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I got to sit down with Tyler Bounds, and I honestly didn't have any
idea who Tyler was. Everybody knows. I don't really get deep into the
woods on encounters and emails and things like that before I have you guys on
the show, So I was pleasantly surprised to know that when Tyler and I
were talking during his interview, he was the longest running crew member on the
show. Finding Bigfoot outside of the cast that appeared on camera each and every
week. Tyler had some amazing stories about working on that show and some of
his personal experiences, including a story that he surprised me with about possibly hitting
a sasquatch while he was working on finding Bigfoot. But I'll let Tyler tell
you all about that in just a second, really quickly, before we get
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I know you guys are ready to get into it. Tyler's on the line,
he's ready to go. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy the
show. Old to welcome our guest to the show. It is Tyler from
Washington. Welcome to the show. Man. Hey, thanks, thanks for
having me. I'm glad to have you. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.
What got you interested in the subject? To begin with? What got
me interested is when I was four or five years old, have been like
in nineteen seventy five nineteen seventy six, I was on a height with my
grandfather. He was a boy Scout leader and he took his boy Scout troop
out. He lived in southern Oregon. I was down there with my family
for a family reunion. He had double booked himself, so I ended up
going with him on this hike in the northern California somewhere. At the time
I didn't know. Actually, it was only about two years ago when I
found out where it actually happened. When I was on a hike with my
grandfather walking down this trail, he stopped. Everybody put up his hand.
Two bigfoots across the trail, probably seventy eighty feet in front of us,
A big one, A bigger one. I had no idea what bigfoot was.
I remember when I was a little kid, my very favorite TV show
in the world was this show called Land of the Loss. There was a
little caveman kid, Chaka. I remember thinking that the smaller thing that I
saw reminded me of Chaka from Land of the Lost. I remember a bunch
of hubbub. Next thing I know, he apparently had plaster of Paris in
one of the vehicles that were back wherever we had parked. He passed two
footprints. We went back to his ranch in Ashland, Oregon, and I
remember him picking these plaster footprint casts, putting them up against this outbuilding where
there were probably ten, twelve, fifteen other footprint casts. I remember looking
at those. Wow. Okay, I had no idea what had occurred.
I had no idea that there was no such thing as bigfoot. I just
saw two critters. It was like seeing deer, it was like seeing grasshoppers,
it was like seeing a frog. Anything else as far as I knew
at that point, in time. I remember my parents talking about it later
because it was a big deal that we had seen two baitfoots with my grandfather.
My mother used to tell me that every time I watched Lando Loss after
that, I would see little Harry chaka bigfoot thing, and like, that's
what I saw with Grandpa. So that went on for a while. Every
time we would go back down to my grandparents' ranch, they had a big
five thousand acre ranch in southern Oregon outside of Ashland, Oregon, I would
go over to that outbuilding look at those footprints. When I was seven eight
years old, figuring stuff out. Then after that I started checking out bigfoot
books at the library. Growing up in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains here
in Washington, I was hearing stories from woggers outdoors, people seeing Chainsaw Carving's
bigfoot. This sasquatched that that was the spark of a lifelong interest in bigfoot,
bigfoot phenomenon. It's full weird thing. That's how that started. Everybody's
right there with you, including me. We've all went down the rabbit hole.
I know. In your email you mentioned that that had led to a
lot of great adventures, which again That's one of the things I love about
Bigfooting. Bigfooting is one of those things where you meet some of the greatest
people in the world. I've met lifelong friends from doing the show. I've
gotten to travel to places do things I would have never done before had it
not been for Bigfoot. What kind of adventures have you had in the world.
In nineteen ninety two, drove down to Lake Tahoe for my grandparents' fiftieth
wedding anniversary. On my way back, I decided that I was going to
take a detour to the Willow Creek, Bluff Creek, go up in the
mountains look for Bigfoot. I had no idea what I was doing. I
had a couple Bigfoot books that I owned. I went into Willow Creek,
ended up going into a store. Didn't know at at the time, but
Wynn talked to Al Hodgson, who's since passed away, but he gave me
some map. I bought John Green's books. He personally put some locations on
this map because Al was there when the whole thing happened with Patterson, Gimlin
Fell, and all that stuff that was happening in the mid to late sixties.
In northern California because he had the Merchantile or whatever there in Willow Creek.
