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The leaves are falling off the trees. May the forest be with you.

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It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show
with Stacy Hervella me Rick Weis, Stenar

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engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacey, it's time to move Heaven

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and Earth, as I call it, it's plant moving time. Don't feel

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guilty if a plant wasn't in the
right place in the first place, bust

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a move. However, well you
plan, there will always be a plant

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that isn't quite in the right place
in your garden. This is the time

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that we can do something about it. I don't know about you, but

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I love moving plants. It's like
a fresh start. I have no problem

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with it. But I have discovered
that plants definitely do better when they have

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some time to get established, and
so every time you move something it does

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set it back a bit. But
you know, I think it's really important

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that everyone understand that in gardening,
you do not have to get it right

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the first time. If you plant
an oak tree, yes, if you

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plant it sugar maple, yeah,
you're probably not going to transplant those.

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But in terms of shrubs, perennials, even annuals vegetables. You know,

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you don't need to get it right, and a few people do get it

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right. And even if you think
something looks right, well, the person

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who planted it might not think that. They just didn't move it. So,

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you know, and another thing about
moving plants that's so common is that

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most sites tend to become shadier over
time. Trees grow and mature, and

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so you know, what was once
a perfect spot for a lilac because it

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got at least six hours of sun, as your neighbor's tree or whatever grew

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and the and the spot became shadier. Now your lilac's no longer flowering.

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You got to move it, yeah, exactly. And as Sheryl Crow sang

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in her song, a change will
do you good. And in some cases,

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for your plants, a change will
do you good. Now here in

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Michigan where we're broadcasting from, I
was just looking at you know, forecasts

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here over this week overcast with drizzle, temperatures in the fifties. Perfect moving

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plants, right, yep, for
sure. And you know, ideally you

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want to do it when they're dormant
or going dormant. Why because then they

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don't have to worry the plant doesn't
have to worry about supporting all its foliage,

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trying to grow flowers, doing all
of this other stuff. It's in

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full root growth mode. The leaves
are falling anyway, if they haven't already

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fallen off. And so when you
move it at this time of year or

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in a late winter early spring is
also a good time because it's still dormant.

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It just doesn't have to devote its
resources to so much stuff. It

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can just devote it to resources to
growing new roots and recovering from being transplanted

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because the soil is warm, but
the air temperature is getting cold exactly.

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And you know, you can do
some pruning too. Pruning any unruly parts

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of a plant not only promotes plant
health, but also makes it easier to

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move. Some people will pre cut
roots on plants knowing the plant's going to

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be moving, maybe a few months
ahead of time, and the theory there

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is that the roots would develop some
beneficial hair roots. What do you think

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about that? So a lot of
people they call that air pruning. So

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they're trying to make sort of an
air layer or an air barrier around the

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plant and where it is. So
they're kind of getting ready to dig it.

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I mean, I don't think it
hurts. I think that no matter

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what, the plant is still going
to have to recover from being moved.

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And yes, well that will to
some extent perhaps cause the plant to branch

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within the root ball. You know
that since you've severed it from the from

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the outside, it's not a bad
idea. But not doing it wouldn't stop

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me from moving something. Now,
if you're going to be moving some larger

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plant, obviously smaller plants are easier
to move larger or more established plants.

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You want to take as much of
the root ball along as possible to a

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void transplant shock. And I found
that having a good tarp a tarp is

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your friend. I like the slide
method where I can just kind of roll

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it on to the tarp and then
drag that tarp to the new location,

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which if you're smart, you have
prepared that new location before digging up and

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moving the plant to its new location. Definitely, and that is so important

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for people who have soil like we
do out here on the lake shore where

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it is so sandy, you couldn't
really get a root ball to save your

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life. And at least in my
soil, I don't know about yours.

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It's so sandy. So yeah,
some soil does cling to the roots,

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but it's certainly not like if you've
ever purchased like a bald and burlapped tree

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or shrub where you've got that nice
compacted clay rupbel Now our friends who have

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clay soil are thinking, oh my
gosh, transplanting is a total nightmare because

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I'm digging up a five hundred pound
root ball because of all the soil clinging

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to it, whereas we can't really
quite get any But I do absolutely one

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hundred percent agree with you on preparing
the new spot as closely as possible.

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Of course, you don't know exactly
how big the root all is going to

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be when you dig it, but
you have to try. Your goal is

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to minimize the amount of time that
the plant spends out of the ground.

