WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:14.000 Yo, you go be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's 2 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:17.120 do this for April twelve, twenty twenty four. For the next hour or 3 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:20.079 so, let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess 4 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:24.960 Mornings Live with me Jeff Greb. Today, Destiny's tenure plan was all leading 5 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:29.839 to this. That's right, Destiny three and Mike yep Bara wants us to 6 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:33.640 give more money so corporations could pay developers more. But first, please join 7 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.880 me and welcome me. Today's co host to Game Mess Mornings. It's Derek 8 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.159 van Dijk from the Super Ducks Games podcast. Derek, how's it going, 9 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:44.359 Hi, It's going wonderful. How about yourself on this beautiful morning. I'm 10 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.479 doing good. I'm actually doing pretty good. It was a little bit rainy, 11 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.679 but I like the rain, so I agree. Beautiful morning. I 12 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:55.399 took the kids to school, came back. I was getting Fallout four modded 13 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:57.600 to hell so Mike can play that later. That's what we're going to do 14 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.399 for our stream later today. I like, I ended up paying like the 15 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:06.599 premium price for for Nexus mods just so their Vortex app it would work faster 16 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:08.359 because I was going through one by one and installing these mods, and at 17 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.239 the end, I installed over one hundred mods. So like the five dollars 18 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:17.239 differently work hit it easily worth it a lot of imagine trying to burn through 19 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.280 that many. Look, I love Nexus Mods. I cannot imagine. I'm 20 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.959 a one, one thing at a time kind of guy. So yeah, 21 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.120 spend your five bucks. Yes, yes, I'll be the one person paying 22 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.799 for Nexus Mods exactly. Yeah. So I got that ready to go. 23 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.120 I think I got the game running. It did take the initial load did 24 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.439 take a really long time. So I'm like, oh boy, I hope 25 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:40.439 this doesn't break. You never know, you put you put that much customization 26 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.480 on it, bethesday game. I mean, you're just kind of crossing your 27 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:45.640 fingers and paying every time, and we'll see what happens, honestly. I 28 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.040 mean I I installed all these mods. We probably won't interact with like ninety 29 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.200 percent of them, but who knows, we'll see what happens. Uh. 30 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:55.840 That's that's later today though, But for now, Like, Derek, how 31 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:57.599 have you been doing? Like, how's how's gaming treating you? How's the 32 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.760 podcast going? How's everything? You know, everything's been great? Of course, 33 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:07.199 Like it's it's I'm still riding high from my return to Packs East because 34 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:12.759 I spent yeah, four years not doing any of the in person stuff and 35 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:15.919 just running the podcast everything remotely. So getting back into it, getting back 36 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.080 to like doing interviews, doing the hustle, meeting up with people, meeting 37 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.960 you in person for the first time instead of just over over text or camera 38 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.199 was lovely and I'm still just riding high off that. Also, like Dragon's 39 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.719 Dogma two came out and I'm your timeline's second biggest Dragons Dogma sicco after Wout. 40 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:37.000 So I mean, I've been doing great. I'm glad to hear that. 41 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.400 I'm glad that you that you're living in your time and it's it's finally 42 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:44.560 come. You deserved it, you earned it for sure. Yeah, it 43 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.800 was great to meet you. It was great to uh, I don't know 44 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.960 coming back from Pax East what was really invigorating invigorating? I know everybody seemed 45 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.800 to have had a lot of good energy coming back from that, so it 46 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.360 was helpful because you know, the the vibes online were and have been bad. 47 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.280 It's just it's been off. You know, clearly people are in their 48 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:05.120 feelings about a number of things. I still think presidential elections get people like 49 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.719 up in their head in a lot of ways, and now it's just making 50 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.719 everything worse. And so going online or going in real life to see a 51 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.479 bunch of people who are like, oh, everyone's just really cool, like 52 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.919 everyone's like human beings where they actually want to talk about this stuff in person, 53 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.439 it's because they actually care and they're not just some some weirdo trying to 54 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.719 start a culture war. And so it was like a very helpful thing at 55 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:29.599 the very right time for me. So and it was fantastic, had a 56 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.439 good time it. It turns out when you put a bunch of people together 57 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:36.479 at the same time, I'm trying not to get distracted that for some reason, 58 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.479 my camera keeps putting the frame around my face, which it has not 59 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:43.240 done ever. So I don't know why that's happening. I'm very sorry for 60 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.000 those watching. I'm just going to try not to get distracted. But I 61 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.599 like it. It makes it makes it feel like I'm playing the Derek VANDK 62 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.360 video. It's just like you just go here. But yeah, no, 63 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.560 it turns out when you put people together, a lot of the like awkwardness 64 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.759 and a lot of the weird vibes melt away. It's a good reminder. 65 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.879 Yes it's important. And then I come back home, I'm like, oh 66 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.240 man, I love being a home and working remote, not having to deal 67 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.159 with all that stuff constantly. But it's like, you know, every couple 68 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:15.400 of months getting together with people rules. So and with that mind, I'm 69 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.040 like continually and now putting together Summer game Fest and oh yeah it's gonna be 70 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.959 that's gonna be great as well. But it's not that far away, so 71 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:24.759 we're already getting back into it. Uh, you know what, I should 72 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.680 explain what we do here most weekdays, I, Jeff Grub, will help 73 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.360 you piece your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even 74 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:34.040 some of our own original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the 75 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.199 input of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. If you 76 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.839 are watching live on twitch welcome, You can always listen to the show later 77 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.360 on podcast feeds by searching for game Mes Mornings, or find the RSS on 78 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:48.120 Giant Bond dot com. You could also catch the show later with chapters and 79 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:53.839 timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, we have a lot to 80 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:58.120 get into, so let's start the morning mess with Destiny to leak your claims 81 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.240 sequel is in development and it's code named Payback. This is from Moises ta 82 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:05.600 Veris, one of the Nasty boys at Kutaku. Earlier this week, Bunge 83 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:11.720 unveiled most of the major features included in Destiny two's upcoming expansion, The Final 84 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.279 Shape, including a new enemy faction, an exotic class item that allows players 85 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.439 to mix and match game changing perks, and most importantly, a chaotic new 86 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:26.079 subclass called Prismatic that similarly combines previous Light and Dark subclasses. Goes on to 87 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.000 talk about Destiny two, but the bigger deal in what has currently set the 88 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.000 Destiny to community a light is the second half of the user's statement, where 89 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.720 they state that Destiny three is in development and that the game will take Prismatic 90 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:40.439 a step further, moving away from subclasses entirely. According to them, the 91 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.319 leaker, Destiny three, which is reportedly codenamed Payback, has been in the 92 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.120 works at Bungee, though they aren't sure of its current status at the moment. 93 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:50.439 Last they heard it was doing a way with subclasses entirely, which is 94 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.639 in a far fetched theory considering the realities of Prismatic. Bungie likened it to 95 00:05:55.720 --> 00:06:00.519 an advanced subclass during its presentation, But the ramifications of multi col lasting and 96 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.120 the build craft options that Prismatic produces or introduces almost feel like they have to 97 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:09.839 be the foundation for a new deeper system in the future. Voice this goes 98 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.920 on here for the Destiny heads and provides a lot of details, but you 99 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.120 know, let's kind of talk to the high level stuff first, Derek. 100 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:19.279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like Destiny two is really finally actually at that 101 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:24.560 endpoint for the ten year plan for Destiny, which of course didn't go as 102 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:26.399 planned. You know, you only have a plan as long as you get 103 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.079 to get punched in the face, right, And that definitely happened with Destiny 104 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:30.600 early on, and they responded, they made a bunch of changes, and 105 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:33.519 they eventually did put out Destiny two. The reality is, I think that 106 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:40.000 they are sort of winding down this idea of the original like launch ideas for 107 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:42.600 Destiny that did turn into Destiny two, and it's been years and years of 108 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:44.959 updates, and now I think they finally are at a point where it's like, 109 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.439 hmm, Destiny three could and should happen. Now that doesn't mean it's 110 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:53.800 happening like next year, even it's it's probably a ways away still, but 111 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.600 would you be excited for Destiny three? And what do you think it needs 112 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.720 to be? God, it's crazy, right because like two feels so ever 113 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:06.800 present, and the idea of trying to follow up any of the small handful 114 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:14.639 of massive like online service games that dominate the industry feels terrifying, especially in 115 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:18.839 the wake of like Overwatch to basically destroying Overwatch. Ye. One thing that 116 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:23.680 I do think helps is at least for Destiny's player base, Like, this 117 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.720 is not the first time we've done this, right, We've moved from Destiny 118 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:32.600 one to Destiny to already. The idea of throwing plus one onto that number 119 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:38.279 is not unheard of. That Plus, the way that Destiny to has like 120 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:42.839 gated off a lot of earlier like vanilla and earlier expansion like story content is 121 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.519 kind of like it doesn't feel like it may not feel like, I should 122 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:54.319 say, leaving behind the entirety of ten years of Destiny, right, it 123 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:59.600 kind of just feels like moving on to the next like foundation piece. So 124 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:05.519 like, I'm not a Destiny sicko, but I do think that Destiny's player 125 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:11.759 base is probably better primed to move on then would have been the case with 126 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.360 something like Overwatch. Yeah, I think it's obviously there's conflicting factors right that 127 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.600 where it's like, hey, the Destiny two has momentum, and like not 128 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.279 like that momentum of like, oh, it's so successful, you can't abandon 129 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.720 it. Not like that. It's like people know what to expect from Destiny 130 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.240 too. They can go in there with their friends and it's a safe bet 131 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.279 for how they spend their time. Asking people to like start from scratch again, 132 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.960 or however that transition would work for a Destiny three is always risky. 