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I like it this 20 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:15.280 chi They are the very best of the best. This is exactly what I 21 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:23.439 need. Yeah, it is a coffee taste book takedown, Lisa all right, 22 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:30.439 yarns. This is the everest of coffee excellence and there's only one way 23 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:37.639 to scale it together. Don't think you had a business, Well, you 24 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:45.520 better win this thing. There. I am all in believe. Here's something 25 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:49.400 don't make you all believe now brewing. And by the way, I'm not 26 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.879 Morgan Freeman. Hey, folks, welcome to a special episode of the Projection 27 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:58.680 Booth. I'm your host, Mike White, and this episode I am talking 28 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:02.319 with two of the stars of the new film Coffee Wars, which was written 29 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:07.960 by Randall Miller and co written by Miller and David Rawlins. I'm talking with 30 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.800 two of the stars of the film, Kate Nash and Tony Sebastian all about 31 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:15.800 their roles in the film. It is currently streaming and definitely something I would 32 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:21.879 recommend. Kind of a quirky, little indie comedy that needs a little bit 33 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.000 of love because it's got a lot to offer. Hope you enjoyed the interview. 34 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:29.759 Kate and Toby, thank you so much for joining me. I am 35 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.719 super excited to talk about Coffee Wars, but first I would love to know 36 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:37.039 can you tell me? I guess starting with you, Toby, can you 37 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.120 tell me a little bit more about your background and how you got into acting? 38 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:43.680 If memory serve, you come from a very talented family. I got 39 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:47.000 into acting. I wanted to get a drama school. I loved ds it 40 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:52.080 and plays as a kid. It's a teenager, and I started doing them 41 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.879 really at the same time as doing music. I didn't want to study music 42 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.159 very or music at a university as such, plans to go to dramas school, 43 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.319 and then I got on a music opportunity whilst I was at school, 44 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:09.319 and so I left schooling year early and I took that it was an obviously 45 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:13.479 I can really refuse. It was a major label deal that kind of turned 46 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.560 as a three or four years of recording between London Nashville. In LA, 47 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:21.560 I was really fortunate to have met a producer and writer who met him in 48 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.959 LA on a rising trip and he was from Nashville, so he invited me 49 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:28.680 to come over. The label at the time liked what we were doing, 50 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.279 and we were we just we kind of embarked on making a record. During 51 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.720 that two or three year period, I was really really desperate to get back 52 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:40.720 into acting some sort. I kind of missed the camaraderie and working with lots 53 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:44.959 of other people, like on a day's day basis. I loved collaborating with 54 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.959 the producer that I was working with, but I kind of wanted like more 55 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:53.120 collaboration as well outside of that in a different creative way. So I was 56 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:58.120 sending auditions out to agencies and to people not really hearing stuff for a while, 57 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.360 just because most people don't hear an thing. And then I was very 58 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:06.399 fortunate to meet my first E book acting agent was also head of music crossover 59 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:13.720 at an agency in LA and I then kind of she made it very clear 60 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.399 that she couldn't take me on because you can't just like skip a que and 61 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:20.759 just when you have works and done any training, and so I embarked and 62 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:25.399 kind of taking on these auditions that she'd send me very kindly, and then 63 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.680 when I added my first one, which was a twelve lines in a film, 64 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.959 that kind of sealed the working relationship, and then I was very much 65 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.959 back into that world, but now this time on a passion level and kind 66 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.560 of learning on the job. And then you come from a very musical background 67 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.839 as well. Yeah, kind of similar. Actually, Like I was doing 68 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:50.639 acting classes and then I found out about this school called the brit School, 69 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.879 and like my final year of GCSS and stuff, one of the girls in 70 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.600 the year above was going there and I heard about the school and I like 71 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:00.839 trapped her down and I was like, damn me this school because it's like 72 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.240 it was one of the only free I don't know now, but at the 73 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.360 time, it was the only free performing arts school in London, and I 74 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.160 just didn't really desperately wanted to go there. So I went to like an 75 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:16.360 open