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Hey, everybody, this is Left
Strive. Yes, yes, I

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know aka Survivor Man, and you're
listening to Brian on Sasquatch Ads. Hey

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there, welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank you so much for being with

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us for the show. It is
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great week. We have an amazing
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I got to sit down with Tyler
Bounds, and I honestly didn't have any

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idea who Tyler was. Everybody knows. I don't really get deep into the

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woods on encounters and emails and things
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the show, So I was pleasantly
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were talking during his interview, he
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show. Finding Bigfoot outside of the
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week. Tyler had some amazing stories
about working on that show and some of

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his personal experiences, including a story
that he surprised me with about possibly hitting

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a sasquatch while he was working on
finding Bigfoot. But I'll let Tyler tell

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you all about that in just a
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I know you guys are ready to
get into it. Tyler's on the line,

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he's ready to go. Just sit
back, relax, and enjoy the

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show. Old to welcome our guest
to the show. It is Tyler from

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Washington. Welcome to the show.
Man. Hey, thanks, thanks for

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having me. I'm glad to have
you. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.

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What got you interested in the subject? To begin with? What got

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me interested is when I was four
or five years old, have been like

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in nineteen seventy five nineteen seventy six, I was on a height with my

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grandfather. He was a boy Scout
leader and he took his boy Scout troop

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out. He lived in southern Oregon. I was down there with my family

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for a family reunion. He had
double booked himself, so I ended up

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going with him on this hike in
the northern California somewhere. At the time

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I didn't know. Actually, it
was only about two years ago when I

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found out where it actually happened.
When I was on a hike with my

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grandfather walking down this trail, he
stopped. Everybody put up his hand.

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Two bigfoots across the trail, probably
seventy eighty feet in front of us,

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A big one, A bigger one. I had no idea what bigfoot was.

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I remember when I was a little
kid, my very favorite TV show

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in the world was this show called
Land of the Loss. There was a

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little caveman kid, Chaka. I
remember thinking that the smaller thing that I

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saw reminded me of Chaka from Land
of the Lost. I remember a bunch

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of hubbub. Next thing I know, he apparently had plaster of Paris in

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one of the vehicles that were back
wherever we had parked. He passed two

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footprints. We went back to his
ranch in Ashland, Oregon, and I

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remember him picking these plaster footprint casts, putting them up against this outbuilding where

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there were probably ten, twelve,
fifteen other footprint casts. I remember looking

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at those. Wow. Okay,
I had no idea what had occurred.

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I had no idea that there was
no such thing as bigfoot. I just

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saw two critters. It was like
seeing deer, it was like seeing grasshoppers,

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it was like seeing a frog.
Anything else as far as I knew

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at that point, in time.
I remember my parents talking about it later

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because it was a big deal that
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My mother used to tell me that
every time I watched Lando Loss after

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that, I would see little Harry
chaka bigfoot thing, and like, that's

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what I saw with Grandpa. So
that went on for a while. Every

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time we would go back down to
my grandparents' ranch, they had a big

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five thousand acre ranch in southern Oregon
outside of Ashland, Oregon, I would

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go over to that outbuilding look at
those footprints. When I was seven eight

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years old, figuring stuff out.
Then after that I started checking out bigfoot

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books at the library. Growing up
in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains here

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in Washington, I was hearing stories
from woggers outdoors, people seeing Chainsaw Carving's

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bigfoot. This sasquatched that that was
the spark of a lifelong interest in bigfoot,

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bigfoot phenomenon. It's full weird thing. That's how that started. Everybody's

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right there with you, including me. We've all went down the rabbit hole.

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I know. In your email you
mentioned that that had led to a

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lot of great adventures, which again
That's one of the things I love about

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Bigfooting. Bigfooting is one of those
things where you meet some of the greatest

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people in the world. I've met
lifelong friends from doing the show. I've

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gotten to travel to places do things
I would have never done before had it

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not been for Bigfoot. What kind
of adventures have you had in the world.

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In nineteen ninety two, drove down
to Lake Tahoe for my grandparents' fiftieth

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wedding anniversary. On my way back, I decided that I was going to

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take a detour to the Willow Creek, Bluff Creek, go up in the

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mountains look for Bigfoot. I had
no idea what I was doing. I

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had a couple Bigfoot books that I
owned. I went into Willow Creek,

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ended up going into a store.
Didn't know at at the time, but

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Wynn talked to Al Hodgson, who's
since passed away, but he gave me

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some map. I bought John Green's
books. He personally put some locations on

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this map because Al was there when
the whole thing happened with Patterson, Gimlin

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Fell, and all that stuff that
was happening in the mid to late sixties.

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In northern California because he had the
Merchantile or whatever there in Willow Creek.

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So I had this map, I
had some books, I had a

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flashlight, drove up into the hills, no idea what I'm doing. I'm

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driving a rental car with the windows
rolled down. In any sound I heard,

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I would stop running into the woods
with the flashlight. Is that's what

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she'd do? You are going to
go chase down a bigfoot. I'm not

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thinking that could be bear, should
be a cougar. If it is a

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bigfoot, what am I going to
do when I catch it? When it

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catches me? Like? What am
I doing? But that was my first

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bigfoot expedition June of nineteen ninety two. It was the greatest thing I had

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ever done. I was so stoked
on it coming out of will Creek with

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it. Put coffee mug map that
al Hodson had written on that I have

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since lost. That I really wish
that I had because he was such an

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influential character in the whole history of
bigfoery back then all of John Green's on

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the track of the Sasquatch. So
I was always into it. I'm a

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lifelong hiker, backpacker, outdoors person. So every time I would go hiking,

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backpacking, always have that third eye
listening for stuff, looking for footprints,

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that sort of thing. So I
was always really into it. Years

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go by, I've moved here and
moved there, lived here and lived there.