133 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.159 But I think they are probably like looking at the spreadsheets, they're looking at 134 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.440 the calculus of you know that that was true for a very long time. 135 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:50.799 We did not want to want to disrupt that momentum and the sort of network 136 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.480 effect that people had of I'm playing the game, I'm getting my friends to 137 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.559 play that game. Eventually, that does diminish to a point where Destiny three 138 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.240 makes a lot more sense, And I think they're trying to predict it and 139 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.519 time it out so that Destiny three can come out in a world where it's 140 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.919 like, well, obviously Destiny two has run its course. I think at 141 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.879 any point from like this point forward, that's going to be like, oh 142 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:13.320 yeah, Destiny two has run its course that Destiny three makes a ton of 143 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.679 sense, but they've been hesitant about about going to Destiny three. I think 144 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.159 for them it's like that is not worth it. They can get a lot 145 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:24.039 more out of a game like Destiny two for a lot longer than you know, 146 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.559 the way games used to work. So it's like, but I think 147 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.000 we're at the point where they've done that multiple times now and diminishing returns have 148 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.960 set in on these expansions. But who knows, maybe the final shape comes 149 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.919 out and Destiny two grows and into like the biggest it's ever been, something 150 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.080 we have seen with other similar games, and then that pushes Destiny three even 151 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.080 further out. But this is a team that has a Marathon also in the 152 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.480 works. Uh that's right, yeah, right, So it's like they have 153 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.519 to and marathon does seem like it's also kind of a ways off, but 154 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.639 it's also taken up a lot of their time. Uh, And I think 155 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:58.480 that would come out first and then they would do Destiny three. So I'm 156 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.440 like trying to figure out the timeline. You know, we're twenty twenty four 157 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.679 right now, marathon is what probably not twenty twenty five, So twenty twenty 158 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:11.200 six, I guess. And then then when does the Destiny three come out? 159 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.600 So it's like, Okay, we're actually looking at several more years of 160 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.159 Destiny two before we get there. But I think like laying the groundwork now 161 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.080 makes some sense where it's like, okay, people can brace themselves and get 162 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.679 them a little bit more out of Destiny two. In the meantime, I 163 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.399 think you have to. I think it is probably better obviously, like let 164 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:31.320 this final expansion like run some of its course. I think the sooner that 165 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:35.679 Bungee lays the groundwork, if if Destiny three is the direction they're going for, 166 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.360 if this is the time to move on to the next numbered entry and 167 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:45.879 start people from scratch, they the sooner they lay that groundwork, like openly 168 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.120 and transparently to people, the better, because obviously, anytime you are going 169 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:56.720 from one numbered piece of software to the next is the biggest point for people 170 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:00.720 to either jump off or on the train. Yeah, you know, and 171 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.519 I can imagine even if your Destiny right, even if you're a game that 172 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:09.000 defined this modern era of service games in so many ways, that's scary that's 173 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:15.559 intimidating to be looking down the barrel. So and I I just don't wonder 174 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.279 if they're like at a point where it's okay, yeah, we can see 175 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.759 those numbers, and we do know that there's a chance there's a people who 176 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.440 are waiting that were never going to either get back or they're never going to 177 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.799 try it because Destiny two is too intimate intimidating at this point, or there's 178 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.080 too much sunk cost in the opposite direction of like I see this game. 179 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.240 It's massive, it's it's complex. There's all these ins and outs that people 180 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.519 and all these experiences that people have, And why would I jump in now 181 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.519 when I could just jump in with a Destiny three. That's obviously why it 182 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.159 makes sense. I do wonder if, because it does still like all that 183 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:54.080 said Derek, if still somewhat feels like a bungeee reversal of their opinion on 184 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.879 this matter, where it's like, hey, we do have Destiny too. 185 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.279 Destiny two could kind of be forever if we wanted it to. I wonder 186 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:05.639 if there is any sort of pressure change from Sony leadership because we know that 187 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.960 a Bunchie's supposed to be running independently, but we know there's been some questions 188 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.799 about whether or not that's going to be possible with Bunchie not being able to 189 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.159 pay for itself, and so you know, Pete Parsons, the leadership over 190 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.360 there, has made a bunch of cuts and things like that. And I 191 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:20.399 wonder if they're like, hey, Destiny three is something we could like show 192 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:22.919 to Sony and be like, no, we have a plan for the future. 193 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:24.960 You don't need to come worry about us. Let us do this. 194 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.720 I wonder if that that is informing some of their decision making process here, 195 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.440 not that it wouldn't if they were independent, right, they'd still have to 196 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.960 make it bu Yeah the case, So I bet I but like there's no 197 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:41.039 way it's not when it's Sony, right like, especially with we know Sony 198 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.600 has kind of like quietly not not even quietly right like, because we've all 199 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:48.159 heard about the struggles they've had to try to pivot into like a very service 200 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.879 game dominated like direction and how that hasn't mostly worked out for them, And 201 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:58.559 Destiny is this like one very stable piece that both clearly defined that direction in 202 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.240 terms of where they wanted to go, and also is the only like one 203 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.480 of the rare examples of a game actually holding on Because games don't last. 204 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.200 Service games don't last as long as Destiny has. It's it's really very much 205 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:20.399 a rarity and the idea of taking it much longer. I totally understand the 206 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.080 idea of like, you know, hey, man like World of Warcraft and 207 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.080 Final Fantasy fourteen have made it way longer than this, So you know, 208 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:31.200 who's to say that Destiny too couldn't eventually hit those numbers. But like man, 209 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.639 the further into the outliers you're aiming, that's that's playing with fire. 210 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.919 So there's a there is a service game that has lasted much longer than Final 211 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:45.559 Fantasy fourteen or World of Warcraft. Actually, I think it is longer than 212 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.440 World Warcraft, and it's called Roadblocks two thousand and six. I think about 213 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:54.320 it all the time, so weird RuneScape secos. Yes, honestly, all 214 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.799 those games from that time, we're still going in one way or another. 215 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.039 God in Final Flights you Love it also has lasted longer. Sure, yes, 216 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.960 that's just that's just linear time. Though. Uh hey, I will 217 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.080 check in on Destiny three when it comes out. I'm probably not gonna play 218 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.320 Destiny two. Again, I've just accepted that. I mean, I don't 219 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:15.559 know if my like a group of friends suddenly's playing Destiny two all the time 220 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.440 and I have a lot more free time, that could happen, I suppose, 221 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:20.480 but I just know myself. I'm like, once Destiny three's here, 222 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.639 it gives offers that fresh start. That's when I'll check back in on this 223 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.799 series. And I think they're they're counting on that among a large audience to 224 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.759 finally come back to that that franchise with the third one. Yeah, all 225 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.919 right, let's move along here, pack while you you, while you say 226 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.919 this, I'm gonna briefly turn my camera around and kill camera and try to 227 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.120 kill Camera Square. I know, Chat, I know Chad is in love 228 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.080 with Camera Square right now. But it is s character giant bomb. It's 229 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.960 gonna get its own wiki entry. All right, I'll read this. You 230 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.240 go and work on that now. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh. The second 231 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:58.559 store here, pac Man Mega Tunnel Battle Chomp Champs, which is just poetry 232 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.440 of a name, has been for console and PC. This is from Jordan 233 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:07.360 Midler at VGC. It's an updated version of the sixty four player Battle Royale 234 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:11.840 game pac Man Mega Tunnel Battle which launched in twenty twenty for Stadiu but closed 235 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:16.000 down last year alongside Google's game streaming service. The online only game will be 236 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.840 available on May ninth for PS five, PS four, Xbox Series X and 237 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:24.679 S, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, and Steam. And here's a quote 238 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:30.320 here from the game's description. Eat your way through multiple interconnected mazes using power 239 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:35.039 pellets and various power items to chomp the ghosts and other packs. Be the 240 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.080 last pack standing at the end of the each sixty four player match to be 241 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.159 the chomp Champ. Reads the games description. All Right, I'm gonna try 242 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.879 to remember the name of this game. I just read it. It's a 243 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.840 lot of words. Pac Man Man, Mega Tunnel Battle, Yeah, Mega 244 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:56.120 Tunnel Battle, Derby No Battle Okay, Yeah, Battle okay, Mega Tunnel 245 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.879 Battle, Chomp Champs sixty four Turbo Edition. Hell of a name. I 246 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.919 did play this on Stadio when it was out on there. I guess this 247 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:10.240 is an updated version of that. It's okay, it's it's I'm hoping it 248 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.600 could do a lot better that it's on other platforms, but I don't know. 249 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:17.279 It doesn't have that like Battle Royale, Field of even like a F 250 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:21.360 zero ninety nine or even a Super Mario Brothers thirty five. Yeah, like 251 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:22.399 those ones, it's like, oh yeah, it felt like you're all competing. 252 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.039 This is like you're in your own maze and then you go over the 253 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:27.159 next maze. I mean, you do eat other pac Man, but it's 254 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:30.600 not like crazy chaos or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah, but I 255 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:33.080 like pac Man a lot. I'm glad they're doing more stuff with this, 256 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:38.240 and a vestage of stadia lives on here. Any chance to check out a 257 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:45.320 pac Man Battle Royale game, man, I don't know, so. I 258 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.240 at zero ninety nine is the first time I got into one of these, 259 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:49.639 Like, hey, we took an old game and we let an absurd number 260 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:53.360 of people play it simultaneously. Yeah, and it was way more engaging than 261 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.559 I thought. It would be a great game, and it does make me 262 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:02.120 wish I hadn't missed like Tetris Ni Mario thirty five. You know that I'd 263 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:07.160 had an opportunity to play you know, the PA pac Man Mega Tunnel Battle 264 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:12.160 not not Chomp Champs sixty four Turbo edition. I would, I would check 265 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.799 it out, right, I mean, I know a couple of sikos for 266 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:19.519 these type of games. We took an old pixel game and let one hundred 267 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.720 people play it at once. None of them care about the pac Man one, 268 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:29.880 but it feels sacrilegious not to try right this pac Man, you know. 269 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.720 I also like, uh, whenever they do something new with pac Man 270 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.279 and they put the new spin on it, usually they have a good look. 271 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.680 And I hope that this one is updated with a lot of a great 272 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:44.559 like just visual flare, because they're good at that with these pac Man games. 273 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.400 And the one for Stadium again was just okay for those factors. It 274 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:52.839 didn't like stack up the Championship Edition, which I think is a classic game 275 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.680 at this point. But at the same time, I'm also just like, 276 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.440 hey, you know, Bandai Namco always out there doing more stuff with pac 277 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.839 Man at all times. They're not letting that franchise wilt in any way, 278 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.920 and I appreciate that more than anything else. Yeah, at least they're keeping 279 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.319 him busy, you know, and like they're giving the man work, which 280 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:11.799 is look, I love you, Capcom, but like Mega Man, what's 281 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.720 up? Right? Yeah, I think I think when you're when you're that 282 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.079 much of a grandpa of the industry, like you should be able to get 283 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.680 regular work, even if it's to charity work, right right, Yeah, 284 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:23.240 and look in your own game, like, yeah, it's awesome that. 285 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.359 Like Mega Man was so busy and Smash Brothers and all that stuff, but 286 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:29.759 like let's get him his own game again. I mean, yeah, Mega 287 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.200 Man eleven came out. God, that was probably a long time. It's 288 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:34.839 way too many years ago. But it's not as recent as you think, 289 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.480 not as recent as I think. Yeah, but yeah, pac Man peg 290 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.839 Me is staying busy. Old man still gets out of the house, go 291 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:42.480 does the thing. I'm happy. Yeah, that's that's all it is. 292 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.319 Maybe it's not for me, but it makes me happy to know what's happening. 293 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:52.400 All right, let's see you're moving along. Fallout four US finally getting 294 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.319 new content and improvements on PS five, Xbox m PC. This is from 295 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.480 Georgiang at game Spot, but those days revealed a bunch of new information regarding 296 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:06.200 Fallout four and it's long awaited update for PlayStation five and Xbox Series X and 297 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.359 S. It was originally announced back in twenty twenty two, but it was 298 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.720 delayed to this year. The update is free and will be released on April 299 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.839 twenty fifth. The update will include native versions for both of the newest consoles, 300 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.680 as well as the choice of to pick between performance and quality modes. 301 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.759 Specifics for these weren't shared, but but as the did note, you can 302 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:29.920 experience up to sixty frames per second and increased resolutions up to Yeah. Right, 303 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.359 my understanding is that actually they can have a solid sixty frames per second 304 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:37.039 mode. It's still nine year old game. Hopefully they can hit sixty frames 305 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.319 per second. But right, I'm like, oh my god, up to 306 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:42.799 sixty frames per second, But now apparently it's fine. I better run at 307 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:47.279 that, though, you're correct. Those still playing on PS four and Xbox 308 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:51.799 One will receive a free update and with stability improvements and quest fixes. The 309 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:56.039 PC version will also add wide screen and ultra wide screen support, along with 310 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.079 fixes to the creation kit and update in quest updates. The game is already 311 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.240 on Steam, Microsoft Store, and gog, but will also now be available 312 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.880 to purchase on epic at Game Store. It will also become Steam Deck verified, 313 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:11.960 which I'm always happy to hear about. Yeah, this is cool. 314 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:12.640 I mean, we get why they do this, right though. I mean 315 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:17.279 the update was always planned. Sure, it took a long time, but 316 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:19.039 the timing of it isn't a coincidence that it's out now? When the show 317 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.319 is out, they know they've seen the numbers a bunch of times for these 318 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.759 shows that do pop off in a big way based on video games do lead 319 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.559 people back to the games, and that means Fallout four is like it's going 320 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.119 to be the one that is the most likely to benefit from that. So 321 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.559 having this update redigo is great. I bet they wish they had a newer 322 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.559 Fallout, not seventy six right now. They'd probably really benefit in that case. 323 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:42.839 But for it's not like some game that people are gonna go back to 324 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:47.119 be like, oh this is I can't play this. This is so old. 325 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:49.079 It's part of that that generation of games where it's like, yeah, 326 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:52.720 this could kind of come out today. Obviously we need some updates here and 327 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.640 there, but that's kind of what this exactly. And it's clear going they've 328 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:00.640 been confident about this Fallout show for a while, right, Like it makes 329 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.119 sense that they were like, Okay, let's start planning out if the show 330 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:04.599 is going to come out and it's going to potentially draw people back into the 331 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.200 franchise, you know, yeah them get a little get a little story content 332 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.440 update to a nine year old game. Let's throw you know, some some 333 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:17.720 Creation Club content in there and and give a little spit pole of shine. 334 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:19.960 You know. Granted, half my timeline seems to be going back to New 335 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:26.359 Vegas, not four, but I mean that's just that's the first off, 336 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.240 Like, you know, queer people love New Vegas. I don't know how 337 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:33.440 to explain that. And that's eighty percent of my community, so you know. 338 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.279 But yeah, I mean, of course, like I think most normal 339 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:38.680 people are going to look at four becau, They're going to see seventy six 340 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:44.640 is sort of a weird semi online service game and read some old headlines about 341 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:45.440 it and just go, oh, let me just go back to the last 342 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:49.519 numbered one. Yeah, I think, I mean, they'll look You're exactly 343 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:52.799 right. I think the seventy six will get some shine there for sure. 344 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:55.519 But people are like, no, I mean, I mean the game I 345 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.440 could play single player, I want the story. Yeah, that absolutely, 346 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.119 But I mean New Vegas is also going to pop off in a big way 347 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:04.160 because of this. I expect more people to be playing New Vegas in the 348 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:07.519 next couple of weeks than have played it in the last year or so. 349 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.240 Yeah, and that'll be Fantastic will sell three more copies of New Vegas. 