1 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,120 What is up, Fellows Thermonuclear A Efforts. I am Damba Valley coming at 2 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,000 you with the third part of our three part mailbags that I felt like get 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,440 dragged on forever. We're kind of in a good way because I had so 4 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:30,120 many questions and I committed to answering all of them, and so we're gonna 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,280 get what was left or some of the last minute ones, the stragglers that 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,600 came through, get them out and answered in this episode. First though, 7 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,320 please remember to subscribe to this podcast wherever you are consuming it. If you're 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,960 watching us on YouTube, hit that subscribe button, like comment. All those 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,159 things help us out a ton, and it would mean very much to me. 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,719 You hit subscribe. If this is the first time listening to us on 11 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:54,119 the podcast player, Spotify, Google, Apple, what Stitch or wherever, 12 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:57,560 hit that permit subscription button. Download over your episode. If you've done all 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,799 those things already. Ratings and reviews help a ton. On whatever podcast player 14 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:04,280 you have access to, Apples especially, but as well as Spotify and word 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,319 of mouth. Help retweet our promos, tell people about us, tag us 16 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:14,799 in those solicitations for podcast recommendations. Anything you can do to help me continue 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,439 to grow what is an awesome community, and finally, but not least importantly, 18 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,760 join our discord. The link to that is in the podcast description as 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,079 well as the YouTube description, and the social handles are in the podcast and 20 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,760 YouTube descriptions as well. With all of that out of the way, let's 21 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,200 dive right into this. I'm taking a chance and recording this like in the 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,920 morning of US Sunday, so that I can get a bunch of other shit 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,719 done. And since we have so many you know, it's a Donovan. 24 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:42,760 It's three questions and they're related to Donovan Mitchell, the Jazz and also Kevin 25 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,879 Durant, So talk about questions that could technically blow up. They come from 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,920 Robert Fletcher, who is nice enough to email them. Shout out Robert. 27 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:52,920 First question, do you think the fact that the All Star Game is in 28 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,680 SLC next year is playing any role in the Mitchell trade discussions? I would 29 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,480 say no, just because at this point you've already traded Rudy Gobert, and 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,640 by doing that, you've kind of ensured that there's going to be a deviation 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,639 of national focus on you. And I think part of being an All Star 32 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:16,680 is capturing the attention of the voters, and I just don't think this wouldn't 33 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:21,759 be an insult if Donovan Mitchell played at an All Star caliber level. He's 34 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:23,800 perfectly capable of doing that. We've seen it already. Would enough people be 35 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,120 watching the Jazz to say that, or are they going to go the route 36 00:02:27,159 --> 00:02:30,199 of, well, what if the thunder have a better record? For instance, 37 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,360 che gelis Alexander's contributing to more winning, or you know, Steph Curry 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,280 and Damian Lillard a contributing to more winning. The other thing that I think 39 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:40,280 you can't factor in here is that Donov Mitchell is guaranteed to be an All 40 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Star even if we let's just assume that enough people are watching the Jazz that 41 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,919 the voters aren't gonna stigmatize Utah probably not being good or all that great at 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,479 the very least right now their roster or at most, I should say it's 43 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,520 like a playing team. At best, they're not They're certainly not a title 44 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,319 contender. Can you guarantee that Mitchell, just even if everything's fair, is 45 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,120 going to make the All Star Game over just the smattering of other guards in 46 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:07,039 the Western Conference. When you look at Luca Nanche it's qualifying as a point 47 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:10,080 guard? Will people be allowed to vote Lebron James in there as a point 48 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,240 guard this year? There's also then Steph Curry, Damian Lillard, Jay Gilders, 49 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,599 Alexander's a guard. Jamal Murray's gonna be back this year? Will you 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,840 play enough? Maybe not? Devin Booker, Chris Paul. There are just 51 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,800 so many talented guards in the Western Conference specifically that I don't think you know 52 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,759 if you're a and I would say this about Shay Gilders Alexander two. If 53 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:32,159 the game was in Okay, see, like, you can't guarantee that your 54 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:36,960 player is going to be in there, would voters gravitate towards them because their 55 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,199 team is the host? Sure? Now that being said, if you are 56 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Utah, if you're the front office, if you're if you're Danny Age, 57 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,199 if you're if you're the team owner, if're Ryan Smith, you know you're 58 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:52,400 okay maybe having Donovan Mitchell because it would give you sort of that representative in 59 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,120 Utah that you can't guarantee. Do we even know if they're gonna have anyone 60 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,599 in the Rising Stars Game? If it's not Donovan Mitchell, really have any 61 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,240 three point as of right now in their roster three point contest candidates. I 62 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,080 don't think they have a dunk contest candidate. Maybe Donovan Mitchell's health might be 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:12,199 the best chance there, so you're maybe you're more okay with keeping Donovan Mitchell 64 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:15,839 because if you have him here, one, are the best offers right now 65 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:19,720 going to go anywhere in the next year if Donovan Mitchell is healthy, And 66 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,800 the answer is no, because he's still two more years left on a deal 67 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:29,120 before he can hit free agency after that, And the other thing to factor 68 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,240 in then two is just that okay, if the offers aren't up to snuff, 69 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,319 maybe that gives us in it emboldens us and I'm speaking as the Jazz 70 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:41,240 to keep this asking price where it is where if we want five first round 71 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,439 picks and actual young players from the Knicks or other teams, we're not going 72 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:47,160 to move it down because we're comfortable with the time left on Donovan Mitchell's deal. 73 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:50,639 And there's also just that I would call it a small incentive to just 74 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,680 having the player in Utah where the All Star Game is going to be. 75 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:59,879 But if you're the Jazz specifically, I don't think Donovan Mitchell necessarily ruins your 76 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:01,959 you build by helping you win too many games. But I think you want 77 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,560 to get away from the specter of this next era that is looming over you, 78 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,920 because if Donov Mitchell's on your team all of next season, there's just 79 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:14,639 going to be a lot of will they, won't they? When are they? 80 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:18,160 And that's going to dominate the discourse around Utah rather than being able to 81 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,040 take a foot forward and figure out what direction you're headed in. That's not 82 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,399 to say I think the Jazz should trade Donovan Mitchell for whatever. I think 83 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:29,759 they can be absolutely comfortable going into next season with him. I really do 84 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,720 think that they're going to have more leverage than any team that they're negotiating with. 85 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,680 And you could argue right now that the Knicks have more leverage than anyone 86 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,279 because they're like second best or third best offer realistically might just be better than 87 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:46,560 any other team's top offer. So that does give them some added leverage. 