hearing

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people talking and walking, so I ad met this. That

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was the scary part was when it was at midnight

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like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I bet that was scary. I bet you're starting

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to wonder if ill Lucius Clay was going to pay

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you a visit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's hard to talor's out here these days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that's definitely the case. You had your dog,

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mean an encounter close to a town called Jackson Mills

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in West Virginia. What can you tell us about the

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town and that around it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jackson Mills is in Lewis County, West Virginia, West well,

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it's west and West Virginia, but in Lewis County, the

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county is Lewis County. The town's western. Then Jackson Mills

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is about i'd like to say, four miles four or

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five miles from the town of Weston. And they do

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a lot of like phield Day stuff, and they got

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some old houses there, like during the Civil War and

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everything else like that. But it's an okay little town.

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I'mit that, but it could be. It was okay until

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I seen that dog win.

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Speaker 1: Well that's how normally is. Most things are okay until

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you see a dog. Men, get it. Not to put

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words into your mouth. It sounds like you're seeing that

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town was around back when the Civil War was going on.

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Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm not mistaken at least that's what they

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told me when I lived there at one place, even

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as a cannon.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty old town. Then are there many caves

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or mines around that area?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was since the pipeline come through there and

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start working, they've opened up caves, just whole big old holes.

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There is some caves and mines for we there. Up there,

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there's a lot of woods and rivers and plenty of wildlife,

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so it's a perfect place for a predator.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like it all this place has died. Comparing

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the spiritual experience you had up by that graveyard that

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night in the middle of nowhere in your dog meaning encounter,

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which experience was more frightening to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they both was about the same. Because

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I'll be honest with you, I don't know which one

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I'd prefer to been here in that night, dog Man

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or big Foot the spirits. I don't know which one

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I'd prefer to have been here.

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Speaker 1: Now I get it, I do. We obviously know that

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dog men are in the area. And speaking of that,

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you know a guy who farms cattle pretty close to

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where you had your encounter, and from what I understand,

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he had something strange and unfortunate happened. Please tell us

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Speaker 2: Well, Vic, I won't say his name because off record,

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you know he's had cattle for almost fifteen years now.

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One evening he got home from work and he's seen

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one of his cows was missing, which they tell you this.

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He does have a big farm. It's about a five

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hundred acre farm. So he went out in the field.

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the field and started driving around see if you could

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see it. Because a lot of times the cows go

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down in that bottom and get stuck or fed down

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and forget to come out. So he went down there

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he found his over one thousand pounds heifer toward the

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shreds like you stuck it through a wood chipper. But

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he also found some prince. They looked like wolf prints,

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but there was only two, not like a regular dog

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that would be on all four feet. There was only

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two prints like steps. That's what I'm put him up saying.

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But I'll be honest with you, big Hey. That night

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he called me scared to death because I mean he

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had his wife and kids there, and I mean I

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get that, which I would be on the protective too,

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because if something like that big can kill something that big,

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then it must be pretty big and mean.

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Speaker 1: Well, i'd say so a thousand pounds, heffer. That's not easy,

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especially to do all that damage, not at all. If

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you've had a dog mean encounter that you need help

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dot com. All right, seem me, please tell us about

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your encounter. Now give us the realist detail that comes

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to mind.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, a couple of years ago. I lived

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in Weston, Lewis County or I hadn't my encounter where

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up there in Jackson Mills. So I was around seven six,

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seven o'clock. I decided, I'm like, well, you know, oh well,

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I think I'm gonna go cat fishing, which I went

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by myself like I usually do. But it's like I

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said before, Vic, I'm a woods man. I don't get

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scared of anything that's out in the woods because it's

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more likely they're gonna fail you more than you fear them.

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But I got my gear and I got down there

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about thark, I got set up, got everything going, and

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I was just sitting there, nothing really biting. But after

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a while, about probably eleven o'clock, it start getting quiet,

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no crickets, nothing, And I've learned from my encounters, if

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the woods goes crying, there's a big predator around and

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more than likely that's stalking you. And well, the woods

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went quiet, completely quiet, and then I just I kept

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hearing something like like you know how you can hear

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things breathe, like heavy deep breathing, but more sounds like

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a dog panting sort of like at that's what it

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sounded like, which I thought it was like, well, maybe

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somebody's dogs over here or something like that, because people

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walks it around that all the time because it's air

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it's like an airfield, old airfield, and a lot of

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people drive, a lot of people walks it. But I

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kind of see why they don't walk in at nighttime.

