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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jagan Zalaz on Fox Sports

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Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Rivera. He's risen from the dead
or from the bed. Jagan z ownce.

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I'm here, Steve Bareley, but
I'm here. I hope you are

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you still in bed? Suld you
rise from the bed. No, I'm

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at my desk. I'm at my
computer. I don't feel great about it,

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but I'm here enough strength to get
out of bed. Good, good,

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good, And our guy was under
control. We had a little scary

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moment, but we're good. We're
good. No one needs to know what

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happened. But hey, welcome to
where you go Adam where to help us

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pull it together? Yeah? Gotcha? Welcome back, Jay. If you

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faint, I'll call nine one one. Yeah, well you'll hear something like

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you'll hear the microphone followers. Okay, well, welcome back. Here's a

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Friday show. We have a pretty
good show. We've been trying to get

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Ray Wells on for a while,
so he agreed to come on. He's

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obviously with the with the collective,
go ahead and explain. Yes, uh,

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the the Desert Takeover collective that basically
puts puts funds together for the football

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team. It's a it's a collective
that you know, we're we I guess

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we believe and is involved in as
much a whole bunch of things as it

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relates to, you know, getting
players some some ni L money, uh,

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conceivably to give players an understanding of
what's available to them if they decide

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to come to Arizona or in most
cases stay at Arizona. So that's that's

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his job. He's a former player
at Arizona, played in the Mike Stoops

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era. You know, really smart
guy. I'm interested to see just how

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much things ramped up this year with
n i L and you know, Jed

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Fish leaving and how much work they
had to do and what kind of what

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they had to do. So it'll
be an interesting conversation, right, Okay,

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maybe you just can clarify some stuff
with the international players, just just

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randomly and the football team doesn't have
any but we'll talk about you know,

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in the in general form about the
basketball, right, yeah, okay,

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And then in the second hour,
Javio Morales is gonna a step away from

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a signing a sunny Sunnyside and talk
to us about the high school playoffs.

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There's a lot of stuff going on
right now with school ends. A lot

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of teams from southern Arizona are in
the playoffs, so get caught up in

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that. Yeah, so there's a
yeah, a lot going on. The

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softball and baseball playoffs are pretty deep. I think most of them are to

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the quarterfinals by now, so we'll
just see what all's going on. You've

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also got track, I think this
time of the year, so we'll just

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see what what what's happening out there
for the state championships, right, okay,

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okay, well you've missed. What
have you missed? Well? You

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know, Okay, here's here's the
thing. Because I was talking to Analys

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today, texting her because she's headed
to LA and wanted a couple of phone

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numbers. Another reason why I don't
like sports. Why I shouldn't say that

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I'm I'm not a big fan,
but I'm a fan. I just don't

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have teams a fan not a fan
of a team. Patrick Beverley, Oh

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man, you know, Steve,
these guys, I don't you know,

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the the the entitlement that they have
that they feel like any they can do

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anything, and that's what that is, Like no, I can do whatever

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I want and nobody can stop me. Kind of kind of guy. Now.

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I know he came back and apologized
today, which is fine, but

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you know, want to treat a
reporter like that, to treat a female

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reporter like that, and then to
treat a long time, well respected female

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reporter like you don't follow my podcast, So I'm not going to answer your

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questions. I think he should be
kicked out of the league. I really

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do. On top of throwing the
ball at the at the fan, kick

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him out of the league and say, okay, now, who are you

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right? No, exactly, You're
the second person that hears say that publicly.

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I'm not wanting if they kick him
out of the league, and even

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for one year, his career is
over because he'll be older, right,

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and do you really want him?
I've even heard you had a podcast that's

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who cares? Right? One more? One more guy who I would never

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want on any team, whether it's
a basketball team, a public relations team,

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a Tilly wings team, anything.
I would never want. I would

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never want to be around that guy, because that guys just a miserable person

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making hundreds of millions of dollars and
is figuring out a way to not be

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happy. Well, here's the funny
thing about it. The worst thing that

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happened that night was not about the
ESPN reporter. It was him engaged with

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the throw the ball, not blind
the balls, to throw the ball at

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the fence twice. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. All those things add

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up to me to, like you
said, a one year suspension, which

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basically means you're out of the league
and then and then go off and let's

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see what you do with the rest
of your life. Patrick Beverley, I

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really, Steve, When When when
when people who have caught every break in

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life to be in the position that
he's in and then you do that with

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it. I feel like it should
be taken away from him, I really

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do. They're not going to kick
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suspension. He'll get a suspension,
Yeah, maybe a couple of games.

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Steven doesn't I don't know. Okay, let's say he's suspended. Let's say

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he gets a game suspension, so
what so what what is that to him?

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It's nothing to do. You think
the jah Morant situation was worse than

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what happened last night with Beverly because
he only got twenty five. I don't

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see Beverly what. He didn't engage
with fans, right, he was more

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self inflicted. Pardon pardon the expression. Yeah, so he was self inflicted.

