Yeah that fits. Yeah times, get up the face. Hello ladies and
gentlemen, and welcome back to the Geek First Podcast, the five hundred and
ninety eighth episode of The Geek First Podcast. Just like Josh Wright says,
right there, hell yeah, hell yesh, I am the clown Prince of
Webb's Trust now and I'm joined by I'm Dylan Muss and the July twenty twenty
five. In a day and age. With many odd nicknames that Taylor's had,
that has to be one of the weirdest ones, just because manytimes,
he's just had like beekeeper too, Like I guess it is it. We'll
talk about that. We got a lots a good little old Taylor's brain would
think of that, though. I would never think, all, I'm thinking
that my nickname. No, I would think like, how could I incorporate
July twenty like twenty five in my tub? But never just I'm just going
to be a date. You know. It kind of rhymes a little bit
too, That's why I like it, July twenty twenty five, not it's
I was going for the rhyme, but it's like five in July. Yeah,
that's like orange and door hinge. You know, it's like, that's
pretty good. That's not bad. Actually, I'll take that. You're justified
my point. Well, there you go. Taylor's name rhymes with July,
but uh or whatever. But Taylor, you know how well I can't remember
last we had, don't we have a newscast because I don't think it was
last week the week before. But yeah, we got lots of good stuff
coming up. We have super Bowl coming up this Sunday, so it'll be
all releasing on the Monday. But yeah, we're gonna begining our Deadpool three
trailer. I'm looking really forward to that. That's gonna be That's gonna be
tons of fun. There's a whole list. We got a new apes one
inside Out three, there's some other knuckles randomly, we're gonna knuckles teaser.
Yeah, is it something like so I've said, because I guess I got
the girls. I was gonna say, like, are you and kirklam reviewing
that? Because I'm there for the movies. Because the girls like Sonic enough,
so it's like, okay, I'm gonna see it them. I may
as well sit down. I'm not gonna get my answer from Taylor Field right
now. But uh, I don't think you'll be Deadpool all these cameos.
Do you think we'll see any of these cameos, even the ones that they've
confirmed in the in this first trailer? Or is that something to save or
is that stuff even just save for either like future trailers or the movie itself
mini predictions cast and Deadpool three trailer. Hey, I think this one's all
about Hugh Jackman, So I don't think they if you I think if you
see any other munes, it's already the Deadpool established cast, like Colossus or
Negasonic. Right, I don't think you blow your load here because I guarantee
there's millions I'm not gonna say billions, but at least millions of people that
have no idea Hugh Jackman's back. Right, They're not on the Internet,
they're not on Twitter and stuff. And I think that is a big deal
because I remember, because I'm a geek. So like when I was at
work at my old job, when I worked my old position, when I
worked in the office and I got the no vocation, I was like,
cause any one other guy's a comic watchers like Hugh Jackman's back and everybody in
the room is like, Oh my god, really that's so awesome. I
can't wait. So I think this is all about I think the trailer is
like seventy percent Wade Wilson, Deadpool and his San Dgans, and then thirty
percent is like Hugh jackmanback, Wolverine back, they show off the costume.
So I don't I don't think so. I think trailer two is when you
could start sprinkling those but really, what do they need? Like I just
feel like if Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds doesn't send the like sell the movie,
what is at that point right, Like like it's just seeing Channing Tatum's
gamut to make. Is that gonna make someone buy a ticket? Like I
feel like Deadpool and Hugh Jackman, you're in or you're out. Yeah,
it's true. I feel like a lot of the cameos that we've heard anyway
so far are kind of more deep cut characters. Though you're gonna throw Jennifer
Garner's Electra in there and bright yeah people, But yeah, I think that's
something that you save for the more hardcore fans, save it for the movie
or maybe like a quick shot in a later trailer. But yeah, you're
right, we don't need to hear I think the I think that it's tough
because I think the ones that are the selling points would be those really juicy
ones. And the two that come to mind is, like I said,
Channing Tamum at Channing Tatum. I said it right, Channing Tatum as Gambit
or Chris Evans as human Torch. I think those are the two that like
would get people like, oh my goodness, but do you really want to
show us in the trailer? Channing Tatum would make people pop out of their
seats. Then why do you think that the Gambit specifically or him? Because
I feel like he's not even that hot right now, and like no one
even knew he was Gambit. Yeah, I think you're right. I think
he's not doing two bad. He hit that movie last year that him and
Bullock did Her two years ago was like a big hit. So I guess
maybe you're right where maybe it doesn't sell. I think it would be like,
oh, I like him, he's in there, but you're right,
it probably doesn't sell a ticket. Then then I'll just say Evans is human
Torch because but I think you show Chris Evans and you don't reveal characters he's
playing, because everyone will think it's Cap and then really it's human Torch.
Yeah, because then that I don't know, like you can you can always
show up Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen that always does something. But no,
I honestly would kind of be fine if they took the approach of No Way
Home where just showed Deadpool, Hugh Jackman and nothing else. The same way
we didn't get the three Spider Man like that sells itself. Like the first
two Deadpool movies are massive hits, just with Brian Reynolds, right, So
they didn't show like the the X Men, like the X Men First Class
Crew Cami like, they didn't show those off. So yeah, will you?
Taylor went to Dylan's question, you think we're seeing any other mutes in
the trailer coming up? Oh? I'm I would love to see that.
I really really would. But I feel like I feel like people are just
gonna be looking for that huge Jackman just to see the two of them on
screen. I feel like chances are we could probably get the scenes showcase of
just what the leaked footage was, not lead footage, but the leaked photographs.
I feel like that would be interesting to do a trailer kind of focused
on that, because then at least you're capitalizing what the die hard fans have
already seen and that stuff that the GA has not seen yet. So I
feel like that's a great way to kind of reveal a little bit of stuff
and have a little bit fun because that whole that whole sequence looks like it's
really wacky and kooky with the way that they're interacting in some of those photo
shots. So I think that's a good way to kind of show off and
not have to really dig in and spoil more of what the story is.
Yeah, the other thing I'm curious with is trailer, and I don't think
they will because it's first trailer. Again, I think it's mostly gonna be
Deadpool story than Hugh Jackman. But I'm curious if they make any linkings to
the MCU right Like, do you watch this trailer and just go it's Deadpool
or is it right away like TVA show up, you know, Kevin Foggy
joke something I don't think, so, I think that's more trailer two stuff,
but I think I think you could have a joke that's relevant there.
Yeah, that's about the limit though, because it's crazy. We thought about
like Fox Got Bond twenty eighteen, and we were always like, man,
when Deadpool three, they're gonna make so many jokes, and like they still
can, but that's like like what six years ago. Now, it's like
it just feels like such a distant thing where it's like the jokes are still
relevant, of course, but not to the same extent like they were maybe
a couple of years ago. So yeah, who knows, we'll be talking
about it. I'm excited. Oh yeah, Kurt Taylor, I say,
you and Kirkling you get review knuckles. I mean, I uh, I
think there's a good chance. If Kirkling's down, I'm down. I'm like
a fifty to fifty because the kids will want to watch it, but just
a questionable we'll watch it live. But okay, I was just wondering if
that was just anything that's on the feed, So there go. I don't
know what the date is, but if they have a trailer coming out for
the show, I imagine it must be in the calendar year here, I
would think so. I would think so, because why would you have a
Super Bowl trailer for someone's coming out twenty twenty five. I don't think that's
well and that's just said. I mean, especially with the next movie coming
out December December, so yeah, I guess their their timeline to be with
the show to drop before the movie before December, so I think so.
Yeah, So there you go, Knuckles to get some good things, because
I know, tayl it's been a tough week for you. You know,
a couple of losses. It's been really tough on news. Yeah, you
know x Box Yeah, lots of lots of stuff. I'm not worried about
it. I can still play it, so I don't care. Oh you
didn't hear that's the new news. You can't know no longer you have to
buy a plaation. But yeah, check out the latest sie quest. Mean
Dylan did nearly two and a half hour cast about that. Yeah, in
the state of playing, I'm sure, maybe go get some of Taylor's opinions
next week and uh, some sculling Bone opinions because there's a beta for that.
I saw is Michelle Roriez in the game. What is she talking about?
I don't know where that came from. I was just scrolling and she's
like, I can't wait for sculling bones, Like this is a weird,
like that's just an odd. It be different if they're like this was a
year end of the game, They're like, check out our Dungeons and Dragons
DLC for skull. But it's just like that's such an like I don't picture
miss Schell Rodriguez with pirate stuff. But maybe there's a chance she's a voice
in the game or something, right, that could be. It's yeah,
she's likely did that what fast game, So she's done a game before whatever
you happened in that game. It came out, right, I think it
came out, but yeah, I'd never heard anyone talk about it. It
like was a big like they'd had like a big deal there on stage talking
about it always gonna be the first best just but like it came out and
did nothing. But Taylor, we were talking about this on side quests.
A new draft idea next year is we should do a video game actor draft
where we draft celebrities we think could be in video games, celebrities that could
be in video games. So like like Matthew mcconnae in that game that has
come up, or when Nick Cage went to Dead by Daylight, so you
cast an actor or like Ider Selbyn cyberpunk. They pop up because there's so
many of them nowadays, right, so I like that, that's a good
idea, or like Adeo, you got el Fanning and you got Norman Retas
and all these people, so lead up to dust raining, it's definitely a
good time to do that. Yeah, so look out for that twenty twenty
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At least they'll be doing that. So that's do we have any time?
I know we'll be dropping on the Friday, But do they drop like a
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what is you gotta time drop for Alo? Even I think they did dropped.
I think they were midnight Okay, So like in the afternoon when I
was done work, just sting up tonight. Well, if it's on Thursday,
would be midnight tonight. Right, it's not Thursday. Never mind,
I have my days all mixed up. It's Tuesday. Sorry, that didn't
even cross my mind. Well, yeah, he's probably right. That's where
I met. I thought for some reason it was definitely Wednesday, but it
is not. So Kirkland's not back then, Tomorrow's back the next day,
right, waite he's back tomorrow night, maybe because what I think he did
say he had like a four day quick trip. But yeah, we'll talk
to him on the next bread and butter. Originally, he sounds like him
a fun time. I keep getting updates by Emily who follows Shay on Instagram.
That's how I know his trip's going. So yeah, so there you
go. But let's get in the news. We got a good wide variety
of just different things to talk about. A couple of Patreon questions. Shout
at Maddie seg sending it at the ninth inning right before just all three.
But I'm very excited to talk about them. But Madam Webb is next week
we will be reviewing that. That'll actually be our six hundredth episode, so
look up for that. Taya's gonna miss that one, but he'll be on
Halo. He's very excited for Halo. But Taya, at some point you're
gonna see, well, I think you. Is there a chance that if
enough people, because you're not gonna see Madame Webb the night of and be
on the review, is there a chance that if enough people maybe kind of
pooh poo it or or negative, that you might be like, ah,
I'll wait for home because you did that with Morbius. You waited for Morbiy's
you didn't go to the theater. So like with Madam Webb, do you
feel like, if there's enough people going, if you're on it, or
is this one that you're sold on that at some point in the Eater's Cheap
Tuesday you'll get around to seeing I'm sold. There's like so many just spider
figures in this movie. I'm that just has me super stoked. I want
to know what more about Ezekiel. I just want to see these characters and
see their suits and just see them pop off. The fact that this is
all in the same universe as Venom and Craven. No, it's not like
it's not. Well the producer director said, it's its own standalone universe.
Oh shit. I think that has to do with the whole thing that they
messed up we talked about couple of weeks ago. Were you on that newscast
when we talked about the whole the timeline where they made it in Andrews World
like in the nineties, and then they tried to make in the two thousands,
and then they just kind of scrapped it all. And I guess that's
what they've been saying. It's just in its own universe. But Madam Webb,
could she can transfer like universes and stuff, so she could be like
a doctor, change pop over, say hi to Tom Hardy. But don't
expect connections of those movies in this one. I don't think. Okay,
well, that's good to know. Then I thought that was but he's okay,
I'm out now. No, I'm so excited. I'm just excited to
see like the Spider characters and everything, and yeah, just I don't think
I'm in at whatever. I want to consider waiting a year long because the
memes and spoilers and everything kind of came out for Morbius and I feel like
so much negativity and kind of hate surrounding it made my expectations go down.
