WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:36.479 day. Now, here's Nick coffee. All right, let's do this hour 3 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.280 number three here, the five o'clock hour on a Thursday afternoon. Coffee and 4 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.640 company. That is us, fueled by Thornton's on a Sports Talk seven ninety 5 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:48.159 Nick coffee. That's me the company man, mister John Alden alongside. And 6 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.119 if you remember yesterday, I tried to give everybody a reminder. I think 7 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.759 most people know this. Now. Mother's Day always very busy for restaurants, 8 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:57.240 but it is in fact the busiest day of the year for restaurants. So 9 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:02.159 I mean, make make arrangements now. But I think again, even if 10 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.959 you make arrangements, I feel like you could still probably end up having to 11 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:10.519 wait because or maybe if you're making arrangements now, like for reservations, maybe 12 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:15.359 maybe you can't do it. But I just I'm sure there are people that 13 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:19.599 are going to sho up at a restaurant or for lunch, maybe dinner and 14 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.040 pull actually they're gonna pull in the park line just leave because they're gonna see 15 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:29.760 how crowded it is. And I'm such a child when it comes to eating, 16 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.480 like I I can be satisfied with like McDonald's, Like I don't eat 17 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:38.560 that very often, but like I won't wait very long anywhere at least if 18 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:44.319 it's my call, just because I can, I can be satisfied with the 19 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.760 different place that I don't have to wait that. Like I love food like 20 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:49.120 anybody else, right, I mean people love eating. I love eating. 21 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.680 I mean I have favorite foods. But like nothing is that's just my personality. 22 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.680 I suppose, like there's not No, it's not many places I would 23 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:00.480 that I would say, okay, our wait, but I can go next 24 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:01.719 door and it's nothing. Uh yeah, I'm gonna wait an hour, Like 25 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:05.719 it's just Nothing's that good to me? What's your maximum that you'll wait for 26 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:09.680 anything? Oh gosh, if it's me, I mean, let's just say 27 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:13.400 it's you and your wife going out for just a date night. What's the 28 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:16.680 longest you'll wait for anything? Well, it's a trick question because if we 29 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:20.840 went somewhere just the two of us, she picked where we went. So 30 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.879 therefore, like it's her call how long we're waiting, because it's not I'm 31 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.280 not the reason we're there, you know what I mean. But if it's 32 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.039 I don't know honestly, if I'm gonna wait if they tell me the waits 33 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:38.159 fifteen to twenty minutes or twenty to thirty minutes. Here's what it comes down 34 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.719 to. I actually because I can be like again, I can find something 35 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.680 I like, because I'm such a basic eater. It's about atmosphere. If 36 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:51.400 there's a good atmosphere and like it's you know, I'm you know, looking 37 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.879 to catch the vibe essentially and have a good evening with you know, drinks, 38 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.599 dinner with friends, or just my wife. Then I would wait for 39 00:02:57.639 --> 00:02:59.639 that, especially if I can go get a drink while I wait or something 40 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:04.000 like that. But if I've got my kids and we have to wait different 41 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.680 ballgame. I mean, it's hard enough to keep them entertained with tablets at 42 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:09.800 dinner, but if we're in the if we're in the waiting room or the 43 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:13.599 area where and that's another part of it, Like if you have a you 44 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:15.199 have like we give you an example. They have a free plug for this 45 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.520 place that I don't go to that often, but when we do go, 46 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:22.400 I mean it's it's one of our favorite places. Is It's a hibachi place 47 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:28.199 called Saki Blue. They used to have no waiting area like nowhere when you're 48 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.719 packed in there like sardines. Well they've done some expansion and cleared out of 49 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:35.520 space to where now they actually have a decent sized area with a bar, 50 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.039 to where I can now stomach a long wait there, because one, I 51 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:42.960 love the place, but also like it's not it's it's not as uncomfortable. 52 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:45.759 What about you, Like, are you someone that I feel like just just 53 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:49.319 guessing you won't wait anywhere? No, it depends on what it is. 54 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.960 I'll do thirty to forty five. I can. I can get by without 55 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.159 complaining, and especially if we're with a group, like I'm not going to 56 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.599 be the guy that says, oh, we gotta get out. Yeah, 57 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.439 I'm not going to be that that ass you know what I mean, I've 58 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.919 done that before. Not to be like, not to be like all the 59 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:05.439 hell with this, I'm leaving you guys, enjoy this. But I'll be 60 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:10.800 the guy that will it's just my impatience and my weirdness. I'll be the 61 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.080 guy that'll like, well, you know, just a block over, they've 62 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:16.399 got this place. Now, I'll do that. That's that's fair. I've 63 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:23.480 done that before. So again, just remember though, if your mother wants 64 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:26.199 to go there, and there's a long wait, and she's willing to wait. 65 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.720 Then you're gonna wait, and that's what you should do. It's mother's 66 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.319 Day, it's their day. So just keep that in mind, fellas. 