On location and driven by Victor Christlin dots Gie Brown. It's Bilified the Bill
Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pun on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word about the
pirate Ship. We're doing kind of a best of today and I thought it
would be kind of fun to come on and explain what today's episode is all
about and who would highlights and why. You know, we've been doing this
podcast for a year. And by the way, Merry Christmas, and I
hope you're having a wonderful week. I hope you got to spend some time
with friends and family. I am currently out of town while we're recording this
and spending time nursing my mom's hip back to you know, over the past
year, we've I always liked meeting people. I'm a big I realized that
about myself. I love I find people interesting. I love doing the one
on ones. And I hope you checked out the Gary Craig one reporter Gary
Craig recent episode we just just did the other day, but or just uploaded
the other day. However, we meet a lot of people, and I
think one of the most interesting people we've met and one of the most memorable
over the past year was Stephanie Eyed. And Stephanie now currently has a boyfriend
and is in a very serious relationship. But Stephanie was a lot of fun
and as I got to know her, I realized what a big heart and
wanted really truly honest person. This is so I thought it'd be fun to
go back and look at some of the earlier episodes before Stephanie had a boyfriend.
And we're going to start out by going back to episode sixty three.
It's called The World of Stephanie Eyed, episode sixty three, and from part
two of that episode, we learned about a website. I was going to
say, but it's actually a Facebook page age called are We Dating the Same
Guy? This is Stephanie I telling us about are We Dating the Same Guy?
You may want to check it out. It is a Facebook page in
Rochester and Buffalo and probably every city across the United States. Leave built voicemail
any time at five eight five two o six eighty eight sixty six and be
sure to like and subscribe to Bilified wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for
getting your pot on. We do get text at five A five two six
eighty eight sixty six. I got one that said sorry and I'm an episode
behind. But talking about health issues being young. About three years ago,
at the start of COVID, I was short of breath, took it as
I hit forty, wasn't working out, et cetera. Normal getting old,
but found a minor mitel valve leak in my heart. Well it sounds like
me. I had that same, missue, you had a mitel valve leak.
I have a naortica leak in my heart. They have to check it
every two years to an echo cardiogramm. That guy could have been born with
it, though he's had a broken heart for a while. Where does the
heart go? Where does the blood go? I think it just like leaks
out. Yeah, it just hangs out. It drips down my heart like
you know the picture of Jesus, like where the like the Catholic picture where
like they have the uh yeah, that's that's where it looks like this guy.
Right fast forward to December. First, I went from my check up
and I had pretty much failed. Just had to replaced the valve on January
eleventh. Yeah, buddy, we'll get that done a note time, but
don't do it yourself, let me handle it. It's honestly crazy, because
I felt decent. Yet my valve was like Swiss cheese. Life is crazy.
That's from Robert young now here. It would be my thing. I'd
love to know if Robert's married or not, because married guys live longer because
their wives make them go to the doctor. Yes, right, And and
but then I heard a story of a guy who's married and didn't go to
the dock. And I just heard this. I don't even know who told
it to me, but it was a friend of theirs, I guess.
Was just not looking good, turning green, and had been one and discomfort
and all this stuff. And he went and had he went into the doctor
and he had a major infection, and they thought they were gonna have to
remove a portion of his intestines. Okay, turns out that is appendix burst
like months earlier. But it all stayed there, Oh my gosh, slowly
this stuff was leaking, so he didn't have to have this major operation.
But I go, I'm like, what the fuck's the point of being married?
Then? Yeah, right, right, she didn't make you go to
the doctor. What are you gonna do? But yeah, I just heard
about that today. When I was a lucky guy, really well, very
lucky. Yeah yeah, usual when breaks, that's not a good situation.
No, it's not much toast. Well. I remember when I worked with
Detulio. I think de Tulio was telling a story about how his wife kept
telling him like he was saying, I'm in so much pain, I'm in
so much pain. And his stomach was all bloated, and she's like,
he probably ate something or whatever. And she went to bed and he couldn't
sleep, and he woke up in more pain, and he drove himself to
the emergency room and I had to have emergency. Well, she was condect
to me, Yeah, honey, ye this that you had kidney stones.
I drove myself. I thought I was gonna puke about three times, and
it was never. I've never had, never had the kidney st Stay away
from ice tea anything dark iced tea causesrown. Liquid coffee, and I love
coffee and I love Guinness. I haven't had a kidney stone. Moderation,
Billy, a lot of water. The keta life is moderation. Yeah,
clear, that's very true. That's very true. Now a lot of times
there's uh, you know when when you are no longer married, you want
to go out and start dating. And Danny told me about a sight where
people are getting themselves in trouble. Are we dating the same guy? And
then Stephanie says, there's a Rochester edition of this side. So I'm single.
So if you know any good guys out there, but careful, careful,
no, but it's to protect women from shitty guys. And you won't
believe how many cheaters are getting busted on on this website. So it's a
Facebook group Are we dating the same guy? Rochester? And people will put
up a picture and they'll say tea and or any red flags and you don't
want to just you can't be mean like he's ugly. You have to say
facts like we dated, he loved bombed me, or he tried to rape
me. What's love? You don't know what that is? When they like
call and text I love you. We should get married. We have so
much in common, you're like, whoa what are you? Was like one
date? You know, it's like slow down, it's called love guys that
oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah much. I've talked to crush bombed.
You've seen guys on this website that you've talked to or any guys. Oh
never mind, I got a backpedal off of this one. Yeah, any
guys you've gone out with that you've seen them, you have, yes,
And it was really sad. I will not mention any names, but I
really like this guy and he's still I'm not ready to date for like a
year or so, and I'm like okay, because you know, out of
a divorce and did a couple of dates and all of a sudden it's pictures
on there and this girl's like, we've been dating for like six months as
anyone else. And I'm like what, So I was like, call me,
and then sure enough they she so, so hang on a second,
hang on time out. So you go on there and this woman says,
we've been so what makes you SUSPICI obviously there's a lack of trust. And
then I guess well. I ended up talking to the guy because he's like,
why did you ruin my life? I'm like, you're the one that
dated me? Like it got crazy. So there's like women that are like
undercover on there and they're like busting the girls that read out the guy.
So like men have allies in the group I got you while this is this
is the real drama. Yeah see this is where here's where my head would
go if you were suspicious of the person doing something his back away. So
get this. I have a girlfriend. She's dating the guy that's sixty and
he's whatever, a good worker. She doesn't think he would do anything wrong.
She's like, he's just vanilla, you know. Yeah, I see
him on there. So he's big into I love Buffalo, I got friends.
I see Sabers games. But you know, no, just with the
boys. The boys. He never let her. He got on a dating
app in Buffalo and when he'd be in Buffalo been taking haties out in Buffalo.
It's like, and she she's on here like crazy, it's so my
so is your side business? Like detective? Are you like all? I
have so many people join one of my best friends, she's married, she's
on it now because like every day you're like, you see coworkers, you
see people you know that are on this site. Yeah that are so it's
just guys, and the guys don't know they're on there. The guys don't
know, right, they have like an undercover like another. So if you're
a single guy, you need a girl and let me know if I show
up. How do you get approved to be in the group. You got
to ask questions. Your profile has to least be a year old, too,
and you're not supposed to share. It's supposed to be like a sacred
space. But now there's drama because some girls are sharing, and then they're
calling out the girls. Hey someone so said this about you. They take
a screenshot and they show them what you said, and it's causing all sorts
of like chaos. Wow, there's a whole sub subculture. I have no
idea about it. Well, a lot of guys don't know. So,
especially Rochester where everybody's like two degrees away from somebody. The goal is to
just not be shitty, you know. Yeah, holy this, mistakes happen,
but there's a way to get buss Yeah what if you like if it
just doesn't work out. But somebody got offended because they put a little bit
invested in a little bit more than the other person. So I was nice.
I saw a guy on there. He wasn't for me. I said,
listen. He's a great guy, really smart, funny, but he's
a little bit of a love bomber because he was just too much for me,
so I said it on there. So there are people that say nice
things like, oh, I went to high school with them, he's a
phenomenal man. You should date them. So there is a lot of positives
like a scouting report for the drafts hands forty times very affectionate. The cons
can't I don't want to have a great forty times last long. Well,
sometimes like a girl pulls a picture body and we're like, who is what
is his full name? And like everybody wants in on it, like look
at good reviews. See that would be like a real compliment if you had
if you found that out about yourself, wouldn't wouldn't that be nice? Absolutely
nice? That'd be weird. So here's what I'm stuck on. If you
were going out with somebody and he didn't say it was exclusive, that's so
the guy. Don't you think, Yeah, is that fair to say?
