WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:03.680 Life non stop, so don't let coals and flu stop you. 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:07.679 For over forty years, powerful uniflu has helped clear congestion, 3 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.720 runny noses, reduce aches, pains, fever, and relieve headaches and 4 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.560 cough and VITAM and C is built into boost immune systems. 5 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.440 So give cold and flu the old one two with 6 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:25.440 uniflu available from local pharmacies. Always read the leaflet. 7 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.719 Meaning the live man like this man letting butterfly flappen 8 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:28.879 in wing, dig down in o forest. Man, it gonna 9 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.760 cause a tree fall, letting five thousand miles away. 10 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:40.039 Man, nobody see nobody. You don't need no man. We 11 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:41.000 don't like you. 12 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:45.560 Story and you got like that? That's the man. 13 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.719 Don't like it. Dang on a pan on right, don't matter? 14 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.600 Man? 15 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.039 All right, tomfo, welcome to the Jay Burdon Show. How 16 00:00:59.079 --> 00:00:59.399 you doing that? 17 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.359 I'm doing great. Thank you for having me on. Man, 18 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:06.400 it's really appreciate the invite, and I'm excited for this conversation. 19 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:10.480 Yeah, dude, I am too. It's always fun, like the 20 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:13.000 Internet's a big place because every once in a while 21 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:15.519 I discover like these sort of gems where it's like 22 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:17.560 I don't know how I've never seen your stuff before. 23 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:20.640 You do a style of video. That's when I say 24 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.079 it's like they don't make them anymore. I'm not insulting you. 25 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.120 I'm saying I wish they would, but it's kind of 26 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:27.840 a lost art on YouTube. And rumble right, the videos 27 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.159 you put out, they're well done. So yeah, man, I'm 28 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.959 really excited to be recommended your stuff and then to 29 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.079 get you on the show man what. 30 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:38.640 I really appreciate that. And and yeah, I like a 31 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.640 lot of people don't really do the type of content 32 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.200 I do. It's just kind of simple and it's not 33 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:46.040 overthinking it. 34 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.519 Yeah, it's interesting. It is sort of like and I'm 35 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:54.079 a feeling we're roughly the same age and so of 36 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:57.120 proportionally to our life spend spend a lot of time 37 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.079 on YouTube, and you sort of see these different trends, 38 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:03.159 you know, and this is kind of the era of 39 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:08.400 like the three hour video, you know, the documentary on xshy. 40 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.919 Yeah exactly, And you know, I'll enjoy some of that 41 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:14.840 from time to time, but I do kind of miss 42 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.840 the era of the response video, you know, like maybe 43 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.800 it's nostalgia, but it is something you don't see much anymore. 44 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.599 Yeah, No, for sure, I can't do too many of 45 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:30.400 the video essays anymore because they're like Netflix documentaries and 46 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:34.080 it's like it's way too much. I just like the 47 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.800 the more simpler stuff. There's a few other YouTubers who 48 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.240 do this style of content, and they're actually the reason 49 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:43.039 why I do it. They inspired me. Like Jimmy Talks 50 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.599 is one of them, for sure. He just puts gameplay 51 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:46.719 in talks and that's it. 52 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.599 Well, I mean, look like the very similar reason to 53 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.479 why I have an interview show. You know, I saw 54 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:56.000 other people doing it and I was like, oh, I 55 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.080 feel like I have something to add, or like I 56 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.439 wish I could have said something, and writing out of 57 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:02.400 YouTube comment you realize really quickly it's like, oh, this 58 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:05.039 is an unfulfilling waste of time, and I guess you 59 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.599 can just do things right. As the meme goes, Yeah, dude, 60 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.280 I'm curious, and I'm not asking you to give a 61 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:14.280 super kind of detailed breakdown, but like, how do you 62 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:17.319 get an interested in politics? Because look, you know niche 63 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:20.000 writ wing politics is bigger than it's ever been, but 64 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.719 you know, it's still not something that you know, every 65 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:24.719 person you bump into is familiar with So how do 66 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:25.319 you end up here? 67 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:31.479 Uh, well, definitely just online all the time. That's that's 68 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.599 number one. But uh, I got into politics right before 69 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:39.439 I turned eighteen, So I turned eighteen the year Trump 70 