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Now. I know what your reporting. I got a strain of going

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on here. Something just killing my
dog. Something killed your dog, my

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dog. We're flying to or over
the trade. I don't know how it

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did it? Okay, dam and
I'm really confused. Also, I thought

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my dog coming over the fence,
and they would have did when you hit

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the growler. I entertaining cards and
although I saw it was my dog coming

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over the fen what are you reporting? We gotta some one or something crawling

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around out here. You see what
it was. I'm out here looking up

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near the window now and I don't
need anything. I don't want to go

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outside. Heat anybody here, Hello, get somebody out here. What's goin

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on out there? I thought I'm
a bit about second four nine. I

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don't know he's he out there?
Yeah, I'm brooking right, Hey everyone,

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it's Brian. No you didn't click
the wrong podcast. This is the

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Sasquatch Odyssey, but I'm not here
this week. I just dropped in to

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tell you guys that I am actually
on vacation and Wayne is going to be

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taking care of you over the next
few episodes. Have no fear. He's

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put together some amazing guests and some
amazing encounter stories. I know you guys

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are going to enjoy them just as
much as I have. I will be

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back with a brand new episode for
you guys on Wednesday, May seventeen,

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But until then, as always,
sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

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All Right, how are you doing
buddy? Hey? Wayne, how

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are you doing well? Tell us
a little bit about that intro. That's

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my crazy partner, Brian Bowden.
He's my tech guru. When we saw

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I started the team, I picked
Brian as as my tech guy because he's

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just phenomenal with technology and I can't
even turn a computer on, but he

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put that together. We used to
do a monthly show would be like the

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Bronxhill, Power and Rubble Society Evidence
Review, and then we every now and

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then we do like a once a
month kind of show. We jump on

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and we just you know, do
a live show like you and just either

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have friends come in because we've got
so many friends that are in the power

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and rubble and every aspect of it. We'd have them I'm in son,

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or we just take questions. We'd
open up the phone lines and have people

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call and just interact with the audience. And we had a lot of fun

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doing it. Only problem is between
Brian and myself, we're always in Facebook

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jail, so you know, we
can't we can't stay out of jail for

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some reason. But imagine that.
Imagine I have a hard time believing that

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they but it is what it is. But we were talking today and we're

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gonna get back into swinging thing again, so you know, I look forward

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to getting back into the swing of
things. We used to do two monthly

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meetings, one down in Westchester,
South you know, New York, closer

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to New York City, and one
up here by me and COVID knocked all

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of that out of the box and
we never we never got back around to

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doing doing the live meetings. So
we just decided to start doing you know,

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like a monthly show or maybe every
bi weekly whatever whatever it turned out.

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Today. Uh, yeah, you've
introduced me to Brian, talk to

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him a little bit through messenger and
gotta We talked about getting him on the

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show. Gotta gotta get that set
up. Now. You gotta love Brian.

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Curiota love Brian. If you want
to talk about dieries and co genture

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and speculation, Brian's and Brian's got
it all figured out. You gotta love

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me. Well, I'm glad somebody
does because I certainly don't. I know

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he's I love him like a brother. So what he had, We have

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so much fun together, and uh
I missed him. He moved down to

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Florida on me and uh so uh
that you know he is. He'll be

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back up in the summer. And
he came up in August for my birthday,

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drove all the way up by himself, just for my birthday. And

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I told him he was absolutely nuts. Yeah, yeah, man, right

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there, That's all I wouldn't do
for him. But now he came up

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and uh he spotted his family,
you know what I mean? And so

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it is what it is. Yeah, yeah, you gotta love Brian.

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As a matter of fact, there's
a dorm an encounter tonight that I was

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going to mention it but I'm not
going to mention it. I'm gonna leave

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it for Brian to talk about.
Okay, okay, Yeah. Like I

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was saying before, this is your
third time on the show. First time

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you came on and just kind of
introduced yourself, ended up telling one of

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the best big foot encounters I've ever
listened to the firsthand that experienced it,

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it was great. Ended up being
in my intro. Yeah I think I

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heard that. Yeah, yeah,
great, great encounter. Then the second

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time you came you talked about a
crazy knot that you and Brian and one

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other person that experienced ye doing a
paranormal investigation. And tonight, you know,

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here to round it out with some
dog Man stuff. I can't wait

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to get into it now. People
that that have watched the show and followed

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me know how I feel about dog
Man. I don't know what to make

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of dog Man. When I first
got into the subject, I thought it

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was silly. I thought we have
enough cryptis out there. What is this

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giant dog walking on two legs eating
people? You know, it just seemed

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far fetched. And then the more
you listen, the more I started to

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think, this sounds kind of like
a it could be a bigfoot. I

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misidentified big foot. But the people
you talk to that have that have encountered

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these things swear, no, that's
not the case. This looks like a

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dog. This is some kind of
dog. Where are you on all of

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that? How did you first hear
about the dog Man and what were your

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original thoughts? I first heard about
the dog Man on that kind of show,

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dog Man Encounters, and I would
listen in to that, and I

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was telling Brian about it, and
you know, I have my family goes

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back to Italy. You know,
we're like our families wanted our original families

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of Roman every day. And I
was talking to an aunt of mine who

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grew up over there, and she
was telling me, sir out it real

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quick about her family. We had
family in Italy. They were up in

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the alpines, they called him.
They're like, they're like the Castle Mountain

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here compared to the Rocky mountains,
okay, And this family was up there.

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They were sheep herders. They had
sheep, you know, and so

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long. So one night it was
the youngest son's chant turned to watch the

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sheep, you know. So his
brother gave him a stick with a rock

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tied to it and he said that
anything comes around, just beat it with

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the rock. And family went to
go sleep in the house, and so

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the kids will underneath this giant boulder, sitting there, and he sees a

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shadow of a wolf from the moonlight, and he sees the sheep getting nervous

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and stuff, you know. So
he's waiting for his wolf to come down.

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And the wolf was creeping down around
this big rock and creep up on

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the sheep. And as the wolf
comes around the corner, he starts speaking

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the hell out of it with the
rock, and he beats it and he

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beats it and he beats it and
he's screaming and yelling and making all kinds

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of noise, and a wolf runs
off into the woods, and his parents

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and his brother come out and they
say, what's you know what happened?

