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is comedy man Paul mccurio, and
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your tickets. And Paul works well, he does a lot of things right,

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but he worked with The Daily Show
for many years works now for Late

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Night with Stephen Colbert. I was
listening to the Strikeforce five podcast a little

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bit, yeah, and uh they
were talking about getting back into it,

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and Steven mentioned people were up his
ass about he forgot about these eleven am

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meetings and he said he's pretty scatterbrained
and he needs people to keep him on

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track. And I don't know how
associated with that you are. Yeah,

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well, there's different meetings that happened
during the course of the day because like

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you're starting the show, like you
got to plan, like everything has to

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happen that day basically, like you're
doing a show that day for that night.

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At five point thirty, we tape
it so like it's it's two hundred

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and something people to make the show
go. And if the guy running it

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is you know wrongk at eleven o'clock
in the morning, it's not going to

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work. And that's why Steven has
to be removed. And I think I'm

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going to be the to the show. Now, all right, congratulations man,

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if you need some staff riders,
good at it. So you guys

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to submit your resume if you want
to. If you want a job,

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I need rice, chrisp retreats and
a turkey baser and you got it.

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What's a resume? We can just
anything on the back of the now.

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No, yeah, so we we
kind of the whole thing is just you

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know, it's a it's a We
went from like, uh, the Daily

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Show had about eighty eighty five people, The Colbert Report had eighty eighty five

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people, and then when it went
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two hundred people. It's a beast. It's an hour. We were doing

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a half hour show four days a
week, two hours of total content a

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week at Comedy Central to five hours
a week at you know, a major

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broadcast network, and you know,
pressure every day, every day, every

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day day. Yeah, yeah,
I wanted to talk to you about the

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pressure thing. I bet there was
such a underdog beauty to the early days

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of the Daily Show. When you're
not on a major network, the expectations

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are probably pretty low and you are
invariably daily for lack of a better word,

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trying to find out where the line
is pushing the envelope, being creative,

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going for an idea that maybe you
hadn't considered that you had that freedom

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to do what you wanted to.
And the only time you probably even knew

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that the bosses knew you existed is
when you pushed the boundary a little bit

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too far. We were just talking
about the previous segment about like two instances

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where we got yelled at because we
went too far, but it was like

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getting yelled at by the President network
literally, but the stuff was getting yelled

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at over comedy, so he could
not he was yelling at us. It

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was about like you know, showing
pictures of like things that were like dildo's

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and saying dildo too many times and
stuff like that for people who weren't listening

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earlier. But he would yell at
us, but like he was laughing through

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the yell, like you can't and
I not to laugh because at the end

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of the day, it's just comedy, sure, but like he was smart

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enough to know let him just blow
the chemistry set up in the basement and

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see what happens. Because when you
know where the line is, that now

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people are gonna start watching because you're
like, can you believe? As opposed

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I was doing the same old joke
like whatever, you know, it's you

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know, like that everybody would be
doing it late night. We wanted to

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just do one step beyond and go
whoa, whoa? Did they just say

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that? Yeah? And so that's
so now like the back and Black segment.

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Lewis Black's a good friend of mine, so my writing partner and I

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created that segment with him because we
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And you guys, know you're creative, you have a show, you do

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segments. The best stuff comes when
you try are not trying to come up

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with something like you just sit in
a room and go, okay, we

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need a bit from like from from
nine forty to nine p. Fifty.

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We just need a bit that we
can, like a refillable bit that we

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could do. And then we throw
ideas around and nothing happens. And then

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like you're in the bathroom taking a
dump and then something comes to you based

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on toilet paper, right, So
what happened was when we would pitch the

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way we pitched shows for The Daily
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and papers and magazines and then you
pitch video, so we'd have a producer

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coming because we would run like a
news feed, like like a news show.

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So we get us we paid for
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get news stories from all over the
country, so we get locals, like

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stories from Plano or Fort Worth,
Texas, or Providence, Rhode Island or

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wherever whatever, Right, and you
call through it the stories, the stories

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you were getting like crazy, like
crazy, like whatever, sorry and so

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like, and we're like, but
but they were too small to do as

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a national story. For John at
the top of the show. They always

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had to be national stories. It
had to be like a sub segment maybe

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later on. Yeah, and even
then, like we had small town news,

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right, you watched the Early Days
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in the beginning, there were three
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second act was this just in and
then the third act was other news.

