1 00:00:14,679 --> 00:00:21,760 What is crack a blacket Augnastris Day one a free agency not really in the 2 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,960 books. I'm old enough to remember when day one of free agency ment starting 3 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:31,079 right now, July first, at midnight, we had the contract extension dump. 4 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,079 If you would like to talk about any of those, we have comments 5 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:38,039 from our discord members that I will get two thoughts questions from them. They're 6 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:43,840 all they're all super awesome. Feel free to to ask yourself if you're if 7 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,880 you're in here quite the day of NBA Free agency, I'll eventually go through 8 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,880 what I think we're some interesting signings, puzzling signings, whatever you necessarily want 9 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,640 to whatever you necessarily want to call it. I think there was a bunch 10 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,679 of interesting deals and there was a lot of business for league that was supposedly 11 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:04,359 going to sort of wait and see what happened with Kevin Durant. There are 12 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:08,439 no doubt some teams that are still sort of in in that weight and C 13 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,159 mode. But yeah, so the extensions we've seen come down for the rookie 14 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,319 so far or not rookies, it's not just rookie. Karl Anthony Towns Nakoliokich 15 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:19,120 both sign supermaxes. Devin Booker. Those are not rookie scales. John Morant 16 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,519 got his rookie scale max as expected as well. It was funny that Wogan 17 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:27,879 it was basically just what was sort of unloaded the clip on his extensions tweet 18 00:01:29,079 --> 00:01:30,879 at midnight. Those are probably all expected. I thought maybe there was a 19 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,319 chance that Karl Anthony Towns would wait, FK Retros. Isn't the chat you 20 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,840 spoke that Heartenstein signing into existence and I hate you. Yes, shout out 21 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,000 to you. We were having back and forth in discord about this. I 22 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,760 love the Hertenstein signing for the Knicks. Looking at what he did last season 23 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:52,560 with the Clippers. He hit a good percentage of his three he didn't take 24 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,400 a lot of them. I was more impressed with his floater, his passing, 25 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:59,200 even sort of his finishing not super explosive, but we'll make plays like 26 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,000 above the rim, catching finishes, and his defense is like one of the 27 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:05,879 statistically one of the best room protectors in the game. Two years sixteen million 28 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,159 dollars to steal when you have mo Bamba, I think got two years like 29 00:02:08,159 --> 00:02:13,120 twenty or twenty two. I found that surprising. As sort of a housekeeping 30 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,759 note here as well, I looked up as many terms as possible for a 31 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,280 lot of these deals, but we're going to find out in coming days that 32 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:24,759 there are team options or player options uncertain some of these contracts. One of 33 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,599 them, though, is not. The Marvin Bagley three year was a thirty 34 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,639 seven million dollars he got that's apparently fully guaranteed with no outs on both sides. 35 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:36,080 Yeah, three years, thirty seven million dollars. I thought that was 36 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:42,039 pretty steep. And yes, I agree that Hartenstein should be start starting for 37 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,800 the Knicks. Well, see what happens with Mitchell Robinson. He was supposed 38 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,240 to go back on a four year, sixty million dollars I think was what 39 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:52,400 I read, but we heard nothing about that during the first six hours of 40 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,520 free agency. But the hartenstign signing. I really liked Tyas Jones going back 41 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,919 to the Memphis Grizzlies. That's a huge win for me. I like another 42 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,680 Memphy in or Memphis player Kyle Anderson going to the tener Wolves. I really 43 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:08,840 like that fit. If you can get lineups with carl anthy Towns at the 44 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:12,879 five and Anderson at the four, I don't ever want to see him and 45 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,120 Jared Vanderbilt playing together. I guess Towns would technically give you the luxury. 46 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,360 But the Wolves have just some interesting defenders on their team. Now. They 47 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,759 already had that in Beverly and Jaden McDaniels and Vanderbilt. Now you're adding Kyle 48 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,879 Anderson there. That's a lot of malluability. I'm very remain fascinated by that 49 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,280 team, which still feels like they kind of need to like have this bigger 50 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:36,000 move at some point. I don't know if it will come, but they 51 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:38,759 can do. Look, they can do some freaky deeky stuff. Now Towns 52 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,439 under contract for the next six years, even if there's a player option at 53 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:44,400 the end of that, they have five more years of caring Anthy Towns and 54 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,479 that really gives them a lot of letters to be aggressive in other moves. 55 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,319 I think the Jail and Brunson signing, let's start. We've talked a ton 56 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,439 about this, and look, if there's questions about kd or Kyrie or new 57 00:03:55,479 --> 00:04:00,919 News pops up, we did a whole podcast on them already. Strop says 58 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Wolves are very unorthodox. What is up Straps? They could certainly be, 59 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,000 but I think Karl Anthony Towns is sort of like the best shooting five in 60 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:12,639 basketball right now gives you that opportunity to try it. If you could go 61 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:16,519 all defense and super big and go Kyle Anderson, Jayden Daniels, Jared Vanderbilt 62 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,399 and Towns on the court, and then Andy Edwards at the one. I 63 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:24,480 wouldn't necessarily love that lineup, but I'm I am curious to see some of 64 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:29,079 what their their packages look like during games next season. But again, if 65 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,800 Katie Kyrie stuff pops up nets, whatever, or if you have questions, 66 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,839 you can throw it in the chat that to whoever stragglers that might come alost 67 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:38,360 this. We can talk about that. But it's we hit that in an 68 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:42,040 entire podcast already today. Jalen Brunson, I won't spend too much time on 69 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:44,680 that. I think people were starting to confuse. As soon as that money 70 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,160 came through four years, one hundred four million dollars, there was like this 71 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,519 sentiment among like trying to be trendy Twitter, that that is fine, that 72 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,800 it's good money, that Jalen Bruns is a good player. You didn't watch 73 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Jalen Brunson. I think for Knicks fans and media members that don't understand this, 74 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,399 it's not about Jalen Brunson. It's only about the Knicks. Jalen Brunson 75 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,639 is fantastic. I phrased it as I'm morbidly curious to see how he does 76 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,639 working within tighter confines where Knicks routinely play two or three non shooters. But 77 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,360 he was one of the best finishers drives last year. He puts a lot 78 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,560 of pressure on the rim, great footwork, all dribble. Not the worst 79 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,120 defender you've ever seen. But that's if I wouldn't play him and quickly together 80 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,879 for long stretch, I mean I would fuck it. I would try it. 81 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:27,120 I'd like to see the knis something unorthodox, But you don't really want 82 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,199 to play him and Derrick Rose together, I don't think. But just the 83 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,079 Knicks direction is still just so confusing to me. I don't know what their 84 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,720 end game is with having Jalen Brunson. They having to resigned Mitchell Robinson just 85 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,199 yet. We'll see if they extend RJ. Barrett. He was not among 86 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:46,000 the extensions announced. I think Jah is the only actually rookie extension I've seen 87 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:48,160 so far. Waiting on Zion to see what those terms are gonna be like. 88 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,600 So the Brunson contract and a vacuum is fine. I just don't think 89 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:59,079 that the I just don't think that the Knicks are in a position where they 90 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,879 should be paying someone who isn't the guy that much money. That's just free 91 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,360 and clear. That's really where I'm at at this point, and we'll see 92 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:09,519 how it pans out for them. There needs to be other moves here. 93 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:12,600 They've decided that you're going to get a star via trade, most likely orthough 94 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,519 they ended up going after Brunson in free agency, They're still set up to 95 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,560 do a bunch of things. They have a bunch of different first round picks, 96 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,800 and again I like the Hartnerstein signing. There's technically they might have a 97 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,240 floor spacing five. Now if you play him with Julius Randall and then Jalen 98 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:30,079 Brunson and RJ Barrett and then just insert shooter, that could be fairly interesting. 99 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,600 They no longer have out berks though, and dark Rose isn't a shooter. 