So I had this map, I had some books, I had a
flashlight, drove up into the hills, no idea what I'm doing. I'm
driving a rental car with the windows rolled down. In any sound I heard,
I would stop running into the woods with the flashlight. Is that's what
she'd do? You are going to go chase down a bigfoot. I'm not
thinking that could be bear, should be a cougar. If it is a
bigfoot, what am I going to do when I catch it? When it
catches me? Like? What am I doing? But that was my first
bigfoot expedition June of nineteen ninety two. It was the greatest thing I had
ever done. I was so stoked on it coming out of will Creek with
it. Put coffee mug map that al Hodson had written on that I have
since lost. That I really wish that I had because he was such an
influential character in the whole history of bigfoery back then all of John Green's on
the track of the Sasquatch. So I was always into it. I'm a
lifelong hiker, backpacker, outdoors person. So every time I would go hiking,
backpacking, always have that third eye listening for stuff, looking for footprints,
that sort of thing. So I was always really into it. Years
go by, I've moved here and moved there, lived here and lived there.
I lived in Alaska for several years. When I came back from Alaska,
through a weird set of circumstances, ended up going on a exhibition with
a BFRO here in Washington in two thousand and eight. Life changing experience.
It was crazy. My dad. I went because my dad, who was
there when I saw the things with my grandfather, he was into it.
I would check out books in the library. He would read my books as
well, because it was a cool father son thing to go do. Let's
go on a bigfoot exhibition. That's cool, this is the thing. I
had a great time, met a bunch of great people. A bunch of
those people brought me into the fold, invited me to other outings BFRO affiliated
associated but not official Borrow things. Hanging out with those people. They recognized
in me that I knew my way around the woods, I know what critters
are. I went to college for geology, paleontology, all that so I
know history, evolution, animals. I'm a lifelong nature nerd. They knew
that. If we heard a sound at night, I'm like, oh my
gosh, that's a big foot. I'm for nightkawk. That's cool. Oh
frog. Not jumping to conclusions. Other people be tripping out like, oh
my god, did you hear that? Like it's coyote. No, it's
not like it's a coyote, dude, I've heard lots of coyotes. I
was accepted pretty readily into the BFRORO zeitgeist of that time. Over the years,
attended several more expeditions with the BFRO, ended up leading expeditions, facilitating,
leading researching BFRORO expeditions here in Washington, in Oregon, in Idaho.
I've been to BFRORO expeditions in Virginia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Minnesota,
floating all over the place. I don't know how much research you've done on
me at all, But all this culminated. When was that two thousand and
nine twenty ten? I think it was two. I was a part of
a group we took Bob Saggot into the woods here in Washington, the Olympic
Peninsula with ten three days in the woods with Bob Saggitt is crazy. It
was an invite only thing. I was really lucky to be invited hanging out
with people who are friends of mine, have been friends of mine for a
long time, a lot of people from Washington, some of the Oregon people.
But that production company looked at all this. I was like, Wow,
this is a thing, this is interesting. These guys are all weird.
Long story short, that same production company came up with the show Finding
Bigfoot. I ended up working on the Animal Planet TV show Finding Bigfoot for
about five years, traveling all over the country with the cast crew. I
was the outdoor technician. I know you've seen Finding Bigfood. I listened to
your podcast. You were on Cliff and Bobo's podcast months ago. I don't
listen to many podcasts, but I do listen to Cliff Bobes because they cracked
me up. But yeah, on the TV show, every episode, well
from season two on, every episode, one of the cast members would go
out by themselves to the woods. I was the one that went with them,
filmed them by themselves. It was pretty cool. I mean, for
a while, for several years, I was one of the only people in
the world that was getting paid to go look for bigfoot, hang out with
my friends, go camping, look for bigfoots, travel all over the country.
Going from me being a four or five year old kid to reading all
this books, watching all this documentaries, watching in search of every cheeseball bigfoot
documentary, TV show, movie, how all that came around to then me
making a cheeseball TV show. Getting to meet so many people, but Berrickman
is one of my best friends, going down to his house to Margo,
hang out with Matt Prewitt. Matt Preuit's one of my Titus Rose from way
back. I'm really excited to see him tomorrow. I haven't seen him ten
years since his ex condition in South Carolina, like two thousand and thirteen,
I think, So, I'm really excited about that. But getting to meet
authors, people whose books I read when I was young. Wow, I'm
in John Burn's house hanging out with John Byrne, who's talking about hunting tigers
or getting to paddle a kayak around Boggy Creek being paid for it. Come
on, Holy mackerel. I got to do so many dumb bucket list things,
just super bigfoot nerd stuff that there was a lot of times where I
had to just take a step back. Wow, this is what I'm doing,
this is my job. In the ensuing years, since two thousand and
eight, I have found footprints out the wild audio recording from here in Washington
of something that was yelling at us, streaming at us from I don't know,
a mile away, half a mile away, way down this valley where
there's no people. This thing is just yelling loud. You could feel it
in your chest. It was insane. I've never you hear stories about vocalizations
experiencing that feeling that especially. There were some skeptics that were with me that
were freaking out, one of which now he's full on bigfoot nerd down in
Oregon, his wife do be a ro exhibitions, little bigfoot festivals, bigfoot
running brews. Yeah, seeing skeptics eyes like pop out of the school,
like WHA what is that? I don't know. I'm a hunter. I've
shot everything. I have no idea what that is. In experiences while on
the show, while filming the show, a lot of stuff that it's either
too ambiguous for TV, it doesn't look good on TV, or the classic
the trail cam stopped working we didn't check the batteries in the audio recorder.
