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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's dive into binary analysis. You're interested in

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<v Speaker 1>getting down to the nitty gritty of how programs work

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<v Speaker 1>at a low level. Huh, We've got some PDF excerpts

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<v Speaker 1>and code examples from practical binary analysis to guide us.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a plan. That's an excellent resource for this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of deep dive.

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<v Speaker 1>So no more comfy high level languages, right, We're going

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<v Speaker 1>straight to the bare metal machine code. The PDF mentions

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<v Speaker 1>that binary analysis is a bit of a challenge, especially

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<v Speaker 1>since we have to deal with code without type information.

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<v Speaker 1>What exactly does that mean in practice?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, think of it like this. Imagine trying to follow

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<v Speaker 2>a recipe, but instead of ingredient names, you only have

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<v Speaker 2>quantities like two of this, one of that, but no

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<v Speaker 2>clue if it's flour, sugar, or eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. So it's a bit of a guessing game exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Compilers strip away all those helpful labels the types to

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<v Speaker 2>create the most efficient machine code possible. So our job

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<v Speaker 2>is to figure out what those cryptic values represent.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a puzzle. The PDF also mentions that

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<v Speaker 1>code and data can get all mixed up in the buying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that can get pretty confusing. Compilers are all about optimization,

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<v Speaker 2>so they sometimes mix up the instructions and data to

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<v Speaker 2>make things run faster. It's not like the neat and

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<v Speaker 2>organized code we see in high level languages.

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<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, there's the issue of location dependence.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, Every single instruction and piece of data has

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<v Speaker 2>a specific address in the compiled binary, so if you

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<v Speaker 2>shift things around even a tiny bit, those addresses become invalid,

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<v Speaker 2>which can lead to all sorts of.

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<v Speaker 1>Problems, like the whole program crashing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, crashes, unexpected behavior, you name it. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>delicate Jenga tower. One wrong move and everything falls apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've got cryptic values, mix up code, and

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<v Speaker 1>a super frital structure to deal with. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to get interesting. The PDF focuses on BY

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six assembly, which it describes as complex but good practice.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes BY eighty six so tricky? Well.

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<v Speaker 2>BY eighty six has been around for ages, and its

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<v Speaker 2>instruction set has grown pretty complex over the years. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got all sorts of instructions with varying legs, and these

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<v Speaker 2>complicated ways of accessing data. Even some instructions overlap. Take RPMOVSB,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, just one instruction can move huge chunks of data,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why Malwaur authors love it so much. Makes

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<v Speaker 2>their code much harder to analyze, you.

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<v Speaker 1>See, So it's a bit of a beast to master.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that mastering by eighty six assembly is

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<v Speaker 2>like learning to play a really complex musical instrument with

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of levers and buttons to figure out. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's also incredibly rewarding once you get the

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<v Speaker 2>hang of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of complex, there's also the whole thing with different

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<v Speaker 1>assembly syntax is INTEL and AT and T. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>admit they look like secret codes.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, yeah, it can seem that way. Think of them

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<v Speaker 2>as two different dialects of the same language.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Intel syntax is definitely more common, and it's usually considered

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<v Speaker 2>more readable. That's why the PDF sticks with it. But

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry, you don't need to be fluent in assembly

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<v Speaker 2>to grasp the main concepts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a relief to hear. So the PDF walks us

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<v Speaker 1>through the compilation process using the classic Hello World example.

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<v Speaker 1>There's pre processing, compilation, assembly, and linking. It's quite a

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<v Speaker 1>journey what's going on at each stage?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Each stage refines the code, getting it closer to

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<v Speaker 2>what the computer can actually understand. It's like an assembly

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<v Speaker 2>line for code.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>So first we have preprocessing. It's like prepping all your

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<v Speaker 2>ingredients before you start cooking, you know, substituting those placehold

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<v Speaker 2>values with the real deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's about getting everything ready exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Then comes compilation. This is where the magic happens. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like translating a recipe into precise instructions for the CPU, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>sheet the oven too, three point fifty, mix in two

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<v Speaker 2>cups of flour, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the step by step guide for the computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you got it. Assembly comes next. This stage converts

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<v Speaker 2>those instructions into the actual binary language that the computer speaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it like converting a recipe from English into say, Japanese. Finally,

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<v Speaker 2>linking brings everything together, including external libraries, and creates the

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<v Speaker 2>final executable file.