100 00:06:31,879 --> 00:06:35,120 You probably makes that light up a little too small or excuse too heavily 101 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,199 offense, But who the hell knows. I loved that signing though. How 102 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,480 about all those Utah moves? Yeah, what is up? Trading Roys O'Neill 103 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,480 for a future first round pick was certainly a decision, and I don't know 104 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:50,600 what it was a harbinger of I was really expecting there to be announced with 105 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:54,360 that. Rudy Gobert was traded after that, because it was just like you 106 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:02,959 traded your best non Gobert defender and you get like further below the the tax 107 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,519 for that, I mean Royce O'Neil salary maybe alone was the difference between the 108 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,240 tax. I think I have them at like eight million. They didn't need 109 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,560 to dump off that much, is my point. If they wanted to duct 110 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,199 the tax, does that mean there's another move coming? Does this make it 111 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,360 more likely they're going to use their mid level exception? I would argue that 112 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,600 the you know, Wednesday night, Thursday night with day is it holy crap? 113 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,839 That would have been the day to do it, and they didn't do 114 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:30,439 anything. So I don't know what's awaiting this team. I almost just like 115 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,360 it wasn't I don't know, it was ominous, just dumping Roys O'Neil essentially 116 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:39,480 like that who struggled was not the same type of player, But you saddle 117 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:43,639 your yourself with that much responsibility year in and year out on the perimeter without 118 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,519 too much help, and just see how it treats you. Utah is there. 119 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,079 They remain implosive, combustible, and sort of a mystery. A couple 120 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,120 other mysteries here. So Dallas had a bad night. I'm not a fan 121 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,680 of the the the Knicks contract for Jalon Brunson, but you're the Mavericks. 122 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:07,160 You had at least twice, we know that Jalen Brunson, on two separate 123 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,079 occasions, would have signed what was basically a four year, fifty six million 124 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:13,519 dollars extension. You said nope. At least both those times went back after 125 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,720 the trade deadline. He decided not to sign it. Good for him, 126 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,480 I mean, he basically doubled up his money almost he came very close to 127 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,560 it. But then you go back to him before free agency, although there 128 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,800 are conflicting reports saying that they never got a chance to pitch him, and 129 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:31,399 you're gonna offer him five years and one hundred and six. The Knicks gave 130 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:35,519 him four and one oh four. I believe all of which is guaranteed. 131 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,120 And by the way, Jalen Brunson's agent, Sam Rose, is the son 132 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,480 of Leon Rose, who just so happens to be the team president of the 133 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:46,519 Knicks, if anybody cares who by the Knicks on their coaching staff, Tom 134 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,159 Thibodeau's assistant is Rick Brunson, Jalen's father. In that defense of that move, 135 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,679 in so far as in as much as it needs one or deserves one, 136 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Rick was on Tibs's assistant staff in Chicago, and I believe Minnie as 137 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,279 just a fun aside. So the MAVs didn't even offer Brunson over five what 138 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,960 the Knicks are offering him over four. That could be used to prove how 139 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:09,759 ridiculous the Knicks are. It could also be used to prove that Dallas really 140 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:15,519 fucked up here and now they're just left if there's still time technically for this 141 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,440 to turn into a sign and trade. But you really got caught holding the 142 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,320 bag on this one, and it just it's not a great look for you. 143 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:28,159 And then and then I don't understand the theory. Let me let me 144 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,559 correct myself of Javal McGee in Dallas works. But three years, twenty point 145 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,159 four million dollars good for him, and it's all guaranteed. And the only 146 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,440 reason it wouldn't be guaranteed is because there's a player option at the end of 147 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,480 it. You need to explain that one to me. I get that you 148 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,919 want to give Luca another lab threat or you're trying to move Dwight Powell at 149 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,399 some point. I mean, you have Christian Wood there that's not like the 150 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:56,519 quintessential lab threat, But do you need that big I guess that raw rim 151 00:09:56,519 --> 00:09:58,399 protector you thought that you did. Maxi Cleeb was there too, So I 152 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,159 don't know if portends like another move just a very I would say disappointing to 153 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,000 blost start for Dallas, and we knew they were gonna kind of lose Brunson, 154 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,799 but it's just the optics on this one or for them specifically, or 155 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:16,399 really just I mean, they're not great going through some of these discord comments. 156 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,279 Retro's in here. What do we do now that heart is gone? 157 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,279 I don't know what you do. I mean, you just I'm assuming they're 158 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:26,840 gonna play some more smaller a lot. You have a Viza Zubots now under 159 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:30,080 that extension. If we're gonna touch on the Clippers, the Nick patuone deal 160 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:31,240 is fine. Two years, twenty two million. That we knew that was 161 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,399 in the works from when he came back on a non bird rights deal last 162 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,039 summer. Love the Amir Coffee signing. And if I was a smart team, 163 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,960 I know he was a restricted free agent, I would have given him 164 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,840 more and tried to get him from the Clippers. Just a lot of I 165 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,840 think I said this previously on one of the Live podcasts, a lot of 166 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:52,639 two way acumen from him this past season. Showed a little bit of ball 167 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,240 handling. He shot the three ball well enough, very tertiary playmaking, able 168 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,080 to put the ball on the floor a little bit, and I liked this 169 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,519 is like a prerequis it for playing with the Clippers a lot of times. 170 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,039 But they moved him around a ton defensively. So I love that a deal 171 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,039 for the Clippers, and I'm glad that he gets. We'll see what the 172 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,679 full guarantees are. It's being reported. I'm looking at it as guaranteed fully, 173 00:11:11,759 --> 00:11:13,919 Just good for him to get, you know, spending all that time 174 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,039 on a two way contract only to now you you get that three year, 175 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,559 eleven million dollars deal. They could still look to the Clippers defense, insofar 176 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:26,679 as you're concerned about this. They didn't sign DeAndre Jordan, so good for 177 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:31,159 them. That's better than what the Nuggets did. But they did extend Nicolaiokis 178 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,039 five years, two hundred and seventy million, the richest contract extension so far 179 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,360 in NBA history, and the Nuggets are puzzling. I don't really have anywhere 180 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,320 else to go for the Clippers. I mean, we could still talk about, 181 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:43,320 like some of the bigs that are if they want a truer big I 182 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,080 feel like they kind of prioritize players though for the most part, who are 183 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:52,559 just you know, more dynamic, and so you're not going to go out 184 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,720 there and see them sign in my guess. I mean, I could obviously 185 00:11:56,799 --> 00:11:58,120 be wrong with this, or you're going to see them give the minimum to 186 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,919 on Whiteside. That's just not somebody I would expect them to go after. 187 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,639 So Thomas Bryant could be fairly interesting for them. I don't know what his 188 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,399 market is gonna look like, but he hasn't resigned yet. Gorgi jan is 189 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,600 still kind of sitting around out there, and those are bigs that are just 190 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:18,720 a little bit more or a lot more dynamic than a Hassan white Side on 191 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:20,600 offense at least, So those would be names to watch if you think that 192 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:24,519 they need a big. They don't sound big though they're gonna be. That's 193 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:26,799 a one Zoobos been playing a ship ton of minutes, You're also going to 194 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,279 probably be playing a lot smaller, which is maybe that means you don't get 195 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,960 rid of Marcus Morris Senior. Although Retro did say I think the Clippers trade 196 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:41,320 more or Canard for a quality big that should certainly be on the table. 197 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,039 They have enough surplus of wings to where they could make a win for big 198 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:50,600 trade and it wouldn't be egregious even though Luke Kennard trade for sure, that's 199 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,240 something that they could definitely look at as well. And they're both making I 200 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,639 would say Nard's suth like contract is longer, but his salary at twelve point 201 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,000 what is he yet or he's where's Lukenard? Wise? He got fourteen point 202 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:07,440 four. He's actually making more than I remember so, but their team option 203 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:11,720 on that final year. They're both tidy contracts to move. Maybe Morris is 204 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:16,000 just steep at sixteen point four and seventeen point one respectively over the next two 205 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,039 years. I would absolutely consider that, I thought, I mean, some 206 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,080 people fled like how far is Bouch's value on? Like would you do Morris 207 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,840 for vouch if that's the framework, and I think it comes close to like 208 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,679 pretty working Clippers might just send out another contract. I wouldn't do that if 209 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,759 on the Clippers. I don't know what that says about me or the state 210 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,759 of Nikola Bouchevic, but that's not something I would look at. And what 211 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,840 quality bigs are gonna wind up being available at this point. I mean that 212 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:43,840 maybe they're a Nick Clackston team at the trade deadline after he just resigned with 213 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,559 Brooklyn. That was puzzling to not keeping the Clackston That makes a ton of 214 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,720 sense. And I know Patty Mills got paid because he was able to sign. 215 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,879 And I'm just going to be drinking and energy drinking about all of this, 216 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,240 so I apologize to anyone who hears it. But Patty Mill is going 217 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,200 back to the Nets while they're imploding, Like Kyrie's gonna be traded, Kevin 218 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,519 Durant's gonna be traded. What happens with Ben Simmons, I guess he works 219 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:11,039 on that team if you're still trying to compete. I was just maybe that 220 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,960 was already in the works that he opted out and he even signed with him 221 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,679 the first place because they were gonna give him more than a non bird rights 222 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,519 deal, which is look, that's fine and they can still move that, 223 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,720 but it was that was one of the funnier ones to see Patty Mills all 224 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,480 of a sudden end up in back in Brooklyn. Excuse me, not end 225 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:37,360 up somewhere. Retro did mentioned in the discord that he would like Miles Turner. 