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the waiting list will be hitting you
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should say here over the next few
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built quite a great community, and
I mean just every podcast, somebody has

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come on and brought some Everybody has
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have all kind of learned together as
a group. And as we continue on

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today, we're actually recording on February
December fifteenth, twenty twenty three. This

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is dropping I think on around the
twenty seventh of December, so we're going

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back to the future with ad Heyd. How are you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing very well, George,
Thank you for having me on.

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Like a little bit nervous because I
know this is going across the world,

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right, across across the world.
We're going global, right, going global.

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Yeah, and across the pond,
like we were discussing before, like

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an old saying, that's true.
I've always said across the pond because I

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actually lived in the US. I
did a summer season at Universal Studios,

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no kidding, Yeah, yeah,
yeah, in two thousand and seven.

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So always used to say, yeah, I've lived across the pond, and

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yeah, I enjoyed my time there
and worked at the Lost Continent which is

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now the Harry Potter World. Nice. So that's down in Florida, World

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right, not down in yeah,
Orlando. Yeah, sorry Orlando. Yeah,

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so I've never actually seen Harry Potter. How did you enjoy the summer

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in Florida? How did you like
the humidity? Yeah? I mean I

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said a little bit introduction to myself. You know, I am half Italian

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born in London, so I'm a
Brittalian. So the hot weather in Florida

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for me was no problem at all. You know, every every thing is

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about two point thirty three pm every
day. You get the downpour of the

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you know, the at that time
of year. Because I did June to

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September, and yeah, I enjoyed
it. I enjoyed it. And at

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the end of that, at the
end of that time, because Orlando is

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a bit like cartoon World, you
know, everything's very designed for tourism and

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it's didn't really feel like the real
US, my dad came over for the

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last three weeks and we did a
road trip from Orlando to New York and

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that kid back down. You know, I went all around the other glades

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in Key West and and then back
to Orlando to fly back to England.

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What a great memory. Huh.
Yeah. Did at the time the world's

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fastest roller coaster and the tallest one
the Kindergar in Jackson, New Jersey.

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Yep, that's great adventure, right, that's right. Yeah, excess Saturn

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Day. That's not too far away
from me a couple of hours already.

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Yeah, absolutely absolutely, once you
go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience.

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Yeah, So, like I said, I am a Brittalian. I

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do speak fluent Italian. I've lived
in Italy as a child. I'm forty

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two years old. I'm a dad. I've lived in seven countries. I've

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lived in Australia, New Zealand.
So Australia exists as a flower for Australian

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does exist, you know, for
the globe shields out there. And yeah,

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I lived in the US. I
did free summers in ib for DJing.

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Obviously lived in the UK because I
was born here. I've studied in

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Finland, in Lapland. So I've
been next to the Arctic Circle. Is

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it sixty degrees north? Sixty degrees
north of the Artics? I have to

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be look Gleason's about whatever. Yeah, yes it is, yes, sixty

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degrees north. So I've not been
to sixty degrees south. You've been in

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north, but we've been to the
sixty degrees north, and yes, I

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studied studied there for an Erasmus and
being out of Italian, I spent about

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five years of my childhood in Italy, so that's why I was able to

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That's why I'm able to speak Italian, and yeah, begin to travel.

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So you know, I've been India
for three times. I've traveled India for

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three months. I've been around Southeast
Asia. I've been all over Southeast Asia,

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including Vietnam. I didn't know about
the Gulf of Tonkin though. At

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that time. I was really into
conspiracies, which I kind of regret now,

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you know, all the travel that
I did and all the places that

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I've been, I wish i'd known
all this information. But yeah, so

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so I pretty much, you know, lived that kind of life. I

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was just taking opportunities to go doing
these different things at DJing, clubbing,

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uh, you know, living in
other countries. So it was kind of

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unaware really of all the talk that
was going on. So so kind of

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you know, So let's start with
maybe September eleven, So September eleventh,

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I was actually ib for in two
thousand and one, and I hadn't watched

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TV all of that summer and we
went to a club on the you know,

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the night before on the tenth,
so we were kind of going back

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to someone's house and it's the first
time that there was a TV in someone's

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house where I'd been to in this
apartment, and we had the TV on

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the background. There was some cartoons
playing and then all of a sudden,

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the twin towers popped up. What's
that? So we kept you know,

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changing the channels in every TV station
had the twin towers on there, and

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eventually we found one with CNN right
because we were in Spain, so it

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was all the Spanish, but this
one had CNN right, so we had

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you know, the chat was in
Spanish, but they had the CNN in

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English. Are very we're able to
understand what was going on, and saw

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the second plane hit, the supposed
second plane or whatever it might have been,

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the explosion go go into the to
the second tower, so you know

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that that you know, seeing that
that was like you know, mine based

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there was it was the trauma mine
based Champea based mind control exactly. Yeah,

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and that that stuck with me for
years. So like September eleventh for

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me was you know like I really
I used to get really emotional about it.

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And it wasn't until about sort of
two thousand and seven, two thousand

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and eight, when I think I
watched Zeitgeist. I think it kind of

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covered that, yep. So so
I kind of like knew that there was

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sort of secret societies. And then
I started questioning nine to eleven because you

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know, none of it really made
any sense. But you know, those

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whole years two thousand and one to
two thousand and four with the Gold Forward,

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the weapons and Master structured all of
this, you know, like it

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was it was a lot. He
kind of kind of gave you the fear.

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You know, living in the UK
as well, there's a lot of

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Muslims here, so you'd always be
a bit wary sometimes, you know,

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certain situations. I was also working
or a major coach company here during the

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seven seven bombings, so I was
dealing with people and were actually evolved in

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that in that situation, So you
know, there was there was a lot

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of that going on. But whilst
I was doing all of that, I

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was living my life, you know, traveling here and there. Anyway,

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So fast forward to twenty twenty,
you know, I kind of believe the

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mainstream narrative of everything, because I
obviously had this sort of doubt. By

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the way, I always had a
doubt with the moon Landing as well,

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since I was a child. I
just I just couldn't quite work out how

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they would film it in the sixties, right, and how they'd make these

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phone calls. You know. I'd
always I'd always that doesn't look real.

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I'd always have that. So I
never I never really trusted the moon landing

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for it as long as I can
remember. Really, you know, I

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wasn't shocked. Let's put it this
way. When I really looked into it,

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I was like, oh, Greigie, that's it is a load of

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nonsense. So so anyway, so
come to twenty twenty. I'm working for

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a major travel company. I'm working
with my Italians, I'm you know,

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speaking to Italians, and they're going
into lockdowns. So I was like,

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this is this is coming here,
this is this is you know, speaking

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to my colleagues around me, Yeah, this is going to happen here.

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They were like thehand, it's fine, it's fine. But it did eventually

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come to the UK, and you
know, it was early early March twenty

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twenty and Funnily enough that the first, the first sort of registered COVID death

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was the day that my brother actually
went into hospital in the same hospital.

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It was the same hospital where they
registered the first step because he'd gone into

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that hospital and that was happened in
that hospital. It was in Reading,

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and I was like, oh,
that's that's a bit too close for comfort,

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right, So yeah, I was
totally totally watching BBC the sky or

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the updates to the point where,
you know, I was going to the

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supermarkets and I'd watched my shopping Know, it's crazy to admit this, but

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you know, you know, I'm
open and honest, little hand sanitizer on

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the letters, just to make sure
it's good to go. Yeah, exactly.

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So I was doing all of this
and my missus, she's she's been

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awake for a very long time,
you know, since the mid eighties really,

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so she's always been anti sort of
establishment, and she would say things

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like to me, like, you
know, I would be like, oh,

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you know, the NHS is good
and all of this, and she'd

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be like, no, no,
no, it's just not good. And

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I was like, what what do
you mean, what do you mean?

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So I think she's the she is
in fact the major point into how I

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woke up. But she'd say things
like I don't have fluorid in my tooth

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based and I was like, when
ant you have florid in your toothpast So

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I stopped buying toothpastes of florid about
maybe twenty twenty eighteen. You know,

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I met her in twenty sixteen to
twenty eighteen, so I'd stop having floored

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them at toothpaste, so it's gone
more natural stuff. I would buy things

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of adaminium products. And I think
this is all of these little things that

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I did help me to the to
the on my journey of the truth.

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You know, it was it was
much easier to to take the information.

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And I think especially knowing that you
know, the glor i'd calcifies your pineal

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gland. Yeah that's right, is
so so yeah, So I you know,

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going back to the you know,
the March twenty twenty time. Believe

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in all the narrative, the point
was my missus she wasn't doubting the whole

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thing, but because I was so
into the updates on the news and everything,

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she started to get the fear and
everything. So it was about early

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April and I actually bought something for
her for her birthday, but it didn't

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get delivered. It got delivered to
a distribution center this package. So I

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went to to pick this up.
And my mum lives in the same town,

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so, which was about half an
hour away from Oxford, and I

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went to get this this this package, and I said, look, I'll

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go and see my mom. I'll
speak to her from the balcony. And

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so I did that. I've got
the package, went to my mom's house

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and she says, look, just
just come up. I'll make you some

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past her. My mum's Italian.
I'm not going I'm not going to say

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it's right. Mum's good gid.
So so I went up and you know,

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we social distres, we didn't the
we did all the things that you

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know, the news told us to
do. And I had this lovely bottle

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pastor. And anyway, so my
missus called me and she said, you've

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gone in the house, haven't you. And I was like, yeah,

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I have, yeah, yeah,
but but we haven't. You know,

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She's like, you're not coming home. You're not coming You've got to stay

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there now for two weeks. You
know, this, this is the whole

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thing that isolate and all this kind
of yeah crap. So I said,

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no, there's no way I'm coming
home. I'm coming home. I haven't

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got anything with me. I'm coming
home. So we got into a bit

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of an argument, and as I
was, you know, driving up,

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had to pull over and and just
yeah, just say, look I am,

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I'm on my way home. I'm
coming back. And the thing that

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the one thing that I said that
made me snap, the snap and click

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in my head was like, I
go into the supermarkets, I'm surrounded by

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loads of people, and then the
supermarkets are not the cleanest places. There's

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people from everywhere. My mum's house
is cleaner than the supermarket, and you're

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happy for me to go to the
supermarket and get the shopping in common.

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So so anyway, chilllled me.
I came back. So for about three

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weeks in my own head, I
was down everything. I down the news.