night with my parents, and I just really was attracted to the theater 76 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:21.519 department because I loved everything about students and what they were doing, and so 77 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:27.439 I applied for theater and I got in brit School and then after that, 78 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:31.199 I similarly wanted to go to drama school university didn't get into any of them. 79 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:38.720 And then I was working at Nando's and I fell down the stairs and 80 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:43.360 broke my foot, and I was just like laid up with this broken foot, 81 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.639 feeling sorry for myself because my friends were going off and doing exciting things 82 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.240 and I felt very left behind. And so I decided I was going to 83 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:55.000 book my first gig. I was going to write songs, record them, 84 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.360 make a my Space page, and then when my foot was healed, I 85 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.480 was going to like go live with my MySpace page and I was going to 86 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:05.199 book my first gig. And so it was this kind of incentive, I 87 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:10.120 think the broken foot that doing a gig with something I always really wanted to 88 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.959 do. But I was quite intimidated by it, and I was quite nervous 89 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.959 about it, but you know, I got to that point where being scared 90 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:20.560 was better than being incredibly bored, and so I just like took the plunge 91 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.879 and did it. And then I was just very lucky that I came up 92 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:29.519 at this time during my Space where we had so much freedom and kids in 93 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.839 London were really just deciding what was or kids all over I guess, not 94 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:36.439 just London, and it was everywhere. But we're sort of deciding what was 95 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.439 going to be popular in music. We had no playlisters, A and R 96 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:45.160 people in control of it, no algorithm, no gatekeeping. So I was 97 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:47.680 very lucky to kind of come up at that time and have success with my 98 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:53.439 first record. And then me and Toby actually share a manager. Margaret Polack 99 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:58.680 is our manager, and she's quite a magical person, and she was bonding 100 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:03.040 with her daughter. Her daughter was into my music, and she bought tickets 101 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.360 for her daughter to see my show. I was happening to be playing in 102 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.399 LA and she was like, great, I'm going to bond with my like, 103 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.720 you know, teenage daughter and sort of looked me up and read that 104 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:18.000 I was interested in acting, and so she came to my gig and then 105 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.120 she's very much about like synchronicity, and wept. She wanted to meet with 106 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.240 me and then asked if I wanted to, you know, start doing auditions, 107 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.160 and that was sort of in two thousand and I want to say eleven 108 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.080 or twelve, and yeah, And then I made a record in La and 109 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:35.120 which is where she was based, and I ended up like flying up there 110 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:39.440 a lot and then moving there for about nine years I lived in la and 111 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.480 so that's kind of how I got into acting. I think the first thing 112 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.120 I saw you and was Glow and you were just amazing in that. Well, 113 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.519 thank you so much. Yeah, Glow was It was a dream job. 114 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.200 It really was one of those jobs where like this is just so insanely. 115 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.120 I feel so lucky to be part of this with all these women and 116 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:01.159 wrestling and in the eighties, and like, we laughed so much together on 117 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.600 that job. So and you know, I feel very lucky to have worked 118 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.159 on Coffee Was Is Tobe, because it's an amazing thing to go to work 119 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:11.360 and laugh, you know what I mean, laugh every day, best best 120 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:16.039 And we just laughed very much. This guy makes me laugh so much. 121 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:20.480 He makes me laugh just thinking, don't look at me and laugh. You've 122 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.759 got funny bones. He's got funny bones. It's a funny guy. It's 123 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.120 a funny fucker that I can't help it. Oh JF. I'm not funny 124 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.039 at all, a lot of dad jokes. But that's kind of where I 125 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.919 finished from my comedy. Toby, how did the role for Coffee Wars coming 126 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.039 to you? So I worked for a Japassit directors. Sharon have feels I 127 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:46.320 have worked with you well beyond three four projects prior. I think it's three 128 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.080 projects prior to Coffee Wars and one in the sport role the first time. 129 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.679 The second one we're quite more actually working with how it hands on approach to 130 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.039 the audition process. So I was, I was. I was kind of 131 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:03.120 good friends with Sharon after those two or three projects. And she told me 132 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.480 that she had this comedy. I think i'd remembered it differently, the conversation 133 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.320 i'd have the on the phone. She was like, this is how I 134 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.399 remembered the conversation. And clearly she didn't say this, but she had said, 135 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:20.879 I've got this rom com and it's like it's a really sweet rom com. 136 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.240 It's kind of and she obviously wasn't like I've obviously remembered ro it's a 137 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:28.679 really sweet rom com, and I want you to for this like this kind 138 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:35.360 of like this kind of a sick guy and this she'd mentioned a wedding. 