WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:06.639 Steve Rivera and Jagen Salez. They have their Eye on the Ball on Tucson 2 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:12.480 Sports Stage Jet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean I heard radio 3 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:15.839 whap, Hey, welcome back to Ie on the Ball here on Fox Sports 4 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:19.039 fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jacob's aust Now we have sid with 5 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:27.320 breaking news. All right, well did not play, Yeah I didn't play, 6 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:32.479 But okay, we'll start off for breaking news with football. Chuck secil 7 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:38.520 is being retained as a senior defensive assistant. Always go to keep a lumps 8 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:43.280 like that around, right, Yeah, you know, I think it's one 9 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:45.439 of the questions kind of people are asking, you know, what's happening to 10 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:51.399 you know, to Cecil and Ricky Hunley and who incidentally, Brandon has been 11 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:57.960 great for us this week. Helped us get Ta Foy, helped us get 12 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.520 Josh Miller tomorrow, helped us get Marquis Flowers, helped us get you know, 13 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:04.959 our some of our Super Bowl guests this week. And so Brandon's been 14 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.400 great and we appreciate the work he does, you know, anything that has 15 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.719 to do with the football alumni. So hopefully he gets his stick around. 16 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:15.200 But you know, you know, Chucky's it's more it's an analyst position. 17 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.040 It looks like they're they have a name for it, but he's basically analyzing 18 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:23.359 defenses to provide that information to the offense. So he kind of works for 19 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.680 the offense, but he's doing work on defense. So good good for him 20 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.680 that he gets his stick around and he wanted to be around for I mean, 21 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.920 he wants to be the family. Yeah, so we'll see, I 22 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:40.319 mean, good to keep that transition going. Big news from Bill Norton as 23 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:44.879 he announces his return. Yeah, there's a lot of sources have been saying 24 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:49.959 that, but he he announces, yeah, he Yeah, so some much 25 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:53.959 needed depth was in question whether or not he was going to come back, 26 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.480 so obviously a big piece that if you ask me, Steve, I think 27 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:04.200 he was as important as any buddy on that defense because he just plugged plugged 28 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.799 holes. Yeah. Uh. And it's been a long time since they've had 29 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.199 sort of what you would call, uh, a dominating guy you know, 30 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.400 in the middle like that. And you know it's because of him that Jacob 31 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:20.400 Monuo was so good, well partly because because of him. Yeah, but 32 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:25.680 big, big news obviously yesterday we had other transfers come in. We had 33 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.080 the Tray Smith the defensive end, so the defensive line is starting to shape 34 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:36.719 out a little bit. I thought it was also important to note that the 35 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:43.479 running back commit that we got from New Mexico actually visited Washington before uh decided 36 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:46.520 to come here. Oh I didn't see that. Yeah, wow, yeah, 37 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:51.680 good. Yeah, So it was Jason went away from Jed and Jason. 38 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:58.360 She explained it. She explained it as he took his visit as stealer 39 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:05.120 Jack healings. We're gonna have to get over that. I'm just stating a 40 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.159 fact. He stole some guys from Arizona. He's a Steeler. I'm not 41 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:14.000 whether I'm not I'm not saying I'm pissed or anything. I'm just saying he 42 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:16.240 stole some guys, and he stole one of the one of the guys that 43 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:23.439 we were counting on. Uh, you know with Jonah Coleman that you're gonna 44 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:30.439 teach you and don Delivery. Yeah. I just thought it was very interesting 45 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:36.560 to know because a lot of people are downplaying the commitments kind of because of 46 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.719 where they're from. But I mean, you have to realize that a lot 47 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:43.159 of these guys were probably contacted by bigger schools as well. Yeah, you 48 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:47.120 know, just because you're from a smaller school does not does not mean anything. 49 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.080 Well, again, as we said yesterday, you know, where did 50 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:53.639 Jacob coming come Ford? Where did Twner McLaughlin? Dope, they're they're good 51 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:59.199 players who've raised their game since you know, when they didn't get recruit Dorian 52 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:03.120 Singer? Right, you know, do you know he's a utah du did 53 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:13.560 we report? Yeah? But you remember nineteen eighty nine that I can real 54 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:15.639 I can reel off all the airs on AC scores from eight to two on. 55 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:20.319 Yes, but don't forget the butt. But I don't know what I 56 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:24.639 had for lunch yesterday. Yeah, I know it's important though, because I 57 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:28.360 mean an example that I think about is cam Ward He was at Incarnate Word 58 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.439 before were going to Washington State, now at Miami. So right, so 59 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.279 you know, guys, you know they play a little, they get good. 60 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:38.399 I mean, I've seen the clips on these on these two running backs, 61 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:41.600 and they look as good as you know. And they're big, they're 62 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.759 big, big, they're big dudes. They're fast. At the end of 63 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.480 the day, though, we won't know until we know, until we know, 64 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.519 And so why now just give him credit until we know yeah, and 65 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:55.319 what's it's what's the difficulty in that because our fans are a bunch of wear 66 00:04:55.399 --> 00:05:01.199 those you become my spokesman, fans are. But when it comes also fans 67 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.120 have to realize we just hired, you know, Arizona just hired a new 68 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:09.560 running back coach that that was one of the best running back coaches in the 69 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.160 country. So who says he can't develop you know, some of these guys 70 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.279 into more right and and again, I think I think, as you know, 71 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:20.800 they've been talking about what happens with the portal is would you rather have 72 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.639 two guys who've got a couple of years under their belt playing college football or 73 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.040 a guy coming right out of high school. You're gonna take the You're gonna 74 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.279 take the veteran. Plus, Arizona's got a guy that that that's that track 75 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:38.000 guy that's a freshman. He'll get to learn and go and write. So 76 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.240 you know, you don't if you don't need to, you don't have to 77 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.079 throw him in there in his first year. Although he sounds like he's pretty 78 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:46.240 good, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, you know, you just 79 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.560 need guys in the room. And and they were short some guys. They 80 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:53.160 went and got these two guys and go down for for Brent Brennan. Yeah, 81 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:57.079 I mean for any fans that are worried about this, I mean you 82 