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This guy engaged with fans not once
but twice, and then he laid

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it on the ESPN. ESPN already
said he's not going to be on any

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any of our shows anymore. He's
just done. So there's that with the

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ESPN. Now with the fan,
though, you start engaging and it wasn't

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malice in the Palace or anything like
that. It was it was dumb with

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some rum or whatever. It was
just Steve. It's it's in the neighborhood

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though, because he essentially assaulted a
fan in the seats. Yeah, not

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once but twice, two different ones, Yes, two different ones. So

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we'll see what happens with him.
But there you go. Will you understand

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me more when I see I'm not
a fan of this or that it's because

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of these dudes who make it not
enjoy on me. Yeah, yeah,

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you know, and and I mean, I don't know. The NBA has

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got to be pulling its hair out
over over something again. Okay, so

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what somebody said, you better go
apologize right now or you're gonna lose millions

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of dollars. So we apologize.
I don't believe he meant the apology.

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I'll never believe he meant the apology. I'll never believe that he did it

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on his own, you know,
and that really bothers me. Yeah,

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you guys who do that, you
should, Yeah, you should. So

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we'll see what happens with them.
I didn't want to start the show that

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way, but I just had the
top of my head. So, you

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know, here we go again with
some guys that you know, malcontents paid

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in the bucks. But Steve don't. If we don't say things, if

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people don't say things, if there's
no if there's tolerance for this, then

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it continues to happen. And it
does continue to happen even though guys do

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get punished, and so it seems
to me the punishments are never enough.

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Yeah, so we'll see what happens
it's gonna take a week or two before

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they sort this whole thing out.
So here we go. Well, here

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we are at the beginning of the
show. It's a Friday. Like we

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said, a lot of stuff going
on baseball tonight. We talked about that

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yesterday, and so what's what's going
on in your world, your thoughts?

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Well, tennis is going on right
now, the Arizona men's tennis and the

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NCUBA tournament. They got the doubles
point, which is a very big deal

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because they play three doubles matches and
whoever wins two of them gets one point

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on the way to trying to get
four. So they got they got the

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double spoints. And I win three
singles matches to win to win this first

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round match against Boise State. Yeah, okay, In fact, I just

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got a text. You're gonna be
with us all day, right, but

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you're gonna be on the phone.
You have to tell people you're not in

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studio. Jonathan Peerlman just texting me
if he can come on maybe about three

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forty to talk about his big start
of this weekend. Won't take that long,

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so I'll say yes, absolutely,
Yeah, yeah, we can get

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him on the phone. Yeah.
What else was there to Jonathan? Yeah,

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I know, And there's been a
lot of changes at the FC,

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a lot of changes, So we'll
talk to you. He needs to promote

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this weekend's event. There's a lot
of stuff going on in this town.

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I know that the before made the
fourth be with you down at tp FC

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Tucson. A big fight tomorrow with
Canelo and and uh and and de la

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Hoya. That would be a great
fight, would it be? Uh?

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Yes? Have you seen some of
that Sugar Skulls are the sugar Skulls are

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home with this weekend? We hardly
mentioned them. Wow? Wow. So

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there's a lot of things going on
in tu soon. Graduation ends this week.

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You know. An unfortunate thing today
and I don't want to say this

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from breaking news. One of our
guests we just had on was let go

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a Channel four. Yes. Yeah, And the thing about it is we

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know a lot of those people there. Yeah, yeah, with Ryan Reynoldson,

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right, Matt Reynoldson, Matt Reynoldson, our friend Miles Standers from you

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know, worked with for years at
the paper. Lapito Morio is quote unquote

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retiring. And then a guy named
al mazeke back about a few issues ago.

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kVA. They I think last year
was their seventy fifth anniversary, so

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biz Tucson. We did a story
on them, you know, going through

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seventy five years. And Al Mazeka, who's one of the backroom guys right

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but started way back in the seventies. I interviewed him and he's one of

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the people laid off. So just
you know, a getting people, you

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know, a good group of people
that got you know that. It's just

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one of those unfortunate things that happen. It's all over the place, right

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and again at k AWAY. I
also wanted to say I posted somewe I

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mean Matt Reynoldson just got there in
October. I know, I know young

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dude who's pretty good at what he
does, and now he is no longer.

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I wanted to say, I don't
know if you saw my post today

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on my Facebook page about yesterday it
was our four year anniversary. I did,

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I did. Sorry, I missed
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paper? You could brobb me,
you could beat me a piece of paper.

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I'm really sorry I missed it.
I missed it, but it did.

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I didn't feel good yesterday. I
brought brought I brought cake. We

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all ate it, so no worry
about it. Don't worry about it,

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okay. But a lot of good
stuff going on. Obviously we're still here

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after all these years. We hope
to continue. Obviously it's going to be

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a dry summer. I was already
ready for the dry summer. So okay,

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the fourth anniversary is supposed to be
fruit flowers or appliances, So fruitt

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me a toaster or something I do
good. I did bring in pineapple today,

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so sorry, okay, I'll remember
that fifty. We'll have to worry

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about number five now. But okay, what else? What else is going

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on in town? All this the
events are going on, football, just

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watching, just watching the stuff.
You know, we keep watching the transfer

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portal pile up with people. Now
there's an a s U receiver who's looking

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at Arizona. Elijah Badger. Uh
uh saw something from Justin Spears that Kevin

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Green is visiting Washington, Washington today, So uh, Jed Fish trying to

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snatch one out of here at the
last minute. But if you know,

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when if aj Green leaves and Elijah
Badger comes, you're you're breaking even pretty

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much. Maybe you're doing even better. I don't know, because Badger was

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a SU's best receiver last year.
Yeah, so we'll see what happens with

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all that, uh and uh and
more. Maybe I think the window closed,

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right, the window closed. Now
they just got yeah not yeah,

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you can't get into the portal now, you're you know you can you you

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can go somewhere, but you're not
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And you saw that, you saw
that the u A as making their rounds.