But when I watched it, I had a fun time watching it. I
actually enjoyed it. So, okay, well there you go, mister Patzers.
Wednesday. It's Wednesday. I'm gonna pull Tator. What was what was
the question when you get you excited? Oh? Yeah, I'm excited.
I got my ticket. That hood, that hood is gonna you know,
No, I mean, you know, I think it's fair to ask Taylor
beg as this guy's he doesn't even have plans. But he's like, I'm
like busy, but it's like you don't have plans, like come do the
review with us, Like do you have no madness? I got my tickets.
I'm there at seven pm. I was trying to do four pm,
but Muz wasn't having it. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm in there.
I can't wait for this one. I I it's like, yeah, she's
like she's into it, she wants to see it, So I'm I'm excited.
I don't know what it is about it, but I just thought it
was an odd dynamic if she wasn't seeing it, and but she wasn't letting
you see it four, so I had questions, But it all makes sense
that she's seeing it so she wanted to go granted, Yeah, makes sense.
Josh Wright says, if it wasn't Spider Man, I would not be
rushing to watch. Is probably the worst trailer for a combat movie ever.
Who that's a tough one. I have to go through the Anamal's history.
I think the only ones they'd probably put it above that are ones that just
fully spoil all the plot. Maybe that's ones I'd have to look at,
Like I think that bvs. Second trailer was really bad. That's when they
feel like that's a good good Yeah, Wonder Woman and Doomsday like that.
So there's probably other ones. You're right then maybe it's like it looks cheap
or looks like a bad trailer, but there's a couple that have probably just
spoiled. Like I think one of those Spiderman Homecoming ones was like that too,
where they just showed the entire movie almost beat for b is like,
oh man, So yeah, no, I'm not excited. I'm excited enough
to go watch this. But because Kirklen we'll be seeing on the West Side
Taylor's not seeing it and Emily won't be seeing it. This is one of
those like I was so happy Emily was with me for morevious because I had
a good time with her. But it's just gonna be depressing because I'm gonna
be the theater alone watching this movie, and just like that, I'm not
looking forward too because I'm just like, uh so, I'm gonna be getting
some big buckets of bop war I wanted. Tickets were grabbed up in my
theater when I was when I was getting mine. Let's take a look because
we're gonna talk about Box Theater five sed Auditorium. But yeah, but a
good chunk of it was taken up. I had to go a little closer
than I'm used to, Okay, because yeah, Manny has some questions about
Box, I'll still talk, but but yeah, no, I'm not excited.
As I've said before, I see this because I love the combook genre.
I don't want to go away, so I will support it, even
though the tracking this is not great. But oh there's one at six twenty.
They that's weird. At Grand ten, there was one at seven,
and now there's one at six twenty. So we'll see I might do that
six two twenty one. It gives me time to bust it back. And
that one has nobody. So the seven twenty an has four and the nine
to fifty is nobody. So right now four tickets are sold for Madam Web
less than a week or a week away here in Kelowna at the opening night.
So there you go. So yeah, no, I guess I'm like
just hoping for so bad it's good. Actually I don't know. I guess
I'm hoping that, yeah, it's great, but they're not all they're not
letting the review or sorry. Their review embargo is the day before. It's
like one pm in the afternoon, so it's like, we know what's happening.
We've been here before with these Sony movies. So the fact that I
have no faith that it'll be a surprise hit, it's just I got to
hope that it's so bad it's so good and maybe some cool action scene.
That's what I maybe hopeful is just some cool stuff, some cool time travel
stuff, some cool action stuff. I would love because maybe I'll just bring
this question here before the box office. I would love to be completely wrong
about the suit screen time. I don't want to just be a couple minutes
of like dream sequences or flashbacks. I'd love it if, like the third
act, they're all in there's suits kicking ass, but I don't so.
My theory is, I'm saying it's gonna be under five minutes. If we
want to prices right it, I'll say it'll be, uh four minutes in
nineteen seconds for the time they're in their suits. That's what I'm going with.
Wow, Okay, yeah, I'll go, I'll go higher. I'll
go I'm gonna go. I'm gonna sway high on this. I'm gonna go
for twelve minutes and twelve seconds, actually twelve minutes and twenty one seconds.
I hope you're right, tear Field, how much time you go in the
suits. I think you're right, Travis. But I'll be optimistic, but
not as optimistic as theill. I'm gonna go eight minutes, eight minutes.
Good, Okay, that's good. Would you say, oh an eight second
eight seconds? Like wow, that's really bad, but okay good. I
like that. So yeah, we'll see because I was a big debate at
that trailer and uh yeah, so I'll bring in Matty says question because he
asked something, but we're gonna talk about box office in general, so he
frames it in a good way. So we'll talk about the box office predictions
and also answer his question. Hit'll be a patron. You can send a
question at any time or when we do news. If Madame web baumbs,
do you think Sony will pull the plug again on el Maretto? Please correct
me if I'm wrong. Apart from the Venom films, it doesn't seem like
these Sony films without Spiderman do well financially, so I can't understand how they
justify continuously making them, especially when the critical reception is also equally disappointment.
Apart from Craven Slash, Sony or Vanom, do they have any others in
development? To answer that question, I don't, so they do. That
was a part of the report last week that el Maretto is. Apparently it's
still in development, so that's one, and I think there's still that like
that. I can't remember his name, but Donald Glover was producing, maybe
writing, starring in that was like some sort of Spiderman villain that uses music
or something like that, but I think it was gonna Yeah, but I
think that's gonna be completely separate. But I think the rumor is that's still
in development, so they just for live action, they just have those too.
Also, you know the Spider Verse saying is there's been rumors for Spider
Gwen. We got that rumored rated R we talked about a couple of weeks
ago. There's more stuff that came out. I didn't put in the notes,
but that rumored Radar animated film supposedly as a Venom animated rated R film.
So that makes me a little more okay, agreeable because Venom versus Spider
Man. So yeah, there you go. Hype No Hustler, thank you
very much. Arn Yeah, that was the one. So that those are
the only two is Hype No Hustler and El Marito. But I don't think
either of them see the light of day, to be honest, I really
don't. Hmmm. Yeah, those ones definitely are more deep cuts than even
Madame Webb. Yeah, she's a pretty big deep cut. But then when
you bring in big stars like they have, Oh they have a couple of
big stars for this, that will push the envelope a little bit. But
these are deep cuts, like it goes through the whole body. It doesn't
even it's like a Pierce now like a ton of other spidy villains you could
go to before you get to those guys like we we haven't even heard of
it. Well, I haven't heard of those characters before. I had never
hear I'd heard of El Marito, I'd never heard of Hype No Hustler.
Like I was like, who is that? You know? And I get
Don Glover, you know, he's a big star, but sometimes me like,
ah, should we let him do this? Like just let him do
like a just get that Miles Miles Morales movie, going have him play the
Prowler, Like that's what he should be doing, not Hype No Hustler.
Yeah yeah, I mean I I think we'll have to just wait and see,
because go into Maddie's question of like yeah, cause the two Venom movies
were successful, yeah even, And then Morbius is like our only other one
that's come out really like if you want to count Spider Verse in there,
like that's not in this Sony verse, but it's still like under Sony and
those are those do fine, right, But like Morbius is the only one
we have, and from what I could find on the good old Google Search
here like cost eighty million, May one hundred and sixty seven million. Yeah,
so the hype broke even Yeah yeah, so yeah, I guess if
you factor in the whatever marketing costs and whatnot, who knows. Yeah,
And we never know, right because sometimes some people's it could be double,
sometimes it could be half. But even then it's like it made the money.
So that's the thing where it's like, I guess if they viewed as
you never know what the barometer is, right, Because I was talking about
the GA guys, I'm gonna bring up play when we talk about Drastic World,
it's like, oh, what do you think Warner Brothers want Superman to
do? And to me, it's like for me when I see Warner Bros.
Making a Superman movie, I don't think they want to be like,
oh, just make a profit. I think they want to be like a
huge success. Right, So if Sony's ideas, let's just make these movies
and if they're profitable that's a win, then I think they'll keep doing them
for a while as long as the same thing with that and Web, I
think the rumored budget is supposed to be like Morbius, like around sixty eighty
million, so it's like it's not breaking the bank. It is smaller.
The rumored box office projections right now is twenty to thirty million for the opening
weekend, so it's gonna come in under Morbius. So I think it could
have a run kind of similar, maybe less then, but I guess it's
just if it's obvious. Had the memes too, didn't it? I kind
of it did. Yeah, I think this could get some memes after opening
weekend though, too. I could see some stuff like had tons of fun
with my mum was researching spiders in the Amazon before she died moment. Yeah,
and I could think there's just a I don't know that it's a huge
audiences there, but I feel like there is in earnest more people interested in
this one. I agree, Oh if it's more because it's like a movie
focused on these women characters and it's I don't know, a different kind of
story than we're we've seen a few times. The two stars I think as
well too, whether you got to Cood Johnson Sidney Sweeney, I think you'll
both like those actresses, So there's a little more. So that's why maybe
it'll you know, right now, it's twenty to thirty and morebus open at
thirty nine, so that's only nine million away. If you I was gonna
say, get some good word of mouth, but I don't think that'll happen.
So I guess we'll have. It'll be interesting conversation. We'll have to
go back at the end of the year because I think Venom will do well,
but I think it will do least. It'll be below the first two,
and Craven I don't think will do well. I don't think the rateed
R will actually help it. So that's a good point. Yeah, yeah,
so I don't know. Again, I've said before that I hope the
movie's kind of I don't know if I want them tank, I kind of
want them. I want to pivot. I want them to look at this
and go, clearly, these aren't working, let's change it up. Even
if it is like what you're saying, Dylan, of like start going like
especially mcu, I don't think they're gonna use Goblin. I don't think they're
gonna use Norman Osborne. Like not that I need like a Green Gobblin movie,
but get a great screenwriter and figure it out. Like i'd take a
green Gobble movie over the hypno Hustler or el Moretto, you know, or
hobgob like something. Even then, like I feel like Doc Awk, you
could do something great with that character of like a Frankenstein sort of creating the
arms and turns into a monsters sort of way. You know. So what
about you, day, What do you think is you think if this has
like another like Morbious esque where it's like, you know, kind of a
disappointment but not a ball. I'm like, I don't know, It's like
it makes money, but just it's not a huge hit. Like do you
think these films can change trajectory or you think so it's just gonna you know,
they've been doing this since Venom and they're just gonna keep trucking along and
just like yah, let's do another one. Let's do another one, as
long as they keep these budgets relatively low. I I just don't get it,
Like it feels like you need to strive for that, like wow,
that bizarre, like you got to get people in those seats, and it
just feels like they're just using money and just pumping content out to this degree.
And it's, uh, it's unfortunate because I feel like at the same
time, it could. I haven't seen the movie, so it's hard for
me to say this and justify at this point because it's only an assumption.
But it's just lackluster storytelling, Like are they what what? I would love
to be a fly on the wall and just see what they are talking about
in these rooms when they have people writing the story and just all we're gonna
do this and that, Like, is there a lot of passion behind it?
Is there a lot of like heart and soul invested in that? Because
so, and that's that's very unfortunate, because you're dealing with characters that are
at least have the potential to be really really uh engaging and oneerful for the
audience to view these stories with. And so, I mean, that's one
of the reasons why we love our og Avengers and and other MCU characters because
they write them really well. There's some passionate soul in that. And I'm
not saying like the actors and actresses are delivering that. I'm sure like Dakota
Johnson and co. Are all giving it. They're all in these performances.
But you can only give you all so much because We've seen what lackluster writing
can do and can have an effect. So yeah, so in that sense,
what do you guys think? And I'll write these down because my goal
is in the new year to try to be more on the predictions so when
we get to their view, because we always do predictions, but unlike the
drafts and stuff, we never come back to them, you know, we're
never like you know, they're out there. So my goal in twenty twenty
four is now to keep those and the screen time we won't really know until
later on because like we've got to see the movie and we won't have exact
but we can kind of talk about it. What do you guys think is
gonna be opening weekend? Like I said, to put in perspective more,
Wea's open with thirty nine million. Projections right now are twenty to thirty million.