That sort of thing a cliff. I woke up one morning to sound like
yelling is like the best way I could describe it. Across this river.
We were in New Jersey, of all places, which is wild. We
were in the pine barrens of New Jersey, which is crazy place, one
of the most wild places, wild as in nature, bear, bears,
turtles, snakes, birds, The amount of wildlife, the amount of woods
life going on, really blew my mind. I not what I pictured New
Jersey, but whatever this noise was, it woke us up. We both
hopped out of the tents like, oh my gosh, you have the audio
set up. Yeah, Oly, you set it up last night. Went
over the batteries. The eternal curse of the camera stopped working. Batteries suddenly
did SD car filled up. Whatever gadget it is that suddenly, for no
reason, stops working right when you need it at the most. There was
also a pretty infamous episode in Virginia where I hit something with one of our
rental cars two in the morning, coming back from setting up trail cameras,
bait stations, all the stuff for the next day. I was driving coming
off dirt road onto a paved road, this highway, finally going back to
the hotel, which is an hour half two hours away. By this time
it's two in the morning. I spent from running around the woods all day
doing my production stuff for the TV show. I looked down at the cruise
control controls because I can finally drive over twenty miles an hour. I looked
up. There was something standing in the road. I hit it, messed
up the van. I stopped immediately turn around. I thought that I had
hit a person, some drunk hillbilly out of the middle of nowhere. Turned
around. There was nothing there. There was nothing in the road. I
yelled for this person for quite a while. Come out, dude, I'll
help you. I'll drive you to the hospital. Then it starts dawning on
me, like why would a person just be standing in the middle of the
road in this foggy place, adjacent to a bridge that goes over this creek.
I had a thermal imager with me. I'd bust about out looking for
body heat. There's these fields all over the place. There's deer in the
fields, there's cows, and it's big mountain or hills Virginia Hills on each
side. Then it starts dawning on me like that wasn't a human. Probably
wasn't a human. But I'm also very cognizant of the fact that I'm a
bigfoot nerd working on a bigfoot show, coming back from setting up bigfoot bait
stations, a bunch of camera traps for bigfoot. Then I hit a bigfoot.
Come on, really, but I looked for a person, a body,
and injured somebody white a while there was nobody. I immediately got on
the phone woke him up. I'm like, man, I'm sorry to wake
up. Is if you're calling me at three in the morning, there's a
reason. So I told him what happened. He said, to bust out
your audio recorder. Record everything on audio while still fresh in your mind.
So I was just talking to the other recorder, called my buddy, Matt
Bruitt. He was still living in Oklahoma at that time. Woke him up
because I was freaking out. I would still convince I'm still halfway convinced to
this day that I had hit a person, hurt, severely injured or killed
a person. So I was very shaken up by the whole thing. Especially
in looking at the damage to the car, and I'm going to be in
trouble for this. What am I going to my producer? I hit a
bigfoot. I actually considered telling him that I went off the road. I
had a stomp, point to the ditch something, so that it would be
more plausible. I thought I would get in less trouble if I'd told him
that, But I ended u up telling them what happens. We couldn't really
use it for the TV show because we're not the kind of TV show where
we break that fourth wall where the crew is not part of the scene,
even though besides the cast, I was the longest running production member of that
show finding Bigfoot while it was going. But they we can't really do anything
with this. We can't say Tyler was out driving around, none of the
cast was with him. We took some DNA swap, We did our due
diligence, did our thing. One of the cast members whose name I won't
share, she touched the rear view mirror. Because when I hit whatever I
hit, when I looked up, it was standing right there. I hit
it driver's side front corner. My driver's side mirror bashed in. Then something
hit the top of the van. People have said, maybe it was a
deer, maybe it's coyote. It was standing there. I saw it deer.
I've seen coyotes. I thought it was a person. But there were
some smears smudges on the car. And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to
see. We'll be right back after these messages. I looked for hair after
it happened, because you know how to do all this stuff as well.