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I lived in Alaska for several years. When I came back from Alaska,

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through a weird set of circumstances,
ended up going on a exhibition with

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a BFRO here in Washington in two
thousand and eight. Life changing experience.

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It was crazy. My dad.
I went because my dad, who was

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there when I saw the things with
my grandfather, he was into it.

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I would check out books in the
library. He would read my books as

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well, because it was a cool
father son thing to go do. Let's

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go on a bigfoot exhibition. That's
cool, this is the thing. I

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had a great time, met a
bunch of great people. A bunch of

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those people brought me into the fold, invited me to other outings BFRO affiliated

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associated but not official Borrow things.
Hanging out with those people. They recognized

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in me that I knew my way
around the woods, I know what critters

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are. I went to college for
geology, paleontology, all that so I

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know history, evolution, animals.
I'm a lifelong nature nerd. They knew

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that. If we heard a sound
at night, I'm like, oh my

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gosh, that's a big foot.
I'm for nightkawk. That's cool. Oh

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frog. Not jumping to conclusions.
Other people be tripping out like, oh

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my god, did you hear that? Like it's coyote. No, it's

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not like it's a coyote, dude, I've heard lots of coyotes. I

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was accepted pretty readily into the BFRORO
zeitgeist of that time. Over the years,

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attended several more expeditions with the BFRO, ended up leading expeditions, facilitating,

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leading researching BFRORO expeditions here in Washington, in Oregon, in Idaho.

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I've been to BFRORO expeditions in Virginia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Minnesota,

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floating all over the place. I
don't know how much research you've done on

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me at all, But all this
culminated. When was that two thousand and

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nine twenty ten? I think it
was two. I was a part of

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a group we took Bob Saggot into
the woods here in Washington, the Olympic

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Peninsula with ten three days in the
woods with Bob Saggitt is crazy. It

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was an invite only thing. I
was really lucky to be invited hanging out

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with people who are friends of mine, have been friends of mine for a

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long time, a lot of people
from Washington, some of the Oregon people.

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But that production company looked at all
this. I was like, Wow,

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this is a thing, this is
interesting. These guys are all weird.

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Long story short, that same production
company came up with the show Finding

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Bigfoot. I ended up working on
the Animal Planet TV show Finding Bigfoot for

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about five years, traveling all over
the country with the cast crew. I

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was the outdoor technician. I know
you've seen Finding Bigfood. I listened to

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your podcast. You were on Cliff
and Bobo's podcast months ago. I don't

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listen to many podcasts, but I
do listen to Cliff Bobes because they cracked

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me up. But yeah, on
the TV show, every episode, well

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from season two on, every episode, one of the cast members would go

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out by themselves to the woods.
I was the one that went with them,

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filmed them by themselves. It was
pretty cool. I mean, for

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a while, for several years,
I was one of the only people in

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the world that was getting paid to
go look for bigfoot, hang out with

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my friends, go camping, look
for bigfoots, travel all over the country.

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Going from me being a four or
five year old kid to reading all

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this books, watching all this documentaries, watching in search of every cheeseball bigfoot

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documentary, TV show, movie,
how all that came around to then me

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making a cheeseball TV show. Getting
to meet so many people, but Berrickman

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is one of my best friends,
going down to his house to Margo,

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hang out with Matt Prewitt. Matt
Preuit's one of my Titus Rose from way

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back. I'm really excited to see
him tomorrow. I haven't seen him ten

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years since his ex condition in South
Carolina, like two thousand and thirteen,

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I think, So, I'm really
excited about that. But getting to meet

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authors, people whose books I read
when I was young. Wow, I'm

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in John Burn's house hanging out with
John Byrne, who's talking about hunting tigers

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or getting to paddle a kayak around
Boggy Creek being paid for it. Come

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on, Holy mackerel. I got
to do so many dumb bucket list things,

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just super bigfoot nerd stuff that there
was a lot of times where I

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had to just take a step back. Wow, this is what I'm doing,

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this is my job. In the
ensuing years, since two thousand and

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eight, I have found footprints out
the wild audio recording from here in Washington

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of something that was yelling at us, streaming at us from I don't know,

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a mile away, half a mile
away, way down this valley where

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there's no people. This thing is
just yelling loud. You could feel it

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in your chest. It was insane. I've never you hear stories about vocalizations

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experiencing that feeling that especially. There
were some skeptics that were with me that

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were freaking out, one of which
now he's full on bigfoot nerd down in

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Oregon, his wife do be a
ro exhibitions, little bigfoot festivals, bigfoot

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running brews. Yeah, seeing skeptics
eyes like pop out of the school,

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like WHA what is that? I
don't know. I'm a hunter. I've

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shot everything. I have no idea
what that is. In experiences while on

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the show, while filming the show, a lot of stuff that it's either

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too ambiguous for TV, it doesn't
look good on TV, or the classic

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the trail cam stopped working we didn't
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That sort of thing a cliff.
I woke up one morning to sound like

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yelling is like the best way I
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We were in New Jersey, of
all places, which is wild. We