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.759 can't. You can't be excited about the higher and not excited about what how 83 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.240 they can develop players. Right if you're if you're buying into the coaching staff, 84 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:09.600 then you believe you know that they can they develop. Yeah. I 85 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.439 just consider the source of the people who did are complaining. I mean, 86 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:15.920 some people know, some people don't know. Just relax, I mean, 87 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.519 come to join the moment and let's see what happens sports. The one thing 88 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:23.199 about sports is you'll always find out. I mean, come on, they 89 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:27.560 lived on two Stars Scooby for years. What's the difference of these guys coming 90 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:31.079 in here and being two stars? Okay, nothing to see here. Let's 91 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:35.120 move on, moving on into five stars. Now some five stars and basketball 92 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:40.720 guys. We got Ben Mathurin is going to be participating in the Skills Challenge 93 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:46.040 with two of his Pacer teammates, and then we have Larry marking In partaking 94 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.720 in the three point contest. So so this is okay, this is with 95 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:53.279 me because I've said this all along, five years, whatever, six years, 96 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:58.000 Who would I rather have marketing or eighting? And everyone was hiding marketing. 97 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.399 Marketing was fantastic. He was fantastic. Here he was, He's been 98 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:05.720 fantastic in the NBA. He he was a multiple a multiple position player. 99 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:09.879 You can stretch it, you can come in And I've always thought that. 100 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.079 I always thought that, and I've always said, you know what I want 101 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:16.879 to say, Now, who's the guy that defended the marketing the best? 102 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:26.560 Because you never gave him the ball? Took Xavier to the lead, but 103 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.079 we've played the best defense for Xavier that day it was Alans of Trier. 104 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.360 I agree. I also thought it was interesting to note that m Hawks is 105 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:39.800 partaking in the Dunk Contest. In the Dunk Contest, you got a homie 106 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:44.279 in the dunk Contest. I want to say a very racial thing right now. 107 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:50.959 They can't jump, right you know you've seen the sequel to white Man 108 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.519 can't jump with Mexicans can't jump. Well, I think you can say that 109 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:57.680 because you're one. Because I am one, I get to say that. 110 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.959 I get to say that. But good for yeah, could be outside of 111 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.800 Louel Cinders Slash Kareem Abdul Jabar could be my favorite U C. L A. 112 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:13.120 Bro Ever well because because he was a homie and you look like a 113 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.680 homie. He looked like I mean, he looked like a guy that you 114 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.439 go driving down the street in East l at right the beach, he's right 115 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.279 and that and he's right there. Yeah, and the dude's the only thing 116 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.199 different about him from the other homies. He was a He was taller than 117 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:33.360 all of them tall, and he was a nonchalant player. He play and 118 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.600 then he stuff got fifteen on you next thing. Yeah, yeah, he 119 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:41.200 was. He was really really good. Yeah, really good in a nondescript 120 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:43.759 way, right, and his mustache right, and he just played. He 121 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.440 gave I mean he gave a Zona fits every every time. Yeah, he 122 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:52.240 did absolutely did good for him. Moving into baseball news airs on a Baseball 123 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.840 News Mason White and Dawson Netzer p season All PAC twelve, both of those 124 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:01.480 looking to be huge, like a freshman is the uh he's the shortstop, 125 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:05.799 right, Yeah, I think he's a freshman and he's already all packed preseason 126 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:11.399 off packed him and Dawson. We didn't say this yesterday. Did they pick 127 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.639 the finish eighth. I think in the lord bottom of the package we had 128 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.840 we had chip chip on. We didn't talk about that because we didn't didn't 129 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.240 they didn't know by that time. So there's another thing that you can put 130 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:28.600 another chip on their shoulder to come, no pun intended. Yeah, all 131 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:35.679 right. Cool softball news today Condria Classic four to six. There's a there's 132 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:41.360 another game at six playing Utah Tech and Northern Colorado. So I thought they're 133 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.799 happy to move that schedule around because because the weather the rain. Yeah, 134 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:50.960 I think moving some games around and playing at you know some stuff Arizona's games, 135 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.519 whatever is on the schedule that it's staying like that. But the other 136 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.679 games looked like they moved him around a little bit, you know, with 137 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.600 all the weather and stuff. It's cold out there. S you want to 138 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.519 be playing softball or baseball right now? Hell no, I don't want to 139 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:09.840 be in the pocket. But it's not come on, it's not that Contractly 140 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:13.360 I'll beg to be in this place. It's not the basketball better and you'd 141 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:18.879 rather be playing basketball under the government. Yeah, okay. Moving into college 142 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:24.279 football news, the Michigan ad will now be the chairman for the College Football 143 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.519 Playoff Oh okay, that's interesting. So yeah, big movement there, well, 144 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.840 off directors moving places well, and it's a new era for the for 145 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.080 the playoff, right, twelve teams coming up this year. I'm excited about 146 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.639 this. I think, you know, there's so many opinions about you know, 147 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.000 it's going to make the regular season irrelevant and all that kind of stuff. 148 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.679 Well, it'll make it irrelevant. You know, if you're Georgia, 149 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.759 you don't have to finish undefeated to get in the playoff. What I like 150 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.960 is that it opens the door for teams like you know, Arizona in Utah, 151 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.759 some of these teams that all they want is a shot, right. 