Didn't see anything. I went over this car before I drove one hundred and
fifty miles whatever it was back to our hotel, so I could say,
yes, I looked for hair. There was no hair. But somebody,
look, there's a big smudge here on the rear side mirror. Just put
your bare hand all over it. Okay, you're the scientist, whatever,
but I won't mention that name. That next day, I was so out
of it, so distraught about what I thought had happened, the possibility that
I hid somebody hit a human being Homo sapiens. That my producer had one
of our production assistants every hospital within two hundred miles to see if anybody had
been admitted. Nobody had. Then my producer on our lunch break. He
came over, was like, get in the car, come with me.
I can't stand you looking like this. We drove down to the spot where
it happened, in broad daylight, middle of the day. I went down
there. I crawled down every little rabbit hole in the brambles, the briers,
every bush looking for blood, A dead deer, a dead coyote,
dead person, a hurt person, anything that would solve that mystery. Put
my mind to rest. I spent hours down there until dude, we got
to get back because we got to film this bit with everybody back to the
location. So never did find out what it was, never did find anything.
One of the other cast members, I'm just going to say his name,
Matthew J. Moneymaker on Twitter that quite being Bigfoot bfro researcher finding Bigfoot
production. Something hit a Bigfoot with the car last night, so it went
out on Twitter. Of course, that opened up huge can of worms.
So for a while, I don't do it much anymore. I used to
be pretty active, like on Bigfoot forums, some of the forums back in
the day. Back to the day sounds so dumb, but yeah, fifteen
years ago, Dolly Cheapers fifteen years ago. Wow, getting into online SPACs
with people like you didn't hit a bigfoot. I didn't say I hit a
bigfoot. Moneymakers said I hit a bigfoot. But there's still stuff. Actually,
somebody sent me a Reddit post this a little while ago. A picture
of me is something like Tyler Boun's tool of the corporate Bigfoot industrial complex claimed
the fame he hit a bigfoot with car, but doesn't have any proof to
back him up. I'm just like, this is still happening ten years later,
there's still people posting online about Tyler Brown's just being full of crap,
which is hilarious. Always used to laugh about when people talk about bigfoot drama
in the bigfoot community, Like, how can there be drama? What are
you talking about all these years later? Oh that drama? I know?
No, you don't, Yes, I do. No, I know more
than you. You're just doing it for money. You're just on a TV
show, you just want to whatever. So ridiculous. So, yeah,
that's the thing that happened. I've had other very ambiguous things happened in the
woods, Trees being pushed over, very coincidental times, that sort of thing,
smacking on a tree with some baseball bat doing your standard wood dogs this
is what we do, and hanging out and then a tree falls over.
It's weird to say, but I know that there's bigfoots. I've seen them.
I've seen footprints the wild with my own eyes, footprints that I found
both on a riverbank in the snow. I've heard things that I can't explain.
I've traveled all over this country, interviewed hundreds, hundreds of people.
There's a lot of people that have seen things that can't be explained away.
They know what they saw, They're convinced what they saw. I've also interviewed
lots of people that are so full of crap. Cliff I were talking about
it a while ago, how we wished that we would have kept track of
all the people we interviewed, people we talked to, if we'd had a
little tally sheet liar or truth lie. But we were talking about it.
We both think maybe seventy percent of the people that we talked to, people
that we encountered, witnesses, people that came to our town halls legitimately believe
what they saw. People that lose their mind Bryan talking about their story,
or somebody that they don't know that lives a mile or two away that saw
the same thing the same night. These two people don't know each other.
When they meet there prying, hugging, they're getting that validation thought they're insane
all these years. Then someone else has the same story, same thing on
the other side of the river, just a couple miles away, on the
other side of the woods or whatever. When those two people come together doesn't
just make good TV, it's very compelling. This lends a lot of weight
to the fact that there's something out there that people see that same people see.
They can't explain it. So I'm convinced that there's some things out there
more than one, not just the Bigfoot. My grandmothers to say, you're
chasing that bigfoot around. Now, your grandpa he used to chase that big
old thing around. I'm like, there's more than one. No. That's
one of my favorite things about Bigfoot is the people that think there's just one.
I used to be that way when I was a kid. I thought
there was one Bigfoot. It was somewhere out west. It was nowhere near
Georgia where I grew up, certainly not in the southeastern United States. Tyler
I had no idea who you were. Man, I told you a little
bit before we went on. I've said this on the air. It's not
really the secret sauce anymore. But one of the things that I do is
I like to hear people's encounters the first time when they're in front of me
on the show. I don't get into the emails. I don't dig in.