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Now they went to Phoenix yesterday.
I think it was for the caravan

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or van tour. I think there's
an event here on Tuesday, right,

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and then they go to Yuma and
they go somewhere else. I think I'm

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not too sure where, maybe flag
stuff to go show who they are,

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make an appearance. Yeah, so
I was I was flat on my back

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and didn't get get to hear.
But did did you get some nice tips

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for the Kentucky I did? D
was fantastic, D yesterday, D was

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fantastic and and I gotta, I
gotta, you better listen to D's picks

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by Doug. You know her dad, So of course Dad's gonna come in

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and say, I think I liked
a couple over picks. I think the

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Oaks just went off. I think
the Oaks went off, so I wanted

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to see how that went. I
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we'll see. And it's gonna be
wet. And it's wet. It rained

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today, yeah, rain tomorrow.
Yeah yeah. I flipped the channel earlier

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today and I saw that it was
pretty muddy. So we'll see what it

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looks like tomorrow. Okay, yeah, so and we didn't I what's your

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name never returned my call, Richard, so I might ask to still get

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his his sheet to see what happened. What do you yeah, yeah,

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okay, yeah, we have about
a minute and a half. Yeah,

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So anyways, like I said,
just uh, you know, just kind

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of paying as much attention to stuff, you know, watching the playoffs over

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and over again. You know,
I'm just watching a lot of baseball over

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uh, Adam here is like saying, God, I wish I had that

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to you now that okay, Hey, let's take a break. It's about

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the ball on Tucson Sports. Stay
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welcome back to Whying the Ball here
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Rivera. He's Jacon Zewas. Now
we have way wells from the Desert Takeover

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Collective. How are you, Ray, I'm doing well. How are you

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guys doing today? We're doing well. Jay is remote, so his questions

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might be delayed. But Ray,
I'm wondering. You're always busy, right,

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You're trying to get money, You're
trying to get this people to join

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in. Is it more busy now
given that people are jumping ship and coming

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back and coming in at this time? You know what? It? Really?

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I think that's just the nature of
college football in general now that it's

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turned into year round recruiting in some
ways, and so while coaches are recruiting,

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collectives are constantly trying to find new
and innovative ways to to really find

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like an il deals for players and
also just to be able to meet and

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talk with donors and try and find
new sources of revenue. So so right,

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you know, Ray, I'm I'm
remote, so I'm calling from I'm

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in from home. But anyways,
was it was this year though? It

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seemed to us like there was a
lot more chaos this year, if mainly

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partly for Arizona because of the coaching
change and that kind of thing. Did

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you find yourselves, you know,
even busier doing stuff because you know,

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trying to make sure that players knew
what was available to them and that kind

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of thing. Did it seem more
chaotic this year than maybe the last couple

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of years. Absolutely? I think
you hit on the head with with Jeff

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Fish leaving to go to Washington.
What that did was it actually allowed players

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at thirty window where they could transfer. So typically during the school year there

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are two transfer windows, one in
December and then one in the spring.

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We just actually closed the spring transfer
portal. It's fifteen days in April,

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but there's an extra stipulation in that
if your coach needs and goes from the

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school, players have the option to
have a thirty day window. So where

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most schools only have to deal with
two transfer windows, Arizona unfortunately had to

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deal with three. But I think
there was some good that came out of

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that one. We had awesome young
men that chose to stay and make two

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sonam at the University of Arizona their
home and have a chance to build a

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legacy here. You had tons of
players, whether it was was Gun or

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Maldonado and Trading Sukes, Noah t
mac all these guys they bonded together and

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the band of brothers that they stay
here and want to build them in,

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especially University of Arizona. But we
also saw a huge wave of support from

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the Arizona in the Tucson community in
terms of financial support for the program.

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I think that was those two things
were huge for us this year. So

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it helps us to really navigate a
lot of the chaos and calm it down.

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And I have to say for me, you know, I've been a

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part of the collective for a little
over a year now. We actually have

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an awesome advisory board that has done
that. It steps up huge. That

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membership has grown in the last five
six months. Where there used to be

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maybe one or two dollars that were
heavily involved with it, now we're in

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a situation where we have they're more
like ten to twelve. There are a

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dozen members there that are actively working
to help the collective. Well, you

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know, Ray, I'm an older
guy, both of us are. I

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really don't like the nil I know
you can't avoid it. Anymore. But

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I'm all for the guys getting money. I'm fine with that. I'm curious

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if and you don't have to give
me then example or the I'm not asking

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for that. But if Steve Rivera
was a pretty good play, are coming

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in from somewhere and I said,
ray, Okay, guys, I think

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I'm pretty good. This is what
I deserve. Quarter of a million,

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half a million, blah blah blah. Do they have that much power to

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say this is what I want?
Well, I will say this, I

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don't know if power is the best
way to put it. There are some

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players that are out there that have
that amount of leverage. It's no different

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than it always has been. A
five star quarterback that could be a program

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changer, a star receiver, defensive
back, tackle, whatever it is.

