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And welcome to another episode of the
Crime Pays but Batanitas and podcasts where they

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don't break that ibnoxious Chicago accent for
nearly the whole damn ninety minutes and here

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we go. And you know,
so that was what I was telling them.

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I said, you know, this
is a complex issue. This is

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a a multifaceted thing going on here, and a lot of people what they

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don't seem to understand. You know, you got there's a lot of moving

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parts through it. That's right.
People are think they got a grasp on

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it. But at the end of
the day, you know, nonetheless more

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or less when you boil it down, you know, to put a button

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on it, you know, it's
basically it doesn't mean anything. Yeah,

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there's a lot of aspects to it, right, and people aren't seeing this.

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It's multifaceted. Like I said,
you know, people aren't seeing what's

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really going on here. You know, they think you just look under the

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hood of a Chevy and you just
start thinkering around that it's going to start

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working for you. But that's we
know, that's not how it works.

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No, that there there's multiple facts
there is that are influencing a variety of

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concepts that are really underpinning a lot
of what's going on, and people don't

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understand that. And you know I'm
not, you know, with all respect,

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I'm not trying to you know,
I'm not without saying anything about you

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specifically, the behavior that I did
see exhibiting was less than ideal. I'll

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put it that way, right,
And you know, I you know now

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that we've got you here, you
know, we don't really we don't want

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to make you feel bad. And
by don't get don't get me wrong here,

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I'm not saying that I don't respect
you. It's just that you know

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your personal choices and your way that
you carry your life, and and you

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associated with, associate with problem the
ideas you purpot. You know, it's

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not that I don't respect you.
If you've been listening to I'm a speaker

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as well, I mean we got
to talk about that later as well.

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It's not that I don't respect it. It's just that I don't hold any

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respect for it, right, this
stuff, right, any of those things,

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So that we don't hold any respect
for any of those right right exactly,

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and we don't don't feel bad.
I don't get confused. It's not

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that I don't respect you. It's
just that I don't have any respect for

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you, right exactly, And you
know, and I just you know what,

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the way that you've been putting things, some of the ideas you've had,

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for instance, you know where this
is going, you know, with

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all due respect again, by all
means, you know, no if we

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are certainly not trying to imply anything
negative about you, no, right,

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no, no, we're trying to
apply anything negative about you. It's just

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some of the stuff you've been doing
and listening to, and the people you've

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been associating with, and basically everything
you say and all the ideas you're putting

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on a table just not working for
us. Yeah, everything you believe in,

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everything you hold dear, the way
you communicate, you're very you know,

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uh personal, right, what we
take to be your ethos. You

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know, everyone's got to and that's
fine some people that's fine, that's fine.

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You know, we just don't.
We just don't have any respect for

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it. Now, we don't disrespect
it, We just don't have any respect

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for it. Well, anyway,
now that we got that settled, hell,

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do you want to talk about where
we are and what we're doing right

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here? Now. Well, you
know, I really wish that the listener

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at home could come experience this with
us. We are in some beautiful eastern

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woodlands in the state of Maryland,
a college park, Maryland. We're back

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behind a hotel. We're in some
bummy woods. I kind of wish there

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was a blue tarp back here.
That's not a blue tarp, definitely like

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a little fire gone. Yeah,
you know, the sun is setting.

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We're in the dusk. You know, we're entering civil twilight. I'd say

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at the time of the day.
We're here at civil twilight in the in

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the woods of college Park, Maryland. Behind you want any beer? I

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do. And we're drinking some beers. We're drinking some men a beers and

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we're and we're you know, Town's
doing a stoke, which is a habit

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he picked up. Tell man,
don't don't really don't. You don't want

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it. Let's find out. So
you you guys heard it here first.

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If you know, if you've seen
this in a video and you think it's

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a prop well it started that way. And why we can't break the Chicago

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accident. This part of a psychosis. Right now, we're sure we've been

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you know, just you know,
we've just been workhorses for for this goofy

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TV show that no one can watch. I mean, well they might as

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well bury it under one hundred feet
of concrete. They're only showing it on

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cable. So you know, we're
just this is we're in the depths of

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psychosis now, that's right, right, we're stuck, you know, and

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uh, you know really like uh
you know, like we say it is

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a coping mechanism and uh, you
know, uh, because you know,

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I don't you know, with this
media stuff. We're doing stuff online and

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what have you do a little podcasts
with your stuff. There's a lot of

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people out there, right and you
know, at the end of the day,

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eating the landscapers. It hasn't been
that much habitat out here. And

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I'll spend a lot of time in
the suburbs, which we don't jipe too

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well with. You want to tell
them about that. Oh, it's a

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lot of time out here, you
know. It's a lot of time driving

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for one, right, really good
for your circulation system, you're good for

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your mind, for your emotions,
you know, and meeting suburban type people

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who are nice enough, they're fine, you know, they're fine, They're

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totally fine. We're not seeing you
know, nothing wrong with it. No

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shape, man, no shape,
no disrespect. Shade to the suburbs,

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right, that's fine that the suburbs
exist. I feel better if they didn't.

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But you know, no shade to
the suburbs. The car slum,

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the vehicle slum. You know,
the cities without sidewalks, you know,

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eight lane roads, plastic signs,
mode grass lawns, giant parking lots,

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massive shopping plazas. Right, just
terrible for the health, mental, emotional,

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spiritual and physical. Yeah, kind
of just devoid of anything that's sustained.

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Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with
that, you know, right,

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except everything We're just we've been really
in it, you know, in the

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depths of how you like that.
Oh and this was the point in which

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at which toning out, they they
just got down on our knees and they

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just and they just, uh,
you know, begged Lagaanitas for a sponsorship

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for the non alcoholic guy P and
A I p A. Right, you

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know, we talked to those athletic
guys. They got a whole line.

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But you know, for for those
who see that, for those who enjoy

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to taste the hops, but see
a problem with alcohol, you know,

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yeah, or have a problem with
alcohol themselves, but they want to imbibe

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seven to nine beers a night,
right, and not to the detriment of

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their relationships and or organ health.
I've never I've never actually had more than

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three nas at once, but I
do. Yeah, maybe maybe once,

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maybe that day by the woods with
the caboose, right, you may because

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I still get like sugar stick with
that, or you're playing with the mic.

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I asked you not to futch around
with the mic. I asked you

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not to do you know, you
futch it around with this stuff. That

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thing's gonna come down. I love
when you go when you go straight into

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Italian Uncle Moude. I'm fucking losing
it, man, I'm really, I'm

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really at the end of my you
know, we got four more days of

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this. Let's do this shoot four
episodes in seventeen days with one day off,

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and you could just not think.
I can't wait to get my mind

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back. I can think about other
stuff. It's really immersive. It's quite

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immersive, and it's just you wake
up and you're like, what am I

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doing today? Oh? Yeah,
I have to go be somewhere at eight

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am and talk to someone, not
that we go there at eight am,

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not that we're actually there, right, We try to make a policy to

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be a little late, you know, And that was something that I was

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really happy to experience, you know, where you're just like, you know,

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let's pump the brakes. Yeah,
it's just it's it's what we used

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to do with the railroad, you
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time. It's a it's called self
care. Right, that's right. I'll

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drink to that. Oh god,
damn the stuff hanging out in the subven

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and there's really not much have that
but to be here in the fall,

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these beautiful autumn leaves. Yeah,
we were here for the turning in these

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woods over ridden with invasives and deer, so many, Right, I got

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spooked by a big stag. There's
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the ticks come from, too.
Got every one of those fucking deer's probably

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got eight nine ticks on it.
Yeah, there's there's as many bed bugs

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this is at this hotel. There's
the fucking I've only I haven't been fucking

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with the motel breakfast. I'm probably
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some frozen berries. I haven't I
haven't gazed at a waffle or you know,

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dipping my toes into the biscuit and
gravy scenario. You know, because

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there's stuff. You know, it's
off from a bag. You know,

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it's basically Amtrak right, food car
food right. You know, there's some

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you know, sixty year old man
wearing a little flat you know, train

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hat with a apron on, and
he's back there in a little stainless steel

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gally kitchen. He'll microwave you a
pizza, right, you know, but

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it's gonna kill you and you don't
want to talk to you. No,

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you don't want to do that.
This I will say, though, This

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fucking little trail back here is nice. This really made it. I mean,

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when you got when you don't know
what to do, you just got

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to take a walk. You just
hit this little hiking trail and it goes

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on down to the college. You
could walk for fucking eight miles if you

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wanted to. Yeah, it's great
if every city had one of these.