226 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,399 I don't know. I mean, the Clippers can see radically trade a 227 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,399 first round pick, but I don't know if that's gonna get you Miles Turner, 228 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,240 and it's certainly using Marcus Morris as the primary just sort of matching fodder 229 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:52,639 there. I don't I don't think they have the juice to get Miles Turner 230 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,639 unless they're really gonna is Indiana, like really I on Teren's man. So 231 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,720 that would surprised me a little bit if they're able to get into that discussion. 232 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:05,320 I've been blanking on bigs that could be like available right now. Hey 233 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,679 how John Collins count as a big as Markus Moore senior as value falling that 234 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,159 far that that can be the anchor click of Pella would kind of be fun, 235 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,600 but you just you just paid Zubos such a modest amount. I'm curious 236 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,320 as to who you go after now. It's not going to be like a 237 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Mason Plumley type player. Dallas Again, if they wanted Powell, they could 238 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,600 do something. I wouldn't want Powell. I'd want Kleiba, who Dallas is 239 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:33,320 absolutely not going to trade. Denver does not have bigs to spare. I 240 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,840 guess Detroit, if you want Kelly Olynic, I'm just going through off the 241 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:39,360 top of my head right now, So anyone can feel free to add big 242 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,240 man targets for the Clippers, or if you have questions about something else, 243 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:46,399 hit us in the chizz ats. Kelly Olynick doesn't do it for me. 244 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,639 Houston isn't really sitting on any expendable bigs at the moment. They already traded 245 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,759 Christian would be already mentioned Miles Turner from India. I'd just be surprised if 246 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:02,480 the Clippers have the juice to get someone like that. There's no real big 247 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:06,480 to spare in Memphis, and especially after Jaren Jackson Junior injuring his foot and 248 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:08,399 out the next four to six months, you're keeping Steven Adams around and that's 249 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:15,200 not even a Clippers type player. Brook Lopez could be one. That's one 250 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,200 I didn't consider. If you're out there retro, what do you think about 251 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:25,279 brook Lopez for either Kenard or Marcus Moore Senior. Kenard is definitely strops. 252 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,240 You want you want Tyce uh look Dale Tysons Celtic lengend and always plays really 253 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,639 good there except for in certain playoff matchups. But brook Lopez could be interesting 254 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:37,639 for LAC on that ipiring contract. I don't know if Milwaukee would want Luconard. 255 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:45,919 I think he's probably a more valuable player at this point than Grayson Allen, 256 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,679 But like I'm not sure that you're allowed to have Grayson Allen and Luconard 257 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,480 on the same team. I just I really don't think that's that's loud. 258 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,159 And if you're using Marcus Morris Senior is sort of the anchor there, I 259 00:16:56,159 --> 00:17:00,720 feel like I might want more than brook Lopez, unless you just like the 260 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,680 idea of getting out from the final year of Marcus Morris's contract, because it 261 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,599 is a do you do George Hill and brook Lopez for Marcus Morris Senior? 262 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,000 I'm not just set. Like maybe George Hill has sort of like a rejuvenation 263 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:15,440 and in LAC. I would I would think about it if I'm if I'm 264 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,759 the Clippers there, but that might be the sort of the ceiling on the 265 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:21,839 big you can acquire. I'm gonna just rule out Daniel tie something behalf of 266 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:25,039 everyone, although thank you Strops for for that. I love. I don't 267 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:27,359 know why they would. I mean, I guess I could see it, 268 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,599 but like Luke Kenard for Larry Nance, I'm with the and I guess another 269 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,119 salary would have to come out or the Clippers willing to eat Garrett Temple. 270 00:17:36,319 --> 00:17:38,799 You can even use Marcus Morris Senior if New Orleans wanted him. Is sort 271 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:42,680 of when you do downsize design at the five, Marcus Morris Senior or in 272 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 the front court, whatever you want to say. It is Marcus Moore Senior 273 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,759 and Zion might make a touch more sense than Larry Nansen Zion just because Marcus 274 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:53,240 Moore Senior is going to be a higher volume shooter. That could be something. 275 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,799 And I love the idea of Larry Nansen in LAC. I'm gonna pat 276 00:17:56,839 --> 00:17:59,960 myself on the back for that one. I just don't know if New Orleans 277 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:03,519 be interested, but the Clippers are certainly contact down Detroit By the way, 278 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:07,640 I forgot they have Neurlands no well, and so can the Clippers work out 279 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,359 something with that That might be something for them to consider. Just those are 280 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,000 some big ste Keep in mind Obama's even off the market. I was surprised 281 00:18:15,079 --> 00:18:19,319 he went back to Orlando there, but I guess they're worried about Johnathan Isaac's 282 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,240 health. And Ben Carroll can play the four. And also Obamba played a 283 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,000 ship ton of minutes, like even more than a ship ton of minutes with 284 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,880 with Oh my god, Wendell Carter Junior is what is going on with me 285 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,240 right now? Rashaun Holmes for the Clippers, I wonder if that's something that 286 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:38,759 could work. Luke Knard for Rashaun Holmes doesn't make as much sense because I 287 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:42,359 liked the Sacramento King signing. I think they're like kind of an early winner, 288 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,920 or at least didn't do anything wrong during the start of free agency. 289 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,680 The two year deal from a league monk, just from pure shooting and scoring. 290 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,359 I think they need that type of a player alongside the more so all 291 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,319 dominant Thomas A. Bonus and Darn Fox, So I like that. Maybe 292 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,599 they would want Marcus Sports Senior. You can play him Barnes and King Murray 293 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,160 together. I think maybe it's you could definitely play two of them together. 294 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,880 I would say, which, you know, there's the wing depth. So 295 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,559 if that's sort of the basis of a deal, I wouldn't mind that. 296 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:17,119 Do you want Rashawn Holmes under contract for for a while? If if you 297 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,920 have Zobots under contract, you're paying the two of them combined sub twenty five 298 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,640 million? Food for thought there, and I think I'm I'm out of bigs 299 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:26,519 at the moment. Jaka Purdle, I just don't know what you're giving the 300 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,680 Spurs to get him. And of course there's Rudy Gobert if you're looking to 301 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,000 do that. But some free agent targets to consider might be like a Thomas 302 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,359 Bryant type guy, or, like I said, Georgie Jang, maybe in 303 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,160 the chat, Thomas Colin Sexton to the MAVs. It would have to be 304 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:48,119 a sign and trade. I don't know what Cleveland would want from Dallas, 305 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:55,880 and basier compensation would make that incredibly difficult, depending on what Sexton's new number 306 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,720 winds up at. And so you look at Dallas and I think you would 307 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:03,440 need Cleveland or really like I don't even know what they would need to really 308 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,759 like or you want to give a bullock in that deal, like just as 309 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,960 a wing. Maybe you are, but that's not going to be enough, 310 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,440 and you can't trade a first round pick to twenty twenty five. And I 311 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,839 don't know if I like the idea of moving a first round pick for Colin 312 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,079 Sexton. If I'm Dallas, I think they fucked up. But you do 313 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:25,839 have Spencer Dinwoody and Luca don Chich there can you get like can you either 314 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,319 like strike gold somewhere else or maybe there's a different type of trade. Maybe 315 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:33,559 you're relying on Tim Hardaway Junior for just a touch more creation next season. 