350 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:17.440 Yes, everyone already owns that right in every Steam sale, I get people 351 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:22.720 bought that five times over. Now, boy, do they actually find a 352 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.920 way to get a new Fallout game out relatively quickly from now? Because I 353 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.119 don't see how they can. They are so far away from doing that Atpathesstic 354 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:32.880 Game Studios. That is just not the way that their workflow has been. 355 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.920 Man. I mean, look at how long Starfield took to come out, 356 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:38.920 and look at the reception to Starfield being as mixed as it was, right 357 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:45.920 even amongst Bethesda Sikos. Elder Scrolls is way off on the horizons, you 358 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:52.000 know, and Fallouts had multiple releases in the times since the last Elder Scrolls, 359 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:56.480 So just like, could they move things around and fast track it? 360 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:02.200 Sure? I don't see a new like Fallout five until after Elder Scrolls. 361 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.880 I think they are really They've got to be hands on deck trying to get 362 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:08.359 Elder Scrolls out the door, you know. Yeah. So, okay, 363 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:14.240 let's say you are in charge of Microsoft then and you're looking over at Bethesday 364 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.200 and you're looking at the soft works in the studio game studio and they're like, 365 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.160 yeah, that's right. We just did Starfield and we are still working 366 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.480 on updates that we want to get that into a better place, so that's 367 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:29.240 going to keep us busy. And then we've already promised Elder Scroll six after 368 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:32.200 that, so we have to work on that next. So in reality, 369 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:36.440 we are looking into the twenty thirties before we can make the next real Fallout 370 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:38.240 game. But you're like, well, hey, I would like a new 371 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.680 Fallout game, a new Real Fallout game before that. What is the solution? 372 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.119 Like, what do you think it's Do you think it's taken into becktob 373 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.279 City? And I think they're I mean, they're right there, but I'm 374 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.960 also very busy. Say they're very busy. I think, look, here's 375 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.640 the deal, right, And I've said this for a little bit, but 376 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:59.880 Microsoft, one of the smartest things Microsoft can leverage is the fact that they 377 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:06.039 don't probably don't particularly give that much of a shit about keeping specific franchises, 378 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:11.640 specifically with the individual development teams and old publishing houses that used to make them. 379 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:17.119 Right, there is nothing stopping Microsoft from getting some other external contractor to 380 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.799 get working on Fallout because Bethesda is too busy, right, It's the same 381 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.160 thing that theoretically is a huge benefit for Blizzard, right that, like, 382 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.200 you can get somebody to make you a StarCraft spinoff or a Diabolo spin off, 383 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:33.960 because Microsoft doesn't need it to be a Blizzard team. Now, Microsoft 384 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.160 has kind of been struggling for a while at getting games to actually come out 385 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:41.000 the door. So I mean, I don't know that if if Microsoft goes 386 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:47.519 okay today we are we are hiring and a contracting out an external studio to 387 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.599 get working on a Fallout game. We're not going to call it fall Out 388 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:56.799 five and we fall Out subtitle whatever, fucking Fallout Jacksonville. And you know 389 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:03.000 it's it's still oh man, that game is still six to eight years away. 390 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:04.839 The way the game development works these days, you know, yep, 391 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:08.079 even in the best of situations, Yep, yeah, exactly right. But 392 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.400 which is why I think they can't wait for you know, things to just 393 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.720 play out with. But that's the game studios, because even in the best 394 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.359 case scenario, we are looking at the twenty probably twenty thirty at the earliest 395 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.920 for a Fallout game, and that is one not made by pothesta game studios 396 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.559 are not directly made by them, So right, they probably do come up 397 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.079 with some solution here, someone to check. Yeah, the show got a 398 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.880 second season apparently, so yeah, already greenlit al right, greenle I did 399 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.359 I did not see that. So, I mean the Fallout is gonna be 400 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.039 in its bag right now that it's gonna be very popular, It's gonna be 401 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.720 very hot for this moment, and that will permanently raise the profile of Fallout 402 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.240 going forward. So yeah, they're gonna they're gonna want to shake something loose 403 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.920 there. Like I've said, I've said this before. I know, there 404 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.920 was just a conversation between between my name of the way, there was conversation 405 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.759 of the idea that Obsidian could make a follow up to fall Out New Vegas. 406 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:06.880 Like that conversation is something they have had but go into that, you 407 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:11.039 know, but I don't know really today, like it feels like the best 408 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.119 option that a lot of these giant publishers have is you know, look at 409 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.400 like stuff like the Rogue Princes of Persia just being announced, is it's like 410 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.279 more and more maybe you're if you really want to in any reasonable length of 411 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:27.200 time capitalize on the popularity of something, you've kind of got to aim double 412 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:33.359 a and let a small external studio, make a smaller title with your property, 413 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.880 something that's a spin off, something that's not like a traditional numbered entry. 414 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.799 And I have no idea what that looks like for Fallout, but like, 415 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.640 if you want a game out in the next couple of years that's not 416 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:47.759 already deep in development, that's almost your only option. And and then I 417 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.200 mean, but I wonder if they look at it and it's like, what 418 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:55.480 the audience we would be attracting toward the game from the television show are going 419 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.079 to be like, I know what the most modern games look like. This 420 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.319 should look like that. And if it doesn't quite match their the review of 421 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.119 like, hey, this doesn't look like those Last of Us games. Yeah, 422 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.680 that's a good point, which is a good point. Of course, 423 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.559 the patistic game is not going to look like that, but they but still, 424 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.440 I think people are gonna be like, hey, if it looks double, 425 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.440 if it looks less expensive, less premium, then it's this is not 426 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:15.559 the real game. That's that's not what I'm talking about. I want the 427 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.039 real game. Where's that at. Yeah, it doesn't matter how stylized it 428 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.400 is, it doesn't matter how good of the art direction is. If it 429 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.519 doesn't look like big, pretty realistic. Then a lot of the more like 430 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.920 casual audiences who you know, play some games and and come to a game 431 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.799 because they saw it in a TV show first are Yeah. I mean their 432 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:41.039 expectations are just completely different from a sicco like me. So uh, but 433 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:42.559 hey, I would like a smaller one. Someone said follow out tactics to 434 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.799 Crazy Bob, and Chatt said that that. Yeah, let's get one of 435 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:49.400 those speaking my language. Make every game a tactics game. Let's go. 436 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:53.880 We went tiles in everything, yes, and then then just let the characters 437 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.359 date and I think you've got a game right there. Yeah, yeah, 438 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:02.279 that's correct. That's every mechanic a game needs. Let's stick with the Todd 439 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.240 Howard keeps saying no to an Elder Scrolls TV show. This is from Jordan 440 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:10.839 Midler at VGC, speaking to IGN on the red carpet at the premiere of 441 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:15.599 Amazon's Fallout TV series in Los Angeles. Howard addressed the possibility of a show 442 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.640 based on but those the game studios, other big franchise. Everybody asks, 443 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.480 like about Elder Scrolls, and I keep saying no, Howard said, you 444 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.759 never know if someone's going to if someone's going to click. I think this 445 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.359 really came out of we think things are aligning to do a high quality job. 446 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.960 I wasn't forced, and I think he's talking about a fallout there. 447 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:34.839 Yeah. I can't predict the future, but this has been one of the 448 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.319 most enjoyable projects I've ever done, and we're just over the moon. Everybody 449 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.359 in the studio was seeing it this way. Amazon's Fallout live action series premiered 450 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.680 this week. Variety recently reported the filming for the second season will see production 451 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.759 move to California as part of attacks incentive. Where was the first one of 452 00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:55.359 the films to Vancouver? Probably I'm almost certa. Probably that's that tracks. 453 00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.279 Yeah, that's they know Shogan was filmed in Vancouver's Yeah, a lot of 454 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:03.759 those shows happened. People chatter saying yes, uh yeah. So I mean, 455 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.119 the show's clearly doing very well. It seems like I haven't watched it 456 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.440 yet, but I mean either, but the buzz is starting to get to 457 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.799 me. How about you, dare? I feel I need to watch it. 458 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.480 The main problem is is it's one of those shows like my wife really 459 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.920 badly wants to watch it, so we need to watch it together. I'm 460 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.079 not allowed to watch it without her, but we have like three other shows 461 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:27.359 that are on, like we're currently watching through So it's like something a spot 462 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:33.720 has to get freed up in order for Fallout to get in there. And 463 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.640 it's like, I think the reason that Fallout worked and Fallout attracted so many 464 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:44.519 people, aside from just being apparently a good show, right, is it 465 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.359 is something kind of unique that a lot of people who don't play games and 466 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.960 aren't familiar with Fallout haven't seen anything with Fallouts kind of aesthetic and vibe, 467 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:59.440 this weird mix of like apocalyptic and wild West and old timey, you know, 468 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.039 to its era, and like the ghouls, the German Shepherd, the 469 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.319 weird like you know, flight suits, the vaults. It's it's such a 470 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.960 unique aesthetic that people saw those trailers and were like, this looks weird. 