Because I would only say, like, let's say a guy's going out and
he's dating, or even a woman she's dating a couple of different people,
you're allowed to do. That's what happened with me. My guy told me
he wasn't ready, but the girl, you know that said six months.
He never said exclusive with her, so it kind of oh, but but
he was love vombit her. No, it's great, but she assumed they
were to relatelationship. But he's like, I never said I never vocalized that.
Yeah, so you got I guess, be clear and you find it.
I think I think that people who get who get out of a marriage
are looking to get into something that's going to be just to steady. Right,
it's just going to be exclusive, Like it's almost an unspoken I think
some people. I think some people do. Can we say bad things on
here? Divorced men go through horror phase when they're done. They they have
a year or two they play and then after that we call horror phase,
and then they want to settle down to looking for something steady. You get
out, you're like run, it's like a spectrum. Okay, now he's
in his horror phase. Yes, yes, then he's in his You don't
want another girl to snag him, mabe, it's nine months from now he's
going to grab and you really like him. So it's like it's like the
NFL Draft compound. So let's say there's a guy that gets is divorced three
months three months out. You know he's in the proverbial horror face for sure.
But but you liked him, you really liked him. Like everything seems
to really work. How do you keep that? I'm going to wait,
I'm like waits later, you're like, hey, you want to go fishing?
Yeah, fishing with an a Ph'll give you a thirty year old and
a forty year old for the number thirteen. Pick over here. This is
who knew no s. Is there another site for guys to to do the
same thing. Yes, but it's not as popular. Well, of course
not, you know, because guys still give a ship. They don't give
a ship. We don't care. It's like whatever, Like the sheriff of
Doningham, you a ten thirty, you a ten forty five and bring your
friend. Yes. So, now, have you ever seen anybody that's well
known in town on there? Yes you have. I'm not asking who,
No, I would never know, just write them down. Have you ever
seen anybody who's well known that may be in a committed relationship of whether or
not married, whether legal or not. It's assume that that person's in the
committed relationship, and now you're seeing them on this ship. Show. Yeah,
it's very entertaining. That's why I recommend all my girlfriends. What is
the name of it? Are we dating the same guy? Rochester? Okay,
we're not supposed to share it with men. It's just to keep No,
no, we won't. Men can't get in, right, you can't.
Can we put your picture on? Just see how many cads get off?
I know you kind of wonder some dirty you ever needs somebody shade like
any chea on him. But that's happening. So I had a Google It
is spilled the t okay, and then you wave the red it's no longer
spilling the tea. It's just tea. But you don't want to get food.
So there's like this. There's paragraphs, paragraphs like listen what you say?
You know, libel, slander, they scare you so like you have
to say factual things and not just mean things. Okay, what is the
meanest thing you've read about a guy on there? Yeah? Little and doesn't
work. Okay, even in this age of medication. Billy, Well,
yeah, he needs two via girls like you won't feel it with him.
But there's the other side of that too. It could be other situations that
are bigger too. Well you could say that, but I it's usually not
the case, but I don't know. Yeah, girls are harsh, Yeah
they are. Yeah, wow, I'm saying they are. Yeah, they
can be they can be harsh. Yeah, harsh with those branches. This
is very interesting to know. Yes, I would like somebody to go on
there and and uh, you'll get like kicked off, like if I should
you get banned or like no man, no man, no sharing. Well,
no man can be honest. So that means you need a sponsor,
a woman to sponsor. But that's supposed to be illegal, but it is
happening. Yeah, undercovers. Why would have Why would a woman want to
help another guy? Like does she think that's going to get her in good
standing with the guy? What if it's like let's say it's your brother,
that's all that's happened. Okay, that has happened one guy where the ex
wife was on there and she's like you this is the father of my children,
Like yeah, so there's a lot of different but he's doing stuff.
Yeah. Wow, who knew all this drama was going? Does the I
team know about this? A Channel ten? Do they know? I don't
know what would you like them to call Berkeley Breens. I like to follow
like the marketing, the trend of it. And when I first joined,
I think it had maybe eight thousand members. Let's see what we're up to
now that's a lot. No, this is the Buffalo one. How many
is Buffalo one have forty one thousand? Forty one thousands? Look at all
the bills though, we're up to eighteen thousand now in Rochester. In Rochester,
like, I know women who I went to high school with who literally
just get themselves still at forty two, forty three years old, get themselves
all dolled up to just go out and try to like chase bills, Buffalo
bills or Buffalo sabers. Oh yeah, to this day they do it.
I know a couple of them had kids with past athletes and stuff like that
who have come through town. Oh yeah, it's like a it's like a
quasi professor. What are you saying about forty year old? No? No,
I'm forty three. No, I'm saying like no, like like,
well, usually bills are in the twenty to thirty range, you know what
I'm saying. They're a lot younger, but they're they have money and means
and all this other stuff. And they want to they're rich and they want
to play shape. They want to play Real Housewives of Buffalo, but they
like cougars. It's that's that's that's true. True, that's a great point.
It's true. I get asked out by somebody like low twenties, maybe
one a month. I can't believe. I'm like, how forty, I
could be your mom, you're twenty three, But it happens you have you
gone on a day with the twenty three years? O? Why? Because?
Why waste my time? Well? It could be fun? Who says
it has to be serious? Right, You're not gonna end up on that
website for fun. I feel like someone sees me out with this and then
I can't true. But they're just none of their business. You're just friends.
He's just my friend. That's a fun subject. I don't believe in
friends in the opposite sex. Somebody usually wants somebody. She's right. I
want a king and I want girlfriends. And I'm telling you that's how it
is. And people have a hard time. When I first meet a guy,
tell him right away it's how I want to live. A lot of
people, are you tell them how you want to live. I want just
a man and friends that are women. Oh gotcha? Yeah, so I
come out. You know if they have like five girlfriends, it makes me
Okay. There's people you work with, you know that grab lunch. I
I do that too, like my bankers or my attorneys. That happens.
But somebody that I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey on the
phone with all the time, doing private dinners all the time. Yeah.
Again, so you wouldn't want to have a Jerry to have in a lane
if you were dating a Jerry. No giving your side felt Yeah, okay,
all right, So like guys, all the friends one themselves, Well
can we hang out? I'm like, no, I don't. I don't
want that. Yeah, but you're upfront about what you want exactly and what
you don't want more important, so right away and some hate it. Yeah,
but you know what though, I'd rather know that front, yeah,
and then move on. You don't waste your exceptions. If you're like Kelly.
I've known her since I was seventeen, she's married. I just got
this one. Obviously, that's like an exception. You're not like a chronic
guy with like a you know, twelve close women, you know, and
you gotta come with like a It's like a CIA inquisition with you. It's
like, wait a second, how many girls friend talk about it? It's
like a medical report your charge. I looked at your U of R my
chart, and it appears that you ask that what what do you ask for?
Medical chart? No? No, before anything physical happening. I sent
him to the doctor like that, do that panel or not? I'm serious.
Yeah, but you know what though, wait you what the guy's fucking
lying if there's no no stop. I've had I've had women when I was
dating after the who phase, when I got into the more a relationship phase,
I actually had a girl show me like she look, I have all
the I have tested, I've taken all the tests, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, Like you want me to do this too? She goes,
yeah, I want to see your pedigree. Yeah it could be my
friend. Yeah, but she likes she because they do that, they do
that stuff. Okay, okay, okay, all right, this is all
like very strange to me. Okay, I mean I understand it, and
I get it. I do get it for health reasons and things like that.
I mean, it's scary. It came out of a pandemic. This
is a pre pandemic. Well I understand, right, Well, I think
it's Rochester. It's my whole life though pretty much Rochester has been the chlamitte
a capital, I believe, yes, but probably we lead the league in
STDs, Yeah we do. We leave the league or STI is now they
had to change the name because they got bored. Okay, so how but
how does that conversation go? So I'm really up front, and you know,
a lot of people I call it sport fucking They just up and I
don't do that. There's no sport. I live by this code, like
you gotta be STD tested and you gotta have a level of commitment with me
before I'm going to do anything. Okay kind of because you know, like
guys you started, I just say it, and some are against it and
some love it. What if they have diabetes? Is that is that in
the gray area? What if they have a leaky heartfelt? Yeah, because
like if they could drop dead or something, and if you if you could
get one of the guy dies in bed right, you know right, you
literally fucked him to death. I mean, it's a great way to go
that's how stone cold Steve Austin said he wants to die. It's gonna be
so then you gotta go on there and go. You know this guy,
he's dead. I killed him. It was good, by the way.
Do then go hey, her house opening is opening up. Do you need
to sell your house? Or if there's a divorce, did you sell your
house? The parents? I can list that. That's funny. That reminds
me. I got letters in my house from somebody and we read them.
