1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,679 The leaves are falling off the trees. May the forest be with you. 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:12,320 It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella me Rick Weis, Stenar 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,719 engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacey, it's time to move Heaven 4 00:00:17,879 --> 00:00:22,760 and Earth, as I call it, it's plant moving time. Don't feel 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,920 guilty if a plant wasn't in the right place in the first place, bust 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,519 a move. However, well you plan, there will always be a plant 7 00:00:30,559 --> 00:00:36,039 that isn't quite in the right place in your garden. This is the time 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,920 that we can do something about it. I don't know about you, but 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,960 I love moving plants. It's like a fresh start. I have no problem 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:52,600 with it. But I have discovered that plants definitely do better when they have 11 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,039 some time to get established, and so every time you move something it does 12 00:00:57,079 --> 00:01:00,000 set it back a bit. But you know, I think it's really important 13 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:03,640 that everyone understand that in gardening, you do not have to get it right 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,519 the first time. If you plant an oak tree, yes, if you 15 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:10,920 plant it sugar maple, yeah, you're probably not going to transplant those. 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,760 But in terms of shrubs, perennials, even annuals vegetables. You know, 17 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:18,239 you don't need to get it right, and a few people do get it 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,640 right. And even if you think something looks right, well, the person 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,280 who planted it might not think that. They just didn't move it. So, 20 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:27,959 you know, and another thing about moving plants that's so common is that 21 00:01:29,719 --> 00:01:34,000 most sites tend to become shadier over time. Trees grow and mature, and 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,519 so you know, what was once a perfect spot for a lilac because it 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,840 got at least six hours of sun, as your neighbor's tree or whatever grew 24 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:46,640 and the and the spot became shadier. Now your lilac's no longer flowering. 25 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:49,480 You got to move it, yeah, exactly. And as Sheryl Crow sang 26 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:53,400 in her song, a change will do you good. And in some cases, 27 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,319 for your plants, a change will do you good. Now here in 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Michigan where we're broadcasting from, I was just looking at you know, forecasts 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:09,800 here over this week overcast with drizzle, temperatures in the fifties. Perfect moving 30 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,879 plants, right, yep, for sure. And you know, ideally you 31 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,360 want to do it when they're dormant or going dormant. Why because then they 32 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,199 don't have to worry the plant doesn't have to worry about supporting all its foliage, 33 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,319 trying to grow flowers, doing all of this other stuff. It's in 34 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,439 full root growth mode. The leaves are falling anyway, if they haven't already 35 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:32,680 fallen off. And so when you move it at this time of year or 36 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:37,080 in a late winter early spring is also a good time because it's still dormant. 37 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,080 It just doesn't have to devote its resources to so much stuff. It 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:46,560 can just devote it to resources to growing new roots and recovering from being transplanted 39 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:50,280 because the soil is warm, but the air temperature is getting cold exactly. 40 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,560 And you know, you can do some pruning too. Pruning any unruly parts 41 00:02:53,599 --> 00:03:00,039 of a plant not only promotes plant health, but also makes it easier to 42 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,879 move. Some people will pre cut roots on plants knowing the plant's going to 43 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,479 be moving, maybe a few months ahead of time, and the theory there 44 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,080 is that the roots would develop some beneficial hair roots. What do you think 45 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,599 about that? So a lot of people they call that air pruning. So 46 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:21,280 they're trying to make sort of an air layer or an air barrier around the 47 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:23,840 plant and where it is. So they're kind of getting ready to dig it. 48 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,560 I mean, I don't think it hurts. I think that no matter 49 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:31,560 what, the plant is still going to have to recover from being moved. 50 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,479 And yes, well that will to some extent perhaps cause the plant to branch 51 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,879 within the root ball. You know that since you've severed it from the from 52 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,080 the outside, it's not a bad idea. But not doing it wouldn't stop 53 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,120 me from moving something. Now, if you're going to be moving some larger 54 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:53,520 plant, obviously smaller plants are easier to move larger or more established plants. 55 00:03:53,919 --> 00:04:00,039 You want to take as much of the root ball along as possible to a 56 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,639 void transplant shock. And I found that having a good tarp a tarp is 57 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,039 your friend. I like the slide method where I can just kind of roll 58 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,000 it on to the tarp and then drag that tarp to the new location, 59 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,519 which if you're smart, you have prepared that new location before digging up and 60 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,600 moving the plant to its new location. Definitely, and that is so important 61 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,600 for people who have soil like we do out here on the lake shore where 62 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:30,879 it is so sandy, you couldn't really get a root ball to save your 63 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,519 life. And at least in my soil, I don't know about yours. 64 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,279 It's so sandy. So yeah, some soil does cling to the roots, 65 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,160 but it's certainly not like if you've ever purchased like a bald and burlapped tree 66 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,439 or shrub where you've got that nice compacted clay rupbel Now our friends who have 67 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:48,800 clay soil are thinking, oh my gosh, transplanting is a total nightmare because 68 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,519 I'm digging up a five hundred pound root ball because of all the soil clinging 69 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,600 to it, whereas we can't really quite get any But I do absolutely one 70 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,759 hundred percent agree with you on preparing the new spot as closely as possible. 71 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:04,040 Of course, you don't know exactly how big the root all is going to 72 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:09,639 be when you dig it, but you have to try. Your goal is 73 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,360 to minimize the amount of time that the plant spends out of the ground. 