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I switched it off. I switched
everything off. I just had no

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more updates. I was watching comedy
stuff because it was whilst I was working.

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I had so whilst I was working, because we were working from home.

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We got sent home to work from
the thirtih March, and I have

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my personal laptop, you know,
playing stuff whilst I was working because I

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could do that. And yeah,
I just had comedy on the background doing

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the work, and but but doubting
everything that was going on on the outside.

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And then one day in early May, missus said, I've watched this

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video and I've changed my mind.
I don't believe any of it. And

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I was like, you can't change
your mind just watching the video. And

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I said, I said, YouTube
video. But it wasn't the YouTube video.

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What it was. It was the
David Ike and Brian Rose video that

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got banned on YouTube and was uploaded
to London real Now, I had no

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idea who David Ike was, never
heard of him, never heard of Brian

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I was like, I need,
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to some more things. So I
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cabal. I watched Out of Shadows,

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I found band dot video. I
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idea who Alex Jones was. I
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stuff out and all the information that
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and looking for myself. So but
one of one of the things I did

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find, he's like, do you
know he's typing Melinda Gates Foundation and then

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you know anything going against them and
FactCheck dot org that's for any hop up.

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Org. I looked at the bottom
of this of the page it said University

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of Pennsylvania. So I clipped on
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bill and Milinda Gates Foundation put it
in the search and then up up up

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pops up. A grant that was
given to the University of Pennsylvania from the

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Built and Milinda Gates Foundation in September
twenty nineteen. I think it was for

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social studies of you know, medical
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created from the University of Pennsylvania to
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you know that that's probably not one
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because it's been a long time since
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you go on if you go on
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right, okay, so this is
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on on Facebook, there was an
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was being shared on this on this
on this page, all the COVID stuff

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everything, you know, just a
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taken down soon after, but but
it did have like one point two million

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one point or millions something followers on
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on that on that page, all
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my awakening journey, my my story
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that page, someone this was on
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It was a Sunday, the fifteenth
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shared a link to a website called
King of dot UK. King of dot

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UK, So I click on this
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these all this like historical information about
the royal family and everything, and this

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guy called Joseph Gregory had it who's
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So you know, I'm reading all
this information. I'm going on.

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I go into Facebook, try and
type in to see if there's anything there,

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and there isn't. So, you
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on the website, and then I
decide to create a Facebook page for this

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guy. I don't know, I've
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but I create a Facebook page because
it's not there anyway. So this

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was so bit of like the fifteenth
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May and I think about the nineteenth
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I did have a point, a

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point where like you know, it
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it was very it was very intense, and I fell out with a lot

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of friends, you know, a
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years. Just wow, me deleted
me all my club, a lot of

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my club and friends, a lot
of friends that I've lived with in Australia,

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in ib for gone think that because
of that he was on COVID,

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Pews and COVID and then finding out
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a blaber mouth. I get excited, right, So I get excited.

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So you know, as my story
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and outcome later. But at the
time, you know, because you know

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the social guide that I am,
I was telling everyone. I was like,

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look this whole thing that scam like
to tell you the truth. And

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I don't know if you know Mark
Devlin, but you know he had a

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so yeah, I was. I
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and you know, thinking that they
were my friends, I thought they

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would listen to me. And I've
got at the time, I had so

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called best friends, like a lot
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different different different points because I've had
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take a break. I've got a
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know, this whole thing with you
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a lot. I was getting a
lot of backlash from all sides of

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my friends and family because, you
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but obviously some guy who's trying to
take over the monarchy. That's that's

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quite a big thing when you think
about it. So so anyway, so

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I go to my dad's house for
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of days is not good. You
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but then after that we didn't.
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video which I uploaded to YouTube and
accord it to transitioned to greatness because I

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was also, oh yeah, I
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so as well, the King stuff
and the anti COVID stuff Q as well.

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and there was one particular video which

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was done by a brit called is
a three hour videos like her? Like

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her one hundred proofs of Q or
three hundred proofs of Q, you know,

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like he was going through it is
that a three hour video? So

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I was on the Trump train at
the time. I was, uh,

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you know, anti COVID doing all
of this. So so I made this

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video called Transition to Greatness, uploaded
it so YouTube and I was kind of

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like on the on the Q train
as to believe in that, you know

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that JFK Jr. Could be there
right and all of this, and I

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was just like, you know,
it wasn't just me talking about it.

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There was a lot of Facebook all
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miles down the rabbit hole, I
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I'd changed my world view in what
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in a week. How to get
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yeah, So I made this video
and in the in the meantime whilst I'm

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down there, I end up having
contact with with Greg Altt, the you

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know, the guy who wants to
be king, and I you know,

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I said, I said, look, I can. I can do social

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media. I've done social media for
the jobs I've had and helped with the

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Facebook page. And he was saying
that, yeah, I've got a film

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crew that I come in. They
want to you know, do a documentary

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about my story. And because I've
got a drone and now to do owning,

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I said, I'm happy to do
the drone for you and being the

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drove pilot for it. So this
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and then we had some dates set
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some European countries and Italy, but
you know, people did take it seriously.

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So I ended up going to Norfolk
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I left my dad's, we came
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Norfolk in early June, and we
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call it mansion. It's a big
house anyway, and we did some film

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in there, uh for for this
documentary which is called The Hidden King,

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and imates some of some of the
you know that the people, the guy

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that interviewed it, the guy that
knew, the guy who was able to

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he was able to film at this
this location, and yeah, it was

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just a really interesting time. So
it was only I was only supposed to

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get there for two days, but
we ended up staying there for seven days.

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So checked it out for a random
story. We're filming there at this

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at this property, and one of
one of the guys who's organized the location

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there gets in touch with another mate
and says, you know, we're in

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Norfolk, you know, we're doing
this documentary. And the guy says,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, come
around. You know, we'll organize a

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dinner and so anyway, yeah,
he says, oh, whereabouts are you?

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property next door. But these are

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big properties, so it was like
a field a field across, so I

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mean, what are the chances we're
in this location? And the guy,

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the guy's mates of both of these
two people that didn't know were neighbors.

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We ended up walking across the field
and going to this other property and we

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had this dinner and we ended up
staying there for five days. Wow,

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just having you know, filled me
and having a good time. You know,

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the whole country's in fear at this
point. You know, we weren't.

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We were just living, living,
living our lives. You know,

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we're just I met so many people
in the I don't know if you've ever

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seen Tom Numbers. He's active across
YouTube. Sure, yeah, but I'm

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sure some of the listeners might have
might have seen him, but he was

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there and yeah, just just met
some really cool people and had a great

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time. So anyway, so we
left there. That documentary went out in

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sort of July twenty twenty. And
when it started going out, so there

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was three parts. There was the
Hidden King, then there was Coffee with

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the King Part one, and Coffee
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sort of second one that was released, the sort of hype about it,

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because there was a lot of hype
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America as well. You know,
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Really, it was starting to die
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of twenty twenty, and I had
a conversation with Greg and the he said

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basically wants to do the Facebook page
himself, you know, and I was

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like, okay, yeah, no
problem. So his guy, he's got

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a friend. I forgot what it's
called when it did it, So I

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had no further contact with that,
and I changed my mind about it as

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well at that point. By by
August of twenty twenty, and obviously I

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could have really talked to many people
about it, friends or family, about

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that particular story, I just changed
my mind in my own my own head,

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and just carried on with where I'm
about to go. So so yeah,

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so the film crew and Greg as
well, that they kind of fell

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out a bit, and yeah,
that's it. That for me, that

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was the end of that story.
I was just the drone pilot. But

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that particular two months affected relationship with
my dad, with my brother and these

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so called best mates that I had
quite a few of them. Don't know

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how many, bit at least eight
to ten, I don't know, I

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don't know. There's a lot.
There's a lot of Facebook friends are no,

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they weren't. Just Facebook friends are
just gone. But that was one

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of the intentions of COVID was divide
and conquer, and it certainly worked,

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Oh for sure. Absolutely. You
know it's even even to this day it's

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very touchy subject, you know,
you know, it's it's yeah. So

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so I moved on from that and
I found a girl who was helping a

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movement called Freedom for the Children.
So there was Freedom for the Children going

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on in the US. I don't
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And her name's Laura. She she
she was like, I'm going to do

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this in the UK. So I
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And uh, and the girl called
Lucy Davis was helping Laura Award out and

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they organized Freedom for the Children.
So I went there and I was at

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the Freedom for the Children in London
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So all the Q staff about child
trafficking and everything, and that that's

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you know, part of that emotional
period of time in May. You know

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that that when I was going down
the rabbit, a lot of that stuff

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of the you know, the awaitning
and you know that was knowing about the

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darkness of all the satanic rich absolutely
you know that that. I mean that

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that's a lot to take in,
so you know, and trying to explain

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that to people, you know,
and like, you know, it's something

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no, but it's going on right, And I think that's something that we

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should great from going from just a
regular person to go onto the clubs to

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listen to the music and then a
few months later you're you're seeing the evil

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of this world for what it really
is. Uh. That that can affect

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you mentally like big time, having
on a level of depression that's really hard

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to deal with. Yeah, I
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It was more like just like it
was more like you know that I

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guess the armor of God was coming
on, you know, like there you

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go like I'm I'm ready, I'm
ready to go here. You know this

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is this is like something that's needs
to be fought against. Yeah, it's

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just not good. So so yeah, that's why I was willing to go

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to London and and not not just
take part in, you know, in

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the march, but actually help the
organizers, you know, as ready to

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help them. And one thing I
ever mentioned, yeah, is that during

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the filming have you have you ever
heard of Charlie Ward? Oh? Yes,

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of course, yeah, yeah,
so I have. I helped get

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a lot of people on Charlie Ward's
channel at the start of his sort of

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channel. So I would the people
that I met, you know, Tom

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Tom Numbers and that that that that
there filming, and just through my networking

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that was doing that that point,
I was getting a lot of people on

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to go in Charlie Ward and also
Nicholas Benjamin have you heard of him?