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were in the pine barrens of New
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of the most wild places, wild
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turtles, snakes, birds, The
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life going on, really blew my
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Jersey, but whatever this noise was, it woke us up. We both

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hopped out of the tents like,
oh my gosh, you have the audio

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set up. Yeah, Oly,
you set it up last night. Went

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over the batteries. The eternal curse
of the camera stopped working. Batteries suddenly

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did SD car filled up. Whatever
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reason, stops working right when you
need it at the most. There was

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also a pretty infamous episode in Virginia
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rental cars two in the morning,
coming back from setting up trail cameras,

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bait stations, all the stuff for
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off dirt road onto a paved road, this highway, finally going back to

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the hotel, which is an hour
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it's two in the morning. I
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doing my production stuff for the TV
show. I looked down at the cruise

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control controls because I can finally drive
over twenty miles an hour. I looked

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up. There was something standing in
the road. I hit it, messed

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up the van. I stopped immediately
turn around. I thought that I had

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hit a person, some drunk hillbilly
out of the middle of nowhere. Turned

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around. There was nothing there.
There was nothing in the road. I

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yelled for this person for quite a
while. Come out, dude, I'll

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help you. I'll drive you to
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me, like why would a person
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road in this foggy place, adjacent
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I had a thermal imager with me. I'd bust about out looking for

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body heat. There's these fields all
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fields, there's cows, and it's
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side. Then it starts dawning on
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wasn't a human. But I'm also
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bigfoot nerd working on a bigfoot show, coming back from setting up bigfoot bait

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stations, a bunch of camera traps
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Come on, really, but I
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and injured somebody white a while there
was nobody. I immediately got on

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the phone woke him up. I'm
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up. Is if you're calling me
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reason. So I told him what
happened. He said, to bust out

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your audio recorder. Record everything on
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So I was just talking to the
other recorder, called my buddy, Matt

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Bruitt. He was still living in
Oklahoma at that time. Woke him up

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because I was freaking out. I
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this day that I had hit a
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a person. So I was very
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in looking at the damage to the
car, and I'm going to be in

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trouble for this. What am I
going to my producer? I hit a

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bigfoot. I actually considered telling him
that I went off the road. I

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had a stomp, point to the
ditch something, so that it would be

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more plausible. I thought I would
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that, But I ended u up
telling them what happens. We couldn't really

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use it for the TV show because
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we break that fourth wall where the
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even though besides the cast, I
was the longest running production member of that

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show finding Bigfoot while it was going. But they we can't really do anything

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with this. We can't say Tyler
was out driving around, none of the

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cast was with him. We took
some DNA swap, We did our due

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diligence, did our thing. One
of the cast members whose name I won't

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share, she touched the rear view
mirror. Because when I hit whatever I

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hit, when I looked up,
it was standing right there. I hit

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it driver's side front corner. My
driver's side mirror bashed in. Then something

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hit the top of the van.
People have said, maybe it was a

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deer, maybe it's coyote. It
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I've seen coyotes. I thought it
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some smears smudges on the car.
And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to

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see. We'll be right back after
these messages. I looked for hair after

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it happened, because you know how
to do all this stuff as well.

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Didn't see anything. I went over
this car before I drove one hundred and

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fifty miles whatever it was back to
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yes, I looked for hair.
There was no hair. But somebody,

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look, there's a big smudge here
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your bare hand all over it.
Okay, you're the scientist, whatever,

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but I won't mention that name.
That next day, I was so out

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of it, so distraught about what
I thought had happened, the possibility that

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I hid somebody hit a human being
Homo sapiens. That my producer had one

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of our production assistants every hospital within
two hundred miles to see if anybody had

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been admitted. Nobody had. Then
my producer on our lunch break. He

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came over, was like, get
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I can't stand you looking like this. We drove down to the spot where

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it happened, in broad daylight,
middle of the day. I went down

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there. I crawled down every little
rabbit hole in the brambles, the briers,

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every bush looking for blood, A
dead deer, a dead coyote,

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dead person, a hurt person,
anything that would solve that mystery. Put

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my mind to rest. I spent
hours down there until dude, we got

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to get back because we got to
film this bit with everybody back to the

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location. So never did find out
what it was, never did find anything.

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One of the other cast members,
I'm just going to say his name,

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Matthew J. Moneymaker on Twitter that
quite being Bigfoot bfro researcher finding Bigfoot

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production. Something hit a Bigfoot with
the car last night, so it went

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out on Twitter. Of course,
that opened up huge can of worms.

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So for a while, I don't
do it much anymore. I used to

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be pretty active, like on Bigfoot
forums, some of the forums back in

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the day. Back to the day
sounds so dumb, but yeah, fifteen

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years ago, Dolly Cheapers fifteen years
ago. Wow, getting into online SPACs

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with people like you didn't hit a
bigfoot. I didn't say I hit a

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bigfoot. Moneymakers said I hit a
bigfoot. But there's still stuff. Actually,

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somebody sent me a Reddit post this
a little while ago. A picture

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of me is something like Tyler Boun's
tool of the corporate Bigfoot industrial complex claimed

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the fame he hit a bigfoot with
car, but doesn't have any proof to

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back him up. I'm just like, this is still happening ten years later,

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there's still people posting online about Tyler
Brown's just being full of crap,

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which is hilarious. Always used to
laugh about when people talk about bigfoot drama

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in the bigfoot community, Like,
how can there be drama? What are

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you talking about all these years later? Oh that drama? I know?