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:41.879 was running, So that was the first time I got 71 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:46.319 to vote, and I got like super into the drama, 72 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.000 and I became a pretty big Trump supporter, and I 73 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.159 was just kind of energized. I feel like twenty sixteen 74 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:56.719 was a big energizing year for politics. A lot of people, 75 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.599 even people who were older, got interested in it because 76 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:02.599 it was kind of like a TV show. There's a 77 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:06.800 lot of drama between the candidates, and you had the 78 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:09.759 debates that were crazy, and then you had all the 79 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:14.840 stuff happening online. Like twenty sixteen was the first election 80 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:19.519 in my opinion, that was really kind of online. You 81 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:23.480 had all the Facebook stuff, the Instagram stuff. You had 82 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.079 stuff going on with like wiki leaks where they were 83 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:34.920 leaking emails from the government and Hillary Clinton's emails, and 84 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:39.120 then there was a big conspiracy with the Pizzagate stuff, 85 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:43.319 like all the trafficking. And so the first year I 86 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.839 kind of got into politics, I was just online all 87 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.279 the time, and I started getting into all these niche 88 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.680 stories that were going on, and so I guess that's 89 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:56.079 where it started. And then obviously you fast forward four 90 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.199 years you have Trump losing, and then you have all 91 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.000 these people saying, well, it was stolen, and then it 92 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.720 wasn't stolen, and then you have all this stuff with COVID. 93 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:11.639 So it was just kind of and I'm not alone here. 94 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.519 I've talked to a lot of guys that are around 95 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:19.079 my same age, and I feel like most young men 96 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.759 who kind of got into politics because of Trump, I 97 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.720 feel like most of them are in a similar position 98 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.399 to where I am. Because there was always some niche 99 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:32.879 story going on, whether it's Pizzagate or Jeffrey Epstein or 100 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:40.160 the election being stolen or COVID, all these different conspiracies 101 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:42.519 things going on. You were always just kind of like 102 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.399 in these niche groups talking about these things online, and 103 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.560 so it just keeps pushing you further and further. And 104 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.879 then in twenty twenty four, I voted for Trump for 105 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:56.959 the third time, and I was pretty excited. And then 106 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.399 this year, or at least last year, I kind of 107 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.439 got a little bit more radicalized because I kind of 108 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:08.759 figured the Trump admin wasn't doing what I've kind of 109 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.160 wanted them to do, and I'm not alone on that. 110 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:15.240 I feel like they kind of drop the ball. And so, 111 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.399 I mean, the only reason I'm kind of where I 112 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:21.600 am politically is just because there's been one story after another, 113 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:27.480 or there's just been one disappointment after another from the 114 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:33.800 establishment conservatives and I don't, you know, like the Democrats. 115 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:37.199 So I'm just constantly getting pushed in the other direction, 116 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.480 you know. And it's kind of as simple as that, 117 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.519 to be honest. It's just the Democrats hate white guys 118 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:47.079 and they hate young dudes, and they push all this 119 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:53.720 LGBTQ stuff on you, and then the Republicans don't really 120 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:55.879 do that much better, and so you just kind of 121 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.560 end up where I'm at. Yeah. 122 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:02.079 Man, I missed the first Trump election by just a 123 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:03.920 few months. I was too young to vote for it, 124 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.240 but really remember, yeah, yeah, just a little bit. But 125 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.720 I remember being super swept up in it. And there 126 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.560 was this other dynamic that made it really fun because 127 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.560 I was in a you know, a fairly conservative area 128 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.079 and it was a ton of fun watching like the 129 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:21.480 older people right like at my school or at you know, 130 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.680 church or whatever kind of social gathering get really upset 131 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.920 and really offended by Trump, right, and eventually, you know 132 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:29.600 a lot of these people would kind of come around 133 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:31.360 on it, but you saw that kind of like never 134 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.959 Trumper thing, and that made it even more fun, right 135 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.959 because you could both annoy you know, the most irritating 136 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:42.639 people in the world liberals and also like the president 137 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:44.519 of your school or either the principal of your school 138 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:47.519 or whatever. And so that was really fun. So like 139 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.199 I know what you mean that kind of like infectious. 