WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:07.599 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacon Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:14.759 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your Most christ Possessions, katz R 3 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.120 two SID and i Heeart Radio Station. They're good afternoon, everybody, welcome 4 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:22.960 to I on the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera, He's 5 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:27.679 jagonzos and then with us today is right? Guy, Jason? Are doing 6 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:29.679 Jason? I'm good. I'm good. Are you guys? All right? 7 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:36.799 You're nervous if this show goes astray? It's great? Jason? Yeah, 8 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:39.359 Well, Jason, you know what the thing you got going for is you 9 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:43.520 can't do any worse running the boards than I do. If you have comfort 10 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:45.600 in that, yeah, you'll be fine. You'll be fine. What do 11 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.679 I know. I don't even touch those big I can't tell these are red 12 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:54.600 blue? Oh the reasons I don't touch him. Good afternoon, everybody. 13 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.520 Big day to day. I will know in a couple of hours whether Aaron 14 00:00:57.560 --> 00:00:59.560 want to get some recruit or not. You know what, I hate it. 15 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.000 It's a big day because of that, right right, We've talked about 16 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.200 that before. I hate the fact that you know there's all these people out 17 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:10.760 there, you know, sitting at the computers waiting to either jump on Tommy 18 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.239 or tell us that they change your mind. And Tommy as the greatest recruiter 19 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.000 in the history of all man, we're gonna, oh, he did a 20 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:21.400 great job. But but but but yeah, if if he did, and 21 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:26.120 then for a decision by an eighteen year old kid man, this is upsetting 22 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:30.840 to me. I'm not gonna say I was dreading today's show, but I 23 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:34.200 was dreading for you know, you just said you missed days being a reporter 24 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:37.959 for certain things. This is that time because we have a lot to talk 25 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:40.560 to. Steven Steve, I was gonna call you, Stephen Steve. Even 26 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:45.439 when I was a reporter, I hated these stories. I hated these stories. 27 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:48.799 Why is uh because the kids? Yeah, no, no, I 28 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.599 hate recruiting because we were like adult professionals, college degrees chasing these kids. 29 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.239 I totally agree with you and Jason take notes of this. The good thing 30 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.000 is most of them tweet their own formation before we were tracking him down. 31 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.239 We'll find out via phone and all that I hated it too, no question. 32 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:08.120 And you know what do we don't know until they come here and they 33 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:12.000 play here. Yeah, you could have how many how many bus have there 34 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.560 been or you know, buses maybe too strong a word, but guys who 35 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:17.759 didn't live up to their reputations. Well, one that, you know, 36 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.400 the one that I the one that the one that bothers me most about this 37 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.199 Racorean thing was the Michael Bates. I had to follow that one, Okay, 38 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:29.759 I mean, I'm chasing him the show. I'm gonna getther, I'm 39 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:31.759 chasing him around town. I ran into his brother, Mario. Mario, 40 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:37.120 what's Michael? Do you know? And and I'm I'm like parked across the 41 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:44.479 street from their apartment that over by am FI. This is seven times. 42 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:49.520 But Carter Bryant, the the all everything, uh A player out of California's 43 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.120 supposed to announce at five o'clock today, and everybody's poised and rated to pounce 44 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:58.599 on what he's gonna do. I'm guessing we'll see it on on the two 45 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:04.800 four seven Sports. Yeah, we'll broadcast whatever we'll find out. I guess 46 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.280 we'll talk about it tomorrow, but you know, we're writing a story about 47 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.919 it. Last night, I was out with some guys and be here I 48 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:14.800 want just not breaking news. Jason, So don't worry about it. It's 49 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.680 uh pelle going to Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking, oh, okay, 50 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:21.199 I mean it was a blip on the radar, right right, Yeah, 51 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:23.960 it was okay, good Jason Gardner did it. A few others find out. 52 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.919 I mean, the guy's gathering information that tells me the really smart guy 53 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.159 says, Okay, I'm gonna go find I'm gonna go through this process. 54 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:35.080 I'm gonna find out what the NBA scouts, NBA people want to know so 55 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.560 that I can when I do this next year for reals, that that I 56 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.840 know what I'm I know what's gonna happen, what I need to do, 57 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:46.879 because well, what he needs to do is get better. It's uh well 58 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.560 duh right, yeah that's good. Yeah, I guess that's basic. Get 59 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.080 better. He didn't have a stellar a year. I mean, come on, 60 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.680 if you writed his year, Jason, did you watch enough basketball? 61 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.520 The Great Disease Year? Okay? Good? Good? If you don't, 62 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:01.280 don't do it, yeah, I would say he had a seven, seven 63 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.520 and a half. Maybe he didn't play well they moved him out of the 64 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:09.000 East. Well he didn't, you know, he didn't feel he didn't look 65 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:12.759 comfortable. You know as as a starter, like like there was just too 66 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.520 much that it was just better for him to come in, you know, 67 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.720 get see a flow of the game and then get in and respond to that. 68 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.279 And some guys are like that, yeah no. And then he did 69 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:23.759 better in the role that he came off, but he still didn't hit the 70 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.920 shots like he needed to. Uh, they didn't have any paris. He 71 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:31.160 hit some good ones though, ones, you know, okay, okay, 72 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.240 six foot eight, he should be doing that, but they needed a guy 73 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:38.560 on the perimeter to hit some shots in addition to whoever else was going to 74 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:42.959 try it. He was not consistent. And isn't that he was not consistent 75 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:49.000 And don't doesn't this team have need that who was consistent? Exactly? I 76 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:54.040 mean Courtney Ramy goes off for you know, for six three pointers in the 77 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:58.000 game, and then he doesn't get anything. We tell the whole story he 78 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.480 does that, you say he's the best guy. You don't see him again, 79 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.680 kiss the death bad, don't say, don't let him know that, 80 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:08.480 Hey, Jason's pretty good. Then you're gonna go to Chris Steve So So 81 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:11.680 I had a picture on my fantasy football baseball team. All right, I'd 82 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.279 had him all season long and he had been crap, just complete crap. 83 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.319 You got rid of him. I let him go day before yesterday. Yesterday 84 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.480 he goes like six innings, four hits, no runs, eight strikeouts. 