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Hey, everybody, This is Left
Strive. Yes, yes, I know

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aka Survivor Man, and you're listening
to Brian on sasquatch Otis you there?

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Thanks so much for being with us
for the show. It is Wednesday.

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I hope you had a great week. We have an amazing guest line up

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for you. But before we get
there, I want to start by inviting

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you. If you've had an encounter
and you'd like to be on the show,

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shoot me an email you get me
a Brian at Paranormo World Productions dot

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com. You can head over to
the website, check it out, become

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a member there and help support the
show. As I said, we've got

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a great guest lined up on the
show. I got to sit down and

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talk to Harley from Tennessee and he
had an experience about three years ago where

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he saw a sasquatch and was able
to take a photograph and he got some

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great pictures and some video of a
footprint trackway, as well as captured audio

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that you'll get to hear in this
episode. But I'll let Harley tell you

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all about that in just a second. As you know, Christmas is coming

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up next week, but we're going
to keep a regular production schedule here in

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the studio so you will not miss
an episode. But enough of that,

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I know you guys are ready to
get into it. Harley's on the line,

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he's ready to go. You got
to sit back, relax, and

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enjoy the show. I don't want
to welcome my guest to the show.

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It is Harley from Tennessee. Welcome
to the show man. Yes, sir,

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thank you for having me. I'm
glad we could reschedule this, so

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let's get right into it. Were
you interested in the subject the Bigfoot before

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you had an experience or was it
even something that was on your radar.

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It was just something that I never
really looked into and could actually accept that

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is reality. I just thought it
was just a bunch of bull craft.

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I was like, yeah, it's
not even possible. And there ain't no

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giant, a black creature of whatever
you want to call it running around the

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woods. And sure enough, it's
three years ago in September, I sayed

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one, I got picture of and
a at the tracks, and I got

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the howls of it, And these
things are real, They're legit. And

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I've actually recently started my own group
and I'm going to start a YouTube channel

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on the podcast in twenty twenty four. I'm gonna go out new field investigations

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on my time off of work and
dedicate my future to get more evidence to

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support what I've already got. And
it's great stuff coming from a hum believer,

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and I knew if I didn't have
it any nobody was going to believe

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me. But it is what it
is. People is going to do what

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they're going to do. It's just
human nature. Let's get right into your

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experience. You had this as you
weren't a believer in Bigfoot, so let's

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talk a little bit about what happened
here in your experience. Where were you,

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what were you doing, and what
happened to you. I was actually

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at the time working for my dad
and mom's neighbor that you had an auction

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company that auctioned off old saw mills, and he took them fort and read

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everything and sold them all the equipment
or whatnot that was at the auction.

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We were up there for about two
weeks and a week prior it was me

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and another boy and we went up
there to clean the equipment stuff and get

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it ready for the sale. That
weekend, me and him was talking with

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the owner, and he was telling
us about a bear that was up there

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around the sawmill that was taking the
garbage and stuff out of the dumpsters.

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He said, there's a bear,
he's pretty good sized, running around,

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and there's snakes, rattlesnakes, copperheads, and a bunch of coyote. He

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said. This is what really stuck
with me. He said, there's far

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worse things in these mountains than that. And I was like, that's odd.

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That's something you really don't ever to
here, because what could be worse

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than that? And I got to
thinking. I was like, okay,

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maybe, well, black panther or
something, because there's been stories around here

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for years about black panthers running around
in Tennessee. It's like, okay,

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maybe that's possibility. That's what he's
talking about. Going on through that rest

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of the week there, nothing really
happened, and auction day was on Saturday.

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And after the auction I stayed up
there for the next week. He

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sent the other guys to somewhere else. I can't remember where it was sound.

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I think it may have been Pennsylvania
or somewhere, but I stayed up

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there to load the small stuff that
was on pallets or that could be loaded.

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That next day, it was a
Sunday. It was raining and stuff,

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and I wasn't just going to sit
in the hotel all day. I'm

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to go. I can't just sit
still. So I went back out there

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and I got down to the saw
mill and I've got parked, and I

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was just walking around looking and I
was organizing some stuff, and I was

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like, Okay, I'm just gonna
walk over here and look around. Man.

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I got walking around looking and I
can make out some of the tracks

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that there was only two of them
that I can make out pretty good.