471 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.960 This looks a little zany, this looks a little interesting, Like I gotta 472 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.240 know that plus good buzz. Of course, this show was gonna blow up. 473 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.039 I don't know if this is has anything to do with why Todd Howard 474 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.200 saying no because I can't be inside that man's head. I don't think those 475 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:32.319 same factors exist necessarily for Elder scrolls right now, Elder Scrolls on its face 476 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:37.440 looks like the most generic fantasy you could possibly put right to anything. It's 477 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.920 benefit in the video game space, where it's like people want to have the 478 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.599 thing they think of when they think of fantasy in a game and play around 479 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.200 with it in a playground, and the game offers that. I think at 480 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:48.720 a TV show you kind of have to well, I don't, I don't 481 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.440 know. I think could, I don't know. Yeah, I think it 482 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.640 absolutely could, but I don't think it has quite the immediate punchiness of something 483 00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.680 like Fallout that comes with that built in kind of satirical edging if you do 484 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.200 it right, that has that kind of unique aesthetic. Like Elder Scrolls isn't 485 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.720 funny, it's not well, it's not intentionally. Not intentionally, it is 486 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:14.400 accidentally one of the funniest games ever made. But like, also, I 487 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.440 don't think people go to Skyrim because they're in love with killing their ten thousandth 488 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:23.319 drouger, right, Like, it's because of the weird like sense of freedom 489 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:29.400 and the ways that that game works as a sandbox. And that's the stuff 490 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.720 that doesn't translate to a film or to a series. It's going to be 491 00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:37.000 story, lore, aesthetic, and Elder Scrolls just doesn't have as much going 492 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.160 for it in that front, at least not on a surface level. I'm 493 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:45.119 sure they are Elder Scrolls lore sickos who are here to tell me about how 494 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.599 interesting all this stuff is if you just read this book. But like, 495 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.240 as somebody who just played Skyrim and that's it, Like, I just don't 496 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.599 know how you could put a trailer out for an Elder Scrolls thing and not 497 00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.920 have everyone go it looks like another fantasy thing. Yeah, I mean, 498 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.960 and I think the lore can be fascinating, but the lore of anything could 499 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.559 be fascinating. But like, you know, Dungeons and Dragons, that new 500 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:08.359 movie. The way, the reason it worked, and whether or not it's 501 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.480 succeed or not, I'm not even paying attention to that, but it did 502 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.599 work for me. And the reason it worked is because it like captured the 503 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.839 energy of a bunch of people sitting around the table trying to entertain one another 504 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.160 and have a fun adventure and kind of having these very strong characters that are 505 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.839 always going to do their stupid thing and that vibe. They captured that, 506 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.960 and it's like, okay, yeah, that's them capturing the feeling of a 507 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.440 tabletop RPG, and that's how they made Dungeons and Dragons work in twenty twenty 508 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.319 three older scrolls. How do you how do you capture the things that bring 509 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.400 the people to Elder Scrolls. You're right, it's not easy because that sense 510 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.920 of openness is there, and it's expiration and stumbling across across things. And 511 00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.839 I don't know if that's great for a narrative scripted television show or a film, 512 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.759 but yeah, again, Hey, I'd be happy to be proven wrong. 513 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.559 I really like Elder Scrolls. I even have sometimes have fun reading those 514 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:58.240 little lore books and stuff like that. But I mean, I say this, 515 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.039 like the Witcher didn't blow up on Netflix, right, so like, 516 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:06.039 but but that's not something that was as much of a given, like it 517 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.599 had to come out and people be like, oh, this was actually really 518 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:13.000 good. Yeah, and it like and the way it blew up was just 519 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.640 like, Okay, people are hungry for fantasy because almost sneeze. I'll tell 520 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:21.519 you a lot of it was thirst over Henry Cavell. Right, yess exactly, 521 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.079 And that's that's you gotta get. You gotta get somebody who gets the 522 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.480 veins and the ladies and the gays really sweaty under the collar if you want 523 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:31.400 an Elder Scrolls thing to to work. And it's just again, it's a 524 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.880 different vibe, Like the Witcher is inherently a little bit like sweatier and leatherier 525 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.039 of a franchise than the Elder Scrolls is. So, and I think you 526 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.559 know, the Witcher is a character, is a very strong central idea of 527 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.720 this character that's that's hated and just does his job and has all these abilities. 528 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.039 You could build a story around that pretty easily. Yeah, that's a 529 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.119 good point. I mean, Dragon Born, but it's not the same, 530 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.519 and it actually isn't the same. It's not quite to the level of the 531 00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.559 Witcher. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a quick when we get 532 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.920 back, a lot more headlines. There's some new games, there's executives saying 533 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:14.000 dumb stuff. All your favorites right after this, all right, we are 534 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.920 back, and I believe we are yes here. Kingdom Come Deliverance developer Warhorse 535 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.119 Studios is to reveal a new game next week. Once again, this is 536 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:28.079 from Jordan Midler at VGC. Shoutouts to Jordan. Kingdom Kingdom Come Deliverance developer 537 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.360 Warhorse studios will review a new game next week, and a post on Twitter 538 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.400 the developer teas that it will show off a new game on April eighteenth. 539 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.079 The teaser image shows kind of like a man on a horse. This is 540 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:42.480 obviously the studio of Kingdom that did that, did Kingdom Come Deliverance, which 541 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:49.320 is kind of a more historically grounded kind of like aesthetically, it's a lot 542 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.960 more grounded, right right, Yeah, yes, in a lot of ways, 543 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.920 I'd say it's also kind of jankier, right, yes, which is 544 00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.440 kind of sometimes the vibe that you're going for. Yeah, that you're sure 545 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.559 euro jank the open world game that I euro jank is a great term. 546 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.239 Yes, my old editor would say that all the time. I'm like, 547 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:12.599 yeah, I'm like that's my jam. Give me more euro jank. And 548 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.039 you know that Kingdom Come Deliverance did very well, it seemed like, so 549 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:20.719 I wouldn't be surprised if this is just straight up Kingdom Come Deliverance to like 550 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:25.480 a big full sequel. It could be Warhors hasn't done anything like Kingcomb Deliverance 551 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:30.000 was like the late twenty tens, right, that's like, yeah, twenty 552 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.400 seventeen, twenty eighteen, and I don't I think that's been like the only 553 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.320 thing they've I don't out working on that game, right, they just stick 554 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.199 doing updates to it. So and you know there is in this image again 555 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:45.519 it's what looks like medieval night kind of person not wearing arm or anything, 556 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:50.920 but you know, wearing like fancy leather gloves and an overcoat, sitting on 557 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.000 a horse with kind of rains that do look like they're also from that time. 558 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.239 That this, you know, could always be a bait and switch, 559 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.000 but I think that the best bet for them probably is Kingdom Come Deliverance too, 560 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.360 especially if they can do something that feels like it's a much bigger and 561 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.360 building on those ideas and capable of feeling more modern. Even I was not 562 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:14.159 someone who loved Kingdom Come Deliverance. Like I played that game for a few 563 00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.119 hours and it felt kind of broie to me in a way that was like 564 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:22.519 ugh, yeah, like Entourage in the medieval times. Yeah, it's not 565 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.000 for me, And like, you know, there's a couple of people on 566 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.400 the team, right, but like, yeah, I gotta I gotta see. 567 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:34.400 Here's the thing, right, Here's ultimately all that matters is what what 568 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.800 is this game. Yep, right, I do think the team has some 569 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:43.719 talent. They clearly were able to strike maybe more silver than gold with Kingdom 570 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.079 Come Deliverance, Like it hit big, but it didn't hit like massive big. 571 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:52.239 But what are they making? What's the angle that they're going for, 572 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.440 What sort of like narrative content is going to be in it? What is 573 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:02.920 there? What's the itch? And it's hard when you've got a studio who 574 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.360 has one game to their name to try and draw from like a bunch of 575 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:14.199 past works like this could be anything. Yeah, and to that, to 576 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.559 that extent, it's almost a little exciting to see what a studio with without 577 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.400 that like long library of work, to see what they could be doing, 578 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.000 even it's not a studio I'm particularly attached to, like you do, always 579 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:29.519 want to see what these these more independent studios might be up to. Yeah, 580 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.719 And like for me, it's always like we talk to Doom and Gloom 581 00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.599 about the future of Triple A development and their ability to produce the kinds of 582 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.400 games we want. And my original excitement before, like the Kingdom Come Deliverance 583 00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:44.239 team kind of soured that with a lot of their behavior was that, hey, 584 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.119 this is a small team making one of those these big, open world 585 00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:51.880 games where it feels like you maybe mob this and turn it into whatever you 586 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.559 want. And that's really exciting that we're starting to get these now. We 587 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.280 haven't had a ton more of those since then, but I hope we're at 588 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:01.920 a point where it's like, you know, other studios can start looking at 589 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.800 this and be like, yeah, we could do that too, and fill 590 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.000 in those gaps because Triple A Development is going to continue being like we're afraid 591 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.039 to try anything new, so it's going to be down to smaller studios, 592 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.480 and I hope those smaller studios are feeling confident about that. And this seems 593 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:19.400 to suggest that at the very least, ex Blizzard chief thinks it should be 594 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.480 possible to tip game developers. This is from Jonas Mackie at Game Reactor. 