74 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:15,879 Because you talked about hair roots, and hair roots can mean like the very 75 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,839 fine roots that you can see. But it also roots do have literal hair, 76 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:24,040 not literal hairs like hair on your head, but hairs on them, 77 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:30,519 and those hairs are so so crucial to absorbing water, to absorbing taking up 78 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,279 nutrients from the soil and the longer those are exposed to air and light, 79 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,040 the more of them are going to die and again cause the plant to have 80 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:43,600 to work harder to recover from the transplanting. So whatever you can do to 81 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,399 minimize the amount of time that that root all sees the sun, the better. 82 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Fantastic. Yeah, microscopic, yeah, hair roots. As we sit 83 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:58,160 here talking about moving, I can't help it. A dad joke comes to 84 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:03,279 mind. What did the artists say to his vehicle that would not move? 85 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,120 I give up, van go Okay, I lead into my limerick here. 86 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,240 I know it's so bad, but I love dad jokes. I can't help 87 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,959 it. Okay. So my limerick on moving plants a new location would behoove 88 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:28,879 this shrub that I need to move it's out of control. Twigging means I 89 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,639 will be digging. I just hope it will approve. I'll move to a 90 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:39,399 location that suits and show off it's at tributes. I'll dig, tug, 91 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:45,839 cajole and it's feelings console while I try to remember the roots. I mean, 92 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,560 try and take as much of that rootball with you when you're as you 93 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,240 can. And you know, I think in terms of doing that, it's 94 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:57,480 helpful to think about how far those really go around the plant, and it 95 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,279 is much wider than you might think. Now, there is a point, 96 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:03,600 of course, where you can't be disturbing other plants that you're leaving in place, 97 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:06,519 and you know, the reality of the plant that you have to move 98 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,639 sometimes doesn't allow you to go there. But I would say try to start 99 00:07:11,839 --> 00:07:15,879 a little further out from the plant than your initial instinct might be. And 100 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,279 if it turns out that you know, there aren't any roots there and the 101 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:20,639 soil is just you know, falling and you're not getting any roots, then 102 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:24,120 you can go a little bit closer. Yeah, yeah, good point. 103 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,399 Good point. Now, of course, if you're moving plants because you're moving 104 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:30,199 to a new home, here are a few things to think about. Because 105 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:34,120 you can't take all the plants with you. That has always bothered me when 106 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,360 I've moved. You can't take them all with you, and they're your babies. 107 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:44,800 So move hard to find rare plants. Move plants would sentimental value, 108 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,040 and uh, move a few plants that make your garden feel like home. 109 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,439 Yeah, that's a really good thing, because I think everyone does have the 110 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,279 plants that they're just theirs, you know, they planted one time on a 111 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:01,399 whim and it's just they've come to life it and that really does make you 112 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,959 feel like you have that continuity with you know, your older garden. But 113 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,439 you know, speaking of transplanting for moving, I moved in July and I 114 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,399 had to just dig everything up and hope for the best and it worked out 115 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:16,319 okay, okay, But you know, again a lot of times we were 116 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,879 talking about this here in late October, where it is an ideal time to 117 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:24,240 move, but sometimes you know what, you just got to do what you 118 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:26,000 got to do and help for the best. And that's that's gardening. Because 119 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,279 we garden in the real world as horticulturists. We try to give people best 120 00:08:31,319 --> 00:08:37,120 case advice or you know, here's the best practice, but ultimately life sometimes 121 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:39,480 is not about best practice. Is so doing what you need to do at 122 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:43,320 the time. It's true, and of course, yes, autumn and spring 123 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:48,679 are probably your best time to move plants. Of course, with perennials, 124 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:50,960 it's easy and you can get two for the price of one. There can 125 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,399 be some division as you do it, divide and conquer. Of course, 126 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:58,720 you don't want to move a perennial when it's in flowers. So in the 127 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:03,360 door. Government season is probably the best time to do it. Vines. 128 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,679 You would cut those back really hard before you dig them out of the ground 129 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,159 to move them to a new position, and they obviously will recover from that, 130 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,840 they'll do what they do. And then finally, Stacy, there are 131 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:18,600 some plants that simply do not like to move. You can move pa Andis 132 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,960 and I've successfully moved P and E's, but arguably they really don't like to 133 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,559 move. Or Magnolia's or yuccas. Good luck, I've moved yuccas before, 134 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,840 but you know, you do have a good Yuckas have like a long kind 135 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:35,600 of taproot, and anything that has that long tap root is going to be 136 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:41,080 harder to move. But what I've also found when I've heard that advice like, 137 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,440 oh, this doesn't like to be moved, it's not that you can't 138 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,120 do it successfully. It's that it takes it so long to recover from having 139 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:54,240 been moved, that it might just be worth starting with a new plant rather 140 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,879 than waiting, you know, the three to five years for it to finally 141 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,759 get over the stress of move. Because it is stress even if you minimize 142 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,080 it. You know, it is stressful for the plant. Stressful, but 143 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:09,080 sometimes you got to move. I heard a motivational speaker said, if you 144 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,600 don't like where you are, move you are not a tree. I guess 145 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:16,799 he makes a good point there. Plants on trial coming up next here on 146 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:26,840 the Gardening Simplified Show. Stay tuned. Proven Winner's Colored Choice Shrubs cares about 147 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,200 your success in the garden. That's why we trial and test all of our 148 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,240 shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they outperform everything else on the 149 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:37,240 market. Look for them in the distinctive white container at your local garden center. 