I'm swinging high again. I'll go for that thirty. I'll go for
thirty one, thirty one for Dylan Taylor because this also has an extra day,
right it comes out a day earlier, comes out Wednesday on Valentine's Big
Valentine's Day movie could be Yeah, not a lot of competition right now.
I'll say twenty eight, Well, Taylor's thinking, I'll say, just under
the thirty twenty five, twenty five, Oh my god, whoa. Okay,
So then obviously we're a little lower on those. But do any of
you think that it will pass Morbius that Dylan said it was like one sixty
seven, right, That's what it was. That's what it was. Yeah,
I'm I'm rare my my brahmer for this. I feel like it's gonna
be within fifteen million of Morbius. Oh okay, but I don't know if
that's higher or lower. And so I'm just gonna stick with my theme.
My theme is swinging high, So I'll go high. I'll I'll go I'll
go ones one's seventy two and seventy two said and done because what comes out?
So Madam Web comes up. Bob Marley is the same day, so
it's different audience. It's oh man, next week or two weeks after it
is Drive Away Dolls. I hope Colon actually gets that. But so you
got that, and then you got Dune. I'm gonna say, I'm Dune.
It's two weeks away. Really, wow, it's so close it is,
Okay, So no, it's two weeks away from Manna Webberley, so
right now for us it's three weeks, but like for when Madam Webb comes
out, it has two weeks. So I'm gott to rewatch done one here,
I get ready, my god, it's coming up. I went to
go play Dune and Spice Wars because I was killed some time and I have.
I saw there was a tutorial and I went, no, I'm not
going to do that because I downloaded a bunch of games pass because I just
booted it up and I was like, there's way too much here. I
need to do the like the learning tutorial stuff. It's not easy to pick
up and play. Yes, So that's why I realized its not going to
do that. So I'm gonna go one sixty. Sorry are you you're not
gonna try it at all? Or just right now? You're right now?
Yeah? Right now, I'll go yeah. Then yeah, I'm not just
like giving things right to certainly. Yeah. Yeah. I thought I'll come
back to when Dune's I'll get that hype and stuff. I was. I
was just looking for a drop and play of like Ellie was asleep on my
chest. I'm like, okay, what can I do here. It's like,
oh Dune. I was like, No, that was not the thing.
So I'm gonna say one fifty five. That's what I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna say it's gonna go under. I thought if Dune wasn't so close,
there could be a chance. Maybe there's some like I won't say word
of mouth, but just like oh to go to Johnson Sidney Sweenys. Then
a movie like that's like if there was less good movies out or bigger movies.
But I'll say one fifty Yeah, didn't anyone anyone, but you just
crushed it at Ball. Yeah, Sweeney Hypes. That just passed one fifty
and that movie. I mean, come on, like, I'm gonna change
and go one forty five. Actually I'm gonna go lower. I think one
I go one forty five. So so I'm on forty five, dyal,
what were you? Seventy two? Tear overall? Oh, I'm going one
thirty five, one thirty five. It was very confident. There we go.
Does anybody, I guess we can talk about the film. Does anybody
as usual die in this movie? We got four spider women, we got
what we presume is Ben Parker or sorry, Yeah, Ben Parker looks like
Uncle Ben looks like Emma Roberts is carrying the baby Peter Parker were assuming any
though, Man, if we get the scene of Uncle Ben getting shot again,
Oh no, I hope they don't go that route. You know what,
Actually they could if man would like flash forward in the future and see
something, I could I you know, I'm gonna say that the villain and
Uncle Ben are gonna die. That's I mean, like they could die.
And then she goes back in time and they're not dead. No, I'm
gonna say that. It's gonna be like by the end of the movie,
I think, Okay, So then no, she I think she'll see a
vision of Uncle Ben dying, but uh, what's his name, Scott will
not be dead by time the end will save She'll save him. Yeah,
or she'll just know that's his future. She'll just know that this man is
gonna die at some point. But it's for the greater good. It's for
great power comes great responsibility, right, may sually even say that to him.
So she has great power and her responsibility should be to act on it.
But in this case, she's like, I'm not gonna act on it,
because you know, she could be like Miguel right, canon event can
interrupt, But yeah, I'll say, I'll say just the villain. I'll
say, you know, the civilians. But yeah, I think just the
villain. I don't think we're gonna losing the main Spider people also are losing
That was mom at some point. It sounds like the Mom in the Woods.
No, I don't think anyone's dying. I don't think any of the
main crew. And I think they'll keep the villain. Yes, like maybe
it's a universe thing. Maybe it's not a universe thing, but it sounds
like they didn't necessarily know that from the start or when this movie is being
written, and I think they even from the Sony perspective, they say,
hey, maybe maybe keep him alive technically, even if you just scraping by
there, and then we can do something with them later if they want to.
So I think I think everyone is surviving this. Uncle Ben could be
the one that goes, but I'm gonna ahead and say that this movie has
more positive twist on things, and she's gonna save him or keep him alive
at least for the time being. They kill if Baby Peter Parker gonna be
as bold as that, that would be. That would be wild opening scene
for a flash putting the babies. Yeah, what about you tear anybody dying?
Oh? I mean I could feel like I could see Ezekiel passing,
But again, I don't know a lot about the he's gonna pass away,
not even a just I just don't know enough about these characters and how prominent
they are to say, like, I feel like all the leading ladies are
all gonna be safe. Yeah, maybe one could get like injured, but
I think she'll bounce back on the final power or something. I don't know,
But I will also make the prediction that someone will get injured. I
agree with that one. We'll see some blood. We'll see a bruiser too.
Yeah, I like that. A couple of hang nails. Yeah,
all right, let's take our last break and then we'll get into the final
prediction, and then Taylor, of course we'll have some chat GPT goodness of
a Madam web thing. So we'll be right back. And we're back,
so finally, so I will confirm this because we've talked about the discord.
But of course lots of things happen, So you guys might have forgot that
there's no end cred scenes confirmed. There's no end cred scene. So that's
why I was gonna ask you, will there be any Spider Man connections?
And I don't mean just like it's in New York, you see like anything
really alluding to something, because sure it's its own universe, but like we
talked about, Madam Webb could be like a doctor Strange type character, see
multiple timelines things like that. Do we see anything like across the Spider Verse
where it's like, oh, you see Andrew Garfield, but it's not new
footage, it's the old movie, right, Like? Do you think we
get other than the rumored Uncle Ben, you know, Peter Parker, Baby,
any other connections, illusions, flashbacks showing footage of the past, or
do you think we've gone everything we have? I I think all we're gonna
hear the name Peter Guess this movie it's gonna be ambiguous. And maybe that's
too easy for a coppup because we already know about these other characters that you
just mentioned. But that, to me, that's like the limit. Though
I don't I don't think we're going past that at all. I think we'll
just maybe hear the name Peter and they might even not even say Parker with
it. They'll just say Peter and you can kind of think it up and
maybe a sequel bait that kind of thing, even if it's not a post
credit. But yeah, that's my that's my vote. There might be a
bit boring, but I just think that's how it's gonna be. It'll be
some dumb shit where they're talking about baby names and they're just like, oh,
I've always had a good name Peter, and then like that, you
know, b Parker. Yeah, yeah, goes the credits and stuff.
Do you think because I'm pretty much actually in agreeent with you that I think
when they said the whole there's not it's not connected. I think when you
see other universe stuff, I bet what they might do is you see other
universe stuff with their characters, so like oh, what Sidney Sweeney is doing
in another universe or something like that, And that's where I think even those
coutumes come in. That's gonna be like, oh, in the future,
they become these spider women so powerful, Like I think they'll use our characters.
The only one that I think legitimately could have some connection because I think
it's always Needsy on a pull is I think you could hear the voice of
j Jonah Jameson because like JK. Simmons is just in a bunch of stuff
and his voice is just it's just the voice, and like you wouldn't pick
up is this ninety two thousand. It's like he's in the Toby films.
He's in the home films they've thrown out. It's like JK gets a pass.
So maybe of like, yeah, Madam Webb's watching TV and you hear
Jonah, like, oh, there's a lot of Spider sightings from the Amazon,
you know, and look out for that, like you know, which
I don't even know what Madame Webb's name is, you know, like I
don't know, like her just regular human name. Does she have one?
I don't think she must, right, Yeah, so I think Jonah's the
only chance better than that. I don't think much. Okay, Taylor,
repeat the question. Please you see any Spider Man connections in this movie?
Yes, Thumbnil coming along. I haven't seen it yet in the coming Sorry,
I was just getting the the AI prepped. Any Spider Man relation other
than like someone like the May Parker, Peter Parker. God, what's his
Oh, I'm forgetting his mom's name. Peter Parker. Josh is carrying the
baby Peter Parker. So not those ones, we know those could be around.
I think you hear Parker. I think you'll you'll hear it in some
shape or form. I don't know. We'll know what family member that is.
That's over my head. I don't know, but you'll you'll definitely hear
the word and the name Parker. Just Parker, just Parker. There you
go, you're ready over there too? And this does anyone have any other
predictions or something I want to shut out? No, I don't think this
is gonna be that crazy of a movie, you know, there's not there's
not too many wild predictions to make, especially because post credit that's where you
can get freaky with it. But if we don't have one of those,
then yeah, I think they maybe had that plan. And then I think
a lot that might have been thrown to the wayside of like, let's just
put it out. There's like a movie, because like, you can't get
much crazier than the morevius post credit, you know, Michael Keene transport to
another universe. Yeah, got out of prison something to a spider man hinted
the Sinister six like there was a lot in one. So yeah, all
right, tare laid on us? What did you what did you ask?
Chat GPT No no, no, no, we're good, We're good.
I kind of was like trying to like fine tune in a little bit more.
So, let's see write me a movie story based on the Marvel character
Madame Webb. And I wanted to like really be like specific here because I
wasn't sure if it would know to pull in what we've seen in the trailer.
So I said, include characters like Julie Carpenter, Anya Krasin, Mattie
Franklin, have Ezekiel appear as a villain. And then I just said add
other Sony Marvel characters in there too, because I thought that was in the
same universe. But nice, that's fine, word will be Yeah, so
I put in like be unexpected, surprise us, other wild characters cameos stuff
like that. So you say, making an Oscar winner, making an Oscar
winner, Yeah, I'm all sitting at the table together talking, yes,
So that creates an Oscar winners. Characters at the table talking formula. Taylor
sees that oscar bait movie can't you can't see that? So title coincidentally Web
the Shadows. Decades ago, the brilliant scientist Cassandra Webb met Peter Parker during
a tumultuous period of his superhero career. Drawn together by a shared curiosity about
the arcane and an experiment involving real spiders, their lives took a dark term
when the convergence of mystic forces and scientific inquiry granted Cassandra her extraordinary powers.
Now has been m Webb, she peers into the tapestry of fate intertwined with
the very essence of the Spider Verse. In present day, in New York
City, the Spider women, Julia Carpenter on Your Cresin and Maddie Franklin navigate
the complexities of their personal and superior lives. Madame Webb, aware of an
impending threat, guides them with cryptic visions. Meanwhile, Peter Parker, aged
and weary, contemplates a quiet retirement until the shadows of his past re emerge.
So you know he's old, yeah, And why would people send like
these visions? Why they always gonna be cryptic? Just send a very clear
and like concise vision, just saying, yeah, that way, it's you
know, you can stop the threat before it happens. Yeah, they gotta
be mysterious, just saying, uh, Ezekiel wants a mentor. Now turned
villain forms alliances with dark entities, including Morbius, Venom, and Craven not
whoa Okay, so before the Craven movie. Yeah, it's a big setup
for Craven stores as a villain and culture that post credit mend Yeah, Van
and Morris. Okay, that's a that's a nice little that's like, that's
what's for it. It's what's that percentage? Eighty eighty eight? So what's
five out of six? Probably ninety I feel like eighties pretty no, eighties
pretty high. Let's do some quick math here. Let's see that was quick
math. That's use a couggler. Sixty six percent. So we have sixty
six percent of this too low, We have sixty six percent of the sinister
six. We're here. We just need to more members and we're all set.