139 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.200 I got this completely wrong, but it's not the same movie. I made 140 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.159 it up. Obviously, it's my imagination. And then I got the role 141 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.960 to and and I was like, how do you do this? Like, 142 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:46.840 just how do you play this guy a normal? He's not normal at all? 143 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.080 And then actually before I knew I got the job, I went to 144 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.559 a comic con for Game Thrones and I was really really hoping that was going 145 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.480 to get this meekly copy wars and Kate knows as well as anyone, but 146 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.840 that healing of auditioning to something and well basically all the time when you liked 147 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:09.000 something and then you're like you dream about you dream about it, you almos 148 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.399 quished that you never actually did the audition, so that you could just live 149 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:16.039 in this world of dream daydream forever that you got the role. Anyways, 150 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.159 I kind of went to this comic con the Game of Tracks, and on 151 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.519 the way back I got a miss called from Randy and I've never been like 152 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.960 the amount of miss calls or a director, which forre like, especially if 153 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.039 I haven't got the movie, why would you want to talk to me? 154 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.080 And then like a day later I got given the role. And then the 155 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:39.080 character I thought he was just like a guy that kind of like plizzled a 156 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.120 little bit and you know, sprung back and forth in and out shot, 157 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:48.320 but he just got more ludicrous kind of mental really, he just brought into 158 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.240 life in such a like physical way. I think as well that you just 159 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.480 like it was like pushing. As soon as you started doing all this bad 160 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.600 stuff. Randy was like, right, great fun. I remember our first 161 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:05.080 day me too, Yeah, I really remember it and like sitting seches. 162 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:11.679 So we're going to have a face up yeah from day one. Yeah, 163 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.039 that rivalry is brilliant. So that's that's basically it. I really want that's 164 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.919 to play Nemesises again because it's really fun. I know, we have to 165 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:24.679 think of something. I've got sent the script and yeah, from casting it 166 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.039 sent through the script to my manager and I auditioned for it, and then 167 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:33.039 I've read it and I was like, really can see myself doing this, 168 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:35.600 which doesn't often happen, I think, And I was like, I think 169 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.159 I've really got a chance, because so many times I get an audition and 170 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.679 I'm like, oh, I'm not going to get this. I guess I'll 171 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.600 convince myself that I could. And then and then and I'm so resistant to 172 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.279 it because you just so feel like, oh I'm not going to get this, 173 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.120 like why bother? And then you have to convince yourself to be like, 174 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.679 Okay, there's a chance, you know, there's like a once in 175 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.159 and there's a one in a million or something chance I could get this, 176 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.879 So let me, let me work on it, and then let me convince 177 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:05.960 myself. And then by the time you do it, you're like, I 178 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.679 really want this, I really really want this. I really think I could 179 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.200 get it. Maybe this is meant to be. Maybe I really could be 180 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.480 you know, and then you obviously don't get it. But with this, 181 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.759 I read it and I thought, I really think I could get this. 182 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.360 So I was like, I really want to try, like because I feel 183 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.519 like this is me. It's really easy, Like I can read this so 184 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.200 easily, Like I feel like I could do this. I got confidence in 185 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:31.799 the audition for some rare reason. And so then I think my audition was 186 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.799 in person the first one, I think, because Randy's in LA and I 187 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.960 was in LA. So I went to Randy's house and did the audition in 188 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.759 person. Yeah, So I went to the director's house and did the audition 189 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.399 in