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00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:45.559
Not familiar with that one? He
went on Charlie Ward's show and he then

411
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.280
ended up doing it himself. And
he's interviewed quite a lot of big of

412
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.159
the quite a lot of big players
in the truth movement in the political side

413
00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:02.920
of things. Trump Trump, uh. And so I got Laura and Lucy

414
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.800
Davis in touch with Charlie ward So
they ended up going on there, and

415
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.039
you know, they they were you
know, I've been on YouTube channels with

416
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.840
them, and you know, We've
had a few discussions about freedom for the

417
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:21.000
children in March to promote it,
and yeah, that's what that's what I

418
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.760
got in touch with. Laura says, look, I can help get some

419
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.400
awareness to this, get there on
Charlie ward show. So I used to

420
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:31.679
I used to send the information to
Charlie Ward's guy called Lee and he would

421
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.880
then contact Charlie Warden and put it
on there. So at this point I

422
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:43.039
didn't have hardly any contact with Charlie. So so, yeah, so we

423
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:49.880
went to this march and we actually
had the police that were escorting us and

424
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.880
they were, you know, shutting
the roads down so that we could do

425
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.760
it. And there was about two
thousand of us. Wow. Yeah,

426
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:05.280
and considering you know, up to
that point, you know, the countries

427
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.559
in lockdowns, I hadn't really met
other people that had done the same kind

428
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:14.760
of research I had. But all
of a sudden, we're we're outside Parliament,

429
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:22.239
went outside Buckingham Palace, just amazing
people all you know, no knowing

430
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.719
about the you know, the the
childs are African, that's that's going on.

431
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:34.360
And yeah, so that so went
to that. The following week was

432
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:42.119
the twenty ninth of August, and
that was when David Ike was speaking at

433
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:47.199
Trafalgar Square, so the anti lockdown
that. Yeah, so I went to

434
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:53.880
that. That's where I met Tiana, who I'll speak about in a bit.

435
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.840
So I met Tiana there. She
ended up helped her, you know,

436
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.960
an interview with Charlie Ward and she
moved on excuse me, and she

437
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.480
ended up interviewing David Ike you know, later down the line and all this,

438
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:12.760
and yeah, it just when I
was when I was there, it

439
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:17.519
was just amazing to see people that
were looking into the same kind of things.

440
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:24.000
People from all over the UK were
there, and I was like,

441
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:28.320
right, you know, this is
things are changing, like you know,

442
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:36.960
this is this is something going on. So so then I went every week.

443
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.599
So I went. I went on
the twenty ninth of August. The

444
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.719
next one in early September, I
think it was the fifth. Then on

445
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:49.599
the tenth of September in Oxford,
I went to the one there and Mark

446
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:53.599
Devlin was speaking there and Mark Devlin
did his speech and then there was a

447
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:58.480
gap, so I ended up getting
on the mic and chatting in front of

448
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:04.199
the right. That's farther listic about
such a random, random time in the

449
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:08.000
last few years, but yeah,
I ended up chating. It's about you

450
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.679
know, twenty people got a lot
of abuses. Well, you know this

451
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.800
is Oxford, that's that, that's
the breeding ground of the New World Order,

452
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:20.679
absolutely, and yeah, you know
at least six people were proper shouting

453
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.679
us that, you know, get
out of here, you know, what

454
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:28.719
are you talking about? And yeah, so so I spoke them and then

455
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.480
I kept going to the protests in
London and then it was I think it

456
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:38.960
was I remember the date exactly,
but mid September that's when I started seeing

457
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:47.920
the protests not being friendly anymore,
and the police were cramp clamping down on

458
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.880
it. They were I've seen I've
seen them, you know, hit people,

459
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:57.760
push people to the ground, arrest
them for no reason. There I

460
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:04.320
saw you know, dr was his
name, doctor Haiku. His name anyway,

461
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.960
I saw him get arrested because he
spoke there was he was banned from

462
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:14.920
YouTube and everything, and so it
was it was now like, okay,

463
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:21.679
yeah, this is becoming very real
now, Like I think at that point

464
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.719
found telegram and I was seeing all
the stuff that was going on in Holland

465
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.119
as well, and you know,
it's like the stuff that we've run in

466
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.360
Holland. For example, I saw
a man just get you know, smacked,

467
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.920
smacked to the ground, a dog
set upon him and everything, and

468
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.519
you know, I was like,
wow, this is this is really becoming

469
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:45.800
something more serious. And yeah,
that carried on until about December twenty twenty

470
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:52.119
and it got to the point where
the last lockdown March, I was like,

471
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.360
right, look, you know,
no one went because they didn't start

472
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.079
till March twenty twenty one again.
But by December, a lot of you

473
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:06.599
know a lot of people are just
getting arrested and beating up for no for

474
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:15.360
no reason really. So yeah,
in the UK, they announced the Tiard

475
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:22.280
lockdown on the thirty first of October
and they put it into place on the

476
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.360
fifth of November, which fifth of
November is big deal, thoughts, No,

477
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.079
yeah, yeah, so you know, Mark Devlin chats a lot about

478
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.840
about this with dates and you know
the or the significance of dates and how

479
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.199
they use it. I mentioned Mark
Devlin a lot because I've actually got to

480
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:46.159
the room and you meet them at
the the Freedom rallies and and everything.

481
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:53.679
But yeah, so there was a
bit of a break and it comes to

482
00:41:54.880 --> 00:42:02.360
March twenty twenty one and lockdown March
is start happening again because they went from

483
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:06.760
the tiered lockdown here in the UK
to a full lockdown, and you know,

484
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:15.800
it was it was intense, but
peak. Look having this awakening and

485
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.000
even falling out with all the friends
that I did, we were living our

486
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.960
best lives in the situation. So
we enjoyed ourselves with my family. You

487
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:30.559
know, we're a young daughter.
We we Christmas Christmas Day, we went

488
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.159
down to Devon and we had Christmas
in Devor and the fire went to the

489
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.559
beach. We had a great time. But you know, the old country

490
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.800
is living in fear. We was
like, no, we're not, We're

491
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.840
not playing this game. And we
were able to go anyway because at the

492
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:49.800
time it was tiered lockdowns, so
we were able to book a property in

493
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:54.360
another county. Crazy. It was
when we were driving down there as well.

494
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.519
We had like the road signs saying
that you are entering a tiered too.

495
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.360
Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah
it was. It's just it's obviously

496
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.760
bonkers to think about it. But
yeah. So anyway, it comes to

497
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:13.800
March twenty twenty one and you know, the rally start again in the UK

498
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:19.519
and it was it was. It
was big the march on but then the

499
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:27.400
ones that May and June ant lockdown
marches in the UK there was at least

500
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:34.199
one to one point five million people
and the marches and the BBC and you

501
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.960
know, they reported it as you
know, initially at first they were reporting

502
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:42.440
hundreds, you know, the previous
months, but for these ones they actually

503
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.480
said thousands because it was quite obvious
that there were a lot of people that

504
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:51.719
but that yeah, there was.
It was one of the best things I've

505
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:58.199
ever seen, was was marching through
London in the sunshine. Just the sea

506
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:02.599
of people that we're all awake and
aware of everything that was going on,

507
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.880
and it was. Yeah, it
was amazing and I honestly think being part

508
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:16.480
of that and the people that did
that helped the UK get out of lockdowns.

509
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:22.400
Just like the pushback and if if
that that wave I think might have

510
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:28.480
assisted other countries as well, because
it was obvious what I was going on

511
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:34.960
in the UK and over time.
You know the lockdowns he's later on,

512
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:45.360
but went to the one in July. I've only even talked about we've got

513
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.000
we've got plenty of time. Yeah, yeah, we start forty five minutes.

514
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.760
But I just wanted to say,
uh, you know, you're really

515
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:54.199
impressive, because you know it's one
thing to see say see something and say

516
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.719
something, but you actually, uh, you know, you don't just talk

517
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.119
the talkie, walk the walk.
It's our responsibility. If we know something

518
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:07.199
is wrong, it's our responsibility to
get out there and do what we can.

519
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.079
Like civil disobedience is what you guys
did and what we should all do

520
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.599
to say no, this is wrong. You don't have the right to tell

521
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:20.199
us that we're not essential or shut
us down. And it does make you

522
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.719
feel like you have accomplished something that
you stood up to the face of tyranny

523
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.840
and said no. Thank you,
and you guys and all the other people

524
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.920
who went out against the orders of
lockdown and everything else, you guys are

525
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:39.159
You're truly heroes. Like I said, when I appreciate those comments. But

526
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.239
like I said, I felt like
the armor of God. Like you know,

527
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.079
I've not mentioned it, but I
was kind of borderline atheist before May

528
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:53.679
twenty twenty, and I'd stopped being
atheist in May twenty twenty when I realized

529
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.280
that there was this satanic agenda going. I don't know, is that well,

530
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.199
if they believe this stuff, then
there must be a creative and that's

531
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:06.599
even before I get to flat Earth. So but like, yeah, you

532
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.639
know, I megaphone, I was
a very loud that was very put it

533
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:14.880
that way. I've got I've got
a megaphone right there, and yeah,

534
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:21.440
I certainly made made made a noise, and but yeah, I like this.

535
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.880
This is June twenty twenty one.
At the same time going to that,

536
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:27.639
I was also moving house, so
I was moving out of Upsid and

537
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:35.000
moving to where I live now more
in the countryside, and I've kind of

538
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.800
been I'd got over the you know, the COVID stuff, had enough of

539
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:43.719
it, so I was like,
you know what, I'm going to look

540
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.679
into flat Earth, right, so
I'll spend the next forty five minutes now

541
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:54.719
talking about the flatir bars right as
well. And yeah, so the people

542
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.480
that I've been following and listening to
they were kind of mentioning that, and

543
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.679
Charlie would actually interviewed David Weiss and
that was that. He interviewed him in

544
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:08.199
sort of March twenty twenty one sort
of time. So when I watched that

545
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:14.519
and had no idea who David Wece
was, and because I've been helping Charlie

546
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:15.760
Wood get some of the contacts,
I was like, oh, you know,

547
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:20.440
that was that was a good one. And I watched it and it

548
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.039
made sense to me, But that
was it. It just made sense to

549
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:27.920
me. Carried on. It was
all about the lockdown still and all that

550
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.159
kind of thing. But I'd hear
other commentators like Jason Q. I don't

551
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.159
know if you've ever seen him in
the Q movement. He had a big

552
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:40.440
following. He'd say, yeah,
flat Charlie Free as well, another guy

553
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:46.119
is that yeah, okay, yes, But hearing that didn't make me think,

554
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:52.159
Wow, that sounds ridiculous after what
I'd seen for the last year or

555
00:47:52.159 --> 00:48:00.079
so. I'm over to anything really
really really doesn't it, So you know,

556
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:15.320
an open mind to discover we're into
into flat air? I was,

557
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.159
I was, I was, I
was like, yeah, it's one hundred

558
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.960
percent flat in that time. I
was the way I did it was bind

559
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:30.840
David Weiss's interviews, see who's interviewing, and then I'd find the people that

560
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:36.039
was interviewing and find the flat Earth
is through there, Because you couldn't all

561
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.679
the stuff I was watching, none
of none of the stuff I was coming

562
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.400
to me. I had to do
it that way to see the content.