67 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:32.800 All right, before we get into the you know, the stuff we're supposed 68 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:39.920 to talk about. Sports. A survey here that tells us how close Americans 69 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:45.040 are with their mothers. I'm gonna read it here. It says nearly half, 70 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.879 which is forty eight percent of the two thousand Americans that were pulled, 71 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:53.319 wish they were closer to their moms. It makes me sad. While forty 72 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:58.360 six percent see their moms at least once a week. The most common ways 73 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:02.439 people bond with their mothers are by sharing life updates, celebrating holidays and milestones 74 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:08.879 together, and sharing both positive and negative emotions. The things people are least 75 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:14.120 likely to do with their mothers is ask for advice, engage in shared interests, 76 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:19.279 and give physical affection. See I can't, I can't really relate to 77 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:25.360 that. I mean, I see my mom at least once a week. 78 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.839 And it's funny, we were weren't even not just talking about this like a 79 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:33.079 day ago to days ago ago. Because I see my mom at least once 80 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:39.680 a week and it and it's mostly because well and I'll never know, but 81 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.680 it's because of my kids. My mom is you know, very close with 82 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.279 my children. Both my parents are, and you know, they make it 83 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.360 a point. And I probably take this for granted, but like they make 84 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.120 it a point to come see my kids. Obviously I have a three year 85 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:54.879 old and an eight year old, Like they can't get in the car and 86 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:58.399 go see Grandma and and and whatnot, which which by the way, she's 87 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.959 got God not Grandma. But you know, so like that's something that not 88 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.519 only like do they I mean I assume they want to see me and my 89 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.439 wife and my sister too whenever they make those kind of trips to be around. 90 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:11.519 But it's it's great because I, you know, I get to see 91 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.079 my mom at least once a week. Usually sometimes we're maybe two weeks to 92 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.079 go by, but like when my son has a baseball game or my daughter 93 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:21.839 is a baseball game, or even like if my nephew has a has a 94 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:26.160 basketball game, like we'll kind of all be there together as a family. 95 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.759 So that's not really like spending like a lot of time together but it's you 96 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.920 know, seeing my parents catching up, saying hello, that kind of stuff. 97 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:38.680 But also like I'll I mean, i'll I see my mom sometimes without 98 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.040 my without my kids, like we'll go to lunch or something, or I'll 99 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.600 go over her house and see her. So that's kind of always been that 100 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:46.600 way, like my whole life. I don't know if I would be called 101 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.920 I would I don't know. I think I've been called a mama's boy by 102 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:54.560 my wife before, but I don't know if she just says that because maybe 103 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.600 you know, I'm closer to my mom than than you know she is with 104 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.600 hers. But uh yeah, like I you know, if I if I 105 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:06.480 had like something really really like serious going on where I was scared, where 106 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:11.000 like you know, I had to be an adult, and like my wife, 107 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.240 I didn't want, you know, I didn't I didn't want to rely 108 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.600 on her to help me, I would call my mom. Like it's idding 109 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.160 till the day I die. I'll always have the instincts of like, all 110 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:19.879 crap, I don't know what to do. I'm gonna call my mom. 111 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:24.519 It's just what It's funny. That's what my wife does with her mother if 112 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:28.199 she if she has a question about something and for some reason, she doesn't 113 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.199 want to console me about her She might think that she can get better advice 114 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.879 from her mother. She will talk to her mom before me. See, 115 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:36.439 I think that's totally normal. But again I don't. Everybody's normal is different, 116 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.759 you know what I mean. Like there's probably there's probably very few things 117 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:44.920 I've ever discussed with my mom that like my wife doesn't know about, you 118 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.600 know what I mean. But and there's certain things I don't want to burden 119 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.439 my wife with, you know what I mean. Like that doesn't happen very 120 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:55.639 often, but like you know, like just give you scenario. If I 121 00:07:55.720 --> 00:08:00.000 was considering taking a different job, I would obviously talk to my wife, 122 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:03.040 But before I would talk to my wife, I would want to talk to 123 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.680 my parents and see what they thought and discuss that and just because give them 124 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:11.360 my parents, Like that's there. I just think it's for most people. 125 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.639 And again maybe I'm wrong. I just think it's instincts just don't go away, 126 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.839 even when you become an adult and you have kids of your own, 127 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.120 Like it's just it's how it works with parents. I feel like I don't 128 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.560 like to ask parents for advice, And it's not because I think they give 129 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:26.160 me bad advice. I think there is a sense of pride in me. 130 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.959 It's probably not healthy honestly, to where I feel like I need to be 131 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.320 able to show them that I can handle things myself. Well, you are 132 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.320 you're I mean, you're at an age now where you mean that makes that 133 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.360 make sense because you are still relatively young in the world of like having a 134 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:45.279 mortgage, a full time job, of marriage, Like you're you're a young 135 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.799 adult. I am not, you know what I mean. So yeah, 136 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.679 and I have children, so like it's a little bit different. We're not 137 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.200 that far apart in age, but like our situations kind of are just because 138 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:00.399 of different stages of life, exactly different stages. So like I would never 139 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.519 want to burden my parents, and my parents would never want to burden me, 140 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.720 And I know that's not the case. And when I say burden, 141 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.000 I mean, like, you know, like sometimes it happens, but like 142 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.720 you know, ask for help that kind of stuff, like if I needed, 143 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:16.960 if I needed like some one of my parents to give me money so 144 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.120 I could feed my kids, Hopefully that never happens, like they would, 145 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.200 but just the thought of having to do that, I would never you know, 146 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.559 I would hate to be in that situation. So I don't know. 147 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.879 Everybody's different, right, like you know. Just I'm looking at this the 148 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.720 results from this survey. They've pulled two thousand people, and I'm kind of 149 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:35.200 like, yeah, like this doesn't really mean much to me, because