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And I sent the pictures to you
of those two and they were you could

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see where it was raining and stuff. And I found those first two that

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were really good, and I was
like, man, there's somebody either walking

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around here butt naked or barefooted,
and they're bigger than me. I'm six

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six and I'm almost two hundred pounds. And then it's just that's a big

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foot. And I was like,
I was joking with myself, like okay,

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yeah, bigfoot out here. I
was joking with myself. I was

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like, Okay, there's a big
fit. So in the next couple of

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days that dried up, and I
believe it was a Tuesday or a Wednesday.

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I know it was the twenty third
at September, but I don't remember

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what day it was on exactly.
It's either two day or a Wednesday.

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I had a guy come in there
that morning. I had helped him load

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a couple of his pallettes up and
a couple other small things, and he

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coming in there about eight thirty nine
o'clocks and I hadn't had anybody in there

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for a couple of hours, and
it was going on about one four twenty

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you want forty five. I go
to my service truck and I grabbed coke

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coola and my peanut butter sandwich out
of my cooler and I go just about

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and take a bite out of my
sandwich and I heard like this gral a

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chagrin. And I looked over towards
the woodline and I was like, maybe

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that's a bear. Because now I
had never heard a bear. I was

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like, maybe that's just a bear. I looked over towards the woodline and

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there was nothing there, and I
was like, okay, I heard it

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again. And up on this there's
a big flat right there where I was

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at it's a big flat and then
it goes up on the ridge and I

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looked up on the ridge and there
was opening some stuff in the tree and

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I could see his flash of black
and I was like, okay, there's

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a bear. All I think was
just a flash of black behind this the

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brush going up through there on this
all on this clip page. I was

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like, okay, there's the bear. And I'm still sitting there looking.

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I could hear it up there walking. It was just real heavy. Whenever

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it was walking. I was like, man, that's got to be a

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big bear. And I looked down
and I looked back up and I've seen

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it go back in behind where it
was peeking out from. I was like,

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I said, no way. And
I sitting there watching it and it

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would lead. It was leaning out
and it was looking and I was like,

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oh my god, this thing's big. But these things are real,

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they're legit, and it was just
like oh, like oh crap moment,

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and I was just frozed. I
was like, if I don't get a

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picture of this thing, nobody's going
to believe me. Because I was like

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if I try and video, this
thing will be gone. So I just

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pulled my phone out. I snagged
a picture, and the weirdest thing happened

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with this phone. He was a
brand new phone I had. I believe

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it's the iPhone eight. I can't
remember what phone was if I believe his

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iPhone eight was new to me because
I had always had Samsung's. And I

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snagged a picture and this phone just
seems like it was drained of everything.

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It wouldn't come on until about thirty
ish minutes if that after this creature was

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gone. This whole thing lasted like
maybe five minutes. And it was there

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and it was peaking out watching me. And I noticed it, and I

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mean just sitting here and like thinking
back, like this thing was looking at

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me, and it was looking on
up the valley because the sawmil was involved

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in this big valley, and it
was just it was looking at me,

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and then it would like look over
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And this thing was just crazy intelligent. The feeling that I had when this

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thing was looking at me was just
straight up just fear and confusion. But

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there's also something else there. There's
I feel like it's something spiritual, but

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it may not have been, but
it was definitely a different experience. For

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sure. Let's talk a little bit
about the situation because I find it interesting

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that this thing was growling. And
I've heard this before, and I want

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to get your opinion on it,
because I like that you're a skeptical person.

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You went into this skeptical. You
weren't looking for bigfoot, that kind

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of thing. Let's talk a little
bit about that, because I've had people

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that have seen these things and they
talk about their encounters, and the first

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thing they say is, this thing
makes some kind of a noise. It

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growls, it snaps a stick,
it hits a tree or whatever, and

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then steps out in front of them. You probably wouldn't have known this thing

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was around had it If it hadn't
have made that noise, I would have

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never known it was there. Right, So you hear the growl and then

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you look up and you see this
thing peeking in and out from behind a

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tree. I know what's subjective.
I know you don't really know. There's

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really no way to know what's going
through this thing's mind. But having had

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that experience, and now looking back, and you've talked about your experience a

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couple of times, now, what
do you think was going on? Do

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you think this thing wanted you to
see it. It growled and showed itself

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to you for a reason. I
definitely feel like that thing wanted me to

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know that it was there, and
that's it's domain. That's definitely how I

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feel about it, because if it
had had done it, I would have

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never known it was there. Like
I said, and it definitely made its

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presence known. I knew it was
there and it it just turned around and

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went back the way it came.
I could hear it walking up the ridge.

