1 00:00:07,879 --> 00:00:13,519 Good morning, Mother? Good morning' s sphere wrong, Comonic sphere of 2 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:21,879 the Fund. Welcome to a new episode of Good Morning Mother, wait for 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:28,120 the program in which we like to approach different aspects, challenges, projects, 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,960 people, books, everything that helps us in this beautiful task, so intense, 5 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:38,920 so fun that it is the upbringing, the education, everything related to 6 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:46,359 childhood and beyond. You know that we try to bring you topics of the 7 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:54,600 most diverse and surprising, also and that we like to propose you stimulating challenges 8 00:00:54,679 --> 00:01:00,840 and also to present alternatives and surprises, like the one that we bring you 9 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,280 today or, for example, masked croquettes. Who could imagine that there is 10 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:11,519 a masked croquette? Well, today we present to you the little people who 11 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:18,879 are behind the thinking heads of masked croquette. They are Javiera Torres and Laura 12 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,799 Donada welcome, Javiera, Laura, how you are. Thank you very much, 13 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,319 welcome, very much adore this welcome. Yeah, well, nothing here. 14 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:34,760 Monica very well inventing strange things always Javiera we already know her. He 15 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:41,879 ' s been with us several times. We could hear it with that wonderful 16 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:48,000 podcast, please of the Sonica magnifying glass. So beautiful, Javiera, so 17 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:53,760 beautiful, so stimulating and to be able to listen with the children at home, 18 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:59,280 with the boy, the girls without enjoying it, a project also, 19 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:04,359 super beautiful that we are very sorry that it ended, but that is there 20 00:02:04,439 --> 00:02:08,639 for the enjoyment and enjoyment of all the generations that can enjoy it and that 21 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:15,199 also, has published tale or skies a woman that you do not stop creating 22 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:21,360 things, you do not stop inventing, you do not stop proposing to us 23 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,240 besides questions that we always like. I don' t know why it will 24 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:29,360 be and that on this occasion you come together with the hand of Laura Dorada, 25 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,319 whom, because we didn' t know, so it' s a 26 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:36,439 pleasure Laura we know. Thank you very much, indeed, and please tell 27 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:43,439 us a little bit about you, Laura, if you think it' s 28 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:51,319 all right, because the truth is a schoolmate and a very best friend for 29 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,319 a long time. I mean, we' ve been henchmen since those times 30 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,159 when he dyed Red' s hair on me, cheating on me saying that 31 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,280 he already had a lot of experience, but then he confessed that he had 32 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,560 only once done it to his brother and that he hadn' t been very 33 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,960 happy, but we were already there and that' s kind of like the 34 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,120 sort of things that define us. We get into Bernjenals. We like science, 35 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,400 we like children, we like children' s literature and we like to 36 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:27,639 write both. And then we' ve already done things together at the start 37 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,680 of blogs. We had a blog called Carambola de Croquetas, where the GUIs 38 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:38,719 were born before thinking and the time was Lombardy rebooted and we put our things 39 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,360 there and nobody read us, or anyone else, but we were very happy 40 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,879 in the two thousand four, or so or before day two thousand four. 41 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,759 So out there and since then, because we' re always like what we 42 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:58,759 do, what we do every time we get together there' s a desire 43 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,840 to sauté somehow we made a book about water that was for an association that 44 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:08,719 in the end was because it had lots of jokes and lots of things. 45 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:14,840 And we always have this anxiety about doing things. And this summer we' 46 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:17,680 re meeting in Soria for a week like something you have to do, what 47 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:23,199 you' d like to do no, and well, we' re clear 48 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:26,720 there are things. We' ll talk about it, then there' s 49 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,680 no one. He can do the things others want and what he sells and 50 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:33,439 these things. But that never attracts us, because it seems that making money 51 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:39,040 is something that eludes us. And we wanted to do it. What we 52 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:43,160 wanted to do and put there on the table everything we wanted to do and 53 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:49,399 we composed this cropeta laura you also come from the world of science, like 54 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:55,800 Javier, exactly what you do for putting so a little in context, to 55 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:02,360 see that as with Javi, with a lot of friends that we have out 56 00:05:02,439 --> 00:05:08,800 there crazy. And then I devoted myself to the subject of environmental engineering. 57 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:12,879 Then I went on to the subject of conservation. I worked in different NGOs, 58 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,319 but well, because of life issues and because in the end, you 59 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:23,000 pick up a line and in the end deviates all the time. Or at 60 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:29,560 least, that' s my discharge. Fortunately, fortunately, and then I 61 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:36,759 ended up writing, writing content for companies, social networks, I know fuck 62 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,519 and all web catalogs, such as I mean, I dedicate myself to managing 63 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:46,560 content then because I love to tell. I mean, in the end is 64 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,800 that in the end this says no what of turns. You' ve given, 65 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:53,000 well, I' ve gone around, but not so many, because 66 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,560 in the end, science is looking at the world differently. I think that 67 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,759 ' s what attracts science, as the world amazes you from another perspective and 68 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,879 in the end, counting and counting is the same thing. It' s 69 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:11,160 like collecting data to put it on the table and bring out the fascinating world. 