152 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.320 I know that if I'm on the field with Florida, if a Zone's playing 153 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.120 for Georgia, you expect azone to get their ass kicked. But you know 154 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:11.519 what, on that one day of that one day, maybe just maybe, 155 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:16.480 you know, like Arizona Kansas in the ninety seven NCAA tournament, going into 156 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.600 that game, who thought Arizona's gonna win that game? And they did? 157 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.720 You know, you get a shot. Just because you get a shot, 158 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.639 you have a shot, yep, right, you you might win that game 159 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:28.879 that you need to win. And all of a sudden, now you're playing 160 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.679 for a national championship. So I'm I'm loving that. Yeah, And all 161 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.120 these people who say, you know, well, you know, now you 162 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.600 know the urgency for an Alabama or a Georgia or Michigan, what is at 163 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.639 because they know they can lose the game, maybe even two, and still 164 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.240 get in the playoffs. I don't care. Yeah. The good thing is 165 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.639 each conference, it's gonna mean more for that conference, right, every every 166 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:58.000 conference is gonna have a conference champion that has a chance to represent you know, 167 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:00.399 see when that's it that you know? Going back, that's the thing 168 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:05.080 I always hated about what we had where there were four spots and I'm like, 169 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.919 and then teams who didn't even win their league, but the teams that 170 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:13.519 didn't even win their league were getting in the playoff over teams that did and 171 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.559 they they used to that used to that pissed me off. I hate that. 172 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.000 So now win your conference championship, you get into the playoffs. Yeah, 173 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.360 moving into other stuff. You got Colorado hiring the Bengals secondary coach, 174 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.240 Big Big twelve football news there, Okay, Colorado, all right, move 175 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:35.440 We'll see how it plays out. Obviously, they've been using the portal Ton. 176 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.480 I think when it comes to the new schools of the Big Twelve, 177 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.440 you know, they're all gonna be mixed among the top. You know, 178 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.799 we don't know exactly how it's gonna finish, but I think a lot of 179 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.440 those schools Utah as well. It'll be interesting to see how it all shapes 180 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.600 out first season. Well, certainly for this first football season, Steve. 181 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.320 I think that you know, Arizona and Utah coming in as two teams that 182 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.919 people feel that you know, you're gonna have to contend with, sure in 183 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.559 the Big Twelve. Sure, and then obviously Arizona for basketball. You know 184 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.080 it'll be you know, up there at the top of the league right away. 185 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:07.639 Right, No, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I just 186 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:13.559 hope that the Arizona doesn't poo poo right away. They play Kansas State right 187 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.759 away. It's not it's not a conference, it's not a conference game, 188 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.159 but you want to kind of show who you are right in the league. 189 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.639 Yea, because Kent State's one of the better teams in the league. So 190 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.240 even though it's not going to count in the conference, it's going to tell 191 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.120 you something about where Arizona sits. It's a third game. Yeah yeah. 192 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:35.720 They open with New Mexico and then NAU and then we'll get to Kansas Unions 193 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.919 again next week. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The last news 194 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:41.120 I had here, I don't know if you guys saw, but the forty 195 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:46.480 nine ers were woken up early this morning by their hotel's fire alarm if somebody 196 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.720 did that on purpose. So a lot of the players, yeah, a 197 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.399 lot of the players have been playing about the field, the conditions, and 198 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.519 then now the hotel. Where were they staying. They were staying, I 199 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.200 think they said thirty minutes, about thirty minutes away from all. Yeah, 200 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.240 the noise. But it is very interesting because earlier in the week they were 201 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:11.399 dealing with the field that was super soaked apparently felt like sponge. So we'll 202 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:15.679 see when the game. 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Hey, welcome back to my I on the Ball 277 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.839 here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jacob Sauce. Now 278 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:33.359 with us in studio is doctor Kevin Leeman, well renowned author, therapist, 279 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:40.680 psychologist, all that right and sports fan and that guy, that guy Buffalo 280 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.079 Bill fan So I know you're here to talk about sports, but I'm more 281 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.079 concerned about having a good sex life by Friday. For you, sex life 282 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.000 by Friday. You know, I got hung up on Friday. I did 283 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:52.759 a whole bunch of books. Have a New Kid by Friday. That's one 284 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:55.839 of your books. Yeah, a new six life by Friday. One of 285 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.200 my favorites was have a New husband by Friday. Oh never mind. Never 286 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.440 teach women how to talk to us guys, because us guys women don't realize 287 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.279 it. We hate their questions and we hate the y words, and they 288 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.200 love questions. So I had fun with that. We're hard to deal with. 289 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.839 How can I find that one that's hard to deal with? Well, 290 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.319 you're here to talk about a lot of different things. We'll get to sports, 291 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:22.359 right, go ahead, Jay, Well, you know we'll get to 292 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.240 the serious stuff first, and then we'll bring up your Buffalo bills because we 293 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:27.200 were talking about them a little bit. But you know, obviously with so 294 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:32.839 much going on. We had Rachel Webb on from the U of A a 295 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:37.519 few weeks ago and just talking about how much athletes today are dealing with, 296 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.079 and not just the college athlete. We're talking to high school kids now who 297 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:47.599 are getting you know, signing contracts and endorsements and things like that. I 298 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:49.920 mean with all this, it's already that was already on their plate. I 299 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:55.039 mean, how the heck are they dealing with this stuff? It was crazy 300 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:57.720 to begin with, right, Okay, And they're looking at seventh graders, 301 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:03.640 eighth graders. Uh, money is being thrown around. I mean you three 302 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:08.079 people in this room actually four, excuse me? Uh no, that things 303 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.599 have to change. We can't sustain what's going on right right? And Jay 304 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:17.400 asks this of the kids, what about the parents who are kind of running 305 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.559 the show. Yeah, and everybody. I mean some of these kids, 306 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:26.440 let's face it, come from zips, don't have money. Somebody throws money 307 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:29.759 at him. Uh, they're going to run after that money like a raccoon 308 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:34.720 with chase a shiny object. So a lot's going to happen. The presidency 309 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:40.799 of universities and maybe our legislatures, our government is going to have to be 310 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:45.640 involved because it can't work the way it is and have a great college football 311 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.759 season. If you want to just have another pro football, let's call it 312 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.480 pro football and do away with the university tag. Right. Have you? 313 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:56.720 Have you noticed and talking to others, and you know, you're in your 314 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:03.519 own experience and serve an uptick in how much and when we see it all 315 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.599 the time, right, how much mental health has become a part of the 316 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.599 picture of these days of what they're dealing with. And you know, we 317 