88 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,560 But as the Jazz, you have time to wait this out. And again 89 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:54,720 there's maybe the small benefit of oh, Okay, we have Donovan Mitchell on 90 00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:58,360 the roster. He is an all star player. To have him on our 91 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,279 team when the game's going to be in you it's but I don't think you 92 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,800 don't delay this decision, and I think you've already sort of shown that you 93 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:08,560 won't if the right offer comes along by moving Gobert in the first place. 94 00:06:09,319 --> 00:06:11,720 Robert also asked at this point, do you think it's more like the Jazz 95 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,160 are going to keep Mitchell into the season and look to trade him around the 96 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:16,560 trade deadline? Also, if they do plan on keeping him, what other 97 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:20,199 roster moves would you anticipate. So the first part of this question first, 98 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,720 which we sort of stepped on the toes of in the answer to the trade 99 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,759 discussion ones center on the All Star Game, centered around excuse me, I 100 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,600 don't I honestly don't know. My guests would be that this trade with the 101 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:36,120 Knicks is just gonna get done because this feels just like such a no brainer 102 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,480 trade. Maybe it's a matter of the Jazz acquiescing a little bit, or 103 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:43,279 are the you know, maybe the Knicks are giving so many first round picks, 104 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,720 but perhaps they're not all their own, since they have the the Washington, 105 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,959 Detroit, and Milwaukee Bucks first rounders as well as that Dallas first rounders. 106 00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:54,639 So maybe they're just including a way more picks than we're thinking, but 107 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,839 they've saved a little of theirs, perhaps on the front end or on the 108 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,079 back end. However they're able to figure it out. My bet would be, 109 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:02,319 if I had to bet, which would thank god I don't because I 110 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:06,360 don't want to on this, would be that they're going to move Donovan Mitchell. 111 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:12,120 I did make the case that maybe you should keep him into the season 112 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,360 because would that open up I did previously make the case, I should say, 113 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:19,639 would that open up a list of other trade suitors who this season doesn't 114 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:24,480 go according to plan? And then they're more likely to throw their all and 115 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,560 offer on the table or enter the sweepstakes at all they're not currently involved. 116 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,759 You can even frame this around the Knicks too, if they after getting jail 117 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,279 and Brunson being so heavily tied to Donovan Mitchell, if they start off the 118 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:40,199 season like four and seven or something, there's going to be clamorings throughout that 119 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:42,920 organization to get a deal done. And so do you ultimately get more out 120 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,720 of them by waiting out the let's call it the awkwardness. And we know 121 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:49,319 it's inevitable that Dono Mitchell gets moved, but do you try and wait out 122 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:54,360 this this awkwardness to drum up more from the Knicks or again to increase the 123 00:07:55,519 --> 00:07:58,800 the scope of your suitors. Now, when you go through teams that might 124 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,759 fall under that umbrella, that's where things get difficult. I don't know that. 125 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,240 Look, I'm sure Miami's best offer is probably on the table, and 126 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:09,120 so you're not. You can't physically get more out of them less they're acquiring 127 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,040 additional first round picks somehow, What is the team that's gonna get off to 128 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:16,639 a weird start? Could it be Cleveland? Then maybe all of a sudden 129 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,959 they're looking at Okay, they're not gonna move Darius card and they won't move 130 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:24,079 Evan Mobli is basically every one and everything else left. Will they put them 131 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,000 and additional first round picks on the table? That could be something to look 132 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,839 for. Does something happen in Memphis? I hate the Mitchell John Morant pairing, 133 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,840 even if Memphis wanted to operate with urgency. Some people mentioned the Pelicans. 134 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:37,039 I don't really just buy that. They have CJ. McCollum and Brandon 135 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,279 Ingram and Zion Williamson already. I don't think they need Donovan Mitchell there. 136 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,559 Okay, SE's not going to operate with urgency. Let's is or Orlando gonna 137 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,159 be like better than expected? Twenty games into the season, they decide, 138 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,279 well, maybe we should fucking go for it. And Palo Bank Caro, 139 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,639 you know, we're not moving him, but everyone else pretty much is available. 140 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,799 Maybe they were making friends Wagner untouchable or jail and Suggs one of the 141 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:03,039 other two, but they could certainly attractive offers a team like the Kings. 142 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,399 No, they're not gonna get involved. Maybe Washington might be more motivated to 143 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:09,559 do something if they start the season even better or worse than expected, because 144 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:13,399 if they're better, they could view making this big push in the East is 145 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:18,399 more attainable than before. And if they're not, they if they start poorly, 146 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,159 well, we just paid Bradley Beal, like we have to at least 147 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:24,639 we're obligated to try and go for it now. I do think that if 148 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,200 they can negotiate a round that first round pick that's owed to New York, 149 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,840 which is difficult because New York isn't gonna unprotect that pick willie nilly. If 150 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,320 you're the Wizards, though, or you're the Jazz and you're looking at it, 151 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,080 like, Okay, that protection, it's gonna convey no later than twenty 152 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,960 twenty four. Let's just say that. Then you can build out offers from 153 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,799 that. Afterwards. It's top twelve protected next year. So if the Wizards 154 