Okay, no hypo guy in there. Yeah. A sinster sinister plot
unfolds as intimate relationships blur the lines between here on villain Julia Carpenter, haunted
by her past, discovers a connection but to Morbius that threatens to unravel her
sense of duty, whatever that means. Anya kres and grapples with conflicting emotions,
torn between her responsibilities as a hero and the mysterious allure of venom.
Oh shit, oh wow, there's a lot of like, like the someone
has some connections with morvious, the allure of venom? Like what's going on
here? Already to fuck? Yeah, it's a spicy, spicy Balentine's Day.
Yeah yeah. Matty Franklin, driven by a desire for redemption, seeks
guidance from an aging Peter Parker, unaware of the web of deceit that surrounds
them. Aren't we all aging? Though? Like they said they they said
aging twice. It's like we're all aging. He's aging and weary. I
remember. Don't forget about that old retiree. Uh. The battles that ensue
are brutal and violent, as the Gusts clashed with the Formidable Alliance led by
Ezekiel. Unexpected cameos add to the chaos with the likes of Craven's half brother,
the enigmatic Chameleon Yeah, that's a guy. That's the thing. You
don't know, the Chameleon. I've never heard of the chameleon. Oh,
it's surprised. We've never seen him in live action in any way. Right,
we're gonna in Summer reason the Craven movie. No legit, he's in
a Craven movie. Yeah, oh shit, he plays he's someone from White
Lotus Dill and you'd see the actor and apparently he's really good in that.
So I forgot, uh that they were related. Yeah, I don't like
it. It's really it feels like a stretch, like just like, oh,
I don't know if they were may related from the origin but from what
I know, But yeah, he is a shape shifter tailor. Sometimes it's
been like Mission Impossible style. Sometimes it's been like in the anime show he
had this belt that would just transform him into another person. So either way,
he's like clay Face where there's multiple versions of how he changes in other
people. That's cool. And the Relentless Hunter Silver Sable ah yes movie right
now making surprise appearances. The city becomes a battleground with web shadows and blood
intertwining in a macabre micawber dance Macaber just Macob macob Admidst the chaos, Madame
Webb's cryptic visions become clear. Ezekiel's Planetvoll is pulling real spiders from the very
fabric of existence. What amplifying their power to cataclismic levels? I mean,
I got a rock. So my plan is to find real spiders and give
them the apocalyptic Powers's damn. As Zeroes grappled with this revelation, a heartbreaking
sacrifice occurs among them, leaving the Spider Women forever changed. Peter Parker,
reluctantly drawn back into the fight, joins the Spider Women for a climactic showdown.
We don't know who made a sacrifice, just doesn't specify somebody culminating in
a violent clash that echoes with the echoes, echoes with the echoes of betrayal,
death, echo, and sacrifice. In the aftermath, Madame Web whispers
cryptic words about uncertain just what it sees the dangerous past. A spectral figure
merges a remnant from Madame Webb's past. The figure reveals that the true weather
of shadows has only just begun to unravel. Sit in the stage for an
uncertain future filled with unforeseen alliances, revelations, and the echoes of intimate relationships
that have forever altered the Spider verse. Wow, I feel like gpt throw
in the towel at the end there the few sentences was and even the grammar
was getting it was getting pretty wonky. That's pretty uncommon, the echoes of
echoes, the echoes. That was my fair one. That echoes of the
echoes. Yeah, did this one have a nice postcrets see with all those
surprises and characters talk for about a minute here, I'm just gonna quickly type
it in for about a minute, my goodness. Yeah. So yeah,
I don't think, as we talked about before, I'm not gonna be getting
any of those cameos and stuff, and even Craven. I don't think that'll
be happening coming up. Because we got we got Chameleon, and we got
Rhino. I feel like I'm pretty satisfied with my Spider quote of characters there,
you know, because Rhino we just seen the trailer like a guy turning
into Rhino. We don't say the full thing. So yeah, yeah,
I I've seen that trailer with the Rhino. I probably talked about it and
forgot. Yeah, I think so, Yeah, it happens at the very
end, but I guess we're just doing anything. We're gonna get to the
point where we've just got to a man in a rhino suit because we got
pulled you Bony in a metal rhino suit, and now Craven, we're getting
a person that turned into a rhino. But like the class experiment where it's
just a dude some sort of yeah someday some day, yes, someday,
yes, yeah, with alternate realities and universes or like shadows of Shadows Spider.
I guess Spider Verse, uh part two had like an actual rhino in
there. Yeah, that's true, he was in there. But I think
that could be fun that they they would do that kind of rhino. I
think, yeah, meymore, Maybe maybe we'll get him in the well,
I get yeah, I get so, I want live action. I want
to see someone live action in that suit. But I'll probably just be like
Juggernaut, well the like in Deadpool where it's just a big cgi person.
You know, that's more likely. Unfortunately, yeah, because it's pretty Brown's
big. I mean, everything you know, comes and goes, style changes
here there, and I feel like eventually with comic book movies, we'll get
to a point where that'll be cool to do that again. You have people
in weird suits like that instead of the big CGI beasts. So someday,
I just don't think it'll be anytime soon. Yeah, but give it thirty
years, Yeah for sure, thirty years east until it goes public domain.
Then we can do it, and then oh yeah, all of us will
be fighting over who's gonna play Rhino? Can all take a turn? Uh?
I was kind of blunt with it. Was just one thing I added
in here because I wanted to force chat GPT's hand amidst doing that thing where
someone's in the shadows, but I won't reveal who's in the shadows is doing
that thing. No, no, I I forced its hand before it could
do that. Amidst the lingering echoes of the recent battles, the city scape
of New York is eerily quiet. The camera zoom's in on a dark alley
with a shimmering glow of a dimensional rift materializes. A figure steps through,
revealing the unmistakable silhouette of Andrew Garfield, spider Man on displaced from another universe.
I love Andrew Garfield, but I don't know his figure that well,
but okay, fair enough, so it's a pretty interesting figure. In knowing
home, I would say, I guess. So there you go. Andrew
Spider Man, disoriented but resolute, glances around unfamiliar surroundings. Before he can
fully comprehend the situation, a voice echoes from the shadows, Welcome to the
Web of Destiny, Spider Man. We've been expecting you. The camera pans
to reveal Madam Web her spectral form of observing Andrew with a knowing gaze.
Cut to another dimension, where Miles Morales, the young Spider Man from an
alternate reality, swings through the vibrant city skeep of his own New York.
He receives a mysterious signal on a spider Sense, drawing him towards a convergence
point. Back in the primary dimension, a portal opens up, and Miguel
Overa Spider Man twenty ninety nine steps through with purpose. He surveys the aftermath
of the recent chaos and exchanges a now with Madame Web, and then she
says, the threads of fate have brought us together, Spider People. The
shadows of the past have birthed the new threat and the Web of Destiny requires
heroes like never before. The trio of Spider People Andrew Garfield, Miles Morales
and Spider Man twenty ninety nine. I like how it refers to Andrew Garfield
as him that Miles Morales well, because there's no live action actors maybe right
as those two, So that's why they have If that's easy to ask,
you should ask who they who cast? Who got cast? Yeah? Do
that after Yeah, I will exchange glances. But under on the gravity of
Mandam Webs orbs, she says, the darkness loves in the horizon, one
that transcends dimensions. We must do nite against this new threat to protect not
just our worlds with the entire Spider Verse. The camera zooms that were revealing
the Spider Quartet uh standing together, poised to face the unknown. So they
just shafted all the Spider ladies it looks like and it's just not a web
with the Spider Man. Yeah, well not even have one of them.
The team. Well, I guess Madam Web's there, right, So she's
there, so the next team. Honestly, though, even if it was
a ship movie, if we got Dakota Johnson and credit which we don't have
an end credit, but Andrew Garfield walked through then with the live action Miles
and Spider Man twenty twenty nine or twenty nine nine, that would be a
really hype end credit, Like that'd be at least a movie I'd be excited
to see, you know, like that right there, that quad. I
bet, okay, give me this. As we said before, why are
we not doing if you're gonna do these Sony movies, give me more Spider
people, you know, which, I guess we're getting a little bit of
Madam Webb, but give me some of that action. So yeah. Also,
I we're so used to the dimly lit rooms or dimly lit basements,
but whatever. This time we got a dark alleyway instead, So I like
that. It's still it's still in that realm, but it's a little bit
different, a little more fitting for this. So I'm proud of mister gpt
there. Now we're also thought it was gonna take place you just like an
alleyway. Though for Madam Webb it's like, you know, very powerful character
man. Though it makes a lot of sense, a little ali, little
ali alleyways in that in those movies. True Taylor you got actor for Miguel
and Miles. Yet it's it's fucking with me now it's being it's uh,
oh doing that thing. I'm gonna trick it. I'm gonna trick it.
So talk for about thirty seconds. I feel like it's gonna just default Oscar
Isaac for twenty ninety nine. I feel like that's gonna be right. And
you think it would grab what is need more? Yeah? Maybe I hope
not, just because the age wouldn't really line up. But maybe you know,
well, my I was supposed to be like in high school. I
think Shamik's like in his thirties, So I don't think I think so I
could be wrong. Maybe it sounds like a high schooler. Yes, they
do a good job with that. Maybe he's late twenties. Maybe he's your
guys age. I've never seen him. He's yeah, he's my age in
nineteen ninety five, so he's yeah, okay, so I'm gonna pop pop
this up. So it's saying uh for Miles Morales, Caleb McLachlin, is
that the Stranger Things kid, that's the Stranger Thing? Yeah, that's a
Poplar fan cast, So I'd be down for that. Yeah, that makes
sense, okay, and then the second pick was Solo Meriduanna as Blue Beetles.
Yeah. I think he's gonna be a little busy. He's doing he's
a little more gravitas. Yeah, but yeah, I think the Jacob guy
has it though, what's he busy with? He's still Blue Beetle. He's
gonna really okay, Yeah, they're keeping on. Everyone was cut from that.
Well, no, they kept vild Deist, right, he's keeping Jones,
you know, so he's he's in corporate well Cobra Kai's ending but uh
he he him and Gunn have said that he's sticking around in DC. They
liked him so and you didn't see Blue Beetle, but they specifically took out
any d C references. So they'll say, like Batman, but you don't
see a Batman, you don't see the logo, so could it's just the
general sense of Batman, so you can work it in. For Miguel O'Hara,
first pick is Oscar Isaac yep, and then second pick Diego Luna.
Oh, I'd like that. I like that'd be good, that'd be fun.
Oh yeah, madam, come on and or yeah actually yeah, no,
don't you haven't seen the solo that so that was for Miles. Yeah,
well for Miles, that was was for Miguel. That yeah, Diego
Luna and Oscar. No, we're talking about Zolo who flew beetle. That
was Miguel, Yeah, it was remember Miles. Well yeah, he's Puerto
Rican slash African. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's why I meant with
the gravit toss thing. I thought he didn't have the gravit house for twenty
nine to nine, but okay, I agree with you, and even then
too with the guy. For Miles, I don't know if he saw lasting
season of Stranger Things, but he really brought it, so I think he's
Yeah, he's a great pick. Yeah, I kind of forgot about it
because I haven't watched that show in a while. But that, yeah,
well maybe we'll see. Our review will be next week. Check it out.
I don't think it's gonna be as exciting as that chat GPT, the
web quardrette or whatever. I don't think we're getting those, but you never
know, maybebe we'll because yeah, exactly, let's take our next break.
Then we're talking about some Daredevil, so we'll be right back and we're back,
so dared. Also, I'm gonna bring up some photos here. So
they've been shooting Born again. Uh. The good thing is if people have
been spoiled because they had stuff out there with Karen and Foggy on the set.
They shot multiple scenes with multiple endings. So it's a good thing because
for a while there was an errative going around last night of a certain thing
happening. But then today they shot it in reverse and they shot them another
version, so they were smart where they're like, Okay, we're in public,
We're just gonna shoot a bunch of versions of the scene, so no
one knows what's happening. So that's good. But they're out in public right
now, so as we can see here, hopefully the stream get taken down.
This is Daredevil. Now. This came out last night. At first
it was a very blurry photo from the back and he was very bright,
which he is still very bright. I'd compared him to the nighttime here.