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Can you imagine how much better mental
health would be people could just take a

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walk, you know. Yeah,
it would just be the kids, you

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know, doing pot and the bushes, you know, but it's a stewing

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pot out here and doing a podcast
here. So you know, something I

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really like about this walking trail is
is at the start of the spur that

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we're by just starts in the back
parking lot of like a really sketchy storage

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unit places. Like, yeah,
it's fine, you know, it's good.

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It's like in the cut, you
know. Yeah, man, you

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know, if every city, every
city should have this, like the opportunity

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to walk, there's not even the
opportunity to fucking walk. And in ninety

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percent of the United States, the
Carson Chicago, really I wish they would

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have kept more woods in the city, I know, I mean they kind

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of fucked that up. Yeah,
you just save a little bit, save

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a little bit of habitat, you
know. Yeah, it was really they

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could have they could have saved some
more Minneapolis. They did a good job.

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They kept some woods in the city. Should we should we talk about

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the show? Because no one listening
is probably gonna ever be able to watch

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us since it's on cable. Should
we talk about the I'm being totally serious.

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It's like the four episodes we had
all the fucking landscapers we fought with.

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There was two that were cool,
and they were two that were kind

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of hard. It's like last time
in Chicago there, I just the fucking

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landscaping thing drives me nuts. It's
just like, such a fucking guy.

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Never again. I want nothing to
do with landscapers. I never thought i'd

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have anything to do with landscapers.
You know. And for every ten you

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get, there's like two or three
that are cool, that are people you

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probably hang out with outside of it, like Howard you know, Gamel Gibson

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down are in Miami, Jeremy and
Jeremy, Oh the fucking two Jeremy,

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and then Hidden the gave Jeremy,
and then Jeremy in Chicago who got hidden

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A gave Jeremy who got stiffed for
that damask sculpture that looks like a Tesla

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charger. You know, I'm counning
on the guy that that owns and both

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made the sculpture not listening to this, and if if you are, I'm

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very sorry. I'm pretty sure either
of those people want. And then there

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was the Jeremy we met today that
look he looks like the guy that was

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in that band Weed Eater, or
he looks like he's got a look.

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He's got that beard. He looks
like he's in a stoner metal band from

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Richmond. That is for sure.
Fucking guy. I couldn't believe that makes

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his own soil out of biochar and
decomposed woodships, grows all his own ship

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from seed. He is some sort
of damn wizard. I think. What

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fucking blew my mind is that he
goes and catches invasive catfish and then he

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fucking liquefies them and then ferments that
ship for eighteen months with a bunch of

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molasses. Can you eat that?
Would you eat that stuff? You wouln't

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want to eat? The catfish depends, But he makes it fertilized. What

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if you got the catfish from the
Potomac. There's probably some nasty ship on

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there they're filtering. Oh, he
makes it with Wait why he makes fertilizer.

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He doesn't eat them? Fuck,
that's what he makes, fish based

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fertilizer. He goes, he said, he goes with his little son and

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a fish in the creeks by his
house and they pull out like buckets with

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his son with his son. Yeah
that wasn't his son though. No,

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No, we're going to this guy
with my stogy smoked. Fuck, it's

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you know, yeah, yeah,
he's you know, man, he's you

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know, it's fine. I hate
smelling cigarettes, but once in a while

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the cigars not too bad. And
I'm not I'm quitting this next month.

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I'm not doing Stogy's no more.
Yeah, it's you know, that was

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the thing that it, you know, cats out of the bag. It

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started as joking. It did start
as a joke, and now it's it's

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taking the life of its own.
And now I'm becoming a cliche. You

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know. There's my age as I
get older with the fucking Italian thing.

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Like with the cameraman today, when
I noticed, I said, he's not

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going to get that bottle of fucking
green tea. I already had one,

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but I said, I'm going to
take another because I seen him take mine

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last week. I remembered, you
know, and I said, you know,

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I know what he's doing, the
interior life of a geriatric. I

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know, if you knew, if
you knew what was going on up there,

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and the and just the plotting,
you know, like, oh you

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mean in my brain, Yeah,
the calculation things he's sold on to different

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mental maps and the era of you
know, slights and grievances and to be

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fair, to to be fair.
This is the only time I get identitarian

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at all, is this is this
comes with my identity. You know.

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This is a hereditary thing. This
is I got no control over this.

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This is what the epigenetics and my
my half Italian inside. You know,

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there's something, there's something going on
over there. That's what I got you.

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That nice nice Jerry etc. Guidos
sweater I got you. Yeah,

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it's like a nice long sleeve,
little three button collar. You it's a

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very nice gray marino wall when when
wearing one of those that I feel like

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that that's kind of like a like
a you would wear that to Thanksgiving because

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it's kind of a winter sweater,
you know, but it's dressy, a

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little dressy, but you know,
you wear it with some chinos and like,

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you know, it's like a lake
call. It's not you could do

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it at Christmas because it has the
red. You know, you could also

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be Christmas sweater. Right, So
it's flexible like that, it's fluid,

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but it's casual. You're not wearing
a tie, you know. No,

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No, I never never, never
do that unless we were dressing up as

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Mormons, and which we did too. Yeah, a lot of people they

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didn't understand them thing when they saw
little bits of it. They didn't really

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get the work. No, but
I think that's fine. That makes it

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funnier. They don't just understand it. They didn't really understand. Well.

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I think people don't expect to see
like comedy sketches in a fucking I guess

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this is technically a home and garden
show. Guy. That sounds terrible to

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say this is technically a garden show. Is I think it's a God.

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That's fucking awful. God that makes
me want to drink my own piss mixed

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with fucking cyanide and thankfully a lot
Anita's I p non as. No,

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they don't yet. It's good sponsored. I tried to get sponsored by what's

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that moisturizer company? I forget what
it was. They wanted nothing to do.

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It was fucking uh. I made
a spoof ad on them where I

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talked about how if you put this
fucking moisturizer on your face, you look

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like a pedophile. You're all like
sweaty. And I was like, I

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figured where I did it a couple
of years ago. Yeah, No,

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I don't think they're gonna I don't
think they they bit you know, he

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said, hey, guys, you
should sponsor me. Look, I made

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you. I made you a fucking
no god, I can't remember the name

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of it. My friend Erica gave
me a bottle, this moisturizer. No,

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no, no, no, it
wasn't scented. It didn't have a

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scent in it. It was like, because he used to get real dry

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in them deserts, you know,
real dry. Wasn't Sara v it was.

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I forget the fucking name we had. Hilarious, had hilarious name.

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It was a little pump bottle.
But then I learned that there was this

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thing and they put this compound in. It makes a little photo sensitive.

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And I said, that's enough funk
that it makes you photos Yeah, like

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it, she says after the sun. Why the fun would you someone who's

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moisturizing, What a funk would you
put some weird photo dermatitis ship and a

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moisturizer? What was the name of
god? I ca oh, youseritten didn't

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take Yeah, you know, I
don't think I'm the demographic that they're going

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for. I think it's more like
a you know, vanilla middle aged housewife

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thing. You know, got the
fucking speaking oways to the landscapers. I

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want to talk about the vibe here
in Pathesta because I feel like it's it's

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such a fun vibe for someone like
me to just bum out and I don't

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even have to try. I just
be myself. It's like the North Berkeley

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vibe. I call it the pouty
faced older white woman vibe. But and

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you know, that's no shape to
anybody. I know plenty of cool old

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white ladies obviously. Yeah. Yeah, but it's definitely here. It is

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present. How would you describe that? Nothing about botany in this podcast,

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By the way, we're just talking
anthropologically. You know, uh, DC

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is one of the most uptight places
I've ever been in the DC metro area.

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You were familiar with this. I
wasn't familiar here a few times.

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I've had friends living here for a
while, so I've come through a lot.

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And yeah, I've noticed that immalily. People like look at your shoes.

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People like look at your shoes and
how dirty they are, and like

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they look at your clothes, like
if you haven't had a hair cut.

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Stuff. They just look down on
you. People don't smile at you.

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People don't like greet your eyes and
you say hello on the street. You

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know, it's not like a really
classes, very classes, very classiest.