again, 150 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:41.000 everybody's situation is different. Like my my wife as she's close, like 151 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:45.759 she has a good relationship with both of her parents, as do I, 152 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.960 but it's totally different, you know what I mean, Like she could not 153 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:56.399 talk to her parents maybe I don't know, for a week or something, 154 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.720 two weeks. Maybe maybe they text here and there, Like my dad calls 155 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:03.639 me every day just to talk, you know. So I'm more like your 156 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.279 wife and that I can go two or three weeks without talking to my mom, 157 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.320 and maybe that's too long. I think what we're discovering here is as 158 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.080 we as we chat, as I am a mama's boy, I think that's 159 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:15.960 what we've I think that's what we've uncovered here, just as out you know, 160 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.559 I mean, like you all don't like call your mom and cry like 161 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.399 when your favorite team loses. That's not normal. I'm kidding. I don't 162 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.360 do that. I will say this. I asked my mom to lunch tomorrow 163 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.480 and a lot of it because you good job. Yeah, I didn't want 164 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.480 to bring that up because I didn't know if you wanted to talk about that, 165 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.960 But yeah, that's good because that and you know, I don't know 166 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.960 if she's listening right now or if she ever listens, but like I would 167 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.240 be willing I've only met your mother once, but i'd be willing to bet 168 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.000 the fact that you just asked her to go to lunch probably was. She 169 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.519 was probably so happy to hear that. Not because she thinks, like that's 170 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.399 so out of that's so out of character for you, but like, you 171 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.440 know, that's good stuff. Man, that's good stuff. So I don't 172 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:54.480 get to go to lunch as much with my mom as I used to. 173 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.279 I could, but now that I'm on. When I was on in the 174 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.799 mornings, it was perfect because I could get the shit done and you know, 175 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:03.840 run some errands and but now, like she goes to lunch at one 176 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.360 and it just would put it a little tight as far as time to get 177 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.399 you know, ready for the show. So but we're looking I'm gonna we're 178 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.320 gonna go have have brunch at her house on Sunday, looking forward to that. 179 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.559 So hopefully everybody has you know, I know, obviously a lot of 180 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.759 folks may not have their parents anymore of their mother and that's very sad. 181 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:22.799 But I hope you have a mother in your life in some way, right, 182 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.080 like even if it's not your mother or even a grandmother, but like 183 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.000 if your wife's some mother or you know, even my sister, like she's 184 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.080 we're gonna hang out with her on Mother's Day too, she's a mom. 185 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.480 So anyways, let's uh, let's I'm gonna kind of go back here to 186 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.039 the beginning of the show just to catch some folks up on some of the 187 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.279 things we discussed a little a little earlier. I know we usually have a 188 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.720 different audience from the three o'clock hour to the five o'clock hour. But the 189 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.480 transfer portal and the nil like, that's been a huge talking point for I 190 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.159 mean years now, a couple of years now, right especially this time of 191 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.600 year, whenever guys are hitting the portal and you got to have nil resources 192 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.759 to get them. And I've always said that I believe that the number you 193 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.759 hear for a lot of players is exaggerated. And I've said many times I 194 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:11.120 think it's just because it's a mutually beneficial arrangement as far as optics and perception. 195 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:15.200 If you are the school that everybody's seeing, damn, they're going to 196 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:16.399 pay two million for that guy. That's a good look on you. That's 197 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.360 going to have more players in the portal wanting to come and play for you 198 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.639 because they want your money. If you're the player that has that price tag 199 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.039 and schools are willing to pay it, or at least it's perceived that way 200 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.679 that by definition, if it's real, which it's not, is your value. 201 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.480 So there's no transparency, there's probably never going to be, and to 202 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.559 be honest with you, it's really not our business to be. I mean, 203 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.200 I don't think I'm entitled to know how much a college kids making through 204 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.240 ANIL. I'd be interested, I'd be nosy, but like I don't, 205 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:48.759 I'm not entitled to that. So the athletic their crew did a really good 206 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.840 job of putting together a piece. It was Kyle Tucker, CJ. Moore, 207 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:58.320 and Brendan Marx that the title is how much are men's college basketball transfers 208 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:03.200 really getting paid? And there are insiders they spoke to that from what I 209 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.879 understand, these are people who are involved in the inil world, meaning like 210 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:15.919 agents or actually people who work for a collective, or people who have a 211 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.799 lot of money and they have a lot of love for a certain school and 212 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:22.480 they want to help them out, so they talk to a variety of different 213 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:24.440 people. Of course, they did not name them, And maybe I choose 214 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.200 to believe this because it does make it seem as if I was maybe you 215 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.000 know, right about it, but I think, you know, I trust 216 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:35.200 the reporting of these guys and these numbers again, like it's still a lot 217 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:39.879 of money to someone like myself, but you know, it's not two million, 218 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:43.440 two and a half million or one point eight million for the vast majority 219 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:48.919 of these players. But the schools that this time right now in college basketball, 220 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.279 by the way, this is college basketball only, not football. I 221 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.600 wish we had, but I believe the same thing in football as far as 222 00:13:54.600 --> 00:14:00.240 the number being just exaggerated. But right now, one of the sources that 223 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:05.639 