Yeah, I compared him to like a fruit roll up. But that is
Daredevil right there. And then I'll bring up Bullseye that's gonna come up next.
So this is a comic accurate cautume but not like the classic kind of
what you would affiliate. I can't remember what run this is. It's not
exactly, but the whole mass down very tactical. There is some bullseyes,
so don't how are you feeling about Austine bulls that we never got to see
him in a costume? So this is gonna be his costume, and how
are you feeling about? And I guess I will also bring up a comparison
because Clay did ask about, oh, what's the difference is here? And
here is them all the dareduble so you can kind of see the difference where
this one looks a bit more sleeker as far as you can see, Like
it's less black than new one. There's less like those first three have like
oh, here's a divot, here's a ab piece, here's like it's all
very just like a one sheet he has actually I don't know. I guess
his belt buckles. I guess we're circles. But now in the new one
they look more like uh d's I guess, like that's what people are saying,
like they're in more d esque. But uh yeah, what do you
what are you thinking about this this new costume? For I actually Charlie Cox.
They look like it's do yeah, stunt double for stun doble for this
this one. I think he will be in the suit. But yeah,
they were filming actions since last night. The pictures. Yeah, yeah,
it's uh it's very red. That was my first take on this is not
a shocking take, but it's very bright. Uh so very I don't know.
Maybe that's like a color grading thing they do. Maybe they want it
to be super bright and they can darken it down in the in the editor.
Oh no, I hey when they do that, Like, I know
this is bright, but I don't like severely, but maybe maybe just from
these shots, which look like paparazzi photos, like just yeah, it'll look
a lot different when we actually see it on screen. I don't I don't
dislike it, but is uh. I just love that Netflix red that's like,
to me, the ideal red. And I also really like the Sheehole
version with the yellow as well. So I don't know. I guess it
didn't take a little time to get used to it, but I think it
looks solid. I don't know. They're all very similar, honestly, Like,
I don't think they're drastic differences, so I'm into it. Yeah,
this one's definitely just more red and it looks a bit more I will say,
like leathery, which like Deadpool or like Daredebil he always has because I
have a good example of a caution, I kind of want and preferred the
col of the one he's always think it's like skin tight, like leather or
something. Right, So it's like I get why they don't do it.
It's a hard one to do, but I like, you know, he
got the batons there, so I like how ready is, especially if we
get the whole thing of him being with Spider Man, I think he should
maybe have a bit more of a poppier red like stand out beside like a
blue and red individual. Yeah, what do you feel? Because tell you
to watch the show, but how do you feel about this design? As
far as like degree a deal that the probably mute the colors down, because
I agree they will. I just feel like sometimes like when we talked about
Captain Marvel's suit right recently in the Marvels, where we liked it, but
then it was like the blue and red like that tone was so brought down.
It's like, oh, like, let it pop a little so I
don't want them to go too hard on the like the decolorization. But obviously
you're gonna watch show suit with Kirkham, But what do you what do you
feel about this? Is? Like this is like the maybe MCU and I
don't know, maybe there could be another suit in the show. I don't
know, but if this was like his look going forward, how would you
feel about it? I'm okay with it. This one feels very much so
like a NMCU superhero suit, even just the way like the padding is on
on his abdomen and it goes up to his chest, play cap like it's
it's cap light. It feels like it's mysterio chess played almost he gives me
that vibe like it just it feels like this is a kind of style we've
seen before, but it's different. It's its own thing, and so I
like it. I love how red this is. I think it's really really
cool and I like that it feels unique and it's its own, it's its
own thing, as much as I love the red and orange, like iron
Man asked, kind of like colors that he had before that was a pretty
cool suit. So I'm I don't know, I think this is a I
think this is a pretty awesome upgrade. All right, So then for this
one, Taylor better or worse than Colin Farrell's bulls Eye, who you're a
big fan of. I mean, he just wore a trench coat and had
a like burn mark that was pretty good. Bulls on his head. Yeah,
I don't see no bulls I had in uh uh Bilson Whiffles whatever his
name has had. You know, it doesn't look like there's a bulls eye
logo there. Yeah, maybe he doesn't have it yet. Although, like
I don't know. I I think he looks kind of cool, but he
looks like just like an operator from Call of Duty or something because he does.
I don't know if the is like better ones. I'll try and fine.
Well, So my thought on this, I mean initially it is,
oh my god, it's not at operator. I'm I'm definitely mixed on it,
you know. So I think it is the kind of generic and boring.
But what I do like about it, potentially if they go this story
angle is I like that he's rocking like the Hawkeye color scheme, and I
wonder if that could be a story thing because the characters are very similar power
wise, and I could see he hates Hawkeye in the comics too, by
the ways he hates Hawkeye in the comics. They have a history, so
interesting. Okay, So either way, I mean, I I think it'd
be interesting if there's some element of it that was pouring into Hawkeye, which
makes sense because if Hawkeye was really bumping around that New York scene for a
bit there, he's a character, you know, he was there, Kate
Bishop and all that. So that's something that I think could be a fun
angle that I hadn't really thought about before, just because of the power set
there. So and we got confirmed in Echo that Daredevil wasn't snapped and Hawkeye
wasn't snapped, so maybe bulls Eye wasn't either, So maybe they did bump
into each other. Oh interesting. Yeah, So we never we never tackled
it because remember because I don't think we ever circled back to it. When
we were on the review talking about when did Echo fight Daredevil, it was
revealed that was during the blip, so they Matt Murdoch Echo Hawkeye. We
also we knew we knew Hawkey, yeah, Kingpin, those characters survived the
blip, So you could say that about bullsye and if you're on screen,
as you can see, this is like what the comic accurate version is obviously
not complete, it identical. I do wish there was the bulls Eye on
the head. I would I would have liked that. But also to this,
they could Yeah, you're right, and the other thing is too,
this could just be like his first costume, right, like he could have
very similar to Matt. Right, Matt didn't start off with a dared little
costume he went up, so we don't know how far into his bulls Eye
career he is. But I agree with Tartis Sinse like I'm excited to see
get on screen shot well and go from there because I think on set photos,
yeah, it doesn't look You're right about the call the operator type of
skin, but I do like that he's tactical, like he's got a lot
of knives, he got this big like gone with a big silencer. There's
set photos of him just throwing like smoke bombs out, So I I do
like that aspect of it, that you know, he's that going on for
him. So yeah, we'll see And yeah that's cause do you guys feel
that you're missing because that was a big debate. Everyone thought, Hey,
when it comes to MCU, we're gonna get the d's on the chest.
No d's on the chest yet. Yeah, I mean it's probably good that
I didn't even notice that, so I don't feel like I'm missing it.
That's fair. I'm okay with it. Yeah, Taylor, he missing the
d's. I didn't notice it, so I'm not missing it. That's fair.
I'll stop sharing because what I wanted and what I it looks good.
But I feel like somebody felt like the closest you could get to a where
is it here? Yeah? This is what it was. So because people
were kind of some people were not a fan of this suit because if they
didn't like the Netflix suit, they want some more. But this is something
that I saw a fan edit. I was really liking this one. Now,
I don't know if Charlie Cox is like as jacked as that, but
I was really liking that. I think this is the closest getting the skin
tight. But you know, you want some armor on the MCU, So
I get it. It's it is what it is. But maybe we'll get
on this one on the chest. Yes, maybe we'll get the d's eventually,
you know, because people say it's a big chest, it's very wide
open and stuff, so we will see and go from there. And yeah,
so they're shooting outside. We'll see if there's any more set photos and
stuff, and uh, yeah, I got Karen Foggy out there back so
it's good. It's filming along and stuff. So that's all. Yeah,
that is exciting. So uh, next up, Taylor, mister July twenty
twenty five. You're waiting for this, uh Jurassic World. We don't really
know a title of it. We talked about a few weeks ago, but
what's happening right now is yes, did get to confirm for July twenty twenty.
And then David Leach, who directed Bull Train, he directed Deadpool two,
he directed Hobson Shaw, he co directed one of the John Wick movies,
and he's doing The Fall Guy that's coming out this year. So clearly
same studio. They must like what's happening with that movie. They're given a
big push. He is in talks, but the talks were from an a
tier kind of source to be directing this movie. Yeah, So Taylor,
what do you feel about your you know less than you know? I guess
just under a year of getting a new Drastic World movie, maybe we'll see.
I feel like that's really bold for they haven't walked down a director to
be it's coming out next summer. But still, and then, how do
you feel about, uh, David Leach directing this if he's the guy that
gets a call? I mean, yeah, we were, we were talking
about that, and it's it's exciting because there's a there's a there's something that
could come out of that that I'd be interested to see. But uh,
Brad Pitt, why are you thainting like like you're a scoop or something.
You can just say it, Yeah, I got it, Brad Pitt,
Drastic World, he's worked with, Yeah, he's worked with the many he's
worked on a few times. So you get Pentodrastic World movie, and I
think that would be I just I never thought I would see like Brad Pitt
in a role like that, especially because he's been doing more of these comedic
roles lately. But like I love I love those serious films with them too.
He can be super charismatic and I love World War Ze. I will
I revisit that film sometimes like twice a year, maybe three times. Like,
it's just like it's a film that I really really enjoy and you want
World War Ze two times a year. Yeah, there's a lot. There's
a lot of check that letter I think that's a lie. There's a lot
of there's a lot of scenes in that movie. There's a lot that I
don't log on my letter box that I just totally forget too. But sure,
just the the movie itself, I like how he is able to deliver
really high intense like hairs up on the back of her next sequences with some
of his acting and situations he's dealing with. And so if you were to
apply that to dinosaurs, I think we could really have a whole can of
worms is in a good way on our hands. So uh, I'm just
excited just to know that we can have this movie. Let's like slap the
director on there. Let's go. Because I like Deadpool two, well,
I like the first one more. I definitely it's not like I hated Deadpool
two. I liked it Pool two. I like Bullet Train and that was
a great time. It was funny, and so I just my con would
be getting a Jurassic movie that has a lot of humor attached to it.
I worry about that, and so I'm hoping that whatever they see in the
sky, that maybe there's something that they want to have him pursue or have
him do that he hasn't done before. I just want it to be I
really want it to be scary. I want it to be terrifying, because
when you look at that Fallen Kingdom intro, that first five minute period,
that was great. That was just awesome Jurassic Park where things are run down
and damaged and it's stormy, and the dinosaurs are trying to kill the people
and they're just trying to get out of there, barely escape with their lives.
That's fantastic and we need more of that. Again. We got the
writer for the first film coming back. Yeah, so that is really really
good stuff. And so I really hope that they can capitalize on something that's
really scary. I hope they can capitalize on something that is in the world.
Like you're always talking about Travis planting of the ape style, but dinosaurs,
there's still so much to explore with that. Without adding the locusts as
a threat, I think we need to focus on the dinosaur element of that.
So guests oh Man, Dylan, you ever saw the last Drassic World?
They do? I still have, not seeing the most recent one,
not extended edition, don't. I think i'd watch the standard edition if I
were so. We we had talked about this before, about like, you
know, directors and stuff. Do you Is this move the needle anyway for
you? I think for what these current new era Jurassic movies are, this
seems like an amazing pick. It seems like he's really solid, really making
some fun movies. Uh, good action, good use of CGI and all
these things. So to me, it seems like he's kind of the perfect
fit for this when I was looking through just the previous movies he's done,
and I don't know. I think I just have to see a trailer before
I know if I'm interested in it, But I don't know. I'll probably
check it out either way. I really like Bullet Train as well, even
though I was kind of sick of it after all the trailers, but I
still really enjoyed it. And I love Thatdpool two and all that, so
I'm into it. I think it's a really really good pick. Yeah,
I'm I'm torn on this one because I just feel like Cops and Shaw won't
count because that's fast and furious. But if you got Deadpool two, you
got Bullet Train, and the fall Guy looks to be like a very similar
type of comedic ton as Bullet Train. I feel like Jurassic World does have
comedy, but I don't think it's his type of comedy, which is almost
like a heightened sometime close to parody type of comedy. So to me,
it's like either Jurassic Park is gonna go through a big change or he's gonna
go through a change as far as like maybe try to level up or evolve
or do something a little bit differently, because I don't think he's just like
a straight drama, right like, like I guess you'd say John Wicks maybe
the closest, but I don't think there's one that's just straight like all this
is serious. And because I and I guess the new wouldn't we look more
at the writer though in terms of determining how yeah it's gonna be, and
we see that that's possibly a very good pick, right yeah. And that's
where I think maybe it is that Okay, he's writing it, and then
Leeches is gonna do less of that. Son he's just gonna shoot. What's
the script there? I am very curious about that date because for me,
I feel like this has to be and I'm not gonna see like say like
Prey with Drastic World or Park. But I feel like if this is coming
out July, that's a really quick turnaround for they're not even shooting it.