563
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:46.599
And through that I found out about
O D D t V, Dave Murphy

564
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:52.559
and Legend D Dave and I was
like, the another world. It is

565
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:58.519
literally another world. It's it's relationary, topographical, level playing world. I

566
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:04.320
was like, Wow, this is
the real world. And you know,

567
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.400
listening to these guys, these guys
made way more sense than some of the

568
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:14.079
other other sort of political people I
was listening to. And I was like,

569
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.280
so I switched all of that off, really all the political stuff,

570
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:22.119
and just concentrated on on on these
guys and you know, Sean Hire,

571
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:27.239
Blur and all of them, and
yeah, I was just like Yeah.

572
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:32.639
By June, in my moving date
in June twenty twenty one, one flat

573
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:39.519
mentioned this to my missus and she
was like, let's still not again,

574
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.559
right. It was the King last
year. Now, now you're on the

575
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:49.960
right. But yeah, after a
couple of weeks, you know, I

576
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.159
kept saying, but look, you
know, check this little clip out,

577
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.480
look at this little thing. And
because she she was already awaken away for

578
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.199
for a long time, you know, you know, even way before the

579
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:07.559
COVID stuff, she never never trusted
that she saw it. And she's on

580
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:15.199
board after after a few weeks.
So so yeah, so during that time

581
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.719
I started doing a bit more sort
of local activism. And when I was,

582
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:25.480
you know, doing the local activism, i'd speak to uh, you

583
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:30.079
know, there was a thing here
called rebels and roundabouts, so we'd stand

584
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:35.039
on the roundabouts with yellow boards because
here, you know, for vaccine injuries,

585
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:40.719
it's the yellow card scheme. H
r A. We're sending roundabouts around

586
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:46.480
Oxfordshire and the Cotswolds. And at
this point, because I was into flat

587
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.079
Earth, I was just like,
right, my, my, my,

588
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.480
my role now is I'm going to
wait truth seeking people to flat Earth rather

589
00:50:54.519 --> 00:51:02.400
than hosting this stuff on my Facebook
because it didn't work. My goal was

590
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.920
now waking people up to flat earth
in the truth. Yeah, I can

591
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.599
put it on Facebook. I can
put a video of a chicken walking in

592
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.519
circles and I'll get twenty likes,
but I've got something serious of that flatter

593
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.440
not even nothing, not at all. So yeah, I learned the same

594
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.639
thing like you did. Yeah,
yeah, I know, I kind of.

595
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:30.000
I I learned that through the stuff
that I was posting in the previous

596
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.639
year. That that's you know,
I'm I'm not even going to bother the

597
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:39.920
truck doing this with flat earth.
But because of the amount of people that

598
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:45.760
I met through through you know,
the activism and on the marches and networking

599
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.719
that I've done, I was like, you know, I camecome wake a

600
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.840
lot of people up here that are
truth seeking people like you know, and

601
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:58.199
yeah, so that that was kind
of the thing that we're doing, you

602
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.880
know, just doing these rebels aroundabout
standing in the park. Did a couple

603
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:09.440
of social events as well, DJ
at these social events, and then it

604
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:15.519
kind of got on to well,
so I ended up in hospital in January

605
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:23.280
sixth, twenty twenty two. Right, So that's kind of where my journey

606
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:29.119
was going. I was doing all
this you know, this local ACTIVISMB and

607
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.000
you know, still at work and
doing all this kind of thing. But

608
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:37.920
anyway, I twenty eight for December
twenty twenty one. I think it was

609
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:44.360
I fell ill. I was in
bed until January sixth, twenty twenty two,

610
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:52.920
and he got to the point on
that day that I had to ring

611
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.880
nine nine nine here, which nine
nine nine down at six sixty six,

612
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:05.599
and they put it in your face
here, and then nine one one in

613
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:09.719
the US as well, nine eleven. It's all these numbers. It's unbelievable.

614
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:15.920
Just a coincidence, right, yeah, just a coincidence. So so

615
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:21.880
I ended up in hospital in January
sixth, and they took me in within

616
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:27.960
an hour. Now you go understand
that we're still we're still in the COVID

617
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:36.000
lunacy here, and I'm unjabbed sporty
at the time, and you know,

618
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:37.679
I was, I was. I
was a stat. I was. I

619
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:45.480
was a good stat for them.
So I get in there and basically I

620
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:52.039
was in the waiting room and you
know, I've been in bed horizontal on

621
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:59.039
the level, on the level bank, and I go go into this weighting

622
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.360
room where they put me this like
hard chair. Our window was open,

623
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:07.199
it was January, it was freezing, and I was weak. I was

624
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.280
so weak at this point, I
was I was very weak and eating properly

625
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:14.360
and everything. My missus was getting
ill. That's why I ended up calling

626
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:16.920
the hospitals. I was like,
you not able to look asto me,

627
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:22.039
You'll get right. So so I
was coughing up blood and and that's why

628
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:27.079
I went in there. Yeah,
yeah, it's pretty bad and my left

629
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:34.119
flung. So I ended up going
into hospital and in the first few hours,

630
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:39.039
you know, they put a pc
PCR test up my nose, which

631
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:44.679
I didn't want, but they did
it. So unfortunately I've had two PCR

632
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:49.280
tests go up my nose, one
one in the ambulance and once in the

633
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:54.280
waiting room, and very annoyed by
that because I managed to get that farther

634
00:54:54.480 --> 00:55:00.360
we were ever doing it. And
then yeah, yeah, they're basically or

635
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.400
one of one of the female doctor
came in and she says, look,

636
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:10.920
we're gonna we're gonna give youvere and
and to some to Sylle misab you'll never

637
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.079
say and you know, calmly,
calmly said that to me, and she

638
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:22.519
got up and left the room,
and I'm like, that's I've heard that

639
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:28.760
before. So I went on bit
shoot. Luckily I had a charge up

640
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.239
phone and this is like literally when
you're in the waiting room about to get

641
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:38.199
this done to you. Yes,
so they put me in a waiting room

642
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.679
to get a bed. So this
is in the waiting room. So it's

643
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:46.480
not even a proper hospital room.
It's it's it was very uncomfortable, very

644
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:52.159
basic, and the window was open. You know, I was cold.

645
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:59.320
I hadn't eaten drunk anything. Was
then another thing as well, this is

646
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:05.639
put a box of frozen cherries for
me to have and that's spilt all in

647
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:10.039
my bags, the cherries all over
the stuff that I had. So I

648
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:14.000
was that to deal with his eyes
like you know, it was it was

649
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:15.719
a bad situation, but you had
the way up withal. They gold a

650
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:21.599
bit shoot and put rem deservir into
the search engine and something came up that

651
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.000
opened your eyes. Yes, so
there was a there was a video.

652
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.079
There was only like ten videos that
came up in the search, but one

653
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:34.559
of them was that Dr Brian Ardish
doing a presentation about remdesevir and basically one

654
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:38.239
of the key things I remember from
that was he said that in twenty eighteen,

655
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:44.400
by the patients who were given remdesivie
and fifty four percent of the patients

656
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:50.599
died and what remdesevir does is that
it shuts down your kidney and liver functions

657
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:55.480
and then your body car release the
fluids so they build up into your lungs

658
00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:02.000
and then you drown from pulmonary edema. That's how that's that's the side effects

659
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:09.960
of ramdese if it goes to that
point. So I knew that if I

660
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:15.199
was to take redes, I'd be
dead. I'd be I was so weak

661
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:17.920
at that point. I was like, there's no way I'm taking that because

662
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:24.159
I couldn't go to the toilet properly
and taking something that might affect my kidneys

663
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:28.239
in my liver, you know,
And I knew. I knew that it

664
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:34.960
would kill me, basically. So
the nurse then came in about an hour

665
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:40.039
later with the ramdever to fort of
it. You know that they already put

666
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:43.880
the thing to put in it,
you know, the drip, right,

667
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:49.440
And I said, I'm not having
it, and they it's a bit it's

668
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:51.519
a bit shocked. He's like why, And I was like, so if

669
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:53.360
I'm not having it, I was
just I don't want it. So anyway,

670
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:57.960
so I didn't have the He left
left the room, left the room

671
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:02.840
in there, and they had a
doctor come in, so why don't you

672
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:07.320
want it? Then another and it
kind of left me. And this was

673
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:12.639
about nine o'clock at night, so
I got in there eleven o'clock in the

674
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.199
morning. So at nine o'clock at
night, they then moved me into a

675
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:19.440
room. So in this room,
though, I had to share with two

676
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:24.639
other guys, one of them was
in his sixties seventies and talking very strangely,

677
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:29.960
calling for his mum. It was
very weird. But they wheeled me

678
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:34.719
into the COVID nineteen red zone.
So I'd like, can you imagine like

679
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:38.480
I'd been for the last two years
and then all of a sudden, I'm

680
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:43.679
getting wheeled into this COVID nineteen red
zone. I'm like, what is what

681
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:47.360
is going on there? So,
yeah, they they put me in this

682
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:52.079
room. I obviously didn't have a
great night sleep because of this guy talking

683
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.880
and you know, they just feeling
a crap basically excuse my language. And

684
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:04.920
yes, like about six seven o'clock
in the morning, guy comes in takes

685
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.239
my blood and it's really he hurts
me, like when he takes my blood.

686
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:13.960
It was quite painful. Then another
guy come in and going through the

687
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.119
CT scan that I went through and
just saying, look, you know,

688
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.480
if you don't take these drugs,
you could be in here for the next

689
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:23.239
two months, you could end up
on the ice, you and all the

690
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:29.440
fear born. Basically there's that's just
awful. Yeah, And I was like,

691
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:30.880
no, no, no, I'm
not I'm not I'm not having it.