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Everybody's like, I'm seeing the line
there. You go, Okay, you

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could do it. Hit the button. Is it still going don't hit the

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button. I hit the I hit
the button. Yeah, but it's like,

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uh, it's like everybody is either
works on Capitol Hill, they work

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around Capitol Hill, and lawyers,
lawyers, lawyers, lobbies, policy makers,

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and then the people wh even the
people who like work in the service

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industry here are all have to you
know, kind of be that kind of

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presentable, you know, to serve
those people. So it's yeah, the

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the state of dress or the level
of dress that you have to just have

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casually every day. Here is a
lot worlds apart from where we were this

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think they're in America from where we
were birthed. You know, yeah,

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yeah, you could definitely be a
sweatpants slob in Chicago and be treated with

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the same respect and possibly even slightly
more than like the person behind you with

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a tie on, you know that
is truated with respect. Say you're waiting

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line somewhere like you have like an
unbuttoned polo shirt and there's like literally like

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some onions on. Yeah, you
know, sour kraut whatever you're ethnic.

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Uh, you know condiment dish of
choices, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, just sweatpants and like untied
sneakers that are like way too dirty

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and you know, just you know, comfortable clothes, you know. Yeah,

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I'm sorry smokers, No I like
it. I I yeah, it's

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that's you know. Yeah, Tobacco
is a cool plant. That's the that's

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the cool thing. And at pote
ceremony, I told you when they gave

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us those fucking corn the corn husk, and you you put some tobacco in

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it that gave you the taste the
first time I've had a cigarette in like

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almost ten years. Ship and then
here months later, now you're smoking something

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different. But then they take it
away from you. They let you just

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get a couple of puffs on that
Excuse me, excuse me, they get

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like you get a couple of puffs
in that corn husk cigarette, and then

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they take it away from you and
you put it back in a you know,

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put it back in a fire and
whatever. It's just rich ritualistic rather

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than daily. But these stories are
actually I don't actually hail these. Yeah,

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that nicotine though, once it once, it's gotcha. Your brain's like,

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I'll never forget the flavor. Yeah, it's just a flavor, man,

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It's nice, you know it,
and it compounds in there just you

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know, you got nicketinoid receptors,
receptors, you know, just get a

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get a little headache from it too. Yeah, especially with that, you

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get the smoke and the whole like
chawing on the really showing on it and

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like chewing on it. You know, you get all the yeah they're smoking

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and you yeah during the unhands drunken
crab fisherman bit. Yeah, you'll have

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to hopefully someone will upload these to
fucking if What do you think Earth I

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s Would say if they caught us
talking about pirating our own show, which

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I have not had anything to do
it. I'm just talking about the fact

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that it has right. I didn't
fuck I certainly even fucking uploaded. I

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don't have access to it. I
didn't do any of that. I don't

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know how to do that stuff.
I don't know how to do any of

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that stuff. But but it is
out there, so hopefully, well I

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don't want to say that because there
it's out there, and now it'll probably

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someone probably do it with Season five
dispute. If somebody told me, they

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showed me it's out there. I
just can't believe they put it on cable,

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like no one can watch it.
No one can watch it. Yeah,

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I think it's it's they were trying
to they were they were deciding to

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be a streamer or a cable channel, while all the streamers were like conglomrating

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last year. I got in dragged
twice and no one can watch it,

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you know, but people watch cable
needs to see you and drag. Yeah.

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A bunch of boomers trying and say
we're grooming their kids because we dressed

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up like old ladies. I hope
they do, you know, honestly,

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I hope they do. Yeah,
the goddamn groomer. But you know,

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people gen X people are like fifty, you know now, and so it's

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like they're kind of loose. Yeah. Yeah, but they moved to the

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suburbs too. I don't know if
they get cable, they gotta they got

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a sling or something. Yeah,
these say like some technology for like fifteen

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years ago. It's like, what
do they got a sling or they got

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a room back what you know,
for the for the channels. Oh and

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like like a no you no,
like a rool, like a box you

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get they like they're having like a
bathhouse. You know what you know,

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I know what you're doing there.
I know what you're doing there where your

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mind goes the center. Explain what
a fox ling is? You filth bag,

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fucking dirt bag. You know.
I listened to this just for the

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plants. I mean, he's really
obnoxious and he's got a you know,

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a I don't get the whole Chicago
stick. But and once the time he's

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got good plan information on there.
But really this one was just unhand.

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It was just obnoxious. They were
They didn't talk about anything related by me.

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It was just very There's episodes that
I'd skip the I just I just

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want to hear a podcast about beams, and I felt like I'd been mugged.

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That was a proud comment. I
got got to look at these beaches

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though, the Vegas Grand the Folio. That's my first time ever getting you

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know, getting cuddly with Vegas Grand
the Folio. Oh yeah, deliciously so

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oh yeah that what happened to the
rest of the mushroom. We got it

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really, Oh you still got it? Yeah, it's still good. We

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got it in the bag. We
can check on it. We can check

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on it. But it's been it's
been in a double layer brown paper bag,

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in a sack, in a brown
double layer brown bay in the woods

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here. That's that sounds good.
But it's been in the bag and refrigerated,

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and it was pretty it was a
pre mature fruit it was talking about.

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So it was wood hockey. Yeah, yeah, right, that's what

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we're talking about for anyone less than
beautiful my hockey. One of the most

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delicious mushrooms found under these beautiful beaches. You're right, it's way better with

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the butter too, not the ali. It's been settled. The bit has

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been settled. Was like, I'm
thinking it's like jardonara and stuff, you

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know. Oh yeah, wish Trader
Joe's would have jardanira. It's you can't

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get it outside of Chicago. The
region you get it like northwest Indiana and

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southern Wisconsin probably but right, but
you can't get and probably you know the

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rest of northern Illinois out bite Joe
Davies County you could probably get some beautiful

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fucking woods though. Man, the
East Coast forest vibe, it's all deciduous

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woodland, the only openings having been
created by Native Americans. They kept on

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that stuff. They burned it,
they cleared it, they did their agriculture,

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they did all kinds of animal husband
dream what you imagine how fucking bumm

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they'd be to see what's happened to
their land. Cars. I think they

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are. I think they are.
You could ask them, they're still They're

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still here. I know, I
know, I know. I'm talking about

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people who actually, like the seventeenth
century. Yeah, I'm not talking about

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like, you know, just some
of the hams to be Native American,

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but like works as a plumbers and
right right right, like yeah, people

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that lived and fucking yeah yeah,
the oh gs, but like sixteen hundred

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people like, oh, this is
what they do? You guys do They'd

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say, Jesus Christ, he's fucking
sick. They know it was sick.

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Yeah, I mean the sick from
the beginning. They were like what are

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you doing? Yeah. They had
such vicious takedowns. You like read some

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of the first hand sources of what
these chiefs were saying. It was just

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like, wait a minute, I
feel that way too. I was raised

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in this ship. But uh yeah, man, I don't know. It

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is nice being in these forests.
It's still fucking ninety five where I live.

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Oh yeah, I can't wait to
be done with this. Yeah,

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I can't wait to get done and
not think about it because normally we go

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to habitat, but there's no habitat
out here. Really. Yeah, what

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did Jeremy the landscaper say today?
He said, what habitat about? It

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was all turned to agriculture. This
is where the honky death culty. Yeah,

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the European Settlement started. All of
that John Smith's stuff is just skip

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and a jump. They didn't and
they didn't say nothing. You know what's

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it called? The manifest Destiny on
that ship was here for and all that

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stuff, yeah, titled and just
yeah did all kinds of terrible stuff.

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Murdered people, just destroyed the landscape. Going to the fucking museums here,

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it is nice though. Yeah.
We should go tomorrow, so yeah,

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and we should. We should sneak
up somehow. There are we doing tomorrow

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or we're planning. We're planting at
the church. Yeah, we got to

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plant some stuff there. I guess
just if you don't want to plant,

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don't worry. Just hang out with
me while I do it. You know,

404
00:26:56,319 --> 00:27:00,519
the plantings, the planting is fine, but I'm like, they blow

405
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:06,240
off the plane because tomorrow we're going
to the uh uh, the that national

406
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,000
because there's two, the National Botanic
Garden and oh yeah, the US Botanic

407
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,359
Garden. We're going to the one
that that lady got mad at me for

408
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,839
touching the pavonia. Remember I told
you that one. Yeah, she said

409
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:21,000
don't touch it because if everybody touched, I said not, everyone's touching it.

410
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,720
First off, that's how you learn. His hands on learning. I'm

411
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,400
like trying to take a picture of
this thing and I'm holding the branch.