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<v Speaker 1>So the execute is the finished product, all assembled and

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<v Speaker 1>ready to run. The PDF mentions symbols, comparing them to

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<v Speaker 1>a table of contents for the binary. Why are these

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<v Speaker 1>symbols so important?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, symbols are like the bridge between the human readable

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<v Speaker 2>world of programming and the machines world of memory addresses.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like little sign posts that point to specific locations

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<v Speaker 2>in the binary, helping us make sense of the disassembled code.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine trying to navigate a city with just street addresses

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<v Speaker 2>and no street names. It would be a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>So symbols help us decode what's happening in the binary exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They tell us which parts of the code correspond to

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<v Speaker 2>which variables and functions, making the whole thing much easier

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<v Speaker 2>to understand. The PDF then dives into the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>object files and executables. I think listings one to eight

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<v Speaker 2>and one ten illustrate this pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what's the difference between those two.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of object files like pieces of a puzzle. They

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<v Speaker 2>contain compiled code but can't run on their own. And executable,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, is the complete puzzle ready to

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<v Speaker 2>be loaded and run by the operating system.

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<v Speaker 1>So the executable is the final product, the one we

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<v Speaker 1>actually run on our computer. Figure one to two shows

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<v Speaker 1>how the operating system lows and executable into memory. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just a simple copy paste operation, is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, not quite. It's more like packing a suitcase. Strategically,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't just throw things in randomly, right, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure everything fits and is easy to find

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<v Speaker 2>when you need it. The operating system does something similar.

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<v Speaker 2>It arranges code and data segments in memory to make

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<v Speaker 2>everything run smoothly and efficiently.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's about organizing things in a way that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense for the computer. Now, let's talk about file formats.

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<v Speaker 1>The PDF mentions ELF and PE, which sound like they're

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<v Speaker 1>the language barriers between different operating systems.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it, ELF, which stands for Executable and Linkable Format,

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<v Speaker 2>is the standard format for Linux systems. PE, which is

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<v Speaker 2>short for Portable executable, is used by Windows. They both

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<v Speaker 2>essentially package up the code and data for execution, but

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<v Speaker 2>with the different structures and conventions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, So it's like given operating systems speak different binary languages.

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<v Speaker 1>The PDF delves into quite a bit of detail about

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<v Speaker 1>these formats, referencing listings two, two, two five, and two eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the key differences between ELF and PE? From

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<v Speaker 1>a practical.

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<v Speaker 2>Standpoint, ELF is known for its flexibility in standardized sections,

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<v Speaker 2>making it relatively easy to analyze. It's like a well

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<v Speaker 2>organized library with clear labels on all the shelves. PE,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, is more tailored for Windows features,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bit more complex, almost like a sprawling mansion

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<v Speaker 2>with hidden rooms and secret passageways.

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<v Speaker 1>So ELF is the more straightforward one.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that it's definitely friendlier for analysis. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there's this concept of lazy binding that I found pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like procrastination for programs? Hmm, not quite procrastination,

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<v Speaker 2>but more like just in time efficiency. Lazy binding means

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<v Speaker 2>a program doesn't resolve references to external libraries until it

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<v Speaker 2>actually needs them. It's like looking up a phone number

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<v Speaker 2>only when you're about to make the call, instead of

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<v Speaker 2>searching through the whole directory beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So it's out saving time and resources. The PDF

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<v Speaker 1>mentions PLT and GOOT in this context referencing listing two seven.

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<v Speaker 1>What do those acronyms stand for and what roles do

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<v Speaker 1>they play in this lazy loading scheme? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So, PLT stands for Procedure Linkage Table. It's basically a

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<v Speaker 2>table of placeholders for function calls to external libraries. Each

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<v Speaker 2>placeholder is like a note saying, hey, we'll need to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out where this function actually lives later. GOT or

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<v Speaker 2>Global offset table, is like a directory that eventually gets

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<v Speaker 2>filled with the actual addresses. Of those functions once they're needed.

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<v Speaker 1>So the PLT points to the GOT and the GOT

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<v Speaker 1>eventually points to the actual functions. Sounds a bit round about.

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<v Speaker 2>It might seem that way, but it's all about efficiency.

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<v Speaker 2>When the program first calls a function from an external library,

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<v Speaker 2>it hits the corresponding PLT placeholder. This triggers a search

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<v Speaker 2>party led by something called the dynamic linker, which finds

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<v Speaker 2>the actual address of that function and updates the GOT accordingly.