85 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:26.879 It's like, what the hell, Jose Burials from the from the Blue Jays. 86 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.040 How many? How many times you have to get that you have a 87 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:40.120 curse? An exorcist guy? Yeah right, I gotta go see like the 88 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.839 rattlesnake guy from Alabama. Remember in the movie Alabama, the guy with the 89 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:49.279 rattles or the guy from the Major League with the bat. Oh yeah, 90 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:54.800 snoo yeah, one of those guys. Yeah, but he was voodoo. 91 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:58.879 That's different. You know, I'm different from Catholic. I can't go cover 92 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.120 all your bases. I can't go we do. I gotta go see a 93 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.079 good on that you know. Maybe you know where I need to go. 94 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:10.120 I need to go to uh right there on on uh it's on church right 95 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.279 there by the elm Nuto, the little r right there. I need to 96 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.839 go light a candle. Go get a candle and put a little vix on 97 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:18.480 it while you read, do some little bigs. That's a home cure for 98 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:24.959 us. Hispanics vix. Yeah, you get cancer VII, vix and vix 99 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.279 and some lemon. Let's see a prayer. Hey, but we haven't been 100 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.240 talking about basketball. We'll tell our guests or our listeners who are guests. 101 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.800 All right, I've been wanting to get her on for a while, and 102 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:41.199 we finally did um um Tally bonds the one hundred meters high hurdler at Arizona. 103 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.800 She has set the school record like three times. I was wondering, 104 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.240 Now you know it makes sense. Yeah, so we wanted to get her 105 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.040 on, and she's having a great season. Yeah, they've got a meat 106 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:53.360 coming up at home this weekend. So if you want to videos of her, 107 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.800 she's just man, she's just yeah, really good. Yeah, you 108 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.920 think she's gonna get smoked. No killing, killing, So we'll have her 109 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.639 on at three fifteen and then, uh, if you were if you saw 110 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:08.360 our social media, it's schedule Bruce Pasco for four or fifteen, but he's 111 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:11.000 gonna come on at three thirty five. He's got to get zoned in and 112 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:15.920 ready for this Carter Bryant announcement. So Bruce will come on at three thirty 113 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.560 five and we'll just talk what we've been talking about. It. I mean, 114 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.879 he doesn't know, probably anymore more than the rest of us what's gonna 115 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.279 happen with this. But I want to find out, Bruce, what does 116 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.120 your inbox look like with all this stuff for you know, talking about Tommy 117 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.759 and what are the fans saying to you? Because he gets more of that, 118 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.279 sure, more of that stuff than we do. The one thing about 119 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.959 it, he's very even killed at least he is on the outside. We 120 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:38.759 should travel together and forever and night used to be kind of like, you 121 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:44.639 know, oh, God puts wrong Steve, so so he's gonna probably be 122 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:46.279 saying, oh, no, it's okay, you know whatever. But yeah, 123 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.600 I get a lot of crazy emails you don't want to see. That's 124 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:53.480 why he's lasted so long, right, and he's still he's he doesn't look 125 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.000 like he's been He doesn't look like he's got the hard miles that you and 126 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.240 I know, I know he does it right, so he doesn't. Yeah, 127 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.839 well he's get them been to stuff. But I think and the coaches 128 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.079 you know, don't give him, uh, don't take it easy on him. 129 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.560 They don't. Tommy really calls him out a lot. I think it's 130 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:13.480 more like you no, not a bad yeah. Yeah, but I think 131 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.040 Bruce is loving what he's doing. Yeah, so it pays the bills in 132 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:24.160 a time when the four now with the newspaper business don't listen to this part 133 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.399 of it. In terms of the newspaper business, you know what a newspaper 134 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.440 is, right, Yeah, Fewer people are getting getting it. Yeah. 135 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.080 Yeah. Have you have you seen have you seen that picture of the newsroom 136 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.159 that Yeah, the old I'm in the background of that, are you. 137 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.759 Yeah, the hair you can tell. You can tell by the big helmet 138 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.440 hair. It's like nineteen eighty something. It was in the eighties, yeah, 139 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.000 because I remember some of those guys and I wasn't. I think I 140 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.399 was in sports at that time. But for some reason, I'm working at 141 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:56.279 a computer in the news area, probably hacking away telling of those big tandem 142 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.039 tea they were called VDTs video display terminals, big old things. But the 143 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.320 good old working over there. So I'm in the background of that phot don't 144 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:07.240 have to go both nostalgic. You know all those people, uh not even 145 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:11.960 a fraction anymore, Yeah, who aren't there and some who aren't even alive 146 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.240 anymore. Um, But that that that's what the newsroom looked like and it's 147 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:20.320 very cool, even way before they redesigned it with what it was when I 148 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.519 left. That look right there, that's what it is. I think most 149 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.600 newsrooms looked like that, because remember like all the president I went to the 150 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.960 Washington Post news from once and it looked like that. It looked like that, 151 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.480 like all the President's men, and uh, you know other newsrooms that 152 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.720 you know that you went to, they you know, they would look like 153 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:45.000 that. The La Times saw the news room at in Fresnow and just people 154 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.960 busy working and kind of locked in. You know. It's funny because my 155 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:50.600 wife and I have this thing. She loved, you know, we both 156 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:54.000 work from home. We've both got our home offices at home. She loves 157 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.679 it dead silent. I gotta have noise. I don't function well if there's 158 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.559 not all this noise like you would have in the news room. Let's a 159 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.200 hint to you to be quiet when she's around. We do have a hostile 160 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:11.320 work environment over there, sometimes kind of interested. Okay, So those those 161 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.639 two second half of the second hour, we'll have the lot calls, hopefully 162 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.000 because we'll have breaking news from Jason right his first crack at it, and 163 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:22.879 then four fifteen. We'll see what we do and then maybe we'll start getting 164 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.039 prepped for the Carter announcement. Right, let's see what happens. Hey man, 165 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.679 that that three team two foot put part part wouldn't wouldn't work last night 166 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.039 with the Celtics losing. No, no, I didn't bet anything tonight. 