Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand.
Speaker 2: Okay, so slowly everyone squeezes out of the holidays now
Speaker 2: in the new year, and seems everywhere you went for
Speaker 2: the past couple of months, everything was crowded, right packed.
Speaker 2: That's a good thing as far as economy goes. It's
Speaker 2: a good thing. People are out spending money, being a
Speaker 2: part of things, engaging other people. But with that and
Speaker 2: with the crowds, you will notice there's certain patterns. Were
Speaker 2: you somewhere that were was so crowded that you kind
Speaker 2: of all kind of moved with everyone else almost as
Speaker 2: one big mass. And if you've ever gone to a
Speaker 2: place where it could be a concert, of ball game, whatever,
Speaker 2: it might be, shopping somewhere where they're having a huge
Speaker 2: sale and there's tons of people wherever you might be.
Speaker 2: While you're with that many people, you'll see that the
Speaker 2: mass kind of takes over the individual kind of becomes
Speaker 2: a blob of humanity moving in one direction, and to
Speaker 2: go in a different direction, or to have a single
Speaker 2: mind or desire or focus becomes difficult, if not impossible.
Speaker 2: It's not a good thing. I don't want you to
Speaker 2: be a part of that mass that moves you from
Speaker 2: point A to point B without you even having a
Speaker 2: decision as to where you stand or where you go.
Speaker 2: Scripture talks about this. Scripture talks about the two gates
Speaker 2: and the paths that follow. Matthew seven thirteen says, enter
Speaker 2: through the narrow gate. For the wide is the gate,
Speaker 2: and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and
Speaker 2: many enter through it. But small is the gate, and
Speaker 2: narrow the road that leads to life, and only a
Speaker 2: few find it. People go back and forth as to
Speaker 2: what I was talking about here and what I meant,
Speaker 2: And there's arguments as to why I use this particular language.
Speaker 2: There are those that go back to Jewish canons and
Speaker 2: say that there's certain measurements for different areas it So
Speaker 2: it says in those writings, a private way was four cubits,
Speaker 2: broad away from city to city was eight cubits, a
Speaker 2: public way sixteen cubits, and the way to the cities
Speaker 2: of refuge thirty two cubits. So these are measurements that
Speaker 2: people get in their mind as to what a broad
Speaker 2: road is, what a wide road is. Of course, two
Speaker 2: thousand years ago, with all the city walls, oftentimes you
Speaker 2: had to enter through a gate. There were times where
Speaker 2: it's simple, and there's times where it's difficult, depending on
Speaker 2: the size the place you're going. But I want you
Speaker 2: to think about it in a different sense. You hear
Speaker 2: the term narrow minded all the time, and of course
Speaker 2: I don't want you to be narrow minded that although
Speaker 2: many people believe that just by the very nature of
Speaker 2: your faith, you're narrow minded, which is pretty narrow minded
Speaker 2: of them, don't you think. But when people say narrow minded,
Speaker 2: it's set as a pejorative. It's negative, telling you that
Speaker 2: you have one thought and you don't ever add to it,
Speaker 2: that you push anything away that's not that thought. That's
Speaker 2: not what I want. Of course, I want you to
Speaker 2: always test all things into study and to learn and
Speaker 2: to show yourself approved. But when I say be narrow minded,
Speaker 2: I mean being narrow minded like the narrow gate. Focus minded,
Speaker 2: focusing on what God has for you, focusing on the
Speaker 2: things of God and the things of Heaven as they
Speaker 2: pertain to this earth and vice versa. Not focusing on
Speaker 2: just you want when you want it. Not focusing just
Speaker 2: on the things of the world, because that's where the
Speaker 2: mass is. That's like that blob that I told you
Speaker 2: about that. When you're at a concert, or you're at
Speaker 2: a ballgame, or you're with lots of people, they just
Speaker 2: kind of shuttle from one place to the other. And
Speaker 2: really whoever's leading is at the front, and they may
Speaker 2: be leading you down a path you don't want to go.
Speaker 2: If you're a follow like a line of cars, when
Speaker 2: you assume you're all going to the same place and
Speaker 2: then you end up somewhere different, you oh, well, I
Speaker 2: just assumed they were going where I was going. Don't assume,
Speaker 2: of course, as you know what that does. But when
Speaker 2: you assume those things, or you get caught up in
Speaker 2: that mob mentality, you get pushed like that broad road,
Speaker 2: that wide gate that leads to destruction, because you're going
Speaker 2: with the flow, entering through the small gate, the narrow gate.