they talked to and quoted in this story, Baylor, Arkansas, Louisville, 224 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:11.519 Indiana, Alabama, and Kentucky are the biggest spenders this free Agenciason, which 225 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:18.440 again I think makes total sense because you know, Bama. Bama made a 226 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.840 Final four. They will support basketball when it's good and they're rolling right now. 227 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:26.399 Indiana since day one has had a lot of in IL money. I 228 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.559 mean, it seems to be kind of quiet usually, but sure enough, 229 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.879 anytime this comes up, Indiana has always always mentioned as it's as a school 230 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.679 that has that has resources, and I mean that's how they got McKenzie and 231 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.320 Baco last year, that's how they got Ballo this year. I mean they 232 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:48.159 have resources, which again is needed. And then Kentucky and Louisville obviously those 233 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:54.759 are big, those are big programs. But I think for Louisville specifically, 234 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.279 the amount of money they have right now for an IL, I hope that 235 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.000 it, you know, this is sustainable, Like I hope every year you 236 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.080 can be a school that has those resources and you can. I'm not like 237 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:07.279 worried that it's all gonna run out. But the situation here, I believe 238 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:11.639 is it's worked out well because Pat Kelsey, you got him cheap. I'm 239 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.600 surprised that he's paid what he's paid. I mean, it's a lot of 240 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:18.440 money to someone like myself, but it's easily the least amount of money Louisville's 241 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.720 paid a coach since you know, I don't know when, and I know 242 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.200 obviously inflation, like you know, two point whatever he's making now is a 243 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.879 lot. You know, that would have been considered the highest paid guy twenty 244 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.159 years ago. But you didn't have to go pay a large buy out to 245 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.159 get him. And you know, because he's not Scott Drew that's won a 246 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.519 national championship. If he were interested and he wanted to come here, you'd 247 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.720 had to pay him eight million a year. Well you pay you're paying Pat 248 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.799 Kelsey a fourth of that essentially, and a lot of the money that you 249 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.720 know, I guess was available to get a Scott Drew if he wanted to 250 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.120 come, A lot of that has been shifted towards ANIL resources, which is 251 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.159 which is great. I mean, it's it's worked out perfectly. And you 252 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.960 know the campaign that they launched that was huge for men's basketball, right the 253 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.320 million dollar match that Rick Keeber did, I mean, that's that's awesome. 254 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.399 So that's not a real surprise to see that those schools are the biggest spenders 255 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:12.879 out there. And Baylor, I don't know where their money comes from, 256 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:19.120 maybe because they don't pay Scott drew a whole lot. And but like they 257 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:23.440 I mean, that's not a surprise because Waco, Texas being the place where 258 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.360 some of the best players in the country, whether it be high school kids 259 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.679 or transfers, deciding to go, Like it's got to be money, and 260 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.519 you know, Baylor's good, so maybe they want to be a part of 261 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.960 some success. But those are the schools that are apparently spending the most money. 262 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.360 But when you hear about a big name in the portal, I feel 263 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:45.279 like when it gets out that this is what the market is, it's like 264 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.759 seven hundred and fifty k or higher, or one million or one point five 265 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:55.399 one point eight, that's just the noise about these big these big names. 266 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:00.600 But that's not the reality. So according to a variety of different folks, 267 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.720 rather it be again somebody with a collective or an agent. In fact, 268 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.160 I think one of the people quoted here is actually a player. So if 269 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:12.559 you are in the portal and you're a starter for a power high major program 270 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.680 like you know, think Louisville, Kentucky, you know, Duke, if 271 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.799 you're a starter, two hundred to two hundred and fifty thousand is like the 272 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:25.920 bottom level. And again this is if you transfer in and that's where your 273 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.759 value is. If you're just there, obviously you can hit the portal and 274 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.960 check your market value, but like I don't think dudes who stick around are 275 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.240 getting taken care of probably the way they would if they transfer if they're good. 276 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.319 Right now, if you're an All Conference player, it's more around three 277 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.400 hundred and fifty thousand. That's a guy who is either probably coming back to 278 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:48.039 school as an All Conference player or transferring as an All Conference performer. Three 279 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.160 hundred and fifty thousand to four hundred if you're an All American and you come 280 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:55.839 back to school, which is rare, honestly, But if you're an All 281 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:59.160 American you come back to school, five hundred thousand plus is believed to be 282 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:03.480 the range. So that to me is more believable, more realistic. It's 283 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.519 still is just it's a lot of money or for these you know, for 284 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.720 these student athletes, but you know they're not they're they're pros now they have 285 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.599 been, and this makes it, you know, even more official, although 286 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:19.000 it's still stupid how they dress it up as it's not pay for play, 287 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:26.440 it's you know, it's because your name is Ben Johnson. So stupid. 288 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:32.519 So the conference situation is apparently a big deal as well. Like, I 289 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:37.720 think this is silly. But in the Big East they probably don't have as 290 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.680 much money. I guess, I don't know. I mean, it's weird 291 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:44.160 because in the Big East you you don't have football, but you know, 292 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:47.119 therefore you don't have to pay for football. It's not an expense. So 293 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:48.160 I just feel like, if you've got a good like if you've got a 294 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:52.240 good TV deal in the Big East, which I believe they do, you 295 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.480 know, you don't have as much overhead because football costs a lot of money 296 00:18:55.519 --> 00:19:00.160 just to run. But apparently, like the Big East still is struggling to 297 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.799 be able to at certain places compete with not every school right, Like Rippetino 298 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.680 just landed the best backcourt in the portal with davey On Smith and Kadari Richmond. 