412
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,880
I can get a you know,
good photo and then excuse me there,

413
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:34,000
Jesus Christ really like a yeah,
scolded by a docent or she I don't

414
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,000
know if she worked there whatever,
you know, it's like, really,

415
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,640
come on, man, care,
I'm gonna put this thing down. I'm

416
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,079
not ripping it off. I'm gonna
be out of here and not going to

417
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,079
come back. And you know,
fucking ten years you can see me again,

418
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:48,519
to see for a minute and a
half, but now she might see

419
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,119
you again. Yeah, now you
might see me again, and I'm gonna

420
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,720
be just as annoying as the first
time. So they got a lot of

421
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,559
good stuff. They had out strong
below, Donnie. They're really it's just

422
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:03,640
really weird. P it's got these, it's got pended INFLI It's yeah,

423
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:11,680
it's a Philippines and tended in Florence. And they call it the blue You

424
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,799
need yea. Let me make sure
this thing is still doing this? Is

425
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,720
it still what he's got? They
don't want to listen that. No one

426
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,839
wants to listen to this. Let
me. I want to hear his goofing

427
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,480
here. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes, they got

428
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,480
a strong gloat on there they got
they got some nice stuff. They got

429
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,039
some interesting stuff. They don't have
an amberella, which is like at the

430
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:40,720
base of the angiosperm family train.
Let me get that real quick. Yeah,

431
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:42,440
yeah, I just I just didn't
want to tear up your pliers here.

432
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240
I can, like you just pick
at it like that. There's no

433
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,039
just a little full crumb, you
know. Yeah, yeah, it's just

434
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:56,400
getting you know, let's get it
a little purchase area. There are nice,

435
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,519
man, they are. I wonder
if they do they make these at

436
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:02,680
the chicag Brewery. I don't know, do you get it open? Yeah?

437
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:07,400
Thank you, And they make it
in the California. I hear you.

438
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,160
You guys creeping poor bastards too.
It's not their fault. All the

439
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,480
predators have been wiped out. They're
over populated, just walking pick farms on

440
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:19,680
hooks. You know. They put
some deer stands up in some pretty uh

441
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:23,680
close to residential places out here.
I notice you think they're shooting them.

442
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,559
I think people they may they may
do some bows. They got a call.

443
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,880
There may be some they'll land up. They'll just end up getting smacked

444
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,960
by cars and just you know,
nick everything down. They might be run

445
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,640
over by Mercedes and Chevy Chase Maryland. We couldn't have that. What a

446
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,440
fucking vibe, man, that was? That Bethesda ship was unreal. Everyone

447
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,799
wearing a padagon your vest, yeah, or like a tie on a Sunday

448
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,200
morning, just like the palest people, pale in face and in heart.

449
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,880
Yes, I see hearts. You
know they're probably suffering out of you inside

450
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:03,039
too. Let's recommend Bethesda for I'm
candidate for mass testing of NDMA therapy.

451
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:11,559
So the sucybin and aquifer approach to
mass dose. You don't need to act

452
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,160
like that. Are you trying to
seek validation and feel like you're better than

453
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:21,599
other people? It really might be
a nice way to showcase your own void

454
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,119
and holes on the inside of your
spirit. Let's address those first and you

455
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:30,039
can become a more compassionate, loving
individual. Just patch them up like drywall.

456
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,759
Life puts holes in the in the
drywall, spackling putty for your soul.

457
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:40,079
Slather it on there, you know, you know, ton, As

458
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:44,359
we sit out here in the darkening
woods of civil twilight, as you puff

459
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,200
a stogie and wear a pattered Vietnam
fatigue jacket and we speak of dose in

460
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,599
the water supply, I start to
wonder if we've gone off the edge.

461
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,680
My friend, this is this is
the Vietnam bat jacket that's got the pocket

462
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,160
sowed on the inside. I'm real
proud of that. When I was six,

463
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,400
I saw the pocket the size of
a spray canty inside of this coat

464
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:10,039
and would use it for graffiti tools
and as well as illegally procuring such things

465
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:14,920
that big box stores in the Chicago
area. A bag is conspicuous. You

466
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,160
got a vape pet? Oh yeah, I don't even know weed was legally

467
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,599
here in d C. And Maryland. Yeah, both places. It's cool

468
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:23,440
Virginia too, isn't it. Then
we then we see it. I saw

469
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,680
a cannabis dispensary, but you know, I forget what side of the Potomac,

470
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,160
but like an actual dispensary, not
like a sketchy cbe d vape shot

471
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:36,319
right right, not like somebody's uh
talk about that. That was it?

472
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Delta nine? What's the fake ship? Delta eight? Delta n didn't I

473
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,400
remember you got really pizzo about some
Delta nine weed and you were like,

474
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,400
what is this? I think so, yeah, it was gummies or some

475
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,599
Yeah it was. You know,
there's some corner stores in Chicago, I

476
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,359
think where they just put the regular
gummies in the quote unquote Delta eight bags.

477
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,039
And really yeah, they're just kind
of like, oh, they're they're

478
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,880
trying to be the fake they're saying
it's the fake ones. They're saying they're

479
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,359
saying it's a fake one so they
can sell it openly. Right, you'd

480
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,480
want to get moving, hold on, I got to pack up then if

481
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,599
you want to. No, I'm
just standing up. I'm just shifting.

482
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:14,799
I'm just shifting around. Yeah,
I can't remember where were we we were

483
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:17,720
we spent the first week and that
was that was a true car slum.

484
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:22,400
This is walkable. It's got these
trails before what was the oh uh something

485
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,240
Mills Owings Mills, Oh yeah,
by Baltimore. That was rough. Yeah

486
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:30,119
that we never went saw the John
Waters neighborhood. I never went and saw

487
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,400
any of that stuff, the spot
where Pecker was filmed and didn't get a

488
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,599
chance to do anything, which fucking
working. Yeah exactly, man. Yeah,

489
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,839
I wanted to see Camden too,
and to the different we go to

490
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,799
downtown Baltimore and go to the wharf
and stuff like that. But yeah,

491
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,119
it's just a grind and it's like
it at the end of this stuff when

492
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,680
you're just like talking all day and
interacting with people, it's like takes it

493
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,279
out of you mm hmm. And
then it's just like you got you got

494
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,279
nothing left. It's funny though,
we have had the meats and like rather

495
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,119
stiff people like you're fucking stiff,
not loose loose is like like stiff,

496
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,039
like they were like, well,
Heath quirky. Maybe you know they're they're

497
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:12,400
not not someone that invite into my
house. They're quirky, you know,

498
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400
I don't know, I don't know. I'm not saying I just definitely I

499
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,920
was, you know, holy ship, they were willing to meet with us

500
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,440
that It's amazing, you know.
So it's like the vibe is that the

501
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:24,039
vibe we necessarily want to put out
for the show, you know, I

502
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:30,279
think somebody sometimes I wonder if that
vibe from people is because they're kind of

503
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:34,200
like nervous about going It could it
could be that it could be that where

504
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,759
they're just like, oh, this
is really intense and not something I do

505
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:42,000
right where you and I are like
somebody point a camera. We have no

506
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,839
self respect, so we're willing to
embarrass ourselves. No, we think our

507
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,680
jokes are funny, and we found
people who enjoyed kidding. Yeah, I

508
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,559
really I don't give everything. I'm
fine with I'm fine capitable do I just

509
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:57,039
you know, it's it's all the
same to me. Whatever. But yeah,

510
00:33:57,079 --> 00:33:59,880
sometimes I think people are nervous and
it comes off as like it might

511
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,920
be being tight, you know,
like, but there is There have been

512
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,319
a couple of times where like you
crack a joke in there, you know,

513
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:13,159
like a certain flavor of joke and
you could go there depends, Yeah,

514
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:17,599
which channel of joke, right,
But uh, I don't know.

515
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,400
It's cool. I mean, I'm
hopeful. I'm just I'm hopeful about the

516
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,679
quote unquote movement picking up more kill
your lawn movement. Yeah, it's real

517
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,119
talking to these nursery owners, talking
to these landscapers loss to Like, there

518
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,639
was a bunch of places, what
was it, a summerset, small little

519
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,960
town in chevy Chase. They were. Now, it's you can't if the

520
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:46,079
city can't plant non native plants in
their landscaping, it's got to be natives.

521
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:51,199
Yeah. And so that Japanese barbering
and all that stuff you ripped out,

522
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:57,400
that was like the last gasp of
landscaper builders special. Oh god.

523
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:01,199
Yeah, they put these houses and
then just fill them with with fucking just

524
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,639
a famous ship because their house was
kind of new and they had they had

525
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,159
these you know, brand new plants
that were like you put in a year

526
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:13,760
ago, and they were like awful
home deepo atrocities. Japanese barbary like ship

527
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,039
that ends up in a forest.
Yeah, would end the wild right here.