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<v Speaker 2>From that point on, any calls to that function and

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<v Speaker 2>go directly to the correct address, skipping the whole lookup process.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a one time setup for efficiency. Clever. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's shift gears and talk about the tools of the trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter five in the pdf introduces a whole toolbox of

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<v Speaker 1>essential binary analysis tools. It's time to gear up and

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<v Speaker 1>become digital.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives, definitely. Each tool gives us a different lens to

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<v Speaker 2>view the binary through, helping us extract all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we're gearing up to be code detectives with

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<v Speaker 1>all these tools at our disposal. The PDF starts with strings.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that all about?

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<v Speaker 2>Strings? That's our first line of recon imagine sifting through

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<v Speaker 2>mountains of binary data, just looking for anything, any snippet

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<v Speaker 2>that looks like readable text. That's what strings does. It

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<v Speaker 2>extracts any sequence of printable characters, giving us clues about

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<v Speaker 2>what the program might be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like searching for those needles in a haystack,

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<v Speaker 1>except the needles or words hidden within the code. Exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what about XDC What kind of insights can we get

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<v Speaker 2>Think of XD as our magnifying glass to zoom in

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<v Speaker 2>and examine the raw bytes of the program. Instead of

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<v Speaker 2>just ones and zeros, it displays the bytes and hexadecimal, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit easier to digest than just a wall

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<v Speaker 1>of ones and.

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<v Speaker 2>Zeros, much easier. Still a bit cryptic, but hey, at

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<v Speaker 2>least it's something.

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<v Speaker 1>So with xxday, we're getting a byte level view of

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<v Speaker 1>the program. What if we want to understand a program's

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<v Speaker 1>social network, so to speak, The PDF talks about weld for.

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<v Speaker 2>That right old helps us map out the program's dependencies.

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<v Speaker 2>It tells us which shared libraries the program relies on.

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<v Speaker 2>That can give us a good idea of what the

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<v Speaker 1>So like checking someone's social media to see who they

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much gives you a sense of their interests and activities.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, definitely. The PDF then introduces these tools Strace and

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<v Speaker 1>old Trace, which sound like we're getting into some serious

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<v Speaker 1>digital surveillance. What do those tools do?

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<v Speaker 2>Strays, Well, it's kind of like putting a suspect under surveillance.

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<v Speaker 2>It intercepts and logs all the system calls made by

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<v Speaker 2>the program, so we can see how the program is

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with the operator system, what files it opens, any

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<v Speaker 2>network connections, it makes all that juicy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can spy on what the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Is doing exactly. And then there's Altrace. It takes things

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<v Speaker 2>a step further. It zeros in on the program's interactions

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<v Speaker 2>with external libraries. We can see which functions the program

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it like observing someone's daily routine. You might

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<v Speaker 1>Structure, and dynamic disassembly.

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<v Speaker 1>So static is the blueprint and dynamic is the performance

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, each approach has its own strengths and weaknesses. Static

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Those are designed to throw analyst soft track right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like we're performing surgery on the code. Removing

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<v Speaker 2>Bugs exactly now. Speaking of vulnerabilities, the PDF then dives

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<v Speaker 2>Case of heap overflows that bursting can overwrite important data or,

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<v Speaker 2>check dot O. This library acts like a safety net,

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely and make sure everything stays within the bounds and

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<v Speaker 1>That's reassuring. Now. Chapter eight challenges us to roll of

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<v Speaker 1>Why would we bother building our own when there are

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<v Speaker 1>So it's about having the right tool for the job,

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, the PDF walks us through creating a simple linear

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<v Speaker 1>What exactly does linear disassembly mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Recursive dissembly YEP.

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<v Speaker 2>Recursive disassembly takes into account the program's control flow, following

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like exploring a Choose your Own Adventure book,

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. It gives us a complete map of

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool. The PDF then takes recursive disassembly to

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<v Speaker 2>Of code exactly, they can bypass security mechanisms and do

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Now. In chapter nine, things get really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>This sounds like we're not just passively observing programs anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's like we're becoming code wizards. The pdf starts

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like finding the traffic jams in a program

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<v Speaker 2>And the PIN framework gives us the tools to do

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<v Speaker 1>What other tricks can we do with the PIN framework?

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<v Speaker 1>So how does PIN help us solve these puzzles?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a way to track the flow of

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<v Speaker 2>Twist, you're on the right track. Imagine pouring dye into

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<v Speaker 2>Then we track how that tait spreads through the program

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<v Speaker 2>DTA helps us monitor how tainted data influences the program's

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a security system that can spot intruders

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<v Speaker 2>Control exactly now. Chapter eleven zooms in on using DTA

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<v Speaker 1>Those sound tricky, Why are they so dangerous?