167 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.799 I have, yeah, only because but because the numbers are better. What 168 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.919 do you have tonight? I just wrote it down. Um, I went 169 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:50.639 with the Warriors. They're underdog, I think. Yeah, Warriors, Bucks 170 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:56.799 who need to win, and Memphis against the Lakers. M Yeah pretty good. 171 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:00.480 Yeah, interesting, what do you think I like it? M money 172 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:05.960 lines all those yeah, money lines are all well three teen money lines got 173 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.320 three three to one. Yeah. I like the numbers all right, yeah, 174 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.440 my my, my sketch sketchy when his Warriors. I may have to 175 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.600 look at the sketchy when his Warriors. Yeah, still kind of hurt, 176 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.080 so that should be yeah, but but but if but if he's not. 177 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.440 Warriors can't win a game on the road. They just can't. Yeah they 178 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.480 are they they're a plus then right they're plus? Yeah, yeah, that's 179 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.440 why that's why that's why they went with it. Okay, not much, 180 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.600 you know, twenty bucks. Yeah, so you see, do you see 181 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:39.799 what's continued to go on? And not surprising with Dion and now the parents 182 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.120 and the players are ragging on him, just ragging on him. So I 183 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:46.039 don't know what they thought was gonna happen. Said, I'm bringing my own 184 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:50.080 lug. And that's where the stories began. And you say, well, 185 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:56.919 you know, parents, parents and players are they're out there publicly. Once 186 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:58.600 the door was closed the baby, they can say whatever they want, that's 187 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.879 what they Yeah. Wow, no, I haven't seen that optical look look 188 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:07.440 that. Look that up because you know, I mean, I I get, 189 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.840 I mean, look at what did what did the jetfish have right? 190 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:15.039 Something like fifteen? What he said fifteen? But I mean his first year 191 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.399 when he came in, I mean, the like fifty percent of the roster. 192 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.000 I could I couldn't remember that something like that was a big number. 193 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:26.759 And but you know, there comes a point when there's so many guys leaving, 194 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.919 so many people leaving the night, you're thinking it's more than just you 195 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:33.480 know, well I want to get some new guys in here. It's more 196 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.240 about well, let me say this to you, because you've had a number 197 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.720 of jobs. I've had a few sins of paper clothes with new and even 198 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.559 the paper when new people come in to run the ship. How many times 199 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:46.879 you say I need to get the hell out of here? Will I? 200 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.279 Yeah, yeah, so you do that. Not that exactly happened to me. 201 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:54.200 I said I need to get the hell out of here. Then the 202 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:00.759 next thing they said was you need to get How many time happened at you 203 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.559 or anywhere else where the new A d comes in or did you president say 204 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.120 you know, we're gonna do things my way. Yeah, and the people 205 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.799 are coming and you don't fit. You're not Yeah, you're not there right, 206 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.679 Yeah, No, that that is the way it is. But I 207 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.120 mean when when you're talking about you know, I think I saw that there's 208 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:24.879 like twelve scholarship players left from last year from where at Colorado, oh probably 209 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.360 football football, where they have eighty five scholarship players, it's like twelve scholarship 210 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:33.000 players left. He does have the number one recruiting class of chancellors coming in, 211 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.360 but I don't know if they know what they're in for. You know, 212 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:37.399 we'll see what they and and he seems good enough. I mean, 213 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.879 he's inspiring with all this stuff. That, he says, But who knows 214 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.000 what's happening inside the house? Right? No one ever knows when the when 215 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.879 when the doors were shut? What the heck's going on? Yeah? Has 216 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.279 your dad whipped out the belt and started beating me with it? Or right? 217 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:56.559 You don't know, you don't know? Blink twice if you're safe, 218 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:01.519 if you're not? Yeah you Uh. On the one hand, you know, 219 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.960 I want to get Brian Holly, we gotta out. On the other 220 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.399 hand, I'm like, what do our do our listeners care about? What? 221 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.639 No? Yes, no, we're interested, But to think about us, 222 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.200 we might have to wait a while before the dust is maybe a little 223 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.279 busy, right before the book dust settles here, we'll see what happened. 224 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:24.240 Did you see Tom Duddleston uh put it posted something on Twitter today talking about 225 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.440 if you are a reporter and you're referring to him as coach Prime, you 226 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.639 need to get the hell out of the business. You don't belong in this 227 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.799 business. So he demands that, right. No, Well, yeah, 228 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.120 in fact, I think Brian talked about that, right, Coach Prime. 229 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.320 Well, it's just it's just Prime or or or Dion or whatever. But 230 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.360 I remember the first one of the press. First press conference, he talked 231 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.799 about that. Yeah, it's like coach Loot. No, no, really 232 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.639 no Lot yeah yeah, and Dick was Dick Dick, Yeah, yeah, 233 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.679 everybody Jerry was Jerry. All Right, let's let's hit the road. We're 234 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.480 gonna take a break. We'll be back and we'll have Telly Bonds, hurdler 235 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.039 from Arizona who's had even a hell of a year. So let's take our 236 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:11.480 break and we'll be right back. 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And you're having a great year. Yeah, 295 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:49.680 we can say sound it sounds like you're more than good, having an 296 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.799 incredible year. Just tell us a little bit about first of all, you 297 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.759 know, coming in, uh, did you have a sense that you were, 298 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.599 you know, getting gonna get to the the the places that you've gone 299 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:08.920 this year. Yeah. So honestly, this whole year has been pleasant surprise 300 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:15.759 for myself. If you would have asked me a couple of years ago where 301 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.000 I would have been, I would have never guessed it. It's where I 302 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:23.480 am today. It's just been an incredible season. I've been breaking records and 303 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:32.160 it's just been such a good season. So far, and it's just I 304 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.799 mean, I'm sad for it to end. I think it's going so well, 305 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.640 but yeah, I'm just trying to enjoy it while it lasts. Lest 306 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.880 you say, kind of surprised, but you shouldn't be, and as much 307 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.200 as you must have worked your butt off to get to this point, because 308 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:55.519 this just doesn't happen overnight. Yeah, in a way, I'm not surprised, 309 00:20:55.640 --> 00:21:00.640 but also it's just like I can't really believe what I'm doing. Of 310 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.680 course, it's taken a bunch of hard work, and I haven't always been 311 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:10.759 at the level I am at UM. I started off at a mountain lest 312 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:15.279 school UM, a little lower level UM, and I was never really a 313 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:22.799 standout, and it took me about four years finally breakthrough my shell. I 314 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:29.119 think I'm a late bloomer in a sense. And it's just ever since I've 315 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:33.240 been at Arizona has been just an amazing experience. I love the coaches here 316 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.759 and they've helped me reach my potential. And so with their knowledge and the 317 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.039 resources I have at Arizona and my hard work, i think it's just been 318 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:47.079 like the perfect recipe UM. So I've been able to achieve some great things 319 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:51.839 here, So does something go on, you know, with your training or 320 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.480 that kind of gives you a sense that you're you're maybe on the verge of 321 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.200 something like this, because I mean, I mean, your body just feel 322 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.880 like, Okay, I'm about to be able to do these kinds of things. 