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No, you don't, Yes,
I do. No, I know more

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than you. You're just doing it
for money. You're just on a TV

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show, you just want to whatever. So ridiculous. So, yeah,

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that's the thing that happened. I've
had other very ambiguous things happened in the

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woods, Trees being pushed over,
very coincidental times, that sort of thing,

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smacking on a tree with some baseball
bat doing your standard wood dogs this

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is what we do, and hanging
out and then a tree falls over.

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It's weird to say, but I
know that there's bigfoots. I've seen them.

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I've seen footprints the wild with my
own eyes, footprints that I found

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both on a riverbank in the snow. I've heard things that I can't explain.

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I've traveled all over this country,
interviewed hundreds, hundreds of people.

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There's a lot of people that have
seen things that can't be explained away.

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They know what they saw, They're
convinced what they saw. I've also interviewed

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lots of people that are so full
of crap. Cliff I were talking about

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it a while ago, how we
wished that we would have kept track of

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all the people we interviewed, people
we talked to, if we'd had a

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little tally sheet liar or truth lie. But we were talking about it.

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We both think maybe seventy percent of
the people that we talked to, people

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that we encountered, witnesses, people
that came to our town halls legitimately believe

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what they saw. People that lose
their mind Bryan talking about their story,

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or somebody that they don't know that
lives a mile or two away that saw

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the same thing the same night.
These two people don't know each other.

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When they meet there prying, hugging, they're getting that validation thought they're insane

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all these years. Then someone else
has the same story, same thing on

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the other side of the river,
just a couple miles away, on the

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other side of the woods or whatever. When those two people come together doesn't

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just make good TV, it's very
compelling. This lends a lot of weight

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to the fact that there's something out
there that people see that same people see.

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They can't explain it. So I'm
convinced that there's some things out there

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more than one, not just the
Bigfoot. My grandmothers to say, you're

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chasing that bigfoot around. Now,
your grandpa he used to chase that big

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old thing around. I'm like,
there's more than one. No. That's

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one of my favorite things about Bigfoot
is the people that think there's just one.

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I used to be that way when
I was a kid. I thought

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there was one Bigfoot. It was
somewhere out west. It was nowhere near

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Georgia where I grew up, certainly
not in the southeastern United States. Tyler

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I had no idea who you were. Man, I told you a little

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bit before we went on. I've
said this on the air. It's not

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really the secret sauce anymore. But
one of the things that I do is

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I like to hear people's encounters the
first time when they're in front of me

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on the show. I don't get
into the emails. I don't dig in.

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I know people do pre interviews.
I'm definitely not that dude. I

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like to hear it in real time. So I had no idea. Had

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I known that you were coming on. If you were who you were,

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I would have called Cliff today gotten
some of the behind the scenes so we

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could have talked some shit about you
on the air. Or Matt, I'm

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going to get to hang out with
those guys in Ohio, so I'm looking

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forward to that. Yeah, I'm
doing the Ohio Bigfoot Conference for the first

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time. Cliff was like, why
don't you just come hang out with me

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and my booth. Matt's going to
be there. I think Doug Hihcheck's going

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to be there. It's going to
be a good time. You'll have to

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tell those guys I said hello when
you see him tomorrow. When you go

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to Cliff's house. Yeah, I
haven't seen through it since I was filming

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in Kentucky. Knock over to his
expedition. I totally just under a blanket

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in the truck. He saw these
people I was with. Then I snuck

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out, just went over to the
campfire with a beer. Was just standing

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there and I was telling some story. Looked over at me. He's like,

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oly shit. Matt I used to
run around a lot here in Washington

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when he lived here. We were
the two trouble makers, questioning everybody's experiences.

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A lot of people started to dislike
us because we didn't just take everything

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at face value. Oh, bigfoot
came out on my tart, Like,

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how do you know it was a
bigfoot? Because that's what bigfoots do.

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I don't think bigfoot. He sees
a blue tarps, Oh my gosh,

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I gotta go well on this tarp, expose myself. Even though I'm super

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stealthy hiding, nobody can find me. But I see blue tarp. Yeah,

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I get to see through it.
Tomorrow. Meldrum is doing a thing

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at Cliffs Museum tomorrow, so I'm
going down there for that, and then

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Matt is presenting at this thing called
squatch Fest that we have here starting Friday,

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because Matt has his book out now, which I still haven't read because

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I'm waiting for him give me my
copy. I don't want to just go

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buy one off Amazon. I knew
he was going to be here. I'll

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send you one. No, dude, when you come to Washington, you're

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going to give me one from your
hands, not Amazon, not some reseller.

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You are going to give me your
book. Thing dong. I'm really

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stoked. I'm really stoked to see
through it. I did say something that

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clipped a little while the other day
that I was going to come because I

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had no idea who you were.
Either you put something on Reddit. In

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the past, I've answered a couple
other things, but usually or I won't

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say usually because I don't know.
But other times somebody has said, Hey,

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does somebody have any big coot encounters? You want to come on my

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podcast? I'm like, I'll come
on your podcast that has twelve views.

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I've done some sketchy ones, some
guys down south back East. You guys

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even know you didn't even spell sasquatch
right, so I would It's like it's

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a sympathy podcast. I have a
certain amount of notoriety. But maybe you

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can spill my name right, put
it on your website. You might get

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more than twelve people tuning in the
goodness in my heart. I'm going to

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help your little podcast. Then you
did the same thing. I'm like,

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sure, did all going your silly
little thing tell my Bigfoot story? Then?