692
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:35.480
I'm not taking it. What are
the alternatives? And you know,

693
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:40.559
they said I could take these steroids, so I said, okay, I'll

694
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:45.239
take the steroids. I later found
out when I rewatched the Dr Brown artist

695
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.519
video actually mentioned one of the steroids
and there was a four percent chance of

696
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:53.679
that shatting down your kidney functions as
well. So there's only till after I

697
00:59:53.760 --> 01:00:00.199
took it I've found it out.
But anyway, so they kind of said,

698
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.039
right, we've got your room,
so they took me into a room

699
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:13.199
and yeah, I'm in my own
room in the OSLA Respiratory Unit, which

700
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.960
is the one below of the ICU. And then I still had like one

701
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:21.079
or two doctors came in giving me
this spill. So these forty eight hours

702
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.800
was literally about I think about seven
to ten doctors. I can't remember the

703
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:30.800
exact numbers, but I saw many
doctors the doctors. All they were doing

704
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:35.320
was trying to get me to take
these drugs. In the end, they

705
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:38.159
gave up and left me alone.
So I've got no bad words to say

706
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:42.280
about the nurses. They actually looked
after me and they were really helpful.

707
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:47.000
But the doctors, apart from the
last one, they all just sales pitch

708
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:55.079
to get sales pitch with Fearborne And
anyway, cut a long story short,

709
01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:00.559
I ended up getting out there in
six days. But I might mention listeners

710
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:06.239
might want to try this. I
drank this onion drink, red onion drink,

711
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:12.800
bought it for fifteen minutes with lemon
juice, and that that really sort

712
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:17.480
of that there's a chemical reaction between
lemon and the onions that that sue sues

713
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:21.159
the inside of your lungs or or
whatever. I mean. It worked.

714
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:24.519
Anyway, so I was having an
air and I recovered. I was out

715
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:30.320
there in six days, and yeah, so I got out of there,

716
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:37.480
and then I told my story at
the Oxford Freedom Rally. So I don't

717
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:42.000
know if you've ever had a I
mentioned Lucy Davis before. She was quite

718
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:46.239
spoken on YouTube, but she spoke
and she introduced me. So to her

719
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:50.360
twenty minute slot. She gave me
ten minutes of her twenty minute slot.

720
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.760
So I went on told my story
in front of about four or five hundred

721
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:57.760
people in Oxford. This time there
was a lot more people, you know,

722
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:02.880
there was a more advertisement for it
and bigger, bigger. By this

723
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:07.000
point a lot of people had seen
it. Uh and yeah, and then

724
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:12.800
Mark Devlin went on after me after
telling them my story of what just happened

725
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:17.880
in hospital. So so basically,
you know, i'd kind of at this

726
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.079
first hand experience now of being in
the hospital, seeing seeing what's going on,

727
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:30.519
and I was quite humbled by everything, and because of because of the

728
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:34.079
way, you know, as I
used to last my Facebook with content,

729
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:38.440
it's just just you know, sure
los Bard, I didn't care. I

730
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:42.199
did care, but you know,
it's just want of the truth out there.

731
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:47.679
But I took a step back and
I said, you know what if

732
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:54.760
people can't see this at this point, you know, it's everyone's on their

733
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.880
own journey kind of thing. And
what just happened to me, I was

734
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:05.679
humble by the situation I had.
You know, I can see the chapter.

735
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.599
A couple of the nurses there and
told them why I didn't take the

736
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:14.119
job. Oh, yeah, everyone
everyone asking me have you been vaccinated?

737
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:22.320
No, whoever came in asking me
these questions, doctors, nurses and as

738
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.760
to why I didn't, And yeah, I just I just thought, you

739
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:30.079
know what, look put people on
their own journeys. So I'm going to

740
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.960
take a step back from this.
In that time as well, I was,

741
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:38.440
I was changing jobs. I was, I started an interview process before

742
01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:46.239
went into hospital and the company actually
you know, realized the situation. They

743
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:50.599
said, oh, you know,
we'll come back to and then they didn't

744
01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:52.840
offer me the job. And then
three weeks later, at the end of

745
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:54.880
February, they actually offered me the
job. So I ended up moving this

746
01:03:55.039 --> 01:04:00.119
job. Well, and because of
the company I was going through, a

747
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:08.760
SaaS company. I won't mention them, but I am. I deleted all

748
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.519
the stuff that I had on Facebook. I didn't delete, I hit it.

749
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:17.320
I just made it for myself.
Because new job, the people who

750
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:21.760
I used to work for I knew
what I was looking into. And you

751
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:26.239
know, like I said, I
was both open open mouthed about it.

752
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:31.280
Also they is anything but but I
didn't want that with a new job.

753
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:39.599
But yeah, they they made me
redundant in the July and you know,

754
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:45.039
just kind of you know, in
the last few years just and then on

755
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:46.360
in the last few in the last
well, yeah, in the last few

756
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:49.719
years were nearly twenty twenty four and
now so but yeah, like mid mid

757
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:58.119
July twenty twenty two to now,
I've I'm our private high driver, so

758
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:02.039
I drive across ox Ship and that's
what I do. I'm self employed and

759
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:09.760
and uh yeah, really really really
enjoying my time and and really being free

760
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.519
and and seeing the day change and
following the sun and you know, and

761
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:17.880
and paying attention to the moon and
everything. So yeah, it's it's it's

762
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:25.199
good times now. So yeah,
getting back onto two flat Earth really,

763
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:30.800
you know, like no knowing knowing
where we are, that we're that that

764
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:36.039
we are created, that we're in
a we're in an energy system that you

765
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:41.480
know, you know, there's a
number of theories as to what it is,

766
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:45.280
but you know, the thing for
me that makes the most sense is

767
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:51.079
that that there is something at the
North Pole that connects to the polaris and

768
01:05:51.840 --> 01:06:00.840
that that energy makes the Sun and
the moon go round, and you know,

769
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:06.840
is it is it the heavens above
that are giving light into the firmament

770
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.639
that creates all the stars and the
movement, you know, like I think

771
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:15.760
like when so when people say when
you know this guy on Facebook, there

772
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.119
was a back and forth he's saying, I know when he's saying like a

773
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:25.480
sort of the cosmology of the heliocentric
model, It's like, look, mate,

774
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:30.960
I don't believe in that cosmology.
So what I think is going on

775
01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:38.199
is not that. So your points
make no sense to me in what I

776
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:44.920
think is going on. So like
it's it's it's hard to describe, but

777
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:46.480
yeah, I just I just think
we are living in a you know,

778
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:53.960
like a and the energy system and
everything's got a role to play, and

779
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:58.920
and my idea of the creator is
you know, I've been listening to a

780
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.800
lot of the Biblical stuff and when
I go around when my job's now,

781
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.800
sometimes I'll pop into churches and check
the Bibles to see really if they've changed

782
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:10.320
the language. Yeah, yeah,
because I'm here, there and everywhere.

783
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:15.159
So you know, some of the
Bibles now say sky instead of firmament.

784
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:19.039
Yes, that was just mentioned on
my last interview, the I V version

785
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:25.239
they replaced. Actually, I can
tell you right here and literally it says

786
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:33.079
that here it is Psalms nineteen one. Yeah, and it replaced the word

787
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:40.719
firmament with sky this epistom. But
yeah, there's a church in a place

788
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:45.000
called golring S where George Michael used
to have Actually, yeah, there's a

789
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:49.280
Methodist church and they've got Psalms nineteen
one. I took a photo of it.

790
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:55.119
They've got Psalms nineteen one, but
it has sky on there and not

791
01:07:55.280 --> 01:08:02.760
the firmament yep. So on the
review on Google actual scream and theo and

792
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:12.079
the photo of Ernavon Brown's headstone stone. Yeah, yeah, guys proclaim the

793
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:16.319
work of his hants. That's that's
it. Yeah, they've they've changed it.

794
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:24.039
So so so my point is that
I now believe in creation and the

795
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:29.600
Creator. So but I am I
am not really following in any religion so

796
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:35.119
to speak. You know, personal
background is I was baptized Roman Catholic.

797
01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:42.800
Because of my it's had in to
me, but I never followed any of

798
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:47.000
that. And my dad is a
Jehovah's Witness that's been this fellowship, So

799
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:53.000
he was a Jehovah's Witness up until
he was eighteen. But you know,

800
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:58.600
my English family, I hardly know
them because of the Jeovah's witnesses. And

801
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:04.239
I've actually been on a flat Earth
show on YouTube with with Extra Hovah's witnesses

802
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:11.760
talking about flat Earth's interesting. Yeah
and that was that was about a young

803
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:15.760
and a half ago. But yeah, so I believe. I believe there's

804
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:20.720
a creator. I believe the creator
may be like an energy that we can't

805
01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:27.720
even have them like we would like
like something that lives through every living thing,

806
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:34.159
you know, like the creator knows
what idea is thinking that type of

807
01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:38.920
thing, or you know what plants
do it. That's why I think the

808
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:44.279
creator, if he's able you know, he or whatever whatever be able to

809
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:48.960
create, then you know each thing
has its purpose. You know. There

810
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:55.119
are some some things that just can't
be explained how you know, like the

811
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:00.800
monarch butterflies that I think they go
from Louisiana or or somewhere in the US

812
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.600
to Mexico. How did they do
that? How did they know to do?

813
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:11.720
You know that? That's things like
that. So I think, yeah,

814
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:18.920
this EURF is much more intelligently designer
or whatever you can even think.

815
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:24.800
Ready, Yeah, there's so much
amazing things like you talk about the locust,

816
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:30.159
what animals lose their shells, animals
that transform like butterflies and all about

817
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.920
the migrations. It really was really
uh smartly created. And again that's why,

818
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:40.760
yeah, going all the way back
to episode one, is why the

819
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:46.800
lie? And I think that's when
you try to explain flat Earth to someone

820
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:50.600
that that's eventually they're gonna that's when
they're back against the wall. That's what

821
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:54.359
they're going to come back with.
Well why would they lie? And that's

822
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:57.960
why it's important to know why they
lie is because they are hiding the creator.

823
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.039
And for you, I think your
journey was a lot like a lot

824
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:04.119
of other people, as you had
to go through a series of other rabbit

825
01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:10.239
holes to understand how evil the world
was, so you could actually kind of

826
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:15.399
put down your your shield and look
into flat Earth because and then you understand

827
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:21.439
how deceitful heliocentrism is in itself.
It is hiding the creator. Yeah.