528
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,079
English Ivy. That's a fucking nasty
one. You know, sold this,

529
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,320
I've seen it soul. There's like
little like planter pots. You know,

530
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,239
you could get it like the fucking
Hallmark store or whatever. It's a

531
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,880
little bits of English ivy and like
a little figurine in there with fucking oh

532
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,199
yeah, we'll kind of like a
little you know, it's like a little

533
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,639
precious moments like a smile and waving
frog and all, Okay, it's got

534
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:42,840
a cute little thing in there.
It's not like it's you know, it's

535
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:50,000
not like uh my uh first grade
graduation or the kid pissing one happy Yeah

536
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:54,760
exactly, the grandma's day Dutch boy. Yeah, exactly exactly. Once you

537
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,320
get a nice you know, uh
uh peeing angel child. Oh you know

538
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,760
kind of some people are into that, I guess, you know, like

539
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,599
the little ping fountain or the fountain
comes up here right, they're all like,

540
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:08,760
you know, what if you ever
you know what the boy fucking turtle

541
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:14,199
statue and oh yes I do.
I've seen it in person. I've seen

542
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,960
it in person. It's really what. It's really funny. Oh it's so

543
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:21,480
weird. I love when towns have
a joke like that. Like Worcester,

544
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:25,639
Mass has so much character and spunk
and tradition and community and shit, it's

545
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,159
so cool. But yeah, last
time you were in Whistler. When's the

546
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,559
last time I was in Worcester.
That is a good question. Nice diners

547
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:35,320
there, they got, Yeah,
this's getting a fucking head. I guess

548
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:38,280
at the end of that stoke.
God I was. I think I was

549
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:45,639
in Worcester in like twenty seventeen or
eighteen. She was twenty seventeen. This

550
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,239
is the last of my three na
there's twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen. I

551
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,800
haven't been to Worster in six years. That breaks my two thousand and six

552
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,400
for me. I think, oh
shit, it was two thousand and five.

553
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,480
I don't know, two thousand six, I guess. Yeah. Summer

554
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,599
of two thousand and six, we
did a cross Canadian train riding trans Canadian

555
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,079
railed right right, and I got
questioned by the FBI and fucking Maine because

556
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:15,280
I was with this guy used to
be friends with who had some sort of

557
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,280
flag on his name for some dumb
ship. What it was for, but

558
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,920
they were yeah, it was crazy, they got. I got interrogated by

559
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,000
this fbig and it looked like a
moose. Yeah. It was in some

560
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:28,960
bump fuck town and Maine up there
and what if I can't remember where fun

561
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:30,559
we were there were there were four
of them. It was a border crossing

562
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:35,079
or they just found you guys.
It was this small town and they we

563
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:39,000
had backpacks and they knew they knew
we were. Yeah, they knew we

564
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,360
were. We stuck out like a
sort of thought. Yeah. It was

565
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,320
like a three hundred person town road
and they were like, who are these

566
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,960
scary hobos? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean I don't even have many tattoos.

567
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,079
Then I was yeah, that was
that just the nearest cop or something

568
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:58,639
to talk to you or yeah,
and then if they when they typed my

569
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:00,719
friend's name and some ship came up. It was some like realated to some

570
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,880
stupid protesting been at you know,
fucking I don't know what the fuck,

571
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,199
but years before but uh and this
was like post nine eleven, so that

572
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,599
was you know, homeland security and
it was me Ross, Julia and Miss

573
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,880
Max l R I P. And
uh, yeah, it was a big

574
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,079
deal. So we ended up being
like fuck this, we took it.

575
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:27,199
We took we hitchhagged back down to
think the Worcester, Worcester or Boston caught

576
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,400
the caught a Q caught a train, out of c S. Sex.

577
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,519
It was like a Q number.
That's I used to number back then.

578
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:36,639
We took it from from Boston to
fucking Buffalo, got off in Buffalo,

579
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,079
took a bunch of buses and walked
across the Niagara. Got in no trouble.

580
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:43,039
They just led us into Canada.
It was cool. Hung on Toronto

581
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:46,639
for a day or two. Caught
a train, ended up in a capriol

582
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,360
Ontario, Sudbury, and I figured
where the fuck it was, some little

583
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,400
trainer where there were wild blueberries in
the yard. And then I learned about

584
00:38:53,440 --> 00:39:00,280
the Shudbury Crater, which was a
meteorite crater that hit Sudbury On area,

585
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,480
Canada, a billion and a half
years ago. And his wife is so

586
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,039
mineral. He had a lot of
old rocks up there. When I was

587
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,440
just getting into geology too, and
I was like, this is fucking cool,

588
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,320
all this stuff from space. Yeah, but like it was such an

589
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,480
epical There wasn't much life on land
back then, you know, anyway for

590
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:19,280
to get fucked up, so it
didn't cause a mass extinction. I don't

591
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,239
think most of the life was in
the oceans, but it must have been

592
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,280
a big event. But it's caused
all these different minerals. There's a lot

593
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:30,840
of weird mining up there, you
know, up there and gentle tolerant,

594
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:37,880
intolerant Subbury capriol, capriole, you
are, thank you. I forget the

595
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:46,880
Shudburyed Crater natural so much mining up
in Canada and all that fires summer,

596
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:54,239
oh yeah, climbs, Yeah,
there you go. I guess those forts

597
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,599
do burn every fifty years or something
like long, really long intervals. But

598
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,320
this seemed pretty unusual. I mean, there were so many fires out there.

599
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,320
It's not often that you get all
the climate then ires are like,

600
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,079
oh, this happens, It's fine, you know, but really you get

601
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:15,400
like the sun blotted out in Chicago
and New York from fucking wildfires is five

602
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,760
hundred miles away. That's that's a
new one, I think. Yeah.

603
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:25,960
Yeah, conditions are changing. Yeah, but uh earth Sanga nursery was cool.

604
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,960
Oh super cool. That was super
cool. His name Matt, yeah,

605
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:36,000
his dad started it, a preservationist
nursery. What was the lady's name,

606
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,079
Catherine? Fuck, I'm so bad
with names. I'm trying to just

607
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,559
pad burn a candle both ends,
you know, I got these days,

608
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:47,800
these names, you know. Anyway, but uh, you know you're driving

609
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,079
home. You're just gonna go thrifting
on the way the way back or what.

610
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,679
I want to see the mountains.
I'm gonna drive through West Virginia.

611
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,440
Might see some buddies in Elkins.
You know, it's the West Virginia is

612
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,920
like the heart of old times Appalachian
music in a lot of ways, which

613
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,440
you enjoy, which I enjoy quite
a bit. Yeah, and there's some

614
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:13,159
some cool some cool stuff and yeah, Elkins, West Virginia and Morgantown and

615
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,840
things like that out there, you
know, as might stop and see some

616
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,239
friends there. Cincinnati. You know, I've never been to Southeast Ohio and

617
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,679
go through there too. Yeah,
but uh yeah, just driving straight across

618
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:30,320
the Appalachians through West Virginia, that's
gonna be beautiful. Then you're gonna get

619
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,320
home to Chicago and it's gonna be
so chilly. Yeah, it's gonna it

620
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,800
is. It is gonna be chilly. You're gonna be home before Halloween.

621
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,000
What, Yeah, I'm gonna be
before Halloween and go, uh and go

622
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:46,360
hang out with my mom, my
brother and his kids for Halloween. You

623
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,159
know. Every you know, they
got the little caddiers and they paint the

624
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:54,159
whiskers and and stuff like that.
It's a whole West side that's nice.

625
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:59,599
A lot of trick or treaters still
on the northwest side, yeah, you

626
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:04,320
know, Northwest general area. Yeah
yeah, but yeah yeah around there,

627
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,880
a little a little south of there. Chicago does Halloween real nice, dude.

628
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:14,039
Yeah. Oh they do. Yeah, good houses and goofy spooky stuff.

629
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,280
You've got a lot of working class
artistic types there, you know.

630
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:22,280
You got there's a lot of creativity, a lot of creativity in the city,

631
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:23,920
and humans are creative in general,
but in the city, you've got

632
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,000
an audience for your Halloween decorations,
and you get to like share your skills.

633
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,880
Yeah, like Off Archer some of
the southwest Side, or some people

634
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,800
who just go nuts with their front
yard, you know. Yeah, he's

635
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,119
like they've only got like a small
front yard, dude, Like not that

636
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:44,280
big man, but they they they
fucking spruce it up with the Halloween dex

637
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,599
you know. Yeah. Man decorators
and and carpenters and stuff, all kinds

638
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,239
of construction. People just have like
their house, you know, and then

639
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:59,079
they have all these skills and make
these amazing displays. Yeah. I don't

640
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:00,679
know, I gotta this fucking book. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

641
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:04,119
I'm gonna hang out with my daughter
for a few weeks and then I

642
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,519
guess and just take off head out
on the road and just try to write

643
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,559
a bunch of shit. Get it
together. It's already up there. I

644
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:15,400
just gotta put it together. Yeah, man, you we're a long form.