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:14.319 were seeing athletes who are you know, just in severe you're having severe mental 318 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:18.000 health problems and there's that as well. But kids today view reward is the 319 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.960 right. Okay. You know, I'm old enough to remember when kids actually 320 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:27.720 used to obey their parents, and now parents obey their kids. The whole 321 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:33.079 paradigm has flipped very much true. And so kids today, most kids today 322 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.640 in Tucson, Arizona, most kids are reared in such a way as they 323 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:41.160 really think they are the center of the universe. You talk about inflated importance, 324 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:48.599 right, and now you're an athlete. Can it be reflipped? Well, 325 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.359 it's going to have to be reflipped, to use your term, Steve, 326 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.880 sooner or later, because that paradigm doesn't work either. You have rebellion 327 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:00.599 kids. You know, we have eight schools. One of the things I 328 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.799 pride myself on it Leaman Academy of Excellent Schools, is we put authority in 329 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.559 the classroom teacher's hands. You don't talk back to a teacher at Leaman Academy. 330 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:11.279 If you do, you're gonna know it and your parents gonna know it. 331 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:18.480 And I think adults sometimes lose fact, the fact that kids really want 332 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.000 to please us. Your children want to please, they do. Let them 333 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:26.279 please, they do, but without accountability and without guidelines. And see that's 334 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.079 what we're missing today. There's no guidelines. The rails are off and we're 335 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:36.319 just running down, running downhill, throwing money here and there. And of 336 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:38.039 course I'm a U of A Red and Blue guy. They gave me the 337 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:42.400 Alumni Achievement Award, which I'll tell you is the highest award they can give 338 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.839 to one of their own. I love the U of A. And I 339 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:48.519 hear these fans dog in our football team. I got news for you, 340 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:52.759 fans. We're going to have a football team next year. Don't tell me 341 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.359 what left. Let's talk about what we got. Here's back and I haven't 342 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:59.920 mote. I met coach Brennan. I sent them a copy of my leadership 343 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.519 book with a little information about our schools. For those coaches who are bringing 344 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.240 young kids down here and say, hey, we got some pretty good schools. 345 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:08.079 You ought to look at them, and they're free, you know. 346 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:14.720 So I'm red and blue through and through, and I think we're gonna be 347 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:18.200 okay. And I think actually the Big twelve fits is pretty good. I 348 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.720 do too. Yeah, did you see anything about the press conference with Kendrea 349 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.880 yesterday? No? Well, you know, you know his situation. He's 350 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:32.920 kind of intering with. Yeah, I'm sure that the situation with you financially 351 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.119 is not a surprise to you, given because every school is going through it. 352 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.559 Well, some of us have inside information, and I'm just saying, 353 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.240 I mean, I think they had a financial mess there, and uh, 354 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:52.000 you know Dave Heikey, who's a pretty straight shooter, pretty good guy. 355 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.920 I could make some prognostications here. What's going to happen. I think they're 356 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.839 going to do a little cleaning house yet still, and I think our president 357 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.920 Robinson is going to be the bad guy. And whether he remains on the 358 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:11.039 scene or not, it's anybody's guests. But there's going to be some change 359 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.759 coming. I think. Interesting. Yeah, that's not that's not a shocker. 360 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.079 But something has to happen, right, Yeah, to a degree we 361 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.160 don't know. Yeah, well maybe you do. But we got a young 362 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.720 football coach and he said, told me, disciple, Dick told me, 363 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:29.319 you know him, well, I mean he was. There wasn't many people 364 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.440 like Dick in the world, and Dick always had a great event. He 365 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:41.200 invited the players to bring their favorite professor to his house for a catered dinner. 366 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.400 He lived right across from university. He always invited my wife and I 367 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.200 my wife's saying it and I to that dinner every year. And one day 368 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.559 I asked him, I said, coach, it don't take this wrong, 369 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.880 but why do you why do you invite me to this? He said, 370 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.759 Kevin, you're the kind of guy I went around my and Dick didn't care 371 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:04.880 about a lot of things that maybe a lot of coaches cared about, but 372 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:10.359 he cared about his kids and that came through and he was a player's coach. 373 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.640 So well, let me ask you. You talk about how there's not 374 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.640 a lot of those guys around you know, I mean, what it takes 375 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:21.640 to be a coach now anymore in any sport, in college athlete, even 376 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:25.319 high school. You got to your father, right, we're seeing the high 377 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:27.960 school. You know, a couple of high school football coaches successful coaches coming 378 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.640 off great years, one coming off an undefeated state championship, and they're they're 379 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:37.559 leaving the business. You know, how do we get that back where it 380 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.799 is? It's more enjoyable, more enjoyable and less work and anxiety than it's 381 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.920 become. Well, you're a smart guy, Jay. Let me ask you 382 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.079 a question. Is authority a good word or a bad word? It depends 383 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:52.480 who's it is a bad word. Yeah, and you see the bumper sticker 384 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:57.440 question authority. Right, I'm here to tell you what makes Lehman Academy schools 385 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:02.599 good as we put authority in the class from teachers, the coach, whether 386 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:04.720 he's junior, high, high school, college, whatever, he is the 387 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:10.400 authority. Well, we got coaches now and even at the pro level who 388 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.160 cowed out to players, and so that can't work for it. Well, 389 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.480 I talked to the coaches all the time. How are you being jet fish 390 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.200 or ex guy? Now Brennan, who one of the players is making X 391 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.079 amount of money? And then you know the players saying how with you? 392 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.680 I know what I'm doing. Yeah, you can't tell me what to do. 393 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.400 Yeah, that's exactly. And it happens all over. I've got a 394 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.720 couple of close friends or NFL coaches, and we still talk. One of 395 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.480 them is a former head coach and he just shakes his head. I said, 396 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:37.759 hey, is Ambabman knocking on your door? He said, Kevin, 397 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.119 I served my time. I'm out. I'm enjoying my kids and my grandchildren. 