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,960 are really good, maybe the Jazz can look at it and say, well, 155 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:50,840 yeah, they can conditionally trade us twenty five, twenty seven, and 156 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,159 twenty nine. They all need to turn into second rounders if they don't convey, 157 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,399 YadA, YadA, YadA. But we think it's gonna convey, and 158 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,279 so at worst, maybe they're missing out on that first first round pick in 159 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,720 twenty five, but in twenty seven twenty nine, they know that they're gonna 160 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:09,240 get those picks in all likelihood. So that is a team that I could 161 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,320 see maybe upping the Anti there. I don't like it's it's hard to spot 162 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,840 anyone else. Maybe Charlotte gets more heavily involved. I don't think Chicago like 163 00:10:15,879 --> 00:10:18,240 would be right. Dallas can say they want to get more involved if they 164 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,240 start off the season really poorly, but they just don't like their best offer 165 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,519 is not great. They could if they put every pick on the table in 166 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,600 the future. Sure twenty five, twenty seven, twenty nine, they can 167 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,840 do all the swaps that they want to, maybe that's semi attractive, But 168 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,639 just looking at they don't have any blue chip young players to send out aside 169 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:41,360 from Lucanachach obviously, and if you're Utah, like you don't even want I 170 00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:43,799 guess you could want to flip them for other value. But like if you're 171 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,320 able to get as an example, would and Maxi Kleebo or even dor and 172 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:54,360 Finney Smith as like, what long term value do those players hold to your 173 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:56,440 rebuild If you're rerouting them the third and fourth teams and you're getting more first 174 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,360 her and equity for that, and you've just decided, hey, we don't 175 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,360 need like a tangible youngster. We're just we're gonna fucking just load up on 176 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:05,559 picks, picks and picks and picks. Cause as many bites to the draft 177 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,360 apple and also the trade apple as we can. I could see that. 178 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:13,240 So those are just some teams to maybe keep an eye on there. But 179 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,840 if the Jazz decide to keep Mitchell, you're looking at the rest of the 180 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,320 roster. I think they're gonna need to do something to probably address the front 181 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,080 court rotation a little bit better. I don't know if that comes in the 182 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,200 form of do they sign one of the afterthought three agents at the moment, 183 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,679 are they making a trade with one of their many guards. It's gonna be 184 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,399 a combination, I think of of the two of they're gonna move another guard 185 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:37,639 and maybe there's a big coming back because that just you know right now having 186 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:41,080 Walker Kessler, I guess Jared Vanderbilt like, Okay, that's fine, and 187 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,919 if you still believe in you joke as a bookie, Okay, you could 188 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,600 play small with Rudy Gay like, that's just that's uninspiring stuff for the most 189 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,600 part. So I would expect them to upgrade somewhere in the front court while 190 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:58,039 also sort of diluting the guard situation. And I think what's important here is 191 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:05,320 that if they're keeping Mitchell, we could discuss the route of would they consider 192 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,960 like if he says all of a sudden he wants to stay forever and ever 193 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,840 and ever, would they consider like moving forward with him, then we can 194 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:13,759 talk about like actual names. But if you're gonna keep Mitchell in the next 195 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:18,759 season or even through next season, I don't think your direction has changed. 196 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:22,600 You're still trying to rebuild, and so you're not going to go out and 197 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:24,639 like you're not going to be a team that tries to go out and acquire 198 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,360 a winnet. Like you're not gonna go out and try and acquire John Collins 199 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,200 right now. So like you could maybe do something like that straddles the line 200 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,159 between if it seems like Jay Crowder might be unhappy in Phoenix, is there 201 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,120 something to be built around, like Boyad Bogdanovitch for Jay Crowder and then Dario 202 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,559 Sarich, like that could be a deal to look at us because that's a 203 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,440 defensive downgrade for Phoenix, but it's definitely an offensive upgrade. And they need 204 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,600 their third best player to be a better self creator, and I call it 205 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,120 an outside in creator. And I don't know that Boyomdonovitch checks that box. 206 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:01,320 He's not gonna you a ton of pressure, but he gives you shooting in 207 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,240 a little bit of self creation that's going to be more than DeAndre Ayton probably. 208 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:07,399 So I wouldn't say Boyomdanovich is their third best player, but you would 209 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:11,559 probably be their third best offensive player or just very close to DeAndre Eton in 210 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,279 that vein. I mean, look, it's tough because DeAndre atan is just 211 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,279 so good in his offensive role, and we can't let how the sun season 212 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,759 ended or how negotiations went with him sort of taint our view there. My 213 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,840 point is, if you're looking for a way to diversify and juice up the 214 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:28,799 offense, I mean, Boyomdonovitch just before would be interesting. I think you'd 215 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:33,000 probably prefer to keep Jay Crowder still in that instance. But if you're Utah, 216 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,759 yeah, you want Cam Johnson, even though he's extension knowledgeable, You're 217 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:39,120 not getting him for Boyomodonovitch, And so maybe there's like that's the move to 218 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,200 look at where you've balanced out your roster, but you haven't traded any long 219 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,080 term assets. Because Boyomdanovich is on an expiring contract, I could see making 220 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,679 a move along those lines. And you have started to play some four and 221 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,879 he's also played a lot of small ball five before his ac landry. But 222 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:54,519 I would still expect him to look at, Okay, what are we doing 223 00:13:54,519 --> 00:13:58,919 with Beverly, What are we doing with Conley, Boyamdonovitch, Molik Beasley, 224 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:03,080 Jordan Clarkson. I think all those names, and I would say, if 225 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,440 donov Mitchell stays in the next season, I would think at least one of 226 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,120 those guys gets moved, if not more than one of them. And look, 227 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:13,120 a lot of this stuff with Donovan Mitchell might just be held up by 228 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,399 the Kevin Durant stuff. There are teams that could enter the fray, like 229 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,960 let's just say Toronto after Kevin Durant's moved, they missed that boat. Maybe 230 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,480 they entered the favorite Dono Mitchell, or maybe