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Me and myself, I got everything situating, and I was

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sitting there and then it just the breathing kept getting

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heavier and heavier and heavier. So I decided to get

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check it out. Then there's like a little a little

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walk crossing bridge that goes across the top and onto

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the main road. You can walk it. It's just a

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little crossing bridge there and which at the bottom you

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got a big old sea. He meant wall, and that's

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where my dog man was standing behind with his arm

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like cornered around around it, and he was just like

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peeking around it. But that dog man, he was around

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six and a half seven feet tall. The fur on

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him was like a grayish blackish fur coller. He his

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arms was probably almost three feet long. The piece, which

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that's a pretty long arm vic so he put arm,

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but he had it's his eyes that caught me. He

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was had solid red eyes. But I'll be honest with them.

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Eyes looked like almost human eyes. And that's honestly what

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damn I think that's what the scariest part was. It's

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because it looked like a human eye, but I know

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it wasn't human. The smell it smelled like death itself.

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It really did. It smell like death. But I mean,

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if you have a go out and woods and he

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smelled something dead or like a carcass or something, yeah,

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it could probably be a carcass. But in my experience,

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always keep a thought in the back of your head

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there might be a predator not too far from that,

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so he might be watching you. Not now, but the

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full screwcription of dog man. Everybody's got their own opinion

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on like their encounters, and my encounter, My encounter was

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the dog man was about six six and a half

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seven feet tall, long arms, big snout and now some

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people describes a dog man as you could see his

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fangs hanging down and like that, but this dog man wasn't.

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He had his teeth like he was snoring, you could

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see his teeth, but like it just was pretty much

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just a regular canine, just bigger. Of course, he had

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his twenty ears and his gray as blackish fur. And

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like I was talked about the smell, the spell is

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the most awful thing you have a smell in your life. Like,

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if I got any advice for anybody that wants to

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go out in the woods in the Appalachian Mountains, my

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advice to everybody is just because you think it's not there,

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doesn't mean it's not there. I live in the Appalachian Mountains.

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There's a lot of creatures in the Applatch Mountains, and

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dog Man's just one of many of the Appalachian Mountains

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creatures that lives in these mountains. If you're gonna go

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camping out in the Appalachian Mountains, don't take advantage of woods.

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But I'm sure people's said this. You go back and

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back and deep into woods the Apple Mountains. If he's

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just going back there like to miss around, you might

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not come out because in woods and ones can and

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ones can take you because you can get lost very easily.

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And one thing I really noticed about the dog man

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is is the way he his legs was like he

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wasn't straight like a regular canine or a human. They

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was more or less slanted a little bit and he

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like was leaned down a little bit like a hunchback.

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That's pretty much what it was. It's had a hunchback

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and his arms was just swinging. I just hope and

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pray nobody gets attacked. More likely you won't get attacked.

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especially if they have not seen anything like that before. Well,

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big I'll tell you this. I think these creatures are

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coming out of the woods because where civilization is moving

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into their territory, A lot of people don't realize how

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many how much woods has been destroyed to build like

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houses and stuff. More than there's a lot more than

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people really realizes. And like how people as their encounters

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like around towns and stuff. I think these creatures are

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they're being pushed out of their habitat and they have

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to come out in the open. I just sometimes makes

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you think if would everybody really be better off if

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there was more woods instead of big cities because there's

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things in the woods. You build a city in the

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middle of nowhere, this creature is gonna come out and

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investigate why he lost his woods. But from that, you

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got any questions, Rick.

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Speaker 1: Did you tell everyone you could about your encounter, or

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keep it to yourself.

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Speaker 2: For the most part, I told a few people, but

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I kept it to myself because a lot of people

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like to judge or complain about something, so I kept

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it myself mostly. But I'd tell anybody that would listen.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I do, and I don't

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blame you. Yeah, most people wouldn't take well it hearing

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something like that, so I get it. Did you experience

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any lingering after effects from that experience, like nightmares or

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being afraid to head back into the woods.

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Speaker 2: Well, at first I did. The first couple of nights.