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He said, oh, the wolf
game. I had to beat him up

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with stick. Now. A woman
who told me the story is my ninety

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five year old aunt, and I
she when she told me the story,

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I almost fell off my chair.
And so anyway, the next day the

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father goes into town and tells the
constable that there's wolves out there, you

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know. So they put up like
a little posse. They go into the

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woods looking for those wolves as they
want to kill them, and they're following

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a blood trail, and they're following
a blood trail, and they get to

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a cottage in the middle of the
woods that nobody knew was there, and

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the constable says, well, let
me go knock on the door because i'm

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you know, the law, and
maybe this person lives at his house as

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a wolf as a pet, you
know, and he was when we're gonna

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have to put this wolf down,
you know, he knocks down the door

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in hand to God, I swear
to God this is a true story.

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I validated it with my brother and
my sister who were in the house when

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my aunt from Italy told my ninety
five year old aunt, now, when

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they opened the door, a gentleman
opened the door and he had bandages on

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his head, and they asked him
if he had a wolf, and he

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said no, and it's gonna cop
told them, well, we followed a

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blood trail from their property to your
front door, so you know, but

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he beat a wolf last night.
And the guy said, well, I

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don't know. I don't own a
wolf, and he closed the door.

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And my relatives were so freaked out, and that day went back to the

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house and they stole the farm and
moved to the United States because they thought

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that that guy was a werewolf and
werewolfs a little different than man. I

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know, but I don't believe.
I never, in my lawless imaginators ever

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believed in werewolves, you know what
I mean. A person turning into a

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wolf is a little bit much for
me. But my aunt told me this

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story, and it just freaked me
out, just freaking I couldn't believe that

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these people sold their farm to get
out of it because they thought the mountain

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was cursed. So anyway, I'm
listening to I'm listening to the condifferent dogmatic

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counters, and I gotta be a
little fire pick in my backyard and I

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just sit out there at night and
I listened to podcasts and I have a

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couple of cold beers around the fire. And the more I'm hearing about these

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dog man, the more he's freaking
me out. So I'm like, one

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minute, I have no problem sitting
in my backyard. The next minute I'm

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sitting there with my sword off,
show my crystal girth shotgun, you know

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what I mean. Because I'm hearings. I was walking through the and it's

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freaking me out. So I'm calling
my partner Brian. I said, what

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do you think about this? And
Brian's like, oh, come on,

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you know it's you know, it's
big and bad enough, you know,

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dealing with the bigfoot stuff. You're
not really going to go down this road.

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And I go, I don't know
what to tell you. Man.

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You know, my aunt's telling me
about were wolves and it sat the other

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things is freaking me out. So
one morning, I'm on my way to

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work for thirty in the morning.
I'm the only guy in the parkway.

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It's Monday morning, bright and early, and there's a meadow off the parkway

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where the deer go to Grange in
the morning. Okay, And as I'm

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coming down the parkway in my jeeks, I see two sets of yellow eyes

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walking out from the woodline. These
eyes are like seven too tall, Okay,

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there are about seven feet so I'm
looking at it now. I stopped

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the jeep in the middle of the
parkway and I put the window down because

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I got tinted window, and I'm
looking at these eyes and I'm like,

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wow, it must be bigfoot,
you know what. I mean, these

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must be some big foots coming out
of the woods. And then I'm thinking,

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you know, never seeing a big
foot with yellow eyes, only seeing

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them with red eyes, you know, and said away, I'm looking at

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these things, and I'm looking at
these and they were walking like you know

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by Peter Lee, and they stopped
and they noticed me looking at them,

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and they're looking at me, and
I'm looking at them, and it's like

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I got sucked into a trance.
They dropped down the whole fours and they

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start running towards me. Now is
there running towards me? I see a

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neck bobbing up and down, like
a dog's neck when the dog runs.

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Right, I got a Jeremy Shepherd. I know what the dog, My

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dog looks like when he's running our
He's tracking something on the ground, you

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know. And I'm looking at these
things and they're getting closer, and I

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see his head uplet and then I'm
talking to myself in my head. I'm

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saying, these are not these are
not big foot's. Big Foots don't run

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leg this. Big Foots have no
neck, you know. There's got to

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be something else. And then a
little voice in the back of my head

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says maybe you should get going,
you know, because these things are getting

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close. So I just roll up
the window and I punched the jeep out,

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and as I pulled away, I
hit my brakes and just tap the

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brakes so the brake lights would go
on. It's just to see if they

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were running after me down the parkway, you know. And when I did

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that, I could see them both
stopped dead on a dime, and their

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heads went like this, like they
caught scent or something, and they took

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off running north up the parkway.
Now we're there on two legs, or

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they went from two legs when they
came out in the woodline and they dropped

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down to all four okay. And
then when they caught the scent of something

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I guess the deer or whatever they
caut the scent of, they ran off

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on all four. Good dog Okay. So the whole way I'm driving to

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work, I'm debating what I've seen. I was like, they must I'm

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thinking these were definitely not big foots. These must have been dog man.

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I mean, I've heard enough experiences
now on a Vic's show about the yellow

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eyes and the way the net moves
up and down when they run winner on

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all four and all of this stuff. And so I'm debate and don't even

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telling Brian. So anybody called Brian, and I say during the day,

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I call him and I say,
dude, you're not gonna believe what I

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say. I think I've seen today, you know. So I explained to

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him what I've seen, and he
says, you gotta go back. He

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goes, you gotta go back,
and you gonta research all of that stuff

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there. And I'm like, Bran, there's a city hall right there,

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and it's junior high school right there. And I know this area like the

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back of my hand because my son
went to those my kids went to those

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schools. And and I go,
there's not a lot of woods over There's

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just a small patch of woods.
And he's like, you have to go

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back. You have to go back. Okay. So said, okay,

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when I get off, I get
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And that was on the Mondy Tuesday
morning. When I drove by the same

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spot, there was a state truck
there, like the New York State Environmental

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Protection Agency truck parked in the meadow, and I'm looking at the truck.

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I was like, okay, well, I don't know what's going on,

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but I see this truck there and
I go. I go to work,

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it's there. I come home,
it's there. And three days later the

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truck is still there. I don't
see anybody ever by the truck. Then

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like the fourth day, it changed
from a New York State Environmental Protection Agency

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to New York State Conservation Agency.
Different. So the first one was like

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a little green pick up, the
second one was like a little green bronco.

