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The podcast Journalista tells the improbable life
story of Courtney cookie Hood Fellow Cookies adventures

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from working for CBS News in Managua
during the Nicaraguan Civil War to blewing the

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lid off the Iran Contra scandal and
almost taking down the Reagan presidency. They're

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assuming that I know what I'm doing, that I'm a journalist. I wasn't.

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I was being thrown into the coliseum
to the lions, had not a

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clue. Listen to Journalista on the
iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your

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podcasts. Bill Cunningham, the Great
America. Lets continue whenever stop to simply

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continue. Here we are in August, and the weather is hot, in

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fact in the desert, a drill
hot in August. But nonetheless the medium

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against every broadcast with a weather report, and no matter where it is,

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whether it's David mu or Lesterhold,
whatever it is, all they talk about

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is weather. And we do know
that Al Gore left the vice presidency more

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or less a pro man, having
lost a George Bush in twenty oh one

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by one or two electoral votes,
despite the efforts of Democrats to have the

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elector switch, which today's a crime, but that's a different issue. Now

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he's a multi zillionaire because he hooked
onto inconvenient truths about the weather and about

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the climate. And now we know
that windmills and solar panels are the key

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to human life, that if you
don't have a windmill, if you don't

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have a solar panel, you're all
going to die. Even though Ford Motor

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Company has lost something like seven billion
dollars on evs and making money unleted gasoline

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internal combustion engines, we do know
lots of money is in green in fact,

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lots of moneys in the gold.
Now we find out that off the

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coast of the United States there's large
numbers of whales and other mammals washing up

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on shore and the windmills of Indiana
and Kansas there are literally billions of birds

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that are killed every year, which
has the unintended consequences of hurting crops and

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all the mosquitoes, etc. A
man who's written about this is Craig Rocker,

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President of Sea Fact. Craig Rocker, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And first of all, Craig,
can you tell the American people in

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general, where is the so called
environmental movement today and what part of it

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is true and what part of it
is false. Well, I would honestly

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say that, and thank you for
having me on the show. Bill.

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I would say that there are kind
of a bifurcation. That's a big word,

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but there's a split in the environmental
movement today. You have those who

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are the mainstream, the big boys, the environmental defense funds, the green

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pieces, Sierra Clubs, those organizations. When it comes to some of the

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environmental impacts of this, particularly renewable
energy, they're all crickets. You can

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hear nothing. And that's probably because
a lot of these groups receive big dollars

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from those who are putting in solar
and wind farms. On the other hand,

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those on the grass roots level actually
are concerned about these things and are

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in dismay over the direction that's of
these big groups are doing. Because as

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evidence is coming out that wind farms
are chopping up birds and bats, endangered

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eagles and the like, and what
you know, the offshore wind is possibly

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harming whales and dolphins and other marine
mammals. You know, this is actually

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making this split in the environmental movement
more apparent, and I think for moving

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forward, it's going to be very
interesting to see what actually happens there.

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Well, what's going to happen is
we're going to continue. I'm kind of

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waiting for the Sierra Club to go
after Greta Thunberg and others to eat their

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own because one cannot imagine talk about
the commercial fishermen off the east coast of

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this great country of ours that are
being chased out of business with these with

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these windmills in the middle of the
ocean. It hurts the views, which

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those are Motha's Vineyard don't like.
But nonetheless, what is the damage to

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the marine life which you would think
the environmentalists would be all off about.

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The whales are washing up on shore, there's sonar abilities are being disrupted.

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I can't imagine how many millions of
fish are being being killed and how many

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billions of birds are being filled killed. But why do you think that the

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environmental movement ignores the damage done by
the environmental movement. Well, there's actually

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an article written by this in a
Los Angeles newspaper recently that they say,

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maybe some species you may have to
be eliminated for the greater cause of climate.

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And what you're seeing right now as
a BIDE administration has this program to

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put thirty thousand megawatts of offshore energy
in place by twenty thirty, and no

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doubt they're listening to the likes of
AOC who said, we have only until

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twenty thirty until the end happens.
But they're going to be putting in one

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thousand, five hundred gigantic wind turbines
about fifteen to thirty miles off of our

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coast. Well, these are right
in the lanes of a number oft migrating

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whales up and down the East coast, and the noise and vibrations many are

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starting the wink to why we're having
an unprecedented number of whales beaching themselves,

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some say upwards of four hundred percent
since twenty sixteen, really when they started

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the sonar blasting and mapping of the
ocean floor to put them in, and

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today they're doing a pile driving where
they use these loud hydraulic hammers to put

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them in. But even once they're
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the turbulence that they can create when
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wall, hurting the sonar activity.
Because of course these are marine mammals that

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get their direction from sonar, and
this could be three hundred and sixty five

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days a year, you know,
twenty four to seven where they're actually having

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their direction messed up with and they
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If this was an oil platform,
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So as far as the wind turbines, when I think of a wind turbine,

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I don't see a huge structure.
Can you describe the size one thousand,

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five hundred additional wind turbines killing millions
of mammals and also billions of birds?