140 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.600 It felt like, you know, this was like a way 141 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:57.199 to both you know, do something funny and also kind 142 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:58.920 of like throw a wrench into it, you know, throw 143 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:01.959 a wrench into this, like says them. And for me, 144 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:06.160 you know, I got super radicalized in college because like 145 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.560 I went to this like small liberal arts school for 146 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.160 a little bit. I ended up you know, dropping out 147 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:13.720 and finishing somewhere else and it was pretty close to 148 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:17.680 the you know, where the whole unite the right thing happened. 149 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.720 And so I showed up for like freshman year right 150 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:23.720 after that, and dude, it was a disaster. Like there, 151 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.040 I've said it before on my show, so I'll you know, 152 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.600 fly through the story. But like they bring us in 153 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:32.120 small school, a couple hundred kids break us into you know, 154 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:34.440 men and women, And for the men, it was like 155 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:36.720 a full on struggle session. Like there was this big, 156 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.440 you know, kind of double wide kind of woman at 157 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.279 the front and she literally said, it's a phrase like 158 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:46.960 burned into my head. You know, one in three women 159 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:49.840 on a college campus will be raped. Look to your right, 160 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:51.840 look to your left. One of those men could be 161 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:58.120 a rapist. Dude like seventeen. I guess I was eighteen barely, 162 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:02.200 but like, hey, that's that's kind of a strong start, 163 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.600 you know, to your college experience and to your point. Right, 164 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:07.399 You're like, okay, well I can't be part of that, 165 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.960 Like there's no way for me to do that without 166 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:12.639 you know, putting address on I guess, but like that's 167 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.200 not an option, and so they're like, okay, well, I guess, 168 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.799 like the Republicans are my guys, and you know, there's 169 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.320 some things that I do or don't like. And then 170 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.879 to me, like the point where it was really like okay, 171 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:27.679 like this is the two options presented are non viable 172 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:31.600 was obviously the whole twenty twenty thing, because it's basically like, oh, 173 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.159 like we're depending on your opinion. You can just turn 174 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.799 off an election, you can change the way that we 175 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.799 do things, and then you have you know, Joe Biden 176 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:44.679 and I have a very distinct memory as helping one 177 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.799 of my buddies move and you know the whatever. The 178 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:49.720 roof of his new place needed some repair. So we 179 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:51.240 were just like a shoot, like, we'll put a tarp 180 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:53.360 over it until you can, you know, get someone here 181 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:55.440 to actually fix it. So I'm sitting on the roof 182 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.039 with my best friend and it's right when you know, 183 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.080 Joe Biden was you know, pushing out this whole thing 184 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:05.519 of like, oh, if you don't have the thing, right, 185 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:07.000 I can't say it's the one thing I've gotten a 186 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.399 YouTube strike for. If you don't have the thing, you 187 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.639 can't work, you can't get a job. So still in 188 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.279 college at the time, and I was like, am I 189 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.600 just like gonna be like homeless or like part of 190 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:19.440 the underclass? You know, like some guy like begging for 191 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:21.799 money because I won't do this. And it's like, oh, 192 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.879 I guess that's how much they hate me. You know, 193 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:26.480 they're willing to do that, like you can't even contribute 194 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:30.679 to society. And I think that like a lot of guys, 195 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:32.840 and it sounds like you're in the kind of similar position. 