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Oh, it's a sass hechocracy guy. Oh he doesn't need me.

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He doesn't need me at all.
But I'm totally glad to finally make your

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acquaintance be part of this. So
it's an honor for me, a privilege

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to be invited on. I didn't
know how much vetting you had done of

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me or anything. Some people don't, so I'm glad that it was a

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pleasant surprise for you, not just
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But it threw a rocket me ran
off. It was the most incredible experience

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in my life. Yeah, I
have a few more tales than just I

405
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:02.480
saw something weird in the woods once
next the next contestant, please. I

406
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.440
love the pleasant surprises. Man.
I will definitely have to give a copy

407
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.799
of my book when I meet you
in person. Cliff was nice enough to

408
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.200
write the forward to the book.
That's one of the things that people will

409
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.000
get to. Yes, he did. The forward to my book should be

410
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:15.559
out. The pre sales going on
now. If you guys are listening to

411
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:21.160
this now, it'll be out for
everybody in mid to late February, Sasquatch

412
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.119
unleashed the truth behind the legend,
you get a forward by Cliff Barrackman of

413
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.720
all people, nice the man from
finding Bigfoot. It's funny that you mentioned

414
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:30.839
the story. I had no idea. As many times as I've talked to

415
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.000
Matt. I hung out with those
guys, Matt Moneymaker, Cliff, Matt

416
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.880
Renee, we're all in Tennessee over
the summer doing the Smoking Mount big Foot

417
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.079
conference. I hung out with those
guys. I was messaging with she who

418
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.680
shall not be named today. Had
I known the story that you told,

419
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.319
I would have may or may not
have given them some shit while we were

420
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.799
talking. But I didn't know the
story, so I couldn't do it at

421
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.599
that point. But as tully Pine, I don't get into it too much.

422
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.960
I spent all day every day with
all four of those people for several

423
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.079
years, been to the woods with
them. Just say that, Cliff,

424
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:09.119
are still besties to this day.
Cliff I are both weirdos, eccentric geeks.

425
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:13.240
Plus he only lives a couple hours
away from me, so we get

426
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.079
together often. But I love Bobo. I knew all the cast members for

427
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.799
the show. I knew her Anee
before the show when she was just a

428
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:25.079
fish councher here in Washington who had
an experience. She's had a couple of

429
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:30.839
experiences, but she will admit to
them now because she's skeptic. But she

430
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.559
definitely had some beefs over the years. Yeah, I guess we're no longer

431
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:43.119
friends. She blocked me on the
social media's that's when you know you've made

432
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.839
it because I've got a couple of
those friends or former friends in the Bigfoot

433
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.039
community. When I get blocked out
of their groups, I can no longer

434
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.839
even find them. They don't exist
on Facebook. I guess that's a whole

435
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:57.400
level of made it when you get
blocked by somebody who is somebody in the

436
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.519
Bigfoot community. So I don't know, I think a bad of honor.

437
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:05.160
I wear it with pride in a
way. Yeah, I don't mind.

438
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.759
Not that I want to go hang
out with Brenee, even though she lives

439
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.920
pretty close to me. She's up
in Seattle, hour away from me.

440
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.519
We have hung out in the past, but I've made it be known to

441
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.279
her face things over the years.
That's not a big fan of hers.

442
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:30.359
She got me in trouble more than
once on the TV show just because of

443
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:35.880
her ineptitude. I'm trying to be
politically correct nice here because you never know

444
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:40.720
who's listening. You should hear what
Tyler was saying about you on whatever podcast.

445
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.839
There's only like fifteen people that are
going to hear this, so there's

446
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:50.200
no pressure. Actually, just got
a text message from one of my coworkers

447
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.519
the other day. I'm at home
right now. The TV is on the

448
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.240
background. I heard a voice and
I looked over. You're on my TV

449
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.160
talking about Bickfoot. Yeah. That's
the thing that happens every once in a

450
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.160
while, whenever there's like a Finding
Bigfook marathon or something. That was in

451
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:08.360
several episodes as well. Tyler Bowns
leader of the Washington BFRO, Tyler Brown's

452
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.880
leader of the Oregon bfro O.
Tyler Browns member of the Georgia BFRO.

453
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:19.239
Tyler Bownes part of the Minnesota Idaho
or we do a recreation I was laying

454
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.360
in my tent. I heard a
noise. I sat up, so I

455
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.840
get in the tape. I set
up there filming me. Some days.

456
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.920
Someone's going to figure all this out. Wait, this is the same guy.

457
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:31.760
Just my name is Tyler Browns.
I play a BFRO investigator on TV

458
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:36.719
from multiple states. Then I'm the
guy in the t and then I'm the

459
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.199
guy on the motorcycle, and I'm
the guy on the horse. Then you're

460
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.079
dB Cooper. You shot jails.
Okay, it's funny you say that.

461
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:47.239
Because I have a YouTube channel called
Pacific North Weird, I am often putting

462
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:53.159
on bigfoot suits. I did play
dB Cooper in one of our videos.

463
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:58.880
I have played Daby Cooper actually,
which is funny. There's a psychic connection

464
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.280
going on here. I'd be remiss
if I didn't ask before we close out.