323 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.880 Or you said you were a little surprised, but not so what you 324 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.519 know, I mean, I don't know. There comes a time when you 325 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:14.279 feel like, okay, I can do this and you know your body is 326 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:19.359 capable of it. When did that happen for you? Yeah, I say 327 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:26.599 at the end of last year is when I really started to like recognize myself 328 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:32.079 as an elite athlete. I have had a couple of injuries in the past, 329 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:34.960 and so my body has been feelings better in the past two years, 330 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:42.200 so that's probably helped a lot. And then I think I know that, 331 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:49.160 um like, when you have a breakthrough, it it comes frothingficancy. So 332 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:53.599 I've been I ran this like almost the exact same time every time last year 333 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:57.680 and how the later hurdle and so when that happens, you kind of know 334 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.359 that of breakthrough is coming. And so it finally came for me last year 335 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:10.599 at the outdoor NCAA Championships and I finally was able to run down and then 336 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.319 the same things happened that year. I've been pretty consistent and I just had 337 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.759 a big breakthrough and so I've been able to run that time as well. 338 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.519 Again, so I'm hoping for another breakthrough. Sin So, so you mentioned 339 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.480 I can't find it, though I don't think it's a surprise. And I 340 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.680 use that word again, given that you were the Gatorade what Player of the 341 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:33.000 Year or Athlete of the Year in seventeen, it seems so long ago, 342 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:36.759 right, six years ago? But then, so where did you go originally? 343 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.720 Yeah, so I went to Utah State University for my first fever years 344 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:47.920 and then I heered the transfer portal at the end of my sophomore year and 345 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:52.720 then ended up taking Arizona. I picked Arizona because my older sister actually ran 346 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:59.400 here and he was an athlete for coach Fred Harvey, and so I knew 347 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.720 what he was all about. I knew his goals, I knew his coaching 348 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.440 style, and and that's something that I really wanted. So I decided to 349 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.960 make the decision its answer, and it's honestly, it's one of the best 350 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:12.759 decisions I've ever made. Okay, so tell you them. This is the 351 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:17.759 dumbest question you'll get all week. Uh, we've been talking to nil and 352 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:23.160 transfer portal. You're you're a product of it. Tell us why are students 353 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:27.079 doing it? And um, why are they? Because they're doing They used 354 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:30.200 to do it all the time, of course, but now it's like every 355 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:36.920 day something's happening. What's the major reasons the major reasons for the transportal? 356 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.880 Sorry that what you said? Yeah? And why are so many kids doing 357 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:45.759 it? Because it because it can. So I'm like everybody's experiences that for 358 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:52.559 like for me, I just think that not every school is for every person. 359 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.839 And I don't think you actually figure it out until you get there and 360 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:02.039 you're in the environment. You really get another coaches is in the your teammates, 361 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:06.440 and you know the way that they train and and just sometimes you don't 362 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:10.480 mesh with it and you need to make a change. Um. And so 363 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.559 that's what happened to me. I loved my time cost day, I did, 364 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.279 um, But after two years I realized, you know, it was 365 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.359 time to move on and find somewhere else that fit me better. And what 366 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:26.759 I wanted out of my track a gill career. So let me ask you 367 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.160 this, because that was that was that going into the COVID year or during 368 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:34.200 the COVID year? When when when did you transfer? Yeah? So iran 369 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:45.200 Um, that was before COVID um and then yeah, so I you thought 370 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:48.920 they ended up not signing my my transfer papers, so I had to sit 371 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:55.480 out an additional year when I transferred UM. And then the following year after 372 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.880 that, I had stress fractures, so I had to sit out for medical 373 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.720 reasons, and then I finally got to compete for you of a, my 374 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:10.240 first year was last year, so kind of crazy. I've been here for 375 00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:14.000 four years at Arizona, but I've only been competing for two. Yeah, 376 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.519 and that's how I'm out in my sixth year right now. There's something like 377 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.920 that happening make you put, i don't know, maybe put a little more 378 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:23.799 into into your time. When you you know, you had to sit out 379 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:27.200 all that time you transferred and you didn't get a chance to compete. You 380 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.880 said, Okay, I've got two I've got I'm here four years, but 381 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.000 I've only got two years to compete it, you know, just add a 382 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:38.880 little incentive or motivation for you to to you know, work a little harder 383 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.359 or whatever that might be. Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I 384 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.759 wish I could have had my full four years here at Arizona, but that's 385 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.240 just not how it happened. Um. And after sitting out in two years, 386 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.960 I mean, I'm such a contitor. I've love to compete in race 387 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.079 and that's my favorite thing. So to sit on the sidelines for two years 388 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:04.440 was really hard for me. So when it was finally time to get back 389 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:10.000 out there and start running against people, it was just like a fire was 390 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.200 lit in me and I was I was just so ready to go. So 391 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:18.160 I think sitting out um for two years has actually benefited me in a way. 392 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.000 Um. I didn't think it was a good thing at the time, 393 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:23.359 but now looking back, I mean, I wouldn't have had it any other 394 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:27.799 way. I'm older, I'm stronger now, and I'm glad to have my 395 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:33.640 six year at this time rather two years ago or you know, my senior 396 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.640 year two years ago. So it all worked out for me, all right. 