398 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:47.000 We talked about that with Candrea Lopez Rubio blah blah blah. They left 399 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:51.039 at the right time and they're happy with it. I mean to this day. 400 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.680 Yesterday Mick Andrea held a press conference and he still talked about how he 401 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:59.119 left at the right time, right before all this stuff was getting started. 402 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.279 Now he's sort of back in it as the as the interim ay D, 403 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.599 and he may be there for a little while, but you know, he's 404 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.559 talked about how I really didn't want to be a coach anymore in this environment. 405 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.039 Yeah, you got the parents snappinacha, you got kids who are rebellious. 406 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.839 They think they're all everything right. Uh, it's it's a quagmire. 407 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.559 But yeah, well you got parents feeling like, Okay, my kids at 408 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.000 the u A. He's making this money, he's obviously, you know, 409 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:26.359 because he's making this money here, he's obviously good enough to make money at 410 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.160 the next level, and you're screwing up his career because you're not throwing them 411 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.759 the ball enough, you're not playing it. Of course, that's not always 412 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.440 true, right, it's not Yeah, most of the time it's not true. 413 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.039 And most of the time it's not true. We saw guys like Scooby 414 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:42.839 Wright, who was a tremendous college athlete, but he was You know what 415 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:48.559 about the mental health of these coaches and with all the thing and the pressures 416 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.440 that come with that, and and then the additional stuff they have to I 417 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.000 mean it was already, uh, you know, eighty hour a week job, 418 00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:57.559 and now you've put more stuff on top of that. Where does that 419 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.319 fit? Yeah, I'll tell you a funny story. You remember Bobby April. 420 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.000 Bobby April was here as an assistant coach, and Bobby and I are 421 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:07.519 still friends. We talk on the phone probably every other week at least. 422 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.720 And I'll never forget when he was coaching and I asked her, I said, 423 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:15.880 Bobby, how is Christmas? He said, Doc, it was an 424 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.519 hour and a half. And I'll never forget that because it was such an 425 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.839 opjuice off the wall answer, but it was true. It was. Christmas 426 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.480 was an hour and a half. Yeah, so these guys, they're all 427 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.839 in. I mean, Jim Young got blessed. Jim Young the only child, 428 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.119 by the way, what a great coach. But you know, Jim 429 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.359 used to sleep down at yeah, you know, at the you I mean, 430 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.960 and so did Dictman in all that. So that's twenty four to seven. 431 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:42.799 I don't know how those guys do it. They are in their key 432 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:45.440 believing. So let me let me ask you. We're gonna have a lot 433 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.440 to ask you. I know you watch games differently because you I know, 434 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.039 fifteen years ago you were on the radio, were talking about the basketball team 435 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.920 and some of their issues. Type A, guys, alpha male, what 436 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.839 about this basketball team? What do you see? Well? That national championship 437 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.759 by the team was a bunch of only children and firstborn children, which is 438 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.440 a whole another story. But this basketball team is fun to watch. I 439 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:14.599 love Tommy. I love Tommy's demeanor. Number one, uh Boswell, I 440 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.839 think is the most talented player on the court period. Okay, in terms 441 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.359 of long term right now, he's going his mojo is out in left field 442 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.599 someplace. This the young guys he's brought in. Oh my goodness, it's 443 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:33.960 blake and on his name. Now we've got Crevis Lewis, Lewis j Lewis, 444 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.680 and then Jane Bradley. Can that kid play defense? He can? 445 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.559 Can Bradley get in somebody's face? I mean, I'm seeing some things that 446 00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:42.680 are really gonna help us out. Now, you guys, I know you 447 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.880 think we might split on this tonight and Saturday. But my guess is this 448 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:55.119 team has the determination. They might squeak out a sweep. But if they 449 00:30:55.200 --> 00:31:02.160 do, uh, that might get uh a little point guard back in South. 450 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:03.319 He's just not a synk right now. Well, well, clearly this 451 00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:08.680 team, when you've got their attention right and they're then they're at their best. 452 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:14.559 You know they're gonna you know, I mean they they're they're good enough 453 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.000 to beat you every time no matter where you play them. The question is 454 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.960 do they always have your attention? Well? And see, that's that's the 455 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.319 special ingredient that every coach you know goes to bed and looks at that crack 456 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.359 on the wall at night and can't get to sleep. He said, I 457 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.119 don't understand how come this kid doesn't do this or that. But you get 458 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:38.160 the ball in low to ballow he can he can bang those little layups pretty 459 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.319 good, and he takes some space, and they got kid grievous who comes 460 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.480 in relief. They have the makings. We're only as good as our guards 461 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.240 are going to play. But these young guys have started to really impress me. 462 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.759 Well, because you said Boswell was the better of the of the group, 463 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.839 you can kind of explain why they're kind of inconsistent right now. So 464 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.839 what gives you that impression that he's that guy? Oh, he reminds me 465 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:06.039 of what Mohammad Ali used to say. He floats like a butterflies, things 466 00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.519 like a bee. That kid's got talent. He is smooth and we saw 467 00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:13.039 that early. Yeah, but he'll come I think he'll come back. I 468 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.480 think he's a real player. He's young. Remember he came here as a 469 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.880 seventeen year old kid. So let's get let's cut him some slat. So 470 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.160 let me give you this. Though he's seventeen eighteen now, he's got a 471 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.519 lot of games behind him. Though he's seasons, he's seasoned by now you 472 00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:32.319 just heard a word from mister basketball. This guy understands the game. He 473 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.759 really does. He's an x old guy. Well look at him. He's 474 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.240 been doing this a lot by the way, Jay, I want you to 475 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:44.559 point out. When Jay has a guest, he asked questions about feelings, 476 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:50.480 what was it like to walk out on that field, and when you first 477 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.839 discovered that, yeah, you were in a super Bowl, or that he's 478 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.119 got great you're a great combination. You're the excellent old guy. So you're 479 00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.359 picking me apart right now? Said, Hey, what do you think of 480 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.200 this? You know he's had games behind him. You sound like an old 481 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:07.279 basketball Well, okay, get in the game, because get in the game. 482 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:09.640 Hey, we're about not do you want to stick around for another segment? 