465
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.119
Here's the thing for me, I
haven't seen a sasquatch. I've had

466
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.719
some weird experiences. I have found
footprints very much like you. I've talked

467
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.480
about this on the show. People
are probably rolling in their eyes, but

468
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.639
I've never talked to you about it. I'm on a hike this past summer.

469
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.679
I come across what looks like I
think it's footprint paradolia in the water

470
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.119
of Big Creek. I'm like,
holy shit, that looks like a footprint.

471
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.840
That's really cool. I'm thinking,
I'm just going to take a picture

472
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.639
of that because it looks like a
footprint. Then I start looking. I

473
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.360
see toes, it's smushed down.
I see a heel. It's about fourteen

474
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:36.760
inches. Holy shit, that looks
like a foot So I snapped a couple

475
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.159
of pictures of it. I wasn't
doing anything Bigfoot related. We were just

476
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.719
on a hike. I wasn't even
going to take my phone on this hike

477
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.440
because I was getting away from Bigfoot, Like Bigfoot is my job, it's

478
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:46.519
my life. So I just wanted
to get out of my woods and enjoy

479
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:50.639
the woods. I come across this
footprint. I put it out on social

480
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.000
media. People are like, oh, man, that looks like a footprint.

481
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.800
I'm sitting having a drink with Cliff
in Idaho this past summer. It

482
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.480
was like July or August. I
said, hey, ude, let me

483
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.199
just show you this. I give
my cell phone I'm showing in the picture

484
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:07.639
and Cliff goes, dude, that's
a Sasquatch footprint. I'm like, are

485
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.519
you shitting me? No, dude, it's actually a really good looking sasquatch

486
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.039
footprint. Did you cast it?
I'm like, no, I didn't cast

487
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:16.880
it. It was in water,
it was raining, it was raining the

488
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.920
next day. I didn't have any
material with me. You should have casted

489
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:22.440
it. That's a really good footprint. I'm like, oh, they shit.

490
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.800
So I said all that to say
I found things. I've heard things.

491
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.519
I've been on expeditions with Todd Standing
in Canada this past October. I

492
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:35.320
had some weird experiences there. I
think I live interacted with a sasquatch,

493
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:40.639
possibly through wood knocks, whoops,
samurai chatter. But I'm still it's hard

494
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:45.480
for me to say one hundred percent
because I am a skeptical person. My

495
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.079
brain it wants the evidence, right, that empirical data. Let me ask

496
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.679
you this, You've had a lot
of experiences. Let's take the experience obviously

497
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.199
where you saw too when you were
a kid with your granddad, take all

498
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.800
that stuff away. Has there been
something, as far as evidence that maybe

499
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:06.599
you've seen on the show, outside
of the show, on expedition that you

500
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.519
found yourself whatever, Is there anything
that would have convinced you outside of your

501
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:16.079
siding as a child with your granddad
that these things are real. If so,

502
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.159
what is that evidence. I don't
think I would be one hundred percent

503
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.840
convinced if I hadn't seen them.
Other things that have happened separately don't make

504
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.519
a lot of sense. But in
the context of where we were, what

505
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.519
we were doing, what was going
on, the time of year, the

506
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:36.679
seasons, When you take all that
together, it's very compelling. The footprint

507
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:40.320
that I've found here in Washington that
I have a photo of, I was

508
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:45.360
walking on a logging road. There's
a creekret there, little sandy spot footprint

509
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:52.400
right there. It goes into godzillion
acres of forest on the other side of

510
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.280
that. I'm like, holy shit, dude, there's a footprint down there.

511
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.840
I get down, you know,
make my way down there through the

512
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.599
brambles. I'm eight feet away from
it. Oh my gosh, dude,

513
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.960
footprint. My dog was with me. My dog passed on the rest in

514
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.840
piece Mojo. He just runs all
over the place, does his dog thing

515
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.320
whatever. All of a sudden he
came out of nowhere, went right over

516
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.639
the top of that footprint, galloped
right over it. I think he purposely,

517
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.639
like how many of my feat Can
I get into this fourteen inch space

518
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:30.480
because it just obliterated it. No, I've seen good footprints that are very

519
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:36.400
that's a footprint, that's definitely a
footprint, like you were saying the paradolia

520
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:44.559
or some water feature erosion whatever.
I've seen some very questionable footprints that people

521
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.000
like, No, dude, there's
toes little clip says went in doubt cast

522
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:52.800
it, which what we do.
But then Cliff has an amazing clutch of

523
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.920
footprints. A lot of them are
like that's a footprint, and a lot

524
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:59.199
of them are like that's a chunk
of plaster with a bunch of rocks pine

525
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.159
needles in it. But yeah,
there's the heel. Yep, Yeah,

526
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.000
I see it. Yeah. I
love Cliff. Like I said, he's

527
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:06.960
one of my best sies. I
gave him crap all the time. He

528
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:13.039
gives me crap all the time.
I don't think I would be inventced today

529
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:19.800
where everybody has a high quality video
camera in their pocket at all times.

530
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:25.159
It seems like the footage that people
get just gets worse worse worse. Do

531
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:30.400
we need to take a thirty five
milimeter film camera into the woods, put

532
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:35.599
it on a saddle bag on a
horse to get good footage because we haven't

533
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.159
gone anything since. There is some
stuff that is very convincing, some stuff

534
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.800
out there, but oh my gosh, I really don't spend much time on

535
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.719
internet social media. People send me
links all the time to do much.