397 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.279 So you guys, have you guys have a meet here on Saturday? 398 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.519 Um? Are you you know, are you trying to go out and beat 399 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.599 your best time every time? Or you're kind of pasting yourself a little bit, 400 00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.519 you know, to get ready for pack twelves and for nationals. How 401 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.960 does it you know, how does an athlete, an elite athlete like that, 402 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.960 like you, you know, prepare for something like that? What you 403 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.400 know, how do you compete to make sure that you're ready for when, 404 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.119 as you said, you probably want to win a national championship, right, 405 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:08.240 yeah, of course. Um for me, I mean I think because it's 406 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.480 such a short race, it's only one hundred meters. I mean, every 407 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:18.720 time I go out there, I'm trying to run it's possible and is really 408 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:26.559 good at like preparing my body the week before a race so that I have 409 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.160 the ability to beat my times. And um, so we just kind of 410 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.240 look at it's week by week and decide, you know, should be train 411 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.319 hard or should we take this week off and so I can be prepared. 412 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.480 But yeah, the main goal is to win that NCDL championship and I'm super 413 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.160 excited and I'm ready to go already. Well, good luck to rush the 414 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.599 way. Yeah, thank you telling me congratulations so far? Right, and 415 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:55.039 uh we'll see you know, see how you do at NC doable as thank 416 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:56.599 you so much. 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That's the way 479 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.799 you gotta be ready, right, right? So is it in the grand 480 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.319 scheme of things because we all hear things or whatever? How big is him 481 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:29.880 committing or not committing? Well, I mean there's still two thy twenty four, 482 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:31.559 so I guess you could argue it's not that big a deal. But 483 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.440 certainly if you're an Arizona fan, you would like to see some recruiting momentum 484 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.279 whatever year we're talking about, because it's been a little bit tough so far 485 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:44.119 in twenty three. So, you know, and he's he's you know, 486 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.480 he's really kind of Carter Bryan's really kind of morphed into a five star player, 487 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.319 I think possibly because of COVID and he got hurt his freshman year and 488 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.440 nobody really knew how good he was, and then he was kind of looking 489 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.720 like a four star guy when Tommy Lloyd offered him about a year ago, 490 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.759 and since then he's played better and better, and you know, I think 491 00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:07.359 they're optimistic. Um, but you know, you know, in the nil 492 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.840 era, you just never know what's going on and you know what's going to 493 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.079 happen or whatever. But so, you know, yeah, I don't know 494 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.079 to answer a question that it's a big deal if they get him, and 495 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.159 probably still is a big deal if they don't. Well, I was gonna 496 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.960 say, which is it, which is a bigger deal if they don't get 497 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.800 him or they do, because with all the you know, with the you 498 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.880 know, these two guys that didn't and then that didn't come, and then 499 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.480 the chatter that's been going on out there, you know from some you know, 500 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:36.320 unreliable media guys, you not being one of them, who just they 501 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:37.400 said, well, you know, it doesn't look like he can recruit. 502 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.519 He's terrible, you know, I mean, so is it what it is? 503 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.880 It gonna be a bigger deal if he doesn't come, That's a great 504 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:51.360 question, And it might actually be slightly bigger if he doesn't only because and 505 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.800 I don't mean that to say, well that's an indication they can't recruit, 506 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:59.440 but just as a guy that they were literally the first team to offer him 507 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.480 at the high level they've been in on him heavily. He's been you know, 508 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.360 the number one target probably in this class in twenty four. They have 509 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.360 a good relationship. You know, everything's clicking, so if it, you 510 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.920 know, if it doesn't, if it doesn't happen for some reason, it 511 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.519 does make you wonder what is going on. But then again, you know, 512 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.480 these are crazy times and anything can happen, and you know, and 513 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.920 it's still a year before he would be on campus, and so certainly that 514 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.119 gives Arizona time to recover. Although you know, in this day and age, 515 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.559 one of the problems you have when you're recruiting and you lose somebody, 516 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.880 as you guys know, is you maybe don't recruit other people at that position, 517 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.400 or you don't recruit as many, or you don't recruit as hard. 518 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.719 You put it, You put a lot of your eggs in that basket, 519 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:45.400 and if it doesn't happen, then you really got to scramble. And I 520 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.639 think that that's what people are really. I think fearful with the Ryan Mhart 521 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.119 situation with him going to a dagger that you know, possibly they had too 522 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.400 many eggs thinking that he was coming. I never kind of bought into that 523 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.119 that he was coming. For sure, it seemed to be a big thing, 524 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:06.519 you know, but but certainly, you know, you know, because 525 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.960 of the hot possibility that he would come and then Kirk Priesta leaving, it 526 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:13.360 seems it seemed like that was a natural thing to happen, and it didn't 527 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.519 happen. So that, uh, you know, combined with the fact there's 528 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.159 been a lot of quietness lately, you know, makes people who follow recruiting 529 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.679 wonder what is going on? You know, so you should should rout you 530 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.599 cover day today. One of the things we've been doing almost day to day 531 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.719 for the last week is complaining about the fans that have been complaining. You 532 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.320 know, we're complaining about the complaining. I'm sure you get it. You 533 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.400 get the emails, you get some calls. What are you hearing from just 534 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:43.320 the general public? Well, you know, I mean, it's it's hard 535 00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.840 because if you if you go on the message board or Twitter, you see 536 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.920 a very extreme version of it. And you know, honestly, I think 537 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.360 there's a lot of fans out there who don't really care, you know, 538 00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.480 and aren't too worried about it. They're just going to come out and see 539 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.360 who's there at the Red blue game and root for them. Then you know, 540 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.559 like I think that the recruiting is like it strikes me it's kind of 541 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:09.360 like hockey or some other kind of really niche things where not that in any 542 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.760 