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There are gonna be those special and
those rare players that, yeah, the

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leverage is there because you know they
can make an immediate impact in your program

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and they can be a serious game
changer for you. So those players,

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Yes, I think what has gotten
a little a little out of whack is

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that you have players. We have
a rating system, right, there's five

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star, four or three all the
way down to the you know two a

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one star, And what's happened now
with nil is you have uh, guys

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that typically we're just happy to have
a roster spot saying hey, I'm a

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three star, I'm becoming and work
my way up and do my deal.

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I think you now have like two
star players saying well, I want thirty

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forty grand to come play for your
school, And it's like, well,

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no, you know, the market, the market kind of dictate what you

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get, and you know, depending
on where you are on that scale,

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you know, between a one star
and a five star determines your value and

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your leverage and so but if you're
a five star quarterback that has the potential

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to be a Hypman Trophy winner,
you have a little more leverage. Okay,

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So, having having said that,
when when when does the line cross

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where an athlete who's looking for some
nil money goes from getting it from the

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collective to going directly with somebody like
Humberto Lopez, who we had on our

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show and who told us that he's
he's got a relationship with tam Ac,

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has a contract with him tact.
You know, he's paying team Act to

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do certain things. Where does that
where does that take place? And how

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does that take place? And do
you work with boosters like Umberto and others

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who might be providing or have resources
for the players. How does that all

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work together? So that's that actually
is the the that's actually the genesis of

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what NIL should be. There should
be individuals student athletes that are working with

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businesses and companies to use their name, image and likeness to promote that business

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while also being compensated for it.
So what we do in that different situations

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and literally I just had it's funny
you mentioned that player. We had some

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contract stuff out that on Berto Lopez
was helping us with and what we do

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is just help to make sure all
the tea's across and all the eyes are

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dotted, that we're in compliance with
everything, to make sure that that everyone's

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doing what they need to do to
make sure these players don't have any issues

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in terms of rule breaking. So
that's kind of are involved there. We've

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had some other deals where companies,
local business owners have wanted to do deals

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and the players can do direct deals. We have things do as selective and

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we kind of help out to make
sure we manage the process for them to

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make sure, like I said,
everything is done properly. But in I

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l in its truest rare. His
truest form should be players making deals kind

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of one on with a local business
to be able to market that particular business

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and to be able to be compensated
for it. The good. But let

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let me let's go, Steve.
Let Steve, let me let me real

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quick. Let me give you an
example. Let's say you got a player

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who thinks he's worth X and he
comes to you and you say, we

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can only give you this and it's
not what he's looking for. Do you

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help him find somebody that might get
him X? Or do you try and

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hook him up with somebody? You
know, That's what I'm trying to get

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at. How does it work?
How do they get that relationship with somebody

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who might be able to do a
little more than maybe the collective can do.

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That's I think those are just rare
and unique situations, Okay, And

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it depends. It really just depends
on the player. I think. You

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know, if it's like I said, if it's someone that's impactful, then

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yeah, there might be someone that
can that's an additional a phone call it

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needs to be made, or we
can say, hey, does anyone have

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a deal that would be able to
accommodate this. But that all I think

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what's happened now with the NCAA and
then the recent rules about whether or not

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because in the past, and I
just say this up until let's say,

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two months ago, in the last
two months, with all the things that

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happened with NCAAA, the state of
Tennessee, State of Virginia still in the

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NCAA and basically getting an injunction pass
where collectives can now offer potential recruits deals

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and things of that nature. We
really haven't gotten into a lot of that,

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so it's like, here's the deal, you can take it or leave

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it. But that was kind of
our space to what we did. So

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now we're in a situation where we
can kind of expand that a little bit

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more, but we're still very cautious
about that because you want to have players

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that want to be here, because
they want to come to University Arizona,

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want to be a part of something
special. You don't want someone that's tasing

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dollars and if that's your only goal
is to come here and get money.

408
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We actually have to be a little
bit cautious because you may decide, hey,

409
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I don't want to be here because
they're not paying me enough, and

410
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then not transfer and so you know, it's a balancing act and it's not

411
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I wouldn't say that this dicey,
but it's definitely getting harder to find the

412
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genuine article and those students that are
like, hey, I just want a

413
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little bit of money now, but
I want to play football the money now.

414
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That's very tough. I mean,
that's tough. It's funny to me

415
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give you this example. So about
about three weeks ago or a month ago,

416
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I saw one of my colleagues in
the college Basketbaorld tweets something saying that

417
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the portal is going to be jumping
pretty soon because one the final payment on

418
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:06.079
nil deals are coming in. So
Joe Blow gets paid March fifteenth or whatever,

419
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.319
and then then that's his last payment
and then he jumps. How sad

420
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:15.240
is that? How sad is that? You know what? It's really sad.

421
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.359
But again, some of these these
hulawsuits against the NCAA are actually helping

422
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.559
with that, because there was I
mean, I'll give you the best example

423
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that was out there that happened recently
was the young man, the offensive lineman

424
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who transferred from the University of Alabama
to Iowa, was there for like a

425
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:34.880
month or two, got a nice
little pay day, and then chance back

426
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to Alabama. So the original rule
for the NCAAAA was that you could not

427
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you couldn't have language and contract in
il contracts that that specified that a student

428
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ap was tied to a suit of
students enrollment. So for example, you

429
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know, we had a contract that
says, hey, you'd have to be

430
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a member of the University of Arizona. We go to school at University of

431
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Arizona and be a part of football
team in order to be able to have

432
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.960
this deal be balid. Well,
the NCAA put the kibosh on that and

433
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said, no, you can't do
that because that's basically the essentially pay for

434
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play. Well, in response to
that, there were some lawsuits saying,

435
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well, you have student athletes.
The NCAA allowed student athletes to transfer whenever

436
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they want it. So you have
kids that are going to two different schools

437
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.559
and getting nil deals and getting paid, which it wasn't right for the collective

438
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:29.480
or this student athlete legitimately was paid
based on where they were. That rule

439
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.279
has subsequently been removed, so now
collectives have the ability to say no,

440
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.839
you know what, you're not here
anymore if we can determine your contract.