150 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:45,240 Greeting's Gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. At 151 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,279 this point in the show, we put one of the proven Winner's Color Choice 152 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:50,799 shrubs on trial, which means we're going to tell you about it and you 153 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,960 get to decide if you're going to add it to your landscape or not your 154 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,720 garden, whatever you call it. And you know, I always try to 155 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:03,799 tie into whatever the theme of the show is, and today I picked a 156 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,600 rose. I picked oh so easy Italian ice rose. And one of the 157 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:13,600 reasons that I picked it is I wanted to kind of address the ease of 158 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,399 transplanting because we get so so many questions at prove Owner's Color Choice Shrubs Abot. 159 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:20,919 I planted this, you know, Like I was saying in the previous 160 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:24,879 segment, a lot of places get shadier over time and people people need to 161 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:28,480 move them or they and this is common and I am just as guilty of 162 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:33,399 this as anyone else. You buy a plant, it's a cute little one 163 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,240 gallon and you look at the tag and you're like fifteen feet. I don't 164 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:41,000 think so, and then a couple of years go by, and then next 165 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,639 thing you know, it is indeed fifteen feet and you have to move it 166 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:50,600 well, hopefully before it gets to be quite That's all. So I think 167 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,919 that especially shrubs and most perennials are easier to move than most people think, 168 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,639 at least in terms of the root mass. Right Like, you aren't going 169 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,200 to need an excavator, you're not going to need a bacco. You will 170 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:11,440 be able to successfully move most trubs that are even reasonably mature. And that's 171 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,039 true of roses. Roses are from a root standpoint, very easy to move. 172 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:22,399 From a physical ability standpoint, things could get a little bit trickier. 173 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,480 So I am going to get into some tips on transplanting roses But first I'm 174 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,799 want to kind of paint the picture of oh So easy italianized rose and tell 175 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,039 you why I picked this out of all of the many, many roses in 176 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,840 the proven Winter's color choice line as today's plant on trial. And you've heard 177 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:41,639 a say before that roses really have a second wind or a second summer in 178 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:50,639 windfall comes around. The longer nights, the cooler temperatures just completely change the 179 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,919 color of roses. It's amazing. I have oh So easy roses. And 180 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:58,879 as you get into November, that's a good way of putting it. Second 181 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,840 wind. Yeah, even as late as November, if you have not had 182 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,919 a severe frost yet, they will continue to open. Buzz. Now, 183 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:09,720 they probably won't be setting any new buds, but any buds that they did 184 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:13,679 set over October, and we've had a warmer than typical October here in West 185 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,960 Michigan, any of those buds they set, they'll continue to open. I 186 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,720 mean, I have seen roses absolutely coated with frost and plants still just like 187 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:26,879 eh whatever. So o sweezy Italian ice rose is sort of like the color 188 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,120 coloration is similar to one of the most famous roses of all time, and 189 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:33,960 that is peace the piece rose, so it kind of has like a creamy 190 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:37,960 yellow center and that sort of graduates out to orange and then finally pink at 191 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,919 the tips of the petals and oh sweezy Italian ice. Rose is absolutely beautiful 192 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:48,120 when it blooms in summer, but the color that it takes on when it 193 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:54,360 blooms in fall is really just something that you have to see. And it's 194 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,559 not that it's like, you know, gaudy, but it's just so much 195 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,200 writer and you know, with the moody fall light and everything, it's just 196 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:07,240 sort of shining out in the landscape. And I have found that particularly, 197 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,559 I think the pinks on Oh So Easy Italian Ice are what really gets you 198 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,399 know, the volume just gets turned up and you know, it's it's just 199 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,360 like a totally different experience. And that's one of the things I love so 200 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,080 much. And I think I talk about this a lot on the show when 201 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,919 I'm talking about plants. I love plants that have these changes. I love 202 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:30,600 something that's a little bit unpredictable and that you know, you're not just like, 203 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:31,679 Okay, well, yeah that rose is beautiful, but it looks the 204 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,639 exact same as it did a month ago. No, I don't want to 205 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,000 want something to, you know, be of its time, and I think 206 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:41,519 oh so easy Italian ice rose is a perfect example of that. I think 207 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:45,519 that's why people love fall color. It's just all the changes and the change, 208 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:48,960 and it's vibrant. And when you can add plants to the landscape that 209 00:14:50,159 --> 00:14:54,120 add to that vibrancy. Wow. Yeah, and especially an unexpected color like 210 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:58,480 those pinks in orange and yellow. You know, they're not the as they're 211 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,120 a little bit more on the pestel side, whether than the super vivid tones 212 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:05,480 you're seeing in the landscape, but they just somehow feel right at home in 213 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:07,879 the autumn landscape. Now it's about two and a half foot tall and wide 214 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,559 row, so it's a shrub rose, a landscape rose, as we call 215 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:15,480 it. And basically what that means is that it's very, very sturdy. 