people followed, but the people who do are super passionate about it. And 543 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.239 we know that from our analytics. We know when we write about recruiting, 544 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:22.039 people hit it, they love it. But I don't, you know, 545 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.159 I don't think that that's everybody. I just think the people who do love 546 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:28.280 it hit it a lot because they want to know everything about recruiting. So 547 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.360 it's just it's just a really really weird deal. And you know, um, 548 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.440 you know, and I think maybe maybe some of this is because they 549 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.559 lost to Princeton and you know, it's just been a it's just been a 550 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.000 really empty spring. If you're an Arizona fan and you're just you're just hoping 551 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.599 for some good news and and and then you hear some bad news on the 552 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.559 recruiting trail, it just it just comes together. I mean, you know, 553 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:51.239 somebody's made. I think the point has been made. The Yukon's losing 554 00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.039 guys listening right well, you know, I don't think their fans are maybe 555 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:59.679 quite as upset because they just want so it's um, you know, it's 556 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.719 it's a tough deal, but it's it's it's it's recruiting. I'll tell you 557 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.960 what. It's interesting, there's no question about that. Well that's a really 558 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.760 good point, and neither Steve Right thought of. So that makes you way 559 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.519 smarter than either one of us. But you know, you know, but 560 00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.239 you're right. You know, the feeling that people have about Arizona basketball right 561 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.760 now has mostly to do with what happened with Princeton. So people are feeling 562 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:23.519 bad and then, like you said, if they're not getting good news, 563 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.960 then they feel worse. And it's like, but I've just you know, 564 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.400 I've been railing on on on fans. We're just saying just you know, 565 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.239 well, yeah he's won sixty one games, but what has he done for 566 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.400 me lately? You know, It's like, come on, I mean, 567 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.480 yeah, well it drives me crazy. It is. It is tough, 568 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.960 you know. I think I think that, you know, the jury is 569 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.679 still out in some sense on Tommy Lloyd as a recruiter. I think he's 570 00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:50.440 brought in some good guys. I think, you know, he's just so 571 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.000 different than Sean Miller, and that he's very selective and who he goes after. 572 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.840 Now he's getting criticized for not going after enough guys, right maybe you 573 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:00.400 know, maybe he he's not hitting. You know, if you're going to 574 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.960 be selective, you better hit a high percentage, right. So I think 575 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.039 that's uh, you know, some of the criticism. But you know, 576 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.280 he's landed on his feet the last couple of years and you know, into 577 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.880 June, and I suspect that will happen this year, you know. And 578 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.960 I think part of the reason he's selected is he's looking at fit really and 579 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.039 everybody talks about that, but I think it's really a big thing for him, 580 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.519 especially with the system they play. And you know, so he waited 581 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.960 a while to get Ramy and Henderson and those guys. You know, maybe 582 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.800 weren't the best transfers out there, but they really fit. You know, 583 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.960 they were good guys that fit that every you know, a lot of times 584 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.599 you get those grad transfers in with their agendas and they want their their points 585 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.400 and their shots so they can get to the NBA or whatever, and they 586 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.519 weren't really like that. So I think he's looking for that, whereas with 587 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.440 Miller, Miller went after every five star out there, basically, you know, 588 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.920 and got a lot of them, and a lot of them didn't fit. 589 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.400 And sometimes he mashed him together because he's a really good communicator and he's 590 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.000 strong with him. But sometimes it didn't work. And we all saw that. 591 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.760 We you know, number of times where Roley Awkins and Alonso Tree were 592 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.039 glaring at each other on the court, you know, and stuff like that. 593 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:14.440 Those teams weren't always at together, and so you know, that's a 594 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:15.519 trade off, like what what do you what do you want? Do you 595 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.039 want talented may or may not work? Or or do you want you you 596 00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:22.880 know? Or as you're Tommy Lloyd, do you want? Do you want 597 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.679 a cohesive team? But it may be tough to pull together exactly what you 598 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.159 want. Is there anything? Is there any scenario where Tabellas would come back? 599 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.880 Um, the more I hear about it, I don't think so. 600 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:40.000 But you know, I think I don't you know, he's he's tough. 601 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.079 Three. I haven't had a chance to talk to him. I don't know, 602 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.119 but it just sounds like he's leaving. I think, you know, 603 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.000 most guys of his level figure after two or three years that's enough. And 604 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.119 they're not going to improve themselves enough to get higher in the draft, so 605 00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.039 you might as well go in and get what you can get. And I 606 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.800 also think just because the floor nowadays for a guy like him is probably a 607 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.679 two way contract, which is half a million dollars a year, why would 608 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.400 he come back to UVA if he can make half half a million dollars a 609 00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:13.679 year? Um, you know, I mean, I guess the only scenario 610 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.280 would be is if it looks like he couldn't even get that, if if 611 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.400 he tests really poorly, and at the same time, you know, he's 612 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.840 maybe putting up some feelers that you know, he wouldn't make that much in 613 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:28.519 Europe and or somebody here, you know, maybe maybe there's an nil situation 614 00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.519 from here where it's like, Okay, it's not so bad, but I 615 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.360 don't, you know, it's hard to see it happening. But um, 616 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.599 you know, you know from ten or fifteen, certainly twenty years ago, 617 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.480 you can see it he would definitely come back or you know almost you know, 618 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.840 it's just it's just so different now. Bruce, you gotta go, 619 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.920 You gotta go, Bruce, take care. Thank you very much. Man 620 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:50.840 appreciated Bruce taks about thanks for having okay cool. He made some great points 621 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:58.239 about the rabid fans about the recruiting. He's expect exactly the ones that are 622 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.760 complaining are there are probably aren't that many, but it's really damn squeaky. 623 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.760 They're really damn loud. They're loud enough to piss me on. Yeah. 624 00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.280 No, no, I'm with you. I'm with you that because you're right. 