196 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.519 You see, like Trump come around for the third time, 197 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:37.559 seems like he's gonna win, and you're like, okay, like 198 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:41.639 all right, like you maybe you learned some stuff, you 199 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:44.799 learned who you couldn't trust, couldn't trust how you have 200 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:48.399 to take on a government that hates you. And for 201 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:49.879 like the first couple of months, it's like, okay, like 202 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:51.720 I guess, you know, I was a little cynical, but 203 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.240 it seems like he's learned, you know, learned what you 204 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:57.679 need to do. And then real, real quickly, all that 205 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:00.519 goes away, and it's like, okay, so you're your one 206 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.960 priority is a certain Middle Eastern democracy. That's what it 207 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:06.600 comes down to. And so even when you know, as 208 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.879 the moniles would say, right, you do the thing, you 209 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.240 get your guy in the big you know, anti establishment guy, 210 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.759 it's like, oh, okay, so so nothing changes. So we 211 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:20.519 just have no solution within this system. And I mean, 212 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:23.759 look like obviously I've been on the internet saying radical 213 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:25.399 things well before that, but that's one of those ones. 214 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.879 We're like, okay, so that's that's the state of play. 215 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:30.679 And you know, I'm glad you brought up the you 216 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.960 know the age thing as well, because like one of 217 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.120 my least favorite I guess fa I should do kind 218 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:40.039 of like reading these is the like endless number of 219 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.639 like articles and opinion pieces about like why are young 220 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:48.360 men so radical? And the solutions are all completely insane, 221 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:52.159 like oh, we'll just find a you know, a chubby 222 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.799 Hispanic woman to go to frat parties and that'll you know, 223 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.600 win them back over for you know, the Democrats or whatever. 224 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:00.159 And I'm saying Democrat Republican. Well we all know I 225 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:02.960 mean when I say that, Yeah, but I'm curious and 226 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.559 maybe I could throw back to you, like what's your 227 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.240 answer that question, like why are young men so radical? 228 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:15.799 Hm? See, this is something i've you know, because obviously 229 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.519 I'm I mean, I'm not like a younger gen Z. 230 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.360 I'm older gen Z, but I'm still part of the 231 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:24.000 same generation and a lot of the problems the younger 232 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:27.080 guys have, I guess like you and I, we got 233 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:30.759 to experience those firsthand, you know, when they first started 234 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.360 kind of popping up. And I mean this, the answer 235 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.919 to that question isn't just one thing. It's not just political, 236 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:45.360 it's not just one simple answer. You'll hear it from Republicans, 237 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.080 for example, when they talk about it, they'll talk about 238 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:51.399 young men and they'll say, you'll see some chick go 239 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.360 on Fox News and talk about how young men just 240 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.519 want to play video games and they don't want to, 241 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:59.600 you know, interact with society. They don't want to marry 242 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.559 a single mom or you know, step up to the 243 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:06.360 plate or whatever. And then when they talk about solutions, 244 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:10.639 they always talk about like the economy, and they'll they'll 245 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:14.200 say stuff like, oh, we just need to give them 246 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.039 the ability to buy a house, if they could own 247 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:20.399 a home, or it's the job, or it's the taxes, 248 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:25.399 you know, it's it's it's money, and they focus on that. 249 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:29.879 And then for Democrats it's they say the money. But 250 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.039 then they have some weird thing where it's like they're 251 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.720 being men are brainwashed and they're just all misogynists and 252 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.159 that's why they're unhappy, and we just need to liberate 253 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.080 them from that way of thinking and then we can 254 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.440 all be equal. So they're both like getting it wrong, 255 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:47.759 because it's not just one reason why men are the 256 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:53.559 way they are. A big reason is because of you know, purpose, 257 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.159 a lot of young men in today's society, they lack 258 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.759 a purpose, and no one amount of them being able 259 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.879 to buy a home or have some corporate job that 260 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.440 really is just a bullshit job to be honest, that 261 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.440 doesn't really matter, that can get replaced with AI in 262 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:17.000 ten years, is gonna you know, fill that void. You 263 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:21.519 have a generation of men that were demonized one hundred percent. 