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Okay again, sitting in the middle
of the meadow. Never seen anybody

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there, and no matter when to
go buy, it's never anybody at this

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truck. So I'm telling Brian about
something, dude, something that's going on,

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because you know, there's always a
I've been driving up and down the

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Sparker for thirty years. I've never
seen a conservation truck or anything in the

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middle of the meadow. So Brian's
hasn't got to go back. So I

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go back that Sunday and I go
right over to where I see the creatures

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come out from the tree line,
and I measure from the tree the base

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of the tree up to the top
of the tree. And the state had

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cut the trees at the eight foot
level the branches so they can get underneath

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them. What the tractors when they
cut the meadow, okay, And I

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just figured these things are about seven
feet tall, So I said, okay,

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let me go down. There's a
little creek on the other side of

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this fence. I go down to
the creek and there's some people in there

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on their fishing, and I'm asking
them what's going on, and they say,

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oh, yeah, you know the
state of much mcquilla. They filled

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the print trout. They filled the
creek up with out this time of the

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year, you know what I mean. We're down are fishing for trout and

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YadA, YadA, yeada. So
I'm like, all right, there's there's

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a precre fresh water, there's fish. So I follow the creek. I

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go underneath the roadway which are like
condominiums on the other side of the road,

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and opens up to a giant lake. I'm looking at this lake and

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I'm saying, okay, um,
duck, geese, frogs, turtles,

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more fish, plenty of food here
for a predator, you know. And

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I'm thinking, there's nothing there but
town hall. So I keep gumbling.

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I'm walking the further. I'm walking
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I go another quarter of a mile
and it opens up to a giant

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cornfield, and I say, okay, we got corn. Corn equals deer.

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Deer equals predators. And I'm thinking, man, I thought I knew

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this place like the back of my
hand. I had no idea there was

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this much food here for a predator, you know. Stay tuned for more

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Sasquatch out to sea Wolf right back
after these messages, and Brian's like,

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I told you you had to go
back. I told you, And I

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was like, man, I'm glad
you forced me to go back, because

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you know, I thought I knew
it all, but I didn't know anything,

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you know, to be honest with
you, you know, Yeah,

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we've actually got a couple of questions
if you want to those, Yeah,

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quick, we'll get him in order. First one, and miss Tiffany,

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as I've heard a lot of people
say that dog Man is actually a dire

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wolf. Do you think that's a
possibility now, Because I never heard a

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dire wolf walk on my pa Lee. That would be my argument too.

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Yeah, I've heard that, Tiffany. I've heard that too. Dire Wolf's

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supposed to be very very large.
Yeah, And I looked into that,

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Miss Tiffany, after I had my
first encounter with all kinds of wolves,

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and I was wondering if a Darwood
could be a dire population still existing.

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But they they're just not by peetle, you know. Yeah. I got

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one more from Carson, and this
is one that I struggle with, the

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Gugway big foot. It's a dog
man head or dog man with big foot

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body thoughts. Yeah, you know
what I know that I don't. I

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don't really necessarily think the Gugway has
a dog man head. Um. I

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don't really consider it a dog anyway
who has a more of a wolf like

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head or a hyena head. But
the Gugway. Um. When I was

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researching Gugways, a lot of the
people that I spoke to that were from

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down South called them bear squatches because
they had a bears now. They looked

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like they had a bears now,
but they had um big big foot legs.

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They didn't had they didn't have the
K nine legs. Okay, Okay,

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Yeah. I had Miss Naiom a
fan on last week and the topic

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of dog man came up and something, you know, I thought of something

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out of the blue. Originally I
thought that the dog man could be a

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misidentified Bigfoot. What if the dog
man is a misidentified guguoy is. They

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talk about how aggressive gug boys are. Dog men are supposed to be very

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aggressive as well, and everything I've
heard, the gug boy has like a

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baboon snout, whereas most bigfoot don't
battle parish, Yeah, something like that.

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Could there be a connection there,
just general opinion. So I don't

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think so. And the other reason
why I'm gonna I'm gonna say no is

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because again it comes back to those
K nine legs. You know. Um,

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every Gugway that I've ever researched,
or anybody I've ever interviewed regarding it

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always said it had the big foot
bigfoot kind of legs, like human humanoid

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legs. No one ever said it
looked like K nine kind of with haunches.

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Okay, yeah, just one man's
opinion. Yeah all right, So

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yeah, you can you keep going
with your if you're a canter there,

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if you got another one you want
to start, yeah, sure, sure.

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So So that was the very first
that was my introduction to what I

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believed I've seen that night, that
that morning was where dog man and I

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believe there were two of them,
and I think they were there on that

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meadow because, like I said,
they're always deer there early in the morning

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praising, and I think they were
just happened to be hunting, you know.

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Um. Then we went to we
went they talked about that investigation where

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we did on Halloween where we got
bluff charged by a dog man, not

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not knowing it was a dog man, thinking it was a sas watch that

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was bluff charging us. But I
did got a picture of what I've seen

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what was behind the wall. I
did send it to Wayne. He's got

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that photograph. I don't know if
he's gonna put it up or not.

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But you can definitely see a snout
on the other side of the wall.

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It was squared off like a pit
bowl kind of snout with point of years

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like they were propped. And I
shine too, and the snow sniffing us

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over the wall. So that was
our second and that was my second and

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running with a dog man, and
I'd be really honest with thank god we

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didn't see what was on the other
that side of that wall, because we

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probably all would have died of heart
attacks. But later on um months later,

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six months later, I know I
discussed this the last time I was

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on two. I was being drawn
back to the swamp at where we found

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the den. And we've seen I
don't know if they sent you of that

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photograph. I think I did.
Um there, we've seen that the dog

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man that had the wolf like had
the big cane nine, and I mean

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it was just absolutely among us.
And next to that one was the one

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that I believe buff charged us,
that had hyenas now that was snarling at

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us. And then you know that
that night came and went months later,

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a couple of months later, Yeah, I want to say it was early

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October. I was we were sleeping
in our room, and you know,

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a guy like me who grew up
in the city and I lived on the

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first floor. When I lived in
the city, we didn't open our windows

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that night. We didn't not,
you know, because you open the window

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nights, someone's going to come in, you know. So I never opened

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my windows at night. When we
moved down stays, we were upstill and

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the second floor. The kids got
older, we could separate bedrooms. We

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moved downstairs and one night it was
a warm, full night again of us

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have been around October, early October, early November baby, and we had