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And as you went along it could
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still these were too like and a
lot of times it was like a Florida

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man dot dot dot right like and
then we would get these stories like,

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oh yeah, so Florida man says
he saw an image of the Virgin Mary

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and some melted butter. Like it
was crazy, right, yeah, and

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like what are we gonna do with
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we'll look up for something for Lewis
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So we would just find three stories
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each other. We'd make up this
spine among them, and then we'd give

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it to him and he'd rant,
and that's it was. It will be

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to the day my dying day.
The most fun that I ever had was

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sitting in this room every like Tuesday
to produce this piece. So we would

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sit with the producer Lewis, myself
and my writing partner and just go through

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video for like three hours. And
it was like hanging out with your buddies

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in a basement, just saying the
most inappropriate stuff. Ninety percent of what

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we're saying could never get on the
air, but the other ten percent was

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gold. And and by the way, I'm surprised I'm not dead from cancer

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because he was a chainsmoker, Lewis, and so was the producer. And

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this is when you could smoke in
a building and all the windows were closed

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and we're like, it was just
insane and nothing was better when Lewis would

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get so crazed on camera that he
would blow the read because he and he

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couldn't stop, and then we'd have
to retake and everybody's laughing in the studio,

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and it was it was, it
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this like there was this thing.
It was like this thing that came out.

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It was like a necessity that came
out of like, you know,

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just having all these stories and what
are you going to do with them?

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Right, so we gave the Lewis
and when we're off and running and you

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go from that, you know,
kind of renegade TV on a on a

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non major network into evolving and growing
and doing what you're doing now where I'm

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sure you know you said you've talked
about more than doubling the amount of people

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that are working on the Cold Bear
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amazing you talked about the creative process
and you're talking about, hey, we

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need a five minute bit for nine
o'clock and you don't have anything, and

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you end up cramming something in there
and forcing something and that stuff never lands.

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You know, that's going to be
the worst thing that you do.

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But even with all the creative minds
working together, all of the writers mate.

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Like you mentioned earlier, you know, either you have a group of

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writers because one day I've got nothing
and I need to be carried that day.

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Will you get that person's best idea? And then it goes through all

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of the different filters and processes and
producers, and then you run it by

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the network to see if it's okay
to air, and you put it on

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the air and it just doesn't land. That's still a reality. There's no

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science to this that we're all just
schlubs, just winging it, trying to

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do the best that we can,
you know, on a day to day

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basis. And I think that's all
of us in this vast sea of people

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that want to entertain and produce content, as they say nowadays, and we're

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all just trying to do the effing
best that we can. And it's it's

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a struggle. And that's why there's
a rehearsal. And you know, you

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go in with I don't know,
say fifteen jokes, knowing that five of

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them you're probably gonna kill because you're
not sure. You can't find it.

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Sometimes you just can't find it.
Yeah, I mean, I can tell

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you how many times, like I
found it like falling asleep at midnight.

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That was the line I should have
put in there, because it's like taking

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a final, like you never have
enough time. At one point there were

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just six of us writing six headline
jokes a show with multiple punchlines, so

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you'd have to write six different topics
in three hours and try to come up

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with as many shokes you could.
It was like crazy. And now you

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know, then we could say stuff
that I don't even know now, like

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even for my act. Like there's
this whole political correctness thing, which is

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like like it's kind of you know, really taking control of some comedy and

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content and stuff like that, and
like and I think it's gotten. And

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I think comedy should be, whether
it's stand up live or these shows should

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be pushed back and saying the things
that you should be able to say.

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Like I think the I believe in
political correctness. I just think the pendulum

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swung too far. Yeah. I
also believe comedy is a bit of a

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safe space too. Yeah, I
think so too. You know, full

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anything goes, But come to see
my show. I'm just going to tell

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you what I think. I'm not
going to try to offend you. But

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I'm not going to worry that.
Like, the problem is social media is

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empowered everybody. Everybody's trying to catch
everybody. That's what I noticed. What

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did he mean by especially if you're
a white guy, It's like, what

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did he and? And it's gotten
not just like in society. It's funny

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because this just happened the other day. My wife and I were talking about

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the last two nights ago. So
my wife and I walk on our dog

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in Central Park. We live in
New York, so it's lawyer especially have

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a dog on a leash, and
our dog was on a leash, and

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this is the guy who's dog wasn't
on a leash, big dog and little

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kids around. It was scaring people. And my wife, who's like the

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nicest person in the world, just
went up. He goes, excuse me,

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sure your dog should be on a
leash, just like that, just

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like that. What does he do? He goes, why because it's a

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pitbull, like implying that we were
like racist to a pitbulls. And then

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I and I snapped and I went
no, because it's got a baby in

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its mouth, that's why. Okay, because because it has prison tattoos and

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he's smoking Marlboros and he's packing a
switchblade. Okay, like can we just

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stop? Like it's too much?
Like can we just all just sort of

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not try to be at each other's
can't? We are just such little sad,

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insecure week beings just going through this
life just being offended and defending ourselves

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and lashing out because we're just afraid. We're just always afraid of something.