536
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.079
This thing on YouTube, no or
the Big Hubbub a little while ago,

537
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.559
the thing in Colorado. I was
immediately like, no, dude, that's

538
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.840
the most cheesy looking sasas unless it
just came out of the salon. It's

539
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:06.280
terrible. We did an episode in
Durango. I was there for two weeks

540
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.760
during pre production. I took that
Durango to Silverton train just for kicks one

541
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:15.400
time, Like I'm in Colorado,
I'm doing research, so I knew exactly

542
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:17.760
where that happened. I knew that
there's a road right there. It's not

543
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:22.079
out middle of nowhere. I kept
telling people like, it's not real,

544
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.760
dude, what do you know?
More than you not to pump myself up

545
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:29.239
or anything. But you're asking me, just like the people that send me

546
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.039
audio recordings, what is this.
They send me an audio recording, it's

547
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:36.320
an owl, and they're like,
your skeptic. Whatever, I'm going to

548
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:38.119
send it to Cliff, someone who
believes I'm like, go for it,

549
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:42.960
and then Cliff calls me, as
dude, who's this person sending me the

550
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:50.119
owl recordings because they want an expert? The dearth of compelling, convincing footage.

551
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:54.239
Why it's so lacking all of a
sudden, trail cameras are so cheap

552
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.400
now they used to be so expensive. You can go down to Camar,

553
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.400
not Kmar. I don't think Kmart. Oh my gosh, I'm showing my

554
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.639
age. It's the Blue Light Special. Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to

555
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:15.440
see. We'll be right back after
these messages. Don't go down to Dick's

556
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.039
Sporting Goods anywhere. Why a trail
camera for fifty bucks on it to us

557
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.519
to be like three four hundred dollars
not that long ago, but people put

558
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.440
up tons of trail cameras all over
the place. I see when I'm out

559
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.360
hiking, I go out looking for
mushrooms, often just walking down a trail

560
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:36.760
and look over their zone O camera
out here hidden. I'm often asked,

561
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:42.320
why is there such a lack of
footage something convincing? Why is every Bigfoot

562
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:47.119
TV show after ours such a piece
of crap because they're all scripted. Ours

563
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:52.800
were not scripted. We just did
wherever we wanted. We didn't let producers

564
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:57.960
or the network control us or make
us do things we didn't want to do.

565
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:02.880
I don't know. It's that there
can be so many reports but so

566
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:12.119
little evidence besides footprints. Unless there's
just a lot less bigfoots now than there

567
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.480
used to be, which could be
could be separated, but there's still often

568
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:21.679
here in Oregon, British Columbia there's
reports. I spent a lot of time

569
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.719
in Ohio because I used to drive
the U haul truck for finding Bigfoot.

570
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:30.000
I've driven coast to coast five times
in a U haul. I'm in every

571
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.440
state Exceptarine North Dakota looking for big
I guess I wasn't looking for bigfoods in

572
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.639
Hawaii. But it's like every time
you drive, Wow, I'm in Ohio

573
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:39.760
again. Anytime you're going east to
west or west east, I guess it's

574
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.039
rual you have to go through Ohio. I know a lot of Ohio people

575
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.760
have been to the Ohio Conference.
There's been quite a few years now since

576
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.519
I've been there, and goes there. In twenty thirteen was the last time

577
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.440
AGREE what happened? Where did all
the time go going to salt or there'd

578
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.599
be stuff happening, and now it's
SEMs like it's wided down. Places that

579
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:07.519
were hotspots seem to be not as
hot for some reason, or I'm just

580
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.599
not paying attention, or I've just
blocked it out because there's so many people

581
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:15.000
that are full of shit nowadays that
instead of trying to filter all that,

582
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.280
I just choose not engage. I've
gone full circle, just back to doing

583
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.519
what I do here in Washington,
like you were saying, going backpacking like

584
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:30.599
I used to, without video cameras, batteries, extra SD cars, lights,

585
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:36.079
power cables, chargers, fifty pounds
worth of crap, a baseball bat,

586
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.000
a bunch of col in your backpack. I'm just going to go to

587
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:42.639
the woods. I'm in a super
great big footy spot not very far from

588
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.719
where I got amazing audio recording.
I'm just going to go snowshoeing, Just

589
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:52.199
go out into nature. Gone down
an old decommissioned logging road covered in snow.

590
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:58.920
Oh look, there's great big footprints
that are four feet apart in a

591
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:04.719
straight line going down this road.
I didn't have a camera. I have

592
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.360
my phone but I'm a photographer as
well, so I usually have fancy pants

593
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:10.920
camera with a bunch of lenses.
But I was just going quick, like

594
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.280
I don't even have a tape measure, Like all I have is I'm putting

595
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:20.039
my hiking pull in between the footprints
taking a video, like I don't even

596
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.159
have anything. I don't even have
a dollar for scale. You know,

597
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:28.400
it's just I'm just out here walking. I can't help to find bigfoot footprints.

598
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.719
You know, even when it was
just a little while ago, or

599
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:36.239
maybe a couple of years ago,
that I went backpacking middle of the night

600
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.920
on this river bank, I heard
something walking on the rocks. It's probably

601
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.000
just elk. They listen, that's
a person or somebody by peedle. I

602
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:51.679
don't have anything. I'm laying there
with my phone just top recording me just

603
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.039
talking. And you can hear on
the river bank and like here I am

604
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.679
in my tent, not doing big
footy stuff. I think there's a big

605
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:02.440
thing on the river bank there.
I didn't go out to look for it.