person, and his dog was there, who's a little bit testy, 190 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:50.799 and his dog laughed at me, and I was like, yes, the 191 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.399 dog has proved to me like this is a good sign. And yeah, 192 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:58.639 it's always so nice when you actually get to do the audition in person with 193 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.200 someone attached to the film creatively, because there's just so much better chemistry and 194 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.600 like they like, you know what they actually want because they're there to tell 195 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.559 you, so they can kind of go, oh, yeah, do it 196 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.039 more like this, or try it like this, or how push that little 197 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:16.200 further and you like you know that you're actually within the right direction of what 198 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.039 the film is aiming for. So that's really nice. And then I think 199 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.639 I had a second audition and then I found out that I got the role, 200 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.759 like after the second one, after the callback, Yeah, which was 201 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:33.360 very exciting. Did you guys have to do any research for your roles? 202 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.919 Learn how to make coffee, learn more about environmentalism, how to day or 203 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.799 hair green, any of these things. We did get coffee lessons. We 204 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:45.720 got psalm in London. I think did you get the same from Lama Zuko? 205 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.159 I don't think I was invited? Okay, probably not, probably, 206 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:54.799 Sorry, So what trip we went to Lama Zuko and you got a coach? 207 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.120 Yeah, we went on a coach. It was actually every other cast 208 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.200 member was there. I as seemed you were in the back somewhere, but 209 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.240 maybe were was it packed lunch all inclusive kind of Really it was Marks and 210 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.559 Spencers vouchers and we got all free. We've got to pick exactly what we 211 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.639 wanted from one suspenses. So anywhere myself and the rest of the cast and 212 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.679 the entire crew went. Everyone went. Traveled to Italy. Yeah, we 213 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:24.000 got on first class flight to Italy and then stayed in a hotel. My 214 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.960 family went to the Vatican. Actually yeah, actually we went into I slept 215 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.919 in the Vatican. I was invited to slip in the Vatican. Yeah. 216 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.840 Anyway, so we went to Italy, went to the Vatican. The entire 217 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.960 cast and career, apart from Toby. We were given coffee like espresso lessons 218 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:45.679 and how to make coffee and how to kind of tamp and make an espresso 219 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:50.720 drink. And I was amazed because I didn't realize how much goes into the 220 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:56.679 recipe of an espresso, like the way the detail in it is essentially why 221 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.240 you go into a coffee shop and you're like, this is an amazing cup 222 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.840 of coffee and going to another one and you're like, yeah, that's okay. 223 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.320 And it's because like it's a real art and there's a real like like 224 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:08.519 recipe, and there's a knack to like making a great coffee. It's a 225 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.759 skill as it was educated. And then we did have which Toby did get 226 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:18.240 to experience. We had some of the Serbian ampions an't we ampiens like teaching 227 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.960 us on set, which is great. How was your artwork maybe? How 228 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:29.120 did that come out? Was it a screech out or it was an elephant's 229 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:36.000 cosk or a Western screech out? Toby, you mentioned the camaraderie that you 230 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.200 missed with acting, and it feels like a movie like this. You know, 231 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:42.120 Kid already mentioned the whole idea of laughing every single day on set. 232 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:47.279 I mean, how was that working with such an amazing group of people. 233 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:51.720 Well, it was a miserable experience. It's very tough working with Kate, 234 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.360 you know, trying to get a lam about other you know, just I'm 235 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.519 joking. It was amazing. It wasn't the best. It was. It 236 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:03.799 was very funny, and I think that I think when I was at school, 237 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.000 I really loved I loved it all that thing, but I loved comedy 238 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.400 the most just because it never really felt like it felt so detached and so 239 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:17.400 far away from reality, but zero boundaries and comedy, especially if you're given 240 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:22.359 kind of reigns by whoever is creatively in controlled to like run with things and 241 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.519 ad lib and improvise a bit. And that's exactly what this is. And 242 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:32.400 this is probably the first time I worked on the projects that was this stilly 243 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.599 and this money. So it was magic. I loved it. A look, 244 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.880 how much of the movie is is you guys versus how much was actually 245 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:44.200 on on the page when you started? I'd say like ninety percent of it. 246 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:45.799 Ninety five percent of it, right, Kate was on the page, 247 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.640 but they were depending on the character. There were people that Sally Phillips just 248 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:56.359 went off and just like Sally Phillips did, and it was genius because she 249 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.519 is a genius, you know. Yeah. Yeah, A lot of the 250 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.119 script is great, and it was very conversate, It was very natural. 