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I did have a couple of nightmares. But for me,

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I'm an outdoorsman, I always will be an outdoors man,

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and I can't let some kind of creature scare me

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out of my woods because if you show fear, that's

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what they want. They feed off fear, and if you

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show fear, they'll keep pestering you and pestering you. But

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if you stand your ground and show them like, no,

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I ain't gonna be scared of you, one likely they'll

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leave you alone. There is like dog Man and Bigfoot.

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They are territorial, so more likely you won't get attacked

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by a dog man or bigfoot, unless if you're in

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their territory and if you're somewhere where they don't want

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you to be. I mean, like, well, let me ask

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you this, big It's like people like, would you want

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somebody to be in your home if you're not welcomed?

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Speaker 1: Oh, of course not.

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Speaker 2: And that's the same way the creatures feels. I mean,

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we're literally destroying their homes, destroying the places they have

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to live. I mean, it's not like they can get

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a job and live in the city, to live in

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a town, which I mean, I get civilization needs to

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build up. But what some people don't realize is everything

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costs price. They might think it's free now, but everything

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is just comes down to a price. And I'm not

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talking money wise, I'm talking about like loss pretty much

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anything like anything you could lose, like you know what

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I mean, Well I do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just one of the rules of life. Is

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it was peaking at you from behind that tree. You

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said it showed its teeth, but could you ever see

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any expression on its face.

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Speaker 2: It's more like expression on my dog man counter's face

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was more or less territorial. I think it was protecting

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something or so well, trying to scare me off because

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I think it was time to protect something, which I

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get that I've got my family, I've got kids. I

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feel the same way. Like if that dog man had pups,

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I don't blame it for being territorial, because I mean,

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when you want to protect your kids and your wife

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or family and anybody that's important to you. That's where

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a lot of people don't realize wick is. Yeah, dog

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men are wild animals, but family means everything to them

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if you actually realize it. Their pups means everything to them,

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especially with their mother feels like a mama bear really

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protective of their cubs and pups. They have every right

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because I mean, if you think about it, they ain't

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much different than humans. I mean they are, but their

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mindset sometimes their mindset and thanks like, I feel like

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they feel the same when it comes to family. Because

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I would do anything to protect my family. Why wouldn't

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the dog man be any different? Because I mean, if

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they got pups, that's their family. And I'll be honest

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with the VIC were the invaders on them. They was

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here way long before we got here, and they'd be

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here way after we leave. And I know for a fact,

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which a lot of people don't see it this way,

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like we're the invaders. We're invaded, we're taking their woods,

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we're taking their land, and it's making them have to

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be pushed out, pushing them out out of the woods.

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Because let me ask this vict how would you like

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somebody coming into your home and or coming up to

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you and say, just start pushing you out of your hat,

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like your home or habitat or any place you feel comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't like that at all either. Would you

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describe that dog man is looking more like a mutated

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wolf or more in the monstrous side, like a we're wolf?

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Speaker 2: Well, which I've heard some things about wolves in West Virginia.

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I think it might be mutated somehow, because if you

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really think about just look how big a wolf is.

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A regular wolf, they're pretty big. But I've never seen

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a wolf that can get up just at least seven

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feet tall. That's just a little taller than a human,

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a regular size human. But it was more wolf than

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it was anything. And if I know which like I do,

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they must usually run in packs. That night of my encounter,

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there could have been two of them there, but I

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want to know it, like, you know what I mean big?

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, if they didn't want you to know, Yeah,

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you're right, you wouldn't have known. You saw its legs.

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Did its lower legs look proportional to its thighs or

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skinny in comparison?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest with you, it was more of me.

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I had a little bit of fan of one, but

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it was more or less skinny. Trying to think of

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a comparison when I compare it too, but I don't

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think I could think of anything.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I asked that is some of my

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witnesses report seeing them where their lower legs are thick

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and really strong. They're not as thick obviously as their thighs,

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but they still look to be in proportion. Other eyewitnesses

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say that their lower legs from the hawks down looked

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surprisingly skinny. So that's why I was wondering.

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Speaker 2: About that, well what they are, because I mean, you

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gotta realize, how fast do you think a dog man

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can run? Like if the dog man wanted to, if

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he really wanted to kick it down, he could bobby

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run up to fifty miles an now at least because

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something that big, because a wolf can run up to

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at least thirty miles an hour. Try having that on

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two legs with all that muscles. I feel like it

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can run away way a lot faster than people realize.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just one of the many things about them

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that is so disturbing and unsettling. It really is that

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dog man came to within less than ten yards from you.

