1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,240 Hi, This is Fred Green of golf Smarter with the eighth appearance that Tony 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,199 Manzoni made on golf Smarter number four hundred and fifty six that was recorded back 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,240 in September of twenty fourteen. This is the first of two consecutive episodes from 4 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:19,399 that month as we're getting close to the end of our annual series as we 5 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:25,559 spring back into golf season with Tony Manzoni. Tony's book The Lost Fundamental, 6 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:31,320 One Simple Move Better Golf Forever is available on Amazon in paperback and on kindle 7 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:35,960 format, and the DVD that he created, which we converted to a private 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,200 link online, is also available when you write to me. For the most 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,960 comprehensive information ever collected on Tony, please go to Golfsmarter dot com. Slash 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Tony and Tony is all lowercase. If you'd like access to that video, 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,960 please write to me directly golf Smarter Podcast at gmail dot com, or just 12 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,240 click on the Heyfred button when you visit golf smarter com for members only. 13 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:07,000 Golf Smarter number four hundred and fifty six published on September thirty, twenty fourteen. 14 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:11,760 You're headed address Hitting behind the Ball in more Part one with Tony Mantoni. 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:18,519 This is Golf Smarter. Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast. Tony, 16 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,879 Hey, Fred, how are you. I'm doing fine. It's nice 17 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,480 to have you back on the show. I apologize immediately for the banging, 18 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:30,719 but there's some construction being done outside my office, so if it sounds like 19 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:34,879 someone's knocking to get in, I'm not answering the door. All right, 20 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,040 you got it? How things going down there in Palm Desert, I get 21 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:44,760 It's amazing, continues to be amazing. This is what your ninth appearance on 22 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:53,079 Golf Smarter, and every time you're on there's this just a tremendous reaction to 23 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:57,239 your work and purchases of your book and your video, The Lost Fundamental. 24 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:07,159 It's well, that really pleases me to hear, obviously, and hopefully this 25 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:10,599 ninth podcast will generate more interest. Yeah. Well again, the book is 26 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:15,280 called The Loss Fundamental. It's also the name of a DVD and it's only 27 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:23,919 available on Golf Smarter website because your site's not working properly. But maybe we'll 28 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,800 get that fixed too. And we're still to those of you who are not 29 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:30,800 in the United States, we apologize, but we're still trying to figure out 30 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,360 how to make both the book and the video available as a digital download. 31 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:38,919 At this point it's not, but as soon as it is, we'll let 32 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,719 you know. So that's we're working on that. So how's the team doing 33 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:47,560 down to College of the Desert. Well, this is a rebuilding period for 34 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,240 us. Last year's team primarily broke off to other colleges and so forth, 35 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,479 and that's always problemly to your schools. You can't build a dynasty. But 36 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,400 that being said, we did win our twenty eighth conference championship in a row. 37 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Then you have built a dynasty. It is a little crazy, and 38 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:13,599 I think that we've got a shot at twenty nine. I brought in a 39 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,639 bunch of boys that are freshmen, but they're good players. They just need 40 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:23,120 guidance like always, and that's my job. So you know, we have 41 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:28,240 high hopes again, Fred, Yeah, awesome. How is it, Tony? 42 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:31,719 Now you're dealing with kids that are eighteen nineteen years old primarily? Correct? 43 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:38,360 That's correct? And how you're not close to that age, you're probably 44 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:45,800 closer to their grandparents' age. How's your communication? Well, well, I'm 45 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,599 trying to be nice about age is a number to me. It always has 46 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:53,680 been. Yeah, you're right, But I've been lucky enough to stay current 47 00:03:53,759 --> 00:04:00,879 with everything that I can. I try to stay current with music. It 48 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:03,120 doesn't please me as much as Frank Sinatra, but I still stay current with 49 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:09,199 it. And I try to keep myself at their level and try to understand 50 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,159 what they're going through, what their peer pressure is, and so forth, 51 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,920 because if I'm going to be an effective a teacher, and I am a 52 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:21,199 teacher, I've got to understand where they're coming from. And then we kind 53 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:28,759 of meet in the middle somewhere. So that would be the Beatles. If 54 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,079 that's the middle, we're going from the forties to twenty twenties. Well, 55 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:39,240 I mean just the things that they do recreationally that I didn't do, and 56 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,240 the things that they strive for that I didn't strive for. You know, 57 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,600 the PGA Tour, for instance, it was a very very small faction. 