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What are the size of each one
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they? They're varying in size,
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in the air to about seven hundred
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air to their motor. When you
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you're looking at over a thousand feet. Now, to put that in

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perspective, the Washington Monument is only
about five hundred and fifty feet tall,

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So these are about, you know, just about double the size. When

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you include the turbine and the spinning
portion together, they're massive, and in

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fact, the biggest ones in the
world. They're supposed to be put in

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off of Virginia, and that's why
we and some of our allies are going

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to try and sue to stop that, so they at least do a proper

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environmental impact statement before they PLoP these
things down right in the middle of where

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you have. You know, some
of these marine mammals are very threatened.

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You have the right whale. It's
not called right because of its political affiliation.

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I guess whale hunters thought it was
right for blubber and oil back in

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the eighteen hundreds. But the right
whale, there's only three hundred and fifty

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of them left. They're critically endangered
species, and nobody seems to care.

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On the environmental movement. Why can
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would think Greta Thunberg would attach herself
to one of these wind turbines, maybe

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throw tomato soup at it. Well. Why does the environmental movement New York

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Times, Washington Post ignore the damage
caused by environmentalists to the environment. Why

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does the media ignore it? I
would say twofold reason for that. I

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would say number one is a lot
of them are on the take to get

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money from the renewable energy industry.
It's big business. There's a lot of

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money to be had in this thing. The second reason is because they are

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bought and sold on the idea that
the world's going to explode and come to

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an end, despite the mounting evidence
that climate hype is closely exaggerated, if

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not completely fabricated in a lot of
cases with some of the claims they make,

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and they feel that the ends justify
the means, you know, I

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mean, Greta Thunberg actually made a
prediction back in twenty eighteen the world would

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end in five years on Twitter,
and she just took that down because the

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five years has come and went,
and actually, there's life goes on.

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It's not a whole lot different.
And of course others have made such claims

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as well, and the dates have
come and gone. They just moved the

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dates up, and it's almost like
people forget that. They keep car crying

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apocalypse and it has yet to emerge. And what is the value of wind

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turbines when it comes to the production
of clean electricity? By the way,

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nuclear power plants are much more efficient, put many more people to work,

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and has no environmental damage. You
take natural gas and fracking puts to work

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hundreds of thousands of middle class Americans. It's the cleanest source of energy this

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side of nuclear power. Natural gas
has been a revolution as far as cleaning

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up the environment. Well, how
much electricity are we talking about? Of

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course, the cost of that is
the natural world as being destroyed by the

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environmentalist. But any idea how much
electricity is actually produced by these wind turbines.

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It depends where you are in the
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as high as anywhere from ten to
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that are aggressive, other places much
lower, but they do pay an enormous

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cost for that, as do nations
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take like Denmark, for example,
the citizens there paying about thirty five cents

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a killowatt hour. It's approaching forty
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Americans pay about ten to twelve cents
a killer one hour. So the more

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you have renewable energy, the more
it jacks up the cost. Plus it

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de stabilizes the grid because it's intermittent
power. It does produce energy when the

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wind is blowing, but you need
backup and so what winds up happening is

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you have these natural gas plants that
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at any moment to crank it up
and cover for wind. Wind energy

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isn't producing anything, and that cranking
up of natural gas actually admits a lot

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of CO two. So even though
they're putting this in and allegedly try and

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lower CO two emissions, in truth, it's hardly limiting them at all because

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they actually wind up, yeah,
you know, having the backup power,

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and that backup power winds up having
to spew more CO two out in order

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to cover wind's butt. And before
we talk about evs and solar panels,

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is there an idea among the so
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the educated ones, the ones who
use the proper prefects this pronouns those who

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run our society. Any apprehension at
this point in August of twenty twenty three,

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relative to these wind turbines, that
we're on the wrong track. We

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got to stop doing this because it
is being funded by the federal government.

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The Green New Deal is being funded
through the Inflation Protection Act, both of

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which are misnomers. Is there any
apprehension that this has got to change,

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that we're on the wrong course,
that we're killing mammals, we're killing birds,

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where changing the environment, that our
movement is causing damage to the environment,

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we're hurting what we're seeking to help. Is there any idea that the

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gretted Thunbergs and the Sierra Clubs and
the al Gore types do they now know

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they're on the wrong track. Well, there have been some, and I

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point out people like Michael Schellenberger,
who was once charge of there Obama putting

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in the Green New Deal. He's
now come out and done in about face.