216 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:18,759 It's not going to be sort of one of those narrow vase shaped roses like 217 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:20,799 a hybrid t. It's going to be kind of like a nice two and 218 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:26,000 a half foot by two and a half foot square of a plant. And 219 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,159 of course, as all the rest of the oh so easy roses, are 220 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:35,320 very disease resistant, and when we're testing for disease resistant, disease resistance on 221 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,679 roses through for the proven Winner's color choice line. What we do is we 222 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:45,399 start in our greenhouse trialing plants and we put all of the plants on trial 223 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,840 close together. These are real plants on trial and not plants on trial on 224 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,879 the show. All the plants are trialing close together. We do overhead watering, 225 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:54,480 we don't spray anything, and we're just kind of trying to let nature 226 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:58,240 take its course and do a natural selection. Any plant that under those conditions 227 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:03,120 is going to get powdery meldew or black spot will automatically take out of the 228 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,440 trial. Sure, you know. So just let's see what happens under the 229 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,679 worst possible conditions, and then if things make it through that, then we 230 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,759 start moving them on and evaluating other aspects. How do they do in the 231 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,559 landscape, how do the flowers look. So it's important to us, especially 232 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,799 for the OsO Easy series, that all of these plants are disease resistant, 233 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:23,000 and that means they're not likely to get black spot, they're not likely to 234 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,320 get powdery meldy, which of course with a big two when it comes to 235 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:30,480 roses, and they don't need dead heading. That's another thing. That we 236 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:36,120 look for is you know, traditionally things like hybrid tea roses, you need 237 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,919 to be out there cutting the old stems off so that they will continue to 238 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,960 flower. And that's not the case with the osoeasy roses well. And the 239 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,600 bonus when we move at this time of the year, also a stacey is 240 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:51,120 the winter heartiness of these plants. Yeah, that's a great, a really 241 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,480 great point because most, not all of the OsO eazy roses are hardy to 242 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:57,000 usdas on three or four, so quite quite hearty, and so you don't 243 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,840 really have to worry about moving that will they survive winter. They are all 244 00:17:00,879 --> 00:17:04,559 on their own roots, So if you're familiar with older roses that might have 245 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:07,599 been grafted and have a different route and top, that's not the case with 246 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,079 Oh So Easy. They are all one hundred percent own root rose, so 247 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,440 they will easily be able to stand up to the cold. And yeah, 248 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,799 now is a great time to transplant them because they're going to have you know, 249 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,559 it's late October, they're going to have a good six weeks of good 250 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:26,119 growing conditions for their roots to recover. And roses are definitely one of those 251 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,400 plants that as we as they go dormant, will absolutely just put all that 252 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:33,960 energy into their root system and you know, really be able to recover from 253 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,720 that, get that good root system. The rest of the plant is dormant 254 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,839 so that when spring does come, they can just come roaring back without a 255 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:45,319 problem. If you're keeping score at home, Stacy's talking about oh so easy 256 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:51,880 Italian ice rose, all of the oh so easy roses, Stacy, I 257 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,000 love. I am moving some in my landscaping right now. I don't like 258 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,519 moving roses. I'm hoping maybe you have an idea or a pointer for well. 259 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:04,279 I don't have a magical formula. I don't have a magical trick, 260 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,640 but I do have some suggestions. Now I have to ask you, are 261 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,359 you moving these into your new deer compound? Yes, my new deer compound 262 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:18,920 secure safe. You know it's so wild that roses are so thorny and so 263 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,839 favored by deer. There's so many other plants like barbary the deer won't touch 264 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,319 because they have thorns, whereas roses it just does not bother them at all. 265 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,799 And people are so surprised when they're like, well, I was covered 266 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,160 in thorns. Why would a deer eat this and not only do they eat 267 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,359 it, they devour it. Yeah taste. I've heard from a rosarian that 268 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,240 they are naturally very high in vitamin C, so that the deer almost eat 269 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,559 them as like a compulsion, like they can't resist this like super nutritious plant 270 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:49,039 that's in front of them. But yeah, in terms of those thorns, 271 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,000 that does make them a little bit tricky to move. But I do have 272 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,920 a couple tips that will make it hopefully a little bit easier, okay, 273 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,960 or at least well, it's always going to be a little painful. So 274 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:03,440 rose gauntlet, you know, rose gauntlets are are gloves for working with roses 275 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,200 that usually go up to your elbow or higher. And they're not just tougher 276 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:11,440 or more durable. They really are much more protective. And the nice thing 277 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,720 I like about rose gauntlets is that they typically have a lot more flexibility in 278 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:18,559 the fingers, because you need to have good flexibility for pruning roses. Working 279 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,920 around roses. You can't just have like that stiff, heavy leather glove that 280 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,559 would be protective against the thorns but not actually let you, you know, 281 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,440 fuck your fingers in and weeding. Oh oh that's a rough one. Yeah, 282 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,240 So get your rose gauntlets. Definitely, do not wear anything knit, 283 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:41,359 no sweaters, nothing that those rose thorns are gonna snag on at your smoothest, 284 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,079 like raincoat, although those can also get snagged by a thorn. And 285 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:51,720 then get yourself some rope and make a loop. You're like a double it 286 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:53,880 down, so you have a loop at the end, and then wrap it 287 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,440 around your plant and put the free end through that loop and sinch it so 288 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,319 that you're kind of drawing it up into like a ponytail. And then go 289 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,799 ahead and wrap it again and give it a not so make sure it's a 290 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,480 nice long piece of rope. Don't use anything that's too soft and synthetic. 