Like this movie a big cgi dinosaurs and set pieces. So I'm wondering if
it's gonna be a smaller movie. And just because we've talked about this before
where all these companies have been like, hey, we're gonna make a lot
more smaller budgeted films, right, They're gonna watch that. So I don't
know what you could do. And it's almost like Taylor, remember that film
of when they're camping and then there's a dinosaur around and stuff like that.
Rock Yeah about Big Rock, And I said, man, I wish this
was a movie instead of just like the short film. I wish if you
just did. And I know some people might be disappointing because you want the
big spectacle and a big full like island full of dinosaurs, but imagine that
if you're in a world of dinosaurs and you're camping and a fucking veloci raptor
comes up, Like, hey, what do you do about that? The
same way as like Revenant with a bear, but dinosaurs, you know,
like do that? So I feel like it has to be smaller. If
not, then Taylor your name of July twenty twenty five is not gonna happen.
I don't think because I that's it. I just feel like a quick
turnover rate for to get that out. I feel like they've I feel like
this is something that they've been already working on, like there. I feel
like like script's already done and all that, and well, script is done,
but they don't have a director. They don't have any of any cast,
like at least we know right like still late Lea right now is in
talk, so that's still in the the it's still in the motion of they're
talking about money and contracts, right, That's true. That's what's strange to
me is like the same thing, we don't have an actor attached anybody like
that. In terms of that, that's a really really a good point in
terms of having the assets. I feel like this is where Jurassic Park three
particularly really benefited because it was able to just probably drop its budget and just
rehash and reuse most of the assets from drafts Park one and two when they
have all those animatronics built and whatnot. So when you look at collectively,
we got six movies worth of practical effects, robotics and animatronics and everything,
I think that helps really slash their budget down because they can just pull all
that reskin it and use it. So that shaves a lot of time down
to for building things, considering all the models they got. So if they're
just doing CGI whatnot, I think I feel like they could they could quickly
go ahead and turn it around, but they can't be doing something big,
like an endgame level or anything like that that's huge. I mean, I
feel like it they could do a dominion, I don't think like that.
The size of they couldn't. You know, they'd have to keep it pretty
small and contained. And I feel like small and contained is like the first
Drastic Park movie. Yeah, that's small and contained, and that doesn't have
to be again limited to an island. It can be in our present day
like Ballot Big Rock. As you said, that's a great example. So
hopefully they keep it to that because it doesn't need to be huge World ending,
locusts coming in and whatnot. So yeah, which you think you could
build too. So we'll see if it comes out. Because my fall up
question was right now the date if it comes out next year. At that
time, it's a week after Superman Legacy, which I think not great for
legacy, but that's what I was talking about with the gua guys, So
I want to ask you, guys, what what do you think overall would
make more this drastic movie which we don't know of a cast ford So that's
why I refused. Clay tried a pizza bet me, and I said,
I gotta see a cast first, because like what was he pizza betting you
that Legacy would make more than drastic? Like whatever this is? And I'm
not ready because to me, the cast could be key because even though he
was on the upswing, like Chris Pratt's a bigger star now than he was
then, but still Jurassic World was after Guardian, so he was starting to
build people at leastknew Bryce Alice Howard, and I guessaid, for example,
let's say it is a more serious, drastic movie. I don't actually think
Brad Pitt's at a question. I really don't. They've worked together multiple times,
like imagine a Jurassic Park movie with Brad Pitt all over those posters.
So for me, it's a cast. And for me, even then,
I leaned towards Drastic because those last three Drastic movies all made a billion.
I'm not saying this is gonna make a billion, but I feel like there
is more hype with that. But maybe the idea of hey, a new
Superman, new universe. A lot of up and comers in this movie.
Like I'm not saying it's like a for sure, but if I have a
gun in my head, I think it's the Drastic movie, which is like
I said, it's interesting that if this sticks a week apart, that's that's
two big movies, very very suffocating each other, right there. So which
Clay was it? Was it Fanboy or Fanboy Clay Yeah, not Patreon Clay,
Yeah, Famboy Clay. Yeah, Sorry sorry, I don't think let's
so you go Drastic. I'm on the Drastic side. Yeah. I mean
when you look at yeah, the track record just billion dollars all or all
across the board. Though's that's pretty pretty potent. I feel like they're well
Superman's The first project from guns is Universe. Right, we get Creature Commandos
this year, but like no one's paying attention to that, like people are,
but I mean, like that's us gonna watch that, right, Like
I don't think my mom's gonna be like this is Like at least I can
say legacy of like, hey, they're starting Universe, it's legacy. I'd
never say, hey, go watch Creature Commandos to get the start of the
DCU. But yes, that is the kickoff, so it could have that
new car smell, right of, like that excitement, the build up and
all takes us a couple of good trailers. You know, absolutely I could.
But I think at the end of the day, I think I don't
know, like our kids super hyped into Superman these days, I don't know
if that's still the rage. I feel like dinosaurs just they always have that.
That's staffs there for kids, not niws genre to go for their dinsairs
for sure. I think so, yeah, I think I think super I
think that Legacy is gonna be the big, big decider on that because that's
been the debate for years. It's like, is Superman even like an a
tier character anymore. And I think it's tough to ask that because the Snyder
films were so divisive. Like, if if it wasn't Zack Snyder dragging those
Superman films, we don't know what it would have been like, right,
because that is a popular character. I think those just very divided the audiences.
And still, bvs, it was an eight hundred million dollar movie.
It was still like a big hit. People talk about it like it wasn't
but it still did well. But don't do you have a different side of
this or you think similar to us? Unfortunately not, I am on your
guys side here, So yeah, I I because who did they cast as
Superman again? Some guy David corn Sweat. Yeah, that's that's some guy.
If I've ever seen it, I'm sure he's great. But like,
I don't, I don't know. I don't think this is gonna have quite
the mass appeal, like I think you get could get to that point later
on in James Gunn's universe or maybe just some other movies with bigger names and
whatnot, But I don't think that's gonna be the one to hit a billion
dollars, especially, Yeah, when these Jurassic movies are consistently doing those numbers.
Yeah, maybe this one drops off a bit if we don't have all
those big names again. But like you say, eving those first two,
I guess they sold big names as well. But yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if it'll hit a billion again because we don't really know
much about it at this point. But I feel like they're both gonna do
well. But I think Jurassic would do better. It seems seems to be
the case. There we go, we'll revisit this in a In a year,
I guess we'll get in trailers and everything, so we'll see. Who
knows what happens. Maybe those trailers were Drastic are just dog shit, or
maybe maybe they do that route where maybe they go and get a bunch of
unknowns. Then people are like, there's no stars in Drastic, Like that's
why I still think you'll get a star. But maybe they don't. Right,
Maybe they'll say, ah, let's try and keep the budget low.
Get David corn Sweat's brother, Richard Korn Sweat, and then you know,
see the competing sweats. You know, so yeah, let's take another I'd
break them. We'll be right back, and we're back so this one was
just a quick one. We're telling new films. And then I got Patroon
Clay's question here as well and Maddie's and Maddie ic, Yeah, I guess
we could hit now because I wasn't sure if he was just asking overall,
because he said, who would you like to direct a new Jurassic Park film?
So I wasn't sure if you just didn't see who the director was or
just like an overall But do you guys have anybody, Like, let's say
Leech falls out and you know, Taya, they come to you, they're
like, hey, Leech said, no, we need somebody. Who you
got Oh, I would like to see a Neil blombcamp possible? Okay,
grand orismal hype, grand prismal hype. No, mostly just District nine hype.
That's where that stems from, Dylan, You got anybody? Yeah?
I think I think if they're going for if they're going to I don't know
if it's the same kind of movies as these last three have been in terms
of tone and style and all that. I think, like Ryan Johnson,
you throw him in there. Oh, you just guess that's close to Travarrow.
There no are you kidding me? That ball I put, I put,
I put JJ Travarrow and Ryan Johnson all together. That's no, no,
okay. Dylan is right in the sense of like, yeah, big
blockbuster, but there's no way you can compare Travol's work to like Last Jedi
or Knives Out. Like Johnson is leagues above Colin, Like there's he is
not on the same ballpark. He can do the same thing as Colin,
but like Ryan is like much much superior. But hey, maybe we get
Daniel Craig in the movie, right. I just don't. I just don't
see that they bringing in a director here for the big creative vision, Like
I feel like they kind of already like you're gonna make this movie that we
want to make kind of thing or you know, in that same in that
same ball camp, ball game. Why is it? I can't think of
the ball Camp. Mind is falling apart the directors. It's like duo directors.
They did a D and D. I think that would be a good
Yeah, I like that might be hamming up the comedy more than we're used
to. But once again, if it's the same writer and these guys are
just directing, I think they could pull it off. Jonathan Goldstein Goldstein and
John Francis Daily Dallas, you ever pronounced his name, So those would be
like I think, if you're just trying to fill that slot, you know,
just that puzzle piece. Those seem like good ones, but a couple
off the wall ones that I would love to see a Wes Anderson stop motion.
I think that could be would stop motion one yeah, I would be
all over, and then the other is uh. And I don't really want
him do this because I want Jordan Peele to keep making his weird movies,
but man after Nope, get him to do like a scary ass Jurassic movie
with that scale, with just the the great writing and the messages you.
I'd also want him to write like I want him to do everything, uh
and start and to do everything. Those would be my two kind of off
the wall picks. They're not going that direction, but those would be very
fun, I promise you, or I can almost guarantee that they at least
talk to him about this because he works with the Universal a lot. I
just feel like even if he right away said no, that's not interest,
I just think there's no way that if Jordan Peele is in your company doing
all these films for you, and you're gonna make a new Drassic movie that
you don't float the idea out or could literally be like hey, I want
to do this and they go, actually, we don't want to do that
because that might be, like you said, too weird. Right, But
yeah, yeah, I think after note, I guarantee you they at least
sent out a few like yeah, you got any interest, and maybe it
was like a quick note. But I feel like I feel like that would
be like a studio malpractice if you have Jordan Peele and you don't ask them
about every franchise, you know, because even then he said like, oh,
he always wants to make stuff about you know, like black cinema and
stuff. But it's like you could still, I think, find a way
to do that with Jurassic Park. Right. You know, Palmer some years
and years and years of doing his more his doing original stuff before he jumps
into any ip stuff like that. So other than like maybe in a small
way, so I don't think he would want to do it right now,
I agree with you. I think he also just might be one of those
directors that never takes that plunge, you know, like I think if it
is, like he said, something smaller, but I don't know if it
will ever get like a Jurassic a Star Wars, a Star Trek, like
maybe he has five movies that bomb back to back and yeah, that's true.
I really could use his paycheck right now. That's all takes. Yeah,
so he might come up again in Clay's question. But so I think
this is something where if you're almost what Tailor is getting back to, like
the scariness, and maybe it's like this guy could still you know, David
write the script, but this person could take a you know, a second
draft at he or look over it's different than what he's doing right now.
But I would throw John Krasinski in there because I feel like with a Quiet
Place and something, if you were trying to get back to that more smaller
scale because Quiet Place is like big scale, but it's not really because there's
so much that's hidden and I don't think there's that many interactions with the monsters,
creatures whatever they are, right, So if you were to do and
I'm not saying just Carbi kopping that, but I'm just saying that he has
a good aspect with working with family dynamics or just ensembles. So usually Drastic
Park has like three to four characters bumping around, so it might get too
same zy, and that's why someone might just go, oh, well,
that's just quiet place it could be. But if you're asking, like,
hey, who could make something you know of quality and it has similar vibes,
that would be it. But like I said, that's why I appreciate
with Krasinski in real life. That's why I like he's doing it, because
he's like he's doing something else different. He's a family film. It's like
he's challenging himself to go, Okay, I've done to the scary movies.