We didn't read them on the air. I read them, yes, not
on the air. I read them in my mind. But somebody texted in
going Moran, I feel like you're being baited with the yellow paper stalker,
don't bite. Somebody sent me letters to where I live. Two letters,
yeah, front and back, basically saying that they would be my sport.
Fuck yeah right didn't. I don't know about that, but I would just
say that that was that was the thing, and that creeped me out.
What's your shirt? Say? Are you good to go? I don't know.
I don't know. You know what, that's a good thing. Maybe
I could lie. I wish more people would actually do that. Does Rochester
Regional have to have the same thing as I would lie and go man,
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eighty eight sixty six. Hey Dan, you know what is she hot or
attractive? You know the difference? Yeah, about forty five pounds. I'll
do us all a favor, choke a fat bitch out and move on and
be sure to like and subscribe to Billifiever you get your podcast. I like
women of all shapes and sizes, so you could be hot and danscriminated.
I do not discriminate scriminating that's right, does not discriminate. Could be with
a super tall one. Oh yeah really yeah, as long as you're not
sloppy and you have all your teeth, I'm good. I'm not saying that
anybody. You gotta be a travel sometimes without the teeth, it canna be
better. Waist high, no teeth, I uh yeah, but he loves
nursing homes. No standards, Dad, no, no ice. Dan doesn't
know they have to be if you could be hot, some guys like that.
No, I don't go. I don't use that as a standard to
me, Like beautiful is beautiful. You know what I'm saying. You have
to be attractive. I mean, like you could be hot and some people,
you know, you could be hot and heavy. So I want to
try to help out the men listeners. Okay, all right, so stiff
and that you have to answer and you're always honest. So do women prefer
to be called beautiful or hot? Beautiful? Yeah? Yeah, but there's
times we want to also hear hot. So I haven't. I'm such a
male and I'm such a childish male because I think it's hot. Encompass is
beautiful, Well, it's it's just a cheaper version why. It's like it's
an economical version of beautiful. It's like a cheaper word because hot is just
like it could also be like in the moment, but beautiful, it's all
fall in love with. Yeah. I think they just want to you.
Yeah. Or it could be like that's what I've been doing wrong about the
years. There you go, damn it, don't say those Google limits.
Don't. What are we tasting now? All right, we're gonna taste this
looks dangerous home one on the right, all right, I'm trying to a
nice fruity smell to me anyways. One is like one's a little spicy,
one's a little more fruity. Yeah, I'm gonna guess the azul is the
fruitier one. It's actually way better than I thought it would be, like,
way better than I thought. That's really nice. Yeah, whoa,
I got the Rick Flairs going. I think one is the class and the
pepperers, yeah dragon only, Yeah, the peppier, describe it peppier?
Yeah yeah, okay, so the peppier one. What's the one on the
right for me? What's the first glass here? I'll tell you guys when
you're ready. Okay, I'm ready okay, so you poured minds, don't
remember which one was? Okay, yeah, right, which one was which?
So the one on the right is class yeah, okay, okay,
you were right. Yeah, the fruitier Yeah, and then the other one
we're both very smooth though, yeah wow. Yeah, and I feel like
the one on my left was glass as yes, yep, yep, you
got that. You got the tasting very yeah. I kept them in line
because very different. They do very different. This one. Yeah, I
know because you you've poured a lot. Yeah, I poured yours. Wow,
it's good stuff. This is really yeah, this is really really nice.
What does a bottle of a zool go for? Can you say without?
Or is that too tacky? No? This one, I actually got
this and it was like one sixty holy ship in the and the casse dragons
dragons, Yeah, I think was like I don't know no, wow,
yeah, I had no idea. I am in the wrong business. Yeah,
I can work in the winners. Work in the winners. Again.
I know the woman that is the regional manager distributor for for this for the
well, maybe they need a sponsor. Yeah, let's see, maybe we
get a sponsor here. We got wall space we could put them on the
wall, they could be on the cameras. We can make all that happen,
right, we drunk every sun. Oh god, we'd have tastings.
Actually, it would be pretty interesting because I have to say, like tequila
was such a turn off. Well, in college I did shots at tequila,
and then I remember my buddy turned twenty one and we tried to make
him do a shot at tequila every ten minutes until he was like blackout,
puke and and very stupid and dumb that we did that. But after that,
I just was like, tequila tequila. Now it's I don't want to
say in vote, but in Vogue it isn't. It's it's much more popular
now and it's considered an upper and you've said the best alcohol. I know,
brother, we we's raised about it sipping. I never again. I'm
a vodka guy. Yeah. And Jennifer would drink tequila and do tequila water.
Yeah. And so one day I was like, all right, let's
try it. And it was pretty good. It was nice, but I
again, tequila really high end my truth serum. So you're not drinking it
before you go to court, no joking, no, no, no,
no, no, I'm also not drinking before I go on a dator.
Yeah right, yeah, because I might say you're hot. Yeah, you
pull the panel, Brian, that would be all right now the day,
Yeah, probably they're not gonna want to hear that in the date. They're
going to hear your beautiful afterwards. I'm supposed to say they're hot, that's
what I'm getting, or this is hot whatever you're doing. Yeah, porn
tequila, I don't know. Next time, what level choke would you like?
Can we up at a level? So tell me about more about the
clutch tequila where like these are obviously very high in tequila's but when you have
when you get something like a I don't know, cosamigo, So how much
does that go for? Okay, no, I don't know. Is that
mail in rebate? It sounds about like the average bottle, right, it
would be the average bottle of whiskey or okay, fifty four? Is it?
Does it taste this smooth? It's really good? It's really good.
Yeah, I think it's this is like, I think it's in between these
two flavors. I would place it better. I feel bad for your friend,
Yeah, the dragon friend I think tastes better than that you do.
Yeah, yeah, and you're liking a fit is that all you drink is
tequila and vodka. Tequila is like my favorite. Yeah, I did not
know, girl. I think since like the nineties, I think tequila has
taken on different marketing, Like the tequila people have marketed it differently to make
it more sophisticated audience. Where whereas when we were in the nineties, in
the two thousands, it was like a college drink. Oh, through your
shot, it's going down to it's like always the worm it was. I
think it was considered a lesser like lime and salt. But I just thought
something great. If you like a jalapeno margarita, want this because this is
pepri or a more great fruit paloma. So that's I think it depends on
your flavor, right. You know, there's a I don't nothing about tequila,
but I uh, I'm a fan. Yeah, it's not bad to
do. I want to chug a glass. I don't. One of my
One of things you have to be careful of for me anyways with tequila is
I've learned I'm a volume drinker, so yeah, I just continuously drink stuff
and if it's pure alcohol. Like we go to iron smoke and I'm,
you know, having whiskey. I gotta have that with a ton of water
because otherwise I can't walk. So but the thing with tequila for me is
you got I gotta have something with it, because if you just drink it,
it's it's true. Sam, It's what are you gonna tell us?
I want to know. I'm already saying too much, already all of a
sudden, this is contributed podcast, you know, with all this stuff.
I did see a story in the Times in Wayne County and it's about a
thirty six year old woman. And I always say that we telling ourselves on
social media. Yes we do, Billy, It's why I don't do it
now. They have her name as uh Senna s E n n A,
but her real name is Sheena. They messed a mess and myth mist the
nature meth fact something with that. But she's charged with third degree or raped
in the third degree and endangering the welfare of a child. Allegedly she had
sex on a number of occasions with somebody under the age of seventeen. So
I had to go see what Sheena look like. I had to look her
up okay, and she has got the worst sexy reels. They're reels that
she puts up there, and I mean, what, Yeah, it's bad
because you're telling yourself she's in her underwear, she's posed. They're called thirst
traps, Greg, have you heard of this? Have you heard of this?
The first trap? In other words, I want to get all these
guys to look at me and click on me and like me, tell me
I am right, and then they do what they send it to tell them
what only fans? Oh, honey, yes, because I work in media
that I know that. But I'm with you. I've never been to an
only fans and it's funny. I have an only fans story that will go
to right out of this because but in this like you need to consult people
with this stuff. I can see she took these pictures in the bathroom and
she's got like obviously she broke up with them because there's some kind of lyrics
that are under this song and she's posy. What does it kill me?
Makes me stronger? Okay? You want to know what I noticed in the
picture? Gone the water damage on the ceilings, like fix those styles?
Yeah, I probably, I'm sure. I'm staring at I go the fuck
I always all I could see was like the water stands on the ceiling.
Sometimes it's the baby on the diaper with the Bible in the background and the
toddlers taking the picture. You didn't notice the color brash you had on.