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the window open, which is something
I never do. And but that night

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I left the window open and we're
laying in bed sleeping like this little cat

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will slipping between me and my wife, I don't know. Two thirty three

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o'clock in the morning, I waged
up both I pop up out of bed

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and I feel like there's something on
the other side of the wall and on

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the wall that I sleep up against
faces the backyard, okay, and I

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feel like there's something there. I
mean, the cat jumps up, she

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does straight at it. She jumps
straight up, and she runs upstairs,

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this underneath the kid's bed, and
she sounds like a herd of elephant's going

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up the steps. And she weighed
like nine pounds. So I'm looking at

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the I'm looking at the wall,
and I do this so all the time,

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I feel felt the wall like I
feel like there's something there. So

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I lean over and I'm looking out
the bedroom window into the backyard, which

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is pitch black. Can't can't see
anything out of the screen. I got

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goosebumps from my head, my head
to my tails. I get goosebumps and

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I get the feeling there's something out
there. I say okay, And I

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could have want to hurt something,
sniff like get like to get my scent,

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and at that planet said okay,
let me shut the window. Shut.

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The window locked up. I always
kept the pistol grip shotgun by the

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side of the bed. I grabbed
my shotgun towards the back I'm walking through

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the living room to get to the
kitchen, to go to the sliding list

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or put the floodlights on in the
backyard to see what's out there, because

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that's the kind of guy I am. I think somebody's on my property or

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something doesn't feel right, I'm gonna
go out and see what's not right.

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I don't want to be surprised when
I'm as sleep, you know. So

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as I'm walking out of the bedroom
with the flow grip shotgun, I hear

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a little voice in my head saying, don't go don't do this, don't

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go out there, don't put those
lights on, because you're not gonna like

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what you say. So I do
something which is totally out of a norm

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from me. I turn around,
I go back to bed, I put

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the gun back, and I go
to sleep. This is not me by

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any stretch of my imagination. I
don't know why I do this, but

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I do it. And the next
morning I got up, I go to

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work, I come home. Now
we had just laid new line down,

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well lined well lines to the house, you know, from the from the

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well, so that the lawn was
ripped up. There was a lot of

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just todd dirt, you know.
So I don't know if I sent you

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the photograph of the picture of the
bedroom window with the claw marks. I

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walked over in the back and I
said, you know what, let me

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see if I couldn't see if there
are any tracks on that dirt. You

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know, it's fresh dirt. And
when I went into the backyard, there

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in the dirt underneath the window because
the line run basically right underneath my bedroom

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window, right to the pump because
our water pump is in the basement,

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and right underneath the bedroom went there
three claw marks underneath the bedroom window.

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Like yeah, I was here,
you know, And I was like,

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oh wow, this is crazy,
you know what I mean. And I'm

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thinking, what's going on? Why
is this thing coming to me? Because

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you know, every fiber of my
being told me what was out there I

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knew when I touched that wall was
out there. It wasn't a squatch,

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you know, and I don't know, it was just I was like,

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well, and so then I'm talking
to Brian and Brian's like, you know

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what's going on here? Right?
And I'm like I think so? And

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he goes, what do you think's
going on? Now? I go,

407
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:44.880
I think because I was drawn back
to It's Den, something pulled me back

408
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:52.000
to It's Den that it followed me
home. It's like, okay, you

409
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.359
know where I live now, I
know where you live. Now. This

410
00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:02.480
Creature's Den is not that far from
my house and you could probably get there

411
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:08.119
through the woods about ever crossing any
main roads, you know. So again

412
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.079
called Brian. I tell Brian what's
going on. Brian says, that's crazy,

413
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.640
you know, why don't you go
into the backyard, and said,

414
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.920
I don't know, you know,
it was like everything you know, I'm

415
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:23.160
that, I'm that guy I walked
towards danger, you know what I mean.

416
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.559
I got to make sure that if
something's gonna get in, it's got

417
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.799
to get through me. I'm not
going to leave my family home, you

418
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.079
know, sitting ducks, you know. And that's just when my father brought

419
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:37.880
me up. You know, you
got to protect your family, do it.

420
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.960
If you got to die for your
family, you got to die for

421
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.720
your family. But you protect your
family. So, you know, I

422
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.960
tell Brian, and Brian's like freaking
out. I'm showing them that's the claw

423
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.160
marks underneath the picture of the window, the bedroom wind and all this stuff,

424
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.920
and he's freaking out. So then
a couple of weeks go by and

425
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:02.640
it's getting colder, and I'm going
out in the mornings to start the car

426
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.000
again. As I get up for
thirty in the morning, I want to

427
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:08.200
get the car warmed up before you
get in it. And we were having

428
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:14.039
issues with wild packs of dogs through
the neighborhood, tearing up the garbages and

429
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.359
stuff. Okay, So I started
going out with a little pocket knife,

430
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.880
like a four inch six inch pocket
knife and a can of pepper spray because

431
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.480
I figured, if the dogs come
come after me, I'm taking one of

432
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.640
them with me. I'm not going
to be a you know, a statistic

433
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.799
on a government chart, you know
what I mean. I'm not going out

434
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.039
there at four o'clock in the morning
and get molled by pack of wild dogs.

435
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.519
So I go out to start the
car, and that particular day,

436
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.200
all the cars were in the driveway
and it was like my daughter's car,

437
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:49.200
and my wife's car, my son's
car, and then my car. So

438
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:53.119
my car was the furthest away from
the garage, furthest away from the deck.

439
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.920
And as I came down the front
steps, the central lights went on

440
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:04.119
and then again an and I just
had a feeling that there was something behind

441
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.359
me, but I didn't know what
it was. So I stopped the car

442
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:13.319
up and I let the car run, and car's running, and as I

443
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:17.960
started to walk back towards the house
to go back inside to get my coffee

444
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:23.519
and everything ready to go to work, I see I go like this underneath

445
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.000
the sensualize, you know, I'm
blocking my eyes. I see like a

446
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.160
shadow underneath the deck, and I'm
like, what's under my deck? And

447
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.759
I was like, oh no,
this is this is no good, you

448
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.799
know what I mean to be.
I don't know, maybe some homeless guy

449
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:42.519
stumbled in and sleeping underneath my deck. And I got my wife's car here

450
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.640
and my daughter's car, So flip
open the knife, take out the pepper

451
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:52.039
spray, and I start walking towards
this shadow under my deck. I passed

452
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.759
my son's car, pass my wife's
car, and I'm just at the front

453
00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.400
of my daughter's cars on a car
link away from the deck. And again

454
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:07.319
the little voice in my head says, you should stop right there. It's

455
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.519
not safe for you to go any
further. And I'm like, and again

456
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.519
I stopped. Again. This is
totally out of the ordinary for me.