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Because you talked about hair roots,
and hair roots can mean like the very

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fine roots that you can see.
But it also roots do have literal hair,

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not literal hairs like hair on your
head, but hairs on them,

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and those hairs are so so crucial
to absorbing water, to absorbing taking up

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nutrients from the soil and the longer
those are exposed to air and light,

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the more of them are going to
die and again cause the plant to have

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to work harder to recover from the
transplanting. So whatever you can do to

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minimize the amount of time that that
root all sees the sun, the better.

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Fantastic. Yeah, microscopic, yeah, hair roots. As we sit

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here talking about moving, I can't
help it. A dad joke comes to

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mind. What did the artists say
to his vehicle that would not move?

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I give up, van go Okay, I lead into my limerick here.

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I know it's so bad, but
I love dad jokes. I can't help

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it. Okay. So my limerick
on moving plants a new location would behoove

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this shrub that I need to move
it's out of control. Twigging means I

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will be digging. I just hope
it will approve. I'll move to a

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location that suits and show off it's
at tributes. I'll dig, tug,

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cajole and it's feelings console while I
try to remember the roots. I mean,

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try and take as much of that
rootball with you when you're as you

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can. And you know, I
think in terms of doing that, it's

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helpful to think about how far those
really go around the plant, and it

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is much wider than you might think. Now, there is a point,

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of course, where you can't be
disturbing other plants that you're leaving in place,

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and you know, the reality of
the plant that you have to move

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sometimes doesn't allow you to go there. But I would say try to start

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a little further out from the plant
than your initial instinct might be. And

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if it turns out that you know, there aren't any roots there and the

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soil is just you know, falling
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you can go a little bit closer. Yeah, yeah, good point.

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Good point. Now, of course, if you're moving plants because you're moving

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to a new home, here are
a few things to think about. Because

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you can't take all the plants with
you. That has always bothered me when

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I've moved. You can't take them
all with you, and they're your babies.

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So move hard to find rare plants. Move plants would sentimental value,

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and uh, move a few plants
that make your garden feel like home.

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Yeah, that's a really good thing, because I think everyone does have the

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plants that they're just theirs, you
know, they planted one time on a

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whim and it's just they've come to
life it and that really does make you

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feel like you have that continuity with
you know, your older garden. But

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you know, speaking of transplanting for
moving, I moved in July and I

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had to just dig everything up and
hope for the best and it worked out

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okay, okay, But you know, again a lot of times we were

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talking about this here in late October, where it is an ideal time to

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move, but sometimes you know what, you just got to do what you

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got to do and help for the
best. And that's that's gardening. Because

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we garden in the real world as
horticulturists. We try to give people best

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case advice or you know, here's
the best practice, but ultimately life sometimes

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is not about best practice. Is
so doing what you need to do at

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the time. It's true, and
of course, yes, autumn and spring

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are probably your best time to move
plants. Of course, with perennials,

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it's easy and you can get two
for the price of one. There can

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be some division as you do it, divide and conquer. Of course,

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you don't want to move a perennial
when it's in flowers. So in the

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door. Government season is probably the
best time to do it. Vines.

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You would cut those back really hard
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to move them to a new position, and they obviously will recover from that,

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they'll do what they do. And
then finally, Stacy, there are

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some plants that simply do not like
to move. You can move pa Andis

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and I've successfully moved P and E's, but arguably they really don't like to

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move. Or Magnolia's or yuccas.
Good luck, I've moved yuccas before,

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but you know, you do have
a good Yuckas have like a long kind

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of taproot, and anything that has
that long tap root is going to be

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harder to move. But what I've
also found when I've heard that advice like,

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oh, this doesn't like to be
moved, it's not that you can't

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do it successfully. It's that it
takes it so long to recover from having

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been moved, that it might just
be worth starting with a new plant rather

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than waiting, you know, the
three to five years for it to finally

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get over the stress of move.
Because it is stress even if you minimize

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it. You know, it is
stressful for the plant. Stressful, but

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sometimes you got to move. I
heard a motivational speaker said, if you

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don't like where you are, move
you are not a tree. I guess

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he makes a good point there.
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Greeting's Gardening friends, and welcome back
to the Gardening Simplified Show. At

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this point in the show, we
put one of the proven Winner's Color Choice

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shrubs on trial, which means we're
going to tell you about it and you

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get to decide if you're going to
add it to your landscape or not your

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garden, whatever you call it.
And you know, I always try to

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tie into whatever the theme of the
show is, and today I picked a

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rose. I picked oh so easy
Italian ice rose. And one of the

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reasons that I picked it is I
wanted to kind of address the ease of

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transplanting because we get so so many
questions at prove Owner's Color Choice Shrubs Abot.