645
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,440
Writing is something you've kind of always
done. And I bet it's percolating.

646
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,840
I bet it's been percolating. Yeah, And I've got a bunch of

647
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,320
ship written already, so it's starting
to get chilli. Yeah, let's finish

648
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,000
the spare. I guess we could
call it quits right there, you know,

649
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,360
you know I might, yeah,
pop this one for a walk,

650
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,239
you know, let's walk, you
know, let's do it here. Let's

651
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,880
just do it here, do you
I can? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah.

652
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,519
You want to talk about let's talk
about our endorsement of outdoor urination.

653
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,199
And there's an art to it,
because you can't. We don't endorse pissing

654
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:59,679
a concrete We don't endorse pissing on
leaves of pliants unless there but we do

655
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,000
and go ping in the soil as
long as it's in a you know area,

656
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,159
a relatively music or hypercipitation area where
you know it's the rain is going

657
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,639
to break up the aurea because there's
nitrogen in that yar and you just like

658
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,000
you with water, but the urea
is gonna burn right. Oh God,

659
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:20,320
the fucking s got me a little. Who then then I got you out

660
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,719
here walking in the woods at dark, in the dark woods. I've done

661
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,639
this every night. I did this
last night too. Was so nice again

662
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,519
having a trail, having the opportunity
of walking without any cars around, without

663
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:36,039
the risk of getting hit or killed
or just the obnoxious yeah, yeah,

664
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,920
without the fucking noise and the light
hat it's a fucking annoy and the plastic

665
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,360
signs of coming. I don't think
people from other I guess they can't people

666
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,320
from other countries can imagine just how
the prave the American landscape is like.

667
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,400
It is just a commercial car cesspool. I talk about this shit all the

668
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,280
time. I don't want to talk
about this more, but I'm just putting

669
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,320
it out there. It's a stark
contrast to the beautiful woods in which where

670
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,840
we walk now, yeah, and
we just stepped onto like a walking bridge.

671
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,519
Yeah, you know, these fucking
theer just everywhere. You know,

672
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,519
you guys are really just you're getting
away with the lot. Yeah, if

673
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,159
you're covered in ticks too, I
could see all of them on you.

674
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:20,599
Not really, but generations of deer
I've seen today just yeah, you know,

675
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,000
like they're like packs of robing teams
with like baseball bats and chains and

676
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:28,760
stuff, except they got antlers instead
of that stuff, you know, and

677
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:35,679
they've lost their fear of people.
Chilli. I saw Kela Karpa here.

678
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,440
I thought it was Americana, and
it turns out it's the invasive Asian one,

679
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,239
invasive beauty berry no ship, It's
like an invasive evenue. There's that

680
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,760
invasive Lespondisa that's out here. It's
like an invasive version of all these native

681
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,239
plants. Yeah, yeah, I
mean it's just because you know, there

682
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:58,880
was I wonder about that. By
geographically, how you got you know,

683
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,679
they they must not have split too
far back in terms of millions of years

684
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:07,920
in the lineage. I think there's
a you know, these disjunctions between Asia

685
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,880
and the East Coast and North America
typical you know, the ASA gray thing.

686
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,320
It was a botanist who pointed that
out These you know closely related species

687
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:21,559
that occurred both in Asia and and
uh the eastern United States. It probably

688
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:25,440
got there going you know, high
latitude, the high latitude wereroute probably Oh

689
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:29,920
no ship, Oh yeah. I
flew over Greenland once. Man, it

690
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:34,920
was wild, just white. It
was just white. Jesus fucking Chris.

691
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,159
Look at that thing. There's a
tank. Yeah, very massive, big

692
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:44,440
deer with the white ass. Flew
over Greenland and it was Greenland to Frankfurt,

693
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,079
then the South. We went to
South Africa. They're coming back.

694
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,280
It was holy shit, man,
Just flying over green was cool. It

695
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,880
was just like these just all white
with these like black mountains poking up.

696
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,480
Wow. It was so cool to
be able to see. And then I

697
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,880
imagine five million years ago into like
the Miacene or something. It must have

698
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,400
been a lot warmer. There were
probably forest down there. You know,

699
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,119
it's chili. Listen to the russell
of the listen to the rustle of the

700
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:14,639
leaves, so nice. And the
moon is high and bright. You see

701
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:16,440
where this stairs. They got this
fucking golf course down here with this fence

702
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,719
that looks like it should be run
an airport, like it's a really like

703
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,599
a medium security prison. Yeah.
And some kids pulled it up on the

704
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,320
on the bottoms, probably so they
could go funk around the golf course,

705
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,360
take a ship in the ninth hole
or something, you know, do some

706
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:34,360
mild vandalism like kids do. Vandalism
is important when you're a team. You

707
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,480
know, there really is. You
just got to pick your targets wisely,

708
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,760
all, you know. True,
Yeah, don't don't, don't hurt no

709
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:49,599
grannies. No, but go go
fuck up a golf course, shoot in

710
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:52,400
the ninth hole or something. Don't
look at that beautiful moon it's place.

711
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:57,199
It is fucking brist This vet cooat
doesn't do ship man. This is not

712
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,039
a warm coat, that captain coat
they bought me for the yeah, for

713
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:04,199
the bit. That thing's warm as
hell. I'll tell you what, Joe,

714
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,880
you put that old Guidos sweater on
underneath that that would go. Yeah,

715
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,920
then I'm gonna fall into this part
and I'm gonna blame you. I

716
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:17,360
just keep giving you these very pointed
gifts, like a big pair of like

717
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:22,119
thick uh thrist store. You find
that in here? I got that here.

718
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:28,039
Yeah. Yeah, I've been doing
a little you know, cope thrifting,

719
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,840
you know, like a thrift wizard. Yeah, I've been got to

720
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,280
find a coping mechanism. I'm running
out now, you know. Yeah,

721
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,280
I mean living in the pells.
Yeah, man, it's wild. It's

722
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239
wild. But they had an amazing
thrift store here. It's it's a unique

723
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,320
and of value village right next to
each other, in the same in the

724
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:51,480
same place. K no U n
I q u E unique. Oh not

725
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:55,199
like unique the Chicago chain of thrift
store no same one. Yeah, it's

726
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,559
a national brand now where it has
spelled it unique with you and e K

727
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:04,519
no ship really yeah, they used
to. There was one on the south

728
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,880
side. Is this a Mandela effect
right now? What's that where you remember

729
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,440
it spelled that way? And other
people do, but allegedly it never was.

730
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,719
I don't know, man, I
could be spooky. There's some spooky

731
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,920
you know. Think about Crane was
about to come, you know, rolling

732
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:27,000
down his bike path over this little
bridge. I'm gonna throw this bottle on

733
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:30,480
the golf course. Good job.
Yeah, there you go. Well we're

734
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:35,400
not anti litering completely. Just depends
again, it just just depends, you

735
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,039
know, it just depends. Why
he's it just seems really mad, you

736
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,880
know, talk Why don't you why
don't you just do a little bit of

737
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:44,119
I don't want to do no,
no, no, I'll do it.

738
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,280
L it's you know, I got
a lot of ship going on. You

739
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,159
don't want to do too, you
don't want to do anything. Yeah,

740
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,000
my daughter being sick and yeah,
no, I'm yeah. You don't want

741
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,639
to get over focused. No,
I gotta yeah, I gotta take it

742
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,920
easy. I'll do that. It's
a special time, you know, when

743
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,559
I'm stretching, when I'm doing my
yoga or something, when you the limber

744
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:07,840
staying limber. Oh cool and Judo
cool. They were super cool. A

745
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:15,159
pleasure meeting them, brilliant scientists,
neuroscientists, charming folks. By yeah,

746
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:20,239
I moved here. Tons of perspective, just that, I mean having the

747
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,320
perspective of two vastly different places,
you know, like a huge I love

748
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:30,840
that. I think fucking travel and
just a wealth of experience is a pool

749
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,199
of different experiences in life is so
important for people. And a scientific framework

750
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,079
too. Oh yeah, who was
I talking to? Who is telling them?

751
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:40,800
Telling me about their kid was going
to go to school? And oh,

752
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,519
a friend of mine was telling me
about that, and I was like,

753
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,880
no, don't he's like my kid's
gonna My kid's mom is trying to

754
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,280
get him to go to college of
high school, don't fucking do that?