316 00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:37,960 I like the idea of Colin Sexton and Dallas let me get that. Let 317 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,000 me make that clear. I just don't know if it's bullock salary. Like 318 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:44,880 ever, however, you're making this worse And then at twenty twenty five first 319 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,359 are you doing that? If you're Cleveland, Dallas, I don't know. 320 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,359 You might have a better shot right now at getting Carris Lavert on his expiring 321 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,200 contract working something out that way, But again, what is Cleveland could use 322 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,559 wings? And so if it's something sort of built around Bullock and fill do 323 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,319 they consider it. But Bullock is so so valuable to what Dallas does. 324 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,079 He and Dorian Phinny Smith both And if you're you know, if you're gonna 325 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,119 turn Brunson into a sign and trade, you're probably not getting like are you 326 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,759 trying to get Derek Rose from the Knicks at that point? Is that something 327 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:18,640 that you could still explore. I don't think the Knicks are gonna want to 328 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,480 help you when they own your twenty twenty three first round pick. That would 329 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:26,119 be something else to consider as well. Sexton would be a good fit in 330 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,200 Dallas, And I mean it's kind of interesting that like a contract wasn't announced 331 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,839 on his part because there's not like this huge market of cap space still, 332 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:37,960 so he and zach Lavine not being announced. That was interesting. And yeah, 333 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:42,279 speaking of my god, the Bulls, I don't have a problem with 334 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:49,079 any of the moves that they made, but like Gallo and Andre Drummond, 335 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:52,480 who was really good last year is a backup center mostly in Philly but in 336 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:56,839 Brooklyn had some moments as well. It's fine, the numbers they're at are 337 00:21:56,839 --> 00:22:00,839 fine, but like this is your move and then yeah, okay, you're 338 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:03,480 bringing back You're bringing back zach Lavine. So that's like, that's great, 339 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,720 that's awesome. We it hasn't been announced it, but we know what's going 340 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:11,759 to happen. But like those are the moves. So and Will gaunt Leave 341 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:18,680 had put this on Twitter that he estimates that with Gallo and with Gallo and 342 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,759 Andre Drummond, they're gonna come in at just under the non tax payamid level 343 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:26,079 exception. And they did it that way because it helps them like stay under 344 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,200 the tax in general. And look, I get it, well, like, 345 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:36,720 actually I don't get it. It's my point, and I just you 346 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:38,960 should want to spend on this team, is actually my point. And the 347 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,519 fact that you're not, what does that say that you make this all in 348 00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:47,960 trade for Vouch, you go after Demard Rose and expend assets for that. 349 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:49,920 You miss on the D I think you, I mean, you didn't draft 350 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,640 Tyrese Halibert and who a lot of people were clamoring for them to take. 351 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,519 But Patrick Williams is still sort of this mystery box. Cody kolbe White has 352 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:03,160 not panned out. And so now you'll or in this weird limbo to where 353 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:06,960 oh look, Kevin Durants on the trade market. But you can't come within 354 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,799 like a ninety foot poll of even fielding a reasonable offer for him, just 355 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:15,559 because the asset based you have in place isn't great. And I mean I 356 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:18,680 would assume most good. Patrick Williams is still intriguing, but like you don't 357 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,119 have all these you oh, you're twenty twenty five first already, so you 358 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,079 could move others, but like they're not going to be interesting compared to other 359 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:32,319 teams's best office just there's plenty of free agency left. These are reflective reactions 360 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,119 after day one. I just I don't I am find myself unimpressed, uninspired, 361 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,240 whichever move you want to use to describe the Bulls. And they still 362 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:47,319 have like so many needs, as in they need a I mean, let's 363 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,400 let's call Andre Grumman a backup rim protector, like that's that's fine, or 364 00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:55,319 rim protector all because Booch is not a rim protector. I just don't you 365 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,680 know, awesome, do you have more more defense, because I think you 366 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,200 need more of that for them. I think they could use like Andre dump 367 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,279 is not the best room protector, he's a great he's a great rebounder. 368 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:07,440 They could use another rom protector. You also have two of like the most 369 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,240 defensively limited fives at this point, and not that you were more versatile last 370 00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:15,960 year. There needs to be some more malleability and for their centers to move 371 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,279 versatility on the defensive end. So it's just I don't know, I and 372 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,119 you still kind of like I guess if Lonzo and Caruso are healthy of Iota 373 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,240 soon Moon, if Patrick Williams is healthy, you theoretically have enough wing defense. 374 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,400 I just really feel like the Bulls are in this blow direction all of 375 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,839 a sudden after starting the year so great. But maybe I'm just underestimating the 376 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,400 impact of a healthy Lonzo and Caruso and what this team could could look like 377 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,200 at full strength. But that's another deem that I would not be inspired by. 378 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:52,200 Let's get the more discord comments Lonnie Walker to the Lakers strops and said 379 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,640 that I thought getting him at the minimon level was a not a coup for 380 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,200 the Lakers, But I like the of making that swing. There are more 381 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:04,599 layers to his game that deserve exploration. Will Lakers let him plumb those? 382 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,480 If they're gonna monitor Russ's minutes, maybe we're get rid of Russ entirely. 383 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,839 Of Kyrie is there? Maybe not Lonnie Walker, j Lonni Walker, jure. 384 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,000 Lonnie Walker with the four can do a lot of shit with the ball 385 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:18,359 in his hands, and he's shown like stretches of good defense, never put 386 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,279 it together a ton and even the same thing with a shot selection is shot 387 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,160 making, even something's finishing around the basket. He can do a lot of 388 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,880 it. It's just never been a package that has come together all at once 389 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,519 and for a protracted period of time. I think this past season, to 390 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,400 close the year, after the trade deadline or whatever it was, that's the 391 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,359 closest he came to really figuring it all out. And so the Lakers could 392 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,079 be potentially getting a nice little signing there, and they lose Molikue Monk, 393 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,160 which hurts. I like the want to Sconno Anderson signing. I'm already scheduling 394 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,680 tweets calling for the Lakers to play him more. Damien Jones had some nice 395 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,440 offensive moments last year, and that's I guess. Look, it's an interesting 396 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:55,880 flyer, and it proves like you didn't go out there and spend your man 397 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,279 even level on another big making it think that you were going to try and 398 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:02,119 shoehorn them into lineup with Anthony Davis, so that's sort of fun. Troy 399 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Brown Junior, nice flyer. I can't remember who tweeted this, I'm sorry. 400 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:10,079 I think it was Alex Kennedy that Troy Brown Junior and Lonnie Walker the 401 00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:11,160 fourth or best friends or something and now on the same team. It's it 402 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,359 was Troy Brown Junior and someone whatever that's whatever it is. That was fucking 403 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,880 cool. They were fine, But I do I mentioned this before with the 404 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,000 Kings, I really like them picking up Molique Monk and that felt like just 405 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:22,000 a even if you want to call it a home run signing, it's a 406 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:27,480 very sensible sign signing Tim mick C twenty two. Anyone else wants to see 407 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,079 OKAYC throw five first in for Durant then use their other thirteen future draft picks 408 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:37,160 to turn their bolster into a contender. I'll laugh if that happened. I 409 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,759 don't know what the Thunders pathway is to doing that, just because the only 410 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:48,000 reasonable salary matching tool they have in any Kevin Durant trade is Shay Gilders Alexander, 411 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:49,599 and I don't want to see them trade Jay Guilders Alexander. Presumably he 412 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480 would be part of the reason that Kevin Durant wants to complay there in the 413 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,119 first place. And just for anyone who doesn't know or is wondering, as 414 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,839 of tonight day, no longer have cap space. I won their cap space 415 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,960 from last season. It's gone, it's over with, it's could put. 416 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,799 They're operating as and over on the cap team. So no, I don't 417 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:11,279 actually view them as this realistic Kevin Durant destination, although I find it absolutely 418 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,440 hysterical that that would be on the table. There any other teams that sort 419 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:22,119 of stand out to me at this point, Washington has a lot of guards 420 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:26,119 on the roster. All of a sudden, they sign de lawn Wright to 421 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,799 a two year deal basically at the at the mid level or really really around 422 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,319 there. At this point, I'm fine with that. But now you have 423 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,039 so, you have de lawn Right, you have Monte Morris, you have 424 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,599 will Barton. Bradley Beale's back on his max extension. We knew that was 425 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,319 going to happen, and Zach Low made this point in ESPN. I think 426 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:48,039 it was a good one. Also, Anthony gil bringing him back probably just 427 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,079 smart when you're looking at the makeup of their roster. They've been pretty smart 428 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,559 with sort of balancing out their roster the past two seasons. I'll say post 429 00:27:56,599 --> 00:28:00,319 Russell Westbrook trade