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I planted this, you know,
Like I was saying in the previous

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segment, a lot of places get
shadier over time and people people need to

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move them or they and this is
common and I am just as guilty of

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this as anyone else. You buy
a plant, it's a cute little one

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gallon and you look at the tag
and you're like fifteen feet. I don't

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think so, and then a couple
of years go by, and then next

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thing you know, it is indeed
fifteen feet and you have to move it

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well, hopefully before it gets to
be quite That's all. So I think

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that especially shrubs and most perennials are
easier to move than most people think,

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at least in terms of the root
mass. Right Like, you aren't going

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to need an excavator, you're not
going to need a bacco. You will

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be able to successfully move most trubs
that are even reasonably mature. And that's

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true of roses. Roses are from
a root standpoint, very easy to move.

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From a physical ability standpoint, things
could get a little bit trickier.

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So I am going to get into
some tips on transplanting roses But first I'm

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want to kind of paint the picture
of oh So easy italianized rose and tell

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you why I picked this out of
all of the many, many roses in

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the proven Winter's color choice line as
today's plant on trial. And you've heard

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a say before that roses really have
a second wind or a second summer in

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windfall comes around. The longer nights, the cooler temperatures just completely change the

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color of roses. It's amazing.
I have oh So easy roses. And

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as you get into November, that's
a good way of putting it. Second

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wind. Yeah, even as late
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a severe frost yet, they will
continue to open. Buzz. Now,

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they probably won't be setting any new
buds, but any buds that they did

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set over October, and we've had
a warmer than typical October here in West

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Michigan, any of those buds they
set, they'll continue to open. I

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mean, I have seen roses absolutely
coated with frost and plants still just like

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eh whatever. So o sweezy Italian
ice rose is sort of like the color

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coloration is similar to one of the
most famous roses of all time, and

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that is peace the piece rose,
so it kind of has like a creamy

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yellow center and that sort of graduates
out to orange and then finally pink at

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the tips of the petals and oh
sweezy Italian ice. Rose is absolutely beautiful

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when it blooms in summer, but
the color that it takes on when it

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blooms in fall is really just something
that you have to see. And it's

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not that it's like, you know, gaudy, but it's just so much

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writer and you know, with the
moody fall light and everything, it's just

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sort of shining out in the landscape. And I have found that particularly,

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I think the pinks on Oh So
Easy Italian Ice are what really gets you

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know, the volume just gets turned
up and you know, it's it's just

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like a totally different experience. And
that's one of the things I love so

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much. And I think I talk
about this a lot on the show when

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I'm talking about plants. I love
plants that have these changes. I love

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something that's a little bit unpredictable and
that you know, you're not just like,

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Okay, well, yeah that rose
is beautiful, but it looks the

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exact same as it did a month
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want something to, you know,
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oh so easy Italian ice rose is
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that's why people love fall color.
It's just all the changes and the change,

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and it's vibrant. And when you
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add to that vibrancy. Wow.
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those pinks in orange and yellow.
You know, they're not the as they're

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a little bit more on the pestel
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you're seeing in the landscape, but
they just somehow feel right at home in

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the autumn landscape. Now it's about
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row, so it's a shrub rose, a landscape rose, as we call

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it. And basically what that means
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It's not going to be sort of
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a hybrid t. It's going to
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a half foot by two and a
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of course, as all the rest
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very disease resistant, and when we're
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roses through for the proven Winner's color
choice line. What we do is we

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start in our greenhouse trialing plants and
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close together. These are real plants
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the show. All the plants are
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we don't spray anything, and we're
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take its course and do a natural
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is going to get powdery meldew or
black spot will automatically take out of the

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trial. Sure, you know.
So just let's see what happens under the

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worst possible conditions, and then if
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start moving them on and evaluating other
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landscape, how do the flowers look. So it's important to us, especially

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for the OsO Easy series, that
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and that means they're not likely to
get black spot, they're not likely to

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get powdery meldy, which of course
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roses, and they don't need dead
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look for is you know, traditionally
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to be out there cutting the old
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flower. And that's not the case
with the osoeasy roses well. And the

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bonus when we move at this time
of the year, also a stacey is

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the winter heartiness of these plants.
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great point because most, not all
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usdas on three or four, so
quite quite hearty, and so you don't

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really have to worry about moving that
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on their own roots, So if
you're familiar with older roses that might have