58 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,800 I didn't have any dreams of being I wanted to play competitive golf. But 59 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:59,480 you can become a zillionaire playing professional golf at when I played now, I 60 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:01,600 mean, you know, first prize when I played a lot of terms for 61 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,279 five thousand dollars was first prize, and you know, everything today is pretty 62 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:11,279 close to a million or more, and there was no endorsement because golf really 63 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,000 wasn't an important sport on television. It is now. I've been watching the 64 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:19,839 Ryder Cup and it's just it's amazing. It's like the Super Bowl. Really. 65 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,600 Yeah. Actually, the last episode that we did, Neil Sagabel, 66 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:30,759 author of The Drawing the Dunes, he was talking about golf in nineteen sixty 67 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,920 nine. The book is about the nineteen sixty nine Ryder Cup and the concession, 68 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:41,519 and he talks about the money to be earned even in the late sixties, 69 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,199 how little it was, and how difficult it was for American players to 70 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,560 go and play in overseas because it just didn't pay. I mean, it 71 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,399 cost you money to do it. Even if you won, you probably didn't 72 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:00,639 make very much money because of the expenses. So, you know, the 73 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,839 money is dramatically changed, and that's that's got to be thanks to television. 74 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:09,680 Oh, you know, people like Arnold Palmer kind of created the interest for 75 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:14,519 television to want to put golf on TV. I mean, you know, 76 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,079 he was really kind of the driving force, as did in modern day Tiger 77 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:26,040 Woods. Uh. And but I can remember we hosted two PGA events at 78 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,519 the club. I was at the Almaden Open and we had everybody there and 79 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,879 I mean, I'm I'm talking about venture Tony Lima, I mean the best 80 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:38,720 names in golf and first prizes it was five thousand dollars. So things have 81 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:46,079 changed dramatically, and and what they make and residuals nowadays from sponsors and so 82 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,879 forth. It's just staggering and become if you can make it to the tour 83 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,240 in last even a couple of years, you're you're a multi millionaire. And 84 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:57,879 that's crazy, right, right, Yeah, And the expenses went up to 85 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:03,680 Yeah. I'm fascinated about the team concept. When you're doing a college team 86 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:11,199 like this, how similar is it to team competition like we're experiencing the Ryder 87 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:17,480 Cup. Well, you know, the chemistry and camaradity is a big portion 88 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:24,879 of playing golf team wise. When we're out there playing, our egos get 89 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,839 involved sometimes and sometimes when we're having a bad day, we just let strokes 90 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:33,360 get away from us. We just cavalier with that. And as I have 91 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:40,680 to really really impress my students is that sometimes we're going to be forced to 92 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,839 keep their score and sometimes they could take an eighty and maybe keep it at 93 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:48,759 seventy six or seven, or they can let it go to eighty five. 94 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:56,639 You just can't. You can't waste strokes. You have to always believe that 95 00:07:56,759 --> 00:07:59,319 your score is going to count. You can never say, well, somebody 96 00:07:59,319 --> 00:08:03,639 else pick up slack because when we play in community college golf, we played 97 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:09,160 six player. Yeah, you know, six players, and we keep five 98 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:13,240 scores, so we can drop one. But you never know who's going to 99 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,279 get dropped when you're out there beating balls, and you can't assume that, 100 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:20,480 God, I'm having a bad day, somebody else had picked up the slack 101 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:28,360 for me, because lots of times you're incorrect. So the scoring is a 102 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:31,759 conglomerate of all the scores. It is a team sport in that way. 103 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,559 Yes, yes, how's the scoring done? Well, it's the total of 104 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:41,600 five scores, and you know that number, whatever that number may be, 105 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,159 is goes against the other teams. We're always trying to get for five players, 106 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,840 we're always trying to get somewhere near par, which is very difficult. 107 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:58,279 You know, usually the number one, two and three man will shoot near 108 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,159 power, sometimes even under. But it's the four and four or five and 109 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,639 six players that make or break you, because somebody could shoot sixty six or 110 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,639 sixty eight, but if you have to keep an eighty, that takes care 111 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:16,799 of that sixty eight. So we're we have to as a coach, I 112 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:22,159 know that when all the conference championships we won and all the state championships we 113 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,000 won, our bottom three were the driving force, not the top three. 