299 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:12.359 Is that his name? I think? Or Ruths. No, that's 300 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:17.000 the freshman that's visiting Louisville, Kadari Richmond. For some reason, I'm so 301 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.960 for some reason, I know that's his name, but when I say it, 302 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.119 I'm like, no, that can't be his name. But he transferred 303 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:23.920 from Seaton Hall and it's totally irrelevant to what we're talking about right now. 304 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.160 But now I got to look it up and it is Kadari Richmond. So 305 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.759 uh, I just found that to be interesting. You know, maybe it'll 306 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:36.000 change over time, right like NIL is still going to be a thing whenever 307 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.079 these these college kids are employees of the school, because that's coming and the 308 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.160 schools will be responsible. Actually they're not gonna be responsible for paying them. 309 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.240 They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna choose to pay them or not. Like they're 310 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.319 gonna be allowed to do it. But if you choose not to, you're 311 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:53.640 not gonna get any players. Like, so everybody who wants to be good 312 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:56.599 in sports is going to do that. And unfortunately, it's actually probably going 313 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.680 to lead to some sports getting acts that don't make money. So where they 314 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.200 can have the money the resources to pay the players who play the sports, 315 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.279 they generate money for the school, which is which it sucks, but that's 316 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:12.839 I just think that's coming for certain places. So once everybody knows, hey, 317 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:17.720 they're an employee, they're making this much money, it may be more 318 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:19.759 difficult for you to say, hey, I need a million, you know 319 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:25.200 what I mean, Like if you're already getting this much money. Like, 320 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:29.079 I don't know if people would be willing to go as deep in their pockets. 321 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:33.279 But then again, man, like what fascinates me about this whole thing 322 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.160 is that there are people with a lot of money, like maybe not even 323 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:40.119 considered like super wealthy, but just rich, right, like you know, 324 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:45.160 something I can't relate to. And their escape from maybe their whatever their career 325 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:49.079 is their big business dealings that has led to them being super rich. Their 326 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:56.440 escape and their passion is the school they love and they love it many they 327 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:03.519 are so passionate about the Texas Longhorns or the Louisville Cardinals or whatever. So 328 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:07.519 like, if they've got it, this is like leisure money for them, 329 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.480 right, Like, hey, you go out, you spend a bunch of 330 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:11.839 money that you know that is a lot of money to you to go on 331 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:17.400 vacation and go to Hawaii with your family. They may go pay eight hundred 332 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.440 thousand for a power forward because they have it, and that's how they choose 333 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.440 to, you know, spend their money for you know, weird to call 334 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:30.559 it entertainment, but like, you know, income that you can just spend 335 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.799 on whatever you want because you got enough of it. Right. For me, 336 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.880 that would be you know, go in and buying a new pair of 337 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:41.039 shoes, because that's my life financially. For you know, somebody else, 338 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:45.119 it might be, hey, let's go get it all American. I've been 339 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.279 saving all right, stick around to coffee and company. Feel abou Thorton's right 340 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:53.720 here on Sports Talk seven ninety and Acon just kind of just kind of disappeared, 341 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:57.599 didn't he. I feel like he was featured in every hip hop rap 342 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:03.640 song he between the mid two thousands into the early twenties. I would I 343 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.200 mean, I could be wrong here, just guessing, trying to I mean, 344 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:08.279 he had some songs that were his that were big hits, but yeah, 345 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.599 like a lot of the songs I think people think of him for he 346 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.279 was He did the hook and it was made the song. But yeah, 347 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:18.200 he kind of just like I think, I feel like he stopped doing music 348 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:23.240 and like started like helping his country and devoting like a lot of his his 349 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:29.759 time and resources to doing things for you know where he was originally from, 350 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.279 Jamaica, I believe. But did he say did I hear the edited version 351 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.480 say mother sucker? And it said something weird? Because it is the edited 352 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:40.279 version, I don't know what word he said, but I think instead of 353 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:41.640 you know, the MF or he said mother sucker. And I'm like, 354 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:47.319 why, why hasn't that become the default, the automatic go to when you 355 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:49.960 can't say MF or you say mother sucker? I mean it just I mean, 356 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.240 I feel like I'm cursing when I say it. John's by day the 357 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:56.680 dumb button, I hear you. It just feels like I shouldn't be saying 358 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.079 that because you know, yeah, anyways, shout out to a on All 359 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:07.839 right, so quick update here for those who care. I believe every staffer 360 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.480 other than one for Louisville has landed elsewhere. That, of course, was, 361 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.160 you know, a part of the train wreck here in the Kenny payn 362 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.680 Eric Kenny. Obviously, my man's making a lot of money, getting paid 363 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.480 more than Pat Kelsey's gonna get paid this next year to to not coach Louisville, 364 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.240 and then he's also getting paid nine hundred thousand a year to coach with 365 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.720 kal at Arkansas. So what a fraud man, I mean, what a 366 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:34.680 what a bum? I can't help myself. You mentioned the train wreck. 