I couldn't tell you prescriptions. Oh who is the ballplayer? Was it Leaf
that used to go Ryan Leaf? Used to go look at high end house?
Yeah, Ryan Leaf, And you go through their houses and like hoping
up the medicine cabbe or whatever. Yeah. People still do that. Yeah,
I'm sure all my listings. I'm like, get rid of your jewelry,
get rid of your guns, get rid of your medication. You know,
wait, because they steal all that stuff. No, no, but
you never know. Yeah, people can look through things. I'm like,
get rid of anything personal, you know, get rid of anything that identifies
you own this house. Well, sure you wouldn't want to. One time
I saw this house and inside one of the cabinets were all of their passwords
to everything, Like it was like an elderly I'm like, I ripped it
off the wall to the listing agent, like I tucked it somewhere. I'm
like, you can't do that. What do you tell them to do with
the safe rooms? Tell them to lock that? Well, they have to
figure out the fibonac to get in. Yes, you lock it. Yeah,
And you wouldn't say it's a sex room. You would say something like,
you know their job, they have a lot of sensitive personal information for
their career. They have to keep it. You make it seem like it's
for work. Gotcha, I've ever seen someone lift weights like this? What
do you tie this to? What bench is that? Wow? Are they
do? They collect antiques? It's like a torture device? Seventeen hundred?
What is it? The stockades? Yeah? I think there's some weird stuff
going on. So you bring up OnlyFans. Okay, So what it is?
You can girls and guys get to set their monthly fee and then you
get a package. So I could be like, hey, fifty nine to
ninety nine a month, I'm gonna give you two vagina shots, three whatever
whatever it is. Show you're gonna get four videos and like they have different
prices and what they do, and then you can pay and request and then
for extra amount. Wait a second, wait, so what a thirst trap
is. Let's say she's in a bikini on Instagram like hey, and then
she tries to get people to go to her only Fans where she can get
a monthly subscription. She'll put up a link in her Instagram or her Twitter
and then you click on the link and that will get her. Now here's
a subscription package. You want to see more of this stuff, you know?
Or some girls just do it for attention, just to get clicks,
Like there's yeah yeah Dan, can you look up the yeah face? Oh
you're not on face. I'm not on face. Never mind. And then
there's Finder, but she might be on Instagram. Why would say I think
it's bickle foot Finder? What's foot Finder? Rex? Ryan owns it?
Is it? Yeah? Yeah? What's the one? There's a website?
I really don't know. I'm sure there is. I don't know. I
didn't even know it only on so only things. So people find it on
Instagram and then you got to pay money to see them so only. It's
like it's like amateur porn. Yes, it is porn. It is porn,
but amateur porn, well, I mean amateur meaning that they're not I
guess they're getting paid for They're not amateurs anymore, right, it's called feet
find There's no such thing as amateurs, but you see feet picks for sale
on feet finder dot com. Find her. So these are sometimes porn stars
have gone to this. Uh, celebrities have gone to do some of it.
Yeah, some like uh the one that uh yeah, that's similar to
her. Yeah, I think so. So she was like a sixteen year
old, So people say she was with like either somebody under seventeen. I
could be sixteen. I don't know. Oh, I think you should clarify.
I think it's different sixteen and three. That's well, it's not exactly,
No, she's not. That would be a pedophile. Well, it
would still be by the law, considered a pedophile. You're right. Uh.
And one of the things that else I want to point out, yes,
with people for you know, particularly people have kids. Remember, a
woman cannot consent to sex if she's intoxicated, regardless of the rage. Gotcha.
So if somebody is twenty two and intoxicated and you have sex with them,
they can't consent to having sex and there can be rape. I feel
like guys need to have them so you find something, get it on video
footage. Talk to Steve Circu about this you know what. He knows about
this much more than me. Yeah, but it's as scary, I mean,
and for good reason. You want to be careful on me said,
but I mean, those are these are things that I've learned later in my
life as I've seen people go through it and kids go through it. And
Steve circ is the criminal foster and he's great. Bring it up to him
on that. It's a you know, for kids these days, everyone's like,
all right, kids these days are soft, they're easy, they're snowflakes.
You know, they got stuff that they got to do with stuff like
that. Didn't really know it didn't exist. I didn't it exists. You
didn't get you get photos sent to you of anybody. Never again, I've
never gotten the shot. If you get the right only not price paying for
that, but you do another way, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
well that's honest, right, that's very honest. But the only fans thing
is interesting because there are people on there claiming that they make millions of dollars
a year. So yeah, I'm sure the I RUS is fouling up on
that. Yes, oh yes, telling people telling themselves. Yeah, And
I find it kind of hard to believe because then there's a story in the
UH in the New York Post today about a guy, the thirty three year
old guy who was a lawyer and I think became became a judge as thirty
three, and he was charging twelve dollars a month on the platform. Why,
I guess, And then there's a mask on what was he selling legal
advice? Yeah, he was selling start. He would start dismissed and he'd
drop his gap, do your will? What is he his hammer? So
we know of only fans, but what's just form? Oh god, okay
stuff and started starting yes, yeah, it's from this is uh just four
dot fans. I'd never heard of that. He charges another nine ninety nine.
Doesn't say how much this guy he was making over one hundred grand a
year as a performer, and he would get on there and sometimes he would
just masturbate. I don't know what the thing was, and I think he
was gay. But then he wrote a lot of nasty stuff about Eric Adams
New York of New York. So he's down in the New York City area.
Put a bull's eye on your back. Told some council woman on I
think on Twitter to choke on a dick. Yeah, which is I think
probably a good way to keep your job on the scale. Uh, Stephanie,
let's go to you choking on a frank uh one from one to ten.
I'm just joking. Well, right, Greg's responses to the question.
I will say that answered the only fans. I mean this is this is
weird, but people are paying, So there's all this free stuff on.
There's so much stuff going on in the world. But it's like you have
a girlfriend, you get to see you every month, there's like it starts
to become like a connection. I got you browsing. This is like your
girls is Samantha one on one? Yeah? Yeah, like one on one
You're like, hey, can you wear this or do this? And they
feel like it's an emotional connection. Oh my god. So okay, it's
a little disturbing. Well, first just learning that this exists, and I
guess that to me, the way Stephanie describes it, I can get it.
I see it. It makes perfect sense when you talk about dysfunctional relationships,
people that can't share with their spouse or significant other, all these different
Why don't you go to your wife and say, hey, Stephanie, why
don't you wear this. Now, if she says, fine, then why
you gotta go to only fans? I guess the guys that go to the
only fans are the guys wives are like, no, I'm not going to
do they know or they don't communicate, or they don't communicate, which is
a big problem. Communicate. But I do wonder how many are older men
to We're very like that stuff was taboo. Maybe your wife has passed on
and here's a pretty young girl and I feel like she doesn't know me,
right, But I get one on one and I pay her and everything's okay,
it's straight. That's strange. There's so much stuff happen to money,
but then it affects your reputation. Then you meet a nice guy and he's
like, you do what for a living? So it's I coulda So now
I got to ask that question too. Do you have an only fans?
You should? You know? You should say did I interview? Oh my
god, you should say? This is so complicated. I'm I'm I'm retreating.
I see you one only fans. Well, I have a friend who
goes to Canada strip clubs only exclusively. And he told me that since since
the pandemic kind of got lifted. He goes it sucks, and the reason
is because these women don't want to strip anymore. They do only fans,
and it's impacting the strip club industry because now these girls know seriously, he's
telling me this, These girls now know they don't have to take the clothes
off and do dances for guys. They could just go in there in their
house, tip up their phone and back make more buddy more unintended consequences of
God, damn vid. This is the industry that's looking. Yeah, the
gig's a disruptor, but it is the gig economy. That's what it is,
right, It's also part of the attention economy. Look at the economy.
Well yeah, but but look, if people are gonna look, why
not take advantage of it? Yeah, I reputation, Well it is your
reputation if that. But if that's all you're doing after this episode, But
if that's what you're going, if that's all you're doing, I don't know
that that that is necessarily a problem. And there's a lot of times,
like you know, the kids go to school and there's a mom and you
read about that kind of stuff where she's on and yeah, it seems pretty
weird. Yeah, this is a whole world. That girl that was only
fans, no way, are you kidding me? I didn't even know this
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interesting in here in the studio because sharing stories. Now, the last time
we had Stephanie on, she talked about going to see def Leppard by herself
down and you were, yeah, but in the pit right, oh yeah,
really made it to you made it to the second but by yourself,
by yourself, okay. And then so but see that sounds I'm not going
to stop living my life just because I'm single. Well, I don't think
you should stop I don't think you should stop you, but I agree with
you. I would think that like going alone something like that can be a
little there's risk, right, there's risk in helve in that. Yes,
okay, so so hot risk here for her than it is for me to
try. That's what I'm saying, Like it would be absolutely it is unless
you go to South Beach. What happened in South Beach? Oh my god.