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been grafted and have a different route
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Oh So Easy. They are all
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they will easily be able to stand
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now is a great time to transplant
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it's late October, they're going to
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growing conditions for their roots to recover. And roses are definitely one of those

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plants that as we as they go
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energy into their root system and you
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that, get that good root system. The rest of the plant is dormant

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so that when spring does come,
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problem. If you're keeping score at
home, Stacy's talking about oh so easy

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Italian ice rose, all of the
oh so easy roses, Stacy, I

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love. I am moving some in
my landscaping right now. I don't like

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moving roses. I'm hoping maybe you
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I don't have a magical formula.
I don't have a magical trick,

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but I do have some suggestions.
Now I have to ask you, are

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you moving these into your new deer
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secure safe. You know it's so
wild that roses are so thorny and so

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favored by deer. There's so many
other plants like barbary the deer won't touch

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because they have thorns, whereas roses
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And people are so surprised when they're
like, well, I was covered

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in thorns. Why would a deer
eat this and not only do they eat

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it, they devour it. Yeah
taste. I've heard from a rosarian that

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they are naturally very high in vitamin
C, so that the deer almost eat

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them as like a compulsion, like
they can't resist this like super nutritious plant

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that's in front of them. But
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that does make them a little bit
tricky to move. But I do have

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a couple tips that will make it
hopefully a little bit easier, okay,

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or at least well, it's always
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rose gauntlet, you know, rose
gauntlets are are gloves for working with roses

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that usually go up to your elbow
or higher. And they're not just tougher

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or more durable. They really are
much more protective. And the nice thing

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I like about rose gauntlets is that
they typically have a lot more flexibility in

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the fingers, because you need to
have good flexibility for pruning roses. Working

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around roses. You can't just have
like that stiff, heavy leather glove that

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would be protective against the thorns but
not actually let you, you know,

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fuck your fingers in and weeding.
Oh oh that's a rough one. Yeah,

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no sweaters, nothing that those rose
thorns are gonna snag on at your smoothest,

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like raincoat, although those can also
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then get yourself some rope and make
a loop. You're like a double it

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down, so you have a loop
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around your plant and put the free
end through that loop and sinch it so

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that you're kind of drawing it up
into like a ponytail. And then go

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ahead and wrap it again and give
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nice long piece of rope. Don't
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It's going to get caught and drive
you crazy. But like a good twine

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or something like that. So for
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your roses before you move them.
Oh really yeah, because you want to

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have more to work with, you
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on them. This is basically what
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suggesting here. Lasso up your rose. Hopefully you've already got that hole prepared,

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go ahead and transplant. Keep it
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and then you can unleash your lasso. Don't try it untie it, just

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get a knife and make quick work
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go ahead. And if it's fall, you probably want to save your punting

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until spring. But if you were
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when you would want to go ahead
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the season, and it should go
on without missing a beat, and you

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should hopefully only have a few scratches
to show for your ordeal awesome rose to

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the occasion, So listen. We're
going to put pictures oh so easy Italian

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ice rose on our website, on
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question. And what do we got
in the mailbag today? Rick Well Stacey

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Jim sends us a juicy question.
I have chestnut trees I planted ten years

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ago. This year, I'm getting
nut production on three of them, but

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they're not what I expected. They're
all singular nuts that look more like big

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spiny acorns than the expected birds.
The leaves look like chestnut, but not

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the nuts. Are these just immature
trees? Pictures are attached? What do

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I have? Oh? Geez,
well, I think this is an important

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question, and I do tell people
when I respond to them with their gardening

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questions. Often, I hate to
be the bearer of bad news, and

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I really do, I really do, but I do try to break it

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gently. So, Jim, I
hate to be the bear of bad news.

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But those pictures you sent are not
chestnuts, and we will put those

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pictures, of course, on the
website Gardening Simplied dot com. If you

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watch the YouTube version, you will
be seeing those as well. Jim,

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what you have, or at least
the pictures that you sent are of sawtooth

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oak Quercus acutissima. So the foliage
does look identical, pretty much identical in

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fact, if I I'm not super
familiar with chestnuts, because unfortunately, our

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beautiful native American chestnut did go extinct
nearly it's working on coming back, but

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the Chinese chestnut is the primarily primary
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looks almost identical to the Chinese chestnut, and therefore it's possible that there was

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a mix up at the nursery and
you know that the plants were just I

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don't know where you ordered these from
or where you got them. Quercus acutissima.