367 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.039 I think we should refer to it as the Titanic from now. Yeah, 368 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.920 because that's what he called because he did it. And by the way, 369 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:45.720 like I'm cool with what Pat Kelsey said when he got introduced, because that's 370 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:51.680 just a stand up thing to do. And that's too you know, nobody 371 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:56.119 could claim that Kelsey was, you know, doing what Kenny did, blaming 372 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:00.240 everything else on someone else, right, and you know it was just a 373 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.400 respectful thing to do. But I mean, Kenny, Kenny sucks, dude. 374 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:10.559 I mean, didn't still blame everybody else. The only coach I know 375 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.400 of that wanted to keep coaching that left a job, got fired from a 376 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:18.400 job that didn't give you the typical post, right, the graphic thank you 377 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.480 so much for my time. Wish it would you know, he didn't even 378 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.440 have to write it. Somebody write it for him, posting on his own 379 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:29.599 Twitter, because like, you know, just he's he still believes that he 380 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.519 well, I don't know, he probably still believes he was a good head 381 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:38.799 coach and we know that's not true. But in his mind, the utter 382 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.440 disaster that was the two years he was the coach is everybody else's fault but 383 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:48.119 his, and I I'll never forget it, not just the two years. 384 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:49.599 I mean, I want to forget that, and I will once we get 385 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:55.319 rolling with Pat Kelsey. But being live on the radio hearing his last press 386 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:56.799 conference, the last time we heard him talk when they lost in the ACEC 387 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.799 Tournament, I mean we were building up to it, if you remember, 388 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.880 right, John Long, like five hours on the radio. We were building 389 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.720 up to it because you know, we knew it was probably gonna be the 390 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:10.960 last game. We knew it was, and you know, what's he going 391 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:12.799 to do? And I kept thinking like, Okay, you know it's going 392 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:17.839 to be a different press conference than typical because you know it's the end. 393 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.119 But then again, I kept telling myself the one thing I will say about 394 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.519 Kenny that isn't really a compliment, but it's just he was consistent from day 395 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:30.319 one, So me thinking like he might show a little bit of accountability and 396 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:37.799 might you know, be humble and be not even apologetic, but you know, 397 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:45.799 just you know, disappointed and you know, like have some accountability. 398 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.599 I guess it's the best word to use. Like it was foolish for me 399 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.559 to think that he was ever going to do that, because he was. 400 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.519 He never he never, he was he never showed any sign of that being 401 00:25:53.559 --> 00:26:00.079 anything any any part of him, so you know he's he's now at Arkansas 402 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.079 and you know, I'm sure he'll have cave there and talk about their previous 403 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:07.160 fan bases. That's a good question. I'd like to be a fly on 404 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:11.400 the wall just to hear that, but yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure 405 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:17.759 it comes up. And to be fair, Kenny's going to be loved because 406 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.720 he's not going to be the guy that gets any heat if they lose. 407 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:29.240 And with Cal he's on a honeymoon. Man. Like Arkansas fans are everywhere. 408 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.960 They're passionate, obsessed, and they feel like they hit the lottery, 409 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.119 which I'm not sure they did. You know, they got they got a 410 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:41.400 John Caliperry when things have clearly faded into the the you know, they're not 411 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.759 so good part of his career. But yeah, anyways, Kenny's at Arkansas 412 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:52.160 and Danny Manning was hired by Tad Boyle yesterday at Colorado, which Danny, 413 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:53.920 you know a lot of people meant, you know, bring out like what 414 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.880 did he ever? Do? You know? He's lazy, didn't do anything. 415 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.559 He was just here to get a check. And I don't I've met 416 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.880 Danny Manning one time before he was here at Louisville. I interviewed him actually 417 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.079 whenever I was doing the a SEC basketball media day. He was a really 418 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.359 really nice It was nice to me. And also was around him and Chris 419 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.599 Mack together in Charlotte for that and it was not an interview, it was 420 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.720 just kind of, you know, I was kind of just around honestly when 421 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.319 they were and you know, everybody in the ACC from what I understand, 422 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.240 thinks he's a great man, Like he's a good dude. Not not sure 423 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.240 how good of a coach he is. He had some decent success here and 424 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:30.319 there at wake Forest, and then it completely fell apart. He had a 425 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:37.039 decent run at Tulsa, but towards the end I think I don't know if 426 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:42.359 it was Danny, but it started to get out that like coaches on Kenny's 427 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:47.200 staff were like done acting like you know, they supported Kenny, you know 428 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:48.279 what I mean, like they're still working for him. But you know, 429 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.799 I think Danny's the one who just my opinion, I think Danny was letting 430 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.759 some folks know, like hey, just so you know, like Kenny doesn't 431 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.440 do this. He doesn't even talk to his staff like and it's because it's 432 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.440 ridiculous. So, you know, I don't have a bad impression. I 433 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.960 mean, I put it this way. Did Danny Manning do anything good for 434 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.920 Louisville. No, But I don't feel like he's responsible for it. I 435 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:14.880 mean, technically, you know, he was hired by Kenny So Nolan Smith. 