457
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:22.200
So I turned around and I go
inside. Oh no, Early, I'm

458
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:27.039
sorry. Earlier that morning, when
I got up, I opened up the

459
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.759
sliding List store. We had an
outside cat called Cali. Again, this

460
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.359
cat is seven pounds sucking went.
I opened up the sliding List store four

461
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.440
o'clock in the morning for thirty and
I feed Cali. That's what we do

462
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.039
every morning, close the door up, blocking down my eight sliding lift store

463
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.480
acausse I'm from. The city has
three different lines on it, right,

464
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:46.640
you know, because when we moved
up here to the country, there's no

465
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.759
street lights, there's no nothing,
there's no sidewalks. It's dark, you

466
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.519
know. And so we were used
to at my wife and I, so

467
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.759
I opened up the sliding glist or
I feed Cali as I'm walking towards to

468
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.440
the shadow on the day, Callie
is coming around the front to do her

469
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.519
business and my wife's garden because we've
got all this nice fresh mulch there,

470
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.960
you know. And as she turns
the corner, she sees something under the

471
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.159
deck and she does like a Halloween
cat. She jumped straight up in the

472
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.400
air and she runs off into the
woods as fast as she can. And

473
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.159
I sort of gotten for like a
seven pound cat. It sounds like a

474
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.199
bulldozer going through the woods. She
couldn't get away fast uff. And that

475
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:35.239
stopped me in my trassic wall.
What the hell just happened? You know?

476
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.920
Like what it cheesy? Because I
can't see it. I just set

477
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:45.679
a shadow. So as I'm getting
closer, I'm seeing I'm seeing the largest

478
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.920
K nine head you've ever seen.
It was not it was not a dog,

479
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.679
it was anything. It was wolf
like. It was huge. It

480
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:01.000
looked like the one in the den, a really big cane on it.

481
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:07.599
And as I got closer, I
started to notice that it had a main

482
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:13.000
over its shoulders and down its chest. And I'm looking at this thing and

483
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.400
I'm getting close. I'm getting pretty
close to it now. Now I'm like

484
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.599
at the just passing the front door
and my daughter's car, and she had

485
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.960
a four door car. But I
mean, I'm still getting pretty good.

486
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.159
And I'm looking at the see and
I'm looking at it. And then I

487
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.719
said, okay, you know what, I have stopped right here, and

488
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:36.800
I start to back out slowly.
I back out slowly and I can walk

489
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.159
into the house and I locked the
door behind me. And now I'm thinking,

490
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.039
what am I doing here? Am
I getting a gun? Am I

491
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.360
going back outside? Am I going
to a war with this thing? She'd

492
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.199
wake up my son and my son
in law. And this way we could

493
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.239
go out there with three, you
know, three three high powered rifles.

494
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.559
And I said, but I've heard
enough stories I'm vic sherll that if you

495
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.880
go to work with these things,
it doesn't and the wealth for are you?

496
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:06.079
And I'm debating with myself what am
I doing? And I say,

497
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.320
you know what, I'm not going
to go to warm with this thing.

498
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:14.079
I'm gonna just leave it alone.
But on the way out the front door,

499
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:19.599
I grandma tactical flesh light and I
hit underneath the deck to see what

500
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.519
was under there. Now there's nothing
under the deck. I go under the

501
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:30.960
deck and this thing had pissed all
over my retaining wall and into my driveway

502
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:38.079
into the water. The water drain
into driveway and it stinks like pneumonia,

503
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:44.360
and it's oily and it's slick,
and it's just I'm like, what the

504
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:49.079
hell. I was pissed because I
just had this brand new rotating wall put

505
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.639
up and this thing pissed all over
my wall, you know. And I

506
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.880
know this is a sign of territory, you know. He's telling me this

507
00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.519
is it's territory. And I'm like, now, I don't think so.

508
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.519
And I get in the car.
I said, you know what, my

509
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.239
son and Laisia, my son is
here. Everybody knows what the guns are,

510
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.920
everybody knows what ammunition is. Something
goes down. They got the women

511
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.119
covered. I get in the car
and I drive to work. I call

512
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.400
Brian, tell them what happened.
And Brian's freaking out and he's like,

513
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:22.320
dude, you gotta be kidding me. Camp to your house. I'm like,

514
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.639
dude, I'm telling you. This
thing was underneath my front deck.

515
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.360
It had the biggest head you ever
seen. Now. I didn't see any

516
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.360
eyeshine, I didn't see any teeth, I didn't see any hands. But

517
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:43.159
what I've seen was a huge thing
like bent over. But I was,

518
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:49.519
but you can see the main So
I get to work. I work an

519
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.679
hour away from home, an hour
and change away from I get to work,

520
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.639
I get there early. I like
to get there early to unwind for

521
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.760
the ride, have a cup of
coffee, read the paper, chill out.

522
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:04.280
I get to work. My wife
closed me up, hysterical. But

523
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.719
what's going on? She's like,
I was. Then to kitchen, went

524
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:09.960
my son, my son Nick,
she was the kitchen went Nick. And

525
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.039
I went to open the flying glass
door to feed Callie. And I was

526
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:19.719
like, when you feeding CALLI again
for a federat for thirty, you know.

527
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.000
And but that's why my wife says, she's a feeder, right,

528
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:30.239
So so she goes. But the
whole door fell out of the frame.

529
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.480
If my son wasn't there to catch
it, it would have crushed my wife.