264 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.480 You had a generation of men that were kind of 265 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:33.480 just kind of just abandoned, you know, even with today, 266 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.879 Like a problem the Republican Party has is they keep 267 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:40.000 doing things that favor the older generations, like the boomers, 268 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.600 and then they'll talk about how young men are angry 269 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:45.879 because they can't afford a home, but then they won't 270 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.840 and act policies that are gonna bring home prices down. 271 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:52.159 They'll give you a fifty year mortgage, but that's just 272 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.799 about it. And they think it's it's money. They think 273 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:58.240 it's because they can't afford things. But there's so much more. 274 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.320 There's the purpose, you know that there's the idea of 275 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:05.279 this country doesn't have a future. There's the idea that 276 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:10.519 it's wrong for young men to be masculine, and it's 277 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:14.639 wrong for young white men to be proud of being white. 278 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.519 It's wrong for you to have a sense of identity 279 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.720 and belonging, and these things give you purpose in a way. 280 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:27.639 It's not just about money or affording a home. Also 281 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:31.679 another reason is quite frankly, it is because of dating. 282 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:38.440 It's because of relationships, not just between just the dating relationships, 283 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.120 but also like friendships. I think young gen Z men. 284 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.159 There's some study I saw like a few years ago 285 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:47.080 that talked about how like fifteen percent of gen Z 286 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:53.120 men have no friends, like at all. They're chronically just 287 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:58.240 online and they have nobody to talk to. And then 288 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.519 our generation we grew up when if you want to 289 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:05.000 talk about dating, because relationships, you know that that gives 290 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:08.200 you a family, that gives you legacy, that gives you kids. 291 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:12.039 It's kind of impossible at this point, Like it's very 292 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.240 screwed up. Like ever since before I was old enough 293 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:20.879 to date, there was a dating app. You know, before Tender, 294 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.039 there was Hot or not before that, there was Facebook. 295 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:33.200 And it's feminis like feminists and the feminization of the country. 296 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.720 It's a very radical ideology that's kind of rooted at 297 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:41.000 the core of this nation. You even have Republican conservative 298 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.360 women that are basically covert feminists, and they'll talk about 299 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:47.919 all these issues with men, but they won't talk about 300 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.679 problems with women and how a lot of women these 301 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:55.679 days are kind of undateable. And it's not to say 302 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.320 that men are completely datable. There's a lot of problems 303 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.960 that go both ways. But the reason why young men 304 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:05.880 are so angry and there's so many issues is because 305 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.279 it's not just one problem. It is the economy, it 306 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:10.440 is the future. It is the fact that the leaders 307 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:16.200 have completely abandoned the future of this nation and sold 308 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:20.920 the future that's supposed to belong to the children to 309 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:25.599 Black Rock and all these different companies. It's you know, 310 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:33.359 we have a country that has no no real like morals. 311 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:37.119 There's no like real role models for young men. Either. 312 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:42.200 With black families, you have like no fathers in the families, 313 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.359 so they have no men to look up to. And 314 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.880 then with white men and white kids, they have fathers 315 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.880 that are basically just cooks, and they don't stand up 316 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.119 for anything, and they don't believe in anything, and at 317 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:57.000 the first sight of any type of conflict, they just 318 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.359 kind of like cower. And you just have a lot 319 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:05.559 of issues that have just been compounding throughout the decades. Really, 320 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:11.640 and gen Z men are kind of reaching a powder 321 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.279 keg moment where they're just angry. A lot of them 322 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.960 are just checked out. And it is because you know, 323 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.359 they can't date. It is because they have no purpose. 324 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:25.240 It is because you know a lot of them will 325 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:27.200 go to college, they'll get a degree, they won't be 326 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:31.720 able to find work. It is because they can't get home. 327 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:35.200 So it is the economy as well. But you don't 328 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:40.039 really have any leaders that are focusing on the real 329 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:44.960 issues that men have. They think it's just we can 330 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:46.960 have them buy a house or whatever, and that's going 331 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:49.359 to fix everything. And it's like, no, there's so much more, 332 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.400 but nobody wants to have that conversation. 