441
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.440
Now there's a little more nuanced in
the language and the contract. But now

442
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.839
we have a situation where collectives or
will have a little bit more protection for

443
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.279
student athletes to just take money and
run. I think you've got job security

444
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for a long time, you know
what I mean. But it happens.

445
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And what's sad about it is is
that a lot of collectives. Now there

446
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.839
were some collectic that we're doing year
long contract but because of the way the

447
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.440
transfer portal works now they've had to
break up their contracts, which is what

448
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.400
we do. So our contracts are
pretty much scheduled. There's two different contracts

449
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:15.640
in the year, and it's around
the transfer portal. So any compensation that

450
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a student athlete earned from GES a
takeover, theybel that's completed whatever work is

451
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required and that time frame. So
they are do their compensation, but we

452
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make sure we have some safeguards in
places that we're not paying someone who has

453
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the potential to walk out of the
door with a large checks. Jay,

454
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let me ask one another quick question, and I hope you can answer this.

455
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Ray. Let's say, and I'll
use Bollows as an example. Okay,

456
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.839
he's an international guy. He worked
for an ac company or whatever.

457
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.960
I'm not sure how that works.
Now he leaves, how is that international

458
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.720
thing taking care of? We get
conflicting reports of how it actually works because

459
00:31:52.720 --> 00:32:00.759
you're not supposed to work if you're
an international player. So that's international players.

460
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.720
It is a little bit of a
tricky deal. And so I'm not

461
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.759
familiar with with Lumar's contract and how
it all worked out, so I don't

462
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.799
want to speak too much on it. I would just say for our for

463
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:17.960
our football players that are our international
players, you have you can't We basically

464
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.279
adhere to that they can't work because
they're not US citizens and there's a clause

465
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.599
to how we work in our contract. So we basically have passive income for

466
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.240
them, where they're literally strictly getting
paid for their likeness and their image,

467
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.160
which keeps us in compliance. But
we don't have to really worry about it.

468
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.759
I mean, Blumars. Like I
said, I don't know all the

469
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:37.559
ins and outs of it, so
I don't want to speak to it.

470
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.559
I just know how we do it
for our international players. I think right

471
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.759
now we have two and maybe picking
up a third. Well, okay,

472
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.000
Jay, you have another one or
I have another one. I think,

473
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.920
yeah, go ahead. And I
just and I just lost that thought.

474
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.839
I think it was in basketball football. No, it'll come to me,

475
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:04.440
though, It'll come to me old
on. No, right, here we

476
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.519
go, here, we go so
many times. And you've been doing this

477
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.400
for more than a year now.
And everybody, let's say Steve Rivera again,

478
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.680
jumps played for Arizona, love,
loved it here, got paid,

479
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.480
you know, maybe fifty thousand or
whatever, but didn't play that much.

480
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:22.440
He jumps to he jumps to Colorado
or whatever, and and everyone the first

481
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:23.559
thing that everyone says, well,
he's going to get the bag. Now.

482
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.759
Sometimes it's not about the bag.
Do you see that happening when it's

483
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.640
not about the bag? Absolutely,
I think there's there are situations that it's

484
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.160
still college football, right. And
then why the transfer portal originally started was

485
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.599
you had you had athletes that were
you know, you're you go to a

486
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:43.240
school, but hey, now you're
fourth on a depth chart and you want

487
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.559
an opportunity to play, and that
opportunity may be presented itself for another university,

488
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.400
so that helps. And I think
that's still the case. You know,

489
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.599
good players that go into the portal
are going to command. Like I

490
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.279
said, we talked about leverage earlier, there's still gonna be that leverage for

491
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.400
really, you know, all American
are all confidence players, but there are

492
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.759
a lot of There are a lot
of young men that aren't looking for a

493
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:07.079
pay, They're looking for an opportunity
to play and just get on the field.

494
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:12.360
And so you know, those are
the ones. I can give you

495
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.440
a great example of that that recently
happened. Now he's had since left,

496
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:22.000
but uh, you know last year
an example of that for us was the

497
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:30.480
defensive tackle Good Lord, knock that
nigg of his name. I'm contagious,

498
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.599
It's contagious. We forget stuff all
the time. Oh my goodness, what

499
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.519
is my man's name? To be
transferred here? Because he was bold and

500
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:43.639
deep, start will an opportunity to
play you know, more downs, Bill

501
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:49.760
Bill Norton, Okay, Bill,
because he wanted to play, he you

502
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.480
know, be an every down player, which he wasn't at the University of

503
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:53.920
Georgia. And it really and I
can say this, you know, in

504
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.039
all honesty for him, that young
man was was a pleasure to work with

505
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.440
and he was grateful for anything that
he any type of complication that came his

506
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.840
way, But it was really about
the opportunity. And I think even with

507
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:10.119
him transferring, he I think he's
ten transferred on to UT often. He's