530
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.760
So I think, okay, just
close the door, lock it back

531
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:43.360
up. I'm off tomorrow. I'll
take the whole thing out of the wall

532
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:49.400
and i'll reset it, you know. So I'm thinking when I was in

533
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.960
the front of the house looking at
the yurine on the wall, it went

534
00:38:53.119 --> 00:39:00.719
around the back and tried to pop
the flying glass door of the off the

535
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:07.519
track, but it couldn't because of
what locks I got on the door,

536
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.199
you know. And he once they
unlocked the door to door fall out of

537
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:14.079
the track. But so I had
to reset everything. And I was like,

538
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.360
you know, I couldn't believe that
happened. I was like, man,

539
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:21.280
I said, I said, I
just like said I thought. I

540
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.840
went back to the area of the
den, not not the actual den,

541
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:31.440
but close enough, and I just
said, out into the woods, out

542
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:36.599
into the universe. I said,
listen, I got it. You know

543
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.440
where I live. I know where
you live. I won't come to your

544
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:44.360
house anymore. You don't come to
mind. I don't want to deal with

545
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:49.280
you anymore. I'm not dealing with
this, you know. And that was

546
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.559
that was the third That was the
third time. The second day, the

547
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.559
third time I had the dog man
encounter. And it's like, I know,

548
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:02.400
um, real quick, good that
took the lake. Tiffany as said,

549
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.519
you believe it's marking his territory.
Probably stay tuned for more Sasquatch out

550
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:15.199
to sea Ward right back after these
messages. Absolutely, I believe that's what

551
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.360
it was. I think it was
trying to tell me that he was the

552
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.760
Alpha and not me. Yeah,
that's pretty scary. Yeah, because I

553
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.760
didn't know now if this thing is
going to keep coming back around. That's

554
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:31.800
why I made it a point to
go back to his area, not exactly

555
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:36.440
to where the den was, you
know what I mean, but to his

556
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:42.199
area and led ten and talk to
the woods, talk to the universe and

557
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.719
say listen, I got the message
loud and clear. I won't come to

558
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.480
your house. You don't come to
mind. I know where you live,

559
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.280
you know where I lived. I
got it. I got it loud and

560
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.199
clear. You know, because the
next thing would have been going to war

561
00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:00.400
with the creature, you know what
I mean? And who wants to be

562
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:06.320
able that? Yeah? Well,
I mentioned last week we had missed Naoma

563
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:10.840
thin On and we got off talking
about Big Boot Tour or not Bigfoot dog

564
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:16.639
Man toward the end of the show, and she talked about it's a pretty

565
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.800
well known thing that there are seven
types of dog man. Would you agree

566
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.679
with that or have you heard something
different? Well, I mean, I

567
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:30.760
don't know exactly how many types there
are. I've only seen one type,

568
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:36.079
you know what I mean. I
know people have described different types, and

569
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:40.079
I know they have they have classifications
for these creatures, and the same thing

570
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.360
I think for the dog man too. They have a bunch to have seven

571
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.639
different types of dogman. I don't
know. I'll be brutally honest, I

572
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:53.679
don't know. Okay, because she
shared she sent me a picture and I'm

573
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:59.960
gonna go ahead and put it up
here of the seven type we weren't.

574
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.199
We tried to get it up last
week while she was on on the live

575
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:06.800
show and it's just too hectic.
Wasn't able to, but she sent it

576
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:12.920
and pop it up here. Do
any of those look familiar? Yes?

577
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.639
Um, the the hyena one looks
like the one that bluff charged us,

578
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:22.039
and the one to the right of
it. I can't really see what variant

579
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.880
that is. Variant three. I
think it says that looked like the one

580
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:34.679
that was under nith my front deck, at least from at least from what

581
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.079
I could see. You know what
I mean. Do you think you saw

582
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.320
two different ones at your house?
No? I see the hyena one was

583
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.039
the one that bluff charged us at
the late that night where we were byas

584
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:51.159
then. And I say that because
I the photograph. I believe I sent

585
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.440
it to you get a photograph the
snout is sweared off, you know,

586
00:42:54.840 --> 00:43:00.000
and it had pointy ears like like
a pit bull. Years have been cropped

587
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:06.280
and stuff, So I would've and
when we've seen it in the den with

588
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.400
the other one it had, it
looked like just like that. The other

589
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.039
thing is growling Dana one. Yeah, that's what it looked like when we

590
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.760
were filming it them in the den. That's what it was doing. It

591
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.360
was not happy that we had found
the den, and it was growling at

592
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.440
us. I'll tell you what,
man, that's not marefuel right there looking

593
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.079
at something like that. Yeah.
Well, you know, like I said,

594
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.159
if we would have seen it what
was actually bluff charging us, we

595
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.800
probably would have died of a heart
attack, you know what I mean.

596
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.159
I made everybody stand there ground because
I thought it was a big foot and

597
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.000
I just figured it was a bluff
charge, you know, like the bears

598
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.599
do. But if I would have
seen that thing on the other side of

599
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.719
the wall, I don't know what
I would have done. Yeah. Yeah,

600
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.599
that verse one up there, this
is top three variant one. That

601
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.000
that look was kind of apeish to
me, what do you think? And

602
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:04.079
also then the three variant three kind
of looks apish. Yeah, the type

603
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:10.000
three Variant three looks more more like
a sasquatch to me than anything else.

604
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:16.239
Um, the other one looks like
the first one. Variant three Type three

605
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:24.079
variant one kind of looks like,
uh like almost the K nine variant variant

606
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.000
one below only standing up, you
know what I mean? If you would

607
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.599
put that one down on all fours, it would look a lot like the

608
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:35.400
first one on the bottom, don't
you think? Yeah? I think so.

609
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.039
Yeah, I just wanted to.
I'll go ahead and take this down.

610
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.480
How people come up with that?
Is there someone out there that's seen

611
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.519
all of these? Do you do
you think there's anyone out there that's seen

612
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.360
them all? I think I think
there are a lot of people out there

613
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.320
that are have excitings of different creatures
all over the United States. It's just

614
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.119
like regular dog breeds. It's like
a hundred different dog. There could be

615
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:04.960
a hundred different breeds of this creature
as well. And the same thing with

616
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.719
the big foots. You know,
if you look at the primate family,

617
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:12.960
there's like a hundred different kind of
primates. There could be a hundred different

618
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.519
kind of big foots as well.
I know a lot of people have seen

619
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:21.000
the ones the big foots as far
with the round heads without the conical ages

620
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.480
round more looks like more like a
caveman kind of thing, you know what

621
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:30.880
I mean. But the only ones
I've ever seen were the ones with except

622
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:32.440
for that one I sent you the
picture of that looks like it's got like

623
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:37.000
a giant head and a goatee.
You know what I mean. You remember

624
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.760
that picture I sent you? Yeah, yeah, he sent me a lot

625
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:44.719
of pictures. I wasn't able to
get them on but I will share those.