291 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,319 It's going to get caught and drive you crazy. But like a good twine 292 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,880 or something like that. So for this reason, I do not recommend pruning 293 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,680 your roses before you move them. Oh really yeah, because you want to 294 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,599 have more to work with, you want to lasso, you want to last 295 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:23,799 on them. This is basically what we're doing. This is exactly what we're 296 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:29,839 suggesting here. Lasso up your rose. Hopefully you've already got that hole prepared, 297 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:33,640 go ahead and transplant. Keep it last out until you've completely filled in. 298 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,039 So that you have room to get in there and backfill it properly, 299 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:40,920 and then you can unleash your lasso. Don't try it untie it, just 300 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,480 get a knife and make quick work of it, and that's when you can 301 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:48,720 go ahead. And if it's fall, you probably want to save your punting 302 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:51,799 until spring. But if you were to transplant your rose in spring, that's 303 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:53,119 when you would want to go ahead and prune it and get it ready for 304 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,039 the season, and it should go on without missing a beat, and you 305 00:20:56,039 --> 00:21:02,440 should hopefully only have a few scratches to show for your ordeal awesome rose to 306 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:06,160 the occasion, So listen. We're going to put pictures oh so easy Italian 307 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,000 ice rose on our website, on our Instagram page, Gardening Simplified on air 308 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:11,759 dot Com. We're going to take a break. When we come back, 309 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:21,359 we've got the garden mail bag, so please stay tuned. At proven winner's 310 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,640 color Choice, We've got a shrub for every taste and every space. Whether 311 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,599 you're looking for an easycare rose and unforgettable hydrangea or something new and unique, 312 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,039 you can be confident that the shrubs and the white containers have been trialed and 313 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:40,240 tested for your success. Look for them at your local garden center. Greetings 314 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:44,519 gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's my favorite 315 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,839 part of the show because we're really going to simplify gardening for you and answer 316 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,440 your garden questions. We do have again, some big juicy questions to answer 317 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,519 with big juicy answers, so I want to get right to it. But 318 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:57,680 if you do have a question for us, you can reach us at help 319 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:02,720 HLP at Gardening's Simplified on air dot com, or just use the contact form 320 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,359 at Gardening Simplified on air dot com and we will try to get to your 321 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,559 question. And what do we got in the mailbag today? Rick Well Stacey 322 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,559 Jim sends us a juicy question. I have chestnut trees I planted ten years 323 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,519 ago. This year, I'm getting nut production on three of them, but 324 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,960 they're not what I expected. They're all singular nuts that look more like big 325 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:29,400 spiny acorns than the expected birds. The leaves look like chestnut, but not 326 00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:34,240 the nuts. Are these just immature trees? Pictures are attached? What do 327 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,559 I have? Oh? Geez, well, I think this is an important 328 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,440 question, and I do tell people when I respond to them with their gardening 329 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,160 questions. Often, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, and 330 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,720 I really do, I really do, but I do try to break it 331 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,960 gently. So, Jim, I hate to be the bear of bad news. 332 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,359 But those pictures you sent are not chestnuts, and we will put those 333 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,759 pictures, of course, on the website Gardening Simplied dot com. If you 334 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:04,480 watch the YouTube version, you will be seeing those as well. Jim, 335 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,799 what you have, or at least the pictures that you sent are of sawtooth 336 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:18,119 oak Quercus acutissima. So the foliage does look identical, pretty much identical in 337 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,960 fact, if I I'm not super familiar with chestnuts, because unfortunately, our 338 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:26,759 beautiful native American chestnut did go extinct nearly it's working on coming back, but 339 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,720 the Chinese chestnut is the primarily primary one that's planted nowadays. But the foliage 340 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:38,880 looks almost identical to the Chinese chestnut, and therefore it's possible that there was 341 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,599 a mix up at the nursery and you know that the plants were just I 342 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:48,759 don't know where you ordered these from or where you got them. Quercus acutissima. 343 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:51,400 The saw tooth oak is not native to North America. It's actually native 344 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,720 to Asia, so probably not dug out of the woods or anything like that. 345 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:57,160 But so it's possible it was just an innocent mix up at the nursery 346 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,240 because again the foliage looks so similar, or it's possible that there was just 347 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,920 a miscommunication, and this often happens in it This would not be the first 348 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,400 time I've seen it happen. It's so important to try to use botanical names, 349 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,920 even if you see yourself as a complete lay person. I'm not a 350 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,799 professional horticulturist. I'm not a botanist. Why would I need to know the 351 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:23,359 botanical names. It's so worth looking up the botanical names of the plants that 352 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,400 you want to make sure they are consistent because one of the beauty of scientific 353 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,680 names is that they are the same all around the world. So if you 354 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,480 were to go to an arboretum in another country, they might put the common 355 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:37,079 name in their language and you might not know what it means at all. 356 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,319 But if you're recognizing that scientific name on the tag or whatever it is, 357 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:45,240 you know what it is because that is universal. That's what Carl and Naas 358 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:52,799 intended all along, and it's important to be acutissima with your identification. It 359 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,279 definitely is, especially when like Jim, you have ten years into the plant. 360 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,279 So the good news is that the sawtooth oak is still a beautiful tree. 361 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,359 The squirrels are gonna love it. If not, we will not have 362 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,839 chestnuts versting on an open fire. I fear, at least not from these. 363 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,160 Now. It's possible, since you said you only have three of them 364 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,480 that are actually showing these these seed the acorns, maybe there was a mix 365 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:19,000 up and the other ones are actually chestnut. It's it's really hard to say. 366 00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:23,720 There could be any number of reasons why some are more mature than others. 