251 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:06.640 Nothing ever felt there was a few things that we might be able to say, 252 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:08.279 oh, can we change this or what about this? What about this 253 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.160 way of doing it? Which I think we did have like flexibility, but 254 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:15.160 at the same time, like the script is already really good and just kind 255 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.200 of flowed felt really natural, didn't it. Yeah, it felt good, 256 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.480 but really good. Yeah, Sally Phillips is amazing. I loved her when 257 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.799 she was on The Past Master. Same thing with Hugh Dennis. Those guys 258 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.960 are great. I mean everyone is so good, Like it's such a good 259 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.960 cast, Like it's really it was lucky to get such great people in the 260 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:38.279 home in the movie. Everyone also had their own kind of hype of comedy 261 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:41.920 that they brought to it. You know, it's like no one did something 262 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.000 that someone else was doing. Everyone brought their own thing to it. So 263 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:51.640 they're like they're like levels of silliness. And within those levels silliness, you 264 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:57.359 had ry assume that sarcasm sap stick comedy. Some people would provide some physicality 265 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:02.359 that slap stick in the middle to have a dry response, so you'd have 266 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:06.119 like a mix of sarcasm and it's just like so funny. And you people 267 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:10.160 like Sarsha who like, even before she speaks, her eyes, the way 268 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.880 that she pulls like the faces just funny ad adorable at the same time, 269 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:17.440 and the same with a wine as well. Ad you start, oh Freddy, 270 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:21.599 Yeah, yeah, Freddy was brilliant pushing out his chest and yeah, 271 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:25.559 it's very funny dancing with his pecks. The great fair to do that, 272 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.880 wouldn't it? It would be great we should learn Do you think you have 273 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.200 to get a dancing school to learn it? You definitely have to train for 274 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:34.920 a couple of years together level of Peck. Din't think it's at the right 275 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.119 time for me to start now. I'm not sure if it's like you need 276 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.200 it, do you know what I mean, You've got other things to give, 277 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.400 other skill set. I think that ship sail, doesn't it? Kate 278 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.680 pecks where they are. I think the coffee helps. I think that brings 279 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:55.160 level of intensity at least thinking about these people are being highly caffeinated because you 280 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.240 are, Yeah, you're all up there at like nine ten eleven and just 281 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.559 like really ringing it every single scene that you're in. I think so too. 282 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.319 It's like this hyper reality where everything's really colorful and everything's really intense and 283 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.000 people are and the movie is like fast paced and snappy, and you're right 284 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:14.519 like when you watch it, I've you know, obviously watched it a few 285 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:17.000 times and I'm like, oh, yeah, it is this kind of long 286 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.480 set up before you're really in the story of like what's happening now, But 287 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:25.000 it all feels so like choppy and like fun and fast paced. I think 288 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.400 it really suits the world of like coffee. You know, did you have 289 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.880 any challenges working on this, because it feels like you just had a ball 290 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.799 working. It was hot, we were sweating a lot. That was the 291 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:38.599 only real thing because yeah, we had great crew and we had a lot 292 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:42.200 of laughs, but we were all just like that scene in the Underground, 293 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.759 like Coffee, very hard. Let Toby go insane, you know, the 294 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:53.240 Stott when he came out of that like so king screaming, like I got 295 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:57.759 a video of three people drying me with the head d dry between takes and 296 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:03.920 always didn't work really at all. It was like pointless. It's pointless. 