114 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:35,919 Kind of like the starting rotation of a baseball team. It's your one, 115 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,440 two, and three guys that are going to carry the team, and you 116 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,320 hope for the best for number four and five, or even your batting lineup 117 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,440 for that matter. Right, So, do you only play one round of 118 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,840 golf? Well, in some cases, in some cases, we play two 119 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:54,600 rounds of golf when we play. When we play conference championship or regionals or 120 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:58,759 state championship, you play thirty six holes that day, and they're carrying their 121 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:03,840 backs and the weather gets pretty warm at that period of time. So you 122 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,840 know, it's a physical challenge on top of a mental challenge, which golf 123 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,440 is consistently right, Right, So when you're playing two rounds, is it 124 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:20,080 a conglomeration of all ten scores or is it two separate rounds In the conference 125 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:26,039 Championship, it's two different contest. In the regionals, it's thirty six holes, 126 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,159 so it's a total of all your scores for thirty six holes, and 127 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,360 it's best ball. It's best scoring. It's not match play or anything, 128 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,960 or four ball any of the other other games. It's metal play, right 129 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,639 right. Have you ever been involved in any type of competition that's similar to 130 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:48,960 the Ryder Cup. No, I have not. I have not. I 131 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,480 think probably everyone that's ever played golf professionally probably dreams of that. Now. 132 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,720 I've played some match play competition, but nothing like that, nothing that lasted 133 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:03,399 three days and a bunch of different kinds of game, from match play to 134 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:09,720 stroke play to partners. I've never been involved with that, but but it 135 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,159 sure would be nice. It would be a lot of fun. Oh yeah, 136 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:20,440 yeah. But I'm just fascinated about the team concept on playing and the 137 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:28,519 mental part of the team concept and how somebody can coach that. Well, 138 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,519 that's really the challenge, you know, when we play regular tournaments, whether 139 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,120 they're PGA Tour or sectional tournaments, professional, when you're playing, if you 140 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:41,360 miss a putt, no one's going to clap. In the Ryder Cup, 141 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,320 you've got two groups of people out there, those that are with you and 142 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,320 those that are against you, So that's an additional, additional challenge. And 143 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,840 then on top of it, you're playing for your country and some of those 144 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:58,559 rounds where you know, you hit the T shot and then the other fellow 145 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,279 plays or you hit that T shirt from now you have that pressure. Also, 146 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,279 I got to put it on the fairly. I don't want to put 147 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:11,240 my friend Bob in the weeds. So it's so different than typical competition, 148 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:18,360 and especially with the pride of being an American and winning, and you know, 149 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:22,320 we're big underdogs right now, but we're holding our own I'm very proud 150 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,200 of the guys. Well. By the time that people get a chance to 151 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,240 hear this, the whole thing will be over. So we really have no 152 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:31,799 idea what's going on. We're recording this on the Friday of the Ryder Cup 153 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:39,600 twenty fourteen Ryder Cup. If someone's listening later, Hi, welcome. Let's 154 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,480 change channels here a little bit and let's get into your wheelhouse, which is 155 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:54,879 swing mechanics, ball striking, the loss fundamental. You know, there's so 156 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,320 many different things and it made to you just come back to the same thing 157 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,519 over and over. But there's things that I see that go wrong or I 158 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,120 suffer from or see my playing partner suffer from that. I want to pick 159 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:11,399 your brain about and I want to start that with people who are continually hitting 160 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,519 behind the ball. I mean, you'll see a divot that is three to 161 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:20,840 four maybe five inches behind the ball, even with their especially with their driver. 162 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:26,240 What do you have to help us out with that? It's a really 163 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,559 easy answer, believe it or not. I'm glad you think so it is. 164 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,320 What's happening is that they're not transferring their weight as the first move of 165 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:37,639 the downswing. What they're doing is they're dropping the club down to the ball. 166 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,639 The old adage about staying behind the ball, that's true. In its 167 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:50,039 falls. You have to drive through the ball, and if you're a right 168 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,000 handed golfer, your right shoulder at your right hip have to go past that 169 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,399 ball. So imagine the ball was a line, and when you set up 170 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,639 to the golf ball, half of your bodies behind the line and half of 171 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:03,519 your body's forward of the line, with your head being in the center on 172 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:09,440 the dolls wing, You've got to get that part that's behind the ball forward 173 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:13,840 of the ball. In a rotational move. And when you hit behind the 174 