Speaker 2: The narrow road is showing that you are walking with
Speaker 2: God alone, that you're focused on the will of God
Speaker 2: and not just the will of the people. Yes, many, many,
Speaker 2: many people can be wrong. And it's not that I
Speaker 2: don't want you to learn the skills of following and humility,
Speaker 2: but to also learn the skill the skills of leading
Speaker 2: in your life, of course directed by me, and in
Speaker 2: doing so you become a leader of your life. It
Speaker 2: talks about in scripture that God and his word is
Speaker 2: the lamp unto your feet. So if I guide you
Speaker 2: and you take that direction, and you guide yourself with it,
Speaker 2: you are on that narrow road. You are narrow minded,
Speaker 2: not in the sense the world wants to call you
Speaker 2: narrow minded, but you're focused. You're of one thought. The
Speaker 2: world wants to tell you that being of one focus
Speaker 2: is a bad idea. You should just encompass everything, and
Speaker 2: that gets you nowhere, That gets you on the wide
Speaker 2: road end mass pushing and shoving and going a place
Speaker 2: that you may not know or may not like when
Speaker 2: you end up there, and that mentality is kind of well,
Speaker 2: everybody's doing this or everyone's doing that. How many times
Speaker 2: did your parents tell you, well, if you so and
Speaker 2: so jumped off a bridge, would you Unfortunately, if you're
Speaker 2: in a group of people that seems to be walking
Speaker 2: down a particular path and you're not checking yourself and
Speaker 2: you're not aware truly of where they're going, then you
Speaker 2: tend to follow ask questions always when someone's it's okay
Speaker 2: to be led by someone, but ask questions a point
Speaker 2: your leaders don't just follow in a proper balance between
Speaker 2: leader and follower. There should be communication, there should always
Speaker 2: be questions, and there should be harmony. If there's a
Speaker 2: breakdown in there somewhere, then it's just a pied piper.
Speaker 2: And this goes forward everything love, relationships, politics, religion, all
Speaker 2: of it. And if you get lazy, you get complacent,
Speaker 2: if you just do what everyone else is doing, you'll
Speaker 2: end up where everyone else ends up. And it may
Speaker 2: not be where you think, and it may not be
Speaker 2: what you want, and it may not be what you
Speaker 2: think is going to be at the end of it all.
Speaker 2: Now there are narrow gates and there are wide gates.
Speaker 2: And I realize when you see the wide gates it
Speaker 2: looks simpler, easier, more welcoming. But to take the time
Speaker 2: to use discernment so that you can decide which is
Speaker 2: the best way for you to go, and to know
Speaker 2: that on the ways and paths that are best for you,
Speaker 2: oftentimes they'll be the ones that you travel on your own.
Speaker 2: They don't need to be wide. The narrow way. The
Speaker 2: narrow path is so that it is there's enough room
Speaker 2: for you and enough room for me. Steve, Welcome to
Speaker 2: the Jesus Christ show.
Speaker 1: Praise you Jesus and your show because it's a great
Speaker 1: teaching tool.
Speaker 2: I'll glory to God. Thanks Steve. How can I help you?
Speaker 1: Well? One of the things I was looking at in
Speaker 1: was a very valuable lesson to me was when I
Speaker 1: was working for the probation department at Juvenile Hall. And
Speaker 1: the thing that I learned and I thank God for it,
Speaker 1: was that you don't know when you make a difference
Speaker 1: because the people don't come back, it's like the ones
Speaker 1: that do come back, it's like God's giving you another
Speaker 1: chance to make a difference in their lives.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, but in your line of work, but in
Speaker 2: the probation when they don't come back, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: That's true because you know you made a difference in
Speaker 1: their life and that was God's direction.
Speaker 2: You know, there's many miracles that are noted, and you
Speaker 2: go through scripture Steve, and you can see where I
Speaker 2: healed the sick or I cast out demons, and there's
Speaker 2: only one case where someone actually physically comes back to
Speaker 2: thank me. And it's just one of those things that
Speaker 2: you don't always get to experience what you've done or
Speaker 2: how you've touched somebody or helped them in some way
Speaker 2: in some shape. That's just not the way it always works.
Speaker 2: But you have to trust that when you're doing that
Speaker 2: which is right, that other people see that and then
Speaker 2: it will motivate them. And in a type of work
Speaker 2: like the probation office, that's one of those. Often you know,
Speaker 2: you don't get a whole lot of thanks, and the
Speaker 2: work that you guys do is very very important, and
Speaker 2: it's very easy to get that feeling of being unnoticed,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot that goes on there, and really
Speaker 2: the reward of it has to be doing things right.