don Mitchell's moved as part of 231 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,120 this mega Kevin Durant tradehere, Kevin Durant's not going to Utah, but is 232 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:30,600 it? Because the by product of a Kevin Durant trade is the Nets are 233 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,600 moving Kyrie Irving and so they're sending him to Lakers. The Jazz get involved 234 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,519 to take on picks to take on Russell Westbrook. They're sending Donovan Mitchell to 235 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:41,799 another team or are they sending Donovan Mitchell to Brooklyn itself, which you would 236 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,440 have to figure that out because he and Ben Simmons cannot be on the same 237 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,200 team. It'd be bigger, bigger, bigger. I'm just saying business for 238 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,039 Donovan Mitchell is probably being held up at least to some extent outside of the 239 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,039 Knicks runoff as anyway, by what's happening with Kevin Durant. So if they 240 00:14:56,039 --> 00:14:58,080 are going to keep Donovan Mitchell, I think the move is, let's, 241 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:03,120 you know, let's sort of truncate this gard rotation and see if we can 242 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:05,200 just get some some front court help. And it could be you could skew 243 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,000 younger and try and take a flyer on like because there were but they were 244 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:11,879 like no, like young four, could you get PJ. Washington and Utaha 245 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,679 or but like what is the opportunity cost of that going to be? And 246 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,000 also kind of like what's the point it'd be cool to get on Yeka Kungu 247 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,679 from Atlanta? Like what are you giving up to get him? Atlanta used 248 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,720 him as a player that's going to help them win now. So but that's 249 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,279 that's the route you would go, and you can, you can if you 250 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,200 want to still field a competitive team, I guess to be interesting. But 251 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:35,080 at the same time, like there's value in your pick. I don't think 252 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,519 Dono Mitchell ruined your your rebuild, but like you're gonna have there's value in 253 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:43,320 your pick being as bad as possible is my point. So, uh, 254 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:46,159 this season, I guess it technically doesn't matter because they own it out right 255 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:50,320 whereas in twenty and twenty four it's top ten protective. So you don't want 256 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,399 to be too good when you're looking at the obligation of Okay, see that 257 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,320 being said, you want to get this thing started right away, and I 258 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,120 don't think that changes with or without with Donovan Mitchell staying in the Fold or 259 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:04,080 another year. The final question from Robert in the wake of the Katie ultimatum, 260 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:07,759 it really feels like Nash is out of a job regardless of what happens. 261 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:10,960 If he's ultimately let go, who would you expect as his replacement? 262 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,399 Do you think Quinn Snyder would consider Brooklyn his next coaching stop. That's interesting. 263 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:22,159 So do I think Steve Nash is out of a job regardless if Kevin 264 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,759 Durant stays Yes. If he doesn't, I think they're probably going to be 265 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:30,480 more inclined to just I think it depends on their direction. They've made it 266 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:37,559 very clear as so far that they want to get back a player who helps 267 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,159 them win now in a Kevin Durant trade, and that makes some sense because 268 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,559 of how much of their draft future is mortgage to Houston right now. But 269 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,080 they want picks and players because they want to compete. They still have Ben 270 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Simmons. I don't know what they're gonna get. Maybe they're just figuring on 271 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,840 what we'll get picks for Kyrie if we move them to the Lakers or whatever. 272 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:56,519 So I think they would still let it play out with Nash. Should 273 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,679 kd get moved your own getting rid of Nash? I think at this point, 274 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:04,799 if you never wanted him to begin with, if you're Josi and Shawn 275 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:10,119 Marks, and it was just fully that that band wagon was completely driven by 276 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:15,079 Katie and Kyrie. But now that Katie doesn't want him anymore, like you 277 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,960 know, I don't think and he looped him and Sean Marks together, and 278 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,920 we know that Shawn Marks and Steve Nash have have somewhat of a history. 279 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,559 But I think that people are really underestimating the extent to which Kevin Durant played 280 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:27,480 a role in Steve Nash coming on the nets radar. I don't think he's 281 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,160 not only to blame. There's so much blame to go around here with the 282 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,079 organization with the players, so I would I'm not putting it all on Katie, 283 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:40,559 but like we can't, he's not teflon in this either, Like he 284 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,920 fucked up a ton and he has not proved to be. Look, this 285 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,440 is why I wouldn't fire. This is my my I don't want to get 286 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,000 into this too much, but like I wouldn't fire Shawn Marks and Steve Nash 287 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:53,839 just to keep Kevin Durant at this point because one, I'm not even sure 288 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:56,160 if he wants to actually stay or is this just a ploy because he knows 289 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,319 the Nets aren't going to give into it and he wants to accelerate the trade 290 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,359 sweepstakes. But two, it was just like, well should we trust Kevin 291 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Durant's judgment as the quasi operator of a team where he wanted DeAndre Jordan on 292 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,960 the roster. He wanted the Nest to go all in on James Harden, 293 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,599 and then couldn't figure out a way to keep James Harden in Brooklyn or figure 294 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,079 out a way for Kyrie to get, you know, be more involved with 295 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,400 the team so that James Harden might want to stay in Brooklyn. And then 296 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,319 now he wanted a coach and he's going to want him fired. He also 297 00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:27,759 talked about the research that he did on Kenny Atkinson before he signed in Brooklyn. 