70 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,879 So, well, all of a sudden, I kind of got there 71 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:17,439 by magic. And then, that' s what I do to write myself 72 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,279 because I like it and to train myself in writing. And all that, 73 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,439 I mean, that a little weird, everything, but well, well, 74 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,920 and that' s not it, the right cyminoes are really boring. I 75 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:32,759 think yes, yes, you don' t do well, no, they 76 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:40,759 don' t work out well, friend, well, we have sometimes very 77 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:46,480 closed ideas about what a production and a career should be and on many occasions, 78 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:54,279 in most cases, I would say they are almost not formed by curves, 79 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,319 mountains, bridges. What is that we still follow as in this installed 80 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,680 narrative that virtue the virtuous are a vocation and dedicate yourself in body and soul 81 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,040 for life forever and ever and lift up and say this is what I want 82 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,160 to do and it is very good. There are people who have that luck, 83 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,079 that is, misfortune, I don' t know what to do with 84 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,920 but this call, but there are others who don' t that we have 85 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,279 perhaps our virtue, of the ability to change, of adaptation or seeing how 86 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:25,439 the thing goes and go adapting. And well, it' s another different 87 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,120 narrative and neither better nor worse. It' s another one. So this 88 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,560 isn' t a lot of intelligence. I don' t know a lot 89 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,319 of what. Now all is known, but the way must be right because 90 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:38,680 it is not right. That seems to me to be a very interesting lesson 91 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:43,319 and that, moreover, many people who have that experience have already passed by 92 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,160 here and I like to always tell it, because I think they continue to 93 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:54,199 perpetuate that idea and generate a lot of frustration, because there are many people 94 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,600 who are not so clear what they want to do in life and then it 95 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,319 seems like you have to reach that position, that mistake, that you want 96 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:03,279 to do. But, well, of course, this stops, it stops 97 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:07,240 for a lot. But the man, that' s what we' re 98 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,800 dealing with. The thing is that they unite you, apart from friendship, 99 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,879 a creative spirit, the world of science, the world of childhood and crazy 100 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:26,800 ideas, crazy ideas like this fanzin that you have posed to us. Suddenly. 101 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:31,519 One day Javier writes to me Look at one thing. Give me your 102 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:39,360 address. That' s right, that' s the way it is and 103 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:43,000 all of a sudden you throw us this adventure called the masked croquette. Tell 104 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:52,360 us, please, what is this you and I, Javi give him good 105 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,039 is we think we' ve talked about it other times. Monica, I 106 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,320 think and the magnifying glass also had a little bit of that dye that we 107 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,039 didn' t think childhood would put doors in the field. Science is everything, 108 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,559 and in the same question of a girl there is a science thing with 109 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:11,679 a poetry thing and then when you answer it very well and something else happens, 110 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:18,399 and then we see more and more a bunch of science books for children 111 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,960 or science material for children that is like only based on scientific vision and very 112 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:28,480 close to the rest and to us the passion for science. It doesn' 113 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,759 t come to us like that. What we see in our day to day 114 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:33,720 with the children the time also gives workshops at their school because it doesn' 115 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:39,080 t tell them no to anything, and what we see is that that' 116 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,600 s not so, that it' s not just science. Then we really 117 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,159 liked this idea of we' re going to take a topic and talk about 118 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:54,000 it from all the perspectives that we want and we want to do it in 119 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,720 a way that anyone, that is, that doesn' t depend on borders 120 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:00,799 or having a bookstore nearby, but neither buy it on Amazon. Then I 121 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,840 was born this idea of and if we do something that can be printed and 122 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:11,799 mounted at home and that so the theme of riding it is part of making 123 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,759 your material and then we had to fit all our ideas into this and I 124 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:20,440 also like to make drawings the work, makes collage, we write the two 125 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:26,879 poems for children and tales and then and we share a sense of humor and 126 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,679 one thing that is very fashionable in theory, but that is not so difficult, 127 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:35,559 it is not so easy to find that it is this irreverence and it 128 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:39,360 is a bit, not that in the first I think it is masked, 129 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:43,000 that it was ultraviolet light, because Laura marked a tale of a gentleman with 130 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,919 forescent farts and it stayed so wide. And that' s a little masked 131 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:54,799 croquette, a printable to download and ride at home and then you ride full 132 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,759 color, adds pages. One day he reads a part, one day he 133 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:09,840 makes a crossword puzzle, another day he learns a new thing and another day 134 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,559 he sets up an experiment with the indications we give. So that' s 135 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,000 the idea of how to approach a topic from all sides in a very unscathed 136 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,679 way and very much when you feel like it and without it being didactic. 137 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,440 I think that' s what I was going to say that I think one 138 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,720 thing that defines croquette too is that it' s not in this we have 139 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:37,960 a goal that the person reading it ends up knowing exactly what our other violet 140 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,080 is. How many I don' t know about Us what we think is 141 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,759 that the croquette is full of questions and threads to pull. I mean, 142 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:50,960 it' s not so much about response, but how to say hey you 143 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:54,240 know there' s our ultraviolet out there, I mean, flinch. Since 144 00:11:54,279 --> 00:11:58,759 I' m going to explain to you a little bit how it is about 145 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:01,159 ultraviolet, but it' s just that you have to say the same thing 146 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:05,639 that attracts you the attention of ultraviolet light and keep going around, or don 147 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,679 ' t forget the light for life. I mean it' s a me 148 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:15,039 I think it' s like a call not a touch tok you know like 149 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,200 hy in Lucinto de Veneta flipa such I don' t know what and above 150 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,799 all that not the Violet Route. I can explain to you what it is 151 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,440 but if we play with the name and if we suddenly imagine what would happen 152 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,480 like that, because that' s also science, that is, it' 153 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:30,720 s a form of science, it' s literature, that' s all. 154 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:33,919 It' s not what Javi said. That' s it. It 155 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,120 ' s just that I, for example, the other day I did a 156 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:39,320 density workshop at school and I realized that what was moving him was cooking, 157 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:46,279 that is, and they were there doing a thousand curreries and going through. 