828
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:26.800
That and and you know, on
a on a day to day level,

829
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.920
you know, hiding the potential of
free energy. So oh, you imagine

830
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:34.199
if free energy, none of us
would have to do it. Here's this

831
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:39.000
and we wore the slaves to society, right, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

832
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:44.399
And that's that's that's one of one
of one of the Yeah, the

833
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:48.279
big ones really is that they create
a hiding the creator, making you believe

834
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:55.920
that you are insignificant. Uh you
know bind free space. That that that

835
01:11:56.079 --> 01:12:00.720
to me is you know you talk
about the Silver Bullets and of another podcast.

836
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:05.319
That that, to me is was
one of the key things was understanding

837
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:11.720
the heliocentric model. Once I understood
what we're supposed to be doing, I

838
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:14.520
was like, that's not going on. I don't care what anyone says.

839
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:18.279
That is. That is not That
is not going on. So that that

840
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:25.039
to me is you you want to
really you want to really understand understand the

841
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:29.520
helio centric model. That's right.
Numbers, Yeah, somebody of us blindly

842
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.880
defended helio centrism, including me,
and I'm sure you and so many other

843
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:38.199
people. But then again then you
start to ask the questions, well,

844
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:40.239
how many miles is to side away? Well, I don't know, I

845
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:46.039
don't know. So it really goes
to show the amount of effort they put

846
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:53.239
into these psychological operations that people will
just blindly defend it without even looking into

847
01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:58.640
it. So again, like you
said, once you truly understand what heliocentrium

848
01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:03.199
is supposed to be about, right, how you know the Earth's gravitational pool

849
01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:08.840
is so great it can hold trillions
of tons of water, but a butterfly

850
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:13.159
in a balloon could just float right
up with the problem. It just doesn't

851
01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:15.359
make any sense at all. And
at some point you have to trust yourself.

852
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:18.760
And going back to COVID and the
guy in the white lab coat,

853
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:23.079
he's got a name, so you
got to listen to him because he went

854
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:26.600
to college, so you better get
that vaccine. No, these people are

855
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.279
salesmen, just like you said.
You had all the doctor and by the

856
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:32.399
way, I went to the VA
and the minute I turned down the vaccine,

857
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:36.399
they treated me like crap. I
remember you said on the previous Oh

858
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:41.399
yeah, and my wife too.
They made her wear two masks at work.

859
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:45.000
It was just they were literally wrestling
people to the mat to try to

860
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:51.520
get them to submit and bow at
the altar of a big pharmaceutical. Absolutely,

861
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.880
yeah, I mean yeah, I
go. I'll go kicked out of

862
01:13:57.319 --> 01:14:01.079
a pharmacy. Went up to pick
up some grain tablets for my missus and

863
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:05.960
I wasn't wearing a mask and they
kicked me out. Well, they kicked

864
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:10.199
me out because a lady kicked off
that I wasn't wearing a mask, and

865
01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:14.520
I said, I'm getting my I
actually managed to get the tablets, but

866
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:19.199
then they walked me out because that
was quite But I was like, you

867
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:24.239
mean you're talking to man. I
don't miss those days what I And you

868
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:29.720
mentioned Mother's Day. I specifically remember
going to my mom's house on Mother's Day

869
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:33.039
and she had it was me and
my sisters, so she had a lawn

870
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:36.640
chair. Here like six feet away
was another chair like she made this is

871
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:42.239
your circle for us all sit on, and it was just thinking back,

872
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:46.520
it is so cringe man. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, but

873
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:51.159
you know we've you know, you're
saying, like you know, some people

874
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:57.880
say it for me. For me, the flat Earth was was not that

875
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:03.119
hard really because space stuff never never
resonated with me. So I've never seen

876
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:09.039
Star Wars really and never seen it, and I don't I don't really like

877
01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:14.840
that sort of spacey stuff. I
think I've seen Star Trek in the film

878
01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:19.399
before at the Imax and a few
episodes are growing up, but Star Wars

879
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:25.199
never never appealed to me. And
I always used to have these like boughts

880
01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:28.800
in my head, like you know, these far away these stars, you

881
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:32.520
know, aliens traveling on space craft
and then landing Roswell in America. All

882
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:36.960
places, Yeah, well let's pick
America. All the places we can land

883
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.079
in the world, we'll go to
the one with the biggest entertainment industry,

884
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:46.960
right, you know. So I
had all these kind of questions and even

885
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:50.520
had a TV show here in the
UK called I've Never Seen Star Wars and

886
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:55.399
there was people going on there and
saying about stuff that they've have never done.

887
01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:59.760
Really yeah, so so yeah for
me, the you know, the

888
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:05.039
the space thing, I was like
nah and so so yeah, so what

889
01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:09.319
Once once I true, Like,
like I said, once I truly understood

890
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:13.920
the hediocentric model. Realized that especially
one of the one of the things that

891
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:19.479
they by says is is you know
how the closest star is, you know,

892
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:27.439
just twenty five miles away and it
takes fight one thousand years just to

893
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.199
get one twenty fifth of the way
that if you were going out a mile

894
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:35.600
per second, and you know that
that that's yeah, it's just it's crazy.

895
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:41.439
And then and then having a drone, and another one of at silver

896
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:45.600
Bullets is having a drone, I
was able to go to go back and

897
01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:51.039
look at my footage and there was. There's one particular example I've got is

898
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:57.319
a place called Paul on the south
coast here and I took the drone up

899
01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:00.760
at one hundred and twenty meters and
the sunris is coming on and at the

900
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:05.800
back the back of the you know
it in the vision you've got the sun

901
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:10.119
coming up and you can see the
Isle of Wight. So the Isle of

902
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:15.119
Wight is an island at the bottom
of the UK and at the back of

903
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:17.840
the Isle of White is a hill
which is about similar high one hundred and

904
01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:23.439
twenty meters. So on this picture
the back of the Isle of Wight is

905
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:27.039
on the horizon. It's you know, it's a hige level to the drone.

906
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:32.439
Now checked the distances to that and
it's about thirty five miles. So

907
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:39.800
then went on the curvature calculator and
checked, you know, how much curvature

908
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.800
they should have been at thirty five
miles and I can't remember the number,

909
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:47.000
but it's a lot like and it
was clearly not doing that. So,

910
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.880
you know, seeing seeing too far. You know, when I'm when I'm

911
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:57.880
driving around now, there's certain points
in Oxfordshire where there's a there's a power

912
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:03.800
station here and you can see that
power station for miles at certain points it's

913
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:08.439
like twenty miles away, and it's
it's at your eye level. It's at

914
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:15.880
the horizon at certain points where you're
driving around. And yeah, like just

915
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:21.920
just that really, just just just
paying attention to your surroundings and and everything.

916
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:27.039
It's just you know, the constellations
as well. You know. I

917
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.159
never used to pay attention to the
moon or the sun or anything really,

918
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:35.479
you know. And I'm like I
said, I regret this because I've lived

919
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:40.880
in some amazing places. I've lived
in Milford Sound in New Zealand, which

920
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:43.640
is I don't know if you've heard
of it, but it's one of the

921
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:46.600
top tourist destinations in New Zealand.
Is that where they did the Lord of

922
01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:50.079
the Rings? Yeah, yeah,
faint they were, they were they were

923
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:55.199
filming there. I've never seen allD
of the Rings either, but they were

924
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:58.920
filmed. They were filming. I've
never seen a report a Lord of the

925
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:04.239
Rings or stars. But I'm now
I'm now kind of attempted just to decode

926
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:08.920
it. Yeah, there's a lot
of movies worth watching just for the symbols

927
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:15.560
and numbers. Yeah, yeah,
And I would watch a decode of these

928
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:18.199
films, if it if there was
one out there, like just to see

929
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:21.119
what what what what's being talked about
in these films, which I'm sure that

930
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:26.640
there's got to be something in there. But yeah, so like you know,

931
01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:29.640
you know, living living in these
places, you know, you know,

932
01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:31.239
I used to be able to see
the stars, you know, it's

933
01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:35.520
like really bright, but never really
paid attention to the constellations. But but

934
01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:41.159
now I do. And you know, like the the plow and we're going

935
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.800
back to when I moved house that
the plower is directly over my garage and

936
01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:47.439
I checked it the next year and
it was directly over my garage and exactly

937
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:55.000
the same spot. And yeah,
it's just that's that's it really is,

938
01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:59.920
like, you know, just pay
attention and and feel like and feel like

939
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:02.560
peace for that ease, and trust
yourself, trust what you see and trust

940
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:05.920
what you feel. Don't let people
tell you what you should be seeing and

941
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:11.760
what you should be feeling. Now
that I look white. That that's down

942
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:15.119
by Portsmouth by the English channel,
right, that's right, and that's where

943
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:20.119
David ik is from lives. Oh
really okay, because I think as far

944
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:25.239
as conspiracies go, as well,
I think if you look at the research

945
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:30.760
there's supposedly a lot of dinosaur bones
there as well. The old Well,

946
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:34.800
yeah, there's the Jurassic Coast.
Yeah, in Dorset. So yeah,

947
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:40.920
it's one of my favorite spots in
England is Dorset, Dorset, Devon and

948
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:45.039
Cornwall Joel like in the south southwest. And yeah, there's a place called

949
01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:51.239
the Jurassic Coast. So obviously we've
got into the dinosaur he now because and

950
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:55.239
and yeah, this is one thing
I need to mention this, like like

951
01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:59.800
when you've got a young child,
right, and I learned about all this,

952
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:04.800
you know, the stuff with what's
going on with the darkness, and

953
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:11.159
then and then learning about you know, like so I was I was like

954
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:15.239
anti Disney, so I canceled Netflix
in twenty twenty. You know, I

955
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:19.560
canceled Netflix because they had that QTS. Oh yeah, that was abhorrent.

956
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:24.960
Good agreed. Yeah, the trailer
came up on well you know, it

957
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:26.920
was on Netflix. The trailer came
out, and watched it. I was

958
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:30.239
like, what the what is this? So yeah, I canceled that.