298 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:30,559 He was intrigued, but then Kenny Atkinson was forced out basically the minute 299 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:34,680 that KD and was fully healthy and able to play there. So that's why 300 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,160 I'm not fine. I'm not putting this all in KD, but he has 301 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:45,200 not shown like as someone with a primary voice in the organization like Josiah Shawn 302 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,400 Marks and Kevin Durant. If this was actually a collaborative effort, he's gonna 303 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,359 deserve equal, if not more, of the Blaine based off some of the 304 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,960 decisions that were made, specifically the DeAndre Jordan one. But I look, 305 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:56,680 the nets fucked up there too. They never should have allowed that to be 306 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,440 a condition, or you at least don't let him start for so long over 307 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,880 Karen Allen. So this is all to say that if Kevin Durant is still 308 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,759 in Brooklyn, though, I would probably has her that it's because you got 309 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,759 rid of at least Steve Nash, if not both him and Sean marsh or 310 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:14,599 maybe you just don't care about the awkwardness. You're gonna keep Steve Nash in 311 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:18,240 general. Do I think Quinn Snyder would consider Brooklyn. I think he's smart 312 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,200 enough not to touch this with a one hundred foot pole, because this is 313 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,160 combustible Kyrie's going to be a free agent after this season? This season, 314 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:29,519 is he just going to leave given how contentious contract talks were, I would 315 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:32,839 absolutely predict that unless they figure out a way to extend him or they're willing 316 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:36,160 to to max him out. And then also just we don't know if Kevin 317 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,240 Durant actually wants to be there. If you're allowing him to hand pick the 318 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:42,400 next coach, then okay, maybe that changes things. So I couldn't even 319 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:48,799 reasonably throw names out here, just like, should we just put Rich Kleman 320 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,440 into the GM job if Sean Marks gets flied? Like, is that the 321 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:56,559 level of control that Kady wants or the level of say, that he wants 322 00:19:56,559 --> 00:20:00,279 in the organization? So I can't even throw name out there because we don't 323 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:03,920 also know Brooklyn's direction. If Nash gets fired. Now, if Nash gets 324 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,400 fired and it's to keep Kevin Duran and Kyrie and they're committed and the organizations 325 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,920 committed to them, then maybe you could enter the fold for the quinn Snyders, 326 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,480 the Mike y Antoni if he's sort of hovering around out there, if 327 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,400 you're not operating under the assumption that either of those players will be there, 328 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,279 I think you keep Nash. And if you're not going to keep Nash at 329 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:26,119 that point, I honestly don't know what the argument would be to get rid 330 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,400 of him. If you do move Kyrie and Katie, see what he could 331 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,240 do with the roster, and then also get a feel for what's going to 332 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:36,640 be in the market, what's going to be in the market leading into next 333 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,079 season when you kind of have a better idea of what your return was on 334 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,279 the Kevin Duran and Kyrie Irving trades in the first place, And that might 335 00:20:42,279 --> 00:20:45,599 be The other thing is if if Kyrie and Katie aren't going to be there, 336 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,880 we need to see what the Nets roster looks like before we decide whether 337 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Steve Nash would be there. Maybe Steve Nash doesn't want to be there where 338 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,720 he's like, I don't I don't need this shit. I didn't need this 339 00:20:53,759 --> 00:20:56,759 ship in the first place. Why I even take this job? YadA, 340 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:59,079 YadA, YadA. And the other thing is, just like, if you 341 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,359 get rid of Kyrie d doesn't that make the Nets more attractive to prospective coaching 342 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,119 candidates because they know that they're probably gonna get more leeway, more runway to 343 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,119 actually build up the team, and so that might make it more attractive to 344 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,079 someone like Quinn Snyder. I think a lot of people believe that he's just 345 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:15,240 going to be next in line in San Antonio at this point and that he's 346 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:19,039 taking a gap year here until that spot opens up as possible, But I 347 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:25,279 would argue that to an established name, unless you're throwing just ungodly sums of 348 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:27,839 money at them, But to an established name where you have some leverage in 349 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:33,880 talks, you know that you'll be sought after regardless, and other coaching areas 350 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,480 like you could probably feel more comfortable with KD not being in Brooklyn because it 351 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:42,000 shows that they're gonna, at least even if they want to win soon ish, 352 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:45,279 they're gonna give you some graduality there. They're going to give you a 353 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,720 you know you're going to be great and on a developmental curve. Just because 354 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:52,279 there's so many what ifs outside of this, what does Ben Simmons look like, 355 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:53,319 how many games does he play? What's up with the back? What's 356 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:59,160 his fit with the roster? So I if I had to predict who's more 357 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,000 likely to be on the nets to start with the nets to start the season, 358 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,079 Katie or Nash. I'm probably gonna take Nash because it really, to 359 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,720 me just feels like Katie wants out of Brooklyn at this point. That's where 360 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,319 that's where I'm certainly at with that. It just feels like I would not 361 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,559 go as far as saying that it feels like Nash is out of a job 362 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,559 regardless, though I don't know that we have enough of a sample size too 363 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,599 with a full strength roster to draw any sweeping conclusions about him. But yeah, 364 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,519 if Katie is gonna come back, and like you've made the conscious decision 365 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:30,920 to try and make this work, it probably doesn't make sense to get rid 366 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,440 of Nash at this point. Thank you for the questions, Robert. Let's 367 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:41,680 move on to we have a couple from uh some YouTube friends, so e 368 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,480 E L. I ask my question is who do you think will be the 369 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,400 starting four and five in Detroit? Amongst the Lenox m ME three, Duran 370 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,880 beef stew and Newland's Noel So And there's two questions here. I'll get to 371 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,759 the first one. Get to the first one first, obviously in case no 372 00:22:56,839 --> 00:23:02,279 one caught that. So for the Pistons, I think, so we know 373 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:07,200 who's gonna be Like the three starters that are locked down at this point is 374 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,720 you do you have Kade, you have Jade and Ivy. It's like, 375 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:12,039 you know those are gonna be I guess you're if you want to call it 376 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:15,799 a starting backcourt, and then you have I guess Sadiq Bay would be the 377 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:18,319 guy that we just assume is also going to be in there because he's been 378 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,680 such a starter. You could maybe justify it by trying to make him be 379 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:26,759 the the three. But I think a lot of people believe it's gonna be 380 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,680 like Stew and Bagley and that Durham won't start right away. I would advocate 381 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:36,599 for Stu and Isaiah Livers actually, because I don't think this team is surrounded 382 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,160 Kade and Jade and Ivy two with enough shooting, nearly enough shooting, I 383 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,559 would say, And so I'm gonna try and roll out as much shooting as 384 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:48,680 possible in that starting five. Bagley and Stew together, to me, would 385 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,440 be a disaster. Isaiah Livers showed a lot in Suverer League, and he's 386 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,480 not afraid to get those shots up, and so I think I would start 387 00:23:53,599 --> 00:24:00,839 him Stu, and then I would go with Bay, Ivy and and Cade. 388 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,960 I'm not opposed to starting Durhan. I just feel like this is a 389 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,880 team that's going to prefer that he come off the bench to start his career. 