158 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:50,039 That' s not great and I thought Joe, who marvels that you have 159 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,759 this space to say take it clear that it does mix ke made with flour 160 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:56,399 to see and put it there to see whether it floats or not. What 161 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:58,480 difference does it make that you' re going to put yourself here to explain 162 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,159 the density of the mass. I told you, I explained it to you 163 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,559 at the beginning of class. Another does what you want if the question arises 164 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,480 and why this happens, because phenomenal. That' s not the idea, 165 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,399 but we don' t want the croquette to be a didactic unit. It 166 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,559 ' s a door, a little pig to explore the second number of the 167 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,720 hair. It has a hair crossword puzzle, a rhymed poem by a gentleman, 168 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,600 a rapuncture, an experiment to see how much a hair resists, the 169 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,840 structure of the hair you paint, the fauna in your hair. If you 170 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:37,919 get under the bed and absorb all the fluff there is, I mean, 171 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:46,320 it' s a little bit of a tour of all aspects and we' 172 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,399 d love it to be very communicative. I mean, we ask a lot 173 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,679 to send us things in the fancín is all the time, please, the 174 00:13:54,679 --> 00:14:00,120 drawing you make. We want to see if you can come up with another 175 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:05,320 ending for the story. We want to see it because that dialogue is very 176 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,480 nutritious and it is what maintains the real connection that we program with our children, 177 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:16,039 the little children of Indias always the poor, but all the real connection 178 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:22,200 with all the other children who have other interests, other viewpoints. No and 179 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:28,240 as the now says, that part of the surreal poets of now takes the 180 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:33,519 word ultra violet. What is this why see all those aspects. Also language 181 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:41,679 play. The language we like very much both of us and we think it 182 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:48,679 is very important to play with it, deconstruct it, use it as a 183 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:52,600 tool, as a game. Then there are the two aspects very closely linked. 184 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,279 The person who hasn' t seen a masked croquette must still be brimming. 185 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,919 Then it' s like that. But yes, it' s a 186 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:09,879 four. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I' ve got the first one 187 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:11,759 here that my son rode on him, so look who' s coming. 188 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,759 Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, yeah, yeah, man, cool, 189 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,440 cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, 190 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,120 cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, 191 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,360 cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, 192 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:35,799 cool, cool, cool, cool. Let' s use it as a 193 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:37,879 definition. Yeah, it' s nothing. Funny, it' s very 194 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,080 good. They love it, I love the slogan. Yes, in fact, 195 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,559 when I received it, I said and to see how, within my 196 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:52,240 rational spirit that sometimes I have I say where I fit it, how I 197 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:58,440 place it, in what category, where to communicate it. It is not 198 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,120 to say that we have also jumped well as you tell it and suddenly you 199 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:10,559 realize that this you have to come to tell people about it, because it 200 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:17,639 is hilarious and it seems to me, moreover, so out of the system 201 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:21,480 is that it seems to me, that is, best of all, how 202 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:26,399 you have chosen it the way people find it and unload it. But by 203 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,600 paying for that now you do not tell it the way it is acquired, 204 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:37,559 but with that hooligan spirit and as indie also, but well not innimal, 205 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:42,399 indiviene indeed. Yeah, I mean, I think what both of us were 206 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,080 attracted to doing something, the one with the other is that we know we 207 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:52,240 ' re crazy on the same wavelength. No, and our point is we 208 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:56,960 don' t want to do anything, because although we' d love to 209 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,159 make ourselves millionaires, but I think they' re masquerading. We have a 210 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:03,159 point of realism still and we know that it is a thing that we do 211 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:04,839 a lot, by the way, because we feel like it. And then 212 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,720 we don' t want to do anything that we don' t want to 213 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:15,480 do, so, in the whole process of the subjects of things, we 214 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:18,880 ' re going through the pipe and we want that to be noticed and not 215 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,839 at this point in life we' re not going to make videos with filters, 216 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:25,279 I mean, for what, what filter nor we' re going to 217 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:30,480 stop. Then it' s all as clear as that, we' ll 218 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,920 finish a whole creoquet costume. You see, I don' t doubt it, 219 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,759 I don' t doubt it, we already have a secret plan to 220 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:38,720 disguise ourselves as lice, but we can' t waste much. But then 221 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,680 the other day I don' t know when we were preparing the ultraviolet light, 222 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,160 for example. Of course, we' ve done everything with the lamp 223 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,440 with I don' t know what. And the ultraviolet light lamp has to 224 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,559 be used with sunglasses because if it doesn' t happen much, because in 225 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:59,039 discos there are many. But just in case and then I hear my kids 226 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,759 where he is. Where' s Mom and you say one, because you 227 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:04,279 know she must be in the bathroom with the sunglasses and she doesn' t 228 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:11,319 stop with ultraviolet light. And it was true and it' s great. 