483 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.240 You on your way to somewhere. I could have my wife dumped me 484 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.000 for dinner tonight. She's getting her hair done. And one of the things 485 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.359 you know about women is their shoes and their hair will never mess with you. 486 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.759 What I like to get into because we're about to run out of time 487 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.440 for the second. I love to get into the Super Bowl, right And 488 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:29.839 what these guys go through to go play in that game. You've been to 489 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.599 a few, haven't you? They watched them? I thought you no Buffalo 490 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.200 game. No, no, you start to cry now, I'm sorry, 491 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.119 I'll tell you this. I did. I did speak to the Bills team, 492 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.079 which was really fun for me back when Kelly was the quarterback. You 493 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:50.160 I got them all, so you're the reason I'm the loser. But he's 494 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.640 gonna leave is what he's gonna do. And I'm not talking his feelings. 495 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.960 I hang around with you, Okay, We'll love to just okay, we'll 496 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.559 love to have you hang around. So we'll we're gonna take our our last 497 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.960 break and we'll pick your brain some more. But I'd really love to get 498 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.039 into the mental aspect of being in a super Bowl when it's what these guys 499 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.800 have been shooting for, some of them their entire lives, right all right, 500 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:14.880 So we'll be right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, 501 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.519 you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back 502 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.400 at the Ludolsen era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot. It 503 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.440 was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches, 504 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.800 and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, 505 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.400 competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty 506 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:35.760 five years as Arizona's beloved coach, Lessons from Lout is an insight to how 507 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.559 he built the program into a national powerhouse. What one email me at Steve 508 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:45.480 dot RIVERA ninety five at gmail dot com. Hi, this is formal while 509 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.800 get Leman Huntley with Arizona Health, imagine how home GM can change your health, 510 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.599 your comfort, and your time. Arizona Health is everything you need to 511 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.880 transform your personal space and your life. 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This is I on the ball on Fox Sports fourteenth differ. Hey, 544 00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.000 welcome back tojoining the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. 545 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.800 He's Jake in with us today. Doctor Kevin Lehman. I just want 546 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.880 to make something real clear. Are we taking your insurance or are you taking 547 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.480 ours? Because are you on our coucher? We are in yours. I 548 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.440 don't know if I could afford the coping. No, this is this is 549 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:49.480 a freebie. I retired from that, but we do appreciate that. Let 550 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:53.000 me let me mention Kevin brought in his book Have a New Kid by Friday, 551 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.400 bestseller, New York Times bestseller, seven hundred thousand copies sold. It 552 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.920 says on the cover, brought one for us to give away. So what 553 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:06.559 we'll tell you is if you go to either our Facebook page or our our 554 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.920 Twitter feed, the email address there, it's my emailer. I heard email 555 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:15.639 address Javier Gonzalez at iHeartMedia dot com. First one to send us an email 556 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.000 with your name and address and we'll send this book out to you. So 557 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.960 there, you'll appreciate doing that. But I you know, my wife has 558 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:28.119 read this book. I've read pieces of it, but it's it's it's a 559 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:32.079 tremendous thing that you know, we've we've and we've recommended to Let's just say 560 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:36.360 a few of our friends who we've thought you need a New Kid by Friday. 561 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.400 Jay, we've seen the enemy and they are small, yeah, and 562 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.639 they're unionized, and they have a game plan. And I tell parents, 563 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.719 you better get a game planner. They're going to bury it, Johnny. 564 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:54.239 So anyways, Brittany, send have you chosen to go to bed, so 565 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.400 send send us music down. I'm trying to do your homework, So send 566 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:00.840 us an email. Well, first one in, well, we'll send you 567 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.119 the blak. So we appreciate it. So thanks for sticking around, Kevin. 568 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.480 We appreciate it. I want to get to this topic of the Super 569 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:12.000 Bowl, right. I mean, let's say you're you know you're football. 570 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.559 You started playing football at six years old. You probably started thinking about the 571 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.559 Super Bowl at six years old. Right now you're there and you've heard pro 572 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.960 say, you know, I've dumped to this moment. I was a little 573 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.760 boy and all of a sudden you're there. It's the shock and awe of 574 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.719 it, right, you know, plus the dollars that have come your way 575 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.599 of just being in that Super Bowl, let alone winning it. Right, 576 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:39.079 But you know, it gets down to athletes or athletes, and once all 577 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:45.480 the the flares and the music and everything sort of settles down and the ball 578 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.760 goes in the air, it probably takes a little bit for people to sort 579 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.599 of fixate and get back into hey, this football, and it gets back 580 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.320 to doing your job and doing your job well. But the relationships. So 581 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.840 you talk to any athlete who strapped it up and played, and they say, 582 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.880 what do you miss the most? You miss the of the guys. 583 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.559 And so it still is a pretty simple game. It's all about execution here, 584 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.920 coaches say, that's true. We all know what we should do. 585 00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.800 It's a matter of get out there and doing it. What makes for the 586 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:21.519 best coach You've seen some coaches here? Is it a communicator, is it 587 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:25.360 a teacher? What is it? I think it's that combination. Lot Lout 588 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:30.400 was absolutely the best. I'll never forget watching him in practice move a player 589 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:36.239 four inches. Loot had the ability and many coaches have his ability to look 590 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:40.079 at that court and know where everybody should be. But the minute changes and 591 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.880 his demands. I don't know have you ever heard this story or not, 592 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.880 but an NBA player who ended up playing in the NBA came, we recruited 593 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.480 him. He came in, and he came in to meet coach Oh with 594 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.480 