595 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:28.000 Mike Ibara spent twenty years working at Microsoft, mostly on the Xbox team, 596 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.119 but in twenty nineteen he packed his bags and headed to Blizzard. There, 597 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:36.000 he eventually became the veteran developer's top executive before leaving shortly after Microsoft took over 598 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.800 the studio late last year. Recently, he has been very active on social 599 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:45.280 media, mainly Twitter, where he often writes unexpectedly frankly about problems and the 600 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.800 industry, as well as his own thoughts and opinions. Now he has been 601 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.800 added again and delivers a rather unexpected proposal. Ibarra thinks it should be possible 602 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:58.280 to tip developers who have offered something really special with a complete gaming experience where 603 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.199 it never felt like the studio was trying to hustle you for money all the 604 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.280 time. In these cases, a full price tag is simply not enough, 605 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.320 he says, and when and when the end credits roll, it should be 606 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.519 possible to chip in another ten or twenty dollars because it was worth more than 607 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.440 my initial seventy dollars and they didn't try to nickel and die me every second. 608 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.280 He Bara adds that he knows that many people don't like the concept of 609 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.480 tipping, but say it. Says that there would be no pressure to tip 610 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.239 because it's done anonymously in your home, and perhaps such a system would encourage 611 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:30.039 developers to actually deliver something more finished and complete without micro transactions, season passes 612 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.559 and the like, as doing so could suddenly could suddenly lead to higher revenues. 613 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.280 So here's here's the thing. Yikes in Barra strikes again. Right, 614 00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:49.960 it's on a totally surface level. If I'm not thinking deeply about this. 615 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.440 In theory, there's nothing that harmful about the idea of being like, yeah, 616 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.159 I really like this game and I want to show my appreciation to the 617 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:06.519 people who made the complication comes in. I think there's two angles that immediately 618 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:13.639 hit me. The first is that this is probably going to result in primarily 619 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.679 more money going to the same games that are already huge and soak up all 620 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.159 the money in the industry. Right, you've seen reports not to developers but 621 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.360 the people that own the studios. Yes, because that's that's part two. 622 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.599 Right, It's like, hey, guys, you do already know that when 623 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:30.159 you tip through the door Dash app that like eighty percent of that goes to 624 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.599 door Dash and not the driver. And it's gonna be the same problem here 625 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:38.519 when you tip through Steam or PlayStation or whatever, like more of that's going 626 00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:44.800 to go to the publisher and their shareholders than is gonna go to Like it's 627 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:52.119 not like you're putting ten dollars broken up between like how many people on a 628 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.679 team, right, you know? Yeah? And I mean and then on 629 00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.039 top of that, it's like they have so like he talks about these season 630 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.280 passes and all these other ways they have for forgetting money. It's like, 631 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.679 so, you you have been taking extra money from us for a very long 632 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.519 time. Where the hell did that money go? We are spending more money 633 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.159 on these games. Where did that money go? Did that not go to 634 00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:15.480 the developers to give them more money in the answer is, of course it 635 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.599 didn't, like some of it need to give raises slowly over time. But 636 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.159 if there was profits, if there was actually like substantial profits that did not 637 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.199 go to the developers, It goes to the studio heads, executives, bonuses, 638 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.639 dividends, buybacks for stock for shareholders, it goes towards that stuff. 639 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.280 And so why the hell is it our goddamn responsibility to pay these people for 640 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.800 making the game. We already paid for the game. That's the money they 641 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.840 gave you the money pay them. What are you talking about, bitch? 642 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.079 I'm broke, Yeah, like I am. I am a poor kid from 643 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.119 Kentucky. I do not have tipping California people money, you know what I 644 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.960 mean? Like, that's and that's exactly the point is that they are making 645 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.880 it feel Mikey baram once feel like it's our responsibility, like we like, 646 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:06.599 it's not their responsibility. When I can't pay rent or my mortgage or I 647 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:08.000 have any of these issue, it's like I don't have enough money for something. 648 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:12.480 And it's never like, hey, lower the prices of your games so 649 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.239 that I can afford to like still partake in this hobby. But no, 650 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.239 we got they got to go up in price because that's you know, it's 651 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:21.880 a premium product. It's got to go Like they don't ever care about that. 652 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.199 But when they need to pay developers for making the games, well, 653 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.199 come on, chip in a little bit, like, let's see if we 654 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.800 can help out. What are you and the people who should ship in or 655 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.639 us? Again, Like it's exactly like you said, the fact that these 656 00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.880 these increased prices on games and the season passes and these these battle passes and 657 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:44.440 all these sorts of ways to increase monetization. Uh, when a game does 658 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:49.719 super well, that money does not. It's not like the devs get royalties. 659 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.360 It's not like suddenly every program who worked on that game is swimming in 660 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.480 a pile of gold. Most of that's going to executives and most of that's 661 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:01.800 going to stock buybacks. Like you said, So there's money for the developers, 662 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.320 it just has to come out of the hands of the people at the 663 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:09.280 top who don't do shit to make these games, you know. And yeah, 664 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:14.400 like I'm not I'm not the person to squeeze blood from you know, 665 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.280 from that stone, which is not to say that like again, I wouldn't 666 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:22.079 like I feel I feel a little different when it comes to indies, right, 667 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:29.840 Like if a three person team makes a game and it just it changes 668 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:35.360 my life, right, which happened surprisingly often with indie titles. You know. 669 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.880 Good news is a lot of these folks have like patreons and kicks or 670 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.559 just a cofi page right where you could just be like here you go. 671 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.840 So like for the indies, you've already got that option. And that's where 672 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:50.360 you, as somebody who wants to throw five bucks at somebody, are gonna 673 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.480 make a difference. Given ten bucks are wolves and chat like, It's like 674 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:57.920 the bigger difference is buy that game is a gift for a friend, tell 675 00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.000 somebody about the game. Honestly, the word of mouth at like marketing almost 676 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.320 is worth more than just giving them an extra five dollars, absolutely is, 677 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.639 because that is where they thrive and survive with these games. So much of 678 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:15.159 our economy revolves around marketing, and you talking about something is free marketing that 679 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:21.480 has monetary value. Like, but yeah, it's just like me giving ten 680 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.400 bucks to like, Look, I'd like just brought up Dragons Dog Wa two? 681 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.440 Right if I gave ten bucks to Capcom for Dragons Dog Went two, 682 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.760 even if all ten of those dollars went to the team, and they wouldn't 683 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.119 how many hundreds of people worked on Dragons Dog Went two? Right, It's 684 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.480 nothing. It breaks down to the mouths thing. So the only the only 685 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.079 games that are gonna consistently get those kind of things will be your grand theft 686 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.880 autos, your Fortnites, your Destinies, the games that already make all the 687 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:52.360 money anyway, So it just doesn't do anything for like ninety five percent of 688 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.840 games out there. And if you really want to tip somebody's developers, you 689 00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.440 probably can't find their cofi on their Twitter indoor, so then tip them directly. 690 00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.000 God, if there was a tip jar at the end of a major 691 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.599 video game, I would lose my mind. I would just lose it. 692 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.679 What are we dealing here? I think I think I would get a cerebral 693 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.760 hemorrhage from how hard my eyes rolled. Uh huh involuntarily. Yeah all right, 694 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.679 Mike, but you just gotta, you know what, shut the fuck 695 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.719 up in Uh. Nintendo Switch Online is adding three new games. This su 696 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.199 from Nintendo Everything. Three new games just dropped on Nintendo Switch Online. Wrecking 697 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:35.800 Crew ninety eight, Amazing Heberchi, and Super R Type. And I like 698 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:42.119 Super R Type. This amazing looks like Mike Mitchell looked like Powerstone. I've 699 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.760 never heard of this. Yeah, it's like super Nintendo Graphics Powerstone. I'm 700 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.480 like, oh, that sounds fascinating, So maybe you have exactly this. 701 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.159 It's adorable. And then Wrecking Crew ninety eight is one of another one that 702 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.559 both both Amazing Hiberaki and Wrecking Crew ninety eight never came out here. They 703 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.239 were Japan only. Yeah, so I do like when they do that. 704 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:07.440 That's pretty neat our type season, Yes and yes exactly. I'll always make 705 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.079 time for our type in my life. Uh. I guess overall, how 706 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:15.199 you feel about Nintendo Switch Online. You know, I mean they need to 707 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.320 add another console to it already, right, Like I well, okay, 708 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.519 I say that I do like that Nintendo has is having to dig deeper into 709 00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:29.119 the libraries and pull some of these Japan only games. You know, I'm 710 00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.039 very happy for that versus like if GameCube games were on there right now, 711 00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.159 it just means we'd see the same big GameCube games I've played a dozen times 712 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:42.360 already. But like, this is fun, but like, you gotta add 713 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.320 you gotta add another console on there, sooner or later. And I got 714 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.719 an idea in my head, it's fine if it's not. If it's not 715 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.239 the GameCube, which I think is still like what Caslvania four on there? 