229 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,599 I don' t think we have a lot of fun with that and that 230 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,759 doesn' t feign Whoever gets there will get there if you don' t 231 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,680 say anything and look like two pyres, because that' s it. But 232 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,880 that' s where the indie thing comes from that it' s really that 233 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:32,640 we' re wearing sunglasses watching them pee that glows ultraviolet, so that' 234 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,880 s also that important lizard tool. Yeah, it' s like coming in 235 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:37,839 That' s the one with the sunglasses. Here' s someone who pees 236 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:42,960 outside and we' re gonna find out now, because with the hair thing, 237 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,319 we can take samples with the pancin, the number two on the hair. 238 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,599 We already know that we can take samples and guess who it is, 239 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:55,519 I mean, they' re from that side that comes a little that good. 240 00:18:55,519 --> 00:19:00,640 And also on the practical side, not because Javier and I have you 241 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,599 this mind also super, perfectionist and super even if it does not seem, 242 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:15,400 very very existing, like you have others more. And then one when you 243 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,359 start riding one, when you start riding stuff, instead of or, you 244 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,359 jerk us off, instead of getting to what good do we do this? 245 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,519 How well we do that is as it is already, but we don' 246 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:26,960 t know how to edit it anymore, but we don' t have it 247 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:29,319 as it pays us already, but we don' t have an editorial. 248 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:32,000 And it was the way he looked. I believe that from forty- five 249 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:36,400 years old we are already saying legitimacy, the legitimate we are to say to 250 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,200 do whatever we want, which tool already is? What tools do we have 251 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,599 ourselves that we read a lot and that we like to see what happens here 252 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,720 in life. We' re gonna put all this together, which could be 253 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:56,960 a wonderful, incredible thing edited with extraordinary things and company in three of me 254 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,400 that I know could, but it' s not, it' s not, 255 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,559 and we have to pull forward. And then, for once we' 256 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,400 ve grown up, I think the partner very mature and we said let' 257 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:12,680 s go out, let' s start walking, because what matters, so 258 00:20:12,759 --> 00:20:17,079 if the important thing is that we have a good time, that there are 259 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,319 people there who like a lot, the masked croquette, that they' re 260 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,440 having a super cool reception, that people tell us that it' s a 261 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,680 pass, that they have fun. That' s it, that' s 262 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,079 it, then it' s coming a little. We' ve also made 263 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,599 a movie fan because we like the scam and because we can' t do 264 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:37,039 anything else. What the fuck do you know, that' s fine with 265 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:41,200 the tools we have. We have also found it to be also, i 266 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:44,880 e we both have a bit of a syndrome that I think is very common, 267 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,799 which is the syndrome we call the Molesquine notebook. You don' t 268 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,359 have a wonderful precious notebook, you never paint on it, you never do 269 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,440 anything on it, because it' s so beautiful that your unworthy contribution. 270 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:59,599 I mean, I' m sure you' re gonna start with the wrong 271 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:03,240 thing, because of him, and he' s paralyzing. And sometimes these 272 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:10,519 things too precious, too wonderful, are paralyzing and teach that either what you 273 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,119 do is perfect or you have no right to do anything and we have put 274 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,359 together the need with the virtue of these are the drawings we make. This 275 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:25,759 is the style we like. So, we like to model and it is 276 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:27,920 considered that it is relaxing. It' s also like it' s not 277 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,519 perfect, it' s crappy. Here, here it' s nicer, 278 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,960 here it' s more like, but here it is the children can paint 279 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,279 it. Besides, without having remorse of conscience, not doing what I give 280 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,839 you in a book, you can' t, but here you can do 281 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,559 whatever you want. We encourage you as the front of the croquette, put 282 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,079 it on, hair, hit it, macaroons, lentils. What you want 283 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,240 is not a collective and unpretentious work of being a work of art, but 284 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:59,160 of being a moment that is shared and you have fun and learn something and 285 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:06,839 if you don' t have any more fun and it is together at different 286 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:11,319 levels because you can do it with mother without mother, small big ones, 287 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:14,559 you will like one thing more, no, my nephew likes the story, 288 00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:18,200 but my niece is doing the crossword puzzle and no. Each one gets one 289 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:21,519 thing thrown at those who like to draw more than others who don' t. 290 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:26,119 To me, lem don' t make me do things that look like 291 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,759 homework, because that' s also because this format also allows you to experiment. 