I know people do pre interviews. I'm definitely not that dude. I
like to hear it in real time. So I had no idea. Had
I known that you were coming on. If you were who you were,
I would have called Cliff today gotten some of the behind the scenes so we
could have talked some shit about you on the air. Or Matt, I'm
going to get to hang out with those guys in Ohio, so I'm looking
forward to that. Yeah, I'm doing the Ohio Bigfoot Conference for the first
time. Cliff was like, why don't you just come hang out with me
and my booth. Matt's going to be there. I think Doug Hihcheck's going
to be there. It's going to be a good time. You'll have to
tell those guys I said hello when you see him tomorrow. When you go
to Cliff's house. Yeah, I haven't seen through it since I was filming
in Kentucky. Knock over to his expedition. I totally just under a blanket
in the truck. He saw these people I was with. Then I snuck
out, just went over to the campfire with a beer. Was just standing
there and I was telling some story. Looked over at me. He's like,
oly shit. Matt I used to run around a lot here in Washington
when he lived here. We were the two trouble makers, questioning everybody's experiences.
A lot of people started to dislike us because we didn't just take everything
at face value. Oh, bigfoot came out on my tart, Like,
how do you know it was a bigfoot? Because that's what bigfoots do.
I don't think bigfoot. He sees a blue tarps, Oh my gosh,
I gotta go well on this tarp, expose myself. Even though I'm super
stealthy hiding, nobody can find me. But I see blue tarp. Yeah,
I get to see through it. Tomorrow. Meldrum is doing a thing
at Cliffs Museum tomorrow, so I'm going down there for that, and then
Matt is presenting at this thing called squatch Fest that we have here starting Friday,
because Matt has his book out now, which I still haven't read because
I'm waiting for him give me my copy. I don't want to just go
buy one off Amazon. I knew he was going to be here. I'll
send you one. No, dude, when you come to Washington, you're
going to give me one from your hands, not Amazon, not some reseller.
You are going to give me your book. Thing dong. I'm really
stoked. I'm really stoked to see through it. I did say something that
clipped a little while the other day that I was going to come because I
had no idea who you were. Either you put something on Reddit. In
the past, I've answered a couple other things, but usually or I won't
say usually because I don't know. But other times somebody has said, Hey,
does somebody have any big coot encounters? You want to come on my
podcast? I'm like, I'll come on your podcast that has twelve views.
I've done some sketchy ones, some guys down south back East. You guys
even know you didn't even spell sasquatch right, so I would It's like it's
a sympathy podcast. I have a certain amount of notoriety. But maybe you
can spill my name right, put it on your website. You might get
more than twelve people tuning in the goodness in my heart. I'm going to
help your little podcast. Then you did the same thing. I'm like,
sure, did all going your silly little thing tell my Bigfoot story? Then?
Oh, it's a sass hechocracy guy. Oh he doesn't need me.
He doesn't need me at all. But I'm totally glad to finally make your
acquaintance be part of this. So it's an honor for me, a privilege
to be invited on. I didn't know how much vetting you had done of
me or anything. Some people don't, so I'm glad that it was a
pleasant surprise for you, not just some schmuck tell my little Bigfoot story.
But it threw a rocket me ran off. It was the most incredible experience
in my life. Yeah, I have a few more tales than just I
saw something weird in the woods once next the next contestant, please. I
love the pleasant surprises. Man. I will definitely have to give a copy
of my book when I meet you in person. Cliff was nice enough to
write the forward to the book. That's one of the things that people will
get to. Yes, he did. The forward to my book should be
out. The pre sales going on now. If you guys are listening to
this now, it'll be out for everybody in mid to late February, Sasquatch
unleashed the truth behind the legend, you get a forward by Cliff Barrackman of
all people, nice the man from finding Bigfoot. It's funny that you mentioned
the story. I had no idea. As many times as I've talked to
Matt. I hung out with those guys, Matt Moneymaker, Cliff, Matt
Renee, we're all in Tennessee over the summer doing the Smoking Mount big Foot
conference. I hung out with those guys. I was messaging with she who
shall not be named today. Had I known the story that you told,
I would have may or may not have given them some shit while we were
talking. But I didn't know the story, so I couldn't do it at
that point. But as tully Pine, I don't get into it too much.
I spent all day every day with all four of those people for several
years, been to the woods with them. Just say that, Cliff,
are still besties to this day. Cliff I are both weirdos, eccentric geeks.
Plus he only lives a couple hours away from me, so we get
together often. But I love Bobo. I knew all the cast members for
the show. I knew her Anee before the show when she was just a
fish councher here in Washington who had an experience. She's had a couple of
experiences, but she will admit to them now because she's skeptic. But she
definitely had some beefs over the years. Yeah, I guess we're no longer
friends. She blocked me on the social media's that's when you know you've made
it because I've got a couple of those friends or former friends in the Bigfoot
community. When I get blocked out of their groups, I can no longer
even find them. They don't exist on Facebook. I guess that's a whole
level of made it when you get blocked by somebody who is somebody in the
Bigfoot community. So I don't know, I think a bad of honor.