I'm a small town kid from Hornell. Yeah, we don't have experiences
like this. But I was down for the Bills game just this past September,
sitting out on the beach on Saturday morning. You know, it's hot,
beautiful, and I'm sitting there at the end and this couple comes and
sits next to me, in their mid thirties and having a drink and just
start bullshit and talking back and forth. I get up and go to the
water and come back and the guy's like, oh, the waitress came and
I told her you want another drink? And I was like, a thanks,
appreciate it. And we're just a little forward, see, yeah,
just a little forward, right. We don't drink it. I did drink
it, but actually she brought it to me when I came back, she
then brought it to me. But we were talking about, you know,
day drinking and you're down here. I was on vacation watching the Bills game.
They hit a couple of kids. They were down there getting away,
and so we're going back and forth, and about two hours later, as
we're talking, they actually asked me if I wanted to join them later that
night. And I was like, for what, I didn't ask that.
I didn't ask that. And they were like, well, you know,
join us, And I was like, what are you talking about? And
he was like, well, at the bar, you know, and then
you can, like you can like be with my wife. And I was
like, was he a cuckhold? I don't know what that is. That's
where I got He's a micro Do you know what? Wait, do you
know what a cukholder is? Yes? Isn't that where they want? They
like watching the watching the watch. Yeah, you can go drill my wife
and I'll and he like films it and he sits in the corner. Yeah.
Now, weren't the Lows in Miami. It's not a cheap hotel,
it's a nice place. Yeah, they were not Bills fans. Oh,
but you know, you could have taken your repression out on whatever team they
like. And so and then and they were and so and so they were
talking about and they're like, oh, we're going to be at the bar
later time after dinner, and you know we we'd love to, you know,
see you later if you're interested. Yeah. Well I was scared shitless.
I like, grab my stuff and ran to get the hell out of
there. I was like I was. It was a weird circumstance. So
I go out to dinner. My buddy comes in with his wife from Rochester.
We go to dinner, we walk, we're walking back to the restaurant,
the hotel restaurant bar, and I'm like, ship you guys, You're
never gonna believe this. I tell them the story. We walk in.
Aren't they there at the end of the bar? Now, don't they wave
to me? You know what I did? I bolted to my room?
Did you really? I freaking ran I? Ran? I was such a
chicken. I would have just gone to the Fountain Blue. But it's a
little further north. But nothing, probably nothing would have would have happened.
Right, most of these people are gonna be cool, but what But here's
the question that every guy at this table was thinking. Was she hot?
Yes, she was hot? You second question, was she natural? Uh?
I don't know. I didn't get close enough to find out it was.
It was. It was well put together my recollection, because here's I
go back to my I run to my room. I tell my buddy,
I'm like, look I got I got to go back to my room because
I didn't know. I seriously I panicked. I started sweating. I ply,
oh my god. And so I go back to my room. My
buddy's down there with his wife after dinner, and they're like, where the
hell are you you freaking down here? Yeah, so I come back down.
They were gone. I was like, oh, thank god, Right,
thank h That wasn't even the worst thing that happened that weekend. What
was the worst time expired? But see, now I had like a traumatic
experience as a kid that as I've gotten older, now I've realized when people
do something like that, I just I go almost ubercom. Right, I
was molested as a kid, so I but I always go ubercom and then
say things like nah, I'm not interested, but I'm flattered, thank you,
thank you. It's not my thing. And most people will you know,
just kind of leave you alone. Then they're not going to mess with
you. But it is a weird thing when you don't, because you get
worried, like it almost feels aggressive first of all, even though it's just,
you know, an invite, but it feels aggressive despite was Stephanie said,
that's like one of the first times I've heard that. I've never had
anybody like blatantly hit on me at a bar. I've just never had that.
Well, most people have never been hit on by a couple. You
know what I'm saying. I mean, here's the thing. I don't know
many I don't know any guys. Yeah, was this the first time you
were down on the beach with long hair? It was look at you,
Sampson, you got swinger hair. What gave it away? The trunks with
the upside down pineapple? I had my chubbies on. There you go.
You gave him a chubby too. You know what you how to avoid those
people? I can tell you from Firstthad experience. Start talking about Jesus and
they will flee. Does anyone ever talked about that? Have you had anything
like that where you've been approached by a couple? Yes, you have many
times, many times. I can see that. Yeah, if you're in
that, I can yeah, absolutely, yes, if you're into that.
If you're a woman, I can see that, because I mean, I'm
too insecure. Do you have a woman bring another dude in? Yeah,
but if one woman, I'm all in. Yeah. Okay, look,
I know that's bad. That's just I'm okay with that. Is that bad?
The girls updating his profile right, yeah, they're they're like, oh
my god, he is the biggest pig, say that at all. They
apparently really like you according to what we know. But what happened to you
when you went down to this def Leopard show where the drummer Alan almost gets
attacked the next day? Did get attacked the next day? Yeah? Some
kid was hiding me hind a pole and he just attacked him and we just
save Rick. We don't know he beat the crap out of the lady Rick.
They just got pounded and then we don't know he hit his head?
Oh wow? Yeh? Did he? Like? Was there given a reason
as to why this kid is like a crazy kid? I didn't know,
or like he's the nicest kid. We don't know why he's like this?
Did he know who he was going after. I don't know. I was
digging, could find anything. He was crazy, but he was smart enough
to attack the drummer with one hand. Yeah, yeah, I know.
He came up on that side is Stephen Adler from Guns and Rouses. It
was the one arm guy. Breck Allen also is an artist like he is.
I'm a hardcore. She even had the shirt. Yes, yeah,
the shirt. Yes, that's legit. That is legit. So what happened
down in the in Miami this time? Oh? You mean with me with
a trafficking So I'm at a high end sushi place by myself and this lady
comes in. She kind of looks like a golfer lady in your little hat.
Oh you're here by yourself? I thought it was funny that she asked
that right away, and I said yes, and we were chatting, and
maybe like seven minutes later, some very attractive guy comes down and sits in
between us and they invite me to Like, he goes, have you seen
magic, Mike, I'm one of the performers and we have eleven o'clock show.
You should come. I was like, huh maybe, and he asked
for my number. He goes I'll text you the details. So did you
give the number? Yeah, your real number, my real mom. Because
lady seemed nice. I'm like a magic Mike show. Why not, like
I lost a very attractive single woman by herself. I thought it was like
a little venue. Or if you were my sister from best friend, I'd
be like, what the fuck are goddamn little show? Yeah, it was
a show just for you, and the lady looked like a nice golfer.
It wasn't like anything trashy or crazy. I'm like, maybe I'll do that.
I go. I don't know, it depends, like you know,
I wanted to go to the cigar bar, and I didn't know. I
was trying to time everything out. That was fun by the way, walking
into the cigar bar. So I do this and then stories next, and
he kept pressure me, so are you coming? Are you coming? Like,
I don't know, I really want to go to the ice cream place,
go to the cigar bar. I don't know, I don't know.
And I just laughed because if they started like putting the heat on, they
show up where I can see him walking around looking for me at the ice
cream bar. Yeah, oh really, I could see him like looking for
me. So I went into another place and then I saw him approach another
single lady that was sitting there, similar things, similar thing. I'm like,
holy shit, they're like going now for these targeting these single women.
So then they were talking her. So then I darted in the cigar bar.
They found me at the cigar bar. Now it's like three minutes to
eleven. I'm like, I thought your show starts at eleven. He says,
oh, well, you want a private show, and no, thank
you, I don't want a private show. And then he's like, come
on, it's sweet number. I'm like, it's in a suite, not
in a venue. He's like, yeah, we can't do that stuff out
in public. And he kept trying to get me to go into this room.
So can you imagine if I was dumb and just went up to the
room, they could have just pulled me in there and drug you and sell
you. They drug you and sell you and they hire your mind pound that's
what happens to women. Can you imagine if I was dumb enough to go
up to that rooms, what would have happened that she scares me, Well,
that scares me too, But because a lot of times I always feel
like that sex trafficking stuff is, well, it's happening over there, it's
happening the show. Yeah, I came to the show. Wow right yeah,
very aggressive too y yeah, and team effort. How do you get?
That's the thing. I never can understand. And he never went to
the show. I saw, so I decided I gotta go bathroom and ran.
Yeah. But I can never we could call him, That's true.