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It's also people don't have I don't. I just look at the glasses half

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full. I don't always assign nefarious
motives to people, like just like people

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do things innocently, like because my
buddy of mine and I were talking about

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it, because like what are you
gonna go for Halloween? And I remember

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you couldn't do this today, but
it was innocent when we did it.

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My parents would dress me every year
as a hobo. That's what they called

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it, like hobo hobo, which
is which is basically we didn't have money

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for a costume. Oh and they
always forgot it was Halloween. It was

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like five o'clock. Just take some
of daddy's old clothes and they put like

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cock on, get some little shopos
something on your face looked like a beard,

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and they send out, well,
you couldn't do that now because I

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was a homeless person. It would
be considered insensitive. And it's true,

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like it was kind of weird if
you think about it. That and and

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our parents dressed us as homeless people
and then sent us out onto the streets

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at night to collect free food in
front of real homeless training. It was

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like when your creative career failure,
you're not gonna get candy and that,

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so you're gonna get baked beans and
a harmonica. That's all you're gonna get.

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And it's like it's so it's just
become this like so like I like

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to talk to the audience, right, I like I really and so in

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fact, and may even be bringing
it here. We're taking I got a

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show called Permission to Speak, which
is uh, it's a theater show that

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I was doing before COVID and New
York Broadway, and it's directed by Frank

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Oz who is Yokol created the Muppets
and awesome, yeah, and and so

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we're taking it out on tour and
it's I I think that we're nameless and

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faceless to each other, but if
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and we're not so divisive. And
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I've been talking my act lately,
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guy in the middle? Can I
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little bit of what you do over
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you because I don't believe in everything, and I'm a little bit of a

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little bit of what you believe over
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Like life lives in the gray area. That's the interesting part of life,

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the nuances I have to believe.
Like can I believe that you should

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have a gun, but maybe you
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this stuff? Right? Like?
You can have all of that stuff?

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And I don't talk politics in my
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can we all just relax. It's
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I just bring people on stage and
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It's randos, not planned, not
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and you've got a plan of how
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less. They go up stuck on
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the time. Yeah, well it's
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They everybody has something, I swear
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you're skilled enough to pull that out
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on, I'll give you. I'll
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clips. But you're deft and skilled
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about, to to kind of manage
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they are, you know, very
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a good point. I know,
within about twenty or thirty seconds. I

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mean, look, you guys are
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listeners and that's why you're great interviewers. And that's half of it. So

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the key for me is I can't
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let the game come to me,
right. So like, if I'm talking

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to you, you have a Texas
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about your life, and I missed
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I got a really good baseball cap
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I screwed myself and I shouldn't.
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listen, and you go to the
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you get gold. I had a
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this is in New York and he
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but we were getting people from all
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Square. War was doing one of
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he just seemed like he was angry, Like so whatever, I go,

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what's going on? He goes,
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do? Like I go, and
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go you seem upset. He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. My

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wife goes, you want a story. I got a story for you,

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because, uh, my wife is
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one rule in the show, which
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sounded like it was like a guy
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Now everybody's leaning in. Now I
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going up and I set the premise
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just described, but we have a
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with boxes. My set was designed
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is Stephen Colbert, because he says, when he's seen me do this,

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he feels like, I am box
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boxes. And if we come out
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know what, you might be far
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but you know so, I'm never
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politics. But we start to connect
and I realized, Oh, this guy's

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got a dog that craps on his
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creps on my furniture. And he's
gonna in law that he hates. And

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I got to well, then maybe
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I'll listen to his politics. And
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up to them. So the guy
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for you. Yeah. So my
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He goes, we go over there
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funeral. So my uh the priest, you know, big fat priest.

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He's fat, fat, fat bastard
fat because and so and so we go

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okay and he goes, So I
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my wife stays to take care of
the estate, and one thing lets or

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another. Apparently the priest starts hitting
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find all this out later he goes, of course, and so then my

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wife, you know, she's like
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he could get in his pants,
her pants. He would go on hikes

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with her. So now the guy
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that fat f is is is bring
my wife and he's down thirty pounds.

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It looks great. The place is
like what And then I go,

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so where's your wife? Now?
Oh, she's living with me in the

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house in Brooklyn. Oh like what
they worked it out or they apartments.