508
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:14.400
gone back to one following our former
deacon, the coordinator, Giant Ant,

509
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.960
and I think, you know,
it's just the new coaching staff wasn't necessarily

510
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.559
a fit for him. But it
wasn't about the money. Yeah, they're

511
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.239
probably going to offer him something,
but for him, I know that kid

512
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.440
personally, it's not about the money. With him, it's literally about football

513
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:31.920
and the opportunity. Yeah, okay, well yeah, you know U is

514
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:39.800
it crazy? Did you know what
you were getting into? Yeah? Because

515
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:45.039
because it's evolved, I mean just
just in the last year. I would

516
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.719
say this when I started. Just
in the last year, the NCAA has

517
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.559
made a couple of rule changes.
One with then you know the unlimited transfer

518
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.639
rule. Kids just transfer as many
times as they want. That makes things

519
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.559
very difficult, and it also makes
it different goo for coaches because you are

520
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:07.079
in a constant battle to recruit basically
inside your own four walls. It's not

521
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:08.800
just going out and finding kids.
And you know, whether it's in a

522
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:13.320
transfer portal or doing high school recruiting, you have to be on top of

523
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:17.280
it every single day within your own
building, which you take me for the

524
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.800
collectives, we have to be on
our toes because there might be somebody that's

525
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.079
trying to stick their toe in the
water to leave, which we have to

526
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:28.360
be be fully aware of that.
Like I said, it's the safeguard not

527
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.880
setting up some opportunity for a young
man that's going to leave. So well

528
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.719
that's that, go ahead, stave
no, no, go ahead, you

529
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.519
go well, well that's the thing, right, is that it's changed.

530
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.719
It changes so much almost on a
daily basis. You know, one day

531
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.760
we're hearing, well it's this,
and then you're no, it's not really

532
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.559
that, it's this. And how
that's got to be the hardest thing of

533
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:58.960
all is that not knowing from day
to day what you're dealing with. You

534
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.119
know what, there was a stretch
there, We had a stretch out I

535
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:06.800
want to say January February where there
were like a ton of memost flying around

536
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.320
and things happening. But it's still
but what are we do from our company

537
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:12.480
from a Blueprints four standpoint, it's
like, hey, we're going to stay

538
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.199
steady on the path that we know
to be tried and true, and you

539
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.400
know, all those things are going
to happen, and we'll adjust when we

540
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.679
need to and we make kind of
micro adjustments as we go along. But

541
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.000
our focus is like, hey,
we know this what we do, we

542
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:28.199
know what works, and we're going
to say steady on that. We'll make

543
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.639
the adjustments as necessary. But I
think if you have a solid plan in

544
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.960
place, no matter what's going on
around you, you still focus on your

545
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.360
process and that helps kind of keep
you. It keeps you stable and always

546
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.800
moving in a positive direction if you're
constantly changing with the wind every time it

547
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.760
blows. And this business is going
to take you everywhere and you're gonna end

548
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.840
up nowhere. And so for us, we kind of like what we do

549
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:58.079
across I think Blueprint now we have
like twenty seven properties throughout all the Power

550
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.559
fives or Color four four and a
half or whatever we're calling it these days,

551
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:07.840
because you know, the Pac twelve
is pretty much done. But yeah,

552
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.800
it's there's a lot of happening,
but this but the basis of what

553
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.480
nil is has not changed, and
I think we as long as you say

554
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.360
we stay true to that, we're
going to be okay. Well, Ray,

555
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.079
we love this segment with you because
we find out a lot of new

556
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:22.920
things, old things. Appreciate get
on the road. We got to get

557
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.559
out of here too, have a
be safe, have fun. Yeah,

558
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:29.679
you know what I just want to
before I go, I want to say

559
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:35.360
I'm actually hit up to Phoenix for
my moil service for heap Ray through Wildcat

560
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.079
who recently passed away. So we're
actually going to celebrate his life tonight.

561
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.760
There's probably going to be one hundred
couple hundred wildcats and attendance, and just

562
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.880
want to give a shout out eastcast
Ray and his family. There will always

563
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.840
be in our prayers and guys,
we definitely lost a good wildcat and the

564
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.000
true guy. Yes, so I'm
definitely headed up to that one, but

565
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:55.280
I definitely wanted to give a shout
out and just say, you know,

566
00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.639
prayer for his family, Thank you, Thank you. Ray, got Buman's

567
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:02.800
happening now, appreciate that. We'll
talk more on the other side. We're

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You've got to Adam with us today. Got about ten minutes. We

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gotta like to call. I really
like talking to Ray because you find out

607
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more and more of what's going on
and just how things work. I'll tell

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you what for the for the chaos
that it looks like from here right from

609
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:14.440
where we sit, yeah, it
looks really every all the nil stuff looks

610
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:19.519
really chaotic. It doesn't seem that
chaotic to hear him talk about it.

611
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:23.480
Right. They're just going They they
stay up on the rules, they pay

612
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:29.039
attention to what's going on? And
then they just do the work and you

613
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:30.920
gotta you gotta give a lot of
credit for that. I was gonna wait

614
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:35.079
for our next time to ask you
this question because we were running late.