625 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.280 I mean, he's right. Um, there was something that I wanted 626 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.079 to ask him about. I'll ask him on the side where and I because 627 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:15.719 he just said a story. Did you read a story about the nil and 628 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.599 the old stuff that he wrote about? What that meant? What he came. 629 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.360 I'll have to read it because obviously we know that's important. If not, 630 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:27.079 in my mind, it's not number one thing. Yeah, I mean 631 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.719 I think it's. I mean, while for the most part, players are 632 00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.000 going to go play where they like the coach, If they hate the coach, 633 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.079 they're not gonna go. So I think that will always be factor number 634 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.920 one. Probably moving up to factor number two is Okay, I love the 635 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.400 coach and how much money are you are sure you're gonna give him? Sure? 636 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.679 Now? And then then it's like Okay, you know, the players, 637 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.159 the facility, the fans. Yeah, I'll fall kind of in a 638 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.960 bundle after that. Once you're getting paid, who what does that matter? 639 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.719 Right? So no, it's funny you say that how much are gonna get 640 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.519 paid? Blue chips? I mean this has been the long standing and Sean 641 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.159 got caught for it, right, Okay, I'm gonna go there. What 642 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.800 am I gonna we are gonna pay? Are you gonna pay me? Now? 643 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.519 Two years into it? I want you're gonna pay me? Yea? 644 00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:14.599 And it's normal and then it's yeah, norms part of the conversation anymore, 645 00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.280 always always, you know, I just again with my Wednesday lunch group, 646 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.920 and you know, we were talking about about you know, the kid from 647 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:23.840 Forton, he decided to go to Alabama. Didn't even come and check out 648 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.239 Arizona. You got to Alabama. They handed him a bag of cash and 649 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.760 he said, okay, I'll be back. How many people in that group, 650 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.719 there's like eight or ten. So I don't know any of them. 651 00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.199 I don't know any of them. I don't want to know any but I 652 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.840 probably do, but I don't want to know of the ten. How many 653 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.760 help? How many help are you of a. I'm gonna say probably all 654 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.400 of them really is well in a in a way, tickets, donations, 655 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.599 Yeah, we're all you know, we're all real actual we actually so so 656 00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.280 they're we're invested, they're invested. Okay, so the whole that's what Arizona 657 00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.280 needs, right that. Yeah, well we're yeah, we're a little unusual. 658 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.599 And then well yeah yeah, but no, well, in fact, 659 00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:05.800 I had to collect I had to collect our tailgate paths money from those guys. 660 00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.239 I thought you were gonna say half, no, but that's for every 661 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.880 one of them. Everyone, every one of them is first of all, 662 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.760 everyone of them the season football, football season, take it older then you 663 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.679 know, some are basketball season, take it older, some are women's basketball, 664 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:22.599 some are softball, uh, baseball, you know that with these guys 665 00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.599 are all all supporters. Yeah. So I'm not on campus as much as 666 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.840 I used to be. I don't think you're either, Jason, you're on 667 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.519 campus, right, Yeah? They driving rides, they drive can you know 668 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.239 do you know do you know that they're doing? Okay, I think they 669 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.920 are. Yeah, have you seen that they are? I haven't seen you 670 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.679 have not? Okay, Okay, I'm wondering, you know what I'm saying, 671 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.719 yeah, it's even before they got here. You see the kids wearing 672 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.559 the diamond ravings. And well, Chris Mills drove up in a in a 673 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.800 in was it a Kentucky? Did them? Well? Yeah, what did 674 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.280 he have? Yeah he had he had a car. He was a car 675 00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.559 yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, again we talked about Lewis 676 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.400 Holmes showing up in a brand new Hummer. We talk about you know, 677 00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:08.159 different guys. And then Steve Kerr had a bike, yeah, and he 678 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.719 was like it was a crappy bike on top of that ugly convertible. Is 679 00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.599 convertible that all that? So no, it's uh, he's a changing times 680 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.320 man. Yeah, they're changing times. They definitely are. I'm gonna ask 681 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:24.440 them for a loan. Yeah, you know, I mean well, you 682 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:29.800 know, and again be John Robinson had a Lamborghini. Yeah, come up, 683 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.639 we were talking about that today. It's just how crazy that well, 684 00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.719 Arizona needs the fans don't listen here, the fans that aren't listening to whatever, 685 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.599 they need to help put that nil. Yeah, we yeah, they 686 00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.719 do. And uh it's you know, the time, the conversation that we 687 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.840 had yesterday, and you use the words donor fatigue don't know. Are are 688 00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.039 are the fans? You're gonna get that? And when at a time when 689 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.800 that's the last thing you can be having is is donor fatigue? You need 690 00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.239 you need more donors. You know, you need all the ones you already 691 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.400 have, but you gotta get some new ones who understand that. You know, 692 00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:08.960 sitting on the sideline and hoping your team's gonna get better, right, 693 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.119 is not gonna work anymore. You've got to be a part of this if 694 00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.159 you want it to be what you want it to be. It's like going 695 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.840 to a picnic of family picnic and you bring um, you bring a pie. 696 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.400 Yeah, you're the guy, and your cousin doesn't bring anything. Yeah, 697 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:23.920 and you're saying, what the hell? Yeah, you're part of this 698 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.440 family. You know, even if you're just gonna bring a bag of chips, 699 00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.559 you're part. Bring the chip chips, Bring the chip right. You 700 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.840 can't be complained about how the chicken taste if you don't bring it in right, 701 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.800 or that that whole thing. You know, you know, don't go 702 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.039 to party without a bottle of wine in your hand or something you know you 703 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.320 gotta have. You gotta have something, And I don't know how how you 704 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.320 do that because you you know, for the most part, you haven't had 705 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.719 to, right, No, you have, other people have taken care of 706 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:52.199 it for you. I've been on Facebook today, but I haven't seen any 707 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:58.360 basketball stuff, maybe purposely because I got I'm getting Facebook fatigue, complaining because 708 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.960 I feel like, God, I need to post. Well. I think 709 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.960 the guy. I think the guy that we that I quoted yesterday when we 710 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.039 talked about I think he took that down. I think because I try to 711 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.880 go back and find I can't find it. But maybe people are getting smarter 712 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.639 or or he got his answer. How does this happen? Well, there's 713 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.719 a lot of reasons why he mentioned a few, but you didn't mention money. 