292 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,440 I mean, the first croquette had blank pages or the second one we 293 00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:38,400 suddenly removed one day we decided that instead of a five, it' s 294 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:45,000 a four or lu again I don' t know it' s like there 295 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,079 ' s nothing closed, nothing happens, don' t put your own limits, 296 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,640 I mean, maybe the next creapatas a folio. Only I know it 297 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,039 doesn' t matter. Then that freedom also opens a lot for you. 298 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,119 It' s an explosion for your brain not, because it' s like 299 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,720 what we do this time. So, right now we keep a more or 300 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:07,839 less homogeneous format, because if it doesn' t go hand in hand, 301 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:15,200 yes, of course, but nobody takes it away that all of a sudden 302 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:19,279 you call games of combinations popá simple things that can always be mounted, but 303 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:22,240 that are part of that to churrate the fanzine And what difference if it is 304 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,559 a fanzine. You know, that' s a little theory and how people 305 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,200 are saying, where we can find it, how we buy it, what 306 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:40,240 we have to do, there' s subscription, how it goes because you 307 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,640 pray for now, the easiest thing, the easiest thing to buy is to 308 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,319 go to the instagram of the masked croquette that is stealing it. I think 309 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:56,039 they' re masquerade and from there on the profile they have the link and 310 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,519 that' s the point. It' s very simple. You buy a 311 00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:04,440 product for nine euros. You get a text message from an e- mail 312 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,200 pardon and you download it, print it at your house and start the party. 313 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,799 You start riding it, you start doing whatever you want with it. 314 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:18,599 This time we have also given up the possibility that I can. Let' 315 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:22,160 s send a light print with a little bit clearer, you can receive a 316 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,440 clear printer. If you don' t feel like it or if I know 317 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,440 if I finish your ink and live in a town of 200 inhabitants, I 318 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,680 don' t know who could have done that to. I mean, anyway, 319 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,359 you don' t feel like it and then you get it in your 320 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,920 house already printed and ready to ride. We' re not gonna give it 321 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,359 to you, too. We' ll give you printed, but the assembly 322 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:49,440 spree and then we' ve also added this time an option, which is 323 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,720 good. We have a lot of trust in the human being. Then we 324 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:56,079 ' ve given you an option, and if you want it, print out, 325 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,000 for example, this number of hairs to the sea. We think you 326 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,119 can be very interesting for children' s hairdressers. It doesn' t occur 327 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,000 to us that while they are waiting for them to cut the hair of the 328 00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:11,599 girls, because they can be knowing the hair is not an environment of hair 329 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:17,799 and that it is happening then that you, if you have a hairdresser, 330 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,599 can print it as many times as you want, but that you do want 331 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,640 and since it is a contribution, a little more ins instead of for nine 332 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,599 euros, because you buy it for twenty. I think we put in the 333 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:30,359 twenty- five. Javier, I don' t remember and they give different 334 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,880 to two and little gives you license to print it every time you want to 335 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:41,880 see it then that they can color or things like this now people who can 336 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:48,240 see it on the YouTube channel when we upload it that they are illustrations of 337 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:52,440 the hair, like a forest, what it' s called their gums, 338 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,400 their lice. Sure, I mean, we' d really love to, 339 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,400 like, croquette, obviously get everybody to see, we' d love to 340 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,519 be rich. That' s what we' re going to make clear, 341 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:07,160 but I think it' s gourmet. But to make the good clear, 342 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,599 to do good, and then, because we can' t think of it, 343 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,119 that it would be very cool, because I know and all of a 344 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,400 sudden, because they encourage themselves in dentists and tell us why they are toothed, 345 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,720 and the children can see it in the dentist, in the oculist. 346 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:23,680 I know in scenes before traveling, that not that you say oysters how to 347 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,319 run on a plane how, but not an entertainment, but like what' 348 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:30,119 s going to happen about the trip. Oysters didn' t travel before. 349 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,839 I know I' m making up as I go. Gentlemen, I divided 350 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:41,200 that you are listening to us, of course you are listening to us in 351 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,400 what idea you do travel by train. I know there' s a lot 352 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,400 of stuff, yeah, I mean, it' s not a list and 353 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,680 it' s very big and a lot of ideas of where to throw it 354 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:55,240 in the future. We want to have a page, but life doesn' 355 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,000 t come to us yet. But that means we' re on a platform. 356 00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:03,680 There are no several of these platforms where you can buy digital things and 357 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,000 choose one, because you also had to choose. You don' t get 358 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,559 opened up there a universe that' s like ter gods on platforms and we 359 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:14,480 pick one that the truth is that sometimes the time actually happens to us that 360 00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:18,599 it' s a puzzling well because it' s American and you do it 361 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,039 all and in the end they charge you dollars and people are like but don 362 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,240 ' t freak out. It' s normal and they charge the nine euros 363 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,319 if someone comes up with a better platform, please get in touch. Yeah, 364 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,960 we talked about Etsy. We may migrate, but what we want is 365 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,960 to make a page. But, well, that' s clear is that 366 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:41,359 it looks like it' s simple everything, but then it' s not 367 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,880 a level and something else and another and another and another and now how you 368 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:48,079 communicate it and the bro and now this goes with taxes. Then they charge 369 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,960 you, they only charge yes, yes, yes. It' s the 370 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,359 world behind entrepreneurship that seems to be coming up with a film plan. Let 371 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:02,480 ' s put it on, take it buy it, oh my God, 372 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,640 until then it' s been like I want to cry. Yes, but 373 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,680 yes, yes, no. And then on the questions of how you communicate 374 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:11,200 with all this revolution there is that if the algorithm ignores you, it doesn 375 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:17,359 ' t ignore you, that if people are sick of Instagram too and they 376 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,079 