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The saw tooth oak is not native
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to Asia, so probably not dug
out of the woods or anything like that.

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But so it's possible it was just
an innocent mix up at the nursery

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because again the foliage looks so similar, or it's possible that there was just

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a miscommunication, and this often happens
in it This would not be the first

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time I've seen it happen. It's
so important to try to use botanical names,

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even if you see yourself as a
complete lay person. I'm not a

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professional horticulturist. I'm not a botanist. Why would I need to know the

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botanical names. It's so worth looking
up the botanical names of the plants that

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you want to make sure they are
consistent because one of the beauty of scientific

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names is that they are the same
all around the world. So if you

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were to go to an arboretum in
another country, they might put the common

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name in their language and you might
not know what it means at all.

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But if you're recognizing that scientific name
on the tag or whatever it is,

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you know what it is because that
is universal. That's what Carl and Naas

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intended all along, and it's important
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definitely is, especially when like Jim, you have ten years into the plant.

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So the good news is that the
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The squirrels are gonna love it.
If not, we will not have

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chestnuts versting on an open fire.
I fear, at least not from these.

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Now. It's possible, since you
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that are actually showing these these seed
the acorns, maybe there was a mix

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up and the other ones are actually
chestnut. It's it's really hard to say.

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There could be any number of reasons
why some are more mature than others.

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But just to before we let you
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do want to make another case for
learning your scientific names, because okay,

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you have Quercus acutisimak, known as
it's not toooth oak. You thought you

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were getting the Chinese chestnut Castania molus. There is a North American native oak

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called the chestnut oak that does not
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and that is Quirkus montana. So
this is all very confusing. I know

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we're gonna put it in the show
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But again This is why it's so
important to do your research. Find

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out that scientific name, and then
search by that if you're looking online,

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if you're going to the garden center, any good plant company, their tags

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should have the scientific name on there, since you're sure of what you're buying.

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So, Jim, I'm sorry they're
not chestnuts, but you do have

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beautiful acorns, beautiful oak trees,
and like I said, the squirrels will

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at least be grateful. Keep us
posted on those other ones though, as

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they hopefully start to flower and bear. Fruit and chestnut flowers are actually much

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more showy than oak flowers. They're
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summer, very very fragrant, so
you might no sooner and not just have

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to wait until you see the seeds. Remember that one hit wonder song by

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Thomas Dolby, blinded by Science.
Yeah, she blinded me with science.

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Che blind. Yeah, that's kind
of how I feel. Sorry, I'm

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really sorry, Jim, I am
sorry too. It's fascinating. Okay,

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Nicole, a few questions about over
wintering plants and containers. Thanks for your

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question, Nicole. She has a
couple questions about over wintering in isles.

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Kranata patio box. Japanese holly was
given to her by one of her professors.

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Planted it in a large planter.
She's wondering the best way to protect

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it through winter while it's still trying
to be established. Also started some lavender

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and gustafolia from seed the spring.
It's in a smaller planter. I'm wondering

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the best way to over winter bring
it indoors? Right, So no I

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am. I am very opposed to
bringing hardy plants indoors for now. I

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did have someone write me the other
day and she was like, well,

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you can I have over winter perennial
or tropical hibiscus, and this, that

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and the other. The warmer climate
your plant is native to, the more

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success you're going to have overwintering indoors. If the planet is hardy, that

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is would normally be able to survive
outdoors in your area, it's really really

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going to struggle if you bring it
indoors. So Nicole. In both cases,

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I do recommend that you keep them
outdoors. The challenge here is the

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challenge is going to be keeping the
Japanese holly, which is a broad leaf

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evergreen, wet enough and keeping the
lavender dry enough so the lavender cannot deal

405
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.759
with winter wetness, so to over
winter the lavender successfully, which, by

406
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.799
the way, great job starting that
from seed. Lavender seeds are like the

407
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:22.000
size of dust, so not the
easiest thing to grow from seed. I

408
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.359
would put that in a very shallow
planter, so you're not having a lot

409
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.880
of soil underneath, just holding onto
water. And one of the issues that

410
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.000
happened so often with plants and containers
in winter is that you get this ice

411
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.720
cube developing. The mass freezes and
as it starts to thought thoughts from the

412
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outside in, so you end up
with this big ice cube in the center

413
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.880
that's going to take a lot longer
to thaw than the edges were. And

414
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.200
with a lavender, you're getting those
rains and just the soil staying really moist

415
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.039
and not draining. That is going
to cause that lavender to rot. Now,