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With that in mind, you got a really good look

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getting as good of luck as you got. Though, what

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do you think dog men are?

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Speaker 2: Well? In my one of my opinions, I mean, I've

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got nobody's got their opinion about it, and I've got

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a couple other opinions about it, but I'm trying to

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think of the name of it. I think dog men

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are wolves that was just like deformed at birth and

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somehow they was able to because I mean, if something's

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deformed at birth, you don't know how big it could get.

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You don't know what it could turn into. That's just

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the wildlife for you. It's a way of life. It's

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really hard to tell. I mean, you could have a

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regular wolf, then you could have a wolf that's six

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foot tall. But let me tell you this, Vick, So

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I said, I think it's been a year and a

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half ago. A hunter shot a big wolf in West

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Virginia and that thing measured up six foot long. And

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that thing was monstrous, and it was on two feet,

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it was on all four feet. If something like that

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could be out there, what could that not make If

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you think about it, that could just be the beginning

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of what a dog man might be forming into.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when it boils down to it, if dog men

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can be out there, then anything can be out there. Yeah,

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that's not an idea that's going to give you the

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warm and fuzzies at all. How far do you live

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from the spot where that encounter happened.

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Speaker 2: I live about forty miles from it now as I

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moved back home in my hometown Baxon County, West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: So you live forty miles from that place now, But

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back then when it happened, how close do you live?

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Speaker 2: About five hundred yards away? Wow, clothes, Yeah, it's pretty close.

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Speaker 1: That's really close. Did anything ever happen around your home

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after that? They gave you the impression it might have

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followed you home and was hanging around.

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Speaker 2: Well, at the time, I lived in a trailer corps

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and I'll be honest with you. I did think something

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was running around the wind at nighttime because I thought

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I'd seen something in the woodline. But I only seen

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it a couple of times, but then after a while

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just stopped coming back. But I will tell everybody this,

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the dog man, even bigfoots and spirits, if they get

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a chance, they will follow you back home. Some of

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them will, some of them won't. It's more fifty to fifty. One.

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Thing I can tell everybody is if you go out

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in the woods, be prepared for anything you could see,

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like in my experience Kerrie bear spray or pepper spray.

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Because my experience, you don't have to just worry about animals.

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You gotta think about it. You gotta worry about people too,

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because you don't know who could be out there or

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what they could be wanting to do. You know what

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I mean?

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Speaker 1: Oh, sure I do. Yeah, you're more likely to have

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trouble from people than dogmen out there. What does that

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say You didn't broadcast your encounter to anyone who would

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listen and understand why you didn't do that, But did

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you almost feel guilty in a way to a certain degree,

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that is, for not letting people in your trailer court

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know about your experience or were you keep with not

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letting them know.

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Speaker 2: I was more or less okay with not letting them know,

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because they wouldn't have believe me anyway. That's just the

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kind of people they are.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand, and I believe you. I don't blame

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you either. Like I said, did it ever make any sounds?

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You said, it's stunk to high heaven. But did it

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ever make any sounds?

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Speaker 2: Well, it more like may. And you know how a

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dog will be like panting and snarling and you can

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hear them like uh something like that. That is more

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or less what it was doing, like it was trying

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to intimidate me, whether it's teeth.

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Speaker 1: Well, they love doing things to get a rise out

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of us, So that fits. And I believe it. You've

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been able to head back into the woods and do

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all the sorts of things you used to do before

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you had that encounter. But how much trouble have you

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had going along with the rest of your life, the

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part of your life that doesn't involve going into the woods.

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Speaker 2: Well, really not really any trouble because I got used

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to the fact. But I knowed there was bigfoot out there,

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and I've got the me personally, I've got to investigate bigfoot,

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and I've got to be able to get so pretty

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good hard evidence of bigfoot me personally. I mean, if

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you think if there's a bigfoot out there, like what

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else could be out there? Because you really don't know

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if you got a bigfoot out there, what makes you

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think you don't have a grafting monster out there, a

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big foot or a wolfman or something like that.