I wear it with pride in a way. Yeah, I don't mind.
Not that I want to go hang out with Brenee, even though she lives
pretty close to me. She's up in Seattle, hour away from me.
We have hung out in the past, but I've made it be known to
her face things over the years. That's not a big fan of hers.
She got me in trouble more than once on the TV show just because of
her ineptitude. I'm trying to be politically correct nice here because you never know
who's listening. You should hear what Tyler was saying about you on whatever podcast.
There's only like fifteen people that are going to hear this, so there's
no pressure. Actually, just got a text message from one of my coworkers
the other day. I'm at home right now. The TV is on the
background. I heard a voice and I looked over. You're on my TV
talking about Bickfoot. Yeah. That's the thing that happens every once in a
while, whenever there's like a Finding Bigfook marathon or something. That was in
several episodes as well. Tyler Bowns leader of the Washington BFRO, Tyler Brown's
leader of the Oregon bfro O. Tyler Browns member of the Georgia BFRO.
Tyler Bownes part of the Minnesota Idaho or we do a recreation I was laying
in my tent. I heard a noise. I sat up, so I
get in the tape. I set up there filming me. Some days.
Someone's going to figure all this out. Wait, this is the same guy.
Just my name is Tyler Browns. I play a BFRO investigator on TV
from multiple states. Then I'm the guy in the t and then I'm the
guy on the motorcycle, and I'm the guy on the horse. Then you're
dB Cooper. You shot jails. Okay, it's funny you say that.
Because I have a YouTube channel called Pacific North Weird, I am often putting
on bigfoot suits. I did play dB Cooper in one of our videos.
I have played Daby Cooper actually, which is funny. There's a psychic connection
going on here. I'd be remiss if I didn't ask before we close out.
Here's the thing for me, I haven't seen a sasquatch. I've had
some weird experiences. I have found footprints very much like you. I've talked
about this on the show. People are probably rolling in their eyes, but
I've never talked to you about it. I'm on a hike this past summer.
I come across what looks like I think it's footprint paradolia in the water
of Big Creek. I'm like, holy shit, that looks like a footprint.
That's really cool. I'm thinking, I'm just going to take a picture
of that because it looks like a footprint. Then I start looking. I
see toes, it's smushed down. I see a heel. It's about fourteen
inches. Holy shit, that looks like a foot So I snapped a couple
of pictures of it. I wasn't doing anything Bigfoot related. We were just
on a hike. I wasn't even going to take my phone on this hike
because I was getting away from Bigfoot, Like Bigfoot is my job, it's
my life. So I just wanted to get out of my woods and enjoy
the woods. I come across this footprint. I put it out on social
media. People are like, oh, man, that looks like a footprint.
I'm sitting having a drink with Cliff in Idaho this past summer. It
was like July or August. I said, hey, ude, let me
just show you this. I give my cell phone I'm showing in the picture
and Cliff goes, dude, that's a Sasquatch footprint. I'm like, are
you shitting me? No, dude, it's actually a really good looking sasquatch
footprint. Did you cast it? I'm like, no, I didn't cast
it. It was in water, it was raining, it was raining the
next day. I didn't have any material with me. You should have casted
it. That's a really good footprint. I'm like, oh, they shit.
So I said all that to say I found things. I've heard things.
I've been on expeditions with Todd Standing in Canada this past October. I
had some weird experiences there. I think I live interacted with a sasquatch,
possibly through wood knocks, whoops, samurai chatter. But I'm still it's hard
for me to say one hundred percent because I am a skeptical person. My
brain it wants the evidence, right, that empirical data. Let me ask
you this, You've had a lot of experiences. Let's take the experience obviously
where you saw too when you were a kid with your granddad, take all
that stuff away. Has there been something, as far as evidence that maybe
you've seen on the show, outside of the show, on expedition that you
found yourself whatever, Is there anything that would have convinced you outside of your
siding as a child with your granddad that these things are real. If so,
what is that evidence. I don't think I would be one hundred percent
convinced if I hadn't seen them. Other things that have happened separately don't make
a lot of sense. But in the context of where we were, what
we were doing, what was going on, the time of year, the
seasons, When you take all that together, it's very compelling. The footprint
that I've found here in Washington that I have a photo of, I was
walking on a logging road. There's a creekret there, little sandy spot footprint
right there. It goes into godzillion acres of forest on the other side of
that. I'm like, holy shit, dude, there's a footprint down there.