615
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.440
But okay, your your dad,
I'm a dad. I'm sure raise a

616
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.199
dad too. So you have a
deep pocket, or even have a medium

617
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:45.280
pocket. Your kids want to go
to Disneyland and you only have a thousand

618
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.199
dollars budget, but you have four
kids, your wife and you. You

619
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:50.559
only have so much money, right, so you have to say, well,

620
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.920
Jimmy, we can't go unless someone
else doesn't go or whatever. So

621
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:58.800
at some point in the budget unless
the reason it's a revolving budget, who

622
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.679
knows that? What about it just
going empty at some point because you have

623
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:08.679
so many kids asking for money,
money, you know what I'm saying.

624
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:12.480
Where let's say you're but you have
four million, or you have four million,

625
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.639
and you have one hundred people on
the roster, and you have important

626
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.079
people you want to get and some
important people you want to keep. That

627
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:24.440
only goes so far. Yeah,
I mean, because even if even if

628
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.480
you have your own means, even
if you've got money, right, you

629
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:34.000
still want money, you know,
if you're good. Well, you know,

630
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.960
let's say, okay, okay,
let's say let's say your Charlie Woods,

631
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.159
right, you're going to college.
Your dad's got all the money in

632
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:45.760
the world. You still want a
college scholarship, and you still want some

633
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:51.159
nil for what you bring in value
to the university that you're playing for.

634
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.159
Let's say he goes to Stanford like
his dad, Right, he's gonna want

635
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.000
to say, he's gonna he's gonna
say, well, I'm not, you

636
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.440
know, you're getting something from me, So I'm not, I mean for

637
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.639
free, even though my dad's got
all the money on the planet. Right,

638
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.360
So then you got to tell the
other kid who doesn't it was like

639
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.039
happy to have a Stafford scholarship.
Well, we got to give Charlie,

640
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.840
Charlie Woods some money, but we
can't give you any even though Charlie Woods,

641
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:19.199
you know, has plenty of money
to to, you know, to

642
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.079
go with. Unless that kid says, you know what, I'm good,

643
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.519
I don't need it, give it
to somebody else for the good of the

644
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.159
team. How often you're gonna run
into that, right? Well, actually

645
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.760
I saw that happen just recently somewhere
last week where where kids were making so

646
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.159
much money that they said, never
mind, I don't need the money.

647
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.679
I'm good because I'm making a lot
of money here. I don't need a

648
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.719
scholarship because I'm making enough money here. I can't remember, I'd have to

649
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:43.920
google it. I'm sure it's very
rare jay like you said, but you

650
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.880
know it's not the norm. That's
certainly not the sure. No, No,

651
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.280
it's it's it's a weird deal on
it. And I couldn't throw any

652
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.199
numbers out like what Baala was supposedly
getting. I mean, because that money

653
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.679
just seems absurd to me, just
so much for one dude, one guy.

654
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.719
In order to find out how much
he's getting, you have to find

655
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.079
out who's getting it from, and
then they have to want to tell you,

656
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.079
right. Well, the funny thing
about it, last week I saw

657
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.400
the commercial that he's on it's a
AC company, and he was still on

658
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.000
the on the old commercial, and
I said, that's weird. He's gone

659
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.119
and we all know he's gone,
and they still run the commercial. I

660
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.559
guess. Just last night I saw
the same same TV show or whatever it

661
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.079
was, and he was no longer
and they said, well, the big

662
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:28.519
guy's gone. Now you have to
get to do what we do. So

663
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.199
they've taken him off the commercial.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, well

664
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.000
we've seen where commercials run after a
shout an event, run after the event

665
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.400
just forget to unplug it because they're
laying off people at the TV station or

666
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.039
whatever. Right, that was a
cheap shot, sorry, which is not

667
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:51.400
myself unbelievable. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, but it's it's a it's

668
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.199
a fascinating thing. You know.
I can't I can't decide if I would

669
00:45:54.239 --> 00:46:00.880
want to be involved in that or
not which part because be it to say,

670
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:05.760
work with Ray Wells and working in
a in a collective, you know,

671
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.920
I don't know. I mean it's
like I don't know. I guess

672
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.760
I would have a hard time to
go fund raising. Give me your hard

673
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:15.480
earned money so I can give it
to this kid. Oh yeah yeah,

674
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.840
no, no sales. It's it's
a difficult and then and then that's your

675
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.280
pitch, and that's your pitch.
I mean, it's one thing when you're

676
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.320
asking for money to build a building
or something like that. You know,

677
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.599
here you can put your name on
this building if you throw in X amount.

678
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.960
But well, we need this quarterback
really bad, so I would like

679
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.079
to see if you can maybe give
us a million or so. You really

680
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.360
love Arizona, right, you graduated
in eighty two, right, you want

681
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:46.239
to see them win? Right,
You don't exactly, So it's it's got

682
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.280
to be I don't know, you
would be unerving to me. But I've

683
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.639
never been. I've never been an
asked for money kind of guy, even

684
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.119
though I've worked on a million boards
and things like that in the past.