297 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.559 It's so hot in there, and you have to have to send these fans 298 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.440 off before he starts shooting. You know, you'll be waiting for the cameras 299 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.799 to roll and like you know, obviously the lighting and everything, and also 300 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:17.279 it's intense. We're all jumping around that scene. You know, we're like 301 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:19.440 the music's playing and it picks up, but we're all like and everyone's like 302 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.599 chanting, but we look good in it. I was like worried that we 303 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:27.480 were going to look completely I think the heat sweat it out, all the 304 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:32.400 facial puff. But you know, like I think so like you know, 305 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.319 for examples, like you Jackman did like two days of like drinking no water 306 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:41.680 before somebody's shots in Lama's aparently to get like yeah, to get like really 307 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.400 gorned, to get really gone, to look like you hadn't eat because you 308 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:49.319 can. There's like obviously you drink water to get rid of water, but 309 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:53.759 then at being like the final you really really want to do it. I 310 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:57.519 think that's the thing that people do. Don't grab beyondest this is what I'm 311 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:02.359 saying now anyway and pretend that it's real. Yes, I check it, 312 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:04.480 and probably listen to me, and don't anyone ever do this. Okay, 313 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:08.759 I'm not drink water for two days. You do not drink water. But 314 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:14.000 anyway, I think that that's probably what happened with the amount of I mean, 315 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:15.440 I don't know how much you were sweating, but I was sweating a 316 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:19.720 lot. So you know, I guess if there's anything to learn from it, 317 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:25.960 turn your house into a sauna before shooting. I love the economic mammal 318 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.000 of this movie. This whole idea of all of the proceeds from the movie 319 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:33.559 going to environmental and animal welfare causes. You didn't get paid at after this, 320 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.880 correct, Yeah, you just donated your whole salary, right, No, 321 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:40.480 we did get paid, but any profits from the film are going towards 322 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.599 charity. And the umber of film is like very like an animal activists and 323 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:52.279 he's very passionate about animal rights and veganism is like his big sort of he 324 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.119 invests in all these different vegan outlets and wanted to reach people through comedy. 325 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.519 And I'm vegan as well, and I actually turned vegan because of a movie, 326 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.359 because of Upja. So I think that like movies can really have an 327 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.680 impact because I'm like an example of that, And so it's like a fun 328 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.359 way to like spread a good message and not I don't know, like there's 329 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:12.359 a lot going on in the world. So it's nice to be able to 330 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:17.200 laugh instead of being like, yeah, shouted that, and to make my 331 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:19.079 character sort of the butt of the joke a lot of the time and like 332 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.240 a bit of a mess, and like you're not exactly going she's doing the 333 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:26.880 right thing all the time, and you're like questioning some of her methods, 334 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.799 which I think is really good, but you still like her and you still 335 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.240 like want the Coffee Bit crew to like succeed. So it's a good way 336 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:37.640 to do it, I think. And it's making it very feel very human 337 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:42.480 and like like it's not about being perfect or so it doesn't take itself too 338 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:48.960 seriously, which is how really if you want to get like really important messages 339 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.559 or if we want to make positive change in all aspects of the world, 340 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:59.319 I think that doing it through comedy is a very smart way of doing it 341 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:03.400 so that some people who maybe might feel attacked if you did it another way, 342 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.640 don't feel like they're being patronized, and instead they could be taught and 343 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.640 you know, made up aware of stuff. And what's brilliant about it is 344 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.640 that, as you said, Kate, even as the movie, like as 345 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.680 the movie goes along, there are even moments where brilliant Ray Ray and Sammy 346 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:25.279 Philis like in here guns Joe Hounson with a watery nut juice, you know, 347 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:30.359 and also taking like it's going back and forth throughout the whole thing. 348 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.960 So there's a message throughout the whole thing, but it does take turns and 349 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:40.240 it feels like a very it's a very soft way of approaching these things and 350 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:44.640 very comical and happy. I know the movie is streaming now. Did it 351 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.480 have a theatrical run? No, it didn't have a theatrical run. I 352 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:51.039 think a lot of movies have done that sort of since the pandemic, you 353 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:55.440 know, like realizing your way to beat audiences. It's more like that more 354 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.640 people will see it, unless you're like, it's huge, huge, huge 355 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:03.200 franchise that has guaranteed bums on seats. If you're an entity and you get 356 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:06.039 to go straight into a streaming platform them, it's like the whole world is 357 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.200 really on there, a good chunk of it. Anyway, in terms of 358 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:11.480 that swere it would have been cool though it really, I know it would 359 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.359 have been cool. There is something magical about the cinema, but also people 360 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.759 like to consume to stream and so so what's the next up for you? 361 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.480 Guys? Kate, what are you working on now? Actually me and Toby 362 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.720 both are doing a show, but separately on different days at O'Meara in London. 