959
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.239
And then obviously finding out about Disney
and he's a fairy third degree Mason,

960
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:36.760
and I was like, you know, no, no, more Disney,

961
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:41.680
no more Netflix, no more Amazon, all canceled. That was all in

962
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:45.479
twenty twenty. And then you know, waking up to flat Earth and and

963
01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:54.479
what you what you notice is every
toy shop, every post office, everything

964
01:21:54.600 --> 01:22:00.520
that's got anything to do with children. It's dinosaurs, space unicorns. That's

965
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:05.399
right, unicorns. My daughter,
she loves it. I've kind of accepted

966
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:10.199
that, and I've not decided to
go down any rabbit holes regarding unicorns,

967
01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:13.039
whatever that may be. I think
it's out of the transgender agenda. But

968
01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:16.720
kind I've I've chose to ignore it. Otherwise I'm going to go crazy.

969
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:23.720
But you know, I've got nephews, and you know, space dinosaurs,

970
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:28.760
space dinosaurs. It's everywhere, everywhere. And I'm sure you've noticed this,

971
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:32.279
and she probably talked about it as
well, yep, but it's yeah,

972
01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:38.119
it's just everywhere. And uh and
like you know, watching the some of

973
01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:42.399
the some of the click some of
the cartoons like Bluey and all of this

974
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.960
kind of stuff. Every now and
then you'll get like a space episode and

975
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.600
or a dinosaur episode. And I'm
thinking of all, you know, of

976
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:54.199
all the things that are going on
in the world with living creatures, like

977
01:22:54.399 --> 01:23:00.479
elepherns that are amazing and that why
are we talking about dinosaurs? You know,

978
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:02.840
and you look at one of the
biggest movies of the nineties. It

979
01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:06.439
was Toy Story and that included everything
that you just mentioned. It had a

980
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:11.319
buzz light year right to infinity and
beyond, it had the dinosaur was one

981
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:15.319
of the primary characters. So yeah, it's a great observation. Yeah.

982
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.840
Yeah, and Jurassic Park as well, which is you know, I made

983
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:26.359
a comeback and he's making a fat
Jurassic Park. So yeah, it's it's

984
01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:30.359
it's crazy. And once once you
uh, you know, your eyes are

985
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:35.720
open and you just see you see
right for everything? See, yeah,

986
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:40.359
you do, you do. Uh. We got about ten minutes left.

987
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:43.520
I want to run through a few
quick questions and I'll I'll still give you

988
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:45.880
an opportunity that I've written down.
During the course of our conversation, you

989
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:49.159
had mentioned, uh, the seven
seven bombings. Have you ever gone down

990
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:54.520
that rabbit hole? I haven't,
to be honest, I haven't. I

991
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:57.359
feel I feel like I should now
because I was. I felt like I

992
01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:00.800
was kind of hardly involved in it, you know, the people that had

993
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:06.960
actually seeing what had happened, But
no, I'm sure it's manufactured. Yeah,

994
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:10.399
it's a pretty good and the data
alone the seven seven, which is

995
01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:15.359
you know anything that has eleven to
twenty two thirty three like JFK twenty two

996
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.359
thirty you know eleven twenty two.
I'll send you some links later on today

997
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:24.239
that you might find interesting. Yeah. Great, Yeah, So you had

998
01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:27.640
mentioned how fast you were going through
the rabbit hole one hundred miles an hour

999
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.800
and twenty Yeah, one hundred and
twenty miles an hour person sectally, But

1000
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:35.239
how did how did you discern what
info was? Because listen, in the

1001
01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:39.039
truth community, there's a lot of
great information out there, but there's also

1002
01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:43.239
a lot of stuff that you know, maybe the question how did you discern

1003
01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:46.000
as you were flying through the rabbit
hole? You know, what you felt

1004
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:53.039
was true and what wasn't. That's
a great question because initially, when I

1005
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:58.000
when I first started looking at everything, everything that was looking at was was

1006
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:02.279
making sense. And it was also
a point where there was not much censorship

1007
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:08.159
going on at that particular time,
so things were staying up. I remember

1008
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:14.039
that the doctors that got canceled on
in California, I can't remember. There's

1009
01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:16.159
two doctors that they were saying sort
of stuff, and I was like,

1010
01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:21.920
and that stayed up there there for
a while. So at that particular time,

1011
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:28.600
you know, May and June of
twenty twenty, the information when it

1012
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:33.359
was coming to COVID and everything,
you know, I was able to find

1013
01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:39.199
Facebook groups that were sharing the same
thing, and I was actually going to

1014
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:45.079
the source and finding the stuff myself. But then, you know, as

1015
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:50.199
time went on, and you know, like JFK Junior, these kind of

1016
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:55.680
stories Michael Jackson being alive and all
of this kind of stuff, as time

1017
01:25:55.720 --> 01:26:00.479
went on, I you know,
I don't know, I can't rule it

1018
01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:03.760
out, but it's unlikely for me
now. But there was a time where

1019
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:08.239
I thought, you know, this, this, this is this, this

1020
01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:13.840
could this whole drama that's going on
could be for you know, the Great

1021
01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:20.279
Awakening, which was the Q saying. And you know, one thing I

1022
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:24.960
could say is, however way you
look at it, you know, people

1023
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:30.199
might look at my story and think
you're an idiot, You've you believed all

1024
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.600
that stuff, you thought all of
this. I was like, yeah,

1025
01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:39.159
we all got played in some way, shape or form. I didn't take

1026
01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:42.520
three, four, five or six
jabs. I didn't wear masks, for

1027
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:47.680
two years. I didn't stop enjoying
my family or isolating in the same house

1028
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:50.920
for ten days. Yes, I
went down rabbit holes that might have been

1029
01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:57.680
untrue, but there's a lot of
truth in the stuff that I've seen,

1030
01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:03.079
and over time I've learned. Okay, you know, especially after going into

1031
01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:10.520
hospital, you know, I feel
the information well and learning that the Earth

1032
01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:16.720
is flat, stationary, topographical level, plane created system. All the political

1033
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:24.119
noise that's going on is at all
distractions. Yeah, you know, and

1034
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:28.159
you can choose to follow that to
say, you know, it's it's important

1035
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:30.239
to be aware of it, and
I am aware of it. I know

1036
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:35.800
that the CBDC is on the horizon. I know all of this stuff.

1037
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:40.520
I already know all of this stuff. I don't need to be consumed by

1038
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:45.399
it anymore. So Yeah, just
like yeah, discerning information, I'm just

1039
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:50.920
I like looking at positive things.
I'm aware that it could go a couple

1040
01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:55.840
of ways, two or three ways. You know, we could end up

1041
01:27:55.880 --> 01:28:00.680
living in the perfect world, or
it could get dark. But I believe

1042
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:10.760
humanity is very strong and there's a
lot of us. Now, let's see,

1043
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:15.199
for all of this, we are
creating a different idea about how we

1044
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:18.239
live and you know what's going on, and you do a lot of homesteading.

1045
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:24.159
Luckily, we've got a vegetable patch
in our garden and we've tried it.

1046
01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:29.560
We don't have the same weather though, and we have chemtrail controlled whether

1047
01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:33.560
here that you go. We get
spread almost every day here and it's pretty

1048
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:40.199
bad, so it's hard. It's
hard to grow food outside. But yeah,

1049
01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:45.880
it's just for me. For me, it's being aware of everything,

1050
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:49.960
knowing that we are living in the
create system, knowing that the creators got

1051
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:58.279
our back. And you know,
I've just even connecting with you. I

1052
01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:03.960
think I just went on the podcast
types in flat Earth and Funmamental podcast came

1053
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:12.279
up and mentioning your name, and
then I found your your podcast and I

1054
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:16.880
listened to every single whatever and then
yeah, all in order exactly. Because

1055
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:20.960
I'm a private high drive a taxi
driver, I've got lots of time on

1056
01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:26.279
my hands when I'm not with a
passenger, so I'm able to listen to

1057
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:32.880
the podcast. And yeah, you
know, by the fourteenth fifteen sixteenth episode,

1058
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:34.680
I was I need, I need, I need to get on there

1059
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:40.800
and have a chat with you.
So yeah, it's uh, you know,

1060
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:43.800
and share my story because I know
that there's not many from the UK

1061
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.880
that have been on if any ever
there, there's been I think one or

1062
01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:53.600
two. But yeah, it's it's
We've had a lot from Canada, We've

1063
01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.439
had a few from Australia, obviously
a lot from the States. But I

1064
01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:59.720
think you might be the second.
And he may have actually, you know

1065
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:01.920
what, actually been a UK guy
living in Australia or something like that.

1066
01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:05.880
Yeah, yeah, I just I
just really wanted to get on there and

1067
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:10.960
and you know, talk about my
experience, you know, because it was,

1068
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:15.840
like you said, on the front
line with the lockdown marches and you

1069
01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:19.079
know, the networking I've done,
you know, you know I met you

1070
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:26.279
the cake Shimarani, you know she
she was interviewed by David Bis recently.

1071
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:30.479
I've met all these people. It's
crazy because like all these all these people

1072
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:34.720
that are on YouTube in the truth, I've certainly the UK ones, I've

1073
01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:42.840
met them, seen them, had
the loads of them. It's it's it's

1074
01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.560
amazing. Like you know, I
went to a flat earth conference in Birmingham

1075
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:51.720
and Martin lead Key was there.
Allegedly Dave was in front of me and

1076
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:58.119
I didn't didn't actually speak to Dave
Dave Murphy. He was, he was

1077
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:00.479
on the table in front of me, and I was probably nervous because I'm

1078
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:06.720
what, I'm quite outgoing in certain
situations, can be quite shy or you

1079
01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:12.600
know, step back and yeah,
you know, I'm not I'm not really

1080
01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:16.199
the tire yea, how you doing
all the time? So yeah, but

1081
01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:18.840
I bit, I've met, I've
met, I've met all the people that

1082
01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:26.600
are at the forefront of of you
know, being visible on YouTube and everything,

1083
01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:30.760
and so it's it's not just like
an online thing for me. It's

1084
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:36.159
it's it's like it is online,
but it's reality for me as well.

1085
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:43.920
And like I said, because of
the experience that people have met and what

1086
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:47.760
what what you know, the activism, Yeah, I think it was a

1087
01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:55.439
reason why I wanted to share that
the UK side of things and my flat

1088
01:31:55.680 --> 01:32:00.239
journey. Yeah, you you let
it out incredibly well that the entire path

1089
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.880
from you know, nine to eleven
all the way up to just recently.