416
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.039
the opposite issue is kind of true
for the Japanese holly. What's going

417
00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:00.480
to happen. It's an evergreen,
so those leaves are just losing water season

418
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.759
long through winter, sun, winter
wind. But if the ground is frozen

419
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.519
or the soil, if the ground's
frozen, it can't take up any water

420
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.920
to replace that. If the ground
is not frozen but the soil is too

421
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.160
dry, it has no water to
take up to replace that and it will

422
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:18.279
end up desiccating. So in this
case, I would say try to keep

423
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.839
it out of the sun and wind
if you can. It still needs the

424
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.000
exposure to fresh air and to light, but you just don't want to have

425
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.480
it in the bright direct sun where
that is really really just beating down on

426
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.680
it and taking away that water.
Yeah, with the holly, my opinion

427
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.759
is the root should be below ground
level so you heal it in and if

428
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.599
you have a spot on the north
side of the house structural shade protected from

429
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:42.200
wind and sun like you mentioned Stacy, I think you can do fine.

430
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.039
Yep, and malchmulch will be good
on the holly, but don't put it

431
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.559
on the lavender. So we'll digest
that all in the show notes for you

432
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.079
if you have any follow up questions. Roger asks, I've been out of

433
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.920
the country, not able to deadhead
my roses now then I'm back Zone seven

434
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:03.599
A. The roses have hips as
lar ping pong balls. Is it too

435
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.160
late to deadhead now? Get more
blooms before winter? Should I leave the

436
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.880
hips. So rose hips are something
that I think only rosarians really knew about

437
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:18.240
before. But since these disease resistant, non stop blooming landscape roses have come

438
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.599
on to the market that don't need
dead heading to continue to bloom, people

439
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.400
are seeing the hips or berries or
seed pods of roses a lot more than

440
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.039
they used to it. And I
love rose hips the beauty. I love

441
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.680
them too. They're super beneficial for
wildlife, and in the case of landscape

442
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.680
roses specifically so shrub roses like what
we talked about earlier Oh So Easy italian

443
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.240
Ie, the rest of the Oh
So Easy series, it does not stop

444
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.119
them from continuing to bloom. Now, there are roses that need to be

445
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.240
dead headed or have those snipped off
to continue to bloom, but most roses

446
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.000
not a problem, and at this
point in the season, I would not

447
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.279
snip them off. I would just
let them. They contribute great winter color,

448
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:02.279
so they can be anywhere from orange
to bright red, so really attractive

449
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.119
in the landscape, and if the
birds haven't already eaten them, they certainly

450
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.599
will by the time they get softened
by a couple of freeze thaws a little

451
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.359
bit later in the season. So
no sweat roger. You're probably already seeing

452
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:18.279
more flowers forming, and you're making
the birds happy as well. I agree.

453
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.400
And rose hips as big as ping
pong. You know what ping pong

454
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:27.640
is. Ping pong is ten percent
hitting the ball, ninety percent running around

455
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.680
the room trying to retrieve the ball. Yeah, that's for sure. Crawling

456
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.400
under the couch. Where did that
thing go? That's ping pong. Yeah,

457
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.759
I'm a terrible ping pong player.
I just say that right now,

458
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.039
as my husband unfortunately knows. So
anyway, thank you all so much for

459
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.759
your questions. You can find all
of the notes at Gardeningsimplified on air dot

460
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.400
com, where you can also send
us your question if you have one.

461
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.359
We're going to take a little break. Branching news is coming up next,

462
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garden center. Okay, my friends, it's time for Branching News and Stacey.

467
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.720
Of course, we love fall foliage
and October going into November. What

468
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:34.359
I find fascinating is images from space
that show you the color in the Northeast.

469
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.720
It's pretty fascinating to look at well, yeah, to look at that,

470
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.400
And we're going to put a link
on our website, Gardening Simplified on

471
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:47.279
air dot Com. A study from
Appalachian State University estimated the annual event of

472
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:53.680
fall color results in about thirty billion
dollars and economic impact in the classic sight

473
00:32:53.920 --> 00:33:00.559
seeing areas like Vermont, according to
experts at the US Forest Service. Of

474
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:06.000
course, a combination of warm sunny
days cool crisp nights can help enhance the

475
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:10.519
most vivid colors visible from space.
Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, it

476
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:16.319
is pretty cool. Going to the
West coast, a gargantuan Western red cedar

477
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:21.839
tree, standing one hundred and fifty
one feet tall and seventeen and a half

478
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.400
feet in diameter, has been discovered. Flora's Island, so that is,

479
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:32.359
northwest of Seattle and west of Vancouver, has one of the largest contiguous areas

480
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:38.680
of old growth forest left on Vancouver
Island. This gentleman was walking along and

481
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:44.680
spotted this tree believed to be more
than a thousand years old, the find

482
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:50.839
of a lifetime, one of the
largest old growth seeds ever documented in British

483
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.559
Columbia. Pretty cool. That's marveled
and the pictures are amazing too. Them.