626
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.079
That's fine, that's fine. Um. Yeah, So I mean,

627
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.679
but like I said, I seen
the one, the one that I got

628
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.119
the photograph of I seen in the
photograph. I didn't see him up close

629
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.000
and personal. Like the skunk gave
down in Florida, you know what I

630
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.559
mean. I didn't know it was
there until after somebody found I didn't even

631
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.360
find it in my photographs. Someone
else found it and sent it to me.

632
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.360
And the same thing with the dog
man. I didn't know the dog

633
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.719
man was in the photo. Because
I'll tell you the truth. We waited

634
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.960
maybe three minutes after the creature bluff
charged us, and nothing came over the

635
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:23.280
wall. And we jumped over that
wall and we went to the edge of

636
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:28.480
that ridge and looked down into the
swamp, and we didn't see anything there.

637
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.199
We didn't hear it leave. You
know, we never heard anything leave.

638
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:39.920
It must have creeped back down the
ridge and into the swamp, but

639
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.119
we didn't hear it leave. And
we were hearing stuff walking around all night

640
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.679
because of all the leaf litter from
the from the from the fall, and

641
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.559
when we didn't hear that thing leave. Man, And so I mean,

642
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.760
I'm just thankful that I didn't see
see it that night, you know what

643
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:02.800
I mean? Yeah, And Tiffany's
got a question for you. Absolutely,

644
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.480
do you think like bigfoot that they're
looking differs based on location. That's a

645
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.000
good question. Yeah, I do. I think I think that different there

646
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:17.599
are different types, um, depending
on you know, where they are across

647
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:22.480
the country. But but I say
that, but I also think that that

648
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:28.519
those different types may be all over
the country, you know what I mean.

649
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.639
Yes, So I guess the answer
is yes and no. Yeah,

650
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:37.320
yeah, because you know you hear
about with bigfoot out the Pacific Northwest.

651
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.199
You hear you think Patty and you
know how Patty looks Patterson gimblin at them

652
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.159
and then down here in the South
where I'm at, closer to Florida,

653
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:52.519
they get they tend to be a
little bit smaller and more aggressive I've heard.

654
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.960
I mean, I don't I don't
know. But the one I see

655
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:59.239
what's small, but he was aggressive, you know, and by no means

656
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:05.960
small, but smaller than the ones
in the Pacific lest yeah, I mean,

657
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.119
I don't know. The photograph I
have of the big guy underneath the

658
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:14.280
tree watching us of his if his
head is any any indication how big he

659
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.079
is, then he wants to have
been bigger than the one I've seen down

660
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.559
in Florida. And like I said, I've seen a bunch of them.

661
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:24.000
I seen them sunning themselves. I
see, I see, and most of

662
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:29.119
the ones I see, all I
have. They looked black from a distance,

663
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.280
but when you get closer to him
out the light shines on them.

664
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:37.559
They all have like a reddish tint
to their to their care or whatever,

665
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.760
you know. And and they're all
there, and they're all seemed to be,

666
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.039
at least the ones I've seen up
here. The white one I've seen

667
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:51.480
up here was again, you know, but he was down in a ditch

668
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.320
and he was leaning over onto the
tree because he was getting ready across the

669
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:59.639
parkway. He looked to be at
least seven eight feet tall, the one

670
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:04.840
I see and sunning himself on the
rocks. Um. I thought he was

671
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.760
small from the distance I was at
because you know, I figured if he

672
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.159
was big, he would take up
the whole rock, you know, cover.

673
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.519
But when we went actually Brian and
I went up to the rock to

674
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.519
look at it. The rock was
you monks, it was he just so

675
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.199
I was like, no, this
thing must have been bigger than I thought,

676
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.480
because there was even as big as
this rock is. He covered three

677
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.599
quarters of it, you know.
So they're they're big up here, like

678
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:36.639
I had someone from the Pacific Northwest, a friend of mine came here one

679
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:42.440
time and he was um up in
the Atarondex and he did like a helicopter

680
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.800
tour, you know. And he
and he said, man, he said,

681
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.360
I you know, I hear you
hear in New York. You think

682
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.239
in Manhattan, right, he said. When I when I first time I

683
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:59.159
seen the Aderondex, he said to
me, it looks just like the Pacific

684
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.400
Northwest. He goes, and he
goes, I can't believe how much you

685
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:06.440
know how wooded New York State is
like, oh, yeah, the Autamrondex

686
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.119
is like four million acres or something
like that. It's ridiculous, you know.

687
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:14.199
So and it's all mountaintops and think
goes it goes up like, uh,

688
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.199
you know, thousands of feet up, you know. So, I

689
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:22.360
mean it's just a few, a
few with a few. Was to look

690
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.880
at the Adirondics from from the sky, it would look exactly at the Pacific

691
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.960
Northwest, you know. And I'm
sure there are plenty of places between here

692
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:35.159
and there, like down south that
if you go and you look at the

693
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.679
all these mountains and everything, with
all these wood and everything, it all

694
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:42.480
looks it all looks, you know, like a mountainous range, like like

695
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:47.360
the Pacific Northwest as well, like
the Rocky Mountains. Yeah, and you

696
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.880
know, you think of when you
think of the State of Georgia down here

697
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.239
in the south, you think Atlanta
line is one of the bigger cities in

698
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:59.840
the country. But it blew me
away when I heard something like seventy percent

699
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:05.159
of the State of Georgia is forested. You know, it's for us,

700
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.079
it's woods. So how much,
yeah, how much of this country is

701
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:15.079
actually forested that we don't get to
see we don't step foot into those areas.