I can never understand how you get somebody to go, I'm gonna do this
with you, you know what I mean, like the whole weather Epstein and
whatever he knew. But right that woman, Yeah, I said, well
I'm alone. I'm not going up to a room alone. We're not going
to hurry. She goes. I'll be there thinking, yeah, right,
why are they so much press? But during the TANM like I always think,
like my favorite story, and I've said this a million times, is
I always think of when somebody's going to commit a crime, how do you
get the other person to do this? It's almost CULTI it's bro It's almost
like you know. I always used to joke my kids are sixteen months apart.
My older boys. If one of them went, hey, what are
you doing Friday night? I don't really have anything going on. I was
thinking to killing mom and dad. I would hope the other one go you're
fucking crazy. No, yeah right, but you know what I'm saying,
how do you get somebody else to join in? Because that whatever was going
on, it wasn't I bet you they were gonna split the money. Hey,
you get her to feel comfortable, let's get her up here. All
you have to do is drug some girl, right, and then you paper
half hour whatever wow, and then you sober the girl up. Oh hone,
you drink too much last night and she doesn't know what happened. That's
a version of sex trafficking, and that happens that happens in western New York.
Yeah, there's a whole division in Buffalo that deals with that. Really.
Yeah, you gotta be careful. I never take a drink from a
stranger. I was at the table. Oh I bought you a white claw?
Hey, yeah, no, thank you, I'm sorry, right,
or I don't even put my drink down, no freaking you. Oh dude,
dude, I'll tell you what as a trophy. As a trophy husband
his arm candy candy. We went when we were doing the break room on
CMF. Yeah, Alex, Yeah, our intern she was out at was
it a tiki bar? Yeah? But what was it called Sea Breeze And
that's not it that I know, that's the amusement park. But there was
somewhere out that way, yeah, something something, some guy roof eed her
and she didn't show up, And then she told us the whole story about
how like her friends finally got her out of there, but the guy kept
trying to get her into her car, his car, right all this.
Yeah, so I mean that hor well. The thing that is, like
I always wondered, why would you want to have sex with someone who it's
basically good. The closest thing to necrophilia today is better than is probably what
they're it's terrible. And that's why his guys, when you see that,
you got to step in. You can't let that shit happen. No,
you can't. That's a great point. And I'll say I've traveled a lot
alone. I've traveled internationally alone, and it's interesting as a guy. People
are always arms length with me to start because if you see a guy traveling
alone, they think they think that they think I'm trying to oh you're trying
to be they trying to be the trafficker where they're like, why is this
weird guy traveling alone? What's up with that? And and and so you
know, once I get to know you and they realize you have kids and
you're there and it's all good, then all of a sudden they warm up
and it's a good time. But I'm traveling wone. I've seen women traveling
alone and it's almost becomes like a It comes to one of two ways.
If there's a group of guys, I always get very suspicious of those guys
with one girl. But you know, for me, I see that and
you kind of like band. I like band with them, like you know,
here, look if you need anything, you know, yeah you're attack
you know, have your fun, but be careful. And but yeah,
it's crazy some of the stuff you see. It's and I've heard, you
know, being in We actually had a para league in Buffalo, and part
of what her goal was and what she's doing now, she's training for us
to be in the division of the FBI that deals with sex trafficking undercover.
That's her thing. Well, you know, I was just thinking, well
why not I mean yeah, but jiu jitsu would be the greatest thing.
Little I'm not no master, can become a master. Cliff dangerous. Do
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the Bilified podcast and our Stephanie Eyed episode. Stephanie one of the people we
met in twenty twenty three as we started the podcast and really a very interesting
person. We heard clips Tonight from Tequila is a Truth Cheerum. You can
hear that episode seventy six and Traveling Alone in episode seventy one. Now,
where does all this come from? Where does this big personality come from?
Who was kind of the mentor and the person who guided Stephanie in life?
Well, that would be her mom and we got to meet her in an
episode we called Sugaring Sue from episode two forty two. It's Stephanie and her
mom Sugar. We figured this is a good song, so since you were
talking about sugaring, this would be Kevin has sent me the Archie's like a
what song? What I'm not connected today v H one Classics because ulator idiot.
Thanks, Kevin, can get better. You know, my husband's going
to give me a little sugar shack to drive around sugar people once, so
you could come to them a sugar shalls like parks from place and say Sue's
sugar shack, like a pop up sugar shack. You're like a waxing Tinkerbell.
So have you ever gotten so you do? You've been a hairdresser your
entire life? Well, thirty five, thirty five years five to thirty six,
thirty I mean sixty five? How old? Bike forty? So what
did you do prior five? Okay? And what did you do five to
sixty five? I've been working, yeah, as a hairdresser, and then
prior to that, what sugar wrist? Sugar? Oh you kidding me?
What my work before I was to stay at home mom? Okay, yeah,
yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. How many How many siblings do
you have? It's a younger sister. Okay, yeah, that's still same
street was overwhelming? Yeah, to go out? Yeah, Well that's the
thing is you need you need, you need a dope conversation and stuff.
Yes, And how many years have you been married? Then? I have
been with my husband since fourteen years old and we've been wow, forty seven
years? Has he a native as well? Down the road? Ye?
Down the road brother's best friend, Your brother's best friend. You're still in
love and they flirt? Were You're the first one I got out of the
big and out of the small town in the big city. Yeah, yes,
for you never came back and your sister still lives there. Yeah,
it's kind of nice though, you know that. It's one of the things,
like my siblings are all spread all over. Actually, my sister just
moved and she lives in d C. But she had been in Denver.
My brother was in Florida. Now he's in Maine, and then my mom's
and running back. My dad's in Jersey. So everybody's kind of out,
but everybody will be together for Thanksgiving. But there's something about even for you,
it's not that far. It's like a two hours two hours, and
I see my whole family, my aunt and uncles, everything. There's something
nice about that. Scholarships for any school she wanted to go to, so
she chose ri Tea. So I'm thinking two hours on the three way that's
good. Yeah, that is because they had Almayer right or one down there.
I was thinking of which would be the best commute. I'm like,
I kind of like a through way drive work at the back, you know,
versus the back country road. So where were you where else did you
go? Where were you looking at? I think Siena in Borland? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, and then yeah, she's very smart. Ri I
t was probably I would out your best took up space, she took up
Yes, So I want to know about like, how how do you go
from so someone says to you, once I wanted Brazilian and then you decided
here's an opportunity. I'll learn how to do this, especially in a small
town. No one else did it. So she's like, I'm on it.
Yeah, but I mean, how do you convince people that this well?
Once word that's a word of mouth things right, yeah, because yeah,
and that's even some people going, hey man, wait, did I
discover a new thing. I'm going to tell you something. I had people
I live in Skyler or you to cow which is almost central New York State,
all the way down to Oneanta, all the way up to Fort Drum.
I mean, is therefore they drove oh yeah, Watertown, Syracuse in
Albany, and I had two or three people come in from Long Island just
for you, because because Long Island, they had to have people that were
yes he did except for refuse to do men. Oh a lot of my
men clients came from all over. Okay. I have a theory that a
lot of times pubic hair style is dictated by porn, and but I don't
know. That was just a theory I always had because you would start to
see no pubic hair on women in porn, and then it sort of became
a mainstream. Well yeah, because you got the seventies porn. Yeah,
the full bush. Right, when someone comes in like that, I asked
him if they had secks lately? Do you still see some people like that?
Yes? Yes, yeah, young I think that's what broke my eyes.
Churches by the strip with those people. But are they young people?
No? I have older people. No, No, I meant with the
big with the big bush, with the big uh. Oh, that's what
I mean. A young girl. Yeah, that's surprising. Yeah, and
that was the end of that. I knew. Now is it coming back
though? That there's a little bit there on there and that's what I'm say
there is. Yeah, that's a nice here. I haven't seen what about
men? So when did you? When did what year? Is my curiosity?
Was the first man that came to you? Oh, twenty eight years
ago? Twenty eight years ago? Okay, so we're going back into like
the ninety five Yeah, and now because now look, we have a whole
grooming product for down there right, So that's the whole you know, manscaping
has become a thing. I do feel this doesn't hurt at all, though,
no it doesn't. Know. The waxing sad for my male customers because
there's no one in this area that I've taught will touch a you know,
do a guy. They won't know because I mean, you do ball the
whole package. It's just awkward because of that the guy. Or plus I'm
old, you know, I'm sixty five, they're what thirty three or something
like that, and you've got to hired on who cares. I don't really
care. First swipe is gone, I got a hate, not let it
go. Mine just disappeared, I trust. Wow. So her business took
off, yeah, oh yeah, word of mouth, and then she became
like a confessional, you know, talk to people about their problems and how
to help their marriage. And well that's what I was going to say.