Speaker 2: You see parents that say, you know, I pay my
Speaker 2: kid five dollars to clean his room. Now, I don't
Speaker 2: have any problem with an allowance or anything like that,
Speaker 2: so don't get me wrong. But what I do have
Speaker 2: a problem with is that is when you teach a
Speaker 2: child that the reward is the money and not the
Speaker 2: clean room. You see, when you clean a room, the
Speaker 2: reward is the clean room. When you have good hygiene,
Speaker 2: the reward is the good hygiene. When you do your chores,
Speaker 2: when you do all that, the ward is the clean house.
Speaker 2: Is an organized house is an orderly house. That is
Speaker 2: the reward. So I whenever there's an allowance given, I'd
Speaker 2: like to see that they that you at least take
Speaker 2: the time to teach the child that the reward is
Speaker 2: what they've done, not the money. Henry, Welcome to the
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Jesus Christ. I feel that I'm at a law. Say,
Speaker 3: I've been following your radio show and trying to learn
Speaker 3: from your scriptures. H. What's weighing on my heart now
Speaker 3: is uh? And when when you mentioned Matthew six and two. Uh,
Speaker 3: what we've done is we had an issue with the
Speaker 3: Christian flag flying on our Veterans Memorial, with the A
Speaker 3: c l U wanting to take the flag down.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, we we got together in a bunch of the
Speaker 3: people protests. Uh. We did have a thirty day visual Uh.
Speaker 3: And before I started was we started seeing so many
Speaker 3: veterans coming from everywhere. Well, what we found out is
Speaker 3: a lot of these these people were homeless and hungry.
Speaker 3: So I got with some some people up there. I said,
Speaker 3: we can help these people.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, we formed uh a foundation and we said, well
Speaker 3: you know, let's get with these people and see if
Speaker 3: we can't can't help them. We got with one of Uh.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to call the church's name, but
Speaker 3: it's one of the biggest churches in our area. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know I felt good about it. The people that's
Speaker 3: working with me felt good about it. Uh and uh,
Speaker 3: it's it's we have over seven hundred thousand just veterans
Speaker 3: alone that's homeless, three that are female. And then whatever
Speaker 3: really felt good is is I said, well, we can
Speaker 3: make an impact on this.
Speaker 2: Okay. So so you you were moved to actually be
Speaker 2: active and start an organization to help homeless veterans. That's
Speaker 2: a wonderful thing. Okay. And earlier as we talked about
Speaker 2: Matthew six six and Matthew six two about feeling like
Speaker 2: nobody's seeing what you're doing and if you seek the
Speaker 2: reward on earth, that's what you'll get and it won't
Speaker 2: be much, but that God sees even the secret things
Speaker 2: and knows what's going on. And how does that tie
Speaker 2: into your call today?
Speaker 3: Well, thos In is a you know, hunger is a
Speaker 3: terrible thing and I don't think there should be anybody
Speaker 3: in the world hungry.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 3: Oh, And I said, well, you know, we can help
Speaker 3: these people with a can of soup or something. So
Speaker 3: I says, well, I got with the pastor of the
Speaker 3: church and I says, can we do something? Well, what
Speaker 3: I'd got uh from him, was well, this is not
Speaker 3: the issue. The issue is the king Christian flag. So
Speaker 3: I said, fine, we'll, we'll, we'll.
Speaker 2: So their concern was more about whether the flag could fly,
Speaker 2: the Christian flag could fly, or a flag with Christian
Speaker 2: symbols could fly over whether somebody got food to eat.
Speaker 1: Yes, Uh, that was the issue.
Speaker 3: And I felt, I said, well, you know, it's more
Speaker 3: of who am I You know, when all the Camber
Speaker 3: cruise and everything was gone, I mean they weren't around,
Speaker 3: uh so uh. And talk with some of these veterans,
Speaker 3: and majority of them had tattoos from back hey John
Speaker 3: three sixteen okay, for which told me they were believers.
Speaker 2: Sure, I would imagine it takes some faith to get
Speaker 2: a tattoo of Scripture on your arm.
Speaker 3: And I feel, well, have they lost faith in God?
Speaker 3: Or have they lost faith in Man? Or what do
Speaker 3: I do? Where do I turn on saying God hasn't
Speaker 3: forgotten you? Well, you'll find a way.
Speaker 2: I mean it's no God has God has not forgotten them?