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And I go, you're getting divorced, yeah, I think, so I

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go, well, you got to
let her go. Man. People were

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yelling literally yelling out like you got
a divorce or like that is so New

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York idea. And so it's called
permission to speak. And I really love

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this area and the audiences are great
here, and I want to take it

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here. And so so I like
to another woman. I go, what's

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your name? She goes Nydia.
I go Lydia with an L. And

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you could tell she was annoyed,
because everybody does that. She goes,

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no, Nydia with an N as
a Nancy Nydia. I go, oh,

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that's an unusual name. How'd you
get that name? That's all I

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said. And the reason this works
is because I I think people want to

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tell their stories and sometimes need to
tell their stories because everybody's been told to

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be quiet and be careful what you
say. And this is a safe space.

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You could say whatever you want.
I'm not gonna let you insult people

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and be racist or whatever. Course, I don't care what you say.

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Leave that to John Stewart's exact pay
wearing that tiny dog shirp and living dog

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whatever. Yes, exactly. And
so I go, how'd you get that

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name? She goes, well,
my father, She starts laughing. She

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goes, my father got my mother
pregnant with me, but at the same

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time was having an affair with a
woman named Nidia. And he named me

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after the woman he was having an
affair. Way everybody did what you guys

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just said, they went, oh
my god. And so we've talked a

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lot about writing today. We would
sit in a room. I would give

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you these stories and we would start
writing them and then you say, tear

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it up. No one's going to
believe it. It's not believable. I

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am telling you. Yea, So
we should do that here, let's do

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it. We'll make it happen.
Yeah. So I basically like, yeah,

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I'd love to and love to come
on and you know, promote it

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with you guys and everything. So
we have this really cool set that we

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designed and we're doing rear projection and
my animator is JJ Settlemeyer. He did

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Beavis and Butt, heead, he
did all the STV Funhouse and Frank Oz

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fell in love with it. I
had him on my podcast and I just

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met him once. And I love
to talk about process. I'm like a

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process key because my feeling is like
I've worked in late night TV, but

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they're really marketing shows like the Late
Show, Tonight Show, the marketing shows

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for people to come on in ten
six. So we would have like Bruce

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Springsteen on You have him for two
segments, so that's ten minutes. The

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guy's a musical genius. She talked
to him for three hours. Right,

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It's like, and I my podcast
is just long form? How do you

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do what you do? And Frank
explained how they created them up, It's

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like, puppeteers are not guys that
just like do voices. They imbue their

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own personality traits into the character.
So he created Miss Piggy, Fozzy Bear,

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all of them, right, Cookie
Monster. Miss Piggy is insecure because

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Frank was insecure, and that's why
she's verbose and loud and whatever and in

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your face. Fascinating. I get
chills just talking about it. Right,

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Like, this is the mind of
that show. At its peak had two

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hundred million viewers around the world.
Right, yeah, I have that guy

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in my seat here. I want
to talk to him in his process.

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So I was trying to get this
thing off the ground. I'm like,

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I need somebody to direct me.
So I said, I just called him.

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I only met him once. I
go, would you look at my

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show? I need I'll pay you. He goes, no, no,

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no, sorry, I'll come and
look at it. And he really fell

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in love with it because he said, I feel like there's a humanity to

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the show and we need a show
like this now that can actually kind of

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bring people together in a cool way. But so take that on the road

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man, Yeah, really really.
November eleventh is our first show in New

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Jersey. The November eighteenth, we're
going to Chicago and we're booking we're going

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to be Milwaukee. So it's a
theater show with the set that travels with

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me. Yeah, and when you're
like the thousand, two thousand, three

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thousand, probably a thousand and below, okay, just to see how I

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do. Yes, I don't know
what. Yeah, horn would be great.

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Maybe what was it? Eric Andre
was just here. It was a

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long horn that's we'll touch you,
break and give you a few places.

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And yeah, my podcast is called
Inside Out with Paul mccurrey. I had

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Paul McCartney and I'll tell you that
story next time I come on. Please.

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Yes, you guys are awesome man. Thanks for taking the time and

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hanging out to talk like this on
radio and have this kind of I kind

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of feel like we've done. They
don't like it when we do this.

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They want to bite size, you
know, bite size quick stories hit them

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past. So we just did basically
an hour. We did a podcast live

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on the air. We're probably gonna
get in trouble. I absolutely worth.

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I can give you more funny if
you want. No, no, no

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no, We got to go anywhere
Mercurio, t X dot House of Comedy

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dot net for your tickets. He's
at the plane Out House of Comedy tonight

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and tomorrow night again. Get your
tickets t X dot House of Comedy dot

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net. Paul, thank you for
the time on man. We'll talk to

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you next time you're in town and
we'll go around and let's get this take

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Staples button with me. Yeah,
please start. Thanks guys. Coming up

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next, we got your messages from
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