702
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.800
You need to tell me that something
can't be hidden and living out in

703
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.280
all of these places. Yeah,
you know, I had to. I

704
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:27.639
had that number at one point.
I want to say, like seventy e

705
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:31.360
either seventy or seven hundred million acres
of the United States as far as I

706
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.079
had that number at one time somewhere
in one of my research beds, you

707
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.199
know what I mean. Yeah,
yeah, I know. It's a ridiculous

708
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:45.000
number. It's so huge. We
were supposed to have Lisa on it and

709
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:47.639
our a producer, and that would
be something that's gonna be something we can

710
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.559
do in the future, as we'll
have her to jump on and look that

711
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.000
up for us real quick, because
something like that, like how many acres

712
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.360
is uninhabited in the in the United
States? Yeah, I think I pulled

713
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:07.639
up I went to the Forestry and
I looked up in the United States Forestry,

714
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.920
you know what I mean, how
many And it said, I want

715
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:15.360
to say, either seventy million or
seven hundred million. Like I said,

716
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:21.000
the number was humongous. And you
just when you hear that number and how

717
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:27.239
big those numbers are, and you
know, everybody thinks there's no woods left

718
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.679
in the United States because of the
big cities. Yeah, man, and

719
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:37.320
there is this country itself is like
nine covered in woods, you know what

720
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.280
I mean, just the United States, never mind once you get up to

721
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.639
Canada or something, you know.
Yeah, So yeah, I know it's

722
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.559
crazy. The number. It's a
crazy number, a crazy nar. I

723
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:51.440
used to have that number of the
top of my head because I always wanted

724
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.440
to do because I had the number. So the Adirondecks, which I believe

725
00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:00.559
are four million acres, and I'm
in the southern tier of the Catskill Mountain

726
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:04.559
Range, and there's Catskill Mountain Range. Just the Catskill Mountain Range, which

727
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.000
is considered a small range compared to
the out of Rundicks, is like five

728
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:13.559
hundred thousand acres, you know what
I mean. So yeah, my buddy,

729
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:20.079
buddy flat Rock here says Alabama has
approximately twenty three million acres of forest,

730
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:24.119
which is about sixty nine percent of
the state's area, and more than

731
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:29.400
ninety three percent it's privately owned.
It's a little kind of room for these

732
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.760
things to behind. Oh yeah,
no, there's there's room. There's room

733
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:36.000
for these things and a lot of
other things as well, because you know,

734
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.960
I've seen. I've seen other things
as well, you know, on

735
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:45.679
the parkway four thirty in the morning, you know what I mean, I've

736
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.440
seen I've seen a rake out there
one time. And you know, again,

737
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.280
I thought, you know, I
thought I was hallucinating when I seen

738
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:59.920
it, when I seen the white
sasquatch. I can't tell you how many

739
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.760
times went back to that same location
to look, just to not only double

740
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:09.679
check, but triple and quadruple check, because you know, you your brain

741
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.519
can't comprehend what you're seeing when your
eyes are seeing when you see these things,

742
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.840
they really it really can't because they're
not supposed to be out there.

743
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.079
You know. See what Tiffany's put
up here. And once you put on

744
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:29.400
one point nine billion acres, is
that what it is? That's yeah,

745
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:30.760
I told you it's a big number, man, is you know what I

746
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.880
mean, it's it's crazy, It's
absolutely crazy. Yet so, um,

747
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.480
there's there's stuff out there. Yeah, there's stuff out there. You thank

748
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:43.039
me for that, Tiffany, Thank
you, Tiffany. Absolutely. Um.

749
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.360
So I mean you know, good, there are these things out there.

750
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.480
Yes, And like I tell everybody, and I tell everybody when you when

751
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.840
you go out into the woods swatching, or if you want to go to

752
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:58.679
research a dog man, which I
would recommend you not do. I don't

753
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.480
research you dogment. I got to
Augment signed up behind me. But we

754
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:06.119
just take reports now, you know
what I mean, because I don't want

755
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:12.400
any any more more of them come
into my house. And so it's just

756
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.559
I tell people all the time,
when you go into the woods, protect

757
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:23.360
yourself spiritually and protect yourself physically,
because you don't know what you're going to

758
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:29.719
encounter when you're in the woods.
You know. And when I'm out there

759
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:36.320
scouting out new locations and I see
families hiking through the woods and the mother

760
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.440
and father are on the phone and
the kids are running off, you know,

761
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:43.239
one hundred feet ahead of them,
and they're not paying to any attention.

762
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.760
It's you know, it's not my
place to tell people how to raise

763
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:50.880
their children. But man, you
go around one of those turns and those

764
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.960
kids are gone, what are you
gonna do? Or you go around one

765
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:59.760
of those turns and you come across
the mountain lion or a hungry black bear,

766
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:04.280
you know what I mean. Black
bears up here are six feet tall,

767
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:07.159
five pounds. You you run across
one of them when they just wake

768
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:12.320
up in the spring and they're starving. You could be dinner. You know,

769
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.199
there's there's no doubt about it.
And we got mountain lions up here,

770
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:17.840
and we got wolves up here,
and you know, of course the

771
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:22.000
forest we Depharmer says, no,
there's no such thing. But we get

772
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:25.119
him on my Thundelow got him on
game trail, his game cameras where he

773
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:29.519
goes, you know, hunting,
deer hunting. He's got him. He's

774
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.920
got him on his game camp,
you know what I mean. So they're

775
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:37.760
here. They're here. Yeah,
all right. That that's some really really

776
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:39.880
good advos. They're on a good, good spot. To end it,

777
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:45.159
we've gone over an hour, so
before we get out of here, tell

778
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.519
everybody where they can find you and
and all that stuff. Yeah, you

779
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.199
can find me most of them.
I'm mostly on Facebook, the Bronxville Power

780
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:58.880
and Normal Society, the Facebook group, the Facebook page, UM the New

781
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:05.840
York State Dog and Project to New
York State Sasquatch Organization and the New York

782
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.400
State UFO Project as well, and
UM, you know that's where I am.

783
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.880
You want if you have if you
have any questions and you want to

784
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.119
get a hold of me. You
can contact me and a messenger. I'll

785
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:20.639
be more than happy to answer anything
you have. You know, I'm pretty

786
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.840
pretty easy, accessible kind of guy. Yeah, I will attest to that.

787
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:31.000
Always responds quickly and he's easy to
get a hold of. Just a

788
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.559
really good guy and a great guest. I appreciate you coming on again.

789
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.280
How wait till you hear what happens
to us, me and Brian when he

790
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:43.000
tells you about his dog Man's story
is experience our well, it was our

791
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:47.519
experience. But I'll let him tell
it because you know he really enjoys selling

792
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:53.400
that one. All right, buddy, I appreciate it. Appreciate it coming

793
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:58.880
on again, and have a good
night. Good night. They say you

794
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:07.400
don't got him, go home,
but you can't stay and I don't want

795
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:38.559
to be alone. World out trying
to try that time everything calling right back,

796
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:46.280
right back, my joy for me
to stay right now. I'm coming

797
00:58:46.519 --> 01:00:02.800
right away. Time back for collings
us to us. I am