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It was loud, and it's just
a life changing experience. Man.

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I still have people and people in
my family think I'm crazy. My wife,

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she's still she's skeptical. I've showed
her everything and she's skeptical about it.

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It's hard being ridiculed about it.
It's good a praef as I got.

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I never imagined that I would catch
as much crap as I have about

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this stuff. It's hard, Yeah, man, I can only imagine because

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I've been through it myself. I
found tracks and I found things here on

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my property that I can't explain,
and I put it out there and people

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start making fun of you immediately.
That's why the latest evidence I have I've

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gotten some really good tracks here a
couple of months ago. I haven't showed

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them to anybody. I think one
person I showed them to because she's here

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in the area and I have a
relationship with her and she's into bigfoot.

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I send her the pictures and she's, holy shit, you got to show

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people this stuff because that's amazing.
And I'm like, no, I'm not

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because it's too good, because people
are going to ridicule and say I made

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it up, and I made the
tracks, I hope something whatever. I

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just don't need that in my life. I am glad that you had this

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experience and you did catch what you
did, which is pretty amazing considering that

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you weren't into the subject and you
were able to get a photograph. You

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were able to document the tracks with
photographs and video which you've sent me.

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I will post that on the website. If you guys want to check it

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out, you can go over to
Panama Worldproductions dot com check out the Sasquatch

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out to see blog at the top
of the page there and you can see

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what we're talking about. I want
to talk a little bit about how far

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away this thing was from you.
It's difficult for me to see in the

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photographs, and it's hard to judge
the distance. So why don't you tell

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me in the audience how far away
was this thing when you saw it?

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And can you talk a little bit
about what you got to see? The

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description as much detailed as you can
give, and how big this thing was?

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How big do you think it is
as far as heightweight that kind of

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thing. I'd say it was easily
over one hundred yards is pretty good distance.

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Why I had my camera zoomed in
as far as it was go and

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I'm still amazed that I got as
good as a picture that I did of

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this thing because I had it zoomed
in all the way and I just I

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was trying to stay as still as
a kid. I might have been taken

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a little bit, but it's a
great picture. It's definitely a shadow.

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You can see the hair on this
thing. If you zoom in close enough,

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you can see the light shining on
its hair along the edge of the

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body. It's a great photo.
And yeah, the enhanced images, I

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just blew my mind on one of
them. You could definitely make out some

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of the facial features. You can
see an eye and the nose and some

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of it, and one of them
it was actually, as somebody had commented

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on one of my posts in my
group, he ran it through his lappop

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on snagget and he was able to
just play around with it. And this

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thing was not black this entire time. It literally looks in that picture like

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it was reddish brown. So I
don't know if that was just the shadow

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of the brush around him making it
look black, but the photo that he

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done, it appears to be reddish
brown, and it just it blew my

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mind. But like I said,
it was about one hundred yards away.

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I really couldn't make out no facial
features or nothing. But I will say

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the most impressive part of this thing
that I do remember was just a sheer

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width of this thing. So I'd
say it was easily thirty four feet wide

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across the shoulders. It was too
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seven and a half eight feet tall. I'd say five hundred and six pounds.

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It was impressive. Yeah, it's
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bit about the tracks that you saw. Obviously we've got photos of those,

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I've got the video that everybody can
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listening now, Talk a little bit
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like? Did they look human like
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and what did you initially think once
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set tracks that I found long Sunday, I definitely just thought it was maybe

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a homeless guy walled them around out
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got to be a pretty good size
home on Spandely A big track like that.