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Speaker 1: That's true, Like I said, if dog men are out there,

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then anything else could be. Now it was so close

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to home for you. But I'm going to ask you

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this anyway, Had you been to that spot where you

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had your encounter before you had that experience or was

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that the first time.

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Speaker 2: I actually have been to that spot, because I've walked

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there and that's actually wasn't my first time fishing there either,

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but I always fished on the tame time. It was

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my first time coming out at nighttime.

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Speaker 1: Was that your first time night fishing, period, or just

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the first time you'd fish that spot at nighttime?

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Speaker 2: Just that first time fishing that spot?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I see, Well, if that experience doesn't put you

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off night fishing, I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: Will Well, still I still god cat fishing. They don't

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bother me a bit.

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Speaker 1: Now, I understand if I fish, I like the night fishing.

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I like to fish for catfish, So I definitely get it.

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Have you been back to that spot since you had

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that experience or did you swear I've ever going back

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to that location?

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Speaker 2: Well, a couple of days after I had my encounter,

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I did go back, which I had some I take

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a friend with me, because I mean, two eyes is

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better than I mean, four eyes is better than two

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eyes if you think about it. But I have been

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back there, and it really don't bother me to go

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back there anymore. Their eyes they really never did. Does

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that the while? You get used to it, because I mean,

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if the dog man seeson you once, what makes you

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think they might all, Well, I've already scared him, so

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maybe I don't have to scare him anymore, because really,

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you don't know what a dog man's thinking in their

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head if you really think about it, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely can't think for them anymore than you

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can think for a person.

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Speaker 2: That's the facts.

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Speaker 1: No, I do get it. There was another time when

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you think you might have had a dog man around.

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Please tell us about that experience.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other time I thought I had a dog

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man around. I've had a couple of different times I

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thought I had a dog man around, and one of

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them is actually down here at my house I live

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at now. They early morning I heard something up on

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the hill. I thought it might have been bad because

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my dogs running side and hid, and they're hunting dogs.

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They don't do that. So I could hear a war.

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I never seen anything. I just heard that one war

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and then it disappeared and I never heard it again.

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What I think was a dog man. I think it

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might have been a bigfoot if you want my honest

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depending on it, because I've heard a bigfoot scream. But

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that's I'm more. When I had do investigations, I investigating

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bigfoot or really any cryptis factor encounter out there in

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the woods, but mostly bigfoot, because that's why I must

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usually often investigate and often get good evidence of.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I do, And I'm glad

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you brought that bigfoot encounter up again. Would you be

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interested in coming on my Bigfoot Sighting the My Bigfoot

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Sighting podcast and sharing experience with bigfoot with my listeners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that. I could even tell

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them about some evidence and if I would like to

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possibly get in there and find a big foot, I

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could probably help you with that. But one thing about

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me when I go bigfoot hunting is you gotta be quiet,

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and you gotta I'll pay attention. You gotta feel the

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woods in a phrase like you know what I mean,

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like fill the woods and listen to everything that's around you,

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every little thing, even every little twig breaks, because I mean,

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you don't know what's out there. You can go out

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looking for one creature and we find another one. But

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I wouldn't I wouldn't mind talking and talks about bigfoot.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, that's really good news. Well if that's the case,

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then yeah, I'll just put a link to that episode

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of My Bigfoot Sighting where you come on and tell

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us about those experiences. And the description for tonight's show

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got to make it real easy for the listeners to find.

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But having said that, we're about out of time before

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we get out of here. Do you have any closing

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comments you want to put out there for us?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you all this. If you go, don't

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take advantage of gone out in the woods. Really, the

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woods can be very dangerous, more than people realize as

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there really is. Did you know how many people goes

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missing in the woods. I won't tell you. Roughly, I'll

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at least some like thousands of people a year goes

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missing in mountains and woods out in middle of nowhere.

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But one thing I can I'll ask of everybody is

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if you're going to go camping, don't bring no beer

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or nothing like that, or and just please always pick

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up your garbage, leave it like you found it.

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Speaker 1: It'd be nice if more people practice that. Well. Having

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said that, thanks again so much for coming on to

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share the details of those experiences with us. I really

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appreciate it, and please remember, if I can never help

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you out in the future, just let me.

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Speaker 2: Know, all right, man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It goes two ways. Well, thanks again so much, and

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have a great nights.