367 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,359 But just to before we let you go here on this issue, I 368 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,759 do want to make another case for learning your scientific names, because okay, 369 00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:34,880 you have Quercus acutisimak, known as it's not toooth oak. You thought you 370 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:41,599 were getting the Chinese chestnut Castania molus. There is a North American native oak 371 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,119 called the chestnut oak that does not actually look so much like a chestnut, 372 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,799 and that is Quirkus montana. So this is all very confusing. I know 373 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,599 we're gonna put it in the show notes, so it's all mapped out there. 374 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:56,720 But again This is why it's so important to do your research. Find 375 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,880 out that scientific name, and then search by that if you're looking online, 376 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,039 if you're going to the garden center, any good plant company, their tags 377 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,240 should have the scientific name on there, since you're sure of what you're buying. 378 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:11,880 So, Jim, I'm sorry they're not chestnuts, but you do have 379 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,880 beautiful acorns, beautiful oak trees, and like I said, the squirrels will 380 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,759 at least be grateful. Keep us posted on those other ones though, as 381 00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:25,000 they hopefully start to flower and bear. Fruit and chestnut flowers are actually much 382 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:29,839 more showy than oak flowers. They're white, they bloom in sort of early 383 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,839 summer, very very fragrant, so you might no sooner and not just have 384 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,200 to wait until you see the seeds. Remember that one hit wonder song by 385 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Thomas Dolby, blinded by Science. Yeah, she blinded me with science. 386 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,640 Che blind. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel. Sorry, I'm 387 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,640 really sorry, Jim, I am sorry too. It's fascinating. Okay, 388 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,559 Nicole, a few questions about over wintering plants and containers. Thanks for your 389 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,839 question, Nicole. She has a couple questions about over wintering in isles. 390 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,119 Kranata patio box. Japanese holly was given to her by one of her professors. 391 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,319 Planted it in a large planter. She's wondering the best way to protect 392 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:17,119 it through winter while it's still trying to be established. Also started some lavender 393 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,000 and gustafolia from seed the spring. It's in a smaller planter. I'm wondering 394 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:26,559 the best way to over winter bring it indoors? Right, So no I 395 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:33,440 am. I am very opposed to bringing hardy plants indoors for now. I 396 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,680 did have someone write me the other day and she was like, well, 397 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,119 you can I have over winter perennial or tropical hibiscus, and this, that 398 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,799 and the other. The warmer climate your plant is native to, the more 399 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,519 success you're going to have overwintering indoors. If the planet is hardy, that 400 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:52,240 is would normally be able to survive outdoors in your area, it's really really 401 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,799 going to struggle if you bring it indoors. So Nicole. In both cases, 402 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,839 I do recommend that you keep them outdoors. The challenge here is the 403 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,079 challenge is going to be keeping the Japanese holly, which is a broad leaf 404 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:11,160 evergreen, wet enough and keeping the lavender dry enough so the lavender cannot deal 405 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,759 with winter wetness, so to over winter the lavender successfully, which, by 406 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,799 the way, great job starting that from seed. Lavender seeds are like the 407 00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:22,000 size of dust, so not the easiest thing to grow from seed. I 408 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,359 would put that in a very shallow planter, so you're not having a lot 409 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,880 of soil underneath, just holding onto water. And one of the issues that 410 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,000 happened so often with plants and containers in winter is that you get this ice 411 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,720 cube developing. The mass freezes and as it starts to thought thoughts from the 412 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,240 outside in, so you end up with this big ice cube in the center 413 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,880 that's going to take a lot longer to thaw than the edges were. And 414 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,200 with a lavender, you're getting those rains and just the soil staying really moist 415 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,039 and not draining. That is going to cause that lavender to rot. Now, 416 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,039 the opposite issue is kind of true for the Japanese holly. What's going 417 00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,480 to happen. It's an evergreen, so those leaves are just losing water season 418 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,759 long through winter, sun, winter wind. But if the ground is frozen 419 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,519 or the soil, if the ground's frozen, it can't take up any water 420 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,920 to replace that. If the ground is not frozen but the soil is too 421 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,160 dry, it has no water to take up to replace that and it will 422 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:18,279 end up desiccating. So in this case, I would say try to keep 423 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,839 it out of the sun and wind if you can. It still needs the 424 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:25,000 exposure to fresh air and to light, but you just don't want to have 425 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,480 it in the bright direct sun where that is really really just beating down on 426 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,680 it and taking away that water. Yeah, with the holly, my opinion 427 00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:34,759 is the root should be below ground level so you heal it in and if 428 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:38,599 you have a spot on the north side of the house structural shade protected from 429 00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:42,200 wind and sun like you mentioned Stacy, I think you can do fine. 430 00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,039 Yep, and malchmulch will be good on the holly, but don't put it 431 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:48,559 on the lavender. So we'll digest that all in the show notes for you 432 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,079 if you have any follow up questions. Roger asks, I've been out of 433 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,920 the country, not able to deadhead my roses now then I'm back Zone seven 434 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:03,599 A. The roses have hips as lar ping pong balls. Is it too 435 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,160 late to deadhead now? Get more blooms before winter? Should I leave the 436 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,880 hips. So rose hips are something that I think only rosarians really knew about 437 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:18,240 before. But since these disease resistant, non stop blooming landscape roses have come 438 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,599 