is the best way to phrase it. There. So made 430 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:02,319 a great point that we need to frame this as, Look, it's a 431 00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:04,640 win for badleybial he wants to be in Washington and the five year, quarter 432 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,079 billion dollars deal good good for him, and he might still get moved on 433 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,839 it if things work out in Washington. And I said this on another podcast, 434 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,039 I think the Wizards are way more flexible than people give him credit for 435 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,599 just looking at some of the No, there's no co stars there. There's 436 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,519 probably limited upside depending on how you feel about Christaps Porzingia. I think Denny 437 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,200 Abdi is actually the hight upside player on this roster. Love him and would 438 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,759 like to see him get more ball handling responsibility. Doesn't seem like it's gonna 439 00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:33,839 go that way with Barton Morris and now Delan right there. But they have 440 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,119 some defense, they have some offense, some extra ball handling that's what they 441 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,839 needed, and we need to frame this as the Wizards did miss the boat. 442 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,640 This is Zach Low saying this on Trading Bradley Beal when his value was 443 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:47,680 at an all time high. That is, I can't. I'm gonna put 444 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,759 this on the thing to see if one round left is are you actually applauding 445 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:55,200 the Utah Jazz here one round left? I'm just curious. I'm not gonna 446 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,759 troll you or anything. I'm just just very curious. I back to the 447 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:03,039 win. So, yeah, they could have peelsa down season next year. 448 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:06,720 They're taking a risk here. Good for Bradley Beal, and he wants it 449 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,519 if he wants to stay with the Wizards. He's willing to stay with the 450 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:11,559 Wizards through what's a non contender, But they're trying to build themselves up. 451 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:12,640 I haven't wish it with that for him. It's the Wizards. If I 452 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,359 were them, I probably would have moved him already, but I'm not in 453 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,920 charge of an NBA team. Probably for certain reasons, I would have blown 454 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,240 up a lot of different situations. I like the moves that they made on 455 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:25,920 their face, though I think there probably needs to be just like some reshuffling 456 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,680 at some point, especially when you're looking at how many expiring or short term 457 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,680 contracts they have. But that also keeps them fluid and flexible. I would 458 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,039 not if you've forced me to choose, I do not think the lawn right. 459 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,480 Monty Morris and Will Barton and Kyle Kuzma all finished this season on this 460 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:45,240 team. If if I was really if you cared what I thought there and 461 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,839 was forced to choose Vidraldipa went back to Miami on a one year, eleven 462 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,359 million dollars deal. That was fine. Speaking of the heat, they are 463 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,039 going to be linked to the Kevin Durant sweepstakes. But we have to mention 464 00:29:55,079 --> 00:30:00,359 the Sixers now who signed PJ. Tucker to a three year and I have 465 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,759 not seen any reporting on like what the guarantees are with this, but they 466 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,119 sign him to a three year, thirty three point three million dollars deal, 467 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:14,279 I would imagine that there has to be some like loose guarantees on the back 468 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,440 end of that. It's everything I've seen is that it's not seen, but 469 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,480 it has not been reported that I've seen as partially guaranteed or anything. It's 470 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:23,599 a lot to pay PJ. Tucker over the next three years, but he's 471 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,039 a great addition of Philly can place him backup five also, just alongside Joel 472 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:32,559 Embiid Daniel House at the bi annual exception. He closed the year strong with 473 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,119 Utah. That's a loss for Utah. By the way, they didn't just 474 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:40,119 lose Royce O'Neil today. They lost Royce O'Neil and Daniel House. They're two 475 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,200 most important for their defenders. That is just it's not great, and I 476 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,079 just I'm curious is to know what direction they're headed in now. Also, 477 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:52,279 what Philly, What Philly did? Excuse me? They let DeAndre Jordan go 478 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,640 to Denver, so shout out to them. Actually, we should talk about 479 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,960 that with the Nuggets really quickly. We'll get to that next. But James 480 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,920 Harness the other story, the reports where that he's not going to broker his 481 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920 contract with them until the weekend. Maybe they're just trying to see how much 482 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,240 much of a pay cut they need him to take, and they still have 483 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,039 salary dumps that they could make to alleviate how much that is. Unless you're 484 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:14,720 moving to Bias Harris at this point and shaving a boatload, he's probably looking 485 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:18,119 at Jake Fisher had said thirty four to thirty five million per year. This 486 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,079 was Wednesday night. I think Mark Steynet said around the thirty million dollars per 487 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,119 year mark. That's a huge pay cut. By the way, I'm not 488 00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:27,000 James hark got a forty seven point four million dollars player off. If he 489 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:30,559 signed for like thirty million dollars, thirty three million dollars whatever, that's a 490 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,839 huge pay cut. And talk about in about face. He all of a 491 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,839 sudden probably becomes a universal protagonist. I'm not saying players need to take pay 492 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,400 cuts. I'm never advocating for that. If that's what he wanted to do, 493 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,000 go go go for him, like, good for him. But James 494 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,359 Harne is in shape per the reports. I know it's the off season, 495 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,519 but he's working out harder and sooner than he normally does over the off season. 496 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,839 That's a w He's going to take a massive pay cut. And he 497 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,519 still ran away from Kyrie Irving and the Nets before they completely combusted. James 498 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:04,680 Harden universal protagonist all of a sudden. No matter how you feel about James 499 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,039 Hardon, just super super smart. And I'm reiterating the comments in the chat 500 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:10,880 for the people who are listening to this as a podcast. Strop says, 501 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,960 Darryl is turning us into the eighteen nineteen Rockets, and I don't hate it. 502 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:16,839 Yes, I don't think that was the team. Was that the team 503 00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:21,119 at miss twenty seven straight threes? Though? No, that wasn't or was 504 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,079 it? But they need to complete it. By the way, we need 505 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,119 to get Luke bab Mute in there. Where's Trevor Rees's camp deal. I 506 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:30,640 don't know if Ryan Arison was on that team two or started the year on 507 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,680 that team or whatever. They and they were reportedly in the mix for Eric 508 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,279 Gordon. If there's compensation they can give up to where the Rockets are sending 509 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,519 out Eric Gordon somebody else for to Bias and maybe the Sixers are saving enough 510 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:44,960 money to where it minimizes James Hardon's pay cut. All I'm saying is if 511 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,799 James harden is in shape and takes like a ten to fifteen million dollars pay 512 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:53,440 cut, Jesus Christ, I just you know, wow, that would just 513 00:32:53,480 --> 00:33:00,799 totally shock me. So the Sixers had a I don't know, bucket row 514 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,160 holiday bring back NNA. Yeah, you gotta do it, and you have 515 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440 to do it on an illegal contract at first that you then revise later. 516 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,240 So that has to be the order of operations here. I don't look. 517 00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,920 I love PJ. Tucker. Next year, specifically that Neil is going to 518 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,079 have some risk attached to it. At the tail on their off season doesn't 519 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:24,720 feel like it's done though, we do probably need to talk excuse me, 520 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,680 we do need to talk about the Nuggets there. I went over the trade 521 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,559 for KCP and Ish Smith in a previous podcast. To go check that out. 522 00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:37,319 It's on YouTube, it's in our podcast feed. But finding DeAndre Jordan 523 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,599 is like kind of a red flag here for me, and it shows like 524 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,440 right now they're still below the apron they still have and they extended Nikoleokich. 525 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,119 Good for them, they paid him. They've never necessarily skimped on players, 526 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,240 just basketball exacts. But between dumping Jamichael Green and they did add a first 527 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:53,680 round pick as part of that, but they also dumped one down the future 528 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,640 and it was the number thirty pick. But you dumped ja Michael Green and 529 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,319 the Monte Morris Will Barton deal works because Bones high Land emerged and you are 530 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,759 banking on I'm not a huge fan of Ish Schmith, Like, if you 531 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:06,680 want someone to get up and run, there's that's fine for them to use. 532 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,480 But it works because you're banking on Murray and Porter Junior being healthy. 