755
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000
Tell him to take like a year
or two off. You don't know what

756
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:52,800
the fuck you want to do when
you get out of high school. You

757
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,119
just want to get a taste of
the world, Like you have no idea

758
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:58,519
who you are. You don't haveing
fucking identity yet, you know, yeah,

759
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:00,880
I'm gonna go study this, and
then that's when you go get socialized

760
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,519
with the with the rest of the
young adults of that means, right,

761
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,920
yeah, and people think like their
identities the fucking music they listen to or

762
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,119
the stupid shit they wear or whatever
it's not right then stuff they read.

763
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,599
Yeah, your identity is who you
would be if you woke up one day

764
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:17,719
and and like no one else was
around you gut stranding on a desert island,

765
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,599
Like what would you choose to do
with your time if you had you

766
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:27,000
know, totally fictional reality, But
if you had like the you know,

767
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:30,239
access to the resources, like whether
it was music or art or books or

768
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:36,400
whatever culture like that Twilight Zone episode. Yeah, but but work, then

769
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,400
you don't smash your glasses. You
get you go down the book room,

770
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,360
you come out, or the bank, well, you come out, Nuclear

771
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,079
Wars. Everyone's gone, but the
library is still there, you know,

772
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,639
Right, So you're posing this question
as like all of culture is still there,

773
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:54,880
but you're not influencing. You're not
or you're not influenced by people watching

774
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,119
you. You know, you're not
influence. You're not going to this this

775
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:02,079
this idea that we have to pose
for people via social media by putting shit

776
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:06,840
in our bio or pretending to be
someone else or taking selfies or whatever like

777
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,320
that. Who that's not who you
are. Who you are is you know,

778
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:15,559
what you do independent of conformity and
needing validation or any of that.

779
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:16,599
Like what would you know? What? I mean that kind of stuff,

780
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,039
like what would what art would you
make? What things would you read?

781
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,639
What interests you? What do you
go to bed and nights thinking about?

782
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:28,000
It's a good question to ask yourself, what do you actually think? That

783
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:31,519
is ident right? That's identity not
the music you listen to. I mean

784
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:35,360
maybe a little bit, I guess, But that shit changes over time too,

785
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,320
you know. It's what drives you. The way the eyes through which

786
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,559
you see the world are unique.
They're yours, you know. Yeah,

787
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,880
it's the question is what do I
think? Not who do I think I

788
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,960
am? Or who do I want
people to think? Exactly exactly? Is

789
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,280
this the Is that the golf course? Do you think? Isn't this the

790
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,840
golf course? You're on the other
side? No, with this ridiculously this

791
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,239
fence that comes like six feet out
over Yeah, there it is a I

792
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:07,199
see it. I'm trying to launch
this. See this bottle at the ah

793
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,519
Oh yeah, I think I got
it. For I think I got it.

794
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,559
I can see turf over there in
the moonlight. But there's fucking poison

795
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:21,119
ivy everywhere. Oh yeah, you
see some golfer driving around? See some

796
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,360
who is drinking non alcoholic? Who's
gonna say it's hilarious that it's like a

797
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,039
vandalism, but it's like a non
alcoholic beer. You know, we're still

798
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:35,280
keeping a true in our old age, but something's changed somethings. Don't middle

799
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,039
aged? Please please please, I
feel old. Maybe when you're done that

800
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:43,800
sweater, you'll feel really old.
What did you say, I need old

801
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:50,719
man complaining about his lottery numbers?
Nebrascal glasses? Yeah, like giant you

802
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,880
know, giant sick plastic aviators aviator
glasses, and it's like a flat cap,

803
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,400
you know, and just like complanning
of your lottery numbers and how the

804
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:07,159
coffee is cold. You got it? Yeah, I think these mics kind

805
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:08,719
of suck. Well it's fine.
Oh look I could have gotten it through

806
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:14,480
here too. There you go,
looks nicely. I still got one.

807
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,000
You got one? You want to
try and launch it? Yeah? There

808
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:25,199
you go. Oh that's that's good. That was good. They got in

809
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,400
there. Yeah, you got it
in there that landed on the green ah

810
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:44,519
anyway, no, yeah, mm
yeah, wow, wow, y fucking

811
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,719
so right about the yikes thing?
Yea, I know exactly who says?

812
00:54:49,880 --> 00:55:02,000
I know, we're not the same
god. What about that episcopalian uh priest?

813
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:05,880
He was cool. Yeah, the
church that they're doing. We're gonna

814
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,679
go see him tomorrow. Yeah,
I mean, I hope it's dense.

815
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,079
I hope they packed it dnce in
diverse with a bunch of different species.

816
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,039
It's kind of the cool thing since
just all it was all deciduous woodland here.

817
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:21,400
The only clearings were those made by
Native Americans. I guess that's like,

818
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,639
that's what you know. It's not
actually trying to go back to what

819
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,920
it was, you know, seven
hundred years ago. It's and because what

820
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,599
it was seven hundred years ago is
not the same as it was ten thousand

821
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:34,639
years ago. And it was fucking
tundra, you know, place to scene,

822
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:37,199
et cetera. I was just trying
to create, pollinate or habitat an

823
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:43,960
interesting ship, all these cool cynthio
trikam sympio trik cordifolium. That was a

824
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,039
fucking awesome one we got from birth
Sanga earth singa nursery. We're seeing that

825
00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:50,920
little box turtle. You've missed you
see that? Oh yeah, did you

826
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,199
see him? I said this a
little box. I couldn't find him.

827
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,960
Go he was eating. Oh I
walked a long way. I didn't see

828
00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:00,159
him. He was probably there.
I just didn't see him. And then

829
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:01,519
I was walking back and I saw
him and he was munching on a little

830
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:09,760
square derma like a little cuffs.
Magical as fuck. Oh yeah, he

831
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:15,639
was a cute little bastard. But
uh, yeah, I don't know what's

832
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,760
all he got. Oh yeah,
we got those other plants for the church

833
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,119
from Sam Drogi's b research. Yeah
that was super cool. Yeah, that

834
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,880
was fucking nice man. He gave
us a ton of ship, tons of

835
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,920
latest. Sam's another wizard. I
felt that was some fucking ron ship.

836
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:36,000
You didn't see his house, man, Holy shit, his house was incredible.

837
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:38,760
He's got he's got this rocket stove
he made. He built this fucking

838
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:44,039
house. It's like, oh,
it's a Dobey like clay Yeah. Yeah

839
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:45,360
man. And it was just like
you have to walk through this tunnel of

840
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:52,599
Helianthus tuberosis and sylpium portfoliot him to
get to his house, and it's just

841
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,800
He's like, it's just cool.
It's got a cool vibe. And it's

842
00:56:54,840 --> 00:57:00,039
got these mud walls, not mud, they're like you know, adobe wall,

843
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:04,719
so yeah, like like rounded,
like the like the fucking house and

844
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:08,880
Luke Skywalker's grand at an uncle's house. Yeah, Uncle Luke's house on dead

845
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,920
right. It's got a vibe to
it. Yeah. It was one of

846
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,800
those houses you go through You're like, man, I wish I could do

847
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,800
this. Yeah yeah, no I
could, but I just I also couldn't.

848
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,320
I'm also kind of like a d
all over the place. Got too

849
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,079
much shit on my plate. But
uh yeah, what a cool guy.

850
00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:30,079
Yeah he was. He was a
great vibe. But we got tons of

851
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:36,800
baptisia from him. I love that
he had that abandoned carnivorous plant bog and

852
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,480
a bathtub, meaning that like all
these like curR nervous plant people would just

853
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:43,559
give him stuff, right, and
they had a bog and an old steel

854
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:47,760
bathtub. Yeah, that guy was. That guy was. But we gave

855
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,039
us a ship ton of plants,
and so I hope they're still that.

856
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:52,679
We haven't seen him in a week. Hopefully they're. The plants are also

857
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,039
doing. Yeah, I bet they're
gonna get watered. It's it's like cool

858
00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,159
and moistier, So I bet I
don't think they dry it out or diet.

859
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,840
Everybody's going dormant for the season right
now anyway, so maybe they just

860
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,639
went dormant a little quicker. You're
just planting roots. But still it'll be

861
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:12,199
cool. It'll be really cool to
see, you know, you get people

862
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:15,239
to send us pictures of this stuff. When they gotta give a Rul's number,

863
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,719
Oh yeah, grab it. Yeah, it'd be cool to go chill

864
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,039
with them again. But it's been
nice. It was an odd location in

865
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:28,039
Maryland to pick the DC area,
but it was also I don't know,

866
00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:30,280
I'm glad. I'm gonna feel like
it especially they need to kill your lawn.