390 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,759 I will say I'll be fairly shocked if Newlands Noll is starting, just 391 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:18,920 because I don't know how much they're really invested in new Lands no well succeeding, 392 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,640 and so I'd rank him as the least likely to start of anyone that 393 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,799 we just mentioned, even more so than Alynic. Also, maybe if Alc 394 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,279 burks As you're starting three two and then you just put Bay at the four. 395 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:34,640 But if we're choosing from these players, I know Livers wasn't on your 396 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,079 list, Lee, I would start Livers and be stew is my front court. 397 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,839 I might even start Livers and Durhan because I would just go full like 398 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,559 I don't stew Is not old and he's good, Like I really think that 399 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:49,480 he's underrated on defense specifically. But I don't want to see Bagley and stup 400 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,759 Plague. I don't want to see Bagley at the four with another big I 401 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:55,119 guess it's a little different if you signed to play with a link, but 402 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,319 I don't really know that. I want to see the defense of a Bagley 403 00:24:56,319 --> 00:25:00,680 Olnic front court. So I would go with isa A Livers and Beef stew 404 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:06,000 with an honorable mention to Isaiah Livers and Jaen Duran with Jay and Ivy and 405 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,839 Kate Cunningham just need to start. I want to see that second question from 406 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:14,559 uh Lee, who do you see in free agency next season being a good 407 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,119 fit with the Pistons. That is an interesting question. I think you need 408 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,440 to look at like, what do you think they need long term still? 409 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,759 And it's probably if you think they drafted their center of the future and then 410 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:30,599 their point guards, their back goor to the future in paid Cunningham and Dave 411 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,559 and Ivy, you're looking at the long term three and four spots. Now, 412 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:41,759 is Bay in the conversation to be a long term keeper? Absolutely? 413 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:45,759 I would say that they might view him as a long term guy more than 414 00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:49,559 not. So you just go with someone who I guess can operate well off 415 00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:53,480 of him. And if you're gonna have maybe I think my the spreadsheet I'm 416 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,480 looking at, we'll have them at almost sixty million dollars in cash base. 417 00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:00,599 You're kind of not gonna say, have your pick of the litter, but 418 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,799 you can go a lot of different directions. I still think what you ultimately 419 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:08,759 should do is probably skew younger when you're going it's target these free agents because 420 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:15,440 you're not going to be at the uh You're not going I mean maybe maybe 421 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,079 I shouldn't say that because maybe they shock us and they're just really good this 422 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,680 season. So you could talk to yourself into going after someone more veteran, 423 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:26,720 like if Andrew Wiggins hits the open market, if if Harrison Barnes is there, 424 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,799 are you good enough to go that route? I would be interested in 425 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:37,119 Kyle Kuzma for this team, if you like Jay Crowder uh like, just 426 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,640 to get a veteran presence in there. What could be interesting if you really 427 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,799 wanted to go sort of the younger route though, If let's just say he 428 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,599 has a good year and stays healthy and hits retarcht to free agency because he 429 00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:51,480 hasn't agree in extension with Atlanta, Like, are you one of the teams 430 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,079 that maybe throws an offer sheet at DeAndre Hunter? That could be certainly something 431 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,880 that would be worth taking a look at. Maybe depending on how Cam Reddish 432 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,039 plays in New York this season and he enters restricted free agency, do you 433 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:04,839 take a look at him, I would not. I want to make that 434 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,920 clear and not prioritize him. I'm just trying to think of restricted free agents 435 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:14,319 from for twenty and twenty three. But I like the idea of like, 436 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000 is Wiggins, do you consider him young enough? He'll be having wrapped up 437 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,279 his age twenty eight season, I believe or he's twenty eight and a half 438 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,559 right now, so maybe that would be his age twenty nine season. I 439 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,440 should double check that, so I don't know, and also costs. I 440 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,200 don't think you need to overpay anyone. So yeah, he's about to oh 441 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,599 excuse me, he's about to play out as age twenty seventh season, So 442 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,720 he's younger than I actually thought. So maybe he's a name that you that 443 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,240 you could look at there. I don't like r J. Barrett with this 444 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:45,880 team as another restricted free agent that jumps off the page. Cameron Johnson would 445 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,119 be fun if he enters restricted free agency. You have him and Duran as 446 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,119 your four or five with Bay. That's something that could totally work. So 447 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:56,240 you could certainly take a look at him, maybe as someone who's like a 448 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,119 poor man's Cam Johnson. You look at PJ. Washington, Grant Williams as 449 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,400 well. He'd be a lot He's a lot better than Johnson or PJ. 450 00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:07,599 Washington, a lot of defensive end too. That type of name, though, 451 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,319 I don't think that you need to go spend like a bookoo bucks. 452 00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,599 Now. If you want like a building block type wing or someone who's gonna 453 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,799 maybe elevate your status a little bit more, then yeah, Like if we're 454 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:21,079 talking about small forward specifically, like a true three, maybe with someone who 455 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,319 is the potential to play the four, Andrew Wiggins comes to mind. I 456 00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:29,480 would probably steer clear of a reunion with Chris Middleton in so far as that's 457 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,319 really possible. I like the idea of Kelly Woodbridge Junior, just because they 458 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,000 could get out and run with him. But I just don't. I don't 459 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:37,880 really like the I want to see more shooting, and so that's where Andrew 460 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,279 Wiggins would kind of makes sense there. But yeah, those are names that 461 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:45,599 spring to mind. You could also just take the flyers or players who really 462 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,839 you know, if T. J. Warrens stays healthy and balls out in 463 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Brooklyn, we know they don't have his bird rights, can't keep him, 464 00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:52,519 do you just take a look at him? And so I still think you're 465 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,119 you're in flyer mode, but if you want it to go the all in 466 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,359 route, I would keep it eye on someone like a Hunter and Andrew Wiggins. 