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The trackway video and those tracks,
those came from the day after I

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saw the creature. This thing came
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and that evidently they used a deer
trail that comes out through there. It

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came down that trail and end of
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when I was gone that night after
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It was sometime like that, but
it was definitely in there whenever I

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wasn't in there. It was insane
and they were definitely human. You can

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make out the heel and you can
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the video, if you know,
there's a dried up creek bed right there,

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I mean, you probably can't really
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and not dried up creek bed,
and that thing came from across the creek

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bed. And you can see where
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the first track that I show.
This thing came down and it's stepped in

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its slid. You can see where
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was, the little hump right there, it's stepped in its slid, and

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just the stride from track to track. I, like I said, I'm

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six six and I couldn't do its
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it was ridiculous. And they're definitely
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definitely I want to go back to
the owner of the auction that you were

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talking to and talking about the bear. Looking back on this, hey,

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did you think that he knew more
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if he was telling you there was
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there, do you think the bear
that he was telling you about might have

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been his way of giving you a
code word to say, hey, beware

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of this bear, and he may
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Then then, obviously, did you
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talk to this guy after you had
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about what you saw and maybe what
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you saw it. I feel like
he definitely knew. I tried to get

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in contact with this guy, and
I'm still to this day try to get

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a hold of him and be like, did you know this thing was out

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there? This whole time. I
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of this guy. It's like,
you don't want to talk about it.

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He definitely had to have known this
thing was out there. But here's the

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kicker. Whenever I was going to
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to a diner and I talked to
some old timers. I was like,

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if anybody's gonna know what these things
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Because they've lived here all their lives. They know these mountain legs back of

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their heads. So I just sat
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conversation and I was like, we're
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I got to talking to him.
I was like, I've been up here

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for about a week two weeks now, and I've had an experience with something

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that I don't want to accept,
but I said, I've accepted it now

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that I've seen one. I was
like, I think I've seen a I

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think i've seen a Bigfoot. And
I've showed them the tracks and showed them

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the picture, and I let them
listening to the vocalizations and they were quiet.

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They were quiet first, and they
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He said that there's the Devil month. And that's something that I had never

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heard before, and it's stuck with
me to this date. And he's like,

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you're lucky you didn't get yourself hurt
or killed because these things are aggressive

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and they'll run you out of their
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Devil Monkeys, that's it's say.
I definitely think you just named your episode

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devil Monkeys. I want to talk
a little bit about we mentioned it a

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couple of times the audio. Talk
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about. I'm going to play it
for everybody here in just a minute.

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I think there's like a four minute
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the entire clip because I want you
to set it up for So, when

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did you capture this idio? What
was the circumstances of the idea, what

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was going on before deering and after
you captured this, And then I'll play

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it for everybody so they can understand
what we're talking about. It was in

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just ride about desky dark guys,
sitting in the truck and inn catalog and

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just making sure whoever came was supposed
to come and pick up their stuff for

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today, because we had people scheduled
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So I just sitting there doing that
and now the old birds chirping, drink

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its and all that stuff, and
all of a sudden, it just the

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woods just died. And I sitting
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and I had to window cracked a
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This was the first night when I
heard on. There's one particular vocalization

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that happened the first night, and
it was the really loud vocalization. So

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I got out and I went to
the back of the truck and I see

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standing there listening and that's when when
it started howling. And it was up

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on top of the ridge, literally
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It was insane, just the forest
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runs right through you. It was
insane. The whole place was just a

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going and after that one I got
out of there. The other two audio

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clips were from the next night,
which was been a Thursday, because I

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went home on a Friday. Yeah, it was right. I seen a

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freachuer on Wednesday, and I heard
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And then the next night's when I
got two separate a fifteen minutes, if

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not less than night a part.
And it was insane that the next night

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there definitely had to have been more
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coming up on the holler from where
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then the other ones were just scattered
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more than one. They just they
sounded different and it was unlike anything I've

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ever heard. Dude, it's crazy. All right, I'm gonna play it

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for everybody so everybody can get an
understanding of what we're talking about and what

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you captured. So these are the
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See yeah, all y ll all
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such susp susan name, English house
and away game, English m D

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name name Janish English, English name
names you English your name name name when

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English UNI. Stay tuned for more
sasquatch oat to see. We'll be right

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back after these messages. That is
some really weird audio. When you send

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it over to me today, I
send it to a couple of people that

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I know that are into audio.
I send it to Doug Hicheck for Monster

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Quest. I said, Doug,
tell me what you think about this audio.

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I don't know if you're familiar with
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He does a lot of audio work
for them, and he's been in

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tons of documentaries that if you've seen
a Bigfoot documentary that's played audio, you've

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probably seen David Ellis. Doug has
worked with audio and video for forty years

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in television. But I send it
over to David just to say, Hey,

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I'm interviewing this guy tonight. Take
a listen to this audio. What

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do you think about it? He
listened to it, and he sent an

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email back and said that he believes
that it's in the possibility of human range.