headphones on. Guess where he was Ninety minutes later, felt the door back. 595 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.400 So you have to have expectations. And one of the things I've learned 596 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.400 as is a psychologists with kids, with families, with athletes, people live 597 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.800 up the expectations you give them. As a parent, you've got to give 598 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:14.639 your kids positive expectations, and when they screw up, you got to forgive 599 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.880 them and love them. Well, let's tie this a little bit to the 600 00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:21.119 super Bowl then, So you know, Steve said, you know what makes 601 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:22.920 the best coach? Well, what makes a Super Bowl coach? You know, 602 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.599 and I'm talking about it successful because the coaches get in and then they 603 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.559 have a game, or they lose and they never come back. You got 604 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:32.639 a guy like Belichick, you got Andy Reid, You've got these guys. 605 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.800 Is there a common denominator to those guys that you can pick up on? 606 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:42.920 Well, I remember one of our Arizona players told us about a guy named 607 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.800 Lovey Smith. He says he was the most disorganized coach he ever. So 608 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.599 you can sense that. You can see that. Yeah, and you probably 609 00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.079 know who I'm talking about, but I won't mention his name. But you 610 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.679 know, I think a coach has to be highly organized, just like a 611 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.880 kindergarten teacher has to be orton, right. You know, the kindergartener first 612 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.840 grade teacher walks to the back of the room because they forgot something. You're 613 00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.199 talking about six year old, five year old kids. You just lost them. 614 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.280 So organization is a plus, But it's that vision. It's that ability 615 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.000 to communicate and tell the kids the truth and when you tell the kids the 616 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.400 truth. You know, we give them vitam an e I call it. 617 00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.719 That's encouragement. But there's also vitamin N, which is no. And that's 618 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:28.800 what's missing in teams, in sports and homes. I was just going to 619 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.440 say that no doesn't fly anymore, or people doesn't stuff that it doesn't fly. 620 00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:36.239 People don't use that word enough anymore. No, they don't, but 621 00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.199 it's necessary. It's what gives you the balance. If you're permissive, they're 622 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.199 going to run over you. If you're too authority very much. We all 623 00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.559 grew up an authoritarian very much. So you probably didn't talk back to your 624 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.760 father. Oh no, no, you got the look or you got we're 625 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.559 talking about that. We're talking about that. I got the look, and 626 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.199 he's got the looking more. My father would say, hey, eight o'clock 627 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.840 and he'd point, you should have been a German, short hair, you 628 00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.599 know that go to bed. And if you didn't move, he'd say, 629 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.239 hey, you want to go to bed under your own own power. And 630 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.039 then when you give the no, you're a tough you're you're not treating me 631 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:14.760 right. You know, they play that the hill society comes around that old 632 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.760 port little whatever you know, look at our legal system. I mean, 633 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.679 you need a rap sheet long as the Nile River before anything happens to you. 634 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:27.840 We live in Permissiveville, but that doesn't work. It either being authoritarian 635 00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.719 or permissive either extreme both produce the same thing, which is rebellion. Can't 636 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:37.599 have rebellion and be a winning anything exactly. You think about a guy like 637 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.599 Nick Saban, for instance, all right, you hid some success around, 638 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.440 went to the NFL and it didn't work at all. It comes back to 639 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.400 Telabama and becomes arguably the greatest coach in the history of college football. He 640 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:54.519 dumped some of his coaching staff, you know, he What does a guy 641 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:59.199 like that have that the other coaches didn't? And how did he all of 642 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.000 a sudden get it? I'll tell you the truth. I wish you could 643 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:05.239 share that secret with me, because he's one of the guys that I thought, 644 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:07.639 you know, how can you be? He's pretty tough, right, 645 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.719 he certainly has high expectations, But I don't know if he was the nicest 646 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:15.239 guy in the world. He did, he doesn't appear to have been. 647 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.719 No, So how he was able to get it out of those players and 648 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.960 recruit obviously had people who could recruit. Well, I see that. I 649 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.480 saw that Lout. I saw that lout. Lut had this regal and towering 650 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.800 presidence right respect you walk in the room, you knew he was in the 651 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.400 room. And then then from the books that I've done and all that from 652 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.360 the players, you didn't want to disappoint Loot. So what do you do? 653 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.119 You work your ass off, you run through walls, and if you 654 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.920 didn't, he noticed it, and guess what happened. You're you're not playing, 655 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:51.199 and Loot would I'm not breaking any confidences here. Loot would send me 656 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.320 Player two once in a while. Yeah, they needed a little outside help, 657 00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:59.800 you know. But he was always great to follow up. He was 658 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.599 always about good about appreciating. I did it gradus. But there would always 659 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.719 be a note. I think I still have every note Lu'd ever sent me, 660 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.599 pure gentleman, wonderful. It is a handwritten note, right now, 661 00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.239 Oh yeah, handwritten note. And just the fact that he knew to do 662 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:15.480 that. Oh yeah, right, we'll tell you that. Okay, this 663 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.719 is a guy who won cares about his job two, cares about his players. 664 00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.360 So because of that, he's going to be successful. Yeah, but 665 00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.280 let me tell you something. He wasn't the one doing it. It was 666 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:31.719 his wife, Bobby. Okay, Bobby. Where Bobby laid the foundation of 667 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.400 the whole the family. Yeah. In fact, I spoke up in North 668 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.719 Dakota this year twice and I went through. I found out where Mayville was, 669 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:44.119 because I remember that's where Luke grew up. I drove to the town 670 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:49.760 Jay hid Steve with my little phone taking a video. You talk about a 671 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.280 town with nothing in it, Yeah, there was nothing there, but that's 672 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:57.679 where Luke came from. So he brought some of those hard work family values. 