467 00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,039 Like those would be names because the Pistons have so much cap space and 468 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,480 if they, let's say they're bringing another high draft pick, they anticipate being 469 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:11,880 good. I think they still need like wing depth and wing shooting specifically on 470 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160 this roster, So you could take a look at those names. Even Harrison 471 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,319 Barnes, if you're committed to playing him more at the four than the three, 472 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,000 and you have sa deep Bay, they're still so those are some names 473 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,319 that spring to mind for me. Thank you for those questions. Lead we 474 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,359 have I believe another one on YouTube if there was any This is from Nathan 475 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,799 Stock. If there was any team to get relocated in the future, cough, 476 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,039 King's cough, which one seems most likely? Bonus? What would be 477 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:40,799 your personal favorite locations for expansion teams and what seems most likely? So I 478 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,200 don't I don't know what team would get relocated. It's probably the Pelicans. 479 00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:48,279 And like the King's fan base is too like rapidly supportive in a great way 480 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,519 or engaged, I should say, because a lot of them are critical of 481 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,920 the King's organization. I don't want any I want to make this giry. 482 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,400 I don't want any market to lose their their franchise. I would just be 483 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,480 devastated for the fans. I'm more about expansion rather than relocation, so I 484 00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:08,400 wouldn't even hazard to answer this question. I will say that it feels like 485 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:12,759 maybe it would be New Orleans. Maybe I'm just you know two, I'm 486 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:18,240 being hashtag national atalysts and reading too much in the market, but that would 487 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:19,559 be my pick if there was going to be a relocation. Again, I 488 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,519 don't think there should be. I don't think New Orleans. I definitely don't 489 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,119 think people have named Memphis in the past. I don't think Sacramento. Those 490 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,359 are not markets that should lose their franchises. It's not, you know, 491 00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,640 Kings fans fault. It's not the market's fault that the King's front office is 492 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,839 by and large, been fucking awful over the past couple of decades. My 493 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,480 personal favorite market to put an expansion team, just because I would want to 494 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,559 cover them, there is San Diego, just full stop, and then all 495 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:44,400 of a sudden, it's oh, it's quiet, going to go there, 496 00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,200 But realistically, I just I think it's gonna end up being Vegas at this 497 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,440 point, Vegas or Seattle. I hope of the two. I prefer to 498 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,359 see Seattle first. But if you're gonna expand, I feel like we're gonna 499 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,400 get two franchises at once at this stage, so it would be Las Vegas 500 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,119 and Seattle for me, and I don't I would just love to see a 501 00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:03,839 franchise in San Diego so I could go there. That is the selfish answer. 502 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,599 I don't think it's necessarily the right answer. I want to make that 503 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,839 abundantly clear, and the right answer is just probably Seattle. That market deserves 504 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,400 a franchise, So Vegas and Seattle I think most likely after that, I 505 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,440 honestly don't know. Is it West Virginia and New Mexico maybe, Like I 506 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,559 don't know where San Diego really falls on that list. It's probably not anywhere 507 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,640 close to where I want it to be, though, just because I would 508 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,359 like to make the trek out to San Diego or Bleach Report could just open 509 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,599 up some corporate headquarters, maybe Hardwar Knox heused to open up. I'm gonna 510 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,279 llc Hardwar Knox. Then we're gonna open up a headquarters in San Diego, 511 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,960 so just selfishly, so that I could travel. I don't want to live 512 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,799 there because it's really expensive, although I live in one of the most expensive 513 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:45,640 parts of the country anyway. So yeah, we're gonna open up a corporate 514 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,519 headquarters in San Diego for hardware Knox, and I'm going to move there. 515 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,759 That is the dream. It'll be a lot easier to justify said dream or 516 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,480 actualize it. I should say, if there is a team in San Diego, 517 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,720 let's get to this. This will be the last. It's the last 518 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:07,400 question I have banked. So it comes from on Twitter Tybel's wingspan. So 519 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,519 this question was interesting and I had to ask people around the league who covered 520 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:15,240 the league friends of mine as well about this. So the question is so, 521 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,359 on Danny LaRue's pod Real GM Pod, he was going through pros and 522 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200 cons of the Knick's roster and listed a few of those cons. But one 523 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,119 of those cons was and then you combine that with having a million different left 524 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,160 handed people, and he said so, he said it so confidently that I 525 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,640 had to wonder if that was true. Our right he's more valuable than lefties 526 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:34,960 and why so I asked people about this. I also went and listened to 527 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,720 that podcast he did. Basically, Danny Rue did say this, and I 528 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,400 have no doubt that Danny Larrue is plugged in and knows his shit. I 529 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,079 did ask multiple people, though, like who cover the league, coach, 530 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,319 because like I asked people like plugged in people, not like a GM's and 531 00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:52,440 stuff. I'm not. I'm not plugged into next step, but I asked 532 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,759 people I trust smart basketball people. Is the best way to frame it, 533 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,880 and they don't understand why this would be a thing. Collectively I think the 534 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,640 best. So a lot of the answers I got were lefties give you more 535 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,720 mismatches because they're like idiosyncratic basically on offense, and so it makes them more 536 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,480 difficult to cover. And you look at you know, there are players who've 537 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,079 talked about left handed players say they feel they're more difficult to cover, and 538 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:19,079 then there are defenders that say it's a little bit harder to contest a shot. 539 00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,480 I think what LaRue was getting at, and I think he kind of 540 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:27,000 mentioned this as well, is that Jalen Brunson and Julius Randall specifically like to 541 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,640 have plays run for them on a specific side of the floor. Now, 542 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,359 players are going to be used to playing on opposite ends of the court, 543 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:37,079 but if you're just placing one another or you're stacking the court too far to 544 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:37,960 that end, and then you're also kind of dealing with the fact that RJ. 545 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:42,000 Barrett's on the floor. Maybe that's not a big deal because RJ is 546 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:46,400 so comfortable I think operating to the right. But like I guess there could 547 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:53,079 be some issue with that. I really don't see like that being detrimental. 