on to the market that don't need dead heading to continue to bloom, people 439 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,400 are seeing the hips or berries or seed pods of roses a lot more than 440 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,039 they used to it. And I love rose hips the beauty. I love 441 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:33,680 them too. They're super beneficial for wildlife, and in the case of landscape 442 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,680 roses specifically so shrub roses like what we talked about earlier Oh So Easy italian 443 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,240 Ie, the rest of the Oh So Easy series, it does not stop 444 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,119 them from continuing to bloom. Now, there are roses that need to be 445 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,240 dead headed or have those snipped off to continue to bloom, but most roses 446 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,000 not a problem, and at this point in the season, I would not 447 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:56,279 snip them off. I would just let them. They contribute great winter color, 448 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,279 so they can be anywhere from orange to bright red, so really attractive 449 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,119 in the landscape, and if the birds haven't already eaten them, they certainly 450 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,599 will by the time they get softened by a couple of freeze thaws a little 451 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:14,359 bit later in the season. So no sweat roger. You're probably already seeing 452 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,279 more flowers forming, and you're making the birds happy as well. I agree. 453 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,400 And rose hips as big as ping pong. You know what ping pong 454 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,640 is. Ping pong is ten percent hitting the ball, ninety percent running around 455 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680 the room trying to retrieve the ball. Yeah, that's for sure. Crawling 456 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:34,400 under the couch. Where did that thing go? That's ping pong. Yeah, 457 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,759 I'm a terrible ping pong player. I just say that right now, 458 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,039 as my husband unfortunately knows. So anyway, thank you all so much for 459 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:45,759 your questions. You can find all of the notes at Gardeningsimplified on air dot 460 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,400 com, where you can also send us your question if you have one. 461 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,359 We're going to take a little break. Branching news is coming up next, 462 00:31:51,359 --> 00:32:00,960 so please stay tuned. The Gardening Simplified Show is brought to you by proven 463 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,119 winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning flowering shrubs and evergreens have been trialed 464 00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:10,000 and tested for your success so you enjoy more beauty and less work. Look 465 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:14,920 for proven winners, color Choice Shrubs and the distinctive white container at your local 466 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:21,440 garden center. Okay, my friends, it's time for Branching News and Stacey. 467 00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:24,720 Of course, we love fall foliage and October going into November. What 468 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:34,359 I find fascinating is images from space that show you the color in the Northeast. 469 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,720 It's pretty fascinating to look at well, yeah, to look at that, 470 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,400 And we're going to put a link on our website, Gardening Simplified on 471 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:47,279 air dot Com. A study from Appalachian State University estimated the annual event of 472 00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:53,680 fall color results in about thirty billion dollars and economic impact in the classic sight 473 00:32:53,920 --> 00:33:00,559 seeing areas like Vermont, according to experts at the US Forest Service. Of 474 00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:06,000 course, a combination of warm sunny days cool crisp nights can help enhance the 475 00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:10,519 most vivid colors visible from space. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, it 476 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:16,319 is pretty cool. Going to the West coast, a gargantuan Western red cedar 477 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,839 tree, standing one hundred and fifty one feet tall and seventeen and a half 478 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,400 feet in diameter, has been discovered. Flora's Island, so that is, 479 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:32,359 northwest of Seattle and west of Vancouver, has one of the largest contiguous areas 480 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:38,680 of old growth forest left on Vancouver Island. This gentleman was walking along and 481 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,680 spotted this tree believed to be more than a thousand years old, the find 482 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,839 of a lifetime, one of the largest old growth seeds ever documented in British 483 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:55,559 Columbia. Pretty cool. That's marveled and the pictures are amazing too. Them. 484 00:33:55,599 --> 00:34:00,720 We're going to put the link on the on the website. When you 485 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:04,839 come across something like that and that area too, when you look at the 486 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,239 western red seedars and all the old growth seeds in that area, it takes 487 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,519 your breath away. You know, it's and it's so wild to think about 488 00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:20,800 a tree just being discovered. But I know when I was in California earlier 489 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,440 this summer in the giant redwoods, you know, they are still regularly discovering 490 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:30,599 giant redwoods that out that are bigger than they thought. And you know, 491 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,360 it really is just about the right person coming around at the right time and 492 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,960 knowing what they're seeing, because other people might have hiked that area and just 493 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,320 said, WHOA, that's a big tree and moved on. And you know, 494 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,440 it's so it's like you you could be that person who really realizes what 495 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,960 you have and make a new record. Yeah, and it's important and it's 496 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:55,159 important that it's recorded in that we celebrate these trees. Their survivors is what 497 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,639 they are, which brings on a dad joke. So this skinny the little 498 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:04,159 guy walks into a lagger's office says, I want a job. The guy 499 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,480 says, you don't look like a lagger. He says, try me. 500 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:09,760 So he hands them an axe, says there's a large cedar tree out back. 501 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,960 Let's see how you do. Comes back. Two minutes later, the 502 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,239 tree is cut down. The logger says, no way, two minutes. 503 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:21,840 My best laggers could not do that. Where'd you get your training with an 504 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,320 ax? The guy says, I got my training in the Sahara forest. 505 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:29,519 The guy says, don't you mean Sahara desert. He says, well that's 506 00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:35,119 what they call it now, bad joke. Let's move along. Let's move 507 00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:38,800 to something sad. Oh this time of year, bird strikes on glass. 