673 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.760 You know. Cooperation was part of what he was all about. And 674 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:05.159 boy, what a coach. Yeah, no he had he didn't do it 675 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.079 because he just didn't do it. It was to Bobby's. It was the 676 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.960 Roses, it was the doctor. In one of my books, I quoted 677 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.719 John Wooden, who won what ten titles. He never told his team to 678 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.920 go out and win. He told them go out and play the game of 679 00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.320 basketball the way it needs to be played. So I would tell anybody listening 680 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.199 to you, no matter what you're doing in life, do what you're supposed 681 00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.039 to do the way it should be right. And you know they pride in 682 00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.719 what you do right. We're talking to doctor Kevin Lema here in the studio 683 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.559 with us, a longtime friend for all of us. And uh, obviously 684 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.639 somebody's got a love for sports. Uh. You have the Lehman Academy of 685 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:43.320 Excellence. How many of those are they say? There's eight? Yea, 686 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.960 we were taking another one. We're finishing one another one in Colorado right now, 687 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:51.440 and they rock and roll. We're very proud of our school. I 688 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.880 mean, you were in Tucson four and two. We have one out in 689 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:59.039 Marana, one in uh Ora Valley, one midtown, and one east side 690 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.760 of Houton. And so along those, I'm skip something real quick. So 691 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.800 I was looking looking at your books. I've read a few of them. 692 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.320 The Birth Order Book I've read a long time ago and loved it obviously, 693 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:14.599 But why your best is good enough? That kind of misses a lot of 694 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:16.760 people. Now, just do what you can and be the best at what 695 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:22.119 you can do. Yeah, And that book came as an afterthought of the 696 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:28.440 Birth Order Book, where a lot of talented people grow up with critical eyed 697 00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:34.639 parents and they don't end up but they should be born. Yeah, And 698 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.920 what really happens in the Birth Order is the second born sometimes will overtake the 699 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:44.960 first much to the destruction of that firstborn personality. So we talked about today 700 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.559 Vitamin E encouragement. Hey, parents, encourage your kids, watch the critical 701 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:53.039 eye. Realize that failure is a part in the life. Babe Ruth struck 702 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:58.320 out thirteen hundred and thirty times. You know, I think that's right. 703 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.679 But don't always hit a home run your Hall of Famer, you hit three 704 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:07.320 twelve lifetime, So cut some slack, know what I always tell parents, 705 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.760 Hey, in the sea of life, do you have a protocol? Do 706 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.559 you know where you're going? If you do, your kids are going to 707 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:15.679 catch that vision. And again keeping mind, parents, those kids are going 708 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:21.440 to please you. Parenthood isn't easy, but it is simple. Marriage isn't 709 00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.400 easy, but it's simple. There's a simple paradigm. Yeah, you got 710 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:30.480 to understand what they're weird. They go potty in groups. Was it simple 711 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:36.880 to you, see? Yes, But I needed a partner to realize that 712 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.519 you're right. No, In the end, it's like do your best. 713 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.000 Yeah, right, you follow your heart and your kids and if you've got 714 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.719 if you do that with your kids, they'll do the same. It's pretty 715 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.880 simple. And treat them differently. Yeah, because all kids are different. 716 00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.199 Yeah, that's true. Those little firstborns, I mean, us parents. 717 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:59.159 We practiced on those suckers. They're the ice cutter in the lake a life. 718 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:00.360 So how often do you watch a show or listen to the show? 719 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:05.440 Okay, okay, can you, mister expert? You're my favorite show. 720 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:12.159 You're you're my expert here? Firstborn, second board third What are we given? 721 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:14.599 What you know? Well, you're you're the excellent. Oh guy, 722 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.199 So and you're all right, well you've been a writer too, So write 723 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.719 writers tend to be firstborn children. Okay, yeah, and that's obvious with 724 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:27.400 me. I think they love English. They know what they know. What 725 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.559 a dang part of is. I mentioned that to a woman once she slapped 726 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:37.199 my face. Jay is so darn relational. I'm not sure about Jay j 727 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.559 J. Could I could see Jay coming out of the middle of the pack 728 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.880 some place. I am. I am, but I'm sort of I'm sort 729 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.840 of a pseudo first sort of middle but a pseudo first born because there's a 730 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:52.440 seven year gap. Oh yeah, myself on my my, my brother, 731 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.639 and three of them real close together seven years than me. And then I 732 00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.519 got your younger sister seven years is the gap. Now we get a little 733 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.000 added information. In many ways, he was the special jewel of the family 734 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.800 for a long time, and my brothers resented that. Oh yeah, oh 735 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:15.840 yeah, they call them I don't know, it wasn't in Spanish ultra Yeah, 736 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.679 thank you, but yeah, I mean so I was kind of both, 737 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.519 right, I mean, I until like my my I've got two sisters 738 00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:30.000 after me, and the one who's in the middle there she's considered a middle 739 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:31.639 child because she's in the middle child of the second segment of our family, 740 00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:36.519 and she's a classic middle child. I love her to death, but the 741 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.719 middle child, I would think the younger girls would look up at Jewish boy 742 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:42.679 you you rock. I wasn't around enough for them. That was the other 743 00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.199 thing they gave me for because then because after me, there's a six year 744 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.440 gap, Oh sister, So so you were like an uncle. I wasn't. 745 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.840 I wasn't there. I just wasn't there for them. And to this 746 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.920 day, I mean, where you know, I'm sixty four and my wife, 747 00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:00.199 my sister's approaching sixty and she's still gives me you were never here. 748 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:05.360 You didn't help us at all. So all right, hey, Kevin, 749 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.800 thanks it was fun to have you here. Thanks so much for coming in 750 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:13.559 and sticking around with us. This was fascinating stuff. So if you didn't 751 00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.679 get a chance, you're just getting in, be sure to pick it up 752 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.320 on the podcast. We'll be up there on the podcasts. And don't forget 753 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:22.320 to go to our our social media and send us an email if you want 754 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:23.760 to his book. Have a new kid by Friday. I don't want a 755 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.360 new kid, thank you. Steve doesn't want any more kid, Kevin, 756 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.239 Thanks a bunch, and best of luck to your bills next season. All 757 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:35.000 right, well we're out here. We'll be back on Monday. We'll break 758 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:36.719 down the super Bowl. Thanks for being here all week.