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I don't know what that means.
Again, he didn't have any backstory.

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We only went back and forth a
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audio. I tell you his response
surprised me because when I heard it,

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I've never heard anything that sounded like
that. And if this thing was as

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far away as you say it was
on this ridge, it's pretty impressive.

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As far as the audio, I've
never heard anything like that close up or

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far away. Doug Hichek sent me
back a text message. He was like,

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what's the background on this? So
I told him a little bit about

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your story and how you had seen
this creature the day before. Doug said,

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Man, that sounds like a dying
elephant. It's like a wailing sound

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like it. It's just odd,
man. I've had people tell me it's

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l one. It's not an el
It's definitely not an elk bul. I

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mean, I've heard help bugle and
leave. We've got elk care Tennessee now

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that they've reintroduced them back, and
it's not elk. I've got people tell

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me it's coyotes. Definitely not a
coyote. If that's a coyote, it's

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a monster. I've had people tell
me it's coonhound. I used to have

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a coon dog as a walker.
As far as I'm aware of a coon

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dog is never sounded like that.
Yeah, man, I used to coon

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hunt when I was a kid,
and I grew up around coon dog's all

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my life. That is definitely not
a coon dog we're listening to. And

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I'll be honest, David knows way
more about audio as far as that kind

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of stuff than I do. I'd
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and maybe have him go a little
bit deeper because he literally just as a

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favorite to me. He did it
really quickly today, just popped it in,

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listened to it and said what I'm
seeing. Because the thing about audio,

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if you work with audio like I
do with the show, you start

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to look at audio more than you
listen in some cases, because when you

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put it into certain things like a
spectrogram, you can see the audio.

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And I can literally look at a
human's voice who talks on here, I

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can see an and I know what
those look like in the audio because I

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added most of those out of the
show. It's very similar to what David

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does with the audio because he knows
a ton of known animal voices. And

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that's the one thing he didn't come
back with. Oh no, that's within

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the human range. But I think
it's X Y or Z. He didn't

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tell me what the possible candidate could
be, because I tell you, man,

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it's one of the most interesting things
I've ever heard. Frankly, knowing

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the story of you seeing this thing
in the very same area, to me,

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is just that extra layer of credibility
on top of If you just captured

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the ideo, if you just stuck
a recorder out in the woods and left

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and came back twenty four hours later
and that was on the audio, you'd

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be like, what the hell is
that? I don't know, But you

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saw this thing, you saw footprints, you saw impressions in the ground,

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you saw this thing, you took
a picture, and then you were experiencing

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the vocalizations on top of that.
It's just that extra layer of credibility.

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I don't know any other way to
say it. I appreciate the fact that

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I assume you recorded that on your
phone. Is that how you captured the

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audio? Yeah, I had to
use my voice memos to record that because

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my phone from earlier in that day. Yet the camera on that phone still

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I work to this day. I
still have the same phone. Like when

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I use the home button on it, it just deep that makes all kinds

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of weird noises, and the cameras
still don't work. I believe these creatures

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are capable of in forsound. I
believe that feeling that I had when when

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I was looking at this thing,
I believe I definitely got an impact from

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in forsound. It was unlike any
feeling that I've ever had. I'm new

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to the bigfoot community. I've learned
so much just in this past little bit,

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and I've actually been out doing my
own investigations now and definitely interesting stuff

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for sure. I'm definitely hoping to
have another encounter, hopefully right here in

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my own backyard, literally about thirty
minutes from the house. Let's get into

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that. When you and I were
we were messaging back and forth today,

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you said that you had been out
recently and doing some investigations and you had

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some interesting experiences. Let's talk about
the stuff that just happened a couple of

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days ago. Yeah. I don't
know if you're familiar with Scott Carpenter,

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but apparently this is one of the
spots that he used to investigate and he

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got run out of this spot,
and this spot is what made him stop

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doing his infield research. Apparently,
and this is from one of his friends.