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:18,200 ball, it's because you are behind the ball at impact and you can't be 175 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,879 You've got to be moving through it. When they say stay behind it when 176 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:28,879 you hit it. That's a millisecond, but you have to be moving through 177 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:33,399 it now. In the past, years gone by, or your head went 178 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,960 backwards because we swung and we finished in what we call a C position, 179 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:41,720 and everybody got a bad back from that. Yes, your head stayed back. 180 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,519 But you watch today's players. First of all, they don't finish with 181 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:50,879 their hands high. They finish with their hands low, and that's because they're 182 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:56,799 turning their body and rotating their core to the left of the target. So 183 00:14:56,159 --> 00:15:03,840 the width of the swing is increased from impact to finish. That's the big 184 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,000 change. And you can see that this has happened on the tour. Everyone 185 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,919 is talking about it. And I knowed it because like my new boys that 186 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,879 came in and I said, and I talked to them about the golf swing, 187 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:16,399 and there's two ways to do this. You can be an arm player. 188 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,919 You can be a body player. They all say, oh, no, 189 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,639 coach, we're body players. So I'm finding that I don't have to 190 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,559 I don't have to prove my point anymore. They already know that because they 191 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,000 watch the Mceilroys and the Coochers and all these players that in some fashion are 192 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:43,039 more rotary than sliding through the ball. So on setup your head. Should 193 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:50,559 your body be a little angled behind the ball or should you be completely upright? 194 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:54,039 I believe you should be centered to the golf ball. I don't want 195 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,480 my head behind the ball. There's an old same you want to stand above 196 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:00,840 the ball, but not behind it. Your head's like a bowling ball and 197 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,000 weight, and you know you've got to get to the left side, So 198 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,480 why put more weight on the right side to start it? Just you know, 199 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:14,120 it's unless you're a neuia of or somebody like that that can move quickly 200 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,960 to the left, you're gonna either have to slide or something to get over 201 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,720 there. And then that opens up another Pandora's box of bad shots. By 202 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:29,919 staying centered to the ball and not being so tilty with the shoulders. Although 203 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,600 some people teach that, and I'm not saying it's wrong me, I want 204 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,440 to be clear on that. It's just harder to do. You know, 205 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,799 you can shift your weight to the right and then shift it back to the 206 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:44,960 left, and if you can time that move prior to impact, you're going 207 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:48,240 to be just fine. But I don't think very many people can do that, 208 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:52,440 nor have the time to do that in a sense of practice. So 209 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,559 what I feel is what I think I saw with Ben Hogan, the changes 210 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,159 he made. He centered himself more to the ball at address, and then 211 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:08,079 his left side he turned level left. His left shoulder didn't go up, 212 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:14,640 it went around. And if you keep the left arm connected to the body, 213 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,519 you block the rotation of the arms so that you square the club by 214 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:21,839 the turn of the body instead of the rotation of the arms, and you're 215 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,759 playoff of really one axis. Getting back to hitting behind the ball, what 216 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,920 happens is that we fixate on the ball so much and instead of thinking about 217 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,200 where we're going with the golf club, and our body has to go because 218 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,519 it is going to go more forward than it was at address and it's turning. 219 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:48,279 So most people when they top the ball or hit behind the ball, 220 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:55,440 that's because their focus is too much on impact. Impact is happening, and 221 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,200 it's not something that you can just stand there and wait for. You've got 222 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,160 to be moving athletically, just like everything, when you throw a ball, 223 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,279 when you hit a tennis ball, when you throw a punch, everything is 224 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:11,240 moving forward in some form. In golf, that forwardness can't be on a 225 00:18:11,319 --> 00:18:14,559 line. It has to be a rotational move. So when I tell my 226 00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:17,440 people, you've got to get to the left side, and your way should 227 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,680 be at least at impact eighty percent on that left foot. The right foot 228 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,640 should just be driving forward. But most people, when they hit behind the 229 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,240 ball, it's just that they get anxious from the top and they hit down 230 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:36,240 on it too much and they don't transfer their weight. That's it. And 231 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:37,920 that's the same thing with a thin shot. It's the same exact thing. 