533 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:14,840 And then just also having Bones Highland step into a bigger role. It's not 534 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:16,480 like, oh, they got a lot better. I think KCP is the 535 00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:21,480 best defender in that entire trade by a wide margin. And now he's gonna 536 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,039 limit the time Aaron Gordon needs to spend at the point of attack. And 537 00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:27,599 I also I will point out signing age thirty four year old DeAndre Joran's not 538 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,679 like some ghastly move because you have Nicole Yokich on this roster. Maybe you 539 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,719 trust Zignagi to play some more five. Maybe you would prefer to downsize with 540 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,480 Jeff Green there when Yokich isn't on the court. And we're talking about a 541 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:45,039 span off between on any given night twelve to like seventeen minutes tops where you're 542 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,559 working without Nicole Yokich on the court. So that's fine. It's you have 543 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,840 these other tools at your disposal you can use to get better. You haven't 544 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,840 used yet. I'm not saying they needed to be used on day one, 545 00:34:54,159 --> 00:35:00,679 But you have the ny MLI and you also have the Jamichael Green trade exception, 546 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,119 which is I don't have my trade exceptions pulled up right now. I 547 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:06,039 should have, but that's in the eights. I believe will we see them 548 00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:09,960 use this to get the team better or is this going to be? Is 549 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,159 this going to be what they do? They signed DeAndre Jordan, I still 550 00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:15,280 think you might have been able to do better than DeAndre jordan Is? Is 551 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,440 this sound whiteside? Not better than DeAndre jordan Is? Just like I don't 552 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,639 like. I'm just he looked cooked. What's going on is knock Beimbo? 553 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,119 Does he have a better offer from Phoenix? He would have even made some 554 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,000 some more sense there. And what's going on with Boogie? Like did he 555 00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,079 have a bigger market that you didn't bring him back? When Michael Malone is 556 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:35,400 there. I'm the Nuggets are still really good and I think they should be 557 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,880 a dark horse Kevin Durant destination. If I want to be like basketball hipster 558 00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:44,880 here, I would throw Highland Murray MPJ and then they are very limited in 559 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,119 what picks they could throw out there in the future. But every pick possible, 560 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:52,280 which I think at this point is twenty twenty nine pick. Yes, 561 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,039 it is only a twenty twenty nine pick. I would just see, like 562 00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,280 if if that's something Brooklyn mikes or is there three and four teen framework where 563 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:05,000 other teams want the players. In the chat, we have mc vide saying 564 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,400 Memphis nes to trade for Durant. I would love that fit as well. 565 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,440 Who are you trading for Durant? Though Jarret Jackson Junior was injured, I 566 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,960 will be out four to six months. I don't think they move them anyway. 567 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,000 Your is your offer, just Desmond Baine, Zayer Williams. You can 568 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:21,039 have any of the rookies that they just drafted, whether it's David Roddy or 569 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,079 Jake la Ravia. So those four guys specifically, even Brandon Clark. You 570 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:30,159 have Steven Adams to help you with salary matching. Even Dylan Brooks if if 571 00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:31,639 Brooklyn wants him. So what you're essentially saying, let me get through this 572 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:38,360 any player on Memphis roster, any combination of players except for John Morant who 573 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,639 was extended anyway, and now Jaron Jackson Junior, and then just as many 574 00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,239 picks as it takes, is that you know. And I think Desmond Baine 575 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,599 and all your rooms would definitely be part of that deal. I'd probably do 576 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:50,360 if i'm mc grizzlies. But I'm just curious as to whether the nets would 577 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,639 view that as an adequate haul. We're an unprecedented four picks Brooks and Adams. 578 00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:01,559 I don't all four picks meaning the past two rookies mcfeedy or just four 579 00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:05,320 picks in general plus Brooks and Adams. Either way, I don't think it 580 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,599 gets it. You're not getting that deal done without including I'll I know, 581 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:13,559 I won't say that. I'd be floored, bordering on flabbergasted if the Grizzlies 582 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,960 traded for Kevin Durant and it didn't cost them Desmond bane and or Zayer Williams 583 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,440 in addition to a ship ton of of draft picks, though, so a 584 00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:23,320 fun Kevin Durant's nation for sure, though we did get into those on the 585 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,239 previous pods. Or check our YouTube feed or our podcast feed if you're if 586 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,400 you're feeling a little spunky there So Denver, I'm just still hot, like 587 00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:37,039 they have Yokich Aaron Gordon. If they're gonna be healthy, you still can 588 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,199 and should be high on them. I just remain skeptical if this is they're 589 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,039 gonna be stingy before they just continue to get expensive. I'm just it's not 590 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,400 that I'm not I'm not down on them. We need to see the rest 591 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,239 of the off season. But I this is a referendum on how committed they 592 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,800 are to really going for it. To me, when you're looking at the 593 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,559 trade exception the mini mL and you can use them throughout the season, I 594 00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:01,159 would you the mini mL E is never really gonna help you in the middle 595 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:05,559 of the year. The Bulls are probably kicking themselves or part like the PI 596 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,000 annual on Tristan Thompson's that they can't do that. Use it now this summer 597 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,639 anyway. Digressing they are shitting all over the Bulls for no reason or I 598 00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,159 feel like that was a justified reason. AnyWho. The Nuggets with that, 599 00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:19,840 I'd like to see them use the mini emily based on certain players that are 600 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,000 still going to be out there or they have through the middle of the season. 601 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:27,559 They can use that traded player exception. That thing doesn't expire for roughly 602 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:31,039 forever. Based on how late that they traded Jamichael Green, any other teams 603 00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:34,159 to talk about. If anyone's really in the chat and wants to get to 604 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:36,840 them, I feel like we hit really all the biggies. I'll look at 605 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:43,239 some of these different signings really quick. That that went through just a lot. 606 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,920 There's a lot more action at the beginning, and then it's worth tapered 607 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,039 off. Oh Anthony Simon, Oh yeah, two, I wanted to hit 608 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,159 upon for sure. Actually three teams. Now here we go really quickly. 609 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,480 Anthony Simon's back to Portland four years, one hundred million dollars. Looks like 610 00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,280 it might be all guaranteed. Maybe there's a player option at the end. 611 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,440 I'm fine his off the dribble shop making, and I think he improved as 612 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:07,599 a passing decision maker even if he's not making. It's Alex That's exactly who 613 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:13,320 I was thinking of. But we'll get to them after the Blazers very quickly. 614 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,199 Thank you for reminding me, though, because this was one of my 615 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,719 favorite sign. I's gonna put it up on the screen. Holy shit, 616 00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,840 but Portland really quick. I wasn't prepared to love their off season as much 617 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,119 as I do. Gary Payton is second, possibly going to Portland for like 618 00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:29,880 eight million dollars a year, which would be most of the non tax player 619 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,559 of mid level exception. That'd be a very weird number to be left over 620 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239 unless there's a player that you're going to use with the rest of it. 621 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,199 Is it a little under eight and it just averages out to eight. Who 622 00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:43,639 knows, but they should still have the bi annual as well. That's a 623 00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:45,599 team that can do things. I like, I'm okay with a Sigmon's contract, 624 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:51,239 and it's just different because he gives you just more pop than a CJ. 625 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,639 McCullum, not as he's like Norman Powell and CJ. McCullum, certain 626 00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:57,719 elements of them blended into one and then a worst passer I would say at 627 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,039 this stage than CJ. McCullum. But his off the dribble shop making is 628 00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:06,480 just more polarizing, and I think a good, good way. And then 629 00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:09,119 they've they've already gotten Jeremy Grant the shade and sharp. They're they're kind of 630 00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:14,000 flexible. Eric Bletzo is still on the books. They have until let me 631 00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,000 double check this here, four days after. Oh, they have plenty of 632 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:20,119 time. So he's three point Eric Bletso I'm all over the place right now, 633 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,280 nineteen point four million dollars salary, three point nine of which is currently 634 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,199 guaranteed. They have the option of guaranteeing that, sort of using him as 635 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,760 this walking trade exception. I predicted they would do something exactly like that. 636 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,639 I just thought it was going to be resigning Joe Ingles, who is now 637 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,559 Milwaukee Again. We'll get to that. So I would look for them to 638 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:39,440 maybe do that if they wanted to make some sort of a trade. Otherwise, 639 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,079 at this point, it's housekeeping. You guarantee Josh Hart's deal, you 640 00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:45,599 bring back use of Nourich. Everyone expects that. I think I saw a 641 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,400 report that was gonna between fifteen and seventeen million a year, even though there's 642 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760 been no agreement yet, so we'll have to wait and see on that. 643 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,719 But I like what the Blazers are doing. And while they would be under 644 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,159 size, if they went like like, they wouldn't even be under size. 645 00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:01,679 But you could play pay Simons and Lillard together like Peyton has that type of 646 00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:06,239 defensive versatility, and I would do this. I can already hear. We 647 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,760 have a take podcast terribone based rolling your eyes at me saying there needs to 648 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,079 be a small ball lineup of Grant Heart, Gary Payton a second, if 649 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,119 he's there, Anthony Simons, and Damian Lillard. I need to see it. 650 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,679 She probably just vomited a little bit. She's not even listening to this, 651 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,679 but she's she's definitely gonna like her ears must be must be melting or 652 00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:28,800 something off. As I'm saying this. Beyond that, the Bucks, they 653 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,199 did some stuff, and a lot of the stuff I liked. Bring back 654 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:37,360 West Matthews huge, huge for them in the playoffs last year. Two huge 655 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:43,760 we didn't get to eat and yet Paul we can though huge for for Milwaukee. 