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But he sent me where this place
was at, so I kicked it

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upon myself. Okay, I'm gonna
literally go because it's literally twenty by thirty

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minutes from my house. It was
a couple of days ago. I believe

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it was Wednesday when I went,
so I just got off work. I

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didn't go to sleep. I was
so excited. I was like, man,

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I'm just gonna go out here hopefully
find all kinds of stuff. So

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I'm on the way out there and
I turn off on this road and it's

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a gravel road that goes all the
way back up in there, and I

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kind of wish I took my truck
and not my wife's. Far Now,

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heat was messed up in so that's
why I took her. Forest. I

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was driving up in there, and
I just had this heary feeling. Man,

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I was like, damn, this
is this eerie. So I just

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kept driving up in there. And
this is an old cemetery. It's called

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Trip Cemetery cause the tendency way up
in the mountain. I just pull in

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there and I parked the car and
I'm facing sideways just in case, Man,

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what if these things come running out
and run me out of here,

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and I just got to go.
So I got out of the car and

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I'm sitting there walking around looking and
I stayed up at the cemetery for about

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twenty minutes. So sometimes I get
out of my car and I've got this

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all video and documented on my page
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to my right and I get out
of my car and there's a bunch of

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laurel trees down in there. They're
still green. And I looked over to

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my left and I see it about
eight foot up. This tree is literally

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twisted and broke eight feet up.
So I walk over to it and I

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raised my arm up and I'm standing
flat footed on the ground and I had

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to stand on my tippee toes to
even get up there. To that,

408
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:57.279
I don't think it was natural.
It was literally twisted and broke. And

409
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:02.359
there was a trail right there next
to where that was. There's trails went

410
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.039
down beside the cemetery, and the
trail that went down the left into those

411
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.160
laurel trees down in the haller,
and there was another trail that shot up

412
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straight back in behind the cemetery.
I mean that trail may have been a

413
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:18.160
hiking trail, but I believe that
trail that was running beside the cemetery gates

414
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.240
there, I believe that these preachers
are using. So I'm still sitting there

415
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.880
for about twenty more minutes, I
just get this eerie feeling. I was

416
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.319
like, this is familiar, because
I literally it's like I had this filling

417
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.279
three years ago. It's just hearing. My hair started standing up. So

418
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.599
I was like, okay, and
like I could hear some movement over in

419
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.039
these trees, and I'm just like, man, I'm just gonna go.

420
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.920
So I get in the car and
I'm driving on my way out, and

421
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:52.920
I look over to my left,
and sure enough, there's a big tree

422
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.839
right there, and it had a
bee in it, and there's this log

423
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.720
the b day long, and it
was literally laid in the V of this

424
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.599
tree. And I'm just like,
man, this is just too good to

425
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.759
be true. I was like,
that's not natural because that log was laid

426
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.000
literally in the V of this tree, and that had on the back side

427
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.480
of the tree was another log that
was propped up and laid in the vat

428
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.200
it definitely caught my attention. I'm
still learning that I'm learning new stuff every

429
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.640
day, and there's stuff that you
can think about and rule if it's natural

430
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:29.160
or not natural. Yeah, I
could have just fell right there, sure,

431
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.880
But looking around right there, there
was no signs of a tree break

432
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.759
or nothing. It's literally just placed
in the v of this tree, and

433
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.079
the other one is just propped up
right in the same spot. How could

434
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:47.279
something natural do that? Like when? So I'm still driving on the way

435
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:52.839
back out of this place, and
I see another one. It's a smaller

436
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:57.720
one, but it's a broke off
stunt, probably about seven seven and a

437
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.920
half feet I was a little taller
than meat. At the bottom of it,

438
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:05.359
there was some sticks about that big
a realm. There were one on

439
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.039
this side, one on this side, and one on the backside. And

440
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:13.640
it just really caught my attention.
I was like, yeah, I could

441
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.599
a hiker have done that? Certainly. I'm just sitting there thinking it doesn't

442
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.880
look like anybody really goes up in
this place because it had been raining and

443
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.839
stuff, and it didn't really look
like ive goes in there. So I'm

444
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.880
just like, man, it could
be bigfoot, but I'm not ruling that

445
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.440
that it's not. So I'm still
driving out of this place, and it's

446
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:37.000
pretty good drive back in there.
So to pull up on this next spot,

447
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.799
and I could see from it was
frosty and everything. And so I'm

448
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.799
pulling up and I see where the
leaves are kicked up going across the road,

449
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.880
and like the gravels were kicked up. So I get out and I

450
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.160
start looking around them. I'm recording
while I'm doing all this, because I

451
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.519
was going to do a Facebook live
and I didn't have no service up there.