714 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:20.800 Yeah, exactly, and again as we as we said, you know 715 00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.079 that that's the factor now, I mean, that's that's the thing that's making 716 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.719 the difference to these guys because you know, look, I mean, you 717 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.639 know, some of these guys are never gonna play pro you know, pro 718 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.360 ball, so they want to get paid. Now. I'm gonna take what 719 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.519 I can get now, make make some money while I can, and then 720 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.719 you know, and if I get out, I got to go get a 721 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.440 real job. Fine, but at least I got a good start, right, 722 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.760 and that's that's what the stake for these guys. Sure, sure, 723 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:51.480 um, it's funny we we had coach and l yesterday hasn't affected her yet, 724 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.679 but she does see it. Kemmy, you know at at the golf 725 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:59.360 level to every level at some point, well it just came across. Two 726 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:05.880 more Colorado players have gone into the transfer portal, one uh an offensive lineman 727 00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.920 who started twenty two games, and another one who had transferred from Michigan. 728 00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:14.440 Now he decided I don't want to be here, according to Max Olsen, 729 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.360 who I don't know who that is. No, anyway, he said, 730 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.079 Colorado is down to thirteen scholarship players who are on the team last season. 731 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.039 Yeah, thirteen. If you're not happy in a place, and I talked 732 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.719 to you about what if a new guy comes in and you want to get 733 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.480 out because you know it's not comfortable for you, you can find another spot, 734 00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:32.119 right, you just you just get that's what we do. We find 735 00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:37.280 other spots. What's the divorce? Gonna be a lot of guys. There's 736 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.119 gonna be a lot of Colorado guys playing in the Pac twelve, not for 737 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:43.519 Colorado, right, What's the divorce rate right now, what's seventy percent? 738 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.519 Welcome to the divorce right now, because they're jumping ship and no, no 739 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.280 and Grant Ganelle. Right, yeah, he's already on number three or three 740 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.840 to four. He's on his fourth. Come on the fourth marriage. Yeah 741 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:58.880 here Memphis, North Texas. Fourth marriage. Now he jumped track. He 742 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.880 jumped into the portal again or the kids, Lasco Jamal Baker, Right, 743 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.280 he's going to his fifth school at some point. We're looking for fifth at 744 00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:12.559 some point, j Loo, you might be the problem. You know what. 745 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:17.039 I don't believe this. Uh. Steve Sarkasian is saying that um uh 746 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:25.239 arch Man is getting zero nil right now, Well, he spent the half 747 00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:29.000 a million. He's like, we were looking, we're talking about we're talking 748 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:31.880 about the valuation of stuff. His value is like four million, right like 749 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.519 he I saw that story, but I didn't I didn't click on it. 750 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:42.519 Yeah. So his his grandfather, so Archie says that they he's not signing 751 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:46.039 any nil deals. They want to wait until becomes a starter whatever that means. 752 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.360 Its it, says Sarcasian said, Archie his grandfather will not let him 753 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:58.119 take any nil money until he starts who's the bustle me my grandfather. But 754 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.880 well, you know what he can afford to do. Yeah, so I 755 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:05.519 don't know, but you know he didn't not get good reviews and in spring 756 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.440 practice oh no, yeah, okay, you know he had he had a 757 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.679 bad he had a bad spring game. Um, he won't be the starter. 758 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.800 Quinn yours is currently the starter and will as of now. You know, 759 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.400 it looks like he'll be the starter in the fall. But he's still 760 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.440 seventeen years old. Again, he's the Coylin Boswell thing. He's seventeen years 761 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.360 old. So, um, he's got a waste to go. But you 762 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.079 know a guy like that, I mean, you know he doesn't you say, 763 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:30.880 well, if the money's there, you're gonna take it. But he 764 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.880 doesn't need it. He's not a tech. He didn't go to Texas for 765 00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.800 n I M sure he went to Texas because that's where he wants to play. 766 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:43.920 Sure, so it'd be interesting. But I man, Steve, there's 767 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.039 so much to this anymore, And I don't know if I'm having a lot 768 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:50.599 of a lot of I'm with eggs in that basket and you can pick any 769 00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.360 one and they're gonna be a factor. I don't know if I'm having fun 770 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:58.360 specific Well, I'm impressed with your ten friends because well you wouldn't you they're 771 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:00.159 they're with you guys on football, so you can understand. Well, yeah, 772 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.800 I mean you know they're you're if you're not, if you're not going 773 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:05.880 to football games, you're not hanging out with us. Yeah, right, 774 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.199 so they're they're I mean, that's why, that's why this that was a 775 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:12.000 bad question. We call our group section eighteen. That's a section we used 776 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.559 to sit in. So I mean we still call ourselves that even though we 777 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:16.840 didn't. We don't sit in it anymore. But uh, you know we've 778 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:21.320 uh that's where all these guys have come from, and we're all we're all 779 00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.639 friends through that. That was a bad question about what me not knowing that 780 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:27.840 they're all it allowed me to brag on them. Many allowed me to brag 781 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.280 on them because you know, we are good and you know, and they 782 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:31.679 do other stuff. You know, they go to the packball basketball tournament, 783 00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:35.599 we go to the bowl games together. Yeah that's so. Yeah, you 784 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.480 say they're invested. More people need to be that way. Um, not 785 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.320 the not the ones that I told you about Vegas and the and the debauchery 786 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.400 that goes on, well they have they do that too. There's just a 787 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:52.480 bed by ten. Wow. That's yeah, that part has changed. That 788 00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.639 part has definitely changed. So all right, let's go and take our break. 789 00:51:54.760 --> 00:52:00.480 We're gonna come back, uh Jason with the debut of his breaking news, 790 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.159 So we'll see how Jason does, and then we'll take your calls all 791 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.320 in the second hour five two or four, one, six, seventy four, 792 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.960 forty. We don't have any guests the rest of the way. If 793 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:14.079 you were coming on and thinking you're gonna hear Bruce Pasco at four or fifteen, 794 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:15.480 he's already was on, but you'll be able to catch him on the 795 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.119 podcast. So stick around and we'll have breaking news at the top of the 796 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:20.920 yar. We'll be right back