508 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,280 Oh gosh, yeah awful. Then they drive you crazy when you see that. 509 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,199 It does. And you know I because they're migrating. The birds are 510 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,000 just their their brains are I don't I can't describe it. Their brains are 511 00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,519 someone else. So I have two deer exclosures where I grow my vegetables, 512 00:35:53,559 --> 00:36:00,719 and they're just PVC cages that we wrap with with windowscreen, and it works 513 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,760 perfectly well to keep the deer out. But the other day I walked out 514 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,519 to the garden. It was a sunny day, and I watched bam, 515 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,159 bam, two deers in a row or two birds in a row fly directly 516 00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:14,039 into that screening. Now, they bounced right back and they were fine because 517 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,519 it was just screen. But I was like, how these things have been 518 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:22,039 here for months at this point. Unfortunately, they were okay, But yeah, 519 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,480 when it's glass or something hard, it can be quite traumatic. And 520 00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:30,519 this story really hits home, no pun intended. At least a thousand birds 521 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:35,320 died from colliding with one Chicago building in one day, so they kept track 522 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,599 many of us. I know, I've been there many times. McCormick Place 523 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:44,119 is the largest convention center in North America and it's primarily covered in glass, 524 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:49,719 so it's a lethal obstacle for birds. October fifth of this year, they 525 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:55,119 did the count within one point five miles of McCormick Place. At least one 526 00:36:55,159 --> 00:37:01,679 thousand birds died, others injured, and they kept track. So anywhere you've 527 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:07,000 got glass, you're going to have birds hitting the windows, especially during migration 528 00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:10,760 season, and this article was quite interesting and we're going to post it on 529 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,000 the website. It explained that when you have glass in a building, these 530 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:22,320 strikes for birds during the day generally occur at the lower level, especially if 531 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,119 you have plants and shrubbery inside. At night, of course, they become 532 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:31,199 disoriented by the lights and crash into the glass. And so there's a lot 533 00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:37,639 of work being done by people who are trying to maybe anticipate these problems and 534 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,519 get some of these buildings to turn off the lights in larger buildings. Will 535 00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,280 put a link there also the work that they're doing in New York where they 536 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,800 want to flip the switch on some of these commercial buildings to reduce the number 537 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,840 of these bird strikes. Yeah, I have seen some bad bird strikes in 538 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,079 my time, and it's always a heartbreak. Yeah, it is because it's 539 00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:02,599 not usually you know, the sparrows or grackles or some they're not grackles, 540 00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:07,159 but starling's something that you know, maybe could use a little reduction in the 541 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,519 population. It's always something really unique and beautiful. So it's a real tragedy. 542 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,679 So something to keep on our radar, something that's being exposed by the 543 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,480 ubiquity of social media disturbing and frustrating at the same time as bad behavior at 544 00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:29,159 national parks. Oof. Yeah, it has been bad. And I saw 545 00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:34,039 something in social media it sparked outrage. Recently, there was a lady standing 546 00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:37,760 right next to a prone bison on the side of the road, and a 547 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:44,280 few others swarmed mere feet away, snapping pictures with their phones, and right 548 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,920 there was a sign two foot away that warns people of the danger not to 549 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,719 get close to these animals. As a matter of fact, in this case, 550 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,039 I guess there was a ranger that was yelling at her, saying move 551 00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,239 away, because this bison has had charged people before. She was standing right 552 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,559 next to this thing. Anything for the perfect selfie, I guess, Oh 553 00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,639 my word, I tell you what now. Of course, bison, I 554 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:13,719 guess, have large humps at their shoulders and a bigger head and a beard 555 00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:20,119 compared to a buffalo. And they can live for a long time too. 556 00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:22,440 Yeah. I don't know about two hundred years, because that would be a 557 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:28,440 bison tennial, but they do. I set that one up. Yeah, 558 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,559 yeah, But anyhow, an American bison that works out at the gym is 559 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:38,239 a buffellow. Two bad jokes for you there? Should I move on? 560 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,800 You got more? I mean no? Oh, I could come up with 561 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:49,119 more events. Are you going for quality? Yeah? Quality? Or I 562 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,840 thought Bison tenni oal was pretty good? All right, see you later. 563 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:57,880 Alligators. A Pennsylvania man opened his front door to find a large gator stretched 564 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,320 across the threshold a couple of weeks ago. It led to at least nine 565 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:08,800 other chompers being rescued from a nearby home. Tony Golarski of Kissky Township told 566 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,519 WTAE of the moment he learned about the alligator that was spotted on his front 567 00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:20,000 porch. The reptile five to six feet long, spotted by a neighbor. 568 00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:24,639 Now Gerlaski had just been discharged from the hospital. The neighbor called and said, 569 00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:30,079 hey, I don't know, but you better check your back porch there 570 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:34,280 because there's a five to six foot alligator there. I guess there was a 571 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,599 neighbor of his who had a dirty backyard pool. The enclosure had broken and 572 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,840 the reptiles ran amok. But where did they come from? He was just 573 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,880 bringing them in and according to this article selling the gators on Craigslist, No, 574 00:40:52,480 --> 00:41:00,599 that's terrible. Sell an alligator. I know it's terrible. He's been 575 00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:05,320 arrested. And can you imagine opening up the back door and a six foot 576 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,320 alligator in Pennsylvania of all places. And I can see it in Florida, 577 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:14,480 but Pennsylvania. No. So the good news it was watering the plants at 578 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:20,440 the time while it was there because it was an irrigator. The neighbor in 579 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:27,039 this case was the instigator. And now the person collecting these alligators will be 580 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,079 dealing with a lit a gator. Okay, that does it for branching news. 581 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:35,960 That was fun, wasn't it. Yeah. 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