548 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Maybe that's more a comment on just a talent in New York where it's okay, 549 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 they have all these left handers, but do we trust any of them 550 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:04,559 to be able to adapt as much? And I think the bigger thing here 551 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,800 when you look at the Knicks is that Barrett, based off how he played 552 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:14,119 the last season, Brunton, and Randall all prefer to operate inside the arc. 553 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,159 I think Barrett is the most comfortable operating beyond the arc of all three, 554 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,000 just because he has so much experience as a set shooter. And Jalen 555 00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,480 Brunson will take set threes and we've seen Julius Randall will take off the dribble 556 00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:28,719 threes, and this past season they did not go in, but that's not 557 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,840 the strong suit at this point for any of them. And RJ probably comes 558 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,039 close as a set shooter, which is like the pressure you put on the 559 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,440 rim. They put the ball in his hands. So you're probably worried just 560 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:40,440 about all three of them, among others on this team wanting to occupy too 561 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,159 much of the same space. Does that unnecessarily clump up your offense. I 562 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,159 don't know that I view it as a downside, but it's certainly something I 563 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,840 guess to watch for if you believe that Brunson and Randall or so there's a 564 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,880 rigidity to where they want from where they want to operate. I guess something 565 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,599 to watch, not something I can say that thought about. It was a 566 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,679 fascinating question, and so out look all the fur to Danie LaRue, who's 567 00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:08,039 smarter, way smarter than I am. But I it's not something I considered. 568 00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:10,920 But I do look at the Knicks offense overall and see that, oh, 569 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,239 there isn't enough shooting. There's a lot of guys that like to occupy 570 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,960 the same space. But I would just wonder if if you're running too many 571 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,679 plays on one side of the court, are other players who are left handed? 572 00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:22,480 Are they gonna feel out of place? But like that's in existence they 573 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,880 have to deal with anyway. If you're you're having right handers, like, 574 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,039 you're all not gonna be able to They're gonna have to play on on opposite 575 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,280 ends. But I guess because of that, you're gonna be more comfortable where 576 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,239 you're actually standing. So is there going to be a discomfort level they are 577 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,119 with the left handers on the Knicks roster? Are we gonna see like left 578 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:43,079 handed lineup staggering where there's no more than two lefties on the court at the 579 00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:46,039 same time for New York. I don't know realistically, no, because you 580 00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:50,880 right now you have three lefties. I think three lefties projected to be in 581 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,719 your starting five. So that's just not something that you're gonna be able to 582 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,360 to get around. And also I think I forgot this is Evan four ya 583 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,239 lev No, he's alright. I just looked this up. That's why I'm 584 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,440 stuttering. So yeah, that I just I never thought about it. But 585 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,199 I do think that's the rationale, is that you're worried about having too many 586 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:13,599 players who already like to occupy sort of the same space like inside the ark. 587 00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:16,440 But now we're also sort of like narrowing that down even further to the 588 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,880 side of the court from which they like to generate their touches from, and 589 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,039 that could really, you know, make things clunky. This was a fun 590 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,960 quick by our Standards mailbag. Thank you everyone for the questions this past week. 591 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,239 Beginning if you're listening to this, on Monday the fifteenth, we begin 592 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,039 our division division by division off season grades. I tried to wait for Kevin 593 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,000 Durant and Tom and Mitchell. I can't do it anymore. Like, we 594 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:44,320 just either get these out and we'll react to those trades if and when they 595 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,760 happen. I might try and push back the Northwest and Atlantic division grades just 596 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,719 a little bit, but probably not at this point. So those will be 597 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,920 rolling out. We'll have four for you through this week, and then we'll 598 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,400 have the other two either Monday Tuesday of next week or might be Tuesday Wednesday 599 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,119 if I just want to put out a different sort of po to change up 600 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,239 the pace. And finally, just the housekeeping notes for people who make it 601 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,199 to the end. I will be traveling a couple of times during this offseason. 602 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920 I'm gonna try and pre plan some content. You all have been great 603 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,400 about consuming it, and I know a lot of people have said they appreciate 604 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,320 that we're putting out content during this time of the year. So I want 605 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:22,440 to make I want to make sure that that I'm continuing to put out content 606 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:27,800 during this time for you all. I'd like producing content. I look it's 607 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,079 gonna help me, I guess stay up on the game, but I will 608 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,000 be traveling, so I don't know what the volume is going to be. 609 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,880 Like I can guarantee you that one of the times we're traveling for four days 610 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,440 at the end of August. I think that's not a leisure trip unfortunately, 611 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,239 and then I'm taking my I will call it much needed. I'm gonna try 612 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,159 and unplug at the beginning of September kind of just like I think it's September 613 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,599 eight to twenty, I will we really start to ramp up as one I'm 614 00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,960 meeting on I'll try and have content plan, but I'm not as responsive as 615 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,719 normal and discord on YouTube. And you've listened to this far. That is 616 00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,639 going to be for the reason why until next time though, and is always 617 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,079 one remember to subscribe, but two I leave you with the shout out from 618 00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,360 one the only Frank Neil A. Kno