232 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:51,559 Too focused on impact. You just said, well, I find that I'll 233 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:56,920 play better when I'm focused more on playing the course than playing the ball. 234 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Does that make any sense? Sure? Again, in my teaching, especially 235 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,000 with my boys that are going to be in competition, I tell them when 236 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,759 we practice, you have to pick out a you have to go through a 237 00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:14,519 pre shot routine. When you're practicing, you have to pick out a really 238 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:21,319 tight target so that you get yourself used to visually your target being very small. 239 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:26,480 Those things are very important in practicing. And then you have to you 240 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:30,240 have to use the ball as a point of reference to move through, but 241 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,559 not as something to hint, because if you're thinking hitting, you're going to 242 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,039 anticipate impact. And if you anticipate impact, your hands are going to tighten 243 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:41,960 it impact, your arms are going to pull back a little bit, and 244 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,039 you're either going to thin it or you're going to top it. But more 245 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:49,039 importantly, you're going to stay behind it. And that's not good. And 246 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:56,279 that was actually I was going to get to the concept of topping the ball, 247 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,400 of hitting where it's just going to roll because you've just I guess you 248 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,920 you're glancing the club over the top part of the ball. You're not making 249 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,000 solid contact, and it's just going to be a worm burner is just going 250 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,319 to be rolling on the ground. Yeah, and incorrectly it's diagnosed you looked 251 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,319 up, and I don't believe anybody looks up. I think that when they 252 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,279 tighten up their body, their shoulders hunch up a little bit, their arms 253 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:22,880 pull back towards them. But what is the core reason for that. The 254 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,279 core reason is that they're trying to hit the ball and the club head is 255 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:32,200 moving too fast. You know, there was an old saying, good players 256 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:37,519 sense where the ball is bad players stare at it. And I think that's 257 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:44,240 really a true statement. I like that good players sense where the ball is 258 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:51,920 right and bad players stare at the ball stare Oh man, great, I'm 259 00:20:51,920 --> 00:21:00,640 writing this one down. Sense Okay, what about you know your rotation, 260 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:07,799 your movement. How important is it to keep your lower body still? Try 261 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:11,680 to keep that from swaying back and forth. Where does that fall in? 262 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:15,720 Well, when you set to the ball, I believe, and everyone has 263 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:18,039 their own opinion on it, this is mine. I believe that you set 264 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:23,240 up with the ball so that your right hip is aligned on the inside of 265 00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:27,359 your right foot, on the end step of the foot. That creates a 266 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:33,039 kind of a brace. The first move of the swing is it's a combination 267 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,240 of your arms and shoulders working somewhat together. I like to take the club 268 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:41,720 back because I'm right handed. I like to take it back with my right 269 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:45,519 side. Don't buy into turn your left shoulder to your chin. I've never 270 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:49,000 bought that because it makes you move to the right a little bit. When 271 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:52,759 you pull your right shoulder back, your right shoulder is really going behind your 272 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:57,640 neck kind of towards the target and for those of you that have a limited 273 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:03,480 turn, if you work on turning your right shoulder behind your neck, you're 274 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,839 going to find that you're going to increase your shoulder turn twenty percent. When 275 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,440 I try. You know, when I try to illustrate turning from my left 276 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,480 side, I can't make as much turn as when I pull my right shoulder 277 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:22,200 back. By pulling my right shoulder back, and also it also stops the 278 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,680 feeling of moving back to the right foot, so I can stay inside that 279 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,119 brace. And in fact, as I turn the right shoulder back, my 280 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,319 hip is going to respond back also, and the inclination of my right foot, 281 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,640 because my hip is on the inside of the instep of my right shoe, 282 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:42,720 the inclination is going to steep in a bit. And if you look 283 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,880 at all the great players that lasted a long time, you'll look at the 284 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,519 right The right leg is not perpendicular. The right leg is steep. What 285 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,200 do you find to be the most common flaw that you have to help correct 286 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:03,400 moving back from the ball head, moving with the shoulder turn. I have 287 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,440 a PE class, and I did the College of Favor this year. They 288 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,079 didn't have an instructor, so there's about thirty five people in the class, 289 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:17,519 and most of them never hit a golf ball. So but a lot of 290 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:19,200 young boys that are, you know, they've played baseball and so forth. 