452
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.640
They had some sandllite, really,
So I get out and I'm looking

453
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:08.679
around and there's these walnuts on this
rock and they are smashed. Just all

454
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.400
these walnuts are smashed on the rock. And I'm like, that's odd.

455
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.119
As far as I'm aware of squirrels, they bury walnuts. What kind of

456
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:22.840
animal would place these walnuts on these
rocks smashed? There wasn't just one rock,

457
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.360
this whole little flat. I've got
it all on a video. There's

458
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:30.719
multiple places where these walnuts are just
smacked and it's just the shells. There's

459
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.079
nothing else inside is gone, it's
just the shells, just smashed the pieces.

460
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:40.679
And I just keep walking around and
looking and I think I may have

461
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.599
found a couple of possible tracks.
I'm going around here looking some more,

462
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.719
and there's this big old patch of
green just laying on the ground, but

463
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.239
you're just branches and some big old
area, broken branches laying there. And

464
00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.800
I'm like, this is weird.
Sung over and I'm looking around and there's

465
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.400
none of these trees around this area
right here, and they're all broken and

466
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.679
they're laying in this big area and
I'm looking around and I'm just like,

467
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.880
this is either a nest or this
means something else. I'm still looking into

468
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.840
that. I speak one seeing if
they think't that's had some tell me that

469
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:27.400
could be a nest. But it
was just really strange. These green leaves

470
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.719
are falled up in this big area. I could see where something was laying

471
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:37.000
in there. It really interests and
stuff. I remember on my way into

472
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.719
this place, there was a big
oak tree on the right hand side.

473
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.320
I think it was an oak tree, but it was right when you get

474
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:49.639
into this place's big tree on your
right. And on my way out there

475
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.039
was a stick propped up against it, and I'm sitting there thinking, I'm

476
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:59.000
like, that wasn't there when I
came in. It was literally propped up

477
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:00.760
on this big tree, and to
my knowledge, it was not there when

478
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:07.000
I drove in. This place is
definitely gonna be one of my top spots,

479
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.760
and I'm gonna try and be looking
into and I'm trying trying to have

480
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.519
more areas to go look into.
I've been in touch with Scott Carpenter's son

481
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.119
and he's gonna try and get me
some of the areas that he's looked into.

482
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.599
It's definitely interesting stuff. Man.
It's interesting that you mentioned the walnuts

483
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:28.440
because I've talked to the people at
the North American Wood Ape Conservancy. They're

484
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.039
out an Area X in Oklahoma.
That's one of the things that they were

485
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:36.079
finding in that area. Clearly,
they've had tons of interactions with what they

486
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.639
call sasquatch out in that area,
and they're finding what they call these nuts

487
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:44.719
stations, where the exact same thing
that you just found in Tennessee a couple

488
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.480
of days ago is happening out in
Area X in Oklahoma. They're finding these

489
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:54.000
areas where these things are using rocks
to smash nuts, remove the nuts out,

490
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.599
and leave the shells behind. Just
what it is, it's loali,

491
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.760
just the shells land on these rocks. And there was multiple rocks in this

492
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.440
area. And get this, Whenever
I was going down when I found the

493
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.880
first possible track right there next to
the rock where I found the walnut,

494
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.079
and like on the moss right there, it literally looks like this thing's hand

495
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.840
was dragged right because the moss was
gone. It's just this big area.

496
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.519
Probably about that why it just gone
off the monts. I don't know.

497
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.199
If it hans swid there, if
it was the rock, I don't know.

498
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.719
But when I'm down in the creek
and I come back up to the

499
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.800
car, that's when I find the
next track. I don't know if it

500
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.039
had just come through whenever I was
on my way up, or if it

501
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:42.039
was there whenever I first pulled up. But it was literally fifteen feet from

502
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.119
the car. It was right there, literally right in front of the car.

503
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:52.079
Wow, crazy stuff, man.
I never imagined that I'd be hunting

504
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.559
big footing here. I am.
It happens to all of us, man,

505
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.920
we never imagine it, and then
it happened. That's definitely interesting stuff.