436 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.079 I don't know if this is official, but I do believe it came 437 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:25.079 from Trillie Donovan and he's usually right. But Nolan Smith is believed to be 438 00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:30.799 joining the staff at Central Florida, and that means he'll be coaching under Johnny 439 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:40.519 Dawkins. So I genuinely was sad to see the way things went with Nolan 440 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:45.039 now towards the end when he I think, really just you know, I 441 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.480 mean, it was hard. I don't feel bad for him, but that 442 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:51.599 could have been a phenomenal story. His father played here, a legendary player 443 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.920 tragically passed away. You know, Nolan was not around Louisville a lot as 444 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.920 a kid because his dad was playing professionally, and he grew up I believe 445 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:02.559 you grew up in DC, and you know, he was a legendary player 446 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.039 coming up. He was a McDonald's America, one of the best players in 447 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:08.960 the country and ends up going to Duke and had a great career there and 448 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.200 went onto the NBA, was drafted in the first round, had a bright 449 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.119 future as a coach, and he got to Louisville and I just I don't 450 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.519 know, man, he to me, just my opinion, he was very 451 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:26.119 immature about some things, just really childish about just some of the social media 452 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.079 interaction with fans and some of the things he I mean, to me, 453 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.480 he just seemed very unprofessional at times and childish, which is just not something 454 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:34.519 I would have expected. But he is young. I mean, well he's 455 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:38.119 my age. But you know, that's just a bummer. And you know, 456 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.640 I think he has himself to blame for it for the most part. 457 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.279 But he also didn't have a great leader. I mean Kenny Payne. I 458 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.720 told this to somebody that wanted to talk U of l basketball with me at 459 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:56.440 Derby. You know, with Kenny, I think there's a long, long, 460 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:02.319 long, long list of things you can highlight that were a factor in 461 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:06.599 this being a failure. But I think the root of it is that he's 462 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.200 not a leader like he did. He's not a leader. He's a buddy 463 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.799 type coach and he's great with relationships and things like that. But he's not 464 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:17.279 a leader in any way, and you have to be a leader to be 465 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.519 That's what you are as a coach. You are a leader, the leader, 466 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.640 and everybody leads differently. You enough to do it, you know, 467 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.079 same way as everybody else. But like he just didn't have any leadership qualities, 468 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.480 and I think that impacted everything. And probably Nolan a guy who was 469 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:32.079 very green, who had only worked under the guy who he played for, 470 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:34.079 who was one probably one of the better leaders you'll ever see in basketball. 471 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:38.759 And his name is Mike Shesky. So I hope this was a learning experience 472 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:45.079 from Nolan. I wouldn't be shocked if he believes that like Louisville, you 473 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.640 know, was the problem and he'll never come back here, Like I don't 474 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.880 know, maybe he thinks that. But Johnny Dawkins is a really good man 475 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.799 and he has been in Nolan's life since Nolan was a baby. So Derek 476 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.920 Smith, Nolan's father, was on the Saint, was on the Sixers uh 477 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.039 with with Johnny Dawkins for I believe a few years and they became really close. 478 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:12.000 There's actually an ESPN article about that from years back that show a picture 479 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:17.480 of baby Nolan with Johnny Dawkins. So I actually feel like this is a 480 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.319 perfect situation for him to get a fresh start to learn and you know, 481 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.480 work with a great guy who, by all accounts, Johnny Dawkins is that. 482 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.839 So this this is, this is to be honest with you for what 483 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.799 he's accused of doing. You know the leak where he was the one basically 484 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.920 telling everyone he was telling some some you know U of L. The school 485 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.720 itself did an investigation. This was an Eric Crawford article that came out around 486 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.279 the time Kenny was fired that kind of got I won't say it get lost 487 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.119 in the shuffle, but I mean it's pretty substantial piece of information here. 488 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:53.759 U of L during the Christmas break did an investigation. The school did to 489 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:59.240 try to figure out who was telling national media members that Kenny was fired and 490 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:00.880 that there was already going to be an interim in place and it was going 491 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:07.480 to be Nolan. That investigation that you all conducted concluded that Nolan Smith was 492 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:12.200 the one doing that. You can't do that, like, that's no head 493 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.119 coach would hire you other than somebody who's known you your whole life and loves 494 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.000 you and wants to help you, like once, to help you get you 495 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.880 know, get your you know, get your career back on track. I 496 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.000 don't think there's another G five program that would have hired him as an assistant 497 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.720 coach other than Johnny Dawkins, who their UCFS now in the Big twelve. 498 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:37.119 So I don't wish, you know, I don't wish ill will on Nolan 499 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.160 and all and wishing well on anybody, but like you know, I was 500 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:43.880 sad to because that could have been really cool, that could have been really 501 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.119 special. And to be fair, he wasn't the head coach. He's not 502 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:51.839 the reason that Louisville was awful. And in fact, I said this, 503 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.160 I mean you heard me say this a few times John, and I'm sure 504 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.000 it sticks out like a sore thumb because it's actually a complimentary thing about that 505 00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:05.039 staff. They won four games, was it in year one? And Nolan 506 00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.559 was the recruiter that brought in a top five class now in il help, 507 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.519 there's no doubt about that. But Nolan was the key recruiter on every one 508 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:16.000 of those guys. That means he can recruit, so hopefully he can get 509 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.680 you know, get things back on track. But I just I was surprised 510 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.440 to see how childish or naive he was to think, like, dude, 511 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.640 like you're you're at Louisville, man, Like you should know this because you 512 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:32.319 came from Duke. Like there's gonna be a whole people on the internet, 513 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.119 and like you can't go back and forth with him. You and your