484
00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:00.720
We're going to put the link on
the on the website. When you

485
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.839
come across something like that and that
area too, when you look at the

486
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:10.239
western red seedars and all the old
growth seeds in that area, it takes

487
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.519
your breath away. You know,
it's and it's so wild to think about

488
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:20.800
a tree just being discovered. But
I know when I was in California earlier

489
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.440
this summer in the giant redwoods,
you know, they are still regularly discovering

490
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:30.599
giant redwoods that out that are bigger
than they thought. And you know,

491
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.360
it really is just about the right
person coming around at the right time and

492
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.960
knowing what they're seeing, because other
people might have hiked that area and just

493
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.320
said, WHOA, that's a big
tree and moved on. And you know,

494
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.440
it's so it's like you you could
be that person who really realizes what

495
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.960
you have and make a new record. Yeah, and it's important and it's

496
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:55.159
important that it's recorded in that we
celebrate these trees. Their survivors is what

497
00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:00.639
they are, which brings on a
dad joke. So this skinny the little

498
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.159
guy walks into a lagger's office says, I want a job. The guy

499
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.480
says, you don't look like a
lagger. He says, try me.

500
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.760
So he hands them an axe,
says there's a large cedar tree out back.

501
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:13.960
Let's see how you do. Comes
back. Two minutes later, the

502
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.239
tree is cut down. The logger
says, no way, two minutes.

503
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.840
My best laggers could not do that. Where'd you get your training with an

504
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.320
ax? The guy says, I
got my training in the Sahara forest.

505
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:29.519
The guy says, don't you mean
Sahara desert. He says, well that's

506
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:35.119
what they call it now, bad
joke. Let's move along. Let's move

507
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.800
to something sad. Oh this time
of year, bird strikes on glass.

508
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.280
Oh gosh, yeah awful. Then
they drive you crazy when you see that.

509
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.199
It does. And you know I
because they're migrating. The birds are

510
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:50.000
just their their brains are I don't
I can't describe it. Their brains are

511
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.519
someone else. So I have two
deer exclosures where I grow my vegetables,

512
00:35:53.559 --> 00:36:00.719
and they're just PVC cages that we
wrap with with windowscreen, and it works

513
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.760
perfectly well to keep the deer out. But the other day I walked out

514
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.519
to the garden. It was a
sunny day, and I watched bam,

515
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.159
bam, two deers in a row
or two birds in a row fly directly

516
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.039
into that screening. Now, they
bounced right back and they were fine because

517
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.519
it was just screen. But I
was like, how these things have been

518
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:22.039
here for months at this point.
Unfortunately, they were okay, But yeah,

519
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.480
when it's glass or something hard,
it can be quite traumatic. And

520
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:30.519
this story really hits home, no
pun intended. At least a thousand birds

521
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:35.320
died from colliding with one Chicago building
in one day, so they kept track

522
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.599
many of us. I know,
I've been there many times. McCormick Place

523
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:44.119
is the largest convention center in North
America and it's primarily covered in glass,

524
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:49.719
so it's a lethal obstacle for birds. October fifth of this year, they

525
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:55.119
did the count within one point five
miles of McCormick Place. At least one

526
00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:01.679
thousand birds died, others injured,
and they kept track. So anywhere you've

527
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:07.000
got glass, you're going to have
birds hitting the windows, especially during migration

528
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.760
season, and this article was quite
interesting and we're going to post it on

529
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.000
the website. It explained that when
you have glass in a building, these

530
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:22.320
strikes for birds during the day generally
occur at the lower level, especially if

531
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:27.119
you have plants and shrubbery inside.
At night, of course, they become

532
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.199
disoriented by the lights and crash into
the glass. And so there's a lot

533
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:37.639
of work being done by people who
are trying to maybe anticipate these problems and

534
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:43.519
get some of these buildings to turn
off the lights in larger buildings. Will

535
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.280
put a link there also the work
that they're doing in New York where they

536
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:51.800
want to flip the switch on some
of these commercial buildings to reduce the number

537
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.840
of these bird strikes. Yeah,
I have seen some bad bird strikes in

538
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:59.079
my time, and it's always a
heartbreak. Yeah, it is because it's

539
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.599
not usually you know, the sparrows
or grackles or some they're not grackles,

540
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.159
but starling's something that you know,
maybe could use a little reduction in the

541
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.519
population. It's always something really unique
and beautiful. So it's a real tragedy.