Speaker 2: And that actually does tie in Henry to the scriptures
Speaker 2: we talked about, because there is a lot of men
Speaker 2: and women that fought for the United States and for
Speaker 2: the freedoms therein that do end up going into bad
Speaker 2: situations when they get home. I'll find it hard to
Speaker 2: find work and things like that, and are caught up
Speaker 2: doing so many having done so many great things for
Speaker 2: the United States, and now in a situation of being
Speaker 2: desperate or homeless or as you say, even hungry. There's
Speaker 2: a lot to that story. So and it's you know,
Speaker 2: the amount of time that we have to kind of
Speaker 2: iron through. It is not what we'd always like. But
Speaker 2: I would say this what I can sort from the
Speaker 2: things you were telling me, that the church could very
Speaker 2: well be misfocused. Absolutely, that local church there could be
Speaker 2: misfocused on what they're fighting for. And this is something
Speaker 2: we've talked about on the program many times, Henry, is
Speaker 2: that the church oftentimes gets focused on one thing and
Speaker 2: it becomes a political thing, and it becomes more important
Speaker 2: than anything else, and then people lose sight of that
Speaker 2: which is important. And because of these things, should you
Speaker 2: defend yourself and your right to worship the way you
Speaker 2: want to worship? Absolutely, should you be able to fly
Speaker 2: a flag with Christian symbols on in the United States. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: are there concerns that the ACLU has with separation of
Speaker 2: church and state, Yes, but how that ties into a
Speaker 2: man or woman needing to eat is beyond me. It's
Speaker 2: not an either or, it's a both, and you can
Speaker 2: defend things personally. I don't care whether flag is flown
Speaker 2: or not. If every man, woman, and child gave their
Speaker 2: life to me, then a flag is unnecessary. So it's
Speaker 2: really kind of misses the point. People don't necessarily drive
Speaker 2: by a flag and say, well, that has Christian symbols
Speaker 2: on it. I want to give my life to God.
Speaker 2: But when they see an act of kindness, when they
Speaker 2: see you feeding somebody who needs to eat, when they
Speaker 2: see you showing love and compassion, that that moves people
Speaker 2: to want to change their lives as well. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of sides here, and we don't have all
Speaker 2: the participants. So I'm going to leave you with this
Speaker 2: that if you feel moved to do something and it's
Speaker 2: a noble cause, a cause that's in line with the
Speaker 2: will of God, then by all means do it. One
Speaker 2: of the most difficult things, and this is why there's
Speaker 2: four Gospels. Is that it's very easy for people to
Speaker 2: get caught up in their world. And that is because
Speaker 2: everybody's the star of their own movie, and they get
Speaker 2: caught up in their world. And that means whatever their
Speaker 2: focus is is the most important focus. And if you
Speaker 2: feel moved to take care of veterans, that is an
Speaker 2: incredibly noble and wonderful thing. Do it. Gather those that
Speaker 2: can help, gather all those that will hear, and do it.
Speaker 2: But don't expect everybody to have the same response you do,
Speaker 2: because the purpose of having so many people with different
Speaker 2: focuses is to complete all the needs to the best way,
Speaker 2: in the best possible way. And if everybody's focused on
Speaker 2: one thing. I know churches go through this all the time.
Speaker 2: They have their Philippians Fund or whatever they have that
Speaker 2: they give to people in their church when they are
Speaker 2: out of work, or these types of things, feeding them,
Speaker 2: doing things for them. But then another group will come
Speaker 2: in and they have their charity or their group and
Speaker 2: they'll come to the church and they'll say, hey, we
Speaker 2: need money for this. Church says, I'm sorry, we don't
Speaker 2: have money for that. We have it set aside for
Speaker 2: this and that organization walks away going that church doesn't
Speaker 2: love God and aren't doing it. No, that church has
Speaker 2: a calling as well, and everybody kind of gets wrapped
Speaker 2: up in their own focus and what their own interests are.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of worthy causes out there and they
Speaker 2: all need attention. And this way different people are being
Speaker 2: moved and called and emotionally motivated, then people more people
Speaker 2: will get taken care of. So continue to holler and
Speaker 2: use your trumpet to get people to notice. But don't
Speaker 2: expect every church or every Christian to necessarily participate, as
Speaker 2: they might be helping someone else. And my reference to
Speaker 2: the Gospels is that the reason why there's four Gospels
Speaker 2: is for perspective. You want to get the perspective of
Speaker 2: the individuals as they see fit. Because some were preaching
Speaker 2: to the gentiles, some were preaching to the Jews, and
Speaker 2: the different insights are important to understand in their fullness.