I get down, you know, make my way down there through the
brambles. I'm eight feet away from it. Oh my gosh, dude,
footprint. My dog was with me. My dog passed on the rest in
piece Mojo. He just runs all over the place, does his dog thing
whatever. All of a sudden he came out of nowhere, went right over
the top of that footprint, galloped right over it. I think he purposely,
like how many of my feat Can I get into this fourteen inch space
because it just obliterated it. No, I've seen good footprints that are very
that's a footprint, that's definitely a footprint, like you were saying the paradolia
or some water feature erosion whatever. I've seen some very questionable footprints that people
like, No, dude, there's toes little clip says went in doubt cast
it, which what we do. But then Cliff has an amazing clutch of
footprints. A lot of them are like that's a footprint, and a lot
of them are like that's a chunk of plaster with a bunch of rocks pine
needles in it. But yeah, there's the heel. Yep, Yeah,
I see it. Yeah. I love Cliff. Like I said, he's
one of my best sies. I gave him crap all the time. He
gives me crap all the time. I don't think I would be inventced today
where everybody has a high quality video camera in their pocket at all times.
It seems like the footage that people get just gets worse worse worse. Do
we need to take a thirty five milimeter film camera into the woods, put
it on a saddle bag on a horse to get good footage because we haven't
gone anything since. There is some stuff that is very convincing, some stuff
out there, but oh my gosh, I really don't spend much time on
internet social media. People send me links all the time to do much.
This thing on YouTube, no or the Big Hubbub a little while ago,
the thing in Colorado. I was immediately like, no, dude, that's
the most cheesy looking sasas unless it just came out of the salon. It's
terrible. We did an episode in Durango. I was there for two weeks
during pre production. I took that Durango to Silverton train just for kicks one
time, Like I'm in Colorado, I'm doing research, so I knew exactly
where that happened. I knew that there's a road right there. It's not
out middle of nowhere. I kept telling people like, it's not real,
dude, what do you know? More than you not to pump myself up
or anything. But you're asking me, just like the people that send me
audio recordings, what is this. They send me an audio recording, it's
an owl, and they're like, your skeptic. Whatever, I'm going to
send it to Cliff, someone who believes I'm like, go for it,
and then Cliff calls me, as dude, who's this person sending me the
owl recordings because they want an expert? The dearth of compelling, convincing footage.
Why it's so lacking all of a sudden, trail cameras are so cheap
now they used to be so expensive. You can go down to Camar,
not Kmar. I don't think Kmart. Oh my gosh, I'm showing my
age. It's the Blue Light Special. Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to
see. We'll be right back after these messages. Don't go down to Dick's
Sporting Goods anywhere. Why a trail camera for fifty bucks on it to us
to be like three four hundred dollars not that long ago, but people put
up tons of trail cameras all over the place. I see when I'm out
hiking, I go out looking for mushrooms, often just walking down a trail
and look over their zone O camera out here hidden. I'm often asked,
why is there such a lack of footage something convincing? Why is every Bigfoot
TV show after ours such a piece of crap because they're all scripted. Ours
were not scripted. We just did wherever we wanted. We didn't let producers
or the network control us or make us do things we didn't want to do.
I don't know. It's that there can be so many reports but so
little evidence besides footprints. Unless there's just a lot less bigfoots now than there
used to be, which could be could be separated, but there's still often
here in Oregon, British Columbia there's reports. I spent a lot of time
in Ohio because I used to drive the U haul truck for finding Bigfoot.
I've driven coast to coast five times in a U haul. I'm in every
state Exceptarine North Dakota looking for big I guess I wasn't looking for bigfoods in
Hawaii. But it's like every time you drive, Wow, I'm in Ohio
again. Anytime you're going east to west or west east, I guess it's
rual you have to go through Ohio. I know a lot of Ohio people
have been to the Ohio Conference. There's been quite a few years now since
I've been there, and goes there. In twenty thirteen was the last time
AGREE what happened? Where did all the time go going to salt or there'd
be stuff happening, and now it's SEMs like it's wided down. Places that
were hotspots seem to be not as hot for some reason, or I'm just
not paying attention, or I've just blocked it out because there's so many people
that are full of shit nowadays that instead of trying to filter all that,
I just choose not engage. I've gone full circle, just back to doing
what I do here in Washington, like you were saying, going backpacking like
I used to, without video cameras, batteries, extra SD cars, lights,
power cables, chargers, fifty pounds worth of crap, a baseball bat,
a bunch of col in your backpack. I'm just going to go to
the woods. I'm in a super great big footy spot not very far from
where I got amazing audio recording. I'm just going to go snowshoeing, Just
go out into nature. Gone down an old decommissioned logging road covered in snow.