I think a lot of times hairdressers, you almost I would almost say,
like you could go to school and get a therapy degree and open a hair
salon, and you may do even more better for your community than anything,
because so many people just there's something about that you just I'm sure there are
clients you've had for over twenty years the same Yeah, and you get to
know them intimately in a way, right, sure, and they tell you
things. Yeah, and you probably never met the kid, right, That's
what I'm saying, Like you become like a member of their family. So
what a what are you talking about? Where she helped marriages and things,
Well, because you know they'll talk to me while my husband don't do this,
or I haven't my wife in a year. And I had one guy
say, you know, I haven't had sex, and I go, well,
what are you doing about it? Are you calling her up in the
middle of the day and saying, hey, I've been thinking about you,
or are you going home? Going FuG I mean, there's a big difference
in how you approach your wife. You know, when I was married,
we kind of fell apart a little bit. What happened? She got kids,
got kids, and he's doing this and I'm doing that, and like,
oh, we need some alone time. I've always said that to my
kids. You need to have a date at least once a month without any
kids. You bring your kids to me, And that's what I did,
because it's important. What about Yeah, so in your own marriage. There
was you who did that, because most guys sort of want to take the
lead in terms of that stuff from women. And I would think think,
you know, being a little older, small town, he isn't gonna talk
about feelings whole lot unless you make it okay. Unless you make it okay,
you understand what I'm saying, Like your husband may now have a very
very wonderful relationship conversation that any guy, I know, it's got to be
prodded or or they got to feel very safe. I'm just going to tell
you one thing I said to my husband, Yeah, stop treating me like
your fuck hole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he just went,
what, Yeah, that's just gross. I go, exactly right, and
it changed. Yeah. Well, there's something I'm sure he is. I
mean, I'm sure you know he's gonna be told a couple of times.
But I think there's something about like, as you know, as an older
guy myself, now you learn the importance of things like romance or not even
romance, it's not even the right word. But but I don't know,
there's something about getting up and getting a bottle of water in the middle of
night. If you hear somebody coughing. It's just these little little things really
do mean a lot. That a lot of times you're just like shit,
shut up, you know. And that's and then that's where it begins to
start to dissolve, right, that that stuff goes away. So when people
would say things to you, then I off, Mike, and I hope
you don't mind if I bring this up. And if it is, you
tell me no, go. But the sex toy thing, yeah, So
what happened is you know it would then she talked to women, you know,
when's the last time you had sex? And why are you dressing like
that? You're so frumpy? Like whyt you eat healthy? Try to exercise,
maybe wear some linger? Have you ever give them a dance? What
about buying a sex toy? What about redoing your hair? Come on,
let's try something new. Get in my back room a book, when Cuba
care? Do you have a seventies bush? Let's whax you up? Get
you so, but you start to feel better about your women, right,
anybody right? You start to feel better about yourself when you went she started
coaching them then like they'd be like, well, I don't want to go
where to buy a sex toy? So she was like, got the idea,
I'll start selling them given the advice, and next thing you know,
she had a side business with the sex toys, with the advice, and
then she's saving marriages. And then you know, instead of going instead of
sex toys that a man can't produce what a little bunny can do. Right,
It's that constant, constant thing. So if you're addicted to a little
bunny, then you won't like it. Then you'll always have to have that
little bunny with you. And I tell them try not to always use it,
always use it. Yeah, but sometimes it can be an enhancer,
especially if you haven't had it any year. It's a nice way to introduce,
you know, some fun. Right. She makes a good point.
You don't want to get addicted to it because it'll desensitize you. You.
I'm sure you should have written a book or done something. No, seriously,
because like you, you could have been a TV talk show new y
you think they had. You could have done what Wayne and Garth did,
but really helped people, you know what I mean the cable access. I'm
sure they had a guy who had MS and he was in the war and
it was Agent Orange. Okay. So he came to me and he says,
I can't My marriage is falling apart because I can't do anything. And
I go, here, you go, Merry Christmas. The two of them
came back in. His wife and him came back in to hug me.
The two of them, thank you for giving me our life back. All
right? So how does this guy feel comfortable? Enough? Again, we're
talking about guys. You do see what I'm saying. It's got to be
you made people to feel comfortable. But how did you know to come to
you? Because it was word was out that you were selling the sex toys
in the shop. Yes, everybody, you know. I sometimes I had
him out there until the kids came in. Then I had to put him
in my sugar room and sugar jack so and this, yeah, because there's
another way. So you were almost like a sex therapist then as well.
Right, Oh, earlier I told you about my elderly gentleman who is seventy
nine years old, but I've known him for five years, so let's give
him to seventy five. Okay, okay, And he came in and he's
a swinger, and his wife had colon cancer and she has that poop bag.
Yeah, the colossary bag. Round said please go, just don't embarrass
me, and I will always love you, but please don't embarrass me.
So he went to a swinger bar and he goes, could you sugar me?
I go, why you got all the way time out? So hang
on, I gotta figure this out. So he wasn't a swinger until his
wife got ill. Yes, and then his wife said, I can't have
sex anymore? Why I don't want to? And then this is bad and
I'm embarrassed. And I'm sure the colossmy bag. Remember my grandfather had one.
It can be yasty. Yeah, it's not exactly sexy. No,
it could be a bit of a turn off. I'm sure. But uh.
And so she says, go and do that. And he comes to
you and says, I need you to clean me up. Yeah, because
I cut his hair, okay, and he knew that. I go.
They call it the torture room. Yeah, so I got a little sign
on my room torture room. Is he the oldest guy you've ever done,
the heldlest person you've ever done? Yeah? And so you got them all
cleaned up. And then she also told him, I said, you know,
I don't know how many women you're with, but you know you got
to watch it. Pepe, Let's cover it up, you know, just
because you're not going to get anyone pregnant, you can get that. He
could Robert de Niro just dead. What do you mean, don't be a
fool rapper time you're giving bad advice? Wow, I actually told him to
cover it up. Yes she did. She gave him good advice. So
there's a swinger bar in you to go? Or was he going out of?
Oh yeah, No, I do believe that there's a lot. There
was a whole. When I was in radio, they used to have a
swingers magazine that went around and couples would advertise in this magazine. There was
a magazine and we used to get it at the radio station and you would
see some people and there was a lot of three one five area code for
Syracuse, Syracuse not It was a lot of that are crazy too, WHOA.
When I worked in a hotel, I was the beverage and food manager.
So I had to pull my young bartender out of there because there was
just some crazy shit going on. I'm like, I don't want to be
here, but I don't want to loss it either, So I had to
go in and just sheer shit that was going on. When I was doing
Mornings. After we said left CMF and I was doing Mornings with Tommy,
we had a guy whould call up. He was Scott the Swinger. He
would talk all about the swinger lifestyle. So they were having a meeting in
the back room of tailors. Remember Taylor's was a bar. She was there.
Okay, it was usually I want to say older clientele only because it
was probably people. I mean there was There was probably a guy in his
seventies dancing on the dance floor that night. So we go in there and
I felt like I was watching people at a zoo, you know what I
mean? Well, no, because they were all swingers. So she went
there to observe this. I felt a little bad. There was something about
it that just didn't feel right to me. But something happened that I'll never
forget this. All of a sudden, the guy who would call the radio
show's wife just blows up on a guy like starts just screaming and like yelling
at him and all this stuff. And he's a big dude, and she's
getting in his face and the guy that we're with. Guys, he's shaking
his head. What happened? Apparently they had swung with this couple and then
she she would call her husband and say, hey, do you mind if
I meet so and so, you know, for a little fling on the
side happen and she and he She would always tell her husband. He told
her that he was telling his life and he wasn't. And she blew up
when that happened. I mean, it was like it was. It was
very dramatic, was very very housewivesh kind of drama. But I watched it
unfold, and I did. I felt like I was at a petting zoo,
like a human petting zoo to watch these people. It felt embarrassing.
But swingers with every different kind of fetish you could want. There's leather,
there's whatever you want. It's like a room of just everything. Yeah.
The smell in the hallway wild, you know what I mean, It's just
like, yeah, it's it's gotta be you gotta human gate. Yes,
exactly what you're remembering my motel life. We owned a motel for thirty years.
Wait you did? My in laws did? Yees? It was the
hotel motel I used to make up rooms. Wow, yeah, because I'm
but you gotta do what you gotta do. Those small towns, they were
always looking. They're like everybody always owned business and my well, multiple multiple
streams income. But yeah, not hourly rental rates. Oh yeah, three
hours. It started out when no Lie ten dollars, ten dollars for three
hours, got out of there. It was twenty five dollars for three hours.
Room. I would knock on that door too, yeah yeah, oh
yeah, get them out. Yeah that turned this room over. But then
you, I mean you had to wear rubber gloves. Yeah yeah, wow.