291 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,160 So I teach them to grip in a group, you know, a group 292 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,920 setting. Obviously it's not going to be perfect, but we get close. 293 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:32,880 And then I watched them hit the balls individually, and the first thing initially 294 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,920 is that they're they're reaching back for power, they're swaying off that right side, 295 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,880 and when they hit the ball, the majority of their wits on the 296 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,960 right foot, and the ball slices or they top it, and I have 297 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:48,799 to get up, and I say, look, I'm an old guy. 298 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:52,920 Look at a little effort I make, and I can hit the seven one 299 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,519 hundred and sixty yards, and I go ahead and bang the ball out there, 300 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:59,000 and they look at me like, how do you do that? But 301 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,880 once they understand that they have to be centered to the ball and then through 302 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,680 the ball, then all of a sudden, you watch these kids whack a 303 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:10,720 ball out there. It's crazy how far they can hit it. So I 304 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,160 know one thing I've heard more and more Turing Pross saying, I want to 305 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:21,200 take the timing out of my game, and I want to take the compensations 306 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,160 out of my game. I want to be able to even when my feet 307 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,119 are in the fire, because I'm playing for something I dearly want. I 308 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,400 want to still be able to play well when you're timing the rotation of the 309 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,559 golf club with your hands and forearms. That's a heck of a lot harder 310 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:44,599 under pressure than rotating your body and keeping your arm connected to the body. 311 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,920 Is it easy to do. No, it's hard because it goes against your 312 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,599 natural instincts. But once you get it, I promise you that you'll not 313 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,960 only hit the ball farther because you'll hit a square them more often, but 314 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,680 your shot dispersion is going to be much narrower. You're gonna have a lot 315 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:03,599 less side spin on the ball, so when you push it, you won't 316 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,480 push it with a cut or pull it with a draw. And that's you 317 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,599 know, that's what happens to everybody. And the better you are as a 318 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,839 player, the more you fight the draw or the hook. When you first 319 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,920 start out, it's a slice for everybody for a while, but if you're 320 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,680 focusing on playing the game under pressure, you need something to block that hook 321 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,599 without making a block move in a sense, So you need something that traps 322 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,000 that club square. And this is the only way that I know how. 323 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:40,079 And I know that there's a couple of players out on tour that maybe are 324 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,480 reluctant to do this, but if they did it, they would hit some 325 00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:45,720 fairways every now and then. Come on, name names. No, I'm 326 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:51,519 not going to name any name. They're not listening. I promise. Who 327 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,880 would you think does that? Well? I think I think anybody that's an 328 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,440 armed player. I think Phil who is probably one of the most talented players, 329 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,640 has said the game when it comes to all the kinds of shots, 330 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,880 he hiss. But he's got a terrible record of driving the ball in play. 331 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,200 And so does Tiger. I mean, and it blows my mind that 332 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,039 Tiger doesn't because the guys are golfing genius. Also, he knows he doesn't 333 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,319 need anybody to teach him to play golf. That's I think that's probably the 334 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,799 biggest problem is he's ever had, you know, I think Butch did him 335 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:25,720 a favor by shortening his swing a little bit. But Tiger knows how to 336 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:30,079 play. And when you get too conscious of how to do something, when 337 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:36,400 you're purposely trying to do something, you get awkward. Everybody does. I 338 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,240 think if Tiger would go woodshed, and I think he's kind of inclined. 339 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,359 He's been saying things like, I may not hire somebody, I may go 340 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,680 out there and figure it out myself. If he would do that like Hogan 341 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,519 did and all the great players, where you own your own swing, because 342 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:53,039 how they can instruct or feel what you're feeling, I mean, it's not 343 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,359 possible. So you can lead them to you can lead them to some dynamic 344 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,480 moves, or you can say, hey, you're swaying, you're doing this, 345 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,400 but there when you get to be tired of woods, come on, 346 00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,240 this guy is one of the greatest players of all time. But once you 347 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,759 get doubt, you lose that mojo, you lose that feeling that you're going 348 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,279 to win, and then you start questioning everything, every move you're making. 349 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:18,160 You've got somebody barking on instructions. That's a road to nowhere, as far 350 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,920 as I'm concerned,