716 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.239 Guys, what's going on? Let's and those companies are like, exactly, 717 00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:00.239 we'll just sell those. Yeah, if it's not game in Cube, what 718 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.840 do you think they could do? Because I'm like, i'd love to I 719 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.800 would love to see Sega Saturn on there, but I wonder if that's feasible. 720 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.159 Sega Saturn didn't have games, what are you talking about? Right? 721 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.639 Then they just put the five games on there and they're done. Yeah, 722 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:15.800 yeah, exactly, it goes in a new tier. It was just a 723 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.639 Sega Saturn and Virtual Boy Carmographics isn't on there, right, It's not. 724 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.639 It's funny that it's not, because that was part of the we virtual console 725 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:27.440 way back, it was like a huge like like Lego Huge Crush Virtual con 726 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.360 Put the PC engine on there, you know, I mean, I put 727 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.719 if you want to get real wild, put like Atarian ship on there like 728 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.400 that neat. You know, it can't cost you much to do that, 729 00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:44.239 and that like leadership is like pretty down to clown. So yeah, yeah, 730 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.239 absolutely they are, and they seem like a good crew. Yeah, 731 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:53.519 I just you know, I think really they need to look backwards and spread 732 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:59.360 out because obviously, like it's probably gonna be a while before we see GameCube 733 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.840 stuff ever get added to that subscription service. They're just gonna for the next 734 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.960 ten years still, I think they're gonna just sell us GameCube games as remasters 735 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.239 in reas. Yeah, yah, reasons enough and modern enough that it's something 736 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:14.119 where they can just delve into it for remasters, right, And they did 737 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.320 that for Super Nintendo and in sixty four for a very long time and only 738 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.519 recently got to the point where like, yeah, we just put these into 739 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:24.960 a bundled subscription and that's a very long time. All right, Let's get 740 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:30.440 these last couple of stories here. Content Warnings sells seven seven hundred thousand copies 741 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.800 after going paid. This is from Alex Hopley at game Reactor. Content Warning, 742 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.320 the co op horror game where you have to film entertaining videos while risking 743 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:42.159 your life for Internet fame, immediately attracted a lot of attention when it launched, 744 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.360 not only because it came out of nowhere, but also because it was 745 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.000 free for the first twenty four hours. This led to over six million or 746 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.159 six million people, not six hundred million, six million people hurrying to grab 747 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.840 the game before they had to pay for it, and even after the game 748 00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:59.360 slapped on a price tag, it has still managed to sell an impressive amount 749 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:04.760 of copies. Speaking with PC gamer, Landfall CEO Wilhelm Nyland spoke about how 750 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.679 he never expected such a response. It felt likely that Content Warning would be 751 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.159 bigger than any of our similar small projects, but we definitely didn't expect it 752 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.400 to happen so quickly. It was definitely a lot of excitement and a lot 753 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.400 of confusion about how it blew up as quickly as it did. So Yes, 754 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.239 game sold one hundred thousand copies in its first day, and the end 755 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.679 of its first week it had sold seven hundred thousand copies, which is huge 756 00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:30.039 for anyone in any game that's around this size. Yeah, without doubt, 757 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:31.760 it seems like an idea they put together pretty quickly and they just put it 758 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:36.280 out there. It's a solid game. I really really enjoy it could be 759 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.559 happier. It's a funny concept. It's obviously kind of picking up on the 760 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:45.199 same like DNA that like you know, fasmophobia and then like a lethal company 761 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:50.079 put down. And it shows that there's a lot of obviously there's this huge 762 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:57.960 segment of the market that loves the sort of like easy viral like eye concept, 763 00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:02.880 but simple multiplayer game that are more about being funny than being like mechanically 764 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.400 super tight, right, And I'm super happy for that. And also again 765 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.119 like back to the tip jar, like buy indie games, right, Like 766 00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.039 that's how you make a difference in this industry. It's great to see this 767 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.199 little game sell as many copies because it's a small team and that money goes 768 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.840 a lot further for a small team. So yeah, this this strategy of 769 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.760 going free for the first day and then having a price after that, it 770 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:31.719 just clearly worked, right, And I think for me, I look at 771 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:37.360 I was watching Nova the other day. It's that PBS sign show about the 772 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.519 Forbidden City and how they were like the emperor wanted one hundred thousand of the 773 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.559 logs from these trees that grew like on the other side of the country, 774 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.159 and so they had to like put them on these sleds on the ice, 775 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.440 and part of that it was like brick stone something like that. They had 776 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.480 to put some stuff on these sleds on ice, and the process of getting 777 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:59.480 it started was very difficult. It required a lot of energy. But once 778 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:02.360 it started going was it only took one person to continue pulling it down the 779 00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.679 ice. So it's like getting started, getting over that initial hump is the 780 00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.440 hardest thing, or like what Charlie Munger says about like saving money and like 781 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.320 becoming rich, It's like that first one hundred thousand is the real bitch. 782 00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.639 After that, it's like compounding interest just makes it work. This feels like 783 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:21.079 compounding interest, right, once you've got six million people getting the game for 784 00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.480 free, Sure you had to give it away, there's gonna be costing curd 785 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.960 there, but you are immediately over the hump there in terms of getting people 786 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.320 the compounding interest of people's interest, and now that is just flooding in with 787 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.480 people, like being the well, I can't miss out. My friends are 788 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.480 playing, so I'm gonna pay money. I mean, I'm just like really 789 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.440 impressed with that. This strategy hadn't been tried before really as far as I 790 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.000 can remember, not like this exact way, not with anything like this, 791 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.800 and it clearly worked. Also a little bit lightening the bottom. Not every 792 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.480 game can do this, right sure, sure, well, Unlike, of 793 00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.079 course, the question is going to be, like can content warning like keep 794 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.480 this momentum up? Is what I think a lot of people would would immediately 795 00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.119 ask, right because for example, like Fasmophobia blew up back in the day, 796 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.960 Lethal Company blew up, and like they had that real like you know, 797 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.800 lightning in a bottle kind of moment that this is kind of like feels 798 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.800 like the next version of that. But you don't see anywhere near the same 799 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.519 kind of talking about Lethal Company now as there was, you know, even 800 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.320 even six months ago. But also like when you sell seven hundred thousand copies 801 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.960 of the game, like you don't have to write to keep it like because 802 00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:28.800 also like everybody who bought this paid eight bucks for it, so the game's 803 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:31.639 only a big deal for six months, Like it was a great little experience 804 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.159 right, you know, millions of dollars. You're not expecting it to be 805 00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:42.480 and and and and an endless service game at eight dollars, you know. 806 00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.079 So yeah, good point. And it's like for a team, and for 807 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.880 the team not expecting or being accustomed to expecting small things because they're like, 808 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.280 hey, we had small games that did Okay, that's like tens of thousands 809 00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:55.840 of copies, right, if they didn't have it before like that, and 810 00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:00.760 that's where your expectation level was set. So then to have something that's selling 811 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:05.239 hundreds of thousands of copies, approaching a million in its first month of copies 812 00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.639 sold, yeah, they're gonna be like, Okay, this is more than 813 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:12.199 enough. We can work with this amount of money, clearly, And if 814 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.960 they want to keep it going, if they think that's something that can benefit 815 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.440 them now, they have the budget to do that clearly, all right. 816 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.719 Like I said last couple of stories, Stellar Blade fans asked to go easy 817 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.320 on its demo, which is almost twice as popular as Final Fantasy seven Rebirths 818 00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:30.639 Once Again Got Jordan Miller at VGC Shift Up has asked players to go easy 819 00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.320 on the Stellar Blade demo, which is proving to be a hit with players. 