don' t want anymore. There are many factors not, but well the 377 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,000 time is good in communication, it is good in networks. We both wrote 378 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,160 we draw we create sansemos, we go little by little. At first we 379 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:32,119 were burdened with Mogollón, not with what you said, we do a subscription 380 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:33,640 model, so you have to go out one a month is as you look. 381 00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:37,759 You have two kids, I have two kids. You live in a 382 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:42,279 village. Life crosses us, not always to help. We' re not 383 00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:44,960 going to see, we' re going little by little. It' s 384 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,200 not like the world' s been throbbing like three days ago that number three 385 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,880 should have come out. It' s not how we' re going to 386 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880 relax, because if we lose the fun, then we' re going to 387 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,640 fry. No. Yeah, we hit the anti- business. Yes, 388 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,319 lanti company. That' s right. It' s like it was previsional, 389 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,799 of course, yeah, forecast was predictable, but it' s like 390 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:07,440 I' m already fatal. Na doesn' t come out, it' 391 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,079 s okay, you don' t care. We' ll be out tomorrow. 392 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:12,160 I don' t know what he hears in the house the day, 393 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,799 I don' t know what the new one has to come out, the 394 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,319 three or I see it fatal. I do what' s fatal, because 395 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:19,960 every morning I don' t know what. I mean, we can do 396 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,519 nothing. Don' t worry. Don' t worry or it' s 397 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,880 sense has to make it not clear that we should do it. Yeah, 398 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:33,000 man, this is conciliation, gentlemen of Spain, it' s real cautilization. 399 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:40,519 It changes, it changes when things happen in real life. And this 400 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,119 is not how we don' t follow the same plan that it is to 401 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:45,480 be what happens. It' s not like that. Things have happened to 402 00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:48,720 them that the other can' t cover because they can' t, too. 403 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,799 I mean, it' s like hell I' m sorry. You 404 00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:56,079 can' t say for another day in three I' m pregnant and a 405 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:03,200 hundred pops can be forty fever and nothing happens partner I' m here. 406 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,519 I exposed mine and we' ll be there or look. I can' 407 00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:14,000 t do it today either, because it' s the algorithm, because girl 408 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:18,200 the I want me to tell you if we haven' t understood it well, 409 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,839 or it' s clear who hears you can do one about it, 410 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:26,000 a ful about what it is that uff I do not understand even the real 411 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,119 ones but they, if we' re going to get to the algorithm, 412 00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,599 it' s not true. We' re going to do it, and 413 00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:33,680 we' re going to do it. But it' s true that although 414 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:41,240 it would be cool if it was a subscription, not because at many levels 415 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,640 children expect There are many magazines for children so they sell through school and my 416 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:49,039 children wait ah it' s first of the month the magazine will arrive and 417 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,599 they get their own mail, that is to say it is a model that 418 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:55,960 is very cool. For that we have to walk a little bit to see 419 00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,359 if we like to dialogue with the real opinion of the children who tell us 420 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,480 this. Yeah, this is a bodrium. This is very cool for you, 421 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,119 but we don' t and go evolving to see where we can go. 422 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,279 But it would be very cool, of course, it would be very 423 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:11,799 cool if it were a clear subscription. We' re going little by little, 424 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,680 well, while I think it' s a very good pace to follow 425 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,799 life. You know that in the end, the important thing is that you 426 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:30,440 also enjoy it that it is very noticeable, it is read perfectly in the 427 00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,920 pages of the fanzine, and that is the most important thing and that you 428 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:38,240 can make it sustainable with your lives, because without that, you know, 429 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,880 it seems to me an example, very good and that is why I really 430 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,839 wanted that you came, because we bring many books, there are many editorial 431 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:56,200 projects and, in reality, or life is full of many things, there 432 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,920 is no space for everything and, suddenly, to find you with something because 433 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:07,720 as I think it has masked you, because it is like recovering there the 434 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:15,640 salsa, not from life, that it is very real nothing or thanks to 435 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:23,160 you, for not losing the desire, to do different things and, above 436 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,480 all, to make us have fun, because this is a question that has 437 00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,440 me junge, that has background there to teach, but above all, to 438 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,480 spend a very good time. It' s the idea. It' s 439 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:37,279 how we' ve had it, very well doing it I hope you have 440 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:45,359 a good time reading it and tearing it apart or expanding it or whatever, 441 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:45,559 because it is and then it' s another way too. It is also 442 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,400 a little more philosodical, but also that type of projects presents you with the 443 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,759 opportunity of another way of consuming. Of course not, I mean, we 444 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:58,359 always say the masked croquette doesn' t have a price. It has a 445 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,559 chance that you contribute to a project, but this is not a marketing strategy. 