Speaker 2: Just too easy to get so hyper focused that everything
Speaker 2: else becomes unimportant based on what you're doing. Now. The
Speaker 2: second part of that Henry dealing with the people of
Speaker 2: faith that are kind of losing their faith and humanity. Well,
Speaker 2: join the club. There's a lot of people that experience that,
Speaker 2: and you can either let it consume you and pull
Speaker 2: you from God, which the devil would love, or you
Speaker 2: can use to motivate you and propel you into doing
Speaker 2: something great, which I think you've done. So it really
Speaker 2: is what you do with that information, what you do
Speaker 2: with the experiences of dealing with these people that have
Speaker 2: given up so much for their country, that are now
Speaker 2: in need, and that it surely would be wonderful if
Speaker 2: every man, woman, and child in the United States did
Speaker 2: their part to take care of these veterans. But there's
Speaker 2: also other things that need to be taken care of,
Speaker 2: and you can't hate somebody for that, or you can't
Speaker 2: you can't raise your fist at somebody who's taking care
Speaker 2: of someone else. That's what they're feeling called to do.
Speaker 2: You just have to make sure that everybody understands that
Speaker 2: there's a need, that you facilitate a process in which
Speaker 2: people can help that need or take care of that need.
Speaker 2: And that's doing a wonderful thing right there. And you'll
Speaker 2: see that the veterans and the people that are being
Speaker 2: taken care of and that are receiving these this help
Speaker 2: or these goods from you, that their their spirit will lift,
Speaker 2: but don't underestimate them. They're warriors by nature, and they
Speaker 2: have taken a lot and they will continue to fight
Speaker 2: and they continue to have faith as is their nature,
Speaker 2: and that is why they are the ones that are
Speaker 2: chosen and to do the things that they've done is
Speaker 2: because of their character and their ability to stand tall
Speaker 2: and tough in times of great turmoil. Andrea, welcome to
Speaker 2: the Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: Yes, hello, thank you for taking my.
Speaker 2: Call, my pleasure helping me help you.
Speaker 4: I'm fairly new to Christianity and the study of the Bible.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome, and there's thank you.
Speaker 4: And there's something I've been grappling with and confused by,
Speaker 4: and that is why does the Bible so often ask
Speaker 4: us to have fear or to fear God? Is this
Speaker 4: reflection more of the historical time the Bible was written.
Speaker 2: No, but it does seem that way, and it does
Speaker 2: tie into that a little bit because one of the
Speaker 2: things that should be feared or respected is the concept
Speaker 2: of God's wrath. So imagine it this way. And there's
Speaker 2: two basic types of fear that are talked about in scripture.
Speaker 2: The spirit of fear is the kind of fear that
Speaker 2: comes to mind when you hear the word fear, and
Speaker 2: it's that that insecure type feeling of something might happen
Speaker 2: more tied into anxiety and things like that. That is
Speaker 2: not of God, that is not a good thing, and
Speaker 2: that's not the type of fear you should have towards God.
Speaker 2: The fear that it's talking about, it is a type
Speaker 2: of reverence. But even beyond that, So imagine this, if
Speaker 2: you were walking on a tightrope, there should be a
Speaker 2: healthy fear of falling. That fear is what keeps you
Speaker 2: on the tightrope not wanting to fall, and that's what
Speaker 2: teaches you the proper balance and proper technique to get
Speaker 2: across that tightrope and not fall. If you didn't fear
Speaker 2: and you didn't care, then you would more likely be
Speaker 2: out of balance or not take the time to focus
Speaker 2: yourself or learn how to do it. Now, that's the
Speaker 2: proper type of fear. Now, if you had anxiety about
Speaker 2: it and you walk that tightrope, you'd be in the
Speaker 2: same place if you didn't have any fear at all.
Speaker 2: So that's the different types of fear.
Speaker 4: It's a healthy sphere that we're discussing here, not maybe
Speaker 4: a fear of older biblical times where they actually had
Speaker 4: that anxiety.
Speaker 2: Fear, Well, it's more about the improper understanding or belittling
Speaker 2: of God. If you can light a fire in your house,
Speaker 2: you can light a match, you can use it to
Speaker 2: warm yourself. You understand the concept of fire, but you
Speaker 2: have to respect it in a way to know that
Speaker 2: if you misused it, it can destroy your entire life. Now,
Speaker 2: with God, it's not about a punishment issue the same
Speaker 2: way it is about the will of God is perfection,
Speaker 2: and that's that you should always desire to continue to
Speaker 2: refine yourself throughout the process of your learning and knowing
Speaker 2: more about God, and that when you stray from God
Speaker 2: is when problems can occur. So fearing God, it says
Speaker 2: in scripture that the fear of God is the beginning
Speaker 2: of wisdom. That means you're truly understanding life and creation
Speaker 2: and everything that surrounds it. If you understand that God
Speaker 2: has to come first, and that God is the uncreated
Speaker 2: creator of all creation and holds the key to all things,
Speaker 2: that is a reverence that supersedes what you would say.
Speaker 2: With reverence, it becomes a fear.
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