Let's do a complete family movie. Right. So it wouldn't be that,
but you know, maybe that's something that I would see. So and then
in that same type of realm because obviously this is you know, we got
evil that we're gonna talk about in a second, but this is gonna be
maybe legacy sequel, we don't know. Patroon Clay asked with Alien, Drastic
Park, Beeld, Juice, mad Max both getting legacy movies reboots, et
cetera in the next year, what is a franchise that hasn't had a movie
a long time that you'd want to see revived, and if you have a
filmmaker and director that would be want to write it, you know, direct
it, if you have anybody who would tackle that. So you guys got
any tai, let me start with you, because you're like, oh,
I got a good one. So I want to hear what it is,
and I want to see if it's Underworld or not. It's not it's not
Underworld. I want to see. I really want to see a new Jaws.
I feel like it's a classic, and I feel like other films have
piggybacked off of it and just done their own spins, like oh we got
the meg. They just make the sharks bigger and bigger, and that seems
to be like their way of making things terrifying. But there was a movie
that came out, yeah, in twenty sixteen, The Shallows, and I
really like that movie that does really really like really subtle good time with just
the the surfer gets stuck on this little reef and the shark is just in
the area. I feel like you can really you can really tackle a story
like that again with Jaws, and it doesn't have to be like a carbon
copy, but something very similar to that thread of just this impending shark.
And it doesn't have to be either like an isolation like oh, we're stuck
on out here on the water, We're stuck on a raft. Yeah.
Yeah, but you can have bring Amneyville or Amity Island back on Amneyville,
Amney Island. Just bring the police chief Brodie in. I feel like there's
certain things that you could bring in from that original. But yeah, just
I think I'm really craving that very basic threat of a shark. Don't go
full cgi. I want to get that practical shark back in there too,
the one that didn't work in the first movie. Mm hm that one.
Okay, would you get Spielberg back? Would he be back at the Helm?
Well, you've kind of made me think that we shouldn't trust Spielberg lately,
so well that's just a me opinion. Lots of other people like his
work. So you liked wright Player one, right, I feel like you
trust them? Yeah, yeah, I liked it. I liked it quite
a bit. Actually, yeah, but going back in there make another one,
I mean maybe maybe I don't really know who I would want to really
direct it. Maybe get Neil in thereim the double whammy. He can take
over all of Spielberg's former project be sale. That's the Ready Player too,
Neil Blong Camp Dylan, did any spring to mind for you? Oh?
Man, I was thinking about this all day. I was doing like a
lad madman, like what series of in dormant? For what? Like?
I could not find a single thing like because I just feel like, to
his point in the question, like every big franchise has got something at least
in the last few years. I was thinking, like, oh, like,
they should bring spike Is back and then probably the Spike Is movie that
came out last year. Awful, so awful. Wait, I could not.
I could not find anything. I'm sorry, Clay. I tried my
best to come up with one. If you ask me this about games,
I'm sure I could come up with a few good answers, But for movies,
couldn't. Couldn't find anything juicy, So I I'm kind of the same.
Other than one, I guess too, I didn't find many that like
franchises. I found like the idea more of a k legacy sequel. We're
turning back to it. So I have a list of six I'm just gonna
quick fire. There's three that are you would just pretty much bring back the
same director and just like I just recapture it and I try to go with
Kay, what is movies that have been a little bit while and something where
we'd like to return to. So my first one, I'm not saying it's
gonna be called eight, but a sequel to seven. You got Brad Pitt
still around, you got Morgan Freeman still around, Dave Fincher, he gets
in there. There's a big twist. Has ever seen seven here? Okay,
there's a big twist that happens with Brad Pitt's character. I'd love to
see years later what would happen with said character. And I think you could
set up with like there's a new Plucky detective and stuff like that. Morgan
Freeman's whole character is about now he needs to retire, and then the movie
he decides not to retire. So there's things you could circle back to.
So that's one. This is because this man's self opposed to retirement on himself.
Will never get but kill Bill three. I don't know why he's doing
this, but like I would love to get Killby three. You just get
Tarantino back. They set up right, she kills that girl's daughter one day,
come find me. We're gonna fight. That's the story right there.
But we're not gonna get that. Uh. I know they they've always talked
about it, but they're like, oh, we couldn't find the angle.
I feel like you do super Bad too, but this time you get Seth
Rogan to direct, and I feel like you do like the cheap like maybe
you know Seph and Evans kids in high school there together and stuff. But
when you talk about legacy sequels like a Ghostbusters, that's literally the old cast
in there for like twenty minutes. Since the new people, I think,
as long as you get Seth and Bill Hayter are still the cops. Amma
stomakes a quick cameo, you got him, she would do it right.
So it's like all these people in there. That's where it's like, I
feel like you there's legacy sequel potential and super Bad even when they're all in
their fifties, you know, I feel like there's tons of time with that.
The other one, I didn't put it in I because it just sprung
to mind. I think they're doing that with American Pie. I think that's
the rumor that they're bringing the cast back hearing yeah, to be like the
parents. And then so that I think is a good idea. And then
my three more like I guess this isn't a franchise et et again. You
know the Henry Thomas actor, he's still around acting, Drew Barrybot that that
sequel commercial. Did you ever watch that? I did? You know?
So I think you either do Spielberg or my cheat again is you do Krazinski.
I think he could be a good fit there. And then my two
that are more legacy franchise stuff is and we're talk about a second. I
think Evil Dead, and I think you do with all the leads, like
we've talked about. You get Mia, you get Ash, and you get
whatever her name is in Rise I can't remember, maybe a new lead,
and you get them all together. That's when you get Sam Raimi back.
If not Sam Ramy, you do your legacy sequel with those three. With
Edgar Wright, I think he could do something really fun with Evil Dead,
especially because like with Last sconce so Ho, he's like like he's like putting
his toes in a horror and stuff and then my last legacy sequel is one
that I've said before, so it's not that crazy, But I want Ariostra
to direct Nightmare on Elm Street. That's what I want. England still alive,
have had their laying camp still alive, and even England has been like,
oh well the makeup. It takes a lot. I feel like Ariostor
could make some reason why you could just have Robert England act a lot like
like I I would want something like that and be really trippy. I don't
know how successful would be, but uh yeah, those were my picks.
You made me think of one nice. You know who's the Who's the biggest
guy in Hollywood right now? Is is Mike White off the White Lotus.
Let's do School Rock. Let's do a sequel? Oh yeah, Jack Black,
he's still a big deal. Yeah, in there, and they're all
they all still love music and now you know, you do the classic kids
thing and their kids are in this school of rock. Yes, I want.
We mean once watched that recently. I went through like what are all
of these actors like doing these days? And a couple of those kids are
like married now, which is which is kind of a fun thing and some
of them are still doing music and whatnot, so I think that could be.
That could be fun. Some of them that was the only movie they
ever acted, and I think, so, yeah, bring them back to
for their second acting. Isn't that girl from Ike Carle in there? Yeah?
Perfect? You know, like, yeah, I agree with you.
That's a good That's a really good one, I think with him. But
just all those people are still only I said, I love Joan Cusack in
that movie, so I feel like it'd be fun to see her back.
Yeah. No, that's a good one. I like that. So,
speaking of People Dead, we talked about this before when the movie came out.
It was last year where Bruce Campbell go, oh, you'll be getting
in a lot more sooner. So I don't think there's much to talk about
here because I don't think we've seen any of his work, even including myself.
There's a lot of foreign films, but the director, Sebastian Fanique,
there's a lot of like different you know, symbols by the name. So
I'm definitely saying it wrong. But they've said that this is an Evil Dead
spinoff, and we're talking about at Spubs and the Discord where I don't know
if that just means that all these films are spin offs, like if in
Evil Dead four that's technically Ash Williams, you know, so maybe all of
them are like a Rise. But they made this announcement and they said the
plan is to do Evil Dead films with upcoming filmmakers. I don't think they
said like yearly. They didn't put a date on. They just said,
hey, this is our new game plan. As we talked about before,
there's a big gap between Evil Dead twenty thirteen and then Rise ten years and
twenty thirteen was a hit, so everyone was like, where is this coming,
What's gonna happen? But it seems like with Rise this go around,
it was like, hey, the franchise is still there. So Dylan delight
this concept of hey, finding up and coming directors to do spinoffs. Do
you think that maybe you know, maybe not waiting ten years, but do
you think that already? Because Rise came at last year and now production is
starting on another one, So I think it might be like if it's we
could even get this next year right, like look at Saw with Saws when
you know, like horror movies say off quick turnaround sometimes because that's right.
So, like, do you think that's a good idea to maybe fast track
these a bit more because Rise was a big hit for them. Yeah,
why not? It seems like a good time to do it. I I
think this is a really fun and cool idea, you know, like these
these big time and kind of horror guys, the Sam Raimi and stuff bringing
in like because I'm sure they're watching all sorts of weird small horror absolute like
they started out, and finding these people who are making interesting stuff, and
like getting those people to make sequels because Evil Dead's a perfect series for this,
where you know, there are a few movies now and there is enough
juice there, there's established stuff that you can work with. But it's also
like there's not a whole lot, Like if you were to go through a
wiki page, I'm sure on the fandom site there's probably not a ton there,
because like there is a tons of Lord of This. I mean,
I guess there's a TV show, So maybe there's a whole lot that I'm
missing. But I feel like it's it's ambiguous enough and there's enough. Yeah,
there's just enough room to go a lot of different directions with it.
But it's also just like a classic for so many people, and I'm sure
a lot of people who are directing horror movies grew up loving those movies or
thinking they were interesting at the very least. So and then yeah, even
like if you dip into like Army of Darkness, like that's a total,
whacky, completely different thing too. So if that opens up the possibility is
what you can do as well. So I really like this idea. I
don't obviously don't know whose director is, so not much opinion on that,
but if Sam Raimi hand picked them, then I'm sure he's a good pick
for this. Yeah, I'm excited because, like what you alluded to,
I think we did the retro go check out look at Evil Dead one,
two, Army of Darkness, and then twenty thirteen. They're all there degrees
of Evil Dead, right. I didn't include Rise because I feel like Rise
is very much like the twenty thirteen. It's that kind of torture, not
torture porn, but very scary up two gross things happening, right, and
then Evil Dead one was this like low budget grill filmmaking one. Evil Dead
two was almost like a parody of itself. Evil Dead three was like a
parody medieval thing. Sin's the thing where in all the decades of Evil Dead,
the next Evil Dead could be like a full on comedy again, right,
and you couldn't be like, oh, they ruined Evil Dead because it's
like they've done this before, so that's a good thing. Like not even
just the lore, I feel like just the tones of those movies, they
can really do anything. Like I feel like Evil Dead having like an anthology
type film franchise is has lots of potential. I do think they should keep
it to like a two year minimum. I don't think it is the same
as Saw where because eventually people did get sick of Saw, right, and
the Saw has a really low budget. So I guess as long as I
keep the budgets like they did before, like a forty million, like really
low, I guess they could put out yearly. But I feel like if
for long term purpose, I would prefer three. But I feel like two
is like a good minimum to have where it's like a little break get to
make it the marketing, because I feel like that's where even if you start
to have a low budget, people could turn and all takes is maybe one
or two myth films, right, and then if they're all bangers, then
it doesn't matter because it's like, oh, man, like Saw was for
a while for the fans, right, it's like, oh heavier, we're
getting the Saw. And then eventually, once we got to some of those
later years, people got tired of it and they didn't come out. So
that's what you don't want to happen with Evil Dead. So yeah, and
I think that's good because I think this shows that they probably are going with
these type of directors as well too, because they are used to working with
smaller budgets. So there's a director that might work with a film has a
ten million dollar budget and you tell them, hey, you're getting thirty,
they're gonna be like, holy fuck, like this is crazy. You know,
Like like same thing on us, Like if you're telling us, like,
hey, you guys got a one million dollar budget, We're like,
oh my god, like the gates are open, you know, we're working
with like a five thousand dollar budget. So yeah, I'm I'm excited that
it's just not a ten year weight and I'm excited that Evil Dead is not
dead, and I hope this is a good film. So Taylor I'm very
much excited just to get more Evil Dead. I think you hit that head
on where I don't think that it shouldn't go for that Saw factor where people
did get sick of Saw. And I don't think you should rush these films
because I think that it can be noticeable how repetitive it is, at least
to the degree of just how much gore and blood and violence there there are
in these films, So I think that they should they should really do really
well well, like deep dive stories, like I like getting to attached to
the characters. I think that's one of the reasons why I really liked Rise
is because I really got involved just the mom and how you feel sorry for
her and yet of course she's the one who becomes the villain, and just
really play with different camera scenes, and that's something that Evil Dead did,
just having like the originally the camera being this entity that's flowing through the woods
going after its victims. That's that's where it starts. And then at least
in Evil Dead twenty thirteen and evel Dead especially, you get really cool sequences
where it's like that hallway scene and you're looking through the people. It's just
fucking chaos out there, or just she's got their headphones on then it mom
drops in behind her out of the event, stuff like that. Just if
you can keep doing unique things like that again the title card, then I
think you can really spice up new anthology sequel films. Yeah, all right,
her final stories here staying in the horror realm winning Pooh Blood Honey Too.