446 00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:05,720 This is true, that is, and it' s not worth seven 447 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,880 with ninety- nine, nine creve, it' s not how you' 448 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,200 re buying the croquette, you' re supporting this to go on whatever it 449 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:21,079 is. Then you, as a buyer or buyer, can decide where you 450 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,799 put your impact. No. And the issue of over culture and creativity, 451 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:27,359 as we would like to call it, is very important today. No, 452 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:32,880 then, well, it is also a proposal that also this kind of reflections, 453 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,680 although it seems we also have Javi and I, that is, where 454 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,920 we want to place ourselves in the world. So say hey, because we 455 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,359 believe so much in the popular movement, I don' t know what about 456 00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:50,319 it and then, well, we' re going to do something. Well, 457 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,400 let them go that way, which is handled in that environment and let 458 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240 ' s see what happens. So it' s as if that' s 459 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,400 why it' s priceless, but it' s how it contributes to this 460 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,599 project and we have the thanks from there. You know how cool, because 461 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,319 if you support a lot of people, this project will be much more viable. 462 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,360 Obviously, we have the bad habit of circling money to live. That 463 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,960 ' s weird. Yes, we are very rare, but it' s 464 00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:16,920 true that we also, in other words, have our background. We don 465 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,119 ' t have lightness and fun, but we' re very intellectual whenever we 466 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,840 want. And what I was telling you before aesthetics are not pretentious, but 467 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,000 rather liberating, is one of those things, the idea of not talking from 468 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:45,039 a very clear gender perspective. But the protagonist is not a pickle or is 469 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:52,639 a croquette, is homemade, is normal, is nice and is there discovering 470 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,519 the world. It doesn' t have everything, it' s got some 471 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,679 kind of agenda behind it that fits our way of looking at the world. 472 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,599 But we didn' t want to. Yeah, as they say, we 473 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:06,440 ' re the anti- business. Not all the foot shots you can hit 474 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,719 all of us hit them and she could be a princess with a unicorn, 475 00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:15,480 which is that she already sells no no. A croquette, a masked croquette 476 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:22,320 could be a superhero or not, and but it does not have a reason 477 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:29,400 why we believe in multidisciplinaryness, in a vision from many angles, in a 478 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:35,000 gender perspective without stridence, in which it is simply a croquette to which the 479 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:42,039 world discovers. And that' s because not in a comforting aesthetic and in 480 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,639 doing what we can, not both of us anymore. We already have projects 481 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,880 that are to survive and that are made, whether you can or not and 482 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,320 that have deadlines, that have distresses and that have to go worse than you 483 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,679 wanted, because it doesn' t give you time and we didn' t 484 00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:00,639 want the croquette to be that. The croquette is our verjel and it' 485 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:06,639 s like the place where we do what they' re not making fart tales 486 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,800 of all that. Yeah. In addition, I find it very interesting that 487 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:16,320 the children who are the ones who are mostly directed, although the fathers, 488 00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:22,159 the mothers are the ones we contribute, but the audience to which it is 489 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:24,800 directed are the creatures who know this model as well. This that you mention 490 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:31,119 about the consumption model also fanzines as a product that is true that it is 491 00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:37,880 very underground and that has maybe that punk part there also the children like very 492 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,239 much and it is very good also to conquer them out there is not a 493 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:52,480 minority product and as rebel like to get out a little of the mainstream that 494 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,480 here I am putting many words, but it is true yes, yes, 495 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,840 yes, as a more careful product, that is to be more careful within 496 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,280 that that that you comment about is the style that we want to do less 497 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,679 care, but it is like a special thing. Not that' s what 498 00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:10,519 you can do and that you can make yours very easily clear as a child, 499 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,760 not you, can now point your parents to a book binding workshop. 500 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:20,159 I don' t know what, but a fanzine is to paint some leaflets, 501 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,480 fold them and make the story you want, and that' s very 502 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,559 attractive to us to give possibilities as well. There is not always this speech 503 00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:31,280 that I know that you deal many times with Cristina and such about screens, 504 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:37,599 not screens and how not, and many times it is to remove remove the 505 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,679 screen, forbid speech, but why not give anything else that is more entertaining 506 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,679 for a while. We' re not going to fool ourselves Fans aren' 507 00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:52,119 t the panacea here. No, but say, look. We put these 508 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,400 pages together, we number, now we open it. Who does what is 509 00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,119 one thing that you can do very easily with what you have at home and 510 00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:02,559 also, on that side, we find very attractive. He' s got 511 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:07,320 that punk thing and it' s really good. Yes, yes, good, 512 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,079 well, it' s very punk And besides, it' s also 513 00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:17,280 not like getting used to that there are things that don' t cost either, 514 00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:22,840 So you don' t have to pay everything, So we' re 515 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,079 in a very mercantile system and that even if it has its price because it 516 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,960 is worth it, not the contribution, but that to enter into those experiences 517 00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:36,599 that in the end, the most satisfying is not in the product itself, 518 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:44,280 but in the experience that accompanies these pages that you have given us that everything 519 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:50,400 you believe is the richest to tell us the stories, to enjoy, riding 520 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,000 the fanzine or drawing or what comes next. No or remember what we have 521 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,000 done, that all that, because they also value it that in the end 522 00:38:55,039 --> 00:39:00,920 I know that they do, but that we are like because this costs twenty 523 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,639 - five euros the book and you take it and it is finished and then 524 00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:09,599 you leave it there because you can not spoil jolinda a tremendous penalty and super 525 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:13,840 beautiful books. Then you say oh, no. I tell him I don 526 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,480 ' t know, he said you can remember the book that cost you 20 527 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,000 euros and I say no, honestly, you can' t. Instead, 528 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,199 you can cut the fantile and then son for God' s sake, cut 529 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:29,400 it to fringe me who knows what you want not and the object, the 530 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:36,760 book or the fancino whatever you want as an artifact, that is, as 531 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,760 an element to transform it. Touching it is also very interesting, not because 532 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,440 we are used to books in that passing, page and observing thing, and 533 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,760 that' s wonderful, I mean, it seems fascinating to me. But 534 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,960 there is also another version that is like the book, like that, as 535 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,639 a tool, gadget to undo it. And that also breaks your schematics a 536 00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,079 little bit, because we' re not on the coast named to that to 537 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:06,840 take around, to build it, to complete it, to pick up here 538 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,679 and croquette it and put it on. Here' s what Javi said, 539 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,360 not stick it in here and put it in lentils. Yes, yes, 540 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,920 if you can, I can do the crossword puzzle and paint it here Yes, 541 00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:20,599 of course, of course you can perfectly and sometimes it' s mandatory. 542 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:27,039 Of course in the last one we have a pelario that is like a 543 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:30,039 herbarium and we have to go there, you carry it around in your pocket 544 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:32,039 and hair that you find, because what you stick in your hair and you 545 00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:38,199 see that they are different, in that they are not and clear is how 546 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,679 it is obligatory and the fact of collecting yours also clear that, besides, 547 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,559 it reminds me of my childhood in the collections, that is, when we 548 00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:51,559 were waiting, for example, the collections that came out in those already lost 549 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,639 and in the Kioscos, in the Kioscos, because of the country, the 550 00:40:54,639 --> 00:41:00,559 small country, these children' s collections that took out weekly strips and I 551 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:05,360 kept them all and kept them, I cut them kept them. And that 552 00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:13,719 also creates when you' re little, when it creates that feeling that you 553 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,840 ' re accumulating something that' s yours, that you cost your jeo in 554 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,760 some way, you participate, duck, you, you pick them up, 555 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,039 you, keepers, you, you take care of them and on top. 556 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,679 I wish, and the cinema has a lot of that and both for childhood 557 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,920 and then people, for adults, that niche part of this only ours has 558 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:45,000 that little taste to value and I think it' s cool to get it 559 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,400 back, because it' s true that it' s lost, it' 560 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,599 s lost today. In addition, all digital, of course, fanzines cost 561 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,920 them there is already more digital, a much faster version, less joyful to 562 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:05,039 print mounted and save and have it handled there. So in the end you 563 00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:08,159 have to value it. For many different aspects. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 564 00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:15,239 it' s true, it' s like a number for the chromes 565 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,159 we used to make. It' s like Mira, I have a new 566 00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,039 chrome and well, well, that would be great. Yeah, that' 567 00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:29,159 s nice,' cause we expect it to reach a lot more people who 568 00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:30,920 already know it' s getting there. Little by little, the croquettes are 569 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:37,559 spread out. This pretend or I know someone who is. We are open 570 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:44,320 to any type of marte, multimillionaire country, producers of animated croquettes of the 571 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,199 world. I don' t know how to be. These women have a 572 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:51,119 lot of super creative ideas. Look, there' s the gluten croquette, 573 00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:54,400 gluten- free, if a type of fillings, all kinds of fillings. 574 00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:04,320 Javiera Laura is a pleasure to chat with you. It' s always that 575 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,519 everything that comes to you, Laura didn' t know you but everything that 576 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:12,480 comes to me through Javiera is always very cool and I love to be able 577 00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:17,760 to tell it, because well, that' s why we' re here 578 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,840 to serve as a speaker to the extent that it' s such cool things 579 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,599 and that make me feel both to know them and this, as well as 580 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,760 everything that you' ve brought Javiera to us. And now, then, 581 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,079 this masked croquette, which I hope will go very far. Please, we 582 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:39,719 want many thanks, nothing, thank you very much. Total pleasure encouraged with 583 00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:45,880 this project and good that we will follow you, we will follow the masked 584 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,280 croquette. We will leave all the information in the others of the program the 585 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:58,760 Instagram user where you can locate these two women so that, since any doubt 586 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,719 comments suggestion, you see it and that to our audience, because you are 587 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:08,119 encouraged to discover this masked croquette, which is full of very good moments. 588 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:14,800 So I think that' s pretty much it, yeah, yeah. Thank 589 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,840 you very much, thank you very much. Thank you very much, Javiera 590 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,719 Laura, Thank you Monica, for always inviting us already the people who are 591 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,159 listening, thank you for hearing it, yes, it is true, that 592 00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:30,360 always. Thanks for listening. Good morning, maderefera and podcast you have to 593 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,960 listen, many podcasts, which is a table and you hear and the croquette 594 00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:38,079 can also come by audio format. I' ll leave it there. There 595 00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:39,559 it is, I don' t know it' s in the air. 596 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:45,760 That' s where we sound, there' s a croquette. That' 597 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,400 s where we left it. We' re going back in a new episode 598 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,639 of Good Morning. Mother, wait for a very strong hug Javier Laura and 599 00:44:52,679 --> 00:45:30,639 thanks to our entire audience. Bye bye Thank you, Cha. S s 600 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,519 S? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? S