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Meredith Anglin, she's written a book
now and she is understanding renewals aren't

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doing that. You have Steve coon
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it used to be on the left
and now on the right saying that you

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know, much of the climate hype
is overblown, but this push for renewables

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is actually bad news for the environment. But by and large, most of

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the utilities and the public utilities commissions
and the industry is seeing dollar signs.

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They don't nobody's really managing the grid
in a strategic fashion because thunder of dollars

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are out there and you get certain
perks for putting this in and if people

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have to in their covered because the
ratepayers pick up the tab. So as

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long as the businesses are profiting,
it's not really a market situation. You

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have no choice but to get the
energy from where you're getting it in most

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cases, and they're making money at
it. So no, they aren't really

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taking charge of the grid. And
many experts feel our grid is poised to

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collapse unless somebody starts taking charge.
You should be the job of Burt or

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Nook some of these federal agencies.
But there, you know, they just

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seem to be blinded to everything is
looked for with climate change lenses nowadays,

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Creig Rucker. It's an old principle
of government that when you fund something,

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you get more of it. When
you tax something, you get less of

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it. And because of what Joe
Biden has done with giving out money to

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wind turbines and solar panels, you
get more of it irrespect of the value

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it brings to the environment. Now, lastly, on electric vehicles, a

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guy named Farley runs a Ford motor
company. He admits they lose every year

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billions and billions of dollars in creating
these electric vehicles without their power stations without

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their power grid to support it,
and we have no way of getting rid

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of literally billions of individual solar panels
once their use has been completed. Tell

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the American people about solar panels and
how much electricity they produce and what happens

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when this one doesn't shine and the
wind done blow so well, solar energy

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one to three percent of our electricity
production. They're very non efficient. They

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have not shown themselves ready for prime
time. Very disturbing about them is well,

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first, they can only be used
in limited places where it is a

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lot of sunshine generally speaking, but
they actually are composed of minerals that are

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rare earth, minerals that have to
be mined in other countries that don't have

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the pollution standards nor the human rights
standards. We get a lot of the

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materials from the Congo, for example, where they use child labor, or

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from China, which seems to have
a corner on the market for the rare

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earth that we use for solar panels, and they use weaker labor slave labor

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in order to get it. And
of course there are strategic enemy so by

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going solar, we actually have serious
national security interests that are at stake here

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and really from our perspective, it's
a you know, has not shown itself

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ready for prime time and is just
an energy source that I think again taps

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of the federal dollars, nobody would
be pursuing. When you fund bad policy,

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you get more of it. I
had a guest on two months ago

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that talked about what happens to Congolese
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in order to with their bare hands, often use their fingertips to pick up

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rare earth minerals, putting on their
backpacks and then marching out of the mines

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twelve hours a day, six days
a week. And the communist Red Chinese

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have bought off the leadership of the
Congo with millions of dollars, taking billions,

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and those rare earth minerals make their
way to the coast, make their

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way then to China, then they
come into the solar panels we now use.

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I could not imagine if America had
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years old reporting to mines every day
in West Virginia, digging with their fingers

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for earth minerals. How long that
would last? But as long as as

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long as it is a black kid
in the Congo. The liberals don't care,

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do they no, And in fact, they get excellent ESG scores,

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that's Environmental Social Governance scores. The
companies that are involved in redewable energy are

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looked at as you know, captains
of industry and you know, the ones

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that we ought to be following.
It's it's actually kind of infuriating. We've

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actually confronted Black Rock and Vanguard at
some of their shareholder meetings about this,

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trying to put in a resolution to
say, hey, we won't do business

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with companies that are involved themselves in
these sorts of things, and they've basically

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shot it down every time. So
you know, I and you know they're

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very far left, and they don't
seem to really care about human rights or

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the environment when it really comes down
to it. They care about pursuing big

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government policies, policies that empower China
at our expense and pollute the environment.

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It'd be interesting if Obama and Oprah
Winfrey would leave their Martha Vineyards mansions and

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take up the calls of black kids
in Congo being killed to mind these rare

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earth minerals to benefit the communist red
Chinese. Wouldn't that be interesting if Oprah,

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Winfrey and Michelle cared about the black
kids being killed in the Congo,

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wouldn't that be good? Well said
yeah. And of course they're very involved

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in trying to shut down wood bared
pizza ovens and telling us we have to

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get rid of gas stoves, barbecue
grills. Yeah, that's the problem,

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things that work. And I suspect
that they don't actually believe any of these

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regulations apply to them. Lastly,
we have about twenty seconds remaining. Craig

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ruck or what is your website if
any of people want to become informed and

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not robots? Yes it is.
You can reach us at CFaCT dot org.

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Thatt c fact dot rg. Craig
Rucker, great review, Thank you

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very much for the information. Thank
you, thanks for having me on.

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God bless you. All Right,
let's continue with more. You're being warned,

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you're being educated. What will you
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