Oh look, there's great big footprints that are four feet apart in a
straight line going down this road. I didn't have a camera. I have
my phone but I'm a photographer as well, so I usually have fancy pants
camera with a bunch of lenses. But I was just going quick, like
I don't even have a tape measure, Like all I have is I'm putting
my hiking pull in between the footprints taking a video, like I don't even
have anything. I don't even have a dollar for scale. You know,
it's just I'm just out here walking. I can't help to find bigfoot footprints.
You know, even when it was just a little while ago, or
maybe a couple of years ago, that I went backpacking middle of the night
on this river bank, I heard something walking on the rocks. It's probably
just elk. They listen, that's a person or somebody by peedle. I
don't have anything. I'm laying there with my phone just top recording me just
talking. And you can hear on the river bank and like here I am
in my tent, not doing big footy stuff. I think there's a big
thing on the river bank there. I didn't go out to look for it.
I didn't go out to try to get video or chase it down.
I was just laughing to myself. Actually I sent that to prew it because
It reminded me of when we were both youngsters starting out everything's a Bigfoot and
making your notes videos once again, the full circle thing, world famous bigfoot
expert sitting in his tent out middle of nowhere by himself, I think there's
a big foot outside and went to what are you going to do? It's
funny, but yeah, turning back to that question, if I was to
be getting into bigfoot today, I don't think i'd be convinced it's funny here
in Washington. I know it's all over the place because I've talked to threugh
it other people around the country, But you can't drive very far here in
Washington without coming up on a car that's got a Bigfoot sticker on it.
Bigfoot, given a piece sign Bigfoot with a flag Bigfoot. That's always the
same big but it's always facing to the right. It's the same silhouette.
I'm glad to see you have a different one. I'm glad your logo isn't
the cookie cutter bigfoot thing. But I've talked to some people. I don't
say anything about who I am or why I'm asking, but I'll like,
hey, nice bigfoot sticker, Like yeah, dude, bigfoots all them like
really yeah, bigfoots. It's just more of a simble of something. Oh
my word, I'm saying it again. In the if you saw a car
with a bigfoot sticker on it, you're like chasing. I've done it,
followed a car, chase them down they get out of the car in the
parking lot, Like you already got a bigfoot sticker, which ye sounds how
you would meet other bigfoot nerds now, Like I was driving around with my
nieces not too long ago. We were driving someplace an hour and a half
away. They counted fifty something bigfoot stickers on. Was kind of bigfoot stickers
because, okle piler, bigfoot whatever. Man, there's a lot of bigfoot
stickers. I know it's our fault because of the show popularity exploding it into
the public space. But it's hard to tell if someone's into bigfoot or if
somebody just has bigfoot sticker, bigfoot shirt, bigfoot coffee mug. What are
you serious? Are you a real bigfoot person or you just you're just want
to be aren't you You're just oh do you want to talk to you?
But the amount of people doing real research whatever that even means anymore seems to
be dwindling. We've got the usual suspects here in Washington. Wifers been doing
it a long time, still doing it. That's one of the things about
going to these Bigfoot presentations symposiums that I'm going to hear Cliff Cliff always has
good talks, usually has something new to talk about. Meldream's going to give
his talk that he's got several hand ones. But a lot of times it's
the same thing. It's a bunch of people talking about stuff they don't know
about. I don't have any new evidence, so let's go back pick apart
this old evidence or footage. It's been a long time since I've been to
one of these things where somebody has something roundbreaking to talk about. It's all
a bunch of maybe what if. I love the mystery of that. That's
what drew me into it, trying to figure out, trying to get answers.
But going to these things, if I was the newbie, didn't know
anything about anything, I don't know if I'd be convinced. But a lot
of people to have pretty soft brains, they're convinced of anything. They could
know nothing. Go to squatch fest walk out of there with bag at stickers,
bigfoot salad toms, whatever, be like, I'm convinced. I'm a
believer now. But you take that same person out to the woods in the
dark, They're not into it so much anymore. I've seen a lot of
people melt. This isn't for me. Wind's it scary? Then when there's
the possibility of oh wait, there's an eight, but tell what out here
that might be like, don't worry, it's all good. You're gonna be
totally safe. I'm gonna duc tape you to this tree or Sam and guts
honey all over you and play a recording of a crying baby. Everything is
gonna be fine. It's gonna be fine. I want to go back to
the conference. I don't like the deal with you, man. I've seen
it plenty of times, Tyler. I have had a blast talking to you.
Man. It's awesome to me. I'm really glad that we accidentally got
you on the show. It's been awesome. Yeah. Likewise, they say
you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. I don't want to
be out step step chid, this child, that child, everything come right
back, right back, joy for me, joy staying right. You come
in right away, still stick step, step, steps, shaking, knocking down dotssssstsssssssssss