wife 514 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:42.039 can't engage in fights with with fans who are anonymous online, like card Dude 515 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:46.559 forty five is not worth your time, brother, Like, and you do 516 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.400 it once and people are just gonna keep doing it to get the reaction out 517 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.000 of you. And like that just blew my mind that Like he didn't get 518 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.519 that, so I'm not sure it would have made any difference as far as 519 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.680 results. But the only coach that I don't think has landed anywhere is Josh 520 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:04.440 Jansen, who still not sure what that guy did. I mean, he 521 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.239 came from Oregon, was not an assistant coach. But yeah, I'm not 522 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.760 sure where he'll end up, but hopefully he can. Let he lands on 523 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.599 his feet somewhere. All Right, We'll take our last break here, come 524 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.280 back on the other side, keep this thing rolling along at his Coffee and 525 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:22.559 Company. Feel Beth Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. So this 526 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:29.679 is probably not surprising to anybody because Davo Sweeney Clemson said coach has been very 527 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:35.960 upfront about this being anti portal. But as as we get, I guess 528 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.360 closer to the portal closing for I guess it has closer football and there's still 529 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.800 guys out there that if you had to make a decision, but a lot 530 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.599 of the dust to settle a lot of the you know, a lot of 531 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:49.000 the rosters are pretty close to being finished at this point, and Clemson's the 532 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:53.239 only school on the power for level that did not take a single transfer in 533 00:34:53.360 --> 00:35:00.639 the twenty twenty four cycle. So not surprising knowing Dabo has been very adamant 534 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.679 about it. But I almost feel like that's that's you not doing your job. 535 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.840 I mean, I guess you're not required to do things a certain way, 536 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.599 but like that's what this is now, Like do they have like a 537 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.559 large number of open scholarships? They lost eight players and didn't add anybody. 538 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.760 They only added freshmen, So I mean, yeah, I'm sure they have 539 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.960 scholarships open. Like that's I mean, is that is that almost like not 540 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.519 doing your job? I mean, if it makes firing him if they are 541 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.320 unsuccessful, very easy. I feel like it's a good point, Like it's 542 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.880 hard to imagine they'd ever do that, but like I don't know, Like 543 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.960 I think, not filling your scholarships because you don't believe in bringing in players 544 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.960 via the portal, yet players are leaving your program via the portal, Like 545 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.000 that's I think, that's not I mean, that's not doing your job. 546 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.760 So yeah, I mean, actually they lost twelve transfers, so that's a 547 00:35:54.760 --> 00:36:00.400 lot. And you're curious if he'll just go find random freshmen to fill or 548 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.119 if he's just going to leave those scholarships open, Like I can't imagine. 549 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.480 I mean, he's leaving them open. Who else is he gonna go get? 550 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.840 And they already were very like when he was recruiting, when the portal 551 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.760 didn't exist, they they were very I think impressive how they recruited because they 552 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.000 they didn't offer a lot of guys, but they got just about everybody they 553 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.760 wanted. Like they went really all in in certain with certain guys and didn't 554 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.840 you know, didn't have a lot of backup options that if this guy didn't 555 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:29.880 commit, and they usually you know, Clemson was rolling for a little while 556 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.840 there like there was a time where it felt like Clemson was in fact not 557 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.480 just neck and neck with Bama, but they had the edge there a little 558 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:42.480 bit. And that hasn't like they're not terrible. In fact, they've actually 559 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.159 still been good compared to like just about everybody else, but they had such 560 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:53.360 momentum and now they're just kind of, you know, they're good. But 561 00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.280 I almost feel like for some reason, even when they are, like let's 562 00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.599 say they win the ACC this year, like they still aren't going to be 563 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:04.239 looked at like they were before. And am I crazy to think that they're 564 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:09.159 gonna start like the perception like it matters right the buzz off season, that 565 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.519 kind of stuff, hype, that's where the hype is generated. When you're 566 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.559 not adding dudes in the portal, you're not getting any hype, Like they're 567 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.159 just kind of out there existing. Doesn't mean you can't be good. Maybe 568 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.400 they're great this year, but that's another part of it, Like you're you're, 569 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.280 you're losing a little bit of relevance in the in the mix of the 570 00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.360 you know, the you know, the high end of college football because you're 571 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.079 you're you're you're not mentioned because you're not active in the portal. I mean 572 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.920 they went nine and four last year, eleven and three, ten and three 573 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.000 the year before that. I mean, look, they last year was the 574 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.320 first year they didn't win double digit games since twenty ten. So like, 575 00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.880 if they keep taking steps backwardly, if that turned into seven and then six 576 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.480 and like they like, where he's really screwed himself is the quarterback position, 577 00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:00.519 because that's been a savior for a lot of these coaches, right, And 578 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.079 you know, if he's if a guy he recruits out of high school, 579 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:09.480 like if he's got a if he's got a dude who's a sophomore or junior 580 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:14.719 like dj Ulele and he stinks and he's leaving and transferring, You're not just 581 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:15.800 going to go to one of the dudes you brought in and hasn't played and 582 00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:21.199 if he sucks, then like you're screwed. That's just it's it's a level 583 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.559 of stubbornness that I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure I've seen that 584 00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:29.199 before this in college football. But all right, we're out of time. 585 00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:30.679 Everybody, have a good night. Talk to you tomorrow.