542
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:16.679
So something to keep on our radar, something that's being exposed by the

543
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:23.480
ubiquity of social media disturbing and frustrating
at the same time as bad behavior at

544
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:29.159
national parks. Oof. Yeah,
it has been bad. And I saw

545
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:34.039
something in social media it sparked outrage. Recently, there was a lady standing

546
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.760
right next to a prone bison on
the side of the road, and a

547
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:44.280
few others swarmed mere feet away,
snapping pictures with their phones, and right

548
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:49.920
there was a sign two foot away
that warns people of the danger not to

549
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.719
get close to these animals. As
a matter of fact, in this case,

550
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.039
I guess there was a ranger that
was yelling at her, saying move

551
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.239
away, because this bison has had
charged people before. She was standing right

552
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.559
next to this thing. Anything for
the perfect selfie, I guess, Oh

553
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.639
my word, I tell you what
now. Of course, bison, I

554
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:13.719
guess, have large humps at their
shoulders and a bigger head and a beard

555
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:20.119
compared to a buffalo. And they
can live for a long time too.

556
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.440
Yeah. I don't know about two
hundred years, because that would be a

557
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:28.440
bison tennial, but they do.
I set that one up. Yeah,

558
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:34.559
yeah, But anyhow, an American
bison that works out at the gym is

559
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.239
a buffellow. Two bad jokes for
you there? Should I move on?

560
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.800
You got more? I mean no? Oh, I could come up with

561
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:49.119
more events. Are you going for
quality? Yeah? Quality? Or I

562
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.840
thought Bison tenni oal was pretty good? All right, see you later.

563
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.880
Alligators. A Pennsylvania man opened his
front door to find a large gator stretched

564
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.320
across the threshold a couple of weeks
ago. It led to at least nine

565
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:08.800
other chompers being rescued from a nearby
home. Tony Golarski of Kissky Township told

566
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:14.519
WTAE of the moment he learned about
the alligator that was spotted on his front

567
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:20.000
porch. The reptile five to six
feet long, spotted by a neighbor.

568
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:24.639
Now Gerlaski had just been discharged from
the hospital. The neighbor called and said,

569
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.079
hey, I don't know, but
you better check your back porch there

570
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.280
because there's a five to six foot
alligator there. I guess there was a

571
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:39.599
neighbor of his who had a dirty
backyard pool. The enclosure had broken and

572
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:45.840
the reptiles ran amok. But where
did they come from? He was just

573
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:52.880
bringing them in and according to this
article selling the gators on Craigslist, No,

574
00:40:52.480 --> 00:41:00.599
that's terrible. Sell an alligator.
I know it's terrible. He's been

575
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.320
arrested. And can you imagine opening
up the back door and a six foot

576
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.320
alligator in Pennsylvania of all places.
And I can see it in Florida,

577
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:14.480
but Pennsylvania. No. So the
good news it was watering the plants at

578
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:20.440
the time while it was there because
it was an irrigator. The neighbor in

579
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:27.039
this case was the instigator. And
now the person collecting these alligators will be

580
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:31.079
dealing with a lit a gator.
Okay, that does it for branching news.

581
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.960
That was fun, wasn't it.
Yeah. We want to thank you

582
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.360
for watching and listening to the Gardening
Simplified Show. We do want to remind

583
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:44.719
people who listen to the podcast.
Many people download the podcast on a weekly

584
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.559
basis, and thank you very mulch
for doing that, or listen on radio.

585
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.760
But Stacy, if you want to
check out the show, check it

586
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.920
out on YouTube. Yes, you
get a little bonus content on YouTube.

587
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.840
If we have a guest, you
get the whole addition, not just the

588
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:02.039
radio edit. And of course Rianna
works really hard to put in fun photos

589
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.760
like you will be able to see
Jim's acorns that were supposed to be chestnuts

590
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.920
if you go to YouTube so Yeah
and you can check out our wardrobe changes

591
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.119
week after week. Thank you very
much, Stacey, thank you, Thanks

592
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.360
Adriana. Appreciate everything you do.
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593
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