They were released trailer and they also said that this is coming out.
You had a little bit of bigger budgets. The first one did well for
it's you know, comparative. They also said that you gotta stay tuned for
the end credits Wayne the Pooh Blune Honey Too, because they're gonna be unveiling
their public domain universe. I don't know what they're gonna be calling it,
but yeah, they're showing off. They're doing Pinocchio and Peter Pan the specific
company because there is another company doing a Bambi one, but that's not the
same company. So this company specifically doing with the Bambi one or these threes
three characters they have Bamby and uh whatever this company to the directors of these
separate movies. Maybe they're pissed though, maybe they wanted to do Bamby and
someone beat them to it, right, So there's like some blood feud there.
So I don't know. As weird as the sounds, I need to
give Blood Honey another watch. I probably will because I wanted it to be
more bad than good. This trailer, I will say, it does look
like some of the budgets a little bit bigger, and I appreciate that they're
really doubling down on like you got Tigger in there, Like they're bringing a
lot of the animals. This one looks more like the first one was them
going to the animals or monsters. This looks like the animal monsters are coming
to them in town, which I think is always a fun juxtaposition. So
I am hoping for a better time than the first one because I think they
just for me, should have went all out and went really really over the
top, like for me, that's what I don't think the Mean one completely
did that, but the Mean one was closer to what I wanted than winning
the Pooh, Blood Honey and the whole Senate universe. It's like, okay,
cool, if you're gonna make some money, go ahead. I do
think they are gonna pull trigger, and I think they are gonna at some
point do some fucking Avenders type movie where they're all together, and I'm dreading
and exciting excited for that as well. So the trailer is pretty much exactly
what I thought. And I did just get a kick out of Oh say,
tuned for the end credits for this next movie and our plan. So
I guess color me like, what is the word intrigued? Maybe it's like
being scared for intrigued and not cautiously optimistic. I don't know, frightened into
place scared. No, I might be after I see this movie, but
I have I have some sort of anticipation. Don't know what it is,
so yeah, I don't know. Taylor, did you see the Pooh and
Blood Honey as well? Yeah? I mean Travis reviewed it nice. Yeah,
you're you a big fan as well. I mean the first one.
I do not remember when I rated it, but I think i'd have to
rewatch it again. I need to kind of put myself back into that world
and just kind of get familiarized with it. I think that it definitely shows
its budget that first one, but there's definitely some stuff that I was laughing
at. You laugh at how Christopher Robbin acts in certain scenes and whatnot,
because he's a dummy, very questionable. I think any person, but particularly
Christopher Robbin should know, like they'll fuck this isn't good. You should just
watch the first like five minutes of the movie. Dylan and I watched it.
I intended to watch it, it just wasn't easy to find anywhere.
Yeah, I never got around to it, but definitely with the sequel coming
out, hopefully it comes out. Had a nice time because I think this
the first one came out when I was out of town or something whacky,
so I definitely want to get in on this, Like this seems fun and
stupid and you know what weird me? Would you watch along? You know?
Maybe I remember watching the like trailers for the first one, and I
thought Pooh was more of like a monstrosity, whereasn't this it just he's just
the guy with a mask, right, No, I had the same thing,
even like his body shape, like I thought he was bigger and more
more of a menacing figure. But he's just like a slim guy. Maybe
has like a little gut going on, and you know we all have that
at some pint points. And then like he just has a little mask on
because me and Tarya top of review, because I was the reverse and Wayne
the Pooh, I thought he was wearing a mask and he was a mutant.
But then Taylor, I'm pretty sure Taylor was right where they are supposed
to be like mutated. So I think that's just the budget having something.
I'm more tripped. I was just like, how regular the body is?
Yes, I thought it's just the Twenny the Pooh who kind of has like,
you know, it's got a big, big belly there, like could
be fun as part of the aesthetic, but it just seems a bit vanilla
somehow. Yeah. Really, all they went for was the mask, and
that's where Tigger is a bit differ and he has like a tail or something
right, and like the boots or something which looks really weird. Yeah,
because it was his Piglet was the other character in the first one, right,
uh yeah, and he did well, there is another one, but
he is a spoiler bad fate early on. Don't don't you'll forget Well they
were yeah, I know which when you're talking about I won't talk about that,
but there were three total, right or was it just Piglet and was
there first one? No, you are is a different a different story that
they address. But I thought there was a third one. What does that
mean, sir? That's it? We can't you said, no spoilers,
We don't there They they hinted the same thing with Tigger because he was in
the first one. But they're like, oh, yeah, like you see
it and stuff. But Tiger in the first one. No, like he
was in the drawings and stuff. Like they alluded to me for this one.
Yeah, bye got from the trader. They eluded that Tigger existed,
but he was not in the first one. Taylor, that's oh yeah,
okay, so yeah it is. It is just Pooh and Piglet, I
guess, and that first one. So I'm that's one of the highlights for
me is seeing that we've we've gone and expanded because what we got owl in
this one. We have Tigger and yeah, piglets back in here, which
is great, and you back. Obviously there's story reasons, they explained.
There's story reasons. Yeah, owls or rabbits not in here, not yet.
You guys save someone for the third movie. Right, that's not even
a owl and rabbit are You're you're beyond me on the Pooh knowledge over here
and Tya, you gave us a three out of five on letter but okay,
so I passed it. I passed it. Okay, interesting. I
mean I am excited to because watch the trailer. The budget is noticeably different,
and just seeing like Pooh, just that flaming chainsaw, I was like,
man, this is cool. I'm getting like Friday the Thirteenth vibes mixed
in here, and I was really eating all that. And you get the
classic stuff where you got like what was the women in the hot tub or
in the were they in the hot tub in the first one? Yeah,
I was surprised. Yeah there. Oh no, you remind me of the
pool scene too. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Oh yeah yeah yeah.
So you got your classic like the late these that are all like you know,
the they're they're gonna die kind of thing. So and what about the
universe, Taylor? Are you excited for that? They're absolutely excited? I
I really am. I think that this is just crazy. Let's make Disney
feel really anxious, and let's do it. Who do you want added the
most? Yeah? From public domain characters? Get Steamboat Willie in there,
Mickey mose. I mean that's already being done with another film, I guess,
but yes, I mean Peter Pan That's that's interesting. And the other
one, yeah, Bambi. And then what was the other one? Pinocchio.
I'm really excited, specially Pinocchio is blowing up right now, so hot,
right now, Pinocchio so hot? Did you guys? Puss in boots
is public domain? Really? Really? Isn't that crazy? Get him in
here like just a horror like cat wearing boots. Yeah, that would be
great. Oh yeah, I'm down. I'm surprised someone's done it yet.
Oh and then finally our last little thing today, long legs. This is
coming from Neon. This is I could never say her name. She's in
a bunch of stuff. She's in any like it falls Malika Suka or something.
Nicholas Cage is in this. This has got a lot of buzz because
the past few weeks they've been dropping some very eerie and different type of teasers
and posters. They're very much like they got you intrigued, but he didn't
know what was going on, per se it was. It's a good marketing
campaign. They've done a good job. But yeah, there were full trailers
out and it's uh, she's playing a detective looking after a zerial killer.
Don't know what's really going on. This is like top ten anticipate for me
right now, maybe a top five to be honest, if I would have
had to take out my listsermost one, and I still think there's a chance
when I get to it, and maybe it's not like it could be too
trippy or not hit that that level of what I'm thinking, like a top
fiver. But the marketing in this trailer for me was just the vibe,
really digging, the vibe, really dig in. I like that neon because
the neon doesn't hit as well as a twenty four for me, but it
does have that type of vibe. So everything I saw in here was great.
I'm assuming from the voice and just the little shots that I think Nicholas
Cage is gonna be the killer, and I think that's like that has some
primo potential, especially we get like serious Nicholas Cage because he can't act,
and even if he's a little crazy, it might work if he's like a
Satanic or like Lucy Goosey guy. So this for me is right on the
radar and I'm I'm looking really excited for this one now, so and I
hope Colony gets it. But I have a feeling we're not kind of because
I don't know how why to release. It's gonna happen, so but we'll
see. Yeah, it'd be too bad. I think. I think this
was a really really well done trailer. The music was really great, and
it was a bit different. Yeah, the tone of the vibe of it
still horrible. With something different. I was really getting like a big kind
of parallel worlds sort of vibe to it, where they have like I guess
it's the text the title of the movie. I don't know what it is,
but like they're drawing text on the screen everyone as a while, and
it's kind of like mirrored on either side. We're seeing a lot of shots
of like she's screaming, and then it's like a it seemed like a different
person in a car, like having this different scene. So I don't know
if there's some sort of voodoo situation going on where like one character does a
thing and then it forces some other character to act in that way, and
that's where the killer is being forced to do these actions to like a medium
or something weird like that. But what or is the detective getting visions of
the victims, like some of their experiences? Yeah, that could be a
too either way. Like, Yeah, some really fun trippy ideas that I
think could be if they're executed, well, could be really really fun.
So I'm pretty excited for this all of a sudden it does it have a
release date yet? I'll check. I think it might be in the summers.
I think it's so little ways off. Yeah, long legs one film
or one July twelfth, So I don't know what's going on, Joe.
I try to keep my excitement and check here. It's pretty far away.
Yeah, I'm trying to find out what's coming out that week in July twelfth.
That's the I don't know. There's not much because the week before is
to Spickled Me Before, and then the week after is Twisters, so it's
a It's two weeks before Deadpool three, so I'm kind of hoping with the
lighter week we might get it. But what about you, because I know
the Nick Cage got to you, But even without nick Cage, is this
something you'd be interested in? Or did this look like a pass? No?
This this interested me, I'd say for sure this is the story,
And just watching the trailer, it's like, man, this this is just
this is crazy. There's some wild stuff going on here, and I like
the general synopsis of just trying to figure out what's going on, like some
supernatural serial killer kind of stuff things that rap. It just sounds really really
wild and intriguing and mysterious, and I'm really excited to see how that story
would unfold, like the crescendo, the unraveling at the end. So it's
a journey I want to go on. I just love seeing how Nick Cage
has gone from just where he was back in the day doing like really great
roles in these movies and just like started to go downhill and likes, like
what the fun kind of roles And now he's climbing his way back up.
He's doing really really cool stuff lately, really good stuff. So what a
journey. Oh it really is, like it's he has a career you can't
peg and I like these doing these really odd roles so hard working man exactly.
So yeah, maybe they'll be if we can see it, maybe there'll
be a geek first review for that, because I think we're pretty interested.
We haven't heard kirkl On's thoughts. By fick, it'd be up uh the
mister Disneyland's alley there, but uh yeah, well there you go. We
have done it. We will be back for a newscast later on in just
a few days to talk about all these glorious trailers coming up. So thank
you very much for listening if you've gotten this far, and ah yeah promising
here for us next and I'll be boring by bye.