685
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.760
And but see when you're raising money
for that, you're raising money for a

686
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:00.599
good cost Say it's a good costs. You know, here's many for kids

687
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.880
or whatever. When you're saying I
got to give this kid some money so

688
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:06.800
that he can, you know,
take his girl out on a date,

689
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:13.239
reistically, it's not about that.
It's some days keeping here, keeping it

690
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.800
here, right right, right?
You know he needs a really nice car,

691
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.559
so it would love for you to
give us some money so he can

692
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.519
do that, right Or since uh, you have cars in that lot over

693
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:29.559
there, couldn't you just sign given
Yeah? Yeah, By the way,

694
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:34.320
there's insurance to be paid, so
get ahold of an insuranceation. Yeah,

695
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.239
exactly, exactly. I don't know, man, I don't know. But

696
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.440
it's a crazy it's the craziness of
all this. And again again it all

697
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.320
goes back to the fact that they
let it get away from him. They

698
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:49.400
didn't make any rules that were that
could be supported by the law. Right,

699
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.159
And now it's it's just this this
chaos out there, and that's I

700
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:58.920
keep calling it that because that's what
it is. It's total chaos, right,

701
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:04.000
right, And the cass is now
going to get curtailed until at least

702
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.800
another while some more can the courts
finish it. I guess I saw an

703
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:12.320
article that you know this this this
lawsuit where where the athletes are trying to

704
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.960
get back pay. Right, it's
supposedly in the billions of dollars. You've

705
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.599
heard about this lawsuit. No,
no, no, I don't know how

706
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:22.960
far back. Oh yeah, there's
this lawsuit out there where you've got somebody

707
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:28.159
sooning and saying they want back pay
for all these athletes and it's in the

708
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:32.400
billions. And I guess I read
something today that said that that if that

709
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:37.920
were to come to fruition, that
the NC double A would have to cough

710
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:42.039
up the billions of dollars for that
because the schools don't have it. Sure,

711
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.159
but that they say the NC Double
A does have it, you know,

712
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.719
with all the money they bring in
from you know, the NCAA basketball

713
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.760
tournament and whatnot. But yeah,
no, Steve, there's a there's a

714
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.519
lawsuit out there demanding back pay for
these athletes. How they would determine who

715
00:48:55.519 --> 00:49:00.280
gets what and how much I don't
know, but a lot that A lot

716
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:05.360
of people think they're gonna win.
Wow, it sounds like they could because

717
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.360
they were. They're winning well as
you would get you in and at least

718
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:12.079
would say they have winning everything.
They have momentum inies. You don't know.

719
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.639
They're about to They're about to run
rule the n C Double A,

720
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.360
Yeah they really are. N C
Double A will cease to exist after a

721
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.239
little while. But you know what
I was thinking to over the last few

722
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:27.960
days, obviously with the with the
protest going on a campus uh in Columbia

723
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.400
u CLA, blah blah blah,
and they're talking about the schools having to

724
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.599
pay for security and clean up and
all that. Arizona has to deal with

725
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.119
that too. Right, here's a
school that's already indebted to a lot of

726
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:43.320
things. Here's some more piling on. There's more stuff that you didn't expect.

727
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.639
Right, that wasn't in the budget. That was not in the budget.

728
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:51.840
No, no, they don't.
I don't think they put protest expenses

729
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.719
in the budget. JR. Ce
Junior. This is why we cannot go

730
00:49:54.760 --> 00:50:00.079
to Disneyland, go to the like. It's like you're yeah, you wreck

731
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.039
the car and I did not put
the I did not put the deductible in

732
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.840
the bank. So that swimming pool, we have a crosses the public swimming

733
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:14.800
pool. That's where we're going to
the summer. So here we are.

734
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.360
Okay, So we got about two
minutes. We can't take any calls.

735
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.800
It's too late now. And we
have a lot of breaking news, right

736
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.840
because I know that mister pro guy
here will talk about things that. Yeah,

737
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:29.039
we got some NBA playoffs stuff coming, don't we We have some playoffs,

738
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.159
We have some u A stuff involved
in the NBA, A lot of

739
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:36.960
things going on football. How How
about I don't know if this is going

740
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.480
to be breaking, but how about
TJ McConnell last night? Oh he was

741
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:43.360
fantastic, really good. He went
off. Yeah, he went off.

742
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.760
In fact, somebody who knows I
follow him, you know the former guys.

743
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.400
He says, wow, he TJ
is pretty goodness as well. He's

744
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:55.000
probably the second best guard since Biby
if not, Yeah, he's the best

745
00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:00.039
guard since Baby Baby. Yeah.
Yeah, I would say he's the best

746
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:04.559
point guards and Didny it's certainly the
one that did most for the team.

747
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.760
Now you look at him and you
think, yeah, well, you know,

748
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.920
from a talent standpoint and all that, but in terms of the way

749
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:14.440
the team was run by the point
guard, sure, yeah, well,

750
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.760
I don't know how you believed or
what you believed. When Sean, when

751
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.079
he was coming out of school,
when TJ was coming, he says,

752
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:21.960
Oh, he's just gonna make the
team. He's gonna make a team,

753
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.599
and we're all like, I know, he's got to support his guy.

754
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.400
He's going to be and we're thinking, there's no way. And almost ten

755
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.559
years later, he's he's still going
at a high level. He is.

756
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:36.360
He's one of the best, very
high level. Yeah, I would say,

757
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:37.760
I would say he's one of the
best backup guards in the league.

758
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.679
I mean, if you talk about
Phoenix, they could have absolutely used the

759
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:44.000
guy like him. And don't you
think if you want a point guard,

760
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.360
that's the kind of point guard you
want. Yeah, do it all plays

761
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.159
hard, great defense, makes other
people better, right yeah yeah, Okay,

762
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.039
Jay, we got about forty five
seconds. We'll take the break and

763
00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:00.280
then come BacT with breaking news and
then have your I will be here next hour