606
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.239
I didn't go out to try to
get video or chase it down.

607
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:12.599
I was just laughing to myself.
Actually I sent that to prew it because

608
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:19.239
It reminded me of when we were
both youngsters starting out everything's a Bigfoot and

609
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:23.159
making your notes videos once again,
the full circle thing, world famous bigfoot

610
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:28.559
expert sitting in his tent out middle
of nowhere by himself, I think there's

611
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.760
a big foot outside and went to
what are you going to do? It's

612
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.840
funny, but yeah, turning back
to that question, if I was to

613
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:42.360
be getting into bigfoot today, I
don't think i'd be convinced it's funny here

614
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.719
in Washington. I know it's all
over the place because I've talked to threugh

615
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:50.559
it other people around the country,
But you can't drive very far here in

616
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.079
Washington without coming up on a car
that's got a Bigfoot sticker on it.

617
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.519
Bigfoot, given a piece sign Bigfoot
with a flag Bigfoot. That's always the

618
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:04.079
same big but it's always facing to
the right. It's the same silhouette.

619
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.159
I'm glad to see you have a
different one. I'm glad your logo isn't

620
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:13.760
the cookie cutter bigfoot thing. But
I've talked to some people. I don't

621
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.360
say anything about who I am or
why I'm asking, but I'll like,

622
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:21.119
hey, nice bigfoot sticker, Like
yeah, dude, bigfoots all them like

623
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:27.239
really yeah, bigfoots. It's just
more of a simble of something. Oh

624
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.199
my word, I'm saying it again. In the if you saw a car

625
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.039
with a bigfoot sticker on it,
you're like chasing. I've done it,

626
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.000
followed a car, chase them down
they get out of the car in the

627
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.079
parking lot, Like you already got
a bigfoot sticker, which ye sounds how

628
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:44.239
you would meet other bigfoot nerds now, Like I was driving around with my

629
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.280
nieces not too long ago. We
were driving someplace an hour and a half

630
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:53.599
away. They counted fifty something bigfoot
stickers on. Was kind of bigfoot stickers

631
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:59.159
because, okle piler, bigfoot whatever. Man, there's a lot of bigfoot

632
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:04.199
stickers. I know it's our fault
because of the show popularity exploding it into

633
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:10.800
the public space. But it's hard
to tell if someone's into bigfoot or if

634
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:17.280
somebody just has bigfoot sticker, bigfoot
shirt, bigfoot coffee mug. What are

635
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.039
you serious? Are you a real
bigfoot person or you just you're just want

636
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:23.400
to be aren't you You're just oh
do you want to talk to you?

637
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:31.000
But the amount of people doing real
research whatever that even means anymore seems to

638
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:37.280
be dwindling. We've got the usual
suspects here in Washington. Wifers been doing

639
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.719
it a long time, still doing
it. That's one of the things about

640
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:49.079
going to these Bigfoot presentations symposiums that
I'm going to hear Cliff Cliff always has

641
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.800
good talks, usually has something new
to talk about. Meldream's going to give

642
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:59.760
his talk that he's got several hand
ones. But a lot of times it's

643
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:01.239
the same thing. It's a bunch
of people talking about stuff they don't know

644
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.079
about. I don't have any new
evidence, so let's go back pick apart

645
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.840
this old evidence or footage. It's
been a long time since I've been to

646
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:15.440
one of these things where somebody has
something roundbreaking to talk about. It's all

647
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:20.000
a bunch of maybe what if.
I love the mystery of that. That's

648
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.679
what drew me into it, trying
to figure out, trying to get answers.

649
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:28.760
But going to these things, if
I was the newbie, didn't know

650
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.360
anything about anything, I don't know
if I'd be convinced. But a lot

651
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:36.880
of people to have pretty soft brains, they're convinced of anything. They could

652
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:42.039
know nothing. Go to squatch fest
walk out of there with bag at stickers,

653
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.760
bigfoot salad toms, whatever, be
like, I'm convinced. I'm a

654
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.039
believer now. But you take that
same person out to the woods in the

655
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.519
dark, They're not into it so
much anymore. I've seen a lot of

656
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:57.119
people melt. This isn't for me. Wind's it scary? Then when there's

657
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.440
the possibility of oh wait, there's
an eight, but tell what out here

658
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.880
that might be like, don't worry, it's all good. You're gonna be

659
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.360
totally safe. I'm gonna duc tape
you to this tree or Sam and guts

660
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:14.519
honey all over you and play a
recording of a crying baby. Everything is

661
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.239
gonna be fine. It's gonna be
fine. I want to go back to

662
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:24.159
the conference. I don't like the
deal with you, man. I've seen

663
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.519
it plenty of times, Tyler.
I have had a blast talking to you.

664
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.800
Man. It's awesome to me.
I'm really glad that we accidentally got

665
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:35.639
you on the show. It's been
awesome. Yeah. Likewise, they say

666
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:45.559
you don't gotta go home, but
you can't stay. I don't want to

667
00:49:45.679 --> 00:50:15.880
be out step step chid, this
child, that child, everything come right

668
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:23.119
back, right back, joy for
me, joy staying right. You come

669
00:50:23.199 --> 00:51:37.800
in right away, still stick step, step, steps, shaking, knocking down dotssssstsssssssssss