867
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,639
Shit to happen here more more still
than and it's popping off because all

868
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:37,880
this Chesapeake Bay conservation, right,
and they realize run off too. Yeah,

869
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:43,440
there's all this, there's all this
like government programs to prevent runoff now

870
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,840
because of Chesapeake Bay. It's how
fucked it is. People don't realize,

871
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,440
I mean, fifty fifty inches of
rainy year here, but you still get,

872
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:53,880
you know, a ship ton.
There's still a problem with the lawn.

873
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,400
It's not like you know, out
in the out West, it's like

874
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,000
you're wasting water to have a stupid
fucking lawn right here where you've got more

875
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:05,599
than enough water and it can still
grow, it's still it's still detrimental and

876
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:12,159
ecologically, you know, negative because
those roots don't go deep and it's just

877
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:15,199
like a parting line. There's you
know it just there's there's slopes, there's

878
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:19,519
creeks everywhere, totalating hills, and
the water hits it and then just runs

879
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:23,519
off. It's packed clay putneath there. Those roots of the shitty turf grass

880
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:27,039
don't go more than an inch or
too deep, as we've seen, and

881
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:30,880
ripping so many of them up and
now water hits the you know, goes

882
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:34,559
percolates through the roots, that hits
the clay pan and then just runs off.

883
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,639
And then it runs off with all
the nasty shit they're putting on the

884
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:40,760
grass to keep it alive. Yeah, not to mention like a bunch of

885
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:46,360
garbage and microplastics. Right, God, they've really fucked the landscape into a

886
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,320
coma here. I mean they're all
over the US, I guess, but

887
00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:53,599
I mean all over the world where
people tend to go. Depending Jesus Christ,

888
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:57,920
that fucking set books by another goddamn
deer. This is kind of like

889
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,119
the deer hangout right here. We're
back on a board walk. There's probably

890
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:07,280
so many ticks man, Oh my
god, billion, Yeah, billions of

891
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:15,280
ticks in that undergrowth needs a burn. Dorman seasons burn and then uh Brett's

892
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:21,719
Brett's yard was it was cool too. What was I gonna say, forget

893
01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:30,000
what it was gonna talk about there
but getting plants the good Father. But

894
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:32,719
that guy Brett's yard. Oh yeah, like you just bought this house.

895
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,360
He had all this ship that that
snow is here. That's another horticultural atrocity

896
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,639
that you see plant that here it's
a non native azalea, which is again

897
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:43,679
weird. You have a native one, that's amazing. And then there was

898
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:46,800
the Japanese barbary planted there and just
all this, you know, taggy horticultural

899
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,559
ship. What I liked about his
lawn though, was that it looked like

900
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:52,960
ship Like there was spots and you
could tell this dude did not give a

901
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,599
fuck about his lawn. It made
me happy to see was destroyed. Patchy

902
01:00:57,679 --> 01:01:00,960
looked terrible. Then you look two
houses down at the neighbors and it's just

903
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:06,039
glowing. It's glowing green like that. You know that ship is poison has

904
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:12,159
been putting some of his neighbors been
putting some nasty stuff. Right that green

905
01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:16,679
color comes to the cost, a
drastic environmental cost, and then it runs

906
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:22,760
off, runs down slope right into
the creek. All the fungicides and all

907
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,079
the different herbicide and passes side whatever
they put on there, all this shiit

908
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:34,599
amendments, all this nitrogen fertilizer,
and Ship told me they watching the little

909
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:37,320
like YouTube VIDs, I've done,
kill you a lawn. They start getting

910
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:43,760
ads for like long Care Maiden.
They're like lawns. There's been a creakle

911
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,400
in the algorithm, the advertising.
We've been stealing your data, not really

912
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,679
understanding with your interests are. Maybe
it's the the throws of Big Lawn trying

913
01:01:54,679 --> 01:02:00,760
to get people real back end.
They don't kill it to this person's interested

914
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,320
in turf grab Maybe there's maybe there's
some hope for them yet. Maybe we

915
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,199
can Oh, this is nice,
see that looking at that lights out,

916
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:15,360
walking in the dark with nothing but
moonlight. It's so nice, the crinkle

917
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:21,400
of the leaves, the autumnal vibes. Yeah, what in the ichabod crane?

918
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,000
Shit is gonna happen out here?
Any spooky October woods? Did we?

919
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:28,159
Did? We see some spooky stuff
a week we all go oh.

920
01:02:28,519 --> 01:02:31,440
When we were walking out of the
woods. The beat walking out of the

921
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,239
beach woods with those mushrooms where the
sun's going down, it was a much

922
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,199
more treacherous trail than this too,
was like muddy and slick, and that

923
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,840
elevation and stuff and the sun's going
down were separated in the woods. And

924
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,199
then all of a sudden, this
like church bell organ music starts playing.

925
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,079
And that's when I said, what
in the Ichabad crane is going goofy?

926
01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:54,639
Stuff's going on. You ordered some
spooky stuff. I feel like this is

927
01:02:54,760 --> 01:03:00,920
Midlowian cemetery or something Bachelor's growl,
you know, and there's some stuff going

928
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,440
on. You know, we're gonna
see the lady in white back here sitting

929
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,639
on a stump. You a bunch
of a bunch of teams and cloaks trying

930
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:10,480
to sacrifice a can or something.
You know. You know, so that's

931
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:15,280
something I bought to resell while I've
been out here. Actually is this amazing

932
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,159
eighties heavy trench coat with a hood
on it. It is the most goths

933
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,559
ship. Oh man, you can
sell that. Oh yeah, It's like

934
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:30,719
a velvet hood and like a heavy
wolf in Chicago going strong. Do you

935
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,880
see him? You see him doing
They're just you know, you just see

936
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,960
them. You see him in situ
in everyday life. They're just doing going.

937
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:40,320
You're getting their oil changed and like
waiting for the bus and wear a

938
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:45,280
bunch of like jewelry and ship and
leather black leather boots, you know,

939
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:47,000
just like uh, you know,
like a casual goth, you know,

940
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:51,239
like wear an eyeliner kind of thing. You know, guy wearing an eyeliner.

941
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,800
Maybe he's got a little dyet hair. You know, right, maybe

942
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,400
he's got some kind of band T
shirt. You know, oh yeah,

943
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:00,760
okay, at least going to his
jab right for you know, you'll see

944
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,360
a business casual goth, you know, all black, you know this casual.

945
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,239
Yeah, they got like a little
hearring and you know something like they

946
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,599
ever see like a festive guy.
They don't really get you ever see like

947
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:14,400
a happy like they're like Joe really
smiling, clicking, you know when they're

948
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,360
dancing. When they go out dancing. I don't know where the gods dance.

949
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:21,760
Take me to where the gods dance. They're like industrial warehouse clubs,

950
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,480
you know, next to cold storage
place, you know, open late on

951
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:30,159
the weekends. I wish that was
still a thing. It's not really.

952
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,760
I don't think I under you know, I probably just don't know. There's

953
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:40,280
probably underground dance parties. The wharehouse
got the industrial clubs, you know,

954
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,920
going on. We don't know.
We're going to pick up the n A

955
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:45,599
beers that we left here and then
we'll see you later. But you know,

956
01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:48,480
thanks for listening there, guy.
You know, yeah, we really

957
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:53,239
you know, it's nothing against you. We just thought we would bring it

958
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,079
up. You know, we were
on a subject that it was just a

959
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:59,000
lot of the stuff you were doing
that we had a problem. Yeah,

960
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,159
it's not you. It's just everything
you were doing, the choices you're making.

961
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,719
We're just there were just a little
goofy. It's just not you,

962
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,400
right, it's not And you know, with all due respect, with all

963
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,320
due respect, all due respect,
this is a multi faceted issue. There's

964
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,599
a lot of different stuff going on, you know, coming from different angles.

965
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,559
Fact, there's elements consideration, elements
beyond our control, like you know,

966
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:25,960
new stuff that's come to light,
and we're just trying to really compile

967
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:29,440
it all and figure it out.
You don't really uh, dissect it and

968
01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:31,559
digest it and take it apart,
you know, put it on the table,

969
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:38,599
just break it down to its basic
principles and then really just get down

970
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:43,159
the brass tacks about what it specifically
is and then how also how it functions

971
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,800
right, right, and then we're
just trying to explain it to you so

972
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,719
that you understand and then yeah,
that you get how we're thinking. And

973
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,079
you know, I'm glad, so
glad you joined us on this walking there's

974
01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:57,039
so much the guy, Well,
that's how we got for you too,