506
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.920
Stay tuned for more sasquatch ott to
see. We'll be right back after

507
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:10.119
these messages. What's your take on
bigfoot? I meant to ask you that.

508
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.320
Do you think that they are a
flesh and blood creature or do you

509
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:21.239
think there's something more to them?
I am probably ninety percent in the flesh

510
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.079
and blood camp. I think if
they exist, I think there's something to

511
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:31.840
them that maybe people attribute to being
something supernatural that I haven't experienced. There's

512
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.360
a lot of people who have mind
speak things go on, they have weird

513
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.159
orbs and other things that are associated
with Bigfoot. I haven't experienced any of

514
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.760
that stuff, so it's very difficult
for me to say that it is directly

515
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:50.159
connected to Bigfoot. So I rest
solely in that ninety ninety five percent that

516
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.559
they're flesh and blood. I keep
an open mind because I could be wrong.

517
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.280
Nobody really knows right. It could
be something that's interdimensional. They could

518
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.800
be Nefflin. Nobody is expert.
Nobody is expert in this field. If

519
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.480
they they are the full ship,
honestly, what do you think? Do

520
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.559
you think they're pleasure now? Do
you think there's more to them? I

521
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.079
definitely feel like there is more to
these creatures. My faith is a big

522
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:15.880
part of my life, and I
definitely feel like I'm meant to be looking

523
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.760
for these things. I feel like
this is God's purpose for me to be

524
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.039
in this life because I think these
things are the netfhiliw. Honestly, I

525
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.039
may be wrong. Like I said, there's nobody an expert in this field.

526
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.679
When I was thinking about it,
these orbs and stuff. You know,

527
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.079
some people see the orbs with them
and these Nephilim they're racing giants from

528
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.280
the fallen angels and women. They
could be long lost descendants of the nephil

529
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:42.760
them from back in biblical times.
Just the thinking about the orbs and stuff.

530
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.880
Maybe some of the Bigfoot are physically
here and maybe some of them aren't.

531
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:54.199
Maybe these orbs are the Sasquatch and
another dementia or whatever you want to

532
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.719
call it. I've really been looking
into that when I'm sitting here thinking like

533
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.639
nobody else has thought of that yet. Some could be physically trapped here in

534
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:07.639
this world and some of them may
not be. You could definitely be right,

535
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.280
man, that might be a big
crocker crap, but it's definitely something

536
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.079
worth thinking about. I mean,
it opens your mind, just leads to

537
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.840
more questions than answers. Unfortunately.
Yeah, that's what I found with it.

538
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.119
Man, Like I said, you
could be right. I never closed

539
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.199
my mind off to any of that. I'm open as far as other people's

540
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:29.000
theories, people's experiences. Because I
haven't had those experiences doesn't mean that it's

541
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.719
not real. You may be the
one to prove it if you prove it.

542
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.159
Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm gonna admit I'm wrong and

543
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.639
say, yeah, there's something more
to them, but exactly ninety ninety five

544
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:39.920
percent I think they're probably just a
flesh and blood creature of some kinds.

545
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.159
Prove me wrong, man, I
don't want to say that. I do

546
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.360
want to prove you're wrong, but
I'm going to try and frind as much

547
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:50.239
freef as I can, you know, because the cloaking, I just don't.

548
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.519
I don't see how these things can
cloak. Adds more mystery and the

549
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:58.639
portals and all that. It just
makes me open my minds. Crazy stuff

550
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:00.800
for sure, But it was finitely
a great time to not Brian. I'm

551
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.119
glad we got to get this finished
up. Everybody go over and check out

552
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.599
Bigfoot reports and data on Facebook.
I will link to that in the show

553
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.280
notes, and you guys go over
and join. I just joined the group.

554
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:14.320
Show some support to Harley and what
he's got going on. Man,

555
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.079
I really appreciate you coming on and
sharing your experiences. I've had a blast

556
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.679
talking to you. It's been a
great time, my friend. I look

557
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:24.239
forward to being back on the show. They say you don't gotta go home,

558
00:41:25.079 --> 00:42:00.199
but you can't stay. I don't
want to be world out data on

559
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:07.880
that time. Everything. Can you
king back? Joy for me, Joy

560
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:46.199
staying right you can it right away? Still sat side side, stay,

561
00:42:47.000 --> 00:43:24.280
step stops, stas, still start, pass stays and games USTs pass