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<v Speaker 2>Format string vulnerabilities happen when a program isn't careful about

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<v Speaker 1>So attackers can essentially change the rules of the game

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. The PDF shows how we can use

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<v Speaker 1>So LIBDFT is like a specialized security guard watching out

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<v Speaker 2>It gives us a way to keep a close eye

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<v Speaker 1>That's impressive. We've covered so much ground in this deep dive,

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite a journey, isn't it, and there's always more

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<v Speaker 1>But the journey isn't over yet, right. The PDAF hints

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<v Speaker 2>It is pretty mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter twelve lays the groundwork for symbolic execution and introduces

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<v Speaker 2>Now, in the world of symbolic execution, we represent data

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<v Speaker 2>in the program as these symbolic expressions. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like placeholders, and Z three helps us determine if certain

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<v Speaker 2>conditions can be met as the program runs.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of dealing with concrete values like one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>we're working with these symbolic representations that could be anything.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the idea, and Z three helps us reason about

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<v Speaker 1>how these symbolic values might behave as the program executes.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely. The PDF also mentions opaque predicates, which sound like

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<v Speaker 2>they're designed to make life difficult for analysts.

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<v Speaker 1>They do sound a bit intimidating. What are those all about?

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<v Speaker 2>Opaque predicates? Oh, they're basically little bits of code that

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<v Speaker 2>are deliberately accuscated to throw off static analysis. Like think

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<v Speaker 2>of them as locked doors with hitting keyholes.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're meant to keep us out, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could say that. But with symbolic execution and a powerful

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<v Speaker 2>constraint solver like Z three, we can often crack those

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<v Speaker 2>open and figure out what they're really.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to, so we can outsmart those tricky programmers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter thirteen introduces us to Triton, which is described as

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<v Speaker 1>a dynamic symbolic execution framework. So now we're not just

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<v Speaker 1>analyzing the code statically anymore. We're simulating its execution with

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<v Speaker 1>the symbolic value.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Triton lets us run the program in

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of virtual sandbox where we can watch those

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<v Speaker 2>symbolic values flow through the code as it executes, so

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<v Speaker 2>we can.

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<v Speaker 1>See how those values interact and influence the program's behavior exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really powerful way to explore all the possible

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<v Speaker 2>execution path the program could take, even those that are

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<v Speaker 2>rarely encountered in the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. The pdf gives an example of backward

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<v Speaker 1>slicing using Triton. What is backward slicing and how does

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<v Speaker 1>it help us understand a program?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, imagine you're trying to trace the origin of a rumor. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you start with the person who spread it and ask

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<v Speaker 2>where did you hear that from? Then you go to

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<v Speaker 2>that person and so on until you find the original source.

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<v Speaker 1>We're following the trail back to the beginning exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Backward slicing and treton is similar. We start with a

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<v Speaker 2>particular point of interest in the program, like a specific

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<v Speaker 2>register value, and work our way backward tracing the flow

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<v Speaker 2>of data that led to that value, so we can figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Out the chain of events that led to a certain outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the idea. The PDF also mentions that Triton can

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<v Speaker 2>help us achieve better codeverage during dynamic analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Why is that important?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, traditional dynamic analysis can only observe the code that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually executed during a specific run, right, But with symbolic execution,

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<v Speaker 2>we can explore all those possible paths, even the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that are rarely taken. It's like having a map that

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<v Speaker 2>shows you all the hidden trails and back alleys.

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<v Speaker 1>We can see the whole picture, not just the main roads.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and with that we can uncover potential issues that

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<v Speaker 2>we might have missed otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's incredibly powerful. We learned so much in this

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive from those basic concepts of binary analysis all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to this cutting edge symbolic execution stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to see how we can peel back those layers

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<v Speaker 1>of compiled code and really grasp how software works at

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<v Speaker 1>its core.

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<v Speaker 2>It is truly fascinating and there's always more to explore,

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<v Speaker 2>more techniques to discover.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like we've gained a super power, like the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to see the matrix. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>guiding us through this incredible world.

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<v Speaker 2>The pleasure was all mine, and remember the best way

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<v Speaker 2>to learn is by doing so. Grab your tools, pick

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<v Speaker 2>a binary that piques your interest, and start exploring. That

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<v Speaker 2>vast world of binary analysis is waiting to be discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>And to all the listeners out there, happy analyzing,