1090
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:10.640
And the last question that I want
to kind of end on is how important

1091
01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:14.600
is local activism? Right? We
are many of us. We do podcasts,

1092
01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:17.319
YouTube videos and things like that,
but to the audience, how important

1093
01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:28.439
is local activism. I think the
direction which twenty twenty one took, so

1094
01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:36.359
it was all the big London marches, and I think collectively or subconsciously that

1095
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:43.159
Freedom movement decided to do more local
activism. So in the end, the

1096
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:46.600
rebels and roundabouts, the stand in
the parks. It was across the UK

1097
01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:55.319
and Australia and other countries, but
here, like every corner of the UK

1098
01:32:55.600 --> 01:33:00.960
was being covered, so like people
were driving past the yellow boards in all

1099
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:08.760
kinds of obscure places, and I
think that local activism. Then we don't

1100
01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:13.319
we can't know the numbers, but
I'm sure that helped wake up a lot

1101
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:15.279
of other people. They might have
like dabbled on the internet. All of

1102
01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:18.720
a sudden they're driving in the car
and they see yellow boarder and I researched

1103
01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:24.720
that a minute ago. So all
that kind of you know, activism,

1104
01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:29.199
I'm sure stopped. The lockdowns are
in the UK of February twenty twenty two,

1105
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:34.359
and people are certainly more aware of
it. Passengers I have in the

1106
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:40.199
car, I can work out the
people who are in a different mindset,

1107
01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:46.119
and I've had some great conversations with
some of these passengers, and I've had

1108
01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:51.239
people that have admitted they got played
and they have been vaccine injured and everything,

1109
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:58.720
and they said that I wish I'd
listened to my conspiracy variest brother or

1110
01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:02.720
brother in law or whatever, you
know. So I've had people saying that.

1111
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:11.399
So yeah, I think local activism
is very important. And yeah,

1112
01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:16.520
if if you're on a you know, an act in local groups and then

1113
01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:20.399
and there truth seeking type of people. I think they're the people that you

1114
01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:28.079
can wake up to flat earth because
I think once you totally see where you

1115
01:34:28.159 --> 01:34:33.199
are, what you are, and
who you are, then that then you

1116
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:41.239
can then focus attention on on on
creating a better world rather than being amongst

1117
01:34:41.359 --> 01:34:44.319
all the fear you know, like
you know, I mean all this stuff

1118
01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:53.800
that is Ukraine and there Israel that
takes a big chunk of the truth seeking

1119
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:58.119
type people you know that are on
the right path mentally, but it takes

1120
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:02.159
their energy away and it goes a
bad negativity again. So if you could

1121
01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:06.720
say, look, I'm not playing
that game either, and you know,

1122
01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:15.279
like we can start creating communities,
start looking at growing food. I mean,

1123
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:20.079
I'm a bit envious of America because
you have more options to do this

1124
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:24.439
kind of stuff. You can just
Yeah, if you want to change your

1125
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:28.159
life in the usually can just go
and find another state, go and find

1126
01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:30.039
a landscape or a society that suits
you, and you can do that.

1127
01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:34.800
It's a bit tougher in the UK. We're a small little place and it's

1128
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:44.399
very expensive to live here. So
yeah, but I feel like even in

1129
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:51.880
the UK, I know people around
that are on this kind of kind of

1130
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:58.039
thing. If it was to go
really dark for a while, yeah,

1131
01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:00.039
and I think like they did with
a lot downs, I think they will

1132
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:05.840
introduce the CBDC YEP and they'll be
pushback. We're ready to roll again.

1133
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:12.439
They'll be five to ten fifteen million
people that will say no, we're not

1134
01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:17.680
having that in this country, so
bring on. There will be pushback,

1135
01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:20.880
and that's what we need to do
because that will be the ultimate. Again,

1136
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:25.520
that's a direct correlation to revelations that
that involves buying and selling, So

1137
01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:32.000
they're better be pushback. It's been
a wonderful interview. You've brought so much

1138
01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:34.760
to the table. There'll be a
lot in the show notes, but before

1139
01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:39.239
we go, give you the last
word and you can let people know about

1140
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.039
your mixed cloud and your Facebook,
which will be in the show. As

1141
01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:45.479
well. Yeah, so in that
time as well, I've kind of got

1142
01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:53.000
back into djane So if people want
to follow me on my DJ page or

1143
01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:58.199
play house music old school house,
hard house, which is probably a bit

1144
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:03.119
hard for most people, and the
trance music. And yeah, he used

1145
01:37:03.159 --> 01:37:05.920
the DJ and ibi for and I
kind of made a bit of a comeback.

1146
01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:11.439
So I'm playing a Freedom Festival in
July, No, No, August

1147
01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:17.560
twenty twenty four. I'm playing at
the Sounds Beautiful Festival in May twenty twenty

1148
01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:24.880
four. And he's all truth seeking
out festivals. So Danny Rampling, Mark

1149
01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:30.079
Devlin is playing at the Freedom Festival. David Ike was there last year.

1150
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:38.359
Yeah, so yeah, follow me
I mixed cloud that the link will be

1151
01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:43.039
in the show description and also the
Facebook page. And if there are any

1152
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:46.800
flat Earth filmmakers in the US that
wants to work with a drone pilot,

1153
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:51.000
I'm a flat Earth drone pilot.
I'll be more than happy to team up

1154
01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:57.239
with you for any documentaries and feel
free to contact me on the email that's

1155
01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:05.039
provided. It's a Broton email.
And yeah, I'm happy to discuss anything

1156
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:10.920
ready at anyone and anyone that wants
to have a reach out in the UK,

1157
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:15.119
US wherever. I'm well done,
and we do have a lot of

1158
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:19.000
folks in the production video production industry. You'll listen and email me quite often.

1159
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:24.840
So again, his information eighties information
will be in the show description,

1160
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:29.800
his email, his mixed cloud,
his Facebook and let's get more folks from

1161
01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:32.520
the UK and around the world on
the podcast. Again, we've had a

1162
01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:38.000
lot of Canadians, Americans, Australians. I'd love to hear from folks around

1163
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:41.439
the world. My schedule is flexible. I got up one time at midnight

1164
01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:44.159
to do an interview. Whatever it
takes to get the voices out there,

1165
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:48.920
let's do it. And again,
ad, I appreciate your time and you

1166
01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:53.560
know, opening people's eyes and the
truth and getting out on the streets and

1167
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:57.760
making a difference. You know,
kudos to you for everything you've done.

1168
01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:00.159
Brother, So thank you for your
time. I greatly appreciate it. No,

1169
01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:03.560
thank you, George. And yeah, hopefully I didn't waffle on too

1170
01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:08.920
much. There's a there's a lot
of things that I've been going on,

1171
01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:14.199
so it's hot to structure everything in
detail a bit. Yeah, hopefully you

1172
01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:16.439
know, you know asleep, Oh
no, maybe you are not at all

1173
01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:20.920
any folks. I've got like twenty
tabs for the show notes. So if

1174
01:39:20.960 --> 01:39:27.279
you guys want to learn more about
Joseph Gregory Hallett and the University of Pennsylvania,

1175
01:39:27.399 --> 01:39:30.680
I have I found that link while
we were talking, and many others,

1176
01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:33.520
So take the time to do the
research. Not not only that the

1177
01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:38.560
seven seven, by the Way bombings, but from folks down in Australia.

1178
01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:42.039
Take a look at what happened in
April of nineteen ninety six, which was

1179
01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:45.720
the reason why Australia really lost all
their guns. There's a lot more to

1180
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:49.600
that than meets the eye as well, So as we say, keep your

1181
01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:53.920
head on a swivel. So again, thanks to AD, thanks to all

1182
01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:58.319
the listeners. I think this might
be the last podcast of the year.

1183
01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:01.119
If it is, I wish you
well and we'll see you in twenty twenty

1184
01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:08.520
four and we'll be doing this more
often and better than ever. So again

1185
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:11.279
for AD and myself, God bless
you all, keep your head on a

1186
01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:15.920
swivel. And until the next time
we meet my friends, we will see

1187
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:24.479
it. I know it's been a
struggle. I don't know you've had Spain.

1188
01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:33.920
I know you feel tied hell down
all the way. Yeah, I

1189
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:44.199
know you feeling are you smile?
Ain't the same? I saw way go

1190
01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:53.720
farm? You feel like you've lost
your way? Don't give up. No,

1191
01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:59.760
don't give in. Never is home. Don't let go the primise.

1192
01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:03.840
It ain't done yet, he's gone. I'm glad. Why it's a right?

1193
01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:15.560
God up? Let me come?
Why wait? God up MC,

1194
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:30.640
I can see the straight beside you. Child's are putting up five. Oh,

1195
01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:34.840
you're stronger than a thing. You
are. Yeah, you're gonna be

1196
01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:45.640
all right. You're accepting a bad
bound beautiful you're shoving ride. Yeah,

1197
01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:51.560
you're living, breathing, moveing.
You can hold your head a pie.

1198
01:41:56.399 --> 01:42:00.880
Don't give up, No, don't
give in. Never loss home. Don't

1199
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:08.399
they go on the Primies? It
ain't donet's got a clay. What's a

1200
01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:13.760
waytown, the god of Mabe.
Come, don't give up. No,

1201
01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:18.800
don't give in. You never live
home. Don't let go on the Primies.

1202
01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:25.640
It ain't unlife. It's worth living. What's a way down? The

1203
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:34.920
god of baby Colt? Why sur
pray down? Got up steaming cold?

1204
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:43.920
Oh? Yes, what's a pray
down? The God of baby Colt?

1205
01:42:45.439 --> 01:43:00.720
Oh yeah, got steaming cold?
Oh, don't give up? No,

1206
01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:08.199
don't give in, never the soul. Don't let go of the primise I

1207
01:43:08.399 --> 01:43:15.000
made and done. Yes, God
I planning watching God Of if it comes,

1208
01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:19.960
And don't give up. No dog
give a help, but never the

1209
01:43:20.159 --> 01:43:26.159
hole. Don't let go of the
crimes. Get ain't done. Lovers for

1210
01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:38.880
living Watson and do the God of
in the coors Ah. The God of

1211
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:57.119
needs cos what's down the God Of? You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio

1212
01:43:57.199 --> 01:44:01.000
Network. Just the Fact's Maney