656 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,800 I would argue too huge. We have this conversation in the podcasts, 657 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,559 like the responsibility he was shouldering was unfair. Chris Middleton's healthy, that's different. 658 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:52,119 Javon Carter played a nice role for them. He was better than George 659 00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,119 Hill. And like I said, look, if Alex is here, I 660 00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,719 don't know if you've been here the whole time. I proposed the Brook Lopez 661 00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:00,960 and George Hill, Marcus Morris Senior, and I want to know what you 662 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,039 think about that. I didn't hear from the one Clippers fan that I knew 663 00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:07,360 was in here previously, So anyone let me know they feel about that trade 664 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:13,400 proposal. So I like bringing back to Javon Carter and Wesley Matthews. I 665 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,960 am love the Ingles signing. Who knows when he's ready. The Bucks are 666 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,679 like they're gonna be fine in the regular season, no matter what they could 667 00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:22,199 have done. Nothing. Let Bobby Porters go and you have you, honest, 668 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,840 and Chris Middleton and Ju Holiday, if they're healthy, they're fine. 669 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,440 I'm still waiting for a Pat Connaton extension, by the way, because he 670 00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,760 absolutely positively would have gotten more than five and change in this market. I 671 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,400 think he would have gotten the fullman level. So I'm expecting him to get 672 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,440 a four year extension that averages out to like sixty plus million over those four 673 00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,760 years for a total of maybe like seventy million. I'm just I'm hot, 674 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,239 like math in my head right now based off what they could offer him the 675 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,599 max of what they could offer him over five years, and that's clearly greater 676 00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:54,719 than the net sum that they can that they could have gotten. So I 677 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,800 liked all those I don't know how to feel about the Bobby Porters steal. 678 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,840 I just I guess four and fifty. Basically for him, that's fine. 679 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,800 He does bring like there's an element to him that's super important to this team, 680 00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:13,280 and especially as Brook Lopez continues to age and you don't want to get 681 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,800 to the downsize E Jhannest lineups. And also when you do like Bobby Portis 682 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,840 is a part of that. You're not necessarily downsizing so much as it's Portis 683 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,679 and Jannis in your front court. Then you downsize if you have PJ. 684 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,000 Tucker, which they do not anymore. It's just a lot, Like it's 685 00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:30,320 just a lot for someone when I think is better as a switch defender than 686 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,719 he gets credit for. But I think both that and his defense overall can 687 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,280 be more of a problem in the playoffs. That being said, and yeah, 688 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,960 Alex, I would agree with you that they put back up Biggs or 689 00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,760 like, you know, unless they're unless they're Bobby Portis. Look, here's 690 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,559 my thing. You don't give multi You wouldn't give multi years to PJ. 691 00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:52,840 Tucker, but let's go give multi years to Javan McGee. I didn't understand 692 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,440 that Buck's interest in him. Dallas ended up giving him a deal that I 693 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,000 don't understand either. So, yeah, if you move Brooke, you need 694 00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:02,360 another center. But uh, there are there are cheap They're They're always going 695 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,039 to be cheap centers on the market. It's they're not None of them are 696 00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:09,800 gonna be Brook Lopez defensively or even offensively. But Bigg's you know, Bismack 697 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,760 Biyombo still hasn't been signed. You could consider bringing back Sir Debacca. I 698 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,559 don't you know, was not great. What does Thomas Bryant go for? 699 00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,639 Do you have a reunion with Robin Lopez after you trade his brother? He 700 00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:24,280 would actually probably love that. Dwight Howard, Gorgie Jang. I don't like 701 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,679 any of these centers more than the idea of Brook Lopez, but Marcus Moore 702 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,079 Senior I feel like would be a great fit for this roster. So I 703 00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,000 don't have a problem with Milwaukee that I mostly like it. The Bobby Porters 704 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,440 contract is just one I'm gonna be montering and maybe I'm too low on him. 705 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,719 Deadman is already going back to Miami Paul in the chat, but yes, 706 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,360 he actually would have been spectacular for them as well. So the Ingles 707 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,159 though specifically that is just a perfect signing his secondary playmaking, and they're the 708 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,079 Bucks can tread water until he comes back and he is. Look, he 709 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:58,800 was all over the place this season, but he is one of the best 710 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,559 shooters in the league. Like over the past six years, whatever it's been, 711 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:05,159 he's been one of the most accurate three point shooters. He can dribble 712 00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,400 in to some of them. He gives you the tertiary pick and role playmaking 713 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,480 if you want. You could see him envisioning running two man game with Jannis 714 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,400 if you really needed to, depending on the lineup structure that's out there. 715 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,360 Loved the Joe Ingles signing. It is just absolutely perfect. I don't think 716 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,159 he's like, you're not gonna play him Middleton, Drew Jannis and then another 717 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,360 small like let's say Content or Wesley Matthews in that slot. Not something I 718 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,400 would necessarily try too often. But the Angles signing just a home run there. 719 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,679 And I love that it was announced by Renee Angles. I thought that 720 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,199 was I thought that was pretty fucking cool too. Okay, see, I 721 00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:39,000 wanted to talk about it. I can't believe we weren't closer to the top. 722 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:44,480 This wasn't closer to the top. Lu Dort comes back on a five 723 00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:49,679 year, eighty seven point five million dollar deal. I'm fine with it. 724 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960 Seventeen point five million on average. And now, unless there are options we 725 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,719 don't know about or non guarantees, you have him in Shay just locked up 726 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,400 for the next five years, and then you have Chet home Grin. We 727 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,480 know they also have used Usman Gang excuse me. They have both Jail and 728 00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:10,239 Williams. Is so like they are built to do so many different things at 729 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,480 this point, like be big defensively and long defensively. They still have some 730 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:17,480 other just like intriguing flyers, like what is Darius Basilely on offense? You're 731 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,039 still trying to figure out. But he can be moved around defensively. Jeremiah 732 00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:23,079 Robinson are always intriguing. Last year, I remained low around Josh Giddy. 733 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:29,039 Then the consensus Aaron Wiggins, the rim pressure he provides. So they just 734 00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:30,480 have a bunch of flyers. They need to consolidate the roster a little bit, 735 00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:34,039 like legally, because they have just too many roster spots taken up. 736 00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,559 I think for the defense that lu Dort provides, and he's gonna give you 737 00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:42,480 some really just hard nosed rim pressure. Polk who he's like, yeah, 738 00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:44,639 look, one of my favorite members of that team, who I think is 739 00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,679 going to be really good. I was sold all the way on him after 740 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,440 last season. So Polke, who is gonna be absolutely great? Thanks for 741 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,639 reminding me on that, Paul. I do believe that Dort is closer to 742 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,199 market value here than an overpay. You also have to take in that like 743 00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,599 he was on what had become known as the Sam Hainky Special, basically where 744 00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:05,920 his price tag, which is so repressed based off how he came into the 745 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000 league, latched on signs that longer term deal. I was almost surprised the 746 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:14,239 Thunder went to decline the team option route the way that the Rockets did with 747 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,079 Tate. And we can talk about that for sure. Yeah, Poku chat, 748 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:17,960 let's go, Paul. Yeah, I want to see that front court 749 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,760 and let's make sure that Shay is