820 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.719 A demo for the PS five exclusive launched a last month ahead of the 821 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.760 game's release on April twenty six. We're so grateful for your love of our 822 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.199 game. To enjoy the main game properly, though, please go easy on 823 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:47.840 the demo, Stellar Blade said, as the Cellar Blade developer said, fifty 824 00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:53.880 plus hours of demo play were scared. According to market research firm and impure 825 00:53:53.960 --> 00:54:00.440 an analysis, the demo has been popular, attracting a peak of six daily 826 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:05.079 active users. That's in comparison to the demo for Final Fantasy seven Rebirth, 827 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:09.920 which drew a peak of three hundred and eighty thousand daily active users. Yeah, 828 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:14.639 so that is clearly people are ready for this game and they're exciting to 829 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:16.840 I thought that demo was really well put together, and it's a good demo. 830 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:21.280 It made me look, let's be clear, right, prior to his 831 00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:23.920 demo dropping and people actually playing it, I was getting really tired of every 832 00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:29.400 conversation about this game having nothing to do with the gameplay, absolutely, you 833 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:34.159 know, and like, yeah, it's it's a it's a pretty decent demo. 834 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.159 I'm sure the final game will be fun to play. I don't think 835 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.039 it's like anywhere near peak when it comes to your character action games. But 836 00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.840 like it's a good time. It's a good time. It's no SEC, 837 00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:45.840 it's no, it's it's no Devil May Cry five. I think it's yeah, 838 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:52.039 it's you know, it's not even near Automata Automata near Automata. And 839 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.559 but I really like that boss fight. I think everything else was kind of 840 00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.679 like a pretty mid for me, to be frank, it's it's it's definitely 841 00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:04.840 a lot a flash and style and like production value and over like gameplay substance. 842 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.400 But I mean, I'm gonna be real with you. I could say 843 00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.079 the same thing about games like The Last of Us, right, like you 844 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.400 know, and like that's I don't mean that as a down, like a 845 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:17.679 put down, right, Like that's where they focused their efforts and their money. 846 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.239 And clearly, if people are playing, if if the demo is that 847 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.719 popular, if people putting that kind of time into it, then it's hitting 848 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:30.280 with people and that's only good for the game. So I think that's great. 849 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:31.480 And again, I like, I think it's a it's a fun demo. 850 00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:36.360 I think people should try that demo, you know, And I also 851 00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.320 see why people are playing it a lot because I did do the boss fight 852 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:43.840 and then there's that boss like fight you could choose from the menu, and 853 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.639 I was like, oh, I would like to do this over and over 854 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.840 again and get it like to kind of flawless and looking at a flash as 855 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:52.559 possible, because that's that's where the games that it's at its strongest, where 856 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:57.559 it's like you are doing something pretty cool and it looks very cool. Uh 857 00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.599 and and yeah, and those things coming together and being able to like master 858 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:02.920 those systems enough that you can get to that point, that's what that's where 859 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:07.239 all the fun is in that game. Yeah, so I get all right, 860 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:08.760 and the last thing here, just real quick, someone pointed out, 861 00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:14.119 you get only hours left to own Jim Ryan. Uh. Jim Ryan is 862 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:19.480 available in the PlayStation Stars program as a bobblehead. You could own them, 863 00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.559 but it's gonna go away soon, apparently it's indean I think later today or 864 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:27.400 something like that. I have not done this yet. I don't know how 865 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.360 to open PlayStations. Star Stories is the like NFTs that aren't n f t 866 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:34.360 s, right, like I think, yeah, Like I remember when they 867 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:36.239 first announced it, we were all like, oh, these are this is 868 00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.880 NFT bullshit. Isn't it. Then it turned out like no, it basically 869 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.000 is, but without any of the you know attached to it. I was 870 00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:47.079 like, oh, so it's just digital trading cards. Cool, Like fine, 871 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:52.199 I guess like PlayStation Stars has the option to like buy games with your 872 00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:53.880 points. Now, someone point how like Bloodborne is in there and stuff like 873 00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:59.000 that might oh okay weird, but that that's fine. But I'm like, 874 00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.639 I need that Jim bobblehead please. I don't know where I display it, 875 00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:06.039 how anyone ever sees it. I should I should go get the digital version 876 00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:08.679 so that I can when I do three D print my own Jim Ryan bobblehead 877 00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:12.440 at the library that I'm like, well, I own the digital version. 878 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.079 This is just a physical backups. You can't shoot me. Yeah, all 879 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:17.880 right, I got a pull question. I'm gonna get set up over here 880 00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:21.280 while I'm getting that going though, Derek, why don't you tell people where 881 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:22.639 they can find you what you have going on? All that good stuff? 882 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:29.599 Yeah? You can find me unfortunately, still on Twitter at Derby City. 883 00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.079 Derek. I am on. I am the producer, editor, co host 884 00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:37.320 of superdole X Games Cast. So we are live on twitch dot tv slash 885 00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:42.119 Official SDGC every Thursday night at nine pm for our live news show where we 886 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.880 go over all of the week's latest, like kind of news topics that we 887 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.760 consider important. We do streams, we do reviews, we do stuff like 888 00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.679 that. You can also find the show on Twitter at official SDGC. But 889 00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:57.199 you know, following the show account is mostly just tweeting out like when we're 890 00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.280 going live, compared to following the cast members. But yeah, you know, 891 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:06.400 it's also it's primarily podcast first over streaming, so you can catch us 892 00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:09.400 live streaming. But in the end, everybody listens more than they watches. 893 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:15.039 So yep, I'm sorry. I guess some of the just put it in 894 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:20.719 in chat the link to a story about Mijoyo Versus being worth twenty three billion 895 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.800 dollars, which I think is more than Epic Games. I choose not to 896 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:25.360 think about it, Jeff, I choose not to think about it. You 897 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:29.000 know what, God, You're onto something there. I'm just you know, 898 00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:34.480 selling selling waifus is good currency, and I just don't. I don't. 899 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.280 I don't want to think about fortunately. All right, are you subscribed to 900 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:43.159 EA play? Was our pool question from yesterday. Uh twelve percent said, 901 00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:47.000 what is that? Thirteen percent said yes and seventy six percent said no, 902 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.599 And I wonder like how many in the yes category? Action includes people like 903 00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:53.840 well, technically, I'm subscribed to EA play because I have a game pass. 904 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:57.440 All yeah, that's that's how I would have answered. That is yes, 905 00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:00.079 technically, so technically right, but I'm not paying for a play separate 906 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:05.800 right. I know you're not a mad man. Of course, that's not 907 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:09.639 my flavor of mental illness. Yeah, I'm like I would I would never 908 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:12.960 subscribe to it. Well, I say it would never. I think I 909 00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.239 did very early on when they first announced it, But these days the idea 910 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:19.199 of like, oh I don't need more games, that's the last thing I 911 00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.880 need. You don't want to subscribe to Ubisoft Plus money, Listen, I 912 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:24.400 would subscribe to you gub your soft Plus for a month here and there to 913 00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:28.599 like play through Avatar when it launched, or win to play Star Wars Outlaws. 914 00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:30.159 That's like a good deal as long as you remember to cancel. But 915 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.960 yeah, yeah, otherwise not so much. All right? New poll question? 916 00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:38.480 Did you buying? Did you buy content? Warning? And your options 917 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.159 are? I got it for free, I bought it, and I didn't 918 00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.639 buy it, so if you, even though if you don't know what content 919 00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:45.880 warning is, you could just say I didn't buy it. And we'll talk 920 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:51.760 about the results of this poll on Monday here on Game Mess Mornings, which 921 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:53.559 I think I should be able to do, remembering my wife is going to 922 00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:55.559 be out of town, but I think the kids are off on Monday, 923 00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:59.400 which actually makes it easier for me to do a show. So yes, 924 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.360 Monday, we'll talk about the results on Giant Bomb. Speaking of Giant Bomb, 925 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:06.639 later today, we will have upf Mike's going to play through my moded 926 01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:09.760 to Hell version of Fallout four. Look out for that, and then we'll 927 01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:14.199 have BCR where we're going to talk about our most anticipated games left to be 928 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.159 left to come out this year. We kind of got through the bulk of 929 01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:21.199 what's been announced and there's like some you know, sprinklings out throughout the rest 930 01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.159 of the year of a few games here and there. But we're also going 931 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:25.760 to give our long shots for what we think could still come out. So 932 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.199 that'll be on BombCast Revengeance at three pm Eastern. Beyond that, though, 933 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:34.599 we'll have more plenty of more Giant Bomb next week. In the meantime, 934 01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.400 Derek, thank you so much for spending today talking with me about video games. 935 01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:38.559 I really appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for having me. This 936 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:42.000 is a blast. Yeah, this was awesome. If we have you back 937 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.440 on, make it happen in the future. Ye, anytime, anytime, 938 01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.840 And thank you all for watching. You're the best audience in gaming. Until 939 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:52.199 next time, have a good one, take care of yourself and goodbye.