333 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.720 Well, I mean, and look to that point, Like a 334 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.839 house is obviously there's the literal thing of owning a house, 335 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.720 owning a property, having a stake in society. That's really 336 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:05.519 important because then you own a piece of it, you're 337 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.640 tied into it. But it's sort of symbolic of a 338 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:12.079 bunch of other things, right, Like you're one hundred percent 339 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.519 correct that, like the money isn't all of it, but 340 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:17.960 the fact that like it is incredibly difficult to find 341 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.039 a decent job. You know that many people are drowning 342 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:23.400 in debt. You know, an ever greater portion of their 343 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:27.880 income is being used to you know, provide basic necessities. 344 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.680 Like I was talking to uh Proving bull right, he's 345 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.680 I think he's about our age about exactly this, and 346 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.799 he's super smart, you know right now he works as 347 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:42.640 a you know, financial analyst. So like he's you know, 348 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.359 a smart kid, right, And so I just asked him offhand. 349 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:47.000 I was like, hey man, how many jobs have you 350 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.920 applied for? And his answer was if I'm not I 351 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:51.759 don't want to misquote him here, but he's like around 352 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:52.400 six hundred. 353 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:54.039 Oh my gosh. 354 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.799 And like, look like there's a reason I'm a professional 355 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.000 internet guy. That's because I had a very similar experience. 356 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:02.880 Like and I'm not this is obviously years ago. I'm 357 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.039 not torn up about it. But like I graduated from 358 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:09.000 a you know, a competitive program in a degree that 359 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.319 people tell you to get, right, Like this is what 360 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:13.200 you get if you want a job. How was working 361 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:16.599 a clothing factory? Like that was what I did after school. 362 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:20.160 And look like the economy sucks sometimes it happens, but 363 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:22.839 that feeling of hopelessness you're talking about where it's like 364 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:25.160 what do I got to do to get ahead, like 365 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.160 it feels as if, you know, you're always behind the 366 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.519 eight ball, and you know, as regards dating, this is 367 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.480 something that's really hard to express to people who didn't 368 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:39.200 grow up in kind of the the algorithm era right 369 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.359 when it, you know, because look like you know, even 370 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:46.799 kind of like core and older millennials remember the before 371 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:51.759 social media era, is that like that radically changes the 372 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:58.400 playing field because again, one, you are basing a relationship 373 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:00.640 at least even if you get to that point off 374 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:04.799 of like fleeting momentary attraction like not how you talk, 375 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:10.200 not your social setting, whatever, just that. And also it 376 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:16.880 plays into like negative you know, negative traits in female psychology, 377 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:20.119 which is like, oh, well, I string along a bunch 378 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:22.640 of guys, you know, just get the attention from it. 379 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.000 And I think you're right to point out, like, look 380 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.519 like this, men and women both if we wouldn't even 381 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.559 just break it out of those categories, both have very 382 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.279 real problems. Like you can look at you know, the 383 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.279 female rate of mental disorders and suicide. All of these 384 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:39.240 things are getting worse. But like at a more basic level, 385 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:41.079 one of the things that I think is kind of 386 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.079 interesting about gen Z is that many of the things 387 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.920 that previous generations said they thought or said they would do. 388 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:52.400 We were actually kind of forced to do so, Like 389 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:54.720 if you look at you know, boomers, what they and 390 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:57.720 we're talking in aggregate, right, there's a huge generation. I 391 00:21:57.759 --> 00:21:59.599 know some of you were the good ones. So if 392 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:01.279 you're listen this, you are one of the good ones. 393 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.079 The point is, like you see this huge gap between 394 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:09.160 stated and revealed preference. What people will say if you 395 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:11.240 call them on the phone, like I guess that's how 396 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.559 they do polling still and say like what do you 397 00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:15.680 think about this? And how they actually live their life? 398 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:19.359 You know, the patterns of marriage and family formation similar 399 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:23.599 slightly decreased with generations after that, but for us, like 400 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:29.039 the kind of like war between the sexes was it 401 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.680