You had one lady. I would nickname a lot of people. Okay,
like one lady was we called her hair lady. She would go in.
She had this huge head of hair, probably all dressed up in fake
looking but like I mean, yeah, they were pigs. They ate like
food all over the place, like they had an orgy of food. Yeah.
Was she a hooker? I don't know. Yeah, it's a big
lady. But called her hair lady. Then I had a guy who was
I called him Potman, and unfortunately he ended up killing his wife and he
never came in again. So it goes my pot man was he the supplier
to tell the story about you thought the killer that came to Slide for the
haircut. Oh Jesus, this is crazy. So that's not nice. So
it's terrible. It is terrible. But we did have a lady get killed
at the Davis Motel. Good thing. She's nice to people. I don't
know. Yeah, so the killer comes in and you cut his hair and
he's got he didn't have a shirt. He didn't have a shirt. So
she's like, honey, let me give you a shirt. This is right
after he killed his wife. No, no, no, this is before.
This is right before he does because he's like in town, do it?
So my mom cuts his hair, gives him a shirt. The shirt
she gives him is rich and I wedding shirt because we had a mechanical bowl
and it said like you've been booked from rich and Stephanie's wedding and that's all
she had at the back of her car. And then it's in his mug
shots. No, sorry, yeah, it was. She gives the guy
what. I think we were divorced at the time. That's probably why she's
like, who gives a ship? Yeah? And then was it the next
day or that same day, the next day, the next thing. So
she was kind to this hurting person that you could have gotten murdered. It's
so sad. And then half mile down the road he kills someone that owns
the She said. The taverns so sad. Yeah, we have a barrow
skylar tavern. Yeah, talk about you never know when someone's on the verge
of explosion. It's just an oddity for someone to walk in with no shirt
on. Yes, because it was kind of cold. You could have been
looking for a fight, you never know, looking for an argument. Yeah,
he said, he jumped out of the window of one of the motel
rooms and we had to happen before, so I believed him. Did you
offer to wax his shoulders or anything? Do you do a lot of men's
backs and stuff? Yeah, I would assume that that's that's probably more popular.
Butts too, you want to do your I have a very furry,
very furry now what she's done, but it would just gross and it would
be very No, you don't know, but you get so you get in
all that stuff. Do you have had to see some of the grossest pieces
of human but different vagina styles. I had no clue. What are you
talking about tell them about the vagina styles. Come on, guys, you
don't know yea, you know there's any yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
yeah, nervous No no, no, no no. I do have
women that ask me, Am I normal? Am I normal? I don't
know. You know you've got any? You got an outing? What does
that mean? You know? They don't even know the difference. I didn't
know that was the thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean, well,
I don't know how women are in locker rooms like guys were. Just you
know, but you got to really be looking to see an innery anywhere out.
Yes, you do, right, and a lot of times you're not
staring but undernd Well, the girls locker room in high school had individual stalls,
persons and curtains. We had just one big room with shower heads.
We would pee on each other. We didn't. It was awful, but
no one. But so you were very used to seeing everybody and it didn't
I think back at a certain age. I don't know, it wasn't when
I was in school, but I heard about swim class was naked in public
schools. Really yeah, not what people swimming swimming naked? The boys the
boys sixty boys separated from the girls. They always were naked. Yeah,
but boys, I don't think they had them. They weren't. They weren't
co ed. No, they didn't have the co ed but it would be
like gym class naked. That's so I did everybody swim naked at the Why?
Yeah? Yeah, before you were conceived. I think it's a I
think it was lady weekend. You know that for all right? But who
asked? Why did you make me on purpose? Do I have? And
she said, yes, honey, you were labored a weekend party. All
right, Well, there we have a child. My father had a heart
attack, so we had nothing to do but sit home and wait for phone
calls because we didn't have cell phones. Right, so they decided let's make
a baby life too short? And I was made. Yeah, and now
did he survive the heart attack? Yes, so he got to meet you
and all that's wonderful, right, that's great. That's uh. I just
never would have asked. Yeah, I always figure that out the people.
You just figure out the math. Yeah. My father always goes, yeah,
you were the honeymoon. It was right after that. It was well,
it was like my birthday September thirtieth, so what was I new year?
See, yeah, yeah, right, that's right, because my brother
was early September, so yeah, and I think he was about two weeks
come earlier. Late, Yeah, yeah you can, but I'm thinking he
was more like Christmas than maybe a little before. Yeah. My parents were
teachers, so they would I didn't know, Yeah, so they would get
snow days. It was back then where you had to listen to the radio
to find out, right, and so my father would say to me once
in a while, we would go try to run into the room. Hey
were our school is closed because they work in different districts, and the door
would be locked. My years later, I remember my father going, what
do you think we were doing in there? When the door was like we
gotta go. We know, we know you guys are got school. No,
it would be early in the morning, so everybody's still be in bed,
but we would go running in to go, yeah we got over school.
We heard it on the radio. But the door would be like you'd
be like running full speed and like hit the door trying to open the knob.
And then he said to me, like, what do you think we
were doing in there? And I just never thought of snow days again never
never ever, ever ever again. So waxing, I'm still stuck on this
seventy eight year old guy going to a swingers bar. That's pretty brave for
him. He said, girls like it, but nothing on it. Yeah,
so he told me that, So now he's a client on repeat.
He's on repeat. How often do you have to go if you're getting waxed?
I usually do everyone about four weeks. Some people are six weeks after
a while of doing them for twenty eight years, they hardly have any hair.
So I'm just in there kind of Yeah, it just made skin.
So what do you think of because I know that laser became a thing.
Yes, yeah, but I did send a girl that drove an hour and
a half up to see me. Yeah, and I wasn't getting any further
with her, so I said, why don't you try lasering? So she's
down in Oneonta. So she's getting lasering, and believe it or not,
her hair is still not staying a way really yeah, So I said,
I feel bad. You're driving three hours round trip for fifteen minutes. Yeah,
you know it's tough right there. Yeah, I didn't kill you.
You know, Irish people have thicker cuticles in their hair. Ye you pull
that hair out and they're bleeding. Oh yeah, ohm, irish. I
don't want to. I can't do it. She did on my legs.
Yeah, I I couldn't handle it. One day Mother's Day, she didn't
wish wish me a happy Mother's Day. And it's Stephanie. I needed to
get this legs. I was screaming other girls and slants and Sue, you
can't be sugar when your daughter in this line. You're scaring the clients.
I'll just shave every don't wish me a happy Mother's Day. Yeah, well
that is pretty tough. That's a bad one. Stuff. I need do
that to your mom. You know. I forgot during COVID. I was
watching my granddaughter and my grandson and I said, here, Kayley, I
want to try this on your legs. She was so hairy. Their first
rip was just it was horrible. She screamed, Sue, I'm never going
to talk to you again. How how old is this kid? She was
what COVID? Maybe she's ten years old? All right, little Harry.
Yeah, she didn't feel the pain on her body. She can wax her
armpits or everything, not even flinching, So she forgets do you do your
own doesn't even flinch and other people like, so she forgets that it's painful
for people. Your harry, let me clean it up. I was doing
some TV stuff for a while. I did my eyebrows and that was.
That was about all I can handle. I tear up, even from no,
I tear up. I think I even had a sneezing fit because you
connect feel. I don't like that. That's so all that. What's the
name of this lot? The cutting Edge? The Cutting Edge? Remember the
Hockey but it's closing. No, she's retiring. The Hockey movie was filmed
in Utica, The Cutting Edge. Oh yeah, they had everybody when I
was so nineteen seventy six is when the movie was produced, because a couple
of us graduated and sat in the Oh how cool. Yeah, they were
filming it. And so you opened the cutting You own the cutting Edge?
Yes, and so what you're not going to sell? My daughter sold our
business and the guys kicking me out because for real, they're living in they're
going to live in Texas. They are going to be snowbirds. So are
you going to split your time? Yeah? But now she's thinking of flying
back and forth maybe every five weeks to do her sugaring that the beach,
yeah you could. Yeah. Where in Texas are you going? Padre Island?
Yeah, that's North Padres So okay. Corpus Christie, Yeah, Corpus
Christy. I hears really really beautiful. I've never been, but I remember
friends well, Padre Island, I remember from MTV Spring Break Friends of Mine.
Yeah, they open there. That's the only way I knew Podca Free
Place on want well close it out for Stephanie Ied who we met in twenty
twenty three and now has a very serious boyfriend, Mike. She and Mike
were in on Our s and m is the title of that episode. In
back and listen to that Stephanie and Mike. It's very interesting and there's a
big heart. Also thanks to Greg Connors who appeared in this episode. Kevin,
Mr Dan Burrillo, I'm Phil Moran, will see you tomorrow. See
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