363 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.759 Yes we are. Mine yours is soon, isn't it? When is 364 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:36.119 yours? Mine's on the twenty fifth of this month and mine is on the 365 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:40.160 first of June. I'm doing a Girl Talk anniversary show which is like my 366 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.519 third album, it's ten years since it came out, and then I'm going 367 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:47.079 to go into like a run of some festival dates this summer and I'm going 368 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.599 to release some new music soon. Yeah. So I'm just kind of working 369 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:55.519 on music at the moment, which is like nice. I have said show 370 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.599 at a Mirror on the twenty fifth of this month, but I also have 371 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:06.400 most first UK tour, doing small tour across the across England's week art the 372 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:11.079 nineteenth or April. The twenty second of April. The nineteenth is Bristol, 373 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:18.039 twenty second is Manchester, twenty is London Mirror and the twenty eight is Oxford 374 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.640 hometown gig. After then similar stuff to Kate. Really most likely a couple 375 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.119 of festivals. I'll have a single out the summer. In June, I'm 376 00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:32.599 doing a film in London, shooting in film in London that should be and 377 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:37.200 then I don't know, maybe getting ready to write some duo acting with Kate 378 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:47.319 Nemesiss. It's called nemesisis Nemesiss nesis Emesis Is. It's going to be a 379 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:55.000 massive franchise, Nemous Nemesis. Yeahsis, Well, I hope you have a 380 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:59.480 cooler summer in the UK than you've had in the past. When was it? 381 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.000 Date? Was it? Lost? Was last year? It was I 382 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.160 wasn't actually here for it, but it was. It was like off record 383 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:08.240 was an it was horrible apparently. Yeah, So I was here. I 384 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:15.880 basically went on holiday once or twice between like June and July and August. 385 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:21.359 I was in London in most of a month with my girlfriend. We kind 386 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.559 of only moved to London September twenty twenty one, so we've only been here 387 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:27.480 but less than a year. And we're like, we're gonna have our burst 388 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.839 summer, like in London London summer, Like that's what everyone's talking about. 389 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:37.000 It's gonna be amazing. There's gonna be friends everywhere, barbecues, dancing, 390 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.319 having drinks. It's gonna be so happy. So they're like fifth of August 391 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.079 of something like a fasturday. I was like, so, where's all our 392 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.279 friends at? And they all decided to go on holiday in August. So 393 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:53.599 it was like so hot. It was absolutely boiling. I feel like it 394 00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:59.720 was just bad luck on our part, but I think that the heat last 395 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.880 August it was pretty insane because it's like no relief. You know, I'm 396 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.839 going to seaside and got a beach. There's your relief, you know, 397 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.160 kind of like just sitting in the middle of the fifties leg. Well, 398 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.599 hopefully this year goes better. But thank you both so much for your time. 399 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.119 I really appreciate this. Thank you so much for having us to a 400 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:36.359 really nice chatting. We've got am My Brezian coffee and beas gonna find the 401 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:41.200 video, find those extra cops to film. They've got an album, but 402 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:48.559 I'm coffee. You did a girl and find a later. She'sst like a 403 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:53.200 bug. Lad Perfume was made right on the ground. They've got an album, 404 00:28:53.359 --> 00:29:06.279 but I'm coffee juice. See don't but tell the juice. All the 405 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:12.359 fathers ain't a finger, saying a body titians dollar wise accused of drinking water 406 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:25.119 and was finding gaping fifty dollar bill. They've got a coffey in myself a 407 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:56.039 whole lot of coffee it They've got an awful of coffee. Want to manager 408 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:07.920 se all the father said, I think I say when they haven't ex me 409 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:14.279 saying a copy. Catchis the play bacles where I sat up there. They've 410 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:55.440 got an awful lot of a lot of it. They've got an awful lot 411 00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:11.160 of comment. You got an awple lot of comment. You got a owle 412 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:27.000 lotar comment, right, you got a ole dollar tom, I got a collar comment