on the floor as well for that. 750 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,280 But I think it's fine, Like, yeah, you wanted him to shoot 751 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,639 better on threes, but he still takes threes. And again, like there's 752 00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:31,639 some just like put the ball on the floor and just get like barrel through 753 00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:36,119 the defense type style from him, and just based off the defensive value he 754 00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:37,599 provides to you. And you know that it scales at this point to a 755 00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:42,320 playoff setting, I'm totally okay with it. And look, based off your 756 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,440 timeline, like it's gonna be two or three years before this really becomes a 757 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,440 problem. You're either gonna be looking at paying some of the other guys you 758 00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:51,840 just drafted or trying to acquire bigger names, and at that point, if 759 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,760 the deal doesn't necessarily pan out, there's it's short enough left or a little 760 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,400 bit enough of it left where it's not that much of a problem to me. 761 00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,599 So I don't have an issue with it. If anything, I'm happy 762 00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:02,840 that And they might have been paying like the Hey, this dude was underpaid 763 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,559 for so long, Like we're paying a little bit of a tax here. 764 00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:09,280 That's fine as well. The Rockets also did that with Jay Shawn Tate much 765 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,280 a much smaller deal, mind you, three years, twenty two million. 766 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,920 Another guy you wish could shoot the ball a little bit better, but he 767 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,320 gives you some He has more directionality than off the dribble, and it's not 768 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,880 as much just like pulling a China shop stuff. But his defense is huge 769 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,519 for them, and he is probably, you know, just based off their 770 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:31,920 roster, like he's gonna be of the non point guard guys, he's one 771 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,239 of the better. Just put the ball in his hands, not create from 772 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,239 scratch, but just trust him with it. I like that too. I 773 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,519 think it's fine. And you're at a point early in your development where this 774 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:44,320 contract doesn't hamstring you, like you're probably not gonna be good at or trying 775 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,239 to be very good at any point over the next three years. Certainly not 776 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,840 next year, and probably not the year after, and by that point it's 777 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,679 in expiring deal. It's also a number that if you need to start matching 778 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,760 and step laddering salary to make a bigger acquisition, you're going to be perfectly 779 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,960 fine there. So another deal I don't have an issue with. There was 780 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,880 much. I had an issue within day one. I think one of the 781 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:07,840 only things we didn't really touch on was what the the Raptors did. Excuse 782 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,760 me, so I thought we were gonna get maybe a Fred van Fleet announcement. 783 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,639 I know Pascal Siakam wasn't eligible until October anyway, so that wasn't if 784 00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:19,800 there was going to be an extension, that wasn't necessarily going to be a 785 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,920 thing anyway. You bring back that he is young, two year, sixteen 786 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,239 million, fine, Chris Bouchet getting the bag. We love Chris Bouchet around 787 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,760 these parts. Three years, thirty five point three, that's fine. I 788 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,800 also don't think the Raptors need to get a big and I think a lot 789 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,039 of people will just argue that the reason they don't need a big Raptors fans, 790 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,840 excuse me, argue they don't need a big because when you look at 791 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,559 their roster, who who is just all on it right now? Can we 792 00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:46,599 can we name him? His name is escaping me at the moment, and 793 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:50,559 for some reason, like I can't really figure it out. Oh my god, 794 00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,119 why am I blanking on this Raptor guy's name? Someone in the chat 795 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,199 tell me I don't know why. He is slipping in my mind right now. 796 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,039 This is an all time live bringing fart draft number thirty three. My 797 00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:05,599 death chart won't load. Someone come, someone comes, save me here. 798 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,480 This is just this is just terrible live podcasting. Anyway. I didn't think 799 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,840 the Raptors needed a big to begin with. Their fan base is incredibly high 800 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,840 on Christian Coloco. Oh my god, I feel like a fucking idiot. 801 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,559 I'm tired, it's late. Please forgive me just between Bouche, the minutes 802 00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,920 that you could use with Daddy is young. At the five you have Pascal 803 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,280 Siakam as well in Precious to Chewa, not to mention Ken Birch, the 804 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:29,920 big man stuff. Yeah, Strops, where were you like five seconds ago? 805 00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:32,719 Not Birch though he was down year Burch wasn't that good. But I 806 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,760 liked the Birch but thank you, Strap's coming in. Maybe there's a delay 807 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,360 a little bit late since I'm getting those things. I liked the Chris Bouche 808 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,480 deal because I love Chris Bouchet, and I think that Daddy is young is 809 00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,719 fine. I also believe what's important. I don't like viewing contracts in these 810 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,159 terms, but Toronto specifically, like your best salary matching tools were all of 811 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,639 what you would consider your core players, Pascal Siakam, Fred vanfleet O, 812 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,440 Gianna Nobi. If you want to Luke, Garret Trent Junior in there, 813 00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:00,920 now you have some of these mid end salaries going into next season that aren't 814 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,320 Scotty Barns like a Cruche and addition to Kenberg and Baddish Young. If you 815 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,599 want to make a move, you can step ladder with those contracts. So 816 00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:12,599 I don't have an issue with that. I believe we like went through everything 817 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,800 here, though I don't know what signings. We talked about the Clippers. 818 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,639 We talked about the Magic and Bomba. I watched poetic about Coffee. The 819 00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:22,360 Victor Ladipo deal was fine. We went way to in depth on the Bulls 820 00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:25,960 Detroit. I liked the flyer on Kevin Knox that was that was a good 821 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,320 one. I still think that he just I'm not saying he necessarily deserved playing 822 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,559 time, but like the Knicks specifically, we're in a situation to give him 823 00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:37,440 more a longer rope, and the fact that they didn't is just like, 824 00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:43,039 oh, okay, uh why, But that is an interesting flyer from them. 825 00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,280 I don't think I missed any other deal. I think we covered every 826 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,320 single deal in this podcast, right down to what we will now Devon Reid 827 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,320 resigning with the Nuggets two years, four point one million dollars, and I 828 00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:00,079 have the guilt to Washington traveling Queen goes to goes to Philly from Houston. 829 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,760 Okay, yeah, we hit it all, so we have to watch out 830 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,639 with the Kevin Durant sweepstakes, I'm still puzzled by what they're doing keeping Nicks 831 00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:13,679 Claxton. We did talk about it that at the top. Alex I did 832 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:19,039 not like the Marvin Bagley deal. Just to reiterate, fully guaranteed for at 833 00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:22,320 thirty seven millions for both sides. And you have Jalen Duran, Kelly Olenick, 834 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,320 now Neurland's Noel I guess what is this? And I wouldn't play Marvin 835 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,400 Backley the third heavy minutes of the four. I want to make that clear. 836 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,159 I guess what you're saving? Grace is here, Kelly Olenicks expiring, 837 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,960 Nolan's Nowell's essentially expiring. Are one of those dudes going to be traded or 838 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,760 both of them? Anyway? I can't forget about Beef stew either, So 839 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,079 it was a curious move. But Marvin Bagley was a great partner, great 840 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,519 with Kate Cunningham at Etts with the Pistons last year. So no, just 841 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,639 massive problem with that. We now wait for what's going on in Brooklyn. 842 00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:53,440 I liked it. They kept Nick Claxton. We talked about this already. 843 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:59,599 The nets though, were just they're they're gonna implode. So we'll wait on 844 00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:01,679 that. Maybe I'll do another podcast on day two of free agency at some 845 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,800 point. Thank you for everyone who came through. Thank you everyone for listening. 846 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,360 I really do, truly. I try not to look at the numbers 847 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,199 because I know that we're a smaller community when it comes to league wide podcast. 848 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,239 But I know that localized coverage really important, so I enjoy that you 849 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,519 come talk lead wide coverage with me. Appreciate every single one of you, 850 00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:20,960 whether you're listening on YouTube just via your podcast player, this is your first 851 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,360 time listening and made it all the way here. Please consider throwing us that 852 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,239 permanent subscription on YouTube and with your podcast. Tell people about us, help 853 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,480 us promote ourselves and build up the community. You all are awesome. Join 854 00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:37,760 our discord, the links to which is both in the podcast description and YouTube. 855 00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:39,760 With that, I'll leave you with the shout out too, as always, 856 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,039 the one, the only, the indelible, Frank Neil a qu